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Message 1914399 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 11:23:29 UTC
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Super G Cortina ladies
1 Lara Gut Switzerland
2 Johanna Schnarf Italia
3 Nicole Schmidhofer Austria
4 Anna Veith Austra
5 Tina Weirather Liechtenstein
6 Lindsey Vonn USA
7 Tamara Tippler Austria
8 Ragnhild Mowinckel Norway
9 Ramona Siebenhofer Austria
10 Michelle Gisin Switzerland
Goggia and Shriffin out. Vonn blames the wind and bad visibility.
Bad fall of Nadine Fest, Austria, 31. Race interrupted.
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Message 1914401 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 11:39:06 UTC - in response to Message 1914399.  
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Strange that Schriffin had so many mistakes.
Looked like she had problem with her skis.
Perhaps the ski edges should have been more sharpened.
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Message 1914410 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 13:29:15 UTC

Kitzbuehel slalom
1 Henrik Kristoffersen Norway
2 Marcel Hirscher Austria
3 Daniel Yule Switzerland
4 Victor Muffat-Jaundet France
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Message 1914414 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 13:42:57 UTC - in response to Message 1914410.  

It didn't help that Arnold Schwarzenegger wearing traditional Tirol clothes and hat was cheering Hirscher :)
Today it was Henrik Kristoffersen's day.
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Message 1914433 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 15:49:57 UTC - in response to Message 1914414.  

Austrian fans cheered Kristoffersen. In orderly Switzerland hockey fans of rival teams are fighting each other and the police must intervene firing rubber bullets. I watch this on Swiss TV which I see via Internet, since its broadcasts are not visible in Italy.
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Message 1914446 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 16:56:57 UTC - in response to Message 1914433.  

Team sports like football and icehockey now often attracts hooligans.
I have met many of them going to football matches travelling in the subway.
Really scary!
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Message 1914507 - Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 1:25:50 UTC
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Schladming will hosts a night slalom for men on Tuesday, while San Vigilio di Marebbe, home of the Moelgg brothers will have a Giant Slalom for ladies. I don't know why they call it Plan de Corones (Kronplatz) which has nothing in common with San Vigilio except the snow. It is a peak served by a cableway with both an Italian and a Sud Tirol rifugio on its top. If you like wine, go to the Italian rifugio, if you prefer beer go to the Sud Tirol house. I have skied there and frequented both.
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Message 1914565 - Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 12:11:04 UTC - in response to Message 1914507.  
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Home of the Moelgg brothers?
I think you mean Home of Manuela and Manfred Mölgg :)

I have never been to South Tirol. But very close in Nauders, Austria.
It's near the Reschenpass where three countries meet: Austria, Italy and Switzerland.
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Message 1914589 - Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 16:14:39 UTC

Recently a TV person, Albert Angela, spoke about the Dolomite mountains being a UNESCO heritage, but he spoke only of those Dolomiti being in Trentino or Alto Adige aka Sudtirol, in the province of Bolzano/Bozen. This raised hell with Veneto, because 46% of the Dolomiti are in Veneto, including the top of Marmolada mountain, 3330 meters high, and the beautiful Pale di San Martino, where I have climbed. Once in San Martino di Castrozza the hotel manager had a photo of Kaiser Franz Josef in his office and I asked him why. He told me that Veneto was well administered by Austria before the First World War, sometimes like Trieste, which owns a good deal to the Hapsburg family, with the beautiful Miramare castle built by Maximilian, who went to Mexico as an Emperor and was shot at Queretaro, with his wife becoming mad. It is at 8 km from Trieste, next to the International Center of Theoretical Physics now Abdus Salam Center. Many Austrians and Germans come to visit it without even visiting Trieste. Alto Adige food and wine are very different from the Austrian style and the hotel manager at San Candido/Innichen used to make us compare Italian Pinot Grigio with its Austrian counterpart, Gewurz Traminer.
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Message 1914645 - Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 21:24:43 UTC - in response to Message 1914589.  
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Strange. To me places like Cortina d'Ampezzo is very much the Dolomite.
Hmm. I think the Tourism Bureu of Trentino-Alto Adige has done some lobbying.
http://www.liberoquotidiano.it/news/spettacoli/13300868/alberto-angela-meraviglie-dolomiti-presidente-provincia-belluno-sospetto-soldi.html
To speak is the president of the province of Belluno, Roberto Padrin , who in the Corriere delle Alpi gets angry with the host: "Many people have written and phoned complaining about the program - explains Padrin - and many say that Angela only mentioned Trentino Alto Adige because the two provinces have paid, I do not want to believe it is so, because if state television addresses information for economic convenience it is much more than serious, but if it is misinformation, it would be better if someone remedied.

Meraviglie di Alberto Angela fa tappa nelle Dolomiti UNESCO | trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xvRFSu79mI
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Message 1914699 - Posted: 23 Jan 2018, 7:08:03 UTC
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Sappada, which was in the province of Belluno,Regione Veneto, has recently asked to pass to Friuli Venezia Giulia which has a special statute like Valle d'Aosta, Trentino Alto Adige, Sicilia and Sardegna, which have more power and hence more money. I have skied in Sappada. it is a popular resort for people living in Trieste. People there used to speak an old German language, like the Walser around Monte Rosa. Those people crossed the Alps with their animals in warmer times and settled in the higher parts of the Alpine valleys. But now they are forgetting their language and speak the Italian as spoken on TV.
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Message 1914754 - Posted: 24 Jan 2018, 8:39:06 UTC
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Giant Slalom San Vigilio di Marebbe
1 Viktoria Rebensburg Germany
2 Ragnhild Mowinckel Norway
3 Federica Brignone Italia
at Schladming Marcel Hirscher wins again the night slalom over Henrik Kristoffersen, who is bombarded with snowballs by Hirscher fans during the second stage. Mikaela Shriffin tweets a reprimand. But Italian TV reporters say that Kristoffersen had said something nasty to fans cheering Hirscher in a previous race, so to say he had provoked them. Third is Daniel Yule, Switzerland.
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Message 1914773 - Posted: 24 Jan 2018, 9:35:56 UTC - in response to Message 1914754.  

Hmm. Only the day before you and I had a discussion about audience behavior...

This time, Henrik had to lose for Marcel Hirscher in Schladming. It separated 39/100 second between them.
Kristoffersen to Norwegian state TV NRK.
It is ridiculous. I've never been to it before. I see that there are several snowballs coming against me.
You just don't do it. It can be dangerous if it hit your face.
But I had not beat Marcel today anyway.

Marcel Hircher to NRK
It's a great audience, but there are, unfortunately, a few idiots here, among 50,000 people.
I'm ashamed of those who did this to Henrik.

Mikaela Schriffin comments on Twitter.
I don’t care who you are, who you cheer for, what your nationality, or what your reason.
Throwing snowballs or any other kind of obstruction AT racers WHILE they are skiing to throw them off is not only disgusting, but dangerous.
Get a life.
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Message 1914782 - Posted: 24 Jan 2018, 10:37:36 UTC

It looks like a High Noon between Hirscher and Kristoffersen. Before Schladming I had heard a former Italian ski champion who comments races for Italian TV saying something about Kristoffersen behavior after defeating Hirscher.
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Message 1914822 - Posted: 24 Jan 2018, 13:28:11 UTC - in response to Message 1914782.  

Kristoffersen was apparently waving wildly and made a gesture that means: Are you all stupid ?!
Then he looks for the TV cameras, curses in Norwegian, keeps talking, gesticulating.
In the end, he raises his forefinger admonishingly.

Well thats not nice.
But do Austrian fans or Italian commentators know Norwegian curses?
Was it some reaction to what Hirscher fans said or did?
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Message 1914823 - Posted: 24 Jan 2018, 13:32:16 UTC

From the sad incident in Schladming (I have been skiing there btw) to something more uplifting.

Speaking of UNESCO World Heritage mountains.
Monte Titano, in San Marino.
Been at the summit:)

On the World Heritage tentative list there is also the border area of Monte Bianchi in Valle d'Aosta.
Been skiing there in Courmayeur on Mont Chétif with a very nice view of Monte Bianchi right in front of you.
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Message 1914826 - Posted: 24 Jan 2018, 13:57:23 UTC - in response to Message 1914823.  
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I have skied in La Thuile when you arrive at Piccolo Gran Bernardo in face of Mont Blanc or Monte Bianco. But I have been also on top of Il Dente del Gigante or Aiguille du Geant above Courmayeur. On the French side I have been at Lac Blanc above Chamonix. My daughter and her husband have completed the Tour of Mont Blanc passing through Val Ferret, Switzerland, France and again Italy in Val Veni. There I was at Fauteuil des Allemands under the Aiguille Noire de Peuterey to support a rescue operation in 1963. I have met Walter Bonatti there.
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Message 1914833 - Posted: 24 Jan 2018, 14:39:42 UTC - in response to Message 1914826.  

Funny name Il Dente del Gigante.



Come to think about Trollveggen (Troll Wall) in Norway.
The Troll Wall is the tallest vertical rock face in Europe, about 1,100 metres (3,600 ft) from its base to the summit of its highest point. At its steepest, the summit ridge overhangs the base of the wall by nearly 50 metres (160 ft).
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Message 1914850 - Posted: 24 Jan 2018, 16:03:42 UTC
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I have a book by Walter Bonatti titled "I giorni grandi", the Great Days. Now Walter is dead and one of my companions on the Dente del Gigante disappeared in the Himalayas, on the Langtang Lirung, a 7246 meters peak. The other is now his widow. The Giorni Grandi have gone.
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Message 1915265 - Posted: 26 Jan 2018, 12:34:03 UTC
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Alpine combined ladies at Lenzerheide
1 Wendy Holdener Switzerland
2 Marta Bassino Italia
3 Ana Bucik Slovenia
4 Lindsey Vonn USA
Vonn wins the SuperG stage with Federica Brignone second and Ragnhild Mowinckel third
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