I wonder if anyone could tell me how to set up VISTA so it will allow BOINC to start automatically whenever the computer restarts after updating. Currently it will not allow BOINC to open/run after each restart, unless I do it manually.

Thanks,

Nick

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I ended up just installing it as a service, that way it will crunch fine but will not have the boinc manager open automatically.

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Version 6 should fix this, but that's still in an Alpha / Beta stage.

As Arkayn suggests, install as a service, do not allow the Manager to auto-start when logging in. You can manually start the Manager when you need it.

This also removes the screensaver feature, though. The screensaver isn't too savvy with Vista anyway and on many machines can slow down crunching.

Good luck and happy crunching.

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If BOINC is installed C: Program/BOINC this can cause client errors at the least, installing BOINC as a service, C: BOINC/BOINC on Vista it works well but yes you will have to restart BOINC manually with a computer reboot I believe. As a side note to client errors, having a screen saver come on can also cause errors even with BOINC's screen saver, best to put screen saver on "blank". The voice of experience here passing on what others have passed on to my questions. /salute

If BOINC is installed C: Program/BOINC this can cause client errors at the least, installing BOINC as a service, C: BOINC/BOINC on Vista it works well but yes you will have to restart BOINC manually with a computer reboot I believe. As a side note to client errors, having a screen saver come on can also cause errors even with BOINC's screen saver, best to put screen saver on "blank". The voice of experience here passing on what others have passed on to my questions. /salute

i have not had any problems with boinc installed in c/program/boinc. when my machine starts up it always asks me if i want to let boinc to run, but i can turn that off.

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If BOINC is installed C: Program/BOINC this can cause client errors at the least, installing BOINC as a service, C: BOINC/BOINC on Vista it works well but yes you will have to restart BOINC manually with a computer reboot I believe. As a side note to client errors, having a screen saver come on can also cause errors even with BOINC's screen saver, best to put screen saver on "blank". The voice of experience here passing on what others have passed on to my questions. /salute

i have not had any problems with boinc installed in c/program/boinc. when my machine starts up it always asks me if i want to let boinc to run, but i can turn that off.

First of all, thank you everyone for your responses.
My problem is that BOINC will NOT run unless i allow it manually. I would prefer it to be automatic whenever the computer starts up.

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First of all, thank you everyone for your responses.
My problem is that BOINC will NOT run unless i allow it manually. I would prefer it to be automatic whenever the computer starts up.

Yes, Pooh Bear explained that this will be fixed in BOINC v6, but there is no way to do it with BOINC v5. The only way to auto-start BOINC is to install it as a system service. Otherwise, manual is the only way to get it to run after every startup.

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First of all, thank you everyone for your responses.
My problem is that BOINC will NOT run unless i allow it manually. I would prefer it to be automatic whenever the computer starts up.

My guess is, that it depents on the BOINC version you use. I am using 5.8.16 with both Vista (2x) and XP(2x), waiting until there is a good and stable Vista version. Just troubles with higher BOINC versions. BOINC installed in C:\\program files\\BOINC. Set for all users, not as a service. BOINC starts always automaticly when you login to a useraccount.
Not using the compatibility mode or run as administrator. Almost running Vista for a year, but no problems with the automatic start of BOINC.

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On all of my rigs, I have Boinc installed as a single user installation, and checked the option to auto start when I did the installation.
I am assuming that Vista has a start menu....
Could he not add the proper program there so it would auto start?

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On all of my rigs, I have Boinc installed as a single user installation, and checked the option to auto start when I did the installation.
I am assuming that Vista has a start menu....
Could he not add the proper program there so it would auto start?

To cut down on malware from starting up with Windows and further infesting machines, Microsoft has made it so only authorized/approved software can start up with Windows Vista. Any other programs attempting to start with Windows automatically will be blocked by Windows Defender/User Account Control with a message in your Notification Area stating "Windows has blocked some of your startup programs". You have to manually click on the icon and allow any programs that have not passed authorization to start.

There is no manual way around this, which is actually a good thing because if there were, malware writers could just as easily use the same tricks and Vista would be no more secure against these threats as previous versions of Windows.

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On all of my rigs, I have Boinc installed as a single user installation, and checked the option to auto start when I did the installation.
I am assuming that Vista has a start menu....
Could he not add the proper program there so it would auto start?

To cut down on malware from starting up with Windows and further infesting machines, Microsoft has made it so only authorized/approved software can start up with Windows Vista. Any other programs attempting to start with Windows automatically will be blocked by Windows Defender/User Account Control with a message in your Notification Area stating "Windows has blocked some of your startup programs". You have to manually click on the icon and allow any programs that have not passed authorization to start.

There is no manual way around this, which is actually a good thing because if there were, malware writers could just as easily use the same tricks and Vista would be no more secure against these threats as previous versions of Windows.

Thanx for the clarification....I was not aware of that.
I assume that for Boinc to be authorized/approved by MS would involve paying them a fee to do so?

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Thanx for the clarification....I was not aware of that.
I assume that for Boinc to be authorized/approved by MS would involve paying them a fee to do so?

Oh I'm quite sure MS would look at your program source and development support documents prior to publication as a free service ..... [ Think Compuglobalhypermeganet ]

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Thanx for the clarification....I was not aware of that.
I assume that for Boinc to be authorized/approved by MS would involve paying them a fee to do so?

Oh I'm quite sure MS would look at your program source and development support documents prior to publication as a free service ..... [ Think Compuglobalhypermeganet ]

If that were true, perhaps it's something the Boinc developers should check into...

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User account control can be turned off (the pop-up that says it blocked a startup program)... the control should be in the security center.

I also put a shortcut icon to BOINC in my "startup" folder in the start menu, no problems thusfar on my Vista box

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To disable User control per windows help.... is....
msconfig....brings up the system config utility.....
There is a tool tab.....in tools... there is disable user control... and enable user control.....apply disable user control.

I wonder if anyone could tell me how to set up VISTA so it will allow BOINC to start automatically whenever the computer restarts after updating. Currently it will not allow BOINC to open/run after each restart, unless I do it manually.

Thanks,

Nick

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I assume that for Boinc to be authorized/approved by MS would involve paying them a fee to do so?

I don't know for certain. I haven't looked into it myself. I assume one of the BOINC developers must have by now (or are in the process of researching exactly that) since BOINC v6 is supposed to have MS approval.

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User account control can be turned off (the pop-up that says it blocked a startup program)... the control should be in the security center.

I also put a shortcut icon to BOINC in my "startup" folder in the start menu, no problems thusfar on my Vista box

It should be noted that turning off UAC makes Vista inherently less secure, or about as secure as Windows XP.

I have actually read about a new DNS attack on Windows machines that infected quite a few XP machines, but any Vista machine with UAC on were not affected.

For the security alone, I have gone back and turned on UAC on all 5 of my Vista machines.

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User account control can be turned off (the pop-up that says it blocked a startup program)... the control should be in the security center.

I also put a shortcut icon to BOINC in my "startup" folder in the start menu, no problems thusfar on my Vista box

It should be noted that turning off UAC makes Vista inherently less secure, or about as secure as Windows XP.

I have actually read about a new DNS attack on Windows machines that infected quite a few XP machines, but any Vista machine with UAC on were not affected.

For the security alone, I have gone back and turned on UAC on all 5 of my Vista machines.

I'm behind 2 hardware and 2 software firewalls, and have 3 different spyware/adware/malware sweepers so security isn't that much of a concern.

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I'm behind 2 hardware and 2 software firewalls, and have 3 different spyware/adware/malware sweepers so security isn't that much of a concern.

What about the OP to which you're giving out advice? Does your 2 hardware and 2 software firewalls protect them if they disable their UAC?

Even if you are behind all that security, doesn't mean the OP is. Before giving out advice to turn off security features to and end user, you should at least forewarn them as to what they're doing to their system and how it can affect them. I was simply doing exactly that and letting the person know that the advice might not be a good idea if they want to remain secure (not knowing their setup).

(By the way, the DNS attack I alluded to earlier, it wasn't from spyware/malware/adware. Incidentally, having that many firewalls can actually cause performance loss and be cause for a great deal of conflicts. Its generally not recommended to have more than one software firewall and one good hardware firewall).

I know people who were behind 1 hardware firewall and 1 software firewall with plenty of AV/malware software and still got hit by the DNS attack on XP. AV/anti-malware software are only as good as their update packages as to what they can detect. Presumably, your firewalls all allow you to access port 80 traffic, which is all the DNS attack needs to work.

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What about the OP to which you're giving out advice? Does your 2 hardware and 2 software firewalls protect them if they disable their UAC?

Point taken. My comment wasn't to downplay your statement, but it appears I took it out of context.

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