One of my hosts (still) runs Windows 98SE. I understood somewhere on the forum that the 5.15 science app had one important fix for Windows 98 (presume also 98SE), so I have not installed the optimized enahnced version. Looking at the speed difference the optimised makes on my other hosts, I am having second thoughts. Any advice on running the (5.12-based) optimised science app on Win 98SE?

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I'd say go ahead and do it.

The one I have Cruncher's app on seems to run fine with it.

IIRC, if you check the BOINC exe process and you have three threads going you're fine.

Alinator

I'd say go ahead and do it.

The one I have Cruncher's app on seems to run fine with it.

IIRC, if you check the BOINC exe process and you have three threads going you're fine.

Alinator

Running OK here on Windows98SE and WindowsME

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Running OK here on Windows98SE and WindowsME

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Mike-

I have Windows ME 933mgz and just started doing enhanced with 5.4.9.

Is the 5.12 w/crunchers app making a “REAL” difference in your times on your ME computer?

I read a thread where the optimization was not that great because Enhanced is already optimized?

I looked at some of your times on your ME computer and they where not that far off from mine. Although, I don’t know how I could “exactly” compare them since your WU’s and mine where different.

Just wondering...thanks

Running OK here on Windows98SE and WindowsME

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Mike-

I have Windows ME 933mgz and just started doing enhanced with 5.4.9.

Is the 5.12 w/crunchers app making a “REAL” difference in your times on your ME computer?

I read a thread where the optimization was not that great because Enhanced is already optimized?

I looked at some of your times on your ME computer and they where not that far off from mine. Although, I don’t know how I could “exactly” compare them since your WU’s and mine where different.

Just wondering...thanks

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Hi,
th optimized app is at least 20 % faster than the stock app. depending on the Angle Range of the WU it can be 45 % faster than the stock application. overall i would guess it's 30 to 35 % faster than the stock app.

Another gimmick is that it doesn't crash with c++ exeptions... it the only one that works ;)

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Uh, guys, a little help here please? I'm the doofus that downloaded Crunch3r's 5.12 SSE2 for my PIII1000. Ha (not). I did this yesterday.

Today BOINC actually got around to processing the first of the 5 new 5.19 (or so it thought) WU's that were downloaded yesterday, and within 24 seconds all were in the crapper with computation errors. So BOINC immediately downloaded 3 new WU's and then went into earliest deadline first mode, because before doing that it actually downloaded 2 SixTrack LHC WU's (which it claims are going to run approx 26 hrs eaches) - which is actually pretty cool because LHC WU's are actually hard to come by (so I'm quite happy when I get one - in 1.75 hours 14.7% if the first LHC WU has been processed.

Anyways, to my chagrin I discovered my error concerning the SSE version of Crunch3r's optimized enhanced SETI client. Easily enough rectifiable, eh? Not. To my horror, I discover that Crunch3r is presently in a wee bit o' funk right now, because a few people I guess were if not at least rude, they were pretty mean to him. And so his web-site has a big big big bird being flashed at everybody. I eMailed Crunch3r a whole 35 minutes ago (at least that much) - explaining my predicament (with no small amount of sobbing on the carpet may I add) - and he's still not responded.

So can you guys maybe help me out getting my hands on the Crunch3r optimized 5.12 SSE Windows client? PLEASE? Pretty please? Don't make me resort to begging. My embarassment threshhold is microscopically miniscule, so I'm begging you not to force me to resort to begging.

One of my hosts (still) runs Windows 98SE. I understood somewhere on the forum that the 5.15 science app had one important fix for Windows 98 (presume also 98SE), so I have not installed the optimized enahnced version. Looking at the speed difference the optimised makes on my other hosts, I am having second thoughts. Any advice on running the (5.12-based) optimised science app on Win 98SE?

Go for it. Crunch3r's optimised 5.12 doesn't suffer from the timer problems of the stock applications. I'm using his MMX build on a Pentium 200 MHz Win95 system and his SSE2 build on a P4 1.6 GHz Win98SE with no problems seen.

You don't have a Beta Test setiathome_enhanced, so you'll be able to use a simple app_info.xml:
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<app_info>
<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>setiathome_5.12_windows_intelx86.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>512</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>setiathome_5.12_windows_intelx86.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>
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                                                      Joe

to > Professor_Ray

we are talkn bout the same crunch3r right?

http://calbe.dw70.de/

looks fine to me :)

edit: scratch that. i didnt read the news section. DOH!

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"Pain dosen't hurt, when it's all you have ever felt"

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=30606#322928

The salient point is the time of that post.

Something is seriously awry here.

I'm not going to get involved.

Been there, done that.

Falcon4.

All you guys take yourselves way too seriously. Life is way too short for this kind of crap.

Running OK here on Windows98SE and WindowsME

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Mike-

I have Windows ME 933mgz and just started doing enhanced with 5.4.9.

Is the 5.12 w/crunchers app making a “REAL” difference in your times on your ME computer?

I read a thread where the optimization was not that great because Enhanced is already optimized?

I looked at some of your times on your ME computer and they where not that far off from mine. Although, I don’t know how I could “exactly” compare them since your WU’s and mine where different.

Just wondering...thanks

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I just started using three of his versions MMX, SSE, SSE2 on
my windows98se, windowsme, windowsxp home, windowsxp pro and windows2003 systems. My Linux boxes are next.
No problems so far.
A lot of my computers are very slow and older.
Celeron, P-I, P-II, P-III.
I did have to make the changes to the app_info.xml
As you say it is hard to tell, having also just switched to enhanced.
I was watching mostly to see if when my systems had an error, that others had the same error on that work unit and it was not my computer.
I'll take a closer look.

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Mike,

Out of curiosity, what's the clock speed for your P-III host # 2008988?

Alinator

Mike,

Out of curiosity, what's the clock speed for your P-III host # 2008988?

Alinator

650MHz 160MB RAM
Compaq Deskpro

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Cool, thanks!

Now I have one to compare to my Dell Dimension (P-III 550MHz Katmai, 384MB RAM) with, or at least in the same ballpark. :-)

It's Host ID # 2123744.

Alinator

Professor,

I am running Crunch3r's 5.12 SSE app on my Athlon and Duron systems. I lucked out and downloaded it just before his site was taken down. I really hate all this crap happening at once. My avg credit has been in a downward spiral since they came out with "enhanced", since my old program choked. I have the proper files and app_info.xml, which seems to be taking off, finally.

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Btw, I forgot, LOL. My email and info can be found @ http://www.rclarksworld.com.

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Cool, thanks!

Now I have one to compare to my Dell Dimension (P-III 550MHz Katmai, 384MB RAM) with, or at least in the same ballpark. :-)

It's Host ID # 2123744.

Alinator

I have a lot of compaq here.
Will check my others.
You want something in that CPU range to compare or just windows98/ME?

Off to the local Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper release meeting.
Maybe I will switch more of my older computers to linux.

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Cool, thanks!

Now I have one to compare to my Dell Dimension (P-III 550MHz Katmai, 384MB RAM) with, or at least in the same ballpark. :-)

It's Host ID # 2123744.

Alinator

Hi Alinator,
Check mine if you want another one to compare with. It's a p3 500mhz with 328meg ram running Linux, slackware 10.2.

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Jim

Some people plan their life out and look back at the wealth they've had.
Others live life day by day and look back at the wealth of experiences and enjoyment they've had.

Btw, I forgot, LOL. My email and info can be found @ http://www.rclarksworld.com.

Mine is also at the web site in my sig.

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Thanks for the positive advice, ........... but it seems my question has been overtaken by events with crunch3r's site off the air. Well I guess that I'll continue that host (maybe more) on Einstein, which with the current optimised science apps completes a WU in a few hours to max 6-7 or so, which is still manegeable for a PC that is not often on.

The few seti enhanced WU's I crunched (non-optimised) took a bit too long for my liking (risk of exceeding deadlines).

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Thanks for the positive advice, ........... but it seems my question has been overtaken by events with crunch3r's site off the air. Well I guess that I'll continue that host (maybe more) on Einstein, which with the current optimised science apps completes a WU in a few hours to max 6-7 or so, which is still manegeable for a PC that is not often on.

The few seti enhanced WU's I crunched (non-optimised) took a bit too long for my liking (risk of exceeding deadlines).

Yep, that really is the issue for the "Clock Speed Impaired" cruncher. SE can take so long to run on them that unless they are on all the time they have trouble making the deadline.

In my case my old timers are doing backoffice duties of one kind or another and are on 24/7/365 (except for maintenance) and have plenty of time to chew on them.

Alinator