I for one am leaving and moving my machines to Predictor. I've been a Seti member for a long time but enough is enough. I dont care if points are being awarded or not I'm sick of the treatment being dealt out by the Seti team to its major sponsors.

Thats you and me. We are the ones who make the project possible. Without us it dies. I dont even really care about the outages but I want somebody at Seti to have the courtesy to tell us whats going on in a profesional and regular way.

I know the folks at predictor have a much lower server load etc etc but they at least post updates regularly which are detailed enough to get a feel for whats really going on behind the scenes. The whole feel of that project is just so much better.

To those of you who believe that this is a"about the science" then I think you need to wake up. For some it is and thats fine but for others they want scores and competition. Like it or not I suspect they are in the majority and they do demand the scores. Why not? After all its Seti who invented the awarding of points to hook people in. If its really about the science we dont need any scoring method, screen saver, message boards, web site (apart from to form accounts) etc. See how many people distributed computing then attracts.

To those who will say "great more WU's for me" I would say in another breath that your also say that work units are being recycled due to lack of work. Fine, if you want to be foolish enough to stay and just crunch the odd new unit amongst a sea of old ones then blindly continue.

I'm sorry Seti team but you are handling this in a completely unprofesional way. If I was the responsible for the image of UCI Berkely I would want my name off the bottom of your web pages and I think your so called major sponsors should start to think twice as well.

Goodbye Seti.

When you get there, you are welcome to join (Team) USA. We would love to have you!

yep that is if the reg. page is working lol
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You see, I would put more BOINC projects on my computer but, none are accepting people right now. I have to wait another 2 days for the climate one to go live. Then my processore will have some work to do

Oh, and on a more personal note, I am truly in these projects for the science. The credits thing is just fun and I can do without it if need be. I actually plan on joining both the predictor and the climate projects along with seti. As I said, so long as my processor is working for science I don't care what it is.

> Oh, and on a more personal note, I am truly in these projects for the science.

I'm sorry if my original post made it look like I was bashing those who are in it just for the science. That was not my intention. I just believe that we all have different motivations for giving our resources to the project. For me all reasons are equally valid. On other threads it is clear that some of the "just for science" brigade feel that their motives are somehow more desrving than those who are in just for the competition element.

I'm in it to supply worthwile scientific data to a project. The scores are interesting and I do look at them however if no points were awarded I would continue. I just cant carry on with Seti. I'm not sure the data is wanted or needed when WU's are being recrunched just to fill BOINC caches. If we are not needed thats fine. Seti should tell us so and we can work for other projects. I'm not suggesting the other projects are more deserving only that they are at least crunching virgin data (to the best of my knowledge).

I simply jusrt cannot comprehend what the dev team is doing. They complain about too many users, high work load etc etc whilst still accepting new users and actively encouraging people to swap with a message on the classic site. I'm sorry but if that isnt stupidity I dont know what is.

Enough- time to stop typing....

> > Oh, and on a more personal note, I am truly in these projects for the
> science.
>
> I'm sorry if my original post made it look like I was bashing those who are in
> it just for the science. That was not my intention. I just believe that we all
> have different motivations for giving our resources to the project. For me all
> reasons are equally valid. On other threads it is clear that some of the "just
> for science" brigade feel that their motives are somehow more desrving than
> those who are in just for the competition element.
>
> I'm in it to supply worthwile scientific data to a project. The scores are
> interesting and I do look at them however if no points were awarded I would
> continue. I just cant carry on with Seti. I'm not sure the data is wanted or
> needed when WU's are being recrunched just to fill BOINC caches. If we are not
> needed thats fine. Seti should tell us so and we can work for other projects.
> I'm not suggesting the other projects are more deserving only that they are at
> least crunching virgin data (to the best of my knowledge).
>
The work in S@H classic is re-crunching data over and over. S@H BOINC will crunch each result 3 times, with the rare possibility of up to 3 more if things work out exactly wrong. I would hardly call this filling the queues with useless data to keep the BOINC queues full. When S@H does not have any new work to hand out, everyone gets a no work from project message.

Bye do not let the door hit you in the A** as you leave. You were crunching the same WUWUs over and over again at classic so I guess you are the same as us opppss no you are leaving.....

Understand, whats to understand, it is broken, they are looking it over, they will fix it .... It works....... I am becoming a troll I think or at best a crank oldman, yeah thats it.

This 'SPACE' for Rent.

M7

It's too bad we can't harness the "computing power" spent complaining (and counter-complaining) because it has to exceed the available computing horsepower for the actual computers.

Seriously folks, life is too short to get this upset about anything.

well Neil Russell, I'm sorry to see yet another member leave. I know it's been fustrating and such, and most of your points are valid about the problems we've been having.

Good luck on your other BOINCing adventures, and perhaps maybe you could try back here after a few months? maybe then things will be in better working order again.

:(

-Fox
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> I actually
> plan on joining both the predictor and the climate projects along with seti.
> As I said, so long as my processor is working for science I don't care what it
> is.

Just remember that you won't be running both on the same computer - cpdn will need to run on the boinc 4.x client which won't work with predictor or seti at the moment.
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> Just remember that you won't be running both on the same computer - cpdn will
> need to run on the boinc 4.x client which won't work with predictor or seti at
> the moment.

Beat me to it. :-)

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