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Pappa Send message Joined: 9 Jan 00 Posts: 2562 Credit: 12,301,681 RAC: 0 |
As everyone is waiting for the Workunit storage server to get healthy again. I have made the Thread sticky so that everyone Might be able to see. Quote from the Main Page Scheduled Power Outage - update We are now recovering from a planned power outage, during which all services were off line. The workunit storage machine is undergoing a RAID resync and no new workunits will be generated until this has finished. The outage was for power upgrades on campus, and a similar outage will happen again this upcoming Sunday (01/03/2010) at 12 noon (Pacific time). 29 Dec 2009 4:26:16 UTC What this means you we be getting messages in the Boinc > Messages Tab that state: 12/29/2009 2:49:01 PM SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks 12/29/2009 2:49:01 PM SETI@home Message from server: (Project has no jobs available) We Wait Regards Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project. |
Pappa Send message Joined: 9 Jan 00 Posts: 2562 Credit: 12,301,681 RAC: 0 |
As it has been noted, the "resync" is completed and we are now in the recovery part. All things said and done, it is better it you just let Boinc do its thing. I noticed that my only cold GPU (which is doing only Seti Main and Lunatics offline testing) managed to get a Workunit all by itself. If the recovery is "typical" somewhere before/around midnight PST your machines will have work. That is based on a normal outages takes about 3 hours. An extended outage takes up to 6 hours. The outlier would be the newer versions of Boinc 6.10.xx which with the Project Backoff might take a bit longer to request work. So now we get into the "http errors" as the servers are too busy to process your connection request. Sometimes I think I have been watching this too long. Regards Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project. |
jstonge123 Send message Joined: 27 Sep 99 Posts: 8 Credit: 908,512 RAC: 3 |
Is it possiable once the sytem recovers too download extra workunits to ride through the next outage? Thanks for the update |
Luke Send message Joined: 31 Dec 06 Posts: 2546 Credit: 817,560 RAC: 0 |
Is it possiable once the sytem recovers too download extra workunits to ride through the next outage? Yes it is. Go into Your Account > Computing Preferences > Network Usage > Edit Preferences > and change "Maintain enough work for an additional x days" (where x equals how many days of workunits you have stockpiled) to a number around 2-4. No more than 5. That oughta' be enough. Basically, this means, you should have enough work to keep you going for x days before you run out, if the servers are down. - Luke. |
Pappa Send message Joined: 9 Jan 00 Posts: 2562 Credit: 12,301,681 RAC: 0 |
Is it possiable once the sytem recovers too download extra workunits to ride through the next outage? Yes, it is possible. In your Account settings Computing preferences and look for these items. Computer is connected to the Internet about every (Leave blank or 0 if always connected. My setting is 0.1 days (or try to connect every 2.5 hours) The next one is Maintain enough work for an additional My setting is 1 day. This is the one if you increase it to 2 days then you should be fine for the next outage. The "caution" is that when you do that Boinc may have issues for a while. There are times with the type of Workunits that you get you could end up in a nasty situation. The most I would ever recommend is 3 days. Yes, there are reasons I am set to only 1 day. -9 Workunits and the Quota could make things very nasty. Then you could spend time trying to recover. Regards Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project. |
Odysseus Send message Joined: 26 Jul 99 Posts: 1808 Credit: 6,701,347 RAC: 6 |
Is it possiable once the sytem recovers too download extra workunits to ride through the next outage? Yes: under Computing preferences on your Account page, edit the “Maintain enough work for an additional __ days†entry in the Network usage section. P.S. Three answers for the price of one! |
perryjay Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3377 Credit: 20,676,751 RAC: 0 |
Don't forget to check in your local preferences in your BOINC Manager under advanced settings too. I didn't and ran out of work. I had set my account page to 3 days but local prefs were only set to 2. PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC |
champ Send message Joined: 12 Mar 03 Posts: 3642 Credit: 1,489,147 RAC: 0 |
Don't forget to check in your local preferences in your BOINC Manager under advanced settings too. I didn't and ran out of work. I had set my account page to 3 days but local prefs were only set to 2. I hope, three days are enough. |
Cliff Harding Send message Joined: 18 Aug 99 Posts: 1432 Credit: 110,967,840 RAC: 67 |
I have had my BOINC computing preferences set to 10 days since day one and never had a problem. In doing this I never have to worry about local preferences. The scheduler has always done a fantastic job and I have only ran out of work only once in ten years. Every once in a while I will get a SETI WU that will go to high priority, although it happens more with one of my other projects. I don't buy computers, I build them!! |
perryjay Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3377 Credit: 20,676,751 RAC: 0 |
Champ, with it only 2 days I ran out just before they started to come back up. If I had had 3 days I would have carried over to the end and been just fine. My machine is a little slow and I like to get my results back in as fast as I can. I hate to make my wingmen wait on me. :-) PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC |
Sutaru Tsureku Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5 |
I have 3 day WU cache on both machines. Both had ~ 12 hours before idle, then SETI@home came up and the machines could DL new WUs. |
Pooh Bear 27 Send message Joined: 14 Jul 03 Posts: 3224 Credit: 4,603,826 RAC: 0 |
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champ Send message Joined: 12 Mar 03 Posts: 3642 Credit: 1,489,147 RAC: 0 |
I do multiple projects, so I never run out of work. I am doing the same, but my second project (Rosetta) is running dry as well. :-( |
Bill Walker Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 3868 Credit: 2,697,267 RAC: 0 |
I do multiple projects, so I never run out of work. Try Milky Way. It has its ups and downs, but when it is up it is UP. It will grab all your CPUs for a few days, and then everything else will go High Priority for a few days. Also, I find the science behind it very interesting, and very well explained on their home page. Note to Mods: of course, I'm saying run this AS WELL AS Seti. |
arkayn Send message Joined: 14 May 99 Posts: 4438 Credit: 55,006,323 RAC: 0 |
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Pappa Send message Joined: 9 Jan 00 Posts: 2562 Credit: 12,301,681 RAC: 0 |
At this posting it is about 18 Hours (local time) until Power Outage Shutdown, for the next power outage. The graphs showed other than a delay getting everything running, Recovery took ~18 hours. So if you have not set your "computing preferences" to obtain 2 days work. Or do not have Backup Projects... Now is the time to consider that. "We" know that going from "Cold Iron" to fuctioning Seti Seti Servers is not easy and takes time. Regards Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project. |
Jim H Send message Joined: 28 Nov 06 Posts: 12 Credit: 2,186,439 RAC: 0 |
Well now, Since Sunday last, I have been unable to upload any "Completes Tasks". "Messages": 1/5/2010 2:53:30 PM SETI@home update requested by user 1/5/2010 2:53:32 PM SETI@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. 1/5/2010 2:53:32 PM SETI@home Not reporting or requesting tasks 1/5/2010 2:53:37 PM SETI@home Scheduler request completed Close to 40 "Transfers" still reading: 1/5/2010 2:53:52 PM SETI@home Temporarily failed upload of 10fe07ab.13730.18477.6.10.116_0_0: HTTP error 1/5/2010 2:53:52 PM SETI@home Backing off 1 min 0 sec on upload of 10fe07ab.13730.18477.6.10.116_0_0 Final Msg.: 1/5/2010 2:59:20 PM Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down. Anyone have any idea when things will get sorted out? Jim Clear Skies to all amateur Astronomers out there... |
Pappa Send message Joined: 9 Jan 00 Posts: 2562 Credit: 12,301,681 RAC: 0 |
While nothing has been stated, there were two clogs and both ahve been released. Uploads will be iffy for a while, as Downloads are happening. All we can do is let Boinc and the Seti Servers do their Job. Thank You for Your Patience Regards Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project. |
JimHilty2 Send message Joined: 30 Apr 03 Posts: 75 Credit: 7,199,464 RAC: 0 |
Looking good from here. Uploads and downloads all working and even secondary server back so we can see results- Woo Hoo lol Jim |
Pappa Send message Joined: 9 Jan 00 Posts: 2562 Credit: 12,301,681 RAC: 0 |
A quick look at Cricket, Uploads are over 20meg/sec Downloads as fast as they can be split. Recovery is well underway (Matt threw a few images on the "barby"). Reminder: Depending on how old a Boinc Version You are using... YOU May need to safely shutdown Boinc and Restart it as it loses track of DNS (and other things during an extended outage). Then uploads will continue to fail and you will get no new work. Depending on the number of uploads you have you need to get "under" a certain threshold, then Seti will automatically request new work. Until it reaches that point, it does not matter how many time you "manually" press Update. WE have been down this road before. Regards Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project. |
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