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Message 1100986 - Posted: 27 Apr 2011, 8:38:23 UTC - in response to Message 1100979.

I can change the title, if the Setizens what [want?] it.

Why should the title be changed? It's the topic of a one-year-old news item, which by (wanted) "discussion" remains near the top of the subforum.

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Message 1101003 - Posted: 27 Apr 2011, 10:43:42 UTC

and more than one planet supporting Intelligent life whom i know has already found us


They have? Gulp .....

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Message 1101341 - Posted: 28 Apr 2011, 12:02:15 UTC

We need to stop debating the subject and just keep looking.

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Message 1102154 - Posted: 30 Apr 2011, 15:40:21 UTC - in response to Message 1101341.

We need to stop debating the subject and just keep looking.


Which is not getting easier with the allen array gone now...
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Message 1103852 - Posted: 6 May 2011, 12:42:12 UTC

Well of course it could be that there are thousands of civilisations out there doing exactly what we are doing, i.e. just looking and listening. But if none of them or us are actually broadcasting anything to be found, then no-one anywhere will find anybody ......

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Message 1103928 - Posted: 6 May 2011, 17:59:50 UTC

You have a point there Chris.
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Message 1105049 - Posted: 11 May 2011, 1:07:27 UTC
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For Joe or anyone else unable to download the video file....................

I have it downloaded and can put on a CD for you. Just PM me with the name and address to send it to.

And at no cost to you. (USA only) You can't beat that!!

This applies to "Great_Debate" 248 MB mp4 video only. I have no others on hand.
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Message 1105112 - Posted: 11 May 2011, 9:11:34 UTC

And going back further, there was only one big 'continent', which has been in a constant move and split up, to, as we know it now.


The Super Continent Pangaea broke up into two smaller Continents, the Laurasia in the Northern Hemisphere and the Gondwana or Gondwanaland in the Southern Hemisphere.

The first breakup happened over just 25M years, and there could well have been some vicious earthquakes associated with it. Thereafter, continental drift over a further 150M years forms more or less what we see today, with some fine tuning over the last 50M years.

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Message 1111107 - Posted: 29 May 2011, 17:16:52 UTC - in response to Message 1105112.

Well what bothers me is the knowledge that in Egypt is a crypt, circa 2500bc, like 4511 years ago, that has a lintel over the door with a number of carvings on it. One is a side on view of a helicopter. Who had choppers in the years around, or before, 2500bc?
Who made the machined cube of steel dug out of a coal seam. Was Soddam and Gomorra the result of atomic explosions. What were Indian Varamas, what kind of flying machines were they.
Maybe there is crustal shift and those things were from the last people to inhabit this rock, 40,000 years ago. If crustal shift is true, when is the next shift of Antartica and where will it end up. Like 2000nm where?
The USA Space program took a lot of funny photos of flying objects. Who flew those things. Lt Shamus O'Farrel RAN in 1953 met a pair of funny objects flying between Goulbourn and Nowra in NSW Australia, picked up on RADAR, since O'Farrel was flying a Fairy Sea Fury fighter aircraft and the radar reported that they, the objects, left the scene at 1400mph, at a time in our history when supersonic was 750mph+. O'Farrel was on 808 Squadron, like me, at the time. He reckoned they were real. And the film from the gun camera is still a secret.
I'm too old to worry about what is going to happen in our future, I've had a heap of fun in my past, but I'll bet there are some surprises to come.
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Message 1111686 - Posted: 31 May 2011, 9:43:16 UTC - in response to Message 1105112.
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Nice graphics...now i wonder what the continents would look like after they crash into each other again. And when they do, would life on earth cease to exist? I read somewhere (for the life of me i do not recall where), that when this does happen, life on earth would die. Though I do not believe that for a single second. This planet has been through hell and back and I doubt the continents crashing together again would end life on earth.

I believe continental drift has happened more than this one time on our planet. So lets say (aliens, Atlantis or whatever you want to call it) did exist on earth prior to the continental drift we know of today, would the drift be enough to basically wipe out any evidence of their civilizations?
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Message 1111719 - Posted: 31 May 2011, 12:43:24 UTC

Well if the presumed continental drift carries on, then perhaps North & South Ametica will bump into Asia Australia, and we'll start all over again .....

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Message 1111755 - Posted: 31 May 2011, 14:25:25 UTC

Stephen Hawking once said all the continents will gather at the South pole in about a billion years.
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Message 1111767 - Posted: 31 May 2011, 15:36:19 UTC - in response to Message 1111719.

Here is a possible explanantion about Sodom and Gomorra.



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Message 1111894 - Posted: 1 Jun 2011, 3:01:36 UTC - in response to Message 1111767.

Here is a possible explanantion about Sodom and Gomorra.




Good read. I shall also watch their video segment in the next few days.
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Message 1112382 - Posted: 2 Jun 2011, 16:53:03 UTC

Well well what a read. The Ark story and the Ark of the Covenant are a good read. Large pinch of salt advised though!

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Message 1113611 - Posted: 5 Jun 2011, 21:20:21 UTC - in response to Message 1105112.

And going back further, there was only one big 'continent', which has been in a constant move and split up, to, as we know it now.


The Super Continent Pangaea broke up into two smaller Continents, the Laurasia in the Northern Hemisphere and the Gondwana or Gondwanaland in the Southern Hemisphere.

The first breakup happened over just 25M years, and there could well have been some vicious earthquakes associated with it. Thereafter, continental drift over a further 150M years forms more or less what we see today, with some fine tuning over the last 50M years.



As the word says, the puzzle always fall in one place{again) ;)

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Message 1113990 - Posted: 6 Jun 2011, 17:52:56 UTC

What I thought was interesting that Madagascar for all of it's history was an island. No Wonder 80% of its plant and animal species are found nowhere else in the world.

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Message 1116232 - Posted: 12 Jun 2011, 12:59:39 UTC - in response to Message 988575.

Please give me an evidence for a limited life span of a technological intelligence, like I read it all the time.

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Message 1116486 - Posted: 13 Jun 2011, 1:27:45 UTC - in response to Message 1116232.

Please give me an evidence for a limited life span of a technological intelligence, like I read it all the time.


Technological I'll think this, God gave us all the wisdom
But the wisdom of heaven is far more a head of us and fast
like a lightball. Prove is that God made the Earth and heavens.
When you read Ezekiël. You can read that Ezekiël was in a Ufo.
And saw the ocean like a small pool. The Bible is not only
Holy, but tell us more about the universe, as Jesus said my kingdom
is not from the earth, then it must be the universe and heavens
we exploid and see. So there must be something we not even see yet.
True is, Seti@Home, see it someday apear.


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Message 1118337 - Posted: 17 Jun 2011, 18:01:19 UTC

I like to think that just maybe, out there in a very big science lab is a bloke looking into a test tube in which is a very slow moving, expanding, little blob of light. He is waiting for the expansion of that light to hit the sides of the test tube. He doesn't know of course, that, that little blob of light is our big bang. His micro seconds are our thousands of light years in time. Maybe there is also another guy in another lab watching his test tube to find out when his blob of light is going to hit the test tube. And his blob is two big bangs. etc,etc, etc forever.
Or maybe there are other dimensions and other people and many other universes.
If there was a God, any being likened to a God who had any sort of brain at all, we would have one well organised and controlled society.That would be common sense wouldn't it?
If "he" was, there would be just one belief among all of the people, he would ensure that there was only one, and there would be no wars, violence and crass stupidity.Which are rampant in our socities.
But it seems there probably isn't a God or anything that might be a God or Gods, because no God would allow that to happen. Men would, could and do, continually. Ergo no Gods just men. I've had 81 years to be convinced and its yet to happen.
Ezekiel did see a space craft etc, and that Book of the Old Testament was researched by a NASA scientist and he came up with a design that would be a space craft, if we could power it, which we cannot. Even after all that time, only God knows how many years have passed since the days of Ezekiel. It's also in a 19th century book. VBG.
There are many examples of other lives on this planet, and things that seem to mean that we are simply repeating past lives of other people.
In Egypt there is a Crypt, opened up in 1880 sometime, and over the doorway of this 4500 year old hole in the ground, is a carved stone lintel, on which, among other carvings, is a side on view of a Helicopter, which was invented by us in 1904 or 5 or so. Who had choppers 4500 years ago.
I know its silly but www.crystalinks.com is worth a read.
Here in Australia at Lake Mungo, or what was Lake Mungo, it dried up 20,000 years ago, there are the bones of men, and women from 60,000 years ago. Their DNA is extinct, it's not ours, and they are similar to us in features and skeletal structure. There are not just one or two either.
And that's in a place which was first???? settled 40,000 years ago.
Question is, how long is our lot going to survive now that the planets population of Homo Sapiens is increasing at 2 per second, from a population of 6.6 billion.
Ever thought that we might have enough people on this planet that we could emulate ants.
Maybe Global Warming and Co2 are very minor problems, but that current birth rate, is going to be hard to stop, as is the movement of people in the years to come, if it continues.
Steven Hawkins is well worth listening to.
VBG
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