Why is your thinking so provincial? :) Yes, of course we need to preserve the ecosystem as much as possible!!!

Simple, 5 out of 6 humans need to be culled to keep the flock in good health. That is considerably more than a Roman decimation. Once done, the rest of it takes care of itself.

I was also using some irony to point out that the choices that are espoused are never as simple as the political talking points. There are trade offs and they are sometimes significant. Home solar being one. Do you cut down the trees around buildings so their roof's can get shade free sun access? Does that hurt more than it helps? Does making solar cells harm the environment more with the pollution from chip manufacturing than the energy they generate over their generating lifetime? The numbers behind these things have huge error bars. And people want to make policy based on them. R&D is needed before we make the problem worse when we try and fix it.

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If the "scientists" who espouse this BS actually believe it, why don't they act like it? Seems they think the draconian legislation they want enacted only applies to the "little people".

PASADENA, Calif. -- Will 2010 be the warmest year on record? How do the recent U.S. "Snowmageddon" winter storms and record low temperatures in Europe fit into the bigger picture of long-term global warming? NASA has launched a new Web page to help people better understand the causes and effects of Earth's changing climate.

The new "A Warming World" page hosts a series of new articles, videos, data visualizations, space-based imagery and interactive visuals that provide unique NASA perspectives on this topic of global importance.

The page includes feature articles that explore the recent Arctic winter weather that has gripped the United States, Europe and Asia, and how El Nino and other longer-term ocean-atmosphere phenomena may affect global temperatures this year and in the future. A new video, "Piecing Together the Temperature Puzzle," illustrates how NASA satellites monitor climate change and help scientists better understand how our complex planet works.

The new Web page is available on NASA's Global Climate Change Web site at: http://climate.nasa.gov/warmingworld...

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whats sad is people are still confusing weather with climate. sure the weather is cold today in a few places. Its also much warmer in others which negates any actual cold weather effects felt currently.

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In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmselect/cmsctech/memo/climatedata/uc3902.htm

As the IoP makes clear, the UEA CRU and its many partners in the AGW movement committed intellectual and scientific fraud — and their conclusions should be viewed as worthless.

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— and their conclusions should be viewed as worthless.

No problem, the world's climatologists do not need any data from The University of East Anglia; it changes nothing--
the anti-science Luddite flat-earther propagandists with their insidious disinformation campaign are engaging in crimes against humanity...

CLIMATE<>WEATHER

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— and their conclusions should be viewed as worthless.

[...]
the anti-science Luddite flat-earther propagandists with their insidious disinformation campaign are engaging in crimes against humanity...

CLIMATE<>WEATHER

The title of worst of the anti-science anti-world Luddites perhaps goes to the Canadians where their government is willing to sacrifice everything to keep themselves in power...


The Drowning of the Ice Babies

There are two extremely frustrating issues that I am very much at odds with my government in Canada. ...

Of course there are always those who can rationalize every tragedy in nature. As one Newfoundlander said to me a few years ago when I spoke of the possibility of global warming causing diminished ice conditions that would create a threat to the survival of the harp seal as a species. He took a sip of his beer and gave me that fisherman’s know it all look and said, “well b’ye, we may as well kill ‘em all off befores they runs out of ice.”


Some very good comments there from very down to earth people that are very much there on the ground/ice/sea.


Hopefully, there are enough people that can see further than the end of their next beer to do something positive and useful...

Regards,
Martin

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Gulf Coast braces for an oily mess.

And people call wind energy dirty...

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- Luke.

Following on from Copenhagen:

World must move on from Copenhagen summit, says EU's climate chief

The world must move on from the blame game following the Copenhagen summit and work towards progress at climate meetings in Mexico and South Africa, said the European commissioner for climate action, Connie Hedegaard.

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"Who would three or four years back would have believed me if I said we had most severe economic crisis in a generation or more, yet at the same time we managed to get climate change on top of leaders' agendas? And not only that but for the first time in international negotiations, to have the United States and four emerging economies accepting a 2C target and sharing responsibility for achieving it."


Timely hope yet?

Regards,
Martin

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