I always say that the far right has a low opinion of humanity.
Those of you who buy into this greed driven form of existence must project that onto others in a case of self delusion to salve your own souls.
I suppose the reason for this is that you think you are normal, so everyone one else must feel the same levels of greed as you.

There are many powerful forces that drive humans.
The most powerful force would probably be love. Love has been the inspiration for some of humanities finest moments in art, literature and of course real life.
For love, people have both aspired to greatness and also given up everything.

Wonder, or our sense of discovery is another. The wonder of knowing the universe and all it's secrets drives people. The wonder of what's over the horizon has caused us to cross continents and oceans. It will eventually send us to the stars.

You can live in your greed inspired world if you see fit, but I find greater things than greed while sitting in my boat on a quiet lake as the sun rises.
You can equate all human activity with greed but the vast majority of people are inspired and driven by far better things.

I know that the things I do are not for greed. I know it in my gut.
When I spent untold hours performing unpaid union work, it wasn't greed driving me, it was to try and better the lives of those I worked with.
I still go to work every day, like the vast majority of common people. It isn't greed that sends me to work. Necessity drives me to work. In the same way hunter/gatherers must get out to provide the necessities so must we. Our society may be greatly different from that of hunter/gatherers, but our necessities are the same.
We all must have food, water and shelter. If, in an industrial society, one acquires material goods as a side benefit of one's labours, it doesn't mean it's due to greed. It's simply a byproduct of living in an industrial society.

It doesn't matter to me that people like you don't get it.
The reason you don't get it is directly proportional to your own level of greed.

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I do not fight fascists because I think I can win.
I fight them because they are fascists.
Chris Hedges

A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr.

I always say that the far right has a low opinion of humanity.
Those of you who buy into this greed driven form of existence must project that onto others in a case of self delusion to salve your own souls.
I suppose the reason for this is that you think you are normal, so everyone one else must feel the same levels of greed as you.

There are many powerful forces that drive humans.
The most powerful force would probably be love. Love has been the inspiration for some of humanities finest moments in art, literature and of course real life.
For love, people have both aspired to greatness and also given up everything.

Wonder, or our sense of discovery is another. The wonder of knowing the universe and all it's secrets drives people. The wonder of what's over the horizon has caused us to cross continents and oceans. It will eventually send us to the stars.

You can live in your greed inspired world if you see fit, but I find greater things than greed while sitting in my boat on a quiet lake as the sun rises.
You can equate all human activity with greed but the vast majority of people are inspired and driven by far better things.

I know that the things I do are not for greed. I know it in my gut.
When I spent untold hours performing unpaid union work, it wasn't greed driving me, it was to try and better the lives of those I worked with.
I still go to work every day, like the vast majority of common people. It isn't greed that sends me to work. Necessity drives me to work. In the same way hunter/gatherers must get out to provide the necessities so must we. Our society may be greatly different from that of hunter/gatherers, but our necessities are the same.
We all must have food, water and shelter. If, in an industrial society, one acquires material goods as a side benefit of one's labours, it doesn't mean it's due to greed. It's simply a byproduct of living in an industrial society.

It doesn't matter to me that people like you don't get it.
The reason you don't get it is directly proportional to your own level of greed.

The truth comes out. The only reasons for Unions today is to get higher pay at the expense of those who don't belong to a Union. You are just as greedy as the rest of us and maybe more so.

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If bettering working people's lives is seen as a bad thing by you...I guess I'm doing something right.

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I do not fight fascists because I think I can win.
I fight them because they are fascists.
Chris Hedges

A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr.

“A Native American grandfather talking to his young grandson tells the boy he has two wolves inside of him struggling with each other. The first is the wolf of peace, love and kindness. The other wolf is fear, greed and hatred. "Which wolf will win, grandfather?" asks the young boy. "Whichever one I feed," is the reply.”

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I do not fight fascists because I think I can win.
I fight them because they are fascists.
Chris Hedges

A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr.

There is nothing wrong with helping people and I do it when I can. The reason is when I make an impact on a persons life, I get a good feeling. The reason I continue to do so is because I crave that feeling and my payment for the service is the feeling. Because I want even more, I call that my greed.

Wanting more is what created the world we live in today. Without greed we would still be living in trees.

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There is nothing wrong with helping people and I do it when I can. The reason is when I make an impact on a persons life, I get a good feeling. The reason I continue to do so is because I crave that feeling and my payment for the service is the feeling. Because I want even more, I call that my greed.

Wanting more is what created the world we live in today. Without greed we would still be living in trees.

When you help someone, you get a good feeling.
The corporatist profiteering pampered elites have told you this is greed.
I call it the thing that makes us human.

Greed is the accumulation of capital and goods beyond the point where your needs are being met. (with allowances for some creature comforts)

When one has so much that several generations of their family can live in Calligula-like splendor while doing nothing productive for society. That is greed.

You don't seem like one consumed with greed in that last post. I'm thinking you just need to lay off reading the right wing garbage.

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I do not fight fascists because I think I can win.
I fight them because they are fascists.
Chris Hedges

A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr.

There is nothing wrong with helping people and I do it when I can. The reason is when I make an impact on a persons life, I get a good feeling. The reason I continue to do so is because I crave that feeling and my payment for the service is the feeling. Because I want even more, I call that my greed.

Wanting more is what created the world we live in today. Without greed we would still be living in trees.

When you help someone, you get a good feeling.
The corporatist profiteering pampered elites have told you this is greed.
I call it the thing that makes us human.

Greed is the accumulation of capital and goods beyond the point where your needs are being met. (with allowances for some creature comforts)

When one has so much that several generations of their family can live in Calligula-like splendor while doing nothing productive for society. That is greed.

You don't seem like one consumed with greed in that last post. I'm thinking you just need to lay off reading the right wing garbage.

The feeling I get is not greed, but the fact that I want more is.

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The feeling I get is not greed, but the fact that I want more is.

That feeling is caused by the release of endorphines into the brain via the bloodstream.

The truth of the matter is you want more because of the reward your body has given itself for doing good.
This isn't greed. You simply want more because it feels good to do good works for your community and social group.

Greed doesn't present this same physiological response within the body because greed is a selfish act.
Performing a selfish act serves no usefull purpose to the survival of the tribe and evolution hasn't provided us with a greed pleasure response.
In fact, most normal humans have a shameful response to acts of greed.

Greed is counter productive in terms of human survival.
We are a social animal and we have been conditioned by natural selection to perform as a part of the collective.
Without this positive response to acts of kindness and generosity, we would never have come down from the trees.

It wasn't greed that drove human evolution, it was our collective need to nurture others in our group by the sharing of possessions and food.

Please excuse any spelling errors...I had a few cocktails after work.

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I do not fight fascists because I think I can win.
I fight them because they are fascists.
Chris Hedges

A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr.

The feeling I get is not greed, but the fact that I want more is.

That feeling is caused by the release of endorphines into the brain via the bloodstream.

The truth of the matter is you want more because of the reward your body has given itself for doing good.
This isn't greed. You simply want more because it feels good to do good works for your community and social group.

Greed doesn't present this same physiological response within the body because greed is a selfish act.
Performing a selfish act serves no usefull purpose to the survival of the tribe and evolution hasn't provided us with a greed pleasure response.
In fact, most normal humans have a shameful response to acts of greed.

Greed is counter productive in terms of human survival.
We are a social animal and we have been conditioned by natural selection to perform as a part of the collective.
Without this positive response to acts of kindness and generosity, we would never have come down from the trees.

It wasn't greed that drove human evolution, it was our collective need to nurture others in our group by the sharing of possessions and food.

Please excuse any spelling errors...I had a few cocktails after work.

I don't indulge, my spelling errors come naturally or as the result of a school system that didn't know what they were doing and didn't teach Phonics.

I have spent many years trying to understand myself and others. Groups such as American indians who live in a society such as you describe never moved above hunter gather till they were exposed to the white mans ways. Even today indians living under the reservation system are not very motivated to do better. Some of the tribes that have casinos have outside people operate the casinos while the tribe members live off their small share of the earnings. They could get jobs in the casino but a lack of greed and your sharing of human kindness lead the to a life of diabetes and an early death. Or more likely their greed is saying why work when I don't need to.

Not all indians take this path. My roommate who is part indian was on a trip with the motor home and needed a diesel repair. The shop I located for her had a full blooded indian living on a reservation but working off the reservation. He not only made the repair but located the reason why the part broke (an incorrect repair) and fixed it so we shouldn't have problems with it again. His motivation was the reservations location was to far from people to have a casino and he wanted more out of life.

The same happened in Russia. Because greed only worked for those placed high in the government, the worker had not reason to work hard. Working hard was a disadvantage because hard work lead to a higher quota for which you received the same rate of pay. In this case greed is saying the best value for my effort is to only produce my quota and then spend the day getting drunk. No kidding, that is what they did. If you don't believe me, try reading Mig Pilot and you will see what it's like to live in your dream world.

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Well, I can see again that any hope of possibly getting you to look beyond your own little version of the world according to Beckerhead is fruitless.

I try to show that the human spirit can soar while you respond with lazy Indians and drunken Russians as examples of why we need greed.

God damn Ronald Reagan to hell for doing away with the Fairness Doctrine for broadcasters. It has lead to idiots like Beckerhead and Fatface Limbaugh brainwashing an entire segment of a once vibrant society.
Have a happy tea party.

I think I'm done with this.

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I do not fight fascists because I think I can win.
I fight them because they are fascists.
Chris Hedges

A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr.