Google will help you find the videos showing the individual explosions going off in building 7.

You'll also find firemen talking about hearing the explosions.

And I'm not surprised by either. I would be more surprised if there were not explosions from WTC 7 prior to it's collapse. The building was the home to massive transformers, any idea what they are cooled with? I'll give you a clue, it's liquid and it burns.

Want to see what happens when a transformer burns?

You can watch one here.

Next.

lol

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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

Glad to have amused you by suggesting that a rational, non-conspiratorial explanation for the events at WTC 7 exists.

How about some eye witness accounts of what happened?

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

Google will help you find the videos showing the individual explosions going off in building 7.

You'll also find firemen talking about hearing the explosions.

And I'm not surprised by either. I would be more surprised if there were not explosions from WTC 7 prior to it's collapse. The building was the home to massive transformers, any idea what they are cooled with? I'll give you a clue, it's liquid and it burns.

Want to see what happens when a transformer burns?

You can watch one here.

Next.

I have seen several residential transformers blow. They look like ground level fireworks most of the time. And they make a lot of noise.

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Never surrender and never give up. In the darkest hour there is always hope.

These things can only be learned on ones own. Some will listen but 95% or more will not.

EXACTLY... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

Glad to have amused you by suggesting that a rational, non-conspiratorial explanation [snip] exists.

And it only took them six years to come up with that 'rational non-conspiratorial explanation'... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

surely there must be something more to this...

You're looking at the US Census Bureau unemployment statistics from 1997-2007:

Can you spot 9/11/01? ;)

If you know your history, Clinton's economic down turn was just starting when Bush was elected in Nov. 2000. The increase in unemployment rate started in early 2001.

The fall of unemployment starts when the tax cuts are implemented.

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But, I think in answer to the poster's question, can you spot 9/11/01 in the unemployment graph, the answer is simply, no. To my eyes, the step rise continues into late November, early December, and the rate of unemployment finally tops out in mid 03.

And it only took them six years to come up with that 'rational non-conspiratorial explanation'... ;)

Heh, not exactly. This is the first time I've responded in these forums with pretty much the same thing that's been said for the past seven years. Not exactly the same thing, because Larry Silverstein didn't make his comment until 2002, and it wasn't picked up by the conspiracy theorists (CT) until the PBS show was rebroadcast in 2004, but hey, essentially the same thing. The footage of the damage to the south wall of WTC7 has been around for seven years, but the CT sites prefer to show the north face as the damage there was substantially less (strange that one, WTC 1 and 2 were south of WTC7).

The CT sites (and the film in the original post) also love to point out that from the north side, WTC7 appears to fall like a regular demolition, though close attention, even to that footage shows the roof collapsing a few second before the north face, and pictures of the site after the collapse show the north face almost intact over the rubble of the remainder of the building, almost like if fell over the top of where the rest of the building used to be. It doesn't take a genius to realize that most of WTC7 had collapsed prior to the north face, or maybe it does.

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

History Channel: 911 Conspiracies Fact or Fiction?

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-220800737609900104&hl=en


Google vids is rendering this video to too many people at the moment.

Be patient.

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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

Found it here on Google Vids

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

Thanks, bobby

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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

Hm, pretty lurid and not too neutral is my first impression.
Hopefully make it to watch the whole video soon.

THE Emperor of the City



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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

I don't know if I shall concur or challenge this comment editorial... must think about once again:


Are we safer today?

Deseret Morning News editorial
Published: September 10, 2007

Tuesday will mark six years since what so far has been the worst day of the 21st century for the United States. Given the number of lives lost and the general fear that spread after the terrorist attacks that day, Americans have a right to expect their government has by now made strides to protect them from a repeat of such a thing.

However, a new report from the Government Accountability Office, generally considered to be a nonpolitical, credible auditing agency, says that may not have happened.

In fact, the 320-page report says the United States is safer today than in 2001 but that the Department of Homeland Security, which was established after the attacks, can take no credit.

Specifically, the auditors found that Homeland Security has done little to identify places where people illegally cross the border into the country. It hasn't done enough to remove criminal aliens. The outer perimeters of airports are not secure. Standards are lacking for nonaviation transportation. And, perhaps most alarming, it has not succeeded in coordinating a response plan to emergencies that would combine the efforts of all agencies, nor in forming strategies to counter chemical, biological or nuclear attacks.

An Associated Press report said experts have warned it would take five years or more to make a department as large as Homeland Security effective. The problem, of course, is that Americans don't have the luxury of waiting while bureaucrats get their act together.

Recent arrests in Britain and Germany are stark reminders that terrorists remain committed to attacking the West. The 9/11 attacks took years to develop and involved elaborate deceptions and training. People were stunned by the audacity of using jet airliners as missiles to attack key sites, something that seemed to come straight from a science fiction movie.

There is little reason to believe terrorists have lost their initiative or that they are not currently hatching at least one similar plot.

The good news, of course, is that the United States has remained free from further attacks since 9/11. If Homeland Security can't take credit for that, surely intelligence and law-enforcement agencies can. A number of plots have been thwarted and exposed. Perhaps many more have been foiled in secret.

But the GAO has made it clear that much more can be done, and Americans should demand it be done quickly.

© 2007 Deseret News Publishing Company | All rights reserved

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THE Emperor of the City.

Interesting.
If just the half would be true we should be worried - and unfortunately truth usually lies in the middle.

A commentator listed all of the terrorist attacks stopped cold by the USA on its own soil today plus many that the US helped stop in other countries. I wish I had the link to it to post. Maybe someone else has spotted it. There were 15 or 20 major events stopped including airport bombings, plane hijackings, chemical attacks, dirty bomb attacks, hits on military bases, subway trains, Brooklyn Bridge demolition, etc etc.

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Founder of BOINC team Objectivists. Oh the humanity! Rational people crunching data!
I did NOT authorize this belly writing!

A commentator listed all of the terrorist attacks stopped cold by the USA on its own soil today plus many that the US helped stop in other countries. I wish I had the link to it to post. Maybe someone else has spotted it. There were 15 or 20 major events stopped including airport bombings, plane hijackings, chemical attacks, dirty bomb attacks, hits on military bases, subway trains, Brooklyn Bridge demolition, etc etc.

Are we supposed to take the governments word that they stopped these attacks? Do they have proof they stopped the attacks? Why didn't they stop other attacks? Shouldn't they be stopping all attacks? Why aren't they stopping all attacks?

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Hopefully the cosmos is not trying to reverse the charges.
Moderation in all things.

A commentator listed all of the terrorist attacks stopped cold by the USA on its own soil today plus many that the US helped stop in other countries. I wish I had the link to it to post. Maybe someone else has spotted it. There were 15 or 20 major events stopped including airport bombings, plane hijackings, chemical attacks, dirty bomb attacks, hits on military bases, subway trains, Brooklyn Bridge demolition, etc etc.

Are we supposed to take the governments word that they stopped these attacks? Do they have proof they stopped the attacks? Why didn't they stop other attacks? Shouldn't they be stopping all attacks? Why aren't they stopping all attacks?

These people were all arrested and are in custody awaiting trial. All attacks in the U.S.A have been stopped so far since 2001.

Why aren't we stopping all the attacks? What do you mean? Many attacks in England, Germany, Asia, Canada, etc have been stopped through international intelligence cooperation. They're stopping all the ones they can.

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Founder of BOINC team Objectivists. Oh the humanity! Rational people crunching data!
I did NOT authorize this belly writing!

A commentator listed all of the terrorist attacks stopped cold by the USA on its own soil today plus many that the US helped stop in other countries. I wish I had the link to it to post. Maybe someone else has spotted it. There were 15 or 20 major events stopped including airport bombings, plane hijackings, chemical attacks, dirty bomb attacks, hits on military bases, subway trains, Brooklyn Bridge demolition, etc etc.

Are we supposed to take the governments word that they stopped these attacks? Do they have proof they stopped the attacks? Why didn't they stop other attacks? Shouldn't they be stopping all attacks? Why aren't they stopping all attacks?

These people were all arrested and are in custody awaiting trial. All attacks in the U.S.A have been stopped so far since 2001.

Why aren't we stopping all the attacks? What do you mean? Many attacks in England, Germany, Asia, Canada, etc have been stopped through international intelligence cooperation. They're stopping all the ones they can.

Stopping all the one's they can? Does that mean there are one's out there they can't stop? Who's planning those and why aren't we trying to stop them?

The government hasn't stopped any terrorist attacks on US soil because there haven't been any to stop. The attacks that they say they stopped were not attacks by terrorists but by terrorist wannabes. It the real terrorists that we have to watch out form but we can't find them.

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Hopefully the cosmos is not trying to reverse the charges.
Moderation in all things.

A commentator listed all of the terrorist attacks stopped cold by the USA on its own soil today plus many that the US helped stop in other countries. I wish I had the link to it to post. Maybe someone else has spotted it. There were 15 or 20 major events stopped including airport bombings, plane hijackings, chemical attacks, dirty bomb attacks, hits on military bases, subway trains, Brooklyn Bridge demolition, etc etc.

Are we supposed to take the governments word that they stopped these attacks? Do they have proof they stopped the attacks? Why didn't they stop other attacks? Shouldn't they be stopping all attacks? Why aren't they stopping all attacks?

These people were all arrested and are in custody awaiting trial. All attacks in the U.S.A have been stopped so far since 2001.

Why aren't we stopping all the attacks? What do you mean? Many attacks in England, Germany, Asia, Canada, etc have been stopped through international intelligence cooperation. They're stopping all the ones they can.

Stopping all the one's they can? Does that mean there are one's out there they can't stop? Who's planning those and why aren't we trying to stop them?

The government hasn't stopped any terrorist attacks on US soil because there haven't been any to stop. The attacks that they say they stopped were not attacks by terrorists but by terrorist wannabes. It the real terrorists that we have to watch out form but we can't find them.

Oh, you can find the real terrorists, and you can easily find them in the USA. The PR division of one group is in Washington D.C., 20505; another group runs a R&D division in Fort Meade, Maryland; some other groups and persons are elsewhere. Some of these terrorist groups even have the word "security" in their official names. And almost all of these groups have a huge influence to the US government with their "advise", leading to more wars, and to more fear among the citizens and less rights for them...

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