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Message 698492 - Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 0:07:46 UTC

Wow for every Iraqi killed by a bomber or whatever their family gets $200,000, the family of a soldier only gets $150,000 because Iraqis are more important. A friend reupped in October, he was supposed to get $15,000 reupp bonus. His family counted on this money and was promised it would come before the end of the year. Well they were just notified that we paid out too much to Iraqis and there is nothing left for our Soldiers...They won't get THEIR money until this spring IF Congress sees fit to pass enough money. This is total BS, our soldiers should come first not last!
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Message 698500 - Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 0:22:56 UTC

And to think that I can't even find a ten buck an hour job... [rolls eyes]... ;)
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Message 698502 - Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 0:26:19 UTC - in response to Message 698500.  

And to think that I can't even find a ten buck an hour job... [rolls eyes]... ;)

There is always more school....learn a trade and make more money...Or better yet go to war...
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Message 698507 - Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 0:33:53 UTC - in response to Message 698502.  
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There is always more school.... [snip] Or better yet go to war...

You mean spend $10,000 to be robotized, or go kill people... It's the new american dream... ;)

(Funny how the folks pushing this garbage are the very same folks who had company paid training and leisure military service.)
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Message 698511 - Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 0:43:17 UTC - in response to Message 698507.  

There is always more school.... [snip] Or better yet go to war...

You mean spend $10,000 to be robotized, or go kill people... It's the new american dream... ;)

(Funny how the folks pushing this garbage are the very same folks who had company paid training and leisure military service.)


Education is being Robotized? WOW no wonder you can't make $10 an hour...I wouldn't hire you either...I am hiring....
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Message 698514 - Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 0:53:39 UTC

Show us a link backing your original post of this please? Thanks..................................................................................................................................................................................................................(dots represent waiting time)
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Message 698515 - Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 0:55:17 UTC - in response to Message 698511.  

I wouldn't hire you either...I am hiring....

Thanks, but I'm no candle maker... ;)
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Message 698517 - Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 1:00:27 UTC - in response to Message 698514.  

Show us a link backing your original post of this please? Thanks..................................................................................................................................................................................................................(dots represent waiting time)

We are trying to get the official letter faxed to me...Hopefully tomorrow I can post the letter...He is in Iraq and she had to move home to N Carolina with her family...
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Message 698521 - Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 1:02:24 UTC - in response to Message 698515.  

I wouldn't hire you either...I am hiring....

Thanks, but I'm no candle maker... ;)

I am a candlemaker but that is not what I do...I am a retail/wholesale candle supply store...I sell millions of pounds of wax and other product. Before this I was an Electrician which did require lots of school but paid very well.
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Message 698522 - Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 1:12:11 UTC - in response to Message 698521.  

I wouldn't hire you either...I am hiring....

Thanks, but I'm no candle maker... ;)

I am a candlemaker but that is not what I do...I am a retail/wholesale candle supply store...I sell millions of pounds of wax and other product. Before this I was an Electrician which did require lots of school but paid very well.

You've abandoned your 'argument' which makes so much 'press' in favor of a joke. Guess the reasonable and factual people win once again....
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Message 698523 - Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 1:14:31 UTC - in response to Message 698522.  

I wouldn't hire you either...I am hiring....

Thanks, but I'm no candle maker... ;)

I am a candlemaker but that is not what I do...I am a retail/wholesale candle supply store...I sell millions of pounds of wax and other product. Before this I was an Electrician which did require lots of school but paid very well.

You've abandoned your 'argument' which makes so much 'press' in favor of a joke. Guess the reasonable and factual people win once again....


I answered you...Sorry I can't offer instant gratification. Whatever you feel you won I am glad for but it still doesn't change the facts. I am leaving for the night and do not have a computer where I am staying as I am out of town right now...
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Message 698581 - Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 9:25:34 UTC - in response to Message 698523.  

I wouldn't hire you either...I am hiring....

Thanks, but I'm no candle maker... ;)

I am a candlemaker but that is not what I do...I am a retail/wholesale candle supply store...I sell millions of pounds of wax and other product. Before this I was an Electrician which did require lots of school but paid very well.

You've abandoned your 'argument' which makes so much 'press' in favor of a joke. Guess the reasonable and factual people win once again....


I answered you...Sorry I can't offer instant gratification. Whatever you feel you won I am glad for but it still doesn't change the facts. I am leaving for the night and do not have a computer where I am staying as I am out of town right now...

Fine. I'm going out of town tomorrow too. Maybe we'll wind up in the same damned place sharing breakfast donuts. Don't share the women I've met in the past year. I hear there's skank going around.
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Message 698603 - Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 12:38:47 UTC - in response to Message 698492.  

Wow for every Iraqi killed by a bomber or whatever their family gets $200,000, the family of a soldier only gets $150,000 because Iraqis are more important. A friend reupped in October, he was supposed to get $15,000 reupp bonus. His family counted on this money and was promised it would come before the end of the year. Well they were just notified that we paid out too much to Iraqis and there is nothing left for our Soldiers...They won't get THEIR money until this spring IF Congress sees fit to pass enough money. This is total BS, our soldiers should come first not last!


Don't like that, huh?

Well I hope you see what liberalism since the Vietnam era has done for America.


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Message 698981 - Posted: 10 Jan 2008, 22:30:14 UTC - in response to Message 698603.  

Wow for every Iraqi killed by a bomber or whatever their family gets $200,000, the family of a soldier only gets $150,000 because Iraqis are more important. A friend reupped in October, he was supposed to get $15,000 reupp bonus. His family counted on this money and was promised it would come before the end of the year. Well they were just notified that we paid out too much to Iraqis and there is nothing left for our Soldiers...They won't get THEIR money until this spring IF Congress sees fit to pass enough money. This is total BS, our soldiers should come first not last!


Don't like that, huh?

Well I hope you see what liberalism since the Vietnam era has done for America.


US liberalism since the Vietnam era? That would be the liberalism of 3 years of President Ford, 8 years of President Reagan, 4 years of President Bush (Snr), and 7 years of President Bush (Jnr) (total 22 years Republican Presidents) versus the 4 years of President Carter and 8 years of President Clinton (total 12 years Democratic Presidents). Perhaps you're commenting on those damned liberal Republicans ...
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 698984 - Posted: 10 Jan 2008, 22:45:53 UTC
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Theodore Roosevelt, 1901-1909             Republican
William Howard Taft, 1909-1913            Republican
Woodrow Wilson, 1913-1921                 Democrat
Warren Gamaliel Harding, 1921-1923        Republican
Calvin Coolidge, 1923-1929                Republican
Herbert Clark Hoover, 1929-1933           Republican
Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 1933-1945      Democrat
Harry S. Truman, 1945-1953                Democrat
Dwight David Eisenhower 1953-1961         Republican
John Fitzgerald Kennedy, 1961-1963        Democrat
Lyndon Baines Johnson, 1963-1969          Democrat
Richard Milhous Nixon, 1969-1974          Republican
Gerald Rudolph Ford, 1974-1977            Republican
James Earl Carter, Jr., 1977-1981         Democrat
Ronald Wilson Reagan, 1981-1989           Republican
George Herbert Walker Bush, 1989-1993     Republican
William Jefferson Clinton, 1993-2001      Democrat 
George Walker Bush, 2001-2009             Republican

Where are the Libertarians? ;)
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Message 699048 - Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 2:58:06 UTC

Nice list of presidents - and of all the ones on the list NONE gave a dollar to a soldier. Congress controls the money not the president. He can only approve or veto a spending bill. He can send a proposed budget to congress, but as noted - he doesn't get what he wants all the time.

I don't know where the $200,000 comes from to pay for an Iraqi that has died, never have heard it mentioned and couldn't find anything about it on the internet. If this is supposedly coming out of money budgeted for aid to Iran it comes from a different "pot" of money that the Federal Budget dedicates to the Army.

an American serviceman has an insurance policy that pays the death benefit if you die while on active duty (Sevicemans Group Life Insurance) this is not paid out of the Army's budget. there are some other benefits paid to widows and orphans and those are paid by the Army's budget but it mostly consists of accumulated pay and leave (vacation) and money to pay for his family to relocate to where they elect to settle.

Your friends bonus got pigeonholed because Senator Harry Reid(D)US Senate and Nancy Pelosi(D), US House of Representatives have decided they will force President Bush out of Iraq by constricting the US Armys budget. The Army decided to hold off paying a lot of things until they see what happens in April when congress sends it's next money bill to the president.
There are lots of news stories about that if you care to look.
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Message 699053 - Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 3:05:59 UTC

As far as it goes, since 1945 -

Democratic control both houses and President - 10 years
Democratic control both houses - 19 years
Democratic control of House of Representives (who control the budget) 25 years

Republican control both houses and President - 2 years
Republican control both houses 6 years
Republican control of House of Representives - 2 years

So since 1945 the Republicans have had control of the money 2 years. You can be President all you want but if what you want cost anything guess what?


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Message 699133 - Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 9:57:58 UTC - in response to Message 699048.  

they will force President Bush out of Iraq by constricting the US Armys budget.

Great! First they took away the civilian jobs, now they want to take away the military jobs... ;)
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Message 699173 - Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 11:41:45 UTC - in response to Message 698981.  
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Wow for every Iraqi killed by a bomber or whatever their family gets $200,000, the family of a soldier only gets $150,000 because Iraqis are more important. A friend reupped in October, he was supposed to get $15,000 reupp bonus. His family counted on this money and was promised it would come before the end of the year. Well they were just notified that we paid out too much to Iraqis and there is nothing left for our Soldiers...They won't get THEIR money until this spring IF Congress sees fit to pass enough money. This is total BS, our soldiers should come first not last!


Don't like that, huh?

Well I hope you see what liberalism since the Vietnam era has done for America.


US liberalism since the Vietnam era? That would be the liberalism of 3 years of President Ford, 8 years of President Reagan, 4 years of President Bush (Snr), and 7 years of President Bush (Jnr) (total 22 years Republican Presidents) versus the 4 years of President Carter and 8 years of President Clinton (total 12 years Democratic Presidents). Perhaps you're commenting on those damned liberal Republicans ...


1. Presidents don't make law, Congress does.
2. Politicians tend to listen to the will of their constituents and just like it's wrong for a politician to vote himself a raise, it's also wrong for a government dependent to vote his or herself a raise.

Simply put, I feel that those who do not contribute to society should not have a say in how our society is run. Stop the unemployed, uneducated, and the welfare leeches from voting, and you'll see a rapid change in how things are run in this country as far as the "haves" being punished for the life decisions made by the "have nots".


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Message 699284 - Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 18:53:42 UTC - in response to Message 699173.  
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I feel that those who do not contribute to society should not have a say in how our society is run.

Thomas Jefferson would be so very proud of you... ;)
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