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Raistmer Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 3368 Credit: 46,101,134 RAC: 24,245	Message 1008217 - Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 18:17:20 UTC - in response to Message 1008207. Last modified: 25 Jun 2010, 18:26:23 UTC
	Making link live: Goodsearch [ no support via toolbar for Chrome though, but IE and probably other browsers will go! Install it and help SETI in fund-rising! ] And if you do purchases on eBay as most of us do it will help too! I just recived : your purchase will give 25-37% to SETI as donation! How pity we didn't have this earlier!!!
	ID: 1008217 ·

JohnDK Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 28 May 00 Posts: 829 Credit: 40,553,380 RAC: 68,834	Message 1008226 - Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 18:33:10 UTC
	Works in IE8, but I normally don't have a toolbar and this toolbar is very ugly + uses yahoo for searching, I use google...
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Robert Ribbeck Send message Joined: 7 Jun 02 Posts: 644 Credit: 5,283,174 RAC: 0	Message 1008232 - Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 18:39:16 UTC - in response to Message 1008207.
	Josef W. Segur wrote: "If 5000 participants each donated $100 the project would have enough money to really consider possible expansion rather than just minimal maintenance. Or 50000 participants (less than a third of active participants) donating the minimum $10 would do the same. In my mind, what they get from grants is great, but any grant is aimed at some specific goal identified in the grant proposal. Cash donations ought to have fewer strings attached, and if they are more than strictly "needed" now that's very good. Such a small portion of the electromagnetic spectrum and sky area is now being searched it's a crying shame. Given enough funding the project could expand the frequency range covered in recording from the ALFA receiver, or put another recorder at another telescope, or... Am I wrong to think that probably many participants have considered donating but put it off in favor of buying another coffee at Starbucks, etc. because that's an easier and more familiar way of disposing of cash? Has the effort to set up a non-profit situation such that S@H could accept PayPal donations totally died? How many participants have considered using Goodsearch to generate at least some small cash flow to S@H? Joe" i'm making this sticky but you ignore the fact most of the ACTIVE participants also see the mis management & lack of accountability by said management. Many of whom have been abused by the cheer leaders for even commenting. ____________
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Raistmer Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 3368 Credit: 46,101,134 RAC: 24,245	Message 1008235 - Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 18:44:03 UTC - in response to Message 1008226.
	Works in IE8, but I normally don't have a toolbar and this toolbar is very ugly + uses yahoo for searching, I use google... IMO it's second-order moments. I used Chrome and Nigma as search engine, but surely installed this toolbar in IE and will make all new searches and eBay purchases via it!
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Raistmer Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 3368 Credit: 46,101,134 RAC: 24,245	Message 1008236 - Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 18:46:51 UTC - in response to Message 1008232.
	but you ignore the fact most of the ACTIVE participants also see the mis management & lack of accountability by said management. Many of whom have been abused by the cheer leaders for even commenting. Make distinction between BOINC and SETI@home project. They are closely connected, but it's not the same. Here we donate to SETI, not BOINC. And latest troubles came from BOINC part solely, keep this in mind!
	ID: 1008236 ·

Robert Ribbeck Send message Joined: 7 Jun 02 Posts: 644 Credit: 5,283,174 RAC: 0	Message 1008239 - Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 18:50:52 UTC - in response to Message 1008236.
	but you ignore the fact most of the ACTIVE participants also see the mis management & lack of accountability by said management. Many of whom have been abused by the cheer leaders for even commenting. Make distinction between BOINC and SETI@home project. They are closely connected, but it's not the same. Here we donate to SETI, not BOINC. And latest troubles came from BOINC part solely, keep this in mind! We'll that's a big surprise Seti server crashes were caused by Boinc REALLY ____________
	ID: 1008239 ·

Raistmer Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 3368 Credit: 46,101,134 RAC: 24,245	Message 1008241 - Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 18:56:31 UTC - in response to Message 1008239.
	Server is hardware. No one can prevent it from crash time to time and it was repaired ASAP by SETI crew. What their fault do you see here?? Most of latest downtime came from BOINC server code upgrade. Look in forums deeply ;)
	ID: 1008241 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 38320 Credit: 559,647,096 RAC: 645,637	Message 1008243 - Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 19:00:56 UTC - in response to Message 1008241. Last modified: 25 Jun 2010, 19:06:10 UTC
	Server is hardware. No one can prevent it from crash time to time and it was repaired ASAP by SETI crew. What their fault do you see here?? Most of latest downtime came from BOINC server code upgrade. Look in forums deeply ;) Well, Robert would have you believe that even RAID drive array crashes are the 'fault' of the Seti staff....LOL. BTW, to stay on topic.... $100.00 from the kitties to Seti on June 4th. ____________ ********************************************* Embrace your inner kitty...ya know ya wanna! I have met a few friends in my life. Most were cats.
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JohnDK Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 28 May 00 Posts: 829 Credit: 40,553,380 RAC: 68,834	Message 1008254 - Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 19:37:04 UTC - in response to Message 1008226.
	Works in IE8, but I normally don't have a toolbar and this toolbar is very ugly + uses yahoo for searching, I use google... Quoting myself ;) Happily I discovered it's possibly to add the Goodsearch engine to the standard IE7+8 search box http://www.goodsearch.com/toolbar/mode/ie-plugin
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MadMaC Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Apr 01 Posts: 201 Credit: 47,158,217 RAC: 0	Message 1008285 - Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 20:17:20 UTC - in response to Message 1008239.
	but you ignore the fact most of the ACTIVE participants also see the mis management & lack of accountability by said management. Many of whom have been abused by the cheer leaders for even commenting. We'll that's a big surprise Seti server crashes were caused by Boinc REALLY[/quote] Robert - please get a sense of perspective and stop trolling.. I work in IT, and with the resources the seti staff have it is nothing short of a miracle that they keep it up so much. Milions of clients connecting every day and huge databases and a maxed out ethernet link equal nothing but trouble. If it bothers you that much, stop complaining and donate.. This has finally convinced me that I need to, so check back on payday and you will see I have a green star, I hope you have the decency to do the same.. ____________
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ignorance is no excuse Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9529 Credit: 44,433,274 RAC: 0	Message 1008293 - Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 20:36:32 UTC - in response to Message 1008285.
	I noticed my star had lapsed. I made my yearly today ____________ In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope End terrorism by building a school
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Bill Walker Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 3330 Credit: 1,967,287 RAC: 2,181	Message 1008326 - Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 21:45:40 UTC
	Just signed up for Goodsearch. Does anyone know if we can see any statistics about how much actually reaches S@H? That will give me something to look at when I don't have WUs ;). ____________
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Sten-Arne Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 1 Nov 08 Posts: 3334 Credit: 19,033,501 RAC: 21,108	Message 1008330 - Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 21:50:12 UTC - in response to Message 1008207. Last modified: 25 Jun 2010, 21:52:18 UTC
	I will donate, and I will donate much, when PayPal works for donations to SETI. Until then my only donation to SETI is crunching and electricity. SETI misses out on hundreds of thousands of dollars by not having the PayPal option. Most people from outside of the U.S, will not donate unless there's a PayPal type of option. It's too complicated as it is now, and bear in mind that the rest of the world does not use credit card payments in the same way as people in the U.S does. Most people from outside the U.S, will refuse using their VISA/Mastercard directly for such a donation. I for one, refuse to give out my VISA card number online to ANYTHING. Also remember that participants from the rest of the world, can not claim tax deduction for such a donation. I repeat myself: Make PayPal an option, and cash will start flowing in, in a way never seen before. Until that happens, SETI will run on a shoe string budget forever. ____________
	ID: 1008330 ·

JohnDK Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 28 May 00 Posts: 829 Credit: 40,553,380 RAC: 68,834	Message 1008332 - Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 21:54:33 UTC
	Well I use my VISA online and has done it several times, so far no problems...
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JohnDK Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 28 May 00 Posts: 829 Credit: 40,553,380 RAC: 68,834	Message 1008337 - Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 22:02:45 UTC
	IE8 kept crashing when closing it, I uninstalled the Goodsearch toolbar and it stopped doing that...
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Bill Walker Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 3330 Credit: 1,967,287 RAC: 2,181	Message 1008348 - Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 22:25:29 UTC - in response to Message 1008326. Last modified: 25 Jun 2010, 22:26:59 UTC
	Just signed up for Goodsearch. Does anyone know if we can see any statistics about how much actually reaches S@H? I apologize if it is rude to answer your own posts, but just found this. 36 cents in January to $2.63 in May is a good trend, but we need many more people to sign up to make any difference. Also, IE8 closes and opens just fine for me after installing Goodsearch. And you can leave other toolbars open, if you like. ____________
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JohnDK Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 28 May 00 Posts: 829 Credit: 40,553,380 RAC: 68,834	Message 1008353 - Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 22:31:53 UTC
	Don't know, maybe the Goodsearch toolbar conflicts with some other stuff I have installed. Anyway, I don't like have a toolbar at all, so I'll stick with searching from the IE8 search box using Goodsearch.
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Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 8375 Credit: 46,700,059 RAC: 19,996	Message 1008358 - Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 22:46:41 UTC - in response to Message 1008330.
	I will donate, and I will donate much, when PayPal works for donations to SETI. Until then my only donation to SETI is crunching and electricity. SETI misses out on hundreds of thousands of dollars by not having the PayPal option. Most people from outside of the U.S, will not donate unless there's a PayPal type of option. It's too complicated as it is now, and bear in mind that the rest of the world does not use credit card payments in the same way as people in the U.S does. Most people from outside the U.S, will refuse using their VISA/Mastercard directly for such a donation. I for one, refuse to give out my VISA card number online to ANYTHING. Also remember that participants from the rest of the world, can not claim tax deduction for such a donation. I repeat myself: Make PayPal an option, and cash will start flowing in, in a way never seen before. Until that happens, SETI will run on a shoe string budget forever. That may be the Swedish perspective, but I don't think it's fair to generalise that to "Most people from outside the U.S, ...". I use Visa credit cards online without fear (though I check the site credentials as best I can). I have had the card suspended - through vigilance by the card provider spotting suspicious transactions: the last time it happened, I'm pretty sure it was skimmed at a big-brand car parts store just three miles from my house - a physical purchase, where the card never left my sight. But for SETI, I prefer to use my Visa debit card - smaller fee charged by the handling company, better exchange rate (did someone say it was good at the moment? Must check - I'm getting close to star renewal date), and no problems at all in previous years.
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Sten-Arne Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 1 Nov 08 Posts: 3334 Credit: 19,033,501 RAC: 21,108	Message 1008367 - Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 23:09:01 UTC - in response to Message 1008358. Last modified: 25 Jun 2010, 23:10:31 UTC
	But for SETI, I prefer to use my Visa debit card - smaller fee charged by the handling company, better exchange rate (did someone say it was good at the moment? Must check - I'm getting close to star renewal date), and no problems at all in previous years. Well I do not have any credit card, I refuse using credit cards, having the perhaps unusual philosophy in todays society, that if I do not have the money to buy things, then maybe I shouldn't buy them at all. My VISA card is a debit card, but as I said, I refuse to give out my card details online. Logging in to my bank though, I can easily transfer money to my PayPal account, but since SETI doesn't accept PayPal payment, then they obviously does not want my money. ____________
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JohnDK Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 28 May 00 Posts: 829 Credit: 40,553,380 RAC: 68,834	Message 1008371 - Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 23:16:52 UTC
	Or send a check by mail http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/donate_bymail.php
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