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Optimized Clients??
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Yamanipanuchi Send message Joined: 18 May 00 Posts: 87 Credit: 10,646,074 RAC: 0 |
I've so far tried 2 diffrent optimized clients, on 4 diffrent PC's. I unfortunatly have seen no improovment in processing. I can confirm both in boincview, and at command line that the the correct application is being used. I've tried it on a PIII 700, PII 400(Dual), P4 1.8, P-D 3.4. I no noticable change in MFIO's or in overall time it takes to process the file. I guess the question im asking is... Is this normal? Or should I see a noticable jump in measurable speed? |
KWSN - Chicken of Angnor Send message Joined: 9 Jul 99 Posts: 1199 Credit: 6,615,780 RAC: 0 |
Hi, I checked your P-D 3.4 GHz, and it is indeed using an optimized app. However, I also saw it is using calibration to adjust the CPU times, which is probably why you're not noticing much. Please turn off calibration for S@H or use the default BOINC client to make your result stats accurately represent what you crunch :o) HTH, Simon. Donate to SETI@Home via PayPal! Optimized SETI@Home apps + Information |
Alinator Send message Joined: 19 Apr 05 Posts: 4178 Credit: 4,647,982 RAC: 0 |
I took a look at the older ones and the last result reported for all of them seems to indicate they ran it with the stock app for some reason. FWIW, I got about a 20-25 % improvement with both the MMX and SSE apps on PII/K6-x and PIII class machines. Also, I thought you said you were going to turned calibrate off on your PD. ;-) Alinator |
Odysseus Send message Joined: 26 Jul 99 Posts: 1808 Credit: 6,701,347 RAC: 6 |
I've so far tried 2 diffrent optimized clients, on 4 diffrent PC's. I unfortunatly have seen no improovment in processing. Optimized clients make next to no difference in CPU times, which are almost entirely dependent on the science applications. On my Macs, even when BOINC Manager is open it uses only about 2% of the CPU, while the app(s) running under it get over 95% (subject to whatever else I may be doing at the time). That suggests that there’s very little to be gained by streamlining it. (BTW, I’ve noticed that BM uses around 2.5% when it’s on the Tasks pane, or the Projects pane while a ‘countdown’ is in progress, but less than 1.5% when on the other panes.) Aside from extra control & monitoring features it may have, an optimized BOINC version is usually intended primarily to adjust credit claims, by altering either benchmark scores or reported processing times. This has little effect in projects like S@h and Einstein@home (actually none thereâ€â€they determine credit server-side), whose crediting procedures are being weaned away from the default time-&-benchmark computation. |
Yamanipanuchi Send message Joined: 18 May 00 Posts: 87 Credit: 10,646,074 RAC: 0 |
calibration for S@H I've never seen this feature, or didnt know I set it. How would I go about shutting it off? What numbers do any of you use to compare the Optimzed to normal? CPU times can always vary. So I not sure where the good measurement would be? |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14653 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
calibration for S@H You're running Trux's version of BOINC, same as me. Look for the file 'truxoft_prefs.xml' in the BOINC directory (not any project sub-folder) Open the file for editing (notepad will do). Look for the calibration line, and edit it to read:
Save changes, close and restart BOINC. |
IHTIMAN SETI TEAM Send message Joined: 8 Dec 01 Posts: 109 Credit: 1,532,174 RAC: 0 |
From where i can download a optimized BOINC app ? :) Dell XPS L702x smokin' weed and searching for aliens .... ;] TRUSTNO1 |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14653 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
From where i can download a optimized BOINC app ? :) You can download optimised SETI apps from here. You can't - or at least shouldn't - download optimised BOINC clients: mine is left over from a long time ago, and isn't really any use now (I'm just fond of the devil I know....) [edit - typo: contradicted myself!] |
SETI User Send message Joined: 29 Jun 02 Posts: 369 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
From where i can download a optimized BOINC app ? :) @ Yamanipanuchi too When you want to do more WUs in the same time -> optimized S@H applications! Boinc- clients S@H applications Greetings! |
IHTIMAN SETI TEAM Send message Joined: 8 Dec 01 Posts: 109 Credit: 1,532,174 RAC: 0 |
Thanks , your are realy fast :))) I must use the Calibrated app or .... ? Dell XPS L702x smokin' weed and searching for aliens .... ;] TRUSTNO1 |
SETI User Send message Joined: 29 Jun 02 Posts: 369 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
Thanks , your are realy fast :))) I must use the Calibrated app or .... ? I use Boinc V5.3.12.tx36 ! But you know, that your speed of crunching will not change with an other Boinc- client... ...you will have only more service or functions... You will have more speed only with optimized S@H applications! |
IHTIMAN SETI TEAM Send message Joined: 8 Dec 01 Posts: 109 Credit: 1,532,174 RAC: 0 |
I download it , put it in my boinc dir , and now the boinc manager dont start .... Some error with some librarys .... Dell XPS L702x smokin' weed and searching for aliens .... ;] TRUSTNO1 |
SETI User Send message Joined: 29 Jun 02 Posts: 369 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
I download it , put it in my boinc dir , and now the boinc manager dont start .... Some error with some librarys .... Before you copy the unpacked files in the Boinc folder you must copy your Boinc folder... Close/ exit Boinc... Then copy the unpacked files in the Boinc folder... Restart Boinc... I had done the "update" on my (original Berkeley) Boinc V5.2.13... You cannot use Trux Boinc files (client) on a higher/ later client as V5.3.12 ! I think you can use latest only the original V5.2.13 for the Trux- update... |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14653 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
You cannot use Trux Boinc files (client) on a higher/ later client as V5.3.12 ! Well, you can - I did it last week on a machine that's only crunching Einstein, none of the ones you can see here - but I don't see why you should - and you certainly shouldn't rush into doing it without pausing to understand what you're doing and why you're doing it. |
zombie67 [MM] Send message Joined: 22 Apr 04 Posts: 758 Credit: 27,771,894 RAC: 0 |
In windows, how do you tell what your processor supports (MMX/SSE/SSE2/SSE3)? |
Astro Send message Joined: 16 Apr 02 Posts: 8026 Credit: 600,015 RAC: 0 |
CPUZ will tell you. |
Yamanipanuchi Send message Joined: 18 May 00 Posts: 87 Credit: 10,646,074 RAC: 0 |
I honestly completely forgot I was using Truxsoft. I just removed it. But unfortunatly now Im geting a slower speed reported. TruxSoft had a command for CPU Affinity, I seems to get more more performance? Or was that just me? zombie67 CPU-Z is a GREAT program for checking what type of processor you have. |
zombie67 [MM] Send message Joined: 22 Apr 04 Posts: 758 Credit: 27,771,894 RAC: 0 |
Thanks. I see that there is also a program at lunatics.at that will also tell you a lot about your processors. |
SETI User Send message Joined: 29 Jun 02 Posts: 369 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
You cannot use Trux Boinc files (client) on a higher/ later client as V5.3.12 ! @ Richard Haselgrove Thanks for your friendly contribution in this thread! And which is the latest Boinc Version you can supplement with the Trux- files? So that I can learn something here... |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14653 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
And which is the latest Boinc Version you can supplement with the Trux- files? This machine is the one I was describing - attached 2 October 2006: I used the currently recommended BOINC 5.4.11 to do the initial install. I'm expecting a couple of Core 2s next week, which I may get a chance to 'burn in' for the client over next weekend - I'll see if the same trick works for alpha 5.6.5 (since they won't be permanent crunchers, alas), and report back. |
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