Back in the good old days of the cool SETI@home 1, with the black background and purple text, as opposed to this God-awful, garish white crap, one could go to http://www.setinetherlands.com and download a package that would install the CLI, SETI Driver, and SETI Spy with a minimum of fuss. Yet Berkeley took the position, symptomatic of today's pervasive culture of "I didn't do it!" and "Don't look at me!," of making sure the "Don't use software not approved by Berkeley" disclaimer was always front and center.

Instead, why not co-operate with Europeans (in this case the Dutch specifically), who almost always produce actually working applications originally produced in the United States, long before the likes of Microsoft, for instance, can move a single bug report through its maze of bureaucracy to a simple code rewriting.

Do I see anything approaching the logically-laid-out website Setinetherlands has, Stateside? No. When I need a tool or plug-in, I go to Setinetherlands, Berkeley's warnings be damned. I don't need the help of a team of American computer engineers when I can go to a handy site over the pond and get the job done in a few minutes.

How about starting off on the right foot with the new incarnation of SETI, and co-operating with the cats at Setinetherlands this time around? How about putting up their new BOINC tools on the Berkeley sites, rather than disavowing them?

We've resigned ourselves to the stupendously ugly visual experience of the new animal's GUI, sites in general, and message boards. At least give us something that's halfway user-friendly.

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my answer from wish list dup post.

Wow!! what a friendly attitude you should get a job in your countries diplomacy department, NOT!!

Because I am overwhelmed by your friendliness I am giving you this link:

Boinc addons and plugins

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Semper Eadem
So long Paul, it has been a hell of a ride.

Park your ego's, fire up the computers, Science YES, Credits No.

[font='fixedsys,courier']Cooperation means double the effort in maintaining twice as many programs. I think that the Devs have enough on their hands as it is.

Besides, purple-on-black and blue-on-black are very difficult to read, like white-on-yellow.

2¢.[/font]

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Back in the good old days of the cool SETI@home 1, with the black background and purple text, as opposed to this God-awful, garish white crap, one could go to http://www.setinetherlands.com and download a package that would install the CLI, SETI Driver, and SETI Spy with a minimum of fuss. Yet Berkeley took the position, symptomatic of today's pervasive culture of "I didn't do it!" and "Don't look at me!," of making sure the "Don't use software not approved by Berkeley" disclaimer was always front and center.

Instead, why not co-operate with Europeans (in this case the Dutch specifically), who almost always produce actually working applications originally produced in the United States, long before the likes of Microsoft, for instance, can move a single bug report through its maze of bureaucracy to a simple code rewriting.

Do I see anything approaching the logically-laid-out website Setinetherlands has, Stateside? No. When I need a tool or plug-in, I go to Setinetherlands, Berkeley's warnings be damned. I don't need the help of a team of American computer engineers when I can go to a handy site over the pond and get the job done in a few minutes.

How about starting off on the right foot with the new incarnation of SETI, and co-operating with the cats at Setinetherlands this time around? How about putting up their new BOINC tools on the Berkeley sites, rather than disavowing them?

We've resigned ourselves to the stupendously ugly visual experience of the new animal's GUI, sites in general, and message boards. At least give us something that's halfway user-friendly.

Golly.

I like the look of the new web site; it's easier to read. Purple text on a black background was "cool" when Seti@Home first launched, but the look was SO... 1999.

The people that are building the BOINC CC, the science apps, and the associated web sites are funded to run a research project, not make everybody happy. They should be concentrating on the platform and the science apps.

Back in 1999 and 2000, S@H was a little unstable, and the server side hit and miss. It got better. They were pretty concerned about people hacking the application and spoofing completed work units, so they didn't want you to run a custom-compiled client. That's not an issue with the current project.

To reiterate: They are funded to run research projects, not produce fluff that makes crunchers happy.

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"To reiterate: They are funded to run research projects, not produce fluff that makes crunchers happy. "


I agree, butin order to get the crunchers and keep them, they had to do something, adn they came up with the adicting credits...
I like the new website, but I cant tell wheter I like better than before.
Honestly I thought SETI@Home was a hoax and that was stealing computer cicles just becuase the website was so "unprofessional?"

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"To reiterate: They are funded to run research projects, not produce fluff that makes crunchers happy. "


I agree, butin order to get the crunchers and keep them, they had to do something, adn they came up with the adicting credits...
I like the new website, but I cant tell wheter I like better than before.
Honestly I thought SETI@Home was a hoax and that was stealing computer cicles just becuase the website was so "unprofessional?"

From the NSF Grant: (Which provided almost $1m (us) to Boinc...)

"There will be social and educational components as well. Public-resource computing projects succeed only if they attract and retain participants. In SETI@home, the researchers have developed a number of schemes for encouraging and harnessing friendly competition among users, and for keeping users informed and interested about the contributions of their computers to research. BIDC will include variants of these schemes that can be used within and across the projects based on it."

(BIDC was the early name for BOINC)

Seems they were funded for a bit more that "just doing research..."!

See http://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/showAward.do?AwardNumber=0221529 for the full abstract

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If you try to please everybody, you end up pleasing nobody!

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Back in the good old days of the cool SETI@home 1, with the black background and purple text,priviledge

I personally found this very difficult to read. I would have to 'select-all' to read the forum...