Does anyone if it will eventually support my Radeon 6970?


4/14/2011 4:25:17 AM||Processor: 6 AuthenticAMD AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor [Family 16 Model 10 Stepping 0]
4/14/2011 4:25:17 AM||Processor: 512.00 KB cache
4/14/2011 4:25:17 AM||Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 htt pni cx16 syscall nx lm svm sse4a osvw ibs skinit wdt page1gb rdtscp 3dnowext 3dnow
4/14/2011 4:25:17 AM||OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Home Premium x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
4/14/2011 4:25:17 AM||Memory: 8.00 GB physical, 15.99 GB virtual
4/14/2011 4:25:17 AM||Disk: 931.41 GB total, 873.37 GB free
4/14/2011 4:25:17 AM||Local time is UTC -4 hours
4/14/2011 4:25:17 AM||ATI GPU 0: ATI unknown (CAL version 1.4.1332, 2048MB, 3379 GFLOPS peak)
4/14/2011 4:25:17 AM|SETI@home|URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 5890214; resource share 100

Does anyone know if it will eventually support my Radeon 6970?


4/14/2011 4:25:17 AM||Processor: 6 AuthenticAMD AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor [Family 16 Model 10 Stepping 0]
4/14/2011 4:25:17 AM||Processor: 512.00 KB cache
4/14/2011 4:25:17 AM||Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 htt pni cx16 syscall nx lm svm sse4a osvw ibs skinit wdt page1gb rdtscp 3dnowext 3dnow
4/14/2011 4:25:17 AM||OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Home Premium x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
4/14/2011 4:25:17 AM||Memory: 8.00 GB physical, 15.99 GB virtual
4/14/2011 4:25:17 AM||Disk: 931.41 GB total, 873.37 GB free
4/14/2011 4:25:17 AM||Local time is UTC -4 hours
4/14/2011 4:25:17 AM||ATI GPU 0: ATI unknown (CAL version 1.4.1332, 2048MB, 3379 GFLOPS peak)
4/14/2011 4:25:17 AM|SETI@home|URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 5890214; resource share 100

6.12 will display the HD6900 cards name correctly. It does not effect you being able to use the ATI MB & AP applications.

Also it looks like you have the 11.3 drivers. I forget but there might have been an issue with those and the apps. Be sure to read over the threads about the apps if no one comments otherwise..

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Does anyone if it will eventually support my Radeon 6970?

Support is a two-part process. You need to first have support built into BOINC so that it can be used. Rudimentary support is built into v6.10.x for ATi GPUs, but v6.12.x (still in testing) will have better support.

The second part is the projects you belong to need to have applications that are designed to take advantage of the available hardware. At this moment, ATi is unsupported officially at SETI, and I have not seen any announcements that they will be officially supporting ATi in the near or even long term future (distant, maybe).

There is, however, unofficial support for ATi chips if you use a third party app created by Raistmer. I recently started using the app myself and it seems to do well. I, too, have an ATi Radeon HD 6970 using the Catalyst 3.11 drivers and have had no issues (the issues I thought I was having was unrelated to the video card after some digging).

Installing third party apps can require some careful creation/editing of your App_Info.XML file (you'd only have this if you're already using "optimized" third party apps). Or if you prefer, I hear the guys at Lunatics will be integrating Raistmer's ATi app into their easy-to-use installer that will make all the appropriate changes to your App_Info.XML file for you. The installer may still be a little while away before it's ready for the public.

Hope that helps!

You might be interested in this thread.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62990

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You might be interested in this thread.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62990

Also the thread on the Astropulse application.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=63517

Also a link to the lunatics Opt APP download section.
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads

General rule of thumb when switching to Opt Apps. Let your cache run dry, close BOINC, install opt apps, restart BOINC, & allow new tasks.

There are several threads on help with Opt App use/install. If you are not comfortable doing any of that you can certainly wait until the current Opt App code gets turned into a stock application.

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Ok. I have just been crunching along for a couple of years now running 0 outside applications. Above and beyond the ATi app to boost performance, would installing other aftermarket apps be adventageous for me. For the last couple of hours I have been reading about proper instilation of all the applications for my new 6970. I saw alot of stuff for AMD/64 apps. Will that optimize and speed up the rest of my apps, or should I just stick to the Radeon app for now?

Ok. I have just been crunching along for a couple of years now running 0 outside applications. Above and beyond the ATi app to boost performance, would installing other aftermarket apps be adventageous for me. For the last couple of hours I have been reading about proper instilation of all the applications for my new 6970. I saw alot of stuff for AMD/64 apps. Will that optimize and speed up the rest of my apps, or should I just stick to the Radeon app for now?

The Opt Apps tend to sort through tasks a bit quicker as each separate one is designed for the specific capabilities of your CPU. They also contain code fixes that may not yet be in the stock apps.

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The speed of the Optimized CPU Applications is 150-200% faster than stock.

And it's easier to first install the "Lunatics' Unified Installer":
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9

and then modify the created app_info.xml by adding the parts for ATI (just before the last tag </app_info>).

(!!! If you just make app_info.xml with only ATI apps all of your CPU tasks will be deleted and you will not receive more! (CPU will stay idle)
So use the "Lunatics' Unified Installer" first.

Check regularly if a new versions of "Lunatics' Unified Installer" and ATI apps are released.
(when you have app_info.xml apps are NOT auto-updated)
)

ATI OpenCL MultiBeam app (rev177)
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/12-gpu-crunching/ati-opencl-multibeam-application-released-rev177.msg35371.html;topicseen#msg35371
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;sa=dlview;id=272

ATI OpenCL AstroPulse (rev516)
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/12-gpu-crunching/ati-opencl-astropulse-rev516.0.html
ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r516.rar

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The speed of the Optimized CPU Applications is 150-200% faster than stock.

And it's easier to first install the "Lunatics' Unified Installer":
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9

and then modify the created app_info.xml by adding the parts for ATI (just before the last tag </app_info>).

(!!! If you just make app_info.xml with only ATI apps all of your CPU tasks will be deleted and you will not receive more! (CPU will stay idle)
So use the "Lunatics' Unified Installer" first.

Check regularly if a new versions of "Lunatics' Unified Installer" and ATI apps are released.
(when you have app_info.xml apps are NOT auto-updated)
)

ATI OpenCL MultiBeam app (rev177)
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/12-gpu-crunching/ati-opencl-multibeam-application-released-rev177.msg35371.html;topicseen#msg35371
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;sa=dlview;id=272

ATI OpenCL AstroPulse (rev516)
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/12-gpu-crunching/ati-opencl-astropulse-rev516.0.html
ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r516.rar

OK i installed all the above in the c:/programfiles(x86)/Boinc Directory

created my own ap_info.xml that reads like this...

<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_r177.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>MultiBeam_Kernels.cl</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>


<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>610</version_num>
<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
<avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.05</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
<cmdline>-period_iterations_num 2 -instances_per_device 1</cmdline>
<flops>20987654321</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_r177.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>MultiBeam_Kernels.cl</file_name>
<copy_file/>
</file_ref>
<coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
</app_version>

<app>
<name>astropulse_v505</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r516.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>AstroPulse_Kernels.cl</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>506</version_num>
<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
<avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.20</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
<cmdline>-instances_per_device 1 -hp -unroll 10 -ffa_block 4096 -ffa_block_fetch 2048</cmdline>
<flops>30987654321</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r516.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AstroPulse_Kernels.cl</file_name>
<copy_file/>
</file_ref>
<coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
</app_version>

when startup... boic reads this

4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM Starting BOINC client version 6.10.60 for windows_x86_64
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM Libraries: libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.3
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM Running under account Laviathon
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM Processor: 6 AuthenticAMD AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor [Family 16 Model 10 Stepping 0]
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM Processor: 512.00 KB cache
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 htt pni cx16 syscall nx lm svm sse4a osvw ibs skinit wdt page1gb rdtscp 3dnowext 3dnow
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Home Premium x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM Memory: 8.00 GB physical, 15.99 GB virtual
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM Disk: 931.41 GB total, 820.82 GB free
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM Local time is UTC -4 hours
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM ATI GPU 0: ATI unknown (CAL version 1.4.1353, 2048MB, 3379 GFLOPS peak)
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM SETI@home Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM SETI@home URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 5890214; resource share 100
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM SETI@home General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 17-Apr-2011 12:01:36)
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM SETI@home Computer location: home
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM SETI@home General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM Reading preferences override file
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM Preferences:
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM max memory usage when active: 4095.09MB
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM max memory usage when idle: 7371.16MB
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM max disk usage: 50.00GB
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM don't compute while active
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM don't use GPU while active
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 30 %
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager)


What am i missing?

OK i installed all the above in the c:/programfiles(x86)/Boinc Directory
What am i missing?

Wrong place.
All should be inside project subdirectory, not just BOINC data directory.

OK i installed all the above in the c:/programfiles(x86)/Boinc Directory
What am i missing?

Wrong place.
All should be inside project subdirectory, not just BOINC data directory.

.... Im having a little trouble finding that directory. From what i can tell its c:\programdata\boinc\projects........

Im new to windows 7. How do i get it to show the hidden directories. I can get there using the Dos emulator.

Wrong name, Wrong place, Wrong contents.

It's not ap_info.xml - is app_info.xml
Not in c:/programfiles(x86)/Boinc - in C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\
(here go also the app files, e.g. MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_r177.exe , MultiBeam_Kernels.cl , ...)

No <app_info> ........ </app_info> tags

And obviously you want desperately to loose all your CPU tasks?


! First: install the "Lunatics' Unified Installer"!


!!! P.S.
But this message shows you already have some (unknown to you) app_info.xml
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM SETI@home Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform

As I said earlier - "Lunatics' Unified Installer" creates app_info.xml
- add the parts for ATI just before the last tag </app_info> in this Lunatics-created app_info.xml

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- ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :)
 

Wrong name, Wrong place, Wrong contents.

It's not ap_info.xml - is app_info.xml
Not in c:/programfiles(x86)/Boinc - in C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\
(here go also the app files, e.g. MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_r177.exe , MultiBeam_Kernels.cl , ...)

No <app_info> ........ </app_info> tags

And obviously you want desperately to loose all your CPU tasks?


! First: install the "Lunatics' Unified Installer"!


!!! P.S.
But this message shows you already have some (unknown to you) app_info.xml
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM SETI@home Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform

I did first install Lunatics' Unified Installer. It difinatley changed the way that boinc runs.

After I downloaded and ran the unified installer I then downloaded the the other GPU apps, just obviously put them in the wrong directories. The app_info file i will fix in the correct directory.

OK i installed all the above in the c:/programfiles(x86)/Boinc Directory
What am i missing?

Wrong place.
All should be inside project subdirectory, not just BOINC data directory.

.... Im having a little trouble finding that directory. From what i can tell its c:\programdata\boinc\projects........

Im new to windows 7. How do i get it to show the hidden directories. I can get there using the Dos emulator.

nm. I got it.