Norway bombings

I hope our Moon friend and her family are safe.

Norway Bombs

As I wrote in Politics this demonstrates again the folly of leaving firearms, especially automatic firearms, in the hands of people.
Tullio

BBC News

The full horror of the attacks have now become apparent since late last night. It is a small closeknit country with just 5 million people, and this will have hit them hard. I send my condolences to the people of Norway.

Once again, this demonstrates the folly of leaving people to own firearms, especially automatic firearms, which killed 90 people, mostly teenagers.
Tullio

I may not be the right one to do this..
but on behalf of the Norwegian people, I
want to express my deepest condolences to
the families directly affected of this -
and thats many. I also want to thank the
international community for their expression
of feeling with us - and our nation in this matter.

As a private person, I can not express what I feel.
To be witness to a happening like this is worse
than the most horrible nightmare. Norway is a very
peaceful country. And I will think its one of the
countries in the world where people move most freely,
and Feel most safe. This is how we know Norway.
When something like this happens, its easy to lose
the trust in what we belive in.. that freedom and
openness is possible, and can and should be the road
and the goal.
But we can never control everyones minds.. and freedom
is also to allow others to have their own ideas and meanings.
Though.. how anyone can become so evil, and do this sort
of thing - no matter where they are from - is not to grasp.

Today Norway is in shock, in grief, and each one of us
knows it could have happend to any of us. Norway is a small
country.. and to have lost so many of our teenages.. thats
something so horrible, we cant even start to take in the
meaning of it.

To have stated so.. I, and my family are all ok. But there
were people gathered from all over the country - and no names
are yet released.

All Norwegian is deeply moved today - Its the worst thing
that has happend to our country since the war.
Yet - as also the official Norway has stated:
This shall not change our views about having an open and free community.

Thank you all.

Moon*
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Thank you for your post, Moonkitten.
I share your grief for you fellow countrymen and women.
Simple words such as mine cannot quite express......
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As it is kitten, so shall it be done.

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My condolences to the people of Norway as well. Shocking thing to have happen.

However, on reading the article linked here.....

Norway attacks

This quote begs a serious question!

"When asked how long it took the SWAT team to arrive at the island after the shooting began, Fredriksen said: 'It takes the time it takes to drive fast.' He said that was about 30 minutes"

Don't they have Police or Military choppers on hand for things like this? Surely it would have been quicker & maybe save some lives. The sound of an approaching chopper could possibly have made him stop or run for cover.
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In a peace loving Country like Norway, this response time doesn't surprise me. Nor would this be unreasonble for any county on alert status. You have to have some sort of plan or the rescuers could have been in trouble too.
I am sure, we will be getting more details as time progresses.
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Even in Los Angeles, 30 minutes would not surprise me for a SWAT team. They aren't all sitting in a ready room waiting for a call out. They are in police cars all over the city being regular police until needed. They have to drive to the ready room, put on their SWAT gear and then drive to the scene in the SWAT command post vehicle. Now if it took 30 minutes for the first police officer to get there, that would be a surprise. He likely called for the SWAT response and his rules may forbid him to to anything but take cover. Remember this crazy was dressed as a police officer. Who is who? You don't know all your coworkers on sight in a large force, especially the night shift if you work days.

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Thank you Gary.
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Thank you Gary.

I appreciate that there is a lot of high emotion around at the moment, but I think we have to wait until all the details are known, before we can make judgements.

Don't forget this was on an island not on the mainland, and there was belief of a second gunman as well at one point, one or both in police uniforms. If they had gone in unco-ordinated, they could have ended up killing their own genuine police.

Just think, with no death sentence or life prison terms...the guy will get out at 53 and may do it again....Just doesn't seem right to me or I bet to the families of those murdered...
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Just think, with no death sentence or life prison terms...the guy will get out at 53 and may do it again....Just doesn't seem right to me or I bet to the families of those murdered...

Nope, he will get out at 53. 21 years is the Maximum sentence no matter how many you kill.....
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Nope, he will get out at 53. 21 years is the Maximum sentence no matter how many you kill.....