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Gunter. Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 29 Jun 04 Posts: 3 Credit: 568,898 RAC: 0	Message 932166 - Posted: 10 Sep 2009, 0:40:56 UTC
I get: 9/9/2009 5:37:47 PM SETI@home Started upload of 24au09ab.24094.20113.8.10.79_0_0 9/9/2009 5:37:48 PM Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 9/9/2009 5:37:48 PM SETI@home Temporarily failed upload of 24au09ab.24094.20113.8.10.79_0_0: HTTP error 9/9/2009 5:37:48 PM SETI@home Backing off 3 hr 58 min 4 sec on upload of 24au09ab.24094.20113.8.10.79_0_0 9/9/2009 5:37:49 PM Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down. 9/9/2009 5:37:51 PM SETI@home Scheduler request completed Is this my machine/connection? This has been happening since this morning.
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zpm Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Apr 08 Posts: 284 Credit: 975,677 RAC: 0	Message 932168 - Posted: 10 Sep 2009, 0:56:07 UTC - in response to Message 932166.
try closing boinc completely, if that doesn't work, restart pc. and if that doesn't work, report back to this thread. ____________ I recommend Secunia PSI: http://secunia.com/vulnerability_scanning/personal/ Go Georgia Tech.
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hiamps Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,638,743 RAC: 30,302	Message 932169 - Posted: 10 Sep 2009, 0:56:50 UTC - in response to Message 932166.
Same thing most people are getting I would bet. Too many trying to send at once I assume. ____________ Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound!
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hiamps Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,638,743 RAC: 30,302	Message 932170 - Posted: 10 Sep 2009, 0:59:49 UTC - in response to Message 932168.
All of my machines are having a hard time with uploads. A few get in most goto retry. This usually happens after jams, I have restarted a couple and it made no difference. ____________ Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound!
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zpm Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Apr 08 Posts: 284 Credit: 975,677 RAC: 0	Message 932174 - Posted: 10 Sep 2009, 1:05:48 UTC - in response to Message 932170. Last modified: 10 Sep 2009, 1:05:53 UTC
oh well, set back monitor the chatter in server problems thread and grab a bowl of chili or w/e.
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Pappa Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jan 00 Posts: 2562 Credit: 12,301,681 RAC: 0	Message 932177 - Posted: 10 Sep 2009, 1:11:19 UTC
Blame those with 10 day caches that are trying to "REFILL." They have managed to overwhelm both the Upload Server and the Scheduler! regards ____________ Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project.
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Cappy [Team Musketeers] Send message Joined: 19 Feb 03 Posts: 18 Credit: 1,179,367 RAC: 0	Message 932180 - Posted: 10 Sep 2009, 1:17:52 UTC
09/09/09 21:15:14\|\|Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 09/09/09 21:15:14\|SETI@home\|Temporarily failed upload of 24au09ad.1803.14796.10.10.114_0_0: HTTP error 09/09/09 21:15:14\|SETI@home\|Backing off 1 min 0 sec on upload of 24au09ad.1803.14796.10.10.114_0_0 09/09/09 21:15:16\|\|Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down. 09/09/09 21:15:23\|SETI@home\|Computation for task 24au09ad.1803.14796.10.10.136_0 finished 09/09/09 21:15:23\|SETI@home\|Starting 24au09aa.24674.113455.11.10.121_0 09/09/09 21:15:23\|SETI@home\|Starting task 24au09aa.24674.113455.11.10.121_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 608 09/09/09 21:15:26\|SETI@home\|Started upload of 24au09ad.1803.14796.10.10.136_0_0 09/09/09 21:15:52\|SETI@home\|Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks ____________
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Pappa Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jan 00 Posts: 2562 Credit: 12,301,681 RAC: 0	Message 932181 - Posted: 10 Sep 2009, 1:24:36 UTC - in response to Message 932180.
You hit it exactly. Patience is the only thing or to start the DOS attack, by forcing manual uploads. 09/09/09 21:15:14\|\|Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 09/09/09 21:15:14\|SETI@home\|Temporarily failed upload of 24au09ad.1803.14796.10.10.114_0_0: HTTP error 09/09/09 21:15:14\|SETI@home\|Backing off 1 min 0 sec on upload of 24au09ad.1803.14796.10.10.114_0_0 09/09/09 21:15:16\|\|Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down. 09/09/09 21:15:23\|SETI@home\|Computation for task 24au09ad.1803.14796.10.10.136_0 finished 09/09/09 21:15:23\|SETI@home\|Starting 24au09aa.24674.113455.11.10.121_0 09/09/09 21:15:23\|SETI@home\|Starting task 24au09aa.24674.113455.11.10.121_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 608 09/09/09 21:15:26\|SETI@home\|Started upload of 24au09ad.1803.14796.10.10.136_0_0 09/09/09 21:15:52\|SETI@home\|Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks ____________ Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project.
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Gunter. Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 29 Jun 04 Posts: 3 Credit: 568,898 RAC: 0	Message 932195 - Posted: 10 Sep 2009, 2:21:46 UTC Last modified: 10 Sep 2009, 2:21:58 UTC
I'll just let it do it automatically.. I updated to 6.10 and it does the same thing. Anyone know of an ETA for ATi WU's for Seti? 9/9/2009 6:48:24 PM SETI@home Requesting new tasks for GPU 9/9/2009 6:49:14 PM SETI@home Message from server: Your computer has no NVIDIA GPU Makes me sad.
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1mp0£173 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0	Message 932197 - Posted: 10 Sep 2009, 2:23:19 UTC - in response to Message 932195.
I'll just let it do it automatically.. I updated to 6.10 and it does the same thing. Anyone know of an ETA for ATi WU's for Seti? 9/9/2009 6:48:24 PM SETI@home Requesting new tasks for GPU 9/9/2009 6:49:14 PM SETI@home Message from server: Your computer has no NVIDIA GPU Makes me sad. Grab a compiler and start writing code?? ____________
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Gunter. Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 29 Jun 04 Posts: 3 Credit: 568,898 RAC: 0	Message 932338 - Posted: 10 Sep 2009, 22:01:57 UTC - in response to Message 932197. Last modified: 10 Sep 2009, 22:02:07 UTC
I am unfortunately only a Network Admin.. not a Software Engineer. If I knew how, i'd try!
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Lint trap Send message Joined: 30 May 03 Posts: 854 Credit: 20,231,952 RAC: 21,068	Message 932339 - Posted: 10 Sep 2009, 22:10:43 UTC - in response to Message 932181.
You hit it exactly. Patience is the only thing or to start the DOS attack, by forcing manual uploads. "Manual uploads?!?!" What, we have a sneaker-net solution now? LOL Martin
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Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 7461 Credit: 39,740,203 RAC: 34,430	Message 932470 - Posted: 11 Sep 2009, 11:14:11 UTC
Anybody else seeing a reluctance for tasks to upload this morning, even though the link is well below stress-level (70 / 9 Mbits)? They get through eventually on their own, but hang around for several retries first. [Note for Ned and others: this is not a complaint, and no, I don't expect perfect operations 24/7/365: I'm perfectly prepared to accept downtime from any BOINC project, and a consequent enhanced share for the others. This is just a free 'heads-up' service for the admins, in case it's the first symptom of a developing or underlying problem.]
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jason_gee Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 4048 Credit: 60,424,919 RAC: 57,805	Message 932471 - Posted: 11 Sep 2009, 11:16:43 UTC - in response to Message 932470.
Anybody else seeing a reluctance for tasks to upload this morning, even though the link is well below stress-level (70 / 9 Mbits)? They get through eventually on their own, but hang around for several retries first. Yep, same here. No idea what would cause that. ____________ "It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change." Charles Darwin
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Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 7461 Credit: 39,740,203 RAC: 34,430	Message 932474 - Posted: 11 Sep 2009, 11:40:20 UTC - in response to Message 932471.
Anybody else seeing a reluctance for tasks to upload this morning, even though the link is well below stress-level (70 / 9 Mbits)? They get through eventually on their own, but hang around for several retries first. Yep, same here. No idea what would cause that. So it's not just the streaming TV I'm using to test the replacement monitor I had to buy yesterday? Set HTTP_debug, but Murphy strikes again: both current stuck uploads unstuck themselves at the first attempt. Time to go out for some lunch, and see what I can catch while I'm away.....
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Dave Send message Joined: 29 Mar 02 Posts: 774 Credit: 23,193,139 RAC: 0	Message 932480 - Posted: 11 Sep 2009, 12:50:43 UTC
I don't know, all this panicking about not being able to upload + get new work - is this going to happen every week?! By the time we're all happy it'll be time for the next outage :D!!!
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Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 7461 Credit: 39,740,203 RAC: 34,430	Message 932481 - Posted: 11 Sep 2009, 13:06:20 UTC - in response to Message 932480.
I don't know, all this panicking about not being able to upload + get new work - is this going to happen every week?! By the time we're all happy it'll be time for the next outage :D!!! When I'm driving my car, and a yellow warning light comes on unexpectedly, I don't panic, and I don't come to a screeching halt in the fast lane of the motorway. But I don't ignore the warning, either: I telephone or call in to my local garage, describe the symptoms, and seek their professional opinion. Sometimes a simple fix at that stage can save a very expensive repair later on. And sometimes it can save the garage money too: remember the case where the tank supplying the forecourt petrol (gas) pumps was filled up with diesel by mistake? The sooner that message got back to the attendants, the better for all concerned.
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Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 7461 Credit: 39,740,203 RAC: 34,430	Message 932487 - Posted: 11 Sep 2009, 13:35:59 UTC
This is what my little yellow warning light is saying :-) 11/09/2009 14:33:55 SETI@home Started upload of 25au09ac.12643.262459.9.10.31_0_0 11/09/2009 14:33:55 [http_debug] [ID#0] info: timeout on name lookup is not supported 11/09/2009 14:33:55 [http_debug] [ID#0] info: About to connect() to setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu port 80 (#2) 11/09/2009 14:33:55 [http_debug] [ID#0] info: Trying 208.68.240.16... 11/09/2009 14:33:55 [http_debug] [ID#0] info: Connected to setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu (208.68.240.16) port 80 (#2) 11/09/2009 14:33:55 [http_debug] [ID#0] Sent header to server: POST /sah_cgi/file_upload_handler HTTP/1.1 User-Agent: BOINC client (windows_intelx86 6.6.37) Host: setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu Accept: / Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded Content-Length: 286 11/09/2009 14:33:55 [http_debug] [ID#0] info: Empty reply from server 11/09/2009 14:33:55 [http_debug] [ID#0] info: Connection #2 to host setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu left intact 11/09/2009 14:33:55 [http_debug] HTTP error: Server returned nothing (no headers, no data)
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1mp0£173 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0	Message 932501 - Posted: 11 Sep 2009, 15:23:58 UTC - in response to Message 932480.
I don't know, all this panicking about not being able to upload + get new work - is this going to happen every week?! By the time we're all happy it'll be time for the next outage :D!!! One of the design criteria for BOINC is low cost, and low cost means using less expensive hardware, not investing in redundant infrastructure, and running at higher loading than would be tolerable otherwise. As Richard indicated, this is not a reason for panic, it's just what happens when you try to operate in this manner. The BOINC client caches work to bridge difficult times. I like his warning light analogy, but I think it's more like the "gas tank warning" -- if the light is on, you watch for a gas station. There is rarely reason to panic. ____________
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Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 7461 Credit: 39,740,203 RAC: 34,430	Message 932507 - Posted: 11 Sep 2009, 15:44:07 UTC - in response to Message 932501.
I like his warning light analogy, but I think it's more like the "gas tank warning" -- if the light is on, you watch for a gas station. There is rarely reason to panic. That's why I consult the professionals if it's one I haven't seen before! 'Low gas' is one thing: low oil pressure, high water temperature, or worn brake pads something else entirely. I've had a PM to say that the usual [back] channels have passed the message on to where it needs to go - thanks, you know who you are.
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9/9/2009 5:37:47 PM SETI@home Started upload of 24au09ab.24094.20113.8.10.79_0_0
9/9/2009 5:37:48 PM Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
9/9/2009 5:37:48 PM SETI@home Temporarily failed upload of 24au09ab.24094.20113.8.10.79_0_0: HTTP error
9/9/2009 5:37:48 PM SETI@home Backing off 3 hr 58 min 4 sec on upload of 24au09ab.24094.20113.8.10.79_0_0
9/9/2009 5:37:49 PM Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
9/9/2009 5:37:51 PM SETI@home Scheduler request completed

Is this my machine/connection? This has been happening since this morning.

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try closing boinc completely, if that doesn't work, restart pc. and if that doesn't work, report back to this thread.
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Same thing most people are getting I would bet. Too many trying to send at once I assume.
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All of my machines are having a hard time with uploads. A few get in most goto retry. This usually happens after jams, I have restarted a couple and it made no difference.
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oh well, set back monitor the chatter in server problems thread and grab a bowl of chili or w/e.

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Blame those with 10 day caches that are trying to "REFILL." They have managed to overwhelm both the Upload Server and the Scheduler!

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09/09/09 21:15:14||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
09/09/09 21:15:14|SETI@home|Temporarily failed upload of 24au09ad.1803.14796.10.10.114_0_0: HTTP error
09/09/09 21:15:14|SETI@home|Backing off 1 min 0 sec on upload of 24au09ad.1803.14796.10.10.114_0_0
09/09/09 21:15:16||Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
09/09/09 21:15:23|SETI@home|Computation for task 24au09ad.1803.14796.10.10.136_0 finished
09/09/09 21:15:23|SETI@home|Starting 24au09aa.24674.113455.11.10.121_0
09/09/09 21:15:23|SETI@home|Starting task 24au09aa.24674.113455.11.10.121_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 608
09/09/09 21:15:26|SETI@home|Started upload of 24au09ad.1803.14796.10.10.136_0_0
09/09/09 21:15:52|SETI@home|Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks

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You hit it exactly. Patience is the only thing or to start the DOS attack, by forcing manual uploads.

09/09/09 21:15:14||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
09/09/09 21:15:14|SETI@home|Temporarily failed upload of 24au09ad.1803.14796.10.10.114_0_0: HTTP error
09/09/09 21:15:14|SETI@home|Backing off 1 min 0 sec on upload of 24au09ad.1803.14796.10.10.114_0_0
09/09/09 21:15:16||Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
09/09/09 21:15:23|SETI@home|Computation for task 24au09ad.1803.14796.10.10.136_0 finished
09/09/09 21:15:23|SETI@home|Starting 24au09aa.24674.113455.11.10.121_0
09/09/09 21:15:23|SETI@home|Starting task 24au09aa.24674.113455.11.10.121_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 608
09/09/09 21:15:26|SETI@home|Started upload of 24au09ad.1803.14796.10.10.136_0_0
09/09/09 21:15:52|SETI@home|Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks

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I'll just let it do it automatically.. I updated to 6.10 and it does the same thing.

Anyone know of an ETA for ATi WU's for Seti?

9/9/2009 6:48:24 PM SETI@home Requesting new tasks for GPU
9/9/2009 6:49:14 PM SETI@home Message from server: Your computer has no NVIDIA GPU

Makes me sad.

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I'll just let it do it automatically.. I updated to 6.10 and it does the same thing.

Anyone know of an ETA for ATi WU's for Seti?

9/9/2009 6:48:24 PM SETI@home Requesting new tasks for GPU
9/9/2009 6:49:14 PM SETI@home Message from server: Your computer has no NVIDIA GPU

Makes me sad.

Grab a compiler and start writing code??
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I am unfortunately only a Network Admin.. not a Software Engineer. If I knew how, i'd try!

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You hit it exactly. Patience is the only thing or to start the DOS attack, by forcing manual uploads.

"Manual uploads?!?!" What, we have a sneaker-net solution now? LOL

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Anybody else seeing a reluctance for tasks to upload this morning, even though the link is well below stress-level (70 / 9 Mbits)? They get through eventually on their own, but hang around for several retries first.

[Note for Ned and others: this is not a complaint, and no, I don't expect perfect operations 24/7/365: I'm perfectly prepared to accept downtime from any BOINC project, and a consequent enhanced share for the others. This is just a free 'heads-up' service for the admins, in case it's the first symptom of a developing or underlying problem.]

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Anybody else seeing a reluctance for tasks to upload this morning, even though the link is well below stress-level (70 / 9 Mbits)? They get through eventually on their own, but hang around for several retries first.

Yep, same here. No idea what would cause that.

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Anybody else seeing a reluctance for tasks to upload this morning, even though the link is well below stress-level (70 / 9 Mbits)? They get through eventually on their own, but hang around for several retries first.

Yep, same here. No idea what would cause that.

So it's not just the streaming TV I'm using to test the replacement monitor I had to buy yesterday?

Set HTTP_debug, but Murphy strikes again: both current stuck uploads unstuck themselves at the first attempt. Time to go out for some lunch, and see what I can catch while I'm away.....

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I don't know, all this panicking about not being able to upload + get new work - is this going to happen every week?! By the time we're all happy it'll be time for the next outage :D!!!

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I don't know, all this panicking about not being able to upload + get new work - is this going to happen every week?! By the time we're all happy it'll be time for the next outage :D!!!

When I'm driving my car, and a yellow warning light comes on unexpectedly, I don't panic, and I don't come to a screeching halt in the fast lane of the motorway. But I don't ignore the warning, either: I telephone or call in to my local garage, describe the symptoms, and seek their professional opinion. Sometimes a simple fix at that stage can save a very expensive repair later on. And sometimes it can save the garage money too: remember the case where the tank supplying the forecourt petrol (gas) pumps was filled up with diesel by mistake? The sooner that message got back to the attendants, the better for all concerned.

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This is what my little yellow warning light is saying :-)

11/09/2009 14:33:55 SETI@home Started upload of 25au09ac.12643.262459.9.10.31_0_0
11/09/2009 14:33:55 [http_debug] [ID#0] info: timeout on name lookup is not supported
11/09/2009 14:33:55 [http_debug] [ID#0] info: About to connect() to setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu port 80 (#2)
11/09/2009 14:33:55 [http_debug] [ID#0] info: Trying 208.68.240.16...
11/09/2009 14:33:55 [http_debug] [ID#0] info: Connected to setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu (208.68.240.16) port 80 (#2)
11/09/2009 14:33:55 [http_debug] [ID#0] Sent header to server: POST /sah_cgi/file_upload_handler HTTP/1.1
User-Agent: BOINC client (windows_intelx86 6.6.37)
Host: setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu
Accept: */*
Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip
Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
Content-Length: 286

11/09/2009 14:33:55 [http_debug] [ID#0] info: Empty reply from server
11/09/2009 14:33:55 [http_debug] [ID#0] info: Connection #2 to host setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu left intact
11/09/2009 14:33:55 [http_debug] HTTP error: Server returned nothing (no headers, no data)

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I don't know, all this panicking about not being able to upload + get new work - is this going to happen every week?! By the time we're all happy it'll be time for the next outage :D!!!

One of the design criteria for BOINC is low cost, and low cost means using less expensive hardware, not investing in redundant infrastructure, and running at higher loading than would be tolerable otherwise.

As Richard indicated, this is not a reason for panic, it's just what happens when you try to operate in this manner.

The BOINC client caches work to bridge difficult times.

I like his warning light analogy, but I think it's more like the "gas tank warning" -- if the light is on, you watch for a gas station.

There is rarely reason to panic.
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I like his warning light analogy, but I think it's more like the "gas tank warning" -- if the light is on, you watch for a gas station.

There is rarely reason to panic.

That's why I consult the professionals if it's one I haven't seen before!

'Low gas' is one thing: low oil pressure, high water temperature, or worn brake pads something else entirely.

I've had a PM to say that the usual [back] channels have passed the message on to where it needs to go - thanks, you know who you are.

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