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Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
I remember the original story and it was a neighbor's property he so eagerly grabbed his gun to go out and protect. I suppose in your rush to justify street justice and the Ted Nugent version of America, you may have missed some details yourself. I do not fight fascists because I think I can win. I fight them because they are fascists. Chris Hedges A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30674 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
This guy shot a kid down in the street in a situation that did not involve his own property or any danger to his family. That's easy since the source was posted in a different thread here and still online: http://www.mpnnow.com/news/x631609676/Defense-calls-for-dismissal-of-Greece-manslaughter-case Scott and his significant other, Tracy Allen, claim in court papers they heard a voice in the driveway of their home at 58 Baneberry Way between 3 and 3:30 a.m. Its possible that some reporter got it wrong. |
Niko Send message Joined: 14 Dec 09 Posts: 123 Credit: 70,041 RAC: 0 |
That's easy since the source was posted in a different thread here and still online: Many thanks Gary! |
Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
In the first article Scott is said to have stated that "at least one of the kids charged at him". In this updated article this is said: "Scott lost sight of the two other people and then the third person, later identified as Cervini, "advanced toward him." Parrinello could not describe the type of advance." Scott also says the kid was shot twice because he "kept advancing" after being shot the first time. Just thought these were...umm...interesting details to point out. Scott took his .40 cal outside with him to confront these kids and "contain the situation" himself while his wife called 911. Instead of waiting for police to handle the situation he intentionally put himself (and others) in danger by doing this. I'm not saying Scott's initial actions were either right or wrong here (citizen trying to prevent a possible crime from continuing vs. waiting for the police which would give the kids time to take the vehicle and leave, if that was even their intention to begin with). However, IMHO he should have left the policing to the police. After all, it's not like these kids were attempting to rape/murder someone outside of Scott's house and Scott was trying to save the victim--they were merely "in his neighbors' driveway near the neighbors' car..." Unfortunately, the article seems to have expired or been dumped by the source linked to way back at the start. Fortunately, Rhe quoted from the article and the last line in the quote says where the kids were. Just thought I'd toss this in before it disappears completely down the memory hole. I do not fight fascists because I think I can win. I fight them because they are fascists. Chris Hedges A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30674 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Unfortunately, the article seems to have expired or been dumped by the source linked to way back at the start. Robert, you might check the wayback machine to see if it was archived. I suspect one source is AP and the other is the hometown newspaper. Two reporters and two versions. That's the big lesson. So anyone have a link to the trial transcript so we know what people said under oath? (I know it isn't online. A good reason why we can't second guess the jury.) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30674 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
We were in the neighborhood for dinner at Suz's sister's house tonight and I went down to his home (3 doors down) as he was out shoveling his walk. I told him congratulations. Lots of bad juju there! I'd advise Suz's sister to move out of that neighborhood! |
Blurf Send message Joined: 2 Sep 06 Posts: 8962 Credit: 12,678,685 RAC: 0 |
Nah Suz's kids are well-behaved and avoid the bad kids. Although once we were babysitting and we ordered Cervini off the property as he and another couple of older kids had come on and were harrassing Suz's nephews. |
Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
He left without challenging you when ordered off the property yet ran TOWARD a man with a gun in his hand yelling "I'm going to get you!" Life is funny eh? I do not fight fascists because I think I can win. I fight them because they are fascists. Chris Hedges A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr. |
Blurf Send message Joined: 2 Sep 06 Posts: 8962 Credit: 12,678,685 RAC: 0 |
Well my wife was there and her 2 young nephews. He also may have not been in the intoxicated, high state that the coroner said he was in the night of the attack which could've made him more aggressive. |
Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
This is new information that isn't contained in any of the links that I've seen. Could you please post where this came from? I do not fight fascists because I think I can win. I fight them because they are fascists. Chris Hedges A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr. |
Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
Never mind Blurf. I went back and discovered one of the links was two pages. I only saw the first until now. I do not fight fascists because I think I can win. I fight them because they are fascists. Chris Hedges A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30674 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=53559&nowrap=true#960034 The God That Fails Sounds a lot like citizens arrest just might be a good thing. I know that won't sit well. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Sits quite fine with me....... If we cannot bear arms and protect ourselves, the government certainly is not gonna do it for us. Too many are too willing to sit by and let s**t happen......hoping that it won't happen to them. Wake up....... The news is littered with stories about thugs that have escaped our legal system.....only to go back to their ways and harm innocents again. They should have been taken out of the gene pool with a .45 the first time. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
Mark You seem to be one of those people "hoping that it won't happen to them." In your quest to promote some sort of "wild west" law enforcement model, you may become a victim rather than one of those saved by it. You've stated that in the past you've carried a handgun in your left boot for years (unlawfully I'm sure) and that you are looking for another. You've stated that you'll seek another weapon legally but you have so many other sources. You endure wild mood swings (forcing the rest of us to endure them along with you) that you say result from your manic depressiveness. You also binge drink to the point of delirium. Add the fact that you openly express the desire to start shooting at illegals and I think you may find there are others who might want to remove you from the gene pool before you can act on these fantasies. I do not fight fascists because I think I can win. I fight them because they are fascists. Chris Hedges A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
I am reactive, not proactive. So, I'm not about to look for any targets. I would not recommend that you be the one to break into my home whilst I am here, however. Would be very bad karma for you. Some 20 years ago, I put about 100 rounds into a defunct water heater tank in my basement.......nice grouping too, I might add. Browning stainless semiauto......nice piece. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
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