How do you calculate higher numbers decreases traffic load, I usually find, with always on connection, that BOINC requests more work before next planned connection time.
Also when Berkeley is in recovery mode a large cache will increase traffic load because the host makes a much bigger request for work. And as downloads are restricted to 20 units this can mean many more requests.

To me the whole system seems so fragile and needs to be rethought and designed to be redundant. I know, your going to post back there is no funds available… Don’t even think of asking for a donation at this point other then the CPU time I make available to the project.

Have you got ANY idea how much it would cost to build in redundancy to a project like this? Clearly not...

BOINC by it's very nature has a type of redundancy built in anyway - it's called a CACHE. It is not necessary for your computers to contact Berkeley every few minutes - mine will happily run for a week or more without "talking" to anyone else. I can honestly say, that so far, I have been completely unaffected and unbothered by the recent outages and I don't understand why so many people are complaining about a poorly run (voluntary) project. BOINC is doing, for me, exactly what it is supposed to do - it copes with the downtime.

I saw in some threads that a lot of people are angry now with SETI@home.

And they leave SETI@home.

I cannot understand this..

Maybe they don't know, that everybody can choose how big can be the work on the PCs?


So you would be protected, if the project have little problems.



Here we go:

Your account/Computing preferences/

Computer is connected to the Internet about every x days

and/or

Maintain enough work for an additional x days




BTW.
SETI@home is a nonprofit project.
The servers are not the newest..
If you have little money, give a donation..
And if more people would do this, SETI@home could buy a new server which could make a well job.

I know there is an answer in here somewhere on these boards, however working 12 hours a day 7 days a week for now leaves little time to browse the boards, please forgive the question if so. I have downloaded several AP WU's on all my rigs both Intel and AMD, I see some are running now. I have not added to or
modified my SETI 5.45 with the AK-8 opt. app. to run these AP WU's. How are the WU's able to crunch without doing anything? Are the AP WU's going to error out or was the program self updated? Thank you in advance.

This rig hostid=4256735 is no longer running "optimized" since a "detatch" at 7 Aug 2008 23:10:16 UTC. This host is now running stock client, DLing and running AP WUs without a problem.

Cheers,
JDWhale

I was looking at the top 20 computers and there is someone on like number 20 who joined in june this year with like 400,000 credits.

How is this possible...

This is NOT A COMPLAINT :)

I just want to understand. Im running a 2.4 core 2 and this runs like almost 24/7. Only been live since 23 july i think but only have 2000 cr.

Can you please tell me what is going on? or what is so different.

At this rate it will take me like 5 years to get that much.

Oh also i have set cpu usage to 40% cos I still need to work:)

Also he has like average credit of 8000... how is this possible? and what is it based on?

Thanks

With all due respect, are we really that upset over something that is worth absolutely nothing?

Last time I checked, a million SETI credits wasn't worth a penny.

Maybe they should just give 100 billion credits per WU (of any length) and be done with it.

A nice 32 Core rig..

Quad-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 8354
now at #73.. but maybe soon #1?


8 x Quad-Core !!

Nice.. nice.. :-D



With my QX6700 @ 4 x 3.14 GHz I had in well times a RAC of ~ 6,400. ..AK v8.0 inside.. :-D
A ~ 74 Credit WU in ~ 3,600 seconds

The 8354 @ 32 x 2.21 GHz a ~ 74 Credit WU in ~ 13,000 seconds

Both with AK v8.0 ! :-D


~ 3.5 times longer but 8 times more Cores..
6,400 / 3.61 x 8 = 14,182.82..

So speculation if the AMD is running 24/7 with 100 % SETI@home a RAC of: 14,182.82 ??
Huhhh.. then we have a new #1 rig.. WITH AMD !! :-D

It seems to me that since Astropulse is a totally different project it should be treated as a seperate project. You either join the project or don't join. New type of work unit and new answers, should be new project.

No other project, except Astropluse, requires you to make changes to an existing Seti project app_info.xml file for the new project to work. Makes no sense to me to treat it as the same project. On the other hand, Boinc itself is getting more complex and confusing as it evolves, why not the Seti project?

But with all the secrecy about NEZ and his covert crunching, it's hard to tell what might be going on.......

I guess I'm a little bit puzzled as to what is so special about NEZ.

Like most people who came to SETI, he came for his own reasons. Unlike most people who came here, he posted to the forums, once.

Sure, he cranked out a ton of work while he was here, but he never told us why he came, he hasn't told us he's disillusioned, he hasn't even said he won't be back.

For all we know, he's waiting for new, bigger air conditioners.

If he wants to explain himself, that is his choice. If he doesn't, it is not my place to question him.

Absent comments, I cannot draw any conclusions past "he's gone."

This puppy is awesome!!! Crunching 4 units at a time!!! Really fast to say the least. I would recommend this chip or any of AMD's for crunching.

Keep on Crunchin!!

...won't contact a project with completed tasks more frequently than every 24 hours unless there is a need to fetch more work...

Bingo, that's 'induced oscillation in a hysterisis based control system.

@ Jason: When you start taking into account the various 'slacks' used, variation in deadline tightness factor, and other factors it's already starting to get pretty fuzzy. ;-)
Alinator

LoL, I would use the word 'chaotic' typical of systems using more than seven inputs. 'Fuzzy' implies artificial intelligence tailored to operate more like a human does, so probably should include a 'panic abort all & flush' feature, coupled with a 'cherrypick now' algorithm, and automated "Why is my RAC dropping" forum posting module :-D

Exactly the same issue I am mentioning in this thread, I think.

Well, for one, pledging support is different than actually selling the desired aging OS. For two, I don't think anyone actually thought that BOINC would no longer work on XP considering they just dropped support for Windows 95 in BOINC only recently. I'm sure XP has quite a while to go.


I'm still happy with Vista, and I still contend that its better than XP, IMHO.