From the minute I upgraded to the new 6.12.33 BOINC version my Lunatics ATI Apps (both SETI and Beta) started to last only about 20 seconds and get marked as invalid (at least the ones that aren't pending anymore).

Of course it could be my GPU, but it would be a weird conincidence to produce failures right after the upgrade, didn't have a single invalid before. (Temperature of the GPU is even less than what it is used to.)

The strangest thing is the stderr output of these tasks (eg http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1983386504) is only one line:
<core_client_version>6.12.33</core_client_version>

Anyone else experiencing this? Any clues/suggetions?
Also, is there anything to watch out for when downgrading BOINC?

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I dont think its Boinc but downgrade just to make sure.
Just install old version over the top.
I´ve seen out of memory message in one unit.

I guess its the card.

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Thanks Mike, I'll try the downgradge.

@Out of memory: I'm pretty sure that's another issue which I'll post in a few minutes. ;)

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You were right, it wasn't BOINC. Still getting these 20 seconds tasks.
Are these 'normal' super-shorties?
But that would still not explain the stderr (now with the older version number of course):
<core_client_version>6.12.26</core_client_version>

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have you tried a reboot, yet?

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Yes, rebooted before starting this thread.

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Which settings are you running.
Did you change something in appinfo.xml ?

Do you have something in autostart ?

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Settings: -period_iterations_num 14 -instances_per_device 1 (or did you mean other settings?)
I didn't change the appinfo.xml for a week.

Autostart: Do you mean what is running? Nothing new before this started...IE9, WMP12, WLM2011, Trillian, Skype, MSE and CCC.

Just 'found' a task which would get over the 20 seconds and finished in an hour including a stderr:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1987166007
(perhaps there is still nothing out of the ordinary)
...so not every task is affected, however one that looks just like it has the same issue again:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1987166005

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Something is consuming your resources maybe.

Did you have a virus scan lately ?
Maybe Malware or spyware.

Make sure Boinc data directory is excluded from virus scanner.

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As I expected, Virus scan was negativ.

> Something is consuming your resources maybe.
GPU resources? Other than Windows Aero and IE9? Well not that the CCC or GPU-Z would show, cause when BOINC is suspended the GPU shows 0% workload @157/300 (minimum MHz). Anyway what bad would that do? There were days when I played Star Trek Online while everything including GPU was crunching without error/problem.

> Make sure Boinc data directory is excluded from virus scanner.
Makes no different regarding this issue.


In any case I won't be able to track this the next week, cause I'm gonna be in Graz cheering for Austria @ the Amercian Football World Championship. ;)

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Looking through your tasks, it looks as if MB r177 worked when you had Cat 11.5 (CAL 1.4.1385) drivers installed and hasn't worked since you had Cat 11.6 (CAL 1.4.1417) installed,
So try uninstalling Cat 11.6, and installing Cat 11.5 again,

Claggy

OP I'd also suggest upgrading to the Lunatics 39 build, completely killed any invalids I was having.

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OP I'd also suggest upgrading to the Lunatics 39 build, completely killed any invalids I was having.

It's a good app indeed, but won't help his ATi card.

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OP I'd also suggest upgrading to the Lunatics 39 build, completely killed any invalids I was having.

Is this installed automatically by Lunatics unified installer 0.38?

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No, the installer gives you the x38g build. This thread will lead you to the x39e build... http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64739&nowrap=true#1125635 You have to make some changes to the app_info file.

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Thanks for the suggetions while I was away.

Looking through your tasks, it looks as if MB r177 worked when you had Cat 11.5 (CAL 1.4.1385) drivers installed and hasn't worked since you had Cat 11.6 (CAL 1.4.1417) installed,
So try uninstalling Cat 11.6, and installing Cat 11.5 again,

Claggy

I thought about the driver version myself and was sure I installed them at least a week before the problems. Anyhow I reverted back to Cat 11.5 to test this, of course. No change.

A couple of tests I ran myself with the last 6 workunits suggest the weird conincidence I mentioned: a hardware issue. <_<
It seems when the workunit will fail it will be at the beginning, after that it seems to be running fine. With these 6 workunits the failure rate is about 50% (assuming the ones running through would valided). The failing seems to be independent from the workunit, the load on the CPU and the GPU temperature, because there where failure and success in each case.
'Failing' will also send something back of course, however, the XML lacks a few starting tags which would explain the empty stderr.

Furthermore game play won't show any kinds of (graphical) error, the same with GPU stability tests which resulted only in higher temperature than while cruching but still not showing anything wrong. I found a memtest for CUDA...does anyone know one for ATI/OpenCL?

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The Astropulse Wu ran O.K, i wonder if it's your settings for the r177_HD5 app, can you post that section of the app_info please,

Claggy

    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>610</version_num>
        <platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
        <avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.05</max_ncpus>
        <plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
        <cmdline>-period_iterations_num 14 -instances_per_device 1</cmdline>
        <coproc>
            <type>ATI</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_HD5_r177.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>                           
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r177.cl</file_name>
            <open_name>MultiBeam_Kernels.cl</open_name>
            <copy_file/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>610</version_num>
        <platform>windows_x86_64</platform>
        <avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.05</max_ncpus>
        <plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
        <cmdline>-period_iterations_num 14 -instances_per_device 1</cmdline>
        <coproc>
            <type>ATI</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_HD5_r177.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>                           
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r177.cl</file_name>
            <open_name>MultiBeam_Kernels.cl</open_name>
            <copy_file/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>

They only thing I changed from the original the Lunatics Installer created was the -period_iterations_num.

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They only thing I changed from the original the Lunatics Installer created was the -period_iterations_num.

The app_info section looked fine, when i first ran r177_HD5 my HD5770 only needed -period_iterations_num 2

I can't remember what driver/SDK that was on, probably Cat 10.10/SDK2.2,

I'd just try -period_iterations_num 2 first, if no improvement downgrade your Driver to Cat 11.2/SDK2.3,
there has been some changes in SDK2.4 that increased the amount of Memory available to OpenCL apps, there might be side effects,

The other things that are strange is your HD5770 is only reporting 9 Compute Units at 700MHz, my HD5770 has 10 Compute Units at 850MHz

Claggy

Neither -period_iterations_num 2 (or other values) nor downgrading to Cat 11.2/SDK2.3 seem to make any difference.

I've got the HD5750 which has only 9 Compute Units @ 700 MHz.

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