> Rom and the gang Know about this problem and are working on it as we speak,
> Well they might be sleeping at 5;30 am. Anyway, You must unistall 4.66 and
> reinstall 4.20. Windoes only. Use control panel, Uninstall programs, The BOINC
> WU's will not be deleated. Reinstall 4.20 all is well. or unistall 4.20 and
> reinstall 4.20 works fine.
>

i did uninstall 4.66 first but ill try agen thanks

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This is to the people moaning about the difference in benchmark values....aventually everyone will have the same benchmarks so therefore we will all get equal values regardless os stop moaning and its not as if its up to you....berkely can set a benchmark that they want.....were here to crunch WU's not get the most credit!!!!

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> What gives you the right to criticize software that hasn't been released to
> the public. the last I checked 4.19 is the release. So your comments to this
> forum are a waste of breath and space. You are insulting and if your so damned
> smart make donation to Berkeley or join the team and actively participate in
> the decision making process! Instead of insults and brow beating.

I swear, if the folks at Berkeley sent Woody a bunch of beautiful women and a small team of experts to think of ways for them to be nice to him, he'd find a reason to complain.

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> I swear, if the folks at Berkeley sent Woody a bunch of beautiful women and a
> small team of experts to think of ways for them to be nice to him, he'd find a
> reason to complain.

Well, for one thing, right off the bat, I can tell you that they will be breathing his air ...

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> Minor versions have to be two characters otherwise there is potential for bad
> things to happen, plus the major versions have to be in sync between the
> client and server, otherwise the server will ignore the client, and the client
> will reset all the projects.
>

This should be pretty easy to fix: Just drop the check of the major version, give the communication protocol
it's own version numbering instead, and communicate it.
If the client doesn't send a version number: use the old protocol, if it does, act accordingly.

And when you're at it, encapsulate the comms in a class. This allows you to have different protocol versions available at the same time,
and make graceful transitions from old to new protocols.

Regards Hans

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Narakis wrote:

> i just installed Boinc 4.20, but i have got a few problems:
> 1.) On Windows 2000 (German) there is no Group Users. So i had to create it.

Does this mean that with a non-English version of Windows XP Home, in which it's impossible to create groups, and has "Users" translated, it's impossible to use the new version?

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//
For anyone not happy with the new look of the manager, try Boincview. I've been using it for a while, and like it way better than the manager. It displays all my machines at once and allows me to sort anyway I like. It also tends to show a lot more information than the manager does. The only thing it doesn't seem to do is show the graphice, which I can't display anyway as I tun Boinc as a service (option 3 on the install). I don't have the link handy right now, but hopefully someone else can provide it.
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just wanted to mention, everybody is free to code his/her own gui, with the
displayed values and the function his/her is considering as useful.

Just a fact, not a complain, *I* am happy with 4.66 (m$) don't see any reason so far, to change the *4me* well running clients.

Even if there is a new client version out, "alpha or not alpha", as long as it's not a projects prerequisite or a heavy bug fixed release,

there is basically no need to migrate.

Migrations can be risky and it takes a centain amount of time, to do it.

> The only thing it
> doesn't seem to do is show the graphice, which I can't display anyway as I tun
> Boinc as a service (option 3 on the install). I don't have the link handy
> right now, but hopefully someone else can provide it.
>
If you want to see the graphics, set the log on user for the BOINC service to be system and allow interaction with the desktop.

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> Ive just had a very strange problem with 4.20...
>
> Ive just started up my pc (the first time with this version in the startup
> folder) and it comes up first...all fine...except there are no projects shown
> and no WU details in the work tab...but if i look in task manager setiathome
> is running and boinc is running?! strange...anyone else had this problem?
> (also when its like this there is no tray icon for boinc and you cant close it
> (as if it is not responding)
>
Yes I had the same problem, I just exit Boinc and restarted and is work ok.

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Fred
BOINC Alpha, BOINC Beta, LHC Alpha, Einstein Alpha

> > Ive just had a very strange problem with 4.20...
> >
> > Ive just started up my pc (the first time with this version in the
> startup
> > folder) and it comes up first...all fine...except there are no projects
> shown
> > and no WU details in the work tab...but if i look in task manager
> setiathome
> > is running and boinc is running?! strange...anyone else had this
> problem?
> > (also when its like this there is no tray icon for boinc and you cant
> close it
> > (as if it is not responding)
> >
> Yes I had the same problem, I just exit Boinc and restarted and is work ok.
>
The problem has been found and should be fixed in 4.21.

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4.21 is out for alpha test.
updated 3 machines Only one has a problem.

will report if I can duplicate it.....

After uninstall 4.20 I installed 4.21
Boinc manager comes up full screen, loads no problem
the minumized to task bar. once minimized cannot maximize...

Reboot same procedure happens again. I will now unistall
and reinstall.


Timmy

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I know it has been discussed in another thread but wouldn’t it be better to have left the version number in the 4.6x range until the release version was ready and then renumber it. I don’t care how the version numbers are used in the alpha versions as the only people using them should know what they are doing and are willing to take the risk. That way the version numbers 4.5x – 4.9x could be used as many times as needed with the release version number only climbing slowly with no gaps in the number sequence.

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Anthony

Hi

Perhaps the devs thought they are near to go public with the cc.
But i think the one that goes to public will be 4.2x.

greetz Mike

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With each crime and every kindness we birth our future.

V4.21...no problems.

Hi

I had the same internal error 2357 after install as with 4.20.
But running without any problems so far.
The cc needs around 10 sec to wake up from tray but its a cosmetical issue.

greetz from rainy Germany
Mike

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With each crime and every kindness we birth our future.

> Hi
>
> I had the same internal error 2357 after install as with 4.20.
> But running without any problems so far.
> The cc needs around 10 sec to wake up from tray but its a cosmetical issue.
>
> greetz from rainy Germany
> Mike
>
I've notice this slow wake up also. I presume the /s switch in the shortcut is what starts the program in the tray. I created my own shortcut when I first started using the Dev line v4.56, because it always seemed to take a very long time for information to show up when I started the program minimized. It still take up to a minute, on the first run after the installation of new CC updates.

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Win7 i5 3.33G 4GB, GTX470

4.21 will not be going public as there are a couple of bug fixes that were not copied over from 4.66.

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> 2. I took the plunge and installed BOINC V4.20. Initial thoughts were great,
> it worked with no problems. Then I used it. All my comments are of an
> asthetic nature...the basics of it appear to work so far.

Ditto 4.21 + suspendable w/u and projects bailed me out of some E@H problems on one of the other computers that was "behind".

> a). I like to sort the wu's based on report deadline, with BOINC manager that
> can't be done. I'd love to see it back.

Ditto, really miss this one.

> b). The progress bar was nice. I suppose I will get used to not having it.

Don't really care about this personally. %% is displayed, ok w/ me.

> c). I like the pop up showing current wu progress when you hover the mouse
> over the BOINC icon in the task bar.

Ditto

> d). I got over the info column on the left very quickly....it's just painful
> in it's current format. It might be better as a pop down menu.

I'd just like to see it resizable or a display on/off.

> e). I have no idea what the Status column in the Project tab does. There is
> nothing in it atm.

Suspended projects show here.

> All up so far so good!

Ditto

Are we still on for a Feb 23rdish 4.2x release?

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- da shu @ HeliOS,
"A child's exposure to technology should never be predicated on an ability to afford it."

4.22 is released


IT'S DEVELOPMENT STUFF, USE AT OWN RISK !

So far on three Machines 2 xp pro and 1 xp home

No problems very clean...

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Hey Timmy, Nice Scorpius avatar you got there.

I've got 4.22 running fine on one P3-500 Win98 (not SE), one P4 1.8 WinXPhomeSP2, and one AthlonXP 2200+ WinXP home SP1.

see tims' disclaimer about developmental software (which this is) doing bad things.

PS, Tim shouldn't you start a thread with the 4.22 in the title? Someone is going to..... You should know that, my friend. lol But then again, even if you do, someone else will probably start one. hehehehe

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