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Message 1112584 - Posted: 3 Jun 2011, 8:21:42 UTC

Can anyone tell me why when friday comes i cannot download any work units,and i mean every friday it is most frustrating to leave my comp on 24/7 and no seti work gets done on friday. Sometimes it will restart downloads on saturday or sunday. Thanks guys.
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Message 1112588 - Posted: 3 Jun 2011, 8:59:39 UTC - in response to Message 1112584.
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I've not been seeing this problem. But now I am retired, observation has shown that for us UK users, probably the best time to download is, after most of the USA is asleep and before Europe gets to work.

So that is from about 07:00 to 09:00. Therefore make sure, with a few clicks on the update button, that you are not in a long, 3 to 4 hour back-off during that period.

It does help not been stuck in a traffic jam when commuting to work at that time of the day.

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Message 1112604 - Posted: 3 Jun 2011, 10:17:53 UTC - in response to Message 1112584.

If this means you are running out of WU to crunch, you might consider changing:

(On your ACCOUNT page)

Preferences
When and how BOINC uses your computer: Computing preferences

then:
Maintain enough work for an additional: -- days

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Message 1112605 - Posted: 3 Jun 2011, 10:19:59 UTC

Thanks for your reply but i can try manually using the update button all day and always get (communication deferred). What amaze's me is i can guarantee waking up on friday morning and no work units just dont understand it..
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Message 1112607 - Posted: 3 Jun 2011, 10:24:45 UTC - in response to Message 1112604.

If this means you are running out of WU to crunch, you might consider changing:

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Preferences
When and how BOINC uses your computer: Computing preferences

then:
Maintain enough work for an additional: -- days


Boinc is set to run always, i am just not getting any WU downloaded due to communication deferred. But remember this only happens from friday morning, and i mean every friday. It is so outrageous it is laughable..
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Message 1112608 - Posted: 3 Jun 2011, 10:29:08 UTC

Are you sure you haven't got other tasks set to run on Fridays like backups, restore points, virus scans etc.

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Message 1112615 - Posted: 3 Jun 2011, 10:56:35 UTC - in response to Message 1112607.

This is some info from your PC:

SETI@home Enhanced 6.03 windows_intelx86
Number of tasks completed 436
Max tasks per day 509
Number of tasks today 0
Consecutive valid tasks 400
Average processing rate 12.291274075893
Average turnaround time 0.80 days

SETI@home Enhanced 6.08 windows_intelx86 (cuda)
Number of tasks completed 43
Max tasks per day 111
Number of tasks today 0
Consecutive valid tasks 11
Average processing rate 254.92079837477
Average turnaround time 2.74 days


"Average turnaround time" shows you probably have "Maintain enough work" set for 2-3 days. The "run always" option you are referring to, is not a guarantee you will always have WU to crunch. It just means Boinc will always be ready to go to work, whether you've got WU to crunch, or not.
If you follow the previous instructions and change the number of days to something like 5 or 7, it should be enough to get you through, not only Fridays but normal weekly outages too. So no need to stress over the "retry now" button:)

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Message 1112623 - Posted: 3 Jun 2011, 11:44:17 UTC - in response to Message 1112615.


"Average turnaround time" shows you probably have "Maintain enough work" set for 2-3 days. The "run always" option you are referring to, is not a guarantee you will always have WU to crunch. It just means Boinc will always be ready to go to work, whether you've got WU to crunch, or not.
If you follow the previous instructions and change the number of days to something like 5 or 7, it should be enough to get you through, not only Fridays but normal weekly outages too. So no need to stress over the "retry now" button:)

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Hi i have just set the maintain enough work to 10 days. I do know what the "run always" means. I should have maybe asked my question in a different way so here it is. Is it normal for the download servers to be not operating on a friday.. Thanks guys.
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Message 1112645 - Posted: 3 Jun 2011, 13:19:06 UTC - in response to Message 1112623.

Is it normal for the download servers to be not operating on a friday.. Thanks guys.


The answer can be read inbetween the lines of the responses given.

To answer directly, no, it is not usual for the servers to refuse downloads on Fridays. Most people get work every day of the week except during the maintenance period on Tuesdays.

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Message 1112654 - Posted: 3 Jun 2011, 13:28:14 UTC - in response to Message 1112645.

And, specifically, neither the schedulers nor the download servers are down on this particular Friday - though they were this time last week.

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Message 1112672 - Posted: 3 Jun 2011, 14:33:54 UTC - in response to Message 1112623.

Hi i have just set the maintain enough work to 10 days.


Did BOINC request work when you did this? And if so, did the tasks download successfully?

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Message 1112981 - Posted: 4 Jun 2011, 13:21:51 UTC - in response to Message 1112672.

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Did BOINC request work when you did this? And if so, did the tasks download successfully?
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Hi some tasks were downloaded at that time and run and uploaded, at this exact point in time the boinc manager tasks tab has 79 entries awaiting download and they are not dowloading, if i try clicking on update responce is (communication deferred ) and this has been normal for me every weekend. Come monday all will return to normal, next friday here we go again. Thanks for your help
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Message 1112985 - Posted: 4 Jun 2011, 13:29:56 UTC - in response to Message 1112981.

Did BOINC request work when you did this? And if so, did the tasks download successfully?

Hi some tasks were downloaded at that time and run and uploaded, at this exact point in time the boinc manager tasks tab has 79 entries awaiting download and they are not dowloading, if i try clicking on update responce is (communication deferred ) and this has been normal for me every weekend. Come monday all will return to normal, next friday here we go again. Thanks for your help

'Update' is the wrong button to click under those circumstances. 'Update' would report completed work, and (possibly) request new work. If you have work already assigned, but waiting to download, it actually makes matters worse by wasting bandwidth.

Instead, switch to the 'Transfers' tab in BOINC Manager, and click 'Retry Now' for one of the stalled downloads. That would give you another chance to get hold of the work you've been assigned.

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Message 1112991 - Posted: 4 Jun 2011, 13:36:42 UTC - in response to Message 1112981.
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Did BOINC request work when you did this? And if so, did the tasks download successfully?


Hi some tasks were downloaded at that time and run and uploaded, at this exact point in time the boinc manager tasks tab has 79 entries awaiting download and they are not dowloading, if i try clicking on update responce is (communication deferred ) and this has been normal for me every weekend. Come monday all will return to normal, next friday here we go again. Thanks for your help

Clicking 'Update' won't help getting your downloads to download, it'll report any uploaded tasks, and maybe ask for more work, which you'll still need to download,

If you go to the Transfers tab, use Shift and select a number of downloads, then click 'Retry Now' your downloads will attempt connections again,

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Message 1112993 - Posted: 4 Jun 2011, 13:41:53 UTC

Edit: Beaten again.

Gotta be quicker mate, Richard's on the ball these days :-)

But seriously, thank you both for being so helpful and knowlegable with your replies.

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Message 1113046 - Posted: 4 Jun 2011, 15:11:20 UTC - in response to Message 1112993.

Ok guys i did the retry thing and they try to download then status column states.. Download pending (projectbackoff: 02:01:00). I have checked my connection with broadbandchecker all is well, have logged into guild wars all is well. So i think i can rule out my connection. Really guys thanks.
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Message 1113063 - Posted: 4 Jun 2011, 15:29:07 UTC - in response to Message 1113046.

Ok guys i did the retry thing and they try to download then status column states.. Download pending (projectbackoff: 02:01:00). I have checked my connection with broadbandchecker all is well, have logged into guild wars all is well. So i think i can rule out my connection. Really guys thanks.

You're got retry fairly often, the Hurricane link is Very Busy at the moment, when it is Less Busy they will go through easy,

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Message 1113081 - Posted: 4 Jun 2011, 15:52:09 UTC - in response to Message 1113063.

Oki doki will keep trying. A big thanks to all of you..
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