I have an iMac sittign here that I dont know what to do with:

-PowerPC G3 233 MHz Processor
-64MB RAM (2x32MB)
-4.2GB Hard Drive
-Mac OS 9.2.2/Ubuntu Dual Boot

I am currently running SETI Classic on this machine, but I don't know what to do with it after Classic goes down.

My Questions:
-Since RAM is uber-expensive for this thing, are there any BOINC projects that DONT require more than 64MB RAM?
-Are there any other OS9 projects (Maybe Folding) that I can run?
-Can I artifically remove the memory checks in SETI or have Linux report more than there actually is?

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OS X should run on it. This is the Bondi Blue one, right?

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Don't those iMacs use standard PC100/PC133 memory?? If so, a 64MB upgrade shouldn't be that expensive.

Ned

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Bondi calls for PC66 144-pin SO-DIMM, but can go up to 512MB RAM if it's a Rev. B board.

You'd still hafta crack open the case, and that's where I think the costs become too high.

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> Bondi calls for PC66 144-pin SO-DIMM, but can go up to 512MB RAM if it's a
> Rev. B board.
>
> You'd still hafta crack open the case, and that's where I think the costs
> become too high.
>
It's a Rev. A, and I have already taken the parts out, as they jsut slide out of the back of the case.

>OS X should run on it. This is the Bondi Blue one, right?
>
Does OSX run with 64MB RAM, and will SETI let itself run?

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It's a Rev. A, and I have already taken the parts out, as they jsut slide out of the back of the case.
Rev. A goes up to 384MB, and because it's the definition of "New World Mac" it can run OS X. It'll need at least 128MB to run X.0, but you should be able to get X.2 running on it without too much of a hassle (just a lot of patience).

If I recall the Sys. Req.s correctly, Rev. A won't run X.4 due to the missing FiWire port. The lack of a DVD drive is easy to get around - Apple will make CDs available to non-DVD drive users.

As for SETI, you'll need more RAM - At least 128MB for OS + 64 for SETI. IIRC the board is the same as the G3 PowerBook (Kanga? Wallstreet?). You might be able to find a user who wants a few $ for it, strip out the RAM, and inject some additional life into the iMac.

Short Version: Leave Ubuntu/YDL/FC on it until the RAM is available. Then go to X.2/X.3.

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> It's a Rev. A, and I have already taken the parts out, as they jsut slide
> out of the back of the case.
> Rev. A goes up to 384MB, and because it's the definition of "New World Mac" it
> can run OS X. It'll need at least 128MB to run X.0, but you should be
> able to get X.2 running on it without too much of a hassle (just a lot of
> patience).
>
> If I recall the Sys. Req.s correctly, Rev. A won't run X.4 due to the missing
> FiWire port. The lack of a DVD drive is easy to get around - Apple will make
> CDs available to non-DVD drive users.
>
> As for SETI, you'll need more RAM - At least 128MB for OS + 64 for SETI. IIRC
> the board is the same as the G3 PowerBook (Kanga? Wallstreet?). You might be
> able to find a user who wants a few $ for it, strip out the RAM, and inject
> some additional life into the iMac.
>
> Short Version: Leave Ubuntu/YDL/FC on it until the RAM is available.
> Then go to X.2/X.3.
>
I have a copy of 10.3 sitting here, so all I need is RAM. Searching here:
<a>http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=property&catalog=381&propertycodevalue=4188,%200,%200,%200,%200,%200,%200&minprice=&maxprice=&mfrcode=0&DEPA=1&Order=price[/url]
I found this:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-211-124&depa=1
Do you think that would work? (Plus one of my 32MB sticks)?

And one more question: Do you know where i could get the 4MB Video RAM upgrade so I can get 32-bit color at 1024x768?

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I think the RAM will do - I'm checking the ECC and voltages with the Apple specs site. So far all I've found is this. Meantime, here's what I cobbled together from MacTracker's data and EveryMac.com because my little grey cells are growing some rust...

<li>iMac (Bondi Blue)
Machine ID iMac,1
"Columbus, C1, Elroy"
Introduced May 1998, Shipped August 1998, Discontinued January 1999</li><li>PowerPC 750 (G3) at 233MHz on a 66MHz bus
32 KB on-chip L1 and 512 KB L2 backside at 133MHz
4 gB HD with CD-ROM
Takes Mac OSs 8.5 up to Panther (Dunno about Tiger)</li><li>No on-board RAM
2× PC66 144 pin SO-DIMM 10ns or faster
Tops off at 384MB Rev. A or 512MB on Rev. B</li><li>ATI Rage IIc (Rev. A) or Rage Pro (Rev. B)
2 or 6 MB on-chip VRAM</li>

BTW, MacTracker is very good.

[EDIT] Yes - It looks like that's the card. I'd also recommend that you consider this. I'm not promoting the company, but their Mac support is very very good. You might also want to check Newer Technology and Viking (RAM Manufacturers) sine a lot of their stock went into those machines. Google should spot it for you.

As for the VRAM, I'm not sure if it's on-chip or slotted. Again, check against what Never Technology has to say - They'll most likely have it.

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From Apple:
Memory Video Memory
Logic Board: none
RAM Slots: 2, SO-DIMM
Min - Max RAM: 32 MB - 128 MB
Min RAM Speed: 100MHz/10ns
RAM Sizes: 16, 32, 64, 128 MB
Install in Groups of: 1
Notes: 144-pin SDRAM M6709LL/A ; 32MB - 128MB M6709LL/B ; 32MB - 256MB

I have M6709LL/A, so i think I will have to get two 128MB's... unless Apple is wrong about that and newer firmware fixed that or soemthing.

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I've seen three listings for the maximum RAM: 128 (Apple), 384 (Rev. A), and 512 (Rev. B). My guess is that Apple said 128 when that was the largest DIMM to date. I know that there is a firmware patch out for the Bondi Blue.

If I were in your position, I'd try to trade one of the 32MBs for a 256. In the worst case scenario, you'll have 128MB; in the best, 288MB.

Either way, you might want to check with the Apple Discussions board for better info - I've got some stuff that's come my way and will be keeping me busy for a few days...

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> I've seen three listings for the maximum RAM: 128 (Apple), 384 (Rev. A), and
> 512 (Rev. B). My guess is that Apple said 128 when that was the largest DIMM
> to date. I know that there is a firmware patch out for the Bondi Blue.
>
> If I were in your position, I'd try to trade one of the 32MBs for a 256. In
> the worst case scenario, you'll have 128MB; in the best, 288MB.
>
> Either way, you might want to check with the <a> href="http://discussions.info.apple.com">Apple Discussions[/url] board for
> better info - I've got some stuff that's come my way and will be keeping me
> busy for a few days...
>
Thanks for your help. I have upgeaded to he latest firmware and will get the 256 from Newegg.

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Luck to you!

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Hi!

And to add,
for higher performance,
use command line client wich starts
in Terminal program.

Best

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First thing is to get enough RAM in order to run Terminal...

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Ok,

After a LONG break, I have gotten BOINC going on OSX. Does anyone know how i can jsu trun it in the command line so Aqua dosen't take up all the system resources?

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<blockquote>Ok,

After a LONG break, I have gotten BOINC going on OSX. Does anyone know how i can jsu trun it in the command line so Aqua dosen't take up all the system resources?</blockquote>

If you install the Command line version 4.19 or before you have that already. I have notes in the install procedure for the old command line version with autostarting (though sometimes the hide does not work).

If you install BOINC Menubar you have an unobtrusive and low CPU cost GUI.

Now, I have changed from both of those to the newer 4.35 "Advanced GUI" and it takes little to no CPU unless it is open.

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I know how to run the CLI of BOINC, but do you know how to run OSX as only a CLI?

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