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[B@H] Ray Send message Joined: 1 Sep 00 Posts: 485 Credit: 45,275 RAC: 0 |
WTV count is down to 425K. XML stat's were released to other Stat's sites, looks like the end of outage is in site. Now for the mad rush on Monday? I can skip tomarrow, work not due till Sept. 5 so I can let the rest of you in. But can I barrow some of the credit you will get before me? Pizza@Home Rays Place Rays place Forums |
Dorsal Send message Joined: 18 Mar 03 Posts: 5 Credit: 70,723 RAC: 0 |
Since it's taken nearly 24 hours to validate 400K of files, it seems to be no small surprise the validation process is falling behind. Is there really any hope that keeping the "delete" files queue down will make a significant performance difference in the future? What is the guesstimate of the number of files that will get dumped into the WTV queue as soon as the system is allowed to come back up? "The wind is the perfect reminder of God.Dorsal |
Pooh Bear 27 Send message Joined: 14 Jul 03 Posts: 3224 Credit: 4,603,826 RAC: 0 |
The validator has been going faster and faster per hour, after it got down a ways. Less files to check, less lookups, etc. are speeding it up. Looks like it will finish sometime in the middle of the night, before Berkeley people even show up for work. My movie https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/502242 |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
Since it's taken nearly 24 hours to validate 400K of files, it seems to be no small surprise the validation process is falling behind. We need to be careful to not get too optimistic. Once the WFV queue reaches zero, all of that work still needs to transition, assimilate, and then finally be deleted. My guess is that we're about half way when WFV hits zero, unless they decide to go back to deleting for a while before we hit zero, then run the validators/transitioners/assimilators/deleters to finish. I can argue this both ways. I don't have an answer. When the project starts back up, there will be at least three million fewer files floating around, probably more, and that should help things a whole lot. |
dagotto Send message Joined: 24 Jun 99 Posts: 18 Credit: 76,209 RAC: 0 |
So, bottom line when do you think normal upload/download will resume ? Regards from Buenos Aires Andres |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
So, bottom line when do you think normal upload/download will resume ? I'm guessing (a lot) and I'm not part of the project, so take these comments in the spirit they are offered. I think they'll try to turn the project back on late tomorrow -- around 0000 UTC. I think the project servers will be heavily loaded until Thursday or so. I think things will have settled down a lot by Friday. That doesn't mean that we won't be getting work all week, just that we have to get through the crush before things are really normal. |
Timcom99 Send message Joined: 30 Sep 04 Posts: 105 Credit: 8,927,290 RAC: 0 |
Right now I would turn Everything back On except for the Splitters. Send out those 280,000 Work Units ready to send Last. Allow people to Upload all their Completed Work First. By Monday Morning the Whole thing will be Cleaned up, Validated and everything. |
[B@H] Ray Send message Joined: 1 Sep 00 Posts: 485 Credit: 45,275 RAC: 0 |
Right now I would turn Everything back On except for the Splitters. Send out those 280,000 Work Units ready to send Last. Allow people to Upload all their Completed Work First. By Monday Morning the Whole thing will be Cleaned up, Validated and everything. I think it would take a bit longer, but that is only my opinion. The following would be good when they are ready to come back online. -------------------------------------------------- 1) Only those with units ready to hit there deadline were returned 1st day. 2) People running other programs waited 1 to 3 days to return to SETI. 3) Anything other users can think of to make going back online easier. --------------------------------------------------- Will not happen bacause 1)But we all know that things like that will never happen, most will join the rush to return units. 2) Boinc will not let you hold SETI and return other programs files. Even if you have the SETI program Suspended BOINC will try anr return what is finished. -------------------------------------------------- Because of #2 I have the network connection turned off, only turn if on when I have something to return. I have nothing that is due before Sept. 1 so when SETI comes back up I can leave the network connection turned off. If others who do not have to beat a deadline do the same it will make the return to normal easier for all. LHC and CPDN can keep my system busy with nothing due until Sept. 5 (Except 2 Predictor units due Sept. 2). Pizza@Home Rays Place Rays place Forums |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
2) Boinc will not let you hold SETI and return other programs files. Even if you have the SETI program Suspended BOINC will try anr return what is finished. If you really wanted to do this, you could find your hosts file (or hosts.sam) and put "setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu" in the file with an address of 127.0.0.2. Not that I think it'd matter that much. Remember to take it out later. |
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