21) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Unusual pulsing signal on 14.320 MHz (Message 1206393) Posted 16 Mar 2012 by cwburch Post: I tried listening for on about an hour ago via globaltuners.com from Vero Beach, FL, Blount Hill, N.C. and one in Winsconsin. Nothing. Could be because of the antenna on those radios though.

22) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Unusual pulsing signal on 14.320 MHz (Message 1206365) Posted 16 Mar 2012 by cwburch Post: For those of you hearing it, it would be helpful to know where you hear it from. Not asking for exact location. Something like "Northeast Florida" is what I mean.

23) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Unusual pulsing signal on 14.320 MHz (Message 1205345) Posted 13 Mar 2012 by cwburch Post: How about this for a WAG? A submarine surfacing daily for several hours sending out a beacon of some sort. I've never known subs to do that though, as they desire to keep their location private.

24) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Unusual pulsing signal on 14.320 MHz (Message 1202405) Posted 4 Mar 2012 by cwburch Post: THanks for that explanation Michael, about my interpretation of the reference to 20 meters on the CCD Camera. But there was another one launched on Dec 22, 2011 (just for reference). Details at http://www.n2yo.com/database/?m=12&d=22&y=2011 even though it has no relation to the 14.320Mhz signal. The timing of it's orbit and when it was heard did match up pretty well though.

25) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Unusual pulsing signal on 14.320 MHz (Message 1201549) Posted 2 Mar 2012 by cwburch Post: Okay, guess I'll spill the beans and see if folks think I'm off my rocker on this one (which means I'll make a complete idiot of myself and folks will just chastise me on any future posts I make on any subject), or believe I've made a somewhat educated guess that right or wrong, was not to bad for less than amature sleuthing on this one. I suspect this signal on 14.320Mhz is coming from a Chinese ZY-1 satellite launched on dec 22 2011 which is in a polar orbit with a 98.5 degree inclination and orbital period of 100.3 minutes which puts this in low earth orbit. with a Perigee of 779.9km and an Apogee of 782.1 km. I'm throwing this out there now (which is probably to early really) because based on my tracking of the satellite and the GMT times folks are hearing it in the US, they seem to match up. Additionally, a bit deeper analysis of the payloads on board this satellite indicate that the CCD imaging camera uses the 20-meter band, though it doesn't say what precisely is being sent or received in the 20-meter band beyond what is termed as "positional data". Tracking of this satellite can be observed at http://www.n2yo.com/?s=38038 and additional information that may or may not relate to this "specific" satellite can be seen at http://www.n2yo.com/satellite/?s=38038 and http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/world/china/zy-1.htm So.... should I have kept quite and left people wondering about my ignorance? Or have I removed all doubt?

26) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Unusual pulsing signal on 14.320 MHz (Message 1200228) Posted 27 Feb 2012 by cwburch Post: when I first tune the receiver, it's usually in the 2-meter band when I get to it. So when I pop down to the 20 meter band, I can't here it because I can't change the antenna.

27) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Unusual pulsing signal on 14.320 MHz (Message 1200209) Posted 27 Feb 2012 by cwburch Post: I've been trying to hear it for hours now, but was unable to get an available rcvr on global tuners until 0030GMT. Checked a few on the east coast, one in Phoenix, then Hong Kong and a few in western Europe. No can hear it. Guess I'll just keep trying tomorrow and/or hope a hammer out there will hear and report here on it.

28) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Unusual pulsing signal on 14.320 MHz (Message 1199881) Posted 26 Feb 2012 by cwburch Post: It's been 3 days. Nobody got any followup on this signal yet? I've been listening on US east coast receivers via globaltuners.con when I can. But during the timeframes mentioned I've not been able to tune to 14.320Mhz. So have been listening during evening hours when rcvrs are available for me to tune. There are no rcvrs on the west coast on globaltuners. So I can't check that side of the US. So I checked out a rcvr in Hong Kong and was able to listen for a whole 5 mins. I "think" I heard it weak, around 0400GMT, but it was so weak, it very well could have been my imagination pulling it out of the noise. I still need some kind of DF on it before I give my hypothesis though.

29) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Unusual pulsing signal on 14.320 MHz (Message 1199083) Posted 24 Feb 2012 by cwburch Post: At this time, I'm not looking to identify the signal per-se, or any intelligence it may or may not be carrying. I'm looking at identifying the source of the signal. If the signal can be DF'd from the west coast of the US, then I expect it to not be locatable from the west coast, as on a DF scope it will appear to be coming from all directions. That is, if my hypothesis is anywhere close to being correct. It's probably not. But then I kinda like the old addage of "If you can't prove what it is, then confirm what it is not so you don't waste time on what isn't there".

30) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Unusual pulsing signal on 14.320 MHz (Message 1198967) Posted 23 Feb 2012 by cwburch Post: Nope. It's definitely not anything nautical. In my previous post I mentioned DF'ing it fron the west coast. I meant east coast, and it'll DF anywhere from 220 degrees to 330 degrees. Also if DF'd twice 30 minutes apart, I expect a difference of at least 10 degrees; probably closer to 20-25 degrees. Hopefully, someone can provide this info plus the info requested in my previous post. It may or may not confirm my hypothesis.

31) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Unusual pulsing signal on 14.320 MHz (Message 1198925) Posted 23 Feb 2012 by cwburch Post: If any direction finding can be done on the signal from the U.S. west coast, I am expecting the signal to be coming from 220 degrees to 340 degrees. DF'd about 30 minutes apart, I expect it not to DF the same compass direction twice. I'm also expecting the frequency of the tones to have a difference of 268 Hz or more.

32) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Unusual pulsing signal on 14.320 MHz (Message 1198703) Posted 23 Feb 2012 by cwburch Post: I'm curious. You say the audio tones are at "about" 500 and 1000 hz. Anyone have the equipment to confirm "exactly" what audio frequencies are being modulated? I've an idea of what it might be, or might be related to. But I don't want to throw my two cents in without knowing the exact audio frequencies being xmited, for fear my ignorance may be discovered. :) -Carl

33) Message boards : News : First Look at Kepler SETI Candidate Signals (Message 1183129) Posted 6 Jan 2012 by cwburch Post: Eric, While I anxiously await further information from additional analysis on these signals, the immediate question I have to ask is, what are "v7 WUs?" I'm also confused as to the dopler effect causing drift. As I understand it, if the distance between the transmitter and receiver are increasing or decreasing at a fixed rate, there would be doppler "shift", and not a drift. If I understand the pyhysics correctly, (and I am not a physics type at all) a frequency drift would indicate that the distance between the transmitter and receiver was not changing at a fixed rate, but at an increasing or decreasing rate. If I'm reading the charts correctly, it would appear that the speed at which the transmitter is travelling away from earth (relative to earth) is increasing over time. Kinda like what I would expect to see from the Voyager deep space probe as it leaves our solar system with a gravitational slingshot into deep space. Some clarification explaining why there is a frequency drift vs. shift would be appreaciated in your deeper analysis post. Obviously, I'm not as educated as well as others in these matters and welcome the opportunity to understand. Thanks. -Carl

34) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Why so far behind? (Message 1182692) Posted 4 Jan 2012 by cwburch Post: I've noticed the WUs I get are 2 or more months old. It seems to me with all the computers on the planet that are crunching these WUs, we should be waiting for WUs to be recorded and digitized. Why am I getting WUs recorded 2 or more months ago?

35) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Do You Have the Skills Necessary to Recognize Intelligence? (Message 1152479) Posted 15 Sep 2011 by cwburch Post: You got it. < ‡ > ∑ <> | £ The first column has no definative meaning. It could be numeric. But probably not. Most likely, it's just the actual shape of the symbol. In the second column, ‡ is interpreted at "plus" or "attached to" or "connected to". The third column has no definitive meaning we can be sure of either, other than the fact that it is a mirror image of the first column. The ∑ symbol in the 4th column can be interpreted as "equals" or "gives you" or "produces". The symbol in the 6th column is the symbols in the 1st and 3rd column put together, but only on odd numbered rows. That 5th column in even numbered rows duplicates the 1st column on that row. Once the above is all figured out, it then becomes apparent that | £ is the symbol for "true" or "correct" or "positive/affirmative" or even "yes" while the | ¿ means "false" or "negative" or "no". For the message sent back, decent choice on characters in the 1st, 3rd and 5th columns. It confirms that you have a basic understanding of at least 4 of their symbols. An area where some were messing this up was with their message (prime numbers for example) all that says is "here I am!" and nothing more. In my first post, "here I am" has already been established and acknoledged on both ends. Another key is that the alien civilization was attempting to "establish" communications; not actually communicate per-se. Well done. -Carl

36) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Do You Have the Skills Necessary to Recognize Intelligence? (Message 1151949) Posted 14 Sep 2011 by cwburch Post: Skildude, Your thought process is on track. But your mention of "numbering scale" indicates a tilt towards math to solve this. Your focus, while in the right direction, is to narrow. Think "outside" the box. You are correct in your assumption that that symbols/characters in the message have no "earthly" meaning. But they do have meaning. I can tell you've done at least 3 minutes of analysis on it, because so far, you have identified 4 symbols/characters that appear in a common pattern. All of the symbols appear in a pattern. It helps if you print out the message and then rotate it 90 degrees. Then, you'll see completely new patterns. That may help. When solved, you should be able to determine the meaning, interpretation or representation of 4 of the symbols. Once solved, you should be able to construct a similar message to transmit back to the alien civilization that will be easy for them to determine the meaning, interpretation or representation of at least 4 of the earthly characters or symbols in the message you construct and send back to them.

37) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Do You Have the Skills Necessary to Recognize Intelligence? (Message 1151926) Posted 14 Sep 2011 by cwburch Post: Prime numbers won't do it. You're assuming to much. If they have a written language, you're assuming their math is base-10, same as ours is. The message received may or may not have elements of math in it, but it's not directly mathematical at all.

38) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Do You Have the Skills Necessary to Recognize Intelligence? (Message 1151789) Posted 13 Sep 2011 by cwburch Post: Do you have the skills necessary to recognize intelligence? Here's the scenario: An alien civilization has made their existence known to you. Additionally, you have taken necessary measures so that this alien civilization knows that you are aware of their existence. Now that each civilization is aware the other exists, the alien civilization is going to attempt to establish communication with you. You have received the below message. Answer/Do the following: A) Determine the meaning of the message. B) Construct a message to send back that will confirm you understand the meaning of their message. BEGIN TRANSMISSION ┌ ‡ ┐ ∑ ┌┐ | £ ┌ ‡ ┐ ∑ ┌ | ¿ ├ ‡ ┤ ∑ ├┤ | £ ├ ‡ ┤ ∑ ┤ | ¿ └ ‡ ┘ ∑ └┘ | £ └ ‡ ┘ ∑ └ | ¿ ≤ ‡ ≥ ∑ ≤≥ | £ ≤ ‡ ≥ ∑ ≥ | ¿ ( ‡ ) ∑ () | £ ( ‡ ) ∑ ( | ¿ END TRANSMISSION

39) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Alien characters pictures. (Message 1149665) Posted 7 Sep 2011 by cwburch Post:

40) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is December 21st, 2012 the day of rekoning? (Message 1129572) Posted 19 Jul 2011 by cwburch Post: Best Case Scenario: December 22, 2011 is the first day of the next long count. This is what I actually believe. Worst Case Scenario: The U.S. Economy is the last one to collapse around December 15th. On December 21st, Obama declares martial law, which means that his predecessor will not be sworn in as the new president. What happens next is anyone's guess, but it won't be pleasant or beneficial to anyone.

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