The basic unit of measurement the cobblestone is quite small. People are soon going to have astronomically high numbers compared to the old WU count system. I've played around with some ideas for mirroring the old award system that helped encourage and promote the old seti. A simple solution is at hand.


Simply take the current total credit of a participent and divide by 100. which is the same as shifting the decimal left two places. This would make credit of 1245.32 = 12.4532 or actually 12.45 which is a easier and useful number. This number that results from (total credit)/100 would be used for scoring and awards. This number probably needs a new name but it's a handy number as the current number is much to big and even dividing by 10 makes to large of a number but division by 100 seems pretty good and it's easy to do.


awards could go as follows for participation:


award at 10 (1000 actual cobblestones and a decent starting place)
award at 100
award at 1,000
award at 10,000
award at 100,000
and so forth for later awards and you could add intermediate ones to break up the long quests for the next award levels. But these should probably be considered the Goal awards much as 5,000 10,000 25,000 and so forth were for old seti.


See how simple that is?

not realy, it will get to confusing. :( they know what there doin, just let them do it, good idea though.

Hey someone that wants the original cobblestone back (kinda) the current cobblestones are scaled up by 100 from the original. With it we could even get awards at 1 cobblestone.

I don't think it will be coming back though. Now that S@H is live and P@H is working too it would likely to difficult to reset the value.

John Keck
BOINCing since 2002/12/08

> Hey someone that wants the original cobblestone back (kinda) the current
> cobblestones are scaled up by 100 from the original. With it we could even get
> awards at 1 cobblestone.
>
> I don't think it will be coming back though. Now that S@H is live and P@H is
> working too it would likely to difficult to reset the value.
>
John Keck
> BOINCing since 2002/12/08
>


not really though. we'd still keep the same measurement unit we do for work now as that measurement is just fine except for being a larger number then optimal for display purposes.


Sorta like we have the gram and kilo-gram as measures of weight with kilo-gram based on the gram. The new measurement would just be a more practical way to show large numbers.

It's basically just a number that would have to be calculated off what we already have. it's just a refinement of what we already have and NO work needs to be done internaly on the BOINC software or science applications that use BOINC.

> not really though. we'd still keep the same measurement unit we do for work
> now as that measurement is just fine except for being a larger number then
> optimal for display purposes.
>
>
> Sorta like we have the gram and kilo-gram as measures of weight with kilo-gram
> based on the gram. The new measurement would just be a more practical way to
> show large numbers.
>
> It's basically just a number that would have to be calculated off what we
> already have. it's just a refinement of what we already have and NO work
> needs to be done internaly on the BOINC software or science applications that
> use BOINC.
>

The stat numbers are sure going to get large soon. I have no problem referring to them in terms of kilocobbles for now and megacobbles much later.

I have just reached 18 KCs (Kilocobbles).

Yep it's pretty obvious the original unit is making such large numbers we're going to run out of room on the screen to print the large numbers for some people(almost at least).


It took some people over a year to get 1,000 wu's under the the old seti and even with fast computers getting 10,000 wu's took awhile.


we've already got people in the 100,000's for work credit now and BOINC hasn't even been running a full month yet!!!!

I agree :-)
The numbers will grow a lot.

I have 0.5Kc

I'm kinda new to this forum, so I don't get it, why "Cobblestones"?

> I agree :-)
> The numbers will grow a lot.
>
> I have 0.5Kc
>
> I'm kinda new to this forum, so I don't get it, why "Cobblestones"?
>
Coblestones were named after one of the developers. 1 WU = 1 Credit does not work unless all of the WUs are of substantially the same effort. Since there is supposed to be cross project compatibility in scoring, and each project may have several science modules that take substantially different amoounts of work. For example S@H is supposed to have original ariecebo, new parkes, and re-observation WUs which will each take a substantially different amount of time under normal circumstances. In the real world right now, predictor has mfold and charmm WUs that take very different amounts of time, and the amount of time is proportional to the size of the protien.

The unit of credit had to be called something.

So they picked cobblestones? What's wrong with credits? ;-)

> So they picked cobblestones? What's wrong with credits? ;-)
>

lol!!
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