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arkayn Send message Joined: 14 May 99 Posts: 4438 Credit: 55,006,323 RAC: 0 |
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HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
There are not enough AP wu's! We demand more... and a shrubbery! SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
and a nice white picket fence that runs along it. In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
There are not enough AP wu's! We demand more... and a shrubbery! .... one that looks nice. |
Rasputin Send message Joined: 13 Jun 02 Posts: 1764 Credit: 6,132,221 RAC: 0 |
Nothing to complain about here... Everything's working perfectly...Too perfectly. That's what scares me. It's like knowing there's a huge storm just on the other side of the mountain and you can't see any trace of it. And you have no idea when it's going to hit, but you know for a fact it's going to hit and hit hard.. I'm just messing around. A little bored maybe. And I'm not that paranoid until the meds wear off. |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
Nothing to complain about here... Everything's working perfectly...Too perfectly. I know I'm scared too. :) As it was said that data may run out for a short while. This will probably be the next "storm", or at least a storm of posts about "is there something wrong with the servers I can't download anything" </sarcasim> SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
Rasputin Send message Joined: 13 Jun 02 Posts: 1764 Credit: 6,132,221 RAC: 0 |
I just read Matt's posts. "No new data until early November". and "we have only a few drives full of data on our shelf, and maybe a few drives down at Arecibo". All these years with SETI and I can't remember an outage that's lasted weeks. It's going to be interesting to see how people react to this.. |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
All these years with SETI and I can't remember an outage that's lasted weeks. It's going to be interesting to see how people react to this.. Only if your definition of "interesting" includes "boring" and "predictable." |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
Einstein is running, QMC is running, CPDN is running, AQUA should release a new multithreading app next week. Only LHC is missing. So my Opteron 1210 will have both cores occupied even if SETI stalls. Tullio |
Sutaru Tsureku Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5 |
Again 'no jobs available'? Over weeks?? I am slowly dulled. [Don't know how use better words] In short.. NO COMMENTARY. |
Sutaru Tsureku Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5 |
[Extension of my upper post] There is/are really no work/disks laying around in Berkeley, which wasn't calculated with the new 'Enhanced Enhanced app'? |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
"NO COMMENTARY" is commentary. ... and, as I said, predictable. You choose: should they queue up a bunch of "busy" work with no content, or should they let people devote their efforts to other worthy projects? Pick a second project, one that you're only mildly interested in, and give it a 5% resource share. That'll keep you from running out. Or, shut down most of your machines and enjoy the quiet. They're trying to get the software radar blanking working so they can run data that is otherwise contaminated, but it's probably better to assume they won't get that working, and we're going to get a break. ... there will be no work, just as SETI@Home has always promised. |
Josef W. Segur Send message Joined: 30 Oct 99 Posts: 4504 Credit: 1,414,761 RAC: 0 |
[Extension of my upper post] There's a lot of data from the multibeam recorder at NERSC HPSS that hasn't been done yet, but it doesn't have the "hardware" radar blanking information. That's why Matt is concentrating on his software blanking. If he gets that working as intended it will allow using that data. So don't panic, but be prepared for at least some shortage of work. Whatever it is in human psychology which causes the panic reaction, it's not a useful element. Thinking ahead and planning is the way to avoid it when you have enough information to do so. Joe |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
Well, looks like some quite times will be on the way. Im running Milkyway on myu mac now. but its a chore because 6.6.36 thinks milkyway dosnet have enough time to run. Thats why i havent run it on the i7. But i will if seti goes dark, no work no conflict with milkyway. Iam thinking that 8 cores and a cuda should get my milkyway rac up a tad though. Ok heres a stupid question. If seti goes quite for a month how fast will the rac drop? How long will we be able to post in the boards? [/quote] Old James |
Sutaru Tsureku Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5 |
@ Joe Why Matt didn't used your 'easy' words to explain what's going on/will happen? I'm not a SETI@home profession/scientist. I have no big knowledge about what's going on behind the curtain. I know there're WUs for my PCs and that's all.. ;-) |
Rasputin Send message Joined: 13 Jun 02 Posts: 1764 Credit: 6,132,221 RAC: 0 |
All these years with SETI and I can't remember an outage that's lasted weeks. It's going to be interesting to see how people react to this.. No, but I think you just described my life. |
Josef W. Segur Send message Joined: 30 Oct 99 Posts: 4504 Credit: 1,414,761 RAC: 0 |
That's why we have these forums, so users can help users. Matt does a very good job of passing on technical details, but doesn't have time to explain all the reasoning behind that information. And there are facts which he has to consider every day which he may not realize others don't know. We all tend to not explain what is very obvious to ourselves. In his Rainy Day Data (May 14 2009) post Matt gave counts of the files in storage at NERSC. In terms of completely unsplit data, there's not enough to last until November. However, we did a lot of MB work before AP was ready so there should be many files which haven't yet been split for AstroPulse. My guess is sometime early in October the MB work will run out but the project will continue to provide AP work (assuming software radar removal working). Joe |
Sutaru Tsureku Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5 |
@ Joe And whom or what we could blame now/then, that we could/are run out of MB work then? Yes, the life isn't perfectly. Nothing is going 100 % well. Normally I would say.. (maybe) ..'BS' can happen.. But in the Gauntlet time.. ohh.. my RAC will fall like a stone, because my GPU cruncher can only eat MB WUs. Yes, I could also crunch AP WUs on the GPU cruncher, but only on the CPU.. So ~ 5,000 RAC instead of ~ 52,000.. - down to ~ 1/10.. Ohh.. what a 'blamage/pain'.. |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
And whom or what we could blame now/then, that we could/are run out of MB work then? No one ever promised an uninterrupted flow of work. You don't blame people for doing what they promised. |
Sutaru Tsureku Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5 |
O.K., O.K., maybe I forgot the - ;-) - after the/my posted line. But honest, what's now the prob - that we will not have enough MB WUs? The receiver in Arecibo? |
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