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Message 168557 - Posted: 16 Sep 2005, 21:18:01 UTC
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Surely we can help Rosetta@home past 5000 users.


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Message 168565 - Posted: 16 Sep 2005, 21:27:56 UTC

What's the difference between Predictor and Rosetta? They seem awful alike to me. :)

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Message 168573 - Posted: 16 Sep 2005, 22:07:00 UTC - in response to Message 168565.  

What's the difference between Predictor and Rosetta? They seem awful alike to me. :)



from David Kim at Rosetta@home.
"There are a number of distributed computing projects like this one, with the goal of predicting protein structures given an amino acid sequence. In fact, there is a very large effort that is using our software, Rosetta, as the core application (the Human Proteome Folding Project). All of the projects will benefit our understanding of protein folding and application to biology and medicine. Our project is similar to Predictor@home, in that we are trying to improve our methods by conducting research that is only possible with the computing power that a grid computing project can provide."

not much difference from Predictor@home...
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Message 168575 - Posted: 16 Sep 2005, 22:11:29 UTC - in response to Message 168565.  

What's the difference between Predictor and Rosetta? They seem awful alike to me. :)



I'm quoting David Kim@Rosetta: "There are a number of distributed computing projects like this one, with the goal of predicting protein structures given an amino acid sequence. In fact, there is a very large effort that is using our software, Rosetta, as the core application (the Human Proteome Folding Project). All of the projects will benefit our understanding of protein folding and application to biology and medicine. Our project is similar to Predictor@home, in that we are trying to improve our methods by conducting research that is only possible with the computing power that a grid computing project can provide."

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Message 168577 - Posted: 16 Sep 2005, 22:19:15 UTC

In something like this, you probably need a lot of redundancy by independent researchers so that if something is found, it can be verified as such from other groups as well. I'm sure there is some competition as well to be the first to make a discovery but the redundancy here is probably a good thing.


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Message 168586 - Posted: 16 Sep 2005, 22:38:04 UTC - in response to Message 168577.  

In something like this, you probably need a lot of redundancy by independent researchers so that if something is found, it can be verified as such from other groups as well. I'm sure there is some competition as well to be the first to make a discovery but the redundancy here is probably a good thing.


huh?

huh?

huh?

(Martin types faster than me) .o0(and I had 2 years of typing in high school!)

David has more informational links he posted in the message boards there.
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Message 168591 - Posted: 16 Sep 2005, 22:43:56 UTC - in response to Message 168586.  
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(Martin types faster than me) .o0(and I had 2 years of typing in high school!)

David has more informational links he posted in the message boards there.


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here a hint, highlight what u what, right click, copy, go to where u want to put text, right click, paste. That how i can type faster... I love shortcuts..
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Message 168594 - Posted: 16 Sep 2005, 22:57:56 UTC - in response to Message 168591.  

Mr. Kajunfisher
here a hint, highlight what u what, right click, copy, go to where u want to put text, right click, paste. That how i can type faster... I love shortcuts..


:-) I did that, I think what slowed me down was making my link...
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Message 168596 - Posted: 16 Sep 2005, 22:59:36 UTC - in response to Message 168586.  

In something like this, you probably need a lot of redundancy by independent researchers so that if something is found, it can be verified as such from other groups as well. I'm sure there is some competition as well to be the first to make a discovery but the redundancy here is probably a good thing.


huh?

huh?

huh?


What's so hard to understand???


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Message 168598 - Posted: 16 Sep 2005, 23:05:32 UTC

Thanks for the clarification, Martin and Kajunfisher. I'm somewhat puzzled still, but I'll read up about this and in the end I'll probably get it. LOL!

But the project I wait for (and reserve my computer powers for) is PlanetQuest... maybe I'll later also join Orbit - if I have a computer to spare. :)

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Message 168634 - Posted: 17 Sep 2005, 0:23:07 UTC
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Here some more information from Baker Labs:

Both projects are similar in that both are trying to improve methods for protein structure prediction. Rosetta@home includes protein design and prediction of complexes. Rosetta@home uses a software package called Rosetta, which has been proven to be one of the best methods out there for protein structure prediction in repeated CASP experiments (See our About page). Rosetta is also being used for the Human Proteome Folding Project, which is trying to predict folds for many proteins in the human genome. While they, in collaboration with us, are applying Rosetta to the human genome and other genomes like malaria (P falciparum), we are trying to conduct research to make it better. David Baker's work has been published in today's issue of Science. It is exciting work. Thank you for your interest in helping our and similar projects, like Predictor@home!!!

Difference may be software called Rosetta, i dont know... o well LOL !!
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Message 168635 - Posted: 17 Sep 2005, 0:25:17 UTC - in response to Message 168594.  
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:-) I did that, I think what slowed me down was making my link...

If you're a Firefox user, the Make Link extension makes linking easy. Simply right click on the page you wish to link to, select the type of link you wish (HTML, BBCode, Custom, etc...) and then paste the link in the text field. It even adds the page name as the link text, so you often don't even need to name the link.

Edit:Hmmm... that's odd... Anyone know why the forum adds an additional http:// to the front of a secure link? It basically breaks the link. http://https:// isn't happy. So I edited the link to read as http://, but it still takes you to the secure link.

Strange forum behavior...

Check it out. Make Link. Mouseover the link to see the additional http://, but hit reply to this post and see that the link format is indeed correct.
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Message 168637 - Posted: 17 Sep 2005, 0:33:47 UTC - in response to Message 168635.  

:-) I did that, I think what slowed me down was making my link...

If you're a Firefox user, the Make Link extension makes linking easy. Simply right click on the page you wish to link to, select the type of link you wish (HTML, BBCode, Custom, etc...) and then paste the link in the text field. It even adds the page name as the link text, so you often don't even need to name the link.



Thanks Heffed, I'm using the BBCode Extension in FireFox. I'll check that out too. The reason it took so long was that I'm just tired and couldn't see the keys well enough with the light from the monitor. ;-)
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Message 168644 - Posted: 17 Sep 2005, 0:48:13 UTC - in response to Message 168637.  

Thanks Heffed, I'm using the BBCode Extension in FireFox.

I also have the BBCode Extra extension, but Make Link is much quicker for linking. It saves a few steps over the BBCode extension.

With BBCode you need to select the menu, (and most likely the submenu if you want the URL with name option) then type or copy/past the link name, and type or copy/paste the URL.

With Make link, you only have to right click on the page, select the link type, then paste it. You may need to edit the link name, but that's still quicker than typing it. :)
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Message 168664 - Posted: 17 Sep 2005, 1:25:55 UTC - in response to Message 168644.  

Thanks Heffed, I'm using the BBCode Extension in FireFox.

I also have the BBCode Extra extension, but Make Link is much quicker for linking. It saves a few steps over the BBCode extension.

With BBCode you need to select the menu, (and most likely the submenu if you want the URL with name option) then type or copy/past the link name, and type or copy/paste the URL.

With Make link, you only have to right click on the page, select the link type, then paste it. You may need to edit the link name, but that's still quicker than typing it. :)


I see what you mean now, (bbcodextra) it's a little more than what I had. Make Link looks pretty easy. Thanks again :-)
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Message 168771 - Posted: 17 Sep 2005, 9:57:55 UTC - in response to Message 168634.  

Difference may be software called Rosetta, i dont know... o well LOL !!

Yeah.. I wonder if the name has anything to do with how the Rosetta stone was translated? I mean, the idea that you go from something known and familar, to decipher the unknown... I don't know, but the name can't be just coincidence.

Anyway, thanks for the link to Bakers Labs.

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