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Message 1122813 - Posted: 29 Jun 2011, 19:21:11 UTC
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ET is already here but SETI can't see them because:

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ET have a technology far ahead of those stoneage radios, that makes it possible to read and manipulate your brain.
(ETs don't use radios, but instead quantum physics.)

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Some of those aliens use this technology to launch a heavy war against your brain, because they don't want to be found.
Which in fact makes it impossible for me to break through those mental barricades that ET have put in your head.
You must fight those arrogant thoughts and negative feelings of laziness etc that ET puts up to stop you from reading further.


The facts and theory is at http://www.mindfellow.net
But I suggest you start at the links page filled with peoples own experience of ETs manipulation of their brains.
http://www.mindfellow.net/x1000202.htm

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Read about millions of people that already have had their own experience of ET.
Which manifest itself as having their brain remote controlled, and thoughts, visions, voices and feelings pops up in their heads.
That includes 9 of 10 Nobel Prize Winners. Which prooves that this is not about idiots.

ET can't be detected by radios but instead through the technology they use to manipulate your brain :
Intuition
Hearing voices
Seeing visions
Manipulated thoughts and feelings
Manipulated movements
Irrational behaviour
And also through remote controlled people talking fouls slander about this subject.

Watch your mouth and think before you talk, you remote controlled fools. And take the command of your own head.


I suggest that you take a look at http://www.mindfellow.net
And then decide if it's time for SETI to leave those toy radios behind and take the next step and begin the serious work of uncovering and proove ET.


I have put the proof and tracks of ET in front of SETIs noses.
Let's see if you are serious intelligent people or remote controlled fools that throws what you are looking for in the garbage bin.

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Message 1122819 - Posted: 29 Jun 2011, 19:29:21 UTC

Okaaayyyy right ....

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Message 1122827 - Posted: 29 Jun 2011, 19:36:12 UTC - in response to Message 1122819.
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About 3 to 5 percent of the population can hear voices speak in their heads

we call those people schizophrenic
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Message 1122835 - Posted: 29 Jun 2011, 20:01:41 UTC

I'm going to keep letting ET control me. They do funny things to me while I sleep and it's the only action I can get without my girlfriend thinking I'm cheating on her!
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Message 1122838 - Posted: 29 Jun 2011, 20:03:33 UTC

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Message 1122956 - Posted: 30 Jun 2011, 8:15:53 UTC - in response to Message 1122838.

Welcome to the site Curt!!

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Message 1123176 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 0:46:11 UTC

Ahhhhhh... Curt's website seems to have gone missing? Guess Curt stopped paying the bill for his website hosting.

But either way, i happen to agree with Curt!!! Anyone familiar with the cutting edge of physics will be aware of Quantum entanglement; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement

Now today we humans think we are a clever intelligent civilisation. But if there are intelligent people living on other planets doing science the way we do science, then they will have fully mastered Quantum entanglement. Quantum entanglement is often described as "Spooky action at a distance". Its the cutting edge of science and mankind is only beginning to understand it.

But if scientists on other planets have mastered Quantum entanglement, it might be possible to do all the things suggested by Curt in the first message. Manipulating peoples thoughts might just be possible!!

So to all the skeptics....... Put that in your pipe and smoke it!!! ....LOL

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Message 1123185 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 1:19:50 UTC - in response to Message 1123176.

So to all the skeptics....... Put that in your pipe and smoke it!!! ....LOL


Of course you'd believe everything he's said, you are two peas in a pod.

Except that there's no observable proof that any of it happening other than some people's paranoia and self-denial about their schizophrenia.

So you can keep whatever it is that you're smoking in your pipe. I prefer reality over fantasy.


By the way, the logic is self-defeating. If our thoughts are really being controlled, how would we even begin to know it? Further, how would we prove or disprove that they wanted us to know considering some of us know?

Of course aliens are not controlling our thoughts with quantum entanglement. I'm sure advanced races have better things to do than to beam thoughts into our heads. Or is that what they want me to think? LOL

Smoke another blunt, you might get somewhere with that logic.

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Message 1123186 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 1:25:31 UTC - in response to Message 1123176.

Ahhhhhh... Curt's website seems to have gone missing? Guess Curt stopped paying the bill for his website hosting.


Oh, and his website is still there. Might want to lay off the Mary Jane, it can cause blindness... oh wait, that's a different pass-time activity! :-D

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Message 1123189 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 1:37:05 UTC
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Yea, Curt must be reading this message. The website has re-appeared again!

But i agree with you, your right! We do need proof. But it does not mean we can't speculate on what might be possible if we master Quantum entanglement. Quantum entanglement is 100% science fact!! Its real and its provable. So its not complete fantasy to speculate about what's possible a few years down the road, even if we haven't built any advanced Quantum entanglement machines yet.

I might add, we have built quantum computers. The very first quantum computing chips were released onto the market in the last few months. We are almost there! Thousands of scientists are currently working on so called "Machine intelligence".

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Message 1123193 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 1:45:44 UTC - in response to Message 1123189.

Yea, Curt must be reading this message. The website has re-appeared again!


Interesting that you jump right to "he must be reading so it's back up" when it's more probable that you simple were having trouble getting to his site.


There are no aliens controlling our thoughts. Read his website and you'll see his mental illness clearly. I worked for a nursing home filled with troubled people like him. There's nothing wrong with admitting it and getting help.

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Message 1123198 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 2:15:51 UTC
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Ozzfan,
Are you familiar with Quantum entanglement? Do you understand it?

I don't think Curt is a lunatic. I am very skeptical when i read websites like Curt's website. But i still read what he has to say. Yes, Curt is very blatant about expressing his personal view's about religion, science and politics on his website. But to me it sounds like Curt is just a scientifically minded person who is still investigating a very interesting area of science. It sounds like Curt has not yet finished his investigation so he does not have some magic technical drawing for how to build a mind-control machine, YET!!!

Even thought Curt does come across as opinionated on his website, i don't see any signs of mental illness. He's just investigating something unusual, that's all. I have a basic understanding of quantum mechanics and Quantum entanglement, but i'm not an expert. This allows me to read his information with a skeptical open mind. I'm able to interpret what he says is real, and what's bullsh*t.

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Message 1123202 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 2:23:19 UTC - in response to Message 1123198.

What you are referring to as "science" isn't science at all. You mention some science theory, and match it to your assumptions without any observable evidence. This is called bad science.

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Message 1123211 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 2:42:20 UTC - in response to Message 1123202.
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What you are referring to as "science" isn't science at all. You mention some science theory, and match it to your assumptions without any observable evidence. This is called bad science.

I asked you a question;
Are you familiar with Quantum entanglement? Do you understand it?

Ozzfan its ok if your not familiar with it. Not everybody will understand quantum physics, and that's ok too. Most scientists struggle with Quantum entanglement but still accept its real and that it needs more research before we can explain it properly.

Quantum entanglement is not theoretical science, its well proven! on the other hand Curt's website is very debatable science!!

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Message 1123213 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 2:48:34 UTC - in response to Message 1123211.
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I asked you a question;
Are you familiar with Quantum entanglement? Do you understand it?


Yes, and you can keep asking it as if it's relevant. What Curt is talking about isn't quantum entanglement.

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Message 1123237 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 3:26:22 UTC - in response to Message 1123213.
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I asked you a question;
Are you familiar with Quantum entanglement? Do you understand it?


Yes, and you can keep asking it as if it's relevant. What Curt is talking about isn't quantum entanglement.

Yea, i agree with you. The stuff Curt is suggesting is very speculative to say the least. Curt borders well into the land of science fiction. For this reason, yes, any sane scientist would have to write off the material on his website.

But!!! To science researchers who do investigate the weird and wonderful, Curt's website is unusual. Its unusual because what he suggests might actually be possible in the next few years. That's why i don't completely write off everything he wrote on that website. I suppose in a way i'm like a psychologist who wants to study the mentally ill for scientific reasons. I want to understand these people, i want to understand what people like Curt are thinking. Curt is not a lunatic, he is quite sane. He just gets a bit carried away at times trying to understand his own human mind. I can write off large amounts of his writings, but i can also extract valuable psychological information about the man's claims.

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Message 1123343 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 12:02:25 UTC - in response to Message 1123237.

I tried doing that for 8 years at the nursing home for the mentally ill I used to work at.

In the end, you simply find a bunch of bad wiring in the person's head. You start giving credence to the insanity and you start losing it yourself.

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Message 1123372 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 14:20:41 UTC - in response to Message 1123343.
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I tried doing that for 8 years at the nursing home for the mentally ill I used to work at.

In the end, you simply find a bunch of bad wiring in the person's head. You start giving credence to the insanity and you start losing it yourself.

Yea, maybe!

Through the study of the many many disorders of the human mind, scientists have learned that they can't all be categorised into one bunch as simple "lunatics". We have isolated many disorders by studying people and we have learned that we can "treat" some of the disorders. In many cases, people can be "cured", for lack of a better word.

When i was a kid, dyslexia was a mental problem with kids. These "mentally ill" kids could not learn stuff like other children. And the best way to deal with a kid who could not learn to read was to treat them as retards, punish them and send them home to their mothers. Today we can treat dyslexic children because scientists learned to understand the problem.

The more we study people who say strange things, the more we understand about ourselves and the human mind. Curt is very sane, i'm just trying to understand the message he is telling people. He has something he wants to tell people. Some will write off his message as rubbish. But people like me try to understand what he is saying.

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Message 1123376 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 14:26:15 UTC
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If we are going to mention insanity or someone being a lunatic...for centuries humans believed our planet was flat, and to this day there are still people who believe it is. That was science at the time that everyone excepted as fact. There were days when Newton and other various scientists were considered lunatics and had to do their work in secret. I am not agreeing or disagreeing with this particular topic: I am merely stating that the "facts" of science, and theories involved with it, change all the time. We know very little about our own home let alone the entire solar system and beyond. We are barely scrapping the surface.

That said are aliens reading our minds? controlling our thoughts and so on? If they were, then the only reason for that would be for an invasion. Or we could say it's 'The Matrix' and they already control us. But no...really, I don't think aliens would hold that much of an interest in us if they had that kind of intelligence, then I would believe as a whole that they don't use violence, again assuming they won't invade. They have better things to do.
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Message 1123383 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 14:38:03 UTC - in response to Message 1123372.
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Through the study of the many many disorders of the human mind, scientists have learned that they can't all be categorised into one bunch as simple "lunatics". We have isolated many disorders by studying people and we have learned that we can "treat" some of the disorders. In many cases, people can be "cured", for lack of a better word.

When i was a kid, dyslexia was a mental problem with kids. These "mentally ill" kids could not learn stuff like other children. And the best way to deal with a kid who could not learn to read was to treat them as retards, punish them and send them home to their mothers. Today we can treat dyslexic children because scientists learned to understand the problem.


This is by and large not the same thing. The misdiagnosis or mistreatment of people with problems is certainly not condoned by anyone in the scientific community.

The more we study people who say strange things, the more we understand about ourselves and the human mind. Curt is very sane, i'm just trying to understand the message he is telling people. He has something he wants to tell people. Some will write off his message as rubbish. But people like me try to understand what he is saying.


Simply reading his website you can see all sorts of personal bias, half-truths and bad assumptions. Suggesting that "voices in our heads" are the aliens trying to control our thoughts without any actual observation for such statements tends to put him firmly in the menally ill category.

What he is trying to tell people is that he hears things in his head. He has taken snippets of what other people feel, such as Nobel Prize winners stating 'intuition' helped them win, and how we don't judge them as being crazy or insane, but nonetheless concludes that they are controlled by aliens through what we call intuition. Suggesting this seems to conclude that we humans have no inate ability to do anything good without outside control or manipulation. He also suggests the opposite, that the worse of us humans have only acted as vessels being controlled by evil aliens. Either way, we humans, according to Curt, seem to have no ability to think for ourselves, save for the few that have "realized" we are being controlled. We seem to be incapable of extreme good or extreme bad of our own volition.

The only thing that can be gleemed from Curt's posting and his website is that his thought processes are not firing on all synapses in his brain. More often than not this is due to a chemical imbalance, or simply, a mental illness.

So while you may think you're doing the "scientific" thing to try to understand what it is Curt is saying, you don't hold the proper educational background in the proper field of science to identify the issue and address it.

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