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Message 80396 - Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 21:32:06 UTC

I have Linux, and I have configured BOINCView and I can see everything throught my XP Box... now I barely now how to control BOINC on Linux, so can you really do stuff through BOINCView ?
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Message 80398 - Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 21:40:25 UTC - in response to Message 80396.  

> I have Linux, and I have configured BOINCView and I can see everything
> throught my XP Box... now I barely now how to control BOINC on Linux, so can
> you really do stuff through BOINCView ?
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You can share the folder with BOINC on Linux machine to the network and control it from there. You can also install BoincView under WINE on Linux box and use it as it was under windows.

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Message 80409 - Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 22:23:20 UTC - in response to Message 80398.  

> You can share the folder with BOINC on Linux machine to the network and
> control it from there.

BoincView uses RPC. There's no sharing involved.


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Message 80411 - Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 22:27:25 UTC

So when I press the "Update project" on BOINCView It doesnt do anything on the linux box?
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Message 80413 - Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 22:30:49 UTC - in response to Message 80411.  

> So when I press the "Update project" on BOINCView It doesnt do anything on the
> linux box?
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It should do if you have that host selected. It certainly does here. I control 6 machines from this one running BoincView (in Wine).




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Message 80415 - Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 22:32:49 UTC
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Then Im using BOINC View instead than control BOINC through Linux, its way to hard. :)
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Message 80417 - Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 22:36:29 UTC - in response to Message 80409.  

> > You can share the folder with BOINC on Linux machine to the network and
> > control it from there.
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> BoincView uses RPC. There's no sharing involved.
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If you use RPC you should configure the remote_hosts.cfg file adding the IP address of the pc with BoincView. I personally dont like the RPC mode because it eats too much memory

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Message 80420 - Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 22:40:05 UTC

I did that, and how does it eat memory ? It's only a file! Or does do something else? And from whom does it take the memory away from.. The linux one or the Win one (From Windows -> Linux)
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Message 80423 - Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 22:47:04 UTC - in response to Message 80417.  

> I personally dont like the RPC mode because it eats too much memory

It's using 0.2% of 512Mb here, according to "top". Samba or NFS would use a lot more than that. ;)


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Message 80424 - Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 22:48:08 UTC

well ill sacrfice that for controling BOINC on linux! :)
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Message 80427 - Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 22:50:22 UTC

The amount of memory "eaten" by BoincView in RPC mode depends on how many messages are shown :)

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Message 80491 - Posted: 18 Feb 2005, 2:59:39 UTC - in response to Message 80427.  

>>I personally dont like the RPC mode because it eats too much memory

BS. Might the application behind uses memory.

The memory use of a COMMAND SET is nearly nothing, couples of KB.

Thats the same you will say "you don't like tcp/ip because... because of the bookmarks..

Make the difference between application and communication!

make your own gui and learn how to deal with rpc

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Message 80501 - Posted: 18 Feb 2005, 3:13:14 UTC

Now there's a point. I use my XP box to control my linux boxes. It does this just fine, no problems, just start them with remote-gui_etc... But I can't figure out how to do that with windows versions for my other boxes, I also tried remote_host.cfg, as stated in the documentation. I placed the IP in a text file, but this failed. Is there something else that needs to be in this file, perhaps some other commands. Sure would be nice if a template or exaple was available to propagate mine from.
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Message 80506 - Posted: 18 Feb 2005, 3:17:44 UTC - in response to Message 80501.  

> I placed the IP in a
> text file, but this failed. Is there something else that needs to be in this
> file, perhaps some other commands. Sure would be nice if a template or exaple
> was available to propagate mine from.
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Where did you place that file? It needs to be in the boinc directory of each of the machines that you want BoincView to monitor/control.

I control 4 Linux boxes, a Win2k box and the local Linux box all from BoincView running in Wine.


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Message 80508 - Posted: 18 Feb 2005, 3:23:25 UTC

I don't know If I did something wrong, but, when I press "Update project" (to report the results) It doesn't do anything, Is this normal or am I missing anything ? (I can see everything of my linux box through my windows box, but I can't update to upload the results)
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Message 80510 - Posted: 18 Feb 2005, 3:28:25 UTC

Yes I placed the .cfg file in the Boinc directory of each PC. The only ones I didn't need to was my local box and the two linux boxes. I'm just kind "ignant" about some stuff some times, that seemed to be a simple straight forward kinda procedure.
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Message 80594 - Posted: 18 Feb 2005, 6:54:29 UTC - in response to Message 80508.  

> I don't know If I did something wrong, but, when I press "Update project" (to
> report the results) It doesn't do anything, Is this normal or am I missing
> anything ? (I can see everything of my linux box through my windows box, but I
> can't update to upload the results)

You have to select a host and project before update works. Some tabs you view implicitly set them - like when you select a WU you get a host and project "selected" for that WU. I found it always works when I do this:

Select the system you want to update in the left pane list view, then click the "Project" tab in the right pane and select the project you want to "update". (if you only have one project, it'll already be selected, but you still need to switch to the projects tab). Click the Update button. A confirmation box will pop up asking "Update project x on y" (x and y are the selections you made), click "yes".

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Message 80600 - Posted: 18 Feb 2005, 7:58:39 UTC - in response to Message 80594.  
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What Version of BOINCview are you using ?

I've looked at your Systems, and it seems you're using BOINC V4.13.
Therefor, BOINCview V0.92d is the Version of BOINCview you need.

The access via File System (File/Printer Sharing under Windows, Samba/SMB under Linux) IMHO only allows to Monitor the Clients (no remote Control)

Only via Network Control (GUI_RPC) Commands can be given and full control gained over remote Clients.

Requirements :
- remote_hosts.cfg on the remote machine in BOINC Main Directory
- BOINCview V0.92d for controlling BOINC V4.13/4.19 Clients
- Network Config in BOINCview : Target IP, Port 31416
+ Appropriate Proxy Settings/permissions in the remote and Local Box of course
(see Message Tab of the Linux Client to denote any errors)
++ granted Traffic through Firewalls, if installed (local and remote)
(this can be a nasty factor if forgotten)

That's basically all I know how to make BOINCview work.

So far, I'm using V0.92d to Control 20 remote Clients running BOINC V4.19 and V4.55 (WinXP, Win2000, Linux, Irix)
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BOINCview specifics :
You have to select the Host on the left side, then click/Highlight the Project with the finished (Ready to Report) WorkUnit in the Main Window.

Then choose "Update selected Project" from the Update Button's Context Menu.
If all is correct, the right numbers put into the right places and Network Connection + Proxy is enabled with Firewall permission, it "should" work.
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Message 80602 - Posted: 18 Feb 2005, 8:26:56 UTC - in response to Message 80491.  
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> >>I personally dont like the RPC mode because it eats too much memory
>
> BS. Might the application behind uses memory.
>
> The memory use of a COMMAND SET is nearly nothing, couples of KB.
>
> Thats the same you will say "you don't like tcp/ip because... because of the
> bookmarks..
>
> Make the difference between application and communication!
>
> make your own gui and learn how to deal with rpc
>
>
ric, very useful statement, thank you - lol
Better read once again the thread before making statements :)

> I don't know If I did something wrong, but, when I press "Update project" (to
> report the results) It doesn't do anything, Is this normal or am I missing
> anything ? (I can see everything of my linux box through my windows box, but I
> can't update to upload the results)
Did you create a file named remote_hosts.cfg in the BOINC directory of your Linux machine? If not create one (it is a normal text file) and put in there the IP of your windows machine - XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX, for instance 192.168.0.1.
Also be sure you're not using some of RC versions of BoincView to control Boinc 4.1x - use an earlier version.


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Message 80654 - Posted: 18 Feb 2005, 15:15:03 UTC - in response to Message 80600.  

> What Version of BOINCview are you using ?
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BOINCView works fine on my systems, I was answering Minizippers query about update not working when he tried.

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