exclusive_app

Message boards : Number crunching : exclusive_app
Message board moderation

To post messages, you must log in.

1 · 2 · Next

AuthorMessage
Profile Geek@Play
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 31 Jul 01
Posts: 2467
Credit: 86,146,931
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1125981 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 17:56:33 UTC
Last modified: 8 Jul 2011, 17:57:30 UTC

Using Boinc version 6.10.58 and have been trying to get boinc to stop so my grandaughter can play her games without messing with the completion times and DCF for Boinc.

<exclusive_app>Gameprogram.exe</exclusive_app>
<exclusive_gpu_app>Gameprogram.exe</exclusive_gpu_app>


In both cases or even with both in the cc_config file Boinc just keeps on going. Checking program manager confirms that the GameProgram.exe is running.

Is this a known problem with this version of Boinc?

edit Using Windows 7 (64)
Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....
ID: 1125981 · Report as offensive
Profile jason_gee
Volunteer developer
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 24 Nov 06
Posts: 7489
Credit: 91,093,184
RAC: 0
Australia
Message 1125984 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 18:09:06 UTC - in response to Message 1125981.  

Try changing activity to 'Run based on preferences' instead of 'Run always', and 'Use GPU based on preferences' instead of 'Use GPU always'.

That should do it.

Jason
"Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions.
ID: 1125984 · Report as offensive
Highlander
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 5 Oct 99
Posts: 167
Credit: 37,987,668
RAC: 16
Germany
Message 1125985 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 18:09:53 UTC
Last modified: 8 Jul 2011, 18:12:19 UTC

First time, this function has worked on my side, was with 6.12.x series of BOINC, should have worked before, but ???

(+ that what jason said)
- Performance is not a simple linear function of the number of CPUs you throw at the problem. -
ID: 1125985 · Report as offensive
Profile Geek@Play
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 31 Jul 01
Posts: 2467
Credit: 86,146,931
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1125987 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 18:11:55 UTC

Thanks for the info Jason. Should have known. Seems everything related to boinc needs multiple changes to get one function to work.
Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....
ID: 1125987 · Report as offensive
Profile jason_gee
Volunteer developer
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 24 Nov 06
Posts: 7489
Credit: 91,093,184
RAC: 0
Australia
Message 1125988 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 18:14:34 UTC - in response to Message 1125987.  

Thanks for the info Jason. Should have known. Seems everything related to boinc needs multiple changes to get one function to work.


Yeah I actually got stuck with the same thing on 6.10.58, and had the same solution pointed out to me. I use the feature all the time, so it does work, but being buried under interdependant options like that didn't make a lot of sense to me either.

Jason
"Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions.
ID: 1125988 · Report as offensive
Profile Geek@Play
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 31 Jul 01
Posts: 2467
Credit: 86,146,931
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1125995 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 18:32:54 UTC
Last modified: 8 Jul 2011, 18:33:36 UTC

Made the changes you suggested but Boinc continues to use the gpu and cpu.

edit perhaps the game has to start after boinc???
Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....
ID: 1125995 · Report as offensive
Profile jason_gee
Volunteer developer
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 24 Nov 06
Posts: 7489
Credit: 91,093,184
RAC: 0
Australia
Message 1125996 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 18:36:04 UTC - in response to Message 1125995.  
Last modified: 8 Jul 2011, 18:40:51 UTC

probably. Boinc runs continually on mine. Did you restart boinc after making the cc_config changes ?

for reference, my cc_config.xml file looks like this:
<cc_config>
   <log_flags>
   </log_flags>
   <options>
      <save_stats_days>360</save_stats_days>
      <exclusive_app>OFDR.exe</exclusive_app>
      <exclusive_app>RT3.exe</exclusive_app>
      <exclusive_app>Homeworld2.exe</exclusive_app>
      <exclusive_app>Shogun2.exe</exclusive_app>
      <exclusive_app>RedRiver.exe</exclusive_app>
   </options>
</cc_config>


and at startup boinc says:
9/07/2011 4:08:45 AM Starting BOINC client version 6.10.58 for windows_x86_64
9/07/2011 4:08:45 AM Config: don't compute while OFDR.exe is running
9/07/2011 4:08:45 AM Config: don't compute while RT3.exe is running
9/07/2011 4:08:45 AM Config: don't compute while Homeworld2.exe is running
9/07/2011 4:08:45 AM Config: don't compute while Shogun2.exe is running
9/07/2011 4:08:45 AM Config: don't compute while RedRiver.exe is running

"Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions.
ID: 1125996 · Report as offensive
Profile Link
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 18 Sep 03
Posts: 834
Credit: 1,807,369
RAC: 0
Germany
Message 1125999 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 18:39:33 UTC - in response to Message 1125995.  

Is boinctray.exe running? I had "optimized away" that once and when I wanted to use the exclusive_app thing, I wondered why it's not working.
ID: 1125999 · Report as offensive
Profile Geek@Play
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 31 Jul 01
Posts: 2467
Credit: 86,146,931
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1126002 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 18:47:22 UTC
Last modified: 8 Jul 2011, 18:48:23 UTC

Boinctray is running, I have never messed with it.

I see the message when Boinc starts about not using gpu or cpu's. Starting Boinc first or the game first makes no difference. Still not working.

I just stopped boinc alltogether and told her to restart the computer when she is finished with the game.

Gameprogram.exe *32 is listed in the program manager. Do I need the *32???
Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....
ID: 1126002 · Report as offensive
Profile jason_gee
Volunteer developer
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 24 Nov 06
Posts: 7489
Credit: 91,093,184
RAC: 0
Australia
Message 1126003 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 18:49:02 UTC - in response to Message 1126002.  

Gameprogram.exe *32 is listed in the program manager. Do I need the *32???


No.

"Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions.
ID: 1126003 · Report as offensive
Profile Geek@Play
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 31 Jul 01
Posts: 2467
Credit: 86,146,931
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1126007 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 18:53:38 UTC

Thanks to all of you. I'll mess around with it when she tires of the game which could take days.
Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....
ID: 1126007 · Report as offensive
kittyman Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 9 Jul 00
Posts: 51469
Credit: 1,018,363,574
RAC: 1,004
United States
Message 1126008 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 18:56:56 UTC

'Nuther simple but obvious question...
Is the name of the program (Gameprogram.exe) exactly as shown in program manager?
With or without the capital G?
"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

ID: 1126008 · Report as offensive
Profile Geek@Play
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 31 Jul 01
Posts: 2467
Credit: 86,146,931
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1126024 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 19:24:23 UTC
Last modified: 8 Jul 2011, 19:25:45 UTC

Thanks Jason...........when I get access again I will check everything again carefully and see how it goes. According to cc_config instruction page character case does not matter but I will set it exactly as shown in program manager.

edit game is "The Sims 3" and the actual program has a different name. Cannot remember as my brain is old.
Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....
ID: 1126024 · Report as offensive
Profile jason_gee
Volunteer developer
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 24 Nov 06
Posts: 7489
Credit: 91,093,184
RAC: 0
Australia
Message 1126025 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 19:30:39 UTC - in response to Message 1126024.  

... edit game is "The Sims 3" and the actual program has a different name. Cannot remember as my brain is old.


LoL. If problems persist I'd recommend applying a blowtorch to the disk. I have a new game for kids called 'real life', where they can do the washing up & take out the garbage feeling just like they are actually there!



"Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions.
ID: 1126025 · Report as offensive
Profile Cliff Harding
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 18 Aug 99
Posts: 1432
Credit: 110,967,840
RAC: 67
United States
Message 1126037 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 19:56:27 UTC - in response to Message 1125981.  

Using Boinc version 6.10.58 and have been trying to get boinc to stop so my grandaughter can play her games without messing with the completion times and DCF for Boinc.

<exclusive_app>Gameprogram.exe</exclusive_app>
<exclusive_gpu_app>Gameprogram.exe</exclusive_gpu_app>


In both cases or even with both in the cc_config file Boinc just keeps on going. Checking program manager confirms that the GameProgram.exe is running.

Is this a known problem with this version of Boinc?

edit Using Windows 7 (64)


Here is what I do when I am viewing DVDs or heavy internet browsing. Under TOOLS/COMPUTING PRERENCES, uncheck USE GPU WHEN COMPUTER IS IN USE. Also reduce the % of processors in use, I bring mine down to 70%. This will allow the CPU WUs to keep running in background, but will suspend the GPU WUs until the machine becomes idle. If at any time the machine becomes idle for approx 3 minutes, the GPUs will kick in again; but will suspend again when it senses it active again. You may notice a slight flutter from time to time as the BM checks to see if the machine is still active. When I am finished, I just go back to TOOLS and reset back to whatever it was before. Never had any problem with these settings.
ID: 1126037 · Report as offensive
Profile HAL9000
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 11 Sep 99
Posts: 6534
Credit: 196,805,888
RAC: 57
United States
Message 1126038 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 19:59:43 UTC
Last modified: 8 Jul 2011, 20:01:14 UTC

I just did some playing around with this and figured I would share the results to see if it could help you.

1) I used the following entries at to see if it was going to be case sensitive.
<exclusive_app>notepad.exe</exclusive_app>
<exclusive_app>Notepad.exe</exclusive_app>
<exclusive_app>NoTePaD.eXe</exclusive_app>
Result: BOINC suspended computation as expected & resumed once the application was closed.
2) I launched BOINC before the exclusive was running.
Result: BOINC suspended computation as expected & resumed once the application was closed.
3) I launched BOINC after the exclusive was running.
Result: BOINC suspended computation as expected & resumed once the application was closed.

I then repeated these steps with <exclusive_gpu_app> to just spend the GPU.

Notes:
1) BOINC seems to only poll for exclusive applications ever 30 seconds.
2) I used <exclusive_app> and <exclusive_gpu_app> separately. As <exclusive_app> suspends everything and <exclusive_gpu_app> just suspends the GPU. So both would not be needed for the same application.
3) Have you verified that your are using the right exe name. Often for games they use a launcher. So when you click the shortcut to TheSims.exe it actually starts up someotherexeyoudidntknowabout.exe.
SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours
Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[
ID: 1126038 · Report as offensive
Profile Geek@Play
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 31 Jul 01
Posts: 2467
Credit: 86,146,931
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1126040 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 20:05:23 UTC

Hmmm..........that 30 second delay may have got me. I expected immediate action. Will try again when teenager allows me access to my own computer.
Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....
ID: 1126040 · Report as offensive
Profile HAL9000
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 11 Sep 99
Posts: 6534
Credit: 196,805,888
RAC: 57
United States
Message 1126042 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 20:11:21 UTC - in response to Message 1126040.  

Hmmm..........that 30 second delay may have got me. I expected immediate action. Will try again when teenager allows me access to my own computer.

I expected it to switch immediately as well. For a moment I thought maybe boinctray would be required, as I don't use it, but a few seconds later and off it went.
SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours
Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[
ID: 1126042 · Report as offensive
Profile Geek@Play
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 31 Jul 01
Posts: 2467
Credit: 86,146,931
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1126054 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 20:55:18 UTC
Last modified: 8 Jul 2011, 20:59:10 UTC

I tried to make the changes on my main cruncher as recommended by Hal9000. Added <exclusive_gpu_app>notepad.exe</exclusive_gpu_app> to cc_config file. Had Boinc read the config file and it noted the exclusion of notepad.exe in the messages. Started Notepad and waited. gpu apps stopped running.

Shutdown notepad and 10 minutes later still waiting for gpu apps to start again. They still show "Waiting to run". As soon as I changed Boinc to "run always" and "use gpu always" the work started again.

So looks like some problem perhaps.

edit.......perhaps someone with Windows 7 (64) could verify??
Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....
ID: 1126054 · Report as offensive
OzzFan Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 9 Apr 02
Posts: 15691
Credit: 84,761,841
RAC: 28
United States
Message 1126056 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 21:04:21 UTC - in response to Message 1126054.  

edit.......perhaps someone with Windows 7 (64) could verify??


I've had no problems here. I added World of Warcraft (WoW.exe) as a GPU-excluded app and it's working properly (Windows 7 x64).

I also have PowerDVD (PowerDVD.exe) excluded on my HTPC (Vista x64) from both the CPU and GPU without issue.

Both are running BOINC v6.12.26. The HTPC was running 6.10.56 before with the same exclusive configuration.
ID: 1126056 · Report as offensive
1 · 2 · Next

Message boards : Number crunching : exclusive_app


 
©2024 University of California
 
SETI@home and Astropulse are funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and donations from SETI@home volunteers. AstroPulse is funded in part by the NSF through grant AST-0307956.