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Message 32683 - Posted: 4 Oct 2004, 19:38:55 UTC

Two questions - I recently changed my user details on my seti classic account which has not enabled me to run BOINC on the same account - anything I can do?

I've registered and downloaded BOINC and Setiahome 4.05 which has had constant 100% share of the cpu and plenty of productivity on both my 2ghz PC's - each CPU has worked on several units with "start" and "finish" downloads etc in the messages tab - Its been up since Saturday... and still the project tab registers 0.00 and so does my online account... just what do I need to do to get some credit for CPU time???
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Message 32709 - Posted: 4 Oct 2004, 20:57:37 UTC

You need to give it at least a couple of weeks before you can reasonably expect the credits to start flowing!
Credits here are caclulated differently than in the Classic version. In Classic, you process one unit you got one credit. That led to a bunch of presumed cheaters, all you had to do was process a unit into the 80 some percentile, stop, save the unit into a different directory and then process the rest of the unit. When finished just copy that 80 some percent finished unit back into the Seti directory and you finish it again and again and again and etc etc etc etc.. You just got yourself a ton of units returned with little "actual" processing on your part. Share this same unit with other computers on your "farm" and you have a TON of units completed with again almost no "real" work being contributed.
Boinc on the other hand requires 3 different computers to process the same unit, requesting an amount of credit when completed. Then if the numbers returned are within the same ballpark, the specific size is not known, all 3 computers will be granted credit based on the middle of the 3 computers requests. This means that your units that you have returned must also be returned by 2 other people, oh did I mention that the units have a 2 week deadline?, and then as long as they are within the ballpark, credits are granted. In practice when the system is up and running properly you will continuously crunch units and then within about 2 weeks get credit for it. But of course you will be crunching more units within that same 2 weeks so the process will be ongoing. If the units are not returned within the 2 week deadline they are sent again until 3 requests are made within the same ballpark. If 2 are returned within the 2 weeks but 1 is not than only 1 will be sent out, if that person resets or detattaches from the project, then the unit will be sent out again and again until 3 results are returned OR a unit is sent out a total of 15 times. At that point NO-ONE will get credit for that unit.


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Message 32719 - Posted: 4 Oct 2004, 21:21:16 UTC - in response to Message 32709.  

Cheers mikey - been out of the loop for a while and sort of ignored the BOINC side of seti2, I'd let my farm and setiqueue burn through the cache on classic over the summer, changed ISP's when I upgraded to ADSL (and my e-mail address) only to find out I'd shot myself in the foot with my existing account by changing the address. Gutted - Doh!

Thought I'd try a few test units on 2 of my rigs... and was feeling a bit gutted AGAIN about the lack of results but as you've discribed the scoring, no problems - Its about time that any loopholes where cleaned out.
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Message 33482 - Posted: 7 Oct 2004, 3:08:24 UTC - in response to Message 32719.  

> Cheers mikey - been out of the loop for a while and sort of ignored the BOINC
> side of seti2, I'd let my farm and setiqueue burn through the cache on classic
> over the summer, changed ISP's when I upgraded to ADSL (and my e-mail address)
> only to find out I'd shot myself in the foot with my existing account by
> changing the address. Gutted - Doh!
>
Yes I used to have that problem too...now I pay $50.00 every 3 years for a permanent email remailing address. I pay them, they give me an email address, that I chosoe from a list, and then I tell them were to forward the mail to. I have not lost anyone or anything in years now!!!
I also run SetiQueue and am doing the same thing with some of my computers. I have a "farm" of 17 computers here at home. I got most of them cheap and the others I or the family either use or have upgraded from.

> Thought I'd try a few test units on 2 of my rigs... and was feeling a bit
> gutted AGAIN about the lack of results but as you've discribed the scoring, no problems - Its about time that any loopholes where cleaned out.
>
Yes, it is long overdue. It has however created a new quandry for people. When you download a unit it MUST be crunched by that computer, or you get no credit for it! No more SetiQueue type programs, yet. There MAY be a way, but it will have to wait until the program settles down a bit.


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