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Message 1044235 - Posted: 27 Oct 2010, 21:36:08 UTC

Welcome back, here is hoping that whatever software problems or database issues have been cleansed via this latest process so that when the new hardware arrives and is cleanly configured we can see a run of up time.
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Message 1044237 - Posted: 27 Oct 2010, 21:38:20 UTC

AMEN!!!

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Message 1044238 - Posted: 27 Oct 2010, 21:40:20 UTC - in response to Message 1044235.  

Welcome back, here is hoping that whatever software problems or database issues have been cleansed via this latest process so that when the new hardware arrives and is cleanly configured we can see a run of up time.


Good luck with that.
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Message 1044239 - Posted: 27 Oct 2010, 21:40:46 UTC - in response to Message 1044237.  

Hi, Good to be back
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Message 1044240 - Posted: 27 Oct 2010, 21:43:14 UTC

It's alive!!!
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Message 1044241 - Posted: 27 Oct 2010, 21:43:59 UTC - in response to Message 1044239.  

Hi, Does anyone know the date the new hardware arrives.
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Message 1044242 - Posted: 27 Oct 2010, 21:44:24 UTC
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Ahhhhhh thats much better !!!!
Now would be a good time to lend a hand by crunching for another project like milkyway which now has a gpu fermi app....tried it works well and tasks validate fine.
[url]http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/...ad.php?id=1987
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Message 1044251 - Posted: 27 Oct 2010, 23:50:41 UTC - in response to Message 1044241.  

Hi, Does anyone know the date the new hardware arrives.


From the last non-official word I saw it should be here sometime in the week of the 8th of November. That is probably just the first one and it will still take time to get it loaded and broken in and up to speed. Figure at the best, the middle to the third quarter of next month.



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Message 1044257 - Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 0:01:32 UTC - in response to Message 1044242.  

Ahhhhhh thats much better !!!!
Now would be a good time to lend a hand by crunching for another project like milkyway which now has a gpu fermi app....tried it works well and tasks validate fine.
[url]http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/...ad.php?id=1987
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Just tried to crunch on Milkyway with my Fermi, doesnt work. Just gives computation errors all along :-S
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Message 1044259 - Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 0:07:27 UTC - in response to Message 1044257.  

Ahhhhhh thats much better !!!!
Now would be a good time to lend a hand by crunching for another project like milkyway which now has a gpu fermi app....tried it works well and tasks validate fine.
[url]http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/...ad.php?id=1987
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Just tried to crunch on Milkyway with my Fermi, doesnt work. Just gives computation errors all along :-S

You tried the modified app? http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/forum_thread.php?id=1987&nowrap=true#42940
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Message 1044262 - Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 0:29:35 UTC
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Welcome back. The withdrawal shakes should ease up shortly. Missed most of you all here.
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Message 1044272 - Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 1:19:36 UTC

We need a backup forum to use to discuss these unexpected downtimes. Any ideas? The one at boincstats? One at boinc.berkeley.edu? Others?
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Message 1044273 - Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 1:23:14 UTC

Yes glad to see it is getting closer to operational again. I just started crunching seti again when it went down.

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Message 1044282 - Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 1:54:11 UTC
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Yes, Welcome Back. Maybe we'll get restarted soon. But before we get delerious with joy, let's hope with crossed fingers that the "men of the hill" (Berkeley SSL) actually found something to fix. If not, we are in for continuing Halloween Goblins of the same type experienced in recent months.

Consider this: Jocelyn, a few years ago, was the primary BOINC db for many years, and ran without a hitch. She was replaced by Mork as the primary because of Mork's greater power, not because of problems. Jocelyn, now as secondary, continued to run flawlessly. Mork had all the problems. So "the team" swapped Jocelyn back in as primary. Jocelyn was expected to run flawlessly, as before. But NO, she stubs her toe, not once, but twice within the first week as primary, while Mork runs on happily as secondary.

This suggests to me that the computer running as primary is subject to crashes. Suppose Oscar arrives and is installed as primary, and then suffers similiar crashes. We are nowhere.

So, I suggest that the root of the problem is external to any given computer which is installed as primary.

What could this problem be? Maybe software. Maybe links among the various computers to the primary. Maybe a faulty ethernet cable that is bent too tightly. Maybe the gigaswitch which is connected to every box in the closet. Not being an expert of any sort, there could be many causes that I have not thought of.

But I suspect that the problem is external to any given computer installed as primary.

Best wishes to all.
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Message 1044358 - Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 9:20:52 UTC - in response to Message 1044282.  

Primary server experiences much bigger load than secondary and than primary before. It's just common rule - no one can work on peak performance too long. Not "fleshware" nor hardware. New server should have bigger capacity so hopefully it will not on peak at current workload so should not fail so often.
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Message 1044366 - Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 10:58:47 UTC

i thought it was because of work load on primary server too but as am new to pc,s i did not say so
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Message 1044378 - Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 13:25:28 UTC - in response to Message 1044272.  

We need a backup forum to use to discuss these unexpected downtimes. Any ideas? The one at boincstats? One at boinc.berkeley.edu? Others?


I agree. Maybe we should get a separate forum; climateprediction.net project uses this one: http://www.phpbb.com. Then, we could get rid of the message boards here (leaving the Q&A section of course). The separate forums could stay up during the maintenance window, because they don't need to backup the forum database.

This would have to happen sometime after the new server arrives. I'm not sure what spare hardware lays around that could be a good enough server for this purpose.
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Message 1044384 - Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 13:44:37 UTC - in response to Message 1044378.  

We need a backup forum to use to discuss these unexpected downtimes. Any ideas? The one at boincstats? One at boinc.berkeley.edu? Others?


I agree. Maybe we should get a separate forum; climateprediction.net project uses this one: http://www.phpbb.com. Then, we could get rid of the message boards here (leaving the Q&A section of course). The separate forums could stay up during the maintenance window, because they don't need to backup the forum database.

This would have to happen sometime after the new server arrives. I'm not sure what spare hardware lays around that could be a good enough server for this purpose.


Message boards already have their own server The problem is the box on the right
of each message... It's database driven ... that information is derived from the
database that is down for maintenance
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Message 1044386 - Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 13:47:43 UTC - in response to Message 1044384.  

Message boards already have their own server The problem is the box on the right
of each message... It's database driven ... that information is derived from the
database that is down for maintenance


That's not how the BOINC infrastructure is set up. The BOINC forum tables are in the same database as the result tables. By creating a separate forum system, the forum tables will be located on a different database. Otherwise, there's no point.
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Message 1044409 - Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 15:47:27 UTC - in response to Message 1044386.  

Message boards already have their own server The problem is the box on the right
of each message... It's database driven ... that information is derived from the
database that is down for maintenance


That's not how the BOINC infrastructure is set up. The BOINC forum tables are in the same database as the result tables. By creating a separate forum system, the forum tables will be located on a different database. Otherwise, there's no point.


What ever..Status page says data-driven web pages are on thinman and list no other use of thinman

is not the info in the right hand box results from the the results tables
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