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Message 676277 - Posted: 12 Nov 2007, 1:18:58 UTC

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Message 676998 - Posted: 13 Nov 2007, 0:52:21 UTC
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Highly Maneuverable Aircraft Technology (HiMAT) was a NASA-program to develop technologies for future fighter aircraft. Among the technologies explored were close-coupled canards, fully digital flight control (including propulsion), composite materials (graphite and fiberglass), winglet etc.

The HiMat were actually drone aircraft, as the design team decided that it would be cheaper and safer to not have a pilot on board who could be killed in the event of a crash. This also meant that no ejection seat would have to be fitted.

Testing was completed in 1983 and the two HiMat aircraft are now on display, one at the National Air and Space Museum and the other at the NASA Ames Research Center.





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Message 677005 - Posted: 13 Nov 2007, 1:05:49 UTC



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Message 677365 - Posted: 13 Nov 2007, 22:44:18 UTC - in response to Message 677005.  



What is this? It isn't a real airplane, is it?

Well Because the picture has an IL-2 on its left upper corner, here a real IL-2:

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Message 677368 - Posted: 13 Nov 2007, 22:47:23 UTC - in response to Message 677365.  



What is this? It isn't a real airplane, is it?

Well Because the picture has an IL-2 on its left upper corner, here a real IL-2:

It was a concpet drawing the I found on the internet

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Message 677506 - Posted: 14 Nov 2007, 2:15:59 UTC - in response to Message 677005.  




I was curious about this aircraft so I did a little research.

HEINKEL "Lerche II"

This Heinkel VTOL (Vertical TakeOff and Landing) fighter/interceptor was based on an earlier design, the "Wespe" (Wasp). Engineer Reiniger of the Heinkel company in Vienna started the design work on Febuary 25, 1945 and completed the design on March 8, 1945. The "Lerche" (Skylark) employed a ducted wing planform with contrarotating propellors, powered by two Daimler Benz DB605D engines. The pilot lay in a prone position in the extreme nose, and projected armament was two MK 108 30mm cannon.

Span: 4 m (13' 1.6") Length: 9.4 m (30' 10.4") Max. Speed: 800 km/h (497 mph)


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Message 677942 - Posted: 14 Nov 2007, 23:16:49 UTC
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Good research there Dominique. It's interesting to note that no prototypes were ever built.




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Message 678038 - Posted: 15 Nov 2007, 1:25:55 UTC

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Message 678040 - Posted: 15 Nov 2007, 1:27:58 UTC

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Message 678042 - Posted: 15 Nov 2007, 1:33:25 UTC

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Message 678044 - Posted: 15 Nov 2007, 1:35:33 UTC

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Message 678046 - Posted: 15 Nov 2007, 1:38:27 UTC

I can't imagine why people are so fascinated by plans of Nazi weapons which gladly never even have existed as prototypes that they let them resurrect as paintings or models, including the awful symbol of the most terrible part of German history, the "Third Reich".
Is that just ignorance or the wish to bring that system back?
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Message 678049 - Posted: 15 Nov 2007, 1:40:58 UTC - in response to Message 678046.  

I can't imagine why people are so fascinated by plans of Nazi weapons which gladly never even have existed as prototypes that they let them resurrect as paintings or models, including the awful symbol of the most terrible part of German history, the "Third Reich".
Is that just ignorance or the wish to bring that system back?



None of the above.

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Message 678190 - Posted: 15 Nov 2007, 12:57:32 UTC - in response to Message 678049.  

I can't imagine why people are so fascinated by plans of Nazi weapons which gladly never even have existed as prototypes that they let them resurrect as paintings or models, including the awful symbol of the most terrible part of German history, the "Third Reich".
Is that just ignorance or the wish to bring that system back?



None of the above.

This thread is not about ignorance but about an interest in military and other "Top Gun" aircraft. You can try and censor all mention of the Nazi regime if you want, but that regime produced scientists and inventors who went on to America and elsewhere to make the West what it is today, military or otherwise. Perhaps the awful symbols of the past should remain to remind us not to go back there, but we can still stop and wonder at what can be created from war, and the amazing ideas for planes that some had.




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