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Message 761796 - Posted: 1 Jun 2008, 20:45:45 UTC - in response to Message 761784.  
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Chess challenge 37

White to move and mate in 3

DaveSun found a check mate in 2. Very impressive! :) 1. Rg4xg7+ Kg8-h8(forced) 2. Rg7-g5++

Let's see if anyone else can find it - (And his mate in 3 was correct also ;)






1. Rg4xg7+ Kg8-h8(forced)
(mate in 2. Rg7-g5++ but since rule states mate in 3)
2. Rg7-g8+ Kh8xRg8(forced)
3.Rb2-g2++


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Message 761962 - Posted: 2 Jun 2008, 8:36:11 UTC

Darn! I missed Chess Challenge 37!

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Message 761963 - Posted: 2 Jun 2008, 9:01:51 UTC - in response to Message 761962.  

Darn! I missed Chess Challenge 37!

You can still have a go at it if you haven't read the answers yet.

I don't usually let on someone has the correct answer until I'm ready to publish the next challenge, but on this occasion I was impressed that DaveSun found a two solution check mate for 3 solution puzzle ;)

Ingenious! Well done again DaveSun :)


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Message 762159 - Posted: 2 Jun 2008, 19:05:31 UTC

DaveSun wins Chess challenge 37 Well done :)
solution;
1 Rxg7 Kh8
2 Rg8+ Kxg8
3 Rg2++


DaveSun's solution in 2 (Well done!);
1 Rxg7+ Kh8
2 Rg7-g5++


Chess challenge 38

White to move and mate in 4.
There is also a mate in two which I will accept as a win instead of/as well as.

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Message 762165 - Posted: 2 Jun 2008, 19:24:18 UTC
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In response to Chess Challenge 38

1. Ne5-f7 1. Rf8-f7x
2. Qd5-d8+ 2. Rf7-f8 (forced)
3. Qd8-f8++

Does this work?

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Message 762261 - Posted: 2 Jun 2008, 23:51:31 UTC - in response to Message 762159.  

Chess challenge 38

White to move and mate in 4.
There is also a mate in two which I will accept as a win instead of/as well as.

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Mate in 2 is possible if:
1. Qd5-g8+ This is a gamble on the part of white that black will answer with Rf8xQg8. Blocking his own king. possible but not very likely.
White then completes with
2. Ne5-f7++
If Black takes white's Queen with his King instead of his Rook, mate will most likely go to black as white becomes no threat at that point.

Mate in 4 is a delay by black.
1. Ne5-f7+ Rf8xNf7
2. Qd5-d8+ Qb5-e8(delays mate by 1 move)
3. Qd8xQe8+ Rf7-f8
4. Qe8xRf8++
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Message 762270 - Posted: 3 Jun 2008, 0:39:22 UTC - in response to Message 762165.  

In response to Chess Challenge 38

1. Ne5-f7 1. Rf8-f7x
2. Qd5-d8+ 2. Rf7-f8 (forced)
3. Qd8-f8++

Does this work?

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Luke yes this would work, but Your second black move is not forced. Black could bring the Queen back to block, delaying your check mate by one more move. But you would get it in 4 as the white Queen takes black Queen and then your second (now third) move for Rook is forced, and Queen takes Rook for ++


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Message 762280 - Posted: 3 Jun 2008, 0:58:21 UTC - in response to Message 762261.  


Mate in 2 is possible if:
1. Qd5-g8+ This is a gamble on the part of white that black will answer with Rf8xQg8. Blocking his own king. possible but not very likely.
White then completes with
2. Ne5-f7++
If Black takes white's Queen with his King instead of his Rook, mate will most likely go to black as white becomes no threat at that point.

Mate in 4 is a delay by black.
1. Ne5-f7+ Rf8xNf7
2. Qd5-d8+ Qb5-e8(delays mate by 1 move)
3. Qd8xQe8+ Rf7-f8
4. Qe8xRf8++

DaveSun, I've screwed up here. There is no mate in 2, but a possible mate in three. My apologies. yes, you ++ would work in two, but as ever these challenges are based on the opponent making to work hard to win ;) Your mate is not the solution I have, but it works, it's fine :)

Chess Challenge 38, White to move and mate in 4.

There is also a mate in three which I will accept as a win instead of/as well as.


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Message 762495 - Posted: 3 Jun 2008, 21:29:07 UTC

Hello Dear Friends!!! It's nice to see you all again, I've missed you!



On Number 38:

I thinks there's a flaw in the solutions so far. On Move 1, Black doesn't have to take the Knight with his Rook at all: it's not forced. Black can always move his King to g8 since the Knight blocks the Queen from her coverage of g8.



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So to complete the answers, my solution is this one. :]]


1. Ne5-f7+; Kh8-g8
2. Nf7-h6+ (double check); Kg8-h8
3. Qd5-g8+; Rf8xg8 (forced)
4. Nh6-f7++
All is forced from beginning to end.












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Message 762710 - Posted: 4 Jun 2008, 6:19:17 UTC - in response to Message 762495.  

Hello Dear Friends!!! It's nice to see you all again, I've missed you!



On Number 38:

I thinks there's a flaw in the solutions so far. On Move 1, Black doesn't have to take the Knight with his Rook at all: it's not forced. Black can always move his King to g8 since the Knight blocks the Queen from her coverage of g8.

Well done Beets. Spot on! And so is your solution :)

You are quite right, it's all forced from beginning to end; it's known as a "Smothered Mate".


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So to complete the answers, my solution is this one. :]]


1. Ne5-f7+; Kh8-g8
2. Nf7-h6+ (double check); Kg8-h8
3. Qd5-g8+; Rf8xg8 (forced)
4. Nh6-f7++
All is forced from beginning to end.





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Message 762714 - Posted: 4 Jun 2008, 6:39:01 UTC
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Beethoven wins Chess challenge 38 Well done :)
solution;
1 Nf7+ Kg8 If ...Rxf7 then Qd8+ forces mate in 2
2 Nh6+ Kh8
3 Qg8+ Rxg8
4 Nf7++ Mate


Well done to DaveSun for also getting a solution in 4, but it is not the 'correct' solution since it is not all forced as Beethoven points out.
The winning solutions are based on forced moves rather than relying on your opponent to take and option which helps you get the mate.
[edit] Any 'options' taken by your opponent may accelerate check mate to less moves, or to an unforced check mate, but the idea behind getting the correct solution is based on your opponent taking any options to stave off check mate for as long as possible.
Doh, what do I know about chess?

In the following challenge each move by the black King is forced or to stave off check mate for as long as possible.


Chess challenge 39

White to move and mate in 5.

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Message 762716 - Posted: 4 Jun 2008, 7:03:38 UTC - in response to Message 762714.  

Beethoven wins Chess challenge 38 Well done :)
solution;
1 Nf7+ Kg8 If ...Rxf7 then Qd8+ forces mate in 2
2 Nh6+ Kh8
3 Qg8+ Rxg8
4 Nf7++ Mate


Well done to DaveSun for also getting a solution in 4, but it is not the 'correct' solution since it is not all forced as Beethoven points out.
The winning solutions are based on forced moves rather than relying on your opponent to take and option which helps you get the mate.
[edit] Any 'options' taken by your opponent may accelerate check mate to less moves, or to an unforced check mate, but the idea behind getting the correct solution is based on your opponent taking any options to stave off check mate for as long as possible.

In the following challenge each move by the black King is forced.


Chess challenge 39

White to move and mate in 5.

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Too Hard....
Sorry...

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Message 762979 - Posted: 4 Jun 2008, 23:42:43 UTC - in response to Message 762714.  

Chess challenge 39

White to move and mate in 5.

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1. Nd5-f4 Kh6-h7
2. Be7-g5 Kh7-h8
3. Nf4-g6+ Kh8-h7
4. Ng6-f8+ Kh7-h8
5. Bg5-f6++
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Message 763388 - Posted: 6 Jun 2008, 0:59:29 UTC - in response to Message 762979.  

Spot on DaveSun! You win chess challenge 39. Well done :)

I won't be around for a while, so perhaps someone else would like to post a challenge or few?

Chess challenge 39

White to move and mate in 5.

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1. Nd5-f4 Kh6-h7
2. Be7-g5 Kh7-h8
3. Nf4-g6+ Kh8-h7
4. Ng6-f8+ Kh7-h8
5. Bg5-f6++



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Message 763619 - Posted: 6 Jun 2008, 15:43:27 UTC
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DaveSun wins Chess challenge 39 Well done :)
solution;
1 Nf4 Kh7
2 Bg5 Kh8
3 Ng6+ Kh7
4 Nf8+ Kh8
5 Bf6++


Chess challenge 40

White to move and mate in 3. There is also a mate for White in 2 which I will accept as a win.

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Message 763695 - Posted: 6 Jun 2008, 19:36:51 UTC - in response to Message 763619.  

DaveSun wins Chess challenge 39 Well done :)
solution;
1 Nf4 Kh7
2 Bg5 Kh8
3 Ng6+ Kh7
4 Nf8+ Kh8
5 Bf6++


Chess challenge 40

White to move and mate in 3. There is also a mate for White in 2 which I will accept as a win.

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Now here's something I can have a go at!!!....


1. Qg5-f6x+ 1. Kh8-g8
2. Hg4-h6++


Thanks for another Question Ice!
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Message 765168 - Posted: 9 Jun 2008, 7:49:57 UTC

Have I won? Did I get the correct answer?

Beets gone, now Ice.... starting to get lonely round here....
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Message 765177 - Posted: 9 Jun 2008, 8:09:52 UTC - in response to Message 765168.  

Have I won? Did I get the correct answer?

Beets gone, now Ice.... starting to get lonely round here....


;-) i expect hes back on thuesday or so.. Just a little break from
the computers.. :-))


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Message 765179 - Posted: 9 Jun 2008, 8:12:01 UTC - in response to Message 765177.  

Have I won? Did I get the correct answer?

Beets gone, now Ice.... starting to get lonely round here....


;-) i expect hes back on thuesday or so.. Just a little break from
the computers.. :-))


He owes me one correct solution...... ;)
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Message 765180 - Posted: 9 Jun 2008, 8:13:36 UTC - in response to Message 765177.  

Have I won? Did I get the correct answer?

Beets gone, now Ice.... starting to get lonely round here....


;-) i expect hes back on thuesday or so.. Just a little break from
the computers.. :-))

A break from the computers???? Is that like a psychotic break???
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