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Wander Saito Send message Joined: 7 Jul 03 Posts: 555 Credit: 2,136,061 RAC: 0 
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I ran into some problems with this version while using it with SAH. Initially I downloaded and installed v5.8.0 to test the CPU usage limit parameter, to put back an old P3 that was suffering with overheating problems back into the game. After a week or so of testing, I heard that v5.8.3 was available and decided to give it a try, and the problems started: - although there was no message anywhere (stderr, stdout, Messages, etc) BOINC mgr was working in EDF mode, even though it was not overcommited or otherwise late to report; - after it finished processing a WU the task list stated the correct CPU usage time, but always something like "1.832%" in the completion column; - once reported back to servers, it claimed a incompatible number of credits (e.g. 10,000sec and 0.5 credits claimed), some examples: 458271218 and 458318178; - there was a problem with another WU but this seems to be a different case. BOINC Mgr was unable to finish the UL because it expected the result file to be bigger than it actually was. I was forced to abort the UL; I suspended both processing and network activities and downgraded back v5.8.0 and all problems seems to have subsided, but when the v5.8.0 first came online, it reported that the state file damaged. To ensure that I wasn't going to trash any other WU, I only allowed 1 WU to report back after the downgrade and waited to see if it would be validated. Now that it has, I opened the floodgates back again. Although the WUs claimed very little credit, they were validated and thanks to the quorum, they were granted the correct amount of credits :) but they could have disrupted it just as well if the results were turned in earlier. I know the version is supposed to be for development only, but since this problem occurred in two different machines I'd like to know if anybody else experienced something like that and if I should inform BOINC alpha about this. Regards, Wander Edit: for the record, I'm using Chicken's optimized app in both machines ID: 505678 ·  |
 Keith Send message Joined: 19 May 99 Posts: 483 Credit: 938,268 RAC: 0 
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Yes, Wander, I had similar problems last week using 5.8.2 and 5.8.3 on my Macs and immediately Suspended Network Activity and Suspended all Tasks that were Ready to Upload. It took until 1800hrs UTC 3 days later (when the "office" would just have been open for a while and the Server Status had been normalised that I Resumed Network Activity and Project/Update on my G4. That was OK and all the Results that had showed weird symptoms similar to your description (i.e. stopping at about 3% on Upload), now behaved normally. So I repeated this on the other Macs and all the Suspended Results were uploaded to the Server without exception!! This was a full quota of 3 days plus of crunching out of my 4.5 days cache of Work Units. And, at the same time, downloads replenished my caches completely. The problem was, I believe, due to random Upload/Download difficulties following the previous outage (as reported by SETI). I now make it a routine to Suspend Network Activity immediately there is a problem showing on Server Status until it is eventually resolved. Although I am using Macs with 5.8.3 and you are on Windows XP, I feel sure it was the Server Status that was temporarily to blame and not 5.8.3. I am using Alex Kan's optimised enhanced version of SETI and was pleasantly suprised that my crunching rate was more than doubled on all my computers. Keith ID: 505694 · |
mikey  Send message Joined: 17 Dec 99 Posts: 4215 Credit: 3,474,603 RAC: 0 
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I ran into some problems with this version while using it with SAH. You should ALWAYS report problems that you have with Development versions of the software. Also there are only a very few people running optimized versions AND development versions of the software. You should DEFINATELY tell them about your issues. 
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Wander Saito Send message Joined: 7 Jul 03 Posts: 555 Credit: 2,136,061 RAC: 0
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Yes, Wander, I had similar problems last week using 5.8.2 and 5.8.3 on my Macs and immediately Suspended Network Activity and Suspended all Tasks that were Ready to Upload. It took until 1800hrs UTC 3 days later (when the "office" would just have been open for a while and the Server Status had been normalised that I Resumed Network Activity and Project/Update on my G4. That was OK and all the Results that had showed weird symptoms similar to your description (i.e. stopping at about 3% on Upload), now behaved normally. So I repeated this on the other Macs and all the Suspended Results were uploaded to the Server without exception!! This was a full quota of 3 days plus of crunching out of my 4.5 days cache of Work Units. And, at the same time, downloads replenished my caches completely. Hi Keith, Although I agree the simptoms maybe similar, but these problems didn't appear during any outage. All this happened during the last 8hrs or so. Thanks for the input anyway. Regards, Wander ID: 505704 · |
W-K 666  Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19695 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67
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The new scheduler, by JM7, will crunch units in the deadline date order, within a project, especially if you have a several units in your cache. The problems I have, already reported to JM7, is that the estimated completion times either don't take into account the RDCF or after another look adjust them in the wrong direction. Andy ID: 505779 · |
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Wander Saito Send message Joined: 7 Jul 03 Posts: 555 Credit: 2,136,061 RAC: 0
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I ran into some problems with this version while using it with SAH. No problem mikey, I'll just forward this to Dr Anderson's mailbox. Thanks for the feedback. Regards, Wander ID: 505865 · |
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Wander Saito Send message Joined: 7 Jul 03 Posts: 555 Credit: 2,136,061 RAC: 0
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The new scheduler, by JM7, will crunch units in the deadline date order, within a project, especially if you have a several units in your cache. I saw the post about the new scheduler, but to completely honest I didn't read it through. Thanks for the info, Andy. I'll pay closer attention to execution order chosen by the scheduler and report any problems. Regards, Wander ID: 505866 · |
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mikey Send message Joined: 17 Dec 99 Posts: 4215 Credit: 3,474,603 RAC: 0
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I ran into some problems with this version while using it with SAH. I am not sure he is the right person, but he will probably forward it on. There is a whole Beta website http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/ that you can log into and report your findings too.
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Wander Saito Send message Joined: 7 Jul 03 Posts: 555 Credit: 2,136,061 RAC: 0
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I ran into some problems with this version while using it with SAH. Actually I consulted the BOINC Alpha site since this doesn't seem to be SAH issue, but I guess is not a bad idea to post something for SAH Beta as well. ID: 506043 · |
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mikey Send message Joined: 17 Dec 99 Posts: 4215 Credit: 3,474,603 RAC: 0
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I am not sure he is the right person, but he will probably forward it on. There is a whole Beta website http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/ that you can log into and report your findings too. The Beta site seems to be much more recently used. I found some places where the last message was 60, 80 and over 100 days ago on the Alpha site.
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Josef W. Segur Send message Joined: 30 Oct 99 Posts: 4504 Credit: 1,414,761 RAC: 0
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I am not sure he is the right person, but he will probably forward it on. There is a whole Beta website http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/ that you can log into and report your findings too. The boinc_alpha mailing list is very active, it's the primary communication channel for those testing alpha versions of BOINC. The Seti Beta/AstroPulse project is for developing new science application versions, rather than BOINC. Joe ID: 506140 · |
Fuzzy Hollynoodles  Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
The BOINC message board is http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/ You have to sign up there to post, but all can read. Problems about the different BOINC apps should be reported there. Thank you for your help. "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me 
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Astro  Send message Joined: 16 Apr 02 Posts: 8026 Credit: 600,015 RAC: 0 |
Fuzzy, that's the Dev Mail list, to get the Alpha mail list change the /dev/ to /alpha/. ID: 506168 · |
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Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
Fuzzy, that's the Dev Mail list, to get the Alpha mail list change the /dev/ to /alpha/. No, it's the BOINC board, and it's the right place to report bugs in the different BOINC apps. "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me
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Astro Send message Joined: 16 Apr 02 Posts: 8026 Credit: 600,015 RAC: 0 |
ooops, must learn to lean forward and squint more when reading. I thought that was a dev mail list link. sorry, yeah, what fuzzy said. ID: 506192 · |
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Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
ooops, must learn to lean forward and squint more when reading. I thought that was a dev mail list link. :-D "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me
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Oeyvind Lasse Hoeysaeter  Send message Joined: 3 Jun 99 Posts: 19 Credit: 1,322,214 RAC: 0 
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Fuzzy, that's the Dev Mail list, to get the Alpha mail list change the /dev/ to /alpha/. I can't find alpha in my /dev/ -- Øyvind 
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Astro Send message Joined: 16 Apr 02 Posts: 8026 Credit: 600,015 RAC: 0 |
Fuzzy, I just noticed a moderator tag under your name. Congrats, (if that's what yor want). Is everyone a MOD now?? I'll have to pop my head into the cafe and see what's happening. ID: 506223 · |
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Wander Saito Send message Joined: 7 Jul 03 Posts: 555 Credit: 2,136,061 RAC: 0
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ooops, must learn to lean forward and squint more when reading. I thought that was a dev mail list link. I took your suggestion and posted at that forum as well. Thanks! Regards, Wander ID: 506248 · |
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Wander Saito Send message Joined: 7 Jul 03 Posts: 555 Credit: 2,136,061 RAC: 0
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Fuzzy, that's the Dev Mail list, to get the Alpha mail list change the /dev/ to /alpha/. If you mean the BOINC Alpha site this here's the link: http://isaac.ssl.berkeley.edu/alpha/ Regards, Wander ID: 506249 · |
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