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Message 587576 - Posted: 16 Jun 2007, 10:02:19 UTC

Just a note to tell you that my mailbox is being flooded with mail concerning gas prices and illegal immigrants. To boycott
oil companies or not; to provide amnesty to illegal immigrants or not, etc.

Since I have become jaded to the various solutions proposed by the Republicans, Democrats, Sierra Club, ACLU, etc., I
have elected to solve the problems as they affect me. My response solves both my gas and illegal immigrant problems.....
I have hired illegal immigrants to push my car. They're plentiful and cheaper than buying gas. Then I pay them in Pesos so
they have to go home to spend it.

Don't you love it when a plan comes together?

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Message 587633 - Posted: 16 Jun 2007, 14:00:19 UTC - in response to Message 587321.  

"Sarge_II" wrote:
http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=dad98b5a-a8c3-4c34-b6ce-9143cee02bf1&entry=index&sid=rss_topstories&utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=rss_topstories

Madonna, although her pay is only a piddling $72 million these days, received the most press out of all the celebrities listed, had the second-biggest Internet showing, and came in at number three. (Ranked on her biceps alone, she would have been number one, of course.)


And Wynde thought people could tell the difference between large numbers. LOL!

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Message 587646 - Posted: 16 Jun 2007, 15:09:40 UTC - in response to Message 587466.  
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Breaking the law is always wrong. You may object to the law, in which case you are welcome to enter the political arena and get the law changed or repealed whichever suits you. But breaking the law is wrong. A foreigner entering the US without permission from the US is breaking the law and that is wrong, because that foreigner is breaking the law, which is wrong.


This means that right or wrong is actually nothing more than a bunch of government laws. Brilliant. Ever hear of the Sons of Liberty?

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Message 587652 - Posted: 16 Jun 2007, 15:20:04 UTC



Illegal immigration wrong wrong wrong!!

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Message 587657 - Posted: 16 Jun 2007, 15:30:23 UTC

What about illegal emigration?

As far as I know there are countries where Americans are not allowed to even travel to directly?
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Message 587742 - Posted: 16 Jun 2007, 18:12:04 UTC - in response to Message 587466.  

BillyHyland seems to think that I was stating something about whether illegal immigration is right or wrong. He could not be more wrong. It should be easy to see that my points were about equating right and wrong with legal and illegal and that these are not the same. End of lesson.
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Message 587762 - Posted: 16 Jun 2007, 18:42:04 UTC - in response to Message 586784.  

While everyone is on the subject...what about anchor babies.

These women jump our borders 8 1/2 months pregnant, go in labor in
the United States, use our hospitals without a penny in there pockets,
dump their kid out, and the little b..... gets automatic citizenship.

...and they call them "anchor babies." Their birth certificates should have
a big red stamp across them...FOR IDENTIFICATION PURPOSES ONLY, NOT A CITIZEN
OF THE UNITED STATES.


Now this is something I also agree on! If at least one parent is not a Citizen of the US, then the kids are not. Go thru the process and become a Citizen. If you have a kid before that, sorry bought that, shoulda been more careful!

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Message 587767 - Posted: 16 Jun 2007, 18:46:47 UTC - in response to Message 587657.  

What about illegal emigration?

As far as I know there are countries where Americans are not allowed to even travel to directly?


Yes there are, Cuba being a prime example. In order for US Citizen to travel to Cuba LEGALLY, you need permission for the US Government. To just do it, go to Canada and then to Cuba. Canada will give you a piece of paper that they will stamp, telling you that the piece of paper is now a permament part of your Passport. Upon your return from Cuba, to Canada, they will stamp it saying you are back in Canada. You then discard the paper and your Passport shows that you traveled to Canada and back, when you then return to the US.
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Message 587831 - Posted: 16 Jun 2007, 20:36:24 UTC - in response to Message 587448.  

Jeff, in this case, it's you with the reading comprehension problem.

I stand corrected... Carry on... ;)
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Message 588024 - Posted: 17 Jun 2007, 3:08:21 UTC - in response to Message 587159.  

Forget the long-running bipartisan concern about creating an educated, highly skilled workforce. What the U.S. economy desperately needs is more high-school dropouts — so desperately that we should import them hand over fist.


LOL! An educated, highly skilled work force to do the same crap jobs of 30 years ago instead of the types of jobs that have arisen since then and more in the future?

The National Research Council reports that an immigrant to the U.S. without a high-school diploma — whether legal or illegal — consumes $89,000 more in governmental services than he pays in taxes during his lifetime. An immigrant with only a high-school diploma is a net cost of $31,000. Forty percent of illegal immigrants have no more than a high-school degree, and 60 percent have less than a high-school degree.

Assuming that the NRC can be trusted, that the writer of this article can be trusted and that Wynde can be trusted to have not altered the article, then, yes, this refutes Carlos' claim.
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