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Message 1402330 - Posted: 12 Aug 2013, 21:05:39 UTC - in response to Message 1402319.

... there will be more economic advantage for crooks to find them, so they will.

Note the real problem for ALL operating systems and applications as Marketing pushes everyone to go "Cloudy":

Note the classic use of a strawman to deflect from the point being raised for which the speaker can provide no answer.

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Message 1402765 - Posted: 13 Aug 2013, 21:22:01 UTC
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Here's a little fun with version numbers and year numbers:


Torvalds frustrated at missing simultaneous release

Linux 3.11 rc 5 emerges on an important day

Linus Torvalds has issued release candidate five for Linux 3.11, but is a little upset with the fact the final release missed a serendipitous anniversary.

The date in question is August 11th, 1993, as it was on that day that Windows 3.11 emerged blinking and howling into the world.

Torvalds liked the idea that Linux 3.11 would debut on that day, but has written “Sadly, the numerology doesn't quite work out, and while releasing the final 3.11 today would be a lovely coincidence (Windows 3.11 was released twenty years ago today), it is not to be.”...




So, all a good giggle on version numbers and dates and there's a fun-fest to be had in the comments. More than enough material there for even the most lack-luster of trolls. For those who are actually interested in the IT world, there are some rather good comments also.


One of the 'fun' comments is:

Linux for Workgroups

The numerology is correct due to MS leaving all the "alpha_rc_0.00.0.00.-4" stuff off the end and selling it anyway.


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Message 1403063 - Posted: 14 Aug 2013, 12:57:01 UTC
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Another auspicious anniversary:



No distro diva drama here: Penguinista favourite Debian turns 20

Today Debian marks a milestone not many pieces of software last long enough to see: its 20-year anniversary.

Debian has become the foundation of dozens of other Linux distros. It’s the basis of all manner of embedded systems – which means many of the uninitiated use it without knowing – and it boasts a customers list spanning governments and giant globo-corps alike. ...

... What's even more remarkable about Debian is that the project behind it continues to churn out great, reliable software and that Debian remains - after all these years - true to the vision (and accompanying manifesto) that accompanied its birth.

The Debian Project was founded by Ian Murdock and officially brought to life on 16 August, 1993. With the backing of the Free Software Foundation's GNU project, Murdock set out to create what he called "a distribution that lives up to the Linux name". Murdock's vision for Debian was to "carefully and conscientiously put together" a distribution that "will be maintained and supported with similar care"...





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Message 1403451 - Posted: 15 Aug 2013, 14:36:47 UTC
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Double-dose of security flaw goodness:

http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/08/google-confirms-critical-android-crypto-flaw-used-in-5700-bitcoin-heist/

"Dan Goodin @ ArsTechnica.com" wrote:
Google developers have confirmed a cryptographic vulnerability in the Android operating system that researchers say could generate serious security glitches on hundreds of thousands of end user apps, many of them used to make Bitcoin transactions.

This weakness in Android's Java Cryptography Architecture is the root cause of a Bitcoin transaction that reportedly was exploited to pilfer about $5,720 worth of bitcoins out of a digital wallet last week. The disclosure, included in a blog post published Wednesday by Google security engineer Alex Klyubin, was the first official confirmation of the Android vulnerability since Ars and others reported the incident last weekend. Klyubin warned that other apps might also be compromised unless developers change the way they access so-called PRNGs, short for pseudo random number generators.


And this goodie:

http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/08/once-the-domain-of-windows-xp-web-servers-are-hackers-target-of-choice/

"Dan Goodin @ ArsTechnica.com" wrote:
In a pattern that has played out repeatedly over the past year or two, researchers in the past two days have reported a string of ongoing attacks that take control of Web servers by exploiting critical vulnerabilities in Apache software, Joomla, and other applications used to deliver content and programs online.

The vulnerabilities in both the Apache Struts framework and the Joomla content management system have been fixed recently, but attackers continue to exploit the flaws on servers that have yet to install the updates, according to research published in the past two days. The attacks can have severe consequences for the websites that use the older versions, since the exploits make it possible to execute malicious code that can pilfer confidential customer data, mount malware attacks on visitors, and install applications that give attackers persistent backdoor access to some of a server's most sensitive resources.

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In some respects, Web server applications are to 2013 what Windows XP was to 2005—complex and full-featured enough that critical vulnerabilities are plentiful and in such wide use that some percentage of its user base is sure to make crucial mistakes. Fortunately, Microsoft's secure development lifecycle program has gone a long way to resolving the Windows security crisis that once endangered large swaths of the Internet. It's not clear how the current campaign against Web servers will play out, but it wouldn't be surprising if it got worse before it got better.



All some very serious stuff, and all only in our only IT world.

IT is what IT is.

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Message 1403474 - Posted: 15 Aug 2013, 15:41:38 UTC - in response to Message 1403451.
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In some respects, Web server applications are to 2013 what Windows XP was to 2005—complex and full-featured enough that critical vulnerabilities are plentiful and in such wide use that some percentage of its user base is sure to make crucial mistakes. Fortunately, Microsoft's secure development lifecycle program has gone a long way to resolving the Windows security crisis that once endangered large swaths of the Internet. It's not clear how the current campaign against Web servers will play out, but it wouldn't be surprising if it got worse before it got better.



All some very serious stuff, and all only in our only IT world.

IT is what IT is.

Until the *nix world realizes its users are humans, just like XP users are humans and forces security upgrades to be installed the situation will simply get worse and worse. I wonder how soon before we start seeing lawsuits because some company didn't upgrade and some random browser of their website, not necessarily even a customer, figures out that their site is the one that stole their data and make that website's owner pay pay pay? Perhaps then the *nix world, er Linus Torvalds, will take security seriously and not try to hide and obscure problems.
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Message 1404106 - Posted: 17 Aug 2013, 2:18:16 UTC - in response to Message 1403451.
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... In some respects, Web server applications are to 2013 what Windows XP was to 2005—complex and full-featured enough that critical vulnerabilities are plentiful and in such wide use that some percentage of its user base is sure to make crucial mistakes. Fortunately, Microsoft's secure development lifecycle program has gone a long way to resolving the Windows security crisis that once endangered large swaths of the Internet. It's not clear how the current campaign against Web servers will play out, but it wouldn't be surprising if it got worse before it got better.



All some very serious stuff, and all only in our only IT world.

Agreed on that one and also that is one which is likely to get worse as the general blind rush develops to offer an ever more 'rich' "cloud" experience via your web browser, regardless of how flawed or vulnerable...

Much better would be to dumb down the browser and instead just have a simple dumb remote display device...

Or continue with the 'old style cloud' which I've been supporting for over a decade now where you use whatever dedicated protocols and applications for the particular task. All well established, well proven, and robust and reliable...


IT is what IT is.

That's only for if you are really happy for what you get forced-fed.


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Message 1404110 - Posted: 17 Aug 2013, 2:35:21 UTC

A few recent snippets:


Microsoft DMCA takedown requests targeting OpenOffice

... among the hundreds of thousands of sites Microsoft has recently asked Google not to index are requests to remove references to sites that in no way infringe Microsoft's rights but instead mention the the free OpenOffice suite. ...

... Microsoft [is] probably doing the world a favour by asking Google not to index such scams, but the many requests to stop indexing harmless links or legitimate links to torrents of Open Office (which can of course be distributed freely) are worrisome. Microsoft insists it's trying to make sure its takedown requests are more accurate in future...



Ubuntu sets crowdfund pledge record for Edge smartphone

A crowdfunding campaign for the Ubuntu Edge smartphone has set a record for raising more money in pledges than any other such venture.

The London-based developer, Canonical, has generated $10,288,472 (about £6.6m) in pledges... But with six days of its campaign left the company is far from reaching its funding goal of $32m...



Linux Users Have Luxury of Choosing from Diverse Desktop Options

The open-source Linux operating system is widely deployed on enterprise server infrastructure, but it also has a place on the desktop, as well. ... the reality is that there is no single such entity as THE Linux Desktop. The Linux desktop ecosystem is diverse, with multiple options and choices to suit different user needs and user preferences...


Meet The Man Who Minds The Linux Kernel

Linus Torvalds creates the Linux kernel, but Greg Kroah-Hartman maintains it...

... As to why and how the Linux 3.10 kernel was chosen as the next long-term release, Kroah-Hartman explained to eWEEK that he spent a lot of time talking with many companies about their product plans for the year. Linux is pervasive in consumer electronics as well as in server and mobile operating system infrastructures. Kroah-Hartman said he talked to companies about what kernels they wanted to use based on what features they contained, and their development cycles.

“The 3.10 kernel ended up being the best fit for the largest number of different companies...



A Year of Linux Desktop At Westcliff High School

... Now, a year on, he got in touch again to let us know how he and the students find life in a world without Windows." And they didn't even meet much resistance: "Younger students accept it as normal. Older students can be a little less flexible. There are still a few that are of the view that I can get rid of Microsoft Word when I can pry it from them. Staff are the same (although it is surprisingly not age-related)...



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Message 1404251 - Posted: 17 Aug 2013, 9:38:53 UTC
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Until the *nix world realizes its users are humans,

But they aren't, they are geeks, a sub-set of us that keep the anorak clothing industry in business!

just like XP users are humans

You're having a laugh now!

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Message 1404336 - Posted: 17 Aug 2013, 17:11:37 UTC - in response to Message 1404251.
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Until the *nix world realizes its users are humans,

But they aren't, they are geeks, a sub-set of us that keep the anorak clothing industry in business!

Are you sure that everybody with an android phone is an anorak wearing geek? How about the strategists in the majority of the largest enterprises? If you mean users of a Linux desktop, then your characterization may be a little closer to the truth, though it wasn't so long ago that anybody who owned a home computer of any sort was labeled in that fashion.

just like XP users are humans

You're having a laugh now!

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Message 1404344 - Posted: 17 Aug 2013, 17:26:29 UTC
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Are you sure that everybody with an android phone is an anorak wearing geek?

Pretty much, yes.

just like XP users are humans
You're having a laugh now!

How would you describe them?

Ancient MS sheeple. What was wrong with OS2?

And as I still run an XP box I suppose I had better say Baaaaa .....

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Message 1404351 - Posted: 17 Aug 2013, 17:44:59 UTC - in response to Message 1404344.

Are you sure that everybody with an android phone is an anorak wearing geek?

Pretty much, yes.


Really? That's a lot of anorak wearing geeks.

Smartphones accounted for 51.8 percent of mobile phone sales in the second quarter of 2013, resulting in smartphone sales surpassing feature phone sales for the first time,” said Anshul Gupta, principal research analyst at Gartner. Asia/Pacific, Latin America and Eastern Europe exhibited the highest smartphone growth rates of 74.1 percent, 55.7 percent and 31.6 percent respectively, as smartphone sales grew in all regions.

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Message 1404388 - Posted: 17 Aug 2013, 18:27:31 UTC

Really? That's a lot of anorak wearing geeks.


Sadly yes, that is the problem.

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Message 1404407 - Posted: 17 Aug 2013, 19:12:04 UTC - in response to Message 1404388.

Really? That's a lot of anorak wearing geeks.


Sadly yes, that is the problem.


Perhaps the problem is that some will not give up on an outdated stereotype despite the contrary evidence ...
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Message 1406003 - Posted: 21 Aug 2013, 15:27:50 UTC - in response to Message 1402330.

It's Linux. Its Secure. Lots of eyeballs. Doesn't have any of the holes Windows has...

Yet another example ...
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/the-exchange/hackers-cracking-online-bank-security-measures-112457686.html

Banks have started to send one-time codes via SMS text messages to customers to use in addition to passwords for logging in to their accounts. So hackers have devised insidious software to steal the texted codes in real time.

Researchers ... even found a pair of new malware programs that afflict users of Google’s Android phones by replacing official bank apps with hacked replacements. Victims think they’re logging in to their accounts legitimately, but the apps send all the info -- including the SMS codes -- back to the criminals.



... there will be more economic advantage for crooks to find them, so they will.

Note the real problem for ALL operating systems and applications as Marketing pushes everyone to go "Cloudy":

Note the classic use of a strawman to deflect from the point being raised for which the speaker can provide no answer.

Where there is money, there is a security hole waiting to be exploited ...

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Message 1406428 - Posted: 22 Aug 2013, 12:47:23 UTC - in response to Message 1406003.
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It's Linux. Its Secure. Lots of eyeballs. Doesn't have [anything like] the holes Windows has...

You said it. Just corrected the absolutism you like so much for trashing.

Yet another example ... [Banking security vulnerability trojan]
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/the-exchange/hackers-cracking-online-bank-security-measures-112457686.html...

As already repeatedly explained or described: ANY system is vulnerable to malware that is deliberately installed. Sorry, you can't blame the whole world of IT on any one system.

There is still the huge difference that Linux and prominent FLOSS projects are well implemented and with good security. That in no way fits with your absolutism of controlling the entire world.

Note also that you still do not see Microsoft style viruses and malware spreading without user intervention...

As for the apps downloads, you can bet the mainstream sites will quickly improve their vetting of apps... As for the banks, they are a scary story all to themselves...


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Message 1407367 - Posted: 24 Aug 2013, 17:35:52 UTC - in response to Message 1406428.
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... Note also that you still do not see Microsoft style viruses and malware spreading without user intervention...

For a rather unwholesome example of "no user intervention" for Windows 8, see: Message 1407346



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Message 1407368 - Posted: 24 Aug 2013, 17:40:12 UTC

Quite a splash even if the idea didn't quite float this time round:


Ubuntu Edge crowdsauce cash stash comes up short

Canonical’s Ubuntu Edge crowd-funded smartphone will remain a Shuttleworthian dream, having failed to hit its $32m funding target.

The phone raised $12.8m ahead of today's deadline on the Indiegogo site, less than half the figure stated necessary to fund production of 40,000 units when the campaign started on 23 July...

... The Edge set a record in raising "crowdfunds", beating current record holder the Pebble smartwatch, which sourced $10m on Kickstarter.

Silber said Mark Shuttleworth's company will continue working with industry partners to bring smartphones to market early next year.

The Ubuntu Edge was to have been a hybrid device, running Android as a smartphone but booting to Ubuntu and becoming a Linux PC when docked with monitor and keyboard. ...



Ubuntu Edge Linux mobe: 'Made you look,' crows Shuttleworth

Canonical's attempt to raise £20.5m ($32m) to create a Ubuntu Linux smartphone wasn't the failure it appeared to be: despite only managing two fifths of its fundraising target by its own deadline, the Edge handset project was a hugely successful advertisement for the Ubuntu distribution.

... even if the devices he promises to launch in 2014 won't have the hybrid capabilities of the Edge.

"While we passionately wanted to build the Edge to showcase Ubuntu on phones, the support and attention it received will still be a huge boost as other Ubuntu phones start to arrive in 2014," he and his team wrote...



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Message 1408404 - Posted: 27 Aug 2013, 18:30:55 UTC
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For a bit of a round-up to round off this thread:


The Most Exciting Linux 3.11 Kernel Features

With the Linux 3.11 kernel due to be released in the coming weeks, here's an overview of the most exciting changes for this next major Linux kernel update...


What Linux really needs is more fun

... The cross-section of users who make up the bulk of the PC audience aren't business users or administrators. We're talking about people who think a PC is worthless unless it can get online and connect to social networking sites, check email, shop, and other things that all average users do. And that's precisely why Linux needs more fun.

That's right, I said it. Fun! For over a decade, I've been using Linux, and I've seen the majority of the enlightened users take the whole of the platform way too seriously...



Oculus Rift Is Easy To Setup On Linux

... Richard Jones of Red Hat has blogged about his first experiences with an Oculus Rift on Linux: it's basically plug-and-play.

When connecting the Oculus Rift head-mounted display to Linux, it appears as a 1280 x 800 secondary display that can be controlled via Linux...

... Valve and Unigine Corp are already very interested and have been supporting this intriguing VR product.



X.Org Foundation Loses Its 501(c)(3) Status

... The foundation only officially obtained 501(c)(3) status with the US government in 2012 after years of paper wrangling and delayed work. The foundation really didn't even get around to taking advantage of its non-profit status with no major fundraising drivers or soliciting for donations...

... the board is now thinking about having the X.Org Foundation join an umbrella organization like the SPI, the Apache Foundation, or other free-software-focused organizations for riding some benefits like a non-profit status while having to deal less in paperwork and other managerial matters.



Did Linux drive supers, and can it drive corporate data centers?

... the Linux operating system got its big break in high performance computing. There is a symbiotic relationship between Linux and HPC that seems natural and normal today, and the Linux Foundation, which is the steward of the Linux kernel and other important open source projects – and, importantly, the place where Linus Torvalds, the creator of Linux, gets his paycheck – thinks that Linux was more than a phenomenon on HPC iron. The organization goes so far as to say that Linux helped spawn the massive expansion in supercomputing capacity...


Who's Afraid of Linux Malware?

As desktop Linux's popularity grows, so, too, do concerns about viruses and malware. "Malware will come to target consumers on Linux," said blogger Chris Travers. "When it does, we will need to address the challenges it poses. Everything from code management to repository management will need to evolve to meet such a threat, but it will. The software evolves. The culture evolves. That is life."...

... "I've been using GNU/Linux for more than a decade and never saw any malware on it while I have seen hundreds of infections on a single PC running that other OS," blogger Robert Pogson agreed. "Malware does exist, but GNU/Linux has so many layers of defense that unless a repository distributes it, the malware may not even run on a GNU/Linux system.

"There are all kinds of checks against that happening unless someone sneaks it into the source code," he explained. "With the open development process of FLOSS, that is very unlikely to happen."...

... Meanwhile, "there will be people that make the claim that Linux is becoming more of a target because it's becoming more popular," Stone added. "I say bunk to that too. People that make that claim ignore the fact that Linux is extremely prevalent in every market it's a member of."

Linux may not yet be crushing its competition on the desktop, but "who thinks that there's no reason to attack the operating system that runs the majority of the world's websites, a massive chunk of the Internet, over 90 percent of the supercomputers out there and now a vast majority of the smartphones sold in the world?

"The Stock Exchanges in New York, London and Tokyo all run on Linux," he pointed out. "No reason to attack that? Please."...



Run Windows apps on both OS X & Linux with CrossOver 12.5

... CrossOver is based on the open-source project Wine, an implementation of the Windows application programming interface (API) on top of the Unix/Linux operating system family. For each application, CrossOver/Wine creates a small Windows virtual machine just for that program.

You actually don't need CrossOver to run Windows applications on Linux or a Mac. You can do it with Wine alone -- if you know precisely what you're doing. What CrossOver gives you is easy, automated installation of Windows applications, and technical support. And in this latest version, the CrossOver interface has been improved so it's easier than ever to install and manage Windows applications...



Linux Popularity Rises as Enterprises Conquer 'Irrational Fears' Claims SUSE

UK businesses have conquered their "irrational fears" of Linux and the majority now depend on it for some part of their mainstream business applications...

... "The relevant question today is not why or when you should be using Linux, it's where you should be using Linux. Enterprises that are not actively considering Linux as the foundation of their data centre transformation or modernisation initiatives are in danger of being left behind financially and technologically,"...




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Message 1408405 - Posted: 27 Aug 2013, 18:33:20 UTC
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So what has Linux done for us?

For a good summary, see:

22 Years Later, The Linux And Open Source "Cancer" Is Wonderfully Benign

Twenty-two years ago Linux was born as a "(free) operating system" that founder Linus Torvalds was quick to downplay as "just a hobby" that wouldn't "be big and professional." My, but how times have changed. So much so that Linux now dominates mobile (Android), servers and cloud. No wonder that Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer derided Linux in 2001 as a "cancer" that "attaches itself... to everything it touches."

He was right. At least, as it relates to Linux's effect on Microsoft.

Earlier this week Torvalds celebrated the 22nd birthday of Linux by cheekily calling Linux "just a hobby, even if it's big and professional" now in a way he never envisaged back in 1991. To help gauge just how far we've come since then...



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