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Message 10792 - Posted: 13 Dec 2006, 1:20:50 UTC

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Thank You for those of you that have found a way to contribute some small amount! It Matters!

By the end of this you are going to hate me or be happy that I as "User care." If you hate me that is fine, however what was raised in Donations "Last Year" basically extended a bad situation. What was raised was enough to keeps the Operations side going and a little was used in getting Enhanced to Seti and the MutiBeam Receiver in place. Whatever small reserve they had left which was never mentioned is gone... It is now the CRUNCH TIME! While I do not know how long we have the time left is short it is the $538,000 or bust!

Just Operations for a years (Servers and Bandwidth and Administrators) is a quarter million dollars roughly $21,000.00/month. That is what keeps the Forums Open so Users can help other Users, and Others chat with old Friends, allows us to Crunch and have Races against our Friends or other teams (that you can't figure out how they got that far), It allows for discussions on what My Next Computer should Be.

Then People Like Simon, TMR, Ben, Joe, Alex, Ned and Crunch3r come along and make things Faster and Stronger, many have provided input to make the Seti Application Better...

All in all we are a Large Extend Family, and a Family Member is in Need!

IF You Can, Please Consider a Donation It is Very Important!

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Message 10815 - Posted: 13 Dec 2006, 18:21:39 UTC - in response to Message 10792.  

Okay Folks

Thank You for those of you that have found a way to contribute some small amount! It Matters!

By the end of this you are going to hate me or be happy that I as "User care." If you hate me that is fine, however what was raised in Donations "Last Year" basically extended a bad situation. What was raised was enough to keeps the Operations side going and a little was used in getting Enhanced to Seti and the MutiBeam Receiver in place. Whatever small reserve they had left which was never mentioned is gone... It is now the CRUNCH TIME! While I do not know how long we have the time left is short it is the $538,000 or bust!

Just Operations for a years (Servers and Bandwidth and Administrators) is a quarter million dollars roughly $21,000.00/month. That is what keeps the Forums Open so Users can help other Users, and Others chat with old Friends, allows us to Crunch and have Races against our Friends or other teams (that you can't figure out how they got that far), It allows for discussions on what My Next Computer should Be.

Then People Like Simon, TMR, Ben, Joe, Alex, Ned and Crunch3r come along and make things Faster and Stronger, many have provided input to make the Seti Application Better...

All in all we are a Large Extend Family, and a Family Member is in Need!

IF You Can, Please Consider a Donation It is Very Important!

Thank You

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Thank you, Pappa.

Please take a look at the budget.

They need US$ 230,400 just for the current expenses, and so far people have donated about 60,000 US$ and this will cover only about 1/4 of the expenses. It's a question how long that will last.

So, if you like to be a part of this project and/or Seti main, and you want them to continue, please consider a donation, how much you can afford, to keep this place going.

Thank you.


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Message 10865 - Posted: 14 Dec 2006, 4:19:33 UTC

First, I want to Thank Every One that has found a way and a few extra Dollars to Help Seti. I know that "WE" Can Do this!

There is no easy way to say this... With the knowledge that I have, what has been raised to date will buy Seti sometime until the end of January or into February. I have been in communications with Seti Staff and told things that would be considered confidential. Then How do You (Seti) explain something like this. It is Not good news... I have privately raised (again) the PayPal issue and received some discussion. Things are being worked on but there is no quick answer (that answer could be about 3 months out).

I have also asked for some information that could be approved for general discussion, about how bad the situation is. What I am saying is from what I have been told, no details. NO it is not easy or pretty.

I can say that by looking that Old Budget and the New Budget many things happened... After having ran a Business know that income has to exceed outgo... What did not happen on the first Fundraising Drive is now about to bite us. The Folks at Seti are trying, but currently it is a losing battle, there are racing the clock.

Teams Captains should let their respective Teams know that their Favorite Project is at Risk! There are some that are working on ways to help.

What has been raised so far $61,760.46 Operations Costs are killing it (that is part of my precept)... So Programming aside or advances in Enhanced, Multibeam, Astropulse and the Near Time Persistency Checker (for all the data previously collected). It becomes someone reaches out and pulls the plug from the wall... Or in your home someone disconnects Your Internet!

If by some odd chance 1 to 5 percent of the Seti users could come up with some cash then it would not be an issue. The more dollars in the short term buys time for the Long term. What I see is the same people keep giving... There are others out that have no knowledge of the problem. Communications and People Caring is what Solves Problems. I Care, many Here Care! Spread the Word that a Family Member needs Help! We all part of the First Distributed Computing Family! SETI, Seti needs Help!

So as I have said more than I should have, I have not violated the trust that was shared. I can only say things are Very Grim for Seti! AS I have information I can share or facts that I can point to, and will be happy to do that.

In the mean time it is up to each of "US" to find a way to get [/url=http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/donate.php]Donations[/url] to help Seti move on and evolve.

Spread the Word! Seti needs Help!

Thank You!

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Message 11013 - Posted: 16 Dec 2006, 5:21:46 UTC

Evening Everyone

Currently $66845.46 has been raised, I know that many Holidays for Many Religions happen this month. I and Seti would never presume to take anything away from your Loved Ones. WE all know times get tough and making ends meet is tough.

I would like to say Thank YOU! for what you have been able to provide. It is still a bit short of the goal, but we can do what we can do. "WE" can do this!

If you can find a way to Send a Small Gift to Seti, countless Users will appreciate it. The larger percententage still has not idea that there is a problem. Letting others know that you you have helped to get started is Important! Maybe they can also Help... Spread the Word!

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Message 11043 - Posted: 16 Dec 2006, 12:45:04 UTC - in response to Message 11013.  

Evening Everyone

Currently $66845.46 has been raised, I know that many Holidays for Many Religions happen this month. I and Seti would never presume to take anything away from your Loved Ones. WE all know times get tough and making ends meet is tough.

I would like to say Thank YOU! for what you have been able to provide. It is still a bit short of the goal, but we can do what we can do. "WE" can do this!

If you can find a way to Send a Small Gift to Seti, countless Users will appreciate it. The larger percententage still has not idea that there is a problem. Letting others know that you you have helped to get started is Important! Maybe they can also Help... Spread the Word!

Once again Thank You!

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Thank you Pappa.

Just a reminder that what they need of money at the main project to keep the place running, Eric also need for here. So this place will go also, if they don't get the money to keep it running. Not to talk about the project!



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Message 11169 - Posted: 17 Dec 2006, 5:25:43 UTC

Evening All

From the Combined Budgets or the progress taht may be hard to see for some.

Project/Task Subtotal Total

SETI@home I
Original Current
$126,700 $ 65,700

$ 83,000 $ 22,000 Offline Data Analysis & RFI Rejection
$ 37,500 $ 37,500 Candidate Identification
$ 6,200 $ 6,200 Followup Observations of Best Candidates

SETI@home II
Original Current
$244,600 $149,200

$ 58,800 $ --,--- Multibeam Data Recorder Equipment and Development
$ 98,800 $ 98,800 New Client Application Software Development
$ 50,400 $ 50,400 Candidate Identification & Data Analysis Software
$ 25,500 $ --,--- Storage Server (11.2TB usable RAID 5)
$ 11,100 $ --,--- Data tapes

Astropulse ¹
Original Current
$132,700 $ 92,700

$ 85,000 $ 45,000 Client application/data analysis software development
$ 19,400 $ 19,400 Equipment: Database and server hardware
$ 28,300 $ 28,300 Candidate identification and followup observations

Operations
Original Current
$230,400 $230,400 $19,200/Monthly

$ 59,700 $ 59,700 Internet connection and bandwidth charges
$ 48,500 $ 48,500 Database administration and support
$ 62,800 $ 62,800 Systems administration and support
$ 20,900 $ 20,900 Server maintenance and performance monitoring
$ 25,200 $ 25,200 Web site development
$ 13,300 $ 13,300 Upgrade to failure tolerant server configuration
$734,400 $538,000 Total

The Obvious Differences
$ 83,000 $ 22,000 Offline Data Analysis & RFI Rejection
$ 58,800 $ --,--- Multibeam Data Recorder Equipment and Development
$ 25,500 $ --,--- Storage Server (11.2TB usable RAID 5)
$ 11,100 $ --,--- Data tapes
$ 85,000 $ 45,000 Client application/data analysis software development

Summary:
The First Funding Drive got the MultiBeam Receiver and Data Recorder in place and working!
The "Constant" is Operations, or Outgoing $19.200/Monthly
Seti Beta really is only partly correct, it really is a mix of Alpha and Beta Testing.
MultiBeam Data is in "Beta" Testing or part of "SETI@home II" however there is still additional Application Development that is needed. That would mean we have workunits to Crunch if the lights are still on.
"A Little Birdie" told me that sometime In Jan we may see the first pass at Astropulse in Beta. What that really means is that Seti Beta Users will be doing the first Alpha testing of Astropulse.
A Nameless Person that "we" will call Joe, is working to help insure that there is still Windows 9.x support (currently for Enhanced and Multibeam).
Some Silly person that goes by the name of Pappa keeps digging this out and trying to help put things in perspective. The perspective is, unless Operational Costs are met they close the doors. While some development is still happening (Multibeam) it eats into operational costs.

Overall:
During a difficult time of the year for everyone (including myself, I have lost four machines to power issues). I am asking that IF, You can find a way to spare a few Dollars to support Seti then do so. I know several groups are working on ways to gather funding... That still takes time and effort and obstacles to overcome. How I count it what has been raised buy's us time into January solve some of the ways to get money to Seti.


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Message 11303 - Posted: 18 Dec 2006, 1:15:46 UTC

I don’t mean to be a wet blanket, but is the topic appropriate to this forum? AFAICT the same information has been posted in several other places where readers of this board are likely to see it.
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Message 11329 - Posted: 18 Dec 2006, 16:49:01 UTC - in response to Message 11303.  

I don’t mean to be a wet blanket, but is the topic appropriate to this forum? AFAICT the same information has been posted in several other places where readers of this board are likely to see it.


Odysseus, the topic is important to all of us here, because if they don't get the money they need, this project will be shut down too.

I asked Pappa to post in all fora, as not all read on the different boards.

If you have any suggestions to how we can make the donation threads more "informative" please contact me on fuzzy.hollynoodles at gmail dot moc and we'll include you in the team about the donation drive. I'm sure Eric will be happy for all the help he can get.

Thank you.


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Message 11346 - Posted: 19 Dec 2006, 1:53:17 UTC - in response to Message 11303.  
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This is tough, I was not expecting the next Fund Raiser until next year. I saw the notice in Seti Main and asked Eric a very pointed question. The reply I received indicated that things were in a very bad situation. What was said is in confidence and I will not go into those details. When that Happened, I contacted Fuzzy.. So there we go.

During the First Fund Drive I beat up the Forums everyday... Wherever I could interject a plea for Donations I did... Some were quite creative. At this point in time I have limited time to spend making plea's. The information that I have reconstructed in some cases would have been nice the first time around.

So from my standpoint is funding to keep the Science Alive Important? Yes IF we can keep basic operations going then it gives time and space for things that will still be here...

So at this point I know Eric is trying to get as much accomplished as quickly as he can. That would include getting MultiBeam to Seti Main and Astropulse Alpha here for us to test.

Thank You, for the Concern

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If anyone has ideas, you are welcome to contact me al.setiboinc (at) gmail.com


I don’t mean to be a wet blanket, but is the topic appropriate to this forum? AFAICT the same information has been posted in several other places where readers of this board are likely to see it.


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Message 11399 - Posted: 20 Dec 2006, 1:43:58 UTC

Evening Everyone

A Little Birdie told me some Good News. At this point we are Good probably towards the end of February into March.

To date You have Helped to raise $75326.15, this during a time of year where many are trying to take care of families and prepare for Holiday's.

Thank You for the Immediate Support that Everyone has provided. This unexpectedly took everyone by surprise, things were very urgent. So there was no planning other than Fuzzy and I starting to work on raising awareness of the situation...

What I can say is that the PayPal issue is actively being worked, No there is no time frame yet. Quiet discussion has came up with a few ideas on how to best communicate with the users about the issues. Those ideas are still being worked on and nothing more will be said until they are ready. There will be a big push to Raise the Goal of $538000.00, that completes the project list.

The Fund raising has to Happen! I know that it will have more organization.

The future tends to hold that "WE" the users will keep things going for Seti.

So At this point I will not be beating the various Forums about Donations, it does not mean we are totally out of the woods. "WE" have time to plan and make it work more effectively.

Please remember that the Seti Store helps also.

I send my Very Best Wishes during these Holidays.

Thank You Everyone, for all the Help.

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Message 11410 - Posted: 20 Dec 2006, 4:35:08 UTC

Why I can not donate

Sounds Simple, but there are reasons. I would Love that you explain reasons why it is too tough to Donate! Those are Issues that need to be resolved.

I Know that Family Comes First! Defining techincial issues that prevented you from making a donation is Important! Please take a moment to tell what you saw and why it stopped You. Then something might be done to help overcome those issues!

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Message 11447 - Posted: 20 Dec 2006, 18:52:06 UTC - in response to Message 11399.  

Evening Everyone

A Little Birdie told me some Good News. At this point we are Good probably towards the end of February into March.

To date You have Helped to raise $75326.15, this during a time of year where many are trying to take care of families and prepare for Holiday's.

Thank You for the Immediate Support that Everyone has provided. This unexpectedly took everyone by surprise, things were very urgent. So there was no planning other than Fuzzy and I starting to work on raising awareness of the situation...

What I can say is that the PayPal issue is actively being worked, No there is no time frame yet. Quiet discussion has came up with a few ideas on how to best communicate with the users about the issues. Those ideas are still being worked on and nothing more will be said until they are ready. There will be a big push to Raise the Goal of $538000.00, that completes the project list.


The Fund raising has to Happen! I know that it will have more organization.

The future tends to hold that "WE" the users will keep things going for Seti.

So At this point I will not be beating the various Forums about Donations, it does not mean we are totally out of the woods. "WE" have time to plan and make it work more effectively.

Please remember that the Seti Store helps also.

I send my Very Best Wishes during these Holidays.

Thank You Everyone, for all the Help.

Pappa



Thanks Pappa.

Yes, the same birdie chirped the same news to me, but all, please notice what Pappa here says, that "we are Good probably towards the end of February into March."

This means that after this point, they need money just to run this place for!

So, please make a donation as soon as you're able to. Of course we all know that December and the season for expenses is here, but please consider a donation as soon you're able to, as the projects else will be in dire straits.

Thank you all, who have donated.

And yes, we are taking some initiatives to raise more money.


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Message 11516 - Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 21:39:10 UTC

Hello Everyone

I had opened a Thread to see if there were some reasons "technical" that might be overcame. As a result of a person posting a question we have a response from Eric. It might be worthwhile to so to go take a look at This Thread it explains part of the battle and why several of us are very concerned. the hard part is getting the information out to everyone.

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Message 11704 - Posted: 24 Dec 2006, 1:00:47 UTC

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Message 11718 - Posted: 24 Dec 2006, 1:57:22 UTC

Misfit, I love your avatar! where did you get it? Its very cute and very true with life I guess is the way to put it into words of what I'm trying to say.
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Message 11739 - Posted: 24 Dec 2006, 7:42:47 UTC - in response to Message 11718.  

Misfit, I love your avatar! where did you get it? Its very cute and very true with life I guess is the way to put it into words of what I'm trying to say.

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Message 11741 - Posted: 24 Dec 2006, 7:45:38 UTC - in response to Message 11739.  

Misfit, I love your avatar! where did you get it? Its very cute and very true with life I guess is the way to put it into words of what I'm trying to say.

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Message 11793 - Posted: 25 Dec 2006, 1:03:22 UTC

Thank You Everyone

Todate [25 Dec 2006 0:59:16 UTC] You have helped to raise $80041.15 or 14.9% of the goal.

My Very Best Wishes to Everyone during the Holidays.

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Message 11918 - Posted: 27 Dec 2006, 1:04:26 UTC

Thank You Everyone

To an extent an interesting bump in Donations happened on Christmas Eve 15 people donated $1730.00 when I have been saying I hope that we meet $700.00 day for basic operations.

I am sure that Seti, Thanks You for the Christmas Present.

Todate [27 Dec 2006 1:00:00 UTC] $81166.15 has been raised or 15.1% of the goal all within about 4 weeks... So while progress is not Earth Shaking it is Progress. So, "We" Can Do This!

The Science Page shows the status of the Alpha Receiver (MultiBeam). Testing of the ability to Crunch MultiBeam Workunits is in Progress in Seti Beta... There are a couple of things to be done before those workunits show up here...

At this point the Seti Lab should be fairly quiet... I suspect that the Staff is trying to get things done and be quiet so things will just happen after the first of the year. I do not expect much communications until sometime during the first week of January 2007

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Message 11927 - Posted: 27 Dec 2006, 1:57:55 UTC
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