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Message 772296 - Posted: 23 Jun 2008, 5:57:05 UTC - in response to Message 772293.  

Denominator came from http://www.research.att.com/~njas/sequences/b002486.txt

Used denominator, a high precision value for pi, and a high precision calculator
to get the numerator.

It was only later that I found the numerator in

http://www.research.att.com/~njas/sequences/b002485.txt.

I hope this wasn't a pen and paper only question!


No it wasn't luckily for you ;)

Still 3 hours to go until this question closes, everyone is welcome to try and beat guido.man!

@ Guido.man - You may top your own answer if you want to...

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Message 772336 - Posted: 23 Jun 2008, 8:34:40 UTC

DADDIO has researched pi for some time now:



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Message 772558 - Posted: 23 Jun 2008, 19:02:31 UTC

Congratulations to guido.man! for solving Q71!
Q71 Answer: As close to pi as you can get it!

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Q72 : Find the biggest prime number and prove it's prime! By yourself! No Internet, Pen and Paper only!

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Message 772598 - Posted: 23 Jun 2008, 21:45:49 UTC
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Luke :

It has been proven that the list of primes goes on to infinity. So even the largest prime found can be added to to find the next one. The Japanese Ran their super computer for 600 hours and found something like the 600,000 th prime or so I remember.

The answer would be infinity and then beyond infinity as much as you like.
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Message 772690 - Posted: 24 Jun 2008, 2:38:07 UTC - in response to Message 772598.  

Luke :

It has been proven that the list of primes goes on to infinity. So even the largest prime found can be added to to find the next one. The Japanese Ran their super computer for 600 hours and found something like the 600,000 th prime or so I remember.

The answer would be infinity and then beyond infinity as much as you like.


I'm with you on this.

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Message 772740 - Posted: 24 Jun 2008, 3:57:48 UTC

When I say:


Q72 : Find the biggest prime number and prove it's prime! By yourself! No Internet, Pen and Paper only!


I mean: take a number (say 3) and prove it's prime, e.g. divide it into 2,3,5,7 and show how (long division or any division strategy) it doesn't go in. Other than infinity.

So one person might take 5 and show how it's prime, and then someone else will take 7 and show how it's prime.

Get what I mean???

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Message 772805 - Posted: 24 Jun 2008, 8:53:59 UTC
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OK--Here's my answer. The reason I like understanding math is to avoid hard work of calculating.

I would take the list of all known prime numbers and multiply them all together. I would then add 1 to this resultant product.

This new number would be prime since division by any number would always yield a remainder of 1.

There you go !! I claim a foul if anyone tries to use my new prime number to win this point. Do you think that I can get the no-belly prize for this ??
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Message 772808 - Posted: 24 Jun 2008, 9:00:10 UTC

Daddio is becoming an expert on Set Theory:



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Message 772817 - Posted: 24 Jun 2008, 9:22:57 UTC - in response to Message 772805.  

OK--Here's my answer. The reason I like understanding math is to avoid hard work of calculating.

I would take the list of all known prime numbers and multiply them all together. I would then add 1 to this resultant product.

This new number would be prime since division by any number would always yield a remainder of 1.

There you go !! I claim a foul if anyone tries to use my new prime number to win this point. Do you think that I can get the no-belly prize for this ??

Objection, M'Lud.

Prime numbers are, by definition, odd numbers (as opposed to even numbers - not "odd" as in "strange" though they may be that too :)

Multiply all known prime numbers together and you will end up with an odd number; then add 1 and you have an even number - divisible by 2 and therefore not prime.

Back to the drawing board? (Pun not intended but perhaps appropriate anyway ;))

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Message 772822 - Posted: 24 Jun 2008, 9:32:47 UTC
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Au contraire mon Herr

I did not claim that the product of the primes was odd. You forget that 2 is prime so this "product of all known primes" would have to be even--adding one would make it odd AND prime. QED

"ne pas?"

His "Lordship" should get another point for the defense of my thesis --LOL (I think that Euclid should also get a point)

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Message 772826 - Posted: 24 Jun 2008, 9:47:34 UTC - in response to Message 772822.  

Au contraire mon Herr

I did not claim that the product of the primes was odd. You forget that 2 is prime so this "product of all known primes" would have to be even--adding one would make it odd AND prime. QED

"ne pas?"

His "Lordship" should get another point for the defense of my thesis --LOL

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Message 772828 - Posted: 24 Jun 2008, 9:51:02 UTC
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Don't feel bad I just learned from you that the product of two odd numbers is odd. I don't think that I knew that before.

Do you know why "Love" means everything in life and nothing in tennis.

Hint--Blame it on the French for the definition in Tennis

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Message 773092 - Posted: 24 Jun 2008, 22:35:09 UTC

So......., where are we on this question, :)
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Message 773214 - Posted: 25 Jun 2008, 6:01:16 UTC

Where are we in this question? I don't know!

Consider it this:

Q71 : Find the prime number I am thinking of, it's between 1 and 100. A person wins by guessing the prime number or being the closest! Competition ends in exactly 24 hours...

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Message 773225 - Posted: 25 Jun 2008, 6:49:37 UTC - in response to Message 773214.  
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Where are we in this question? I don't know!

Consider it this:

Q71 : Find the prime number I am thinking of, it's between 1 and 100. A person wins by guessing the prime number or being the closest! Competition ends in exactly 24 hours...

Luke.

Q71: 97

[edit]Not even pen & paper. Using mental arithmetic, 97 cannot be divided by 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29, 31, 37,... I reckon it is prime.[/edit]

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Message 773429 - Posted: 25 Jun 2008, 18:49:24 UTC

Anymore Answers for Question 71?

Q71 : Find the prime number I am thinking of, it's between 1 and 100. A person wins by guessing the prime number or being the closest! Competition ends in exactly 24 hours...
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Message 773449 - Posted: 25 Jun 2008, 19:42:47 UTC - in response to Message 773429.  

Anymore Answers for Question 71?

Q71 : Find the prime number I am thinking of, it's between 1 and 100. A person wins by guessing the prime number or being the closest! Competition ends in exactly 24 hours...

Ahhh! So now it's just a lottery?

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Message 773572 - Posted: 26 Jun 2008, 0:32:27 UTC - in response to Message 772828.  

[quote]Don't feel bad I just learned from you that the product of two odd numbers is odd. I don't think that I knew that before.

Do you know why "Love" means everything in life and nothing in tennis.

Hint--Blame it on the French for the definition in Tennis

Bill[

It's from the notion of Zero being a goose egg or Le oeuf (the egg)

This became anglicized to "loof" and then "love"
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Message 773638 - Posted: 26 Jun 2008, 3:52:57 UTC - in response to Message 773449.  

Anymore Answers for Question 71?

Q71 : Find the prime number I am thinking of, it's between 1 and 100. A person wins by guessing the prime number or being the closest! Competition ends in exactly 24 hours...

Ahhh! So now it's just a lottery?

F.


I suppose so! Just this question anyway...

Closing in 24 hours...
Q71 : Find the prime number I am thinking of, it's between 1 and 100. A person wins by guessing the prime number or being the closest! Competition ends in exactly 24 hours...

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Message 773676 - Posted: 26 Jun 2008, 6:59:19 UTC

Any Guesses???!!!! Come on.... this ain't even a maths problem!!!

Q71 : Find the prime number I am thinking of, it's between 1 and 100. A person wins by guessing the prime number or being the closest!


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