Can you install SETI@home but hide it?

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Cali Send message Joined: 15 Jan 03 Posts: 121 Credit: 895,433 RAC: 0	Message 1067317 - Posted: 16 Jan 2011, 15:51:10 UTC
	Can you install seti but keep it hidden while it is running? Only way someone would notice is in taskmanager ____________
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Wandering Willie Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 134 Credit: 1,331,678 RAC: 2,244	Message 1067327 - Posted: 16 Jan 2011, 16:28:28 UTC - in response to Message 1067317.
	The way I hide BIONC on Vista is below. But again, it is who you are trying to hide it from?.{my solution no doute many more?? Close BONIC which reduces it to taskbar. Left click task bar click on properties. Notification Area click Customise. Click on BIONC dropdown menu click hide. Return to task bar. Unless the open hidden task bar is opened. No visual signs of BIONC running except in task manager. michael
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Gundolf Jahn Send message Joined: 19 Sep 00 Posts: 3101 Credit: 344,452 RAC: 101	Message 1067332 - Posted: 16 Jan 2011, 16:36:30 UTC - in response to Message 1067317.
	SETI is only visible in task manager (and BOINC manager). So, you'll only have to quit BOINC manager without stopping the science application(s) (exit dialog). Gruß, Gundolf ____________ Computer sind nicht alles im Leben. (Kleiner Scherz) SETI@home classic workunits 3,758 SETI@home classic CPU time 66,520 hours
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Dave Send message Joined: 29 Mar 02 Posts: 774 Credit: 23,193,139 RAC: 0	Message 1067335 - Posted: 16 Jan 2011, 16:38:17 UTC
	But anyone checking the machine with a microgram of sense or intelligence would question a) what the 'rogue' process(es) was/were & b) why the machine is at 100%. 100& may also bring extra noise/heat. There should never be a reason to hide it. Think again.
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Aurora Borealis Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Jan 01 Posts: 2975 Credit: 4,291,123 RAC: 1,607	Message 1067343 - Posted: 16 Jan 2011, 16:49:01 UTC
	Read our rules and policies Run SETI@home only on authorized computers Run SETI@home only on computers that you own, or for which you have obtained the owner's permission. Some companies and schools have policies that prohibit using their computers for projects such as SETI@home. ____________ Questions? Answers are in the "Unofficial" BOINC Wiki. Boinc V7.0.27 Win7 i5 3.33G 4GB, GTX470
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MikeC Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 24 May 99 Posts: 5 Credit: 260,443,967 RAC: 0	Message 1067378 - Posted: 16 Jan 2011, 18:30:32 UTC - in response to Message 1067317.
	Install it as a service then delete the icons from the all users start menu. I do this on a older version of boinc. ____________
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Raistmer Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 2626 Credit: 26,650,872 RAC: 35,863	Message 1067399 - Posted: 16 Jan 2011, 19:22:19 UTC
	Task manager will not show all processes for regular user, but regular user can still see (at least with default config) 100% busy CPU. Usual PC will not have 100% CPU usage constantly. So this could rise some user questions anyway.
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[seti.international] Philip J. Fry Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 6633 Credit: 51,272,614 RAC: 17,505	Message 1067508 - Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 1:15:34 UTC - in response to Message 1067317. Last modified: 17 Jan 2011, 1:18:38 UTC
	Can you install seti but keep it hidden while it is running? Only way someone would notice is in taskmanager But, why you should do this? If you think about to install BOINC/S@h on your PC/s at work, maybe one feet is already 'terminated'.. You must ask your company/chief first. Make a forum or Google search with 'NEZ'. ;-) ____________ >Das Deutsche Cafe. The German Cafe.<
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Odysseus Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Jul 99 Posts: 1786 Credit: 3,765,878 RAC: 461	Message 1067592 - Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 8:07:01 UTC - in response to Message 1067335.
	There should never be a reason to hide it. Think again. Never say never: unobtrusive ≠ clandestine. Suppose you had a non-technical friend or co-worker who says “I’ll let you install SETI on my computer, but only if I can’t even tell it’s there.” ____________
	ID: 1067592 ·

James Sotherden Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 6075 Credit: 15,274,167 RAC: 24,417	Message 1067662 - Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 15:51:35 UTC - in response to Message 1067592.
	There should never be a reason to hide it. Think again. Never say never: unobtrusive ≠ clandestine. Suppose you had a non-technical friend or co-worker who says “I’ll let you install SETI on my computer, but only if I can’t even tell it’s there.” Well, He'd better be the owner of the company then. I was going to be a wise guy when this was first posted and say, Nez must have got a new job. But Me thinks that something smells about this question. Installed on a bunch of relatives computers perhaps? ____________
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perryjay Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3359 Credit: 9,973,206 RAC: 12,730	Message 1067675 - Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 16:23:14 UTC - in response to Message 1067662.
	It could be family computers where he doesn't want the kids to see it and start messing around with it. ____________ PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC
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Cali Send message Joined: 15 Jan 03 Posts: 121 Credit: 895,433 RAC: 0	Message 1067679 - Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 16:37:10 UTC - in response to Message 1067675.
	Just friend and family computers...but don't want them to see it incase they uninstall it. Most arent computer savvy ____________
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James Sotherden Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 6075 Credit: 15,274,167 RAC: 24,417	Message 1067703 - Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 17:45:27 UTC
	Thats what I thought. Running SETI in secret. NOT COOL AT ALL. Ever try and ask them if you could run it? Im betting some said no. So you would hijack thier computers, use the electricty they pay for. Possibly shorten the life of said computer or componets, All for a few credits? E-mail Nez and ask him how that turned out. ____________
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soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6231 Credit: 27,539,417 RAC: 1,234	Message 1067709 - Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 17:56:10 UTC - in response to Message 1067679.
	Just friend and family computers...but don't want them to see it incase they uninstall it. Most arent computer savvy Hmm if that is how you treat your family and friends, I would hate to think how you treat your enemies. ____________ Janice
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msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34718 Credit: 355,347,026 RAC: 377,512	Message 1067725 - Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 18:42:44 UTC
	Why are you all assuming he wants to do this on the sly? Maybe he just wants to fix it so the kids don't disable it while playing pacman. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
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soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6231 Credit: 27,539,417 RAC: 1,234	Message 1067726 - Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 18:46:40 UTC - in response to Message 1067725.
	Why are you all assuming he wants to do this on the sly? Maybe he just wants to fix it so the kids don't disable it while playing pacman. read up 3 posts. That is why. ____________ Janice
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skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 8973 Credit: 37,829,106 RAC: 43,316	Message 1067729 - Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 18:52:11 UTC - in response to Message 1067726.
	Yep its already been stated you are not allowed to install the software on computers that you don't own or have the owners permission to use. By placing BOINC on a computer then hiding it so they won't uninstall means you either are trying to get around them knowing about it or you suspect they are incompetent enough to dump your BOINC work. I'm betting you are doing something your shouldn't and perhaps this thread should be locked down ____________ Proud member of TSWB. End terrorism by building a school
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James Sotherden Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 6075 Credit: 15,274,167 RAC: 24,417	Message 1067730 - Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 18:54:27 UTC - in response to Message 1067726.
	Why are you all assuming he wants to do this on the sly? Maybe he just wants to fix it so the kids don't disable it while playing pacman. read up 3 posts. That is why. My grandkids play all sorts of crap while I run boinc. Never hurt anything yet. Im sure they might slow it down, But why would I have to hide it. ____________
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msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34718 Credit: 355,347,026 RAC: 377,512	Message 1067733 - Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 18:59:39 UTC - in response to Message 1067730. Last modified: 17 Jan 2011, 19:01:35 UTC
	Why are you all assuming he wants to do this on the sly? Maybe he just wants to fix it so the kids don't disable it while playing pacman. read up 3 posts. That is why. My grandkids play all sorts of crap while I run boinc. Never hurt anything yet. Im sure they might slow it down, But why would I have to hide it. Well, only he knows his reasons and motives, but I could see somebody with limited computer skills accidentally clicking on something in Boinc whilst poking around and not knowing how to set it right again. That's all I was getting at. I certainly would not condone installing it on anybody else's computer without permission and 'hiding' it just so they didn't know it was there. I was just leaving open the possibility that there might be a valid reason for wanting to have Boinc inaccessible, especially on a computer you don't have access to all the time and is used by others. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
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James Sotherden Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 6075 Credit: 15,274,167 RAC: 24,417	Message 1067735 - Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 19:09:15 UTC
	I would agree Mark if it was his computers. By his admission they are not. ____________
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