I was wondering what will replace the iX cores the i3, i5, and i7 cores or family processors and when. I was wondering if I should wait until they come out or I should upgrade or the i7 2600K with new C.P.U., board, and memory or if I should wait until the new C.P.U. comes that will replace iX core technology and when the new C.P.U will come out for consumers to purchase.

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I was wondering what will replace the iX cores the i3, i5, and i7 cores or family processors and when. I was wondering if I should wait until they come out or I should upgrade or the i7 2600K with new C.P.U., board, and memory or if I should wait until the new C.P.U. comes that will replace iX core technology and when the new C.P.U will come out for consumers to purchase.

LOL, Paul........

That is always the 64 thousand dollar question.

When to upgrade?

If you wait long enough, things will be 10x as fast as they are now.

No matter what you buy, it will be obsolete in a few weeks.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

Hi Mark
I have the i7 920 for a couple of years now and I see no reason to spend 600$ on a new chip, board, and memory that is mostly the same but better performance. I would rather have more cores which I believe will be the new cores from Intel but will they be 6 or 8 cores plus hyper-threading.

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Hi Mark
I have the i7 920 for a couple of years now and I see no reason to spend 600$ on a new chip, board, and memory that is mostly the same but better performance. I would rather have more cores which I believe will be the new cores from Intel but will they be 6 or 8 cores plus hyper-threading.

Due to current economic conditions, or lack of same, I will be stuck with milking everything I can out of the current fleet.

That is, if I can even continue to pay for the electricity to run them out.

If I could do it, I would upgrade everything now.

What are they down to now......20 some nanometer?

Wow. The kitties swoon.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

I haven't worked since 2003 when I fell at work and put me in the hospital and I became permanently disabled I get my disability and I get my retirement pay but it is still not as good as my pay check I was getting so I have to watch my expenses so that is why I was wondering when the new generation of chips comes out. I am upgrading to windows 7 ultimate edition upgrade. I will be stuck on the 32bit version I have the 64-bit version on my HP laptop.

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I was wondering what will replace the iX cores the i3, i5, and i7

By themselves, i3, i5, i7 are just brands, sort of like Chevy, Oldsmobile, and Cadillac in the old GM days. If Marketing likes them, the names may hang around for generations of wildly dis-similar parts.

As to actual parts, you often learn more by using the internal code names. Sandy Bridge just hit the streets, hard and running. Intel has a lot of 32 nm factory capacity by now, so they could make an introduction at mid-range consumer price points and supply the demand. Most people here building machines in the near future should be asking themselves why not Sandy Bridge, rather than why. Especially if you do a proper life cycle power cost component in a system cost comparison, it is likely to look very good for many of the folks here (not the ultra low end or ultra high end, to be sure, but a great many folks in between.)

For a view of what is commonly known about the next few years of likely products from Intel, try using as search terms "tick tock", Ivy Bridge, Haswell, Rockwell. As to process technologies, the party line is that the pipeline continues to flow. Westmere and Sandy Bridge are on 32nm, which by now is in very high volume production. 22 nm is next, and supposedly getting well along, and 16 nm after that, with not much consumer news out.

It takes quite a while to develop a new process generation, and also a new microprocessor, so there are generally several generations in internal development at the same time.

You will probably continue to see power efficiency improvements better than we used to see. It only really became a high development priority a few years ago, and it takes time for things that have to be done at the beginning to travel through the pipeline.

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Here's what Intel says about tic-tock and Sandy Bridge is this years "tock".

Intel design teams work in parallel around the globe to deliver coordinated technology advances based on our tick-tock model. The results can be seen in product launches, such as the Visibly Smart 2nd generation Intel® Core™ processor family code name Sandy Bridge (tock).

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Here's what wikipedia says about Ivy Bridge also known as Sandy Bridge.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge_(microarchitecture)

Ivy Bridge is the codename given to the 22 nm die shrink of the Sandy Bridge architecture. According to the keynote speech presented by Paul Otellini during the 2010 Intel Developer Forum (IDF), Ivy Bridge processors may be introduced as early as the second half of 2011.[36] However, it now seems more likely that Ivy Bridge will be launched a year after Sandy Bridge, probably during CES 2012. Ivy Bridge will replace dual-core processors with quad-core processors at the entry level segment, while delivering eight-core processors for mainstream and higher-end level segments.[37]

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I am upgrading to windows 7 ultimate edition upgrade. I will be stuck on the 32bit version I have the 64-bit version on my HP laptop.

Paul,
is there a feature you need in Ultimate? Since you're upgrading from XP, you'll have to do a fresh install anyway, why not save a little cash and get Win 7 64 home premium? Unless you need something (bit locker?) in ultimate?

-Dave

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Here's what wikipedia says about Haswell and Rockwell.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haswell_(microarchitecture)

Haswell is the codename for the processor microarchitecture to be developed by Intel as the successor to Sandy Bridge. Haswell will be manufactured on the 22 nm process (tock of Ivy Bridge) and will be the first Intel CPU to implement fused multiply-add (FMA3) instructions.[1] Like Nehalem, Haswell is to be developed by Intel's Oregon team rather than by Intel's Israel Development Center (like for Core and Sandy Bridge).[2] CPUs based on the Haswell microarchitecture are expected to be released in the first half of 2013.[3]

Here's what

In keeping with Intel's tick-tock principle, the 16 nm shrink of Haswell is due out approximately one year after the introduction of the chip, and will be codenamed Rockwell.[5]

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@ dnolan
Hi Dave

I want the ultimate so I can go into the xp mode so all my software that works on XP will work on ultimate also the price was right 138$ and my store credit was good. Thanks for the info and I am not sold on 64 bit being that main stream just yet. When every thing is sold for 64 bit I will be sold also. It is like when every thing was 16 bit then windows became 32 bit and 16 bit became archaic. 32 bit is not archaic just yet.

Paul,
is there a feature you need in Ultimate? Since you're upgrading from XP, you'll have to do a fresh install anyway, why not save a little cash and get Win 7 64 home premium? Unless you need something (bit locker?) in ultimate?

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@ dnolan
Hi Dave

I want the ultimate so I can go into the xp mode so all my software that works on XP will work on ultimate also the price was right 138$ and my store credit was good. Thanks for the info and I am not sold on 64 bit being that main stream just yet. When every thing is sold for 64 bit I will be sold also. It is like when every thing was 16 bit then windows became 32 bit and 16 bit became archaic. 32 bit is not archaic just yet.

Paul,
is there a feature you need in Ultimate? Since you're upgrading from XP, you'll have to do a fresh install anyway, why not save a little cash and get Win 7 64 home premium? Unless you need something (bit locker?) in ultimate?

Ok, your choice. Just thought I'd suggest it since you can get 64 bit HP for under $100. I haven't noticed any programs that I've needed XP mode for (but you may), and 32 bit versions of things run fine in a 64 bit OS. But you get the added access to more memory with 64 bit, so if you have a decent amount of memory and a couple of video cards with a decent amount on them, too, you can use it all... Just FYI - in terms of things being made for 32/64 bit OSes, MS makes Office 2010 in both, but the default install, even on a 64 bit OS, is 32 bit, because for a suite of programs like that, there isn't any gain in going 64 bit (for almost all users). Could be a similar reason why other programs are still 32 bit, too?
Have fun with any changes you decide to do, though!

-Dave

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I use to run win2000 advanced server that ran a lot of memory but now I don't need that much memory and run at most 2 video cards but only one 460 now so my memory needs are low. When windows come out in 64 bit only I guess thats when I will be fully committed to 64 bit system. I have some older software that won't run on my HP 64 bit win7 laptop home edition

@ dnolan
Hi Dave

I want the ultimate so I can go into the xp mode so all my software that works on XP will work on ultimate also the price was right 138$ and my store credit was good. Thanks for the info and I am not sold on 64 bit being that main stream just yet. When every thing is sold for 64 bit I will be sold also. It is like when every thing was 16 bit then windows became 32 bit and 16 bit became archaic. 32 bit is not archaic just yet.

Paul,
is there a feature you need in Ultimate? Since you're upgrading from XP, you'll have to do a fresh install anyway, why not save a little cash and get Win 7 64 home premium? Unless you need something (bit locker?) in ultimate?

Ok, your choice. Just thought I'd suggest it since you can get 64 bit HP for under $100. I haven't noticed any programs that I've needed XP mode for (but you may), and 32 bit versions of things run fine in a 64 bit OS. But you get the added access to more memory with 64 bit, so if you have a decent amount of memory and a couple of video cards with a decent amount on them, too, you can use it all... Just FYI - in terms of things being made for 32/64 bit OSes, MS makes Office 2010 in both, but the default install, even on a 64 bit OS, is 32 bit, because for a suite of programs like that, there isn't any gain in going 64 bit (for almost all users). Could be a similar reason why other programs are still 32 bit, too?
Have fun with any changes you decide to do, though!

-Dave

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Well it's time to sign off for now going to watch Ghost Adventures and then Spartacus on T.V.

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When windows come out in 64 bit only I guess thats when I will be fully committed to 64 bit system.

All sorts of rumours about Win8, amongst them that it will be the last 32bit OS from Microsoft and most likely the 32bit version won't have all the features of the 64bit version (ie 32bit versions for Home, Home Premium. 64bit for Home Premium, Ultimate, Server editions).

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Grant
Darwin NT

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When windows come out in 64 bit only I guess thats when I will be fully committed to 64 bit system.

All sorts of rumours about Win8, amongst them that it will be the last 32bit OS from Microsoft and most likely the 32bit version won't have all the features of the 64bit version (ie 32bit versions for Home, Home Premium. 64bit for Home Premium, Ultimate, Server editions).

I wouldn't be surprised if you have already seen you last 32 bit version of Windows. Server 2008 R2 which is the W7 core is only available in 64bit. So don't be shocked if it happens to home users in W8. Personally at this point in time I see no reason to not be running unless you are trying to support legacy hardware or hardware from a now defunct company.

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I was wondering what will replace the iX cores the i3, i5, and i7 cores or family processors and when. I was wondering if I should wait until they come out or I should upgrade or the i7 2600K with new C.P.U., board, and memory or if I should wait until the new C.P.U. comes that will replace iX core technology and when the new C.P.U will come out for consumers to purchase.

LOL, Paul........

That is always the 64 thousand dollar question.

When to upgrade?

If you wait long enough, things will be 10x as fast as they are now.

No matter what you buy, it will be obsolete in a few weeks.

Just upgraded one box from an i7-920 to an i7-970, seeing as they have now come down in price. Just a cpu upgrade (well some spare memory I had sitting around too). It will have to do for a while.

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Just upgraded one box from an i7-920 to an i7-970, seeing as they have now come down in price. Just a cpu upgrade (well some spare memory I had sitting around too). It will have to do for a while.

But that leaves you with an unused CPU lying around. Now you need to buy a new motherboard, RAM etc to make use of it. These daays better to keep the old hardware as is & just get a new (much faster) system to run along side it.

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Grant
Darwin NT

Paul, there is a work around for installing XP mode in Win 7 Home Premium:

http://www.mydigitallife.info/2010/05/13/how-to-setup-and-get-xp-mode-on-windows-7-home-premium-and-basic/

You might consider doing that and saving a few quid/bob/bucks/dollars/kroner/francs/lira/marks/ruples/rupies/yen/yuan :)

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