Posts by BilBg

1) Message boards : Number crunching : GTX is dead long live RTX !! (Message 1960625)
Posted 17 Oct 2018 by Profile BilBg
Post:
May we ask who has one, so that we can look at the performance of it?
The testing was done by Ray Hinchliffe, as mentioned in message 1956627. He provides BOINC-specific extensions to SIV, but I don't know if he runs SETI.

He was running SETI in the past and this is his account ("red-ray"):
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=9653891

("Last contact 23 Sep 2018" - got a task or two but didn't finish it)
2) Message boards : News : "Are we alone?" on VICE (Message 1941780)
Posted 29 Jun 2018 by Profile BilBg
Post:
On this page there are many links (despite .ru the page is in English and the server have IP in USA)
http://rlsbb.ru/vice-s06e08-hdtv-x264-aaf/

(About 80% of posted links are to deleted files but try those to Cloudyfiles or Suprafiles)

I don't know if in UK there is some "Great Firewall" or ISP filtering/censorship that prevents connecting to some sites.
I have no problem to open these links from Bulgaria:
http://cloudyfiles.org/5rntk5qqwsy1
http://suprafiles.org/vx9fkmmgxshm

If you have - you can try to connect through VPN or proxy, e.g. like this:
https://nl.hideproxy.me/go.php?u=sXcXCAzFBN02X%2FL%2BeO51w50bOSPffRkkdqbaNum%2BwQ%3D%3D&b=5&f=norefer


Or try to use Tor Browser
https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en

 
3) Message boards : News : "Are we alone?" on VICE (Message 1941197)
Posted 25 Jun 2018 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The file VICE.S06E08.720p.HDTV.x264-aAF.mkv (531 MB, AVC+AC3) still exist here:
http://suprafiles.org/3xv2jt5rcrih

(site in Netherlands, download speed 500 KB/s)

English subs:
https://www.upload.ee/files/8602970/VICE.S06E08.720p.HDTV.x264-aAF.srt.zip.html


I got the subs from here:
https://www.podnapisi.net/el/subtitles/en-vice-2013-S06E08-S/u4xF

... then synced/shifted them to this mkv using Subtitle Workshop 6
http://subworkshop.sourceforge.net/

 
4) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows goes to sleep when running SETI@home (Message 1887922)
Posted 4 Sep 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Ideally, I do not want to change Windows Power settings to never go to sleep. How can I keep SETI@home running if I step away for awhile?

People running SETI@home usually set Windows Power Settings to sleep the monitor only, not the computer.

Process Lasso can keep PC awake while some process is running (in this case SETI@home applications)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Process_Lasso

https://bitsum.com/
https://bitsum.com/automation/
5) Questions and Answers : Windows : Just switched Windows OS got account merged. Am I still going to have to go thru mcuda50 etc back to SOG (Message 1887913)
Posted 4 Sep 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I think you can go to computer page:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8323721

then to "Application details - Show":
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=8323721

If you see big "Number of tasks completed" and "Average processing rate" then server knows what is "best" to send for that computer.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Reports on experiments with a Dell Optiplex 7010 Microtower (Message 1882213)
Posted 5 Aug 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I've NEVER seen the value set being "obeyed".

The value is obeyed by BOINC, to run less CPU tasks and nothing more.
Else how everybody see it works to "free a core" (as they say)

Why don't you just try <cpu_usage>1.5 and you should see that the running CPU tasks is reduced by:
4*1.5 = 6 (i.e. if you just run 8 CPU tasks now only 2 will run)

- just try to not exceed the available to BOINC CPUs in which case some of the GPU tasks will be stopped by BOINC,
e.g. 4*3.0 = 12 so on 8 "cores" BOINC will probably start only 2 GPU tasks (for each of which BOINC will think 3 cores are needed)

Other calculations:
4*1.49 = 5.96 = 5 less
4*0.99 = 3.96 = 3 less
4*0.75 = 3 less
4*0.50 = 2 less
4*0.24 = 0.96 = 0 less (i.e. the # of running CPU tasks will not be reduced)


If one sets cpu_usage to say 0.1, and then run 4 GPU tasks one would reasonably expect to see one CPU thread/core used by all four tasks, but what one actually see is four CPU threads/cores used

You may "expect to see one CPU thread/core used" but the apps don't react on this value, only BOINC does.
Rename <cpu_usage> to <if-this-gpu-app-is-running-reduce-the-number-of-running-cpu-apps-by> to understand what it tells to BOINC (and do not tell anything to apps)


The observation does not support your theory.

Ask someone that knows BOINC well and whom you trust to check and comment on my posts here.
 
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Reports on experiments with a Dell Optiplex 7010 Microtower (Message 1882161)
Posted 4 Aug 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Where did I say "setting GPU usage above 1.0"?

In your previous post!!!
<cpu_usage>1.10</cpu_usage>

So you bolded <cpu_usage> to show me that I say "setting GPU usage above 1.0"? ;)



For example - on my Windows computer I have four SoG tasks running, with cpu_usage=0.1; according to your theory, that would only set 0.4 core/thread aside (probably rounded up to 1) for the four tasks, however each task is actually using approximately one complete core, and four cores/threads are used.

"According to my theory" cpu_usage=0.1 will Not "set 0.4 core/thread aside" (nor 1)
BOINC will not change the number of started (running) CPU apps/tasks (which is all the "cpu_usage" tag is used for)

CPUpool = RoundUp ( CPUpool - cpu_usage * RunningGPUtasksNum )
CPUpool = RoundUp ( 8 - 0.1 * 4 )
CPUpool = RoundUp ( 7.6 )
CPUpool = 8
= no change


... and four cores/threads are used

BOINC do not monitor or control CPU load in any way.
BOINC do not know what will be (or what is in fact) the real CPU load.
Setting something in app_config.xml it is up to the user if near-to-reality values are typed or if the user want to lie to BOINC (which BOINC will happily obey)

For the test of possible bug I suggested to purposefully lie to BOINC to see if this will workaround the bug.

On stock apps the same info is supplied by the server.


The best place to "reserve" CPU cores/threads is in the BOINC manager ... "use at most xx% of the CPUs"

"cpu_usage" tag in app_config.xml have absolutely the same purpose.
Think of it as [automatically change "use at most xx% of the CPUs"] when GPU tasks are running.
 
8) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Can you use the app_info.xml aka: anonymous platform to cause the SOG app to process the Cuda42/50 data files? (Message 1882148)
Posted 4 Aug 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Can you use the app_info.xml aka: anonymous platform to cause the SOG app to process the Cuda42/50 data files?

Of course, as "data files" are not different.
There is no such thing as "Cuda32/42/50 data files"


would it be possible to use the same technique to have the stock seti SOG app process all the Cuda32/42/50
...
to hack together an "app_info.xml" file

That is contradiction - using app_info.xml disables getting any apps from the project server. (so the config is no more stock)

If you mean to use the "stock seti SOG app" (the .exe/.dll/.cl files themselves) under Anonymous platform instead of the .exe/.dll/.cl files included in Lunatics' Installer:
- save/copy the .exe/.dll/.cl files of the "stock seti SOG app"
- install Lunatics
- copy back the .exe/.dll/.cl files of the "stock seti SOG app" to the SETI@home directory
- edit app_info.xml - global replace the filenames (.exe/.dll/.cl) from the "Lunatics names" to the "stock seti SOG app" names
You may also edit <version_num> of OpenCL sections to match the stock (to not lose tasks)
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Reports on experiments with a Dell Optiplex 7010 Microtower (Message 1882111)
Posted 4 Aug 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
When running SETI there is no point is setting GPU usage above 1.0

Where did I say "setting GPU usage above 1.0"?


- the current batch of SETI applications do not have the ability to use more than 1 cpu core/thread.

So? Why this should matter?


<cpu_usage>1.00</cpu_usage> is best interpreted as "Try to use 1.0 cpu cores/thread", it does NOT mean "Use exactly 1.00 cpu core/thread".

This is not telling the app anything
(app don't know of the existence of the <cpu_usage>1.00</cpu_usage> tag,
app don't read app_config.xml nor BOINC is limiting or forcing the app to use that amount.
So nothing is telling the app "Try to use 1.0 cpu cores/thread" nor "Use exactly 1.00 cpu core/thread"
)

This have nothing to do with "the ability to use more than 1 cpu core/thread"

app_config.xml is only interpreted by BOINC
<cpu_usage>x.xx</cpu_usage> is telling BOINC (and not the app) to remove that # of CPUs from the pool available for CPU tasks (and nothing more)


(Without reading the BOINC source) this will be something like:
CPUpool = RoundUp ( CPUpool - cpu_usage * RunningGPUtasksNum )

If the behaviour described by Tom Miller is true I suspect there may be some (rounding?) bug in BOINC so I suggest to test it.
You can set <cpu_usage>3.00</cpu_usage> and BOINC should reduce the # of running CPU tasks by 3
This does not mean that the app or anything will use/load the "free cores"

You know that if <cpu_usage>0.99</cpu_usage> BOINC will not "reserve a core"
So I suspect that converting from decimal to binary may lead to a variable be set to e.g. <cpu_usage>0.999999999999999</cpu_usage> instead of 1.00000000000000000
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Reports on experiments with a Dell Optiplex 7010 Microtower (Message 1882079)
Posted 4 Aug 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:

<app_config>
 <app>
  <name>setiathome_v8</name>
  <gpu_versions>
  <gpu_usage>1.00</gpu_usage>
  <cpu_usage>1.00</cpu_usage>
  </gpu_versions>
 </app>
</app_config>

If those are your settings, it's doing exactly as you've told it to do.
Save 1 CPU core for each GPU WU that is running.

But I have 7 cpu tasks running and a gpu task running using 1 core. 7+1=8 (normal)
Under CSG/Rosetta I have 8 cpu tasks running and a gpu task running using 1 core. 8+1=9 tasks.

Is this "gpu task running" always a setiathome_v8 GPU task?

If so there may be some rounding bug in BOINC
(or (unlikely) Rosetta@home server sets that each CPU task will need 0.85 CPUs)

Try this:
<app_config>
 <app>
  <name>setiathome_v8</name>
  <gpu_versions>
  <gpu_usage>1.00</gpu_usage>
  <cpu_usage>1.10</cpu_usage>
  </gpu_versions>
 </app>
</app_config>

If this works - try for test <cpu_usage>1.01</cpu_usage> or even <cpu_usage>1.000001</cpu_usage>
If it doesn't work - try for test <cpu_usage>1.99</cpu_usage>
(After every change restart the GPU task, e.g. by Snooze GPU)


I did look at the task manager and it still says 8 cpus.

How many CPU processes started by BOINC do you see? (for this Process Explorer is better - shows them as child processes of boinc.exe)
11) Questions and Answers : Web site : What's up with the date stamp? (Message 1881871)
Posted 3 Aug 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time
12) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1881428)
Posted 31 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Don't have access to the source right now

I can tell you in PM how to get it ;)


but I think I did a win version check at the top and limited it to 7+

No, I see only this:

set QO_BOINCver=7
set QO_PROC_2=boinccmd.exe
...
rem                                             ; verify boinc version
call "%QO_BOINCPath%%QO_PROC_2%" --version| FINDSTR /I "%QO_BOINCver%">nul
IF NOT ERRORLEVEL 1 goto BOINCver_OK
	ECHO. BOINC is not running Version %QO_BOINCver%
	ECHO. Exiting ...
	goto EXIT_MSG
:BOINCver_OK

(I see now the check is too fuzzy, e.g. will think 6.10.57 or 5.6.7 as BOINC v7 (BOINC can't be 6.7.x unless it is alpha/beta)
Maybe need:
set QO_BOINCver=7.
)


Good to see you, Bil

Hello :)
13) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1881408)
Posted 31 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I am also confused about the documentation saying that this command will only work for a Lunatics distro?

It will only work on a system that had it's applications installed using the Lunatics Installer.

Why?

It was a long time since I read the code for both the C++ program (GUPPI Rescheduler 0.51 C++ Source Code.cpp) and the .cmd (QOpt_1_02k.cmd)
But I don't remember anything that will specifically target Lunatics apps.

From QOpt_1_02k.cmd

set QO_filenm=QOpt
...
ECHO.---------------------------------------------------------------
ECHO   Usage:
ECHO.  %QO_filenm% [-h] [-u] [-t] [-l] [-a] [-cx] [-k] [-m] [-b] [-r] [-y]
ECHO.
ECHO   Optional parameters:
ECHO.
ECHO    ?   Display this Options list
ECHO   -h   Display Help file - READ ME FIRST!
...
ECHO.  %QO_filenm% requires the following minimum environment:
ECHO.    1. Windows 7 or higher,
ECHO.    2. BOINC 7.x is installed and running and has been using SETI@home GPU apps
ECHO        to process work units. The GPU apps are commonly known as Cuda50, SoG,
ECHO.       SaH, etc. They are either automatically installed by the SETI web site,
ECHO        or set up using the Lunatics (v0.44 or greater) setup program.
ECHO.    3. GUPPIRescheduler 0.51 or higher is running successfully.
pause
ECHO.
ECHO.  %QO_filenm% may be installed and run from any directory. It will find and use
ECHO.  the file paths and directories you specified when installing BOINC. 


I also think "1. Windows 7 or higher," is old info (as now the .cmd "query registry for BOINC paths", previously it was hard-coded C:\ProgramData\BOINC)

( -h "Display Help file" shows info from inside the .cmd/.exe, not from external .txt )
14) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : SOLVED - GPUs missing starting boinc with command line; GPUs present when boinc started with BOINC manager (Message 1881375)
Posted 31 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
That was discussed earlier in:
"BOINC portable" for Windows hosts
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=81632

The same answer:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=81632&postid=1876642#1876642

My normal BOINC startup .bat file:
pushd %~dp0
boinc.exe --detach
Result: GPUs detected, data folder the same as boinc.exe

A BOINC startup .bat w/o specifying extension for boinc.exe
pushd %~dp0
boinc --detach
Result: No GPUs detected, data folder the same as boinc.exe


(Anyone interested can read the entire thread for more info.
Two important posts by Juha:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=81632&postid=1875986#1875986
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=81632&postid=1876279#1876279
)
15) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Recover profile with inactive email? (Message 1881366)
Posted 31 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
...back to trying to guess Me-in-1999's password...

edit: funny enough, I originally joined 21 days after you, Ageless!

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=371471

But this is classic account ! - so you don't need a password, just the email used:

Steps:
- Do NOT log-out your current account (userid=10521897)
- Go to:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php

- Enter your old "classic" email (that was used for userid=371471)

= the 2 accounts will be "merged"

___________________________

For the record - this is how the accounts look now:


lunney
User ID 371471
SETI@home member since 30 Jun 1999
Country United States
URL http://www.arches.uga.edu/~lunney/
Total credit 0
Recent average credit 0.00
SETI@home classic workunits 524
SETI@home classic CPU time 21,361 hours
Computers View


Mike L.
User ID 10521897
SETI@home member since 20 Jun 2017
Country United States
Total credit 818,722
Recent average credit 18,638.21
Computers View

_________________________

They will look like this after "merge":


lunney
User ID 371471
SETI@home member since 30 Jun 1999
Country United States
URL http://www.arches.uga.edu/~lunney/
Total credit 0
Recent average credit 0.00
Computers View


Mike L.
User ID 10521897
SETI@home member since 30 Jun 1999
Country United States
Total credit 818,722
Recent average credit 18,638.21
SETI@home classic workunits 524
SETI@home classic CPU time 21,361 hours
Computers View

____________


You will be using the changed account with User ID 10521897
16) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Instructions for new password (Message 1881361)
Posted 31 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This is all known information.

You started this thread by using your old account - so you know the email+password for it. (?)

So what is the problem?

If you know the email+password for your old account - log-in (if successful I don't see the problem. If needed check/change email if it is wrong/not-existing)

If you are already log-in in the browser but you forget password (i.e. only the browser remember that you are logged-in (in a cookie, for one year)):
- Read/Copy/Save the info from this page (Your account - Account keys - View)
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/weak_auth.php

__________________

I just tested (and all is OK):

- I Copy/Paste my Email address (that is used for this account here on SETI@home) on this page:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/get_passwd.php

a) Result (on page here):
"Email sent
Instructions have been emailed to xxxxxxx@yyy.bg.
If the email doesn't arrive in a few minutes, your ISP may be blocking it as spam. In this case please contact your ISP and ask them to not block email from setiweb@ssl.berkeley.edu.
"

b) Result (in my email):
- Only seconds later I received an email:
"
SETI@home account information
от: "SETI@home" (setiweb@ssl.berkeley.edu)
дата: 31.07.2017 20:16
до: xxxxxxx@yyy.bg
This email was sent in response to a request on the SETI@home web site.

To log in to your SETI@home account, visit:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/login_action.php?id=8647488&t=tttttt999tttttt&h=zzzzzz12345zzzzzz
(This link is valid for 1 day).
After logging in, you can change your account's password or email address.

For further information and assistance with SETI@home, visit
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/
"

_______________


Second test with "random" email gives (on page here):

"No such user
There is no user with email address jhsklcjnijoiwcuoiyuuywh@yyy.bg.
Try reentering your email address.
"
17) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC default preferences. (Message 1881324)
Posted 31 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Not the correct answer or reply here, unfortunately.

It is correct answer. Unfortunately you did not understand it.

Go to:
Computing preferences

Edit preferences
       (no need to change anything)
[Update preferences]

From BOINC Manager: [Update] SETI@home

Now look in Event Log to see that "General prefs: " will be from SETI@home
18) Questions and Answers : Windows : New version of Win10 not running BOINC Screensaver (Message 1879468)
Posted 21 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What happens is that a 1/2 sized BOINC icon slowly circles a black screen, sometimes for minutes and sometimes for hours. Below this orbiting icon it says "BOINC screensaver loading." This may, at times, stop after a few minutes and the 3 or 4 different BOINC data screens will pop up and cycle along with what I call the colorful "noise box." BUT, sometimes it does NOT "load" and I see the small icon circling or hours. As I said, the screensaver is intermittent.

What Antivirus and Firewall do you use?

This is only for test:
! You may first disconnect the LAN cable from the computer to avoid new unknown files to come from Internet. (if on laptop - there should be a button to stop Wi-Fi)
Try to switch OFF Antivirus (Real-time protection) and the Firewall

Set BOINC screensaver at small delay (1 minute) and wait.

After test is done (was there any difference?):
Switch ON Antivirus (Real-time protection) and the Firewall
Connect the LAN cable

(I don't know if the Windows Defender Antivirus in Windows 10 and Microsoft Firewall can be switched Off and how (if possible only by 'Group Policy' - it's not for you))
19) Questions and Answers : Windows : New version of Win10 not running BOINC Screensaver (Message 1878520)
Posted 16 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Does the "Noise box" display when you select it directly from the menu after you select a cpu task in BOINC?

I don't know what you mean? What menu is that and how do I select a 'cpu task?'

Not a menu:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Advanced_view#The_Tasks_tab

On Tasks tab
- Select Running CPU task          (click on row that say (in Status column) "Running" and do Not say ATI AMD nor NVIDIA)
- Click [Show graphics] button

This will start directly SETI@home screensaver (setigraphics_8.00_windows_intelx86.exe)


A few days ago BilBg, a Volunteer tester, posted that the screensaver DID work!

No - I only say that your GPU works OK for SETI@home Computing with links to your tasks as evidence.
(I don't use/have Windows 10)


Note:
BOINC screensaver (boinc.scr + boincscr.exe) have Settings
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/BOINC_screensaver

e.g. "Run project screensavers for" is maybe now set at 4 minutes and may be changed to e.g. 30 minutes for longer 'noise'
20) Questions and Answers : Wish list : I wish for a Lunatics installer that.... (Message 1878517)
Posted 16 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
And I don't think setigraphics can work with the GPU apps
Why not?

Because the GPU app (MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r3557.exe) listed in your example of app_info.xml do not have code to communicate with setigraphics_8.00_windows_intelx86.exe
The code is removed or disabled (ask Raistmer to clarify)
21) Questions and Answers : Wish list : I wish for a Lunatics installer that.... (Message 1877552)
Posted 9 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The installer have the Stock application inside:
setiathome_8.00_windows_intelx86.exe
setigraphics_8.00_windows_intelx86.exe




And I don't think setigraphics can work with the GPU apps
22) Questions and Answers : Windows : New version of Win10 not running BOINC Screensaver (Message 1877477)
Posted 8 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
All the reports on the 2 pages you mentioned ...

I didn't link to any pages with reports, the links point to your tasks (which are OK)
I didn't comment anything in the last post about "BOINC screensaver" nor "SETI@home screensaver" (which are different files/things)

If you select Running CPU task and click [Show graphics] do you see something similar? (and can you post your image?):

23) Questions and Answers : Windows : spikes (Message 1877473)
Posted 8 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Its called Tthortle

You try to type this difficult word? ;)

I use abbreviations:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73694

So I type tt` to get TThrottle
And type ttl` to get TThrottle


P.S.
Some other abbreviations:

abb` abbreviations
b` BOINC
bm` BOINC Manager
s` SETI@home
rs` Resource share
nnt` No New Tasks

btl` BoincTasks
bmm` BOINC Manager Menu
cpl` Computing preferences
spl` SETI@home preferences

Raw:
btl` [url=http://efmer.com/b/boinctasks]BoincTasks[/url]
bmm` [url=http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Advanced_view#BOINC_Manager_Menus]BOINC Manager Menu[/url]
cpl` [url=http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global]Computing preferences[/url]
spl` [url=http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project]SETI@home preferences[/url]


dd` BOINC Data directory
sd` SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)
tm` Windows Task Manager
pex` Process Explorer
be` boinc.exe
bme` boincmgr.exe

c/` Copy/Paste
[e` [Enter]
c+` Ctrl+
a+` Alt+
s+` Shift+

0c` °C
0f` °F
us` µs

kr` Krisia Todorova
кр` Крисия Тодорова

..............
24) Questions and Answers : Windows : Abandoned Tasks (Message 1877466)
Posted 8 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
How long will it take the "abandoned tasks" to roll off so I get more Seti tasks?

These two events are not connected:
"How long will it take the "abandoned tasks" to roll off" - until the WUs are "Completed and validated" by 2 other computers

"so I get more Seti tasks":
I don't see any "Max tasks per day" = 1
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=7327799

... so check your Preferences if they allow CPU tasks.
If they are OK - wait 1 day
25) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics beta6 and using 2 different gpus? (Message 1877455)
Posted 8 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
<file_ref>
<file_name>MultiBeam_NV_config.xml</file_name>
</file_ref>

<file_ref>
<file_name>mb_cmdline_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_SoG.txt</file_name>
<open_name>mb_cmdline.txt</open_name>

Hi,
It sounds counter intuitive. Normally a file listed after another file would replace the equivalent parameters from the first file.

No

A) Both files (will) exist in SETI@home directory so both have to be described in app_info.xml (no matter in which order)

BOINC reads app_info.xml and only looks if the files exist, BOINC does not read those files.
OTOH app don't know what is in app_info.xml (does not read it)


B) Both files (mb_cmdline.txt and MultiBeam_NV_config.xml) are read by the app so it is up to the app programmer (Raistmer) how and in which order they are interpreted.

I think the order is :

0) App sets all values to default
(imagine there is table in RAM which is filled with values for all parameters)


1) Direct switches in app_info.xml :
<cmdline>-sbs 512</cmdline>

... which means BOINC will start the app like this:
MB8_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_SoG_r3557.exe -sbs 512
(in the table in RAM the value for -sbs is set/changed)


2) App reads mb_cmdline.txt
(Yes, the app looks for and sees that name only (in 'slots') and <soft_link> in it redirects to the real file.
If you run app offline (outside BOINC, for test) the real file have to be named mb_cmdline.txt and not anything different
)
Any switches in mb_cmdline.txt that are also present in the <cmdline> will have the new values from mb_cmdline.txt

E.g. the following will set 3 new values (and -sbs will become 256):
-period_iterations_num 10 -hp -sbs 256

But this will set 2 new values (and -sbs will stay unchanged at 512):
-period_iterations_num 10 -hp

All other parameters remain at default values as per "0)"


3) App reads MultiBeam_NV_config.xml
You can e.g. set/change here only some parameters for only one of the GPUs (e.g. GPU #2)

I imagine app creates copy of the "table in RAM" and changes these "some parameters" only in that "table #2" which will be used for GPU #2
GPU #1 will use the "original table" created in previous steps 0) ... 2)

Moral:
The last interpreted replaces the same settings used in previously interpreted.
 
26) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Photobucket (Message 1877432)
Posted 8 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
These sites can be used to post images here (even no account needed, unless you want to)
http://postimages.org/

http://picbg.net/

The second may start in Bulgarian but there is English flag at top-right (click that)
(text at the top "This site is for sale" stays there for 3-4 years)

"direct link" given by picbg.net for seti_logo_final.png (1000 x 200 Pixels)
http://store.picbg.net/pubpic/AD/87/91ff74d80d14ad87.png




The site has very simplistic interface.

Main page:




After Upload:

27) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics beta6 and using 2 different gpus? (Message 1877422)
Posted 8 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I am going to have to try and get this Multibeam_NV_config.xml working ...

It should not be too difficult to edit app_info.xml
You should have the file Multibeam_NV_config.xml (even empty) in SETI@home directory before trying to start BOINC with changed app_info.xml

Note: I don't think Caps matter in filenames on Windows but the exact name from inside the .exe (Copy/Paste) is:
MultiBeam_NV_config.xml

I think it is enough to change only the first (topmost) section, from MB8_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV.aistub this is:

    <app>
        <name>setiathome_v8</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>MB8_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_SoG_r3557.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>libfftw3f-3-3-4_x86.dll</name>
	<executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r3557.cl</name>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>mb_cmdline_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_SoG.txt</name>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_v8</app_name>
        <version_num>819</version_num>
        <platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
        <api_version>7.5.0</api_version>
        <avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>
        <plan_class>opencl_nvidia_SoG</plan_class>
        	<cmdline></cmdline>	
	<coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>MB8_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_SoG_r3557.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>libfftw3f-3-3-4_x86.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r3557.cl</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>mb_cmdline_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_SoG.txt</file_name>
            <open_name>mb_cmdline.txt</open_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>



First Copy/Paste two existing parts (<file_info> and <file_ref>, I used where it say MultiBeam_Kernels_r3557.cl):

    <app>
        <name>setiathome_v8</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>MB8_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_SoG_r3557.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>libfftw3f-3-3-4_x86.dll</name>
	<executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r3557.cl</name>
    </file_info>

    <file_info>
        <name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r3557.cl</name>
    </file_info>

    <file_info>
        <name>mb_cmdline_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_SoG.txt</name>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_v8</app_name>
        <version_num>819</version_num>
        <platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
        <api_version>7.5.0</api_version>
        <avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>
        <plan_class>opencl_nvidia_SoG</plan_class>
        	<cmdline></cmdline>	
	<coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>MB8_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_SoG_r3557.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>libfftw3f-3-3-4_x86.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r3557.cl</file_name>
        </file_ref>

        <file_ref>
            <file_name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r3557.cl</file_name>
        </file_ref>

        <file_ref>
            <file_name>mb_cmdline_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_SoG.txt</file_name>
            <open_name>mb_cmdline.txt</open_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>



Then change in the Copies (both <file_info> and <file_ref>) the MultiBeam_Kernels_r3557.cl with MultiBeam_NV_config.xml

    <app>
        <name>setiathome_v8</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>MB8_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_SoG_r3557.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>libfftw3f-3-3-4_x86.dll</name>
	<executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r3557.cl</name>
    </file_info>

    <file_info>
        <name>MultiBeam_NV_config.xml</name>
    </file_info>

    <file_info>
        <name>mb_cmdline_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_SoG.txt</name>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_v8</app_name>
        <version_num>819</version_num>
        <platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
        <api_version>7.5.0</api_version>
        <avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>
        <plan_class>opencl_nvidia_SoG</plan_class>
        	<cmdline></cmdline>	
	<coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>MB8_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_SoG_r3557.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>libfftw3f-3-3-4_x86.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r3557.cl</file_name>
        </file_ref>

        <file_ref>
            <file_name>MultiBeam_NV_config.xml</file_name>
        </file_ref>

        <file_ref>
            <file_name>mb_cmdline_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_SoG.txt</file_name>
            <open_name>mb_cmdline.txt</open_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>


! DON'T type anything, only Copy/Paste !
 
28) Message boards : Number crunching : missing wu (Message 1877410)
Posted 8 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You should exit BOINC, then run the installer, then restart BOINC.

Will not help (as I explained)

See the Version # here:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

... and compare to <version_num> in .aistub files.

(Open the installer by 7-Zip and see for yourself)

e.g. you can't find v8.22 in the (very big) MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5.aistub , the highest in it is <version_num>820</version_num>
29) Message boards : Number crunching : missing wu (Message 1877401)
Posted 8 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5848622280
Name 13fe17aa.10422.395680.7.34.26.vlar_0

Not your fault.
The last Lunatics installer was made many months ago (in Nov 2016) and some of <version_num> inside are not up to date.
The installer was OK (i.e. the old tasks were preserved) at the time of release.

Your task was labelled "SETI@home v8 v8.05 windows_x86_64"
but in .aistub files (from which is generated app_info.xml) there is only <version_num>800</version_num> (= v8.00)

This is MB8_win_x64_SSE3_VS2008.aistub found inside Lunatics_Win64_v0.45_Beta6-for-SoG_setup.exe

<app_info> 
    <app>
        <name>setiathome_v8</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>MB8_win_x64_SSE3_VS2008_r3330.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>libfftw3f-3-3-4_x64.dll</name>
	<executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
 	<name>mb_cmdline_win_x64_SSE3_VS2008.txt</name>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_v8</app_name>
        <version_num>800</version_num>
        <platform>windows_x86_64</platform>
        <api_version>7.5.0</api_version>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>MB8_win_x64_SSE3_VS2008_r3330.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>libfftw3f-3-3-4_x64.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>mb_cmdline_win_x64_SSE3_VS2008.txt</file_name>
            <open_name>mb_cmdline.txt</open_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_v8</app_name>
        <version_num>800</version_num>
        <platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
        <api_version>7.5.0</api_version>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>MB8_win_x64_SSE3_VS2008_r3330.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>libfftw3f-3-3-4_x64.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>mb_cmdline_win_x64_SSE3_VS2008.txt</file_name>
            <open_name>mb_cmdline.txt</open_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
</app_info>



P.S.

@Richard Haselgrove

Maybe you can think of some logic in installer that will:
- find all <version_num> in .aistub
- search for them in client_state.xml
- if none is found let user know (e.g. "You may lose tasks") and ask to [Continue] or not with installation


Or opposite (in absolutely rubbish pseudo-code):

Search in client_state.xml for any of these strings:
<master_url>http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/</master_url>
<project_name>SETI@home</project_name>

(If not found - SETI@home is not Added (attached) in this BOINC)

Set pointer P1 to that place
P1++

Search starting from P1 for next <master_url> (If not found you are at EOF)
Set pointer P2 to that place

Now you know SETI@home segment is between P1 and P2

From P1 to P2 {
         Pa1 = find <app_version>
         Pa2 = find </app_version>

         From Pa1 to Pa2:
                  find and remember <app_name> <version_num> <plan_class>

         find that combination of <app_name> <version_num> <plan_class> in any of .aistub which will be used (selected by user)
         if not found - Warn user
}
30) Questions and Answers : Preferences : time frequency power graph question (Message 1877186)
Posted 6 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
There is some problem (incompatibility) in Intel Graphics drivers (OpenGL part) (some Intel driver versions may work OK with SETI@home screensaver, some may not)
(There is no such problem on NVIDIA or ATI AMD)

It was reported many times some 4-5 years ago, e.g. "Empty Frequency-Power-Time graph":
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69101
31) Questions and Answers : Windows : New version of Win10 not running BOINC Screensaver (Message 1877179)
Posted 6 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
how to make my AMD work properly with BOINC

But it works properly:
Valid tasks "SETI@home v8 v8.22 (opencl_ati5_cat132)" and "SETI@home v8 v8.22 (opencl_ati5_SoG_cat132)"
(and "Invalid (0) · Error (0)")
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8225092&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=

... and more (finished OK) are in "Validation pending":
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8225092&offset=0&show_names=0&state=2&appid=
32) Questions and Answers : Windows : USER INFO (Message 1876264)
Posted 1 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Какой вопрос?
Google Translate тебе поможет?
https://translate.google.com/?hl=ru&tab=wT
33) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Balancing Mcuda50 and SOG work (Message 1876253)
Posted 1 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The way to do that is the "Lunatics installer":

Open Beta test: SoG for NVidia, Lunatics v0.45 - Beta6 (RC again)
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79704&postid=1791791#1791791

The post about "Beta 6":
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79704&postid=1829188#1829188

The installer (~20 MB) have all the applications inside, CPU apps are optimized (AVX, SSE3) and faster than the stock but don't have graphics/screensaver.

But since it (Lunatics v0.45 - Beta6) was released long ago you may at first lose the tasks in the computer.
(some version numbers in the installer may not match the currently used)

So set No New Tasks, finish tasks you have, and only then try the install (better exit BOINC first).

(The installer have 4-5 pages with [Next] buttons and in fact do not make real changes until user click [Install] button on the last page
You have to select All the apps that you want to run (e.g. for CPU)
Only the apps you select will be run; e.g. if you select only CUDA50 (and uncheck all the other) no CPU tasks will be run and no AstroPulse
)

Note:
if you select e.g. CUDA50 all the tasks on the GPU will be run by the CUDA50
Don't be confused that BOINC Manager will continue to show them (the "old" tasks) as "SoG" or CUDA42
Check by Windows Task Manager what .exe is really running.

The new Downloaded tasks will have the correct label in BOINC Manager
34) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Auto-update clients when account e-amail changed (Message 1876246)
Posted 1 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This only shows that the attempt to change the email address in SETI@home account was unsuccessful (any error message?)
or you have 2 accounts and changed the wrong one?
35) Message boards : Number crunching : New binary to test on beta (Message 1876234)
Posted 1 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
but the 'show graphic' button on this machine remains greyed out despite selecting a running task

It have to be:
Running
SETI@home
CPU
Stock

i.e. Not GPU and Not optimized (e.g. AVX or SSE3 apps don't have graphics)

Check in Windows Task Manager what .exe is actually Running
36) Message boards : Number crunching : New binary to test on beta (Message 1876230)
Posted 1 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Did all and graphics still sway to and fro ...

Check if init_data.xml have:
<roll_period>0</roll_period>
<roll_range>0</roll_range>
<pitch_period>0</pitch_period>
<pitch_range>0</pitch_range>

If not (and you already Restarted BOINC) - you may have home / school / work Preferences and you changed the wrong "Location"
Or you have/see another account in the browser (e.g. of friend) and changed that.

Or you changed Preferences here and not at SETI@home BETA

Look in file account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml and account_setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu_beta.xml
for the same 4 rows above - do they have 0s
Watch also for line like this:
<venue name="school">
This shows there exist "Separate preferences for school"
37) Message boards : Number crunching : "BOINC portable" for Windows hosts (Message 1876217)
Posted 1 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Data directory: D:\Boinc.6.12.43
Data directory: D:\Boinc.7.0.42
...
Data directory: D:\Boinc.7.6.33

How did you made every BOINC version to use different BOINC Data directory?
Did you edit the Registry?

Or boinc.exe is in the BOINC Data directory? i.e. :
boinc.exe v6.12.43 is in D:\Boinc.6.12.43
boinc.exe v7.6.33 is in D:\Boinc.7.6.33

And Registry do not have any BOINC info?
38) Message boards : Number crunching : "BOINC portable" for Windows hosts (Message 1876210)
Posted 1 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Addition:
Strings coproc_info and detect_gpus are not found in "my" BOINC 6.10.58
i.e. search for them as ANSI, Unicode or UTF8 in all files in BOINC Program (install) directory do not find them in any file.

But e.g. run_cpu_benchmarks is found in boinc.exe as ANSI and around it is block of ~20 other switches:
--version
-version
.......
--abort_jobs_on_exit
-abort_jobs_on_exit

(every switch is listed 2 times with -- and -)

String client_state_prev is also found so any switch or filename is in clear text in boinc.exe
(Some are generic like sched_request_)
39) Message boards : Number crunching : "BOINC portable" for Windows hosts (Message 1876176)
Posted 1 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Yes, it is "usual setup with BOINC manager" (boinc.exe is started by boincmgr.exe)

I don't know if coproc_info.xml is created (it may be created and then deleted?) - I didn't tested.
I just put coproc in SwiftSearch and no filename is found.

(by the way SwiftSearch searches in RAM the pre-loaded $MFT files.
So if you created new files (and want they to be found) use F5 in SwiftSearch to read again $MFT or restart SwiftSearch
If files are on FAT32 (usual e.g. for Flash drives) - remember to use "conventional" methods to find them.
)

I don't know if the same mechanism (second boinc.exe that detects GPU) is used on old BOINC 6.10.58
Searching for string <engineClock> in all files in BOINC Data directory (by Total Commander) finds info about GPU only in
sched_request_*.xml and init_data.xml files (which are sorta Tmp files so seems BOINC keeps this info only in memory):

<coproc_ati>
   <count>1</count>
   <name>ATI Radeon HD 6570 (NI TURKS) {ASUS EAH6570/DI/1GD3(LP)}</name>
   <req_secs>57903.757778</req_secs>
   <req_instances>0.000000</req_instances>
   <estimated_delay>0.000000</estimated_delay>
   <target>18</target>
   <localRAM>1024</localRAM>
   <uncachedRemoteRAM>128</uncachedRemoteRAM>
   <cachedRemoteRAM>64</cachedRemoteRAM>
   <engineClock>800</engineClock>
   <memoryClock>1050</memoryClock>
   <wavefrontSize>64</wavefrontSize>
   <numberOfSIMD>6</numberOfSIMD>
   <doublePrecision>0</doublePrecision>
   <pitch_alignment>256</pitch_alignment>
   <surface_alignment>256</surface_alignment>
   <maxResource1DWidth>16384</maxResource1DWidth>
   <maxResource2DWidth>16384</maxResource2DWidth>
   <maxResource2DHeight>16384</maxResource2DHeight>
   <CALVersion>1.4.1646</CALVersion>
    <atirt_detected/>
</coproc_ati>


Note: the <name> tag is hard-patched by me in boinc.exe (was "ATI unknown")

You can try ProcessActivityView to find what boinc.exe do at startup
(Ctrl+N in it to start boinc.exe with parameters)
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/process_activity_view.html
40) Message boards : Number crunching : "BOINC portable" for Windows hosts (Message 1876156)
Posted 1 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I can't find (there is no) coproc_info on my computer (in fact no file with coproc in the name)
BOINC 6.10.58 is running now on:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4832843

I used SwiftSearch which "Searches NTFS volumes almost instantly" (with the speed of Google)
I have 9 partitions on 3 HDDs (7 of them NTFS)

There is no install, only small exe you run:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/swiftsearch/
41) Message boards : Number crunching : New binary to test on beta (Message 1876154)
Posted 1 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
. . So now the box is running the graphic which seems rather uninformative to me. I guess if something interesting occurs there will be a big spike in the middle of the 3D graph??

From top menu here:
Science -> About SETI@home -> Screensaver graphics explained
http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/screensaver/index.html

The graph do not show all the calculations, maybe one in 1000 or 10 000 (?) else the computing will be too slow.
42) Message boards : Number crunching : Why do ATI gpu's have arround 8 variations for GPU processing? (Message 1876147)
Posted 1 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

The applications (.exe variants) are only 3

opencl_ati_ - for all ATI AMD >= HD 4xxx
opencl_ati5_ - "normal" variant for all ATI AMD >= HD 5xxx
opencl_ati5_SoG - SoG variant for all ATI AMD >= HD 5xxx

Every one of those 3 apps have 3 <plan_class>es (for a total of 3*3=9)
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/plan_class_spec.xml

Driver version 13.1 is bad so the server have to avoid computers with Catalyst 13.1
http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet.htm

The same app (.exe) may be sent to Catalyst 11.12 ... 12.10 (i.e. < 13.1) by <plan_class> ending by _sah or _SoG
and to Catalyst 13.4+ (i.e. > 13.1) by <plan_class> ending by _cat132
This way the bad Catalyst 13.1 is avoided.

<plan_class> ending by _nocal is to detect GPUs or drivers which do not report/support CAL (AMD dropped CAL in favour of OpenCL)

Note:
If BOINC supported something like:
<bad_opencl_driver_revision>108440</bad_opencl_driver_revision>

... the number of <plan_class>es could be reduced
 
43) Message boards : Number crunching : New binary to test on beta (Message 1876127)
Posted 1 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
We're not testing with the screensaver, but with the standalone graphics window.
From Boinc Manager "Show Graphics" or what it says on the button in English.

. . OK thanks, that settles it for me. There's the rub you see, in my BOINC manager that button is greyed out.

Just select a Running CPU task (isn't that obvious?)


From memory there is an option during install to use BOINC graphics or not and I am rather sure that I chose "not".
So I would guess that the only way to use them now would be to re-run the install. That would be too disruptive :(

BOINC screensaver is always installed. (in BOINC install directory and in Windows directory)
So you can see "BOINC" in the list of Windows screensavers.

The question "during install to use BOINC graphics" only changes (or not) the Setting in Windows about which screensaver to be used.

SETI@home screensaver (setigraphics_X.yy_windows_intelx86.exe) comes with the CPU applications (i.e. is Downloaded automatically by BOINC)
SETI@home screensaver is started directly by "Show Graphics" or the BOINC screensaver starts SETI@home screensaver.
44) Message boards : Number crunching : New binary to test on beta (Message 1876121)
Posted 1 Jul 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
After making the changes, did you do a project update from the manager? Otherwise, they won't take affect until Boinc makes a scheduler contact.

Yup ... still not standing still ... hummmm ...

Those parameters a passed to the app in init_data.xml (which is in 'slots')

<format_preset>Custom</format_preset>
        <text_style>Pillars</text_style>
        <graph_style>Surface</graph_style>
        <max_cpu>10</max_cpu>
        <grow_time>10</grow_time>
        <hold_time>5</hold_time>
        <graph_alpha>0.7</graph_alpha>
        <roll_period>0</roll_period>
        <roll_range>0</roll_range>
        <pitch_period>0</pitch_period>
        <pitch_range>0</pitch_range>
        <starfield_size>0</starfield_size>
        <starfield_speed>0</starfield_speed>
        <color_preset>Rainbow</color_preset>
        <start_hue>0</start_hue>
        <hue_change>1</hue_change>


This means the task/app need to be restarted to know of the change, e.g. by:
- Snooze / unSnooze
- Start another task
- Restart BOINC
45) Message boards : Number crunching : "BOINC portable" for Windows hosts (Message 1875529)
Posted 28 Jun 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
BOINC.exe being started from command prompt doesn't detect GPUs

Try from elevated (admin) command prompt?
46) Message boards : Number crunching : New binary to test on beta (Message 1875527)
Posted 28 Jun 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
. . For what it is worth I am running it now ... but I have BOINC set to NOT use the BOINC screensaver ... :(

You don't need to change anything in BOINC to test the BOINC screensaver.

Just go to the "normal place" in Windows where you choose screensavers.
You probably have selected now "Blank", select "BOINC" instead and set small delay (e.g. 2 minutes) to test it.
47) Questions and Answers : Windows : USER INFO (Message 1875424)
Posted 28 Jun 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Read:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Computation_credit
48) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU suspended - computer is in use (Stuck on this even when not in use) (Message 1875422)
Posted 28 Jun 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Try what happens if you set "Use GPU always" from Activity menu

BOINC Manager Menu

49) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Time in Berkeley (What the heck are they doing now?) (Message 1875322)
Posted 27 Jun 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The link in the first post still works but it is now redirected to the more readable ("usa/berkeley" instead of "city.html?n=791"):

https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/usa/berkeley

 
50) Message boards : Number crunching : Please take a look (Message 1871033)
Posted 4 Jun 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... whether the percentage specified in the cpu_usage tag applies to the entire CPU or just one core.

<cpu_usage>1</cpu_usage> informs BOINC that the applications will need one (virtual) core.

This is only used by BOINC to calculate how many (virtual) cores remain usable for CPU tasks (i.e. BOINC will start less CPU tasks).
BOINC sums <cpu_usage>x.y</cpu_usage> for all running GPU tasks, then truncates the sum (e.g. 3 * 0.33 = 0.99 = 0 or 2 * 0.77 = 1.54 = 1)

BOINC don't know (and is not interested) in physical CPU configuration - if OS reports "16 CPUs" it doesn't matter to BOINC if this is "2 physical CPUs x 8 real cores" or "1 physical CPU x 8 cores Hyper-Threaded to 16 virtual" or ...

Application itself don't know about or use this value.


Then Boinc is using more than five cores exceeding a limit placed upon it

1. BOINC is not "using" the cores
2. This is not "limit placed upon it"
3. BOINC do not and can't control (or even monitor) the resource usage of already started applications.

Numbers like "Use at most 99 % of the CPUs" and <cpu_usage>1</cpu_usage> only tell BOINC how many applications to start (which is the only "limit").

BOINC assumes that one CPU app will use one CPU (read this as "core") (unless the CPU app is declared as Multi-Threading )
and one GPU app will use what is declared by cpu_usage / gpu_usage
BOINC do not really measure the real "usage".
51) Questions and Answers : Windows : New version of Win10 not running BOINC Screensaver (Message 1869445)
Posted 25 May 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Linking here some other threads about the same problem:

"Screen saver not working under Windows 10":
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=81343

"Boinc screensaver & Creators Update (Microsoft, Win10)"
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=11560

on GitHub:
"Windows 10 Creators Update broke BOINC screen saver"
https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/issues/1859
52) Questions and Answers : Windows : New version of Win10 not running BOINC Screensaver (Message 1869369)
Posted 25 May 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I see a file was created named stderrgfx.txt. I'm seeing entries like this:
...
shared memory segment missing

That is the problem.
Now someone who makes applications and knows enough about programming in Windows have to figure-out why "shared memory segment missing" on Windows 10 Creators Update.
(is this a bug made by Microsoft or is it some new change in Windows, e.g. "for security"?)

("shared memory" is used so the applications' screensaver can get data from the running application)
53) Questions and Answers : Windows : GPU work only on one project (Message 1868399)
Posted 20 May 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Go to SETI@home preferences

At bottom:
Add separate preferences for ... (choose any of home, school, work)
Change them the way you want e,g, uncheck "Use CPU"

Then go to the computer page (as your computers are "hidden" I can't give you link) and at bottom change "Location"

Do the same on other projects (but uncheck "Use GPU")

This "Use CPU" / "Use GPU" Settings control what to be Downloaded in the future.
Tasks already in the computer continue to run (finish them or abort them)
54) Questions and Answers : Windows : New version of Win10 not running BOINC Screensaver (Message 1868376)
Posted 20 May 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Double-clicking on the graphics executable results in a black box (the command prompt) opening and closing immediately.

It is not really "command prompt" but the window of setigraphics itself.

If you want to play a little more (you can do the same on a "bad" and "good" Windows 10 system to see the difference):

For the next test I used v7 files as I have them, as you guess your filenames will be a little different.
I used Process Explorer to monitor and kill processes.

A)
- Snooze BOINC
- Make an empty directory (e.g. ...\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\SetiGraphicsTest\)
- Copy in it setigraphics_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe
- Start it (setigraphics*.exe)

On a "good" system (Windows XP) I see this and it stays open until I close it:



- Close setigraphics*.exe (if needed)
File stderrgfx.txt is created (the last 2 lines appear only after I close the window of setigraphics):

14:27:47 (3412): Can't open init data file - running in standalone mode
14:27:47 (3412): Starting graphics application.
Warning: unable to load JPEG file. File size=0
Failed to load 'user_logo'.
Failed to load 'background'.
14:33:03 (3412): Close event (WM_CLOSE) detected, shutting down.
14:33:03 (3412): Shutting down graphics application.


B)
- Copy 3 additional files:
setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe
libfftw3f-3-3_upx.dll
work_unit.sah         (this is any WU file ~356 KB renamed to work_unit.sah)

- Start setiathome_*.exe
Wait 1-2 minutes and see how some 4-5 files are created.

- Start setigraphics*.exe



- Close setigraphics*.exe (if needed)
- Kill setiathome_*.exe (by Process Explorer)

- UnSnooze BOINC
55) Questions and Answers : Windows : New version of Win10 not running BOINC Screensaver (Message 1868024)
Posted 18 May 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
@All (having this screensaver/Win10 issue and wanting to investigate)

What happens if you manually start SETI@home screensaver?

- While some SETI@home CPU task is running (you see process in memory with name like setiathome_8.00_windows_intelx86.exe)
Go to SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\) and start the SETI@home screensaver, name like:
setigraphics_8.00_windows_intelx86.exe
56) Questions and Answers : Windows : Merging Accounts (Message 1867372)
Posted 15 May 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
For more info read:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=81361
57) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Old Member, Old Problem (I'm sure) (Message 1867370)
Posted 15 May 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If David Turner had used the email of this account on the link to "Claim your SETI@home Classic workunits" he would have seen:
- Date 19 Mar 2000 on his current account (Date is copied)
- "SETI@home classic workunits 3,764 - SETI@home classic CPU time 36,087 hours" on his current account (these numbers are moved)
- Both accounts will remain existing
- The old account will be with removed classic counts

I have witnessed all this several times in the past years while helping other users do the same as in this thread.
Unfortunately David Turner used the email of another account from 2004 which we were unable to see before the "merge" but I'm sure it looked "the same" as userid=85575 (only with different classic counts)

In the end - if you give me the email of userid=85575 - I can "merge" it with my account ("merge" means: "Date is copied" + "Classic numbers are moved")

Maybe the text from this link is more clear (that all Classic is converted and looks like userid=85575):
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic.php
"When we launched SETI@home/BOINC, we created accounts for all SETI@home Classic users, with their existing email addresses. Each account includes the number of SETI@home Classic workunits completed, the CPU time, and the start date. These accounts were not given passwords (i.e., they can't be accessed using any password)."
58) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Old Member, Old Problem (I'm sure) (Message 1867337)
Posted 14 May 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have no idea of the email address

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=85575

Since that old account (userid=85575) was never used for BOINC you may try to merge it with your current account (userid=10469435) by just guessing your old email address (no need for it to be active or exist)

His Classic points are already added to that account, which is a BOINC account and as you know, BOINC accounts cannot be merged. The account may never have been used for BOINC, but that is a BOINC account. Most probably the OP's original Classic account that got transformed into the BOINC account.

userid=85575 is exactly "original Classic account that got transformed into the BOINC account" and that can be merged.
(No "Real" Classic accounts exist, they are all converted. If never used for BOINC they can be merged. He managed to "hit" another of his Classic-converted accounts from 2004)
59) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Old Member, Old Problem (I'm sure) (Message 1864968)
Posted 1 May 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have no idea of the email address

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=85575

Since that old account (userid=85575) was never used for BOINC you may try to merge it with your current account (userid=10469435) by just guessing your old email address (no need for it to be active or exist)

Just try any old email you can think of on this page (you need to be logged-in your current account while doing this):
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php

If the email is wrong you will see something like this: "No Classic account exists with the e-mail address: wuiefiowsiofjsdojcoi@ajsdkaskl.ccc"

If successful - your current account will have date 19 Mar 2000 and added list of classic workunits (which will be removed from the old account):
SETI@home classic workunits 3,764
SETI@home classic CPU time 36,087 hours

Note:
The above link is found on this page (under "Claim your SETI@home Classic workunits"):
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic.php

I was unable to find path to it by the menus here. But since I knew it existed I used "Site search" for word Classic and used the second result.
60) Questions and Answers : Windows : New version of Win10 not running BOINC Screensaver (Message 1860322)
Posted 8 Apr 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
"BOINC does not start" means "boinc.exe is not in the list of running processes" (as seen in Windows Task Manager, Process Explorer, ...)
"no engaging the screen saver" does not mean BOINC is not running.
BOINC screensaver (boinc.scr + boincscr.exe) only shows some pictures, it is not really needed for the processing
("processing" is done by SETI@home applications which are started by boinc.exe)
61) Questions and Answers : Windows : So what exactly is my computer doing? (Message 1857663)
Posted 25 Mar 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So its that it? I just let it run and do not participate directly?

Practically - yes
Unless you want to read and post on forums, e.g. Number Crunching


What are the credits?

They are like points in game, you get them for "Valid tasks":
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8231523&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=
62) Questions and Answers : Windows : "Error while computing" (Message 1857657)
Posted 25 Mar 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I didn't realize that all the GPU choices were checked.

That doesn't matter.
If you don't have NVIDIA or ATI/AMD GPU BOINC will not ask for such tasks/applications.
Now, with unchecked NVIDIA and ATI, you may see 'nag' Messages in Event Log that "tasks for NVIDIA are available but your Preferences are set to not accept them" (or similar wording)
63) Questions and Answers : Windows : "Error while computing" (Message 1857374)
Posted 24 Mar 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Just uncheck "Use Intel GPU" in SETI@home preferences
(And of course check "Use CPU")
64) Questions and Answers : Windows : How to activate SETI screensaver on Win 10? (Message 1857372)
Posted 24 Mar 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What to do? Any ideas?

This was already answered:
"the only application that has the graphics application is the CPU application. So only when work runs on the CPU do you see the Seti graphics"

So do you have CPU tasks Running?
 
65) Questions and Answers : Web site : wrong language detected - parts of site are in russian? (Message 1853643)
Posted 7 Mar 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
From the top blue bar select: Site -> Languages
Choose English
66) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Dual GPU's (Message 1853505)
Posted 6 Mar 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
CTRL+Shift+F



Just set/check any Log Flag (e.g. benchmark_debug) and cc_config.xml will be created.

Then edit cc_config.xml by Notepad to change 0 to 1 in line:
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>

Restart BOINC
67) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home v8.19 Windows GPU applications support thread (Message 1833712)
Posted 2 Dec 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
There is 8.21 apps deployed for testing on beta.
Please verify your observations regarding excessive memory usage on all 3 app's flavours.
...
Lets see what app flavour your hardware select on beta before moving further on this topic.

Not possible to "see what app flavour your hardware select on beta" - I run BOINC 6.10.58 so run "beta" only by app_info.xml (else I don't get any tasks)
So for "all 3 app's flavours" I need exact file-names to make (by hand) Download URLs
68) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home v8.19 Windows GPU applications support thread (Message 1833711)
Posted 2 Dec 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
"Long" run (I did this ~6 h ago)

MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r3557.exe

WU:
09fe09aa.7329.14796.7.34.239
<true_angle_range>0.44810357783225</true_angle_range>

1) This was run under BOINC (no cmdline) and BoincTasks recorded (second "MB" is from "Virtual" column):
09fe09aa.7329.14796.7.34.239_0	01:01:18 (00:02:45)	0.04C + 1ATI	689.01 MB	696.77 MB

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?result_name=09fe09aa.7329.14796.7.34.239_0


2) Offline run - did not show change of max RAM used (from the above "under BOINC (no cmdline)" 15ms and this 60ms):
-tt 60
Target kernel sequence time set to 60ms

(721338368 bytes ~= 687.92 MB)

"(PDH-TSV 4.0) (FLE Standard Time)(-120)"	"Process(MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r3557)\Working Set"
"12/02/2016 16:40:08.429"	" "
"12/02/2016 16:40:18.429"	" "
"12/02/2016 16:40:28.429"	"100605952"
"12/02/2016 16:40:38.429"	"101634048"
"12/02/2016 16:40:48.429"	"102756352"
"12/02/2016 16:40:58.429"	"104345600"
"12/02/2016 16:41:08.429"	"106119168"
"12/02/2016 16:41:18.429"	"107679744"
"12/02/2016 16:41:28.429"	"109240320"
"12/02/2016 16:41:38.429"	"110784512"
"12/02/2016 16:41:48.429"	"112357376"
"12/02/2016 16:41:58.429"	"113917952"
"12/02/2016 16:42:08.429"	"115486720"
"12/02/2016 16:42:18.429"	"117272576"
"12/02/2016 16:42:28.429"	"118837248"
"12/02/2016 16:42:38.429"	"120397824"
"12/02/2016 16:42:48.429"	"121946112"
"12/02/2016 16:42:58.429"	"123518976"
"12/02/2016 16:43:08.429"	"125075456"
"12/02/2016 16:43:18.429"	"126640128"
"12/02/2016 16:43:28.429"	"128188416"
"12/02/2016 16:43:38.429"	"129777664"
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69) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home v8.19 Windows GPU applications support thread (Message 1833699)
Posted 2 Dec 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Have semi-problem to checkpoint (every ~3 minutes, not at <1 minute as is set) on AR:
4.195846
...
and in BOINC for AR 4.195846 (the WU is paused in BOINC)

(now BOINC is on r3578)
For this is Fixed:
- checkpoints every ~50 seconds
- <prog> almost == <fraction_done> for all duration of the run

Not fixed (something I forgot to report earlier):
- On 'Snooze' or any other pause of such task - the process waits ~10 seconds before exiting
-- in this "slow exiting" the app don't write to stderr.txt the usual:
GPU device sync requested... ...GPU device synched
Termination request detected or computations are finished. GPU device synched, exiting...

(this "GPU device sync" is written when pausing VLAR tasks)
70) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC client isn't downloading new S@H workunits on S6 Android (Message 1833678)
Posted 2 Dec 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
"Add project" (the same way you did for SETI@home) and Copy/Paste the following URL (there should be a box named URL in the "Add project" dialog):
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/

And the same is the Home/start page of "SETI@home Beta" project:
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/
71) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home v8.19 Windows GPU applications support thread (Message 1833672)
Posted 2 Dec 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
2) Checkpoints problem
On "Very VHAR" tasks this app almost do not checkpoint on my computer

MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r3557

Have NO problem to checkpoint on AR:
1.389965
2.598181
2.725368 (maybe checkpoints every ~1.5 minutes)

Have semi-problem to checkpoint (every ~3 minutes, not at <1 minute as is set) on AR:
4.195846

HAVE problem to checkpoint on AR:
12.638138
103.055695

I will try offline test with r3578 for AR 103.055695 (I have the WU)
and in BOINC for AR 4.195846 (the WU is paused in BOINC)
72) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home v8.19 Windows GPU applications support thread (Message 1833647)
Posted 2 Dec 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I made a short test to train myself how to record RAM usage.
(longer will be when I have more time
- Note/Edit: this post was written ~20 h ago and was on "Preview" when Internet stopped; Now longer test is running and I post this)

For this short test results are almost the same for default 15ms (empty mb_cmdline.txt), -tt 5 and -tt 60

PG0395_v8.wu

-tt 5
Target kernel sequence time set to 5ms

"Process(MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r3557)\Working Set"
"12/01/2016 18:30:49.288"	" "
"12/01/2016 18:30:59.288"	" "
"12/01/2016 18:31:09.288"	"96022528"
"12/01/2016 18:31:19.288"	"97103872"
"12/01/2016 18:31:29.288"	"98578432"
"12/01/2016 18:31:39.288"	"100204544"
"12/01/2016 18:31:49.288"	"101810176"
"12/01/2016 18:31:59.288"	"103235584"
"12/01/2016 18:32:09.288"	"104853504"
"12/01/2016 18:32:19.288"	"106450944"
"12/01/2016 18:32:29.288"	"108068864"
"12/01/2016 18:32:39.288"	"109727744"
"12/01/2016 18:32:49.288"	"111333376"
"12/01/2016 18:32:59.288"	"112959488"
"12/01/2016 18:33:09.288"	"114565120"
"12/01/2016 18:33:19.288"	"115978240"
"12/01/2016 18:33:29.288"	"117358592"
"12/01/2016 18:33:39.288"	"118685696"
"12/01/2016 18:33:49.288"	"120037376"
"12/01/2016 18:33:59.288"	"121438208"
"12/01/2016 18:34:09.288"	"122822656"
"12/01/2016 18:34:19.288"	"124170240"
"12/01/2016 18:34:29.288"	"125440000"
"12/01/2016 18:34:39.288"	"126820352"
"12/01/2016 18:34:49.288"	"128233472"
"12/01/2016 18:34:59.288"	" "
"12/01/2016 18:35:09.288"	" "



-tt 60
Target kernel sequence time set to 60ms

"Process(MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r3557)\Working Set"
"12/01/2016 19:20:48.382"	" "
"12/01/2016 19:20:58.382"	" "
"12/01/2016 19:21:08.382"	"96006144"
"12/01/2016 19:21:18.382"	"97083392"
"12/01/2016 19:21:28.382"	"98365440"
"12/01/2016 19:21:38.382"	"99975168"
"12/01/2016 19:21:48.382"	"101584896"
"12/01/2016 19:21:58.382"	"103215104"
"12/01/2016 19:22:08.382"	"104824832"
"12/01/2016 19:22:18.382"	"106434560"
"12/01/2016 19:22:28.382"	"107847680"
"12/01/2016 19:22:38.382"	"109490176"
"12/01/2016 19:22:48.382"	"111091712"
"12/01/2016 19:22:58.382"	"112717824"
"12/01/2016 19:23:08.382"	"114323456"
"12/01/2016 19:23:18.382"	"115752960"
"12/01/2016 19:23:28.382"	"117121024"
"12/01/2016 19:23:38.382"	"118390784"
"12/01/2016 19:23:48.382"	"119812096"
"12/01/2016 19:23:58.382"	"121114624"
"12/01/2016 19:24:08.382"	"122503168"
"12/01/2016 19:24:18.382"	"123969536"
"12/01/2016 19:24:28.382"	"125022208"
"12/01/2016 19:24:38.382"	"126447616"
"12/01/2016 19:24:48.382"	"127762432"
"12/01/2016 19:24:58.382"	" "
"12/01/2016 19:25:08.382"	" "
73) Message boards : Number crunching : Anything relating to AstroPulse tasks (Message 1833452)
Posted 1 Dec 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If the problem is somewhere in the antenna - receiver - recorder chain at Arecibo...

If that is true wouldn't it also "poison" the MB tasks?
74) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU Wars 2016:  Pascal vs Polaris (Message 1833451)
Posted 1 Dec 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I couldn't get Windows to update either

From W10Privacy Changelog:
http://www.winprivacy.de/deutsch-start/versionshistorie/
2.1.1.0 (20.03.2016)
- The search for Windows updates is now also possible via Commandline: With the parameter "/ s checkupdates", W10Privacy can be started in unattended mode so that it searches for updates afterwards (if necessary, The search for updates necessary prerequisites are set by Gui). If updates are detected, the well-known window is displayed in which the updates to be installed can be selected.
- The search for Windows updates via W10Privacy is now done faster, since updates are no longer checked on the Fake WSUS, but directly on "Windows Update". However, in networks that actually provide a WSUS server, this option is disadvantageous, so the search for updates can be activated with a "Fake WSUS". A "standard user" should not select this option, the search takes longer.
...

This (maybe) means that W10Privacy have its own "search for Windows updates", I wonder if that will be any different than the "standard"...
75) Message boards : Number crunching : Anything relating to AstroPulse tasks (Message 1833448)
Posted 1 Dec 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Do you still collect/need more statistics?

Name						Size		Packed Size	Outcome

ap_20jl16ae_B2_P0_00166_20161126_15870.wu	8 392 047	8 309 274	02:03:35 (00:09:21), single pulses: 3, repetitive pulses: 0, percent blanked: 4.740
ap_21jl16ae_B1_P1_00108_20161126_21080.wu	8 392 045	8 296 211	02:06:04 (00:11:10), single pulses: 0, repetitive pulses: 0, percent blanked: 22.200
ap_21jl16ae_B0_P1_00221_20161126_15900.wu	8 392 034	8 152 638	02:07:33 (00:14:15), single pulses: 1, repetitive pulses: 0, percent blanked: 47.700
ap_26no15ae_B5_P1_00187_20161127_06985.wu	8 392 045	8 091 546	00:00:02 (-), percent blanked: 100.000
ap_21ja16ae_B0_P0_00007_20161126_11879.wu	8 392 029	7 463 225	00:00:03 (00:00:01), percent blanked: 100.000
ap_21ja16af_B1_P0_00000_20161126_05778.wu	8 392 040	7 051 024	00:00:03 (00:00:01), percent blanked: 100.000
ap_21ja16af_B5_P1_00307_20161126_27903.wu	8 392 046	6 766 875	00:00:03 (00:00:01), percent blanked: 100.000
ap_21ja16af_B2_P1_00211_20161126_07938.wu	8 392 047	6 639 150	00:00:03 (00:00:01), percent blanked: 100.000
ap_21ja16ae_B3_P1_00100_20161126_14685.wu	8 392 048	4 405 739	00:00:03 (00:00:01), percent blanked: 100.000
76) Message boards : News : Web site upgrade (Message 1833442)
Posted 1 Dec 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I see almost the same (and I like that better on my (not good focus) CRT 21" monitor @ 1600x1200 than the thin letters in Raistmer's image):



This is in:
FlashPeak Slimjet Browser Portable 3.1.6.0 (Chromium 40) - I used incognito window to avoid influence by any extensions
Windows XP - Language Setting for both the OS and browser is English

No ClearType (I don't like it):

77) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home v8.19 Windows GPU applications support thread (Message 1833063)
Posted 28 Nov 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
- Some tasks seem to not grow or do it very slowly -

Now I think that (all?) VLAR tasks "grow" very slow in the last 1/3 of processing.
Didn't look very closely to the exact % but if VLAR task is restarted at ~70-75% it starts with ~96 MB RAM usage and slow (10-20 KB/s) "grows".

I now watched blc4_2bit_guppi_57424_45606_HIP73165_OFF_0026.19637.416.17.26.219.vlar   ar=0.011183
- restarted from 73% at 96 MB and go to 99% at 114 MB (% as shown by BoincTasks)
78) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU Wars 2016:  Pascal vs Polaris (Message 1833037)
Posted 28 Nov 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Going back to Windows 7 soon if this carries on

If you are "determined" to brake this Windows 10

Try if stopping driver updates by this 2 programs work and can be reversed
(I seem to remember some very old reports that once you disable updates by O&O ShutUp10 this can't be reversed)
https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
http://www.winprivacy.de/english-home/

And if DDU works to clean everything NVIDIA
http://www.wagnardmobile.com/?q=node/125
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html
79) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home v8.19 Windows GPU applications support thread (Message 1833034)
Posted 28 Nov 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
But even that was done on 730 before...so 1050 should be like a Space shuttle compared to Appolo!

Apollo can go to the moon, Space shuttle can't ...
So I'm not sure which is a greater achievement?
80) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home v8.19 Windows GPU applications support thread (Message 1833030)
Posted 28 Nov 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
this sounds more like memory leak indeed,I'll look where it can hide.

Two notes:
- Seems that BoincTasks records the RAM usage only from the last restart - near the end ~90% I restarted a task which was at >300 MB RAM and it grow only to 120 MB at finish and that 120 MB is shown now in History tab of BoincTasks

- Some tasks seem to not grow or do it very slowly - this task was paused hours ago (so I don't remember its RAM usage) and when I restarted it it run for >20 minutes without much grow:
(it was at ~98 MB for a few minutes when I watched, "usually" the grow I see is 1 MB per few (5-8) seconds)
blc4_2bit_guppi_57424_45953_HIP74190_0027.17319.416.18.27.165.vlar_0	01:26:24 (00:02:16)	0.04C + 1ATI	107.84 MB	115.79 MB	ar=0.008858

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?result_name=blc4_2bit_guppi_57424_45953_HIP74190_0027.17319.416.18.27.165.vlar_0
81) Message boards : Number crunching : Safe Shutdown (Message 1833022)
Posted 28 Nov 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
No need for "UPS network management"
boinccmd itself can access LAN
In the line:
%cmdpath% --host NODE1 %cmd%

"NODE1" is the name or IP of computer on LAN
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Boinccmd_tool

That computer's BOINC have to allow remote access:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Controlling_BOINC_remotely
82) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home v8.19 Windows GPU applications support thread (Message 1833020)
Posted 28 Nov 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What if Cat version will be changed - memory usage differs?

Catalyst 11.12 (posted earlier)
I don't want to change to Catalyst 12.01 (Windows XP, remember? Those are the only two versions with working OpenCL)
83) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home v8.19 Windows GPU applications support thread (Message 1833018)
Posted 28 Nov 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
On the picture one 8,12 task shows 548MB and another - 447MB RAM usage

They are old Downloads - I had 2-3 SETI@home tasks when I installed Lunatics_Win32_v0.45_Beta6-for-SoG_setup
(one of them may also be partially done by both apps, I don't remember - but I have stderr.txt archived by BoincMonitor (to 30 days back) if you want me to find some info)


30 mins for VHAR looks quite slow

The last such task:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?result_name=05no09ad.29451.67.3.30.158_0


EDIT: and maybe that looked like memory leak issue actually not leak at all but just the room to keep all events for enqueued kernels. If so adding additional sync points will help both issues.

I forgot to post previously - if I restart a "normal" (non-VHAR) task at e.g. 50% when it may be using 300 MB RAM - the app starts at 100 MB again (and continues from 50% done) and do not "jump" to 300 MB so at the end (e.g. 95%) it uses less RAM than if run without restart.
84) Message boards : Number crunching : Open Beta test: SoG for NVidia, Lunatics v0.45 - Beta6 (RC again) (Message 1832981)
Posted 28 Nov 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
BOINC quirk:
Despite you put at the top (in MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5.aistub):

    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_v8</app_name>
        <version_num>819</version_num>
        <api_version>7.5.0</api_version>
        <avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>
        <plan_class>opencl_ati5_sah</plan_class>

... the new downloaded tasks were labelled:
<version_num>820</version_num>
<plan_class>opencl_ati5_sah</plan_class>



(transition from Lunatics_Win32_v0.45_Beta4 to Beta6)

BOINC 6.10.58 decided to sort by version_num and choose the highest?
85) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home v8.19 Windows GPU applications support thread (Message 1832973)
Posted 28 Nov 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r3557.exe
AMD Radeon HD 6570 - Catalyst 11.12
Windows XP

1) RAM problem
Is it normal for ATi_HD5_r3557 to use so much RAM?
It starts at 100 MB, slowly increases and ends in 400-700 MB depending on task (r3500 used to use 100-120 MB)
(Video RAM usage is OK - constant during run 230-270 MB depending on task)

This RAM usage increasing is visible in Process Lasso and is also recorded by BoincTasks:
https://s21.postimg.org/5etbuf8xx/Boinc_Tasks_RAM_r3500_vs_r3557.png


2) Checkpoints problem
On "Very VHAR" tasks this app almost do not checkpoint on my computer:
- I monitored "by eye" tasks with ar=103.05 and ar=12.63
- tasks run to completion in normal time ~33 minutes
- they do not checkpoint until last minute - files state.sah and boinc_task_state.xml are created only @ minute 32 and after another minute the task finishes
In these last-minute files are these lines:
<prog>0.10701535</prog>
<fraction_done>0.926736</fraction_done>

- in init_data.xml is the checkpoint_period set by me (and other non-VHAR tasks obey it):
<checkpoint_period>47.000000</checkpoint_period>

- during run (using BOINC 6.10.58) BOINC Manager and BoincTasks show (after ~8 minutes) fake frozen "Progress" of 86.9 % which stays the same till ~minute 32

- After the startup CPU-only phase (~13 s) the RAM usage jumps (in 1 s) from 100 to 520 MB and stays the same till the end

- if the computation is interrupted (e.g. by Snooze) the tasks restart from beginning as if run for the first time:
Work Unit Info:
...............
Credit multiplier is :  2.85
WU true angle range is :  103.055695
Used GPU device parameters are:
	Number of compute units: 6
	Single buffer allocation size: 128MB
	Total device global memory: 512MB
	max WG size: 256
	local mem type: Real
	LotOfMem path: yes
	LowPerformanceGPU path: no
	HighPerformanceGPU path: no
period_iterations_num=50
Running on device number: 0
Priority of worker thread raised successfully
.....
86) Message boards : Number crunching : The wonders of Micro$oft Windoze (Message 1831144)
Posted 18 Nov 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
user name with bad religious overtones

Don't know why you say my user name is 'religious'
...
On the other hand, when composing a post, the Rules do include:
No messages intended to annoy ... or to hijack a thread.
No messages that are deliberately hostile,... or insulting.

And you omit what not suits your "proof of innocence":
"No abusive comments involving race, religion, nationality ..."

For me your usernames, signature, Profile are full with religion.
You don't have just one username:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/team_members.php?teamid=134455

This will annoy anyone that is atheist or have another religion.

The very long username makes the formatting of the web pages "broken":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_forum.php?id=10

And you try to spread that religion on many projects (of course unsuccessfully, such pushing-in-the-face is just (very) annoying)
87) Message boards : Number crunching : Anything relating to AstroPulse tasks (Message 1831138)
Posted 18 Nov 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Name						Size		Packed Size	Outcome

ap_09no15ac_B1_P1_00139_20161114_16249.wu	8 392 045	8 328 954	00:00:04 (-), percent blanked: 100.000
ap_30dc09aj_B6_P1_00308_20161115_16691.wu	8 392 047	8 323 397	02:04:18 (00:09:22), single pulses: 2, repetitive pulses: 4, percent blanked: 9.730
ap_31dc09aa_B6_P1_00226_20161029_17254.wu	8 392 047	8 322 674	02:05:07 (00:09:07), single pulses: 3, repetitive pulses: 2, percent blanked: 3.270
ap_21jl16ac_B2_P0_00363_20161029_30868.wu	8 392 048	8 320 418	02:08:39 (00:11:13), single pulses: 3, repetitive pulses: 1, percent blanked: 22.900
ap_09no15ac_B0_P1_00122_20161114_25012.wu	8 392 033	8 289 832	02:09:25 (00:15:46), single pulses: 0, repetitive pulses: 0, percent blanked: 60.000
ap_07fe09af_B6_P0_00105_20161114_07306.wu	8 392 044	8 270 711	02:03:05 (00:08:24), single pulses: 10, repetitive pulses: 30, percent blanked: 2.640
ap_11jl16ac_B5_P1_00047_20161112_25077.wu	8 392 044	8 222 328	02:02:42 (00:08:35), single pulses: 8, repetitive pulses: 7, percent blanked: 5.320
ap_09no15ac_B1_P0_00029_20161114_25188.wu	8 392 045	8 213 529	00:59:45 (00:04:14), percent blanked: 9.920
ap_09no15ac_B1_P0_00324_20161114_25188.wu	8 392 047	8 196 409	00:00:04 (-), percent blanked: 100.000
ap_03fe16ac_B3_P0_00159_20161112_10509.wu	8 392 049	8 172 523	00:00:05 (-), percent blanked: 100.000
ap_09no15ac_B4_P0_00120_20161114_12155.wu	8 392 047	8 155 379	02:05:44 (00:10:36), single pulses: 3, repetitive pulses: 1, percent blanked: 19.800
ap_26no15ac_B0_P1_00306_20161029_17380.wu	8 392 034	8 152 065	00:00:15 (-), percent blanked: 100.000
ap_27no15ac_B0_P1_00121_20161029_24827.wu	8 392 033	8 127 775	00:00:12 (-), percent blanked: 100.000
ap_12ja16ac_B4_P0_00084_20161114_15341.wu	8 392 046	7 239 961	00:00:04 (-), percent blanked: 100.000
ap_12ja16ac_B2_P0_00329_20161114_08159.wu	8 392 047	7 211 955	00:00:05 (00:00:01), percent blanked: 100.000
ap_03fe16ac_B4_P0_00127_20161112_21784.wu	8 392 046	6 966 687	00:00:04 (00:00:01), percent blanked: 100.000
ap_12ja16ac_B2_P1_00137_20161114_06823.wu	8 392 046	6 914 347	00:00:04 (00:00:01), percent blanked: 100.000
ap_11jl16ac_B3_P1_00334_20161112_27468.wu	8 392 050	5 248 017	00:00:05 (00:00:01), percent blanked: 100.000
88) Message boards : News : Nebula: Completing the SETI@home pipeline (Message 1830724)
Posted 15 Nov 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This resolution divides the sphere into 2^26 (about 54 million) pixels...

The other (cosmetic) typo is that 2^26 == 67108864 which is not really "about 54 million"
89) Message boards : News : Nebula: Completing the SETI@home pipeline (Message 1830654)
Posted 15 Nov 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
From this page:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/nebula_web/persistent.php

"We use a resolution at which each pixel is about as large as a telescope beam.
This resolution divides the sphere into 2^26 (about 54 million) pixels, of which about 16 million are visible from the Arecibo telescope."

From code:
https://setisvn.ssl.berkeley.edu/trac/browser/seti_science/nebula/tables.h

// largest possible pixel#
//
#define MAX_PIXEL (2<<26)


I think 2<<26 == 2^27

e.g. 2<<1 == 4 == 2^2

http://www.c4learn.com/c-programming/c-bitwise-left-shift-operator/


Note: In the above I used "^" to denote "power", not XOR
 
90) Questions and Answers : Windows : Question about project under Boinc, or Seti. (Message 1830633)
Posted 15 Nov 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Folding@home in the column "BOINC based" have "No":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_distributed_computing_projects
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folding@home

BOINC projects:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Project_list
91) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Is there a way to have SETI@Home send data more often? (Message 1830046)
Posted 12 Nov 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Are all the blc tasks Breakthrough Listen?


"Understanding what the BLC name means":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=80380
92) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Is there a way to have SETI@Home send data more often? (Message 1830044)
Posted 12 Nov 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I could and probably will as long as the certificate is the only problem.

If this means you are just afraid (and not have a technical problem (?) to choose [Proceed anyway] or whatever button exists in your browser):

This is general warning from the browser because it don't know what this page will do - e.g. will it ask for credit card info.

Page like this is mostly just text (and IMHO should be accessible by http but unfortunately changes automatically to https):
https://setisvn.ssl.berkeley.edu/trac/browser/seti_science/nebula/tables.h

On the warning page in Chromium 35 (SRWare Iron 35) there are ~20 lines of explanations but the main essence is:
"The site's security certificate is not trusted!"
"In this case, the certificate has not been verified by a third party that your computer trusts."

They (at berkeley.edu) self-sign the certificate (because else it costs money):
"
Issued to: setisvn.ssl.berkeley.edu
Issued by: setisvn.ssl.berkeley.edu

This CA Root certificate is not trusted because it is not in the Trusted Root Certification Authorities store.
"
93) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1828831)
Posted 6 Nov 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:

It is a matter of your Settings, my keeps 1 year:
(Currently:
history_long_CompName.cvs is 734 KB and have 3516 records
history_CompName.cvs is 25 KB and have 113 records

How long does it take to load BOINCTasks with that many History records?

~5 seconds.

"History records" in the tab are for 7 days (for me that is 100-200 tasks)
The other 360 days (3500 records) are only read if you click a button on the toolbar.
BoincTasks consumes ~1 minute CPU time per day (0.1% (1/1000) of a CPU core)


I have mine trimmed down to 2 days because the default value caused it to load over many minutes.

I don't know what is "the default value" and there are many values and checkboxes on the screenshot.
94) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1828030)
Posted 2 Nov 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
My BOINCTasks history file gets trimmed to 2 days automatically ...

It is a matter of your Settings, my keeps 1 year:
(Currently:
history_long_CompName.cvs is 734 KB and have 3516 records
history_CompName.cvs is 25 KB and have 113 records
)



 
95) Message boards : Number crunching : Issues with 1 GPU on Penta Nano System (Message 1828003)
Posted 2 Nov 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Perhaps it is a HW issue. Is there a good test of GPU compute integrity?

you already know how to run tasks only on one GPU to see how it performs when "alone":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=80426&postid=1826782#1826782

"LuxMark is a OpenCL cross-platform benchmark"
http://www.luxrender.net/wiki/LuxMark#Download

"FurMark - GPU Stress Test, OpenGL Benchmark"
http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/

"GPU Caps Viewer is an OpenGL and OpenCL graphics card utility" (have tests (Demos))
http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/


"OCCT Perestroïka is a stability checking tool"
http://www.ocbase.com/
 
96) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1827143)
Posted 28 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Case in point, Windoze Defender (sic) has been blessing both the x32 and x64 versions of 1.02k, and then today just decided to wipe them off the drive as malware. Go figure ....

So "Add an exclusion to Windows Defender" don't help?:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/instantanswers/64495205-6ddb-4da1-8534-1aeaf64c0af8/add-an-exclusion-to-windows-defender

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-security/how-to-stop-windows-defender-from-deleting-a/f4e3641a-5598-495d-b2a5-bd6ead226071


And you are right that "ask me first what to do" "is not an option in Windows Defender on Windows 10" and "Ah that sucks"
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/protect/forum/protect_defender-protect_start/how-do-i-set-windows-defender-in-windows-10-to-ask/2187e072-6bed-4d2d-bc9e-12b734148332

There is a hope for some hidden Settings if you want to search:
https://www.google.com/#q=windows+defender+registry+key
97) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1827137)
Posted 28 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
History of QOpt_1_02k.7z scans:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/6ed1837aacae8610217a7dfcebda4d32c341aca892a1df11ad8cf2af3ad34b48/analysis/1477127000/

https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/6ed1837aacae8610217a7dfcebda4d32c341aca892a1df11ad8cf2af3ad34b48/analysis/1477646040/

https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/6ed1837aacae8610217a7dfcebda4d32c341aca892a1df11ad8cf2af3ad34b48/analysis/1477646049/

Note:
How to get the info about old scans:
- the last part of the link 1477646049/ is time in seconds -
UNIX TimeStamp "(based on seconds since standard epoch of 1/1/1970)"
http://www.onlineconversion.com/unix_time.htm

For the above links it does not need to be exact - you can see that to go to the previous scan 1477646040/ (which is 3-4 days ago) I "deleted" only 9 seconds from the last scan.

To go 5-6 days back I used Windows Calculator to subtract 86400 (24*3600) seconds 5-6 times:
1477646049 - 86400 [Enter] [Enter] [Enter] ...
98) Message boards : Number crunching : Questions On GPU Utilization Schemes (Message 1827120)
Posted 28 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
2) since the cmd line applies to all cards, ...

There is special file you can create:
MultiBeam_NV_config.xml
... but I don't know if it is possible with stock apps.
If the app searches for it next to the .exe i.e. in SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\) it will find it.
If the app searches only in current directory i.e. in slots\ the file will not be there.


From ReadMe_MultiBeam_OpenCL_NV_SoG.txt
"
For device-specific settings in multi-GPU systems it's possible to override some of command-line options via
application config file.

Name of this config file:
MultiBeam_<vendor>_config.xml where vendor can be ATi, NV or iGPU.
File structure:
<deviceN>
	<period_iterations_num>N</period_iterations_num>
	<spike_fft_thresh>N</spike_fft_thresh>
	<sbs>N</sbs>
	<oclfft_plan>
	        <size>N</size>
		<global_radix>N</global_radix>
		<local_radix>N</local_radix>
		<workgroup_size>N</workgroup_size>
		<max_local_size>N</max_local_size>
		<localmem_banks>N</localmem_banks>
		<localmem_coalesce_width>N</localmem_coalesce_width>
	</oclfft_plan>
	<no_caching>
</deviceN>

where deviceN - particular OpenCL device N starting with 0, multiple sections allowed, one per each device.
other fields - corresponding command-line options to override for this particular device.
All or some sections can be omitted.

Don't forget to re-check device number to physical card relation after driver update and physical slot change.
Both these actions can change cards enumeration order.
99) Questions and Answers : Windows : SETI@Home not using my GPU (Message 1827081)
Posted 28 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Weird. So I aborted the 3 tasks that were suppose to use the NVIDIA GPU, updated my connection to the server, then it redownloaded 3 new tasks and now it's working properly.

Well, it probably only needed a nudge. :)

SETI@home v8 stock applications were updated to new version ~2 weeks ago:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

With new tasks marked "SETI@home v8 v8.19 (opencl_nvidia_SoG)" (r3528) were Downloaded new apps.
I remember some posts about old apps (SETI@home v8 v8.12 (opencl_nvidia_SoG) = r3430) hanging on low-end GPUs as this GeForce GT 610

Like "Just wasted 3h on SoG two units from Arecibo on 600GF card, which were stuck on 0,001%!" (what he calls for unknown reason "600GF card" is NVIDIA Quadro 2000)
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79418&postid=1820463#1820463


This hang was fixed months ago (ask Raistmer when and what) but only now the stock apps were updated from r3430 to r3528
100) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Specify or Dissable which GPU's are able to execute tasking ? (Message 1826967)
Posted 27 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Is there a way to specify only using GPU0 (the Quadro), or deny intel work units automatically ?

To not get more Intel GPU work from this project - deselect "Use Intel GPU" here:
SETI@home preferences

For Rosetta@home - probably here:
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/prefs.php?subset=project

For POEM@HOME - probably here:
http://boinc.fzk.de/poem/prefs.php?subset=project


To Disable Intel GPU for all projects:
Use:
<ignore_intel_dev>0</ignore_intel_dev>
(0 == the first Intel GPU) in:
cc_config.xml
101) Message boards : Number crunching : Issues with 1 GPU on Penta Nano System (Message 1826831)
Posted 26 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The process priority increase only applies to GPU tasks.

1) From cc_config.xml

"
<process_priority>N</process_priority>, <process_priority_special>N</process_priority_special>
   The OS process priority at which tasks are run. Values are 0 (lowest priority, the default), 1 (below normal), 2 (normal), 3 (above normal), 4 (high) and 5 (real-time - not recommended).
'special' process priority is used for coprocessor (GPU) applications, wrapper applications, and non-compute-intensive applications, 'process priority' for all others. The two options can be used independently. (New in 7.6.14)
"

2) Your picture shows CPU task at "Above Normal" Priority:


 
102) Message boards : Number crunching : Moore's Law illustrated (Message 1826822)
Posted 26 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It should have been a ball mouse (they were expensive at the time):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_mouse#Mechanical_mice

Not laser mouse:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_mouse#Laser_mice

"As early as 1998, Sun Microsystems provided a laser mouse with their Sun SPARCstation servers and workstations.
However, laser mice did not enter the mainstream market until 2004, when Paul Machin at Logitech ... introduced its MX 1000 laser mouse"


EDIT:
I didn't understand the "Had a glossy finish with blue grid lines across it" refers to the pad.
So it was probably this "Early optical mice" (LED):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_mouse#Early_optical_mice

"infrared LED and a four-quadrant infrared sensor to detect grid lines printed with infrared absorbing ink on a special metallic surface"
103) Message boards : Number crunching : Issues with 1 GPU on Penta Nano System (Message 1826783)
Posted 26 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
app_config:
<app_config>
  <app>
    <name>setiathome_v8</name>
  <gpu_versions>
    <gpu_usage>1</gpu_usage>
    <cpu_usage>1.4</cpu_usage>
  </gpu_versions>
  </app>
  <app>
    <name>astropulse_v7</name>
  <gpu_versions>
    <gpu_usage>1</gpu_usage>
    <cpu_usage>1.4</cpu_usage>
  </gpu_versions>
  </app>
</app_config>

With <cpu_usage>1.4</cpu_usage> you are asking BOINC to free 1.4 * 5 = 7 cores (of 8 your CPU has)
This may cause sometimes BOINC to refuse to start 5 GPU tasks if there are more than one "High Priority" CPU tasks (in danger to miss deadline)

On this computer with 5 GPU tasks (over 4 real FPUs) is probably better to not run CPU tasks.
104) Message boards : Number crunching : Issues with 1 GPU on Penta Nano System (Message 1826782)
Posted 26 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
cc_config (I had to recreate since I over wrote the test file)
<cc_config>
    <options>
        <use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
    	<process_priority>3</process_priority>
        <exclude_gpu>
            <url>setiathome.berkeley.edu</url>
            <device_num>2</device_num>
        </exclude_gpu>
    </options>
</cc_config>

Are you sure this <exclude_gpu> works?
Format is:
<exclude_gpu>
   <url>project_URL</url>
   [<device_num>N</device_num>]
   [<type>NVIDIA|ATI|intel_gpu</type>]
   [<app>appname</app>]
</exclude_gpu>

Your project_URL is not correct

Better try <ignore_nvidia_dev> which is simpler.
You may ignore all except one GPU to see where/what the GPU load will be and then for next test change numbers:

Test GPU 0:
<ignore_nvidia_dev>1</ignore_nvidia_dev>
<ignore_nvidia_dev>2</ignore_nvidia_dev>
<ignore_nvidia_dev>3</ignore_nvidia_dev>
<ignore_nvidia_dev>4</ignore_nvidia_dev>


Test GPU 1:
<ignore_nvidia_dev>0</ignore_nvidia_dev>

<ignore_nvidia_dev>2</ignore_nvidia_dev>
<ignore_nvidia_dev>3</ignore_nvidia_dev>
<ignore_nvidia_dev>4</ignore_nvidia_dev>


Test GPU 2:
<ignore_nvidia_dev>0</ignore_nvidia_dev>
<ignore_nvidia_dev>1</ignore_nvidia_dev>

<ignore_nvidia_dev>3</ignore_nvidia_dev>
<ignore_nvidia_dev>4</ignore_nvidia_dev>

...


Also it is not known to me why do you need/want <process_priority>3</process_priority> (above normal) for CPU tasks
 
105) Message boards : Number crunching : Moore's Law illustrated (Message 1826777)
Posted 26 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
"laser mouse" in 1988 ?
106) Message boards : Number crunching : Issues with 1 GPU on Penta Nano System (Message 1826776)
Posted 26 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Post the contents (if any) of app_config.xml and mb_cmdline_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5.txt

Also the relevant lines from Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E) about BOINC GPU detection
and relevant lines from cc_config.xml where you did <exclude_gpu> or <ignore_nvidia_dev>

I think "the device # did change when I reverted to beta 4" is just some coincidence - if you mean that BOINC GPU detection changed and show different device # for the same GPU
 
107) Questions and Answers : Windows : SETI@Home not using my GPU (Message 1826773)
Posted 26 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You have 2 tasks "SETI@home v8 v8.12 (opencl_nvidia_SoG)" - "Sent 9 Sep 2016" but still not computed:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8028538&offset=20&show_names=0&state=1&appid=

Also "Application details" for "SETI@home v8 8.12 windows_intelx86 (opencl_nvidia_SoG)" show:
Number of tasks completed 0
Consecutive valid tasks 0
Average turnaround time 53.95 days <-- the other apps on your computer show here much less
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=8028538

Was this computer OFF for a long time?

Or do the GPU tasks/apps stall?
(e.g. if you pause/resume tasks or restart BOINC those tasks start from 0% - which means they did not really compute (but BOINC shows fake "Progress"))
On this GPU (GeForce GT 610) the tasks may take "long" (2-10 h (?)) but not days.
If the GPU driver crashed - Windows need restart (try that first if the computer was used for a long time without restart)

When the GPU tasks run do you see any GPU load?
108) Message boards : Number crunching : Issues with 1 GPU on Penta Nano System (Message 1826686)
Posted 25 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I decided to drop back to beta4 to see what happens. Seems like I lost all work in progress in doing this. Not sure why, since I used the installer.

<version_num>819</version_num> in v0.45_Beta5 don't exist in beta4
<version_num>812</version_num> is the highest in beta4

Look in:
MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5.aistub
109) Questions and Answers : Windows : Can I run SETI on two different computers at once using same account (Message 1826566)
Posted 24 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
both seem to run the same task

How do you see that? (it is not possible unless you do manual copy of BOINC Data directory - in which case you will get errors if you run (Report) the same files on 2 computers)
If in BOINC Manager - do you see the full task name?

Some task names are long:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8118518&offset=0&show_names=1&state=0&appid=
110) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Task description? (Message 1826562)
Posted 24 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What "description" do you need/want?

Maybe?:
Understanding what the BLC name means:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=80380

SETIspirit (Sky Map, sound, ...) for running tasks:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76360
http://www.setispirit.de/downloads.htm
111) Message boards : Number crunching : Issues with 1 GPU on Penta Nano System (Message 1826546)
Posted 24 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I forgot that SIV - System Information Viewer also shows this (only for BOINC processes)
Right-Click [Windows] button -> BOINC Status

It also have on that window "[ ] CPU Affinity" check-box but I don't know what exactly it does
(the tooltip say something - hover over [ ] to see "Allow %s to optimise the CPU Affinity of BOINC processes")

112) Message boards : Number crunching : Issues with 1 GPU on Penta Nano System (Message 1826523)
Posted 24 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
No. What I need is:
http://clip2net.com/s/3DCFYVb
for all 5 tasks.


The background looks like task manager, but I am not sure what the dialog box in the foreground is. How do I display that information?

He needs "Processor Affinity" (some programs show it as "CPU Affinity" or just "Affinity")
Some show cores as 0 1 2 3 ... and some 1 2 3 4 ...

My screenshots from:

Process Lasso
https://bitsum.com/

System Explorer
http://systemexplorer.net/








I used this site for the above pictures (which are saved as PNG to avoid any quality loss):
https://postimage.org/
113) Message boards : Number crunching : Anyone want to talk about or give/receive advice on Boinc Tasks? (Message 1826498)
Posted 24 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
My BoincTasks Settings - History:




Read:
BoincTasks - Settings
http://efmer.com/b/?q=boinctasks_settings

BoincTasks - History tab
http://www.efmer.com/forum/index.php?topic=154.0
114) Message boards : Number crunching : BoincTasks under Linux (Message 1826490)
Posted 24 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Linux has its own native boinc client.

Running windows boinc under wine is just adding unneeded complexity and overhead....

Nobody was talking about "Running windows boinc under wine"
See the title: "BoincTasks under Linux"

BoincTasks
 
115) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1826453)
Posted 24 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
. . @ BILBG
. . I finally got up the nerve to try your method for recovering ghosted tasks.

I don't remember posting "method for recovering ghosted tasks", this should be someone else ;)
116) Message boards : Number crunching : Anything relating to AstroPulse tasks (Message 1826439)
Posted 24 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
To add to the 'correlation':
Name						Size		Packed Size

ap_27no15ab_B2_P0_00197_20161021_05174.wu	8 392 048	8 250 520
ap_27no15ab_B4_P0_00256_20161022_08517.wu	8 392 049	8 173 070
ap_26no15ab_B6_P1_00143_20161021_00467.wu	8 392 046	8 157 098
ap_26no15ab_B4_P0_00390_20161021_06722.wu	8 392 046	8 144 967
ap_29ja16ab_B4_P1_00386_20161022_20839.wu	8 392 048	8 143 932
ap_26no15ab_B4_P1_00216_20161021_07988.wu	8 392 048	8 091 656
ap_27ja16ab_B4_P1_00046_20161021_18744.wu	8 392 046	8 053 604
ap_27ja16ab_B6_P1_00049_20161022_14654.wu	8 392 043	7 751 095
ap_29ja16ab_B1_P0_00184_20161021_28890.wu	8 392 047	7 199 112
ap_29ja16ab_B2_P1_00214_20161022_02854.wu	8 392 047	6 649 418


ap_29ja16ab_b1_p0_00184_20161021_28890.wu_1	00:00:05 (-), percent blanked: 100.000	
ap_26no15ab_b4_p1_00216_20161021_07988.wu_2	00:00:05 (00:00:01), percent blanked: 100.000	
ap_26no15ab_b4_p0_00390_20161021_06722.wu_1	00:00:05 (-), percent blanked: 100.000	
ap_27no15ab_b2_p0_00197_20161021_05174.wu_0	00:00:05 (-), percent blanked: 100.000	
ap_26no15ab_b6_p1_00143_20161021_00467.wu_0	00:00:05 (-), percent blanked: 100.000	
ap_27ja16ab_b4_p1_00046_20161021_18744.wu_0	00:00:05 (-), percent blanked: 100.000	
ap_27ja16ab_b6_p1_00049_20161022_14654.wu_0	00:00:05 (-), percent blanked: 100.000	
ap_29ja16ab_b2_p1_00214_20161022_02854.wu_1	00:00:05 (00:00:01), percent blanked: 100.000	
ap_27no15ab_b4_p0_00256_20161022_08517.wu_0	00:00:05 (00:00:01), percent blanked: 100.000	
ap_29ja16ab_b4_p1_00386_20161022_20839.wu_1	00:00:05 (-), percent blanked: 100.000	


One of them received a full Credit 469.26
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?userid=8647488&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=20

I still keep all the WUs from the 3 batches, will you need any of them or can I delete them to free HDD space?
117) Message boards : Number crunching : blc5_2bit_guppi_57432_29262_HIP57757_0015 Download Errors (Message 1825604)
Posted 20 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
That person have 2 (of 3) computers with many "Error while downloading"
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7948310&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7931997&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=
118) Message boards : Number crunching : Anything relating to AstroPulse tasks (Message 1825594)
Posted 20 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
My last batch:

As Zip (by 7-Zip):
Name						Size		Packed Size

ap_04no09ad_B2_P1_00309_20161011_17897.wu	8 392 048	8 339 297
ap_09jl16ab_B0_P0_00288_20161011_03910.wu	8 392 034	8 285 678
ap_08dc15ab_B2_P1_00192_20161012_18477.wu	8 392 046	8 272 162
ap_04no09ad_B4_P0_00260_20161011_30846.wu	8 392 050	8 271 838
ap_09no15ab_B2_P0_00107_20161012_17519.wu	8 392 045	8 248 996
ap_09jl16ab_B4_P1_00148_20161012_09820.wu	8 392 042	8 218 672
ap_03fe16ab_B3_P0_00111_20161011_00622.wu	8 392 044	8 176 852
ap_02dc15ab_B5_P0_00069_20161011_11441.wu	8 392 042	8 165 648
ap_02dc15ab_B4_P1_00157_20161011_14053.wu	8 392 049	8 159 584
ap_02dc15ab_B4_P0_00008_20161011_12510.wu	8 392 043	8 156 170
ap_08dc15ab_B4_P0_00257_20161012_21155.wu	8 392 049	8 151 843
ap_02dc15ab_B4_P0_00270_20161011_12510.wu	8 392 049	8 073 935
ap_02dc15ab_B2_P0_00322_20161011_17909.wu	8 392 047	7 461 277
ap_03fe16ab_B1_P0_00035_20161011_28027.wu	8 392 043	6 930 776
ap_02fe16ab_B1_P0_00383_20161011_11182.wu	8 392 047	6 922 137
ap_03fe16ab_B1_P0_00344_20161011_28027.wu	8 392 046	6 891 399
ap_09jl16ab_B3_P1_00222_20161012_12283.wu	8 392 049	4 484 148
ap_02dc15ab_B3_P1_00385_20161011_12454.wu	8 392 050	4 457 975


Finish:
ap_08dc15ab_b2_p1_00192_20161012_18477.wu_0	00:00:03 (-), percent blanked: 100.000	
ap_08dc15ab_b4_p0_00257_20161012_21155.wu_0	00:00:03 (-), percent blanked: 100.000	
ap_09jl16ab_b4_p1_00148_20161012_09820.wu_0	02:02:57 (00:09:44), single pulses: 0, repetitive pulses: 1, percent blanked: 4.840	
ap_02dc15ab_b2_p0_00322_20161011_17909.wu_0	00:00:05 (00:00:01), percent blanked: 100.000	
ap_02dc15ab_b4_p0_00008_20161011_12510.wu_1	00:00:04 (-), percent blanked: 100.000	
ap_02dc15ab_b4_p1_00157_20161011_14053.wu_0	00:00:03 (-), percent blanked: 100.000	
ap_02dc15ab_b4_p0_00270_20161011_12510.wu_0	00:00:03 (-), percent blanked: 100.000	
ap_02dc15ab_b3_p1_00385_20161011_12454.wu_0	00:00:03 (00:00:01), percent blanked: 100.000	
ap_02dc15ab_b5_p0_00069_20161011_11441.wu_0	00:00:03 (-), percent blanked: 100.000	
ap_02fe16ab_b1_p0_00383_20161011_11182.wu_0	00:00:04 (00:00:01), percent blanked: 100.000	
ap_03fe16ab_b1_p0_00035_20161011_28027.wu_1	00:00:03 (-), percent blanked: 100.000	
ap_03fe16ab_b1_p0_00344_20161011_28027.wu_0	00:00:04 (00:00:01), percent blanked: 100.000	
ap_03fe16ab_b3_p0_00111_20161011_00622.wu_0	00:00:03 (-), percent blanked: 100.000	
ap_09jl16ab_b3_p1_00222_20161012_12283.wu_0	00:00:04 (00:00:01), percent blanked: 100.000	
ap_04no09ad_b2_p1_00309_20161011_17897.wu_1	02:07:53 (00:05:46), single pulses: 1, repetitive pulses: 1, percent blanked: 0.000	
ap_04no09ad_b4_p0_00260_20161011_30846.wu_0	02:04:35 (00:07:11), single pulses: 0, repetitive pulses: 1, percent blanked: 5.520	
ap_09jl16ab_b0_p0_00288_20161011_03910.wu_0	02:05:24 (00:05:10), single pulses: 2, repetitive pulses: 0, percent blanked: 0.000	
ap_09no15ab_b2_p0_00107_20161012_17519.wu_1	02:13:41 (00:20:07), single pulses: 1, repetitive pulses: 0, percent blanked: 89.600	
119) Message boards : Number crunching : Open Beta test: SoG for NVidia, Lunatics v0.45 - Beta6 (RC again) (Message 1824172)
Posted 14 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I can't even download it myself using Chrome, but I suspect the reason is, in Google's words,...

Just for info:

No problem to Download by:
FlashPeak Slimjet Browser Portable 3.1.6.0 (Chromium 40)
("Enable phishing and malware protection" is checked)

... and scan by:
ESET NOD32 Antivirus 4

Lunatics_Win32_v0.45_Beta5-for-SoG_setup.exe
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/26418a11df9d6f08d0877143e0a41cfb7e66af523cc90d523fc701b21c2244cb/analysis/1476439682/

Lunatics_Win64_v0.45_Beta5-for-SoG_setup.exe
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/4cf019d4da6ff8905503f9ffb087c317127b3b813036581ec445e4d695cfd73b/analysis/1476439815/
120) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1824146)
Posted 14 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
And a test with archive with password=pass

QOpt 1.02j pass.7z - 0 / 54 - I wonder if it will ever be 'flagged'
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/161f5fd77932c741d74ca2bae73d2047fee16e32329a542b152e6d3c9e1586c8/analysis/1476424125/

This allows for no problem Download but of course may give problem on extract.
Such file may be put as alternative Download - e.g. by name QOpt_1.02j_password=pass.7z
 
121) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home v8.19 Windows GPU applications support thread (Message 1824145)
Posted 14 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
v8 8.00

So you mean CUDA or what?
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php
122) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1824139)
Posted 14 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
"Funny" test - nested archives
(shows a little less 'detections' which means some Antiviruses can't see deep enough):

QOpt 1.02h.zip - 31 / 57
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/baa0ea7ad7f20328b91545a7635c9cae60c1aefac4a1f0411c543d7f061f99b2/analysis/1476414839/

QOpt 1.02h.zip.zip - 28 / 56
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/68fa1729939d17b15a927bdebae59bcb426db7d50082473c62901a6c924c3940/analysis/1476418625/

QOpt 1.02h.zip.zip.zip - 29 / 56
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/37f245961482da9e20f163de71db5c51aa38bd765506e4e90089fcd5e23ade08/analysis/1476418627/

QOpt 1.02h.zip.7z - 25 / 55
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/167c35d5748b146f0ae7a5f683ec9c76a95bdc672f2aa43f93f406e82a09d114/analysis/1476418629/

QOpt 1.02h.zip.7z.7z - 25 / 55
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/d8809bedebeadb8eb908c7e00868ffce8ec06260d497464cebbc53d2d1134ef9/analysis/1476420082/

EDIT:
"Extreme" nesting:
QOpt 1.02h.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip - 22 / 55
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/eee770dee6622d3c868cc8c53165a1d1b080f2fe9d0c2d7cff7778343d27a77a/analysis/1476421548/

QOpt 1.02h.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip - 21 / 54
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/b756ec15234fa52c319c08ce494623f819545861d7563d302b778097c8f53eb9/analysis/1476421551/

QOpt 1.02h.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip - 22 / 56
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/b5e59452f64e6d04abf9284849484a8bfd473a6087133b54f885a73344253c89/analysis/1476421554/

QOpt 1.02h.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip.zip - 14 / 57
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/9b687ee9eb99674fbffb27ba4c3629127cbd3b93b569087d1767a3eb649187ca/analysis/1476421943/
 
123) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1824119)
Posted 14 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I would appreciate it if you just dropped the 64 bit directory from the zip file entirely. That is the part that gets flagged always.

ftp://jimbocous.servebbs.com/FILE_DISTRO/QOpt/

- have 2 sub-directories to get the 32 or 64 bit files separately

Kaspersky (+ Avira, McAfee, ...) may 'flag' the 64 bit:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e2d06223f5e86a56f316168b41796f06a24451a2034edc01dad251cd6089cf15/analysis/1476412598/

... but who uses other Antiviruses (Symantec) may complain about 32 bit:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/cf58e901bb8723e23bbf1a3f8046f49cc6a7f33c1d2d770d11c0c5af82221bbd/analysis/1476412572/

And the above is only the first scan, it will change in next days.

Change for QOpt 1.02h in 5 days:
32 bit (7 -> 10):
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/406835c02f55a95ccc9299ee026d61dab06b986e7643a38cbb8af8faeb9498ea/analysis/1475946102/
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/406835c02f55a95ccc9299ee026d61dab06b986e7643a38cbb8af8faeb9498ea/analysis/1476413146/

64 bit (10 -> 32):
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/689f423db387ad52f76431c1bb5f3106d44f5971834ef1c5af2793ef7e8a2b5a/analysis/1475922317/
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/689f423db387ad52f76431c1bb5f3106d44f5971834ef1c5af2793ef7e8a2b5a/analysis/1476413189/

For the full QOpt 1.02h.zip (8 / 56 -> 31 / 57):
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/baa0ea7ad7f20328b91545a7635c9cae60c1aefac4a1f0411c543d7f061f99b2/analysis/1475909555/
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/baa0ea7ad7f20328b91545a7635c9cae60c1aefac4a1f0411c543d7f061f99b2/analysis/1476414839/


(I use ESET-NOD32 which don't flag any of these files)
 
124) Message boards : Number crunching : BoincTasks under Linux (Message 1824094)
Posted 14 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Unable to copy/paste as the refresh is set to 4 seconds...

???
On [Computers] tab of BoincTasks
Add computer (if you don't see any computer added in the list)
Click 2 times in 'Password' column where you see *****
Copy/Paste your password


I've changed the settings ...

Not clear which settings
125) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1824091)
Posted 14 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Not essential (only help text)
Check these lines:

ECHO -y Shutdown then restart Boinc Tray if it is running
ECHO If running, Boinc Manager is shut down and later restarted.

ECHO -b Backup SETI@home Client file %QO_Src_File% to %QO_Bkp_File%
ECHO Invokes only the SETI@home Client file backup, then program exits.

(Should be BOINC Client as client_state.xml is BOINC file)
126) Questions and Answers : Windows : Panda Internet Security 2016 detect Seti@Home as virus ! (Message 1824074)
Posted 14 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What is going on with seti@home ?

The correct question is "What is going on with Panda (any Antivirus)?"

The file is this (your filename is wrong, I can't imagine you typed it all?!):
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setiathome_8.19_windows_intelx86__opencl_nvidia_SoG.exe

The file is new (made ready for Download from SETI@home servers on 12 Oct 2016, 0:17:28 UTC):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

... so some Antiviruses are just by default suspicious for "new files / not commonly Downloaded files"

Scan by 55 Antiviruses:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/be68135f679d17af067cb9621b52adf66c5ffa1fa4edbfbf05aa282579a62eaa/analysis/
127) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1823538)
Posted 11 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Perhaps the " 2>NUL" solves that

2>NUL redirects STDERR to NUL so the "Could Not Find ...\slots\boinc_finish_called" error from Del will go to "nowhere"
>NUL is the same as 1>NUL
You can see use of 2>NUL in MBbench210.cmd

From Windows help (F1 on Desktop):
Handle 	Numeric equivalent of handle 	Description 
STDIN 	0 				Keyboard input 
STDOUT 	1 				Output to the Command Prompt window 
STDERR 	2 				Error output to the Command Prompt window 
128) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1823534)
Posted 11 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Should be able to just paste the ftp link into any modern browser and go from there ...

I think even 15 years old browser will do
(IIRC I used Opera 3.x in Windows 3.1 for ftp links in ~1999 and Internet by modem)
129) Message boards : Number crunching : BoincTasks under Linux (Message 1823527)
Posted 11 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
On Windows BoincTasks connects to the localhost BOINC automatically by reading gui_rpc_auth.cfg and using the password inside.
You don't have to delete gui_rpc_auth.cfg - instead Copy/Paste the password from it to [Computers] tab of BoincTasks
Or type your own password in gui_rpc_auth.cfg

It seems that Wine is like VM (?) so BoincTasks and BOINC run on different logical computers (?)
So if Wine + BoincTasks is "Remote computer" as BOINC see it - you may read:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Controlling_BOINC_remotely#Remote_access

i.e. you need remote_hosts.cfg in BOINC Data directory with contents like this:
My-comp1-name
My-comp2-name
My-comp3-name

192.168.1.1
192.168.1.2
192.168.1.3

192.168.0.1
192.168.0.2
192.168.0.3

192.168.0.100
192.168.0.101
192.168.0.102
192.168.0.103


Then you may also use menu in BoincTasks: Computer -> Find computers

http://efmer.com/b/?q=boinctasks_manual
http://efmer.com/b/?q=boinctasks_manual_net
130) Message boards : Number crunching : Monitoring inconclusive GBT validations and harvesting data for testing (Message 1823228)
Posted 10 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
But in the reality if we removed the 30 limit block and let the code in all variants crunch through in this whole WU it would get the same amount 78 Spikes, 112 Pulses, 7 Tripplets found ...

As noted by Raistmer ("somewhere", in last days) ~"there is no reasonable theoretical limit on the # of signals a WU may contain/generate"
So your example may yield to 78000000 Spikes, 112000 Pulses, ... and memory will really overflow
131) Message boards : Number crunching : Running asteroids@home as well as seti@home has caused 100 seti@home projects to be abandoned., (Message 1823224)
Posted 10 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Just today I had 100 seti@home tasks expire.

Anyone got any theories as to why his system dumped 100 tasks on the 4th of Oct?

- if he "Remove SETI@home project" then "Add" it again?
- if new hostid is created?
- if the same BOINC Data directory is Copied to another computer and both used at the same time?

(I think in all those cases the tasks will show as "Abandoned" (not "expired") but I don't know if anything of this happened)
132) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1823218)
Posted 10 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
if %QO_log% EQU y ECHO. Program command line was:>>%QO_logfile%
if %QO_log% EQU y ECHO. %0 %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %6 %7 %8 %9>>%QO_logfile%

Have "%6 %6"
if %QO_log% EQU y ECHO. Program command line was:>>%QO_logfile%
if %QO_log% EQU y ECHO.  %0 %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9>>%QO_logfile%
::: - You may also try:
if %QO_log% EQU y ECHO.  %CMDCMDLINE%>>%QO_logfile%
133) Message boards : Number crunching : Wow! Unexpected Result From SoG Command Line in Stock (Message 1823206)
Posted 10 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
But beware -period_iterations_num >40 can result in screen lags.

That should be:
"But beware -period_iterations_num < 40 can result in screen lags."
134) Message boards : Number crunching : BoincTasks under Linux (Message 1823205)
Posted 10 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I don't know "How to be connected" (in this Linux/wine case) but you may diagnose:

From BoincTasks menu:
Show -> Log
... and at bottom check: [v] Enable debug mode

Restart BoincTasks and look in the Show -> Log what BoincTasks try to do.

Note: BOINC itself have to run for BoincTasks to be able to connect to it.
135) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1823202)
Posted 10 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
For that 'REM' - choose one of the 2 lines (per your liking) as a fix:
REM     (S3) @ 1.02 - boinc_finish_called clean-up give err msg, needs if exist handling

If Exist slots\*.*  Del /S slots\boinc_finish_called  >>%QO_logfile%  2>NUL
If Exist slots\*.*  For /R slots %%f in (.) do  If Exist "%%f\boinc_finish_called"  (Echo Del "%%f\boinc_finish_called" & Del "%%f\boinc_finish_called")  >>%QO_logfile%
136) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home v8.12 Windows GPU applications support thread (Message 1822939)
Posted 9 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
"is that the same" - which "that"?
'Snooze GPU' is from the BOINC Manager icon in systray

"if there is a difference" - between?
"the second option" - which is it?
'Snooze GPU' is not "Read config file"

"Read config file" - Read again cc_config.xml & app_config.xml

As you can see from the page on cc_config.xml :
"If you edit the file while BOINC is running, the changes will take effect only if you select the Advanced / Read config file menu item. (Note: some changes in the <options> section take effect only when you restart the BOINC client)."

(Quote only the part which you will comment to avoid confusion)
137) Message boards : Number crunching : Anything relating to AstroPulse tasks (Message 1822935)
Posted 9 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Last on this:
From BoincMonitor v0.2 (installed by BoincTasks 1.61 installer) - the same tasks after finishing:
ap_08jl16aa_b3_p1_00126_20161004_15035.wu_0	 00:00:04 (-), percent blanked: 100.000
ap_08jl16aa_b1_p1_00385_20161004_25472.wu_0	 02:02:34 (00:09:51), single pulses: 1, repetitive pulses: 2, percent blanked: 2.390
ap_08jl16aa_b2_p0_00077_20161004_06913.wu_0	 02:03:14 (00:09:01), single pulses: 0, repetitive pulses: 2, percent blanked: 0.000
ap_09jl16aa_b0_p0_00027_20161004_20016.wu_0	 02:03:13 (00:09:13), single pulses: 1, repetitive pulses: 1, percent blanked: 0.000
ap_08jl16aa_b4_p0_00087_20161004_31217.wu_0	 02:03:23 (00:09:17), single pulses: 2, repetitive pulses: 4, percent blanked: 0.000
ap_09jl16aa_b3_p0_00360_20161005_09911.wu_1	 02:01:21 (00:09:55), single pulses: 2, repetitive pulses: 0, percent blanked: 3.670
ap_09jl16aa_b5_p0_00053_20161005_06526.wu_0	 02:03:46 (00:09:43), single pulses: 1, repetitive pulses: 2, percent blanked: 2.440
ap_12jl16aa_b0_p0_00144_20161005_23627.wu_0	 02:03:20 (00:09:01), single pulses: 1, repetitive pulses: 0, percent blanked: 2.340	
ap_12jl16aa_b1_p1_00312_20161005_11040.wu_1	 02:01:58 (00:15:57), single pulses: 0, repetitive pulses: 0, percent blanked: 88.600
ap_12jl16aa_b6_p0_00007_20161005_20404.wu_1	 02:08:30 (00:16:08), single pulses: 1, repetitive pulses: 0, percent blanked: 79.200
ap_11fe16aa_b5_p1_00276_20161005_08824.wu_0	 00:00:03 (-), percent blanked: 100.000
ap_12jl16aa_b1_p0_00049_20161005_28118.wu_1	 02:05:34 (00:13:12), single pulses: 0, repetitive pulses: 0, percent blanked: 45.800
ap_12jl16aa_b1_p1_00014_20161005_11040.wu_0	 02:07:01 (00:14:46), single pulses: 0, repetitive pulses: 0, percent blanked: 64.200
ap_13fe16aa_b1_p1_00054_20161005_17091.wu_1	 00:00:03 (-), percent blanked: 100.000
ap_12fe16aa_b6_p0_00151_20161005_08239.wu_1	 00:00:04 (00:00:01), percent blanked: 100.000
ap_12jl16aa_b5_p1_00153_20161005_20405.wu_0	 02:08:33 (00:15:27), single pulses: 1, repetitive pulses: 0, percent blanked: 70.400
ap_11fe16aa_b3_p0_00331_20161005_29669.wu_1	 00:00:04 (-), percent blanked: 100.000
ap_11fe16aa_b3_p0_00383_20161005_29669.wu_0	 00:00:03 (-), percent blanked: 100.000
ap_13fe16aa_b1_p0_00047_20161005_30093.wu_0	 00:00:03 (-), percent blanked: 100.000
ap_12fe16aa_b6_p1_00046_20161005_08228.wu_0	 00:00:04 (-), percent blanked: 100.000
ap_11jl16aa_b4_p0_00010_20161005_13222.wu_0	 01:39:15 (00:05:55), single pulses: 27, repetitive pulses: 30, percent blanked: 0.000
138) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home v8.12 Windows GPU applications support thread (Message 1822927)
Posted 9 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Not all the tasks lag the same - VLAR lag most, VHAR least

The new apps r3500+ have much less lag

No need to wait for "each new task" - just check/uncheck 'Snooze GPU' after you change the cmdline
139) Message boards : Number crunching : Mac OS Sierra (Message 1822516)
Posted 7 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Site is this:
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/

When you "Add project" Copy/Paste this in the URL field:
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/
140) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home v8.12 Windows GPU applications support thread (Message 1822499)
Posted 7 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
. . This is off topic but I am not sure where to ask this question.

Such questions in "Panic Mode On (###) Server Problems?"
Last posts in it talk about this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79575&postid=1822079#1822079
141) Message boards : Number crunching : Monitoring inconclusive GBT validations and harvesting data for testing (Message 1822491)
Posted 7 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
And "gold standart" would be fully double-precision build.

Is it possible to compile double-precision CPU app by just changing compiler options/switches?
i.e. to set 'float' be interpreted as 'double'

It may be stupid but what will happen if:
#define float double
142) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1822458)
Posted 7 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
- boinctray.exe is running
- boinctray.exe shutdown requested
- boinctray.exe shutdown confirmed

People which do this (kill boinctray.exe and not restart it) may see how BOINC later may/will not obey the Setting: "Suspend when computer is in use" (and other "Suspend" modes which depend on monitoring mouse/keyboard)

No any need to kill boinctray.exe
It is "invisible" process (no GUI, no icon) which only monitors mouse/keyboard - needed for Windows Vista, 7 ++ (not needed for Windows XP)


a case where there's enough of an outage that a CPU or GPU queue runs dry while its counterpart still has work. That might well be worthwhile to develop.

Another thing that could be worth addressing would be relocating APs from CPU to GPU queue
Funny thing, I just received 4 AP tasks today for the CPU and was thinking that very thing. They would process so much faster on the GPU and free up lots of time to crunch Guppis on the CPU.

Both can be done by eFMer BOINC Rescheduler - get it and try it (for AP works as-is, for MB needs patching)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79954&postid=1821935#1821935

BOINC Rescheduler have [Test] button which shows the current conditions and what will happen.
Have "Simulation mode, only create a new state file" on [Expert] tab - then [Run] will only create a new client_state.xml in the BOINC Rescheduler's "Temp folder:" but not copy it over the original (i.e. will not modify BOINC Data directory) so you'll have the opportunity to compare the changes.


The only problem seems to be if you have tasks from SETI@home Beta (similar to the problem with GUPPI Rescheduler)
143) Message boards : Number crunching : Anything relating to AstroPulse tasks (Message 1822443)
Posted 7 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
As Zip (by 7-Zip):
ap_12jl16aa_B0_P0_00144_20161005_23627.wu	8 392 031	8 289 712
ap_12jl16aa_B1_P0_00049_20161005_28118.wu	8 392 045	8 274 725
ap_12jl16aa_B6_P0_00007_20161005_20404.wu	8 392 041	8 243 336
ap_09jl16aa_B5_P0_00053_20161005_06526.wu	8 392 043	8 228 482
ap_12jl16aa_B1_P1_00312_20161005_11040.wu	8 392 048	8 208 788
ap_12jl16aa_B5_P1_00153_20161005_20405.wu	8 392 044	8 190 073
ap_12jl16aa_B1_P1_00014_20161005_11040.wu	8 392 042	8 188 052
ap_11fe16aa_B3_P0_00383_20161005_29669.wu	8 392 049	8 169 625
ap_11fe16aa_B3_P0_00331_20161005_29669.wu	8 392 049	8 164 872
ap_12fe16aa_B6_P1_00046_20161005_08228.wu	8 392 045	8 162 390
ap_11jl16aa_B4_P0_00010_20161005_13222.wu	8 392 041	8 114 530
ap_13fe16aa_B1_P1_00054_20161005_17091.wu	8 392 045	7 951 947
ap_13fe16aa_B1_P0_00047_20161005_30093.wu	8 392 045	6 690 429
ap_12fe16aa_B6_P0_00151_20161005_08239.wu	8 392 043	6 593 452
ap_11fe16aa_B5_P1_00276_20161005_08824.wu	8 392 043	6 330 350


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144) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Is it worth running the Intel GPU app? (Message 1822436)
Posted 7 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
(if nobody has looked at this)?

Done > 2 years ago:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75215
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75971
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76814
145) Message boards : Number crunching : Request for help with stable driver for Radeon HD 6670 / Windows 10 64-bit (Message 1821953)
Posted 5 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
But you don't have Windows 10 in your list of computers

It was posted many times by Jeff Buck that "that setting turned out to be little more than a placebo"
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77121&postid=1818349#1818349

I also don't have Windows 10 but here are 2 programs that change that Setting (and maybe others) but they have to be tested how well the Settings are persisted:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=80289&postid=1821423#1821423
146) Message boards : Number crunching : When Did these Changes Occur? (Message 1821950)
Posted 5 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Is it possible to go back to stock from Lunatics and not lose current work?

I don't think it's possible (it involves 'Project Reset')

But you may wait "a few" days/weeks for the "final" Lunatics v0.45
Or just now try Lunatics v0.45 - Beta4 (have SoG for NVidia r3500)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79704
147) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1821935)
Posted 5 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Fred's Rescheduler is GUI, no need for front-end


I thought it was a dead product.

I posted how to "revive" it here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79954&postid=1810090#1810090
148) Message boards : Number crunching : Anything relating to AstroPulse tasks (Message 1821927)
Posted 5 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
OK, I started all of them (run each for 3-6 minutes (2-4 checkpoints) "to be sure" then suspended)
Only the B3_P1 finished in 4 seconds with "percent blanked: 100.00"

Then I paused the Computing and searched in 'slots' for files containing <fraction_blanked>

In no particular order:
<fraction_blanked>0.000000</fraction_blanked>
<fraction_blanked>0.000000</fraction_blanked>
<fraction_blanked>0.023937</fraction_blanked>
<fraction_blanked>0.000000</fraction_blanked>
<fraction_blanked>0.036657</fraction_blanked>
149) Message boards : Number crunching : Anything relating to AstroPulse tasks (Message 1821910)
Posted 5 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
As Zip ("Best" compression in WinRAR):
ap_08jl16aa_B1_P1_00385_20161004_25472.wu	8 392 050	8 287 501
ap_08jl16aa_B2_P0_00077_20161004_06913.wu	8 392 049	8 299 783
ap_08jl16aa_B3_P1_00126_20161004_15035.wu	8 392 051	4 691 148
ap_08jl16aa_B4_P0_00087_20161004_31217.wu	8 392 049	8 164 175
ap_09jl16aa_B0_P0_00027_20161004_20016.wu	8 392 031	8 266 014
ap_09jl16aa_B3_P0_00360_20161005_09911.wu	8 392 047	8 316 063


I have a copy of the files, still didn't started the one that compress to 4 691 148
150) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1821905)
Posted 5 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Just to report that BOINC Rescheduler from eFMer also have problem with SETI@home Beta:

01 October 2016 - 18:23:13 BoincRescheduler V: 2.7

01 October 2016 - 18:23:18 SETI@home v8
01 October 2016 - 18:23:18 Application setiathome_v8 found, Version: 812 , Plan class: opencl_ati5_sah
01 October 2016 - 18:23:18 Application setiathome_v8 found, Version: 812 , Plan class: opencl_ati5_cat132
01 October 2016 - 18:23:18 Application setiathome_v8 found, Version: 812 , Plan class: opencl_ati5_nocal
01 October 2016 - 18:23:18 Application setiathome_v8 found, Version: 812 , Plan class: opencl_ati5_SoG
01 October 2016 - 18:23:18 Application setiathome_v8 found, Version: 812 , Plan class: opencl_ati5_SoG_cat132
01 October 2016 - 18:23:18 Application setiathome_v8 found, Version: 812 , Plan class: opencl_ati5_SoG_nocal
01 October 2016 - 18:23:18 Application setiathome_v8 found, Version: 812 , Plan class: opencl_atiapu_sah
01 October 2016 - 18:23:18 Application setiathome_v8 found, Version: 812 , Plan class: opencl_atiapu_SoG
01 October 2016 - 18:23:18 Application setiathome_v8 found, Version: 812 , Plan class: opencl_ati_sah
01 October 2016 - 18:23:18 Application setiathome_v8 found, Version: 812 , Plan class: opencl_ati_cat132
01 October 2016 - 18:23:18 Application setiathome_v8 found, Version: 812 , Plan class: opencl_ati_nocal
01 October 2016 - 18:23:18 Application setiathome_v8 found, Version: 800
01 October 2016 - 18:23:18 Application setiathome_v8 found, Version: 819 , Plan class: opencl_ati5_sah
01 October 2016 - 18:23:18 Found: CPU: 0, VLAR: 0, VHAR: 0
01 October 2016 - 18:23:18 Found: GPU: 87, VLAR: 58, VHAR: 0
01 October 2016 - 18:23:18 Average: Ratio Gpu: 9.190836, count: 87, invalid 0
01 October 2016 - 18:23:18 Ratio CPU: min: -1.000000 max: -1.000000 - Ratio Gpu: min: 8.553368 max 9.820253
01 October 2016 - 18:23:18 Rescheduling needed

01 October 2016 - 18:24:51 Other
01 October 2016 - 18:24:52 Application setiathome_v8 found, Version: 812 , Plan class: opencl_ati5_sah
01 October 2016 - 18:24:52 Application setiathome_v8 found, Version: 812 , Plan class: opencl_ati5_cat132
01 October 2016 - 18:24:52 Application setiathome_v8 found, Version: 812 , Plan class: opencl_ati5_nocal
01 October 2016 - 18:24:52 Application setiathome_v8 found, Version: 812 , Plan class: opencl_ati5_SoG
01 October 2016 - 18:24:52 Application setiathome_v8 found, Version: 812 , Plan class: opencl_ati5_SoG_cat132
01 October 2016 - 18:24:52 Application setiathome_v8 found, Version: 812 , Plan class: opencl_ati5_SoG_nocal
01 October 2016 - 18:24:52 Application setiathome_v8 found, Version: 812 , Plan class: opencl_atiapu_sah
01 October 2016 - 18:24:52 Application setiathome_v8 found, Version: 812 , Plan class: opencl_atiapu_SoG
01 October 2016 - 18:24:52 Application setiathome_v8 found, Version: 812 , Plan class: opencl_ati_sah
01 October 2016 - 18:24:52 Application setiathome_v8 found, Version: 812 , Plan class: opencl_ati_cat132
01 October 2016 - 18:24:52 Application setiathome_v8 found, Version: 812 , Plan class: opencl_ati_nocal
01 October 2016 - 18:24:52 Application setiathome_v8 found, Version: 800
01 October 2016 - 18:24:52 Application setiathome_v8 found, Version: 819 , Plan class: opencl_ati5_sah
01 October 2016 - 18:24:52 Average: Ratio Gpu: 9.190836, count: 87, invalid 0
01 October 2016 - 18:24:52 Ratio CPU: min: -1.000000 max: -1.000000 - Ratio Gpu: min: 8.553368 max 9.820253
01 October 2016 - 18:24:52 No rescheduling needed


[Other] tab have in the two boxes:
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/
setiathome_v8

At that moment BoincTasks showed 87 tasks from SETI@home + 2 tasks from SETI@home Beta
As you see from the BOINC Rescheduler log - it didn't find the 2 Beta tasks and instead "found" the same info for both projects "mixing" Version: 819 (which is only for Beta)
151) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1821878)
Posted 5 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Though I wouldn't recommend running 0.49. I've fixed a lot of problems since then:)

As you know I don't run any version.
QOpt.0.49.cmd is just the last file you sent me to proofread.

The link for "Bat To Exe Converter" is 'bad' in your post, fixed:
http://www.f2ko.de/en/b2e.php
152) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1821860)
Posted 5 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
All this is is a batch (.cmd) file that's compiled to try and speed up a few things.

Which BAT2EXE do you use?:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=BAT2EXE&ia=web

I ask because some of the detections are like this:
Avira (no cloud)      TR/Crypt.XPACK.Gen7

Crypt.XPACK suggests that BAT2EXE compresses (XPACK) or enCrypts parts of the .exe
Do you use any such Option/flag/switch for BAT2EXE ?

If this (compiling) is only for "speed up" (and not to hide the code) - I don't think it is needed (i.e. compiling will not speed up measurably this .cmd file)

Scan of QOpt.0.49.cmd is "Green" (Clean)
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/2e5a7b436d42f0cd6b704894726aa0c69ea5203a92ecd941451d9a481af65133/analysis/1475646195/
153) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1821852)
Posted 5 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Actually, it seems Windows "Defender" ignored the directory exclusion and nuked the files in some paths. Very unhappy, it should have left the drop box alone.

Set your Antivirus to "Ask me what to do" (i.e. Delete | Clean | Do Nothing)

For ESET NOD32 Antivirus 4 I needed to set this in 3-4 places to be true for "everything" (e.g. Real-time, Manual scan, Web protection...)
(In all cases the file (not yours, some other file) is blocked from Opening/Executing - even if [Do Nothing] is clicked)
154) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1821849)
Posted 5 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Might try this one.

Well, I hate to tell you, but McAfee is not at all happy with this one, and it hadn't previously had a problem with the 64-bit version.

Not fault of the file itself (i.e. McAfee updated signatures):

That version is old enough (found in QOpt 1.02f.zip)

It was scanned (by someone, maybe me) ~3 days ago and "Detection ratio: 8 / 57"
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e2dd48f172c21c5cf1342b98f66357fbda80a3ecea0afc08f2bf713c435a89b1/analysis/1475643640/

The same file scanned now - "Detection ratio: 28 / 56"
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e2dd48f172c21c5cf1342b98f66357fbda80a3ecea0afc08f2bf713c435a89b1/analysis/1475643643/
155) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1821826)
Posted 5 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The previous QOpt_64.exe was fine with Kaspersky.

Which is "The previous QOpt_64.exe"?
Send it to VirusTotal and give link:
https://www.virustotal.com/

https://www.virustotal.com

That one (from Message 1821195 (?)) have only "Detection ratio: 4 / 57" but is no more available.

And half of the Antiviruses' vendors/programmers are crazy, over time the number of False Positive count increases instead of decreasing!
(most "Detect" as "Generic", all 6 that say "Trojan.GenericKD.3572544" depend on BitDefender)
Now "Detection ratio: 25 / 56" (was 10 / 56) for the "latest" QOpt_1_02g_x64
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/60ef32832e9ac2fea560ba52d313893915c1703fc72af411394e0817e58843d3/analysis/

You may use that list as indication of who really analyses the files and who flags them "just in case" because some other Antivirus detects them.
(I think that VirusTotal sends any new file to the labs of All Antivirus vendors for analysis if even only one Antivirus detects it)

And (for that reason?) Jimbocous seem to remove the QOpt_1_02g_x64\QOpt.exe - at the same Download link:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79954&postid=1821271#1821271
156) Message boards : Number crunching : Anything relating to AstroPulse tasks (Message 1821809)
Posted 5 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
With the latest Win10 update, I don't know of a way to have Crimson 15.12 drivers installed on my crunchers without Windows Update eventually upgrading them.

See if anything of this helps:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=80289&postid=1821423#1821423
157) Message boards : Number crunching : Average Credit Decreasing? (Message 1821803)
Posted 5 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
anyway...running that nVidia Quadro2000 with command line:
<cmdline>-use_sleep_ex 1 -sbs 256 -v 6 -period_iterations_num 100</cmdline>

would you (or anyone other) suggest some other configuration for that card?

Not suggesting, just commenting:

-use_sleep_ex 1 : I think this is the same as just -use_sleep

-v 6 : If you don't know why you put this Verbose level (for stderr) - remove it
(From ReadMe_MultiBeam_OpenCL_NV_SoG.txt
    -v 6 enables delays printing where sleep loops used.
)

-period_iterations_num 100 : The default is 50 or 500 depending on GPU (# of CU) (because of -v 6 your stderr don't show # of CU to know the default, I think if CU < 4 (?) app sets 500)
158) Message boards : Number crunching : Average Credit Decreasing? (Message 1821596)
Posted 4 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You have some -v N switch which "deletes" too much info from stderr:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5129640069

Do you need that "Verbose" switch?

that is a WU for a intel HD2500 GPU on CPU...I'm using that also! ;)

Why do you think it is for iGPU ?
It is marked for NVIDIA:
SETI@home v8 v8.12 (opencl_nvidia_sah)
159) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : [WIN10] GPU missing (Message 1821595)
Posted 4 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Edit: By the way, your known system hasn't contacted this project since 27 Sep 2015, so if this is a different system we're talking about, good chance you're using a new account, and another one (with another name) than the one you presently post with.

Yes,
From this line:
10/2/2016 10:17:55 AM | SETI@home | URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 7775739; resource share 100

Computer 7775739
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7775739

"Owner wpn"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=222838
160) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1821430)
Posted 3 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The previous QOpt_64.exe was fine with Kaspersky.

Which is "The previous QOpt_64.exe"?
Send it to VirusTotal and give link:
https://www.virustotal.com/
161) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : [WIN10] GPU missing (Message 1821426)
Posted 3 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I just posted some suggestions on this in adjacent thread:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=80289&postid=1821423#1821423

Were you able to Stop Windows 10 from Automatically installing drivers?
162) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : It says GPU is missing in bionic but screen works just fine. Any help? (Message 1821423)
Posted 3 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Also:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77121&postid=1818325#1818325

1) Stop Windows 10 from Automatically installing drivers.
I'm not sure it is easy to do, you may try some programs which have such setting

W10Privacy:
http://www.winprivacy.de/english-home/

O&O ShutUp10
https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10


2) Install (again) drivers from NVIDIA

Before that you may need to clean (delete) the Microsoft delivered video drivers by:
Display Driver Uninstaller
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html
http://www.wagnardmobile.com/


Note:
The video drivers delivered by Microsoft (despite they are "marked" NVIDIA or AMD/ATI) are not full drivers (they may be without OpenCL or CUDA)
163) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1821274)
Posted 2 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Now it is (QOpt 1.02g.zip) "Detection ratio: 9 / 56" with Avast, Avira, Kaspersky (I list only "famous" Antiviruses):
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/aea7f6a947eb361e14c4cf2ba40193da82af3090776dc1894a12c48ba291269e/analysis/


If someone want to Report "False Positive" - Ctrl+F for e.g. Avast on this page:
http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/how-report-malware-or-false-positives-multiple-antivirus-vendors.htm
164) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1821268)
Posted 2 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
ESET NOD32 Antivirus 4 didn't find any malware but from manual scan I see you use UPX and many UPX Compressed files are flagged "by default" by some Antiviruses

From ESET NOD32 Antivirus 4 Log (the only line) after manual scan:
My Documents\Downloads\Compressed\QOpt 1.02f.zip » ZIP » QOpt_1_02f/QOpt.exe » UPX v13_m14 » BAT2EXE » - archive damaged

From TrID:
TrID/32 - File Identifier v2.10 - (C) 2003-11 By M.Pontello
Definitions found:  5306
Analyzing...

Collecting data from file: QOpt.exe
 42.3% (.EXE) UPX compressed Win32 Executable (30569/9/7)
       Definition   : upx-win32.trid.xml
         Files      : 22
       Author       : Marco Pontello
         E-Mail     : marcopon@gmail.com
         Home Page  : http://mark0.net
         Related URL: http://upx.sourceforge.net/


You can see here "Detection ratio: 11 / 56":
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/a2c394fae24625c35547d57ae93f038cc1c3c770c614f2c630d70d6f37aaaf3c/analysis/

The 32 bit QOpt.exe extracted from the zip (McAfee, Panda):
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/9895669f4568dcf63eeea507a42e2767bd638b68e62060c63069f43c59524757/analysis/

The 64 bit QOpt.exe extracted from the zip (also "detected" despite not using UPX) (Avira, Kaspersky):
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e2dd48f172c21c5cf1342b98f66357fbda80a3ecea0afc08f2bf713c435a89b1/analysis/
 
165) Message boards : Number crunching : Average Credit Decreasing? (Message 1821258)
Posted 2 Oct 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
600GF card is a Quadro2000

I still don't get what 600GF means, Quadro 2000 is GF106GL "Core" per this table:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Quadro

You have some -v N switch which "deletes" too much info from stderr:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5129640069

Do you need that "Verbose" switch?
166) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home v8.12 Windows GPU applications support thread (Message 1820630)
Posted 29 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
And older revision, non-SoG one?

The same.

The previous Beta task: 27jl16aa.5587.171137.8.42.195.vlar_1

This here: blc5_2bit_guppi_57449_46372_HIP81348_OFF_0020.18939.416.17.26.223.vlar_1


Video RAM used 220 MB (by "ATI MemoryViewer" (31.05.2011)):
Maximum single buffer size set to:132MB
...
Info: CPU affinity mask used: 1; system mask is 7
...
OpenCL-kernels filename : MultiBeam_Kernels_r3500.cl 
ar=0.010761  NumCfft=119383  NumGauss=0  NumPulse=50212798336  NumTriplet=63189698720
Currently allocated 185 MB for GPU buffers
In v_BaseLineSmooth: NumDataPoints=1048576, BoxCarLength=8192, NumPointsInChunk=32768
Restarted at 5.21 percent.
Used GPU device parameters are:
	Number of compute units: 6
	Single buffer allocation size: 128MB
	Total device global memory: 512MB
	max WG size: 256
	local mem type: Real
	LotOfMem path: no
	LowPerformanceGPU path: no
	HighPerformanceGPU path: no
period_iterations_num=50


Maximum single buffer size set to:124MB
...
OpenCL-kernels filename : MultiBeam_Kernels_r3500.cl 
ar=0.010761  NumCfft=119383  NumGauss=0  NumPulse=50212798336  NumTriplet=63189698720
Currently allocated 181 MB for GPU buffers
In v_BaseLineSmooth: NumDataPoints=1048576, BoxCarLength=8192, NumPointsInChunk=32768
Restarted at 7.95 percent.
Used GPU device parameters are:
	Number of compute units: 6
	Single buffer allocation size: 124MB
	Total device global memory: 512MB
	max WG size: 256
	local mem type: Real
	LotOfMem path: no
	LowPerformanceGPU path: no
	HighPerformanceGPU path: no
period_iterations_num=50



Seems this is device || driver || OS limitation, see:
"Max memory allocation: 134217728"
 OpenCL Platform Name:					 AMD Accelerated Parallel Processing
Number of devices:				 1
  Max compute units:				 6
  Max work group size:				 256
  Max clock frequency:				 800Mhz
  Max memory allocation:			 134217728
  Cache type:					 None
  Cache line size:				 0
  Cache size:					 0
  Global memory size:				 536870912
  Constant buffer size:				 65536
  Max number of constant args:			 8
  Local memory type:				 Scratchpad
  Local memory size:				 32768
  Queue properties:				 
    Out-of-Order:				 No
  Name:						 Turks
  Vendor:					 Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
  Driver version:				 CAL 1.4.1646
  Version:					 OpenCL 1.1 AMD-APP (831.4)
167) Message boards : Number crunching : Average Credit Decreasing? (Message 1820560)
Posted 29 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Admit it doesn't work & take it to BETA again...

Do you know what are you talking about?
Did you check what is on BETA ?
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/apps.php

The new versions of applications are almost all the time tested on BETA
You run here r3430 - that is Revision3430
On BETA now is tested r3528 - this is many months of work (programming/testing) and nobody pays for this work

Raistmer (*the* programmer) say: "I think we finished with massive testing of 8.19.
Hope Eric will have some time for release after returning from conference."

(8.19 == r3528)
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/forum_thread.php?id=2266&postid=59709#59709

P.S.
* "almost all the time":
"SETI@home v8 beta": First Post: 27 Nov 2015 by Eric Korpela - Last 28 Sep 2016 by Raistmer:
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/forum_thread.php?id=2266&sort_style=6&start=0
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/forum_thread.php?id=2266&postid=59731#59731


And what is "600GF card"??
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=9989358
168) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home v8.12 Windows GPU applications support thread (Message 1820548)
Posted 29 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
BTW, try to experiment if selection works properly - increase -sbs value - will you see switch to non-LoM path?

Пробовал, не берьет ;)

The switch -sbs is "accepted" but have no real effect if > of the default 128

All of:
Maximum single buffer size set to:256MB
Maximum single buffer size set to:144MB
Maximum single buffer size set to:160MB
Maximum single buffer size set to:136MB
Maximum single buffer size set to:130MB
Maximum single buffer size set to:320MB

Result in:
Currently allocated 201 MB for GPU buffers
...
Restarted at x.xx percent.
Used GPU device parameters are:
	Number of compute units: 6
	Single buffer allocation size: 128MB
	Total device global memory: 512MB
	max WG size: 256
	local mem type: Real
	LotOfMem path: yes
	LowPerformanceGPU path: no
	HighPerformanceGPU path: no
period_iterations_num=50

and the video RAM usage is the same: 236 MB (from ~20 at just Desktop)


-sbs really works for me only if < 128
Maximum single buffer size set to:120MB
...
ar=0.012633  NumCfft=146033  NumGauss=0  NumPulse=50210701440  NumTriplet=68004583584
Currently allocated 193 MB for GPU buffers
In v_BaseLineSmooth: NumDataPoints=1048576, BoxCarLength=8192, NumPointsInChunk=32768
Restarted at 14.61 percent.
Used GPU device parameters are:
	Number of compute units: 6
	Single buffer allocation size: 120MB
	Total device global memory: 512MB
	max WG size: 256
	local mem type: Real
	LotOfMem path: yes
	LowPerformanceGPU path: no
	HighPerformanceGPU path: no
period_iterations_num=50


Maximum single buffer size set to:32MB
...
OpenCL-kernels filename : MultiBeam_Kernels_r3528.cl 
ar=0.012633  NumCfft=146033  NumGauss=0  NumPulse=50210701440  NumTriplet=68004583584
Currently allocated 105 MB for GPU buffers
In v_BaseLineSmooth: NumDataPoints=1048576, BoxCarLength=8192, NumPointsInChunk=32768
Restarted at 15.63 percent.
Used GPU device parameters are:
	Number of compute units: 6
	Single buffer allocation size: 32MB
	Total device global memory: 512MB
	max WG size: 256
	local mem type: Real
	LotOfMem path: yes
	LowPerformanceGPU path: no
	HighPerformanceGPU path: no
period_iterations_num=50
169) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home v8.12 Windows GPU applications support thread (Message 1820540)
Posted 29 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
   OK I will not pretend I understand what all that means apart from basically it is a CPU based OpenCL app (am I right?).

No - I posted 2 links to tasks run on my ATI AMD GPU: Radeon HD 6570 on Computer 4832843 and the same physical Computer 72429 on SETI@home Beta.
Read second line of my post - "second line" of text, not the empty one ;) :
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79760&postid=1820358#1820358

"USE_OPENCL_HD5xxx" and "AMD HD5" means ATI AMD Radeon HD 5xxx series (and above)


But it is running pretty well on my Nvidia cards

The MultiBeam_Kernels_r35xx.cl file is the same for ATI AMD and NVIDIA but the .exe is different.
170) Message boards : Number crunching : Linux boinc version 7.6.31 can't run optimized applications (Message 1820430)
Posted 29 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Where do you see the number of CU?

Apps report them in stderr:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5183842312
Max compute units: 44
Number of compute units: 44

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5185565729
Max compute units: 14
Number of compute units: 14
171) Message boards : Number crunching : List of teams (Message 1820416)
Posted 29 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
All of this works:
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/0/user/detail/284136

http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/569a61cde43766e076463a263b1d9a32
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/4877/overview
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/4877/charts
172) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home v8.12 Windows GPU applications support thread (Message 1820399)
Posted 29 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
r3528 is SoG while r3500 isn't.
"Lot of mem" path has meaning only for SoG.

You mean that setiathome_8.19_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_sah.exe is ATI AMD SoG build?

I didn't expected "Total device global memory: 512MB" to be considered "LotOfMem"

EDIT:
OK, I now see "SIGNALS_ON_GPU"
SETI8 Non-graphics OpenCL USE_OPENCL_HD5xxx OCL_ZERO_COPY SIGNALS_ON_GPU OCL_CHIRP3 FFTW AMD specific USE_SSE2 x86
173) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Additional WU (Message 1820395)
Posted 29 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You use the term "turnaround" wrong, what you call "turnaround" in your post is in fact "Run time".
if "I can receive about 2 1/2 work" - that is your turnaround - task received now will be finished and returned/reported to server after ~2.5 days.

You can see here "Average turnaround time 2.14 days":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7072294

And here "Average turnaround time" for every app:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=7072294
174) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home v8.12 Windows GPU applications support thread (Message 1820358)
Posted 29 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The only strange thing of r3528 compared with r3500 (beta vs main) is the report/usage of "LotOfMem path"

(Radeon HD 6570 1024MB / Catalyst 11.12 / Windows XP)
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=72429
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4832843

Both apps run on default (no cmdline)

r3528 reports "LotOfMem path: yes"
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/result.php?resultid=24879952
Used GPU device parameters are:
	Number of compute units: 6
	Single buffer allocation size: 128MB
	Total device global memory: 512MB
	max WG size: 256
	local mem type: Real
	LotOfMem path: yes
	LowPerformanceGPU path: no
	HighPerformanceGPU path: no
period_iterations_num=50


r3500 "LotOfMem path: no"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5122876433
Used GPU device parameters are:
	Number of compute units: 6
	Single buffer allocation size: 128MB
	Total device global memory: 512MB
	max WG size: 256
	local mem type: Real
	LotOfMem path: no
	LowPerformanceGPU path: no
	HighPerformanceGPU path: no
period_iterations_num=50


Notes:
r3528 is from:
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/download/setiathome_8.19_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_sah.exe
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/download/MultiBeam_Kernels_r3528.cl

bd3682cea1edc9f8973f233839b1fd39 *setiathome_8.19_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_sah.exe
277bd652f71c7de826a90064c9280860 *MultiBeam_Kernels_r3528.cl


r3500 is from:
c9080d2b6e940dd6736f737df6260247 *Lunatics_Win32_v0.45_Beta4-for-SoG_setup.exe

dfcf205436ce6b1c85fa35a9a4a66bf8 *MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r3500.exe
277bd652f71c7de826a90064c9280860 *MultiBeam_Kernels_r3500.cl


(MultiBeam_Kernels_r3528.cl == MultiBeam_Kernels_r3500.cl)
175) Message boards : Number crunching : The Saga Begins (LotsaCores 2.0) (Message 1819989)
Posted 26 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If you are in BOINC Data directory this works (I put some boinc_finish_called files in empty slots to test; and the command is in .CMD file):
Del /S slots\boinc_finish_called


h:\BOINC-Data>Del /S slots\boinc_finish_called
Deleted file - h:\BOINC-Data\slots\boinc_finish_called
Deleted file - h:\BOINC-Data\slots\3\boinc_finish_called
Deleted file - h:\BOINC-Data\slots\4\boinc_finish_called
Deleted file - h:\BOINC-Data\slots\7\boinc_finish_called
176) Message boards : Number crunching : List of teams (Message 1819976)
Posted 26 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
BOINC combined
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/team/detail/76007669/overview
"4,598 out of 105,426"

SETI@home
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/0/team/detail/143905
"1,782 out of 63,798"
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/0/team/list/0/1700#1782
177) Message boards : Number crunching : The Saga Begins (LotsaCores 2.0) (Message 1819966)
Posted 26 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
With so many concurrent tasks running on that box, every time BOINC is shut down during a rescheduling run, you run the risk of catching one or more tasks in their shutdown phase, where the finish file has already been written by the app, but before BOINC has checked its existence.

This is idea for the author of QOpt
Tell Jimbocous to just delete all the boinc_finish_called files found in BOINC-Data\slots\* before restarting BOINC
178) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU tribulations (Message 1819935)
Posted 26 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You can try what bcdedit will tell you about boot options (it is not easy to use CMD utility included in the OS since Vista)

There are GUI alternatives like EasyBCD (allows to see/add/edit boot Options)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EasyBCD

If this computer can boot from USB of CD you can boot Mini Windows XP and run anything (e.g. EasyBCD) from it.


Hiren’s BootCD 10.6 - Download at bottom of page:
http://www.hirensbootcd.org/hbcd-v106/

Extract ZIP and Burn ISO to CD (as "image" of course, not as file)
Boot from the CD and choose Mini Windows XP (it will use only RAM disk, will not write to HDD unless you do it)


Or create bootable USB Flash from it:
- I use Easy2Boot for this since it allows to put many ISO files on one USB Flash and boot from any (and keep your own files on the same USB Flash)
but Easy2Boot in fact needs some learning:
http://www.easy2boot.com/

- But in this emergency situation you may find Rufus fast and easy (only one ISO per USB Flash - at bottom of page lists "Hiren's Boot CD" as supported)
https://rufus.akeo.ie/

Then insert this USB Flash and boot the computer - you will need to know how to tell BIOS to boot from USB
- either by Hot-key to invoke BIOS boot menu or changing boot order in the BIOS


It is very handy to have emergency boot-up USB Flash drive
179) Questions and Answers : Windows : Why is my computing power/credit so low ? (Message 1819325)
Posted 24 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Links to "some people"?

1) Do you run 24/7 ?

2) I don't see any CPU tasks in your list (i.e. you use now for SETI@home only your GPU - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7985858

3) Most of "Top participants" run optimized applications.

This is 32 core CPU-only computer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7988722

... which is running optimized AVX CPU applications (which are maybe ~2x faster than stock)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7988722&offset=20&show_names=0&state=4&appid=
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5177332193


How to run "Lunatics" optimized applications - read/ask here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79704

Note:
"Lunatics" is the group of programmers who write the apps.
Their GPU apps are already accepted as stock, i.e. applications you get automatically from SETI@home server and run now on your GPU:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5173625375

But Lunatics CPU applications are much faster than the stock CPU app
The "Lunatics installer" makes it relatively easy (compared to pure manual "install") to use them.
(all (~15) the CPU + GPU apps are inside the installer)
180) Message boards : Number crunching : Open Beta test: SoG for NVidia, Lunatics v0.45 - Beta6 (RC again) (Message 1817864)
Posted 17 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
SIV only partly installed. It looks like Windows Vista does not recognize its method of driver signatures, and refuses to install its drivers.

SIV itself don't need installation, only unpak .zip and run one of the .exe
But it "installs" driver on first run of new version.
(Right-Click on [Help] -> [Remove SIV] to see what/where it changes)


"Version 5.00 released on 14-May-2015
Migrated from the SHA-1 to SHA-2 code signing. This has no real impact on most systems, but to use SIV V5 on W7 you need KB3033929 installed and on Vista x64 to disable Driver Signature Verification.
"
You can try Version 4.53
http://rh-software.com/index_arc.html
http://rh-software.com/downloads/zip/siv_v4.53.zip

(I'm still on SIV 4.30 as my Hardware/OS are old and because there was/is a bug with -TRAY switch in a few of the next versions I tried some 2 years ago

The -TRAY switch was implemented by the author of SIV (Ray Hinchliffe) by my request (~4 years ago):
-TRAY : Start SIV minimized in the Icon Tray and make Close, [ OK ], <Esc>, etc.. minimize (instead of exit).
)

I start SIV by this shortcut:
H:\Programs.Vis\Tools\Info\Siv\SIV32X.exe -Tray -INDENT -GPUCTL


It still produces a flood of information, which makes it hard to find the relevant parts.

The info you need is in the middle of the main window where it say "PSU"
Click the "blob" next/left to it to open [Sensors] or [H/W Status] (depending on SIV version)
Right-Click the "blob" to change its color
 
181) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI applications for NVIDIA GPU improvement - how you can help (Message 1817852)
Posted 17 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
But even though I set up specs for location "Work" to do only CPU tasks and changed that rig to location "Work", for some reason it continued to send me GPU tasks for the first couple of updates.

Yes, there are some web settings that 'don't take' if the local BOINC don't know about them.

To avoid confusion in the future:
- set [No New Tasks]
- change web Settings
- click [Update] (usually one update is enough but you may try two if you wish)
- set [Allow New Tasks]
182) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI applications for NVIDIA GPU improvement - how you can help (Message 1817740)
Posted 17 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
"host #7972413" is the number here.
What it is on S@H-Beta?
Because no other projects are shown still for you here to click on them:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=9780569

EDIT:
OK, you posted the S@H-Beta hostid=80139 while I was writing this post:
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=80139


    I can't see a tasks or computers button to check the results for task AR so I am in the dark there

If you can see the stderr.txt you can see the AR

1) For reported tasks:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5156999889
Lines:
ar=3.056596
WU true angle range is : 3.056596

2) For running tasks:
(the same lines as above) look in {BOINC-Data}\slots\ for stderr.txt

3) For not started tasks:
look in the WU file:
<true_angle_range>0.012198483347679</true_angle_range>


P.S.
You don't need to abort tasks here to run S@H-Beta
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7972413&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=

You may put a project on "pause" by [Suspend] button on Projects tab:
BOINC Manager Advanced view
183) Message boards : Number crunching : Open Beta test: SoG for NVidia, Lunatics v0.45 - Beta6 (RC again) (Message 1817730)
Posted 17 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
15-Sep-2016 23:59:13 [SETI@home] Starting task blc4_2bit_guppi_57449_43932_HIP78775_0013.24448.0.18.27.37.vlar_0
15-Sep-2016 23:59:21 [SETI@home] task postponed 30.000000 sec:
15-Sep-2016 23:59:21 [SETI@home] task postponed 30.000000 sec:
15-Sep-2016 23:59:21 [SETI@home] Task postponed: CL file build failure
16-Sep-2016 01:28:50 [SETI@home] Computation for task blc4_2bit_guppi_57449_43932_HIP78775_0013.24448.0.18.27.37.vlar_0 finished
16-Sep-2016 01:28:52 [SETI@home] Started upload of blc4_2bit_guppi_57449_43932_HIP78775_0013.24448.0.18.27.37.vlar_0_0
16-Sep-2016 01:28:55 [SETI@home] Finished upload of blc4_2bit_guppi_57449_43932_HIP78775_0013.24448.0.18.27.37.vlar_0_0

It is a Pity the new/current BOINC versions don't show "Restarting task ..." by default.

Which log flag have to be enabled for "Restarting task ..." to appear in Event Log (without too much other clutter)?

I also wonder why BOINC say two times in the same second "task postponed 30.000000 sec: " - is this for one or 2 tasks?
And the string ends with "sec: " (yes, space after :) which suggests something is missing (maybe task name) and will be shown by some log flag.
 
184) Message boards : Number crunching : Open Beta test: SoG for NVidia, Lunatics v0.45 - Beta6 (RC again) (Message 1817598)
Posted 16 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
OpenCL-kernels filename : MultiBeam_Kernels_r3500.cl
CL file build log on device GeForce GTX 750 Ti

INFO: can't build program from binary kernels, code 0 , recompiling from source...
Error : Building Program (binary, clBuildProgram):main kernels: not OK code -6
CL file build log on device GeForce GTX 750 Ti
185) Message boards : Number crunching : Open Beta test: SoG for NVidia, Lunatics v0.45 - Beta6 (RC again) (Message 1817593)
Posted 16 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Can't copy/paste what isn't there, as there is no indication what task was involved.

You can search your stdoutdae.txt and stdoutdae.old for:
CL file build failure

This will find the lines you already posted:
09/15/2016 23:59:21 | SETI@home | task postponed 30.000000 sec:
09/15/2016 23:59:21 | SETI@home | task postponed 30.000000 sec:
09/15/2016 23:59:21 | SETI@home | Task postponed: CL file build failure

Maybe a few lines above is the "[SETI@home] Starting task ..."
186) Message boards : Number crunching : Help with settings (Message 1817578)
Posted 16 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8094919

Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5200 @ 2.50GHz
Number of processors 2
Coprocessors ---

So you should see only 2 CPU tasks "Running" and no GPU tasks
It is not clear what you mean by "Out of the 8 programs only 4 are showing up in the tasks"
187) Message boards : Number crunching : Open Beta test: SoG for NVidia, Lunatics v0.45 - Beta6 (RC again) (Message 1817576)
Posted 16 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
but when it showed up last night, I decided to report it

Next time record (Copy/Paste) also the task name so we can search for it and look at stderr


What is r3528

The same "thing" as r3500 but newer
188) Message boards : Number crunching : Open Beta test: SoG for NVidia, Lunatics v0.45 - Beta6 (RC again) (Message 1817415)
Posted 15 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I still don't have a reasonable way to look for changes or ripple on the 12v line.

Changes (idle <-> loaded system) should be visible in SIV
http://rh-software.com/

For Ripple I think Oscilloscope is needed:
"Measurements for Ripple Voltage were obtained using a 100 MHz Tektronix TDS224 Digital Storage Oscilloscope"
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/VX_450W/3.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/VX_450W/4.html
189) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Postponed: CL file build failure with BOINC 7.6.31 / Ubuntu 16.04 / AMD GPU (Message 1816638)
Posted 12 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Applications devs and people using Linux (and I'm not Linux user) usually don't check posts here, they read Number Crunching

Files like MultiBeam_Kernels_r3430.cl (which are text files in OpenCL language) have to be compiled to binary form.
That compilation is done by the ATI AMD OpenCL driver.
Obviously that "mesa-opencl-icd" (which I don't know what it is) can't do this, at least in a way as expected by the app.

I don't know what means "got rid of the AMD Catalyst fglrx drivers", can't you get drivers manually from ATI AMD site?

(I really can't help you more than this for Linux issues, post in Number Crunching)
190) Message boards : Number crunching : Computer ID problem (Message 1816475)
Posted 11 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The system is updating graphics drivers automatically, which is different from my other system. How do you stop this from happening?

I don't use Windows 10 but think these two programs have such settings (among many others)

W10Privacy
http://www.winprivacy.de/english-home/

O&O ShutUp10
https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
191) Message boards : Number crunching : Computer ID problem (Message 1816469)
Posted 11 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I seemed to have created a problem... My original system now has over 600 abandoned tasks.

"Old" computer?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7953787

"New" computer?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8091204

When 2 computers have the same ID the server see this as "cheating" and marks the tasks as "Abandoned"

The computer ID is only saved in client_state.xml

E.g. in mine client_state.xml there is <hostid>4832843</hostid> for:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4832843

I did a search in all .xml files in my BOINC Data directory for 4832843
(sched_request_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml also have <hostid>4832843</hostid> line but is not important, BOINC do not read it)

You can search for 7953787 and 8091204 in your client_state.xml files (or in all .xml files in BOINC Data directory).
192) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home v8.12 Windows GPU applications support thread (Message 1816355)
Posted 11 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It seems the app looks at the mb file at startup. It seems the app doesn't look at it for a suspend/resume cycle.

On every start of the app .exe the app reads the cmdline file, no matter if it is a new task (0% Progress) or restarting work on 'old' task.

If you are not sure which mb_cmdline file to use - put the same line with switches in all of them.
Maybe with small difference, e.g. -period_iterations_num 2500 in one and -period_iterations_num 3000 in another - to see which one will be used.
You will see in stderr.txt:
Single buffer allocation size: 192MB
period_iterations_num=3000

Some people report that you need to put Space in the begin and end of the line with switches like: " -period_iterations_num 500 -sbs 192 "


"Suspend/resume cycle" is easy done by Check/Uncheck "Snooze GPU" from BOINC Manager icon Right-Click
Wait a few seconds after "Snooze GPU" (or check in Windows Task Manager, Process Explorer, ...) for app to really exit.


S@H has slot 1

Every new started task will use different slot # - the first which is free.
193) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows 10 Can't connect to BOINC client (Message 1816351)
Posted 11 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Norton firewall should have some log for what and when was blocked.

I don't know what your problem is:
- BOINC Manager can't communicate with BOINC client on localhost (internal in-the-computer communication, do not need LAN or Internet)
(BOINC Manager don't contact Internet, it may contact LAN only if user tells it to connect/control other BOINC client running on another computer on the LAN)
- BOINC client can't communicate to servers on Internet

BOINC Manager = boincmgr.exe
BOINC client = boinc.exe

Did you reboot the computer recently?
194) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Returning contributor needs help recovering stats (Message 1815950)
Posted 9 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have had to throttle my late 2015 iMac27 at 25% to keep the heat down.

Computing preferences
The better option for this is "Use at most 25% of the CPUs"

The other option "Use at most 25% of CPU time" will make the CPU load "bounce" as the tooltip say:
"Suspend/resume computing every few seconds to reduce CPU temperature and energy usage. Example: 75% means compute for 3 seconds, wait for 1 second, and repeat."
195) Message boards : Number crunching : Linux boinc version 7.6.31 can't run optimized applications (Message 1815917)
Posted 9 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
not sure why the multibeam code has two sets of <app_version> tags.

It is OK, on Windows we use maybe ~10 "sets" (for the GPU apps)

They differ only by <version_num>804</version_num>
To preserve already Downloaded tasks marked 8.04 and 8.05

But the numbers seem wrong for that (to preserve), look:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

Maybe 804 was for SETI@home Beta site, you may change it to <version_num>800</version_num>
("Linux/x86_64 8.00")


2) The 2 app_info.xml files look OK but you can't have 2 app_info.xml
You should merge them (e.g. if you put only the first app_info.xml for astropulse_v7 - NO setiathome_v8 work will be Downloaded)

Just "cat" the 2 files (I don't use Linux but think "cat" = merge)
Then in the resulting text delete in the middle the 2 lines:
</app_info>
<app_info>


P.S.
The errors are "execv: Permission denied" so be sure to chmod +x the executables:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8089610&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5145347844
196) Message boards : Number crunching : Open Beta test: SoG for NVidia, Lunatics v0.45 - Beta6 (RC again) (Message 1815911)
Posted 9 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Or just disable CPU fan control entirely and let the CPU fan run flat out all the time.

Sometimes the fan itself has a sensor (internal to the fan) which can't be controlled.

I always had in BIOS disabled "Quiet Fan" setting.
But on the same computer/motherboard when I changed the CPU the new fan "acts" on temperature.

Both bellow are "box" CPUs with stock AMD heatsink/fan (both fans 4-pin):
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ - fan had always spinning @ ~3500 RPM
AMD Athlon II X3 455 - fan changes speed 3000-5400 RPM depending how hot it feels itself

But yes, disabling CPU fan control in BIOS will give the max possible RPM

Of course there are also options to lower the load on CPU to cool it:
- run less tasks on CPU
- use TThrottle
197) Message boards : Number crunching : Adding Past Credit to Current Account (Message 1815734)
Posted 8 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I did find a 'merge' that had the credits listed from an older computer.
clicked the button, now waiting to see if those credits are added.
...
Don't know long it takes for the credits to xfer.

You probably see "Merge duplicate records of this computer" or "Merge computers by name"
This only combines 2 "computers" into one (if possible) - the resulting 1 computer stay on the same account, the account credits are not changed.

It is NOT possible "for the credits to xfer" to other account.

The only way to get back and use this old account is to log in it:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=8226890

The last post from it is soon enough (29 Nov 2010)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_user_posts.php?userid=8226890
... so you should:
- remember the password
- have browser which remember the password
- have BOINC installation on old computer to find <authenticator>
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?sort=rpc_time&rev=0&show_all=1&userid=8226890

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/get_passwd.php
 
198) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC assigns device X - Problem (Message 1815720)
Posted 8 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Also the algorithm should work on CPU with odd # of cores (like mine AMD Athlon II X3 455)

And currently correct work not guarantied for such devices.
I do separate checks for 2, 4, 8 and 16 cores only.
Your device will have 11 affinity mask perhaps, that is, it misses 100 check (for 4 cores) and passes duo test (10).

Please try to launch different numbers of app's instances (-total_GPU_instances_num N is mandatory for this test currently) and post what CPU# will be used for what config.

In 5 identical directories I put:
MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r3500.exe
MultiBeam_Kernels_r3500.cl
libfftw3f-3-3-4_x86.dll

r3500_AMDAthlontmIIX3455Processor_x86.wisdom
*.bin*

work_unit.sah (= PG1327_v7.wu)
mb_cmdline.txt


Before every round of tests I do:
Del /S result.sah state.sah boinc_*.

Start the .exe files manually in ~30 seconds intervals.
Monitoring in Process Lasso (I select/mark already running to easy see the next app started)
I also see in SIV the initial CPU load (for ~20 s) on the allocated CPU core or all cores if app failed to choose a core.


AMD Athlon(tm) II X3 455 Processor [Family 16 Model 5 Stepping 3]
Number of processors 3
AMD ATI Radeon HD 6570 (NI TURKS) {ASUS EAH6570/DI/1GD3(LP)} (1024MB) driver: 1.4.1646
Windows XP
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4832843


First results:
A) Not possible for me to run >3 tasks on "default": vRAM 1 GB, and also too much lag:
(Empty mb_cmdline.txt)
0 1 2 (first started app use CPU0, second - CPU1, ...)

Kill test (-: kill process by Process Lasso,  +: start new app):
-0 -1 = 2
+     = 0 2
-2    = 0
+     = 0 1

_________________________


B) To reduce vRAM usage & lag and allow for 5 apps:
 -period_iterations_num 500 -sbs 8 
(I see -sbs 8 act the same as -sbs 32)

("0-2": "All cores" as shown by Process Lasso, no "CPU-pin")

0 1 2 0-2 0

Kill 0-2 = 0 1 2 0 
+        = 0 1 2 0 0-2


0 slot of 64 used for this instance; total_GPU_instances_num=64
Info: CPU affinity mask used: 1; system mask is 7

1 slot of 64 used for this instance; total_GPU_instances_num=64
Info: CPU affinity mask used: 2; system mask is 7

2 slot of 64 used for this instance; total_GPU_instances_num=64
Info: CPU affinity mask used: 4; system mask is 7

3 slot of 64 used for this instance; total_GPU_instances_num=64
Info: CPU affinity mask used: 0; system mask is 7

4 slot of 64 used for this instance; total_GPU_instances_num=64
Info: CPU affinity mask used: 1; system mask is 7


Now, which N do you want to see for -total_GPU_instances_num N
? Maybe 2, 3, 4, 5
 
199) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Returning contributor needs help recovering stats (Message 1815681)
Posted 8 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So that tells me your old account was never a BOINC-SETI account, but a SETI Classic account

He have 2 old accounts - one SETI Classic 2002 and one BOINC-SETI 2006 (and current account created ~10 days ago which was 2016 and now 2002)

This was clarified in this my post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=80209&postid=1815148#1815148

The question was which of his BOINC-SETI accounts (2006 or 2016) to connect with the oldest SETI Classic 2002
He was trying to remember the password for the BOINC-SETI 2006 account.
Since he fast get more credit on the newest 2016 account than had on 2006 account this doubt was easily resolved.
200) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Returning contributor needs help recovering stats (Message 1815431)
Posted 6 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It is not possible to connect/merge User ID 8411114 with your current User ID 10365107 because both are BOINC accounts.
In any case you have to choose one of them and abandon (not use) the other.

Okay, let me see if I understand this last point. If I finally remember my password for the Rosetta@home project where I have stats associated with my old BOINC account, if I earn a few more credits on my new computer, then change the Hawaii email address on that project to my current CFL email address and then accumulate more new credits for Rosetta on the same computer, it won't link Rosetta to my current BOINC account where I have been earning current SETI credits?

Very good explanation :)
If you do all that - "it" will "link" the old Rosetta account to your current SETI@home account (meaning: in "Your account" here you will see at bottom (after a few days) the old Rosetta account)
Also it will sum in your "BOINC combined" credit:
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/4258798/projectList


"It is not possible to connect/merge User ID 8411114 with your current User ID 10365107" means: not possible to merge 2 accounts on the same project
(people usually ask this because they want somehow to add the credits from 2 accounts on the same project but it is not possible)
The SETI@home classic is exception and is not really "merge", only transfer of date and separate list of "SETI@home classic workunits".


I could have sworn that I read in some post about having a common computer with multiple projects and/or emails will do some kind of linking.

Yes, if you use the same email on all projects.
That is why I say: "You obviously used the same email for all these projects"

The email is used in a hash formula (MD5 ?) to create your "BOINC Cross Project IDentifier" (which is not secret, i.e. is not password)
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/4258798/overview

The same email on another project will generate the same CPID so will "link" your accounts from those projects:
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/0/user/detail/10365107
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/152/user/detail/139239
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/49/user/detail/1442614
201) Message boards : Number crunching : Average Credit Decreasing? (Message 1815403)
Posted 6 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
well, v8.12 doesn't work on "low budget GPUs" still!

I don't understand "still" (?)
Do you expect that somehow the app will change (in code) but still be marked with version 8.12 ??

If/when they (at lab) decide to change the app they are forced to change the version #, else BOINC will not Download the new app.
So only of you see something like 8.13+ it may be changed app (but not necessarily - sometimes they post new version to fix other things (e.g. distribution to "proper" hosts), not the code)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

I think the code to fix "low budget GPUs" issues is already present in the current builds (r3500+) but Raistmer have to tell if Yes or No.

You can test by running "Lunatics v0.45 - Beta4" installer and selecting "SoG"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79704&sort_style=6&start=0

Or wait (a few months?) for Eric to post some new version - which (the executable) will be the same or newer than what is in the above installer (r3500) but written by the same programmer (Raistmer)

As you can see what you run now (and call "v8.12") is:
"OpenCL version by Raistmer, r3430"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5117339310
202) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC assigns device X - Problem (Message 1815394)
Posted 6 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Nope, random will result in randon hangs on ATi hosts under CPU load

By "random" I mean - when all the "cores" are already used (i.e. 5th app starts when 4 already run on a 4 "core" CPU) - set affinity to "random"/any core.


And as I understand (please correct if wrong) Hyperthreaded CPUs grouped in adjacement ID numbers, that is, 0+1 - first real core, 2+3 - second real core and so on.

I think the same (yes). Applies also to AMD Modules in Bulldozer+
And even if the CPU have in fact real cores - this will probably "distribute" temperature/heating over different (non-adjacent) parts of the chip.


If so, scheme I wrote before (first fill all even, then all odd, then repeat) will provide most even distrubution amongst CPU device.

But apps end in not-predictable moments (e.g. some tasks end in 10-30 seconds (overflow)) and another app starts.
Maybe (for test) make some simulation - feed the algorithm with random times (ending/starting apps) to see how it "distributes" over time (on different # of cores and different # of apps - e.g. 5, 6, 7 apps over 8 cores)

Also the algorithm should work on CPU with odd # of cores (like mine AMD Athlon II X3 455)
203) Message boards : Number crunching : Average Credit Decreasing? (Message 1815338)
Posted 6 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
dev builds:
- are first distributed as "alpha" between limited number of testers (I'm not one of them)
- then released for general (but Advanced) public as "standalone packages" (one app in .7z for manual "install") for beta test by everybody who feels as "Advanced user"
- then included in Lunatics installer and given to Eric Korpela to test on "SETI@home beta" site

Only after that they are "promoted" as Stock (distributed automatically here)

"Stock" you are running are the same "Lunatics apps" only a few months older.
204) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC assigns device X - Problem (Message 1815329)
Posted 6 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
fill even CPUs then switch to odd ones then switch to even again

If the current instance knows mask of already running like (for 8 "cores"):
10001001 -> 10 00 10 01
00110100 -> 00 11 01 00
10100010 -> 10 10 00 10

- group like above by 2 bits [ maybe by (mask & (3 << groupN*2)) ]

Select first group which is 00
Else select first group which is 01 or 10
Else all groups are 11 - select random?
205) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC assigns device X - Problem (Message 1815154)
Posted 5 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Well, for particular task of managing CPU affinity I would need to know number of SETI OpenCL GPU tasks running on particular host.

I think your apps already "talk" to each other (?) (which can be used to count them)
Else how one instance knows which CPUs are currently "in use" (per CPU affinity mask of other running) to select the "next free" CPU for own CPU affinity mask?
206) Message boards : Number crunching : Average Credit Decreasing? (Message 1815152)
Posted 5 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
BTW, SoG & sah WUs still DON'T WORK on low end graphic cards, like GT 520!

There are no "SoG & sah WUs", there are SoG & sah applications.
So which versions of SoG & sah applications do you run? Stock??

The current dev builds are at r3500+ so the apps are always on "drawing board".
Did you test anything newer than stock?
207) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC client isn't downloading new S@H workunits on S6 Android (Message 1815150)
Posted 5 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have 7.4.53

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79858&postid=1801935#1801935
208) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Returning contributor needs help recovering stats (Message 1815148)
Posted 5 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This is what I have for the classic Comcast hours from 2002:

User ID 1208361
SETI@home member since 6 Jun 2002
SETI@home classic workunits 51
SETI@home classic CPU time 2,554 hours

This looks like classic account never used for BOINC ("Total credit 0" and no computers ever in BOINC list)
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=1208361
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?sort=rpc_time&rev=0&show_all=1&userid=1208361


This is what I have for Hawaii from 2006:

User ID 8411114
SETI@home member since 20 May 2006
Total credit 45,494
(I wonder if this includes previously merged classic credit.)

This is BOINC account never connected to classic ("member since 20 May 2006" - classic didn't existed in 2006, and no mention of "SETI@home classic workunits" # - and no, that # is never converted to credit)
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=8411114

If "User ID 8411114" was "already connected" to "User ID 1208361":
- Both 8411114 and 1208361 will have date 6 Jun 2002
- the list of "SETI@home classic workunits" will be removed from 1208361 and added to 8411114

So it is not possible that "User ID 8411114" is "already connected" to "User ID 1208361"


Try again:
You have to be logged in your current account (User ID 10365107) while clicking the link:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php

Paste the email used for User ID 1208361

If this works - it can't be reversed! (i.e. you can't "unmerge" and try again from (while logged in) User ID 8411114)

If there is error message - Copy/Paste it here (removing/changing the exact email for the post)
(the error message can't say anything like "Hawaii account")


... hoping I can remember that old Hawaii password

I hope you already understand:
that "password" you need is the password for User ID 8411114, not the password for the email site (SETI@home server don't check if the email box/account exists)

Can you find/resurrect some of these old computers?:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?sort=rpc_time&rev=0&show_all=1&userid=8411114


...
Rosetta@home 41,392 0 19 May 2006
LHC@home 3,851 0 20 May 2006
Einstein@Home 84,103 0 11 Feb 2005
...

Every project have its own server and its own accounts.
You obviously used the same email for all these projects (the same as email used for SETI@home User ID 8411114) but the passwords for every project may be different.

It is not possible to connect/merge User ID 8411114 with your current User ID 10365107 because both are BOINC accounts.
In any case you have to choose one of them and abandon (not use) the other.
209) Message boards : Number crunching : The Saga Begins (LotsaCores 2.0) (Message 1815006)
Posted 4 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
put it before the -high_perf -high_perc_timer

-high_prec_timer : Windows-only. Attempts to improve Windows multimedia timer resolution. May result in smaller Sleep quantum.
In turn this would allow finer-grain sleep with less performance degradation (if any) with -use_sleep option.

(I always wonder why people type cmdline switches instead of Copy/Paste from ReadMe ...)


Unfortunately the app don't tell e.g. "Unrecognised switch ignored: -high_perc_timer"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5136314645


You can also search/scan/find in the .exe itself if some switch is present.
This is direct Copy/Paste from inside of MB8_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_SoG_r3500.exe (as seen by F3 View in Total Commander):

-v Verbose level set to:%d
-v N incorrect option use:argument needed
-hp -HP -rtp -RTP -high_prec_timer System timer will be set in high resolution mode
-cpu_lock -CPU_lock CPU affinity adjustment enabled
-no_cpu_lock CPU affinity adjustment disabled
-cpu_lock_fixed_cpu -CPU_lock_fixed_CPU CPU affinity adjustment enabled, fixed CPU %d will be used
-persistent_threads


You can see e.g. that some switches are accepted in several forms (different CASE) like -cpu_lock -CPU_lock but other are not (-no_cpu_lock)
 
210) Message boards : Number crunching : odd performance issues with two i7 4770K CPU's (Message 1814984)
Posted 4 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
thanks guys, this page http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Computation_credit gives a description but I don't understand what it is meant by:

Recent average credit: The average number of Cobblestones per day granted recently. This average decreases by a factor of two every week.

especially the last sentence...

You can see the formula here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20120418125739/http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Recent_Average_Credit

P.S.
I found that link (by Google) in this post by Richard Haselgrove:
https://einsteinathome.org/content/how-do-we-calculate-rac-dummies#comment-133361
211) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home v8.12 Windows GPU applications support thread (Message 1814980)
Posted 4 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
the GPU temperature is still 72°C

TThrottle will let you limit the GPU temperature (by automatically making small (ms) pauses in the app computing threads if temperature reaches the limit set by you)
212) Message boards : News : Breakthrough Listen observations of HD 164595 (Message 1814964)
Posted 4 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Very "dumbed-down" version:
Conclusions:
"(this Transient Signal from the RATAN-600 Telescope) is likely due to instrumental interference or to some other artifact of human technology."
"our GBT observations did not detect ongoing emission from the direction of HD164595"
"We intend to reobserve HD164595"
213) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Returning contributor needs help recovering stats (Message 1814958)
Posted 4 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Your current account (userid=10365107) is gaining Credit very fast, in a few days it will have more credits than your older SETI@home/BOINC account (userid=8411114)

So the only thing needed to merge the oldest SETI@home Classic account to your current account is to click:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php

... and paste your oldest email (@comcast) (you can just try any of your oldest emails if you are not sure which one was used)

This will give you:
- You original "Joined" date
- List of # and CPU time of SETI@home classic workunits in your account


Like in this account (rob smith):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=226846

SETI@home member since 7 Mar 2003 (BOINC was introduced in 2005)
SETI@home classic workunits 4,653
SETI@home classic CPU time 30,622 hours

(This will not work if somebody already stolen your SETI@home Classic account since you posted the email in the forum
In this case there will be message similar to:
"Some other SETI@home/BOINC account is already connected to the Classic account"
)
214) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Returning contributor needs help recovering stats (Message 1814361)
Posted 1 Sep 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Why you revealed your email addresses in Open forum?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69103#1273877


It doesn't matter at all if you "can't access anymore" your old email address, nor if that email existed at all.
(e.g. I have secondary "fake" test account with email address of the form 12345@777.999 and it is accepted by this site as login)

The only thing that matters is: was the old account here "SETI@home Classic" account or was it used for BOINC?

If the old account is "SETI@home Classic" - go to this link and just paste your old email address
(this will merge it to your current account - make sure you are logged in your current account while clicking the link):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php

(You don't need any password for this to work)

But - Read the text at bottom after:
This will not work if:
...


If the old SETI@home account is BOINC account you can:
- remember/try passwords for the old SETI@home BOINC account (and use "your old email" string + the remembered SETI@home password (no need for email password))
- find your old computer/HDD which had BOINC installation - there is file in it account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml which have <authenticator> inside.

"Log in with authenticator":
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu//get_passwd.php


P.S.
I only now noticed you give some links but since they are not clickable I didn't see them:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=8411114

This is BOINC account (so first method for "SETI@home Classic" will not work for it)
Find one of the old computers (to retrieve <authenticator>):
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?sort=rpc_time&rev=0&show_all=1&userid=8411114

... or remember/try passwords for the old SETI@home BOINC account.


P.P.S.
It seems from your old posts that you have even older email
So:
- first try to recover your older (userid=8411114) SETI@home BOINC account (by above means)
- then, while you are logged in that older SETI@home BOINC account (which have more credits), visit the link for "SETI@home Classic" and paste your oldest email (@comcast)
 
215) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home v8.12 Windows GPU applications support thread (Message 1813158)
Posted 28 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Where have you found tasks run on a different GTX 560 ...

GTX 560 Ti was notorious to produce false signals (wrong computations) because of too high clock and/or too low voltage (as set by default in the video card factory).
I don't know if that is the same/similar for GTX 560

Your GPU seems to run at "Max clock frequency: 1660Mhz" (this is "shader/CUDA Cores" clock):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5104724560

... which looks within spec:
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-560/specifications
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-560ti/specifications

But nevertheless you can try (for test) to (temporarily) Underclock the GPU and video memory and/or raise the voltage a little to see if that eliminates/decreases # of "Validation inconclusive"/"Invalid".

e.g. by MSI Afterburner
https://gaming.msi.com/features/afterburner
https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/afterburner-download-msi.html
http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/msi_afterburner.html
216) Message boards : Number crunching : 1080 underclocking (Message 1812902)
Posted 27 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
<cmdline>insert commandline here</cmdline>

Do you think he will really see this?
217) Message boards : Number crunching : 1080 underclocking (Message 1812901)
Posted 27 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I've got a 64bit OS, yet the file name I use is different to the one Al is using.

I don't think he "is using" - he only asked if he should use "_x64" (as in "should I create ...?" - and the answer is No)

The file in Lunatics_Win64_v0.45_Beta4-for-SoG_setup.exe (as you can see by 7-Zip) is:
mb_cmdline_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_SoG.txt

Named by _x64 are only the CPU files like:
mb_cmdline_win_x64_AVX_VS2010.txt
218) Message boards : Number crunching : Thought(s) on changing S@h limit of: 100tasks/mobo ...to a: ##/CPUcore (Message 1812896)
Posted 27 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
There are at least 3 ('Advanced') methods I know to overcome the 100+100 tasks limits.
Someone dare to list them? ;)
219) Message boards : Number crunching : 1080 underclocking (Message 1812892)
Posted 27 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The other option (which sounds like a good idea to me) ... that made use of the app_config.xml file to give the command line settings- having the big advantage that re-running the Lunatics installer won't remove any modifications or references there you've made yourself.

Lunatics installer don't touch any existing .txt file.
It do not delete them nor overwrite them.
Only if the .txt file do not exist - it puts/extracts the zero-length empty .txt file.
220) Questions and Answers : Web site : Screensaver Missing (Message 1812661)
Posted 26 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'd noticed that when SETI@HOME work units were running, if I clicked on "GRAPHICS", that the B.O.I.N.C. program would indicate there were no graphics for the SETI@HOME work units.

"... if I clicked on "GRAPHICS" ...":
You just can't click [Show graphics] button - it will be grey for GPU applications here at SETI@home
How "the BOINC program" indicated to you that "there were no graphics"?

! Graphics don't come with "work units", it comes with applications.
The exactly same WU - if done by CPU SETI@home stock application - will Show graphics!

Look:
BOINC Manager Advanced view
"Show graphics: Open a window showing application graphics. (Only available if that application has graphics, and when the Status of the selected task is 'running'.)
"

Thank you for taking the time to explain this to me.[/color]

The same (with different words of course) was explained to you in the first Reply here by Ageless:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=80159&postid=1811501#1811501
221) Questions and Answers : Web site : Screensaver Missing (Message 1812659)
Posted 26 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
And although now all show SETI@home v8 v8.12 (opencl_intel_gpu_sah) windows_intelx86, I'm sure that when BilBg checked earlier this week, that one of them showed it had run on the CPU.

:) Not really, all tasks at that time (23 Aug 2016, 6:02:49 UTC) were opencl_intel_gpu_sah

I looked at:
"Number of tasks completed 1"
"Consecutive valid tasks 1"

See the second link in this post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=80159&postid=1811739#1811739

(yes, we know that the "Number of tasks completed 1" don't count overflows and similar but in this case is good enough to show that "very few" SETI@home tasks were done by CPU app)
222) Questions and Answers : Web site : Screensaver Missing (Message 1812057)
Posted 24 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It's strange then that only one SETI@home CPU task was done since you added that computer (4 Jul 2016)

You may try to temporarily (e.g. for 1 h) Suspend the other projects and possibly some SETI@home CPU tasks will be Downloaded.

On 'Projects tab' - select some project (e.g. Einstein@Home) and click [Suspend] button at left:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Advanced_view#The_Projects_tab
223) Questions and Answers : Web site : Screensaver Missing (Message 1811739)
Posted 23 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
He didn't explain how to get CPU tasks because it was you who stopped them (they are ON by default)
So if you stopped them from being Downloaded you know how to get CPU tasks again.

At some point in time you unchecked "Use CPU" here:
SETI@home preferences

You did only 1 task by the current CPU application "SETI@home v8 8.00 windows_intelx86":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=8038207


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPU
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPU
224) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1810950)
Posted 21 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
Just out of curiosity:

I searched my client_state.xml (279 698 bytes) to estimate the probability of the two bugs combined to hang the (now old v0.5) program:
find /c "ap" client_state.xml - gives count 321
find /c "ap_" client_state.xml - gives count 10

If randomly "poking" in client_state.xml
321 / 279698 = 0.0011 = 0.11 % to find "ap" and hang (1 per 1000 runs) - "ap" is found in many words inside client_state.xml : apic swap app api
(Yes, it was not supposed to poke client_state.xml for the short "ap" string)

10 / 279698 = 0.000036 = 0.0036 % to find "ap_" - if using ap_ : ~30 times less chance for the bug to show itself (would have been 1 per 30000 runs)
 
225) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1810917)
Posted 21 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
run 0.5 ...with no issues

As I read the code - there are at least 2 bugs:
- the AstroPulse will not be identified (because "ap" is searched in wrong place/file) = previous bug is not fixed
- may enter infinite loop (hang) if the string "ap" is found (despite searched in a wrong place)
226) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1810913)
Posted 21 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I just noticed this program can't be used for BOINC 6.x

This is from my sched_request_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml on BOINC 6.10.58
    <other_result>
        <name>07my10aa.24998.22181.15.42.119_1</name>
        <plan_class>opencl_ati5_sah</plan_class>
    </other_result>
    <other_result>
        <name>14mr09ac.1350.7434.13.40.186_2</name>
        <plan_class>opencl_ati5_sah</plan_class>
    </other_result>
</other_results> 


As you can see there is no </app_version> here so on BOINC 6.x these lines will not find tasks:

currentposition = sched_request.find("</app_version>\n </other_result>", currentposition); // No <plan_class> between these two lines indicates a CPU workunit

currentposition = sched_request.find("</app_version>\n <plan_class>"); // Now do the same as the block above but for app_versionGPU


! Also the second line misses to start at currentposition (infinite loop if "ap" is found), should be:
currentposition = sched_request.find("</app_version>\n <plan_class>", currentposition);


EDIT:
Some protection against infinite loops can be:

#define MAXLOOP 10000

currentposition = 0;
endloop = 0;
while (currentposition >= 0 && endloop < MAXLOOP) {
endloop++;
...
 
227) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1810908)
Posted 21 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
but I have to get the fix posted ASAP.

That part of code look strange to me:

tempposition = sched_request.rfind("<name>", currentposition) + 6; // Find backwards to eliminate picking up "<name>ap" which is an AstroPulse version number
if ( client_state.substr(tempposition, 2) != "ap" ) {


You find/set tempposition in sched_request and then check what is in that tempposition in client_state (?)
228) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1810897)
Posted 21 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Bonus: Added --b (Linux) and -b (Windows) command line switch to skip the warning that SETI Beta is present

Did you consider adding some code to search only from the start to end of SETI@home section (and not the entire client_state.xml):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79954&postid=1807421#1807421
229) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1810896)
Posted 21 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Good chance to try the new app out.

You can try it offline first (in new empty directory):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=80141&postid=1810871#1810871
230) Message boards : Number crunching : Run Cuda app only... again (Message 1810871)
Posted 21 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
[edit] oops, I forgot about Cuda60. I don't know if Mr Kevvy's script was tested for that app. Just backup your whole Boinc folder first...just in case. [/e]

Mr Kevvy's script looks for client_state.xml in the current directory.
So it can be tested with a copy of client_state.xml
Then the changed copy can be compared to the original client_state.xml

Put in empty directory:
- the "script"
- a copy of client_state.xml
- a copy of sched_request_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml (the "script" analyses that file too (maybe Mr Kevvy found that easier than analysing just client_state.xml) but changes only client_state.xml)

Run the "script" (from this temp directory)
Compare the changed copy with the original client_state.xml

P.S.
In fact the "script" is a compiled C++ code, not what I will call "script"
 
231) Message boards : Number crunching : Run Cuda app only... again (Message 1810405)
Posted 19 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
There is a little difference between OpenCL and CUDA GPU-time. I don't know if it is worth running OpenCL. I guessed no. Have you got any benchmark for GTX 750Ti?

OK, according to the graph Shaggie76 made - for GTX 750Ti there is not much difference
(graph is for one task/GPU, he analyses the host.gz from http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/stats/ and some web pages here but you may ask him for the details)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=80132
232) Message boards : Number crunching : Run Cuda app only... again (Message 1810400)
Posted 19 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This high CPU use from OpenCL started after some driver versions
I think for NVIDIA the last driver with low CPU usage was/is 266.58

On Windows XP for my older AMD ATI Radeon HD 6570 + Catalyst 11.12
the CPU time was low for any app in the past and is still very low with the current app (ATi_HD5_r3500)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?userid=8647488&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=

The new ATi_HD5_r3500 app have much less lag even on VLARs (and ~ the same speed for me as r3330)
(on default, no mb_cmdline - file is empty)
233) Message boards : Number crunching : Run Cuda app only... again (Message 1810389)
Posted 19 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
opencl_nvidia_SoG Vs. opencl_nvidia_sah Vs. cuda60
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5101496155
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5098523660
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5101749058

You may read the doc - there are many switches to tune OpenCL apps for: less CPU usage / less lag / higher performance:

From here:
https://cloud.mail.ru/public/LJ8s/c3WyRR8ip

get MB8_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_SoG_r3500.7z

Inside it read: ReadMe_MultiBeam_OpenCL.txt
234) Message boards : Number crunching : Run Cuda app only... again (Message 1810379)
Posted 19 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
2) I noticed Opencl applications use 100% CPU instead of respecting my project configuration file.

app_config.xml

Only BOINC reads that file.
So no application can "respect" it.

<cpu_usage> is used by BOINC only to decide to "free CPU cores" or not.
- if the Sum of <cpu_usage> for all the running GPU applications >= 1 and < 2 : BOINC will run one less CPU task

E.g.:
- if <cpu_usage>0.5</cpu_usage> and you run 4 GPU tasks - BOINC will free 2 CPU cores (will run two less CPU tasks)
- For 3 running GPU tasks <cpu_usage>0.33</cpu_usage> will not free any core (= is useless, is only cosmetic display in BOINC Manager)

The Sum is truncated: 0.99 == 0 ; 1.99 == 1 ; ...


I guess this behaviour leads to an inefficiency of CPU-only applications

Most people prefer to run less CPU tasks ("free CPU cores") to help the GPU app perform faster because the GPU can do more work than the cores you "lose".
 
235) Message boards : Number crunching : Open Beta test: SoG for NVidia, Lunatics v0.45 - Beta6 (RC again) (Message 1810357)
Posted 19 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
For me your images don't show, I changed your links:
(I used the same view yesterday, but sorted by date)

Some people have reported difficulty choosing the right download file from OneDrive.

This is the view I use:



Select it this way:



Hope that helps.
236) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1810097)
Posted 18 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
To check/compare your original and patched files with mine:
MD5:
a072664a7063bb1a231a2aae967cc427 *BOINC Rescheduler.exe
07bd6714b0817e6faf1941575e56e0b5 *BOINC Rescheduler v7.exe
cf29f5efe0eb427b37364a3432246762 *BOINC Rescheduler v8.exe

I didn't edit BOINC Rescheduler64 - I can't test it and don't really know why it exists (why there is need for 64-bit Rescheduler)
Is it impossible for a 32-bit program to access and edit client_state.xml on 64-bit Windows?
237) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1810090)
Posted 18 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
Until this is fixed:

boinc_rescheduler_2_7.zip still exists:
http://www.efmer.eu/download/boinc/scheduler/boinc_rescheduler_2_7.zip

How to patch for SETI@home v8:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77586&postid=1763581#1763581
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77586&postid=1763938#1763938

Tool to use:
HxD - Freeware Hex Editor
https://mh-nexus.de/en/hxd/

On this Downloads page:
https://mh-nexus.de/en/downloads.php?product=HxD

Find (Ctrl+F):
94e57a52e4d3eca6576bc15a99e884b6cdd5b03a

... to easy find links for "HxD, English - portable 1.7.7.0"
 
238) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1809962)
Posted 17 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Then how do you expect to Reschedule tasks GPU <--> CPU if you "have chosen to not run CPU work units"??
239) Message boards : Number crunching : Open Beta test: SoG for NVidia, Lunatics v0.45 - Beta6 (RC again) (Message 1809958)
Posted 17 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
And a further update to Beta4, to include r3500 where available - that's the SoG app for NVidia cards, and the ATi app for discrete GPUs (ATi_APU not updated this time).

I have a few questions.

I tested Lunatics_Win32_v0.45_Beta4-for-SoG_setup.exe with TestMode=1

I run it two times extracting files to:
TestFiles - Lunatics_Win32_v0.45_Beta4-for-SoG_setup - ATi_HD5_r3500
TestFiles - Lunatics_Win32_v0.45_Beta4-for-SoG_setup - NV_SoG_r3500


   1) In the case of ATi_HD5_r3500 there are 2 older files extracted but not used (not in MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5.aistub):
MultiBeam_Kernels_r3430.cl
MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r3430.exe

I wonder why they are still in the installer and why they are extracted?


   2) In both ATi_HD5_r3500 and NV_SoG_r3500 cases the same file is extracted:
MultiBeam_Kernels_r3500.cl - 197 438 bytes, date 29.07.2016

But looking in Lunatics_Win32_v0.45_Beta4-for-SoG_setup.exe by 7-Zip I see two files MultiBeam_Kernels_r3500.cl - the second is:
MultiBeam_Kernels_r3500.cl - 199 678 bytes, date 31.07.2016

I extracted the file by 7-Zip and there are some differences/additions to the newer file (I don't know if they are "ready to use" or are some tests).

Is the file dated 31.07.2016 used for any selection in the installer?


   3) In MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5.aistub I see this:
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_v8</app_name>
<version_num>812</version_num>
<api_version>7.5.0</api_version>

Is <api_version>7.5.0 compatible with BOINC 6.10.58
 
240) Message boards : Number crunching : Open Beta test: SoG for NVidia, Lunatics v0.45 - Beta6 (RC again) (Message 1809947)
Posted 17 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
They all have to wend to the Lunatics Page to get the ReadMe´s. Even when they know.

C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\oldApp_backup\docs

Are they there ?

You look at the old docs

Try to find ReadMe_MultiBeam_OpenCL_NV_SoG.txt in:
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\docs
241) Questions and Answers : Windows : Notice from server: Update Nvidia Driver, but not available (Message 1809525)
Posted 16 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Looking at plan_class_spec.xml on the "beta" site:
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/plan_class_spec.xml

for plan_class:
opencl_nvidia_sah
opencl_nvidia_SoG

there are these restrictions:
<min_nvidia_compcap>200</min_nvidia_compcap>
<min_driver_version>34700</min_driver_version>


So even if it was possible to use driver 347.00+ on older NVIDIA GPUs the other needed feature - Compute Capability 2.00+ - is in Hardware and can't be added by Software
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA#GPUs_supported


For CUDA there is no such restriction, e.g. for cuda32
<plan_class>
<name>cuda32</name>
<gpu_type>nvidia</gpu_type>
<cuda/>
<min_cuda_version>3020</min_cuda_version>
<min_driver_version>26306</min_driver_version>
<max_nvidia_compcap>300</max_nvidia_compcap>


And for cuda23 there is restriction on max_driver_version 341.61
<plan_class>
<name>cuda23</name>
<gpu_type>nvidia</gpu_type>
<cuda/>
<min_cuda_version>2030</min_cuda_version>
<min_driver_version>19038</min_driver_version>
<max_driver_version>34161</max_driver_version>
<max_nvidia_compcap>199</max_nvidia_compcap>


And you receive and complete OK cuda32 tasks (so you don't really have a problem):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7339351
 
242) Message boards : Number crunching : LotzaCores and a GTX 1080 FTW (Message 1809000)
Posted 14 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If you are using an app_config.xml, under the astropulse section find ...

He probably don't have AstroPulse section, maybe his app_config.xml is Copy/Paste from this post?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79700&postid=1793802#1793802
243) Questions and Answers : Windows : Back after 10 years - New BOINC - reboot problem (Message 1807643)
Posted 6 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
how can there be 2 cores free, given that

99% = all but one core on any machine with 190 cores or less.

:)
But my examples were to show that this "statement" is wrong
Not to support it ...

My "statement" is that 99% is good to free 1 core on 2-core to 100-core systems
(on > 100-core systems it will free more)
244) Questions and Answers : Windows : Back after 10 years - New BOINC - reboot problem (Message 1807563)
Posted 6 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Don't you mean this:

190 * 0.99 = 188.1 ~= 189 cores used == 1 core free
101 * 0.99 = 99.99 ~= 100 cores used == 1 core free
100 * 0.99 = 99 ~= 99 cores used == 1 core free

No
BOINC just truncates to integer so 99.99 becomes 99

On your computer with "Number of processors 8":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7830600

You will have:
8 * 0.99 = 7.92 ~= 7 cores used == 1 core free
 
Exception:
If the result is "0 cores used" it will be corrected to "1 cores used"

e.g. for 1%
8 * 0.01 = 0.08 ~= 0 cores used >> 1 cores used

Try 99% and 1% on your system


Note:
When I say "7 cores used" this just means "BOINC starts 7 tasks/applications/processes"
It's up to the OS to run them on specific cores and it moves them from core to core.
BOINC don't say to the OS anything about where to run the processes.

(Raistmer GPU apps can set their own CPU affinity ("pins" the own process to a specific core/thread) but that is unknown to BOINC)
 
245) Questions and Answers : Windows : Back after 10 years - New BOINC - reboot problem (Message 1807558)
Posted 6 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
BUT I have a question. Tthrottle shows all 4 cores at 75c to 80c ? Close proximity or are all hammering?

You have 3 computing processes running on 4 cores.
It is the Windows Process Scheduler that "moves" the processes between cores (from one core to another) so you may see almost equal load on all 4 cores.
246) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU FLOPS: Theory vs Reality (Message 1807434)
Posted 6 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I was doing SETI@home before BOINC many years ago under my starman2020 user name, but the accounts are not connected today and I do not have access to that yahoo email anymore.

All the 3 facts I underscored show that you CAN connect accounts.

While you are logged-in your current account:
- go to this page and paste your old "yahoo email":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php
247) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1807421)
Posted 6 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Warning: This machine appears to be attached to SETI@Home Beta.
If there are active Beta work units, this program may reassign them improperly,
as they look like SETI@Home work. OK to proceed (Y to continue)?Y

I think this "problem" with SETI@Home Beta can be avoided,
I'll give some hints to be discussed
(my knowledge of C is from long ago and I really don't know the ++ part of C++)


   Now the C++ code searches the entire client_state.xml like:
// Now scan client_state for the GPU platform and version_num
tempstring = "<plan_class>" + plan_class;
currentposition = 0;
while (currentposition >= 0) {
	nextposition = client_state.find(tempstring, currentposition);



   Instead it maybe can be searched between two pointers p1 and p2 from the start to end of SETI@home section, something like:
// Find start of SETI@home section
tempstring = "<master_url>http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/</master_url>";
p1 = client_state.find(tempstring, 0);
	if ( p1 == string::npos )  {
		cout << "Error: could not find SETI@home in client_state.xml, Nothing changed.\n";
		return 0;
	}

// Find end of SETI@home section
p2 = client_state.find("<project>", p1);
	if ( p2 == string::npos )  {
		p2 = client_state.find("</client_state>", p1);
	}


// Now scan client_state for the GPU platform and version_num
tempstring = "<plan_class>" + plan_class;
currentposition = p1;
while (currentposition >= p1 && currentposition < p2) {
	nextposition = client_state.find(tempstring, currentposition);

.........
248) Questions and Answers : Windows : Back after 10 years - New BOINC - reboot problem (Message 1807405)
Posted 5 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
99% = all but one core on any machine with 190 cores or less.

190 * 0.99 = 188.1 ~= 188 cores used == 2 cores free
101 * 0.99 = 99.99 ~= 99 cores used == 2 cores free
100 * 0.99 = 99 ~= 99 cores used == 1 core free

4 * 0.99 = 3.96 ~= 3 cores used == 1 core free
249) Questions and Answers : Windows : 6 x SETI@Home tasks stuck 1/2 done on 'waiting to run'.. (Message 1806667)
Posted 2 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
you'll need to have one PC (if you have many) with all the BOINC projects added that you're participating in.

Can be also done by "chaining" computers:
   C1  C2  C3  C4      C5
   / \ / \ / \ / \      |
  P1  P2  P3  P4  P5   P6


The above shows e.g. Computer3 attached to Projects 3 & 4
Project6 will not be shown on sites of Projects 1-5
250) Questions and Answers : Windows : Back after 10 years - New BOINC - reboot problem (Message 1806648)
Posted 2 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Maximum operating temperature     100°C
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i7/Intel-Core%20i7-4700HQ%20Mobile%20processor.html

But don't really run it at 100°C
Better try to keep it < 80°C for longer life

Try TThrottle (you may also like the graphs)
251) Questions and Answers : Windows : Back after 10 years - New BOINC - reboot problem (Message 1806643)
Posted 2 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Do I need to make a preference change (CPU 75%)?

Change "Use at most 100% of the CPUs"
(Not "Use at most 100% of CPU time" - 75% means compute for 3 seconds, wait for 1 second, and repeat - leads to "pulsed" CPU load)

Try
1% of the CPUs (will run only one CPU task (~ one core used))
50% of the CPUs (use half the cores)
99% of the CPUs (use one less core, all the cores -1)

Stay on "1% of the CPUs" until you see if it's stable, then you may try higher

Computing preferences
Local preferences

If you use Local preferences - switch to Advanced view to see them all


And link to get TThrottle

! TThrottle is NOT "actively reducing clock speeds" of the CPU
It only controls the applications running under BOINC - pauses them in ms intervals if needed (only if the temperatures set by you are reached/exceeded)

 
252) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU show a very large work file (Message 1806638)
Posted 2 Aug 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Name 05my10.ae1779.11523.11.38.202.0

It took me 5 minutes to find this task because you TYPED it!? (which is very strange to me to type instead of Copy/Paste)

The (real) name is:
05my10ae.17779.11523.11.38.202_0
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?result_name=05my10ae.17779.11523.11.38.202_0

This WU was already computed (finished) by someone else on CPU (Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5700 @ 3.00GHz) for 18,525 seconds (5 h)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=2217793351

Try to:
- Pause the task for 30-40 seconds then resume it
- Restart BOINC
- Restart Windows

Do the other tasks of the same kind "opencl_nvidia_SoG" run OK?
(before this task was run; and after you pause it another one should start - is it OK?)
 
253) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Fewer GPU units please (Message 1805800)
Posted 30 Jul 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
OK.. but what need I do to get a better balance of 8cpu : 1gpu?

If you want "Store 10 days of work" the SETI@home server just can't obey to that (other projects can) unless you have very slow computer (e.g. made 10-15 years ago)
Because there is a limit on the number of tasks (it's not only the time limit you set in "days of work")
So the SETI@home server will just fill CPU and GPU to the max possible of 100 + 100 tasks
(Your BOINC will continue to ask for more because 100 + 100 tasks are probably less than "10 days of work" but the SETI@home server will say "No" - visible in Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E))

But if you have error tasks on CPU the server will restrict even more sending tasks "for CPU" (reduce the #) until some CPU tasks are finished and validated OK

If you set for "1 days of work" the server may be able to "balance"
(it may be set even to fraction e.g. "0.1 days of work")

Look at your computer page and see how the SETI@home server knows how much time every device CPU / GPU is allowed to compute
"While BOINC is running, fraction of time computing is allowed"
"While is BOINC running, fraction of time GPU computing is allowed"

So if you really (in fact) allow less time for GPU to compute the server will "balance" for that.


Looking a bit deeper I notice that the GPU units are significantly shorter

"GPU units" - there is no such thing, they are the same and sent for CPU / GPU / ARM, Windows / Linux / Android ...
You get those WUs "for GPU" but the same WU will be sent to some other computer "for CPU"
They are not "shorter", just your GPU can compute them "significantly" faster than one core of your CPU
 
254) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU show a very large work file (Message 1805797)
Posted 30 Jul 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
"time remaining" is (initial) estimate which in this case should be Very wrong.
Do you see it drop fast? (e.g. a day every second)

? Probably task is marked by "AstroPulse v7 7.10 windows_intelx86 (opencl_nvidia_100)"
of which you have:
"Number of tasks completed 5"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=7757658

(Until you have 11 "tasks completed" (for that app on that device) the estimate may be wrong)

There are still no "large files" at SETI@home (but they prepare to make maybe 2x "larger files")
This "long" task is no different from the others (because it is not "long" task), it should take about the same time as your other tasks:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7757658&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=
255) Questions and Answers : Windows : Newbie Question about the Data Info panel (Message 1805791)
Posted 30 Jul 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
About why we process "old" data you can read some explanations here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79949

Info about "acronyms" (jargon) we use on SETI@home forums:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79990
256) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Fewer GPU units please (Message 1805509)
Posted 29 Jul 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
ID: 8009487 is the beast in question

I looked at your PC#8009487 and it has many tasks that didn't complete.
All of them (except for the last 3) reported ending abruptly with:
Error while computing
either directly at the beginning of the task or midway through.
And all of those (except for 1) were processed by the CPU.

For:
Exit status 3221226091 (0xc000026b) Unknown exit code
(unknown error) - exit code -1073741205 (0xc000026b)

Read:
"1073741205 Error Code (Unknown Error)"
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79695

Advice for now:
"Exit BOINC manually before restarting Windows"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79855&postid=1800530#1800530


P.S.
Technical note:
If you convert Hex C000026B to unsigned it gives Decimal 3221226091
If you convert Hex C000026B to signed it gives Decimal -1073741205
So (if using 4 bytes):
3221226091 == -1073741205 == 0xc000026b

The poster ("James W") incorrectly named his thread:
"1073741205 Error Code (Unknown Error)"

As you see it should be:
"-1073741205 Error Code (Unknown Error)"
 
257) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1805311)
Posted 28 Jul 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It seems to me your C++ code assumes too much.

E.g. this assumes a new line and exactly 4 spaces before </other_result>:
currentposition = sched_request.find("</app_version>\n    </other_result>");

(There should be a way to just skip any white-space (spaces, tabs, \n \r))

This expects "three-character version_num" (which will probably change for SETI@home v10)
version_numCPU = client_state.substr(nextposition, 3); // Extract the three-character version_num


If you decide some time to make another version of GUPPIRescheduler you may find some XML open source C++ libraries which should ease the parsing and changing of client_state.xml

I found this list:
http://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/links/libs

... which lists:
http://www.xmlsoft.org/
http://pugixml.org/
http://www.grinninglizard.com/tinyxml/
http://xerces.apache.org/xerces-c/
258) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1805193)
Posted 27 Jul 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The only reason I stopped the boinctray.exe process is because I thought it might be restarting the Boinc Client sometimes before it had finished saving the changes.

The only programs I know which restart Boinc Client (boinc.exe) are:
- BOINC Manager (boincmgr.exe) - after 30 seconds of "disappearance" of Boinc Client the BOINC Manager restarts it (maybe only if Boinc Client was started initially by BOINC Manager)
- BoincTasks (if set to do so by "Start BOINC client, when BoincTasks starts")
259) Message boards : Number crunching : GUPPI Rescheduler for Linux and Windows - Move GUPPI work to CPU and non-GUPPI to GPU (Message 1805185)
Posted 27 Jul 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
My script (.cmd file) does restart the Boinc Client at the end with the line:
"C:\Program Files\BOINC\boinc.exe" --detach

To not have hard-coded:
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\
C:\Program Files\BOINC\

You can look in MBbench210.cmd (MBbench210.7z) how they use Registry to find the INSTALLDIR (the same can be used also for DATADIR)

E.g. mine is:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley\BOINC Setup]
"INSTALLDIR"="H:\\BOINC\\"
"DATADIR"="H:\\BOINC-Data\\"


From MBbench210.cmd:
if not defined InstDir (
    reg query "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley\BOINC Setup" /v INSTALLDIR >installed.txt
    for /F "tokens=2*" %%a in ('findstr REG_SZ installed.txt') do set InstDir=%%b
)
if not defined InstDir goto SKIPSUSP

echo Suspending BOINC crunching...
:: Suspend for two days...
"%InstDir%boinccmd" --set_gpu_mode never 172800 2>NUL
"%InstDir%boinccmd" --set_run_mode never 172800 2>NUL
if errorlevel 1 (
    echo Suspend failed, assuming BOINC wasn't running.
    goto SKIPSUSP
    )
set needrestore=true
echo Previous BOINC state will be restored when test finishes.

:SKIPSUSP


     2) You do not need to taskkill boinctray.exe
It does not use client_state.xml
It is needed to detect user idle/busy time (keyboard mouse usage)
Without it running BOINC may not detect keyboard/mouse usage and continue running apps despite user selects "Suspend when computer is in use"
 
260) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Sorry Wrong English Little Problem (Message 1805170)
Posted 27 Jul 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
hope it is possible to change that

Change what?

Type short:
1) What is your problem?
2) What do you want to change?

(The Google Translate of your post is absolute mess and I can't understand it)

all accounts have only 2 email addresses

Every account can have only 1 email address
(so where do you see 2 email addresses?)
261) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU FLOPS: Theory vs Reality (Message 1804056)
Posted 22 Jul 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I ended up using the latest version of the X 16 software,

What about MSI Afterburner?
https://gaming.msi.com/features/afterburner
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/msi-afterburner-beta-download.html
262) Message boards : Number crunching : BoincLogX: where are the logs hiding? (Message 1804050)
Posted 22 Jul 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Just found them ...

The BoincLogX logs are where You put them, there is a Setting
Mine are in:
h:\Programs.Vis\Science\BoincLogX\logs\

The "default log folder wasn't even created by the program" because it is sub-directory to the install directory which by default is in Program Files
And new Windows (Vista, 7) don't allow writing in Program Files

Moral: Try to Not install old programs/games (made for Windows XP, 98) in Program Files
Make your own directory (e.g. C:\Programs_XP) and install old programs there.
263) Questions and Answers : Windows : How to delete voice messages from SETI@home? (Message 1804038)
Posted 22 Jul 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This is not anything that BOINC or SETI@home does (they don't have any audio ability)

You obviously installed SETIspirit (which is made by totally different programmer not connected with BOINC or SETI@home; so you ARE "hearing voices from other software")
http://www.setispirit.de/downloads.htm

Switch Off voice in SETIspirit - there is icon at top-right of the main SETIspirit window.
(or stop using SETIspirit if you don't like it, it is not any necessary for BOINC or SETI@home to work)
264) Questions and Answers : Windows : Notice from server: Update Nvidia Driver, but not available (Message 1801977)
Posted 10 Jul 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
In fact for NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 you need Older driver
Ask in Number Crunching which is best for your GPU

I think the best is 266.58 or 388.xx (I forget the exact sub-version)
265) Questions and Answers : Windows : missing task (Message 1801976)
Posted 10 Jul 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I doubt the other member will get too upset when, come July 30th, he/she loses his/her credit when I fail to return my completed copies of the quorums.

He will not lose any credit - the task will timeout and new task (same WU) will be sent to someone else (up to 10 times the WU is "tried" again)
E.g. look:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=2204611247
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=2161842936
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=2204614213


1) How is it that the server's database comes to believe that WUs have been delivered when, in fact, the "recipient" does not have a copy?

This is a fairly common (~2-5%) situation:
- the computer asks for work
- server sent Message back "here is your work, go and Download it"
- that Message was lost somewhere on Internet so the computer don't know it have to "go and Download it"
= web shows "In Progress" (at the moment "server sent Message back") but the tasks are not really Downloaded (which is the second phase of "get tasks")

These tasks are called ghosts
266) Message boards : Number crunching : Seti@home and Virtual Machines (Message 1801940)
Posted 10 Jul 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
No (if you mean to get more work done)
267) Message boards : Number crunching : What is "an exclusive app?" (Message 1801937)
Posted 10 Jul 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
However it happened, by mistake or design, ...

This can't be "by design" as user have to manually add/remove the exclusive_app / exclusive_gpu_app
(by manually editing cc_config.xml or by BOINC Manager Menu - Options -> Exclusive applications (which automatically edits cc_config.xml))

Check your cc_config.xml for lines like this:
<exclusive_app>filename.exe</exclusive_app>
<exclusive_gpu_app>eurotrucks2.exe</exclusive_gpu_app>


Note:
exclusive_gpu_app is Not the SETI@home or other projects' GPU app
exclusive_gpu_app is meant to Stop GPU Computing by BOINC while some game or video player is running

 
268) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC client isn't downloading new S@H workunits on S6 Android (Message 1801935)
Posted 10 Jul 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Why don't you all go to older BOINC version (7.4.43) until this is fixed?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79857&postid=1800335#1800335
269) Message boards : Number crunching : high memory uses (Message 1801654)
Posted 9 Jul 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thread "Questions and Answers : Windows : Task gone":
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79855

Also give link to the PC with problem.

1) For me is not clear did you found the reason for the main problem - "Abandoned tasks" after you restart Windows (and start BOINC)?
Is this "fixed" if you "Exit BOINC manually before restarting Windows"?

2) https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79855&postid=1801019#1801019

Firefox open 277,472 uses 19% -

Lunatics 108,460 from 118,460 uses 17%

i have 16 gigs of memory, used is 3.1 gigs

i am running 8 tasks on the cpu, and 8 tasks on my 2 video cards, have run it like this before, with out any memory problems, ...
... Soon as i close bonic BOINC memory drops to 1.6 used memory

a. Why you test/mix 2 programs? (Firefox & "Lunatics" (some GPU (?) app which you did not identify))
b. Using 3 GB of 16 is not really "a problem", more like "a puzzle"

c. Calc:
   Observation 1 (diff in used memory):
BOINC & apps use: 3.1 - 1.6 = 1.5 GB

   Observation 2 (sum of all "BOINC"):
8 GPU tasks * 100 MB = 800 MB
8 CPU tasks *  50 MB = 400 MB
BOINC (boinc.exe boincmgr.exe) ~ 50 MB
Total: 1250 MB ~ 1.2 GB

So you have only ~ 300 MB "missing".


d. When you look at the list of processes (Windows Task Manager, Process Explorer) to see the RAM usage of every process
- did you checked the Option to see the "processes from All users"?
 
270) Message boards : Number crunching : First results of a SETI crunching PC ( 2 GPU -> to be 6 )...not what I expected (Message 1801021)
Posted 6 Jul 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
One thing : you said BoincTask can save history in .csv format...how ?

The .cvs files are already created by default, look in:
%APPDATA%\eFMer\BoincTasks\history\

(just Copy/Paste the above line in "Run..." box (Win+R))
271) Questions and Answers : Windows : Task gone (Message 1801010)
Posted 6 Jul 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Which processes use the (most) memory? (check by Windows Task Manager, Process Explorer)

(and BOINC, not bonic)
272) Message boards : Number crunching : Say goodbye to SETI@home v7. (Message 1800555)
Posted 4 Jul 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have 3 waiting to validate.
On computer 700318xx

No, you don't have any SETI@home v7 tasks:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7003180&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=11
273) Questions and Answers : Windows : Task gone (Message 1800530)
Posted 4 Jul 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I looked quickly at the link he (BilBg) provided and didn't find anything very helpful except ...

I think the "moral" from that thread is:
Exit BOINC manually before restarting Windows

New Windows update changed one error code (which informs programs that Windows is shutting down)
BOINC don't know about that new error code and tries to start tasks while Windows is in shutdown and they refuse to start
Of course you will see the errored tasks only after you restart BOINC

So until they release new fixed BOINC - Exit BOINC manually before restarting Windows

But I'm not sure that this is the case for the problem reported in this thread.
274) Questions and Answers : Windows : Task gone (Message 1799849)
Posted 1 Jul 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I don't really understand your English but you seem to mean this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79695
275) Message boards : Number crunching : Error while downloading - ideas?? (Message 1799701)
Posted 30 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Did see for the first time an entry for checksum or signature error. That wasn't in the logs in the previous errors.

30-Jun-2016 02:30:59 [SETI@home] Checksum or signature error for blc3_2bit_guppi_57451_66326_HIP117463_OFF_0014.30807.0.17.26.253.vlar

See Your post (27 Jun 2016):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79812&postid=1799102#1799102
276) Message boards : Number crunching : Is it possible to swap a guppi assigned to GPU with a Arecibo assigned to CPU? (Message 1799692)
Posted 30 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Matching client state changes to scheduler files...

If this means your script edits sched_request_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml
- I don't think it is needed - BOINC creates new sched_request_ file (without reading the previous) before every scheduler request ([Update])
(i.e. BOINC never reads/parse sched_request_ files (you may even delete them), only writes to them.)

The only thing your script need to analyse and edit is client_state.xml
(the analyse for <app_version> ... <version_num> <plan_class> have to be in client_state.xml and not in sched_request_*)
277) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : AMD 6950 GPU load starts and stops (Message 1798992)
Posted 27 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
clean driver instllations etc...

To be really "clean" did you used "Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU)"?:
http://www.wagnardmobile.com/
http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/display_driver_uninstaller_download.html


Install AMD 14.4 WHQL drivers, but that did not make it use any GPU load...

If "AMD 14.4 WHQL drivers" are the last working for HD 6950 - it is possible that ATI AMD dropped (did not include) the OpenCL part in the package.

Check if what you Downloaded have the OpenCL part:
- Open the Setup .exe by 7-Zip and look what files are inside
- Look in C:\ATI\Support\{driver version name}\Packages\Apps\OpenCL\

E.g. I can see OpenCL.msi in:
11-12_xp32_dd_ccc_ocl.exe\$_OUTDIR\Packages\Apps\OpenCL\
D:\ATI\Support\11-12_xp32_dd_ccc_ocl\Packages\Apps\OpenCL\
278) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI applications for NVIDIA GPU improvement - how you can help (Message 1798985)
Posted 27 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
     I can change back to SoG with 0.45 installer Beta(3) but how do I make it use this app instead of the included r3472?

Copy the files from the new package to SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)      (probably you can skip the .dll files - they should be the same)
Edit app_info.xml with Notepad

Global replace (Ctrl+Home Ctrl+H) the old .exe name by the new MB8_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_r3475.exe
Global replace (Ctrl+Home Ctrl+H) the old MultiBeam_Kernels_rXXXX.cl name by the new MultiBeam_Kernels_r3475.cl

(Don't type anything, only use Copy/Paste from real filenames to avoid mistakes.)

Save the edited app_info.xml
Restart BOINC


P.S.
Don't use the included MB8_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV.aistub since it have only:
<version_num>800</version_num>
279) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Tsk with nvidia_sog file (Message 1798981)
Posted 27 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Discussed here:
"SETI@home v8.12 Windows GPU applications support thread"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79760

They (developers) try to find what to change for next sub-version (e.g. v8.13) in application code and Settings to "fix SoG hang issue on low-end GPUs"

And the main developer (Raistmer) try to find some NVIDIA hardware where he can test his apps:
"SETI applications for NVIDIA GPU improvement - how you can help"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79765
280) Message boards : Number crunching : Open Beta test: SoG for NVidia, Lunatics v0.45 - Beta6 (RC again) (Message 1797776)
Posted 21 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
OK, I checked and THIS TIME the CNET Download is clean (identical file to HxDSetupEN.zip from the FTP download link)

But CNET is source of adware ("infects" browser) which THEY put "around" many of the free files, see user comments:
https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/download.cnet.com

You should have one of these files:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/ea6ea4d4cc90f891915856b0393f99f275c0b6bb2a9e75a6b262117a18a2a469/analysis/
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/ec8ab9522eefd2db19a18203e4195430a12c0c9e49b1e15cf195cee385da0d0c/analysis/

Look in "Additional information" for MD5 and File size.
Or just send your file for scan:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/
281) Message boards : Number crunching : Open Beta test: SoG for NVidia, Lunatics v0.45 - Beta6 (RC again) (Message 1797646)
Posted 20 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have downloaded the hex editor

I hope you did NOT used download.cnet.com !

Use the FTP download link:
ftp://wa651f4:anonymous@mh-nexus.de/HxDSetupEN.zip

I prefer 'portable' (no install):
ftp://wa651f4:anonymous@mh-nexus.de/HxDen.zip
 
282) Message boards : Number crunching : Open Beta test: SoG for NVidia, Lunatics v0.45 - Beta6 (RC again) (Message 1797644)
Posted 20 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I fear I will probably have to leave that to the next generation of installer writers.

You may just put an "example" app_config.xml file in docs\ in a hope that people even look in docs\
(and maybe ReadMe_app_config.txt to say some short info where to copy it and what to edit in it?)
283) Message boards : Number crunching : Open Beta test: SoG for NVidia, Lunatics v0.45 - Beta6 (RC again) (Message 1797618)
Posted 20 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
this installer is designed to preserve your downloaded tasks and pick up where your previous application left off. That includes when switching between CUDA and SoG, in either direction.

"The installer is designed to preserve" but users are not ;)

One user 'aborted the Cuda WUs that were "Ready to start"' after installing SoG app by this installer.
He didn't understand that what is shown in BOINC Manager (tasks marked as CUDA) is not the reality.

He wants/advices for "at least inform the user at the end of the Lunatics setup" about this "quirk":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79766&postid=1797177#1797177
284) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Running 2 WorkUnits on a GPU is using 2 cores to feed GPU. Is there a quick way to figure out if that's an improvement? (Message 1797617)
Posted 20 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I hope they can fix that in Lunatics (if possible) ...

Fix what?
Lunatics installer never changes client_state.xml (now or in the past)
Anything already Downloaded (e.g. marked as stock apps) will remain marked the same in client_state.xml (as shown by BOINC Manager)

If you want "at least inform the user at the end of the Lunatics setup" ask the author (Richard Haselgrove) in the place where he will see this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79704
285) Message boards : Number crunching : Open Beta test: SoG for NVidia, Lunatics v0.45 - Beta6 (RC again) (Message 1797614)
Posted 20 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Use [Quote] button and Copy/Paste the following line to Notepad:
->               <- space (nbsp)

-> <-
-> <-
. . Even when I copy your spaces, both directly and via a notepad file, once I paste them into a message they end up disappearing when it is posted so I am guessing that Hex character 'A0' is not supported in the character set loaded on this machine. Or there is something that changes them to Hex character '20'.

. . Thanks for trying to help.

You Quoted my line (above) and it is OK
This is "copy directly" from the typing box, Not from the page:
->               <- space (nbsp)

So nothing changes them in the browser.

Alt+255 works in any program, e.g. while typing in Notepad. Try it.
Save the .txt (as ANSI) and open in Hex Editor - what do you see?
https://mh-nexus.de/en/hxd/
286) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI applications for NVIDIA GPU improvement - how you can help (Message 1796839)
Posted 17 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I need to set up dropbox again, something went wrong with the first try.

You may also use:
http://www.zippyshare.com/

Note:
Since zippyshare uses some misleading [Download] buttons (ads) on the resulting pages you (all) may want to first add uBlock Origin to your browser:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/
287) Questions and Answers : Web site : Can't merge computers by name on website (Message 1796837)
Posted 17 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
4. Now /all/ of those sites are reporting roughly the same number I get at the top of the "My Account" page, indicating that all but the most recent credits are included.

Next time check this page:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/stats/

If the files are old all the "stats sites" will show that old info.
(if you get user.gz you can find in it all the users of SETI@home including yourself)
288) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Running 2 WorkUnits on a GPU is using 2 cores to feed GPU. Is there a quick way to figure out if that's an improvement? (Message 1796830)
Posted 17 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Is there an easy way where I can keep the sse3 app running on the CPU cores but get the SoG app running on the GPUs (instead of Cuda 50)

The only way I have come across that doesn't involve going into complex XML files or the command line is by trying Lunatics v0.45 in BETA that I mention in my 2nd post.

Yes, Lunatics v0.45 is the best way.
"command line" can be used for both stock and Lunatics ("command line" will be empty by default in both cases)

! Lunatics v0.45 have both CUDA and SoG apps - if you later want to go back to CUDA do Not run Lunatics v0.44 ! (because all the "SoG tasks" will be deleted)
Instead run again Lunatics v0.45 and choose CUDA (will preserve "SoG tasks" and "mark them" as CUDA tasks - this may not be visible in BOINC Manager but they will be done by selected CUDA app which can be checked by Windows Task Manager)


then I can compare using the stock setup (with SoG on the GPUs)

With "stock setup" you can't choose SoG - the server will send tasks for some (all?) CUDA versions and for opencl_nvidia_sah & opencl_nvidia_SoG
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php
289) Message boards : Number crunching : Open Beta test: SoG for NVidia, Lunatics v0.45 - Beta6 (RC again) (Message 1796828)
Posted 17 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
[edit] a pity it didn't work though.

Use [Quote] button and Copy/Paste the following line to Notepad:
->               <- space (nbsp)

Then use (Copy/Paste from Notepad in future) the "spaces" that are between the arrows.

P.S.
- Do not Copy the above line from the page, Copy from the typing box after [Quote] button.
- Use [Preview] button before post to see if "it did work"

Alt+255 (and similar) exist since MS-DOS times.

"Your spaces" look like normal spaces (Hex: 20 20 20 ...) and "My spaces" look like A0 A0 A0 ...:
20 20 20 20 20 20 54 68 69 73 20 69 73 20 73 6F 20 6D 75 63 68 20 62 65 74 74 65 72 :      This is so much better
2D 3E A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 3C 2D                            : ->               <-
290) Questions and Answers : Web site : Can't merge computers by name on website (Message 1796578)
Posted 16 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
all other places it's not containing the unmerged credits and therefore shows 30% less.

See:
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/0/user/detail/333020/overview
291) Message boards : Number crunching : Enabling APU's GPU with installed discrete GPU. Mobo is MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 (Message 1796323)
Posted 15 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What Settings are in the BIOS for this?
If there is no Enable / Disable APU look for "Shared RAM"
Set Shared RAM to fixed (e.g. 512 MB) and not to Auto
292) Message boards : Number crunching : Open Beta test: SoG for NVidia, Lunatics v0.45 - Beta6 (RC again) (Message 1796310)
Posted 15 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
. . I think you made the same mistake I did, .....

. . Another brilliant "D'oh!" moment.

Off-topic:
If you use these dots only to make indented text - why not use Alt+255
Like this: 
     I think you made the same mistake I did, .....

     Another brilliant "D'oh!" moment.


P.S.
Alt+255 = press Alt, type 255 (use the Right-num-keys, not the top), release Alt
Then Copy/Paste that ->                <- space (nbsp)                as many times you like.
293) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Running 2 WorkUnits on a GPU is using 2 cores to feed GPU. Is there a quick way to figure out if that's an improvement? (Message 1796299)
Posted 15 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Are there other options that I'm not aware of?

You may ask in "OpenCL NV MultiBeam v8 SoG edition for Windows" for the best Settings (cmdline) for SoG app on your NVIDIA GTX 750 Ti
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79019

Then you may just Copy/Paste to the appropriate .txt file.
(I don't know the exact filename but something like mb_cmdline_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_NV_SoG.txt)

As an example (not recommendation) - in this post there is a cmdline ( -sbs 192 ..... -oclfft_tune_cw 16 )
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79019&postid=1773305#1773305


There should be also ~ ReadMe_MultiBeam_OpenCL_NV.txt in setiathome.berkeley.edu\docs\
 
294) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Running 2 WorkUnits on a GPU is using 2 cores to feed GPU. Is there a quick way to figure out if that's an improvement? (Message 1795666)
Posted 12 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
<cpu_usage>0.25</cpu_usage>
.....
It works!!! ...but it is using 1 core to feed each of the the GPU WUs.

It's not clear what you mean by "using" and what you mean by "it".
The <cpu_usage>0.25 tells BOINC to "free one core" (run one less CPU task) per 4 GPU tasks running.


BOINC sees 8 cores and I was letting it use 6 or 7

So you tell BOINC to "free cores" by 2 ways (which add-up)
- by Setting: e.g. "Use at most 99% of the CPUs" ("hard" Setting - will free 1 core always)
- by app_config.xml ("soft" Setting - (if <cpu_usage>0.25) will free 1 core only if 4 GPU tasks are running)

<cpu_usage> in app_config.xml don't tell anything to the app, because the app don't know what is app_config.xml (which is read only by BOINC)
295) Message boards : Number crunching : Anything relating to AstroPulse tasks (Message 1794595)
Posted 9 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
and kept hammering the retry button

If you use BoincTasks this hammering can be automated, I have this set at ~15 minutes (refresh_asap) in config.xml (in BoincTasks install directory, next to BoincTasks.exe)
<config>
	<refresh>
		<downloads>	1709	</downloads>
		<uploads>	1307	</uploads>
		<refresh>	3571	</refresh>
		<refresh_asap>	907	</refresh_asap>
	</refresh>
</config>


Note:
For me <refresh> don't work (is ignored) when <refresh_asap> is present (on BoincTasks 1.61)
296) Questions and Answers : Windows : LOSS OF PERFORMANCE (Message 1794539)
Posted 8 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You may just read "Average Credit Decreasing?":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79418
297) Message boards : Number crunching : OpenCL MB v8.12 issues thread attempt 2 (Message 1794472)
Posted 8 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Max compute units: 24

24 is shown for the TITAN X
For GeForce GTX 1080 is shown 20
  Max compute units:				 20
  Max work group size:				 1024
  Max clock frequency:				 1733Mhz
  Max memory allocation:			 2147483648
  Cache type:					 Read/Write
  Cache line size:				 128
  Cache size:					 327680
  Global memory size:				 8589934592
  Constant buffer size:				 65536
  Max number of constant args:			 9
  Local memory type:				 Scratchpad
  Local memory size:				 49152
  Queue properties:				 
    Out-of-Order:				 Yes
  Name:						 GeForce GTX 1080
298) Message boards : Number crunching : Optimizing SBS and Period Iterations for the Fury X (Message 1794418)
Posted 8 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Any better recommendation for future posts?

I just click on your link:
https://goo.gl/photos/ToZxyJgxrxDFNGSa7

... then on Thumbnail, then Right-Click on image -> Open image in new tab
299) Message boards : Number crunching : Optimizing SBS and Period Iterations for the Fury X (Message 1794401)
Posted 8 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You used some very long link for your image which don't work, here is your image:

300) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Wrong information about GPU on Computer Info page (Message 1794386)
Posted 8 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I think this is only cosmetic - to simplify the web pages only the "best" GPU is shown.
In your case the "best" GPU is determined because of "OpenCL 2.0"

BOINC reports all the details to the server, I recently made 2 posts about that:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79591&postid=1789475#1789475
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79738&postid=1793876#1793876

Applications know where they run and detect both GPUs OK:

Running on device number: 0
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4970229273
Low-performance GPU detected, default period_iterations_num set to 500
Used GPU device parameters are:
	Number of compute units: 2
	Single buffer allocation size: 128MB
	Total device global memory: 1648MB
	max WG size: 256
	local mem type: Real
	LotOfMem path: yes
	LowPerformanceGPU path: yes
period_iterations_num=500


Running on device number: 1
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4970875081
Used GPU device parameters are:
	Number of compute units: 5
	Single buffer allocation size: 128MB
	Total device global memory: 2048MB
	max WG size: 256
	local mem type: Real
	LotOfMem path: no
	LowPerformanceGPU path: no
period_iterations_num=50
301) Message boards : Number crunching : No more guppi's=vlars on the gpu please (Message 1794147)
Posted 7 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
. . BTW, can you tell me how to insert a graphic/image into a message?

Example:

1) Go to:
http://postimage.org/

Upload your file (for programs' windows the best format is .png)

2) Copy/Paste the "Direct Link" here, in my case it was:
http://s33.postimg.org/xv9h331wv/ATI_Memory_Viewer_07_06_2016.png

3) Mark/select the whole line ([Home], Shift+[End] on the keyboard)

4) Click [Img] button here, you will get:
[img]http://s33.postimg.org/xv9h331wv/ATI_Memory_Viewer_07_06_2016.png[/img]


5) Use the [Preview] button to see if all is correct.

And you will get:




P.S.
- To see the 'code' of my post - use the [Quote] button under it and read the raw text.

- The original filename was:
ATI MemoryViewer - 07.06.2016.png
It was changed automatically by postimage.org to ATI_Memory_Viewer_07_06_2016.png

- On the first usage of postimage.org you have to select "FAMILY safe" before [Upload It!]
(it is remembered for the next visits)
 
302) Message boards : Number crunching : Some considerations regarding OpenCL MultiBeam app tuning from algorithm view (Message 1794138)
Posted 7 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
-period_iterations_num N
"splits single call to N subsequent calls each of those process only 1/Nth of all available periods"

What is the max and min # of "all available periods"?
(1/50 of 1000 can be easy on GPU and 1/50 of 1000000 can be hard (lags))

1/Nth is relative to the # of all available periods

Do we have a way to set the (absolute) max # of periods in single kernel call?
e.g. something like:
-max_num_of_periods_per_call 1000
-num_of_periods_per_call_max 1000

(i.e. if "1/Nth of all available periods" gives more than 1000 the N should be changed automatically (for this sequence of calls) so less than 1000 periods be computed in single kernel call.
(I don't know if 1000 is anywhere near the reality.)
)
303) Message boards : Number crunching : CPU time difference (Message 1793876)
Posted 6 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
*edit* Display it on the server system summary page that is, it displays it locally just fine, every time for me.

BOINC not only "displays it locally just fine", it also reports all this info to the server.
Check your sched_request_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml
Find in it strings <host_info> and <coproc_

(I have only one <coproc_ati> but I think you'll find in your file several GPUs listed)
304) Message boards : Number crunching : LotzaCores and a GTX 1080 FTW (Message 1793783)
Posted 5 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
for whatever reason, BOINC can't seem to identify more than one video card correctly.

Not really true, especially for GPUs from one vendor.
(i.e. if all are NVIDIA they use the same NVIDIA driver)

Maybe you mean not "can't seem to identify" but "can't seem to use"?
Because if the GPUs are all NVIDIA but different - for BOINC to use all of them you will need:
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus> in cc_config.xml

If in doubt - post the start of Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E)


More info on "use_all_gpus" (by Ageless):
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=78800&postid=1756194#1756194

... and later on the same thread about "Dummy Plug" (by me):
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=78800&postid=1774759#1774759
305) Message boards : Number crunching : What drivers are people using with the 1080 (Message 1793293)
Posted 4 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Plus, they have released a new version of Precision X 16 for the new hardware too. The last version was released in 2013, so it's about time for a new version. Not sure if it is a 64 bit version or not, but I hope so, and if not, I hope they are working on one and will release it soon.


That new Precision X requires your name, email and SN of the card to install, lol

I get the file from (no need for any name, email, etc.):
http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/evga_precision.html

On the page you can see this "funny" comment:
"Editor's Note:
Wow, what a nightmare to download.
Register with them asking for your email, address and phone number, confirm your email, answer a survey.
That sucks but we did it all for you so you don't have to.
Enjoy!
"

The file is:
EVGA_PrecisionX_16_Setup_v5.3.11.zip
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/8409bf60e09e6935fefb7a68737f1f246c3039f0ea573582ab6f85b086197eef/analysis/

... and inside of the .zip is:
EVGA_PrecisionX_16_Setup.exe (28 682 104 bytes) 12.04.2016
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/0cbbcd8703681829ed2ebee2a405ed32777c2c342892ffd0b743ddee69fd1c7e/analysis/

I tested installing it on Windows XP - again no need for any name, email, etc.


(The installed PrecisionX.exe can't start on Windows XP but that is another/different issue:
D:\Program Files\EVGA\PrecisionX 16\PrecisionX.exe is not a valid Win32 application.
)
306) Questions and Answers : Web site : Why is re-logging in necessary? (Message 1793254)
Posted 4 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It's simple: as per Message 1787070
- something on your system deletes cookies (Do you use some "cleaner" program? Do you use the same Antivirus with same Settings on all computers?)
- you have your browser set to discard or block cookies (Do you use some extension/add-on in the browser that may do this?)

The password (in fact 'account key') is remembered in a browser cookie:
Name: auth
Content: {your 'account key'}   http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/weak_auth.php
Domain: setiathome.berkeley.edu

... and this cookie have (normally) life of one year:
Created: March 3, 2016 at 7:20:10 AM
Expires: March 3, 2017 at 7:20:10 AM


P.S.
You didn't tell exactly which browsers do you use on your computers (you mentioned "Internet Explorer" but is this the browser you use now?)
If "Internet Explorer" have something like "incognito" mode/window - in that mode no cookies or history is preserved.
(Any Chromium clone (I use SRWare Iron/IronPortable and Slimjet Browser) have "incognito" mode invoked by Ctrl+Shift+N)

I don't use IE (and "my IE" is the old Windows XP version) so don't know if something like "incognito" mode exists in it.
 
307) Questions and Answers : Web site : possible bug for webpages listing the 10,000 Top participants & Top Computers (Message 1791913)
Posted 30 May 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Another similar thread ("Top Hosts"):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79692
308) Questions and Answers : Web site : possible bug for webpages listing the 10,000 Top participants & Top Computers (Message 1791808)
Posted 29 May 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
OK, I see you now at 2880 and 2888 with different RAC and Credit (no matter if I use Ctrl+F5)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/top_users.php?sort_by=expavg_credit&offset=2860
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/top_users.php?sort_by=expavg_credit&offset=2880

2880	Stubbles69	9,267	278,507	Canada	29 Nov 1999, 23:28:13 UTC
.....
2888	Stubbles69	9,245	277,942	Canada	29 Nov 1999, 23:28:13 UTC


At the left (here) I see yet another "version" of the numbers:
Credit: 282,078
RAC: 9,269

So there seem to really exist bug on "Top participants" pages (in top_users.php or in database)

P.S.
I just sent Message to David Anderson
309) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : kann man die gpu Auslastung begrenzen? (Message 1791038)
Posted 27 May 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
kann man die gpu Auslastung begrenzen? wenn ja wie?

you can limit the gpu utilization? if yes how?

Not really
But you may try TThrottle and set lower temperature for the GPU
(this will lower the GPU utilization if the temperature reaches the limit set by you)
310) Questions and Answers : Web site : possible bug for webpages listing the 10,000 Top participants & Top Computers (Message 1791033)
Posted 27 May 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Also, sometimes I am not listed at all since my RAC falls in between pages (slightly too high on a certain page but slightly too low on the "previous" page).

Did you try F5 or Ctrl+F5 (before and after "Previous 20 · Next 20")?

At the moment of post you are at 3045
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/top_users.php?sort_by=expavg_credit&offset=3040
311) Questions and Answers : Web site : Is there are way or a place to get the bulk data from: Statistics | Top Computers/Hosts? (Message 1791028)
Posted 27 May 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Not "high level of accuracy" but you may spot the most active areas on this animation:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/kiosk/

If you look at the page code Ctrl+U
view-source:http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/kiosk/

... at the bottom are these links:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/kiosk/js/in-locs.js
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/kiosk/js/out-locs.js

They are tables/lists of
... {"la":"46.81228","lo":"-71.21454","cc":"CA"}, {"la":"51.45625","lo":"-0.97113","cc":"GB"}, ...

I think they change every day, you may save them and find a way to analyse.
312) Questions and Answers : Web site : Is there are way or a place to get the bulk data from: Statistics | Top Computers/Hosts? (Message 1790997)
Posted 27 May 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Not "high level of accuracy" but you may spot the most active areas on this animation:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/kiosk/

"By country" map:
(I doubt "they" (stats sites) can supply better accuracy as IP is private and projects keep it secret)
http://boincstats.com/pl/stats/0/project/detail/country

("By time zones" may apply only to "wide" (W-E) countries (e.g. Russia) and not to small or "tall" (N-S) countries (e.g. Chile))

P.S.
The page at stats.free-dc do not work for me ("Loading Stats Data..." never finishes):
http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=countries&proj=sah
313) Questions and Answers : Windows : Task Stalled at 99.730% Complete (Message 1790160)
Posted 25 May 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Failed to load 'user_logo'.
Failed to load 'background'.

Nothing to worry about these, they are normal Messages (they are "by default") because user_logo and background are custom files which normally don't exist.
Only if the user wants he may supply in SETI@home preferences "URL of background image" and "URL of logo image"


I tried suspend/resume about 50 times with no change.

How long do you wait (e.g. 2-3 minutes should be enough) after resume?

I'm almost sure the app is hanging in "Optimal function choices" (which don't depend on task), this is long (years) existing bug in stock CPU apps.
If the app passes the "Optimal function choices" (startup phase) it will continue with the task and not hang during its processing.

You can see the app is doing real progress by:
- in Windows Task Manager, on Performance tab - from View menu check "Show Kernel Times" - then "too much" Red will mean the app is hang in "Optimal function choices"
- date/time of state.sah will change every minute (that is the checkpoint file)
- the <prog>0.99646484</prog> inside state.sah will change (increase)


Did you try to reboot?

P.S.
I know how to avoid this hang (and compute much faster) but you will lose the SETI@home screensaver

To try this "fix"/improvement - use the Lunatics installer (to install optimized applications):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71867&postid=1758149#1758149

Again: optimized applications don't have screensaver
314) Questions and Answers : Windows : Task Stalled at 99.730% Complete (Message 1789821)
Posted 23 May 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It should be this task:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4920821023

Try a few more "suspending it and then resuming" - the app is probably stuck in "Optimal function choices"


More Advanced:
- Find your BOINC Data directory (in the start of Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E))
- go to slots\ directory
- in one of them find stderr.txt - open it and post contents

- look in state.sah - near beginning you may see <prog>0.99730000</prog>
315) Questions and Answers : Web site : Is there are way or a place to get the bulk data from: Statistics | Top Computers/Hosts? (Message 1789475)
Posted 22 May 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The date and time fields are not what I have come across in the past.
Q1. Any idea where I can get info on converting something like: 1381254675.63566

1381254675.63566 = 08 Oct 2013 17:51:15 GMT
http://www.onlineconversion.com/unix_time.htm


I have come across a few records that have inconsistencies, such as this one:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6081632
where the details of the "p_vendor" has the data that should be in "p_model" field.
Q2. Is there someone I should report these inconsistencies to?

No need to report - this computer is using very very old BOINC version 3.20.0

All this info is detected by BOINC running on the computer and then reported to the server in sched_request_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml (check this file in your BOINC Data directory):

<host_info>
.......
<p_ncpus>3</p_ncpus>
<p_vendor>AuthenticAMD</p_vendor>
<p_model>AMD Athlon(tm) II X3 455 Processor [Family 16 Model 5 Stepping 3]</p_model>
<p_features>fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 htt pni cx16 syscall nx lm svm sse4a osvw ibs skinit wdt page1gb rdtscp 3dnowext 3dnow</p_features>
<p_fpops>3350943396.226415</p_fpops>
<p_iops>7288347395.347965</p_iops>
.......
<os_name>Microsoft Windows XP</os_name>
<os_version>Professional x86 Edition, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00)</os_version>
</host_info>

<coproc_ati>
   <count>1</count>
   <name>ATI Radeon HD 6570 (NI TURKS) {ASUS EAH6570/DI/1GD3(LP)}</name>
   <req_secs>144881.226448</req_secs>
   <req_instances>0.000000</req_instances>
   <estimated_delay>0.000000</estimated_delay>
   <target>18</target>
   <localRAM>1024</localRAM>
   <uncachedRemoteRAM>128</uncachedRemoteRAM>
   <cachedRemoteRAM>64</cachedRemoteRAM>
   <engineClock>800</engineClock>
   <memoryClock>1050</memoryClock>
   <wavefrontSize>64</wavefrontSize>
   <numberOfSIMD>6</numberOfSIMD>
   <doublePrecision>0</doublePrecision>
   <pitch_alignment>256</pitch_alignment>
   <surface_alignment>256</surface_alignment>
   <maxResource1DWidth>16384</maxResource1DWidth>
   <maxResource2DWidth>16384</maxResource2DWidth>
   <maxResource2DHeight>16384</maxResource2DHeight>
   <CALVersion>1.4.1646</CALVersion>
    <atirt_detected/>
</coproc_ati>



Any additional related info, thread or people who might know something about these pseudo-XML files would be greatly appreciated.

All stat sites process the same files, you may ask them
316) Questions and Answers : Preferences : How to leave a team? (Message 1789215)
Posted 21 May 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
In your ACCOUNT at top-right:
"Member of team" XXXXXXXXXX · Quit team


how do I delete the duplicate post

Under post there is small red square - click it and ask moderator to hide
317) Message boards : Number crunching : GBT ('guppi') .vlar tasks will be send to GPUs, what you think about this? (Message 1788244)
Posted 18 May 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
And some would call this cherry-picking and SETI-unethical behavior. And I would agree this time.
There is another possibilities like task re-scheduling that will do the same w/o any harm to project itself.

@Raistmer
So where can WezH get the re-scheduling app from ... I don't think it's enough to just say it's a possibility without giving the solution.

Where WezH can? You don't think? So, start to.
Or now nasty things will be "in the wezH name"?

And regarding "app availability" - it's not so hard to devise it by yourself. But sure it will require few more brain cells than to press "abort" button

It may requires fewer brain cells to locate the old program still on the creators site. It does need updated to work with the current version, but a detailed step by step process was provided by someone else that uses it recently.

You mean this?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77586&postid=1763938#1763938

(Link to get boinc_rescheduler_2_7.zip and how to patch the .exe to work with setiathome_v8
If there was a box on the first tab (to choose/type application) as it exist on the second tab (for AstroPulse) this patch would not be needed.
)
318) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Bonic 7.6.22 no gpu ? (Message 1788134)
Posted 17 May 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Restart BOINC and post the first 40-50 lines from Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E)

Check/adjust:
1) Computing preferences
Store at least 3 days of work
Store up to an additional 0.1 days of work

(If you use Local preferences - make this change there (or revert to web Preferences))

2) SETI@home preferences
Use NVIDIA GPU [v]

3) Do not use Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) or Fast user switching
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_Desktop_Protocol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_user_switching
319) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Massive reduction in GPU processing speed - help needed (Message 1787900)
Posted 16 May 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Very Low Angle Range (VLAR) = WU recorded when the Telescope is looking at one point in the sky (dedicated observation) = most valuable data

"Normal" Angle Range (~0.42) = WU recorded when the Telescope is "not moving", just rotates with the Earth
- for 107 seconds (the time length of a WU) the Telescope passes 0.42° of the sky:
  (360/86400)*107 = 0.44°
[I'm not sure why in my mind "Normal" Angle Range is ~0.42 but this calculation gives 0.44° - maybe because 86400 seconds (24 h) is the period for Earth to turn again to the Sun and not to distant stars...]

Very High Angle Range (VHAR) = WU recorded when someone moves the Telescope fast through the sky (VHAR WUs are also known/called in this forum as "shorties", they take much less time to compute)

P.S.
If you want very technical explanation from one of the developers/programmers (why GPUs are slow on VLAR)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79418&postid=1787909#1787909
320) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Massive reduction in GPU processing speed - help needed (Message 1787737)
Posted 15 May 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
More head scratching!!!

If you want to read:
"Average Credit Decreasing?"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79418

"GBT ('guppi') .vlar tasks will be send to GPUs, what you think about this?"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79548
321) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Lenovo Y50-70 has two GPUs, BOINC only seems to see one at a time (Message 1787736)
Posted 15 May 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
And your log is?
Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E)
322) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Re: I want sound (Message 1787481)
Posted 14 May 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What "previous poster"?
(I know there are some that wanted this but we can't know what and where you read just before starting this thread)

For WU sound use SETIspirit (there is a menu at top-right)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76360&postid=1776655#1776655

http://www.setispirit.de/
http://www.setispirit.de/downloads.htm

P.S.
You probably mean this "i want sound" but it is from 13 Nov 2013
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73255
323) Questions and Answers : Wish list : no CPU load setting in BOINC GUI ? (Message 1787479)
Posted 14 May 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The Settings are the same:
Use at most N % of the CPUs
Use at most N % CPU time

Computing preferences
Local preferences

For more fine control (ms and not seconds pauses, set max temperature for CPU/GPU and Max CPU %) use:
TThrottle
324) Message boards : Number crunching : screen saver disappeared (Message 1775388)
Posted 31 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The SETI@home screensaver exists only for CPU tasks:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7944253&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1&appid=

Select Running "SETI@home v8 v8.00" task and click [Show graphics] to test
(GPU tasks/app "(opencl_ati....)" don't have graphics/screensaver)
325) Message boards : Number crunching : Question on EVGA GTX650ti (Message 1775381)
Posted 31 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Can't figure it out. I came down to check on the computer and it was running the one wu with no trouble...

If the computer clock/time go back tasks (app processes) stop (exit) but BOINC continue to show them "Running"
(at least this happens on BOINC 6.10.58 (and less), I don't know if this happens on current versions of BOINC)

Usually the scenario is:
- computer clock go too fast and after some time is too far in the future
- then Windows syncs time (from CMOS or Internet) to the correct (= for all programs this looks like "go back in time")

In this case:
- tasks (app processes) stop (exit) after 30 seconds
- BOINC continue to show them "Running"

- BOINC restarts the tasks after the "missing" time period expires


Can somebody test this on new BOINC?
E.g. set the computer clock 3 minutes back (and wait/look what happens in the next 5 minutes)
 
326) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Running SETI while using my computer? can I do that.. (Message 1775378)
Posted 31 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The Setting is not specific to SETI@home, it is global (for all projects, for BOINC)
Computing preferences

Uncheck:
"Suspend when computer is in use"
327) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Help (Message 1774953)
Posted 29 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Run down the cache first then use the uninstaller in the control panel add/Remove programs but make shore your finished all the units or they will be lost .

Bionic will just revert to stock


. . Thanks for that.

No, this person don't know how BOINC or Lunatics installer works (I have him in my ignore list because of nonsense posts)
("make shore" it is BOINC and not "Bionic")

Uninstalling Lunatics will revert to the last config - Not to stock
i.e. if you did several installations of Lunatics you will revert the applications and app_info.xml to the previous Lunatics installation and not to stock.

If you want to listen to someone listen to Richard
He writes the Lunatics installer
328) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Help (Message 1774945)
Posted 29 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
. . Also, recording cobblestone values for each completed task would have been helpful as well.

. . I doubt if there is an app that actually does those things but we tried :)

If by "cobblestone values" you mean this: flopcounter: 22194348195682.281000
- there is additional program in BoincTasks install directory:
BoincMonitor.exe

Run it and it will preserve stderr.txt for every task (and keep it for a period you select)
Edit monitor_config.xml to set the number of days to keep stderr.txt files (I use 7):
<config>
	<options>
		<stderr_out>	7	</stderr_out>
	</options>
</config>

<!-- 
Copy this file from the BoincTasks examples  to the exe location.

stderr_out keep a copy of stderr_out for a number of days, 0 will disable this feature.
-->
329) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Help (Message 1774809)
Posted 28 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
OK, I think I may have found the answer in the source code of the x264 project that the plug-in I'm using is based on.

247 /* 6/9 (pentium-m "banias"), 6/13 (pentium-m "dothan"), and 6/14 (core1 "yonah")
248 * theoretically support sse2, but it's significantly slower than mmx for
249 * almost all of x264's functions, so let's just pretend they don't. */

- so the detection doesn't work on Yonah (or banias/dothan)

Before I think up a way of kludging that, ...

You may just let user to override the detection by any of:
- checkbox in installer
- cmdline switch e.g. -test or -override_CPU or -NoCPUdetect or ...
- the same switch in some .ini file
330) Questions and Answers : Windows : How can I see what my little lap top has found ? (Message 1774786)
Posted 28 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You may try if you like SETIspirit
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76360

http://www.setispirit.de/
http://www.setispirit.de/downloads.htm
331) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : inconsistent gpu usage (Message 1774785)
Posted 28 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Could my PSU be the problem?

I tried enabling OC genie in the bois but the computer black screens under load, so Ive been running the FX-8350 at stock clocks

Its a 900w off brand psu I bought off ebay.

If this is no-brand PSU that really may be the problem.
They lie about the rated W by big margin

According to this graph just one ATI Radeon HD 5970 card makes full system to use 476 W
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5970,2474-15.html


But lets try some testing:
cc_config.xml

<ignore_ati_dev>N</ignore_ati_dev>
Ignore (don't use) a specific ATI GPU. You can ignore more than one.

N=0 will ignore (for BOINC use) GPU 0 (half of the first card)
Change 0 to 1 2 or 3 to ignore other GPUs

If any combination of 3 GPUs work it should be a weak PSU

If 3 GPUs also fail you may try to ignore any 2 GPUs:
<cc_config>

   <log_flags>
   </log_flags>

   <options>
      <ignore_ati_dev>0</ignore_ati_dev>
      <ignore_ati_dev>2</ignore_ati_dev>
   </options>

</cc_config>
332) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Lenovo Y50-70 has two GPUs, BOINC only seems to see one at a time (Message 1774759)
Posted 28 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
None of your computers show "a pair of" NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=10253250

Which means the second GPU was not detected by BOINC
Only after BOINC see the GPU may <use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus> have any effect.

There are 3 things you can try to make BOINC see the GPU
- connect Monitor to the second GPU

- connect "Dummy Plug" to the second GPU
"The 5-second VGA Dummy Plug"
http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=11

"The 30 Second Dummy Plug"
http://www.overclock.net/t/384733/the-30-second-dummy-plug

"Dummy Plugs for Graphics Cards"
http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=167450

Search:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Dummy+DVI+Connector

- "Extend Desktop" to the second GPU
333) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Hello, i am new here, i have some questions (Message 1774749)
Posted 28 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
From the top of the HOME page:
"What is SETI@home?
SETI@home is a scientific experiment that uses Internet-connected computers in the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI). You can participate by running a free program that downloads and analyzes radio telescope data."

No, you can't use ASIC because ASIC means "Application-specific integrated circuit"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application-specific_integrated_circuit

So ASIC developed for the specific purpose "Bitcoin Miner" (I think they calculate SHA-256) can't be used here.
(Only if someone develops ASIC for SETI@home (or at least for Fast Fourier Transform (FFT)) it may (someday) be used)


What Hardware/OS can be used (Applications available):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

More links with info (some are written >10 years ago - the look of the program is different but the principles are still relevant):
http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/about_seti/about_seti_at_home_1.html
http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/screensaver/index.html

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_glossary.php
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ap_faq.php


Team is per account, you are now in "Norway, Drammen"
Any computer/phone you attach/add to this account will automatically be also in the Team
(i.e. your account is in a Team, all devices that add credit to your account will also add the same credit to the Team)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=10294900
334) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Auto aborting ati (Message 1773391)
Posted 23 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I don't see all these tags listed in the wiki:
app_config.xml

"Note: The sections in square brackets '[foo/]' are optional"

You can use one of 2 formats:
<app_config>
    <app>
      <name>astropulse_v7</name>
      <gpu_versions>
          <gpu_usage>1</gpu_usage>
          <cpu_usage>1</cpu_usage>
      </gpu_versions>
    </app>
    <app>
      <name>setiathome_v8</name>
      <gpu_versions>
          <gpu_usage>1</gpu_usage>
          <cpu_usage>1</cpu_usage>
      </gpu_versions>
    </app>
</app_config>


<app_config>
   <app_version>
       <app_name>astropulse_v7</app_name>
       <ngpus>1</ngpus>
       <avg_ncpus>1</avg_ncpus>
   </app_version>
   <app_version>
       <app_name>setiathome_v8</app_name>
       <ngpus>1</ngpus>
       <avg_ncpus>1</avg_ncpus>
   </app_version>
</app_config>



My notes:
1) <max_concurrent>XX</max_concurrent> is not in square brackets but is optional

2) <gpu_usage> == <ngpus>
<cpu_usage> == <avg_ncpus>

(I don't know why they use different tags for the same purpose for the two formats)

3) no need to specify plan_class, version_num, platform - some of them are not even in the spec. And even if they are - if you specify them and they change in the future the app_config.xml will stop working (the section will be ignored)


P.S.
Which exact driver (Catalyst) do you use now?
e.g. give link, maybe this?:
http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/previous/detail?os=Windows%2010%20-%2064&rev=15.7.1

The page only lists "Display Driver" and not OpenCL but maybe it's included despite not listed.


From your tasks:
Version: OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1800.11)

And I don't see "1800.11" in "OCL" column so it looks like it is some Catalyst 15.7.1+ (but not Catalyst 15.11)
http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet.htm
335) Message boards : Number crunching : Resending of "Lost Tasks" has stopped all SETI processing on my computer. (Message 1773051)
Posted 21 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What would have caused BOINC to attempt to update global_prefs.xml on March 9, 2016, for the first time in four and a half years?

It will happen if you change Computing preferences on one of the projects
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global
https://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/prefs.php?subset=global
http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/prefs.php?subset=global

The last changed will be used and propagated (through your computer) to other projects

What do you see for:
Preferences last modified: 7 Jan 2011, 21:28:40 UTC

(on bottom on SETI@home and Einstein@Home, on top at MilkyWay@home)


P.S.
As a side note - I feel this as a bug in BOINC
If it finds one of its files to be Read-Only (or generally any reason for "unable to write") BOINC should say so and not give misleading Messages

The Message in this case should be something like "Can't open global_prefs.xml for write access" and not "can't parse scheduler reply"
336) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Added a project but.... (Message 1772880)
Posted 20 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It is not clear where and what do you look to find "any evidence"

For first "evidence" look in Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E)

E.g. for lines like these:

17/03/2016 07:59:32 Asteroids@home URL http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/; Computer ID 110; resource share 50
17/03/2016 07:59:32 Einstein@Home URL http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/; Computer ID 10647632; resource share 0
17/03/2016 07:59:32 Milkyway@Home URL http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/; Computer ID 564727; resource share 50
17/03/2016 07:59:32 orbit@home URL http://orbit.psi.edu/oah/; Computer ID 43546; resource share 5
17/03/2016 07:59:32 SETI@home URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 4832843; resource share 500
17/03/2016 07:59:32 SETI@home Beta Test URL http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/; Computer ID 72429; resource share 0
17/03/2016 07:59:32 WUProp@Home URL http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/; Computer ID 36712; resource share 1
..........
20/03/2016 19:24:53 SETI@home Requesting new tasks for GPU
20/03/2016 19:24:55 SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
20/03/2016 19:24:57 SETI@home Started download of 19dc10aa.10047.14840.14.41.18
20/03/2016 19:25:00 SETI@home Finished download of 19dc10aa.10047.14840.14.41.18


Also for any lines which appear to be errors
(I don't know about "Climate" project, what is the exact name and URL)
337) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Auto aborting ati (Message 1772819)
Posted 20 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
<type>ATI</type>
<count>0.1</count>

Do you know that 0.1 here means you want to run 10 tasks per GPU?!

(After you install driver with OpenCL GPU support) First try 1 task/GPU (<count>1</count>)
Then, if all is good, you may try if 2 tasks (0.5) or 3 tasks (0.33) give more tasks/day done. (tasks/day is not the proper measure but lets call for "more work done per day")
I doubt more than 3 tasks/GPU will be effective

For older drivers you may use this page (list, info, links):
http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet.htm


P.S.
I don't see any CAL application (Brook) in the current list:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php
338) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Best computer for Seti (Message 1772806)
Posted 20 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... didn't know how to attach the pic directly into the post ...

Open the image in new tab (have to be direct link to picture, not .html) - e.g. by Right-Click on picture -> Open image in new tab

(Note: api.viglink.com seems to not be "ideal" site, was blocked by 2 lists I use:
"uBlock Origin has prevented the following page from loading ...
Because of the following filter
||api.viglink.com^
Found in: hpHosts’ Ad and tracking servers • Dan Pollock’s hosts file
"
Also on WOT it is not too good:
https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/api.viglink.com
)


I think this is the picture you want?
http://core0.staticworld.net/images/article/2015/06/980tichart-100591314-orig.png
[img]http://core0.staticworld.net/images/article/2015/06/980tichart-100591314-orig.png[/img]

Use [img] the same way as you use [url]


339) Message boards : Number crunching : v8 issues on very old cruncher (Message 1772800)
Posted 20 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If you are in a mood to experiment - it may be possible under QEMU emulator but how "fast" (slow)...
http://qemu-manager.en.lo4d.com/
340) Message boards : Number crunching : Retro PC seti crunching (Message 1772789)
Posted 20 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'd really like to know how you got your posted app_info to show on the site nested?

When you see something like that - no need to ask.
Just press [Quote] under the post and see the code.

Edit:
Oops - I didn't see the first sentence from msattler
341) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Auto aborting ati (Message 1772787)
Posted 20 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
Check/post the Messages (e.g. the first ~100 lines) from Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E)


I edited the xml for .25 for 4 WU and .1 to allow a core per task to feed the gpu's

".25 for 4 WU" means 4 WUs per GPU = 16 GPU tasks total
".1" (<avg_ncpus>0.1</avg_ncpus>) will not "allow a core per task", will allow a core per 10 tasks
342) Message boards : Number crunching : Can I further optimize multiple GPU calculations? (Message 1772572)
Posted 19 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
May I ask a few more clarifications?
The <cpu_usage> is not used by (GPU) applications, they use as much CPU time as they need no matter what value you set for <cpu_usage>

<cpu_usage> is only used by BOINC - to decide if it should run less CPU tasks so GPU tasks/apps have enough free CPU

This is still confusing to me. Doesn't this mean <cpu_usage> value affect GPU application since it is deciding how much free CPU is allocated to GPU tasks?
If GPU application uses as much CPU time as they need, why do we need to free up CPU core?

What do you mean by "it is deciding"?
It reads like "value ... is deciding" and value itself can't decide ;)

If you mean "GPU application ... is deciding" it is not.
Apps don't know about the value and can't restrict themselves to use less CPU (or "unleash" themselves to use more CPU if you give them freedom by bigger value)

Even if they know about the value I doubt there is a easy way for them (for programmers) to monitor their CPU usage and do pauses to fit under the value you select.
And "pauses" on the CPU part of the GPU app will mean no new data and code for GPU part (no "feed" for GPU) = lower GPU load and longer Run time - most users will not like it.

The CPU usage of GPU app is not only by the app itself but also from the driver (sometimes mostly by the driver)

BOINC also can't restrict (throttle) CPU apps to make/force them use less CPU to free e.g. 30% of a core
This will mean BOINC to manage processes on thread level (pause computing thread for 30% of the time in ms intervals)
I think TThrottle can do that. (looking in Process Explorer what happens with processes' threads)

BOINC can pause the processes on seconds intervals
E.g. if set "Use at most 70% of CPU time" will let the processes run for 7 seconds and pause them for 3 seconds


i7-3930K with 3 x GTX 670, <GPU_usage>.33, <cpu_usage>.04

For this system with 3 GPUs <cpu_usage>.4 will make BOINC to:
3 GPUs * 3 GPU tasks * 0.4 = 3.6 = (truncated to) 3 = BOINC will run 3 less CPU task (will "free 3 CPU cores")


Here, 3 GPUs * 3 GPU tasks * 0.04 =0.36 = (truncated to) 0
But my PC only runs 11 CPU tasks, not 12.
I'm not restricting CPU usage and set as 100% of the CPUs and CPU time.

You posted earlier:
"I decided to start my experiment blindly but with Sidewinder's observation by increasing CPU usage to 0.4 for now and keep accumulating data. "
That's why I used 0.4 and not 0.04

For "only runs 11 CPU tasks, not 12" and "found that if I run 8 GPU tasks, all 12 CPU tasks run at the same time but not with 9 GPU tasks (<cpu_usage>.04)."
- maybe another limit is reached, probably on RAM ("When computer is in use, use at most" - try 99% - some tasks need more RAM on startup)

Try the effect of <cpu_usage>0.001
If again you see 11 CPU tasks this have to be caused by another limit

Also 11+9 = 8+12 = 20 so you may have some forgotten <max_concurrent>20</max_concurrent> in
app_config.xml


There have to exist some debug log flag you can set so BOINC will tell why it decided to run one less CPU task but I'm not sure which flag
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration#Logging_flags

They (Logging Flags) can be set by Options -> Event Log options (Ctrl+Shift+F)
BOINC Manager Menu


If you want just a fixed number of free CPU cores (no matter if and how many GPU tasks run) you may just:
1) set <cpu_usage>0.001
2) "Use at most XX% of the CPUs"
11/12 = 0.91666666666666666666666666666667
10/12 = 0.83333333333333333333333333333333

So any value 84% ... 91% will free 2 "cores" of 12
(I think these are virtual/Hyper-Threading "cores" (of course BOINC don't care if they are real or virtual, if the OS say "you have 12" BOINC will not disagree ;) ))
 
343) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Best computer for Seti (Message 1772395)
Posted 18 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
is there some list of top computers, from where I can compare my machine with others?

On the HOME page look at Top-Right
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/top_hosts.php


Is there important powerful gpu or cpu or something else

You may compute on whatever you have (even Android phone)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php


When I check computer information, there is 'measured floating point speed' and 'measured integer speed'. Are these important numbers? How are these numbers calculated

Not really "important numbers" - this is from BOINC benchmark (which is based on very old code)
These numbers are used by BOINC to decide initially how many tasks to ask from servers and what estimated times to show
(estimated times are very wrong at the beginning, may be 5x more of the real needed time)

You can do BOINC benchmark manually from Tools menu:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Advanced_view#BOINC_Manager_Menus


The more real numbers are from SETI@home applications
On your computer page:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7957662

if you click:
Application details Show
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=7957662

you will see:
Average processing rate
344) Message boards : Number crunching : Can I further optimize multiple GPU calculations? (Message 1772388)
Posted 18 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If I change CPU usage assignment, will it affect Run time?
And does it affect credit?

No and no

The <cpu_usage> is not used by (GPU) applications, they use as much CPU time as they need no matter what value you set for <cpu_usage>

<cpu_usage> is only used by BOINC - to decide if it should run less CPU tasks so GPU tasks/apps have enough free CPU

The value is "part of a CPU core" (1 = full core, .04 = 4% of core ("core" as a device))

So if you change <cpu_usage>.04 to <cpu_usage>.33 this will Not have any effect (for computer which have one GPU):
3 GPU tasks * 0.33 cpu_usage = 0.99 = (truncated to) 0
= BOINC will act "normally" - the same as if <cpu_usage>0.001
BOINC will Not run one less CPU task (will Not "free a CPU core") - will start/run as many CPU tasks as the number of CPU cores (threads) (if you "Use at most 100% of the CPUs" in Preferences)

If you change to <cpu_usage>.34 -
3 GPU tasks * 0.34 = 1.02 = (truncated to) 1 = BOINC will run one less CPU task (will "free a CPU core")

Any value 0.34 ... 0.66 will free 1 CPU core
0.67 will free 2 CPU cores (for 3 GPU tasks running)

Free CPU cores may/will affect Run time for GPU tasks and so affect credit/day


Sadly I even don't know what CPU usage of 0.4 means, i.e., is this the upper limit, average, time, threads or something else?

Again - the applications don't know what you use for <cpu_usage>, only BOINC knows
BOINC can't restrict GPU apps by "upper limit, average, time, threads" - once the app is started it uses CPU GPU RAM ... as it needs

So CPU usage of 0.4 means (is hint) for BOINC that one running GPU app will need 40% of a CPU core ("thread" (virtual CPU) if you use Hyper-Threading)
BOINC sums all the <cpu_usage> numbers from the currently running apps
Then truncates to integer (1.99999 -> 1) and reduces by that number the started CPU tasks (i.e. instead of 4 will start 3 CPU tasks)


i7-3930K with 3 x GTX 670, <GPU_usage>.33, <cpu_usage>.04

For this system with 3 GPUs <cpu_usage>.4 will make BOINC to:
3 GPUs * 3 GPU tasks * 0.4 = 3.6 = (truncated to) 3 = BOINC will run 3 less CPU task (will "free 3 CPU cores")
345) Message boards : Number crunching : Resending of "Lost Tasks" has stopped all SETI processing on my computer. (Message 1772373)
Posted 18 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Also check the date/time of client_state.xml - it should be current (last minutes)
If the date/time is old - something is preventing BOINC to update the file
(The list of tasks and their state is saved in client_state.xml)

If this is the case - You can try to diagnose what is locking files by OpenedFilesView
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/opened_files_view.html

Start OpenedFilesView - Options -> Enable Explorer Context Menu
Then Right-Click on BOINC Data directory -> OpenedFilesView

I tested that if I start scan by ESET NOD32 Antivirus on BOINC Data directory I can see how ekrn.exe opens files (in addition of what is shown opened by BOINC and applications)
346) Message boards : Number crunching : Resending of "Lost Tasks" has stopped all SETI processing on my computer. (Message 1772366)
Posted 18 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Hi, BilBg.
I have looked in the sched_reply_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml file, but I am not familiar with the format and meaning of much of it. Are you indicating that the "can't parse scheduler reply" log entry means there might be one or more errors in that file?

If so, I will be happy to look for it and/or send you a copy of any portion you might like to look at. Just let me know.

Also, I completely disabled my Antivirus progam and even removed it's tasks via Task Manager before running this log debugging test.

Thank you.

"can't parse scheduler reply" should mean that something is broken in sched_reply_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml
(Or that BOINC can't read the file (locked by some program/Antivirus)?)

(I think) There are no secret numbers/passwords in that file so you may post it.
- the file should be at least a few KB (>4 KB, more if many tasks are listed inside)
- do you see "garbage" inside (random bytes and not normal text)
- do you see the start and end tags - <scheduler_reply> ....... </scheduler_reply>

The file generated by "my" BOINC 6.10.58 is in Unix format (lines end with LF only and not CR LF pair as is normal in Windows txt files (Hex bytes: 0A vs 0D 0A))

If you open it in Hex Editor you will see that:
http://mh-nexus.de/en/hxd/
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/hxd-hex-editor/

The first 3 bytes in the file are: 3C 73 63
The last 3 bytes in the file are: 79 3E 0A


Notepad on Windows XP don't show properly the contents of such Unix format files. (I don't know how it is in Notepad on Windows 7)
Use WordPad to view it or in Total Commander - F3 View

Also you may open it in Notepad, Ctrl+A Ctrl+C
then Paste it here and use [Preview] button


The begin, middle and end parts of my file:

<scheduler_reply>
<scheduler_version>707</scheduler_version>
<master_url>http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/</master_url>
<request_delay>303.000000</request_delay>
<project_name>SETI@home</project_name>
<userid>8647488</userid>
<user_name>BilBg</user_name>
<user_total_credit>8364300.788144</user_total_credit>
<user_expavg_credit>2632.155614</user_expavg_credit>
<user_create_time>1180238970</user_create_time>
<email_hash>8e1f6d6c1ab4b885675a1380f02bdc76</email_hash>
<cross_project_id>a17b67279735ec43b9e7fa50c4a438b6</cross_project_id>
<external_cpid>7857e9fc356c31d5b09ecae27eb45005</external_cpid>
<project_preferences>
<resource_share>100</resource_share>
<no_cpu>0</no_cpu>
<no_ati>0</no_ati>
<no_cuda>0</no_cuda>
<no_intel_gpu>0</no_intel_gpu>
<project_specific>
<format_preset>Custom</format_preset>
<text_style>Pillars</text_style>
.......
</project_preferences>
<host_total_credit>7686494.755550</host_total_credit>
<host_expavg_credit>2186.264010</host_expavg_credit>
<host_venue>school</host_venue>
<host_create_time>1236538278</host_create_time>
<teamid>113069</teamid>
<team_name>HardwareBG SETI Team</team_name>
<file_info>
<name>11se10ac.30643.268094.9.36.20</name>
<url>http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/e2/11se10ac.30643.268094.9.36.20</url>
<md5_cksum>81a1f3f86deebb02bbca58ed70609935</md5_cksum>
<nbytes>365937</nbytes>
</file_info>
<workunit>
<rsc_fpops_est>12732822372294.474609</rsc_fpops_est>
<rsc_fpops_bound>254656447445889.500000</rsc_fpops_bound>
<rsc_memory_bound>33554432.000000</rsc_memory_bound>
<rsc_disk_bound>33554432.000000</rsc_disk_bound>
<name>11se10ac.30643.268094.9.36.20</name>
<app_name>setiathome_v8</app_name>
<file_ref>
<file_name>11se10ac.30643.268094.9.36.20</file_name>
<open_name>work_unit.sah</open_name>
</file_ref>
</workunit>
.......
<file_ref>
<file_name>sah_banner_290.png</file_name>
<open_name>slideshow_astropulse_v6_02</open_name>
</file_ref>
</project_files>

</scheduler_reply>
347) Message boards : Number crunching : Resending of "Lost Tasks" has stopped all SETI processing on my computer. (Message 1772215)
Posted 17 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
17-Mar-2016 14:16:19 [SETI@home] [sched_op] Reason: can't parse scheduler reply

Did you check what is in sched_reply_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml
Did you check your Antivirus logs in case it interferes?
348) Questions and Answers : Windows : unable to upload WU's (Message 1772171)
Posted 17 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
17/03/2016 12:44:56 | | Using HTTP proxy swanlb001:8080

The problem should be the proxy, can't you avoid it? (i.e. use direct connection)

Two ideas to try:

- see if VPN will help to Upload/Download (SecurityKISS is free for 300 MB/day, you only select server, no any complicated Settings)
https://www.securitykiss.com/


- set HTTP 1.0 in cc_config.xml

<http_1_0>0|1</http_1_0>
Set this flag to use HTTP 1.0 instead of 1.1 (this may be needed with some proxies).
cc_config.xml

<cc_config>

   <log_flags>
   </log_flags>

   <options>
      <http_1_0>1</http_1_0>
   </options>

</cc_config>
349) Questions and Answers : Windows : ERROR: unsupported OpenCL runtime version (Message 1772153)
Posted 17 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Should I simply go to the "Current Driver Download" for 64-bit Win7 in the bottom table?

I will suggest No
You GPU is a few years old model and the last "Current Driver Download" may:
- work slow
- not have a OpenCL part (= will not be able to do calculations/Computing)
- may not work at all
- may even refuse to install

(I'm on Windows XP and for my AMD ATI Radeon HD 6570 I use Catalyst 11.12)

Your driver 1.4.1417 corresponds to Catalyst 11.6
Older Catalyst versions (<11.12) are listed on "full version list":
http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet_full.htm


On the page here your GPU is shown as what BOINC detected:
AMD Radeon HD 6200/6300/7200/7300 series (Wrestler)

What is the real/exact model?
If you don't know use GPU-Z or GPU Caps Viewer:
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/

Is this GPU embedded in the CPU?:
AMD E-450 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics


You may try Catalyst 12.1 (it have the minimum required driver "SDK 2.6")
The link is from "ATI Driver Version Cheat Sheet":
http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/previous/detail?os=Windows%207%20-%2064&rev=12.1

Old drivers before Catalyst 12.1 were deleted from the ATI AMD site ~year ago.
So if some driver works OK - keep the setup so you can re-install the driver in the future if needed.
http://www2.ati.com/drivers/12-1_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc.exe


In the Catalyst 12.1 setup (in CX132103.inf (the setup .exe can be opened by 7-Zip)) are listed these models for AMD Radeon HD 6200/6300

AMD68F9.4 = "ATI Radeon HD 6230"
AMD68E1.12 = "ATI Radeon HD 6230"
AMD68F9.5 = "ATI Radeon HD 6250"
AMD68E1.13 = "ATI Radeon HD 6250"
AMD68F9.6 = "ATI Radeon HD 6290"
AMD68F9.7 = "ATI Radeon HD 6350"
AMD68E1.14 = "ATI Radeon HD 6350"
AMD68DA.1 = "ATI Radeon HD 6390"

AMD68E1.23 = "ATI Radeon HD 6230"
AMD68F9.17 = "ATI Radeon HD 6230"
AMD68F9.18 = "ATI Radeon HD 6350"
AMD68F9.19 = "ATI Radeon HD 6350"
AMD68F9.20 = "ATI Radeon HD 6350"
AMD68F9.21 = "ATI Radeon HD 6350 Graphics"
AMD68DA.4 = "ATI Radeon HD 6390"

AMD68E1.26 = "AMD Radeon HD 6230"

AMD68F9.29 = "ATI Radeon HD 6230"
AMD68F9.30 = "ATI Radeon HD 6250"
AMD68F9.31 = "ATI Radeon HD 6290"
AMD68F9.32 = "ATI Radeon HD 6350"
AMD68E1.28 = "ATI Radeon HD 6350"
AMD68DA.8 = "ATI Radeon HD 6390"

AMD68F9.33 = "ATI Radeon HD 6230"

AMD68F9.34 = "ATI Radeon HD 6250"
AMD68F9.35 = "ATI Radeon HD 6290"

AMD9803.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6250 Graphics"
AMD9805.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6250 Graphics"
AMD9807.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6290 Graphics"
AMD9802.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics"
AMD9804.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics"
AMD9806.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6320 Graphics"
AMD9642.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6370D"


But since now Catalyst 11.6 works (for display/games/graphics) your GPU should be supported by Catalyst 12.1


If you want to know which is the last good working driver for your GPU - ask in Number Crunching
350) Message boards : Number crunching : How do I get my video card to process more work units? (Message 1771474)
Posted 14 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Can you tell me what this file and the individual settings will do specifically

Read:
app_config.xml

The posted version will do one of the following combinations (only for GPU tasks):
2 SETI@home tasks (<gpu_usage>0.4</gpu_usage> so 0.4 + 0.4 < 1)
1 AstroPulse + 1 SETI@home tasks (0.6 + 0.4 = 1 GPU)
1 AstroPulse task (if no GPU SETI@home tasks exist)

<cpu_usage>0.4</cpu_usage> will do nothing:
as only 2 GPU tasks run 0.4 + 0.4 = 0.8 = 0 = no CPU core will be free
The sum have to be >= 1 for BOINC to run one less CPU task
 
351) Message boards : Number crunching : Retro PC seti crunching (Message 1771442)
Posted 13 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I was able to get the K6-2+ to successfully complete a work unit under Windows 7. Since then, I've ditched Windows 7 and gone with Windows 2000 SP4 (much more usable on the old system - posting from it now, in fact). I have two questions/problems.

First, I managed to get one of the remaining version 7 work units, but the progress is stuck at 0.0% even after 13+ hours of run time. I'm using the exact same app_info, executable, and dll that I did under Windows 7 (see previous thread). The elapsed time continues to run but interestingly, if I exit and restart BOINC, the time starts back at 00:00.

The app is hang in 'Optimal function choice' routine
Read my posts here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75617&postid=1571978#1571978

My words: "It happens in 30-40% at start/restart of tasks on my K6-2+ but only when it is booted in Windows 2000
When the same system runs in Windows 98 it never happens
The BOINC and SETI@home files are the same (same BOINC Program and Data directories used, same tasks continue to run)"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75617&postid=1575843#1575843


Second question is if there is any way to get the version 8 app to process on the 586 architecture? I tried modifying app_info to use the version 8 app with the older dll to no avail

I didn't try SETI@home v8 on that computer:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=3412467


But looking in the Lunatics_Win32_v0.44_setup.exe (which have the stock SETI@home v8 CPU app inside)

From setiathome_8.00.aistub
<app_info>
    <app>
        <name>setiathome_v8</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>setiathome_8.00_windows_intelx86.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>libfftw3f-3-3-4_x86.dll</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>



So try yet another copy of the old DLL (libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll) renamed to:
libfftw3f-3-3-4_x86.dll
 
In fact I will suggest to have 3 files (all are the same file, only names different)
libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll
libfftw3f-3-3_upx.dll
libfftw3f-3-3-4_x86.dll

(in case the DLL file try to open/call itself by its original filename (I had this happen with other DLLs (it was for some game I think?)))
 
352) Questions and Answers : Windows : ERROR: unsupported OpenCL runtime version (Message 1771397)
Posted 13 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This computer is still spending a significant amount of time on GPU tasks that then error off due to OpenCL level.

This "significant amount of time" seems to be (for your GPU/driver) only 5 minutes/task:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7934995&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=


I'm surprised that there isn't a central list of specific drivers that are known to work for each GPU model

And who will make that list?

There is "ATI Driver Version Cheat Sheet" made by one of the users (HAL9000):
http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet.htm

As you can see: "Cat 11.12 Is the minimum required driver for current applications."


I don't know what is your GPU model/OS - people which know technical details about driver versions best for a given GPU model/OS post in Number Crunching
353) Questions and Answers : Windows : communication with server (Message 1771396)
Posted 13 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Every 5 min my PC contact the boinc-server.

And you can see the reason in Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E) - maybe something like this:

13/03/2016 19:17:06 SETI@home Requesting new tasks for GPU

This (if BOINC will ask for work) depend on your two Settings for "days of work":
set on web: Computing preferences
or locally: Local preferences

Set e.g. 3+1 days and BOINC will ask for work maybe one time per day
BOINC will also report completed tasks in hour after upload


The question remains why you don't like "Every 5 min my PC contact the boinc-server"
What do you see as bad with that?
354) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Is it possible to set a custom background? (Message 1771355)
Posted 13 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
OK, I tried to find the "mysteries" behind 'URL of background image'
(I use optimized applications which have no graphics so I never used background image)

* 1) I set your 'URL of background image' (https://webfiles.uci.edu/sclancy/setipix/Enterprise-star-trek-the-original-series-3984959-1024-768.jpg)

After [Update] from BOINC Manager:
- in Event Log (you can find the lines in stdoutdae.txt or stdoutdae.old):

13/03/2016 13:24:43 SETI@home Started download of background_1457867983
13/03/2016 13:24:44 Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
13/03/2016 13:24:44 SETI@home Temporarily failed download of background_1457867983: HTTP error
13/03/2016 13:24:44 SETI@home Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of background_1457867983
13/03/2016 13:24:45 Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
13/03/2016 13:25:27 SETI@home File background_1457867983 exists already, skipping download


- New lines appeared in account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml

<app_file>
<timestamp>1457867983</timestamp>
<open_name>background</open_name>
<url>https://webfiles.uci.edu/sclancy/setipix/Enterprise-star-trek-the-original-series-3984959-1024-768.jpg</url>
</app_file>


- The file "Downloaded" was background_1457867983 and have zero size (0 bytes)

- the site (webfiles.uci.edu) have "bad" Certificate
- I tried to change from https to http but the site (webfiles.uci.edu) automatically changes to https


* 2) I set http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/user_images/SETI_TREK.jpg

File background_1457869042 was Downloaded with correct size/contents (identical to SETI_TREK.jpg)


* 3) To avoid the https error from webfiles.uci.edu I go to:
http://postimage.org/

Click 'Web' on the first line ("Upload images:")
Copy/Paste to the box: https://webfiles.uci.edu/sclancy/setipix/Enterprise-star-trek-the-original-series-3984959-1024-768.jpg
Click [Upload It!]

This generated the following 'Direct Link':
http://s7.postimg.org/82b8wrumz/Enterprise_star_trek_the_original_series_3984959.jpg

I used that link for 'URL of background image'
File background_1457869574 was Downloaded with correct size/contents


Moral: try to use http and check that background_xxxxxxxxx was Downloaded OK


* 4) To see the new background for running tasks: Snooze / un-Snooze (or any other way to restart apps)
- this "refreshes" init_data.xml (in 'slots') so the running/restarted apps/tasks will know about the change.
New lines in init_data.xml (which appeared after Snooze / un-Snooze):

<app_file>
<timestamp>1457869574</timestamp>
<open_name>background</open_name>
<url>http://s7.postimg.org/82b8wrumz/Enterprise_star_trek_the_original_series_3984959.jpg</url>
</app_file>
355) Message boards : Number crunching : SETIspirit News & Updates (a free BOINC add-on) (Message 1770765)
Posted 10 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
   Bug report (SETIspirit v3.3.6):

Symptom:
"Garbage" shown in the top part of main window

From SETIspirit.ini

[BOINC Environment]
Host=Host Name: bil-comp
OS=OS: <operating system>
BoincClient=BOINC Client Version: ome] Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
BoincCMDClient=C:\Programs.Bil\Science\BOINC\boinccmd.exe
BoincDataDir=C:\Programs.Bil\Science\BOINC-Data\
DataDirectory=Data Directory: :59:28 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
CPU=Processor: <cpu>
Memory=Memory: <memory>
Disk=Disk: <disk>
GPU=GPU: no usable GPU's found!
OpenCL=OpenCL: not found


Test:
Exiting SETIspirit,
deleting (moving) SETIspirit.ini
and starting SETIspirit again
- generates new SETIspirit.ini with exactly the same "Garbage" lines in [BOINC Environment] section


Cause:
stdoutdae.txt do not have any line with "Starting BOINC client"
(stdoutdae.old and stdoutdae.archiv have many such lines)


Scenario:
BOINC was running for a month (SETIspirit was not running)
During that time stdoutdae.txt reached the max (8 MB per my Settings) and was renamed by BOINC to stdoutdae.old
New stdoutdae.txt was ~700 KB and did not contain lines with "Starting BOINC client"

Starting SETIspirit in this condition revealed the issue.


Remedy:
Exit SETIspirit
Restart BOINC
Start SETIspirit again

- this "fixed" the issue as now stdoutdae.txt contain line with "Starting BOINC client" (and the next info about OS, CPU, GPU, ...)
356) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Is it possible to set a custom background? (Message 1770660)
Posted 10 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
none of the solutions posed seem to work for me.

The Exact "URL of background image" you try to use?
i.e. Copy/Paste from your SETI@home preferences
357) Questions and Answers : Windows : Resource Share (Message 1769159)
Posted 3 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What preferences do i have to set for Atlas and VLHC to only run one task per project, but simultanously?

You can try max_concurrent in app_config.xml

You will need 2 files app_config.xml put in corresponding projects' directory
<app_config>
   <project_max_concurrent>1</project_max_concurrent>
</app_config>



If you want to be specific (for one app):
<app_config>
   <app>
      <name>Application_Name</name>
      <max_concurrent>1</max_concurrent>
   </app>
</app_config>


You'll need to find and Copy/Paste the correct "Application_Name" (for ATLAS@Home and vLHCathome) from some line in Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E)

It is shown when "Starting task ..." from a project between the words "using" and "version", e.g.:
03-Mar-2016 08:10:45 [SETI@home] Starting task ap_14se15aa_B1_P1_00320_20160224_13767.wu_2 using astropulse_v7 version 709
02-Mar-2016 23:17:52 [WUProp@Home] Starting task data_collect_v4_1454745134_644345_0 using data_collect_v4 version 420
30-Dec-2015 22:04:10 [Asteroids@home] Starting task ps_151219_input_846_65_2 using period_search version 10210
 
358) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Can I Block Someone? (Message 1766591)
Posted 21 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Go to Community preferences
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/edit_forum_preferences_form.php

At bottom: Filtered users [   ] User ID (For instance: 123456789)

E.g. if I want to block you I will Copy/Paste in the box your User ID 8602520

It is part of the link when you click on user name:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=8602520
359) Questions and Answers : Windows : GPU Limit is not following CPU limit set in preferences. (Message 1765877)
Posted 17 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Only by limiting the max GPU temperature by:
TThrottle
360) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Understanding tasks (Message 1765869)
Posted 17 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
"Results" seem to be something countable, but they don't appear to correspond 1-for-1 with work units. What is a "result"?

Only people at the lab like to call tasks "Results" (even if the task is still not sent to anybody)
See the explanations on the bottom of this page:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html

e.g.:
"Results ready to send: For each workunit, results are generated that are then sent out to individual users to be executed"

... should be read as:
"Tasks ready to send: For each workunit, tasks are generated that are then sent out to individual users to be executed"

But "Results returned and awaiting validation" are really "Results" - task was computed and Result file sent back to server


A "task" is one copy of the "Workunit", at least 2 tasks are generated from 1 Workunit so the 2 Result files can be compared - some computers are not reliable and produce wrong numbers (heat, Overclock, low voltage, ...)

All tasks from the same Workunit are identical data files.
361) Message boards : Number crunching : screen capture software (Message 1765261)
Posted 15 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I use MSI Afterburner to record games but it also (sometimes?) work for recording Desktop (by hot-key)

Try also:
CamStudio - Free Screen Recording Software
http://camstudio.org/

EDIT:
They seem to bundle ad-ware with some of the Downloads (ESET NOD32 Antivirus say "a variant of Win32/InstallCore.ACZ potentially unwanted application")
DON'T use the Green [Download] buttons or the links bellow them!

For clean installer Use - at bottom of page the link to MajorGeeks
http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/camstudio.html

Which (CamStudio_2.7_r316_setup.exe) is clean:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/89fa3371206f7d21ffdf0caaf7107532b24838db3ea2d62c287a6f8dab21cba5/analysis/
362) Message boards : Number crunching : Anything relating to AstroPulse tasks (Message 1764602)
Posted 13 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This ERROR should be the same no matter if original or patched version.
(I remember similar reports ("Unable to make copy") also for SetiPerformance)

On Expert tab:
- check if BOINC Data directory is found OK (if not - set it manually)
- make manually and set some other Temp folder, e.g.:
C:\eFMer\BoincScheduler\

Don't try [Run] before [Test] is OK
Better exit BOINC manually before using [Run] button


I changed Astropulse_V6 Astropulse_V7 in version: box.

I'm not sure if Astropulse_V7 will work, make it:
astropulse_v7


changes from V7 to 8 appear to have worked as it displays Seti V8

Again: the patch is only for SETI@home, it will not affect AstroPulse

So the next info is only for SETI@home v8 tasks (the first tab):

The "Seti V8" text is just the name of the tab, do not affect functionality.
The important part is to change the string setiathome_enhanced to setiathome_v8

BOINC Rescheduler searches for those strings (setiathome_v8 astropulse_v7) in client_state.xml

If all is OK - on the first tab using [Test] will show the number of tasks:
Total #
VLAR #
VHAR #

If you have SETI@home v8 tasks but all numbers after [Test] are 0 - the patch from setiathome_enhanced to setiathome_v8 was not done correctly.

As BOINC Rescheduler can be run from any directory it will be convenient to make some sub directories e.g.
C:\eFMer\BOINC_Rescheduler\Original
C:\eFMer\BOINC_Rescheduler\Patch-1
C:\eFMer\BOINC_Rescheduler\Patch-2

You copy the Original .exe to Patch-2 and try again if needed.

The resulting string should be setiathome_v8 - Not SetiatHome_V8
Must end with 00 byte, Not spaces (which will look as 20 20 20 ... <- WRONG)
363) Message boards : Number crunching : Anything relating to AstroPulse tasks (Message 1764150)
Posted 11 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
now cannot open the application. Thanks again for your assistance.
The application isn't recognised by PC

You changed some byte in wrong place, or used Ctrl+V which changes the size of the file which is bad for .exe (use Ctrl+B instead)
I always compare the original to the edited file to see differences and if they are OK

Delete this bad .exe
Just unpack again the boinc_rescheduler_2_7.zip
364) Message boards : Number crunching : 30th January 2016 , workunits not recognized (Message 1763954)
Posted 10 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I got shocked, first reaction was to detach the project, now the tasks are all ABORTED.

They are "Abandoned" which is different term.
What did you expect the detach will do? - it removes all traces of the project from computer

I'm not sure if BOINC tells the server you did a detach/Remove
If yes - then they are marked "Abandoned" at that moment
If not - they are marked "Abandoned" at the moment you attach/Add again the project
365) Message boards : Number crunching : Error download failed (Message 1763941)
Posted 10 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Wireless connection, so no Lan cables

Wireless for all computers?


All the computers are on the same network, but only one have this problem since the release from the version 8 stockapp for NVIDIA GPU.

Try to Copy the files (all .exe that have 'cuda' in name) from another computer.
BOINC should see them and not try to Download again.
Do not reset the project. (as it will delete all files)


Bullguard internet security 2016 (version 16.0.314.4), all with the same settings.

Never heard of BullGuard - it is not used by VirusTotal:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/652a4c3ea58420c7ac3efce2df9df557f6f0bdaa60c66a7ee44764228b941a6b/analysis/

But I see "interesting" name - Key people: Nedko Ivanov (CEO) - this name is Bulgarian ;)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BullGuard

If the above "Copy the files" do not work - try to disable Antivirus for a few minutes until BOINC try again to Download those files (look in Event Log)


Another test - get this file (Lunatics_Win64_v0.44_setup.exe - 26 MB)
http://lunatics.kwsn.info/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=475

The file is clean installer (NSIS - based on 7-Zip compression)
It have inside all the CUDA apps (+more)
Scan it with your Antivirus - will it find something?
 
366) Message boards : Number crunching : Anything relating to AstroPulse tasks (Message 1763938)
Posted 10 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thanks TBar, this is a fraction too involved me I think I would crash the task. I am pleased this works for you

I successfully managed to change this task from CPU to my ATI card however in the process I lost a considerable amount of work from another project. I did exit Boinc before saving changes in the appropriate file

BOINC Rescheduler still works (I even patched it to work with SETI@home v8, but for AstroPulse it don't need patch)
Why not use it? (if you after all are already inclined to Reschedule manually)

A good question you raise. I was looking for this yesterday and was unable to find and download. Are you able to provide a download link

http://www.efmer.eu/download/boinc/scheduler/boinc_rescheduler_2_7.zip

"BOINC Rescheduler - How to patch for SETI@home v7"
http://pastebin.com/a635m8CW

Change 7 to 8 in:

setiathome_enhanced -> setiathome_v8
Seti Enhanced -> SETI@home v8
Seti EH -> Seti v8

 

Thanks for links. Could you please let me know what lines I need to change as I can't find the pacific lines I need to change. This is most likely because I can't read programming code. I'm using the problem recommended in the guide.

In regards to if I just wanted to reschedule APs will work without needing changes?

"what lines I need to change" - they are not lines

Get HxD (link in pastebin.com)
Open by HxD: BOINC Rescheduler.exe or BOINC Rescheduler64.exe
You will see bytes as Hex at left and the same bytes as Text at right - use [Tab]

1) Ctrl+F for setiathome_enhanced (which you Copy/Paste from here)
Type over _enhanced to become _v8hanced
use [Tab]
At left over bytes type 00 00 00 00 00 00 so hanced disappear at right

Cosmetic:
2) Ctrl+Home
Ctrl+F for Seti Enhanced
Ctrl+B with SETI@home v8

3) For the last line/string ("Seti EH" - which is the name of the tab) switch to Unicode
Ctrl+Home
Ctrl+F for Seti EH (check Unicode)
(you will find something like S e t i  E H)
Over E type v
Over H type 8

Ctrl+S


What means?:
"I can't find the pacific lines"
"I'm using the problem recommended in the guide"


For AstroPulse no need change in .exe - only change in BOINC Rescheduler (in the box on AstroPulse tab):
astropulse_v6 to astropulse_v7
 
367) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1763596)
Posted 9 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I still use Windows Media Player... I wouldn't trade it for another media player, at least as far as music is concerned.

Do they still use Ctrl+P for Pause and [Space] do nothing? (as is on XP)
I use Media Player Classic (K-Lite_Codec_Pack_710_Mega - 2011), VLC media player, Daum Potplayer (for video/movies) and Winamp 5.51 2007 for MP3
368) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1763594)
Posted 9 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
They do Not update automatically as Chrome do (the auto-update was the main reason I stopped using Google Chrome years ago)

Although I don't often use Google Chrome, I do keep it on my system for those rare occasions when I run into a problem with Firefox on a particular web page. However, I have the Chrome update function disabled through the Task Scheduler. There seem to be two Goggle tasks in the Task Scheduler Library, "GoogleUpdateTaskMachineCore" and "GoogleUpdateTaskMachineUA". I've got both disabled.

Google Chrome still sits here on version 7 :)

It was not that simple to stop its desire to update (at any time, not asking for permission, even if not started for months)

It have 3-4 ways to start the Updater:
From "Run" in Registry (when the user logs-in)
By "Scheduled Tasks" - 2 tasks with multiple triggers
By Services
(?) When you start Google Chrome (not sure about that, was long ago) or looking in "About Google Chrome" (was window, not tab, if you remember)

If you forget to Disable one of them - the Updater is started and it "fixes" all places to re-enable again

I used Autoruns to Disable all


P.S.
Google Chrome was the first program I know of that intentionally circumvents the Microsoft protection of "Program Files" in Vista - only to be able to Update without UAC prompt.

The installation directory (chrome.exe, chrome.dll, ...) is:
E:\Users\A n L\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Application\7.0.517.44\

The "User Data" (Bookmarks, Extensions, History, ...) is:
E:\Users\A n L\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\

They may think they do good - to not bother the user lets do the Update in the background and he will not notice.
But it was very noticeable on 1 core CPU + 1 GB RAM for Vista - they installed new >100 MB package every 1-2 weeks - no matter what the user do at the moment - and the computer was almost unusable for 10-15 minutes because of HDD swaps/paging.

(now also µTorrent installs to %AppData% since ~year ago - but it is small and do not automatically update - there is a Setting as should be)


P.P.S.
!!! Just noticed: Sysinternals seem to intentionally ban Windows XP now!
New minor versions released which claim on site "Client: Windows Vista and higher"
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/processexplorer

e.g. I have:
Autoruns 13.5 (October 26, 2015) (Windows XP and higher)
Autoruns 13.51 (January 4, 2016) (Windows Vista and higher)

Process Explorer 16.05 - 2015.03.09 - I use it on Windows XP
Process Explorer 16.1 - 2016.01.02 (Is it still for Windows XP and higher?)
Process Explorer 16.12 - February 2, 2016 (Windows Vista and higher)
 
369) Message boards : Number crunching : Anything relating to AstroPulse tasks (Message 1763581)
Posted 9 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thanks TBar, this is a fraction too involved me I think I would crash the task. I am pleased this works for you

I successfully managed to change this task from CPU to my ATI card however in the process I lost a considerable amount of work from another project. I did exit Boinc before saving changes in the appropriate file

BOINC Rescheduler still works (I even patched it to work with SETI@home v8, but for AstroPulse it don't need patch)
Why not use it? (if you after all are already inclined to Reschedule manually)

A good question you raise. I was looking for this yesterday and was unable to find and download. Are you able to provide a download link

http://www.efmer.eu/download/boinc/scheduler/boinc_rescheduler_2_7.zip

"BOINC Rescheduler - How to patch for SETI@home v7"
http://pastebin.com/a635m8CW

Change 7 to 8 in:

setiathome_enhanced -> setiathome_v8
Seti Enhanced -> SETI@home v8
Seti EH -> Seti v8

 
370) Message boards : Number crunching : Error download failed (Message 1763578)
Posted 9 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This topic is started in topic: Notes on Nvidia driver bloat [361.60 Hotfix] with post 1761949 .
See there for more info and the two answers.

"The two answers" are correct (even before reading them I was intending to say the same they say)

Antivirus - check logs and quarantine - the most probable culprit

Net - restart Router, check/change LAN cables, swap them to different socket, clean socket, ...
Try a VPN (as a test) like SecurityKISS - in case the file is blocked in transit e.g. by your ISP using some Antivirus scan on transmitted files/packets

(video driver is irrelevant)


... using the same AV program

And the name/version of this AV program is?
Same Settings?
371) Message boards : Number crunching : Anything relating to AstroPulse tasks (Message 1763498)
Posted 8 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thanks TBar, this is a fraction too involved me I think I would crash the task. I am pleased this works for you

I successfully managed to change this task from CPU to my ATI card however in the process I lost a considerable amount of work from another project. I did exit Boinc before saving changes in the appropriate file

BOINC Rescheduler still works (I even patched it to work with SETI@home v8, but for AstroPulse it don't need patch)
Why not use it? (if you after all are already inclined to Reschedule manually)
372) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (102) Server Problems? (Message 1763482)
Posted 8 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... until after the Superbowl weekend is over.

Forgive my ignorance ... but what is Superbowl? (it must be some kind of sport I guess)
I can Google it of course but ... why not make you a "pleasure" to tell me ;)
373) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC 7.6.23 for Linux Recongnizes OpenCL AMD/ATi GPU via MESA, But No Apps From SETI? (Message 1763472)
Posted 8 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I still don't understand how to use the plan class specs.

If you write your own app_info.xml the plan_class will not matter
The only thing hard to find is the name of the executable (and any libs that may go with it if any)
Someone with Linux have to tell the executable names for Linux ATI AMD OpenCL apps
374) Message boards : Number crunching : Intel HD Graphics 530 - Keeps "Postponing"... (Message 1763466)
Posted 8 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I gave up on Farragut and ... ... Prometheus with a GTX-750 TI SC...

You always use computer names like "Farragut", "Prometheus" (and maybe others - I don't remember)
We can't see them, we see only ID: 7301566 and ID: 7440554

Even if you tell me now which is which I will not remember them for the next your post.

Maybe use this way:
Farragut
Prometheus
... which is this "code" (you can Copy/Paste to Notepad and reuse):
[url=http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7301566]Farragut[/url]
[url=http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7440554]Prometheus[/url]

Or use Popchrom and make abbreviations (e.g. farr) which will expand to the full url= line
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73694
375) Message boards : Number crunching : Curious about CPU vs GPU tasks. (Message 1763461)
Posted 8 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This is my first time posting to the boards here.

Not really, this is a re-post (Copy/Paste) from here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79040

But you maybe did not like my answer?
376) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1763452)
Posted 8 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Chrome has started giving warnings that it will no longer be supported in vista.

There are other Chromium based browsers - I use Slimjet and SRWare Iron (Portable versions - No installation, all Preferences/Bookmarks/Extensions... are written in unpack directory)
http://www.slimjet.com/en/

https://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_download.php
https://www.srware.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=8855

They have more Settings
(e.g. to:
Disable WebRTC
choose Minimum SSL Version
Custom cache size
Automatically optimize memory usage
Confirm when closing browser window with multiple tabs
Automatically check newer version [Never]
...)
They do Not update automatically as Chrome do (the auto-update was the main reason I stopped using Google Chrome years ago)


I still use the ones based on Chromium 35 & 40 (with disabled "Check for updates")
Older versions are here:
http://www.slimjet.com/release/archive/

https://www.srware.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=8004
http://download1.srware.net/old/iron/win/portable/


Maybe I will try the newest IronPortable 48.0.2550.0 (on Windows XP)
 
377) Message boards : Number crunching : Seti has dissapeard from myBoinc client (Message 1763126)
Posted 7 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Seti appears to have completely disappeared from my boinc client.

Try to 'Add' SETI@home project again


I did try to download a file to upgrade the lunatics app but couldn't open it.

Use 7-Zip
http://www.7-zip.org/


I have looked in boinc - projects and the seti folder is still there.

Maybe the account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml file is corrupted (which should be shown in the first 40 lines of Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E))

Instead of 'Add' SETI@home project again you may try to copy this file from another of your computers
All account_*.xml files of projects are in BOINC Data directory
378) Message boards : Number crunching : something wrong? (Message 1763109)
Posted 7 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
that's what I ended up doing.

And which program/Antivirus blocked the download?

Till now for the current (new) apps we had reports about Avast and AVG
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=78984

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=78888
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=78877
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=78880
379) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Curious about CPU vs GPU tasks. (Message 1763080)
Posted 7 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If I were to only allocate 1 core and 1 GPU to run SETI, would that increase my contribution?

No


am I assigned different tasks based on the hardware(CPU vs GPU) I use?

No, all tasks are the "same", any task can be done on any supported (have app for it) Hardware or Software/OS:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

The only exception - vlar tasks are not sent to GPUs for "practical" reasons - GPU can do them but they make too much lag (mouse stutters)

Click in "Work unit" column of your tasks list - you will see the same WU (same file) that you do by one app will in many cases be done by different app on another computer
(every WU is sent to at least 2 computers)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7915162


What does it mean when a GPU task shows it as using CUDA 36, 42, or 50?

Versions of CUDA (The same way like there are versions of DirectX, OpenGL, OpenCL, ...)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA

(CUDA 4.2 app can run on GPU/driver that support CUDA 5.0 like DirectX 9 game can run on system which has DirectX 11)

Server try which app will run fastest on your system - should be CUDA 5.0 for your GPU
The server will learn in time to send mostly tasks for the best app
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=7915162
380) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD Dual Graphics. Logical choice?... (Message 1763012)
Posted 7 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I don't mean "After driver restart"
For ~3.5 years using Radeon HD 6570 I don't remember any driver restart caused by apps.
During that time I had only 2-3 driver restarts caused by very old or misconfigured games.

I mean if the app runs normally but I want to stop the offline test before it ends (e.g because of too much lag)

What undesirable effects killing the running GPU app may have?
Probability if those bad effects may happen? - if you can estimate "by eye"

(E.g. if you stand on the ground and touch an AC 230 V wire for 1 ms there is Probability of maybe 10-15% that you May not be electrocuted because at that moment the voltage may be around +50...-50 V - I didn't calculate it, just looking by eye at sinusoid; and considered my skin/body resistance - not some kid wet by salt water

Of course I don't intend to try this "Russian Roulette" ;) - 17 volts shown as dangerous in worst scenario:
http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/direct-current/chpt-3/ohms-law-again/
)


Process Hacker have "Terminator" - do you see any method that is "nice"?
http://processhacker.sourceforge.net/

381) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD Dual Graphics. Logical choice?... (Message 1762999)
Posted 6 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
And for offline test try PG0009 from PG set. It's VLAR, that is, hardest case for GPU PulseFind.

Is if safe for the state of video driver to kill the offline run of app (any GPU app)?
By "kill" I mean in Windows Task Manager, Process Explorer, ... (I also have System Explorer, ProcessHacker, Process Lasso)
In Process Lasso there is "Terminate" and "Force terminate" but I don't know the difference

Is it possible outside of BOINC to "nicely" tell the app "Exit"?
382) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : Communication deferred ? (Message 1762991)
Posted 6 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
1) I think BOINC version 6.6.36 will only allow you to get tasks for CPU (and not for GPU)
   Google Translate:
1) Je pense que la version BOINC 6.6.36 ne vous permettre d'obtenir des tâches pour CPU (Et non pour le GPU)

2) You get tasks for CPU but some of them fail because server sent the wrong version "SETI@home v8 v8.03 powerpc-apple-darwin":
   Google Translate:
2) Vous obtenez tâches pour CPU, mais certains d'entre eux échouent parce serveur a envoyé la mauvaise version "SETI@home v8 v8.03 powerpc-apple-darwin":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7925784&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4705412911
dyld: DYLD_ environment variables being ignored because main executable (/Library/Application Support/BOINC Data/slots/2/../../switcher/switcher) is setuid or setgid
Process creation (../../projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_8.03_powerpc-apple-darwin) failed: errno=86

3) You have some new tasks which should run OK: SETI@home v8 v8.03 i686-apple-darwin, SETI@home v8 v8.03 x86_64-apple-darwin
   Google Translate:
3) Vous avez des nouvelles tâches qui doivent exécuter OK: SETI@home v8 v8.03 i686-apple-darwin, SETI@home v8 v8.03 x86_64-apple-darwin
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7925784&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1&appid=

4) All of this have nothing to do with "Communication deferred" which is not a problem and is normal Message at all times - project don't want the servers to be contacted too often so asks BOINC to make a delay of 5 minutes before next contact.
Everybody see this all the time and it is normal.
   Google Translate:
4) Tout cela n'a rien à voir avec "Communication différée" qui ne soit pas un problème et est un message normal à tout moment - projet ne veulent pas que les serveurs à contacter trop souvent si demande BOINC pour faire un retard de 5 minutes avant prochain contact.
Tout le monde voit tout le temps et il est normal.
 
383) Message boards : Number crunching : Anything relating to AstroPulse tasks (Message 1762440)
Posted 5 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
No way to do that by web Settings (unless you edit them all the time) or app_config.xml

It is done by app_info.xml
Since you already use Lunatics - it is a matter of selecting only apps you want to run.

If you now don't have AstroPulse tasks for CPU you can do that right now.
Re-run Lunatics installer and select e.g.: for CPU only SETI@home v8 + for GPU only AstroPulse v7
(or any other combination you want)

!!! Anything not selected but you have tasks now for it - tasks will be Deleted without warning by BOINC !
384) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD Dual Graphics. Logical choice?... (Message 1762435)
Posted 5 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
For now I provided "full-sync" build (see link above). It resembles iGPU build that uses full-sync too but mostly for CPU time reduction purposes.

Try that build, see how it respond on N and sbs changes and report here. It will provide additional info.

So you ask me to try MB8_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_APU_r3366_sync on:
AMD Radeon HD 6570 - Catalyst 11.12 - Windows XP

Under BOINC?
In "production server" (here, at SETI@home) or at Beta?

Or in offline test?
Which WUs to use for SETI@home v8 offline test?

(I now use MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r3330 at default)
385) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD Dual Graphics. Logical choice?... (Message 1762417)
Posted 5 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Я сейчас над новым билдом работаю - будет переключаться для слабых видюх в щадящий режим так сказать.

(Raistmer: "I am now working on a new build - will be switching for the weak GPUs in "gentle mode" so to speak.")

Will this only amend -period_iterations_num (different for different GPUs) or will be some more?

Even with -period_iterations_num 900 I still feel big mouse lag every few minutes (for ~10 seconds) if the task is Not VHAR (VHAR is OK even on default 50)
(so it's kernel that runs only on Non-VHAR tasks)

AMD Radeon HD 6570 - Catalyst 11.12 - Windows XP
386) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD Dual Graphics. Logical choice?... (Message 1762416)
Posted 5 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
после прописания команд стало несколько медленнее

Если толъко "несколько" (<5%) - это известно:

From ReadMe_MultiBeam_OpenCL_ATI.txt (written by Raistmer and others)
-period_iterations_num N : Splits single PulseFind kernel call to N calls for longest
                           PulseFind calls. Can be used to reduce GUI lags or to
                           prevent driver restarts. Can affect performance.
                           Experimentation required. The default value for v6/v7/v8
                           tasks is N=20. N should be positive integer.


My note:
The default value for new apps seem to be N=50
387) Message boards : Number crunching : How to add stats to a signature (Message 1762380)
Posted 5 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
That's odd. I see them. Anyone else?

Well ... I'M STUPID

I used two different browsers, both based on Chromium (35 & 40)
Now I tried again in the "bad" version - and I see the same as before (img - NO, new tab - Yes)

At first I was thinking in uBlock Origin I have some bad filter in "My filters" (but no, nothing there for boincstats (only 12 filters, so easy to check))
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm


So I used Ctrl+Shift+N (to open "incognito window" where no extensions run) and Copy/Pasted:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79012

And I see the boincstats images (when no extensions run)

I started enabling "Allow in incognito" for one extension at a time:
uBlock Origin
Tampermonkey
Privacy Badger
HTTPS Everywhere
(I have some 6-7 more but they are irrelevant (no need to test them) - WOT, Popchrom, Lazarus: Form Recovery, IP Domain Country Flag, Forecastfox, Font Rendering Enhancer, FastestTube)

Both browsers have almost the same extensions.


The culprit is the Privacy Badger
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/privacy-badger/pkehgijcmpdhfbdbbnkijodmdjhbjlgp

Privacy Badger is self-learning extension so no wonder it have different behaviour on 2 browsers - depends how much and which pages/sites did you visit.
I checked that boincstats.com is automatically blocked by Privacy Badger (i.e. I didn't move the slider, it is automatically on "red")

And since Privacy Badger blocks 3rd-party "potential trackers" it is now obvious why in "new tab" I can see the image - there it is 1st-party
 
388) Message boards : Number crunching : How to add stats to a signature (Message 1762362)
Posted 5 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Your post - 21:32:06 UTC
My post - 19:00:28 UTC

Now I can see them.
But at the moment of post they were "empty" on SETI@home pages (but visible if opened in new tab)
(I hit F5 Ctrl+F5 and Shift+F5 ~20 times during 10-15 minutes)

It WAS like this (I saved the picture at 19:10 UTC)

389) Questions and Answers : Windows : Why only 12 Gflops? Am I using my GPU? (Message 1762352)
Posted 5 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I wasn't aware I had to go looking for a OpenCL package as well.

Some driver packages include OpenCL, some not.
AMD have the habit to remove OpenCL in last/newest drivers for old GPUs and old OSes

This table is made by HAL9000
ATI Driver Version Cheat Sheet
http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet.htm


Driver packages (Catalyst installer/setup) can be opened by 7-Zip
At least the older - example is from 11-12_vista32_win7_32_dd_ccc_ocl.exe

You can find OpenCL.msi in:
11-12_vista32_win7_32_dd_ccc_ocl.exe\$_OUTDIR\Packages\Apps\OpenCL\

I don't know if just OpenCL.msi from older driver can be installed if using this new Crimson


Programs ("GPU Caps Viewer" and LuxMark) you can use to test OpenCL (my post):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=78940&postid=1760022#1760022
 
390) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD Dual Graphics. Logical choice?... (Message 1762274)
Posted 4 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
но как будто стало работать медленее

Ну не все задания одинаковые - обрати внимание на "angle range"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7488485&offset=0&show_names=0&state=2&appid=

WU true angle range is : 2.188299 - Run time 58 min 38 sec
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4703167560

WU true angle range is : 0.374034 - Run time 1 hours 30 min 58 sec
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4703455742
391) Message boards : Number crunching : How to add stats to a signature (Message 1762260)
Posted 4 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I had to get the new URL, make a new bit.ly of it, and then paste that into my signature. It's now working, as you should see below.

I don't see the images in your signature even after Ctrl+F5

Open in new tab works:
http://bit.ly/1X692b5
http://bit.ly/1X692b5

But not Image tags here:
{ }

Even direct links:
http://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/59591/sig.png
http://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/59591/sig.png

don't work as Image for me:
{ }


But this is visible:
http://bit.ly/1aRy7N1
http://bit.ly/1aRy7N1

Image:
{ }
392) Message boards : News : Did SETI@home ever find aliens? (Message 1762256)
Posted 4 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
When I first heard about BOINC in 2007 I was thinking they talked about Boeing ;) (which is pronounced bɔ-ɪnɡ in Bulgarian (not boʊɪŋ nor bɔɪŋ))
393) Message boards : Number crunching : Your kooky computers (Message 1761886)
Posted 3 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Well Alf, It is Alf, right?

No, ALF is the (Alien) character from:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALF_(TV_series)


I clearly stated what the problem was and what I was seeing. Very clearly.

Not at all.
I will not read Again this raw (not-in-paragraphs) text.
I stopped reading this post after "Very clearly."
394) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD Dual Graphics. Logical choice?... (Message 1761429)
Posted 1 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
BOINC в Catalyst принудительно настроен на максимальную производительность т.е. на 7670M

Какая эта настройка?
Возможно ли выбрать "если boinc.exe работает -> использовать 'этот' GPU"?


Можете ли вы опубликовать первые ~ 20 строк из журнала? - Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E)
(где BOINC детектирует GPU)
395) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD Dual Graphics. Logical choice?... (Message 1761423)
Posted 1 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
<use_all_gpus>0|1</use_all_gpus>

... ему не поможет - BOINC находит только один GPU

AMD Radeon HD 7500/7600/8500/8600 series (Devastator) (512MB) driver: 1.4.1848 OpenCL: 1.2
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7488485


Я кстати не знаю что это Dual Graphics - обе GPU видимы для софтвера одновременно?
Или хардвер переключает ту один ту другой?
396) Message boards : Number crunching : What's the best valued GPU? (Message 1761416)
Posted 1 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If the computer is very unstable (can hang/crash/BSOD any moment) it is obviously dangerous to flash BIOS / Firmware

Not with a Gigabyte board, that got dual-bios

The update Firmware attempt was for Asus GTX 970 - Device Id: 10DE 13C2 ; Subsystem Id: 1043 8508
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/162336/asus-gtx970-4096-140903.html

And the used ROM file was wrong - for MSI GTX 970 - Device Id: 10DE 13C2 ; Subsystem Id: 1462 3160
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/162340/msi-gtx970-4096-140910.html
397) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1761403)
Posted 1 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So, I can block the Win 10 upgrade to my Win 7 Pro PC by following the steps in the "Computer Configuration" part of your link?
...
How to you FIND "Computer Configuration?"

If you ask questions like that - better change your mind and:
Use GWX Control Panel - the author (Ultimate Outsider) can be trusted.
Just reading the docs/Guide shows for me he is knowledgeable and honest.

It (GWX Control Panel) sets the same Settings described + can monitor if they are changed again by Windows at later time


Reputation of the site (by users/visitors):
https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/ultimateoutsider.com

GWX_control_panel.exe scan (Detection ratio: 0 / 54)
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/d11ecbfbaaffc58d26594923cdd096defed0e081eeade05b65a4173f1866ad42/analysis/


If you still want the "manual way" (but it changes only one thing of many; and Windows update may change it back any time (people say)):
Win+R
gpedit.msc

Policy path: Computer Configuration / Administrative Templates / Windows Components / Windows Update
Setting: Turn off the upgrade to the latest version of Windows through Windows Update

(Do you understand the above? If not -go for GWX Control Panel)
398) Message boards : Number crunching : What's the best valued GPU? (Message 1761377)
Posted 1 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Fireware Firmware image PCI subsystem ID 1462.3160 does not match adapter PCI subsystem ID 1043.8508

1462=Micro-Star International (MSI) ("Firmware image" = the "bin" file with new Firmware)
1043=ASUSTeK Computer ("adapter PCI" = the real Hardware)

"subsystem ID" = who made the card/motherboard (e.g. ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte, EVGA)
"Vendor ID" (not shown in your post) = who made the chip (e.g. NVIDIA, Intel, ATI, AMD, Realtek)

PCI Vendor and Device Lists
http://pcidatabase.com/

P.S.
If the computer is very unstable (can hang/crash/BSOD any moment) it is obviously dangerous to flash BIOS / Firmware
399) Message boards : News : SETI@home Version 8 for Android and GPU to be released January, 21st (Message 1761313)
Posted 1 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
whenever I click "beta" or "join", it takes me to pages that have nothing to do with this ATI Radeon 4xxx beta

Of course it will not say "ATI Radeon 4xxx beta"

This is "SETI@home/AstroPulse Beta" projects' general page
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/

You "join" the SETI@home "beta" project by Copy/Paste of the page URL in BOINC Manager - "Add project" window, i.e. you Copy/Paste this string:
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/

You may select here:
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/prefs.php?subset=project
... that you only want "SETI@home v8" and only "Use ATI GPU"

Then BOINC will automatically Download "beta" apps only for "SETI@home v8" for "ATI GPU"
400) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.44 - new release for v8 (required upgrade) (Message 1761302)
Posted 1 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I just discovered that the Astropulse device-specific configuration files (for those with multiple, disparate GPUs) that Raistmer added back in the fall of 2014 apparently still haven't found their way into the app_info.xml file generated by the Lunatics installer.
For Nvidia GPUs, that would be 'AstroPulse_NV_config.xml'

Are you sure this file have to be described in app_info.xml to be used by AstroPulse app?

In AP7_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r2742.exe I see this exact string (Copy/Paste):
AstroPulse_ATi_config.xml

I'm not sure if the app needs <soft_link> file in 'slots' or it directly checks the app directory (next to real .exe)
401) Message boards : Number crunching : Your kooky computers (Message 1761293)
Posted 1 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You seem to not need or want any help.

But if you do need/want help:
- describe your problem shortly and clearly (what do you want? what you see instead?)
- state your Settings - Copy/Paste from pages:
Computing preferences
SETI@home preferences

At the top of first page:
"These settings apply to all computers using this account except
computers where you have set preferences locally using the BOINC Manager
Android devices
"

So if you use Local preferences - check them:
"Settings override the same preferences set on the project's web page preferences"
402) Message boards : Number crunching : Rounding in app.config (revsited?) (Message 1761282)
Posted 1 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Realizing that .33 X 3 is .99 it seems you have to set the CPU to .34 so that 3 WUs will reserve a core.

Yes, it is the way it works (unless there is some newer BOINC code I don't know about)
BOINC do not do "Rounding" - it Truncates, try with 0.66 and you'll have to see the math is:
0.66 * 3 = 1.98 = 1

i.e. BOINC will "reserve" 1 core even if you use 0.66
403) Message boards : Number crunching : Where to download a virusfree Windows 7 .ISO ? (Message 1761269)
Posted 1 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Is there (where?) a possibility to download a virusfree Windows 7 x64 (Home Premium Family) .ISO - and I can activate it with the 'OEM product key'?

I don't think key is needed - you can use any Windows 7 DVD (it usually can install any "version" - Pro, Home, ...)
The "key" is embedded in BIOS, Windows install should see it - just try.
404) Questions and Answers : Windows : Why only 12 Gflops? Am I using my GPU? (Message 1761265)
Posted 1 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
or am I only using my CPU for SETI?

It seems so

BOINC recognises the GPU - AMD ATI Radeon HD 5800/5900 series (Cypress/Hemlock) (1024MB) driver: 1.4.1848 - but don't say anything about OpenCL
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7918024

All tasks are for CPU:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7918024

Did you install OpenCL while installing driver (Crimson)?
It may be also that this package (Crimson-Legacy) have no OpenCL at all?
(no OpenCL = no way to compute on GPU)

You may also post the first 30-40 lines from Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E)


found a page that says I am maxing out at 12.43 Gflops

Probably this page?
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=7918024

There is info only for the stock CPU app
SETI@home v8 8.00 windows_intelx86
Average processing rate 11.83 GFLOPS
405) Questions and Answers : Windows : V8 very slow & wrong time (Message 1761252)
Posted 1 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Normally ive only done CPU tasks as mentioned earlier in this post.
ive never knowingly selected to do GPU tasks.
so usually i would not select anything that was obviously for GPU.
...
The 'Use NVIDIA GPU' is already unselected in SETI@home preferences,
I never selected it before

Then you had me confused by this:
"
Your GPU (NVIDIA GeForce 9200 (253MB)) is probably too slow and low RAM to be of real use (but you can try CUDA 3.2 app if you wish).

well i dont know about my NVIDIA being slow, probably is compared to some of the rigs out there, i just know in seti v7 i had no trouble like this. all the tasks were running smooth, ...
"

(From post: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=78853&postid=1759749#1759749)
... which I interpreted as if you "had no trouble" running SETI@home v7 on your NVIDIA


All this means - it was useless (but harmless) to select any CUDA app in Lunatics
Since you don't accept NVIDIA tasks this CUDA app will just stay unused for now (no need to re-run the Lunatics installer)
CPU tasks/app is not influenced in any way - no matter if you have (or have not) installed also CUDA app
406) Questions and Answers : Windows : V8 very slow & wrong time (Message 1761250)
Posted 1 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Any GPU will always be faster than a CPU

Well ... not "Any GPU" but most GPUs

NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS (my) is almost the same speed (in fact slightly slower) as one core of Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2140 @ 1.60GHz (in the same computer) for SETI@home tasks:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7396088
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7396088&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=

I think it is the second version based on G98GS (I may check again but don't want to wake the computer now)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_8_series#Technical_summary

I think GeForce 9200 will be about the same speed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_9_series#Technical_summary
407) Questions and Answers : Windows : Multiple Video Cards (Message 1761189)
Posted 1 Feb 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
For the new Quadro 4000 it shows a computer capability of 2.0 and for my old Quadro 600 a slightly higher rating of 2.1

This is "Compute Capability" and is not "rating" (i.e. do not show how fast GPU computes but what it can do)

The SETI@home cuda50 app show the same (computeCap 2.0 vs 2.1):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4689074722
setiathome_CUDA: Found 2 CUDA device(s):
nVidia Driver Version 354.56
  Device 1: Quadro 4000, 2048 MiB, regsPerBlock 32768
     computeCap 2.0, multiProcs 8 
     pciBusID = 1, pciSlotID = 0
     clockRate = 950 MHz
  Device 2: Quadro 600, 1024 MiB, regsPerBlock 32768
     computeCap 2.1, multiProcs 2 
     pciBusID = 2, pciSlotID = 0
     clockRate = 1280 MHz


(the speed depends on multiProcs and clockRate)

First column here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA#Supported_GPUs

In "Feature support" the column is "2.x" so probably not much difference on "Features" between computeCap 2.0 and computeCap 2.1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA#Version_features_and_specifications

The only difference is in the last table "Architecture specifications"
 
408) Message boards : Number crunching : Badges? We doan need no steenkin badges! (Message 1760672)
Posted 30 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Yes. There are 1%, 5%, and 25% badges.

And the links are:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/img/pct_1.png
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/img/pct_5.png
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/img/pct_25.png

This is native/real size (300 x 300 Pixels):




They look smaller on pages because of the page code:

At account:
<img title="Top 5% in average credit" valign="top" height="56" src="img/pct_5.png">

At left of post:
<img title="Top 1% in average credit" valign="top" height="20" src="img/pct_1.png">
409) Questions and Answers : Windows : V8 very slow & wrong time (Message 1760574)
Posted 30 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Do you have now CPU (SSE3) app running?

Honestly, i think I do, but not sure, ...

It is easy to see, I give you 3 ways:

1) in Windows Task Manager or Process Explorer look which processes run
Process Explorer shows processes as a tree so you'll easy see what was started by BOINC (boinc.exe)
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/processexplorer.aspx

2) go to SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)
Your is at F:\Seti@home\data\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\
Look the names of .exe files - Copy/Paste the names here if you can't understand which is for what

3) in the same directory look for app_info.xml
Copy it somewhere (to not damage the original accidentally)
Open the Copy with Notepad
Ctrl+F for .exe
F3 for next

This way you'll see all the .exe files listed in app_info.xml


however this did not appear to make any difference.
everything seemed the same as before i did it.
(i think i already had the same settings and just overwrote it with the same)

Yes. probably you "already had the same settings"


I did not know that about
Nvidia cards do not like VLARs

The VLARs are currently not sent to any GPU - they make the computer lag too much or even driver restarts
(On "SETI@home Beta" (another project) they are sent to (some?) GPUs for test purposes)


CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce 9200 (driver version unknown, CUDA version 2.2,
compute capability 1.1, 254MB, 219MB available, 29 GFLOPS peak)

(Please don't edit next time, post the log as it is)

Uh Oh - CUDA version 2.2
You have NVIDIA driver less than 190.38 ? Or your GPU really supports only up to CUDA 2.2 ?

No need to change the driver if you like it

If you want to change it - go for 266.58 which is good for old GPUs
Like my: NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS (511MB) driver: 266.58
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7396088

I didn't check if your GPU is supported by 266.58
Older good versions are 190.38 or 191.07

But you need to change or disable CUDA app with the driver you use now!
The oldest version in Lunatics_Win32_v0.44_setup.exe is CUDA 2.3
It say it needs "min. driver 190.38"

You may:
1) upgrade NVIDIA driver

or
2) deselect "Use NVIDIA GPU" on SETI@home preferences

or
3) re-install Lunatics and select only SSE3 CPU app

or (Advanced)
4) get cuda22 app from SETI@home server and edit app_info.xml manually to add it (not really easy to do if you never edited app_info.xml)


EDIT: cuda22 app exists only for SETI@home v7, not for SETI@home v8:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php
410) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : AstroPulse V77.10 Task Not Running Correctly (Message 1760548)
Posted 30 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This particular task has been hung up ever since I download SETI@home V8

There is no connection between this AstroPulse v7 v7.10 (opencl_nvidia_cc1) task and that the new SETI@home v8 apps were deployed.
(unless some previously run CUDA SETI@home v8 task left the NVIDIA driver in "bad state" (or even crashed driver?) - reboot computer if needed)


Your "hang" AstroPulse v7 v7.10 (opencl_nvidia_cc1) task:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4649590685

ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clEnqueueReadBuffer->CPU_result' call failed (-5) in file ..\..\ap_fold.cpp near line 6766.
Waiting 30 sec before restart...
Running on device number: 0
Priority of worker thread raised successfully
Priority of process adjusted successfully, below normal priority class used
OpenCL platform detected: NVIDIA Corporation
BOINC assigns device 0
Info: BOINC provided OpenCL device ID used
Used GPU device parameters are:
Number of compute units: 4
Single buffer allocation size: 256MB
Total device global memory: 1024MB
max WG size: 512
local mem type: Real
FERMI path used: no
-unroll default value used: 4
-ffa_block default value used: 1024
-ffa_block_fetch default value used: 512

Build features: Non-graphics BLANKIT OpenCL USE_OPENCL_NV TWIN_FFA OCL_ZERO_COPY COMBINED_DECHIRP_KERNEL FFTW USE_INCREASED_PRECISION USE_SSE2 x86
CPUID: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz

Cache: L1=64K L2=4096K

CPU features: FPU TSC PAE CMPXCHG8B APIC SYSENTER MTRR CMOV/CCMP MMX FXSAVE/FXRSTOR SSE SSE2 HT SSE3 SSSE3
### Restart at 11.71 percent.



* I don't know why this ERROR happened or what it means - I may ask the dev to look at this info.
Did you have a driver crash or did you update NVIDIA driver and didn't reboot?


Interestingly, NEW AstroPulse tasks downloaded show AstroPulse v 77.03 (sse) are being processed just fine

This is task sent for the CPU, this task is done by different app (different .exe)
If the tasks are for your GPU they will have NVIDIA or CUDA or OpenCL in ( ) like "(opencl_nvidia_cc1)"


The one AstroPulse task (AstroPulse v77.10 (opencl_nvidia_ccl)) I was referring to ...

If you Copy/Paste (from your tasks web-pages) and not type you will get:
AstroPulse v7 v7.10 (opencl_nvidia_cc1)

"AstroPulse v7" is the user_friendly_name of the app, the real name (used internally) is astropulse_v7
This is name and not number - you may think of it as if it was AstroPulse_Seven

v7.10 is the version_num of the particular app - e.g. if they find a bug in the current .exe and want to deploy new .exe (for the same "AstroPulse v7" tasks) they will need to set this on server to higher number (7.11) so to make the new app Download to your (any) local BOINC
opencl_nvidia_cc1 is the plan_class - list of rules used by server to determine what exact app to send to your GPU/driver combination

You can see all the variants here:
(many apps with different version_num and plan_class can do the same tasks on different Hardware/OS)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php


P.S.
Please write in paragraphs - this raw text is hard to read
 
411) Questions and Answers : Windows : V8 very slow & wrong time (Message 1760230)
Posted 29 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So are you saying it was a bug in seti 8 as well as seti 6 & 7.?
or a bug in the stock boinc ?

What is "stock boinc"? Almost all use "stock" BOINC, very few use some custom version of BOINC
The hang bug is in stock CPU SETI@home applications v6, v7, v8


As far as my tasks go, i only have 8 current tasks im working with.
...
after i got the CUDA 3.2 app installed the tasks i had vanished from boinc.
and they were not aborted.

Every time you re-install Lunatics you should select again ALL the apps you want/need, not only "additional"
If you selected only CUDA app - this means no CPU applications in app_info.xml so BOINC will delete all CPU tasks without warning.

Do you have now CPU (SSE3) app running?
If not - re-install Lunatics (over the current) and select both SSE3 and CUDA apps


(not with current settings) so I dont know what to do about those.

No "Settings" can get them back to you, they will time-out and sent to others.


although all of them show 19+ hours each.

Don't pay attention to that, they are maybe CUDA tasks?
You never did CUDA SETI@home v8 by app_info.xml so this is "new app" as seen by server.


I just hope its not all bad ones also.

What are "bad ones"?? (There is no such thing)

The hang was NOT caused by some "bad" WU/task
412) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : AstroPulse V77.10 Task Not Running Correctly (Message 1760200)
Posted 29 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You seem to like DDouble NNumbers ;)
There are no SETI V88.0 or AstroPulse V77.10

They are at SETI@home v8 and AstroPulse v7
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

I guess this is the computer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7748105

You have now 2 SETI@home v8 tasks for CPU and 1 AstroPulse v7 v7.10 (opencl_nvidia_cc1) task for GPU
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7748105

1) "suspended because PC is in use" means your Setting is (by default or you set it):
"Suspend GPU computing when computer is in use"
Computing preferences
(but you may feel lag if GPU tasks run while you work or especially if you game or watch videos)

You may also want to set:
"Suspend when non-BOINC CPU usage is above" to 0 (zero)

2) "even though elapsed time runs" - for how long? - wait at least 2-5 minutes (AstroPulse don't update progress often, only every 0.901 %) (also the first ever task will do some additional "work" (compile .cl to .bin files) at start - may take a few minutes)


I really don't understand this: "If I suspend both SETI (CPU) files the AstroPulse (GPU) shows as running"
It should not happen this way - I see no reason
(unless both SETI@home and AstroPulse tasks are for GPU - but on web page I don't see currently for your computer SETI@home for GPU)

Can you check again?
After you now know what runs on CPU and what runs on GPU -
Shown on the "Tasks" tab - columns "Application" and "Status"

https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Advanced_view#The_Tasks_tab
413) Questions and Answers : Windows : Multiple Video Cards (Message 1760169)
Posted 29 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Anyone know how to do this.

Not enough info (you don't need "advice" like "buy the card and put it in computer", right?)

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6191919

The best place to ask complex Hardware questions is Number Crunching

Be prepared to give info like:
Your PSU - exact model or at least Watts, brand, ... (all you know about it)
Motherboard - exact model

If you pair NVIDIA Quadro 4000 with the same card - BOINC will use both automatically.
If the GPU/card is different - there is Setting to tell BOINC to use both GPUs

cc_config.xml
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>

(I think you may pair with some GeForce, best to be the same/similar generation as your NVIDIA Quadro 4000; if you want to pair with ATI AMD it will be more problematic despite possible)
 
414) Questions and Answers : Windows : V8 very slow & wrong time (Message 1760143)
Posted 29 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
OK, I see you experienced the problem I mentioned earlier (and you decided to Abort the tasks):

"The stock CPU app may hang at start on some CPUs/systems - happens randomly (in "Optimal function choice" - unless they changed that code recently - the issue exists for years)
When this hang occurs - the process uses 100% CPU core but there is no real progress (i.e. if the task is restarted it starts from 0%).
The (Lunatics) SSE3, SSE2,... apps don't have that "Optimal function choice" code.
"


Normal stderr_txt of stock CPU app (from another user):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4685982280
... have this info:
WU true angle range is :  0.009687
Optimal function choices:
--------------------------------------------------------
                            name   timing   error
--------------------------------------------------------
                v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)
           v_avxGetPowerSpectrum 0.000074 0.00000 
                 avx_ChirpData_d 0.002942 0.00000 
                  v_pfTranspose4 0.001616 0.00000 
                JS AVX_a folding 0.001403 0.00000 

Flopcounter: 44675207566044.867000



I know Your tasks were hang because this info is partial.
This is exactly the place in code ("Optimal function choices:" at tasks starting) where/when the hang happens.
THIS HANG may be the reason you think SETI@home v8 tasks run too long!
(But this is nothing new - the bug was present in SETI@home v6 and v7 stock CPU applications)

See how "Optimal function choice" was hang in the middle
= no real % Progress despite "new" BOINC versions show increasing Progress even if it not exist - when the app don't report any Progress BOINC lies there is.
I don't know if they removed that misleading behaviour in newest BOINC code.

Your 2 hang tasks:

1) http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4680143301
WU true angle range is :  0.011954
Optimal function choices:
--------------------------------------------------------
                            name   timing   error
--------------------------------------------------------
                v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)
     v_vGetPowerSpectrumUnrolled 0.000614 0.00000 
              sse3_ChirpData_ak8 0.013192 0.00000 


2) http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4680143553
... have just this line (hang at very beginning of "Optimal function choice"):
WU true angle range is :  0.011954


This hang will Not happen with Lunatics CPU apps
 
415) Questions and Answers : Windows : AVG 2016 detected virus after install of BOINC 7.6.22 (x64) running seti@home v8 (Message 1760032)
Posted 28 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Is c:\windows\system32\conhost.exe also a BOINC item?

No, BOINC don't put anything in that directory
Seems conhost.exe is part of Windows but your copy may be infected
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/4996/what-is-conhost.exe-and-why-is-it-running/

Can you send conhost.exe to VirusTotal for scan?
https://www.virustotal.com/en/
416) Questions and Answers : Windows : V8 very slow & wrong time (Message 1760027)
Posted 28 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
even without changing my boinc or boinc task setting

I didn't change any Settings in BOINC or BoincTasks to run SETI@home v8
I only changed the SETI@home apps by running Lunatics_Win32_v0.44_setup.exe
(I didn't go to stock first, I was using manually edited app_info.xml and now just installed apps from Lunatics_Win32_v0.44_setup)

I use old BOINC 6.10.58 and BoincTasks 1.61


I seen it mentioned about completing 10 or more tasks first,
But i did not understand why that was needed when updating seti 7 to seti 8.

This happens for any new app (not only at SETI@home) - that is how BOINC server Software is written.
When you go to using app_info.xml ("Anonymous platform", Lunatics) it is also considered "new app" by the server.

"Number of tasks completed 11" is needed only for more correct estimated time.
This new estimated time is calculated by the server and sent "together" with the next/new Downloaded tasks.
417) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : problems with version 8 and Radeon R7 260X (Message 1760022)
Posted 28 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
PSU?
What happens if you load GPU with other programs?

GPU Caps Viewer (try all OpenGL and OpenCL "demos" - "Fury cube" heats/loads GPU most)
http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/

FurMark
http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/

TessMark
http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/tessmark/

OCCT
http://www.ocbase.com/
http://www.ocbase.com/index.php/download

LuxMark (OpenCL)
http://www.luxrender.net/wiki/LuxMark
418) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU missing. Plus other symptoms. (Message 1760016)
Posted 28 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
the driver has been updated today by NVIDIA

Did you reboot after that?
Is it driver from NVIDIA or from Windows/Microsoft?
419) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Communication Deferred (Message 1760015)
Posted 28 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
cc_config.xml

<http_1_0>1</http_1_0>
Set this flag to use HTTP 1.0 instead of 1.1 (this may be needed with some proxies).
 
420) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Average credit going up and down (Message 1760013)
Posted 28 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Is this still considered normal ?

Which "this"?
Your RAC: 1,062 - what do you expect to see here? Constant RAC?
421) Message boards : Number crunching : Anything relating to AstroPulse tasks (Message 1759667)
Posted 27 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
not helped by the usual mass of fake download buttons embedded in advertising

Don't you know of uBlock Origin?
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/

https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UBlock


Path to DDU from link in your post:
http://www.wagnardmobile.com/
http://www.wagnardmobile.com/?q=node/51
"Click here for Info and Download" - http://www.wagnardmobile.com/forums/
http://www.wagnardmobile.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=5

http://www.wagnardmobile.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=164

"Official Download Here" gets:
http://www.wagnardmobile.com/DDU/download/DDU%20v15.7.3.1.exe
422) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.44 - new release for v8 (required upgrade) (Message 1759661)
Posted 27 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Actually.....we're all late to the party. Here's the same window from v0.43b.

[img ]http://i65.tinypic.com/ayk6tg.jpg[/img]

I guess none of us really pay attention to details when we're in a hurry to install the latest and greatest! ;^)

Well you are not only late to the party, but you also missed the main error in the 0.44 installer.
You guys might want to give Richard's reply to BilBg's post a read.

In fact "the main error" (MB7_ vs MB8_) is only visual glitch in the GUI - the app_info.xml and .exe files themselves are OK
423) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.44 - new release for v8 (required upgrade) (Message 1759636)
Posted 27 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Very small visual 7ypo (which don't really need correction) on ATI and Intel pages:
Can you spot it ;)


Mutlibeam :)

edit: late to the show again ...sigh

MutliBeam - I really didn't see this - too small letters on my bad-focus CRT monitor (Philips 201B4 21" 1600x1200) (I was given for free)
(the first blue line have MultiBeam but the black - MutliBeam)

P.S.
In the browser I use abbreviations (for faster typing and to avoid too much thinking about spelling ;) )
I type br` abb` mb` ap` t` app` s` b` (and many others)
and they become browser abbreviations MultiBeam AstroPulse tasks applications SETI@home BOINC
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73694
424) Message boards : Number crunching : Hd 6970 (Message 1759629)
Posted 27 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Check info and links on:

ATI Driver Version Cheat Sheet
http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet.htm
425) Message boards : Number crunching : Seti Disregarding Count Changes In ap_info After V0.44 (Message 1759627)
Posted 27 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I tried setting count at 0.33 and 0.30 but the only acceptable entry is 0.3

?? - This just can't be true - unless there is strange bug in BOINC
Are you sure you edited ALL <count>1</count> (there are many) (unless you know you have tasks from only one <version_num> / <plan_class> combination)


I wonder if 0.25 still works in the new Lunatics?

This can't depend on any "new Lunatics"
- this value (and all of app_info.xml) is read and interpreted/used by BOINC, not by any app
426) Message boards : Number crunching : Abandoned Tasks (Message 1759614)
Posted 27 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Seeing how I have several tasks with a save-date of 7, 8, 9 and 12 October 2011 (!), and more of them from 2014 and 2015 in my ..\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\ folder, I wonder how much more crap I have in here. Oh look, 8 APs, while I have only got one.

I think it's time to set NNT, run down the cache, report all, exit BOINC and do a manual clean up. Erm that is, this project hasn't changed to Locality Scheduling, has it?

BOINC Rescheduler can search ([Test for lost files] button) and delete ([Delete lost files] button) but only SETI@home (MB) tasks, not for AstroPulse tasks

It checks for files with 3 or more dots in the filenames and looks if they are listed in client_state.xml
- I just tested with a fake file:

27 January 2016 - 10:12:28 Checking for lost files
27 January 2016 - 10:12:28 File not found: gggame.lo.g.txt ,this file should be deleted.
27 January 2016 - 10:12:28 Found: 1 files that are lost and need to be deleted
27 January 2016 - 10:12:41 Checking for lost files
27 January 2016 - 10:12:41 File not found: H:\BOINC-Data\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\gggame.lo.g.txt ,deleting.
27 January 2016 - 10:12:41 Found: 1 files that are lost and need to be deleted
27 January 2016 - 10:12:41 Deleted: 1 files
427) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Windows Format and Reinstall (Message 1759604)
Posted 27 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I copied the BOINC Task folder

Which directory did you copy exactly?

For this you have to have the entire BOINC Data directory and not only SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)

1) You put the old BOINC Data directory somewhere on the new HDD (in writeable place - e.g. do Not put in Program Files)
2) You install BOINC and during installation point it (choose) the copied BOINC Data directory
428) Questions and Answers : Windows : V8 very slow & wrong time (Message 1759602)
Posted 27 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If I only want to run CPU tasks, (no GPU) should i avoid lunatics app ?

On the contrary - CPU apps in the Lunatics Installer are much faster than the stock CPU app - maybe 120-150% but depends on CPU/system
The GPU apps in the Lunatics Installer are the same as stock (but using Lunatics allows the user to choose the exact app to run - e.g. CUDA 3.2)

Your CPU (AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+) should have SSE3 (SSE3 and SSE2 apps are almost the same speed, they are faster than the stock)
Your GPU (NVIDIA GeForce 9200 (253MB)) is probably too slow and low RAM to be of real use (but you can try CUDA 3.2 app if you wish).

The CPU apps don't need or use GPU

After installing Lunatics let some tasks to run to completion - only then decide if the real/total Run time/CPU time is OK
- the % Progress is not linear - e.g. I see some tasks on my ATI GPU to be 50% done after 25 minutes, then in the next 7-8 minutes the task finishes (100%) for a total time of 33 minutes.
- Tasks differ in Run time (maybe 2-3x) depending on "angle range" of the particular task.
- I don't think there is much difference in speed between SETI@home v7 and SETI@home v8

You need only one more "good" "Lunatics" task to have good estimates:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=7609404

SETI@home v8 (anonymous platform, CPU)
Number of tasks completed 10

This info may not be correct (be back in time) because: "Replica seconds behind master Offline"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html

The stock CPU app may hang at start on some CPUs/systems - happens randomly (in "Optimal function choice" - unless they changed that code recently - the issue exists for years)
When this hang occurs - the process uses 100% CPU core but there is no real progress (i.e. if the task is restarted it starts from 0%).
The (Lunatics) SSE3, SSE2,... apps don't have that "Optimal function choice" code.
 
429) Questions and Answers : Windows : V8 very slow & wrong time (Message 1759171)
Posted 25 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I think the problem im having has to do with my boinc tasks v 1.69
which was for seti 7, i dont think its been updated for seti 8.
that would explain why 'boinc tasks' shows est. completion times over 19+
hours per task, and in normal boinc they are only like between 2 and 8 hours.

1) BoincTasks don't need any update - I use BoincTasks 1.61 and there is no problem with SETI@home v8
BoincTasks don't depend on any SETI@home version - it works for any project and any application

2) Don't pay ANY attention to "est. completion times"

3) There is no difference between what is shown in BoincTasks and in "normal boinc" (BOINC Manager) (I'm using apps from Lunatics_Win32_v0.44_setup.exe)
- both BoincTasks and BOINC Manager show for SETI@home v8 the same "est. completion times" of 15-18 h - for the tasks that are computed by:
MB8_win_x86_SSE3_VS2008_r3330.exe
MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r3330.exe

Computer
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4832843

AMD Athlon(tm) II X3 455 Processor @ 3.31 GHz
AMD ATI Radeon HD 6570 @ 800/1050 MHz

You can see the Real times are Not 15-18 h
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=4832843&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=29
430) Questions and Answers : Windows : V8 very slow & wrong time (Message 1759170)
Posted 25 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
im not sure about the antivirus, ive used the same one for for a while now,
ESET smart security, was using it when i was running seti v 7 without issue.

I use ESET NOD32 Antivirus 4 for years and never needed to exclude BOINC Data directory
I also don't remember any report from users involving ESET (as I have seen for many other Antiviruses)
431) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Seti V8 crashing AMD Radeon 5700 HD card. Latest GPU driver for card is installed (Message 1759165)
Posted 25 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
You can try a Setting to reduce lag and driver restarts

Go to SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)
If you don't know where is <BOINC_Data> directory - look the first lines in your Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E) - it is shown as "Data directory:"

In ...\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\ you will see some .txt files with zero length (0 bytes, empty)
Find the one with similar name (your may have different name but will start with mb_cmdline):
mb_cmdline_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5.txt

Edit the file with Notepad and put the following line in it:
-period_iterations_num 200

'Snooze GPU' for a few seconds to enable the new Settings

P.S.
The default value is 50 as you can see in stderr.txt
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4671593243

Used GPU device parameters are:
Number of compute units: 10
Single buffer allocation size: 128MB
Total device global memory: 1024MB
max WG size: 256
local mem type: Real
LotOfMem path: no
period_iterations_num=50


Lower values make the GPU work harder
Higher values like 200 will Reduce the load (reduce lag and possibility of driver restarts)
You may try even 300 or 400


! If you want to return to the default - make the file empty again, do Not delete the file!
 
432) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Seti V8 crashing AMD Radeon 5700 HD card. Latest GPU driver for card is installed (Message 1758713)
Posted 23 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You have only 3 tasks "Error while computing" and they are not 3-4 seconds:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7904629&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=29

You have 11 Valid tasks (and 4 that finished OK and are "pending")
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7904629&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=29

(All of them are GPU tasks: SETI@home v8 v8.00 (opencl_ati5_cat132))


If you now see what you describe (with currently running tasks) - first try to Reboot the computer
433) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.44 - new release for v8 (required upgrade) (Message 1758702)
Posted 23 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Just to clarify this point further, does this mean if we are using the stock apps currently with modern GPUs/CPUs, there is no performance advantage going with the Lunatics install at this point in time?

Yes for GPUs

Maybe there is "advantage going with the Lunatics" even for GPUs
- Apps may be the same but the server may not choose the best variant (or take too much time to settle on "the best")
- There are no Settings for stock to select exactly what you want to run on every device, e.g. only SETI@home v8 on CPU + only AstroPulse on ATI AMD + only SETI@home v8 CUDA 5 on NVIDIA
434) Message boards : Number crunching : Your kooky computers (Message 1758691)
Posted 23 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
But your kooky computer ...

"your"?? Who do you think you are talking to?

The project servers are computers too. And quite often kooky ;)

OK, but why "your"?
He seems to think he is talking to someone that have control on the servers.
435) Message boards : News : SETI@home Version 8 for Android and GPU to be released January, 21st (Message 1758615)
Posted 23 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I am trying to download version 8 to beta test my ATI HD 4970 card. All I can find is 7.6.22, which I am already running. Am I doing something wrong?

7.6.22 is the version of BOINC
Version of BOINC have no connection to version of SETI@home v8

In the first post here - there is a link posted 2 times and "hidden" under words "beta" and "join":
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/
436) Questions and Answers : Windows : Seti disepeared from project list and can not join again (Message 1758612)
Posted 23 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I think the clue lies in these two lines:

23.01.2016 12:13:47 | | [error] Couldn't parse account file account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml
23.01.2016 12:13:47 | | [error] Couldn't parse statistics_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml

...
Delete these two files from the BOINC data directory (or rename).
Now try to re-attach to the project as a returning user.

Yes, this should work.
He can also copy account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml from another (of his) computers - in which case no re-attach will be needed, BOINC will see the file and attach to (Add) SETI@home automatically

(Those files were probably damaged after computer hang / BSOD / electricity stop / ...)
437) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.44 - new release for v8 (required upgrade) (Message 1758603)
Posted 23 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Windows 8.1 x64, GT730, 347.52 driver will work with all nVIDIA apps which are included in the 0.44 Installer?

From first post:
Cuda 2.3: PreFermi - NOT to be used on Fermi/Kepler/Maxwell
Cuda 3.2: mixed systems
Cuda 4.2: Fermi
Cuda 5.0: Kepler/Maxwell


Just SAHv8 CUDA or also OpenCL app is included for nVIDIA VGA cards?

You can see by yourself by opening the Lunatics_Win64_v0.44_setup.exe with 7-Zip
- this way I see it is NOT included (No MB8 OpenCL for nVIDIA)
438) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.44 - new release for v8 (required upgrade) (Message 1758594)
Posted 23 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Very small visual 7ypo (which don't really need correction) on ATI and Intel pages:
Can you spot it ;)

439) Message boards : Number crunching : At least which internet speed for online gaming? (Message 1758591)
Posted 23 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If everybody upload 80 kbit/s during online gaming (LAN party)...

If I would play World of Tanks, there play 15 against 15.

So then my PC get infos from 29 other PCs (where the others are, what they do and so on...).

This are 29 x 80 kbit/s = 2320 kbit/s infos, which my PC need to download?

You better ask on the forum of particular game. (maybe only 100-200 bytes are sent each second? But I don't know about this game)
Probably more important is the ping time (lag) than the speed?
440) Message boards : Number crunching : Your kooky computers (Message 1758586)
Posted 23 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
But your kooky computer ...

"your"?? Who do you think you are talking to?
441) Message boards : Number crunching : Slot Directory Errors on a new system TRY 2 (Message 1758561)
Posted 23 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
OpenedFilesView
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/opened_files_view.html

OpenedFilesView displays the list of all opened files on your system.
For each opened file, additional information is displayed: handle value, read/write/delete access, file position, the process that opened the file, and more...
Optionally, you can also close one or more opened files, or close the process that opened these files.
442) Questions and Answers : Windows : List of Seti@home URLs (Message 1758529)
Posted 23 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
We don't know the syntax your firewall (?) uses, is this possible?:
http?://*.berkeley.edu/*


Search in my boinc.exe 6.10.58 shows:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/project_list.php - list to Add projects
http://www.google.com/ - BOINC uses this to check that Internet connection is OK
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php?xml=1 - I think to check for new BOINC versions

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/symstore - these 2 URLs if BOINC crashes?
http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
443) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.44 - new release for v8 (required upgrade) (Message 1758526)
Posted 23 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Because of some slight gremlins with the new Lunatics software, we are distributing the installer as a .zip file this time - you will have to extract the executable file before running it. Sorry about that.

No need to sorry - I feel a .zip file have some advantages:
- Less probability that some bad Antivirus will flag (quarantine) a .zip file
- If partial (unfinished) Download - it will be impossible to extract and run broken .exe
- The extracted .exe file will have the same date for everybody - no matter when the .zip is Downloaded
- The .exe file will have the proper filename casing (Lunatics_Win32_v0.44_setup.exe) (on Mike's site the filenames are always lowercase (lunatics_win32_v0.44_setup.exe) which I don't like for aesthetic and easy-read reasons)
- You can put some other files in the .zip - e.g. ReadMe, screenshots from the installer, MD5 checksums
bbd00fc3309fb37b208a4d9d2214f5c3 *Lunatics_Win32_v0.44_setup.exe
321d40b23aec946e233c81d767020f69 *Lunatics_Win64_v0.44_setup.exe

P.S.
This time there are only a few 'False Positives':

Lunatics_Win32_v0.44_setup.exe (Detection ratio: 3 / 51 ("Antivirus scan timed out" shown for 3 of the Antiviruses))
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/65b8a7f63b87d94f68823a3a8720d7166b363206b258c026830195d3b5fc81a7/analysis/

Lunatics_Win64_v0.44_setup.exe (Detection ratio: 1 / 55)
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/455d052cca6cdc9e8d8acae34e24411b7ab1c201201be38b73faa76b1572dd7f/analysis/
444) Message boards : Number crunching : "Intel Skylake bug seizes up PCs running complex workloads." Any expirience with S@H? (Message 1757633)
Posted 20 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
How will Intel fix this CPU bug?
In the BIOS is then an option to disable AVX?

No, the BIOS loads new Microcode in the CPU at boot time (this new Microcode will change how the CPU do AVX instructions internally, probably no speed change but only "correctness" of AVX instructions)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microcode
445) Questions and Answers : Windows : V8 very slow & wrong time (Message 1757615)
Posted 20 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
is it true seti@home is phasing out version 7 all together?

You can see by yourself that no new SETI@home v7 WUs are created ("Results ready to send 0" and "Results out in the field 740,778" drop down every day):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html
446) Questions and Answers : Windows : List of Seti@home URLs (Message 1757614)
Posted 20 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Can't you just allow all *berkeley.edu/
447) Questions and Answers : Windows : Screen saver always on! (Message 1757613)
Posted 20 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Found the Show Graphics, and it's off

Select a "Running" task to make the button active
448) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : No progress (hanging) astropulse open_intel_gpu_102 (Message 1757612)
Posted 20 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The only way to remove the "hanging" task is by aborting the task.

And which other "ways" did you try?
E.g. Snooze GPU (for a moment - to Restart the task/app), Restart computer (to reload drivers - sometimes they may be in unstable state)

You may try to ask in Number Crunching which is the best Intel driver for your Intel HD Graphics 4600
(some Intel drivers are not good but I don't know the details)
449) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : No signals indicated in Astropulse WU's (Message 1757609)
Posted 20 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Click in the leftmost column to see the "signals":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7855499&offset=0&show_names=0&state=2&appid=20

E.g. this one show:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4661062106
    single pulses: 3
repetitive pulses: 1
450) Questions and Answers : Preferences : New BOINC for Mac (7.6.11) will not show graphics (Message 1757608)
Posted 20 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Problem solved with BOINC Manager 7.6.22.

Wrong conclusion
451) Questions and Answers : Web site : Can't get SETI@homev8 to load (Message 1757606)
Posted 20 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Any ideas?

Your "Computers hidden" so give link to result page
Or give the task name

(maybe .jpg error or Antivirus / firewall interferes but if you can't see this by yourself you need to give much more info)
452) Questions and Answers : Windows : CPUs maxed out after V8 (Message 1757056)
Posted 17 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Other activities on the machine slow to a crawl.

I never experienced this ("machine slow to a crawl") - as the CPU tasks/processes run an Low priority (as you can see by Windows Task Manager, Process Explorer, ...)


If I can't find a solution ...

Computing preferences

At "Computing" (top) section there are many "solutions", e.g.:
Use at most 50% of the CPUs
Suspend when computer is in use
...


P.S.
CPUs were always "maxed out" by default, this is not something new "after V8"
453) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Average credit going up and down (Message 1756658)
Posted 15 Jan 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I've been bouncing around from the 1050's to low 1070's for a week

Normal fluctuation.

You have Validation pending (20) (20 finished by you tasks wait to be confirmed by other computers)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7853935&offset=0&show_names=0&state=2&appid=29

RAC is speedometer but it don't show "your speed" immediately, it depends on other people/computers to confirm it.
454) Message boards : Number crunching : Error: finish file present too long (Message 1751795)
Posted 26 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Online is shown:
[4] AMD AMD Radeon (TM) R9 Fury Series (4096MB) OpenCL: 2.0

(maybe just one time 'AMD'?)

The first "AMD" is hard-coded in the web-page-generating code:
https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/blob/aba6d8de95e4f60118ea34e8e1d60836bb43c326/html/inc/host.inc#L120
https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/blob/edfa2bf428934ccfa17175465c5768f35b726c52/html/inc/host.inc#L265

} else if ($d[0] == "CAL") {
$str .= "AMD";

(this obviously is to prepend the generic names like "Fiji" "Turks" "Pitcairn" ...)


The second "AMD" is part of the full string as returned by the driver:
"AMD Radeon (TM) R9 Fury Series"
455) Message boards : Number crunching : Error: finish file present too long (Message 1750962)
Posted 22 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
clinfo.exe from the driver shows 'Board name':
(I may post the full text (156 lines) if requested)

in Command Prompt (cmd.exe) typed 'clinfo'
clinfo.exe (159 744 bytes, 09.11.2011) was started from D:\Program Files\AMD APP\bin\x86\ (which is in the %Path%)
clinfo.exe itself started amdocl_as.exe from the same directory

56b986d13c74903fe27b71ba85c76037 *amdocl_as.exe
dd169b5f417931d642e9c33706c8e347 *clinfo.exe

Number of platforms:				 1
  Platform Profile:				 FULL_PROFILE
  Platform Version:				 OpenCL 1.1 AMD-APP (831.4)
  Platform Name:				 AMD Accelerated Parallel Processing
  Platform Vendor:				 Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
  Platform Extensions:				 cl_khr_icd cl_amd_event_callback cl_amd_offline_devices


  Platform Name:				 AMD Accelerated Parallel Processing
Number of devices:				 2
  Device Type:					 CL_DEVICE_TYPE_GPU
  Device ID:					 4098
  Board name:					 AMD Radeon HD 6570
  Max compute units:				 6
  Max work items dimensions:			 3
    Max work items[0]:				 256
    Max work items[1]:				 256
    Max work items[2]:				 256
  Max work group size:				 256



Using another clinfo.exe (713 728 bytes, 21.02.2011) (which don't start any other .exe)
d470daaaef37fc6499b3bc5bc61ad553 *clinfo.exe
do Not show 'Board name' (and some other ~20 lines are missing - 136 lines total log)

Number of platforms:				 1
  Platform Profile:				 FULL_PROFILE
  Platform Version:				 OpenCL 1.1 AMD-APP (831.4)
  Platform Name:				 AMD Accelerated Parallel Processing
  Platform Vendor:				 Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
  Platform Extensions:				 cl_khr_icd cl_amd_event_callback cl_amd_offline_devices


  Platform Name:				 AMD Accelerated Parallel Processing
Number of devices:				 2
  Device Type:					 CL_DEVICE_TYPE_GPU
  Device ID:					 4098
  Max compute units:				 6
  Max work items dimensions:			 3
    Max work items[0]:				 256
    Max work items[1]:				 256
    Max work items[2]:				 256
  Max work group size:				 256
456) Message boards : Number crunching : Error: finish file present too long (Message 1750929)
Posted 21 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
(Catalyst 11.12) / XP

For OpenCL 1.2 APP SDK 2.7 is needed, which starts at Catalyst 12.4

The sentence also included this:
"so here it doesn't matter which driver you have installed"

So driver matters if bellow Catalyst 12.4

Nevertheless maybe cl_amd_device_attribute_query will work partially even on OpenCL 1.1 driver:
https://www.khronos.org/registry/cl/extensions/amd/cl_amd_device_attribute_query.txt
Revision History
Version 1, 2010/03/26 (Laurent Morichetti) - initial extension specification.
Version 2, 2015/03/08 (Brian Sumner) - update query list


Question is what was updated/added on 2015/03/08:

As was 2010-2014
https://web.archive.org/web/20140806045615/http://www.khronos.org/registry/cl/extensions/amd/cl_amd_device_attribute_query.txt

= Very bare for OpenCL 1.0 - only one param, no revision/change for OpenCL 1.1
https://web.archive.org/web/20100401000000*/https://www.khronos.org/registry/cl/extensions/amd/cl_amd_device_attribute_query.txt
457) Message boards : Number crunching : Error: finish file present too long (Message 1750905)
Posted 21 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
All GPUs from HD5xxx onwards are at least OpenCL 1.2 complaint, so here it doesn't matter which driver you have installed, as long as it has OpenCL included and still supports the older hardware.

For my system it seems not true:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4832843

AMD Radeon HD 6570 / Turks
ati2mtag 8.920.0.0 (Catalyst 11.12) / XP
CAL 1.4.1646
OpenCL 1.1 AMD-APP (831.4) FULL_PROFILE

Detected by GPU Caps Viewer
http://www.ozone3d.net/gpudb/gpu.php?which=3581&v=2#opencl

and SETI@home apps:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4596948648


cl_amd_device_attribute_query shown among OpenCL extensions for this driver, so why there is:

Dependencies
OpenCL 1.2 is required.
https://www.khronos.org/registry/cl/extensions/amd/cl_amd_device_attribute_query.txt
458) Questions and Answers : Windows : Latest Windows 10 update broke AMD GPU app on FirePro M3900 (Message 1750870)
Posted 21 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You have no choice in this.

I'm not sure (can't test, have no Windows 10) but I think these two programs can disable the automatic driver installation:

O&O ShutUp10
http://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

Picture:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77121&postid=1725313#1725313




Windows 10 and video driver updates - Rage3D Discussion Area
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=34023963


W10Privacy
http://www.winprivacy.de/english-home/

http://www.winprivacy.de/deutsch-start/versionshistorie/
1.3.0.1 (24.08.2015)
- Correction of the registry keys with respect to 64-bit systems, disabling the automatic driver installation.

1.1.1.0 (17.08.2015)
• option to disable automatic driver software installation
459) Message boards : Number crunching : AVG creating havoc with seti rig (Message 1750579)
Posted 20 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Isn't that just another antivirus software vendor making sure that any competitors product gets kicked out before their own gets installed?

- In many cases this ("competitors product gets kicked out") is needed (i.e. "Real-Time protection" is probably not compatible between vendors)
- This was more info on your: "Have you ever tried to de-install Symantec/Norton stuff?" (if user already decided to de-install you can't blame another companies for providing info how to do that)

- All the links are to tools/info from the corresponding vendors, e.g.:
Norton (Symantec) ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/removal_tools/Norton_Removal_Tool.exe

- The "ESET AV Remover tool" removes also ESET products
- Did you see the screenshots?
You are presented a list of found antivirus software and you decide what to remove and what to keep (e.g. keep OnDemand scanners)
http://support.eset.com/kb3527/

(and again - I never used/tested this tool, I can't vote how correctly it works)
460) Message boards : Number crunching : AVG creating havoc with seti rig (Message 1750566)
Posted 20 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Have you ever tried to de-install Symantec/Norton stuff? Good luck with that one!

ESET have a list/links of "Uninstallers (removal tools) for common Windows antivirus software"
http://support.eset.com/kb146/

I never used "ESET AV Remover tool" (it is something new to me, was not available 1-2 years ago)
but they claim: "The ESET AV Remover tool will remove almost any antivirus software previously installed on your system"
461) Message boards : Number crunching : Error: finish file present too long (Message 1750532)
Posted 20 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Now it's not possible to edit boinc.exe with a Hex Editor ...

Why? It have some check for it's checksum?
Or you don't find the string "AMD Fiji"? (this string is retrieved from the driver and is not in boinc.exe)

But, as you see from other posts, the future BOINC versions will get the full name from (newer?) drivers
(I don't know which is the minimum ATI AMD driver version that have the extensions needed to get the full name)
462) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (101) Server Problems? (Message 1750521)
Posted 20 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So not so good to use '-v 0' in cmdline?
I thought this way the file for upload would be a thing smaller (less bandwidth usage @ SETI)... - no?

stderr.txt is usually only a few KB big (-v 0 don't change the size of any other file)
If stderr.txt go over 64 KB (on disk) (e.g. because of too many restarts) - only the last 64 KB are sent to server

A few KB + (when using the default -v 1) "is insignificant next to the power of the Force" ;) (the today's Internet traffic/speed)
463) Questions and Answers : Windows : [error] Couldn't parse account file (Message 1750516)
Posted 20 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I *did Add Project - "yes, existing user" - SETI - (sorry, impatient)

You could just copy account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml from another computer (while BOINC is Not running) - (maybe) this will not Abandon tasks


Ageless:
Re-adding Seti isn't going to work, as this file gets written to on each and every scheduler contact your BOINC has with the server, and the server is sending new info on credit and RAC

"this file" = statistics_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml
"isn't going to work" = will not restore statistics_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml to the previous state, will restore/create account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml

You can copy statistics_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml from another computer if you care only about (to look at) user_total_credit and not host_total_credit

Your "flash drive backup" will work for both files.
Now, that you have Re-added SETI@home, copy only statistics_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml (again: while BOINC is Not running)

If you keep only 1 month statistics - i.e. you don't have similar line in cc_config.xml
<save_stats_days>3650</save_stats_days>
... and Your "flash drive backup" is older than a month - no need to copy statistics (will not accomplish anything unless you also put beforehand (before starting BOINC) in cc_config.xml <save_stats_days>)
464) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (101) Server Problems? (Message 1750064)
Posted 18 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
ap_14oc11ab_B0_P1_00022_20151209_27515.wu
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1995526780

3 same results, but 1 invalid, why?

Not sure if it matters, but the first result had no info about the pulses found, etc. Looked truncated? Or is that just difference in the code between Cuda and AMD implementations?

I think "the first result had no info about the pulses found" because:
Verbose level set to:0

I also don't think setting Verbose level to 0 have any noticeable effect on speed/Run-time

Those values are available (and they are the "same" (very small difference in peak_power=3792.419 vs 3792.42)) for the 2 other tasks:

Rep. pulse: num_std_devs=6.859 peak_power=3792.419 dm=2800 peak_bin=1104 scale=4 ffa_scale=0 period=308.0001
Single pulse: peak_power=130.109 dm=7290 fft_num=1196032 peak_bin=1200512 scale=6
Single pulse: peak_power=364.529 dm=9205 fft_num=28950528 peak_bin=28963840 scale=8
Single pulse: peak_power=61.9814 dm=9739 fft_num=1605632 peak_bin=1610560 scale=4
Single pulse: peak_power=364.027 dm=-13886 fft_num=21151744 peak_bin=21167104 scale=8

We (and Dirk) can't compare his result to the 2 others as he chose to use -v 0
 
465) Questions and Answers : Web site : Re activation of an old account (Message 1749894)
Posted 17 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If you are asking about a "Classic" account then you only need to know the old email address and password ...

Only "the e-mail address of the Classic account" (no need for password)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php
466) Message boards : Number crunching : Error: finish file present too long (Message 1749168)
Posted 14 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Note: if you, before starting BOINC, go to BOINC-Data\slots\ and delete all found there boinc_finish_called files - the tasks will restart at ~99% and finish OK
467) Message boards : Number crunching : Error: finish file present too long (Message 1749165)
Posted 14 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
2013:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73191
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73704

2015:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77925
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=78498

Edit 1:
The "finish file" (zero length, 0 B) is created by the app in BOINC-Data\slots\ with name:
boinc_finish_called

BOINC checks for presence of this file to know that the app finished all Computing
If the time of the file is "too old" (was 10 seconds, may be more in newer BOINC versions) BOINC aborts the task

You probably suspended BOINC when some task was at 99.9% - app finished (and created boinc_finish_called) at the "same" moment you suspended BOINC
Hours later when you started BOINC boinc_finish_called was "too old"

Edit 2:
Richard posted while I was typing Edit 1: :)
468) Message boards : Number crunching : AVG creating havoc with seti rig (Message 1749154)
Posted 14 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESET
"ESET set a world-record when it received 80 consecutive VB100 awards from Virus Bulletin"

Which means what exactly? That it's always good, or only at the time the test was done? That everyone in the world should use only ESET in your opinion?

This was only argument against toptenreviews' "best order":
"The fact they ("toptenreviews") put ESET NOD32 Antivirus as last (??) is outright wrong"

ESET is free to try for 30 days (I think)
It will continue to work after that, only will not fetch new signatures until new Username/Password is given.
I like it is light (low RAM and CPU), do not schedule "Full disk scan", is not flagging cracks unless they are really bad, I never needed to exclude BOINC Data directory

Example how keys look like (OLD Not-working key found somewhere on Internet)
Username: EAV-0110386405
Password: 4hvk8exe9f
Expiry Date: 19.07.2014

(My ISP gives free Username/Password for ESET with some of its contracts)
469) Message boards : Number crunching : AVG creating havoc with seti rig (Message 1748682)
Posted 12 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm going to get myself a 3 PC package for 2 years from G Data, the creators of the first AV software in the world.

I'll be test running it on 2 PCs first. Just to be sure.

Edit: of course, according to http://anti-virus-software-review.toptenreviews.com/ we should go for Bitdefender. ;-)

You put ;-) but just to be clear for others - this site have Bad Reputation:
https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/anti-virus-software-review.toptenreviews.com

And G Data uses the BitDefender engine (I know this from the same False-Positives on VirusTotal - when BitDefender "throws" all 6-7 of the dependent on it Antiviruses also "throw")

The fact they ("toptenreviews") put ESET NOD32 Antivirus as last (??) is outright wrong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESET
"ESET set a world-record when it received 80 consecutive VB100 awards from Virus Bulletin"

https://www.eset.com/int/download/home/
https://www.eset.com/int/download/home/detail/family/2/

I still use ESET NOD32 Antivirus 4 on Windows XP (I just like the GUI)
The current version is 9.0.349.0 but they still support (update signatures) all versions from 3 to 9 as you can see by clicking "Other versions" on the last link.
The same license (Username + Password) can be used for all versions.


Some charts comparing ~20 Antiviruses:

Real-World Protection Test
http://chart.av-comparatives.org/chart1.php?chart=chart2&year=2015&month=10&sort=0&zoom=0

False Alarm Test
http://chart.av-comparatives.org/chart1.php?chart=chart6&year=2015&month=9&sort=0
 
470) Message boards : Number crunching : Maxwell 9xx series low GPU load (Message 1748666)
Posted 12 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Check for bad drivers by:

DPC Latency Checker
http://www.thesycon.de/eng/latency_check.shtml

LatencyMon
http://www.resplendence.com/latencymon
471) Questions and Answers : Windows : SETI@Home problems after RAM increase (Message 1748309)
Posted 11 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The behaviour I see is "odd"/strange = unstable system

You have some (3 at the moment) tasks finished OK:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7338558&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7338558&offset=0&show_names=0&state=2&appid=

When app crashes ("Error while computing") it may:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7338558&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=

- crash soon (in seconds)
- run longer (30-60 minutes)
- give "all kind" of Error Messages:

uncaptured error before launch (ac_RepackInputKernel<<<grid, block>>>( &dev_PowerSpectrum[ac_fftlen*fft_num], dev_AutoCorrIn )), file c:/[Projects]/__Sources/sah_v7_opt/Xbranch/client/cuda/cudaAcc_autocorr.cu, line 188: out of memory
Exiting


Error on call (cudaMemcpy(PowerSpectrumSumMax, dev_PowerSpectrumSumMax, (cudaAcc_NumDataPoints / fftlen) * sizeof(*dev_PowerSpectrumSumMax), cudaMemcpyDeviceToHost)), file c:/[Projects]/__Sources/sah_v7_opt/Xbranch/client/cuda/cudaAcc_summax.cu, line 252: out of memory
Exiting


Cuda error 'cufftPlan1d(&fft_analysis_plans[FftNum][0], FftLen, CUFFT_C2C, NumDataPoints / FftLen)' in file 'c:/[Projects]/__Sources/sah_v7_opt/Xbranch/client/cuda/cudaAcc_fft.cu' in line 21 : out of memory.
A cuFFT plan FAILED, Initiating Boinc temporary exit (180 secs)



For me this random behaviour suggests Hardware problem
- high temperature
- low / unstable voltage


What is your PSU ?
Does it have enough "real" Watts? (i.e. is it "good brand" or no-name)
Does it have enough current (A) on 12 V line?

Try to reseat the card (remove from slot and put it again, maybe 2-3 times to clean the contacts)

GeForce 8800 GTS (G80) consumes 146 W - so it should have additional power (= not only from the PCIe slot) by 1-2 sockets on it to connect power cables from the PSU
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_8_series#8800_GTS
472) Questions and Answers : Windows : Intel XEON Phi (Coprocessor) with Boinc ? (Message 1748285)
Posted 11 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This was asked before:
2012:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70038
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68524

2013:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72020

2014:
ivan: "I have a Xeon Phi. I gave up on trying to port BOINC and S@H to it. For the best performance you have to run native code on the Phi cluster (otherwise communication bottlenecks between the host and the cluster slow you down). That would mean running BOINC on the Phi as well ..."
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76128&postid=1602280#1602280

So try to ask ivan
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=25448
473) Questions and Answers : Windows : Why does BOINC need to load 4 copies of the screensaver? (Message 1748282)
Posted 11 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm not sure what this program is showing.
Maybe it monitors what was started but don't mention that it was closed almost immediately after BOINC startup.
Probably the "two copies" are boincscr.exe & boinc.scr - if you Right-Click the line maybe will show more info?

I prefer Autoruns
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902.aspx

and Process Explorer
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653
474) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI Radeon HD 4670 256 MB (Message 1748109)
Posted 10 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
WARNING: This application needs newer GPU, at least ATI Radeon HD 5000 needed, exiting !

Only "opencl_ati5_mac" and "opencl_ati5zc_mac" apps say that
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4581386641
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4581344768

The plain "opencl_ati_mac" tries to run:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4580522160

So deleting all *.bin* files may help/test to run at least one "opencl_ati_mac" task
475) Questions and Answers : Windows : Why does BOINC need to load 4 copies of the screensaver? (Message 1748106)
Posted 10 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
That display says BOINCMgr is loading 4 copies of the screensaver

Picture of "That display"?

Probably you see these?:
boincmgr.exe
boinc.exe
boinctray.exe
boincscr.exe
476) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Is it possible to set a custom background? (Message 1748105)
Posted 10 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
it still took a while to appear as my background (let it run overnight; in the AM it had automagically updated)

I think the new picture should show immediately if you:
1) [Update] the project (SETI@home) (from BOINC Manager)
2) Restart BOINC (maybe even Snooze / Un-Snooze will be enough)
 
477) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1747388)
Posted 7 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Dad DOES NOT do hardware; NOR software... He can BARELY use a computer; if he had his way, he'd still have a typewriter!!!

Well, typewriter is still a Technology despite mechanical ...

I wonder what our grand grandfathers said in the old days ;)
Maybe "Kick that stupid noisy typewriter, it gives me a headache! I will stick to my good ol' pencil"

And what our grandchildren will say to us in not too distant future ;)

-- Hey, grandpa, you call that big thing on the table "a computer"??

Everyone knows that computer is what you connect directly to your brain.
Mine is implanted in my body since I was born.
But I think I want a new implant, it's very cool...
The new model from B-Soft BrainSwarm™ connects you to the BrainCloud® and you can see and feel and share all you do to 1000's of brains non-stop
It's very cool and it's beyond me why you old people don't want it...
 

We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

There was also an episode of SG-1 where everyone's brains were wired into the central computer. Whenever somebody got uppity (questioning the authority of the computer or whatever information it gave them), it would order somebody to kill that person and then modify the memories of everyone else so that the person had effectively never existed.

When I typed that I didn't used any sources - I was thinking of Windows 10, Facebook, Android, the newest mini-micro-flat-portable-touchable things and the way teenagers are eager to make "friends" online ...

I just coined names B-Soft BrainSwarm™ BrainCloud®
But now when you say "an episode of SG-1" have similar plot I asked myself: am I the first to "invent" these ™ and ®

The funny thing is - They Already Exist!
http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22B-Soft%22

http://www.fastcompany.com/3014839/leadership-now/shelter-from-the-storm-why-brainswarming-is-the-future-of-collaboration
https://hbr.org/video/3373616535001/brainswarming-because-brainstorming-doesnt-work

http://braincloud.jhmi.edu/
http://getbraincloud.com/
478) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows 10 upgrade BOINC issues (Message 1747348)
Posted 7 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
No changes with antivirus products (Norton 360) or other security products

Did you check the logs of Norton 360 (I use ESET NOD32 Antivirus and am unfamiliar with Norton 360)
for anything "Blocked" or "Quarantined"

Probably the next is not the cause of the problem but:
What are the Settings for:
Memory
When computer is in use, use at most XX%
When computer is not in use, use at most YY%

in Computing preferences

or Local preferences
479) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows 10 upgrade BOINC issues (Message 1747343)
Posted 7 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
You have many Valid tasks computed by this app (SETI@home v7 v7.00 = setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe) (Run time 1-3 hours)
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7396520&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=

The Error tasks show Run time 8-9 hours but CPU time 0.5-1.5 hours - which probably means they were hang for a long time waiting for something:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7396520&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=

The Error is shown as:
"The system cannot find the path specified"
...
"fftw: ../../kernel/alloc.c:269: assertion failed: p"
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4572780116

(This is some code in fftw library - libfftw3f-3-3-4_x86.dll or similar file.
I don't know what is on line 269 in alloc.c and what "assertion failed: p" is talking about.
)


Did you try to:
- Restart BOINC
- Restart Windows
- "Cold Boot" the computer

- Re-install BOINC

Did you change the Antivirus or other "security" product?
 
480) Questions and Answers : Preferences : How to remove old Number of Hosts (Message 1747340)
Posted 7 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?sort=rpc_time&rev=0&show_all=1&userid=9230080

Click Details (at left)
Click Delete this computer (at bottom of every computer page, shown only if computer have no tasks)
481) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : Installation of Boinc (Message 1747009)
Posted 5 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Normally, BOINC starts up in the language which the computer is set to use.

What happens if BOINC "don't know" the language set in the OS?
Will BOINC default to English?
Or will it set the first "known" language?

The first "real" language (alphabetically, on the top of the list) in BOINC version I use (6.10.58) is Abkhazian. The list begins:

(Unknown)
Abkhazian
Afar
Afrikaans
...
482) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1746742)
Posted 4 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Dad DOES NOT do hardware; NOR software... He can BARELY use a computer; if he had his way, he'd still have a typewriter!!!

Well, typewriter is still a Technology despite mechanical ...

I wonder what our grand grandfathers said in the old days ;)
Maybe "Kick that stupid noisy typewriter, it gives me a headache! I will stick to my good ol' pencil"

And what our grandchildren will say to us in not too distant future ;)

-- Hey, grandpa, you call that big thing on the table "a computer"??

Everyone knows that computer is what you connect directly to your brain.
Mine is implanted in my body since I was born.
But I think I want a new implant, it's very cool...
The new model from B-Soft BrainSwarm™ connects you to the BrainCloud® and you can see and feel and share all you do to 1000's of brains non-stop
It's very cool and it's beyond me why you old people don't want it...
 
483) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1746731)
Posted 4 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Dad DOES NOT do hardware; NOR software... He can BARELY use a computer; if he had his way, he'd still have a typewriter!!!

Well, typewriter is still a Technology despite mechanical ...
I wonder what our grand grandfathers said in the old days ;)
Maybe "Kick that stupid noisy typewriter, it gives me a headache! I will stick to my good ol' pencil"
484) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1746722)
Posted 4 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Did you found the "Mopier Mode" Setting?
They say it is "enabled by default" so if you do some "Reset to defaults" it will be ON
Also look for "collate" and disable it.


Went back to Printer Properties and saw that my "change" was ignored, or reset to 1 copy

I think this is known from Windows 98 / Word 97 days (at least for me)

You first need to exit all programs that can print! (Word, Adobe, ...) (else they (programs) will return the Printer Settings at the state when the program was started)
Only then look and change "Printer Properties" from Start Menu
485) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : Installation of Boinc (Message 1746692)
Posted 4 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
EDIT: this post was composed before I was able to see the post by Charlie Fenton

No, because on the Mac the menus are at the top of the screen, not on BOINC Manager. Also, if it's really a Middle Eastern language, it'll probably read right to left.

He say "language from the East of Europe" but if he don't know the language this may be wrong
If it's in Cyrillic it may be in Bulgarian (my language)

Screenshot of what he see will be helpful

These I found on web - but maybe they are from older BOINC:








And this is from your old FAQ "How do I install BOINC and attach to a project on the Mac?" (25/02/2007):
http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?viewCat=9&sessionID=a8e515f67a619a05672cec2e01a9bc52

Pic:
http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/resources/mac_pics/13_Attach1.png
486) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : Installation of Boinc (Message 1746638)
Posted 3 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Normally, that would be through a menu option (Options->Other Options->General->Language)

Probably he can just look at your wiki and spot what to click by visual position:
BOINC Manager Menu



487) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1746613)
Posted 3 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Usually the printer driver have it's own Settings for the number of copies
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=cr#q=hp%20printer%20driver%20number%20of%20copies

If you had the opposite problem - you set (in Word) 3 copies and the printer do 6 - I would say "you set 2 copies in the printer driver Options and so every page sent from a program is duplicated (3*2=6)"

Nevertheless check the printer driver Options/Settings/Properties

E.g. this talks about some "HP printer option called Mopier Mode"
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-hardware/my-hp-laserjet-1200-printer-will-not-print/150eaf39-63a5-4c86-b047-873631a3e39a?auth=1

"Disabling Mopier Mode in Windows Vista/7" (post by Aaron Gallaway on "HP Printer won't Print Multiple Copies")
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/81049-hp-printer-won-t-print-multiple-copies?page=1#entry-1570229
488) Message boards : Number crunching : OpenCL onATI Radeon HD 4670 worked. Once. (Message 1746606)
Posted 3 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
AstroPulse_Kernels_r2750.cl
MultiBeam_Kernels_r2936.cl

NOT these 2 - as you see they are Not .bin files

Only delete what matches:
*.bin*
489) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc 7.6.9 and 2 GPU (Message 1746494)
Posted 3 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I found it only did this with 0.20 as the count but I did find you had to be careful about the number of decimals you used.

So you now use <count>0.20</count> and you see 9 CUDA tasks running?
What other values did you try?

I suspect there may be some rounding bug/change in BOINC 7.6.9 as there were some other similar reports:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=78473

Can you try and report what happens with other values:
0.49
0.5
0.500000
0.33
0.25
0.2
0.19999
0.19

The problem values may be: 0.5 0.25 0.2
490) Message boards : Number crunching : Transferred BOINC (Message 1746455)
Posted 3 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
How can I get it from the external to the laptop?

Exit BOINC
Copy the BOINC Data directory to the internal drive
Uninstall BOINC
Install BOINC again and tell it to use that BOINC Data directory:

http://isaac.ssl.berkeley.edu/wiki/Installing_BOINC
http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?language=1&view=344

491) Message boards : Number crunching : Does 3D screen saver affect CUDA activity? (Message 1746440)
Posted 3 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
One after another, people running a Macintosh are asking where the Seti screen saver went.
It's not available for their Seti v7 or Astropulse applications.

It's not available only for the newer CPU apps (avx ssse3 sse41) introduced on 18 Sep 2015
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

The old app (29 May 2013) (setiathome_7.00_i686-apple-darwin + the Graphics part setigraphics_7.00_i686-apple-darwin)
is still distributed and on the SETI@home servers:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=78228&postid=1734104#1734104

Of course the server will send more often tasks for the faster CPU apps
492) Message boards : Number crunching : HTML Question (Message 1746430)
Posted 3 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Define "buggers up other things" and "screws up other parts of my page"
I don't see any visual problem/difference except that the first page have 2 frames and the second - only "body"

P.S.
I use uBlock Origin so if the problem is in the ads - I just don't see any ads:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm
493) Questions and Answers : Windows : Time remaining too large for new work unit deadline (Message 1746424)
Posted 3 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Computer 5844020

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5844020


Deadline dates are off by days, not just hours.

Do you have (see in BOINC Manager) only these 2 tasks now:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5844020&offset=0&show_names=1&state=0&appid=

The 30oc11ab.8281.20108.3.12.134_1 that say 12 Dec 2015, 1:26:43 UTC
will be on 11 Dec 2015 in USA which is -5 to -9 from UTC
https://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/
https://www.timeanddate.com/time/aboututc.html


They will be until you have run sufficient tasks for the time estimator to get a good estimate

He have "SETI@home v7 7.00 windows_intelx86":
Number of tasks completed 805
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=5844020
 
494) Questions and Answers : Web site : seti@home error messages (Message 1746411)
Posted 3 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I can't see how re-installation of BOINC will fix OpenCL
Unless you also changed the driver for your ATI Radeon HD 5670

All computed tasks so far are from CPU:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7832837&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7832837&offset=0&show_names=0&state=2&appid=


All "opencl_ati_mac" tasks are shown still "In progress" on the web:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7832837&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1&appid=

Until some of them finish OK it is uncertain if the OpenCL driver is fixed.
Because the problem was the computing on ATI Radeon HD 5670 - not on CPU
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4536956575

If the problem with OpenCL ("CL build failure") persists - you may try to delete the generated *.bin* files from SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)

Which driver version do you use for ATI Radeon HD 5670
Where the driver comes from? (ATI AMD, Apple, video card vendor?)


You may try to find some utility to test OpenCL on Mac:
https://www.google.com/#q=opencl+test+mac

LuxMark is good/safe but I used it only on Windows (I don't have Mac)
http://www.luxrender.net/wiki/LuxMark

There is version for "MacOS 64bit"
http://www.luxrender.net/wiki/LuxMark#LuxMark_v3.0

I used older LuxMark v2 (on Windows 32bit)
http://www.luxrender.net/wiki/LuxMark_v2
http://www.luxrender.net/wiki/LuxMark_v2#Download
495) Questions and Answers : Windows : Time remaining too large for new work unit deadline (Message 1746208)
Posted 2 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The Acer

??? What is this? Computer name? Only ID is visible to others, see my computers:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=8647488


Deadline dates in Boinc manager do not match dates on the SETI web page.

Local (in BOINC Manager) vs UTC time (on web page)
496) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1746203)
Posted 2 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I wish there was a single switch that told Microsoft "No I don't want this installed." and be done with it.

There are 2 programs to fight that:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77121&postid=1742579#1742579

"GWX Control Panel" have 'Monitor Mode' (new in version 1.6)
497) Questions and Answers : Windows : Time remaining too large for new work unit deadline (Message 1745961)
Posted 1 Dec 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This is wrong estimate.
If previous tasks run for too long (e.g. because CPU is too busy for a long time to do video encoding, gaming) this will make BOINC think the computer is too slow.
It may also be some hang process that uses the CPU

Today I needed to reboot a computer (was running 50 days) because NVIDIA CUDA was in 'bad' condition - task restarting every few seconds (monitored from other computer)
If you didn't reboot this computer for a long time I suggest you do it (restart Windows)


You may check "Duration correction factor" (which is usually ~1.0)
Projects tab -> select SETI@home -> Properties (bottom of window)
http://isaac.ssl.berkeley.edu/w/?title=Advanced_view&oldid=6098#The_Projects_tab

I'm not sure "Duration correction factor" exists in newer BOINC versions

Which computer ID is this?
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=62424

You probably see this estimated time to drop fast while the task is running...
 
498) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (101) Server Problems? (Message 1745852)
Posted 30 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I changed it to radiobuttons (which I think are totally still there, with more of them.)

Yes, the selection is by radio-buttons
The CPU caps are auto-detected and what is not supported is grey-out
The best is pre-selected

The following pic I get just now from Lunatics_Win32_v0.43b_setup.exe
- this is the pre-selection (on my CPU - AMD Athlon II X3 455), I didn't change anything:



 
499) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Cant run more than one WU per GPU (Message 1745840)
Posted 30 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The file app_config.xml will be ignored if:
- not put in the right place, as noted it should be in projects' directory (and not in BOINC Data directory). put app_config.xml in:
SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)

- the text format is wrong (Unicode, UTF-8), the text format should be ANSI
- the filename is wrong (app_config.xml.txt), should be app_config.xml

- the non-existent apps will be ignored:
<name>astropulse_v6</name>

I don't think you need max_concurent as it will affect the total number of tasks, including CPU tasks
You don't need to free CPU core for the SETI@home CUDA app

<app_config>

   <app>
      <name>setiathome_v7</name>
      <gpu_versions>
         <gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
         <cpu_usage>0.04</cpu_usage>
      </gpu_versions>
   </app>

   <app>
      <name>astropulse_v7</name>
      <gpu_versions>
         <gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
         <cpu_usage>1</cpu_usage>
      </gpu_versions>
   </app>

</app_config>



This will/should run 2 tasks/GPU (total 4 - you have 2x GeForce GTX 980 Ti)
Every running AstroPulse OpenCL GPU task will free 1 CPU core (one less CPU task will be run by BOINC)
So don't also reduce the general BOINC Setting:
Use at most 100% of the CPUs

And for the AstroPulse OpenCL app you may need also set/put in the file with similar name (I just don't know the exact name on your system, the file should already exist and be empty (have zero length)):
ap_cmdline_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_NV.txt

... the following switch/line:
-instances_per_device 2

 
500) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (101) Server Problems? (Message 1745630)
Posted 29 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Sorry guys looks like I figured it out error gone ....Stupid readme files confuse more than help :-)

It would be nice if you would choose a different wording.

Just shuffle the words a bit ;)
readme files confuse Stupid more than help :-)
501) Message boards : Number crunching : Does 3D screen saver affect CUDA activity? (Message 1745561)
Posted 29 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... and total disabling of the screensaver was always standard practice.

He is talking about the "3D screen saver" of the stock CPU app - and wants somehow the CUDA app to stop the screensaver of the CPU app :D
502) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics installer woes (Message 1745556)
Posted 29 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Lunatics installer ... REMOVES/REPLACES (probably with your last one before using Lunatics) YOUR CUSTOM APPINFO ALSO ON UNINSTALLING.

It is somewhat logic, in the sense that it intends to unobtrusively put things back to the situation before you used Lunatics the first time. Which is polite and correct.

But in yesterday's situation, this was way out of my thoughts.

OK. It may be in the notes...

I don't think the UNINSTALL effects are documented anywhere "in the notes"

I never did un-installation of Lunatics but I think the effect is:
Return to the previous state, as it was before the last install (not "before you used Lunatics the first time")
(all the apps and other files which were moved to "oldApp_backup" are moved back to "setiathome.berkeley.edu")
503) Message boards : Number crunching : *Very* long running Seti tasks (Message 1745548)
Posted 29 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Did you see any GPU load when the task was 'hang'?
Next time you may try 'Snooze GPU' for a few seconds to see if that will make the task 'go'
504) Questions and Answers : Windows : Screensaver shows Tasks but no Graph (Message 1745544)
Posted 29 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I get a few failed downloads from time to time but the only way I know how to fix this is to make exceptions for those particular WUs.

The problem with failed downloads is probably not your firewall but your ISP
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4557938234

<file_xfer_error>
<file_name>seti_700.jpg</file_name>
<error_code>-200 (wrong size)</error_code>
</file_xfer_error>

- ask them (your ISP) if they can stop re-compressing .jpg files
- or (as a test) use VPN (in which case your ISP can't see or alter what is transmitted)
https://www.securitykiss.com/

- or just set in your Computing preferences
Skip data verification for image files [v]


... which says I have OpenCL and OpenGL

You may test both by GPU Caps Viewer
http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/
505) Questions and Answers : Web site : Finding classic SETI@Home account (Message 1745537)
Posted 29 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The page to use is this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic.php
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php
506) Message boards : Number crunching : CPU Overclocking - is it possible? (Message 1744905)
Posted 26 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Anything else I've tried is happy up to 4.5ghz
About stressing, I think the software I use for testing actually is heavier on the CPU than Boinc.
I've used Prime95, AIDA64, RealBench and Handbrake. All of which ran for a minimum of 6 hours to 8-9 hours maximum with zero errors.

Try LinX - The simpliest Linpack interface
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?201670-LinX-A-simple-Linpack-interface
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?201670-LinX-A-simple-Linpack-interface&p=5265588&viewfull=1#post5265588

Be careful as it heats the CPU fast! (i.e. try first on stock GHz, no Overclock)
Free as much memory as possible (exit all programs) before the test and set it to use more RAM
507) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Set GPU utilization factor from SETI@Home preferences (Message 1744889)
Posted 25 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I set 50% of the [four] CPUs

That is easiest Setting to BOINC - it just starts 2 tasks (processes)


and 50% of the CPU time

BOINC do this reduction by pausing the applications' processes execution: 1 s ON, 1 s OFF
This is easy enough to do for CPU processes but not for code running on the GPU (GPU is like a-computer-in-the-computer)
This - to pause/resume the CPU part of the GPU apps - was enabled on some older BOINC versions (1-2 years ago) but had bad results and code was removed/disabled.

P.S.
There is a program - TThrottle - which can reduce the GPU load but it is only for Windows
TThrottle acts by temperature - e.g. you set max GPU temperature to be 50°C and if this is reached TThrottle will make/force small pauses (a few ms) in the GPU app to reduce the GPU load so temperature stays at 50°C
508) Message boards : Number crunching : CPUz ? (Message 1744867)
Posted 25 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If I fried my cpu or vid ...

To avoid this - control the temperature of both CPU and GPU by TThrottle <--Click

(and again: you don't need to buy/pay anything - all programs I/we list here are free.
If you found a site which wants payment (e.g. for "fast Download") - ask here (with link) as it's probably fraud.
Many people here know about many free utilities and will give you clean links to get them.
)
509) Questions and Answers : Windows : How to change speed of SETI using GPU (Message 1744865)
Posted 25 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
My GPU is running a bit hot ...

Use TThrottle
510) Questions and Answers : Windows : "Show graphics" for setti@home greyed out (Message 1744861)
Posted 25 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have a nVidia GT630 with 4-Gig (I still don't know what the RAM type, or it's speed is, as none of the utilities I have found will give this added information, and nVidia hasn't made it to show in their Control GUI)

Which utilities?

GPU-Z
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

GPU Caps Viewer
http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/

SIV - System Information Viewer
http://rh-software.com/

MSI Afterburner
http://gaming.msi.com/features/afterburner

NVIDIA Inspector
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/nvidia-inspector-download.html
http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/nvidia_inspector.html

All of them should show at least the speed.
511) Message boards : Number crunching : CPUz ? (Message 1744649)
Posted 25 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I was thinking about it buy ...

?? What buy? It's free (CPU-Z)
Or you found somebody which try to sell CPU-Z ??!


The other is lunatics. Did a search but the results left me hesitating. Don't want to have to reinstall os

I don't know of a single case when Lunatics Installer do something to the OS
Because it only puts some files in SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)

Lunatics Installer v0.43b
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71867&postid=1704234#1704234


P.S.
You don't give any links.
That way no one knows where you go, what you see and what you try to get.
Hard to help ...
512) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Set GPU utilization factor from SETI@Home preferences (Message 1744639)
Posted 25 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If you talk about something like "GPU utilization factor" present on Einstein@Home preferences:
https://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

... you probably don't understand what it means.
There is no way to use "GPU utilization factor" to lower GPU load (to avoid "iMac fan run full blast")

If you set "GPU utilization factor" to 0.5 this means 2 tasks/GPU = higher GPU load
(0.5 = one task needs half GPU so BOINC will run 2 tasks per GPU)

If you set "GPU utilization factor" to 2 (not really possible) - no task will run
(2 = one task needs two GPUs)


I tried setting "Suspend GPU" but SETI sends me only GPU jobs and I had to abort them.

It's easy to tell any project to not send you GPU tasks:
SETI@home preferences
513) Message boards : Number crunching : CPUz ? (Message 1744437)
Posted 24 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This is the official site (good):
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

BAD is anything from download.cnet.com | cpu-z.en.softonic.com | (maybe) softpedia.com

Usually the first result in Google is the official site, for second "opinion" about the official link (of any program) check Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPU-Z

Also scan anything suspicious on https://www.virustotal.com/en/
514) Questions and Answers : Windows : Waiting Validation tasks - 1 month old (Message 1744371)
Posted 23 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
In extreme cases of "unlucky" WUs this may go for a year - if many computers do not return result or return bad result.
This one is from 27 Jul 2015
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1854575509

And you can see that computer 7268969 which have to return result till 8 Dec 2015 will probably not do it - Last contact 3 Oct 2015
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7268969

And it already have many "Timed out - no response"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7268969&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=

 
515) Message boards : Number crunching : workuntits with short deadline (Message 1744363)
Posted 23 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The question is, how can i prevent to get such a mistake at the future??

Usually this is caused by bad Internet - the response from the server do not reach your computer.
But this "bad Internet" may be somewhere on the path, not near you.
In fact nothing really bad happened - you never received those tasks, they will be sent to other computer.

If you are curious - you may check/search in Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E)
or in the files stdoutdae.txt and stdoutdae.old (in BOINC Data directory) the string:
Scheduler request failed

E.g. you may find such lines:
02-Nov-2015 02:58:41 [WUProp@Home] Scheduler request failed: HTTP internal server error
15-Nov-2015 13:51:34 [SETI@home] Scheduler request failed: Server returned nothing (no headers, no data)
18-Nov-2015 13:08:56 [SETI@home] Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server

But really important in this case is Timeout was reached - you see the dates are old (I have logs from 13-Nov-2009 till now) and from different projects:
12-Oct-2010 14:51:30 [SETI@home] Scheduler request failed: Timeout was reached
27-Aug-2013 02:38:13 [WUProp@Home] Scheduler request failed: Timeout was reached
06-Oct-2014 15:29:44 [Asteroids@home] Scheduler request failed: Timeout was reached
17-Feb-2015 03:22:01 [WUProp@Home] Scheduler request failed: Timeout was reached
516) Message boards : Number crunching : workuntits with short deadline (Message 1744306)
Posted 23 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7148977&offset=0&show_names=1&state=6&appid=

Since those are all VLAR WUs I would guess:
- "they" (people at the lab) turned ON "Resent lost tasks" https://www.google.com/#q=resent+lost+task
- those 5 of your tasks were "sent" initially to CPU but never received (become "ghosts")
- next request from your BOINC was for GPU tasks, server see 5 "lost tasks" but they are VLAR and can't be sent to GPU so the server makes them expire ("Timed out")
517) Message boards : Number crunching : The little GPU that could! (Message 1744302)
Posted 23 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This list is not very reliable.
E.g. it do not account properly for people running more than one task/GPU
Running 3 tasks/GPU may give more production but every task takes more time and the server thinks (wrong) that the GPU is slow.

If you decide to change the GPU most people here will suggest GeForce GTX 750 Ti
It have the best ratio Performance/W (uses only ~60 W)
518) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC/Seti stops crunching WU's when my internet connection goes down? Help! (Message 1744296)
Posted 23 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Last time it happened I rested the mouse cursor over the Boinc Taskbar icon and it said 'Computing suspended due to high CPU usage' but nothing is using the CPU.

Then BOINC may be confused about this "non-BOINC CPU usage"

Check: Computing preferences
Set (use "Edit preferences" at the bottom):
Suspend when non-BOINC CPU usage is above 0%

After you click [Update preferences] button the page should show:
Suspend when non-BOINC CPU usage is above --- %


If you use Local preferences make the change there:
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/w/?title=Local_preferences&oldid=6117#Computing

519) Questions and Answers : Windows : Waiting Validation tasks - 1 month old (Message 1744294)
Posted 23 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Can't you see by yourself "what gives":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1945546416

The other person have to return their result and the deadline is 22 Dec 2015

One month is not too much.
I have from 15 Oct 2015
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1931454647

The top computer have from 10 Aug 2015
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7611566
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7611566&offset=3120&show_names=0&state=2&appid=
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1864890920
520) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC 7.6.9 - Scheduler behaves strange. (Message 1744246)
Posted 23 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:


As you see, it eats 2 cores nearly completely just for the spin loop. The little green parts above the red are the actual feeding of the GPUs, the rest is wasted.

Again just out of curiosity - you may try to find what kind of instructions are executed during that spin loop:
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/perfmonitor-2.html

If this (Perfmonitor 2) do not support your CPU - get the original v1.008 "PerfMonitor" (which I can't find any more on CPUID site, old bookmark was http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/perfmonitor.html)
http://chomikuj.pl/bugajl/Programy/perfmonitor_1.008,2038590911.zip(archive)

I checked that this perfmonitor_1.008.zip (from chomikuj.pl) contains the exact same file perfmonitor.exe which I have/get from CPUID a few years ago:
906eb2c5b0eee128a609c1bae001562f *perfmonitor.exe
521) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC/Seti stops crunching WU's when my internet connection goes down? Help! (Message 1744231)
Posted 23 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Check the Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E)

It should say the reason of "pause", e.g.:
23/11/2015 11:15:48 Suspending computation - time of day


Boinc continues to work on the WU's but eventually stops

Your own words show that BOINC "continues to work" with no internet connection.
AFAIK BOINC have no logic or Setting to stop Computing when internet connection is lost.
But there are several other Settings that may tell BOINC to stop Computing.

To check for some "hang bug" in BOINC when it tries to use a non-existent internet connection you may try:
- when the internet connection is lost - tell BOINC to not try to connect by:
Activity Menu -> Network activity suspended
BOINC Manager Menu
522) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC 7.6.9 - Scheduler behaves strange. (Message 1743898)
Posted 21 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Yes i did and i answered with an edit, why -use_sleep is no option for me. ;)

OK, I'm blind ;)

Maybe because I'm in a hurry to go to the other room and watch:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junior_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2015

Krisia will not participate but will sing 2 songs :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krisia_Todorova

My Playlist "Krisiya (Krisia Todorova)" - YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUoBueatVVKFEL7pIYtXiecb-g8N9ecGA
523) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC 7.6.9 - Scheduler behaves strange. (Message 1743894)
Posted 21 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Did you see my EDIT:
Also did you try what is the effect of -use_sleep
524) Message boards : Number crunching : Retro PC seti crunching (Message 1743893)
Posted 21 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The CPU needs at least SSE to work.

Not really

I used (and may again use) K6-2+ on Windows 98 / Windows 2000
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=3412467
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=3412467

"Number of tasks completed 57"
It have "Consecutive valid tasks 0" just because the last task was "Time out"

Using:
app_info.xml
stock setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe (MD5: 61ed886de72526d5c9adda9fc120df0f)
PSAPI.DLL (MD5: 7f7005d2f1d9c579179807818c3ac4c7) from Windows 2000 (needed when I run on Windows 98) put next to setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe
Old libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll renamed to libfftw3f-3-3_upx.dll (MD5: faef6807b4fe889a33647a661c52d99e)

(The problem with the new "real" libfftw3f-3-3 is that it needs CMOV instruction) - Not SSE


app_info.xml
<app_info>

    <app>
        <name>setiathome_v7</name>
    </app>

    <file_info>
        <name>setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>setigraphics_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>libfftw3f-3-3_upx.dll</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>Psapi.dll</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>wisdom.sah</name>
    </file_info>

    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_v7</app_name>
        <version_num>700</version_num>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>setigraphics_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>libfftw3f-3-3_upx.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>Psapi.dll</file_name>
            <copy_file/>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>wisdom.sah</file_name>
            <copy_file/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>

</app_info>
525) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC 7.6.9 - Scheduler behaves strange. (Message 1743880)
Posted 21 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
what is that 127C that is showing on the SIV near the MB's 33C?

This is (obviously) "empty" sensor - no real temperature sensor is attached to the pins of the W83627DHG chip
526) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC 7.6.9 - Scheduler behaves strange. (Message 1743876)
Posted 21 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Just out of curiosity I would like to see the CPU graph when only 2 GPU tasks are running (i.e. if you suspend all CPU tasks)

EDIT:
Also did you try what is the effect of -use_sleep
 
527) Questions and Answers : Windows : How to set use 11 cores out of 12 (Message 1743850)
Posted 21 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Hoping "web preferences" will work on my 8 core ...

If all your computers use the same "web preferences" (there are 4 sets of "web Computing preferences")
Setting to 99% (as already noted by Ageless):
Use at most 99% of the CPUs

... will free 1 core - no matter if the CPU is 8 core, 12 core, 2 core, 64 core ...

Of course if you set any value in Local preferences (e.g. "Disk and memory") the "web preferences" will not matter
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/w/?title=Local_preferences&oldid=6117
528) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : New PC not getting GPU APs (Message 1743082)
Posted 18 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... or seti cannot recognise that it is.

This should be "BOINC cannot recognise"


ran GPU-Z just in case it found what seti couldn't, but it also couldn't find OpenCL

Try also:
GPU Caps Viewer
http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/

If it also don't find OpenCL and/or can't run "OpenCL demos" something is wrong with your OpenCL installation.
529) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1742579)
Posted 16 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Already downloaded the 10mb "upgrade" without my approval.

10mb -> 10 GB

Do you use these 2 programs?

"GWX Control Panel"
http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/2015/08/using-gwx-stopper-to-permanently-remove.html

"Windows 10 When I Want It"
http://win10wiwi.com/
530) Message boards : Number crunching : plan_class for AMD R9 Fury Nano? (Message 1741694)
Posted 13 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You may see if the file used at SETI@home beta will give you some clues:
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/plan_class_spec.xml
531) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC 7.6.9 - Scheduler behaves strange. (Message 1741690)
Posted 13 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So you use:
<app_config>
   <app>
      <name>astropulse_v7</name>
      <gpu_versions>
         <gpu_usage>1.0</gpu_usage>
         <cpu_usage>0.5</cpu_usage>
      </gpu_versions>
   </app>
</app_config>


And you see 2 AstroPulse GPU tasks running - one per GPU (GeForce GT 640 + GeForce GT 430)?
And you also see 2 CPU tasks running (= total 4 tasks running)?


As a test for some rounding bug in BOINC you may try <cpu_usage>0.51</cpu_usage> or even <cpu_usage>0.99</cpu_usage>
(both 0.5 and 0.99 should free 1 core if 2 GPU tasks running)

Also you may set some log_flags to see what BOINC it "thinking", maybe:
<coproc_debug>
<cpu_sched>
<cpu_sched_debug>
cc_config.xml
532) Message boards : Technical News : Splits (Nov 10 2015) (Message 1741630)
Posted 12 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
We fixed that, but not after a ton of bad workunits made its way into the world.

Maybe this should read:
... but only after ...
... but not before ...
533) Questions and Answers : Web site : seti@home error messages (Message 1741478)
Posted 12 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... so he can build an RAC for posting in Number Crunching.

Oh, I didn't notice (till now) that he don't have enough RAC even on his "real" account
Only a few "good" CPU tasks are needed (maybe even only one)
534) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Is it possible to set a custom background? (Message 1741472)
Posted 12 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
As a test you can try if this URL will work:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/user_images/SETI_TREK.jpg

Found from this page:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ss_graphics.php

HOME -> Pictures & music -> Screensaver graphics to use as a background in the SETI@home screensaver.
535) Questions and Answers : Web site : seti@home error messages (Message 1741469)
Posted 12 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
There are some "famous" (knowledgeable) users with Mac computers but they post only in Number Crunching

Use your "real" account to post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=9548263

... because:
- no one can post in Number Crunching with RAC: 0
- people will need to see your Hardware (ATI Radeon HD 5670 (512MB)) / Software (OS: Darwin 10.8.0 ; OpenCL: 1.0)

App show very strange to me "Driver version: 1.0" - which is probably too old (but I don't use Mac so don't know for sure)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4513387328
536) Questions and Answers : Web site : seti@home error messages (Message 1740430)
Posted 7 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
SETI@home Enhanced 6.03 i686-apple-darwin
Anzahl der abgeschloßenen Aufgaben 79
Max. Aufgaben pro Tag 179
Anzahl der Aufgaben heute 0
Aufeinander-folgende, gültige Aufgaben 79
mittlere Berechnungsgeschwindigkeit 13.01 GFLOPS
mittlere Taskdauer 0.60 days
...

Is this a Copy/Paste of this page? (which I see in English):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=6134017

SETI@home Enhanced 6.03 i686-apple-darwin
Number of tasks completed 79
Max tasks per day 179
Number of tasks today 0
Consecutive valid tasks 79
Average processing rate 13.01 GFLOPS
Average turnaround time 0.60 days
...
537) Questions and Answers : Web site : seti@home error messages (Message 1740429)
Posted 7 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
do you know, how to combine old and new accounts?
wow!
please, explain it to dummies!

No way, BOINC accounts can not be merged.
Choose one and attach (Add) all your computers to it.
538) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows 10 upgrade issue? (Message 1740422)
Posted 7 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
this worked

So you changed "Graphics preferences" to "Minimalist"? (And then to ...?)
And you now see "Power/Time/Frequency" part of the graph?


For reference you use:
Intel(R) HD Graphics (1374MB) OpenCL: 1.2
Driver version: 10.18.10.4276 (as detected by the app "OpenCL version by Raistmer, r2929")
Windows 10 Core x64 Edition, (10.00.10240.00)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7816852
539) Questions and Answers : Web site : seti@home error messages (Message 1739666)
Posted 4 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
No idea!

Seti worked for xears, even on a 68K Mac. I do not boinc for credits, but for the science ;-))

No Credit means:
- Never a SETI@home task was successfully done (validated) on this account

Most probably - you never had computer attached (Added) to this account
= You have another account (if you are sure you used BOINC + SETI@home in the past and was successfully computing tasks which validated OK)
540) Questions and Answers : Web site : seti@home error messages (Message 1739661)
Posted 4 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
with your computers hidden we can't see what computers you have.

SETI@home preferences

Parameter:
"Should SETI@home show your computers on its web site?"
541) Questions and Answers : Web site : seti@home error messages (Message 1739658)
Posted 4 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Where can I find the log you mentioned?

Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E)

http://isaac.ssl.berkeley.edu/w/?title=Advanced_view&oldid=6098#The_Event_Log_window
542) Questions and Answers : Web site : seti@home error messages (Message 1739278)
Posted 3 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Everything worked fine for years...

??? And how then you have Credit: 0
543) Message boards : Number crunching : How Do You Assign A Cruncher A New Computer ID? (Message 1739022)
Posted 2 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You can try changing rpc_seqno backwards:
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/forum_thread.php?id=475&postid=4656#4656
544) Questions and Answers : Preferences : How do I request work for my GPU only? (Message 1739013)
Posted 2 Nov 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I think I will try removing the tickmark for 'use CPU' fo a while, and carefully watch my cache to see when the excess number of cpu tasks are consumed. :)

'use CPU' have no effect on how much tasks you get for GPU
i.e. if you have less tasks for CPU this doesn't mean BOINC will get more for GPU

What are your 2 Settings for "days of work" and where you set them?
Probably you want/need to set something like 0.1 + 5 days of work

When both CPU and GPU are at 100 "In progress" tasks - that is the max you can get from SETI@home
545) Message boards : Number crunching : Fastest MB/AP cmdline settings for a NV GTX980Ti? (Message 1735651)
Posted 20 Oct 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
for both (app_info.xml file entry): I would use 0.33 instead of 0.34. Here is why. If you use 0.34

<avg_ncpus>0.34</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.34</max_ncpus>

Then with just 1 GPU that would be 1.2 Cores. (at this point someone is going to say the computer is going to round up to 2 full cores). So then let us use 0.33 instead. When you do that it's 0.99 rounded to 1

No
0.99 is rounded to 0
1.20 is rounded to 1
1.99 is rounded to 1

And why 1.2 ?!
0.34 * 3 = 1.02 which is rounded to 1
0.34 * 4 = 1.36 which is rounded to 1

(Unless this kind of rounding/truncating was changed in latest BOINC versions)
546) Questions and Answers : Preferences : New BOINC for Mac (7.6.11) will not show graphics (Message 1735375)
Posted 19 Oct 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Doesn't OS X have special icon or term (like Application/Program/Executable) to show which file is executable?


Not that I can tell. But again, I've never really looked at these until now.


Seems the column have name of "Kind" - but this is in TotalFinder:
http://fusiongrokker.com/post/totalfinder-a-better-finder-for-your-mac




Maybe you will find something interesting here:
10 Tips for a Better Finder Experience
http://computers.tutsplus.com/tutorials/10-tips-for-a-better-finder-experience--mac-3638
547) Questions and Answers : Preferences : New BOINC for Mac (7.6.11) will not show graphics (Message 1735370)
Posted 19 Oct 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I tried the second set of links and got this error:

nginx error!
The page you are looking for is not found.

Yes, the first set of links gives you files to Download and the second set of links gives you this error


I might be interested in it just to see how it works.

OK, just for fun ...
(involves only simple things like Copy, Rename files and Start / End some programs)

1) First you have to be sure you know how to terminate (kill) processes (will be needed later - in # 4) E)):
http://osxdaily.com/2010/08/15/mac-task-manager/

Start Activity Monitor and see the BOINC and SETI@home processes running:
boinc
boincmgr (I'm not sure of the exact name)
setiathome_7.07_x86_64-apple-darwin__avx
setiathome_7.00_i686-apple-darwin
...

2) Now Exit BOINC (as you normally/usually do this - e.g. from BOINC menu) and see how those processes vanish from the Activity Monitor list
(be sure there are no BOINC and SETI@home processes running before next steps)

3) Go to SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)
- Make a Copy of SETI@home directory (in any convenient place)
- Rename the Copy to e.g. TEST_setiathome.berkeley.edu
(Rename is just to easy know you are in the Copy)


4) Now we begin the interesting part
* From now on we will work only in the Copy - TEST_setiathome.berkeley.edu

   A) - Find any SETI@home WU - they have size ~ 370 KB and names like:
27ap11ab.18861.7838.438086664204.12.4
27se11ac.15569.45968.438086664198.12.32.vlar
06mr11aa.28126.6615.438086664204.12.101
14oc11ac.22341.15609.438086664199.12.58.vlar

Note: they are plain text files - can be opened by any text editor and the first line is:
<workunit>

(Do Not use files with similar names but the size is 20-30 KB and the first line <result>)

   B) - Now Rename one of the SETI@home WUs to:
work_unit.sah

   C) - Start (Run) setiathome_7.00_i686-apple-darwin
In Activity Monitor you will see it running and using ~25% CPU (25% = one core of your 4 core CPU)

   D) - Start (Run) setigraphics_7.00_i686-apple-darwin
Now you should see the graphics in full screen
(Hit any key to end it, start setigraphics_* again to see it)

   E) - Now (after you no more want to look at graphics) you will want to Kill/End setiathome_7.00_i686-apple-darwin by Activity Monitor
It will end by itself but after a few hours (after the WU is computed)
To save CPU cycles kill it now.

If you want - Rename another SETI@home WUs to work_unit.sah and see its graphics


END - before starting BOINC be sure no setiathome_7.00_i686-apple-darwin process is running
548) Questions and Answers : Preferences : New BOINC for Mac (7.6.11) will not show graphics (Message 1734850)
Posted 17 Oct 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm looking, but for some reason these are the closest I can find to what you are looking for:

Doesn't OS X have special icon or term (like Application/Program/Executable) to show which file is executable?

Note: All the Download links can be made by appending the executable file name to:
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/

Results:

All the Computing parts are at the usual place (now I know that the names end with e.g. "__avx" and not "_avx"):
(you may click the links and get the files just as experiment - e g to scan them on https://www.virustotal.com/en/)

http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/astropulse_7.07_x86_64-apple-darwin__opencl_intel_gpu_mac
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setiathome_7.07_x86_64-apple-darwin__avx
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setiathome_7.07_x86_64-apple-darwin__sse41
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setiathome_7.07_x86_64-apple-darwin__ssse3


But there are no Graphics parts for these 4 apps (Click):

http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/ap_graphics_7.07_x86_64-apple-darwin__opencl_intel_gpu_mac
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setigraphics_7.07_x86_64-apple-darwin__avx
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setigraphics_7.07_x86_64-apple-darwin__sse41
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setigraphics_7.07_x86_64-apple-darwin__ssse3


I now know that the reason I'm not getting many tasks that come with the seti screensaver is simply because those tasks don't have one

No task have graphics in it

E.g. for this WU (06mr11aa.28126.6615.438086664204.12.101) you will see graphics (SETI@home v7 v7.00):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1915007276

... because your computer will use setiathome_7.00_i686-apple-darwin to compute this task (06mr11aa.28126.6615.438086664204.12.101_0)
and setiathome_7.00_i686-apple-darwin can share some of what it computes
with the graphics "pair" setigraphics_7.00_i686-apple-darwin which will show graphics.
(setigraphics_7.00_i686-apple-darwin is started only by screensaver or by [Show graphics] button.)

But the other person who use SETI@home v7 v7.00 (cuda42) application
to compute absolutely the same WU (he receives absolutely the same file 06mr11aa.28126.6615.438086664204.12.101)
will not see any graphics because no CUDA application used for SETI@home have graphics pair/part

So Graphics do not depend on task/WU - it depends on which app is used to compute the task


P.S.
In fact there is a way you can see graphics for any task you have by running some "test" outside of BOINC
This will not serve any meaningful purpose (results can't be sent back to SETI@home = CPU cycles will be lost)
But you will see graphics during Computing

Are you interested to know how?
(At least I know how to do that on Windows, maybe it will work also on OS X)
549) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1734839)
Posted 17 Oct 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Tool you may want (or not)

Windows 10 When I Want It (Win10wiwi)
http://win10wiwi.com/






Note for: Just enter your e-mail address and click "download":
I used this (instead of giving real e-mail)
https://10minutemail.com/10MinuteMail/index.html

Scan - Detection ratio: 0 / 56
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/dd78e77bcbf689bb12149017e86ce61f569c0647ff5d0ffc360a109b555d17af/analysis/

Found on this comments:
http://www.askwoody.com/2015/microsoft-clobbers-block-win10-upgrade-settings/#comment-63650

Company:
http://www.sysstreaming.com
https://sites.google.com/site/sysstreaming/our-company


It seems to be good but I don't have a Windows 7 or 8 system to test it, use at your desire/risk
550) Message boards : Number crunching : benchmark stock vs. optimized -- problem (Message 1734567)
Posted 16 Oct 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Do you have CUDA libraries in SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\) (where you also have the x41g executable)?
Do you have all those same CUDA libraries in /BENCH/... (next to x41g executable)?
551) Message boards : Number crunching : SMART and Individual Hard Drives (Message 1734564)
Posted 16 Oct 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
smartmontools seems to have a command to enable or disable SMART. It also has some support for some RAID controllers and USB bridges.

That looks like what I am looking for...thank you!!!!!

SIV (System Information Viewer)
http://rh-software.com/

Have [+SMART] [-SMART] buttons:




There are some mentions of "RAID" in SIV History:
http://rh-software.com/index_arc.html
552) Message boards : Number crunching : 4x AMD Radeon R9 Fury X (Message 1734556)
Posted 16 Oct 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... my system has gone full tilt.

And what to look for on that picture to see "full tilt"?
553) Message boards : Number crunching : temperature Measurement Variance: Who Do I Believe? (Message 1734552)
Posted 16 Oct 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Are the DTS a software-only sensors sharing input from a SINGLE PHYSICAL sensor WITHOUT MULTIPLE DEDICATED PHYSICAL sensors to feed them exclusively, you think?

No, for Intel CPUs there are individual sensors in each core
(There seem to exist even more sensors not accessible by Software)


From the PDF (cpu-monitoring-dts-peci-paper.pdf - September 2010):

"Thermal Mechanisms Overview
Both processor families support TM1 (Thermal Monitor 1), TM2 (Thermal Monitor 2), per-core DTS ..."

"DTS in Intel® Xeon® 5500
There are multiple DTS sensors per processor die. Software only has access to the core temperature registers"

"PECI Overview
Temperature sensors located throughout the die are implemented as analog-to-digital converters calibrated at the factory"

"Multi-core Implications
... When either core‟s thermal sensor trips, ...
The IA32_THERM_STATUS MSR is associated with a processor core and is not shared between the two cores on the package (it is shared between logical processors on a HT technology processor)."


Accuracy:

"DTS Accuracy and Range
The DTS accuracy and range varies from generation to generation. It is important to understand the limits of each generation when using the DTS or PECI. The important thing to note is that PECI is accurate enough for fan speed control and Thermal Control Circuit (TCC) activation warning.
The characteristics of the Digital Thermal Sensor (DTS) vary from die to die and each processor DTS is factory calibrated. As a result, given the same TCONTROL setting, not all processors will be at the same silicon temperature when at TCONTROL.
The DTS value is referred to as a DTS Count since one count does not necessarily equal one degree."

"Real Temp* and Core Temp*
There are several issues with these tools. First the assumed value for Tj maynot be correct and thus impact the accuracy of actual temperature reporting.
Secondly the DTS is only accurate when in the adjacency of Tj. Not knowing the intention and effective range of DTS, the tools try to compensate with the inaccuracy of low temperature reading, which may not be a correct interpretation."

* My note: what Intel calls "Tj" is the same as "Tjunction" for CoreTemp and "TJMax" for RealTemp

"How to Convert PECI/DTS Values to An Absolute Temperature
PECI is most accurate near the maximum temperature (PROCHOT#) and it is accurate enough for fan speed control in the TCONTROL range but it can be very inaccurate at low temperatures."


"The Differences Between Reading the PECI Bus and Reading the DTS Through An MSR
Each DTS needs to be read individually but they can be read without extra PECI hard ware. The DTS gives an instantaneous value at a resolution of 1 degree and may be subjective to noise.
PECI reports the average temperature of the hottest core but usually needs extra logic such as a BMC chip. PECI reads at a higher resolution and also uses an averaging function to remove the affect of noise."
554) Questions and Answers : Preferences : New BOINC for Mac (7.6.11) will not show graphics (Message 1734292)
Posted 15 Oct 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
As near as I can tell, all of the current graphics TASKS (?) do not come with screensaver graphics.

Graphics (SETI@home graphics, any projects' graphics) is not part of a task/WU - it is part of the applications
All tasks are "the same". Any task can be computed by different applications - on CPU (plain, SSEx, AVX) or on GPU (CUDA, OpenCL), on Windows, Linux, Mac, Android
The same task (the same file) you do by app which shows SETI@home graphics will be done on other computer by app which have no graphics (or vice versa)


For the names of all the tasks being run ...
...
Not sure if that is what you are looking for, but you can also check my computer profile to see my tasks to find the tasks I referred to.

No - the task/WU names are visible on web:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7463327&offset=0&show_names=1&state=0&appid=

I wanted to know:
"Copy/Paste here the names of all the executables you have in SETI@home directory" - like:
setiathome_7.00_i686-apple-darwin
setigraphics_7.00_i686-apple-darwin

I will try to find them on the server and try to see if they have graphics parts


One thing that I have noticed so far is that tasks that run under the application SETI@home v7 7.00 have had the SETI screensaver graphics.

We already know that - by what I posted above:
"This one have both Computing part (setiathome_7.00_i686-apple-darwin) and Graphics part (setigraphics_7.00_i686-apple-darwin) on the SETI@home servers -
as you can check by Download/saving files from these links:
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setiathome_7.00_i686-apple-darwin
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setigraphics_7.00_i686-apple-darwin
"
555) Questions and Answers : Preferences : New BOINC for Mac (7.6.11) will not show graphics (Message 1734132)
Posted 14 Oct 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I had great graphics. I ran a whole bunch of tasks (look at my credits) without having to worry if they had seti-graphics attached

I don't understand why you now "have to worry" if there are seti-graphics or not


I could close BOINC so it wouldn't clog up my dock or top menu and the screensaver still worked fine.

I don't know what is "dock" or "top menu" but why (what do you mean) you can't "close BOINC" now?


The answer is, obviously, I violated the rule “if it aint broke, dont fix it”

It's more and more clear to me that what you observe must be coincidence (and not consequence of BOINC version change)

Looking again on Applications page:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

- see the dates of the optimized apps:
Mac OS X/64-bit Intel	7.07 (avx)	18 Sep 2015, 18:34:25 UTC
Mac OS X/64-bit Intel	7.07 (sse41)	18 Sep 2015, 18:34:25 UTC
Mac OS X/64-bit Intel	7.07 (ssse3)	18 Sep 2015, 18:34:25 UTC


Maybe they didn't existed at all before 18 Sep 2015
And very probably they don't have graphics parts


P.S.
Another user is having similar coincidence - he is thinking (wrongly) that "El Capitan" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS_X_El_Capitan)
made his computer faster for SETI@home tasks (but in fact he just received the new apps):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=78321&postid=1733670#1733670

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=78321&postid=1733925#1733925
"So what you're all saying is that the new faster SSE versions of the OS X client came out about the same time as we upgraded to El Capitan? Is that correct?"
556) Message boards : Number crunching : temperature Measurement Variance: Who Do I Believe? (Message 1734122)
Posted 14 Oct 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
iStat Menus on OS X

It seems you talk about this:
https://bjango.com/mac/istatmenus/

I can't see a technical doc on this page explaining how this app works.
But it should be the same like any other app.
Ask the author of iStat Menus to supply that info.


The author of Real Temp is expert on this matter:
https://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/docs.php

"Each core on these processors has a digital thermal sensor (DTS) that reports temperature data relative to TJMax which is the safe maximum operating core temperature for the CPU

Absolute Core Temperature = TJMax - DTS
"


I found this from Intel (can you find newer doc?):
PDF: CPU Monitoring With DTS
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/white-papers/cpu-monitoring-dts-peci-paper.pdf

"Digital Thermal Sensors (DTS) have been introduced to Intel® architecture
CPU families since Intel® Pentium® M processors. The data reported in DTS
reflects the delta between the current temperature and the maximum
junction temperature of the die (Tj)
."
557) Questions and Answers : Preferences : New BOINC for Mac (7.6.11) will not show graphics (Message 1734104)
Posted 14 Oct 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... but switching to 7.6.10 didn't seem to bring the graphics back.

No BOINC version will help - the graphics part of SETI@home applications is distributed by SETI@home servers, it is not included in BOINC installation.


For the one that I have, the exact file name is as follows:
setigraphics_7.00_i686-apple-darwin

This one have both Computing part (setiathome_7.00_i686-apple-darwin) and Graphics part (setigraphics_7.00_i686-apple-darwin) on the SETI@home servers -
as you can check by Download/saving files from these links:
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setiathome_7.00_i686-apple-darwin
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setigraphics_7.00_i686-apple-darwin

But this 'plain' app is slow so the server will send you tasks for it very rarely.
On your computer it is ~2x slower than avx or sse41:
Average processing rate 10.82 GFLOPS
Average processing rate 20.36 GFLOPS
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=7463327


Executable: setiathome_7.07_x86_64-apple-darwin_avx

You posted that name earlier but I can't Download it from the server (do not exist; or they put 64 bit files not in the same directory/link)

I also tried to 'coin' more names using Applications page:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

- but none works:
Computing part:
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setiathome_7.07_x86_64-apple-darwin_avx
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setiathome_7.07_x86_64-apple-darwin_ssse3
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setiathome_7.07_x86_64-apple-darwin_sse41
Graphics part:
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setigraphics_7.07_x86_64-apple-darwin_avx
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setigraphics_7.07_x86_64-apple-darwin_ssse3
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setigraphics_7.07_x86_64-apple-darwin_sse41


Can you Copy/Paste here the names of all the executables you have in SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)

As already noted by others - I will not be surprised if the optimized apps (avx, sse) do not (and never had) corresponding graphics parts
558) Message boards : Number crunching : temperature Measurement Variance: Who Do I Believe? (Message 1733725)
Posted 12 Oct 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If you really look at the same thing in both programs - namely "CPU individual core temps"
- Intel CPUs don't really report temperature from internal on-die sensors

What Intel CPUs report is the "Distance to TJMax"
So for a program to show temperature - it have to know/determine TJMax
One of your programs thinks that e.g. TJMax is 95°C (and shows lower temperature) and the other thinks TJMax is 100°C (and shows higher temperature)

CPU_core_temperature = TJMax - Distance_to_TJMax

Get "Real Temp" and look at "Distance to TJMax" - this is the only real raw value read from the CPU:
https://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/

CoreTemp uses the same formula (as it is the only possible) but the author calls TJMax "Tjunction" and Distance "Delta"
Core Temp = Tjunction - Delta
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/howitworks.html


Example: Both programs properly read the same value of 20 (°C)
- but they for sure differ in the "opinion" what is the value of TJMax so come to different calculated temperature:
100 - 20 = 80
95 - 20 = 75
 
559) Questions and Answers : Preferences : New BOINC for Mac (7.6.11) will not show graphics (Message 1733719)
Posted 12 Oct 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
files that start with "setigraphics"

What is the exact full filename? (Copy/Paste)
560) Message boards : Number crunching : AVG threat. (Message 1733457)
Posted 10 Oct 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
AVG is telling me there's a virus, in an EXE file, not in a data file. AVG keeps asking me if it should quarantine the following file:

C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\setiathome_7.07_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_sah.exe

Is this a problem or should I create an exception for it?

The file is Downloaded by BOINC from:
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setiathome_7.07_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_sah.exe

Scan is clean (Detection ratio: 0 / 57)
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/a3ec5e60a9896a3549a238f83c07c1917a92755ebe21fe2af2013146559fc1a3/analysis/

Even AVG is 'green'
- they may have already fixed the signatures
- or you may be using too aggressive Settings in AVG

Does AVG have different levels of 'Advanced heuristics', 'reputation' or similar?
(I stopped using AVG ~10 years ago (on Windows 98) and don't know the look and feel of current AVG versions)


The other two users (Keith Bell, Dave Filipowski) didn't tell anything about which file was "detected" by AVG
This info should exist/can be found in AVG log.
Without that info it's not possible for other readers to test/scan the file.
561) Message boards : Number crunching : AVG threat. (Message 1732880)
Posted 8 Oct 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
you can't beat ESET

+1

(my first +1 post ever ;) )
562) Message boards : Number crunching : 4x AMD Radeon R9 Fury X (Message 1732826)
Posted 8 Oct 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Info: CPU affinity mask used: 1

This means that there is a bug (or a new decision to reduce lag?) in the app.

If "cmdline.txt file is empty" and you do not have <cmdline> in app_info.xml but the app acts as if you use -cpu_lock_fixed_cpu 0 - it should be a bug
I don't remember if BOINC have any ability to set affinity of apps

- check app_info.xml
- try older app (but not very old)

(I was about to suggest using -no_cpu_lock switch but I do not find it in new builds - in older builds (2012) existed -no_cpu_lock switch (it is visible in the exe - e.g. AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r555.exe))
563) Message boards : Number crunching : WTH is this? (Message 1732821)
Posted 8 Oct 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
the stock clock is actually 1379 i just looked

Where did you "just looked"?

When others say to you "stock clock", defaults, "by spec" - they mean NVIDIA

When you say the same - you mean "by EVGA"
And EVGA (as most card manufacturers) do "factory Overclock" (to impress gamers, benchmarks and sell more)
564) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : NVIDIA GPU CUDA 32 & 42 WU Errors: Task Postponed 180.000000 Sec: CuFFT Plan Failure, Temporary Exit (Message 1731905)
Posted 4 Oct 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
In regards to using the Lunatics Installer option, the same lack of technical knowledge may hinder my using or installing it without considerable assistance. I've read the latest v0.43b installer instructions more than once, but the "fog" remains.

- You may be less concerned if you see the screenshots beforehand:
http://prikachi.com/gallery_view.php?user=18390&gal=17578

(They are from older installer but the new looks similar)

- You may stop the install at any time - no changes will be made until you press the last [Install] button:
http://prikachi.com/images/819/7531819a.png


I am perfectly satisfied to process CUDA23s

And you can choose this on the NVIDIA page:
http://prikachi.com/images/817/7531817u.png
565) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Stalling issues with SETI WU's on my newly setup laptop that isn't seen on Einstein WU's. (Message 1731900)
Posted 4 Oct 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I probably have BOINC backups ...

BOINC version have nothing to do with SETI app versions
Older SETI app versions are e.g. in older Lunatics Installers (but I don't think you need them)

Even if you find some old SETI@home app in your "BOINC backups":
- you have to be sure they can work with the current tasks
- you have to know how to make app_info.xml manually to use them

(app_info.xml is made automatically by Lunatics Installers and it will contain the necessary descriptions of the apps you choose (all the apps are inside of the Lunatics Installer))
566) Questions and Answers : Preferences : New BOINC for Mac (7.6.11) will not show graphics (Message 1731895)
Posted 4 Oct 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Executable: setiathome_7.07_x86_64-apple-darwin_avx

You may check by yourself if there is a corresponding Executable for graphics
in SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)

The additional Executable for graphics may have a name starting with setigraphics_ like:
setigraphics_7.07_x86_64-apple-darwin_avx
567) Questions and Answers : Preferences : New BOINC for Mac (7.6.11) will not show graphics (Message 1730946)
Posted 2 Oct 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Can you ask whoever is responsible for the 'Applications' page or the script which generates it
if it's possible to add a column which say e.g. "graphics" for apps that have it?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php
568) Questions and Answers : Preferences : New BOINC for Mac (7.6.11) will not show graphics (Message 1730226)
Posted 30 Sep 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Charlie Fenton asked you this:

"Also, please confirm that you see the project graphics if you select a running task in the Tasks tab of the BOINC Manager and click on Show Graphics. (You will need to set the Activity menu to Run Always to enable this button.)
"
569) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : nVidia drivers failing... (Message 1730217)
Posted 30 Sep 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I think this works in Chrome as well.

in:
chrome://settings/

- the Option in very bottom
[ ] Use hardware acceleration when available


(internal name is gpuModeCheckbox:
<label for="gpu-mode-checkbox" i18n-content="gpuModeCheckbox">Use hardware acceleration when available</label>
)
570) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Crossfire or run separate? (Message 1729654)
Posted 27 Sep 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
my computer stat page now says I have 2 Spectre GPU's, rather than 1 Spectre and 1 CapeVerde.

That is "normal" glitch of the page.

BOINC starts tasks for both and the app detects them properly:

device 0 (Capeverde)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4410465414

device 1 (Spectre)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4410465413

device 0 and then 1
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4410684800
 
571) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc 7.6.9 and Windows 10 (Message 1729172)
Posted 26 Sep 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
BOINC, Word of Tanks or C++ compiler will be Potentially Unwanted Programs (PUP)
- if they are installed covertly or by using misleading check-boxes
- at the time when user try to install something completely different.
Especially if they start automatically (on Windows login, by Scheduled Tasks) and are hard to remove (e.g. no obvious and working uninstall procedure)

E.g. you install 7-Zip using the installer from download.cnet.com (instead of clean installer from 7-zip.org)
Covertly the CNET installer will Download and install toolbars, Plug-ins to show ads, change home page, change search provider, etc... - all unwanted by the user.


You may reconsider the way you earn money from your Software
- instead of forcibly pushing ads on the user (and this way annoy and push the user away from your Software/site)
you may try donations or shareware (e.g. pay after 30 days of use)
572) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc 7.6.9 and Windows 10 (Message 1728824)
Posted 25 Sep 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I don't see any secret in the following PM so I better answer here (so others can comment also):

PM From Igogo:
Hi
Where in my post you see link to my gadget? Or AdWare?
Of course, I have a problem and need solution.
Regards,
Igogo


1) In your second post you provided link to "System Monitor II gadget"
At the bottom of the page:
"Our System Monitor II gadget ..."
"Copyright © 2010-2015 Igor "Igogo" Bushin All rights reserved worldwide."

... so it is obviously your gadget and/or your site.


2) I downloaded SystemMonitorII_MFG.7z and scanned it by local ESET NOD32 Antivirus
As I was expecting - the installer have InstallCore
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InstallCore

"Many of the installers using the platform have been rated adware and Potentially Unwanted Programs (PUP, also PUA), by anti-malware product vendors"


3) Then I sent the file to VirusTotal - the file was already scanned and I provided the link to that VirusTotal scan.


So you posted a link that will/may lure people to download and install "System Monitor II gadget"
which will in fact try to install additional "goodies" in an attempt to earn money for you.


I will not dare install anything from this site (myfavoritegadgets.info)
Someone dare to test? (In VM? In Sandboxie?)
573) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Optimized Applications etc. base URL is now lunatics.kwsn.info (Message 1728762)
Posted 25 Sep 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I've looked at the new Lunatics page, and no where does it tell us noobs what Lunatics actually is or does, ...

The thread you need is this (and follow the links in the last post - there are 3 Download links and one for "full release notes"):
"Optimised Applications and Other Binaries"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71867&postid=1704234#1704234
574) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc 7.6.9 and Windows 10 (Message 1728749)
Posted 25 Sep 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Also read this ...

I hope you didn't created this thread just to promote Ad-Ware?!:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/58244cd7309a79a0b6d16e79b62d8a694fac45f94fc49d02bfe21f3675c6317c/analysis/


P.S.
A few months ago I reported your "BOINC Monitor" gadget because of this and it was removed from boinc.berkeley.edu/addons.php

Me:
To: 432107 (David Anderson)

Subject: "BOINC Monitor" (gadget listed in boinc.berkeley.edu/addons.php) have Ad-ware (InstallCore)


Maybe you should reconsider if that "BOINC Monitor" gadget should be listed on:

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/addons.php

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/addon_item.php?platform=win&item=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myfavoritegadgets.info%2Fmonitors%2FBOINCMonitor%2FBOINCMonitor.html


This is not a 'False Positive'

My post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77353&postid=1685050#1685050

https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/3c4854109324edbab08e7eba246da1fb8b8c07e978d2ef33b351b8857e36abb9/analysis/


Old posts from 2013:

"OK! WHAT have you done to my browser!? Now I go to click on links and I get new tabs that pop up with advertisements!! That is pissing me OFF!!!
BOINC Monitor IS GOING AWAY!!! :("
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71808&postid=1382483#1382483

"The installer is like trying to walk through a mine field. It took me three tries to get a clean install after cleaning all the crap out each time"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71808&postid=1382534#1382534



David Anderson:
I removed BOINC Monitor for the add-on list.
-- David
575) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc 7.6.9 and Windows 10 (Message 1728591)
Posted 24 Sep 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Explain "12-15 processor queue length"
It is unclear (to me at least) where and what you look at

Do you mean something like this:
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc940375.aspx
576) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows 10 upgrade issue? (Message 1728471)
Posted 24 Sep 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The colourful graphics may be a waste of system resources, but they are really good PR.

There is one user (Michael McGrath) who reported possible fix, try it:
"I changed the colour of the graphics and changed it to 'minimalist' setting and the graphics working now. even if I put the graphics back to the original it still works....weird :P"

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77874&postid=1707989#1707989
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77167&postid=1691245#1691245


He probably talks about this:
In SETI@home preferences look for "Graphics preferences" which can be "SETI@home classic", "Minimalist", "Panels", "Custom"

(use "Edit preferences" at bottom)


Several other users were advised to try this but no one responded in any way (Did they try? Did this work for them?)
Please respond if you try and is this working for you ...
 
577) Questions and Answers : Windows : Overall 100.000% Done... What Next? (Message 1727300)
Posted 20 Sep 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
program doesn't seem to do anything automatic.

All is automatic


"squirm" ...

For the "problem" of screensaver:
SETI@home preferences

1) Set "Graphics preferences Custom"
2) Set all "oscillation" to 0
578) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1726551)
Posted 17 Sep 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Did you try the registry tweaks?:
DisableOSUpgrade = 1
ReservationsAllowed = 0

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77121&postid=1726412#1726412
579) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1726412)
Posted 17 Sep 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
*** Some random links to toss at you (maybe most of them you already know)

Windows 7 & 8:

* Lists of "Updates not to Install":

"Microsoft Releases Updates To Spy On Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 Users" / "How to Uninstall Microsoft Spying Updates from Windows 7/8"
:
"Run the following command to check for multiple updates.
You can separate each update with a comma and add as many update numbers that you want to check.
Here is an example command to check for four updates:

get-hotfix -id KB3075249,KB3080149,KB2876229,KB2923545

...
Execute the following command to uninstall any update from your system.
Just change the update number you want to uninstall.

wusa /uninstall /kb:2923545
"
https://www.hackread.com/microsoft-updates-spy-on-windows7-8-users/


- Updates not to Install (In numerical order)
http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/367377-how-remove-windows-10-upgrade-updates-windows-7-8-a-39.html#post3144970

- "Colour-coded" list (by Cosmic_Ocean):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77121&postid=1719932#1719932

"The truth about Windows 7 and 8.1 'spy patches' KB 3068708, 3022345, 3075249, 3080149"
http://www.infoworld.com/article/2981947/microsoft-windows/the-truth-about-windows-7-and-81-spy-patches-kb-3068708-3022345-3075249-and-3080149.html


* DisableOSUpgrade

"What Is The $WINDOWS.~BT Folder On My Hard Drive?"
http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/what-is-the-windows-bt-folder-on-my-hard-drive/

"How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade options"
("Group Policy", Windows registry - DisableOSUpgrade = 1 , "Hide the Get Windows 10 app" - ReservationsAllowed = 0)
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351

"How to stop Windows 10 downloading automatically"
http://betanews.com/2015/09/11/how-to-stop-windows-10-downloading-automatically/

"How to Stop Windows 7 or 8 from Downloading Windows 10 Automatically"
http://www.howtogeek.com/228551/how-to-stop-windows-7-or-8-from-downloading-windows-10-automatically/


* The author of W10Privacy say there are some Settings also for Win 8.1 in his program:
http://www.winprivacy.de/


General searches:
https://www.google.com/#safe=off&q=windows+7+privacy+remove+kb
https://www.google.com/#safe=off&q=windows+7+kb+update+to+avoid


Windows 10:

O&O ShutUp10
http://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77121&postid=1725313#1725313

W10Privacy
http://www.winprivacy.de/
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77121&postid=1725312#1725312

10AppsManager
http://www.thewindowsclub.com/10appsmanager-windows-10
http://www.itworld.com/article/2983665/windows-apps/how-to-uninstall-default-windows-10-apps-you-never-knew-you-had.html
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77121&postid=1726021#1726021


Just info:
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/
https://www.hackread.com/windows-10-internet-bandwidth/
https://www.hackread.com/windows10-spies-shoud-be-ban-in-russia/

https://www.google.com/#safe=off&q=windows+10+privacy+issues

And now thief say: catch the thief ;)
http://www.winbeta.org/news/new-microsoft-president-brad-smith-calls-privacy-act-reform
"Simply put, Smith supports significant changes to current law that would severely restrict law enforcement’s access to information stored in cloud services that reside outside of U.S. borders"


(NONE of the above is tested by me - all is collected only by reading!)
 
580) Questions and Answers : Windows : Computing Preferences change when windows 10 updates. (Message 1725932)
Posted 15 Sep 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You get win10 updates without warning or choice.

You may read some posts on "Windows 10 - Yea or Nay?":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77121&postid=1725500#1725500

To overcome Windows 10 spy "features" and to control automatic updates some people recommended:

O&O ShutUp10
http://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77121&postid=1725313#1725313

W10Privacy
http://www.winprivacy.de/
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77121&postid=1725312#1725312
581) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Technical question. (Message 1725929)
Posted 15 Sep 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You obviously don't want to get CUDA (NVIDIA GPU) tasks - you Abort them en masse:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7765726&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=

Better:
Go to your SETI@home preferences

... and un-check 'Use NVIDIA GPU'

(use 'Edit preferences' at bottom)


There are also Settings to make the GPU compute only when you don't use the computer (if that is what you want):
Computing preferences
582) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Technical question. (Message 1725927)
Posted 15 Sep 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The 'SETI@home science database' (size > 10 TB - I don't remember more precisely)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html

... contains Billions of "signals" found so far by all participants
(they still wait to be re-analysed - compared against each other for repeatability on different observations)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sci_status.html

SetiSpirit shows only your tasks.
Total Workunits processed (till 4 Nov 2014 as shown on the 'Science status page') 1,756,367,442


You didn't read (at full) the links I posted:
"What If My Computer Discovers E.T.? What happens?":
http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/about_seti/about_seti_at_home_5.html
583) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Technical question. (Message 1725422)
Posted 13 Sep 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I do only CPU tasks ...

You have some CUDA tasks "Completed and validated":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7765726&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=

And I don't understand why you needed/wanted to abort some of them:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7765726&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=
584) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Technical question. (Message 1725287)
Posted 13 Sep 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Where I can listen that voice ...

There is external program (SETIspirit) to listen "that voice" but you'll be annoyed in a few minutes (the sound is not voice but noise)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73605&postid=1570933#1570933
http://www.setispirit.de/downloads.htm


When program says packet is ready to report does it do that automatically?

Yes (in a few minutes to a few hours)


If that red bar is flat ...

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_glossary.php
http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/about_seti/about_seti_at_home_1.html
http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/screensaver/index.html

The info/pictures are old (written years ago) but the principles are almost the same.
The screensaver don't compute - it only shows very small part of the analysis.
The SETI@home screensaver works only on CPU tasks. (GPU applications don't have screensaver part/exe)
585) Questions and Answers : Windows : Location of files to upload (Message 1724972)
Posted 12 Sep 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I found that a peer block firewall was blocking all my traffic to the internet, boinc include. I uninstall peer block now and it all works fine.

I use PeerBlock 1.1 with 9 lists but "HTTP is Allowed"
(so BOINC, browsers, and similar are Not blocked and only things like µTorrent, BitComet, Skype, ... are blocked to connect to the range of addresses "Blocking 1 077 593 617 IPs")
586) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Time Graphic (Message 1724968)
Posted 12 Sep 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Online it is possible by external "stat-sites":
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/0/user/detail/143873/charts
http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=userbycpid&cpid=67f73e7c58b2adbc0138211cddf2299c

It is also possible to change the default 30 days that are kept locally
The following will keep 10 years:
<cc_config>
   <log_flags>
   </log_flags>

   <options>
      <save_stats_days>3650</save_stats_days>
   </options>
</cc_config>


Read about cc_config.xml
587) Message boards : Number crunching : hardware question and average work done.. (Message 1724094)
Posted 10 Sep 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6850463
This is the host i installed ver 0.43b 64-bit.
The error tasks are ghosts, that were produced when i installed lunatics.

This should not happen - the installer have the necessary 'code' to deal with AstroPulse v7 v7.10 (opencl_nvidia_cc1)

Inside Lunatics_Win32_v0.43b_setup.exe (open by 7-Zip) there is file AP7_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_NV.aistub and it have section:
    <app_version>
        <app_name>astropulse_v7</app_name>
        <version_num>710</version_num>
        <avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>
        <plan_class>opencl_nvidia_cc1</plan_class>
       	<cmdline></cmdline>
        <coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
...

To check what BOINC logged about those tasks (to see were they ever been on-board)
- in files stdoutdae.txt and stdoutdae.old
- find the following strings:
ap_01jn12ab_B1_P1_00178_20150813_13797.wu
ap_02my15ab_B2_P1_00313_20150814_05120.wu
ap_06my15aa_B4_P1_00002_20150811_30134.wu

- that way you will see when/if they were Downloaded and when/if they were Deleted
588) Questions and Answers : Windows : Location of files to upload (Message 1724093)
Posted 10 Sep 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So you said "I need to re-install windows" just because Windows can't connect to Internet?
Describe your network problem and we may be able to help (and save you from re-install of Windows)
e.g.:
- is the computer connected to a Router?
- can other devices/computers connect through that Router to Internet?
- can "this" computer see the other computers on the LAN (e.g. shared files)?
589) Questions and Answers : Windows : Computation error Intel GPU (Message 1723454)
Posted 8 Sep 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Still don't know why there was something wrong with boinc trying to open files.

If you mean this:
WARNING: can't open binary kernel file

1) This is Message from the app, Not from BOINC "trying to open files"

2) That is normal, those files don't exist at first run.
They are compiled (by the app + OpenCL driver) on first run from MultiBeam_Kernels_r????.cl
They are reused on next runs (to save compilation time)

They will be re-compiled when/if the app version or driver version changes.
590) Questions and Answers : Windows : Computation error Intel GPU (Message 1723004)
Posted 7 Sep 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Exit status 197 (0xc5) EXIT_TIME_LIMIT_EXCEEDED
exceeded elapsed time limit 19474.11 (1414546.15G/72.64G)

Obviously BOINC estimates are too low.
BOINC thinks the tasks will finish in 16 minutes and they were running for 324 minutes


The next is a fix for Advanced user - do it on your own risk:

- Exit BOINC
- in BOINC Data directory find the file client_state.xml
- make Copy of it (to start over if you made mistake)

- Edit client_state.xml by Notepad and:

Ctrl+H

Find what:
<rsc_fpops_bound>

Replace with:
<rsc_fpops_bound>1

[Replace All]

Ctrl+S

- Start BOINC


The above will make BOINC wait ~3000 minutes before aborting task
After some (>10) tasks are completed BOINC will learn the speed of your GPU and next Downloads will have more good estimates.

If you don't understand what I wrote - don't do it!
591) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC starting up under WIN 10 (Message 1722683)
Posted 5 Sep 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Clicking on OK does not trigger correct operation, only if I click Apply.

Then try: click Apply and hit [Esc]
592) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1722679)
Posted 5 Sep 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
P.S. @ BilBg: The repair install did not go through. I was able to get past the first error 'Your current Winblows is a newer version...', but I ran into another stating that 'Winblows 7 Professional cannot be upgraded to Winblows 7 Professional'.
I tried 3 different ways to do it per that page you linked to...

Did you try:
Downloading Windows installation media
"Non-OEM (if Windows was not preinstalled) users can visit the Microsoft Software Recovery page and download the Windows installation ISO by entering correct product key. This seems to work for Windows 7 only..."
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download
https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download

Such disc image (ISO file) will have SP1 and maybe other updates embedded

P.S.
Year ago it was possible to Download without product key:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/248995/how-to-install-windows-7-without-the-disc.html
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/653d34d9-ac99-42db-80c8-6300f01f7aae/windows-7downloard

"UPDATE 2/25/15 Digital River no longer works; you can now download Windows 7 ISOs from Microsoft's Software Recovery website."
593) Questions and Answers : Windows : Mysterious_ [error] Couldn't parse account file account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml (Message 1722659)
Posted 5 Sep 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
No response for 5 hrs+ ...

Because your posts are hard to read (I give up after a few rows (yesterday I just looked at the 2 posts and gave up))
- what do you mean by using = on empty lines??
- what "Registry cleaner", "Power Settings", "NVidia driver", Comodo ... have to do with "Couldn't parse account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml"?

1) State clearly in 1-2 sentences what the problem is
2) Provide Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E)

3) Check if the file account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml exists in BOINC Data directory
4) If you want to post it's contents - remove the line (in your post, not in the file):
<authenticator>XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX</authenticator>

(And of course the file is created when you "Add Project")
594) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1721325)
Posted 2 Sep 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
while trying to do a repair install of Win7, I was told that the version of Windows on the PC is 'newer than the one on disk'.

(as you don't like to see my posts you may just ignore the next info)

See if the info (LONG, with pictures and links) on this page will help you (I read it only partially)
"Non-destructive reinstall of Windows Vista or 7"
https://www.winhelp.us/non-destructive-reinstall-of-windows-7.html

"OEM media (the customized Windows install DVD that came with your PC) might cause errors, such as "Windows 7 Professional cannot be upgraded to Windows 7 Professional"."

P.S.
The link is found as first result from your sentence:
while trying to do a repair install of Win7, I was told that the version of Windows on the PC is 'newer than the one on disk'
https://www.google.com/#q=while+trying+to+do+a+repair+install+of+Win7%2C+I+was+told+that+the+version+of+Windows+on+the+PC+is+%27newer+than+the+one+on+disk%27
595) Message boards : Number crunching : No co-processor (Message 1721245)
Posted 2 Sep 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I ran Drive Sweeper, now called Display Driver Uninstaller

This is not the first time I see someone say ~ "DS now called DDU"
No, "it" is not "now called" ..., they are different programs by different authors.

"Driver Sweeper" (not Drive Sweeper) is/was first (looking at Changelog (2.1.0) - 26-11-09):
Copyright © 2007-2009, Phyxion.net
Published by Guru3D.com

* first name seems to be XDC (DC = Driver Cleaner, I don't know what X stands for or which individual is the original author)
* Changelog (0.4.0) - 03-06-07: XDC is renamed to Guru3D - Driver Cleaner
* Changelog (0.4.1) - 06-06-07: Guru3D - Driver Cleaner has been renamed to Guru3D - Driver Sweeper (G3DDS)
http://www.guru3d.com/content-page/guru3d-driver-sweeper.html

* Then the last free version 3.2.0 (I still use it to save/restore positions of Desktop icons) is/was:
Driver Sweeper 3.2.0
Copyright © 2007-2011, Phyxion.net
Published by Phyxion.net

- The file still exists at:
http://www.techspot.com/downloads/4266-driver-sweeper.html
(I checked it is the same file I have from Phyxion.net downloaded on 13.12.2011)

But the file may have some Ad-Ware which I (probably) unchecked during install (years ago):
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/6561ee6b52334a849bd0768ff626e0895b514a60903de720851d1a23ef0cab5d/analysis/

* Then Phyxion.net decided to make the program payed/ad-supported and renamed it to Driver Fusion
http://phyxion.net/
"The Phyxion Driver Sweeper is replaced by the new and improved Treexy Driver Fusion!"
(in fact Driver Fusion may be completely re-written program, I don't know. At least the GUI looks different and ugly to me)

* And now (August 21, 2015) they claim "Driver Fusion is now ad free" (but there are free and "Premium" versions)
https://treexy.com/about/news/driver-fusion-is-now-ad-free/

~~~~~~~

Guru3D say "Driver Sweeper has been replaced with Display Driver Uninstaller"
"replaced" does not mean "now called" - it means "another (better?) program to be used for this purpose"
http://www.guru3d.com/content-page/guru3d-driver-sweeper.html


Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU)
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

"DDU is an application that is programmed by Ghislain Harvey aka Wagnard in our forums,
Guru3D.com is the official download partner for this handy application."

The site of the author:
http://www.wagnardmobile.com/DDU/


-- See the last line in About DDU --




P.S.
Driver Sweeper 3.2.0 can remove also several other drivers (e.g. LAN, sound, chipset, USB, ...)
DDU removes only Display Drivers
 
596) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 7 configuration issue that affects GPU crunching - help needed (Message 1719817)
Posted 28 Aug 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
And no, no any 3rd party AV soft there.

Then you may have malware?

One of my neighbours had a similar problem (Windows 7) - on external USB HDD one day he can't see 90% of the directories.
Inserted this USB HDD in my computer and using Total Commander it was clear all the data is there but many directories and files had the H and S attributes set.
As he can't explain who or what did that (his son, some "scanner") I just selected all and cleared H and S (again by Total Commander)

But a month later the same happened - and only then I discovered he don't use any Antivirus
Installing ESET NOD32 Antivirus revealed some stupid ransom-ware (I don't remember which) that do this "hiding"
I cleared H and S again and since then (~ year ago) he didn't have this "hiding" problem (NOD32 is still installed of course).

So consider a scan by the free On-demand ESET Online Scanner
https://www.eset.com/us/online-scanner/

It is not really "Online" (you can exit the browser unless you use IE)
In fact you get a small file which downloads the main program and runs it
http://download.eset.com/special/eos/esetsmartinstaller_enu.exe




Or do you like more Dr.Web CureIt
http://free.drweb.com/cureit/

 
597) Message boards : Number crunching : download to flash drive (Message 1719771)
Posted 28 Aug 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So I believe in the old acronym KISS (Keep it Simple Stupid!)

Yes, that was my post all about - don't waste your time to explain how to add 2+2 (unless it is a pleasure for you)

Just say "Copy the file to wherever you want. If you can't find the file - ask".
He already asked several questions so will not be "afraid to admit they don't understand"

And to answer earlier post: of course the installer can be run directly from USB stick
It remains unclear to me if the OP wants exactly this (to distribute the BOINC installer)
598) Message boards : Number crunching : Work units processing performance has collapsed!! (Message 1719743)
Posted 28 Aug 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
file '/Users/J0hnMcIntyre/Library/Preferences/BOINC Manager Preferences', line80: '='expected

Why don't you open the file in a simple text editor and see what is on and around line #80 ?

The file should be in:
/Users/J0hnMcIntyre/Library/Preferences/
... and have the name:
BOINC Manager Preferences


* To show pictures:
- use other site of your choice tu Upload the picture
- get a link from it then here in your post format it like this:

[img]http://prikachi.com/images/817/7531817u.png[/img]

... and you'll see the picture:




E.g. this site don't need registration:
http://savepic.org/index.php
599) Questions and Answers : Windows : FTP not working (Message 1719692)
Posted 28 Aug 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
FTP means "File Transfer Protocol"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Transfer_Protocol

Nobody will imagine it means "Frequency, Time, Power graph" (You can change the title - new post, then [Edit] it)

You are using 'Intel HD Graphics' so the answer is clear/known:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77874&postid=1707989#1707989

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74178&postid=1481247#1481247

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76338
600) Message boards : Number crunching : download to flash drive (Message 1719308)
Posted 27 Aug 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You really spent too much of your time to explain the simple "How to Copy files"
If he really don't know where the browser Downloads files - every browser have a Setting to "Ask where to save each file before downloading"
601) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1719295)
Posted 27 Aug 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Firefox with AD Block + and Ghostery is the norm.

May I recommend you uBlock Origin instead:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm

https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki
602) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 7 configuration issue that affects GPU crunching - help needed (Message 1719239)
Posted 27 Aug 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You can try "NTFS Access" by Zeus Software (Freeware, 26 KB)
http://www.zeus-software.com/downloads/ntfsaccess

Do you by chance have installed any "security package" (Antivirus) that may do this lock-of-permissions?
603) Questions and Answers : Windows : Cuda initialization error (Message 1717627)
Posted 24 Aug 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Why does my Einstein @ Home continue operate normally and the Seti doesn't?

?? Not true, both fail:

SETI@home
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7218130&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4334160151

   Device cannot be used
  Cuda device initialisation retry 4 of 6, waiting 5 secs...
Cuda error 'Couldn't get cuda device count
' in file 'c:/[Projects]/__Sources/sah_v7_opt/Xbranch/client/cuda/cudaAcceleration.cu' in line 137 : no CUDA-capable device is detected.
setiathome_CUDA: cudaGetDeviceCount() call failed.
setiathome_CUDA: No CUDA devices found


Einstein@Home
https://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/results.php?hostid=11697955&offset=0&show_names=1&state=5&appid=0
https://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/result.php?resultid=515679170

Cannot create a symbolic link in a registry key that already has subkeys or values.
 (0x3fc) - exit code 1020 (0x3fc)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
Activated exception handling...
[20:28:07][75020][INFO ] Starting data processing...
[20:28:07][75020][ERROR] Couldn't initialize CUDA driver API (error: 100)!
[20:28:07][75020][ERROR] Demodulation failed (error: 1020)!
604) Questions and Answers : Preferences : BOINC Manager: " "Receiving Current Status" . . . NOT (Message 1716742)
Posted 22 Aug 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You may find something in old posts:
https://www.google.com/#q=boinc+manager+retrieving+current+status

Probably firewall problem or boinc client is not running

Check the processes running with whatever tool exists on Mac
http://osxdaily.com/2013/05/17/see-all-running-apps-mac-os-x/
605) Questions and Answers : Windows : Cannot get any more units (Message 1687927)
Posted 5 Jun 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Although I do not understand the "long weekend" ...

Maybe it is something on this list (but I don't know what was meant by "long weekend" either):
http://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/us/
606) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : [SETI] "Project has no [GPU] tasks available" (Message 1687893)
Posted 5 Jun 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If you want only GPU SETI@home v7 CUDA (NVIDIA) tasks - it is easy:

1) Get:
setiathome_x41zc_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu_cuda60.7z

2) Uncompress it (have 4 files inside) in:
SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)

3) You may need to make files executable by:
chmod +x .....

4) Restart BOINC


If you ever want to revert to stock:
- Report finished tasks ([Update] button)
- Delete app_info.xml
- Reset project


P.S.
NOT needed reading ;)

The included app_info.xml have section for 'plain' CPU app.
It will just remain unused (automatically) if your web Settings are to not get CPU tasks.
<app_info>
	<app>
		<name>setiathome_v7</name>
	</app>
	<file_info>
		<name>setiathome_7.01_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu</name>
		<executable/>
	</file_info>
	<app_version>
		<app_name>setiathome_v7</app_name>
		<version_num>701</version_num>
		<avg_ncpus>1.000000</avg_ncpus>
		<max_ncpus>1.000000</max_ncpus>
		<file_ref>
			<file_name>setiathome_7.01_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu</file_name>
			<main_program/>
		</file_ref>
	</app_version>
	<file_info>
		<name>setiathome_x41zc_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu_cuda60</name>
		<executable/>
	</file_info>
	<file_info>
		<name>libcudart.so.6.0</name>
		<executable/>
	</file_info>
	<file_info>
		<name>libcufft.so.6.0</name>
		<executable/>
	</file_info>
	<app_version>
		<app_name>setiathome_v7</app_name>
		<version_num>704</version_num>
		<plan_class>cuda60</plan_class>
		<avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
		<max_ncpus>0.10</max_ncpus>
		<coproc>
			<type>CUDA</type>
			<count>1.0</count>
		</coproc>
		<file_ref>
			<file_name>setiathome_x41zc_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu_cuda60</file_name>
			<main_program/>
		</file_ref>
		<file_ref>
			<file_name>libcudart.so.6.0</file_name>
		</file_ref>
		<file_ref>
			<file_name>libcufft.so.6.0</file_name>
		</file_ref>
	</app_version>
</app_info> 
607) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : [SETI] "Project has no [GPU] tasks available" (Message 1687886)
Posted 4 Jun 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thu 04 Jun 2015 05:17:30 PM EDT | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 750 Ti (driver version 346.59, CUDA version 7.0, compute capability 5.0, 2047MB, 1655MB available, 1388 GFLOPS peak)
Thu 04 Jun 2015 05:17:30 PM EDT | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 750 Ti (driver version 346.59, device version OpenCL 1.1 CUDA, 2047MB, 1655MB available, 1388 GFLOPS peak)
.....
Thu 04 Jun 2015 05:17:30 PM EDT | | OS: Linux: 3.19.0-18-generic

Stock applications:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

on Linux:
SETI@home v7 - only apps for CPU and ATI AMD
AstroPulse v7 - apps for CPU, NVIDIA and ATI AMD (but no AstroPulse tasks at the moment)


P.S.
When you use Linux - it is better to stress this in the first words on the first post.
Else most people (including me) 'think Windows' by default ;)


P.P.S.
You may read here how to get custom apps ('optimized', Anonymous platform , app_info.xml)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77018&start=0

Link to apps is in this post by the author/programmer (jason_gee, Jason Groothuis)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77018&postid=1660631#1660631

Bottom of this page:
http://jgopt.org/download.html
608) Message boards : Number crunching : CPU jobs needing to be aborted (Message 1687729)
Posted 4 Jun 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Joe, was affinity pinning to single core tried before?

I did my tests on single-core CPU:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75617&postid=1577361#1577361

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75617&postid=1575843#1575843

"It happens in 30-40% at start/restart of tasks on my K6-2+ but only when it is booted in Windows 2000
When the same system runs in Windows 98 it never happens"

This K6-2+ have fixed clock (by jumpers) at FSB 95 * 5.5 = 524 MHz
No PowerNow! on this Desktop computer (Shuttle VIA MVP3)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_K6-2#K6-2.2B
http://www.anandtech.com/show/134
609) Message boards : Number crunching : CPU jobs needing to be aborted (Message 1687558)
Posted 4 Jun 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
A month ago we discussed this in:
"Crunching appears to stop":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77279
610) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1687442)
Posted 3 Jun 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
There isn't any rush to "reserve" your copy. The upgrade will be free for a year after it is released.

Also this page has all the details you would need about moving to Windows 10.
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-upgrade

How to interpret:
"Once you upgrade, you have Windows 10 for free on that device"

Maybe:
If you have Windows 7 ("Genuine" = you have some number/code to 'activate' it) and you decide to get a new computer (e.g. 2 years from now):
- you can 'retire' the old Windows 7 install and again install + activate Windows 7 on the new computer using the same number/code?

- But you can't do the same with Windows 10 (which you get as upgrade to Windows 7)?
611) Message boards : Number crunching : Best GPUs List (Message 1687433)
Posted 3 Jun 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You may want to read this short thread:
"Proposed Enhancement for TOP GPU MODELS Page":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75889

There are posts by Josef W. Segur and by David Anderson
612) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : New Linux OpenCL App for AMD/ATi?! (Message 1687160)
Posted 3 Jun 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Developers/programmers of GPU apps (CUDA, OpenCL) read and post in Number Crunching

You are not "the first to have" "Scheduler wait", e.g.:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75005

I don't know the cause of your "particular problem" (maybe because of only 256MB GPU memory or the driver version?) so better ask in Number Crunching
613) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : New Linux OpenCL App for AMD/ATi?! (Message 1686175)
Posted 31 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You can see the apps here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

Date for opencl_ati5_linux_nocal is 30 May 2013 but I don't know if it is correct.
It may be new plan_class (new for Linux)
(i.e. it may be old app but new plan_class)

In fact the app (executable) is the same for all these plan classes (or maybe 2 variants for HD 4xxx and HD 5xxx+ ?):
opencl_ati5_linux
opencl_ati5_linux_nocal
opencl_ati_linux
opencl_ati_linux_nocal


Read some (5-10) posts here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77102&postid=1685088#1685088

The verdict/fix (28 May 2015): "Eric found a typo in the plan class specification file"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77102&postid=1685215#1685215
614) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Just plodding along, then ?????? what the?? (Message 1686170)
Posted 31 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If you want to go 'optimized' get:
Lunatics Installer v0.43a (which have all the apps inside, creates app_info.xml)
http://lunatics.kwsn.info/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9

Read the thread linked at 'Message 1596404'
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71867&postid=1596404#1596404

After you become familiar how 'things' work - you may then get some newer apps and 'install' them manually by editing app_info.xml
615) Questions and Answers : Windows : Malware Alert from Avast AV Software on Win 8.1 (Message 1685919)
Posted 30 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
For reference - here is some history of the scans:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/0e3e5d238a68c92965fe38ad7d881406b4f511455b2327f3964b6646c1d00165/analysis/1432470000/
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/0e3e5d238a68c92965fe38ad7d881406b4f511455b2327f3964b6646c1d00165/analysis/1432500000/
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/0e3e5d238a68c92965fe38ad7d881406b4f511455b2327f3964b6646c1d00165/analysis/1432600000/

https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/0e3e5d238a68c92965fe38ad7d881406b4f511455b2327f3964b6646c1d00165/analysis/1432900000/
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/0e3e5d238a68c92965fe38ad7d881406b4f511455b2327f3964b6646c1d00165/analysis/1432970000/

https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/0e3e5d238a68c92965fe38ad7d881406b4f511455b2327f3964b6646c1d00165/analysis/
616) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange Memory Anomaly Caused by BOINC Monitor Gadget -(modified by request)- (Message 1685803)
Posted 29 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Well, I'm pretty well certain that I found the widget that caused my problem, the BOINC widget. Sidebar.exe is right about where it was at yesterday after my reboot... without the BOINC widget running.

Now that you know the "BOINC Monitor gadget" is/was the culprit - can you change the name of this (your) thread? (i.e. do you know how?)

e.g. to something like:
Strange Memory Phenomenon When using "BOINC Monitor" gadget/widget
Strange Memory Phenomenon - Resolved: caused by "BOINC Monitor" widget by Igogo
617) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange Memory Anomaly Caused by BOINC Monitor Gadget -(modified by request)- (Message 1685379)
Posted 29 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Why do you have that dumb Danasoft thing in your signature? ... especially with the picture of Clinton.

I don't know why you find it "dumb" ... and Hillary is the only woman they offer:
http://www.danasoft.com/


I don't remember getting the BOINC widget.

??? It can't appear by itself

You maybe got it from:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/addons.php

Or more probably from here:
Your post: (18 Jun 2013) "I just updated to v9.07 BOINC Monitor."
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71808&postid=1382483#1382483


You certainly seem to have found the location and got yours.

If "got yours" imply I'm using widget/gadget - I'm not using any


Why yours caused a virus warning, I don't have a clue. It did not cause one for me.

Did you check the VirusTotal link?
Only 10 Antiviruses (of 57) detect this file.

Only if you use AVG, Comodo, DrWeb, ESET-NOD32, GData, Malwarebytes (and some others) this ad-ware will be detected.
If you have any other (e.g. Avast, Avira, BitDefender, Kaspersky, McAfee, Microsoft, Panda, Symantec, TrendMicro, ...) the file will be missed (Not detected)

From my previous post you can see I use ESET NOD32 Antivirus

(and again: I don't use "BOINC Monitor gadget", I only get it to scan it and then deleted the file (BOINCMonitorSetup.exe) without running it)

P.S.
"BOINC Monitor" gadget by Igor "Igogo" Bushin / myfavoritegadgets.info
is different program than BoincMonitor by eFMer (which is installed with BoincTasks)
618) Questions and Answers : Windows : Malware Alert from Avast AV Software on Win 8.1 (Message 1685367)
Posted 28 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
OK, BitDefender is fixed (which fixes also 6-7 Antiviruses depending on it)

If somebody uses one of the remaining (McAfee, Ikarus, Norman, ...) - you already have enough info to know what to do ...
619) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange Memory Anomaly Caused by BOINC Monitor Gadget -(modified by request)- (Message 1685050)
Posted 28 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What is this "BOINC widget" you talk about? (Link where you get it?)

http://www.overclock.net/t/1553919/users-beware-of-boinc-widget

I just tested to Download "BOINC Monitor" from:
http:// www.myfavoritegadgets.info/monitors/BOINCMonitor/update.html

... and it gives 'Orange warning' in ESET NOD32 Antivirus:

HTTP filter
http://cdn.myfavoritegadgetscontent.com/c?x=Mfgn...........cA==&downloadAs=BOINCMonitorSetup.exe&fallback_url=http://www.myfavoritegadgets.info/data/wrong.html
a variant of Win32/InstallCore.ZC potentially unwanted application
connection terminated - quarantined
Threat was detected upon access to web by the application: ...\Browser\IronPortable\Iron\chrome.exe.


https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/3c4854109324edbab08e7eba246da1fb8b8c07e978d2ef33b351b8857e36abb9/analysis/

P.S.
Why do you need any "BOINC widget" when there is BoincTasks

I use Ctrl+` as hot-key to look at BoincTasks
620) Questions and Answers : Windows : Malware Alert from Avast AV Software on Win 8.1 (Message 1684996)
Posted 28 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Avast fixed it:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/0e3e5d238a68c92965fe38ad7d881406b4f511455b2327f3964b6646c1d00165/analysis/

Now to see when BitDefender will.


Submitted also to:

F-Secure
https://analysis.f-secure.com/portal/login.html

MicroWorld-eScan
http://support.mwti.net/support/index.php
621) Questions and Answers : Windows : I seem to have two accounts according to BOINC stats (Message 1684949)
Posted 28 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The first (stats/0/user) shows only the SETI@home stats
The second (stats/-1/user) is BOINC combined stats (sum of all your projects)
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/26369/projectList
622) Questions and Answers : Windows : Not 100% even though number of tasks per core (Message 1683782)
Posted 24 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You also have very few tasks 'In progress' ('In progress' = still not reported as finished)):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7467930&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1&appid=

So You may want to:

Check/set the Local preferences for e.g.:
Minimum work buffer 3 days
Max additional work buffer 0.1 days

(don't use more than 0.1 days for the second value, big value will make BOINC ask for work much less often)
623) Questions and Answers : Preferences : CPU Usage (Message 1683779)
Posted 24 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
No, the CPU is set to:

Use at most 100% of the CPUs
Use at most 100% of CPU time

You don't read or do not understand.
Read again my previous post - these 2 values set on web to 100 do not matter at all since it is clear you use Local preferences


Would a full re-install of BOINC perhaps solve the issue?

No
"full re-install of BOINC" do not touch any Settings/Preferences - they will remain as they are now
Un-install of BOINC also don't remove any Settings/Preferences
624) Questions and Answers : Windows : Not 100% even though number of tasks per core (Message 1683724)
Posted 24 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
"Where" means:
- in Computing preferences
- or in Local preferences

As you say "processor usage" this means Local preferences (so what you set must 'take' imediately)


Set both to 100
625) Questions and Answers : Windows : Malware Alert from Avast AV Software on Win 8.1 (Message 1683722)
Posted 24 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I also reported to Avast
https://support.avast.com/Tickets/Ticket/View/WSJ-428-96444

I will not bother to fix the:
"McAfee - Artemis"
"TrendMicro-HouseCall - TROJ_GEN"
"Symantec reputation - Suspicious.Insight" (on [Additional information] tab)

... as I find them stupid (these show on almost anything)
626) Questions and Answers : Windows : Malware Alert from Avast AV Software on Win 8.1 (Message 1683658)
Posted 24 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Link to the file:
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/download/setiathome_7.06_windows_intelx86__opencl_intel_gpu_sah.exe

It is 'False Positive' from Avast - Please send the file or the above URL to Avast and say to them: 'False Positive' (so they can fix the detection/signatures)

Also BitDefender is in fault - all Antiviruses that (Falsely) reported "Gen:Variant.Fosniw" are using the BitDefender engine/signatures:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/0e3e5d238a68c92965fe38ad7d881406b4f511455b2327f3964b6646c1d00165/analysis/

(I use ESET-NOD32)


P.S.
I just reported to:

Ad-Aware / Lavasoft
http://lavasoft.com/support/securitycenter/report_false_positives.php

BitDefender
http://www.bitdefender.com/site/Main/automaticSampleUploader/

G DATA
https://su.gdatasoftware.com/us/sample-submission/


The following:

http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/download/setiathome_7.06_windows_intelx86__opencl_intel_gpu_sah.exe

False Positive - Gen:Variant.Fosniw.1

https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/0e3e5d238a68c92965fe38ad7d881406b4f511455b2327f3964b6646c1d00165/analysis/

BitDefender is in fault - all Antiviruses that (Falsely) reported "Gen:Variant.Fosniw" are using the BitDefender engine/signatures



*** I get the links from this List of links to report to Antivirus vendors:
http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/how-report-malware-or-false-positives-multiple-antivirus-vendors.htm

Use Ctrl+F for Avast and you'll find:
http://www.avast.com/contact-us.php?subject=VIRUS-FILE
627) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange Memory Anomaly Caused by BOINC Monitor Gadget -(modified by request)- (Message 1683647)
Posted 24 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
System Protection is using 9 GB currently and is allowed to use 10 GB - so that seems like a default setting.

10 GB may be 1% of 1000 GB disk
So if you both have 1 TB HDD ...
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/how-much-disk-space-does-system-restore-require

(It seems the default to be 1% on Windows XP - checked on a computer that I think I left this on default)
628) Message boards : Number crunching : Cl file build failure (Message 1683645)
Posted 24 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
-- My Bad!

Why "Your Bad"??

(I'm not in the course who 'invented' bool2 - if that was you: I think there was no way for anyone to know that NVIDIA will reserve bool2 in the future)
629) Message boards : Number crunching : Balancing CPU and GPU Downloads – How? (Message 1683407)
Posted 23 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
the thing is: one account is SETi@home, another one has been BOINC_BAM account...which has not merged, evem though I have same emails on all accounts!

Both are SETI@home accounts (See the links? They 'look the same' except for the userid=)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=9989917
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=9989358

You can't "have same emails" on both SETI@home accounts - the server will not allow that.


another one has been BOINC_BAM account

"another one" is SETI@home account created (by mistake?) by using "BOINC_BAM"
I never used BAM (BOINC Account Manager (BAM!)) so don't know the details how it works.
But it for sure created another SETI@home account using another email


... which has not merged ...

There is no way to merge/combine/join the two SETI@home accounts - it is not allowed to prevent account steal.
630) Message boards : Number crunching : Obtaining New GPU AP Apps for Linux ?? (Message 1683402)
Posted 23 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I did a lot poking around and found the "AstroPulse_Kernels_r2751.cl" file in /usr/sbin/BOINC/projects

If that file was in "BOINC/projects" and not in "BOINC/projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu" - it must be you that put it there by mistake.
I don't see any other explanation.

(Nor BOINC nor any app will look for or put any file in "BOINC/projects")
631) Questions and Answers : Preferences : CPU Usage (Message 1683377)
Posted 23 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm also not seeing any work being routed to the GPU

Your computer now don't have tasks for GPU:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7514069&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1&appid=

- Enlarge (make wide) the 'Application' column on your screenshot, now you can't see which tasks are for GPU

- Check on SETI@home preferences 'Use ATI GPU' is checked
But since you have "Requesting new tasks for CPU and AMD/ATI GPU" it is very probably checked.

Work is not "routed to the GPU" - instead the task is marked/labeled 'for GPU' at the moment it is assigned (Downloaded) to your computer.
Despite the tasks are the same: Tasks assigned 'for CPU' will not be "routed to the GPU" locally


Work ... now it's hanging for a second or so every few seconds

If you talk about CPU load graph in some program (Windows Task Manager, Process Explorer, ...)
- this is clear sign you set:
Use at most XX% of CPU time
... to less than 100%

First read this my post to understand which preferences are/will be in effect:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77325&postid=1679909#1679909

You use Local preferences - I know because of this line:
5/23/2015 8:35:19 AM | | Reading preferences override file

So change the values in Local preferences

If you need to control temperature - don't use the BOINC Setting "Use at most XX% of CPU time" (= set it to 100%)
Use TThrottle instead.


5/23/2015 8:37:20 AM | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and AMD/ATI GPU
5/23/2015 8:37:22 AM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks

Check/set the Local preferences for e.g.:
Minimum work buffer 3 days
Max additional work buffer 0.1 days

(don't use more than 0.1 days for the second value, big value will make BOINC ask for work much less often)
632) Questions and Answers : Preferences : CPU Usage (Message 1682878)
Posted 23 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
How many CPU tasks are running?
Only 3? (3/8 = 0.375)

How many CPU tasks do you have on board?
If more than 3 and they do not run - check Status column in Tasks tab
Also check in Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E) for any 'strange' Messages

Did you changed any of this:
Use at most 100% of the CPUs
Use at most 100% of CPU time
633) Message boards : Number crunching : Latest NV driver - 352.86 (Message 1682611)
Posted 22 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Can avoid the thing (opencl 1.2 *bug) either by avoiding 350.12 driver or using a *fixed driver, if NVidia *fixed that in post-350.12 versions

You continue to talk about some "opencl 1.2 *bug" but there is no such thing.

It was only a name clash:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77133&postid=1665102#1665102
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/forum_thread.php?id=2182&postid=53981#53981

Raistmer: "OpenCL 1.2 has little or no connection to this issue. AMD has OpenCL 1.2 support long ago and never complained about bool2. It's not in specification. But nVidia decided to reserve this type name."

'bool2' name was used in the SETI@home OpenCL apps but now "nVidia decided to reserve this type name"
So don't expect 'a fix' in next NVIDIA drivers as this is not a "OpenCL 1.2 bug"

P.S.
This is like:
If you make a new car in your garage and give it a name "Car2" you are free to do so.
Then some corporation decides to make its own line of cars under trade name "Car2" and reserves that name by patent/copyright

You will be forced to rename your "Car2" to something else as you can't expect the corporation to 'fix the name' in next release.

But this is not a bug.
And the issue is not because their "Car2" uses "Engine 1.1" or "Engine 1.2"
634) Message boards : Number crunching : Disk space error message (Message 1682557)
Posted 22 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... while I figure out how to make the volumes talk to each other ...

Volumes/partitions don't "talk to each other"
The "data volume" (made by you? maybe visible as D:) it there for you to manually make directories and copy/save files on it.

There are ways to tweak some Windows Settings to automate this but I don't know how easy or safe this is:
https://www.google.com/#q=windows+8.1+move+user+folder

Redirect a folder to a new location:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/redirect-folder-new-location

Relocation of the Users directory and the ProgramData directory to a drive other than the drive that contains the Windows directory:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/949977

! if there are large number/GB of files in current Users directory the above probably will take very long time - all the files will be copied from C: to D: (and then deleted on C: - which is the way 'move' works between different drives/partitions)

"Don't move your Windows user profiles folder to another drive":
http://www.zdnet.com/article/dont-move-your-windows-user-profiles-folder-to-another-drive/


If you already "enlarged the program volume" (so you know how to do that without losing data) maybe it's best to do that again if needed instead of Windows "Redirect a folder"
 
635) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange Memory Anomaly Caused by BOINC Monitor Gadget -(modified by request)- (Message 1681613)
Posted 20 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... Processes tab. Where you can enabled various memory options for programs & sort by the size.

Uh oh, I forget that only a few columns are shown by default
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/what-task-manager-memory-columns-mean#1TC=windows-7

636) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange Memory Anomaly Caused by BOINC Monitor Gadget -(modified by request)- (Message 1681607)
Posted 20 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Obviously you did not understand what I was saying in my post

You said the same as now: "since I updated to the latest version of BOINC ... abnormally larger amount of RAM is being used initially"

This statement I didn't / don't believe.
If BOINC was causing this you would easy see it is the culprit - as the size of BOINC / projects processes are visible and will be big (but you didn't say you see this)
BOINC is not some hidden system process.

It have to be some process or driver that uses "abnormally larger amount of RAM initially"
I really don't know how to check the RAM used by drivers

Do you see all the processes? (and in which programs?)

E.g. many Services run in svchost.exe ("Generic Host Process for Win32 Services")
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/what-is-svchost-exe#1TC=windows-7
637) Questions and Answers : Windows : Not 100% even though number of tasks per core (Message 1681465)
Posted 19 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Which 'limits'?
And where you "tried setting" them?
And why "to 0"?
638) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange Memory Anomaly Caused by BOINC Monitor Gadget -(modified by request)- (Message 1681151)
Posted 18 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If anyone has any ideas about this "problem" ...

'Problem':
You see 50% of memory (4 GB) is used when Windows starts?
Later (minutes?) the used RAM is less (35%)

Your 'Solution':
You think that RAM chips may be bad? (Why??)


If you find it strange that your RAM is used and then freed:
It's obvious that some program uses RAM at start.
I guess it is some Antivirus (making startup scan)

Check which process uses RAM
("Show processes from all users" - most probably will be process from the 'User': 'SYSTEM')
 
639) Questions and Answers : Preferences : work units (Message 1680722)
Posted 17 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Mine says ...

Where?
640) Message boards : Number crunching : NV GPU - AP bench test run (e.g. @ GT730) (Message 1679950)
Posted 15 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I chose the GT730 in GPU-Z and looked to 'GPU Load'. The 2nd and 3rd try the GT730 was loaded.
At the 1st try I didn't looked to the Intel iGPU

Use SIV instead - it shows all GPUs in the main window, no need to choose
http://rh-software.com/

Direct:
http://rh-software.com/downloads/siv.zip

If 'Version 5.00' do not work use older:
http://rh-software.com/index_arc.html

'Version 5.00' may not work because of:
"Migrated from the SHA-1 to SHA-2 code signing. This has no real impact on most systems, but to use SIV V5 on W7 you need KB3033929 installed and on Vista x64 to disable Driver Signature Verification."
641) Message boards : Number crunching : NV GPU - AP bench test run (e.g. @ GT730) (Message 1679939)
Posted 15 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If I would like to execute both simultaneously,
I could make a .bat file?
How should look it?

Just like this in a .bat file (?) :
"C:\bla\bla\bench01\APbench211.cmd"
"C:\bla\bla\bench02\APbench211.cmd"

... and both bench test runs start simultaneously?

Not exactly, use "Start CMD /C ":
(but in fact a few seconds difference between starts don't matter so manual start is OK)

Put the file in:
C:\bla\bla\


@Echo OFF

CD bench01
Start CMD /C "APbench211.cmd"
CD ..

CD bench02
Start CMD /C "APbench211.cmd"
CD ..
 
642) Message boards : Number crunching : Crunshing suspended when computer's running on battery (Message 1679924)
Posted 15 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... but I'm not able to uncheck the correct box. Any ideas?

To be able to check/uncheck anything - use 'Edit preferences' at the bottom of page.
643) Message boards : Number crunching : Crunshing suspended when computer's running on battery (Message 1679923)
Posted 15 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You can do it Locally from the BOINC ...

But mind this will 'freeze' the Preferences to Local (until you use [Clear] button):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77325&postid=1679909#1679909
644) Message boards : Number crunching : Intel® iGPU AP bench test run (e.g. @ J1900) (Message 1679922)
Posted 15 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
In ap_cmdline_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_Intel.txt: -cpu_lock -instances_per_device 1
in ap_cmdline_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_NV.txt: -cpu_lock -instances_per_device 3

The same result in Task-Manager:
1 Intel iGPU app at Core#0
1 NV GPU app at Core#0 and 1 NV GPU app at Core#1

I think Raistmer means -instances_per_device 3 for both apps

You can just set (for both apps) -instances_per_device 8
-instances_per_device don't control how many apps (.EXEs) are started
It only tells the already started apps (started by BOINC, or by (several) benchmark tests) to really 'work' (use the GPU to compute and not wait for it to become free)
645) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Old account credit (Message 1679913)
Posted 15 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
Do you still have your old computers?
On their HDDs there is info ('authenticator') which can be used instead of email address and password:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/weak_auth.php
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/get_passwd.php
 
646) Questions and Answers : Preferences : work units (Message 1679909)
Posted 15 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Probably you set the web Computing preferences

What are the values for:
Store at least XX days of work
Store up to an additional XX days of work

But (as written at the top):
These settings apply to all computers using this account except:
* computers where you have set preferences locally using the BOINC Manager


Read the top 'Note' on: Local preferences
* Settings override the same preferences set on the project's web page preferences.

If you ever clicked [OK] in Local preferences - they are in effect.

(They ALL are in effect, not only the values you eventually changed.
And there is [Clear] button which deletes global_prefs_override.xml
If you decide to use [Clear] button - never use [OK] again to "close" the dialog, use [Cancel] or <Esc>
)
647) Questions and Answers : Web site : Submit Profile (Message 1679572)
Posted 14 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Which browser?
I guess there is some incompatibility with your browser or your extensions/add-ons
If "screen block" means tab or browser hangs - try to disable your extensions or use another browser.

The following tests are in:
Slimjet Browser Portable 3.1.6.0 (Chromium 40.0.2214.93)
http://www.slimjet.com/en/

http://www.slimjet.com/en/dlpage.php
http://www.slimjet.com/release/archive/


For me when I click on "I'm not a robot" there are 3 variants (which change from time to time)
pictures, text, or just the click 'solves' it:





https://support.google.com/recaptcha#6081880
 
648) Questions and Answers : Web site : Submit Profile (Message 1679197)
Posted 13 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What means "doesn't work"? (in much more words)
649) Message boards : Number crunching : Balancing CPU and GPU Downloads – How? (Message 1678762)
Posted 12 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
That computer is on another account!
Computer 7535648 Owner KLiK http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=9989917

Compared to the account you're posting from here: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=9989358
(E.g. Computer 7422247 Owner KLiK http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=9989358)

...so anything you do under this account won't affect that computer.

probably is sthg to do with BOINC-BAM & SETi@home accounts not being joined...

how to correct that? :/

SETi@home accounts can Not 'be joined' (can Not be merged)
Choose one of the accounts and use it for all computers.
650) Message boards : Number crunching : NV GPU - AP bench test run (e.g. @ GT730) (Message 1678759)
Posted 12 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Which tool & test task I must use for to let run SETI (MB) bench test run (simultaneously) on NV (GT730) GPU?

I think:

MBbench 2.10
http://lunatics.kwsn.info/index.php?module=Downloads;sa=dlview;id=387

V7 MB test WUs 1 - WUs adapted for V7 testing (PG set)
http://lunatics.kwsn.info/index.php?module=Downloads;sa=dlview;id=296


For apps - maybe compare:
Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda42.exe
Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda50.exe

One in:
...\MBbench210\MBbench\Science_apps\Reference\

and the other in:
...\MBbench210\MBbench\Science_apps\
 
651) Questions and Answers : Wish list : SETI@Home and AstroPulse for Android Lollipop (Message 1678754)
Posted 12 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You posted this question in 'Android Version Checking' ~2 months ago:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76729&postid=1653854#1653854

If they don't answer there I don't think they will answer here (I doubt they look here)
I guess they will release it when they have time to focus on that app
652) Message boards : Number crunching : NV GPU - AP bench test run (e.g. @ GT730) (Message 1678246)
Posted 11 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
BTW, it's possible to make a bench test run with AP app/task and SETI (MB) app/task simultaneously?

The same answer:
Maybe just run 2 bench tests simultaneously from 2 directories
(to load CPU you may run even more tests simultaneously or use BOINC to load CPU by 'mode noBS')
653) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD ATI Radeon HD 2300/2400/3200/4200 (RV610) (336MB) - SETI/AP possible? (Message 1678178)
Posted 11 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
EDIT: BOINC say 'driver: 1.4.344' installed.
What does this mean, is this the laptop manufacturer driver 'v8.635.0.0 Rev. B'?

BOINC 'say' the CAL version

http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet_full.htm

CAL 1.4.344 = Catalyst 9.7 = 2D Driver Ver 8.632.0.0000
so v8.635.0.0 should be about the same date 2009.07.xx

Test the new app with this driver before making the user to change drivers
- you know: old GPU 'feels' better with old driver

Prepare for the user benchmark package - ask him to run it and send you the results (the .txt file from ...\APbench\Testdatas\)


Your link for "Win7 x64 AMD GPU Driver" = Catalyst 14.12 will not work.

Last Catalyst for AMD Radeon HD 4000 Series / AMD Mobility Radeon HD 4000 Series seems to be:
Catalyst 13.9 (I don't know if it's good or not)
http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/legacy?product=legacy2&os=Windows%207%20-%2064
654) Questions and Answers : Web site : Valid Tasks not changing for nearly 24 Hours (Message 1678174)
Posted 11 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77102&postid=1677919#1677919
655) Message boards : Number crunching : NV GPU - AP bench test run (e.g. @ GT730) (Message 1678165)
Posted 11 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What or how I need to adjust something, that the bench test run run on the NV GPU and not again on the Intel iGPU?

AP7_xxxxxxxxxx.exe --device 0
AP7_xxxxxxxxxx.exe --device 1
(just test which device # will fit)

The above lines may be used in BenchCfg.txt
or --device # may be added in APbench211.cmd to:
set ref_app_args=
set sci_app_args=


How can I adjust the bench test run, that 2 bench test tasks are running simultaneously on the GT730?

Maybe just run 2 bench tests simultaneously from 2 directories and use for both
-instances_per_device 2
656) Message boards : Number crunching : New Linux rootkit leverages GPUs to hide (Message 1675565)
Posted 9 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I don't think this rootkit can travel from 'infected' GPU memory directly to another system's GPU memory.
It have to use the usual means of spreading (through CPU memory, disk/file, network) - e.g. by luring people to Download some file and run it.

So it's just a matter of adding signatures and/or heuristic to existing Antiviruses
(by normal means of signatures/modules update, no need for a new kind of Antivirus to detect just a normal file before it is run/at the moment it is written to disk)

But since Linux people don't think they need Antivirus ...
657) Message boards : Number crunching : Crunching apears to stop (Message 1675165)
Posted 8 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
I also read this:
"Acquiring high-resolution time stamps":
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dn553408%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

The most funny part ;) for me was:
How do I determine and validate that QPC works on my machine?
     You don't need to perform such checks.

  Sounds like:
Stormtrooper: Let me see your identification.
Ben Obi-Wan Kenobi: [with a small wave of his hand] You don't need to see his identification.
Stormtrooper: We don't need to see his identification.
Ben Obi-Wan Kenobi: These aren't the droids you're looking for.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076759/quotes


They also say:
Do I need to set the thread affinity to a single core to use QPC?
     No. ...

But the first user response at the end:
"
Is the performance counter monotonic (non-decreasing)?
Yes

Would be nice if the above was true, but it's not. I can't speak to the technical reasons why this happened in my application, but I found that in order to have monotonic behavior, the thread affinity had to be set. Specifically, the counter was monotonic on only a single CPU core, and affinity had to be set to deal with this. As I recall, this was in a Windows XP SP3 virtual machine running in VirtualBox. All four hyper-threaded cores on my Core i7 were available to the guest (i.e. 8 logical CPUs). Maybe the newer versions of Windows work around this; I don't know.

Many others have observed this behavior...

.NET Stopwatch class (based on QPC): http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1008345/system-diagnostics-stopwatch-returns-negative-numbers-in-elapsed-properties

Note it can be proven by decompiling/examining .NET 2.0 to 4.0 sources to see that MSFT themselves added a hack to protect against returning negative durations in their stopwatch class (see my answer in link above). So you can't say "yes" that the QPC function is monotonic when the NETFX programmers themselves coded to protect against that, and lots of devs observe that it's not.
"
 
658) Message boards : Number crunching : Crunching apears to stop (Message 1675117)
Posted 8 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
My 'bad tests' were on Windows 2000 (and didn't happen on the same machine under Windows 98) this may be related:

"Programs that use the QueryPerformanceCounter function may perform poorly in Windows Server 2000, in Windows Server 2003, and in Windows XP"
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/895980
659) Message boards : Number crunching : Crunching apears to stop (Message 1675096)
Posted 8 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
               sse1_ChirpData_ak 8215593.620413 0.00000  test
...
             sse1_ChirpData_ak8h 79256438.325382 0.00000  test
...
             v_vChirpData_x86_64 19813884.405080 0.01993  test
               sse1_ChirpData_ak 138697187.902061 0.00000  test

You have strange big numbers like in my tests:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75617&postid=1576490#1576490

Joe may be interested to see more tests (e.g. if you will see also strange big negative numbers):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75617&postid=1576847#1576847

I may guess "big negative numbers" are in fact "too big positive numbers"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2147483647#In_computing

OK, here example of your "big negative numbers":
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/result.php?resultid=18517750

And it results in:
"fpu_opt_ChirpData -79751928.307712 0.00000 choice"

There is also "very small negative number" which have to mean the counter was just 'a bit' over 2147483647
sse1_ChirpData_ak8e -0.000188 0.00000 test

I see some warnings about TSC/RDTSC in the 'Use' section here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Stamp_Counter

 
660) Message boards : Number crunching : Crunching apears to stop (Message 1675083)
Posted 8 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I am having problem with work units starting and then after days it is still at the same time and percentage done.
When I look at the graphics it shows choosing optimal functions

Read here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75617&postid=1571978#1571978

This is a long existing problem with 'Optimal function choices' test on AMD CPUs
- sometimes the test hangs, sometimes not. On some systems it hangs a lot, on some - never/rarely
(long existing = years = don't expect fix of the stock apps soon as "Someone have to figure out why it happens on some systems before a fix is proposed")


The only real cure is using apps which don't do 'Optimal function choices' (and are faster):
Optimised Applications - Installer v0.43a
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71867&postid=1596404#1596404


After about a week of this going ... I would rather have a fix than abort the work units.

No need to wait more than a few minutes - on your CPU 'choosing optimal functions' should finish in < 30 seconds.

And no need to abort -
just Suspend/Restart the task

(If you start using Optimised Applications there will be no need for Suspend/Restart as they will never hang)

But if you stay on stock/standard apps:
- You may need to do Suspend/Restart several times (it is unclear when the test passes and when it hangs).

Hang don't depend on task, it depend on (stock) app - so may happen for any CPU task.
This test is done before the app even looks at the task data.
But if the app goes past 'Optimal function choice' it will no more hang during computing
(unless the task is Restarted again - any Restart (e.g. from 77%, from any %) do again 'Optimal function choice')

Go for Optimised Applications and you are 'cured'
661) Message boards : Number crunching : Task Postponed? (Message 1675010)
Posted 8 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Can you help an user (Dave Lampkins) to understand/diagnose/fix similar (but not the same) problem:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77272

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 (4095MB) driver: 347.88
Windows 7 / BOINC 7.4.42
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7379623

'stock' "setiathome enhanced x41zc, Cuda 5.00"
"too many boinc_temporary_exit()s" because of:

uncaptured error before launch (find_pulse_kernel2<fft_n, numthreads/fft_n, 5, true><<<grid, block>>>(best_pulse_score, PulsePoTLen, AdvanceBy, y_offset, numdivs, firstP, lastP)), file c:/[Projects]/__Sources/sah_v7_opt/Xbranch/client/cuda/cudaAcc_pulsefind.cu, line 1505: unknown error
662) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GTX 970 problem (Message 1674999)
Posted 8 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
How would i drop the instances to 3?
I have never really setup anything in the past for seti, ...

Then don't worry about that - you very probably run only one instance on the GPU as is the default.

Check (Windows Task Manager, Process Explorer) how many SETI@home processes for CUDA run.
They have names like:
setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86__cuda50.exe
setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86__cuda42.exe


Error is:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7379623&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4131749131

Thread call stack limit is: 1k
uncaptured error before launch (find_pulse_kernel2<fft_n, numthreads/fft_n, 5, true><<<grid, block>>>(best_pulse_score, PulsePoTLen, AdvanceBy, y_offset, numdivs, firstP, lastP)), file c:/[Projects]/__Sources/sah_v7_opt/Xbranch/client/cuda/cudaAcc_pulsefind.cu, line 1505: unknown error
Exiting

... which causes "too many boinc_temporary_exit()s"


Post in Number Crunching with link to this thread for more Advanced answers
663) Message boards : Number crunching : Monster GPU Cruncher Build (Message 1673702)
Posted 4 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Partitions 'divide' the drive by cylinder - not by platter
http://www.snia.org/education/storage_networking_primer/stor_devices/data_structure

C: will be on the outer rim = will be fastest (so it's good to have the OS on C:)

I don't think you can feel/measure any difference in the speed of BOINC/apps from the speed of HDD, maybe even 10 years old 80 GB HDD will have enough speed for BOINC
Any difference will be < 1%


(Each disk inside the HDD have his own read/write heads.)

If the HDD have 6 read/write heads they all move together.
From the link above: "The multiple arms of a drive move together in lockstep, positioning the heads in the same relative location on all platters simultaneously"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_read-and-write_head
664) Message boards : Number crunching : Invalid, due to difference of opinion. (Message 1673313)
Posted 3 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Since both 'other' computers:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6158143&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6775319&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=

... have many 'Invalid' tasks and the 'Valid' GPU tasks have the same short 'Run time' of < 1 minute you can guess which result was OK ;)
665) Message boards : Number crunching : question record length and PhysiX driver (Message 1673310)
Posted 3 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
No, PhysX does not help crunching at all.

But to be clear - I don't think it have any bad effect either.

PhysX files (PhysXCore.dll) just stay on disk:
\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX\Engine\

... and are started (used) only if some program (demos, games) need/use PhysX

Many games calculate physical interactions but not all of them (maybe only 'a few') use NVIDIA PhysX library to do this job.
666) Message boards : Number crunching : Invalid, due to difference of opinion. (Message 1673304)
Posted 3 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If a WU get two different results ...

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1773860844

They look the same according to stderr_txt (Spike count: 3)

I may only guess that your result file (which is a different file than stderr.txt) had some garbage or was truncated (missing some lines/bytes at the end).

Result files have names like:
26no12ag.13645.20272.438086664198.12.68_1_0
667) Message boards : Number crunching : Cl file build failure (Message 1673300)
Posted 3 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Computer
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5501972

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti (2048MB) driver: 350.12
+
"Have been running AP 7.05"


Read:
"Problem with Nvidia driver version 350.12":

Solution 1) "Downgraded back to 347.88 and the problem went away"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77133

or Solution 2) Get new app
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77133&postid=1667597#1667597

or Solution 3) "revert to stock"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77133&postid=1669095#1669095
668) Message boards : Number crunching : 0 New Tasks for GPU work (Message 1673296)
Posted 3 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
crunching 4 at a time(0.25 Cuda setting).

For GeForce GT 730 ??

1 or 2 at a time should be max effective (total 'production'/day) for this GPU
669) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (97) Server Problems? (Message 1673285)
Posted 3 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
But I'd be happy to run a spot-check - I think you have my email address?

No, but I sent link in PM
670) Message boards : Number crunching : AstroPulse v7 v7.10 (opencl_nvidia_100) (Message 1672930)
Posted 2 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:

<cmdline>-use_sleep -unroll 16 -oclfft_plan 256 16 256 -ffa_block 16384 -ffa_block_fetch 8192 -tune 1 64 4 1 -tune 2 64 4 1 -hp</cmdline>


http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4121147489

Looking closer, I don't think my command line is being used at all :(

1) You obviously missed:
"Brent's problem is that although <cmdline> can be used within an app_config.xml it is only valid within an <app_version> section."
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77227&postid=1672063#1672063

Read:
app_config.xml


2) -oclFFT_plan
(-oclfft_plan may not be recognized - switches are case-sensitive unless Raistmer did some change to allow any case)

Read ReadMe_AstroPulse_OpenCL_NV.txt (or similar name) - copy switches from there.

3) Use 'cmdline.txt' files instead
(the exact name varies, Read the docs, look what .txt files are in SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\) )
671) Message boards : Number crunching : AstroPulse v7 v7.10 (opencl_nvidia_100) (Message 1672928)
Posted 2 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
[@ all: If app_config.xml file is in setiathome.berkeley.edu project folder or not, the *cmdline*.txt file work, or not?]

Of course - Yes
app_info.xml and app_config.xml are read only by BOINC, then BOINC passes any switches found in them to the app at the moment the app is started: app.exe -sw1 -sw2

*cmdline*.txt files are read only by (some) apps = it is read last = what is in *cmdline*.txt wins


The next time the AP GPU app start to crunch it will use this cmdline settings (either if you suspend BOINC (or maybe better close and start again BOINC .....

Just 'Snooze GPU' is OK
And probably check (Windows Task Manager, Process Explorer) that the GPU process/app exited before uncheck 'Snooze GPU'


Both following files are (should be) in the 'setiathome.berkeley.edu' folder [{BOINC Data directory} e.g. C:\boinc\program data\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu]
...
The following file is (should be) in the 'program data' folder [{BOINC Data directory} e.g. C:\boinc\program data]

Typos - I leave to you the (obvious) correction
672) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (97) Server Problems? (Message 1672922)
Posted 2 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
OK, here's a pretty rough estimate, based on what has passed through my machines.
...
The 'TOTAL' column is what I've posted in the data distribution thread, and hasn't changed at all since the start of 2015.

Do you think you need/want job_log_setiathome.berkeley.edu.txt files from other users?

I.e.
- Is the process of analyzing job_log files automated/easy enough (e.g. nearly the same human (your) effort to sum 20 files as is for 10)
- Do you think it will add any new info
673) Message boards : Number crunching : 0 New Tasks for GPU work (Message 1672919)
Posted 2 May 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You were given link to better/faster app in this post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77191&postid=1669000#1669000

I'm not sure which is better for your GeForce GT 730 (but any x41zc should be faster than x41g):
setiathome_x41zc_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu_cuda32.7z
setiathome_x41zc_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu_cuda60.7z
674) Message boards : Number crunching : Task Postponed? (Message 1671952)
Posted 30 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You can see that GPU downclocked (and after the reboot returned to 1228 MHz)
Kepler GPU current clockRate = 1228 MHz
Kepler GPU current clockRate = 405 MHz

Task was still making progress on 405 MHz (Restarted at 41.24 percent ... Restarted at 53.24 percent) so driver was probably OK

Downclock may be caused by too much Overclock, Overheating


NVIDIA say:

GTX 750 Ti GPU Engine Specs:
Base Clock (MHz) 1020
Boost Clock (MHz) 1085

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-750-ti/specifications
675) Message boards : Number crunching : Intel® iGPU AP bench test run (e.g. @ J1900) (Message 1671942)
Posted 30 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
OK, I did this:

Old string "ATI unknown":
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/show_host_detail.php?hostid=110
(at the moment of post I didn't still contacted the servers of Asteroids@home which is set to No New Tasks)

New string "ATI Radeon HD 6570 (NI TURKS) {ASUS EAH6570/DI/1GD3(LP)}"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4832843

The new string is long - I needed to overwrite also the next 2 strings (which are about low HD5xxx models)
Of course the new string ends with 00 byte

I found that [ ] should not be used in those strings - in BOINC log info is OK but the web page started to act strange (weird things after the name)
At first the new string was "ATI Radeon HD 6570 (NI TURKS) [ASUS EAH6570/DI/1GD3(LP)] " so the problem may be also the ending space


I used HxD - Freeware Hex Editor
http://mh-nexus.de/en/hxd/
676) Message boards : Number crunching : Intel® iGPU AP bench test run (e.g. @ J1900) (Message 1671043)
Posted 28 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I think there was a change in Windows 8 Task Manager that adjusts/accounts for the MHz changes of the CPU (I don't remember where I read this at the time)
I also don't know/remember which MHz is used - the current, the max/turbo, or the base.
But this 'adjustment' makes it show not what the user will expect.

E.g.:
http://superuser.com/questions/495699/windows-8-task-manager-shows-49-cpu-process-explorer-shows-100

So I also suggest using Process Explorer
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx
677) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Why don't all work units run using a GPU ? (Message 1671005)
Posted 28 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This WITHOUT switching to Lunatics 3rd party applications.

Why 'WITHOUT' is all-CAPS?
In fact the stock GPU apps used since v7 apps are from Lunatics
(but the CPU apps are not so are slower than Lunatics)

Look the 2 Screenshots here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75115&postid=1541308#1541308
678) Questions and Answers : Windows : Not 100% even though number of tasks per core (Message 1670936)
Posted 28 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... even though they bother say (0 means no restriction)

Where did you see this 'say'?

No mention of '0 means no restriction' for these 2 Settings on both web and Local preferences:
Computing preferences
Local preferences

679) Questions and Answers : Windows : I don't receive any new tasks (Message 1670931)
Posted 28 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Sometimes the answer from the server is lost so you may have 'lost tasks'
Didn't you already have those tasks as 'Resent lost task'?

You better see why there are 'Error while computing'
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7553930&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=

"couldn't start app: CreateProcess() failed - The system cannot find the file specified."

Check Antivirus logs - some Antiviruses are stupid and delete (or lock (deny access to)) BOINC / SETI@home files.
680) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (97) Server Problems? (Message 1670645)
Posted 27 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If someone still collects this type of errors - this 'Notice' shows at the top if you red-x any post:

Notice: Undefined variable: config in /disks/carolyn/b/home/boincadm/projects/sah/html/user/forum_report_post.php on line 64
681) Message boards : Number crunching : Updated OpenCL AstroPulse coming main (Message 1670522)
Posted 27 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I surmise it is safe now to go back and re-edit app_info and correct the version level at least since I don't have any AP tasks on board ...

Yes, in this case you can correct the version number.

And even if you had tasks it's easy to do it safe:
- Copy/Paste the entire <app_version> section
- Edit the Top copy to the new number (and leave the bottom copy unchanged)
682) Questions and Answers : Windows : More Computers, Less Credit :( (Message 1670266)
Posted 26 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
There was one day that I racked up 50k+ of credits

If you mean 'Best 10 days' they have to be called 'Worst 10 days' = Big credit after server problems.
E.g. AstroPulse had no validations for ~month and I have big peak on the graph (but this of course is not work done in one day as the graph imply)
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/0/user/detail/8647488/charts

Your max is 36,593
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/0/user/detail/10079899/bestxdays


... after a dead spot which was when I tore my computer down and came back online with 3.

This is the first time you say this.
Till now you expected us (other users) to go and look at every computer 'Created' date.
And even that is not enough - you may make changes to computer after 'Created' date.
This I mean by what/when/how you run your computers


I still stand on my assumption: no AstroPulse = 5-6x less credit

Go post in Number Crunching and have another opinion
683) Questions and Answers : Windows : More Computers, Less Credit :( (Message 1670255)
Posted 26 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm not really interested to dig into this 'credit problem' - you better know what/when/how you run your computers

These are your graphs - they are climbing now but there seems to be some almost idle period:
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/0/user/detail/10079899/charts

Compare with some of the top users - they also have fluctuations (depending e.g. on availability of tasks)
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/0/user/detail/3338287/charts
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/0/user/detail/259/charts
684) Message boards : Number crunching : BoincTasks Manager question (Message 1670199)
Posted 26 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Do you use flops in your app_info.xml file? I, yes.
This could be maybe the 'problem' that the combined line of CPU tasks show at culumn 'Time Left' in the 'Tasks' overview x4?

No, I never used flops.
This is normal (as programmed) to see in 'Tasks' tab raw sum.
I see the same (~ "x3" of "x2" depending on CPU) - obviously this is the total sum of all times as seen if you Double-Click the line.


I mean, I uninstall BoincTasks and all folders & files. Install BoincTasks new (the installation will not find old files, so the Manager start at 'default').
Maybe this would help to find the 'problem'?

No, this will not 'help' because what you see is normal.

I see the same (and consider it logic and normal)
Only on the Projects tab the values are adjusted for the number of tasks you run simultaneously and for "Adjust time to BOINC client run time"
Е.g. will show (2) for GPU tasks if you run 2 tasks per GPU
And probably will show (6) if you run 2 tasks per GPU on 3 GPUs (but I can't really know or test this)

P.S.
Just for info:
I never uninstalled BoincTasks so don't know if this removes all traces of it.

The 'hidden' parts (files, Registry) are at:

%APPDATA%\eFMer\BoincTasks\

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\eFMer\BoincTasks]
685) Questions and Answers : Windows : More Computers, Less Credit :( (Message 1670171)
Posted 26 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
When was that "I was netting around 15k-30k credit a day."?

Probably what you see is because of too few AstroPulse tasks lately.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html

AstroPulse tasks are especially effective on ATI AMD so when you GPUs do AstroPulse they will create much more credit per hour.

You can see how much "Avg. credit" have any of your computers here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=10079899
686) Message boards : Number crunching : Head scratcher_estimate clock on this (Message 1669224)
Posted 24 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Run time 3 hours 17 min 18 sec
CPU time 2 hours 42 min 49 sec

This really shows the CPU was busy with something - did you check the running programs/processes?
Do you use TThrottle with too low temperature set?
687) Questions and Answers : Getting started : How To Login Using HTTPS TLS 1.2 When Adding SETI Project in BOINC (Message 1669219)
Posted 24 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I think no, they tried but it was causing trouble for many:

"Problem with the SSL CA cert":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77139
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77139&postid=1666088#1666088
688) Questions and Answers : Wish list : SETI@Home ET-SAN Signal Arrival Alert Notification For Mobile Apps (Message 1669218)
Posted 24 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
"When SETI receives a confirmed extraterrestrial signal" you will hear this in all news all around the world
689) Message boards : Number crunching : BoincTasks Manager question (Message 1669057)
Posted 23 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Does this mean that you don't use the 'regulator' function, also not the cpu_ & gpu_cores settings?

I don't feel a need for <regulator> section on my computer


I enabled/checked the 'History'.
Then I saw in the 'Projects' overview, column 'Tasks' & 'Time Left' '~correct' values.

I had always the 'History' enabled (it was that way by default (?))
"'~correct' values" may be in fact correct as they also include the remaining time of the Running tasks.


I un-/ & checked the 'Adjust time to BOINC client run time' and saw the same result, that the 'Time Left' in the 'Tasks' overview still show x4.
Maybe BOINC need to download new project tasks, and after some time the value is correct then later?

You may ask Fred to come here (in this thread) and answer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=8906489

But I think that on Tasks tab the sum is always unadjusted for the number of cores

"Adjust time to BOINC client run time
When checked, times in the project tab, deadline graph and gadget, will be adjusted to the computer run time.
To check the run time, right click on the computer in the computers tab.
E.g. if the computer runs 50 percent, the time changes from 1 to 2 days."
http://www.efmer.eu/boinc/boinc_tasks/manual_settings.html
http://efmer.com/b/boinctasks_settings
 
690) Message boards : Number crunching : overheating (Message 1669024)
Posted 23 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
In fact ABIT BP6 uses unofficial methods to allow 2 CPUs to work.
I don't know what methods but "Intel never intended the Celeron to be able to operate in SMP"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABIT_BP6
(I remember reading in magazines at the time about this motherboard and of course wanted to have it ;) But never had the money)

Do you have any problem to run other tools on that motherboard? (e.g. CPU-Z, SIV)
http://rh-software.com/

Do ABIT BP6 have 2 sensors on the motherboard to show the temperature of the 2 CPUs?
If so SIV should show both (and I'm interested to see the screenshot).

How old is the thermal compound (between CPU and the heat sink)? It may dry over time.
691) Message boards : Number crunching : BoincTasks Manager question (Message 1668316)
Posted 22 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Tab 'Projects' the column 'Tasks' is empty, column 'Time Left' is '-/-'.

Strange, mine is like this (at the bottom 2 lines are from second computer):




BTW. The config.xml is empty. I need to set there something?

No 'need' but I have this (For the meaning/help look in: \Program Files\eFMer\BoincTasks\examples\):
<config>
	<refresh>
		<downloads>	1709	</downloads>
		<uploads>	1307	</uploads>
		<refresh>	3571	</refresh>
		<refresh_asap>	1399	</refresh_asap>
	</refresh>
</config>
692) Message boards : Number crunching : BoincTasks Manager question (Message 1668309)
Posted 22 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You look in the Tasks tab where the sum is 'as is' (as if you manually add all the times in 'Time Left' column)

If you look in the Projects tab there the values are adjusted for the number of tasks you run simultaneously shown in ( )
Project		Account	...	Tasks		Time Left				Status			Tasks a day
SETI@home	BilBg	...	100 / 22	05d,04:21:03 (3) / 02d,00:28:21 (1)	Deferred for: 00:02:49	15/0


05d,04:21:03 (3) / 02d,00:28:21 (1)

(3) = 3 cores
(1) = 1 task/GPU on 1 GPU
693) Message boards : Number crunching : Best sub $200 video card for SETI? (Message 1667976)
Posted 21 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm very confused with all this... I was looking at the list of Top GPU models.

In short - don't look at that list

If you want more you may read (especially the post by Josef W. Segur):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75889
694) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Lunatics/NVIDA Software Updates (Message 1667879)
Posted 21 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
1) I don't see any NVIDIA errors on your task list but there is a thread:
"Problem with Nvidia driver version 350.12" (talks about errors with AstroPulse tasks on this driver)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77133


2) You use CUDA 3.2 app:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4098025878

I think faster for GeForce GTX 570 will be CUDA 4.2 app as they recommend:




... but you may also ask in Number Crunching
695) Message boards : Number crunching : overheating (Message 1667655)
Posted 20 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
As listed here: http://efmer.com/forum/index.php?topic=1218.0
TThrottle needs a CPU with internal sensor...

I don't know what 'Brent Norman - Canada' means by "I'm currently using TThrotle to limit CPU usage in my older computer, not by temp, but by CPU use"
Is this some really old computer or is it "AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+" which have internal sensor?

As fred say: "I've never got at BSOD reported"
I think TThrottle checks for minimum CPU family/model (by CPUID)
You may ask him if TThrottle checks CPUID to not try reading internal sensor on too old CPUs
Also ask if the BSOD may be because you have 2 physical CPUs


so that is P4 of newer processor! ;)

No, P4 have no temperature sensor, the list have to be the same as this:
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/supportlist.html
696) Message boards : Number crunching : Intel® iGPU AP bench test run (e.g. @ J1900) (Message 1667041)
Posted 18 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So, maybe -instances_per_device 2 will be needed in this case too. Check that.

@Dirk
To clarify: this doesn't mean you have to run 2 instances on one GPU

You may even use -instances_per_device 4 (just to 'reserve' counter for max 4 apps running)
- since BOINC starts the apps it will still start only 2 apps (one per GPU) unless you change this by app_info.xml / app_config.xml
697) Message boards : Number crunching : overheating (Message 1667034)
Posted 18 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Well, no I can't...'cause the CPU doesn't have CPU temp sensor, the TThrottle give BSOD on WinXP! :/

Which version of TThrottle?

TThrottle programmer is not at all so stupid to try to read from non-existing sensor, TThrottle checks first the CPU family/model
698) Message boards : Number crunching : Intel® iGPU AP bench test run (e.g. @ J1900) (Message 1666693)
Posted 18 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Code for -cpu_lock is probably the same in all Raistmer apps.
So any app will see (at start) which cores are already in use by other running apps (if they also use -cpu_lock) and choose the first unused core (if unused core exists).
699) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Old account with email hooking to new account with email (Message 1666687)
Posted 18 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This was asked so many times, you may read what was already explained:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76962
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74572
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74189

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74115
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73469
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71939

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70260
700) Message boards : Number crunching : Loading APU to the limit: performance considerations - ongoing research (Message 1666630)
Posted 18 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Just change .net to .info
http://lunatics.kwsn.info/1-discussion-forum/loading-apu-to-the-limit-performance-considerations.msg58456.html#msg58456
701) Message boards : Number crunching : overheating (Message 1666619)
Posted 18 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
TThrottle will not work with this CPU - it have no internal temperature sensor

but the BP6 does have a temp sensor...doesn't it work with MBO temps? :/

CPU and GPU sensor implementation is fairly standard.
Motherboard manufacturers on the other hand use (different) sensor chips as they see fit (so too many "standards")

So fewer number of programs use motherboard sensors (too much work for the programmers):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292&postid=987243#987243

You can still use 'Max CPU %' box to set it < 100 (and monitor the external/motherboard sensor temperature e.g. by SIV)





P.S.
Why use 'Max CPU %' box in TThrottle and not the similar in BOINC? Because TThrottle have better way to do that:
- BOINC pauses the entire process, TThrottle only the worker/computing thread
- BOINC 'quantum of time' is 1 s (CPU load graph is seesaw), TThrottle works on ms intervals (CPU load graph is smooth)
 
702) Message boards : Number crunching : Problem with the SSL CA cert (Message 1666139)
Posted 16 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
But could we have a version from current sources, built with current tools

A current version of what? OpenSSL?

No, Richard means a current version of BOINC (+ included current OpenSSL of course) that can:
- install on Windows Domain Controllers (now people are forced to install <= 5.10.45)
- allow BOINC to run as a service, and still detect/use GPUs on Windows XP (now people are forced to use <= 6.12.34)
I imagine this second can be unlocked for advanced users by some switch in cc_config.xml like <force_detect_gpu>
703) Message boards : Number crunching : Problem with the SSL CA cert (Message 1666075)
Posted 16 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
For the moment the admins have turned it back to HTTP since this now causes the troubles with older clients.

Question remains why some computers have/had no problem despite using "older clients"?
Does BOINC use (also) the root certificates installed in the OS?

My ca-bundle.crt begins with:

##
## $Id: ca-bundle.crt 11866 2007-01-15 21:39:43Z rwalton $
##
## ca-bundle.crt -- Bundle of CA Root Certificates
## Last Modified: Thu Mar 2 09:32:46 CET 2000
704) Message boards : Number crunching : overheating (Message 1666071)
Posted 16 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
TThrottle will not work with this CPU - it have no internal temperature sensor
705) Message boards : Number crunching : Problem with the SSL CA cert (Message 1665843)
Posted 16 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You may try to copy also ssleay32.dll , libeay32.dll

P.S.
On BOINC 6.10.58 / Windows XP:
I don't have any such Messages in stdoutdae.txt (search for "SSL " and "certificate")

What makes/forces BOINC on some computers to use SSL?
706) Message boards : Number crunching : overheating (Message 1665839)
Posted 16 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Check heatsinks/fans, clean dust, and try TThrottle to limit the temperature.

Just installed this version on WinXP computer...and it gives be BSOD with error on cputemperature.sys file...any clue about it?

Does anybody have similar problem? ;)

I use TThrottle 7.20 on Windows XP

And now I see:
"TThrottle 7.52 (Doesn't work with Xp)"
"TThrottle 7.30 (Last XP version)"
http://efmer.com/b/tthrottle_download_release
707) Questions and Answers : Getting started : May I add the Seti@Home logo to my Amateur Radio webpage? (Message 1665120)
Posted 13 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
From the HOME page under COMMUNITY there is "Pictures & music"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/misc.php

I prefer "The original SETI@home logo as a TIFF file (889 KB)"
But there are many other pictures to choose from.
708) Message boards : Number crunching : Error: Maximum disk usage exceeded (Message 1664190)
Posted 11 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Now my feeling is 'I gonna hit this hammer to my head' because those files were somehow important to BOINC....

I don't think so - BOINC itself creates only small files (init_data.xml , boinc_task_state.xml) in slots

These 'garbage' big files have to be leftover of some app become crazy
709) Message boards : Number crunching : Error: Maximum disk usage exceeded (Message 1664174)
Posted 11 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
For both tasks - exact the same "Peak disk usage 16,982.58 MB"

I suggest to check what is in 'slots' directory - there may be some 'garbage' big files in some of the slots


Thanks, Slot 3 had very big files. Deleted those, wait and see if that was problem.

Do you remember/record the filenames?
(for me it is interesting what created those big files)
710) Message boards : Number crunching : Error: Maximum disk usage exceeded (Message 1664169)
Posted 11 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
For both tasks - exact the same "Peak disk usage 16,982.58 MB"

I suggest to check what is in 'slots' directory - there may be some 'garbage' big files in some of the slots
711) Questions and Answers : Windows : Not 100% even though number of tasks per core (Message 1663276)
Posted 9 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
08/04/2015 21:49:07 | | Reading preferences override file

You use Local preferences - so check on "Processor usage" tab what is the value of "Use at most X % CPU time"
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Local_preferences#Processor_usage

Do you use TThrottle ?
(if you set too low temperature in TThrottle this may be the case)

On Windows Task Manager you may also show the 'Processes' tab
712) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Restart SETI@Home using old account (Message 1662589)
Posted 8 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Is it not "possible to write or speak to someone" because you have no way to proof you are the owner:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=86550
(found by "User search")

The name "William Headrick" do not identify the account (e.g. there are many "John Doe")

There are two ways to identify the account:
- by <authenticator> ("account key")

The following link will give info how to use it if you have it:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/weak_auth.php

You can find the old-account <authenticator> if you have access to some of yours old computers/HDDs/backup of BOINC Data directory
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?sort=rpc_time&rev=0&show_all=1&userid=86550


- by email / password pair

The email don't need to exist/be active
- try any email + password you may think of (the password is the one used for the SETI@home account, not for the email)
713) Message boards : News : Berkeley SETI scientists using new techniques in ET search (Message 1662579)
Posted 8 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Do you really think that anyone will read this stream of lowercase letters ...
714) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU driver version lists (Message 1662571)
Posted 8 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7451897

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7451897&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=

Simple - he installed Cuda 3.20 app
Which means he ("Simone[E.R.]") just click [Next] in Lunatics_Win64_v0.43a_setup using the default selection/choice

He should use CUDA 5.0 app
715) Message boards : Number crunching : Need some help or advice (Message 1662559)
Posted 8 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I hope this will be the last post in here.

No such luck ;)

Since you have two Windows installations it is unclear on which you did "system restore"
The Windows on HDD was OK according to info you provided so why do "system restore" on it?
So you did "system restore" on the SSD?
716) Message boards : Number crunching : Error when downloading!! Again (/&%¤#¤%&/( (Message 1661736)
Posted 5 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Because I've just looked at all my jobs done for SETI and only 1 !! Only 1 was done by a GPU/Linux and that was on 23 Mar 2014, 23:03:40 UTC !! I'm so g.. d... disappointed.

You look at the wrong place - task lists are purged (info about validated tasks 'vanish' from the web page ~day after validation)

Application details for host 7247578
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=7247578

AstroPulse v7 7.04 x86_64-pc-linux-gnu (opencl_nvidia_100):
"Number of tasks completed 90"

This means at least 90 AstroPulse v7 tasks are done by NVIDIA GPU on Linux
(not all "Completed and validated" tasks are counted on "Number of tasks completed" value)


... Or implement those apps from e.g. lunatics ...

This is where you can read how Linux users successfully run NVIDIA CUDA SETI@home app on Linux (Download link - at the (jason_gee) post linked):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77018&postid=1660631#1660631

Ask there if you need info on how to 'install' preserving CPU tasks
717) Questions and Answers : Preferences : credits and teams (Message 1661732)
Posted 5 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Patience for both.

1) Which graph? On external site? They update ~day after anything happens on any project.
2) Do some tasks, wait for them to validate - then you'll have a Credit/RAC
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7538887
718) Message boards : Number crunching : Need some help or advice (Message 1661504)
Posted 4 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I changed my reboot order and gave it a try. System went to the log on screen and mouse was still froze.

So in "boot order" Seagate HDD is the first boot device? (at the time when the SSD was still in the computer)
(for me seems the broken Windows/driver is on the SSD and SSD was still earlier in boot sequence than HDD)
719) Message boards : Number crunching : Slot Directory errors on new system (Message 1661249)
Posted 3 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Can you manually check in:
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\slots\

... how many/which of the 'slots' (0 1 2 ... 199) are empty (no files inside)?
720) Message boards : Number crunching : CUDA works on ATI AMD (1st of April) (Message 1661243)
Posted 3 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
(post to edit the title - (1st of April))

The first post combines real thing ("GPU Ocelot") with some hoax on my part.

I didn't used GPU Ocelot in any way, I don't have CUDA app that works on ATI AMD GPU or anything similar.


I really used fake app_info.xml to kill some bad WUs on Asteroids@home
- the project have problem in last weeks with 99% failed downloads, the admin seems to wait for all the 'bad WUs' to fail and then add them again using different input file names:
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/forum_thread.php?id=424&postid=4212#4212

I reached CPU "Max tasks per day" (~300 failed downloads) so I created fake GPU section in app_info.xml similar to the posted (but using the same CPU .exe <file_name>)
That is why I have "(anonymous platform, ATI GPU)" at "Application details"
All Asteroids@home tasks (~50) sent to the GPU failed during Download as expected (because the WU files just don't exist on the server)

(I guess I did this just for fun, to experiment what is possible. E.g. I wasn't able to fake <plan_class>nci</plan_class>)
 
721) Message boards : News : SETI@home World Visualization (Message 1661206)
Posted 3 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
...
After all, it is just an image being displayed on the screen.

A background image with Javascripts to overlay recent data...
                                                                   Joe

Yes, there are ~10 .js files used like this:
<script src="./js/transfer.js"></script>

My wild guess - native (machine, CPU) code will be >100 times faster/lighter

Some of the .js are code:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/kiosk/js/setiTraffic.js

Some are big tables:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/kiosk/js/in-locs.js
722) Message boards : News : False News Report (Message 1661192)
Posted 3 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Yes, and the site has 'orange' Reputation on WOT with "Misleading claims":
https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/worldnewsdailyreport.com

"WOT is a free add-on for your browser - Add WOT to your browser to protect yourself from online threats":
https://www.mywot.com/
723) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics_x41g_linux64_cuda32.7z (Message 1660392)
Posted 1 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4066815312

6 hours for CUDA ?:
Run time 6 hours 20 min 29 sec
CPU time 6 hours 20 min 29 sec

It seems to be running on CPU (?) (at least some tasks)
724) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics_x41g_linux64_cuda32.7z (Message 1660377)
Posted 1 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The file I downloaded from kwsn is "Lunatics_x41g_linux64_cuda32_v7.7z". I'm not sure, i.e. don't remember, the exact download path at kwsn.

Probably you mean this:
http://www.arkayn.us/forum/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=cat5
http://www.arkayn.us/forum/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item24

efd9f0d9e0e16438ac52c6c9d5062e0e *Lunatics_x41g_linux64_cuda32_v7.7z


The difference from this:
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=1
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;sa=dlview;id=311

13eec4052ca08ebe29bf5cae82a944fb *Lunatics_x41g_linux64_cuda32.7z

... are only the included app_info.xml files and for CPU setiathome_7.01_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu


The small work units, about 23K GFLOPS, complete in about 15 minutes. Larger ones take proportionately longer.

Yes, his "Run time 2 hours 51 min" looks big


Third-
I have, on occasion, encountered the "exited with zero status but no finished file" condition. In my case the trouble was a lost ISP internet connection. In that circumstance completed tasks are unable to upload; they keep trying, however, and timing out. During the timeout delay the "heartbeat" ping (from boincmgr?) to a running task is not answered and eventually boincmgr terminates the task. Which generates another "completed" task unable to upload, which generates more timeouts, which (almost) guarantees any running tasks will fail. It's an avalanch.

'Almost' correct but:
- "No heartbeat from client for 30 sec - exiting" (stderr_txt) = "exited with zero status but no finished file" (stdoutdae.txt) = app exit by its own, not "eventually boincmgr terminates the task"
- this does not mean the task is terminated/killed - the tasks don't fail, they are just restarted from checkpoints
- boincmgr is only a GUI, all real management is done by boinc (if that's the name on Linux, it is boinc.exe on Windows)
 
725) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics_x41g_linux64_cuda32.7z (Message 1660350)
Posted 1 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
On Windows all those files are in the same directory as the BOINC executables
I.e. all the following is in the same directory:
libcurl.dll
libeay32.dll
ssleay32.dll
zlib1.dll
...
boinc.exe
boinccmd.exe
boincmgr.exe
...

I don't know if the same have to be on Linux (i.e. where the BOINC executable searches first for Libraries)
726) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics_x41g_linux64_cuda32.7z (Message 1660341)
Posted 1 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What is in stderr.txt (in 'slots' directory) (not stdoutdae.txt which is written by BOINC but stderr.txt which is written by the app)
727) Message boards : Number crunching : Slot Directory errors on new system (Message 1660340)
Posted 1 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This means you had many task started which go then to 'Waiting to run'

boinctray.exe process have to run if you want BOINC to detect when the computer is idle
728) Message boards : Number crunching : CUDA works on ATI AMD (1st of April) (Message 1660286)
Posted 1 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
Asteroids@home don't have any app for ATI AMD GPUs, only for NVIDIA CUDA (and no checkbox for 'Use ATI GPU'):
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/apps.php

So I found this:
http://code.google.com/p/gpuocelot/

"Ocelot is a modular dynamic compilation framework for heterogeneous system, providing various backend targets for CUDA programs and analysis modules for the PTX virtual instruction set.
Ocelot currently allows CUDA programs to be executed on NVIDIA GPUs, AMD GPUs, and x86-CPUs at full speed without recompilation"


The app_info.xml
<app_info>
    <app>
        <name>period_search</name>
        <user_friendly_name>Period Search Application</user_friendly_name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>period_search_10210_windows_intelx86__sse3.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>period_search_10112_windows_intelx86__cuda55.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>period_search</app_name>
        <version_num>10210</version_num>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>period_search_10210_windows_intelx86__sse3.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>period_search</app_name>
        <version_num>10112</version_num>
        <plan_class>cuda55</plan_class>
        <coproc>
            <type>ATI</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>period_search_10112_windows_intelx86__cuda55.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
</app_info>


You can see it is shown as "Period Search Application (anonymous platform, ATI GPU)" at the bottom of "Application details for host 110":
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/host_app_versions.php?hostid=110

(Asteroids@home have Download problems now so 'Consecutive valid tasks' is too low)
 
729) Message boards : Number crunching : Need some help or advice (Message 1660241)
Posted 1 Apr 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I was in F8 at the time using that PO:st10000dm003-9yn162 (953869mm) selection that I had posted after that.

This must be:
P0: ST1000DM003
P0 = (maybe) Port 0 (Port Zero)

Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

* How many HDDs are in that computer?
* What is shown on the other lines on the BIOS boot menu?

This selection should be equal to "If I do a normal reboot and let windows start up normally"
if you have only one HDD and the boot order in the BIOS is set to start from it as first 'try'
Something like "Primary boot device: P0: ST1000DM003" set in BIOS

* Can you check in your BIOS setup for something like "Boot order" and what is listed/chosen?

Also: during "normal reboot" try to 'make some workout' of the keyboard/mouse:
- repeatedly hit CapsLock and look when the LED light stops responding to this
- move the mouse all the time till you see the Windows logon screen


The monitor is connected with DVI as was the last one.

If you have VGA port and cable and want to try them - do it when the computer and monitor are completely OFF - even disconnect the mains/power cables to the wall socket.
VGA port is NOT hot-swappable
http://superuser.com/questions/112309/is-vga-port-hot-pluggable


As you can tell I am no software or hardware expert.
As stated before my keyboard is Ps/2. The mouse is USB I have tried it in every USB port this Antec 920 case has. Plus The mouse works on the twin computer. So the mouse is good.

We know already "the mouse is good"
But if USB mouse is connected some driver loads to support it. (and this appear to be maybe broken)
So I would try to boot with No USB devices connected (including NO mouse on USB - just boot without mouse)


P.S.
You did't answer important (I think) questions:

I don't know if you already tell us this info:
- do you have any other USB device connected (e.g. USB hub, USB Bluetooth radio, ...)
- when mouse and keyboard do not respond (e.g. NumLock not changing) - Do you see HDD LED blinking (i.e. is the OS working or hang)
730) Message boards : Number crunching : Need some help or advice (Message 1659749)
Posted 31 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I also wonder what happens if only the PS/2 keyboard is connected, no any USB device connected.

Since the problem started after changing the monitor:
- What if another monitor is used
- Or monitor is connected to other port - e.g. from DVI change it to VGA cable
731) Message boards : Number crunching : Need some help or advice (Message 1659746)
Posted 31 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If needed - go in 'Windows Safe Mode' and try them:
(NONE of them needs install - just extract .zip and run .exe) 

Make that "safe mode with networking" - else he won't be able to download them from the web.

The standard workround - download first, then switch to safe mode for running them - can't be used in this case, because he can't use standard mode for the the download. But the alternative 'sneakernet' could be used if he has a second machine to do the download, and a USB memory stick or a CD burner.

He obviously can post here. So what (computer, phone, tablet, ...) he uses to post?
Will USB memory stick be recognized in Safe Mode?
732) Message boards : Number crunching : Need some help or advice (Message 1659741)
Posted 31 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... and do a reformat on ther hard drive.

??? Only because of some bad driver?

You have several programs to check what Auto-starts and disable what you want.
If you are ready to reformat you may play with them freely without fear to break something.

If needed - go in 'Windows Safe Mode' and try them:
! On your computer F8 seem to have two purposes:
- to invoke BIOS boot menu
- to invoke Windows menu of choices for Safe Mode

= you may guess by yourself when to start hitting F8 - it is just after BIOS messages disappear

NONE of the following needs install - just extract .zip and run .exe

Autoruns - just uncheck what you don't want to start, then restart Windows normally to see the effect
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902.aspx

ServiWin - "ServiWin allows you to easily stop, start, restart, pause, and continue service or driver ..."
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/serviwin.html

These are more like additions as they mostly duplicate the info from the 2 previous:
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/what_run_in_startup.html
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/driverview.html

(these are enough for now to play with ;) )

If you think that you have virus - go in 'Windows Safe Mode with Networking' (if normal mode still is not possible), start IE and use:
ESET :: FREE Online Virus Scan
http://www.eset.com/us/online-scanner/

***

I don't know if you already tell us this info:
- do you have any other USB device connected (e.g. USB hub, USB Bluetooth radio, ...)
- when mouse and keyboard do not respond (e.g. NumLock not changing) - Do you see HDD LED blinking (i.e. is the OS working or hang)
 
733) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics_x41g_linux64_cuda32.7z (Message 1659604)
Posted 31 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
I think to get CUDA work remove the line:
<platform>x86_64-pc-linux-gnu</platform>

(as you may know - the tasks are the same for all apps)

I really don't know if the server will send work to the combination of:
<platform>x86_64-pc-linux-gnu</platform>
<plan_class>cuda50</plan_class>

... since there is no stock CUDA on Linux:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php


You also don't need the following part as you have another CPU app
        <file_info>
                <name>setiathome_7.01_i686-pc-linux-gnu</name>
                <executable/>
        </file_info>
        <app_version>
                <app_name>setiathome_v7</app_name>
                <version_num>701</version_num>
                <platform>x86_64-pc-linux-gnu</platform>
                <avg_ncpus>1.000000</avg_ncpus>
                <max_ncpus>1.000000</max_ncpus>
                <file_ref>
                        <file_name>setiathome_7.01_i686-pc-linux-gnu</file_name>
                        <main_program/>
                </file_ref>
        </app_version>


But for some reason you have lines:
Restarting task XXXXXXXXXXXX using setiathome_v7 version 701 in slot Y

... so if you have on board tasks 'branded' for SETI@home v7 7.01
wait for them to finish and report
Else they will vanish if you remove this section.
 
734) Message boards : Number crunching : Not using GPU? (Message 1659588)
Posted 31 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Ok I went for it and it just installed the AMD APP SDK Runtime which I'd already chosen on the main install.

I just wanted to check that your Catalyst had OpenCL in it, and you now confirm that you checked to install it the first time.
But the GPU is old and this OpenCL.msi was installed just for the CPU OpenCL

You can test CPU OpenCL and GPU OpenCL (if it exists) by:
GPU Caps Viewer
http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/


It looked like I had messed up my BOINC with one of the Lunatics files so I deleted my app_info.xml, reset the project and restarted BOINC.
Eventlog is still seeing the GPU ok but no longer has the error I posted earlier.

You did't "messed up BOINC" by Lunatics - it only changes files in SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)
You only 'installed' apps and app_info.xml which need OpenCL (<plan_class>opencl_ati_sah</plan_class> , <plan_class>opencl_ati_100</plan_class> ...)

The GPU do not support OpenCL so the driver for GPU OpenCL was not installed
= BOINC do not see GPU OpenCL driver but 'need it' per your app_info.xml

i.e. you can use app_info.xml - just don't install OpenCL apps (but even if they are there - they will not be used)


Event viewer shows it is asking for CPU and ATI GPU work

Yes, BOINC is in a hope that the project may have CAL ATI app but SETI@home currently do not have any.
In the past (on v6 of apps) there was CAL ATI AstroPulse app but it was too slow and make errors (on some GPU/drivers combo) so was (I think) not updated for v7 apps

Other projects may have CAL ATI apps
 
735) Questions and Answers : Windows : Graphic display on screen saver (Message 1659517)
Posted 30 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
bonjour,

comment as tu réussi à regler le problème?

j'ai une gt650m de chez nvidia ( en plus de l intel graphics) et je n'y arrive pas!

merci!

hello,

How did you manage to settle the problem?

I have a nvidia gt650m home (in addition to the Intel graphics) and I can not!

thank you!

I can only guess that he did what I say here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76674&postid=1638111#1638111

I.e. connected the monitor to ATI AMD Radeon - in your case to NVIDIA

Or, if both GPUs exit on the same physical port/output (I think it's possible on some laptops) - selected some Option to prefer/use-only the Radeon
This Option probably have to be in some proprietary software that comes from the laptop vendor.


If you tell exactly the model of your laptop some of us may find (on Google) how to switch/select which GPU sends signal to the physical port/output

This is how it is on Mac OS X
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202053
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202043

https://www.google.com/#q=how+to+switch+off+automatic+graphics+switching

***

E.g. using this search:
https://www.google.com/#q=how+to+switch+off+automatic+graphics+switching+windows+7

... gives:
http://superuser.com/questions/298383/how-to-stop-switchable-graphics-from-switching-to-high-power-gpu-when-charging-t
https://ucdavistechtalk.wordpress.com/2012/05/29/how-to-switch-between-intel-graphics-and-nvidia-with-optimus/
http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/laptop/f/3519/t/19499399
...

P.S.
Now if you find your solution don't say just "That's ok, problem solved :)"
Instead tell in sufficient detail "How did you manage to settle the problem?"
 
736) Message boards : Number crunching : Not using GPU? (Message 1659396)
Posted 30 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Maybe they can be used on some other project which have CAL ATI apps but here you need OpenCL and those GPUs don't support it

The HD 4200 may have some rudimentary/beta OpenCL but I doubt you will be able to enable/use it.

Does the driver/Catalyst you installed have OpenCL.msi in it?
During the Catalyst installation it is uncompressed in a similar directory:
D:\ATI\Support\11-12_xp32_dd_ccc_ocl\Packages\Apps\OpenCL\

Edit:
Well it seems Radeon HD 4200 is "Mobility Radeon" based on older chip (so will not have OpenCL)
"ATI Radeon HD 4200
The AMD ATI (Mobility) Radeon HD 4200 is an onboard (shared Memory) graphics chip (on the RS880M chipset). It is based on the HD 3400 graphics core"
http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Radeon-HD-4200.20493.0.html
737) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : After updating to the latest Omega driver, only one GPU core is doing work (Message 1659252)
Posted 30 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Your first post show 3 times "(ignored by config)"
That is why Ageless asked to check cc_config.xml

At that time the "(ignored by config)" lines imply that you have in cc_config.xml some lines to:
<ignore_ati_dev>N</ignore_ati_dev>
     ignore (don't use) a specific ATI GPU. You can ignore more than one.


But yes, if the GPUs/video cards of the same vendor are not reported as identical (in your case OpenCL 2.0 vs 1.2 and 4096MB vs 3072MB)
you need <use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>

Maybe the current BOINC version say "(ignored by config)" even if that means the default of <use_all_gpus>0</use_all_gpus> is used.
(If no cc_config.xml exist BOINC acts using defaults)
738) Message boards : Number crunching : Need some help or advice (Message 1658939)
Posted 29 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
ST10000DM003 is the model of your HDD (It probably have one less 0: ST1000DM003):
https://www.google.com/#q=ST10000DM003

How did you see such line by F8 I don't know

HDD (and DVD, FDD, USB flash) will appear I think only on the boot menu of BIOS

BIOS boot menu can be invoked by different keys on different motherboards.
It seems that on some (Asus) motherboards the key is F8
https://craftedflash.com/info/how-boot-computer-from-usb-flash-drive


So maybe you did't go in the Windows 'Safe Mode' menu.

But choosing in BIOS boot menu your HDD should not change anything...
739) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Resolution changes while my PC is working. (Message 1658916)
Posted 29 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
It is so unclear what he says but I think he is making 'observations' and 'discoveries' on the screensaver ;)

At first I was thinking he talks about 'Resolution' of the monitor but for some reason talks about Hz (Vertical synchronization) and not about pixels.

He may want to read explanations and links in the thread which is just next to this:
"I have a strange pulsin signal on my graph":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76985
 
740) Message boards : Number crunching : Need some help or advice (Message 1658370)
Posted 28 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I wish I could go have a look see. Now that computer is back at the log in screen. The mouse is frozen and the keyboard wont do a thing.

Try the following (which may work but not always)

Boot normally but press and hold Shift key until Windows is fully loaded.
This will inhibit loading of some auto-starting programs but not all.
741) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC 7.4.42 Windows_x86_64 Keeps Shutting Itself Down Under Windows 8.1 (Message 1658338)
Posted 28 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
found that \programdata was listed as being "read-only" and "hidden". Don't know what changed the permission for that directory

Nothing 'changed the permission', Windows protects ProgramData from dumb users by making it "hidden". Also if you try to make/remove (sub)directory Windows will (I can't check but I think it will) ask "do you really want this" if UAC enabled.
If you go in any of sub-directories you can freely make changes (I think)

Permissions on ProgramData do not matter for BOINC - instead check \ProgramData\BOINC

This is the first time I hear about IObit Malware Fighter
Since they claim "Detect and Remove Infections and New Hidden Threats" it may be too aggressive.
BOINC downloads .exe files from Internet and then starts them - unaware AV products may think this is Trojan
Can you configure your AV products to Ask before any 'disinfection' action?


included both \program\boinc and \programdata in the exclude list

Do you mean the entire ProgramData or \ProgramData\BOINC
742) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC 7.4.42 Windows_x86_64 Keeps Shutting Itself Down Under Windows 8.1 (Message 1657947)
Posted 27 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
There are the normal entries in the stdoutdae.txt file. Nowhere does it say "[---]Exiting" or is there a line showing an error.

Then this is Not normal - if BOINC do an Exit it will say so:

26-Mar-2015 09:37:56 [SETI@home] Message from server: This computer has reached a limit on tasks in progress
[03/26/15 09:41:55] TRACE [2052]: ***** Console Event Detected *****

[03/26/15 09:41:55] TRACE [2052]: Event: CTRL-LOGOFF Event

26-Mar-2015 09:41:55 [---] Exit requested by user
26-Mar-2015 09:42:17 [---] Starting BOINC client version 6.10.58 for windows_intelx86

***

If the computer hangs (during game, BOINC was in 'Snooze') and I need to press Reset - then there is NO note of the Exit:

26-Mar-2015 13:12:28 [WUProp@Home] Not reporting or requesting tasks
26-Mar-2015 13:12:29 [WUProp@Home] Scheduler request completed
26-Mar-2015 13:34:59 [---] Starting BOINC client version 6.10.58 for windows_intelx86

***

Something seems to kill BOINC or it crashes.
Check also Antivirus logs.


P.S.
It's best to post the exact lines from the files then to explain what they say.
743) Message boards : Number crunching : Nvidia Tesla M2090 assitance (Message 1657900)
Posted 27 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Is this what you try:
TESLA DRIVER 341.44
http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/82964/en-us

I don't know if this driver can co-exist with the
GEFORCE 341.44 DRIVER
http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/82467/en-us
744) Questions and Answers : Windows : Endless Computation error messages (Message 1657806)
Posted 27 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Link to only one task will vanish, so "Error tasks for computer 7197058":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7197058&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=

I don't know if this is caused by the Intel iGPU driver but many of those drivers seem to have issues.
(I myself don't have Intel iGPU)

You may read (about good and bad Intel iGPU drivers):

Claggy:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76499&postid=1626522#1626522

Richard Haselgrove:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76542&postid=1628895#1628895
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76522&postid=1630573#1630573
745) Questions and Answers : Windows : Google Chrome tick box problem. (Message 1657713)
Posted 27 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Apparently this menu choice is a recent patch or upgrade to the browser.

Yes, Apparently the way it looks changed:
(not that I ever looked at this place before your post)

I was looking in 'Chrome' 35 - in fact SRWare Iron Portable 35.0.1900.0 / IronPortable.zip from:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/srwareiron.mirror/files/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/srwareiron.mirror/files/SRWare%20Iron%2035.0.1900.0/




***

Now in Slimjet Browser Portable 3.0.3 (Chromium 40)
http://www.slimjet.com/en/

... I see this:
* The RED arrow show where to click to Enable/Disable






 
746) Questions and Answers : Getting started : I have a strange pulsin signal on my graph (Message 1657664)
Posted 27 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
Not that I think it is real signal but if you want us (we, which respond here, are just 'normal' users like you) to see what you see you may:
- instead of screensaver use [Show graphics] (select 'Running' CPU task first)
- by Alt+[PrintScreen] Copy the window
- Paste in some program and save as .PNG

I use for this IrfanView
http://www.irfanview.com/

Upload the .PNG picture to some site and give the link, e.g. on:
http://uppix.com/

Like this (old pic from 14.02.2009):
http://uppix.com/f-SETI_455153ec000189d13.png

P.S.
Sometimes it is possible to hit [PrintScreen] during the screensaver and get the fullscreen picture but I think not always.
I don't use the screensaver (my apps do not have it) so don't exactly remember.
The above picture was made (if I recall what I did in 2009) during offline test (not in BOINC)
 
747) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC 7.4.42 Windows_x86_64 Keeps Shutting Itself Down Under Windows 8.1 (Message 1657148)
Posted 26 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Did you try a reboot after BOINC 7.4.42 installation?

Also check for errors in Windows Event Viewer

I prefer to use MyEventViewer
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/my_event_viewer.html
748) Questions and Answers : Getting started : I have a strange pulsin signal on my graph (Message 1656975)
Posted 26 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Also the new site have some info:
https://seti.berkeley.edu/setiathome/glossary

Read "Procedures for Public Announcement" - the last part "... it is important that participants in the SETI@home project do not get excited when they see signals on their screen ..."


(The page about screensaver on the new site still do not exist:
https://seti.berkeley.edu/setiathome/screensaver

I don't know if they will write new page based on the current screensaver or will just Copy/Paste the info for seticlassic
(if new info - it will be almost the same, only pictures different)
)

"SETI@home: Glossary of Terms"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_glossary.php

It is unclear where you "have a white colored signal" so read 'Radio Frequency Interference (RFI)'


Since there are billions of "signals found" so far:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sci_status.html

... anything you see on the screensaver is only pretty picture and is nothing to be excited
It may be RFI or a test signal (yes, they sometimes inject test signals to test the correctness of apps)
749) Message boards : Number crunching : Just added 3rd GPU and CPU is 'Waiting for Memory' (Message 1656705)
Posted 25 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
- Windows display driver model mirrors VRAM for display driver recovery purposes

How often this mirroring takes place?
(I assume you mean the whole VRAM (?) is copied (by some DMA controller?) to main computer RAM every X seconds?)
750) Questions and Answers : Windows : WinServer 2012 R2 Essential and BOINC (Message 1656699)
Posted 25 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Will future versions of BOINC solve these problems in Win Servers?

If it was Windows Server 2003 (= Windows XP equivalent) - there exist some 'intermediate' BOINC versions which may allow GPU use even if BOINC runs as service.
(for 'Domain Controller' those BOINC versions still will need manual installation)

After a certain BOINC version (I don't remember which) they no longer even try to detect GPU if BOINC runs as a service.
(and yes, "It is not a BOINC issue" on Vista++)
751) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU driver version lists (Message 1656553)
Posted 25 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Looks like I would need to have a 2nd look.

Yes, it is known, e.g. by "Computers belonging to Richard Haselgrove":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=5509

... that GeForce GTX 750 Ti is supported on Windows XP
The NVIDIA page lists ~15 drivers from 335.04 to 347.88

Richard uses 335.28 (obviously successfully) but if he tried other versions I don't know (or remember)

Maybe easier is to look in 'SUPPORTED PRODUCTS' tab of a driver page:
http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/74421/en-us

In some fields of your table you may need 'fuzzy' words like Most/Some/Few or some ~% of supported GPUs
752) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Support for AMD Radeon R9 200 Series (Message 1656542)
Posted 25 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
AMD GPUs can crunch more than AstroPulse. If he hasn't received MultiBeam either, then the OP should still check their installation and driver.

BOINC detects GPUs:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7423200

He had some GPU tasks done in the past days:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7423200&offset=0&show_names=0&state=2&appid=

He uses AMD-APP 1445.5
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4038226041
... which corresponds to Catalyst 14.4
http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet.htm


He also appear to have too small a WU cache Settings (< 1 day)
Or he let BOINC run tasks only a small fraction of time (e.g. "compute only when idle" but he shutdown/sleep computer soon after not in use)

He have many "Not started by deadline - canceled"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7423200&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=
http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/results.php?hostid=154004
(on other projects his computers are 'Hidden')

Since difference between 'Sent' and 'Time reported or deadline' is only a few minutes I may guess he had/have some network/Internet troubles.
 
753) Message boards : Technical News : /dev/null (Mar 16 2015) (Message 1656532)
Posted 25 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
My first quick look at PostgreSQL is 400 MB is considered a big dB ...

Where did you see that??
754) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU Problem (Message 1656385)
Posted 24 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Well I'm still scratching my head and trying TO figure out WHY I was running 100% errors on my GPU

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76946&postid=1655235#1655235
"... when I was actually running at 925MHz"
755) Message boards : Technical News : /dev/null (Mar 16 2015) (Message 1656308)
Posted 24 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The problem is not merely in finding a database that can handle S@H, it's also in finding one they can afford.

Yes, and they can afford PostgreSQL as it is free
http://www.postgresql.org/
http://www.postgresql.org/download/
http://www.enterprisedb.com/products-services-training/pgdownload

Out of curiosity I downloaded the Windows 32 bit installer and it is only 56 MB

According to Wikipedia it is on par with Oracle by speed:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostgreSQL#Benchmarks_and_performance

E.g. "In April 2012, Robert Haas of EnterpriseDB demonstrated PostgreSQL 9.2's linear CPU scalability using a server with 64 cores"

I remember some post that Informix work slow and at the same time do not load CPU and HDD ...
Found it:
"Informix never ceases to astonish me with the way it does things. The table rebuild is neither maxing out CPUs or I/O, primarily because it doesn't seem to be running the table creation in parallel. It's working on one table fragment at a time"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76106&postid=1600681#1600681

For me PostgreSQL seems/looks better than MySQL (and maybe better than the old version of Informix they use?)

If they have "effectively infinite amount of disk space (38TB usable)" and "copy of the whole database as it lives on disk (about 13TB)"
and have some time (of course) they may do some 'play' with PostgreSQL (e.g. examine if there are tools/add-ons/interface to convert from Informix to PostgreSQL)
 
756) Message boards : Technical News : /dev/null (Mar 16 2015) (Message 1655983)
Posted 23 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
UC Berkeley have their own "Database Services" (lists several DB)
http://ist.berkeley.edu/services/catalog/database

I think they were already asked by SETI@home staff for better solution (PostgreSQL ?) but "returned empty" (lack of some needed features?)

PostgreSQL seems to have some major users:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostgreSQL#Prominent_users

Comparison of Limits:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_relational_database_management_systems#Limits
757) Message boards : Number crunching : Ways to bypass the limits. (Message 1655956)
Posted 23 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Also the .vlar tasks are apparently returning nothing of interest as well.

?????


Those tasks having a high angle range could possibly be of more interest, though.

???

P.S.
What happened with musicplayer ... ;)
758) Questions and Answers : Windows : Google Chrome tick box problem. (Message 1655922)
Posted 23 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
To show:
F12
<Esc>

I don't see such a box. Picture?
759) Message boards : Number crunching : New graphics card (Message 1655719)
Posted 22 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Changing CUDA app version will/should not lose tasks (if done by Lunatics Installer as it have carefully made .aistub files)
Only if you have non-standard manual edits in app_info.xml on things like <version_num>NNN</version_num> or <plan_class>PPPPP</plan_class>
or forget to select any CUDA app may you lose tasks.

The old tasks will still show as CUDA 4.2 in BOINC Manager but will be done by CUDA 5.0 app (as you can check in Windows Task Manager)
The new Downloads will be shown as CUDA 5.0 in BOINC Manager

Just be careful to also select all the other apps (e.g. SETI@home v7 on CPU) you use now.
You may check in your current app_info.xml which apps you use now
'Apps' means not the particular .exe files but <name>setiathome_v7</name> on CPU and/or GPU and <name>astropulse_v7</name> on CPU and/or GPU
760) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU Problem (Message 1655339)
Posted 21 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
How to ;)

I go to your link:
http://prntscr.com/6jetdi

Right-Click on picture -> Copy image URL
... which gives:
http://i.imgur.com/P3tAVwI.png

(on some sites it is harder to get direct link to the picture - you need to use "Inspect Element" or look in the source Ctrl+U)
761) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU Problem (Message 1655335)
Posted 21 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Hi Eric,
unfortunately your number crunching forum appears to no longer support IMG tags, such as this picture of Bert representing the budding Boinc Emrgency Response Team. That's a problem.


[img]http://prntscr.com/6jetdi[/img] is not picture but html page

This is picture:

[img]http://i.imgur.com/P3tAVwI.png[/img]

762) Message boards : Number crunching : Some GPU workunits cause driver reset (Message 1655308)
Posted 21 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
On ATI usually AstroPulse runs much better - many (including me) report much less lag, gain/speedup compared to CPU is bigger
So you may try to run only AstroPulse on ATI

I run only AstroPulse on ATI + only SETI@home v7 on CPU
The lack of AstroPulse tasks recently (during the last month) 'forced' me to do some SETI@home v7 on ATI - every few minutes I was feeling lag/stuttering (2 peaks of ~5 s each) of mouse and ... everything

(The 2 peaks of ~5 s each of no responsiveness are also visible in Process Lasso)
763) Message boards : Number crunching : New graphics card (Message 1655300)
Posted 21 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5967851

3/20/2015 4:46:25 PM | SETI@home | Message from server: Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of AstroPulse v7

This means you have enabled AstroPulse in your SETI@home preferences but didn't selected any AstroPulse app during Lunatics Install

Lunatics Installer v0.43a (get it if you used older)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71867&postid=1596404#1596404

Now you use CUDA 4.20 app, for GeForce GTX 780 Ti better select CUDA 5.0
764) Message boards : Number crunching : Resend Lost Tasks? (Message 1654873)
Posted 20 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It seems you haven't "worked out" anything. Sorry...
Bolded it for you...

To think that Richard do not read is absolute nonsense
765) Message boards : Number crunching : Some GPU workunits cause driver reset (Message 1654870)
Posted 20 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If I see a message I'm pretty sure it's “Display driver stopped responding and has recovered”.

Seems to be TdrDelay default of 2 seconds
Don't disable TdrDelay - just set it to somehow higher value:
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75391&postid=1561837#1561837

Also you may test (or aim) for less load on GPU by cmdline options/switches:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76447&postid=1638568#1638568


It often happens when I'm away from the machine, and often if I try to restart the task (by suspending GPU then unsuspending again) it will immediately cause an initial black screen then some things will become visible again but the system is unresponsive. Mouse cursor can move but you can't actually click on anything that is visible.

After “Display driver stopped responding and has recovered” the OpenCL part of the driver is in unstable state (I think I know that from Raistmer (the programmer of the OpenCL apps))
So don't try to do anything OpenCL (like "restart the task") before you do real reboot (restart of Windows)


Which of the tests you linked do you think I should use, or should I just try working through all of them?

Why not try them all? ;)
766) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU Newbie (Message 1654851)
Posted 20 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Also got an option to enable the Intel GPU too which I didnt notice before.

My Intel driver is above the version it states it needs but is not see by BOINC in its eventlog.

Would be nice to get this working too to bump the figures up a little!

Read "Intel GPU" thread and decide if iGPU worth the effort (times for CPU tasks may suffer a lot)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76941
767) Message boards : Number crunching : Some GPU workunits cause driver reset (Message 1654828)
Posted 20 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Seti@home WU crashed as per my thread title.

1) "WU" is data file, so you probably want to say "Seti@home GPU app crashed"?
2) "as per thread title": "Some GPU workunits cause driver reset" (which means? ... what exact Message? "Video driver failed and was restarted"?)


As per my OP I have done Memtest, Prime95 and Furmark already.

(I know as I read before posting)
None of which is OpenCL (so don't test the Computing ability of the GPU+driver)
(in my links are some OpenCL tests)

Prime95 is old and do not load CPUs much. For CPU + RAM test better try
LinX (Linpack):
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?201670-LinX-A-simple-Linpack-interface
768) Questions and Answers : Web site : Odd Signature! (Message 1654306)
Posted 18 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
You now use this:
[img]http://www.boincstats.com/signature/user_202703.gif[/img]




Probably you want to change to this:

[img]http://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/2485755/sig.png[/img]




P.S.
The flag of your (chosen) country "Isle of Man" do not exist (here):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/flags/im.png

Do you want this fixed? (is this your real country?)

E.g. some other flags:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/flags/nl.png
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/flags/bg.png
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/flags/gb.png
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/flags/br.png
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/flags/ck.png
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/flags/cc.png
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/flags/cx.png


Antarctica do not exist (of the few I checked):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/flags/aq.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_top-level_domains#Country_code_top-level_domains
 
769) Message boards : News : News from Berkeley SETI Research Center (Message 1654286)
Posted 18 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You won't find me dead on Facebook ...

I don't use social sites either but this Facebook page is visible without log-in.

The only thing I clicked on is this link/page which looks interesting (but consumes full CPU core):
"Animated map showing SETI@home data in randomized order from a 5 minute period within the last 24 hours":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/kiosk/
770) Message boards : Number crunching : Some GPU workunits cause driver reset (Message 1654079)
Posted 18 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... when restarting BOINC and re-enabling GPU it crashed almost instantly.

What crashed? The app, driver, BOINC, Windows ...?

Try the stability of the computer/GPU/driver/PSU with some test programs:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76878&postid=1650200#1650200
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76878&postid=1651402#1651402
771) Message boards : Number crunching : overheating (Message 1653509)
Posted 16 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
where do i find TThrottle

In the link in my previous post (TThrottle word is blue)
772) Message boards : Number crunching : overheating (Message 1653089)
Posted 15 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Check heatsinks/fans, clean dust, and try TThrottle to limit the temperature.
773) Questions and Answers : Windows : Why BOINC not use my GPU? (Message 1652825)
Posted 14 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
The RED have to be on these:

2015/3/14 18:35:25 | | cc_config.xml not found - using defaults
2015/3/14 18:35:26 | | Starting BOINC client version 7.4.36 for windows_x86_64
2015/3/14 18:35:26 | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
2015/3/14 18:35:26 | | Libraries: libcurl/7.39.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1j zlib/1.2.8
2015/3/14 18:35:26 | | Running as a daemon
2015/3/14 18:35:26 | | Data directory: D:\BOINC\DATA
2015/3/14 18:35:26 | | Running under account boinc_master
2015/3/14 18:35:26 | | No usable GPUs found

Which means You intentionally (by checking Option manually) installed BOINC as a service. (this was already noted by arkayn)

Now Uninstall BOINC - this will NOT lose tasks or Settings/Preferences - just Uninstall, do not delete anything manually.

Install BOINC again but now Uncheck "Service Install"
(as BOINC installer remembers your last choice you will need to Uncheck this manually)
 
774) Message boards : Number crunching : Banana Pi (Message 1652704)
Posted 14 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
BOINC doesn't seem to be reliably able to determine the number of CPU cores -- sometimes it thinks 1, sometimes 2, finally settled on 4. I've never worked out how to use the fifth core in Ubuntu ...

You have to be able to use <ncpus>N</ncpus> in cc_config.xml to force/tell BOINC you have N CPUs (cores)
775) Message boards : Number crunching : CPU Power Usage Varies Significantly With RAM Frequency (Message 1652427)
Posted 13 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Makes it sound like it may have been a bad decision to move it into the CPU ...

Do you try to cheat the laws of physics? ;)
If you 'move' the memory controller back to the chipset you'll also move the heat "problem"
With the additional "benefit" of slower RAM transfers and need for additional cooling of chipset ...
776) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home How-To Article on Digital Ocean VPS (Message 1652416)
Posted 13 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm not sure why you recommend <cpu_usage_limit>25.000000</cpu_usage_limit> ("CPU usage is limited to 25%")
The apps run at lowest priority so should not interfere with the 'normal' work.

If you still think you need to make less CPU load - better use for this <max_ncpus_pct>XX.000000</max_ncpus_pct>
BOINC CPU usage throttle is not fine-grained, the time-slice is 1 s (if 'they' did not changed this recently?)
- CPU usage 25% = "suspend/pause the app process for 3 s" + "resume/run the app process for 1 s"

<cpu_usage_limit> will make spikes in CPU load, <max_ncpus_pct> will just start less tasks and CPU load will be more smooth/constant.
777) Message boards : Number crunching : Can I prevent longer 7.03 WUs being downloaded? (GPU problem) (Message 1652410)
Posted 13 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The minimum driver/SDK combination is Cat 11.7 with CAL 1.4.1457, SDK 2.5, and OpenCL runtime 2.5.684.213

ATI Driver Version Cheat Sheet

Are you sure? (are the stock apps so old?)
Better to use as minimum Catalyst 11.12 (SDK 2.6 / AMD-APP 831.4) to be prepared if the stock apps are updated to the current 'optimized'. (or if the user decide later to use Lunatics installer)
778) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Show Graphic option is Greyed out Please help!! (Message 1652393)
Posted 13 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Also most of the workunits released for us these days are GPU and there may not be any CPU workunits available all the time.

There is no such thing here as "GPU workunits" and/or "CPU workunits" - all tasks can be sent to CPU or GPU (NVIDIA, ATI AMD, Intel), and to different OSes (Windows, Linux, Mac OS, Android)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

Click in the 'Work unit' column of any of your tasks:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7500949&offset=0&show_names=0&state=2&appid=

Your NVIDIA and someone else CPU get the same task (same WU file is Downloaded by you for NVIDIA and by someone else for CPU):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1705859119


You probably have too much CPU work from other projects so your BOINC do not ask for CPU tasks from SETI@home
If your BOINC do not ask for CPU tasks - it of course will not get any.
779) Questions and Answers : Windows : Radeon R9 285 not detected as a GPU (Message 1651938)
Posted 12 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Someone gave me another answer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76849&postid=1648498#1648498

I am indeed running it as a daemon....

It may be "another answer" but not a different answer.

Quotes from this thread "Did you install BOINC as Service?" / "running as a service" / "be sure to uncheck the Service option" / "provided ... BOINC is Not installed in service mode"
and "Service Install" as is on BOINC installation screen
means the same as "Running as a daemon" as printed in BOINC Event Log

So you already had the info needed.
780) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU died? (Message 1651402)
Posted 10 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
LuxMark fails video driver when checking NVidia. Using HD 2500 or CPU works fine but pictures rendered are weird.
FluidMark works only if PhysX is computed on CPU. When checking GPU it renders only a second or two (I see first hundred of frames) and then video driver crashes.

BUT! MilkyWay@home just completed about 10 WUs on the machine and all the tasks are checked as correct.

When you say "then video driver crashes" do you mean real crash or it is caused by TdrDelay default of 2 seconds?:
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75391&postid=1561837#1561837

Since some OpenCL works (MilkyWay@home) and some fails (LuxMark) it seems to me that either part of the driver files or part of the GPU is defective.
(Not every test may use all the parts/functions of the driver/GPU. I don't know which program may test/use all the parts)

You may try also the OpenGL & OpenCL tests ("Demos") in GPU Caps Viewer
http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/

(! "Furry Cube" is HEAVY OpenGL Test similar to FurMark)

FurMark (HEAVY GPU Stress Test, OpenGL, watch the temperature!)
http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/

OCCT (HEAVY - watch the temperature!)
http://www.ocbase.com/

For me OCCT 3.1.0 gives 10-15 °C higher temperature than OCCT 4.3.1 and OCCT 4.4.0
http://cub0.spaces.ru/files/?read=19526476&sid=2866152017028451

OCCTPT3.1.0-spaces.ru.zip scan:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/01f76cfbc49fba716c6a863e4b521717ffaaa4ca96ec543a0cddd9ea342de7cc/analysis/1426001321/


I also found CompuBench but it is only for 64 bit:
http://compubench.com/

 
781) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU died? (Message 1651357)
Posted 10 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
P.S. To detect CUDA on GeForce 8400 you have to install newer driver. I found myself version 340.50 to work fine both on 750Ti and GeForce 8400 simultaneously (though under XP)

CUDA works fine for SETI@home as you can see:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7396088&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=

(Windows XP, NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS (511MB) driver: 266.58)

I just said that CUDA-Z do not detect it (which don't bother me)
I will not change the best driver for older GPUs which is 266.58

! In fact 340.50 should NOT be used for older GPUs !
@Pre-FERMI nVidia GPU users: Important warning:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75633
782) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Merch (Message 1650897)
Posted 9 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
"It is official! 15th Seti Anni Shirts are a go":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74716#1512671

(ask in that thread if they exist now and how to get)


As for "printing the certificates in a smaller size" it's up to you
Make "Photo certificate" or "Modern" - they generate 900 x 675 .jpg files
Save the image and resize as you wish
 
783) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU died? (Message 1650200)
Posted 7 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... these are the cores used for running CUDA. They aren't used for OpenGL or DirectX 3D rendering

I think the 'CUDA cores' are the same silicon as 'Shaders' so they have to be used in games.
OTOH 'Video Memory stress Test' (mikelab.kiev.ua) may not use (much) 'Shaders' while testing video RAM by DirectX or OpenGL
I think it creates some textures and fills the RAM with them.
(I remember on my ATI AMD Radeon HD 6570 the OpenGL video RAM test to run much faster than DirectX)


'CUDA cores' have to be used in PhysX and OpenCL, so I will suggest some more tests:
Of course they have to be run on the NVIDIA and not CPU or Intel GPU

FluidMark (PhysX)
http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/physx-fluidmark/

LuxMark v3.x (OpenCL) (Binaries only for Windows 64bit)
http://www.luxrender.net/wiki/LuxMark

LuxMark v2.x (OpenCL) (Have Windows 32bit executables)
http://www.luxrender.net/wiki/LuxMark_v2

ShaderToyMark ("OpenGL benchmark based on hefty pixel shaders")
http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/shadertoymark/


CUDA-Z
http://cuda-z.sourceforge.net/

CUDA-Z do not work (can't detect CUDA) on my NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS (511MB) driver: 266.58 - so I don't know when it works.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7396088
784) Message boards : Number crunching : Intel® iGPU AP bench test run (e.g. @ J1900) (Message 1649779)
Posted 6 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You have 4 combinations (lines) with very similar Elapsed time of ~1040 seconds

If I understood Raistmer correct - when signal is found the block is reprocessed
So I would think to choose the lowest values of all that give the same Run time:
(low values also should reduce lag)

-unroll 5 -ffa_block 736 -ffa_block_fetch 736 -hp

 
785) Message boards : Number crunching : Help with config to run multiple gpu wu in non-lunatics installation (Message 1649765)
Posted 6 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I would probably recommend 0.35 CPU

With 2 task per GPU the "0.35 CPU" will not do anything (BOINC can't 'reserve' part of a core: 2 * 0.35 = 0.7 < 1 )

"0.5 CPU" will free one CPU core (one less CPU task)
"0.99 CPU" will free one CPU core (Truncate(1.98) = 1)

"1.0 CPU" will free two CPU cores
786) Questions and Answers : Windows : Problem with Cuda WU (Message 1649710)
Posted 5 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
GeForce GTX 560 Ti is notorious for producing false overflows (e.g. "Autocorr count: 30")
caused by too optimistic factory Overclock + too low GPU core voltage

You need to lower MHz (of "shaders" / "CUDA cores") and/or up the GPU voltage
For this you may use MSI Afterburner, EVGA Precision or similar tool:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65894&postid=1165854#1165854


jason_gee (the programmer of the CUDA apps):
"The current school of thought is that some of these factory overclocked 560ti's need some extra GPU core voltage for stability running Cuda, the theory being that the manufacturers may have spent the effort getting them 'game stable' but overlooked Cuda/PhysX stability"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66124&postid=1170945#1170945

Links to voltage/MHz table posted by user "f_n_t":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=63429&postid=1118632#1118632


Your: clockRate = 1800 MHz

NVIDIA say:
Processor Clock (MHz) 1645 or 1464

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69380&postid=1294814#1294814

 
787) Message boards : Technical News : Marching on... (March 4, 2015) (Message 1649372)
Posted 5 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I am finding it hilarious how our 45-drive JBOD at the colo (which we got about 3 years ago) is having drives drop like flies right now. I've been replacing about 1 drive a week on average in that array for the past 3-4 months.

As you probably know from Google research - HDDs don't like to run too cool, they last longer at 30-35°C (as read from SMART)

"Failure Trends in a Large Disk Drive Population"
http://research.google.com/pubs/pub32774.html
788) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (96) Server Problems? (Message 1649366)
Posted 5 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
"Marching on... (March 4, 2015)" (Technical News) - Matt Lebofsky
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76871
789) Message boards : Number crunching : Intel® iGPU AP bench test run (e.g. @ J1900) (Message 1649351)
Posted 4 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Winner of 3. run:
-unroll 5 -ffa_block 1472 -ffa_block_fetch 736 -hp : Elapsed 1043.571 secs CPU 13.578 secs
...
-unroll 5 -ffa_block 1472 -ffa_block_fetch 736 -hp : Elapsed 1040.732 secs CPU 21.859 secs
...
2nd run of 1472/736 and ~ 3 secs less elapsed time, but ~ 8 secs more CPU time. Didn't thought that a so big difference would be possible between two runs.

"a so big difference"??
IMHO it's very tiny:
    3/1000 = 0.003 = 0.3 %

What gain you'll have if you find 1% faster Settings?
You will save 1 day per 100 days (100 days of AstroPulse on GPU will (maybe) do the work for 101 days)
0.3 % will 'save' one day per year

Are you just kidding by "The whole bench test run could lasts days, I want to find the best params. ;-)"

Don't you think the test should last less days than the gain you can have per year? (and this do not count the CPU 'lost days' during tests)
The apps will change after year, most probably after months. And you'll need to test again ...
790) Message boards : Number crunching : Help with config to run multiple gpu wu in non-lunatics installation (Message 1649332)
Posted 4 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
VS saved the file in UTF8. When I changed to ansi, everything started to work...

Pity that BOINC do not give any warning in such cases.
It say "Found app_config.xml" but probably see the file as empty.

I wonder if log flag <unparsed_xml> (or some other log flag?) will make BOINC give some warning on UTF8 file?
(e.g. "app_config.xml do not configure any apps (file empty or in wrong format)" or "[unparsed_xml] п»ї")

I use old BOINC which do not support app_config.xml, somebody with current BOINC have to test.
791) Message boards : Number crunching : Tracking Laptop through Seti (Message 1649009)
Posted 4 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So this have to be the "Toshiba laptop" you talk about:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7173371

I think that "Not started by deadline - canceled" requires that the local BOINC (on the "Toshiba laptop") is informed about the request to cancel.

Local BOINC sends some sched_request_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml to the server (for whatever reason) - this have info for all the tasks and their state ('state' from the scope of the local BOINC).
From this sched_request the server sees the task is still not started by deadline and sends back "request to cancel" in sched_reply_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml

But this is just my "theory" ...


If the "External IP address" is not yours (is not IP of any place (e.g. workplace, cafe, university ...) you used to connect to Internet from the "Toshiba laptop")
then it have to be IP address where somebody else used Internet from the laptop ...
792) Questions and Answers : Windows : Cannot get any more units (Message 1648986)
Posted 4 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Dear Dunce,
The Exteme in the intel Sandy Bridge Extreme The lenovo td a W520.

Hi Dear Dunce (is Dear your first name or surname?)

I really don't care about Intel or Lenovo trade names and don't intend to search the very "informative" phrase "td a W520" (???)
793) Message boards : Number crunching : Help with config to run multiple gpu wu in non-lunatics installation (Message 1648404)
Posted 2 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Have you suspended Einstein and/or all other projects?

You suppose that maybe one SETI@home + one Einstein task run on the GPU but this seems not to be the case.

His log say that SETI@home task 'need 1' GPU (not 0.5):

3/1/2015 9:47:36 PM | SETI@home | [coproc] NVIDIA instance 0: confirming 1.000000 instance for 27jl12ab.32488.2112.438086664206.12.109_1
3/1/2015 9:47:36 PM | SETI@home | [coproc] Insufficient NVIDIA for 27jl12ab.32488.2112.438086664206.12.148_0; need 1, available 0
 
794) Message boards : Number crunching : Help with config to run multiple gpu wu in non-lunatics installation (Message 1648399)
Posted 2 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Computer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7433523

... which leads me to believe that "setiathome_v7" is wrong value in Name element of xml. Can you confirm the name value?

<name>setiathome_v7</name> is OK:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76754&postid=1644471#1644471


According to values you suggested should be looking for 0.25gpu not 1.0gpu

"should be looking for 0.5gpu"

Do you save app_config.xml as ANSI?
Try log flag <unparsed_xml>
795) Message boards : Number crunching : Tracking Laptop through Seti (Message 1648378)
Posted 2 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I got a server contact with an external IP When I googled the number it came back from Viet Nam.

Is this the "Toshiba laptop" you talk about:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4773816

Your first Post: 9 Feb 2015
Last contact 13 Feb 2015
It get tasks on 11, 12 and 13 Feb
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=4773816

So it was used (made contacts) ~4 days after "the fact"


The wording I see on my Computer pages is 'External IP address'
It shows my IP (of the router)
The real IP can be hidden by use of VPN/Proxy/Tor bur I doubt 'they' are smart enough (after all they used the laptop without noticing BOINC exists)

Check the IP on:
http://geoip.flagfox.net/
http://whatismyipaddress.com/
http://ipinfodb.com/
796) Message boards : Number crunching : Radeon R9 285 not detected as a GPU (Message 1648352)
Posted 2 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You recreated ABSOLUTELY the same thread here (3 minutes later):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76850

Are we supposed to answer in both??
797) Message boards : Number crunching : Win7 & Boinc Problems (Message 1648350)
Posted 2 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
He have another such task:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4000164951

Maximum disk usage exceeded
Peak disk usage 36.61 MB
798) Questions and Answers : Windows : Cannot get any more units (Message 1648345)
Posted 2 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
But my Lenovo doesn't ... My Extreme can't ...

No one except you knows which of your computers you call "Lenovo" and which "Extreme":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=9785864

Refer to them by ID# if you want people to understand what you mean


One of the computers have many 'Abandoned' tasks:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7511682

If you try to 'fix' Download problems (which are on the servers now) by 'Reset' of project - 'Reset' obviously will not help at all.
799) Questions and Answers : Windows : Radeon R9 285 not detected as a GPU (Message 1648342)
Posted 2 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
As you can see on your SETI@home preferences there are Settings:

Use ATI GPU
Use NVIDIA GPU
Use Intel GPU

So not only BOINC detects the 3 types of GPUs (provided the 'right' driver is used and BOINC is Not installed in service mode)
but SETI@home have apps for them:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

Lunatics apps can't run unless BOINC starts them.
And BOINC will not start GPU apps until it can see the OpenCL or CUDA driver.
 
800) Questions and Answers : Preferences : boinc won't download seti tasks on android 4.4.2 (Message 1648341)
Posted 2 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I see only "Android (ARM processor)" among stock SETI@home applications:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

(I don't have any Android device)
801) Message boards : Number crunching : Win7 & Boinc Problems (Message 1648086)
Posted 1 Mar 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
groovecutter, I wouldn't worry about non-helpful replies about punctuation, ...

What?? I never read such posts! A few people will have nerve to read = much less help.
The note about punctuation/formatting was quite right
802) Questions and Answers : Windows : Problem when composing text for public viewing. (Message 1647973)
Posted 28 Feb 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
There is a resize option in the lower right corner of the answer box.

Funny, I never noticed that ...

Also there is option to zoom in/out any page in the browser:
Ctrl+[Grey+]
Ctrl+[Grey-]
Ctrl+[Grey0] = return to 100% zoom (on some browsers this is Ctrl+[Grey*])
803) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Question about Wu's (Message 1645558)
Posted 23 Feb 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
"Lunatics Installer v0.43a (32-bit)" since im running a 32 bit windows xp ?

Yes, it contains all the needed apps, just select what you want/need. Screenshots from the previous installer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75391&postid=1555127#1555127

Select ALL of the apps that you use/want to use/can use, not just the CPU SETI@home


and if i keep using the stock boinc as suggested on the seti@home home page,
then i will most likely keep having issues with tasks hanging ?

No. The hang is in the standard/stock SETI@home CPU app, not in BOINC.

Lunatics Installer changes files only in SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)
The apps it puts there work under the 'normal' BOINC (and don't vanish when you update BOINC)
No other projects (like Einstein@Home, Asteroids@home, ...) are affected.
804) Message boards : Number crunching : Some help with SETI/BOINC on a Mac (Message 1645298)
Posted 22 Feb 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
First, this is an older iBook G4

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBook#iBook_G4_.28.22Snow.22.29

"iBook G4 ("Snow")
Apple added a PowerPC G4 chip to the iBook line on October 23, 2003
"

I don't think SETI@home have current applications for PowerPC CPU
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php
805) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Question about Wu's (Message 1645268)
Posted 22 Feb 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This is hang in 'Optimal function choices' - only one line printed: "v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)"
(in fact no real progress in the task was made despite (new) BOINC may show 'progress' >0%)

Normally 5 lines will be printed:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3988453646


I already said a way to detect this condition: "After app Hangs - most of the CPU time/load (~70%) is in Kernel mode (SIV, Process Explorer):"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75617&postid=1577361#1577361

Do you see the same? (my test was on slow 524 MHz AMD K6-2+)


Also:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75617&postid=1571978#1571978

"'Optimal function choice' do not depend on the task itself (so hang may happen again with any task)
This test is done before the app even looks at the task data

Suspend/Restart it (wait a few minutes after Restart)
Look in stderr.txt to see the printed functions (Optimal function choices) in the table
(do Suspend/Restart a few times if needed)
"


Also:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75617&postid=1575344#1575344

"Of course it will happen, it don't depend on task, it depend on app
This is long existing problem with 'Optimal function choices' test on AMD CPUs
(sometimes the test hangs, sometimes not. On some systems it hangs a lot, on some - never/rarely)
"


The "Installer v0.43a" is the way to avoid this.
806) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU performance of GTX580 and GTX780Ti (Message 1644471)
Posted 20 Feb 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Do you use app_config.xml to run 2 tasks per GPU?
<app_config>

   <app>
      <name>setiathome_v7</name>
      <gpu_versions>
         <gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
         <cpu_usage>0.04</cpu_usage>
      </gpu_versions>
   </app>

   <app>
      <name>astropulse_v7</name>
      <gpu_versions>
         <gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
         <cpu_usage>0.5</cpu_usage>
      </gpu_versions>
   </app>

</app_config>


P.S.
If you want people which use GPUs like yours to give info on their speed first hand - post in Number Crunching
Or you can click the red-x square under your first post and ask a moderator to move this thread to Number Crunching
807) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Only want to run cuda tasks (Message 1644430)
Posted 20 Feb 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
And seeing as on my pc it shows 2048gb mem and also on the box it came in. SO yea that page is very odd to me with that information given...

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7502534

I think on 32 bit OS the CUDA driver can't see/use all the GPU RAM
BOINC asks NVIDIA driver and it says 1024 MB so BOINC reports that.

The same say the SETI@home CUDA application:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3983912012

"Device 1: GeForce GTX 460 SE, 1024 MiB"


But probably games using DirectX or OpenGL can use all the GPU RAM (video driver may be flipping pages into the 32 bit address space 0-4 GB?)?


What is shown by GPU Caps Viewer on it's different tabs?
http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/

For me on Windows XP (32 bit) GPU Caps Viewer 1.20.1 show:
- OpenGL - Total GPU memory 1024MB
- OpenCL - Global Mem. 512MB



 
808) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Experience (Message 1644404)
Posted 20 Feb 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
More on so called "reputation"

This is scan of sndvol32.exe 5.1.2600.0 which is Volume Control on Windows XP (= exists for a long time on huge number of computers)
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/760fbbecef10ebe18aa84b1eddbc2237efb914c29a4413fb3cb6a7c60759b4f6/analysis/

Still if you click on tab 'Additional information' you can read at the bottom:

"Advanced heuristic and reputation engines
ClamAV PUA                     Possibly Unwanted Application. ...
Symantec reputation         Suspicious.Insight
"
http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2010-021223-0550-99
"Suspicious.Insight
Risk Level 1: Very Low

Suspicious.Insight is a detection for files that have not yet developed a strong reputation among Symantec’s community of users.
Detections of this type are based on Symantec’s reputation-based security technology."


P.S.
I use 'System Explorer' to easy check running files on their site and on VirusTotal
http://systemexplorer.net/file-database/file/sndvol32-exe/576304?sei=1
http://systemexplorer.net/

Similar to Process Explorer
809) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Only want to run cuda tasks (Message 1643289)
Posted 17 Feb 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I don't have time to dedicate my GPU and CPU to run those 3 to 8 hour task files.

I'm not sure why you think you have to have "time to dedicate" when some task takes longer.

You can safely exit BOINC and/or shutdown the computer in the middle of Computing.
The next day the tasks will start from where they were (by default they checkpoint every minute)
810) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Experience (Message 1643195)
Posted 17 Feb 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Note that I made a tiny revision of the 64-bit file five days after the initial release ...

OK, I have both 32 and 64 bit files from 03.11.2014 so that explains why "my" 32 bit file have the posted MD5 and the 64 bit file have different/older MD5:

4209d4f531c41133c8354ca78a21bfa7 *Lunatics_Win32_v0.43a_setup.exe
22a895b658af513da39d5fe8656e6df4 *Lunatics_Win64_v0.43a_setup.exe

If I had the new/current one from 07/11/2014 MD5 will be:
28446E92090456982558420ED98A9870 *Lunatics_Win64_v0.43a_setup.exe
811) Questions and Answers : Windows : enabling GPU Prozessing crashes the System (Message 1643138)
Posted 17 Feb 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Any more than that and you're going to need liquid cooling.

I think he already have liquid cooling:
"My power connectors are CPU contained water cooling unit"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76447&postid=1641900#1641900
812) Questions and Answers : Windows : enabling GPU Prozessing crashes the System (Message 1642823)
Posted 16 Feb 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I installed CoreTemp and ran it for a few minutes with nothing running. All 8 cores ran at about 1406 Hz and the temps stayed at 8c. Then I enabled BOINC and all cores jumped to 4017 Hz and after just a couple minutes temps were at 80c on each core and so I suspended BOINC again.

I'll downgrade BOINC and post what happens.

BOINC version will not have influence on the temperatures

Since the idle temperature is 8°C (do you really have so cool cooling fluid?)
but the CPU heats fast when computing - maybe bad contact CPU/heatsink? Or the fluid do not flow fast enough (or air in it)?

What is the rate/speed that CPU cools after you "suspended BOINC"?
Probably you can find some graphs/reviews on the Internet that show how fast your CPU/heatsink combo heats/cools on load/idle
813) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU performance of GTX580 and GTX780Ti (Message 1642815)
Posted 16 Feb 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
AstroPulse (which gives better credit/h) is down so anyone's RAC is down
I now have "Recent average credit 3,851" and usually when AstroPulse is working my RAC is ~8500
814) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Question about Wu's (Message 1642801)
Posted 16 Feb 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I tried 1 of the "optimized app" linked in that post but it messed things up.

I said "Read and see" - not 'apply'
The thread was only to inform you about the possibility of "hang in 'Optimal function choice' routine"
The links there are for Linux (as the poster there is using Linux)

For you it is easier - for Windows there are installers:

Look here for "Installer v0.43a"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71867&postid=1596404#1596404

Note: The CPU apps in the Installer are much faster but do not have graphics


i'm skeptical on the time though as they usually take up around 7 hours,

The complexity of computations (and 'Run time') depend on "angle range"

Some of your tasks:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7487541&offset=0&show_names=0&state=2&appid=

I see now one that computed in ~9,900 s (Run time 2 hours 45 min) - WU true angle range is : 2.657897
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3975294806

... and some that computed in ~27,000 s (Run time 7 hours 45 min) - WU true angle range is : 0.432601
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3973191411

That is normal difference in Run time
815) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Experience (Message 1642787)
Posted 16 Feb 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
...
1) The code which runs directly (just once) to perform the installation task...
...
With these 'generic', 'heuristic', or 'reputation' detections, it's probably the behaviour of the outer wrapper which triggers the report.

It is funny to look into this "behaviour" ;)

A) "They" consider the 32-bit code 'less-bad'
Lunatics_Win32_v0.43a_setup.exe (4 / 57)
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/a28bae036aa64d9c59c14fc20d3c9a4ee1b6acfd996a8e0932ad98f690b8ad32/analysis/

Lunatics_Win64_v0.43a_setup.exe (7 / 57)
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/68df9f695e36c1803c92a40f09bf17e0ce5182aaa2ab34de702a3abb10fd2a57/analysis/


B) Some of "them" do not scan the internals (the included .exe .dll files) the same way when in NSIS installer and in .7z (despite almost the same compression method is used)
I extracted Lunatics_Win64_v0.43a_setup.exe (by 7-Zip) and re-compressed the resulting directory by 7-Zip (the .7z file is 17 MB - 'Solid')

Lunatics_Win64_v0.43a_setup.7z (9 / 52)
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/65a3e4c98b0656ec4cf0475e5e5e8ce6352a88c55a27557fd02b0188b7aaf166/analysis/

All the 6 "Gen:Variant.Fosniw" are caused by BitDefender engine/signatures (which are used by the listed 6 Antiviruses)


Info on compression:

---------------------------
Properties
---------------------------
Size: 0
Packed Size: 25 323 101
Folders: 6
Files: 129
----------------------------
Path: ...\Lunatics_Win64_v0.43a_setup.exe
Type: Nsis
Method: LZMA:23
Solid: -


---------------------------
Properties
---------------------------
Size: 163 244 711
Packed Size: 17 261 062
Folders: 7
Files: 129
----------------------------
Path: ...\Lunatics_Win64_v0.43a_setup.7z
Type: 7z
Method: LZMA BCJ
Solid: +
Blocks: 2


EDIT:

C) Another strange thing - how many different versions of Lunatics_Win64_v0.43a_setup.exe exist?

Link from the post by Ageless:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76719&postid=1641439#1641439

... and the file I have do not have the same checksums:

SHA256: 1fc2d9144c3e2074a377f0a4e4c8ef9bfc03e4c68571958e9582f95841b17ff2
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/1fc2d9144c3e2074a377f0a4e4c8ef9bfc03e4c68571958e9582f95841b17ff2/analysis/

SHA256: 68df9f695e36c1803c92a40f09bf17e0ce5182aaa2ab34de702a3abb10fd2a57
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/68df9f695e36c1803c92a40f09bf17e0ce5182aaa2ab34de702a3abb10fd2a57/analysis/

 
816) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Experience (Message 1641870)
Posted 14 Feb 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
All of the big three ...

:D You consider those "big three" as good Antiviruses??

The most false of all detections:
McAfee Artemis
Symantec WS.Reputation
TrendMicro Suspicious_GEN

99% of files 'marked' with such "detections" are good, why some people use those "big three" is beyond me.


Both Symantec and McAfee with their reputation based systems ...

I never seen any real malware detected as "bad reputation" (on VirusTotal ), real malware will not show as just 'a guess'
"bad reputation" means just ... nothing


I will be watching my outbound firewall traffic for anything abnormal after I install.

You expect "outbound traffic" from SETI@home applications? :D
817) Message boards : Number crunching : statistics question (Message 1641847)
Posted 14 Feb 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... where I can see list of bookmarks ...

It's Ctrl+Shift+B for most browsers and Ctrl+Shift+O for Chromium variants, e.g. for SRWare Iron / IronPortable
http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_download.php

(No, I don't know which is the hot-key for IE)
818) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Question about Wu's (Message 1641836)
Posted 14 Feb 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Read this and decide if you see the same:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75617&postid=1571978#1571978
819) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GeForce 310 (Message 1640146)
Posted 11 Feb 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
And the thread to read is:
@Pre-FERMI nVidia GPU users: Important warning
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75633
820) Questions and Answers : Windows : Graph not showing (Message 1638571)
Posted 7 Feb 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
On Intel HD Graphics ?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76674&postid=1638111#1638111
821) Questions and Answers : Windows : enabling GPU Prozessing crashes the System (Message 1638568)
Posted 7 Feb 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
There are options to make the computations less demanding (and reduce lag)

Find the corresponding files in your SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\) and put the line with options/switches in them:

In file with name similar to ap_cmdline_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI.txt put:
-cpu_lock -unroll 2

In file with name similar to mb_cmdline_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5.txt put:
-cpu_lock -period_iterations_num 100

(the options will be in effect for the next restart of GPU apps (e.g. by Snooze GPU))


Also check for any Readme files in ...\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\docs\
822) Questions and Answers : Windows : Graphic display on screen saver (Message 1638111)
Posted 6 Feb 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... I have axes but no data inside...
...
- Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000
- Radeon (TM) HD 7670M


If you use the Radeon for the monitor - the graphics will be OK
If you use the Intel HD Graphics for the monitor - the graphics will not have Frequency-Power-Time graph (failure of Intel driver)

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74178&postid=1481247#1481247
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76338
823) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Optimizing & Dowloads (Message 1636542)
Posted 2 Feb 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
downloading AstroPulse v7 v7.03 (sse) and SETI@home v7 v7.00 (cuda22) tasks
were so painfully slow, I suspended and aborted them every time.
(each task would take at least 10 hours to download)

How do you know? = Where do you look and what do you see there?

(since there is no difference between SETI@home CPU and GPU (CUDA) WUs (all are ~360 KB) - all they have to Download in seconds)

I'm 99% sure the tasks have no problem to Download (if they show "Waiting to run" they are already there and were started at least one time)

This "SETI@home v7 v7.00 (cuda22)" and "Aborted by user" is for sure totally Downloaded as it Started/Restarted 3 times:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3942290325


You just don't give the GPU a chance to compute - by your Preferences to use GPU 'only when idle' and not giving the computer any idle time (probably by sleeping it immediately when you leave the keyboard)
824) Questions and Answers : Preferences : choosing optimal functions (Message 1636527)
Posted 2 Feb 2015 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
This problem is not connected with graphics at all.

It is a known problem with unknown cause - during "Optimal function choice" sometimes the stock CPU app hangs - usually happens on AMD CPUs

Read:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75617&postid=1571978#1571978
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75617&postid=1576847#1576847
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75617&postid=1577361#1577361
(All the 3 links are in the same thread)


'Fix': [Suspend] the task, [Resume] it - on next restart it may continue normally
 
825) Message boards : Number crunching : Best Stealth config? (Message 1614682)
Posted 16 Dec 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
if cpu monitoring is off, how does it know when its idle?

No keyboard or mouse activity is the definition of BOINC of idle computer

If she watches movies and don't touch keyboard or mouse for longer periods you may need to increase ( Computing preferences ):
'In use' means mouse/keyboard activity in last 30 minutes

"Suspend work when non-BOINC CPU usage is above" should be 0 (zero)


If you use Local preferences the wording is:
"Only after computer has been idle for 30 minutes"

"While processor usage is less than 0 percent"


BOINC Manager Menu
Activity Menu have to be set to
"Run based on preferences"
"Use GPU based on preferences"
 
826) Questions and Answers : Windows : CPU Usage 100% (Message 1614667)
Posted 16 Dec 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Why are you surprised? (you are here since 1999)
Why do you think you need to do something? (it is normal)
827) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Postponed: Unsupported OpenCL runtime - since Driver update. (Message 1613225)
Posted 13 Dec 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
He (Thomas Tilson) have some laptop:
"Running a HP Pavilion DV7 ... with a Radeon 7470M HD card"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_Pavilion_dv7

(too many models, all under name "HP Pavilion dv7")

Which means the drivers probably have to be from HP and not the 'generic' ATI AMD
(the laptop maybe have something called "switchable graphics" which complicates things)


HP Pavilion dv7 Entertainment Notebook PC series (~380 models listed)
Software & driver downloads
http://h20180.www2.hp.com/apps/Nav?h_pagetype=s-002&h_lang=en&h_cc=us&h_product=3744230&h_client=S-A-R163-1&h_page=hpcom&lang=en&cc=us
828) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Krisiya Todorova   [Signal found but was hidden - just Listen (1st April)     9 | !9 -> ?] (Message 1610863)
Posted 8 Dec 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
Do you know this site?:
http://www.flixxy.com/

("The most interesting, humorous and uplifting videos on the netâ„¢. Updated Daily.
Each day the Flixxy team looks through hundreds of new videos to pull out a few we think are the best")

I didn't
I was puzzled by a recent peak on views on my video attributed to "Em­bed­ded play­er on oth­er web­sites" (and not to the usual max impact on views by "You­Tube sug­ges­ted video")
I was wondering which site may have "Em­bed­ded play­er" that show my video.
At first I was thinking it is some Bulgarian site but most views from that "Em­bed­ded play­er" came from United States.

It turned out it was easy to find the source:
ANALYTICS -> Play­back loc­a­tions -> Em­bed­ded play­er on oth­er web­sites -> flixxy.com 6,391 (95%)

http://www.flixxy.com/9-year-old-krisiya-todorova-sings-listen-by-beyonce.htm

 
829) Message boards : Number crunching : The Highest Ranked SETI AMD Host is a MAC: Time for a STOCK MAC APP? (Message 1609267)
Posted 5 Dec 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
From Lunatics_Win64_v0.43a_setup.exe
        <plan_class>opencl_intel_gpu_sah</plan_class>
        	<cmdline></cmdline>	
	<coproc>
            <type>intel_gpu</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
830) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Postponed: Unsupported OpenCL runtime - since Driver update. (Message 1609086)
Posted 4 Dec 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet.htm

You seem to use driver equal to Catalyst 11.11 now (driver: 1.4.1607):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6628579

... and back on 14 Oct 2014 - your last Valid task for AstroPulse v6:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3783631857

Driver version: CAL 1.4.1607 (VM)
Version: OpenCL 1.1 AMD-APP-SDK-v2.5 (793.1)


For AstroPulse v7 and SETI@home v7 you need at least SDK-v2.6 (Catalyst 11.12)
(You may try to install only OpenCL.msi from a newer package)


It's terrible that Dell's "latest" have 'Release date 18 Aug 2010' (what means 'Last Updated 05 Mar 2014'? - is this for the file or just the web page?)
http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=R278596&fileId=2731114132&osCode=WW1&productCode=precision-m6500&languageCode=EN&categoryId=VI


ON YOUR RISK: You may try to find this file:
https://www.google.com/#q=%22AMD-APP-SDK-v2.6-Windows-64.exe%22

Check the 'Digital Signature' to make sure the file is not changed (have to be signed by ATI Technologies)

 
831) Message boards : Number crunching : EVGA NVIDIA GTX275 - Crunching Options...???... (Message 1607723)
Posted 1 Dec 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Einstein seems more problematic. It doesn't seem to want to come off of working three WU's at a time... It is now set to "Work", and "Work" is set to run one WU at a time; yet even after hitting Update several times it refuses to come off working three at a time. :-(

If you mean the Einstein online "GPU utilization factor" - it comes into effect only for new Downloaded tasks
832) Message boards : Number crunching : New Number Crunching rig. (Message 1607702)
Posted 1 Dec 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If it was a US company ...

Name it!:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_computer_hardware_manufacturers#Motherboards

Most Motherboards are designed in Taiwan and made in China

ASUS is considered one of the best brands
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asus

ASUS (Taiwan) made the early Motherboards for Dell (American)
("Dell said to Asus. “You can produce our motherboards.” ")
http://www.quora.com/What-is-the-story-of-asus-and-dell

"Dell doesn’t build those computers. It doesn’t ship those computers. It doesn’t service those computers. It simply allows companies in Taiwan to put the name “Dell” on the machines."
833) Message boards : Number crunching : New Number Crunching rig. (Message 1607684)
Posted 1 Dec 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Are you saying that some motherboards might have 3 PCIe slots that might be in fact x16, x16, x16?

You may read this if interested in details:
http://www.enthusiastpc.net/articles/00003/
834) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Boinc v6.10.60 versus v7.4.27 (Message 1607677)
Posted 1 Dec 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I tried BOINCTasks, and I can't get it work Correctly. It can only see the computer it is running on.

On [Computers] tab:
- in 'Computers' column: Copy/Paste the name of the remote computer
- in 'Password' column: Copy/Paste the password found in the file gui_rpc_auth.cfg on the remote computer

Allow BoincTasks in Firewall


On the remote computers:
- create by Notepad file remote_hosts.cfg with contents similar to:

192.168.1.1
192.168.1.2
192.168.1.3
192.168.1.4
192.168.1.5
192.168.1.6
192.168.1.7
192.168.1.8
192.168.1.9

192.168.0.1
192.168.0.2
192.168.0.3
192.168.0.4
192.168.0.5
192.168.0.6
192.168.0.7
192.168.0.8
192.168.0.9

192.168.0.100
192.168.0.101
192.168.0.102
192.168.0.103
192.168.0.104
192.168.0.105
192.168.0.106
192.168.0.107
192.168.0.108
192.168.0.109


'Read config file' or restart BOINC on the remote computer (so it can see the new remote_hosts.cfg and allow the 'main' computer (where BoincTasks is) to connect)

Both .cfg files are in BOINC Data directory
 
835) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Krisiya Todorova   [Signal found but was hidden - just Listen (1st April)     9 | !9 -> ?] (Message 1607605)
Posted 1 Dec 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
Krisiya finished second on Junior Eurovision


                  Promo (English subs)                                                    Live

  



Older:

                  Simply The Best                                      Ain't No Sunshine

  


   Listen (English subs)   (first video ever) (link jumps in the middle)





P.S.
On Junior Eurovision surprise for me was too high vote for Armenia (even my teenage daughter say this song sounds like "summer disco hit that lasts a few weeks") and too low for Russia and Slovenia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junior_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2014#Results

On the separate 'Press vote' Krisiya was placed first by a big margin:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junior_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2014#Press_vote


All 'Promo' and some 'Live' you may watch on this list:
Junior Eurovision Song Contest 2014 (Official Videos)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUoBueatVVKGQpd6JRLvaGGRC7oBF5LuK

This is the Official channel
https://www.youtube.com/user/JuniorEurovision/playlists

 
836) Questions and Answers : Windows : Intel GPU - computation errors (Message 1606408)
Posted 28 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This have to be no surprise for you as it was already mentioned in this thread:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75967&postid=1595520#1595520

The problem may be caused by:
- faulty RAM cell which 'flips' bits from time to time
- too fast (= too low numbers in BIOS) RAM timings (if you did not set timings manually - try to disable in BIOS 'XMP profile' for test)
https://www.google.com/#q=ram+xmp

- bad contact of RAM in the slot (remove the RAM, clean contacts with alcohol, insert in different slot (swap the 2 DIMMs))
837) Message boards : Technical News : I was right... (Nov 24, 2014) (Message 1606404)
Posted 28 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... and now I'm copying everything into the new table. Early estimates are that it will finish on Thursday.

I don't have any experience with database software so don't know if the following is of any help to speed-up the 'things' (and you probably know it all):

PDF: Performance Tuning Tips for IBM Informix Dynamic Server
http://informix-zone.com/files/whitepapers/perf-tuning-tips.pdf

Monitoring Informix Dynamic Server for Higher Performance
http://www.informix.com.ua/articles/monitor/monitor.htm

IBM Informix Dynamic Server Performance Guide
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/idshelp/v10/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.perf.doc/perf194.htm


I used this search:
https://www.google.com/#q=informix+dynamic+server+copy+table+too+slow
838) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Trouble getting GPU units to run on Quadro FX 1600m (Message 1605498)
Posted 26 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The
boinc_installer.exe /v /a c:\temp
xcopy c:\temp\boinctemp\app\*.* e:\boincportable\app\boinc

actually modified the registry.

If you used Sandboxie that would not happen.

I didn't realize Sandboxie was critical to the process (keeping the registry clean), as you mentioned installing to a USB was an option, nor did I realize Sandboxie's wider usefulness. It will have much more use from me now that it's installed.

:) In fact I didn't know what will happen during the 'unpack' by /a (it was the first time I try it)
That's why I used Sandboxie (I have it for years)

I "mentioned installing to a USB" as a minimum precaution in case you don't want to get a new program (Sandboxie)
I see in 'DefaultBox' two directories with names WINDOWS and Windows
- this means the boinc_installer.exe /a (try to) write in directory named Windows
(I don't know if it is the real Windows directory or just another directory named 'Windows' - my real Windows directory is D:\WINDOWS\)


It was surprise for me that it "actually modified the registry" (I didn't expected this so didn't checked this at the time)

Since I still have the files in 'DefaultBox' I checked this now and it is really changed
(for info: the changed parts of the Registry are in ...\DefaultBox\ in file RegHive)


If I run RegEdit the normal way and 'Export...' "BOINC Setup" I get this:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley\BOINC Setup]
"INSTALLDIR"="H:\\BOINC\\"
"SETUPTYPE"="Single"
"LAUNCHPROGRAM"=""
"ENABLELAUNCHATLOGON"="0"
"ENABLESCREENSAVER"=""
"SERVICE_DOMAIN"=""
"SERVICE_USERNAME"=""
"SETUPSTATESTORED"="TRUE"
"MIGRATIONVERSION"=""
"MIGRATION"="TRUE"
"MIGRATIONDIR"="H:\\BOINC\\"
"RETURN_REBOOTREQUESTED"="0"
"REBOOTPROMPT"=""
"RETURN_VALIDATEINSTALL"="1"
"DATADIR"="H:\\BOINC-Data\\"
"ENABLEPROTECTEDAPPLICATIONEXECUTION"=""
"ENABLEUSEBYALLUSERS"=""
"ENABLEPROTECTEDAPPLICATIONEXECUTION2"=""



If I run RegEdit under Sandboxie (in 'DefaultBox') and 'Export...' "BOINC Setup" I get this:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley\BOINC Setup]
"DATADIR"="D:\\boinc_6.10.60_windows_intelx86__unp\\CommonAppData\\BOINC\\"
"ENABLELAUNCHATLOGON"=""
"ENABLEPROTECTEDAPPLICATIONEXECUTION"=""
"ENABLEPROTECTEDAPPLICATIONEXECUTION2"=""
"ENABLESCREENSAVER"="1"
"ENABLEUSEBYALLUSERS"="1"
"INSTALLDIR"="D:\\boinc_6.10.60_windows_intelx86__unp\\program files\\BOINC\\"
"LAUNCHPROGRAM"=""
"MIGRATION"="TRUE"
"MIGRATIONDIR"="H:\\BOINC\\"
"MIGRATIONVERSION"=""
"REBOOTPROMPT"=""
"RETURN_REBOOTREQUESTED"="0"
"RETURN_VALIDATEINSTALL"="1"
"SERVICE_DOMAIN"=""
"SERVICE_USERNAME"=""
"SETUPSTATESTORED"="TRUE"
"SETUPTYPE"="Single"



Is this bug or intended behaviour I don't know


P.S.
You may also like this program: RegFromApp
"RegFromApp monitors the Registry changes made by the application that you selected, and creates a standard RegEdit registration file (.reg) that contains all the Registry changes made by the application."
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/reg_file_from_application.html

Nir Sofer makes many other very-small and useful tools, you may want to check what will be of use for you (I use ~15)
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/index.html
839) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Merging Computers (Message 1605471)
Posted 26 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I don't want to just delete it, because then I lose my credits

You will not lose any credits if you delete computer.

But there is no need:
- It will 'vanish from view' after 30 days since 'Last contact' (will be visible only if you click 'All computers')
- I don't think project have any trouble storing the list of computers (not much space used):

Your highest number computer is ID: 7437252 (and probably is the 'new' you talk about)
Lets say the info for one computer (CPU type, Operating System, BOINC version, ...) stored on the server is 1 KB (~1000 letters/symbols)
All the 7 437 252 computers registered will need 7 437 252 KB = 7 GB (the size of one DL DVD)
If I am wrong and the info is 10 times more - even you can store 70 GB on your own HDD

If you look here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/stats/

- the biggest file is   host.gz   607 MB - and contains info about all the computers at SETI@home
These files from the above link are used by sites like BOINCstats to show everything on their pages (the only info they have is from those a few .gz files)

***

These are 'All computers' of yours:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?sort=rpc_time&rev=0&show_all=1&userid=8961852

The oldest 'Last contact' is '18 Nov 2008' for:
Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.50GHz


I should be able to transfer those credits to the "new" OPR3 computer

Why do you think you "should be able"? (they are in fact different computers)
(only you see your computer names like 'OPR3' (and only I see my computer names, etc.))
840) Message boards : Number crunching : HDD Questions For The Elite - [PROBLEM RETURNED] (Message 1603586)
Posted 21 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
@BilBg: I use TThrottle ... That is why I stated that the i7-860 needs to be monitored continuously to prevent overheating.

Why?
(or you mean "needs to be monitored continuously" by TThrottle and not by you??)


And what's with underlining words like "it" and "app"? Is that supposed to mean something to me? :\

Of course. It shows to readers which word I am talking about


Disconnecting something because it is not performing properly is not the right answer

And your "plan of getting a new MB and CPU is still on, just more urgently than earlier this morning" just because of wrong LED info is "the right answer"?

Nobody said you have to "disconnect something" forever - this was only for test (which you did).
Next step was to suggest where to connect it (and you found the answer yourself following Cosmic_Ocean's "Moved the DVD drive to the second controller on that board and that problem was resolved")


From your first post:
"Any thoughts or suggestions on this would be greatly appreciated. :)"
So - did you used any suggestions or you come to the idea that DVD (or the connection to it) is the culprit (as it turned out to be) by yourself?
841) Message boards : Technical News : Status Update (Nov 19, 2014) (Message 1603571)
Posted 21 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If you don't mind me asking, what version of Informix do you use?


IDS 10.00, unfortunately.

And which Edition?
Some say e.g. "Resource limited to a single CPU core and 1GB of server memory"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Informix_Dynamic_Server
842) Message boards : Number crunching : HDD Questions For The Elite - [PROBLEM RETURNED] (Message 1603519)
Posted 21 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm tired of the i7-860. It has to be monitored continuously to prevent it from overheating.

TThrottle - and no need to 'monitor continuously' by eye
Set the highest temperature you want and CPU will not go over it (auto for BOINC apps, to 'TThrottle' for all other programs/processes make 'Rules')
843) Message boards : Number crunching : HDD Questions For The Elite - [PROBLEM RETURNED] (Message 1603517)
Posted 21 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
2. No need to get so snarky. If you would have read and quoted that WHOLE line of text you would have read that I was going to run with the cable off today. As I am doing right now. See what happens when you do not read everything in a message?

The rest of the line:
"The issue goes away with a re-boot. I'll do it tomorrow when I have more time to deal with it."

Since it comes directly after 'a re-boot' I was thinking it refers to 'a re-boot'
844) Message boards : Number crunching : HDD Questions For The Elite - [PROBLEM RETURNED] (Message 1602948)
Posted 20 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Why would this issue not show up months ago instead of a couple days ago?

It may be bad SATA cable or bad contact of cable 'pins' to DVD or to motherboard.

Some DVD drives (or motherboard controllers?) make the LED always ON when they are opened. (and the device may 'think' it is opened even when you see it as closed)
If you open/close the DVD drive what happens to the LED on the computer case?


I don't have my CD/DVD burner app running. There should be no "pending I/O operation" where the optical drive is concerned.

No need to have any special 'app', Windows itself may poll the DVD from time to time.
In 'Safely remove' icon (on Windows XP) I see my DVD drive listed for 'removal'


If I remove the cable, I will have to wait 6 to 9 hours to see if that will "fix" the issue.

So what? Do you use the DVD every day?


The issue goes away with a re-boot.

On every re-boot or is random?
845) Message boards : Number crunching : HDD Questions For The Elite - [PROBLEM RETURNED] (Message 1602377)
Posted 19 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The LED that you call "HDD light" is active also for DVD drive access.
So check do you have some old disk in the DVD drive.
Open/close the DVD drive.
Or disconnect DVD drive (and, if possible, other 'data' HDDs) to check which one causes this.
846) Message boards : Number crunching : MB temps per HW Monitor (Message 1601341)
Posted 15 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
These maximum temps are shown by HW Monitor for my ASRock Z87 MB:
systin 37C
cputin 28C
auxtin 38C

You can see by yourself - there is something strange: cputin < systin (= CPU "is" cooler than the air inside the computer case)
So I will not believe this program

In SIV look:
- in the center - for CPU cores (internal) temperatures
- in the rightmost - for CPU package (external) temperature

If you have program from motherboard manufacturer (AsRock) - use that to compare the values to other programs
(in fact I had to 'work' with the author of SIV a few years ago.
He wanted a series of screenshots to see the movement of values simultaneously on several monitoring programs (ASRock OCTuner, SIV, HWiNFO32, Everest)
- so he can tweak SIV to my motherboard (which is AsRock from 2006) to show all the right values)


In BIOS - write down the temperatures, then (on idle computer) compare the values shown by programs - they should be nearly the same


By the way: do your new (replacement) PSU have +12 V more stable/high than the one you returned?
847) Message boards : Number crunching : "....Note: CUDA apps are supported only on Windows and Linux; Mac OS X support is coming soon..." (Message 1601338)
Posted 15 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Bilbg,


http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3813190545
...
... you are being warned here http://lunatics.kwsn.net/ --> As always, use these apps AT YOUR OWN RISK.

See your own link (above) - do you see some familiar names?:

If I ask nicely, will you then please stop bashing me and showing me links to earlier posts!?

I didn't show you any links to earlier posts - look the link and click - it is resultid=3813190545 from your post (and is NOT a link to earlier posts)

And in the 'Stderr output' visible are the names of Lunatics, Raistmer, Joe Segur ... ('Stderr output' is written by the app)
(that's to show that you already use the Lunatics "use AT YOUR OWN RISK" apps which are sent to you as stock apps (project accepted them and use them as stock))
848) Message boards : Number crunching : "....Note: CUDA apps are supported only on Windows and Linux; Mac OS X support is coming soon..." (Message 1599815)
Posted 11 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3813190545
...
... you are being warned here http://lunatics.kwsn.net/ --> As always, use these apps AT YOUR OWN RISK.

See your own link (above) - do you see some familiar names?:

AstroPulse v7.04
Linux 64 bit, Rev 2696, OpenCL version by Raistmer, GPU mode
V7, by Raistmer ported to Linux by Lunatics.kwsn.net team.
by Urs Echternacht
ffa threshold mods by Joe Segur
SSE3 dechirping by JDWhale using SSE3 emulation
849) Questions and Answers : Getting started : how to delete a post in a thread? (Message 1599705)
Posted 11 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Just stating which post number it is about isn't helpful without also knowing which thread it's in.

Yes
But since he have a few posts it's (this time) easy to find:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76052&postid=1598107#1598107
850) Questions and Answers : Web site : SETI Credits not linking to BOINC or allprojects.com Databases (Message 1599670)
Posted 11 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
My guess is that the SETI site is the problem, the data not being exported correctly.

No need to guess
Every time you see such problem look here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/stats/

As you see files are from 03-Nov-2014


The same link on other projects:
http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/stats/
http://www.enigmaathome.net/stats/

http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/stats/
http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/stats/
http://aerospaceresearch.net/constellation/stats/

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/stats/
http://climateapps2.oerc.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/stats/
http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/stats/

 
851) Message boards : Technical News : What's happening... (Nov 8, 2014) (Message 1599666)
Posted 11 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You talk about the "increasing the minimum quorum" and "keep all of the results going to the same kind of hardware" effect.

But what about "a mechanism that sends out overflow results for 2nd round of crunching"?
I understand this as:
If validator have 2 "overflow results" ('initial replication') and they match - do not mark the WU as valid - instead send 3-rd task to check is that real or false overflow
852) Message boards : Number crunching : new computer died an early death while installing a 270x (Message 1598925)
Posted 9 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
hm, think, your green arrow goes to pin 21.

Look again ;)




853) Message boards : Number crunching : new computer died an early death while installing a 270x (Message 1598786)
Posted 9 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
! When testing - all power cables have to be disconnected from the PSU
except two:
- "24 pin ATX" - you short pin 16 to left or right pin (both are ground)
- "a molex to a fan" (or to multimeter) - to see if the PSU output is OK

I think it is this pin on your cables but wait confirmation from a few other people:



 
854) Message boards : Number crunching : new computer died an early death while installing a 270x (Message 1598770)
Posted 8 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
More info and pictures:
http://www.ochardware.com/articles/psuvolt/psuvolt2.html


! The Green is #16 - NOT 15 as in HAL's link

16	PS_ON#	Green	Power Supply On


http://pcsupport.about.com/od/insidethepc/a/atx-pinout-24-pin-12v-psu.htm

"16 Power on Green"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATX#Power_supply

Here as PS_ON#
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/ATX_PS_signals.svg/516px-ATX_PS_signals.svg.png
855) Message boards : Number crunching : new computer died an early death while installing a 270x (Message 1598739)
Posted 8 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I plugged a six pin into the PSU the outlet was to a molex. The molex connected to a fan but the fan didn't turn on.

I don't understand
You mean you connected just one cable to the PSU (all other cables disconnected):
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/RM850/images/psu_rear.jpg

... and the other end of this cable is a molex and you connected a fan to that molex?

Of course the fan will not spin (because the PSU is in fact OFF).

To turn the PSU ON you need to short the 'green pin' on the "24 pin ATX" to black (ground, zero)
http://pad2.whstatic.com/images/thumb/9/98/Check-a-Power-Supply-Step-6.jpg/670px-Check-a-Power-Supply-Step-6.jpg

... but all your cables are (?) black which will make this pin harder to distinguish
856) Message boards : Number crunching : new computer died an early death while installing a 270x (Message 1598645)
Posted 8 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Stupid questions but:
- are you sure the power button cable (from the front of the case) is connected to motherboard?

Did you turn OFF the power switch on the back of the PSU before installing the video card?
(and now that power switch is in ON position again)?
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/RM850/images/psu_quarter.jpg

Sometimes even the mains cable of fuse fails (try another mains cable on another wall outlet)

PSU have "Short Circuit Protection", "Over Current Protection", ...
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/RM850/2.html

(to check for fallen metal objects (which may cause Short Circuit) you may slowly turn the case in different directions and listen to some 'drop' noise)


If someone can see internal fuse (in the PSU) on the pictures?
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/RM850/4.html

What is the dark-blue small plate at bottom-right (near the cable end) on this picture?
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/RM850/images/in_top1.jpg

EDIT:
OK, it is not plate but capacitor (previous picture is blurred for me)
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/RM850/images/in_modular_front.jpg
857) Message boards : Number crunching : Need some guidance and advice on optimizing my optimized app. :-) (Message 1597949)
Posted 7 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I need to check who chose SSE2 - was that David, or the installer's CPU detection?

From his post:
"I chose the SSE2 apps on the first page of the installer"


My i5 (gen 2) pre-selects SSE4.2 - I'd expect the same for an i7 (unless it has AVX)

He talks about AstroPulse (for which I think only SSE2 and SSE3 variants are in the installer)
(but he maybe also "chose the SSE2 apps" for MultiBeam?)
858) Message boards : Number crunching : Need some guidance and advice on optimizing my optimized app. :-) (Message 1597945)
Posted 7 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
11/6/2014 5:44:38 PM | | Processor: 8 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7]
11/6/2014 5:44:38 PM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt syscall nx lm vmx smx tm2 pbe
11/6/2014 5:44:38 PM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Home Premium x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)

But why do you choose SSE2 for this CPU - it have SSE3 (= pni) (else how do you think it may have the next SSSE3 ?)
859) Message boards : Number crunching : Need some guidance and advice on optimizing my optimized app. :-) (Message 1597941)
Posted 7 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Seems to be:
BUG in Lunatics_Win64_v0.43a_setup.exe

From AP7_win_x64_SSE2_CPU.aistub

<app_info>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v7</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AP7_win_x64_SSE3_CPU_r2672.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
860) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Boinc version change 7.4.22 to 7.4.26 - no GPU ? (Message 1597935)
Posted 7 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
And why exactly do you need/want "newest Graphic drivers" on old GPUs?

NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT (512MB) driver: 340.52
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6819491

NVIDIA GeForce G 105M (512MB) driver: 340.52
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5168264

For old GPUs the best driver is 266.58
861) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : display driver has failed and restarted error (Message 1597929)
Posted 7 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I really don't know if stock applications users have "DOCS subdirectory" of if they receive any ReadMe files.

But I know where you can get them:

If you go here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76035&postid=1596403#1596403

... follow the link to 'Lunatics main download area' and get the installer file
(Lunatics_Win32_v0.43a_setup.exe or Lunatics_Win64_v0.43a_setup.exe)

... then you may use 7-Zip
http://www.7-zip.org/

... to extract any file from the Lunatics installer (it have inside numerous .exe .dll .txt and other files)
862) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : display driver has failed and restarted error (Message 1597759)
Posted 6 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have the same error with an AMD 7970.
...
Running driver version 13.1

As TBar say - Catalyst 13.1 is bad:
"Cat 13.1 has APP runtime 1084.4 compiler Bug. Do not use for SETI@home v7"
http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet.htm

(the above page have links "To download ATI PCIe drivers")

P.S.
No need to do steps after:
"But these drivers can be used still if the kernels binaries are precompiled under an older Catalyst driver"
Just update Catalyst (I'm not sure which version is best for your GPU and OS, ask TBar :) )
863) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.43a Maintenance Release (Message 1597591)
Posted 6 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Again not clear

Do you use app_config.xml for any project and what are its/their contents?
864) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : display driver has failed and restarted error (Message 1597581)
Posted 6 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The only thing I can find is the trdelay in my registry

As already noted - NONE of these values exist in the Registry, even TdrDelay do not exist until you create it. (manually or running a .reg file)

And it's TdrDelay - not trdelay nor tdrdelay
(I'm not sure cASe mattERs but it's best to Copy/Paste it from Microsoft article: TdrDelay TdrLevel)


... so what do you suggest?

Reboot after any change to these values? (so they take effect)

Read files in <BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\docs\ for available switches "to reduce GUI lags or to prevent driver restarts"
e.g. "If you experience screen lags reduce unroll factor and ffa_block_fetch value."

Ask in Number Crunching for what and how to do (e.g. which switches to use and where to put them)

When asking specify which computer you talk about ("DELL" means nothing - give link or ID#)
Give link to this thread;
Stress that you aim for low lag and no driver restarts (else most people tend to think you want highest performance)


e.g. for low lag I use:
-cpu_lock -unroll 2

in:
ap_cmdline_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI.txt


***

And about this computer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5156032

"NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GT (1024MB) driver: 340.52"

Read:
"@Pre-FERMI nVidia GPU users: Important warning"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75633
865) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : display driver has failed and restarted error (Message 1597550)
Posted 6 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
From what I was reading the options given were to set tdrdelay to 8 for more time or 0 to turn it off and quit the detection.

Where did you read such thing?
Copy/Paste the "reading" and/or give the link.
(in Microsoft article you'll not see this)
866) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.43a Maintenance Release (Message 1597547)
Posted 6 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It's not clear what you say, but you have now only tasks for GPU (on this project):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7375043&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1&appid=
867) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : display driver has failed and restarted error (Message 1597515)
Posted 6 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So you try TdrDelay=0 ?? - for me the result of this will be 'unknown'

Either:
- driver will fail very often
- Windows will ignore the value as 'stupid'
868) Message boards : Number crunching : Need some guidance and advice on optimizing my optimized app. :-) (Message 1597509)
Posted 6 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... or maybe it's a result of me disabling the txt file with the switches in it.

How do you "disable the txt file"?

Do you delete the file (WRONG) or do you delete the contents (OK) so the file is empty?
869) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.43a Maintenance Release (Message 1597503)
Posted 6 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
I just re-Uploaded the 4 files so we have fresh results:
(v0.43 were 20 days old, v0.43a - 1 day old)

Lunatics_Win32_v0.43_setup.exe
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/f9d0f893addaf1770119bd7eedfc368b526eacaf4672c266db7d950041b6acf5/analysis/1415242159/

Lunatics_Win64_v0.43_setup.exe
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/9b17f92a69d116afd3b723c5dc79ed57b9aefe847bdbcf1761f034656906ffca/analysis/1415242219/


Lunatics_Win32_v0.43a_setup.exe
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/a28bae036aa64d9c59c14fc20d3c9a4ee1b6acfd996a8e0932ad98f690b8ad32/analysis/1415242288/

Lunatics_Win64_v0.43a_setup.exe
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/68df9f695e36c1803c92a40f09bf17e0ce5182aaa2ab34de702a3abb10fd2a57/analysis/1415242340/


Avast is on 2 of them
 
870) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : display driver has failed and restarted error (Message 1596947)
Posted 4 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff569918%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

"ValueData : TdrLevelOff (0) - Detection disabled"

TdrLevel can be set to 0 to Disable 'Timeout Detection and Recovery (TDR)' altogether

***

TdrLevel have to not exist in Registry or be set to 3 (default) to enable usage of TdrDelay

***

So use either (not both):

TdrLevel=0
or
TdrDelay=8

***

If you set TdrLevel=0 "and still get the display driver has failed" something is wrong (e.g. TdrLevel was not set in the proper place in the Registry or is not REG_DWORD)

Did you reboot? (I think these values are not used until reboot)

 
871) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : display driver has failed and restarted error (Message 1596772)
Posted 4 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So finally - what did you set and to what value
872) Questions and Answers : Getting started : How to Debug upload problem?? (Message 1596725)
Posted 4 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This time it have to be something very near to servers or the servers themselves.

I tried to redirect my traffic from Bulgaria through VPN to Los Angeles 23.19.26.250 (so the servers think I'm in Los Angeles) but this didn't help
http://www.securitykiss.com/
873) Questions and Answers : Windows : Intel GPU - computation errors (Message 1596695)
Posted 3 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
"De uitgebreide kenmerken zijn inconsistent" = "The extended attributes are inconsistent"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3812624172

This is conversation from 2010 but see if anything helpful:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-performance/extended-attributes-are-inconsistent/613a4663-9e0c-4dd0-b7df-f2a8ba15fdd0

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_update/the-extended-attributes-are-inconsistent-error/77a7a6da-b851-4eee-964a-dd58fc86f406

This I think is in your language (I'm not at all sure it is relevant)
http://answers.microsoft.com/nl-nl/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_install/windows-7-ultimate-weigert-nieuwe-programmas-te/96cb9e8d-99fc-4a2b-9d78-5827a05522c1

(I'm really shooting in the dark)

***

Do you use fast-user-switching?
Do you really need BOINC installed as service? (IIRC you have BOINC installed as service)
874) Questions and Answers : Windows : Intel GPU - computation errors (Message 1596691)
Posted 3 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Yes sir, bios 2507 and the latest updates are downloaded and installed.

Already was bios 2507 or you now updated to 2507 ?


Is this still the latest about installing the luncatics package ?
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/625171-Instructions-for-Installing-and-Optimizing-BOINC-for-Windows

:)) No, this is from 2009 on some 'third-or-fifth-party' site ;)

This is from today:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76035&postid=1596403#1596403


What about my second project, Rosetta@Home if I install the lunatics package ?

All changes are only in SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)
875) Questions and Answers : Windows : Intel GPU - computation errors (Message 1596507)
Posted 3 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So TJMax looks to be 97°C

***

Do you know which version of BIOS you have? (is it 2507)
(shown e.g. by CPU-Z and SIV -> Machine, or (while you reboot) by the BIOS itself)

Another user pointed me that there are several updates for your MB BIOS aimed to:
"Improve System performance, Improve system stability, Enhance compatibility"

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z97P/HelpDesk_Download/

(choose Windows 7, then BIOS)

The last is:
Z97-P BIOS 2507
2014/10/24
876) Questions and Answers : Windows : Intel GPU - computation errors (Message 1596427)
Posted 3 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Yes but no crasches detected yet

Don't you know you can [Edit] your posts in one hour period?
(I had hard time to realize you added the above)
877) Questions and Answers : Windows : Intel GPU - computation errors (Message 1596426)
Posted 3 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
With the Boinc application it won't go up that high, max temp around 40°C

Do you mean "With the SETI@home application"? (just BOINC with no running projects' applications is idle computer)


I know these programs, will use them when needed

So you will not know till then what is TJMax (or you know it from somewhere else?)
TJMax is the max core temperature before CPU "start to thermal throttle"


Yes, I use Plex.tv mediaserver, when used with my Xbox One it has to transcode X264 streams

Define "transcode"
If this is only decode - this is light (any player do it)
If this is encode by x264 - this library/codec really heats
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X264

(if "Plex.tv mediaserver" uses other library/codec to encode in "H.264/MPEG-4 AVC format" - I can't know how optimized it is)
878) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : display driver has failed and restarted error (Message 1596421)
Posted 3 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The same info in very short:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74843&postid=1553166#1553166
879) Message boards : Number crunching : command line option for amd? (Message 1596397)
Posted 3 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
-period_iterations_num N

: Splits single PulseFind kernel call to N calls for longest PulseFind calls.
Can be used to reduce GUI lags or to prevent driver restarts.
Can affect performance. Experimentation required.
Default value for v6/v7 task is N=20
N should be positive integer.
If you experience screen lags or driver restarts increase -period_iterations_num


On my AMD Radeon HD 6570 - I feel too much Desktop lag even with:
-period_iterations_num 200

... so I don't run MultiBeam on it

If you try -period_iterations_num 10 this will be even more lag than the default

(Sten-Arne: "using 10 and no lag" is for high-end GPU with "compute units: 20"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3813645554
)
880) Message boards : Number crunching : command line option for amd? (Message 1596080)
Posted 2 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
? So you want to put something in:
mb_cmdline_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5.txt

Look in:
<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\docs\

for:
MultiBeam_OpenCL_ReadMe.txt

to see the available switches


PS. I am not doing AP's anymore. Doesn't work right on the new card.

Every computer can have its own Settings/apps/...
881) Message boards : Number crunching : command line option for amd? (Message 1596065)
Posted 2 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
-unroll 7 -oclFFT_plan 256 16 256 -ffa_block 4096 -ffa_block_fetch 2048

is the amd command line I am using for a 6570 on MB v7.

I hope you mean AP v7
MB v7 don't have -unroll ...
882) Message boards : Number crunching : MB temps per HW Monitor (Message 1596050)
Posted 2 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The 75ºC is probably a null sensor that HWMonitor is reading. Polling data in a sensor field when there is no sensor connected.

I think the same.
If this is always 75ºC (or jumps to 0 or strange values like -128°C)
despite if the computer is idle or loaded and the weather changes
- there is no real sensor connected to the pins of the sensor chip
883) Questions and Answers : Windows : Intel GPU - computation errors (Message 1595966)
Posted 2 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Ok, 30 min LinX with more RAM, max temp with stock cooler +/- 80º Celcius (176.00ºF).

I had hint from another user that 80°C may be too high a core temperature for this CPU

http://ark.intel.com/products/80816/Intel-Core-i5-4590S-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_70-GHz

Intel defines max TCASE: "Case Temperature is the maximum temperature allowed at the processor Integrated Heat Spreader (IHS)"
(this is the top-center of CPU package)

For your CPU max TCASE is 71.35°C

***

Instead of using trial version of this monitoring program (which hides some values) there are free alternatives which don't hide anything.

Real Temp
http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/

In this look at "Distance to TJMax" on loaded CPU

"As your CPU heats up, your Distance to TJMax will decrease. If it reaches zero, your processor will start to thermal throttle or slow down so maximizing your distance away from TJMax will help your computer run at full speed and more reliably too."


SIV - System Information Viewer
http://rh-software.com/

- shows info for everything ;)

Get siv.zip , unpack and run the .exe
"You should use SIV32X.exe on 32-bit Windows x86 and SIV64X.exe on 64-bit Windows x64"

***

Do you have any other program that crash or hang?
Which other programs are used often on this computer?
Any 'heavy'? (e.g. long video compression/encoding by x264)

If not - I wonder if Asteroids@home CPU apps will also crash:
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/index.php

Asteroids@home uses very little HDD space and RAM but the code is highly optimized - they heat my AMD CPU more than SETI@home apps
The run time is similar to SETI@home v7
(I compare Asteroids@home stock CPU apps (SSE2 SSE3) against SETI@home optimized SSE3 app)
884) Questions and Answers : Windows : Intel GPU - computation errors (Message 1595804)
Posted 2 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
Hm, happens again but not for all tasks:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7417012&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=

- It may be BOINC for some reason killing apps, so you may try the latest 'Development version' 7.4.26
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php


- It may also be broken app (corrupted .exe / .dll file)

If you send every .exe and .dll found in SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\) to:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/

... and you are the first to send it - your file is probably corrupted
(usually you'll see "this file was already scanned")


If you want to get 'fresh' apps - you may 'Reset' the project.
Reset will delete all files (including tasks) in SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)
so you may want first to finish started tasks, upload and report them.

Another option for 'fresh' apps is to use the installer that puts optimized apps (which are also ~50% faster for CPU apps)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75863&postid=1586215#1586215
(I have to admit - I didn't tested the last/current versions of stock and optimized apps to see if they are '50% faster' but they are faster for sure)

- It may also be the Antivirus locking some files during 'real-time scan'
 
885) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Boinc version change 7.4.22 to 7.4.26 - no GPU ? (Message 1595801)
Posted 2 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Yes, this is new change in BOINC to disallow usage of old GPUs (Compute Capability <2.0) with driver 340.52++
This combination leads to compute errors (wrong computing)

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5168264

"NVIDIA GeForce G 105M (512MB) driver: 340.52"

Your GPU have Compute Capability 1.1
https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-gpus


Read "@Pre-FERMI nVidia GPU users: Important warning":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75633

And this post about the BOINC change:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75633&postid=1593831#1593831
886) Questions and Answers : Windows : Intel GPU - computation errors (Message 1595520)
Posted 1 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Test the computer with Linpack (which is Intel made program)

LinX - The simpliest Linpack interface (GUI)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?201670-LinX-A-simple-Linpack-interface

Be warned: Linpack makes a heavy load on CPU - be prepared to watch the CPU temperature
LinX / Linpack tests CPU, RAM, bus between CPU and RAM, PSU (heavy load on CPU makes load on PSU +12 V)


Haha, funny...I ran a Asus system (stress test) benchmark yesterday evenening, no errors.

Never heard of the LinX program but I downloaded the latest version and tried it a few times, check the img.

http://s2.postimg.org/owycdxgu1/uitkomst_Lin_X1.jpg

Your computer have 'Memory 8069.23 MB'
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7417012

The above test was on less than 50% of RAM for only 5 minutes

Can you:
- exit all possible programs (to free max RAM)
- run test for 30-60 minutes (again: watch the CPU temperature (if your cooling is not enough))
(run the test on the as-is-now computer)

***

"exit code -1073741819 (0xc0000005)" in random places show some subtle instability that do not manifest every time.

The problem may be caused by:
- faulty RAM cell which 'flips' bits from time to time
- too fast (= too low numbers in BIOS) RAM timings (if you did not set timings manually - try to disable in BIOS 'XMP profile' for test)
https://www.google.com/#q=ram+xmp

- bad contact of RAM in the slot (remove the RAM, clean contacts with alcohol, insert in different slot (swap the 2 DIMMs))

- CPU overclock
- CPU overheat

- unstable voltage from PSU +12 V
- bad contact of cables from PSU to MB
...
887) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Using on board graphics as well as a card? (Message 1595510)
Posted 1 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
No, the reason is here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75800&postid=1584044#1584044
888) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Trouble getting GPU units to run on Quadro FX 1600m (Message 1595502)
Posted 1 Nov 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The point of this endeavor is to have no information stored in the registry so I can multi-boot OS, move the USB stick installation to another machine or upgrade to any new future OS while needing to reinstall the least possible applications.

I wonder how you will manage to "multi-boot OS" between Windows and Linux?

Linux can't run the .exe files (boinc.exe, applications.exe)
Do you use emulator (Wine) or change apps (semi)manually?
If you change apps - the checkpoints may be not compatible.
(I almost don't know Linux)

Also on "another machine" with different CPU/GPU the same apps may not work even on Windows.


The
boinc_installer.exe /v /a c:\temp
xcopy c:\temp\boinctemp\app\*.* e:\boincportable\app\boinc

actually modified the registry.

If you used Sandboxie that would not happen.

boinc_installer (any program) will think it succeeded to change files and/or modify the registry
but in fact will modify objects only in Sandboxie directory.
889) Message boards : Number crunching : lunatics installation effects on other projects? (Message 1594763)
Posted 31 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
That other discussion is on the opposite effect,
"that using the iGPU on Haswell ... slowed CPU processing significantly"
890) Questions and Answers : Windows : Intel GPU - computation errors (Message 1594720)
Posted 31 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Test the computer with Linpack (which is Intel made program)

LinX - The simpliest Linpack interface (GUI)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?201670-LinX-A-simple-Linpack-interface

Be warned: Linpack makes a heavy load on CPU - be prepared to watch the CPU temperature
LinX / Linpack tests CPU, RAM, bus between CPU and RAM, PSU (heavy load on CPU makes load on PSU +12 V)
891) Message boards : Number crunching : lunatics installation effects on other projects? (Message 1594427)
Posted 30 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I've had that happen occasionally. Does it hurt anything? Just Boinc allocating resources as it sees fit, right?

It does not "hurt", only affects Run times
Unless driver crash or the GPU is too weak to be used simultaneously for 2 GPU apps from 2 different projects.
If no errors happen it's safe.
892) Questions and Answers : Windows : Window resizing BAM (Message 1594415)
Posted 30 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Ask the authors (not many people here use BAM)
http://boincstats.com/en/bam/
893) Questions and Answers : Windows : Intel GPU - computation errors (Message 1594406)
Posted 30 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have decided not to use the lunatics application, I don't want third party software on my system.

Haha (as you say) - for your info: the GPU apps used now as stock are Lunatics apps (check in stderr.txt)


The developers of the Boinc project ...

There is no such thing as "the Boinc project"
894) Questions and Answers : Windows : Astropulse problem (Message 1594396)
Posted 30 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Unless...you only crunch the astropulses on the CPU and don't crunch on the graphic card.

Not wright - if he will have running on the CPU AstroPulse task he will see the graphics for that task (no matter if another task is running on the GPU)

Here, on SETI@home, only the CPU applications (SETI@home v7 CPU and AstroPulse v7 CPU) have graphics part (another .exe)
I talk about stock (from the server) applications, not the optimized ('Lunatics')
895) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Extreme long remaining time for two wu's (Message 1593818)
Posted 29 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Do you have a tool to monitor CPU/GPU load, temperature, ...?
(because I'm almost sure this task didn't load the GPU at all - after driver 'recovery' the OpenCL part do not work)

Try SIV - System Information Viewer
http://rh-software.com/

Get siv.zip , unpack and run the exe (it have 32 & 64 bit exe) - no install
896) Message boards : Number crunching : resetting memory clock for amd r9 280x (Message 1593807)
Posted 29 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Use only one program to change those GPU Settings (else they will fight - like using two wheels in the same car to turn left/right)

If you do changes in MSI Afterburner then uncheck 'Enable Graphics OverDrive' on this CCC page you posted (then use this page only to monitor, not to change)
897) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.43 Release Notes (Message 1593796)
Posted 29 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
That is, when I use RegEdit to look at TdrDelay, I noticed that my Windows doesn't have most of the other Tdr related variables listed in the articles.

It should have None - all "Tdr related variables" do not exist in any Windows, they have to be created if you want to change the default values.
(normally (= when "Tdr related variables" are not in Registry) Windows uses defaults which are probably hard-coded in some exe/dll)
898) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Extreme long remaining time for two wu's (Message 1593788)
Posted 29 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This is just wrong estimation.
Do you see how it drops fast? (e.g. a few hours for a few minutes)
If "it's getting longer" - reboot the computer (driver may be in 'unstable state' - e.g. after 'recovery')

You use BOINC 7.4.12 'Development version' (Beta), try to update to 7.4.22
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php
899) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Trouble getting GPU units to run on Quadro FX 1600m (Message 1593783)
Posted 29 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
copied the entire contents over to the portable directories and that failed to execute.

I don't know the structure of "portable directories"
I hope they are Not in \Program Files\ - especially the BOINC Data directory
Also some say you may have trouble if BOINC Data directory is inside BOINC Program directory

"failed to execute" - Which .exe? What error?


Check INSTALLDIR and DATADIR in your Registry:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley\BOINC Setup]
"INSTALLDIR"="H:\\BOINC\\"
"SETUPTYPE"="Single"
"LAUNCHPROGRAM"=""
"ENABLELAUNCHATLOGON"="0"
"ENABLESCREENSAVER"=""
"SERVICE_DOMAIN"=""
"SERVICE_USERNAME"=""
"SETUPSTATESTORED"="TRUE"
"MIGRATIONVERSION"=""
"MIGRATION"="TRUE"
"MIGRATIONDIR"="H:\\BOINC\\"
"RETURN_REBOOTREQUESTED"="0"
"REBOOTPROMPT"=""
"RETURN_VALIDATEINSTALL"="1"
"DATADIR"="H:\\BOINC-Data\\"
"ENABLEPROTECTEDAPPLICATIONEXECUTION"=""
"ENABLEUSEBYALLUSERS"=""
"ENABLEPROTECTEDAPPLICATIONEXECUTION2"=""


The other place is for GUI and is not really important:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley\BOINC Manager]
900) Message boards : Number crunching : display driver stopped and now wu is stalled (Message 1593499)
Posted 28 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The only two values that I see (for now) as some trouble:

A) PSU +5.04 +11.67

I'm not sure if +11.67 is in the safe margin for +12 V from PSU
(my show PSU +4.90 +12.30)
Check also this value when computer is idle.


B) Row Cycle Time (tRC) 37 1T
This is about system RAM
1T is the 'Command Rate (CR)'

If the computer have habit to hang or crash - change in BIOS - in RAM Settings/Timings:
Command Rate (CR)     2T


P.S.
Next time you may use Alt+PrintScreen to copy only the active window
(now you used only PrintScreen and then needed to cut/crop the picture)
901) Message boards : Number crunching : lunatics installation effects on other projects? (Message 1593495)
Posted 28 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
No, all the files added/changed by Lunatics installer are in SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)

The only "adverse effect" may be if you run both apps at the same time and you set both SETI@home and Einstein to run on 0.5 GPU (2 tasks/GPU)
In this case it may happen one SETI@home + one Einstein tasks to run on the GPU at the same time.
902) Message boards : Number crunching : "Zombie" AP tasks - still alive in AP v7 (Message 1593488)
Posted 28 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Apps detect at the start if they are "running in offline test mode"

Look in your 'Testdatas' and you will see:
"Can't open init data file - running in standalone mode"
or
"Can't set up shared mem: -1. Will run in standalone mode."
903) Message boards : Number crunching : display driver stopped and now wu is stalled (Message 1593461)
Posted 28 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
About "those 30 pulse Overflows are usually associated with Overheating or Overclocking"
it may help if you post what you see in SIV, like this:
      Memory       GPU     82% GPU Utilisation Volts  Temp          Fans
GPU-0 1.05GHz P2   800MHz  Activity 82%        1.06   43°C          15%


Use the [Copy] button in SIV, Paste in Notepad and then Copy only the lines about the GPU
904) Message boards : Number crunching : display driver stopped and now wu is stalled (Message 1593411)
Posted 28 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... Other people saw it as well,
;) And when we will be near of fixing all the glitches and the experiment is almost over - beware, Vogons are coming ...

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75945&postid=1591469

:) I was not referring to any problem by this

It was just funny (maybe) response to Richard's "Didn't you know - the whole of BOINC and SETI is psychological gameplay, designed by the white mice as an experiment on the human race?"

Both "white mice" and "Vogons" are from "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vogon
905) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.43 Release Notes (Message 1593404)
Posted 28 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Task 3804666490 is repeatedly hanging up on my Toshiba Laptop's GPU at the 11.865% mark. When this happens my screen flickers momentarily and I get a message that says the display driver stopped responding and has recovered.

The same also discussed here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75947&postid=1590758#1590758
906) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : display driver has failed and restarted error (Message 1593378)
Posted 28 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... I am running the seti program...

You are Not "running the seti program" and you never did (from this account):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?sort=rpc_time&rev=0&show_all=1&userid=10061048

And "amh 6800hd radion card" do not exist on the market

What exist are AMD Radeon HD 6850 / 6870
http://www.amd.com/en-gb/products/graphics/desktop/6000/6850
http://www.amd.com/en-gb/products/graphics/desktop/6000/6870
907) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Trouble getting GPU units to run on Quadro FX 1600m (Message 1593207)
Posted 28 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
EDIT: I tried it and it threw 30+ registry entries in and won't work under the portable apps folder structure. When I reboot into Linux/WINE or another Windows OS then the BOINC client isn't going to fire up and work immediately and I'm sick of reinstalling software every time I swap OS's.
Have to see about getting BOINC updating over at PortableApps.com

Well, you didn't say you use BOINC in this way - using the same directory/files in multi-boot system.
I used this in the past between Vista 32 bit and Windows XP - BOINC is installed on Vista and registry entries transferred to XP

BOINC installer can be unpacked by:
boinc_X.XX.XX_windows_intelx86.exe /a

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Creating_custom_installers

Then you may rename or move the .exe/.dll files you use now and put the new files manually
(You may need to set some permissions manually)


I just tested this 'unpack' under Sandboxie
http://www.sandboxie.com/

(if you don't use Sandboxie I suggest you unpack to USB flash drive)











 
908) Message boards : Number crunching : iGPU tuning (Message 1593170)
Posted 27 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Are there tools to monitor cache thrashing or memory bus saturation?

You may try PerfMonitor
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/perfmonitor2.html
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/perfmonitor.html
909) Message boards : Number crunching : Crashes Windows desktop (Message 1593145)
Posted 27 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What about other heavy loads:

LinX (Linpack) for CPU
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?201670-LinX-A-simple-Linpack-interface

FurMark / GPU Caps Viewer 'Demos' for GPU
http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/
http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/


Do they also "kill everything"?
910) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Trouble getting GPU units to run on Quadro FX 1600m (Message 1593137)
Posted 27 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Also it seems you have issues with your BOINC installation (directory/files permissions)
or with your Antivirus (it may block execution of apps)

"CreateProcess() failed - Access is denied." (on 2 of your computers)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3796141759
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3797738440
911) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Trouble getting GPU units to run on Quadro FX 1600m (Message 1593134)
Posted 27 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Try 266.45
It will have low CPU usage especially for AstroPulse OpenCL

I don't know if some "list of blacklisted drivers" is published somewhere.
912) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Trouble getting GPU units to run on Quadro FX 1600m (Message 1593126)
Posted 27 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Oh, and I seriously *HATE* that the message tab has been moved to an Event log that takes extra key strokes and doesn't dock with the main page. That alone was enough to put me back from 7.2 after trying it yesterday.

Then get BOINC 6.10.60 which is the last from 6.10.x and have the same look as 6.10.17
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_6.10.60_windows_intelx86.exe
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_6.10.60_windows_x86_64.exe
913) Message boards : Number crunching : gpu tasks - don't got any (Message 1591469)
Posted 24 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
;) And when we will be near of fixing all the glitches and the experiment is almost over - beware, Vogons are coming ...
914) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.43 Release Notes (Message 1591443)
Posted 24 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I think this is host dependend.

I belive is not, why? it´s happening on a totaly diferent OS & GPU, the same happening on a 2x690 who runs Win Server. The only thing they have in common is they use the same old I5 CPU.

After few test i made here remotely, i could confirm the problem is aparently related to the size of the -ffa_block, a 4096 block makes some WU ussing 150MB, larger sizes huge increase the memory usage, a 8192 makes the WU uses about 250MB and so on, the 1GB apears when you use a 16k block size.

For some reason who i cant understand until now, my hosts simply apears to ignore the -oclfft_plan 256 16 256 switch.


-oclFFT_plan is case sensitive.
Make sure FFT is upper case or just snip it from the read me.
-use_sleep -unroll 16 -oclFFT_plan 256 16 256 -ffa_fetch 8192 -ffa_fetch_block 4096-tune 1 64 4 1 -tune 2 64 4 1


You don't follow your own advice ;)
You often make the typo "ffa_fetch"/"ffa_fetch_block" instead of ffa_block/ffa_block_fetch
(I can't believe you type such a long line of switches, why not copy from your working ap_cmdline*.txt file? (and just change numbers if needed))

But if app ignores -oclfft_plan it will probably safely ignore also ffa_fetch/ffa_fetch_block

?
915) Message boards : Number crunching : blanked AP tasks, Part II (Message 1590799)
Posted 23 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Well, it is rare occurrence of 'lucky' WU ;)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1621822108
916) Message boards : Number crunching : gpu tasks - don't got any (Message 1590773)
Posted 23 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
How do you find a particular task in the slots file. You have to go thru looking in each slot to fine it?

In BOINC Manager select the task
- click button [Properties] at left
- almost at bottom look for 'slots/X'

Or in BoincTasks for the same info - Right-Click the task -> Properties
 
917) Message boards : Number crunching : display driver stopped and now wu is stalled (Message 1590768)
Posted 23 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
TdrDelay:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74843&postid=1553166#1553166
918) Message boards : Number crunching : gpu tasks - don't got any (Message 1590708)
Posted 23 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Shouldn't the App Rename the New Bin files to the New Driver?

No, only new app version is generating new binaries.

Seems the 'new' apps (don't know since which version) makes new .bin for different driver:

My files:
AstroPulse_Kernels_r2690.cl_Turks.bin_V7_TWIN_FFA_CAL141646
AP_clFFTplan_Turks_32768_gr64_lr8_wg256_tw0_r2690.bin_CAL141646


But maybe if CAL version do not change (or not exist?) in new drivers this versioning do not happen - i.e. always CAL141848
919) Message boards : Number crunching : Random Restarts of Astropulses (Message 1590689)
Posted 23 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Does SIV allow you to see how much memory is being used?

No

Just use Windows Task Manager or Process Explorer to see the current use

BoincTasks also show this - on Tasks and History tabs (you need to enable the columns)

Especially the History tab is useful as it shows the peak RAM usage during the task run (and you can check what was it for past tasks)
920) Message boards : Number crunching : gpu tasks - don't got any (Message 1590685)
Posted 23 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... You did restart the task right? Select All the GPU tasks, Suspend them, count to 10, then Resume them.

Easier to do the same:
'Snooze GPU'
Wait 5-10 seconds
un- 'Snooze GPU'
921) Message boards : Number crunching : gpu tasks - don't got any (Message 1590673)
Posted 23 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
OK, if you later need it:

<app_config>

   <app>
      <name>setiathome_v7</name>
      <gpu_versions>
         <gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
         <cpu_usage>0.04</cpu_usage>
      </gpu_versions>
   </app>

   <app>
      <name>astropulse_v6</name>
      <gpu_versions>
         <gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
         <cpu_usage>1</cpu_usage>
      </gpu_versions>
   </app>

   <app>
      <name>astropulse_v7</name>
      <gpu_versions>
         <gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
         <cpu_usage>0.5</cpu_usage>
      </gpu_versions>
   </app>

</app_config>
922) Message boards : Number crunching : gpu tasks - don't got any (Message 1590670)
Posted 23 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... in app_config. I forget how I used to write that.

Don't you have app_config.xml used on another computer?
923) Message boards : Number crunching : gpu tasks - don't got any (Message 1590667)
Posted 23 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
No - you have now 'AstroPulse v7 Anonymous platform (ATI GPU)' tasks
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7413477&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=20
924) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.43 Release Notes (Message 1590266)
Posted 22 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The one in the Joe's post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75863&postid=1589451#1589451

... is also still on the server:
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/143/ap_28jn14aa_B5_P1_00055_20141018_06043.wu
925) Message boards : Number crunching : not getting jobs from SETI (Message 1590129)
Posted 22 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You have CPU work on:
http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/results.php?hostid=1642278
http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/results.php?hostid=11238508&offset=0&show_names=1&state=1&appid=0

And yes (as already noted) - if you expect/want to do AstroPulse v7 on the GPU it will not happen with the combination 'NVIDIA GeForce GT 220 (1024MB) driver: 340.52'

See the new plan_class "cuda_opencl_cc1" / "opencl_nvidia_cc1"
- it is to avoid computers running 'old' NVIDIA GPUs with 'compute capability' 1.x + 'new' drivers 340.52+ to get tasks
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php
926) Message boards : Number crunching : Performance issue, 18+ hours for wu. (Message 1590124)
Posted 22 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
That surprizes me, my older xp w/ 2 GB computer years ago ran these, it wasn't a fast computer.

How many "years ago"?
It was probably in 2007 or 2008 on "mobile AMD Athlon(tm) XP2200+":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?sort=rpc_time&rev=0&show_all=1&userid=764760


There were IIRC at least 2 changes that involve "bigger search"
- the SETI@home Enhanced (v6) WUs changed to do 'more sensitive' search by a factor of two
- SETI@home v7 adds Autocorrelation search
'Autocorr count: 1' on your task:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3791591911

https://www.google.com/#q=autocorrelation
927) Message boards : Number crunching : The GTX750(Ti) Thread (Message 1590089)
Posted 22 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
Don't mind comparisons 'ref-AP6' vs 'result-2-AP7' - I think they will always be incompatible (will be just a coincidence if they match)

'FUDGE' is % of allowed "uncertainty" (I think it is 1% - THRESHOLD_FUDGE = 1.01)

From ap_validate_inc.h (in ...\APbench\Tools\rescmpAP\src.zip\)
/* don't consider mismatches between pulses of power below
 * threshold*THRESHOLD_FUDGE as errors.*/
static const float THRESHOLD_FUDGE = 1.01f;


At the end of the test there will be file in ...\APbench\Testdatas\ with a name like:
ComputerName-20140802-0548-benchAP.txt

Look for 'Quick timetable' at bottom of that file.
 
928) Message boards : Number crunching : The GTX750(Ti) Thread (Message 1590085)
Posted 22 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The CPU test was 74 seconds with the GPU tests around 5 secs.

:) "with WU : #ap_genwis.dat" is Not CPU/GPU test - it is only to generate .bin/.wisdom files (to be used in next real runs)
929) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Multiplicity and Boinc (Message 1589736)
Posted 21 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... keeps the computer from being considered idle...

And why don't you set BOINC to run apps Always?
930) Message boards : Number crunching : Need help with fan hookup (Message 1589331)
Posted 20 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
https://www.google.com/#q=fan+y+splitter

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/270219-31-cable-splitter#4877290
931) Message boards : Number crunching : Oddly long AP7 wu's? (Message 1589264)
Posted 20 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
That's because that is my mother's computer (she's in another town) ...

Then you both may find this handy:
http://www.teamviewer.com/
932) Message boards : Technical News : Back on line after some repairs... (Jul 24 2014) (Message 1589241)
Posted 20 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Is there anything at all that can be done about the heat that SETI creates?

You may:
- use better cooling
- use TThrottle


It is the application that generates the heat and you are one of the programming gurus so fix it already!

There is nothing to "fix" - any optimized computing will heat the computing device (CPU/GPU/...)

Try to encode a video in AVC (x264 codec)
http://avidemux.sourceforge.net/

Try a 'heavy' game

Try Linpack
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?201670-LinX-A-simple-Linpack-interface

(all the above will heat)
933) Message boards : Number crunching : Random Restarts of Astropulses (Message 1589203)
Posted 20 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I just noticed an unusual thing. I recently changed my setting to run 4 APs per GPU on the GTX 780 SC. I have 0.6 CPU per 0.25 GPU

Be careful with those values

3 GPUs * 4 tasks = 12 GPU tasks

12 * 0.6 = 7.2 = 7 cores

This means BOINC will need to see 7 cores as free/usable to start GPU tasks.
If you run also CPU tasks (from any project) or have 'On multiprocessors, use at most XX% of the processors' this may limit BOINC to less than 7 cores available to 'allocate' for GPU tasks.


But in this case the problem was "some exception" ;) :
ERROR: some exception inside long FFA, probably video-driver restart, restarting app...
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3789058611
934) Message boards : Number crunching : Oddly long AP7 wu's? (Message 1589200)
Posted 20 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Also, the tuning parameters from AP v7 won't be picked up, they need to be set separately.

Strange, I have one and the same file:
ap_cmdline_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI.txt

... that is "picked up" for both AP v6 and AP v7 - as per app_info.xml
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>ap_cmdline_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI.txt</file_name>
            <open_name>ap_cmdline.txt</open_name>
        </file_ref>


P.S.
He probably installed the new Lunatics and need to look for his old ap_cmdline file in 'oldApp_backup'
935) Message boards : Number crunching : Driver 344.11 (Message 1588629)
Posted 18 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
add this

-use_sleep -unroll 12 -ffa_block 8192 -ffa_block_fetch 4096 -tune 1 64 4 1 -tune 2 64 4 1.

I wonder what will happen if the user copy the line as it is - with the dot at the end.
Will this be accepted by the app or ... all tasks will fail?
936) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Statistical question? (Message 1588627)
Posted 18 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I will resist temptation and spend a few days studying before attempting to install.

The install is only committed on the 'last' page (when it asks for directory - defaults to the right place but you may change it to some 'test' directory)
No changes to BOINC/SETI@home are made before that (so you may exit it early safely)
http://prikachi.com/images/819/7531819a.png
937) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Statistical question? (Message 1588482)
Posted 17 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
When you install Lunatics, each "page" has different options for installation.

Here are the screenshots I made from the previous installer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75391&postid=1555127#1555127
938) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (90) Server Problems? (Message 1588473)
Posted 17 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Wow ! And ouch ;)

This was tunnel-vision
Next time I have to look UP and around and not only in the centre :D
939) Message boards : Number crunching : how many ways to fry a motherboard? (Message 1588462)
Posted 17 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Salt + water = electrolyte = conductive
You have to find and dry it (e.g. by cotton-on-stick (is it the right word?))

If you can't find the drop - wait it to dry before switching ON
To test the dry time - make another drop outside the computer ;)
940) Message boards : Number crunching : how many ways to fry a motherboard? (Message 1588457)
Posted 17 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
One obvious thing is wear a wrist strap to prevent static electricity from screwing up the electronics.

I just wear cotton, walk on socks and touch the wall and computer case before reaching to the computer insides.
Also in hot weather sweat from my face may drop on the electronics ;)
941) Message boards : Number crunching : New PSU blows my mind. (Message 1588447)
Posted 17 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It seems to me: all the sockets on the power supply that have the same 'shape' are equivalent.
If you can plug a cable in it - it is in the right place ;)

I think there are two "4+4 CPU" cables in case the motherboard have 2 physical CPUs
942) Message boards : Number crunching : New PSU blows my mind. (Message 1588408)
Posted 17 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
http://www.corsair.com/en/rm-series-rm850-80-plus-gold-certified-power-supply

Have some info (e.g. what is "Corsair Link" (C-Link))
Have some PDFs and FAQ

There is this (interesting for me) info in CORSAIR-PSU-MANUAL.pdf
"Corsair’s GS, TX, TX-M, RM, HX, AX (not including AX1200) and AXi all feature a Zero RPM fan mode.
At low loads, the intake fan will not spin, allowing the power supply to operate in absolute silence."


See also this review (this is page 3 - about cables)
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/RM850/3.html


943) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (90) Server Problems? (Message 1588384)
Posted 17 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I completed a 40 second AstroPulse v7 v7.00 this morning, while I was drinking my coffee:)

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7271690&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=20

Are you sure you didn't slip your CPU some of your coffee? :)
I am going to guess that it is over 90% blanked. Once your wingmate returns their result you can see the blanking.


Its 100% blanked and aborted too much RFI.

Ah. I was just looking for the "percent blanked:" line. I didn't notice the "In ap_remove_radar.cpp: get_indices_to_randomize: good data chunks < 1. Blanking too much RFI?"

Look again ;)

The second task show "percent blanked: 7.45" and is 'Completed and validated' on its own! ???
(the first 40 s task is still 'Completed, waiting for validation')
944) Message boards : Number crunching : New PSU blows my mind. (Message 1588373)
Posted 17 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It's a corsair 850 watt

It helps if you give links, I forgot the exact model

Is it?:
HX Series HX850 Power Supply — 850 Watt 80 PLUS® Gold Certified Modular PSU
http://www.corsair.com/fr-fr/hx-series-hx850-power-supply-850-watt-80-plus-gold-certified-modular-psu

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4879/corsair_professional_series_hx850_850_watt_power_supply_review/index3.html
945) Message boards : Number crunching : running 2 amd 6570's on dell rig (Message 1588333)
Posted 17 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
In my posts - only 2 that have "1000 MHz" (but none is about "clock of other brands")
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74864&postid=1540296#1540296
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74864&postid=1551305#1551305
(I think you mean Glenn savill)

The stock clocks (MHz) for AMD Radeon HD 6570 are (GPU/RAM) 650/900 MHz
http://www.amd.com/en-gb/products/graphics/desktop/6000/6570#2
(this official page is too dark - use Ctrl+A to 'see in the dark')

My ASUS EAH6570/DI/1GD3(LP) have the same standard clocks: 650/900 MHz
I run it at 800/1050 MHz (max allowed by MSI Afterburner on my card)
 
946) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Statistical question? (Message 1588289)
Posted 17 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... knowledge base concerning "Lunatics" for a start ...

Lunatics Windows Installer v0.43 Release Notes
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75863&postid=1586215#1586215

More general (where the news are first posted):
Optimised Applications and Other Binaries
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71867
947) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Naming Pulsars & Black holes (Message 1588287)
Posted 17 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... now that SETI@home has been searching for new Pulsars & Black holes...

Where did you read that?
948) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Proposed Enhancement for TOP GPU MODELS Page (Message 1588244)
Posted 17 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... so its really based on numbers and popularity of that card.

That is not right

The person to listen about BOINC internals is Josef W. Segur

// "best-performing" is defined as minimizing the average of
//
// elapsed_time(J)/rsc_fpops_est(J)
// over completed jobs J currently in the DB


"Best GPU" = Min (Run-time/FLOP-count-estimate)

Seems to be calculated only for:
- tasks that run > 100 seconds
- tasks sent in the last 30 days
- only max 500 tasks for given GPU model are included in the average

Do not depend on "numbers and popularity of that card"
Only if really low number of some GPU model is used here (e.g. < 10) this may be the reason of more fluctuating
949) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Statistical question? (Message 1587839)
Posted 16 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Preferences#Processor_usage

Suspend work if no mouse/keyboard activity in last X Minutes
          Allows the computer to enter sleep/standby/hibernation mode. (Note 1)
NB: This option only exists on the Website Device Profiles / Computing Preferences

Computing preferences

 
950) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Proposed Enhancement for TOP GPU MODELS Page (Message 1587821)
Posted 16 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The so called 'Top GPU models' list:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/gpu_list.php

This list was discussed earlier:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75068&postid=1535001#1535001
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75068&postid=1535140#1535140

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71171&postid=1348787#1348787

This is the code from 2011, I don't know if it changed:
https://github.com/Milkyway-at-home/BOINC/blob/master/html/user/gpu_list.php
951) Questions and Answers : Wish list : APv7 and GPU (Message 1587804)
Posted 16 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration#Options

So you want to run only setiathome_v7 on one GPU and only astropulse_v7 on the other?
<exclude_gpu>
   <url>http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/</url>
   <device_num>0</device_num>
   <type>NVIDIA</type>
   <app>setiathome_v7</app>
</exclude_gpu>

<exclude_gpu>
   <url>http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/</url>
   <device_num>1</device_num>
   <type>NVIDIA</type>
   <app>astropulse_v7</app>
</exclude_gpu>
952) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Using on board graphics as well as a card? (Message 1587092)
Posted 15 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Got to BIOS, GPU is enabled...it is listed in Device manager under Win7...updated drivers AGAIN for intel HD2500...and still I get message:

10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: Quadro 2000 (driver version 307.45, CUDA version 5.0, compute capability 2.1, 1024MB, 873MB available, 480 GFLOPS peak)
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: Quadro 2000 (driver version 307.45, device version OpenCL 1.1 CUDA, 1024MB, 873MB available, 480 GFLOPS peak)
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Intel(R) Corporation, driver version 3.0.1.10878, device version OpenCL 1.2 (Build 76413))
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | app version refers to missing GPU type intel_gpu
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | SETI@home | Application uses missing intel_gpu GPU

10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | Processor: 4 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9]
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt aes nx lm vmx smx tm2 pbe
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Enterprise x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | Memory: 7.89 GB physical, 15.77 GB virtual
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | Disk: 100.00 GB total, 24.80 GB free

"updated drivers AGAIN for intel HD2500": - Where did you get the "updated drivers" from? (link)
Did you select to install the OpenCL part? (I don't know how the installation looks/works for iGPU - I don't have one)

BOINC do not detect the Intel OpenCL for GPU
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus> will not work unless BOINC show "OpenCL GPU: Intel ..."
953) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Statistical question? (Message 1587090)
Posted 15 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Zalster, please try to use paragraphs and other forms of making the text more readable.
(I don't know for other people but I refuse to read more than 3 lines of 'raw' text - too hard to follow, I become nervous/uncomfortable)
954) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Roku / Seti@home screen saver? (Message 1587087)
Posted 15 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What is Roku?
What is the CPU?
What OS is used?

Do you really want the screensaver or in fact want to compute for BOINC projects?
955) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.43 Release Notes (Message 1586494)
Posted 13 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Very funny :)
But then - if you wanted - you know how to scramble it (and unscramble in memory) so it will - this time - pass undetected.

Wait! - the scrambled virus will pass undetected but what about the good code? - it will be detected again ... so ... we are where we started ;)
956) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.43 Release Notes (Message 1586459)
Posted 13 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Look what I fell over on the way! I don't believe this one either - anybody ever had any previous experience of herd protect before? A bit too keen on sponsored advertising 'solutions' for my liking.

http://www.herdprotect.com/setiathome_7.03_windows_intelx86_opencl_ati5_sah.exe-77f47fc534e526748e78f6995fb86ab8c039f6aa.aspx

All 6 that show Gen:Variant.Fosniw are using the BitDefender engine

I had to fight similar problem with one of the stock apps on Asteroids@home
that was giving 'Gen:Variant.Kazy' for some people:
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/forum_thread.php?id=286&postid=2922#2922

Fight was successful after I sent reports to 4-5 vendors (and I think they pushed on BitDefender)

This my post have useful link for How-to do reports to many vendors:
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/forum_thread.php?id=286&postid=2990#2990
957) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.43 Release Notes (Message 1586424)
Posted 13 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I scanned the 32-bit file locally with McAfee (since I have it, and BilBg said it it came up on the VirusTotal hitlist). Nothing - clean. Got the very latest manual update from McAfee - still nothing. McAfee won't accept a sample larger than 10 MB for checking - we're at 22 MB (heavily compressed). So I'm stuck there.

I never used McAfee (well - I used the DOS version in ~1990 IIRC) so don't know how to do the next:
- try to increase the Heuristic/Scanner sensitivity to some 'paranoid' level
(it is possible that different sites use different Settings on their Antiviruses)

I Uploaded also here (where 2 are red):
http://virusscan.jotti.org/en/scanresult/4ff2fda35c5be9cb415514620924a7538fdcd744
958) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.43 Release Notes (Message 1586362)
Posted 13 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Just downloaded it from the site and Chrome gave me a malware warning

Really?... ;)
And WHAT did it said Specifically?

And you are sure Chrome issue some warning and Not the stupid Antivirus?

Lunatics_Win32_v0.43_setup.exe (I Uploaded this)
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/f9d0f893addaf1770119bd7eedfc368b526eacaf4672c266db7d950041b6acf5/analysis/1413223772/

Lunatics_Win64_v0.43_setup.exe (was already Uploaded - I didn't Re-upload)
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/9b17f92a69d116afd3b723c5dc79ed57b9aefe847bdbcf1761f034656906ffca/analysis/1413222138/

Do you have one of the shown (above, in red) stupid Antiviruses?:
McAfee
TrendMicro
Rising
Ikarus
Qihoo-360

***********

I use ESET NOD32 Antivirus 4

Scan Log
Version of virus signature database: 10553 (20141013)
Date: 13.10.2014 Time: 21:23:52
Scanned disks, folders and files:
J:\Data.All\Downloads.Bit\Software\Science\Optimized SETI@home\Lunatics' Unified Installer\Lunatics_Win32_v0.43_setup.exe
J:\Data.All\Downloads.Bit\Software\Science\Optimized SETI@home\Lunatics' Unified Installer\Lunatics_Win64_v0.43_setup.exe
Number of scanned objects: 239
Number of threats found: 0
Time of completion: 21:24:33 Total scanning time: 41 sec (00:00:41)

++++++++++++++

MD5:

d81de77ff755cd4d31404e5768058789 *Lunatics_Win32_v0.43_setup.exe
645b66d443f573ce8506514a41f970b5 *Lunatics_Win64_v0.43_setup.exe

==============

For browser I use SRWare Iron (based on Chromium) which do not issue such stupid warnings as "not commonly downloaded and could be dangerous"
[v] "Enable phishing and malware protection" is checked

;) Chrome seem to think everyone have to Download only Firefox as it IS "commonly downloaded" ;)
 
959) Message boards : Number crunching : Long-running work unit (Message 1586322)
Posted 13 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
But when I test the WU with -verbose, it looks normal

Did you try 10-20 times or only one?
It is known that the hang do not happen every time.
960) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (90) Server Problems? (Message 1585714)
Posted 12 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It is not editing code at all, you drag and drop the new app, then double click on the aimerge.cmd.

Then start BOINC back up.


Thanks Arkayn, I didn't think it could be that simple. Followed the instructions and it worked the first time. Now getting AP 7 work.

Be warned that you will lose the tasks in progress if/when you run the next Lunatics installer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75810&postid=1585689#1585689

The .aistub uses <version_num>701</version_num> and the Lunatics installer will use what is appropriate (704, 705, ...) from the stock list:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php
961) Message boards : Number crunching : unroll line for amd r7 265 and 7700 with v7? (Message 1585654)
Posted 12 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
You can see how this works:

BOINC assigns device 1 (Capeverde - AMD Radeon HD 7770)
-unroll default value used: 10
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3778940694

BOINC assigns device 0 (Pitcairn - AMD Radeon R7 265)
-unroll default value used: 16
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3778940709

App uses different -unroll for different GPUs automatically
 
962) Questions and Answers : Getting started : I cannot start my Seti@home project, i need help (Message 1585641)
Posted 12 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Once again... How do I get the screensaver running?

And "Once again" - you need to first 'Add' SETI@home project to that computer

How do you expect SETI@home screensaver to be running if you don't have any apps and tasks from SETI@home?
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=748127

"I have the Einstein@home screen saver running"??
- how that is possible (you have second account?) if you don't have computers attached to Einstein@home
http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=209301
963) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Krisiya Todorova   [Signal found but was hidden - just Listen (1st April)     9 | !9 -> ?] (Message 1585147)
Posted 11 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
The first Official Video:

Krisia, Hasan and Ibrahim - Planet Of The Children (Junior Eurovision 2014) - Official Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axpRWY6e7Uo

***

The links in first posts are dead.
This bad practice was reconsidered (as it seems) by the copyright holders (bTV Media Group, Slavi's Show)
and now (since ~July 2014) they do not delete videos of Krisiya

I keep the best (with sufficient quality) in my Playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUoBueatVVKFEL7pIYtXiecb-g8N9ecGA

And this is the list generated automatically by YouTube:
"Popular Krisia Todorova Videos"
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgp34P5v2be2_FBd6_p6hz46LMbNgPOle

 
964) Message boards : Number crunching : AP V7 (Message 1584253)
Posted 9 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The time estimate says 11:37:30 which is rather long ...

Mine is 12 days :)
But I know it will finish in ~2 h if run alone or ~3:30 if run along AstroPulse v6 (APv6 0.48 + APv7 0.51)

From BoincTasks:
7.04 astropulse_v7 (opencl_ati_100) ap_01au10ad_B1_P0_00088_20141009_18779.wu_2 - (-) 0.00 0.000    12d,03:42:56    03-11-2014 23:48 0.04C + 0.51ATI   Ready to start
965) Message boards : Number crunching : The ultimate build (Message 1584241)
Posted 9 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
Yes, the official 'Tech Specs' do not list dimensions:
http://www.corsair.com/en/vengeance-16gb-dual-channel-ddr3-memory-kit-cmz16gx3m2a1600c10

***

This is big front picture:
http://media.bestofmicro.com/Z/O/348612/original/Corsair-Vengance-16GB-top.jpg

I saved it, opened in IrfanView and Selected the top photo (in rectangle):
Corsair-Vengance-16GB-top.jpg - IrfanView (Selection: 33, 4; 1535 x 611; 2.512)

2.512 is L/H

H = L/2.512

H = 133.35/2.512 = 53.1 mm

1 inch = 25.4 mm
53.1 / 25.4 = 2.09 inch
 
966) Message boards : Number crunching : The ultimate build (Message 1584202)
Posted 9 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Mind that you check that ...
I hope you do not mind my corrections.

"Mind that I didn't check ..."
I hope you do not mind my emphasis ;)


I'm not sure this is correct use of 'Mind' but some Dictionary/Thesaurus used by Google say it may mean "pay attention to"
https://www.google.com/#q=synonyms+Mind
967) Message boards : Number crunching : The ultimate build (Message 1584163)
Posted 9 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I think it is saying the ram-sticks are 5 inches high.

No way
(5) inch = (12.7) centimeter

This have to be the length
http://www.simmtester.com/page/news/showpubnews.asp?num=168


Sure go ahead check.

Seems I used confusing English
By "Mind" I mean "Pay attention to", "Note that"/"Take note"

(I expect you to check and then ask people here is it OK (I do not have i7 CPU))
968) Message boards : Number crunching : The ultimate build (Message 1584145)
Posted 9 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Those links you have ...

Mind that I didn't check if those (exact model) coolers will be compatible to your CPU/socket/motherboard
969) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (90) Server Problems? (Message 1584134)
Posted 9 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This changed several times in the past days
970) Message boards : Number crunching : The ultimate build (Message 1584129)
Posted 9 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So now I have to be careful that my cpu heatsink/fan is "slim" enough. I need to measure everything out and do some research.

Those that use heat pipes may be high enough over the motherboard (and the base is the size of CPU)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2XC1E12084
http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Sleeve-Direct-Socket-100-FS-C901-KR/dp/B00FS6O20A

What's the height of the mounted RAM ?
971) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Using on board graphics as well as a card? (Message 1584044)
Posted 9 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The integrated graphics system is (according to the MB manual) an "ATI Radeon HD3000"

No, too old to be of use, it do not support OpenCL

And I doubt the driver (Catalyst 14.4) installed for your AMD Bonaire (2048MB) will recognize the Radeon HD3000
972) Message boards : Number crunching : Can I require that seti@home run only one task at a time? (Message 1583980)
Posted 9 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
The cure for "BOINC screensaver flickering/flashing problem":
- go to older (7.2.33) or newer (dev 7.4.8++) BOINC version:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75190&postid=1552674#1552674
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=9463&postid=54875#54875

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=9145&postid=53724#53724
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74414&postid=1495851#1495851


Problem first reported on 13 Feb 2014
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=8915&postid=52536#52536

***

'Development version' now is 7.4.22
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

All BOINC versions:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/?C=M;O=A


P.S.
Some people around here (which I deliberately ignore) think that 'they' may write in 'gibberish' English which 'mite' help someone but I doubt it gives more than a confusion ...

Hope that helps ;) (this is the end line of all useless posts on any forum)
 
973) Message boards : Number crunching : Can I require that seti@home run only one task at a time? (Message 1583949)
Posted 9 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The problem is in his description not exactly say what is meant by "so rapidly" (is it every second or every minute?):
"when the screensaver comes on it flips between the running tasks so rapidly I can't see the graphs"

He may in fact have the BOINC screensaver flickering/flashing problem:
https://www.google.com/#q=boinc+screensaver+flashing
https://www.google.com/#q=boinc+screensaver+flickering
974) Message boards : Number crunching : Can I require that seti@home run only one task at a time? (Message 1583920)
Posted 9 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I tried BilBG's method and it didn't work.

What means "it didn't work"?

What do you see exactly?
What did you expected to see?

(if you see 'flickering' - this is totally different problem)
975) Message boards : Number crunching : CPU power required to drive 4 AMD GPU ? (Message 1583916)
Posted 9 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
i had no idea that some processing was done on CPU as well, i thought all the CPU did was hand the units out..

Only for AstroPulse v6 the blanking is done on CPU
Not the case for AstroPulse v7 or SETI@home v7

The CPU load is due to the new drivers (> Catalyst 12.1) way of sync

See if:
-cpu_lock -instances_per_device 3

... put in files (similar names, may not be these exact on your system):
ap_cmdline_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI.txt
mb_cmdline_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5.txt

... will improve (lower) the CPU load


Also try if SetiPerformance will help to check the optimal number of tasks/GPU
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73524&postid=1453245#1453245
976) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (90) Server Problems? (Message 1583908)
Posted 9 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
;) just for fun (Numerology)

Speaking of dates I just checked:

We analyze data around 1420 MHz (1 420 000 000 Hz)
http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/about_seti/about_seti_at_home_2.html

If this is 'converted' to Unix time 1420000000 it will give Wed, 31 Dec 2014 04:26:40 GMT:
http://www.onlineconversion.com/unix_time.htm

Not only this is the last day of the year 31 Dec 2014
but 04:26:40 gives the "Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything (42)"
and 6*4 = 24 which is the reverse of the "Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrases_from_The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy#Answer_to_the_Ultimate_Question_of_Life.2C_the_Universe.2C_and_Everything_.2842.29

***

In fact I wanted to check if the Unix time now is not near to the max for 'Signed long integer' (a similar problem we had ~year ago?)
but the (usual) limit will be hit at:
Hex 0x80000000 = Dec 2147483648

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integer_(computer_science)#Long_integer

 
977) Message boards : Number crunching : CPU power required to drive 4 AMD GPU ? (Message 1583889)
Posted 9 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This is only a 2-core Celeron driving 4 GPUs and 12 tasks:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7405247

Are you sure the best production of this system will be with 3 tasks/GPU ?
978) Message boards : Number crunching : Can I require that seti@home run only one task at a time? (Message 1583883)
Posted 9 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
when the screensaver comes on it flips between the running tasks so rapidly I can't see the graphs

The way to do tweaks to that are 'Screensaver Settings', not "setting that restricts how many tasks are active at one time"
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/BOINC_screensaver#Screensaver_Settings
979) Questions and Answers : Windows : reset warning in log (Message 1583853)
Posted 9 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
I don't fully understand your post.
Explain what you mean by:
"'report' file"
"the tasks window"
"was uploaded after the WU"
"forced update"


Do you still have (in the computer) task/file with Name:
24au09aa.26956.96277.438086664199.12.31

Check in BOINC Manager (BAM) and as file in SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)

The result file will have name:
24au09aa.26956.96277.438086664199.12.31_0_0


'uploaded' task (result file) will still be shown on web as 'In progress'
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3771559442

If task on your computer is really finished and result file uploaded
it need to be also 'reported' before be shown on web as 'Completed'


had another log report saying exit with no finished file

'finished' file is NOT result file.
It is just a file with zero length (0 bytes) and name:
boinc_finish_called

It is created by apps when they finish all Computing, before they call BOINC API to tell BOINC "I will now exit because I finished all Computing OK"

App may exit (on its own) before it finish all Computing (e.g. because app can't communicate with boinc.exe)
In this case BOINC see app "exited with zero status but no 'finished' file"
meaning: app did not crash, app did not report error ('zero status'),
but app also did not create boinc_finish_called to tell "All the Computing is Done"

In this case BOINC restarts the task/app and it continues from last checkpoint.


Why don't you just Copy/Paste the real Messages

I have logs even back to 2009, so this is my first occurrence:

25-Nov-2009 01:31:03 [SETI@home] Task 04ap07aa.15633.560965.14.10.4_0 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file
25-Nov-2009 01:31:03 [SETI@home] If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project.
25-Nov-2009 01:31:03 [---] BOINC can't access Internet - check network connection or proxy configuration.
25-Nov-2009 01:31:03 [SETI@home] Temporarily failed upload of 06ap07ah.7315.447901.3.10.215_0_0: can't resolve hostname
25-Nov-2009 01:31:03 [SETI@home] Backing off 1 min 0 sec on upload of 06ap07ah.7315.447901.3.10.215_0_0


My last occurrence:

04-Jul-2014 05:40:01 [WUProp@Home] Task wu_v4_1400393393_996956_0 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file
04-Jul-2014 05:40:01 [WUProp@Home] If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project.
04-Jul-2014 05:40:01 [SETI@home] Task 15au08ac.20255.4571.438086664205.12.26_1 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file
04-Jul-2014 05:40:01 [SETI@home] If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project.
04-Jul-2014 05:40:01 [SETI@home] Task 15au08ac.20255.4571.438086664205.12.205_0 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file
04-Jul-2014 05:40:01 [SETI@home] If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project.
04-Jul-2014 05:40:01 [Asteroids@home] Task ps_140618_227209_4_1 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file
04-Jul-2014 05:40:01 [Asteroids@home] If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project.
04-Jul-2014 05:40:01 [WUProp@Home] Restarting task wu_v4_1400393393_996956_0 using data_collect_v4 version 414
04-Jul-2014 05:40:01 [SETI@home] Restarting task 15au08ac.20255.4571.438086664205.12.26_1 using setiathome_v7 version 700
04-Jul-2014 05:40:01 [SETI@home] Restarting task 15au08ac.20255.4571.438086664205.12.205_0 using setiathome_v7 version 700
04-Jul-2014 05:40:01 [Asteroids@home] Restarting task ps_140618_227209_4_1 using period_search version 10210


I never did reset any project (this is useless)

The "exited with zero status but no 'finished' file" happens usually when:
- some heavy process runs in the background
- BOINC have (temporarily) network problems
- (maybe) when computer clock changes backwards for more than 30 seconds (e.g. 11:22:33 -> 11:20:00)
 
980) Message boards : Number crunching : A big good morning from Belgium (and some questions) (Message 1583410)
Posted 8 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
my concern was that the g3610 is only PCI Express 2.0 and the 750ti requires PCI Express 3.0

Not 'requires' but 'compatible with' PCI Express 3.0
PCI Express 3.0 cards have to work even on PCI Express 1.x

"PCI Express 3.0 Base specification revision 3.0 was made available in November 2010, after multiple delays. In August 2007, PCI-SIG announced that PCI Express 3.0 would carry a bit rate of 8 gigatransfers per second (GT/s), and that it would be backward compatible with existing PCI Express implementations"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express#PCI_Express_3.x


I did check pc-specs but it only listed up to 600 series as compatible.

Because the docs are old


Is it still do-able considering the PCIe difference or will the loss of performance be too much?

For SETI@home some people use GPUs even on PCIe 1x slots with no difference in performance (or maybe 1-2%)
For most games using PCIe 2.0 16x probably will also not make much difference (compared to PCIe 3.0).


What do you see as "conflicting answers"? (Copy/Paste)
981) Message boards : Number crunching : A big good morning from Belgium (and some questions) (Message 1583378)
Posted 8 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
An upgrade to a gtx 750ti isn't possible due to the motherboard unfortunately
...
The motherboard is a Predator g3610

I don't see why GTX 750 Ti will not be possible

Acer Predator G3610
http://www.pc-specs.com/mobo/Acer/Acer_Predator_G3610/563
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-1834214/pci-motherboard.html

GTX 750 Ti (640 CUDA Cores, 60 W)
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-750-ti/specifications
982) Message boards : Number crunching : definition: radiator (Message 1583345)
Posted 8 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
In the 1000 watt psu ad they don't give dimensions.

Link?

("radiator" (heatsink) in the ad may be inside PSU to cool its hot parts)
983) Message boards : Number crunching : Seti not maxing out my GPU? (Message 1583334)
Posted 8 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I thought we weren't allowed to use apps on beta?

Only when directed to do so by developer. Like when running debug/test version to fix problem.

Yes, I did this for an issue with ATI AMD + Catalyst 11.12 (fixed now, I communicated by PMs on main with Raistmer, didn't have RAC to post on Beta at the time)
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/forum_thread.php?id=2185

Test (offline) logs are here:
http://pastebin.com/u/BilBg


* And later (now) I do it because no way to get stock on Beta for ATI AMD + BOINC 6.10.58 (no plan_class ati_opencl_100)
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/apps.php

My PM to Raistmer:
I started AP7 test on Beta using AP7_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r2690 from your post:
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/forum_thread.php?id=2182&postid=52303#52303

Computer:
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=72429
984) Questions and Answers : Windows : reset warning in log (Message 1583327)
Posted 8 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Log file warns that repeated cases may require reset of project.

Ignore this message and do not reset

This is only intended for stock users (and you are not: 'Anonymous platform', app_info.xml used)
- in case some .exe .dll is broken/corrupted - the reset will Download again new .exe .dll files for stock users
985) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (90) Server Problems? (Message 1582900)
Posted 7 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I clicked the nearest reply button..

[Post to thread] is even nearer ;)
986) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (90) Server Problems? (Message 1582894)
Posted 7 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Why did you 'answer' me?
(I did not say anything about release of AstroPulse v7)
987) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Using on board graphics as well as a card? (Message 1582890)
Posted 7 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
'Computers hidden' and you don't tell anything about the 2 GPUs
988) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (90) Server Problems? (Message 1582880)
Posted 7 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I could be wrong but I am thinking the reason why the DB purging has stopped at 2849 is because no work has been validated for some time this meaning there is no results to delete

"purging" is not "delete"

"Results waiting for db purging" means - task is already: validated, assimilated, files deleted
Only the info we see on the web pages remains to be purged (to vanish after ~24 h)

So 2,843 have to be really tasks ('Results' in their terminology) that are "stuck in limbo" and look like:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1481107605
989) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Question on GPU's (Message 1582856)
Posted 7 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Keep in mind:
GTX 750 and GTX 750 Ti are not the same

GTX 750 (512 CUDA Cores, 55 W)
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-750/specifications

GTX 750 Ti (640 CUDA Cores, 60 W)
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-750-ti/specifications

Factory Overclocked cards may have higher W (and need additional 6-pin connector from PSU)
990) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Question on GPU's (Message 1582838)
Posted 7 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
In short - you can add another not-the-same GPU

E.g. most people in Number Crunching say GTX 750 Ti is the most effective (best performance/W ratio)
https://www.google.com/#q=750+ti
https://www.google.com/#q=750+ti+site:setiathome.berkeley.edu

Then you use a simple Option to tell BOINC to use them both


"exact same video card" may be written in motherboard or video card manual when they talk about SLI - which is irrelevant to BOINC - do you need/want SLI for gaming?

But GTX 750 Ti is six "tiers" higher than GT 640 on this table:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

So probably even for games one GTX 750 Ti is better then 2x GT 640 in SLI
 
991) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Selectable ALTERNATVE directories (Message 1582433)
Posted 6 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Installing_BOINC
992) Message boards : Number crunching : Mismatch in time elapsed values? (Message 1582408)
Posted 6 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
As of writing, BOINC is showing a time elapsed of about 81 hours and astropulse (graphics) shows 2 days 22 hours (=nearly 70 hours)

If you restart BOINC they should be on par

This is only cosmetic - BOINC will report the correct Run time to the servers
993) Questions and Answers : Web site : Active participants? (Message 1582112)
Posted 5 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Do you mean something like this:
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/0/project/detail/overview
994) Message boards : Number crunching : How big is your rack? (Message 1581727)
Posted 4 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You may know but I didn't (and was totally confused where someone see a thing similar to "oxygen mask")

The HAL9000 comment was not to enlighten you but "For anyone that doesn't know ..."


Both cards without any discount is more than I make a month at my job

Talk about Bulgarian normal salary - teachers, doctors get ~$500/month (before taxes)
995) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (90) Server Problems? (Message 1581722)
Posted 4 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Oh, and your Hilary seems to think I'm running Netscape!:D

:) Since this is not "my" Hilary you may tell this bug to:
http://www.danasoft.com/
http://www.danasoft.com/contact3.html

? What is shown as HTTP_USER_AGENT on:
http://ip.my-proxy.com/

(include that if you report to danasoft.com)


- For me now in installed SRWare Iron 27.0.1500.0 it is:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Iron/27.0.1500.0 Chrome/27.0.1500.0 Safari/537.36

(and danasoft.com show Chrome)

- in IronPortable 35.0.1900.0 it is:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Iron/35.0.1900.0 Chrome/35.0.1900.0 Safari/537.36

http://sourceforge.net/projects/srwareiron.mirror/files/

(IronPortable = Looks the same as Chrome (based on Chromium), No install, No change of any files outside of its extracted directory, No autoupdate)

The original site have always only the latest version
(which this time is not good, if interested to try - get older IronPortable like 36 from sourceforge.net):
http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_download.php

 
(I also have/use sometimes Opera 12.16 (the old 'real' Opera), Firefox, but never use IE8 (XP) - too slow opens new tab, lag on scroll, no free AdBlock, ...)
996) Message boards : Number crunching : AP validater (Message 1581553)
Posted 3 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Discussion on this is here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75712&postid=1580957#1580957
997) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC Manager not choosing tasks chronologically. (Message 1581543)
Posted 3 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm taking it that there is no actual user setting to prioritize earlier tasks.

There is one that you can use to force BOINC run tasks in 'High Priority':
Switch between tasks every XXXX minutes
 

That no longer works in BOINC v7.x

Wow, they 'fixed' a feature ... ;)

Any other setting/config/hack that may make BOINC v7 panic?

(I know what may work:
Maintain enough tasks to keep busy for at least 10 days
- but OP may not want the max of 100 CPU + 100 GPU tasks always on-board
)


Not suggestion - just for fun:

What will happen if I run BOINC under RunAsDate with date in the future?
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/run_as_date.html

(I used RunAsDate for 2 programs successfully to fool them the date is older (in the past))
 
998) Message boards : Number crunching : experiment #99 (Message 1581539)
Posted 3 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
Do you have an UPS?
Because if electricity stops during the flash ... :(

More precautions:
- if the computer have habit to hang or crash (e.g. because of Overclock) - do not attempt flash
- Get the proper BIOS, even the same model motherboard may have versions (e.g. v1.0 v1.2 v2.0 - usually printed on it)

- Exit all programs - browsers, BOINC, players, Skype, ... anything that can do ... something ;)
- update the Antivirus signatures, do or disable the scheduled scan, even disable Real-time protection
(all this - to avoid any heavy background process to start during the flash)

- Do not touch mouse or keyboard during the flash
- Kick the cat out the room
- Pray


Edit:
I was too slow to compose the post (was distracted away from computer)
- you did it!?
 
999) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC Manager not choosing tasks chronologically. (Message 1581498)
Posted 3 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm taking it that there is no actual user setting to prioritize earlier tasks.

There is one that you can use to force BOINC run tasks in 'High Priority':
Switch between tasks every XXXX minutes

E.g. set it to 7200 minutes and BOINC will try to finish any task 5 days before deadline
Computing preferences

If you use Local preferences - set the value there.

You may play with even higher values like 21000 but that will make BOINC crazy ;)
(I use now 11000)
 
1000) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (90) Server Problems? (Message 1581437)
Posted 3 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Aren't they not yet fixed. ?!


Nope. Still got
1 · 2 · 3 · 4 . . . 442 · Next Notice: Undefined variable: stickysql in /disks/carolyn/b/home/boincadm/projects/sah/html/inc/forum.inc on line 996
at the top of the Number crunching forum page.


One last obscure & entirely cosmetic little bug. Apologies if it's been mentioned.

There are times when I hover my mouse over the HOME/PARTICIPATE/ABOUT links bar (both on top AND on the bottom) where each "box" will get a pixel or two wider at the bottom. Unfortunately it doesn't happen often and though I've tried to recreate it I haven't figured out how.

Happened again. Here's what I mean:

Unable to figure out what triggers it though :(

Which browser do you use?
Does it happen in other browser?

I bet it is Chrome 37 which have some bad issues, e.g. this one:
"Large number of bookmarks on "bookmarks bar" causes slow tab switching":
https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=409126
1001) Questions and Answers : Windows : No Screensaver Graph? (Message 1580869)
Posted 2 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You still don't understand?!
Attach the monitor to the NVIDIA

If only one monitor port exists - make sure it outputs only signal from the NVIDIA
(by selecting this in BIOS or the OS, there have to be such setting)

(Intel have this bug for 2-3 years which means it will not probably be changed/fixed)
1002) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Credits (Message 1580868)
Posted 2 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
https://www.google.com/#q=What+are+the+credits+for+BOINC
1003) Message boards : Number crunching : a question way out (Message 1580374)
Posted 1 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
When I say "I use (on Windows XP)" it means "it is tested by me on XP", it does not mean "it is only for XP"
http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/faq.htm
1004) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Android device not showing up on Seti@home stats page (Message 1580356)
Posted 1 Oct 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
Is it possible to find Computer ID / hostid in the interface of BOINC Manager for Android?

E.g. this one have hostid=7396761
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7396761


If the interface of BOINC Manager have no way to show hostid - do you know where are the BOINC files on the phone?

If the file client_state.xml exists it will have a section for SETI@home with <hostid> for the phone

This is from my 'normal' (PC) computer (I don't have Android device):
<project>
<master_url>http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/</master_url>
<project_name>SETI@home</project_name>
<user_name>BilBg</user_name>
<team_name>HardwareBG SETI Team</team_name>
<host_venue>school</host_venue>
...
<user_total_credit>6141712.247087</user_total_credit>
<user_expavg_credit>5595.277729</user_expavg_credit>
<user_create_time>1180238970.000000</user_create_time>
<rpc_seqno>105733</rpc_seqno>
<hostid>4832843</hostid>


And the link is:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4832843


If you found the hostid - post it here

Or put it at the end of this line to make a link to it:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=


P.S.
In BOINC Manager for 'normal' (PC) computer the Computer ID / hostid is very easy to find:
on Projects tab
- click on a project name
- click on [Properties] button
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Advanced_view#The_Projects_tab

You have 2 'normal' (PC) computers, try it on them just to see what/where to look on the phone:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=340839
1005) Message boards : Number crunching : some basics in amd gpu computing (Message 1579739)
Posted 30 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I guess all I have to do is restart boinc to get it to work.

Just 'Snooze GPU' (after 5-10 s un-Snooze it)
1006) Message boards : Number crunching : How big is your rack? (Message 1579737)
Posted 30 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
How big is your rack?

I don't have a "rack", do you?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rack

:))
1007) Message boards : Number crunching : a question way out (Message 1579720)
Posted 30 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Did you read the page?
1008) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (90) Server Problems? (Message 1579319)
Posted 29 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Forum advanced search, own user ID, no limit on time, is the workround I use.

This is OK to search for own texts but it have limit to show only 100 results (so no (easy) way to save all my posts in html file locally as I can do for my PMs)
1009) Message boards : Number crunching : tthrottle - users and critique (Message 1579308)
Posted 29 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I don't want to tthrottle it.

Then set in TThrottle a bit higher temperature than the GPU is already running
If now GPU runs apps at 73°C set in TThrottle 75°C

This way no Throttle will happen unless temperature reaches 75°C

I think TThrottle can save the GPU even in a case of failure of cooling system (fan stops, water do not flow)
You can test this by intentionally low fan speed (manually set fan to e.g. 10% and monitor how TThrottle lowers the GPU load to maintain the temperature <= 75°C)
1010) Message boards : Number crunching : a question way out (Message 1579304)
Posted 29 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If your goal is faster Registry - I use (on Windows XP):

NTREGOPT
http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/

PageDefrag
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897426.aspx
1011) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (90) Server Problems? (Message 1578948)
Posted 28 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
Is there a (new?) Setting on the server to send only one AstroPulse task per request?:

212 SETI@home 28-09-2014 07:33 Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
213 SETI@home 28-09-2014 07:33 Requesting new tasks for CPU and GPU
214 SETI@home 28-09-2014 07:33 Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
215 SETI@home 28-09-2014 07:33 Started download of ap_21ja09aa_B2_P1_00189_20140927_26266.wu
216 SETI@home 28-09-2014 07:33 Finished download of ap_21ja09aa_B2_P1_00189_20140927_26266.wu
222 SETI@home 28-09-2014 07:38 Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
223 SETI@home 28-09-2014 07:38 Requesting new tasks for CPU and GPU
224 SETI@home 28-09-2014 07:38 Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
225 SETI@home 28-09-2014 07:38 Started download of ap_21mr09ac_B1_P0_00392_20140927_08741.wu
226 SETI@home 28-09-2014 07:38 Finished download of ap_21mr09ac_B1_P0_00392_20140927_08741.wu
227 SETI@home 28-09-2014 07:43 Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
228 SETI@home 28-09-2014 07:43 Requesting new tasks for CPU and GPU
229 SETI@home 28-09-2014 07:43 Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
230 SETI@home 28-09-2014 07:43 Started download of ap_20fe09ac_B4_P0_00235_20140927_09927.wu
231 SETI@home 28-09-2014 07:43 Finished download of ap_20fe09ac_B4_P0_00235_20140927_09927.wu


(This is not because I finish one task of 100 and get another.
I had 60-70 AstroPulse tasks, then I up a few days the WU cache to fill tasks from SETI@home (before reduce the WU cache again and Allow New Tasks for other projects)
MultiBeam on CPU was filled to 100 in a few requests, AstroPulse for GPU - only one task per request
)
 
1012) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (90) Server Problems? (Message 1578924)
Posted 28 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Or lose me a lot - I've got a lot of SETI's history since 2007 in that inbox.

You remind me to save that page Ctrl+S

Pity "Message boards 2703 posts" can't be shown in one page so I can save them too ...
This would allow for local search in a file for something I posted long ago


P.S.
I try to find some way to tweak my 'Posts by BilBg' link but
forum_user_posts.php seems to have only 2 args ("userid", "offset")
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_user_posts.php?userid=8647488&offset=20


I looked at this version (Dec 19, 2012)
https://github.com/Milkyway-at-home/BOINC/blob/master/html/user/forum_user_posts.php

... and there is hard-coded:
$items_per_page = 20;


Will you be brave enough ;) to ask D.A. if this value can be added to Community preferences
1013) Message boards : Number crunching : Too long deadlines in SETI@home v7 units. (Message 1578477)
Posted 26 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
20 days may be too short for:
- old computers (like my 500 MHz K6-2+)
- slow Android devices
- when you go on 2-3 week vacation
- people with 'Suspend work while computer is in use'
 
1014) Message boards : Number crunching : Database Specs (Message 1578466)
Posted 26 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
From memory: I think the size is >1 TB

BOINC Database - "Master database queries/second" is often >2000
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html

At the bottom of page:

Programs:
BOINC master database: The mysql database that contains all BOINC related information (user stats, forum messages, basic workunit/result information, etc.).
BOINC replica database: A back-up server which contains an identical copy of everything in the BOINC database. Read-only queries can be aimed at this server to lessen the load on the BOINC database.

SETI@home science database: The informix database that contains final science products returned by SETI@home clients.
Astropulse science database: The informix database that contains final science products returned by Astropulse clients.
1015) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Validation inconclusive? (Message 1578430)
Posted 26 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Do you really ask?
It is clearly visible - the number of signals don't match (your is OK, other is wrong 'Autocorr count: 30')

Spike count: 1
Autocorr count: 2
Pulse count: 1
Triplet count: 1
Gaussian count: 0


Spike count: 0
Autocorr count: 30
Pulse count: 0
Triplet count: 0
Gaussian count: 0
1016) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : How to activate GPU project on SETI@home? Ubuntu 14.04LTS and Nvidia GPU. (Message 1577688)
Posted 25 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
There is box 'Location' at the bottom of computer page:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7332229

(the old name for Location is venue)

Also 'separate preferences for .....' can be set on:
Computing preferences
SETI@home preferences

If you changed the 'Location' of the computer and you have created 'separate preferences for [that Location]' make sure to change/look at the "correct venue (location)"
1017) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU detection problem (Message 1577425)
Posted 25 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
OS Version: Windows AMD64 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1

This line don't show any Hardware info
AMD64 here means just 'Windows 64 bit'
'AMD64' is the original name of 64 bit instructions AMD invented and Intel later adopted:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64


Runtime Dll Version: 5.50

It seems CUDA 5.5 Dll is found

I wonder if the info under 'Performance Information' was really measured?
(I don't have where to test CUDA-Z)


Do you look at this computer locally and monitor is connected to GTX 750 Ti ?
1018) Message boards : Number crunching : Long-running work unit (Message 1577361)
Posted 24 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
I did a test today (15 runs) - stderr.txt (K6-2+ / Windows 2000)
http://pastebin.com/NLKpNxiJ


Some observations:
- it is known but lets make it clear - app never hangs (at least for me) in the middle of Computing, it only may hang on the startup during 'Optimal function choice'

- wisdom.sah is 'updated' first (the fake update, only the order of lines changes)
The time of the file is set to 'now' 13-15 s after app start (since this happens before 'Optimal function choice' this file is updated even for hang app)

- the 'Test duration' is another wrong value:
Test duration 0.36 seconds
Test duration 380.57 seconds

In reality I measured 120-140 s from app start to appearing of line 'Test duration'
(obviously only for not-hang runs, time is not exactly the same every run but is in the range of ~2 minutes on this system)


- After app Hangs - most of the CPU time/load (~70%) is in Kernel mode (SIV, Process Explorer):






 
1019) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU detection problem (Message 1576884)
Posted 24 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I can see the 750 with GPU-Z

But does it show CUDA ? (GPU-Z will 'show' any GPU that have video driver, even very old like GeForce 256)
('No usable GPUs found' shown by BOINC means 'No Computing-enabled GPUs found')

Most probably you allowed Windows to update the NVIDIA driver
The so called 'NVIDIA driver' from Microsoft do not have CUDA

Get the driver from NVIDIA

There is also program CUDA-Z - try it:
http://cuda-z.sourceforge.net/
1020) Message boards : Number crunching : Long-running work unit (Message 1576875)
Posted 24 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The timing values are based on the QueryPerformanceCounter function on Windows 2000 and later. If that isn't available, there's a fallback using GetSystemTimeAsFileTime which is less precise.

How about under Linux?

Try the test and report, please (if you want to help to find and fix the issue (Josef W. Segur is one of the main programmers))

The test will show (for your system):
- how often the hang happens
- do you also see big + - numbers
- does the hang happen more often at some places (e.g. testing particular function or after big + - numbers)
- does the hang happen for both Linux apps (32 and 64 bit)

Run the apps (32 and 64 bit) at least 10 times each to have enough statistics
 
1021) Message boards : Number crunching : Long-running work unit (Message 1576551)
Posted 23 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
for Windows those are:

Hum:
Yes, I'm running Linux ...

I know he is running Linux, and I know he knows the app filenames
(I just didn't search them during the post, I explained my experience on how I did the test expecting he to find the proper filenames)

From his posts the apps filenames have to be:
setiathome_7.01_i686-pc-linux-gnu
setiathome_7.01_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
1022) Message boards : Number crunching : Long-running work unit (Message 1576490)
Posted 23 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
Source code is available but I don't know the proper link


You don't need to "reset a WU so it appears never to have run" so you "can watch it start up"
'Optimal function choice' is done on every restart (but only the first result is printed in stderr.txt)
There is a cmdline switch which makes the app print in stderr.txt all the functions tested on every restart


Do an Offline Test (outside of BOINC):

- Make an empty directory
- Copy in it all the app files, for Windows those are:
setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe
libfftw3f-3-3_upx.dll

- Copy some WU file and rename it to work_unit.sah

- Stop BOINC and run the app with -verbose switch:
setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe -verbose

Now look what is written in stderr.txt (new lines have to appear every few seconds)
After a few minutes kill the app process

(repeat run with -verbose as many times as you like)


(Part of) The results for me (run on 01.08.2013)
(first posted test show hang, second finish, but both have strange big/negative numbers)
16:23:58 (812): Can't set up shared mem: -1. Will run in standalone mode.
Restarted at 50.94 percent.
Optimal function choices:
--------------------------------------------------------
                            name   timing   error
--------------------------------------------------------
                v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)

              v_GetPowerSpectrum 0.011967 0.00000  test
             v_vGetPowerSpectrum not supported on CPU
            v_vGetPowerSpectrum2 not supported on CPU
     v_vGetPowerSpectrumUnrolled not supported on CPU
    v_vGetPowerSpectrumUnrolled2 not supported on CPU
           v_avxGetPowerSpectrum not supported on CPU
              v_GetPowerSpectrum 0.011967 0.00000  choice

                     v_ChirpData 0.640901 0.00000  test
                   fpu_ChirpData 573481538.838350 0.00000  test
16:28:36 (1380): Can't set up shared mem: -1. Will run in standalone mode.
Restarted at 50.94 percent.
Optimal function choices:
--------------------------------------------------------
                            name   timing   error
--------------------------------------------------------
                v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)

              v_GetPowerSpectrum 0.010331 0.00000  test
             v_vGetPowerSpectrum not supported on CPU
            v_vGetPowerSpectrum2 not supported on CPU
     v_vGetPowerSpectrumUnrolled not supported on CPU
    v_vGetPowerSpectrumUnrolled2 not supported on CPU
           v_avxGetPowerSpectrum not supported on CPU
              v_GetPowerSpectrum 0.010331 0.00000  choice

                     v_ChirpData 67253406.327791 0.00000  test
                   fpu_ChirpData -22044769989.102539 0.00000  test
               fpu_opt_ChirpData 0.175478 0.00000  test
             v_vChirpData_x86_64 not supported on CPU
               sse1_ChirpData_ak not supported on CPU
             sse1_ChirpData_ak8e not supported on CPU
             sse1_ChirpData_ak8h not supported on CPU
               sse2_ChirpData_ak not supported on CPU
              sse2_ChirpData_ak8 not supported on CPU
               sse3_ChirpData_ak not supported on CPU
              sse3_ChirpData_ak8 not supported on CPU
                 avx_ChirpData_a not supported on CPU
                 avx_ChirpData_b not supported on CPU
                 avx_ChirpData_c not supported on CPU
                 avx_ChirpData_d not supported on CPU
                   fpu_ChirpData -22044769989.102539 0.00000  choice

                     v_Transpose 3.278891 0.00000  test
                    v_Transpose2 140111.578261 0.00000  test
                    v_Transpose4 68867348302.981277 0.00000  test
                    v_Transpose8 -2.147919 0.00000  test
                  v_pfTranspose2 not supported on CPU
                  v_pfTranspose4 not supported on CPU
                  v_pfTranspose8 not supported on CPU
                   v_vTranspose4 not supported on CPU
                 v_vTranspose4np not supported on CPU
                v_vTranspose4ntw not supported on CPU
              v_vTranspose4x8ntw not supported on CPU
             v_vTranspose4x16ntw not supported on CPU
            v_vpfTranspose8x4ntw not supported on CPU
            v_avxTranspose4x8ntw not supported on CPU
           v_avxTranspose4x16ntw not supported on CPU
            v_avxTranspose8x4ntw not supported on CPU
          v_avxTranspose8x8ntw_a not supported on CPU
          v_avxTranspose8x8ntw_b not supported on CPU
                    v_Transpose8 -2.147919 0.00000  choice

                 FPU opt folding 0.075586 0.00000  test
                 ben SSE folding not supported on CPU
                  AK SSE folding not supported on CPU
                  BH SSE folding not supported on CPU
                JS AVX_a folding not supported on CPU
                JS AVX_c folding not supported on CPU
                 FPU opt folding 0.075586 0.00000  choice

                   Test duration    75.50 seconds



*****

Normal 'Optimal function choice' test - no big numbers:
20:11:09 (-1710395): Can't set up shared mem: -1. Will run in standalone mode.
Restarted at 71.81 percent.
Optimal function choices:
--------------------------------------------------------
                            name   timing   error
--------------------------------------------------------
                v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)

              v_GetPowerSpectrum 0.010295 0.00000  test
             v_vGetPowerSpectrum not supported on CPU
            v_vGetPowerSpectrum2 not supported on CPU
     v_vGetPowerSpectrumUnrolled not supported on CPU
    v_vGetPowerSpectrumUnrolled2 not supported on CPU
           v_avxGetPowerSpectrum not supported on CPU
              v_GetPowerSpectrum 0.010295 0.00000  choice

                     v_ChirpData 0.560746 0.00000  test
                   fpu_ChirpData 0.594549 0.00000  test
               fpu_opt_ChirpData 0.506013 0.00000  test
             v_vChirpData_x86_64 not supported on CPU
               sse1_ChirpData_ak not supported on CPU
             sse1_ChirpData_ak8e not supported on CPU
             sse1_ChirpData_ak8h not supported on CPU
               sse2_ChirpData_ak not supported on CPU
              sse2_ChirpData_ak8 not supported on CPU
               sse3_ChirpData_ak not supported on CPU
              sse3_ChirpData_ak8 not supported on CPU
                 avx_ChirpData_a not supported on CPU
                 avx_ChirpData_b not supported on CPU
                 avx_ChirpData_c not supported on CPU
                 avx_ChirpData_d not supported on CPU
               fpu_opt_ChirpData 0.506013 0.00000  choice

                     v_Transpose 0.798243 0.00000  test
                    v_Transpose2 0.420133 0.00000  test
                    v_Transpose4 0.214401 0.00000  test
                    v_Transpose8 0.361900 0.00000  test
                  v_pfTranspose2 not supported on CPU
                  v_pfTranspose4 not supported on CPU
                  v_pfTranspose8 not supported on CPU
                   v_vTranspose4 not supported on CPU
                 v_vTranspose4np not supported on CPU
                v_vTranspose4ntw not supported on CPU
              v_vTranspose4x8ntw not supported on CPU
             v_vTranspose4x16ntw not supported on CPU
            v_vpfTranspose8x4ntw not supported on CPU
            v_avxTranspose4x8ntw not supported on CPU
           v_avxTranspose4x16ntw not supported on CPU
            v_avxTranspose8x4ntw not supported on CPU
          v_avxTranspose8x8ntw_a not supported on CPU
          v_avxTranspose8x8ntw_b not supported on CPU
                    v_Transpose4 0.214401 0.00000  choice

                 FPU opt folding 0.084228 0.00000  test
                 ben SSE folding not supported on CPU
                  AK SSE folding not supported on CPU
                  BH SSE folding not supported on CPU
                JS AVX_a folding not supported on CPU
                JS AVX_c folding not supported on CPU
                 FPU opt folding 0.084228 0.00000  choice

                   Test duration    50.49 seconds



*****

'Optimal function choice' test on another CPU which do not hang (AMD Athlon II X3 455 + Windows XP)
16:26:24 (476): Can't set up shared mem: -1. Will run in standalone mode.
Restarted at 18.06 percent.
Optimal function choices:
--------------------------------------------------------
                            name   timing   error
--------------------------------------------------------
                v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)

              v_GetPowerSpectrum 0.000382 0.00000  test
             v_vGetPowerSpectrum 0.000320 0.00000  test
            v_vGetPowerSpectrum2 0.000358 0.00000  test
     v_vGetPowerSpectrumUnrolled 0.000324 0.00000  test
    v_vGetPowerSpectrumUnrolled2 0.000340 0.00000  test
           v_avxGetPowerSpectrum not supported on CPU
             v_vGetPowerSpectrum 0.000320 0.00000  choice

                     v_ChirpData 0.012787 0.00000  test
                   fpu_ChirpData 0.016894 0.00000  test
               fpu_opt_ChirpData 0.012891 0.00000  test
             v_vChirpData_x86_64 0.060894 0.00000  test
               sse1_ChirpData_ak 0.010138 0.00000  test
             sse1_ChirpData_ak8e 0.008654 0.00000  test
             sse1_ChirpData_ak8h 0.009152 0.00000  test
               sse2_ChirpData_ak 0.009978 0.00000  test
              sse2_ChirpData_ak8 0.006273 0.00000  test
               sse3_ChirpData_ak 0.009179 0.00000  test
              sse3_ChirpData_ak8 0.006062 0.00000  test
                 avx_ChirpData_a not supported on CPU
                 avx_ChirpData_b not supported on CPU
                 avx_ChirpData_c not supported on CPU
                 avx_ChirpData_d not supported on CPU
              sse3_ChirpData_ak8 0.006062 0.00000  choice

                     v_Transpose 0.021419 0.00000  test
                    v_Transpose2 0.011473 0.00000  test
                    v_Transpose4 0.008364 0.00000  test
                    v_Transpose8 0.014047 0.00000  test
                  v_pfTranspose2 0.011766 0.00000  test
                  v_pfTranspose4 0.007041 0.00000  test
                  v_pfTranspose8 0.011649 0.00000  test
                   v_vTranspose4 0.006263 0.00000  test
                 v_vTranspose4np 0.006060 0.00000  test
                v_vTranspose4ntw 0.005209 0.00000  test
              v_vTranspose4x8ntw 0.003133 0.00000  test
             v_vTranspose4x16ntw 0.002851 0.00000  test
            v_vpfTranspose8x4ntw 0.005198 0.00000  test
            v_avxTranspose4x8ntw not supported on CPU
           v_avxTranspose4x16ntw not supported on CPU
            v_avxTranspose8x4ntw not supported on CPU
          v_avxTranspose8x8ntw_a not supported on CPU
          v_avxTranspose8x8ntw_b not supported on CPU
             v_vTranspose4x16ntw 0.002851 0.00000  choice

                 FPU opt folding 0.003475 0.00000  test
                 ben SSE folding 0.001164 0.00000  test
                  AK SSE folding 0.001046 0.00000  test
                  BH SSE folding 0.001043 0.00000  test
                JS AVX_a folding not supported on CPU
                JS AVX_c folding not supported on CPU
                  BH SSE folding 0.001043 0.00000  choice

                   Test duration     4.77 seconds
1023) Questions and Answers : Windows : Program hangs both my PCs; screens go black, happens nearly immediately... clean OS installs! (Message 1576431)
Posted 23 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
OK, then it may be possible to reduce the load/demand on the GPU/driver


1) From ReadMe_MultiBeam_OpenCL_ATI.txt
"
-period_iterations_num N: Splits single PulseFind kernel call to N calls for longest PulseFind calls. Can be used to reduce GUI lags or
to prevent driver restarts. Can affect performance. Experimentation required. Default value for v6/v7 task is N=20. N should be positive integer.

-cpu_lock :Results in CPUs number limitation for particular app instance. Also attempt to bind different instances to different CPU cores will be made.
Can be used to increase performance under some specific conditions. Can decrease performance in other cases though. Experimentation required.
"
(-cpu_lock also reduces lag)


To apply those Settings - go to SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)
and find a file with similar name: mb_cmdline_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5.txt (it will be empty, have zero length)
and put the following line in it (higher N = less load) (to make the app see the new cmdline - pause/resume the task):
-cpu_lock -period_iterations_num 80


2) It seems you don't accept AstroPulse now
ATI AMD GPUs are most effective and have much less lag for AstroPulse (compared to SETI@home v7 (MultiBeam))

From ReadMe_AstroPulse_OpenCL_ATI.txt
"
-unroll N :sets number of data chunks processed per kernel call in main application loop. N should be integer number, minimal possible value is 2.
"

If/after you start to 'use' AstroPulse - Find a file with similar name: ap_cmdline_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI.txt
and put the following line in it (lower unroll = less load, I think -unroll 2 is the default now for AstroPulse v6 but the default will change for AstroPulse v7 (still not deployed here))
-cpu_lock -unroll 2
1024) Message boards : Number crunching : Screen Saver Help (Message 1575868)
Posted 22 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
BOINC ver 7.2.42

= known 'flashing' screensaver problem
https://www.google.com/#q=boinc%20screensaver%20flashing

Get 7.4.22
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php
1025) Message boards : Number crunching : Second GPU (Message 1575865)
Posted 22 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I remember using a neat app a while back that someone had made that would benchmark using a standard WU and you could select running 1, 2, 3 or 4 at a time and it would calculate what was best. Is that still around and has anyone got a link to that?

SetiPerformance 1.8 + Added apps from Lunatics v0.41
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73524

(It's up to you if you want to add and text newer apps)
1026) Message boards : Number crunching : Long-running work unit (Message 1575843)
Posted 22 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
long existing = years

It will not be fixed magically
Someone have to figure out why it happens on some systems before a fix is proposed

Example:
It happens in 30-40% at start/restart of tasks on my K6-2+ but only when it is booted in Windows 2000
When the same system runs in Windows 98 it never happens
The BOINC and SETI@home files are the same (same BOINC Program and Data directories used, same tasks continue to run)


PSAPI.DLL used in both cases is from Windows 2000
It is in SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)
and in app_info.xml I put these lines:
    <file_info>
        <name>Psapi.dll</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
...
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>Psapi.dll</file_name>
            <copy_file/>
        </file_ref>



I'm willing to test why the hang happens if someone can provide a test scenario


The currently running task (only at night, on Windows 2000) shows how some nights no progress was done (Restarts at the same progress/percent as previous day)
setiathome_v7 7.00 DevC++/MinGW/g++ 4.5.2
libboinc: 7.1.0

Work Unit Info:
...............
WU true angle range is :  0.014060
Optimal function choices:
--------------------------------------------------------
                            name   timing   error
--------------------------------------------------------
                v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)
              v_GetPowerSpectrum 0.010141 0.00000 
setiathome_v7 7.00 DevC++/MinGW/g++ 4.5.2
libboinc: 7.1.0

Work Unit Info:
...............
WU true angle range is :  0.014060
Optimal function choices:
--------------------------------------------------------
                            name   timing   error
--------------------------------------------------------
                v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)
              v_GetPowerSpectrum 0.009980 0.00000 
               fpu_opt_ChirpData 0.368909 0.00000 
                     v_Transpose 0.564497 0.00000 
                 FPU opt folding 0.125455 0.00000 
Restarted at 3.66 percent.
Restarted at 7.49 percent.
Restarted at 11.46 percent.
Restarted at 15.09 percent.
Restarted at 15.09 percent.
Restarted at 18.85 percent.
Restarted at 22.83 percent.
Restarted at 26.47 percent.
Restarted at 30.44 percent.
Restarted at 36.80 percent.
Restarted at 36.80 percent.
Restarted at 43.95 percent.
Restarted at 43.95 percent.
Restarted at 51.01 percent.
Restarted at 51.01 percent.
Restarted at 58.15 percent.
Restarted at 58.15 percent.
Restarted at 65.34 percent.
Restarted at 72.66 percent.
1027) Message boards : Number crunching : headless computer? (Message 1575355)
Posted 21 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
TeamViewer seems cheap and easy

It is Free as the page title say (unless you are a corporation/business):
"TeamViewer - Free Remote Control, Remote Access & Online Meetings"
http://www.teamviewer.com/

It also have (GUI) commands for remote reboot and shutdown
I sometimes use it to control from Bulgaria computer located in London
1028) Message boards : Number crunching : Long-running work unit (Message 1575344)
Posted 21 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It's happening again with another task

Of course it will happen, it don't depend on task, it depend on app
This is long existing problem with 'Optimal function choices' test on AMD CPUs
(sometimes the test hangs, sometimes not. On some systems it hangs a lot, on some - never/rarely)

The way to avoid this is using apps which don't do 'Optimal function choices' (and are faster):
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=1
1029) Questions and Answers : Windows : Program hangs both my PCs; screens go black, happens nearly immediately... clean OS installs! (Message 1575329)
Posted 21 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What happens if you only allow BOINC to start CPU apps?
(i.e. 'Suspend GPU' from Activity menu)

Your 'Core2 Quad' system have Last contact 12 Jul 2014
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7254457
1030) Message boards : Number crunching : Clucking bells....or something like that! (Message 1574717)
Posted 19 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
In essence, BOINC now thinks that it is not attached to any project at all!

Do you see the file account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml in BOINC Data directory?
If not - copy it from the other machine.
Then start BOINC and it should see the SETI@home project is attached/added
1031) Message boards : Number crunching : Max temp for getting the normal life out of a video card? (Message 1574423)
Posted 19 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I burnt out a 4670 doing collatz/boinc and it was probably running the fan at 100% all the time.

Get TThrottle
http://efmer.com/b/

Using it the GPU will not overheat even the fan stops
1032) Questions and Answers : Windows : Program hangs both my PCs; screens go black, happens nearly immediately... clean OS installs! (Message 1574416)
Posted 19 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Such technical issue is best discussed in Number Crunching

Post there with link to this thread (to not repost the same info)

You didn't say what brand/model are the PSUs
1033) Message boards : Number crunching : Long-running work unit (Message 1574144)
Posted 19 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Did you check again in slots of running tasks that the files are updating?
(stderr and state (I'm not sure about the exact names on Linux), to be sure app is not hang)
1034) Questions and Answers : Windows : Download Issue (Message 1573848)
Posted 18 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Simple uninstall/reinstall of BOINC usually fixes the permissions
(no need to go with so big 'cleaning' as you did)
1035) Message boards : Number crunching : Long-running work unit (Message 1573272)
Posted 17 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Yes, I'm showing all tasks; there are some running and some ready to start.

Well, I can't explain it then. I don't know which version of BOINC you're using, because your computers are hidden at both projects ...

Link to his computer (the one with the initial problem of hang CPU task) is in my post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75617&postid=1571014#1571014
1036) Questions and Answers : Windows : Question to 4P board owners (not utilising 32+ cores) (Message 1573014)
Posted 17 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Switched from x86 to x64 and now all 48 cores are working fine.

I don't know what you "Switched from x86 to x64"
I already read your previous log and it show x64 OS and BOINC - but still 32 CPUs:

9/15/2014 9:58:12 AM | | Starting BOINC client version 7.2.42 for windows_x86_64
...
9/15/2014 9:58:12 AM | | Processor: 32 AuthenticAMD AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 6176 SE [Family 16 Model 9 Stepping 1]
...
9/15/2014 9:58:12 AM | | OS: Microsoft Windows Server 2012 R2: Datacenter x64 Edition, (06.03.9600.00)


I don't think that windows server 2012 forces restrictions on max CPU usage, as BOINC spawns child threads.

BOINC spawns child processes, not threads (I mean the apps from projects are separate processes)
And it starts so many CPU processes as many CPUs it detects (if Preferences are set for "use at most 100% of the processors")

There is an Option that can be put in cc_config.xml that can make BOINC start more (or less) processes than the number of CPUs it detects
(I was about to suggest that as last resort - if you didn't manage to find a 'normal' fix)
1037) Message boards : Number crunching : new computer build (Message 1572611)
Posted 16 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Since the bios resides on the mobo, I won't be able to get it to work on an ASRock mobo.

Who said that?
And what is it in your sentence?


*** Question to others:

What will happen if:
- HDD is moved to another system (maybe with no network attached)
- Windows say it needs re-activation (you do nothing)
- HDD is moved back to the original DELL system

Will Windows be with 'Activated' status (or say 'need re-activation' even on the original DELL system)?
1038) Questions and Answers : Windows : Download Issue (Message 1572603)
Posted 16 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The folder does exist under the BOINC folder (C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu).

So are there any files in \setiathome.berkeley.edu\ ?
Do you run BOINC from admin Windows account?
Did you try to reinstall BOINC? (this will probably give 'Repair' option)
1039) Questions and Answers : Windows : Question to 4P board owners (not utilising 32+ cores) (Message 1572596)
Posted 16 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
If/when Local preferences are set to:
On multiprocessor systems, use at most 100 % of the processors

... and BOINC still see 32 CPUs:

- I'm interested to know what other programs see:
SIV - System Information Viewer (get siv.zip uncompress it and run SIV64X.exe)
http://rh-software.com/


- You may be interested to check if this is fixed/different in the 'Development version' of BOINC (currently 7.4.21)
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

***

I'm not familiar with Windows Server 2012 R2: Datacenter x64 Edition
Is it possible that it have somewhere a setting to "Limit number of CPUs available to a program/process"?
Or CPU affinity mask is set for boinc.exe

To check affinity (which CPUs are allowed by OS for use by boinc.exe):
in Windows Task Manager Right-Click boinc.exe and: Set Affinity ...


P.S.
When you say "Computing Preferences" it is not clear where:
They are "Computing preferences" on the web Computing preferences
They are "Computing preferences ..." in BOINC Manager Menu





Your wording seems to be from the web but you already use Local preferences
And "Settings override the same preferences set on the project's web page preferences"

If those Preferences you listed are from the web page Computing preferences it's very strange you typed the text instead of Copy/Paste


Local preferences tab you need to look:




 
1040) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Ability to specify "How many" CPUs to use when computer is in use (Message 1572595)
Posted 16 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Neither one is a BOINC project - they are "other" programs I use.

Then why we (you) discuss this here??

"other" programs run in normal (or higher) priority
CPU tasks of any project run by BOINC use low/idle priority so do not introduce lag (even when they show as using 100% CPU)
Even on 500 MHz CPU I do not feel lag (i.e. no difference if BOINC runs or not CPU SETI@home task on the single core of this CPU)
1041) Message boards : Number crunching : @Pre-FERMI nVidia GPU users: Important warning (Message 1572567)
Posted 16 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The GPU errored out AP work in seconds.

Did you ever been on driver 340.52 ? (if not - your problem is irrelevant to this thread)

'Error tasks for computer 5065145' show only 'Driver version: 337.88'
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5065145&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=

"Entry function 'GPU_fetch_array_kernel_twin_1D_cl' uses too much shared data (0x4034 bytes, 0x4000 max)"

You should use Lunatics installer 0.42a - e.g. form link in this post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75596&postid=1570561#1570561

EDIT:
This is the original post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75391&postid=1560695#1560695
1042) Message boards : Number crunching : @Pre-FERMI nVidia GPU users: Important warning (Message 1572552)
Posted 16 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
Add also GeForce GT 240
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=71055

I notified the user, he responded with "Thanks for notifying!" and now the computer shows driver: 337.88 (old tasks have "Driver version: 340.52")


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_200_series

GeForce GT 240 (Code name GT215)
Compute Capability: 1.2 (GT215, GT216, GT218 GPUs)
 
1043) Questions and Answers : Windows : Question to 4P board owners (not utilising 32+ cores) (Message 1572101)
Posted 15 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Which "value" to 48 processors?

We were talking to first change:
On multiprocessor systems, use at most 100 % of the processors


And will be good to supply more tech info when asking tech questions
The usual procedure is to Restart BOINC and then Copy and post the first 30-40 lines from Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E)
1044) Message boards : Number crunching : Transfer Seti Data Files (Message 1572027)
Posted 15 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
No
(you can't transfer some of the Data Files (without going into details - you can transfer all or nothing))
1045) Message boards : Number crunching : Computer Upgrades - normal or not? (Message 1572011)
Posted 14 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
installing

It is very probable that X means X server:

sudo service stop mdm
sudo pkill -9 X


(I don't know what is mdm, probably: http://community.linuxmint.com/software/view/mdm)

(I don't know what is -9 but pkill have to mean ProcessKill)
1046) Message boards : Number crunching : new computer build (Message 1572009)
Posted 14 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Dell puts the Microsoft OS key on the outside of the case

But that means anyone that have physical access to the computer can steal the OS key? (e.g. by making photo)
1047) Message boards : Number crunching : new computer build (Message 1572004)
Posted 14 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It is not clear who do you address in "reading you correctly"
The question is: do you have the Windows 'licence key'/'CD key' somewhere? (in a file, printed on CD case, printed on computer case, in computer manual, ...)
1048) Message boards : Number crunching : Long-running work unit (Message 1571983)
Posted 14 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Optimized apps do not have this problem (they do not do 'Optimal function choice') and are of course much faster.

If you want to go for them:
http://www.arkayn.us/forum/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=cat5
1049) Message boards : Number crunching : Long-running work unit (Message 1571978)
Posted 14 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The app is hang in 'Optimal function choice' routine

'Optimal function choice' do not depend on the task itself (so hang may happen again with any task)
This test is done before the app even looks at the task data


Suspend/Restart it (wait a few minutes after Restart)
Look in stderr.txt to see the printed functions (Optimal function choices) in the table
(do Suspend/Restart a few times if needed)


Normal stderr.txt should start with:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3732593977
<stderr_txt>
setiathome_v7 7.00 Revision: 1772 g++ (GCC) 4.4.6 20110731 (Red Hat 4.4.6-3)
libboinc: BOINC 7.1.0

Work Unit Info:
...............
WU true angle range is :  0.384554
Optimal function choices:
--------------------------------------------------------
                            name   timing   error
--------------------------------------------------------
                v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)
     v_vGetPowerSpectrumUnrolled 0.000039 0.00000 
                 avx_ChirpData_c 0.001676 0.00000 
           v_avxTranspose4x16ntw 0.000320 0.00000 
                  AK SSE folding 0.000227 0.00000 
1050) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Ability to specify "How many" CPUs to use when computer is in use (Message 1571970)
Posted 14 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
On which computer ID is this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=61201

How do you know "Neither of these tasks use the GPU"?
Are they SETI@home v7 or AstroPulse?
What is the process name (.exe)?

What you describe (lag and % progress in 'chunks') seems like OpenCL GPU AstroPulse task
1051) Message boards : Number crunching : Computer Upgrades - normal or not? (Message 1571743)
Posted 14 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
I don't know Linux but obviously you don't understand which part of the line is command and which comment

He uses -- as 'part of speech', Not part of command

Probably this:
sudo service stop mdm; sudo pkill -9 X --

... will work if used as:
sudo service stop mdm
sudo pkill -9 X


This looks absolutely strange:
cd Desktop NVIDIA-Linux-x86-340.32.run

Do you have directory with name NVIDIA-Linux-x86-340.32.run ??
(everybody knows cd means ChangeDirectory (in DOS, in CMD on Windows, ...))

Maybe:
cd Desktop
sudo chmod +x NVIDIA*
 
1052) Questions and Answers : Windows : Question to 4P board owners (not utilising 32+ cores) (Message 1571730)
Posted 14 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
On multiprocessor systems use at most 0.00%

Make this 100%

In fact the wording on the web Computing preferences is:
On multiprocessors, use at most 64 processors
On multiprocessors, use at most 100% of the processors

In Local preferences it is:
On multiprocessor systems, use at most X % of the processors
1053) Message boards : Number crunching : Long-running work unit (Message 1571270)
Posted 13 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Then you may find is it really progressing (or is hang)

go to <BOINC_Data>\slots\
and find the relevant slot #
(the WU name is in work_unit.sah)

Sort the filelist by date, look if the last updated files have near-current time


Look in the next files for similar rows:

boinc_task_state.xml (this file is written by BOINC, may not show the real progress)
<fraction_done>0.850431</fraction_done>

state.sah (this file is written by the app, this is the checkpoint file)
<prog>0.85040579</prog>

(the above shows ~85% done)
1054) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Ability to specify "How many" CPUs to use when computer is in use (Message 1571036)
Posted 12 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Another "thing" is when a video game is being played. One of my machines has 4 GPUs, all of which must stop if I want a single GPU for my use.

For this problem you can try GPUSwitch 2.0
"Script for disabling/enabling GPUs on the fly"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62127

The original site (http://www.hellhorse.net/) is down (no DNS record) so I Uploaded my copy:
http://www2.zippyshare.com/v/78377495/file.html

The GPU Switch script makes changes to cc_config.xml


Before usage you need to change some strings in GPUSwitch.js

var strBOINCDir = "D:\\Sensitive data programs\\BOINC";

And all strings (read the above link for cc_config.xml to know why):
ignore_cuda_dev

... to:
ignore_nvidia_dev

 
1055) Message boards : Number crunching : Long-running work unit (Message 1571014)
Posted 12 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
How would I find/alert the wingmates? The WU's name is 20fe09af.20377.5815.438086664197.12.252.vlar_0


It was Completed OK by another (Mac OS) computer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1589164773

And for reference of other readers - your computer is:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7306664

You didn't answer an earlier question:
Do you see CPU load by this process?

(and vlar tasks take more time)
1056) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems with UBUNTU 14.04 (Message 1570783)
Posted 12 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I don't know, I never did uninstall
I know installation (over stock or over Lunatics) removes .exe .dll .bin* ... (moves them to oldApp_backup)

Why don't you check by yourself in SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)


Since .bin* files are Not put there by the installation (instead, they are generated on first app run) I doubt the uninstall will remove them


You can safely install Lunatics version 0.42a
(it have the older OpenCL AstroPulse apps (that work on ATI Radeon HD 4700/4800) + the new CPU apps ...
i.e. it is the same as v0.42 except for OpenCL AstroPulse apps (for ATI and NVIDIA) which are the older 'compatible' apps
)
1057) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems with UBUNTU 14.04 (Message 1570650)
Posted 11 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... just remember to remove the Binary created by r2399

Lunatics installer will remove the Bin* files
And even with manual installation of other app version this remove is not mandatory as the files are since long time versioned with rXXXX

(this remove is only needed for 'old' apps when changing driver version)
1058) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : How do I use my GPU to crunch data as well? (Message 1570567)
Posted 11 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You can see what applications are available now for Mac OS (only for CPU):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php


You can also see what applications will be available 'soon' for Mac OS by checking on SETI@home/AstroPulse Beta:
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/apps.php

(AstroPulse v7 - opencl_ati_mac , opencl_intel_gpu_mac , opencl_nvidia_mac)

If you want to test them now - Add the 'SETI@home Beta' project
It is not in the list shown in BOINC Manager, to Add it - paste the URL:
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/

('SETI@home Beta' is separate project - you need to create new account there)
1059) Message boards : Number crunching : After 7.2.42 - what about not running unfinished jobs!? (Message 1570185)
Posted 10 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
In the older versions, jobs were only reported, when all downloaded jobs were done!

Not true for any BOINC version
1060) Message boards : Number crunching : total stars in "shooting distance range" AP vs MB (Message 1570096)
Posted 10 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What are spikes and triplets?

If you didn't already, read these:
http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/about_seti/about_seti_at_home_1.html
http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/screensaver/index.html

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_glossary.php
1061) Message boards : Number crunching : 269 pending - what will happen?? (Message 1570034)
Posted 10 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Under "details" for computers, does this indicate how much a system should do??
    Measured floating point speed 5038.9 million ops/sec
    Measured integer speed 26532.39 million ops/sec


No, it is just BOINC benchmark which uses only FPU (not SSE ...) (AFAIK it is >20 years old benchmark)
This is the old-fashioned FP 'speed' of one core of the CPU (BOINC do not benchmark the GPUs at all)


Can't remember who it was, Mr. ageless maybe, who told me about the GT640 from Asus. It's a great card, great for a Low Profile card that is ;)

Probably you refer to my post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73359&postid=1474199#1474199


Mind to all readers here - you do not use your CUDA GPUs for SETI@home (you do not want to use app_info.xml), you use the GPUs for Asteroids@home
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/show_host_detail.php?hostid=115283

(this is if someone wonders why your RAC here is too low for so many GPUs)


so I got a large 500w 2U PSU for it and was this a pricy one! It cost more than twice as much as the 300 watt PSU, in US$ it was about 250-270!

Where did you get 500 W PSU for US$ 250 ??

My FSP FORTRON SAGA II 500 was a few years ago 49 USD (without VAT, ~59 with 20% VAT)
 
1062) Message boards : Number crunching : Increased Processing Times for AP WUs ?? (Message 1569413)
Posted 9 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This on a Linux server using ap_6.01r546_sse3_linux32


Your Stderr shows stock app, not SSE3
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3722293458

Only one task with Run time 0 is by SSE3
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3678819857

Edit:
The above SSE3 Stderr is from the time you used BOINC 6.2.14
There are some other SSE3 done tasks all under BOINC 6.2.14
Obviously you deleted app_info.xml manually (since the new BOINC installation will not do that by design, it have to preserve the BOINC Data directory)
 
1063) Message boards : Number crunching : To many invalid AP's (Message 1569291)
Posted 8 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
560 Superclocked

This means factory Overclocked?
Try to Downclock it (return to 'normal' shader clock) or increase the GPU voltage if it's possible

Now it is at:
Max clock frequency: 1862Mhz
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3718623599

This is in the wide range of NVIDIA Specifications:
Processor Clock (MHz) 1620-1900
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-560/specifications

Since there is no point to run fast but with errors - try a clock of 1700-1800 to see if that fixes the Computing problems
(probably the GPU have no problem in games, wrong color pixel from time to time will not make game crash)
1064) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems with UBUNTU 14.04 (Message 1569263)
Posted 8 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I couldn't even get the HD to reformat to NTFS ...

Get Hiren’s BootCD 10.6
http://www.hirensbootcd.org/hbcd-v106/

It have Acronis Disk Director 10.0.2160
Use it to remove all Partitions, create new one and format it to NTFS

(do not get newer than Hiren’s BootCD 10.6 - they have removed Acronis Disk Director (and other programs))
1065) Message boards : Number crunching : All of a sudden: Errors on APs (Message 1568514)
Posted 7 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I down loaded the r_2667 apps. But I cant open it untill I get the correct 7zip file. The one I did try wanted to load me up with all sorts of crapware I do not want and a browser I dont need. So untill I can find a crap free version I will hold hold off on trying r_2667 version.

So you don't remember your own words:
"Ive found that most things free on cnet comes with a bunch of crap you dont want. Even reading and unchecking boxes is not a guarantee that you wont download some crapware."
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74511&postid=1502003#1502003

The clean link for 7-Zip
http://www.7-zip.org/
1066) Questions and Answers : Getting started : How the 'H' do I actually get this to run? (Message 1568464)
Posted 7 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Just tell them to press CTRL + ALT + E simultaneously and it'll open the event log on simple view.

It's CTRL+SHIFT+E according to docs you write ;)
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Simple_View#The_Event_Log_window
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/w/?title=Simple_view&action=history
1067) Message boards : Number crunching : Low GPU Utilization Using Standard Apps - Fixable? (Message 1566284)
Posted 3 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
although once astropulse_v7 arrives you'll need to add an entry for that

Only if he (again) want more than one task per GPU
i.e. even if the app_config.xml do not have astropulse_v7 section BOINC will Download and run astropulse_v7 apps if they exist as stock for Linux

(of course you know all that, this was to clarify things to the OP)
1068) Message boards : Number crunching : Low GPU Utilization Using Standard Apps - Fixable? (Message 1566280)
Posted 2 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
setiathome_v7 and astropulse_v7

;) Of course it is still astropulse_v6 but even when astropulse_v7 will be here the above app_config.xml will not stop new stock apps to run

(and if someone still didn't notice: the OP is using Linux (so directory will be in different place, but app_config.xml is still applicable and have the same format/contents as in Windows))
1069) Message boards : Number crunching : Low GPU Utilization Using Standard Apps - Fixable? (Message 1566274)
Posted 2 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I don't want to switch back to the anonymous platform configuration you are suggesting ...

No, he is Not suggesting Anonymous platform app_info.xml

He is suggesting app_config.xml (which can be used with stock apps)
1070) Message boards : Number crunching : skype wish for my seti machine (Message 1566272)
Posted 2 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I use now (on XP) fixed Skype 4.2.0.187 from here:
http://forum.ru-board.com/topic.cgi?forum=5&topic=39440&start=4680#5
http://webfile.ru/file/b37cbe4312abae8865256a8b6c8740ac
http://rghost.ru/57811045

This is only .exe which replaces Skype.exe (in the install directory)
1071) Questions and Answers : Windows : No Screensaver Graph? (Message 1566265)
Posted 2 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
- The SETI@home screensaver have no known problems to show all the graphics on NVIDIA and ATI AMD (if the monitor is connected to them)

The following is not graphics card dependent:
- The BOINC screensaver (which in turn invokes the projects screensavers) in some versions of BOINC may have a 'flicker' problem which is fixed in the last 'Development version'
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

- on SETI@home only the CPU apps have graphics part = you can see the SETI@home screensaver only when some SETI@home task runs on the CPU (no matter if another runs on GPU)
1072) Questions and Answers : Windows : Validation Inconclusive and Invalid statuses (Message 1565822)
Posted 1 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-660/specifications

Base Clock (MHz) 980
Boost Clock (MHz) 1033


Your GeForce GTX 660
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3710848660

"Kepler GPU current clockRate = 1149 MHz"


Too much Overclock may lead to wrong Computing (usually false/more 'signals' found)
(other bad factors may be heat/temperature and unstable or low voltage (weak PSU))

The same WU done on other computer with GeForce GTX 550 Ti found one less 'Autocorr' (the same is true for a few other Stderr I looked at in your list of 'Validation inconclusive (127)'):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3710848661


The first thing to try is to return GPU to the 'normal' MHz

(and yes, the results in categories: 'Valid (120) · Invalid (1)' will vanish from the web pages after ~24 h)
 
1073) Questions and Answers : Windows : Scheduler wait: CuFFT Plan Failure, temporary exit (Message 1565799)
Posted 1 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Probably because of only "256MB, 175MB available"

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75391&postid=1555012#1555012

"NVidia GPU (CUDA) app
...
Should run on all NVidia CUDA cards with at least 512MiB video RAM. Actual free memory required is in the region of 200-235MB, depending on driver, OS flavour and CUDA variant. The code will scale up if more memory is available.
Running on a 256MiB card is just possible, but you will have to free up as much VRAM as possible, e.g. by disabling Aero.
"
1074) Questions and Answers : Windows : New User: Questions.. (Message 1565643)
Posted 1 Sep 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
And this have to be "why do we get", not "why do i get"

Look
Server status page

Under 'Splitter status' - 'File name' you'll see which 'tapes' are in processing now
('splitting' - making small WU files to be sent to us from 50 GB big files. Those big files we call 'tapes' for historical reasons)
1075) Message boards : Number crunching : combo 4650 and 6570? (Message 1565344)
Posted 31 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... and then install Catalyst 12.4 which is the last driver that will work with the 4650 and the 6570 card in Windows Vista/7.

I think Catalyst 12.1 will be even better (if exists for the OS used)
It (maybe) will give less CPU load?
(as I'm on XP I'm not sure of the above)
1076) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.42 Release Notes (Message 1564386)
Posted 29 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You can check by yourself:
Open the Lunatics_Win??_v0.42_setup.exe files with 7-Zip and see what files are inside:
http://www.7-zip.org/
1077) Message boards : Number crunching : HP printer cartridges (Message 1564377)
Posted 29 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
My Canon printer refuses all refilled cartridges, while the HP printer accepts them.
Tullio

By "refilled cartridges" I hope you mean original Canon cartridges refilled by you (and not some china-made replacements)

Old Canon (>8 years old) have no any protection.

New Canon (I don't know about the last 2 years) usually only need:
- while the printer is ON: press and hold 'Cancel' button for 10-20 sec
('Cancel' is usually pink circle with triangle in it)

If the printer have more buttons - sometimes you need to use [OK] button the same way

(only for some (like Canon MP520) more 'button pressing' is needed)


These 'secret keys' are probably added so the 'authorized personnel' can test the printer without need to put new cartridges.
(the same way 'cheat codes' in games are put there so the game developers can easily test/debug the game)
1078) Message boards : Number crunching : HP printer cartridges (Message 1564289)
Posted 29 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
You can put the Black No.15 in both printers and it will work.

Black No.45 will not work in HP 840C (just because it was cheap printer and HP want to 'reclaim' money by forcing people to buy Black No.15)

This is intentional: 15 contains less ink from the factory (but if you refill it you can put the same amount of ink (42 ml) in it as in #45)
No technical reason - 15 and 45 are the same electrically and both have 300 nozzles.
But there is check in the firmware of 'cheap printers' to intentionally not accept 'full' cartridges (like 45 and 23/41)

If you refill #17 it will 'accept' ~3*15 ml (the factory is only 3*5 ml)
(Note: there are some new modifications of 'half-empty' cartridges (like #17) that contain half sponge (from the bottom to the half-height of cartridges) - they will not 'accept' more than ~3*10 ml)

Colour No.17 have 64 nozzles per colour (total 3*64) but Colour No.78 have 128 nozzles per colour so they are not interchangeable in any direction

(Colour No.17 can be used instead of Colour No.23)


EDIT:
Note about 'ink level' shown in Software - it is calculated, NOT measured

Calculation is based on the serial number of the cartridge.
Printer will remember (in Printer's flash memory) 2 serial numbers for Black and 2 serial numbers for Colour cartridges.

While you print the 'number of drops' (billions) remaining (for this serial number) will be decreased.
HP Printers have only warning if they think 'ink level is low' but there is no 'protection' so you can continue to print with (refilled) cartridge even if the printer show it is 'empty'

The above shows:
- When you put the Black No.15 in the other printer it will show as completely full (even if it is empty) - the printer do not know this serial number
- If you print on 'the other printer' and consume e.g. 1/3 of the 'ink level' - when you return the cartridge in the first printer it will show the same 'ink level' as it was before you removed it
- To make printers 'forget' 'ink levels' (just as experiment) - get some old empty cartridges - put 2 Black and 2 Colour (one after another of course)
then put the 'original' Black + Colour back - and the printer will show them 'full of ink' ;)
 
1079) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Upgrade from ati hd 7770? (Message 1564281)
Posted 29 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I think I am going to move my 6570 over to my second machine using the riser. It now has something like a 4650 in it which is processing seti tasks too.

You may have problems with such combination (ask in Number Crunching):
the 'Legacy' drivers that work for 4650 may not work for 6570
and vice versa - the drivers that are needed for 6570 may not work for 4650

Better try your two 6570 in that machine instead of 6570 + 4650
1080) Message boards : Number crunching : blanked AP tasks (Message 1563625)
Posted 28 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Your "only a 400 watt" PSU is probably good brand/model (and powers less demanding system)
Your PSUs of "850 watt" are not (that have to be the problem, not the FX CPU)
1081) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.42 Release Notes (Message 1563618)
Posted 28 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I've generally observed that the NVidia cards comparably scream through Cuda MB tasks like hell while taking their time on AP (although still good) - while AMD cards eat AP tasks for breakfast but really take their time chugging through MB tasks.

That's what Raistmer say from a long time:
- the most effective use of GPUs here (not 'by credit' but 'by performance'/'by work done') is to:
use NVIDIA for CUDA MultiBeam
use ATI AMD for OpenCL AstroPulse
1082) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Upgrade from ati hd 7770? (Message 1563614)
Posted 28 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Don't ditch your HD 7770 especially if you at some time want to participate in projects which need DP (or use some program that wants/uses DP)

HD 7770 "Has Double Precision Floating Point (DPFP)"
http://versus.com/en/amd-radeon-r7-265-vs-sapphire-hd-7770-vapor-x-black-diamond

Some more compare links:
http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=2040&gid2=796&compare=radeon-r7-265-vs-radeon-hd-7770-1gb-gddr5
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R7-265-vs-Radeon-HD-7770

AMD Radeon R7 265 Review
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r7-265-review,3748.html
1083) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU loops at 21.611 % for almost all units (Message 1563609)
Posted 28 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
No need

The app that do AstroPulse on OpenCL ATI AMD is only one (= the same for any OpenCL ATI AMD GPU):
AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r2399.exe

(If you open Lunatics_Win64_v0.42_setup.exe with 7-Zip you will see that)


If you use the previous installer Lunatics_Win64_v0.41_setup.exe the app in it is:
AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r1843.exe

(this older r1843 app needs deleting of .wisdom and .bin* files if you change the driver version.
Lunatics (re)install will do that for you (but edits you eventually did in app_info.xml will vanish if you (re)install Lunatics)
)
 
1084) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD and PSU's (Message 1562504)
Posted 26 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thanks FalconFly for the info

Makes it difficult to decide what to do as i all ready knew that you can overpower your system if you get a power supply to big
Working out how much this dam AMD uses at full load doesn't seem to marry up as a 850 should be enough but that does not seem the case.

Starting to wish i just bought Intel oh well i by AMD for the first time and i'm not happy

Do you understand that they lie, lie, ... and lie ?

Label is just FAKE
The inside is NOT in fact '850' and not '80+'

The way 'Cooler Power' try to imitate the Cooler Master logo speaks for itself how much you can trust such a 'brand'
http://forums.hardwaresecrets.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=422&d=1374654539

Do not trust the advertised 'specs' unless the manufacturer is reputable


Will you trust Mercedes-like logo if put on some India or China made car?
http://www.drivespark.com/four-wheelers/2014/indian-cars-fail-global-ncap-crash-test-006251.html

20 Chinese Fake Brands and Copycats
http://www.oddee.com/item_86044.aspx


P.S.
I didn't know anything about CoolerPower, I just put the name in Google and the first result was/is ...:
https://www.google.com/#q=CoolerPower

For (unknown for me) Honli I used the first result of this search:
https://www.google.com/#q=honli+psu+850w+bad
 
1085) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD and PSU's (Message 1561957)
Posted 25 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Check the links, they are both:
http://www.antec.com/product.php?id=705197&fid=5022035

...and for me auto-change to:
http://www.antec.com/?page=cookieSet&url=/product.php?id=705197&fid=5022035

... which shows the exact same home page as:
http://www.antec.com/
1086) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD and PSU's (Message 1561903)
Posted 25 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
"Cooler Power GX850. Fake wattage and Fake Brand":
http://forums.hardwaresecrets.com/showthread.php?t=16089

"Some Not Recommended Power Supply Makers" (Honli)
http://www.overclockers.com.au/wiki/Power_Supply_Unit#Some_Not_Recommended_Power_Supply_Makers
1087) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.42 Release Notes (Message 1561872)
Posted 25 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'll give a last shot setting the values to 0

Don't set TdrDelay to 0
If you want to set it to something 'normal' set it to 2 (the default)
1088) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.42 Release Notes (Message 1561842)
Posted 25 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Hm, those keys mentioned seem Windows 8 specific.

No:
"In Windows Vista and later, the operating system attempts to detect situations in which computers appear to be completely "frozen""
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff570087(v=vs.85).aspx

"Both Windows Vista and Windows 7 try to detect these problematic hang situations and dynamically recover a responsive desktop."
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/jj676805(v=vs.85).aspx


Of course TdrDelay do not exist, you have to create it.
The simplest method is to create 2 .reg files (as per my first link) and run one or the other to set/remove it.

EDIT:
You edited the text in your post to completely different!
1089) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.42 Release Notes (Message 1561837)
Posted 25 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Probably will help to set TdrDelay:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74843&postid=1553166#1553166

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff569918(v=vs.85).aspx
1090) Questions and Answers : Web site : Unable to Post (Message 1561681)
Posted 24 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
RAC: >1 is sufficient (I think)

Give the link of thread where you can't post and what you click.
(if the thread is locked no one can post)
1091) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.42 Release Notes (Message 1561378)
Posted 24 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Did you try the v7.02 app on Beta? It is based on build r2601.

The last I try was this build (AP7_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r2567_oclFFT_11.12drv_issue_fix.7z):
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/forum_thread.php?id=2185&postid=51771#51771

It works in offline test
.....

It is good the app version to fix that issue works on your system.
Your message:

Add also this issue:
AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r2058 ... r2567
Fail on Catalyst 11.12 on Windows XP

Seemed to say that all revisions from r2058 on did not work. Including AP7 r2567.
You can use app_info.xml on beta to specify whichever plan class you like.

"Including AP7 r2567":
Yes, I included this number because if you look again on the Beta thread - there is NOT ONLY ONE debug package posted with r2567
So I prefer to include r2567 in the range as only the last debug sub-version have the fix (the exe file have the same name for 'bad' r2567 and 'good' r2567)

The version included in the Lunatics Windows Installer v0.42 have this problem (AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r2399.exe)
Do not run it under Catalyst 11.12 as it will Fail


Tested only on Windows XP but seems it is driver issue and will probably be the same on other Windows:
"11.12 can't accept NULL for buffer.
I would say it's driver bug, cause nothing about it in OpenCL specs as far as I can recall."
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/forum_thread.php?id=2185&postid=51770#51770
1092) Questions and Answers : Windows : SETI@Home Bluescreen Crash (Message 1561372)
Posted 24 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Get TThrottle and don't let the CPU go over 80°C
http://efmer.com/b/

(in this case - in BOINC set 'Use 100% CPU time', TThrottle will do its own reducing of CPU time if the temperature you set (type in the box) is reached)
1093) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Screensaver not working (Message 1561369)
Posted 24 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Happens only on Intel HD Graphics, no cure unless Intel fix the OpenGL in the drivers to follow standards (it was working in old drivers (~2 years ago))

You would found the answer just by simple Google:
https://www.google.com/#q=Frequency-Time-Power+graph
1094) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU loops at 21.611 % for almost all units (Message 1561366)
Posted 24 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Did you try cold-reboot (shutdown, switch-off electricity, wait a minute, switch-on computer)

What is shown in SIV and other monitoring programs? (you never posted any pictures)

Try to just change/swap the slots of the 2 identical cards (card that is now device #0 put in PCIe slot where the working card is)

Do the problem follow the card?
Or the problem stay on the same slot? (i.e. again device #0 show problem but this time it is in fact the other card)

It may be just some dirty pin in the PCIe slot that do not make good contact.
1095) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.42 Release Notes (Message 1560979)
Posted 23 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Did you try the v7.02 app on Beta? It is based on build r2601.

The last I try was this build (AP7_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r2567_oclFFT_11.12drv_issue_fix.7z):
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/forum_thread.php?id=2185&postid=51771#51771

It works in offline test


My computer is attached to Beta but the problem is (copy from my PM to Raistmer):

I try to run some stock ATI AstroPulse tasks on SETI@home Beta but I don't receive any
It seems there is no plan class for ATI AMD + old BOINC
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/apps.php

For NVIDIA there are cuda_opencl_100 and opencl_nvidia_100
For ATI only opencl_ati_100

Do you know why there is no ati_opencl_100 (which I think is the plan class name used for old BOINC)?
If ATI + old BOINC is not banned for purpose can you ask Eric to add ati_opencl_100 plan class for AstroPulse?

Is there a way to fake the BOINC version reported to the server?


I understand Russian so Raistmer answers in a 'common' language ;)

Привет.
Я Эрику про это уже писал. Собственно, для NV план по моей просьбе он и добавил.
С АТи пока думает как лучше сделать. У АТи есть битые драйвера - как их под BOINC 6 исключать - непонятно...
1096) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Computers not following preferences (Message 1560973)
Posted 23 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I can see this:

<venue name="work">
<resource_share>8</resource_share>
<no_cpu>1</no_cpu>
<no_ati>1</no_ati>
<no_cuda>1</no_cuda>
<no_intel_gpu>0</no_intel_gpu>
<project_specific>
.......
<app_id>2</app_id>
<app_id>11</app_id>
</project_specific>
</venue>

So it looks OK, this translates to:

Use CPU no
Use ATI GPU no
Use NVIDIA GPU no
Use Intel GPU yes

SETI@home Enhanced: yes
SETI@home v7: yes
AstroPulse v6: no
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? no


So remind us - what does the computer that is put in Location/venue "work" do when the above Preferences are in effect?

I see it have SETI@home v7 v7.03 (opencl_intel_gpu_sah) tasks - so where is the problem you see?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7285344


Note: with so low <resource_share>8</resource_share> there will be times (days) when the computer will not get any tasks from SETI@home
(I presume you have Resource share 100 on PrimeGrid)


P.S.
Don't confuse SETI@home preferences and Computing preferences

Only the Computing preferences have the line:
"These preferences do not apply to Android devices"
1097) Message boards : Number crunching : Question about GPU usage and optimized apps (Message 1560966)
Posted 23 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I just started, with a fresh new BOINC manager ...

Welcome back after 1.589 years of absence ;)
1098) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.42 Release Notes (Message 1560953)
Posted 23 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
Add also this issue:
AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r2058 ... r2567
Fail on Catalyst 11.12 on Windows XP


AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r1843 works OK

Windows XP
AMD ATI Radeon HD 6570 (NI TURKS) [ASUS EAH6570/DI/1GD3(LP)]
Catalyst 11.12

==============

I reported this in PM to Raistmer on 16 Jul 2014
Next day I posted the copy of PM here (in the middle of the post):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74864&postid=1543057#1543057

Then it was also reported by TBar (18 Jul 2014):
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/forum_thread.php?id=2182&postid=51630#51630

Then the 'debug session' was here (I continued in PMs because no RAC on SETI@home Beta):
"oclFFT's -34 failure in last AP builds debugging":
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/forum_thread.php?id=2185
 
1099) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Terminated EC2 instance and return of WU (Message 1559900)
Posted 21 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
That's why I'm looking for a way to abort/cancel/terminate assigned WU from my account and allow a reassignment to others (or myself).

Sorry, not possible to abort tasks from account/web/browser (nor "to reset the project")

The situation you describe is similar as if (on local computer) HDD dies, right?
No any data from BOINC left in your possession?
Even in backup?
1100) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Terminated EC2 instance and return of WU (Message 1559847)
Posted 21 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What are 'Amazon spot instances' and how they 'work'?

I try to read this:
http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/purchasing-options/spot-instances/

... but it seems too business/economy language and I hate it and refuse to read (this is the first time in years I refuse to read something)

I think I know BOINC well but never heard of 'Amazon spot instances'
If you don't explain better I doubt anyone here will be able to help.

"Is there a way to return them manually to avoid waiting until deadline ?"
'return' what?
What do you mean by 'return'?
1101) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Estimated time to complete Astropulse tasks (Message 1559839)
Posted 21 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
AstroPulse tasks are available in large quantity usually only ~2 days a week
Consult this link:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html

Look at 'Splitter status' - right column Astropulse
If there is green - AstroPulse WUs are generated
If all is (done) - there will be 'pause' of 5-10 days with no new AstroPulse WUs

In that 'pause' period you may get 'just one or two occasionally' - they are 'old' tasks that did some kind of error on another computer so next copy was sent (this time to you)

In BOINC Manager the 'new' tasks names end with .wu_0 or .wu_1
The 'old' tasks names end with .wu_2 .wu_3 .wu_4 ...
1102) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Computers not following preferences (Message 1559357)
Posted 20 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Will changing <no_cpu> to 1 keep it that way or will a server update eventually override it?

Every update (e.g. to ask for tasks) will overwrite it


If you have set Location you have to have <venue name="XXXXXXX"> ..... </venue> section and inside it the 'special' settings for this Location/venue:
<project_preferences>
<resource_share>100</resource_share>
<no_cpu>0</no_cpu>
<no_ati>0</no_ati>
<no_cuda>0</no_cuda>
<project_specific>
<format_preset>Custom</format_preset>
        <text_style>Pillars</text_style>
        <graph_style>Surface</graph_style>
        <max_cpu>10</max_cpu>
        <grow_time>10</grow_time>
        <hold_time>5</hold_time>
        <graph_alpha>0.7</graph_alpha>
        <roll_period>0</roll_period>
        <roll_range>0</roll_range>
        <pitch_period>0</pitch_period>
        <pitch_range>0</pitch_range>
        <starfield_size>0</starfield_size>
        <starfield_speed>0</starfield_speed>
        <color_preset>Rainbow</color_preset>
        <start_hue>0</start_hue>
        <hue_change>1</hue_change>
    <app_id>2</app_id>
<app_id>11</app_id>
<app_id>12</app_id>
<allow_non_preferred_apps>1</allow_non_preferred_apps>
</project_specific>
<venue name="school">
<resource_share>500</resource_share>
<no_cpu>0</no_cpu>
<no_ati>0</no_ati>
<no_cuda>0</no_cuda>
<project_specific>
<format_preset>Custom</format_preset>
        <text_style>Pillars</text_style>
        <graph_style>Surface</graph_style>
        <max_cpu>10</max_cpu>
        <grow_time>10</grow_time>
        <hold_time>5</hold_time>
        <graph_alpha>0.7</graph_alpha>
        <roll_period>0</roll_period>
        <roll_range>0</roll_range>
        <pitch_period>0</pitch_period>
        <pitch_range>0</pitch_range>
        <starfield_size>0</starfield_size>
        <starfield_speed>0</starfield_speed>
        <color_preset>Rainbow</color_preset>
        <start_hue>0</start_hue>
        <hue_change>1</hue_change>
    <app_id>12</app_id>
<allow_non_preferred_apps>1</allow_non_preferred_apps>
</project_specific>
</venue>
</project_preferences>
1103) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Computers not following preferences (Message 1559350)
Posted 20 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
OK, I checked my files:

It seems 'Use Intel GPU' is in the 'SETI@home preferences' web page
but the value is not passed to BOINC

On SETI@home Beta it is passed (according to my files, using BOINC 6.10.58)

In account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml

<no_cpu>0</no_cpu>
<no_ati>0</no_ati>
<no_cuda>0</no_cuda>


In account_setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu_beta.xml

<no_cpu>1</no_cpu>
<no_ati>0</no_ati>
<no_cuda>0</no_cuda>
<no_intel_gpu>0</no_intel_gpu>


In account_einstein.phys.uwm.edu.xml

<no_cpu>1</no_cpu>
<no_ati>0</no_ati>
<no_cuda>0</no_cuda>
<no_intel_gpu>0</no_intel_gpu>
<no_cpu>1</no_cpu>
1104) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Computers not following preferences (Message 1559342)
Posted 20 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
When you look at this link:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php

... what is shown in 'Location' column?
1105) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Computers not following preferences (Message 1559338)
Posted 20 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... but they're both following the default preferences.

How do you know?

If you think that 'Use CPU no' will stop immediately CPU processing - it is not like that.
'Use CPU no' only stops getting new tasks for CPU (those you already have will be computed as usual)
1106) Message boards : Number crunching : I Can't connect (Message 1559221)
Posted 20 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
See if reading these have similarity to your problem:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=8972&postid=53463#53463

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=9168
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=9116
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=8385
1107) Message boards : Number crunching : CUDA Versions (Message 1559213)
Posted 20 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What I am going to do as add the
-sleep_time switch to my ap_cmdline_etc.txt file ...

There is no such switch!

ReadMe_AstroPulse_OpenCL_NV.txt

-use_sleep :Results in additional Sleep() calls to yield CPU to other processes. Can affect performance. Experimentation required.
1108) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Getting Started in being a Beta Tester (Message 1559209)
Posted 20 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You just paste this as Project URL:
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/
1109) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Computers not following preferences (Message 1559089)
Posted 19 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
Which exact Preferences "computer is also disobeying"?:
Computing preferences
SETI@home preferences

Do you have global_prefs_override.xml file?
In this case you use Local preferences

Check also the Activity Menu (to be set '... based on preferences')
BOINC Manager Menu
 
1110) Message boards : Number crunching : SIV64 (Message 1558575)
Posted 18 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
the 4 temps from left to right are, Current , Average , Minimum , Maximum

You talk about ToolTip (if mouse is over 'temp on the right side')
The ToolTip columns are clear what they mean

The question was not about the info on that ToolTip
The (already answered) question was "WHAT does this temp on the right side mean" = where this temp is read from
1111) Message boards : Number crunching : Testing Multiple GPU's Server, but Asteroid is down for several days. Other projects using cuda to crunch? (Message 1558145)
Posted 17 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
When asking questions like that don't expect people to go and check your computers
You have to stress that you use only Linux
1112) Message boards : Number crunching : SIV64 (Message 1558140)
Posted 17 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
On the left side of the SIV64 display it shows 4 temps for my 4 cpu cores.

= read from Internal CPU sensors (in the silicon of the chip, in the cores)
(this is the only temperature read by programs like CoreTemp, RealTemp, TThrottle)


Over on the right is another temperature, it is on the line with the L1 Data Cache.

= read from External sensor mounted under the CPU package on the Motherboard
(less number of programs can read (also) this type of sensors (need knowledge of many sensor chips) - SIV, Everest/AIDA64, HWiNFO32, HWMonitor, SpeedFan, Open Hardware Monitor)

Sometimes programs wrongly identify External sensors and/or read (calculate) wrong values
This is mostly due to non-standard usage of sensor chips by Motherboard manufacturers

If you have monitoring program made by your Motherboard manufacturer - use it to check is it also show 90°C
 
1113) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : app_config (Message 1558124)
Posted 17 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
Yes, no difference

If it is 0.112 this will 'free a core' (one less CPU task): 0.112*9 = 1.008 = 1
If it is 0.222 - again only 'one less CPU task': 0.222*9 = 1.998 = 1 (result is truncated to integer, not rounded)

(the above "free a core|one less CPU task" is in addition to what is already freed by "use at most XX% of the processors")


P.S.
For the 'On multiprocessors, use at most XX% of the processors' you don't necessarily need exact values like 87.5%
Anything 87.5% ... 99% will 'free a core' (99 is easier to type; on any CPU with up to 100 cores this will make BOINC to run one less CPU task)
Anything 75% ... 87.4% will 'free 2 cores' (on 8-core CPU)
etc

8 * 0.99 = 7.92 = 7 (BOINC is allowed to run only up to 7 CPU tasks)
8 * 0.88 = 7.04 = 7
8 * 0.87 = 6.96 = 6
8 * 0.77 = 6.16 = 6
 
1114) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : app_config (Message 1557845)
Posted 16 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This value do not tell anything to the app, it is only info for BOINC

With 0.1 BOINC will not do anything until the sum is >= 1
This means BOINC will run one less CPU task only after it started 10 GPU tasks 10*0.1 = 1

Again: 0.1 do not limit app to use 0.1 CPU nor it is possible for BOINC to reserve part of CPU core
BOINC do not regulate the CPU usage of any app (if 'use 100% CPU time' is set in Preferences), BOINC only starts the app and do not manage its CPU usage after that
1115) Questions and Answers : Windows : Just back to SETI ... (Message 1557259)
Posted 15 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Is there any way of ruling out duplication of processing tasks between machines with one account setup?

What do you mean by this??


Second, the screensaver. Looks nice, but starts flashing

See:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75190&postid=1552674#1552674
1116) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Estimated time to complete Astropulse tasks (Message 1557257)
Posted 15 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Can you recommend which settings to increase the chance of getting AP tasks?

SETI@home Enhanced: no
SETI@home v7: no
AstroPulse v6: yes
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? yes

SETI@home preferences
1117) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Screensaver not working (Message 1557255)
Posted 15 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... but a request to download Skype for voice chat.

That's because you did Download something (anything) from CNET !

Don't get anything from CNET (download.cnet.com) or you will be in high risk to be infested with AdWare and virus-like 'add-ons' to your system!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Download.com#Adware
http://www.reddit.com/r/geek/comments/16971n/friendly_warning_downloadcom_adware_f_you_cnet/
(do your own search for more ...)

- You were "request to download Skype for voice chat" by the CNET installer, NOT by BOINC or SETI@home
- If it was the only bad thing done to you by the CNET installer then you are very lucky
- Skype do not use "the telephone" and is mainly for text 'chat' (but can do also free video calls to other computers over Internet)


AGAIN:
Don't get anything from CNET (download.cnet.com)
 
1118) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : cal_ati - ERROR: some exception inside short FFA, probably video-driver restart, restarting app... (Message 1557253)
Posted 15 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Your GPU is many years newer:
AMD Kalindi (1457MB) OpenCL: 1.2
vs
AMD ATI Radeon HD 2300/2400/3200/4200 (RV610) (128MB)

(and I doubt you fixed your problem - it is too early to say, more time (days) for testing needed (I still think Antivirus may be involved in your case as it was many times in the past for many users))
1119) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Some error - V7.03 and V6.06 (Message 1557250)
Posted 15 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
These tasks which were reported '14 Aug 2014, 19:13:11 UTC' say:
"The process can not access the file because it is being used by another process."
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7187686&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=

(you have good tasks of the same kind before and after (maybe - still not validated) that time)
1120) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : cal_ati - ERROR: some exception inside short FFA, probably video-driver restart, restarting app... (Message 1557240)
Posted 15 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Perhaps the only you can do - disable getting tasks for ATI:
Use ATI GPU no
SETI@home preferences

This old GPU have just 128 MB RAM and I doubt it can be used here.

(in fact this app (cal_ati) will be deprecated soon when the new AstroPulse v7 will be enabled here - only GPUs which support OpenCL will be able to do AstroPulse v7, there will be no app for CAL (the old ATI way to do Computing on GPU))
1121) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Estimated time to complete Astropulse tasks (Message 1555142)
Posted 11 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
1) [Subscribe] to this thread (to be notified when new version is posted, optimized applications do not automatically update):
Optimised Applications and Other Binaries
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71867

2) The last post shows the new Lunatics Windows Installer v0.42 just came out today:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75391

Screenshots from the installer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75391&postid=1555127#1555127


I got confused because his CPU time is almost as much as his total runtime.

The new Windows (> XP) + new drivers (last ~2 years) use much CPU to support ('feed') the GPU, you need a free cores (less CPU tasks run) for GPU to be utilized better
1122) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.42 Release Notes (Message 1555131)
Posted 11 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
@Raistmer

Is the Catalyst 11.12 issue fixed or still present in the ATI builds in this v0.42 Installer?
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/forum_thread.php?id=2185

(Looking at the dates and rev. numbers I think it is still present)

Do people need warning about this?
1123) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.42 Release Notes (Message 1555127)
Posted 11 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
Screenshots from the installer:

(For info only, so you know what to expect.
Do NOT use blindly what I checked on these pictures, check what is relevant for your system )







All the screenshots I made from the installer:
http://prikachi.com/gallery_view.php?user=18390&gal=17578

 
1124) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Estimated time to complete Astropulse tasks (Message 1555024)
Posted 11 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... the fastest ones seem to be using 'AstroPulse v6 v6.04 (opencl_nvidia_100)'. What's that?
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1553105179

'opencl_nvidia_100' obviously means it runs on NVIDIA GPU using OpenCL - in this case on GeForce GTX 550 Ti
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3651226890

I don't know why your ATI AMD GPUs still didn't receive any AstroPulse tasks
The best use/effectiveness of ATI GPUs is for OpenCL AstroPulse (probably 1.5 h 'Run time' on your ATI GPU)

Yes, the "standard 6.01 version" (stock CPU application) is the slowest - it uses only FPU, not SSE
1125) Questions and Answers : Web site : Double spacing for pre element (Message 1555011)
Posted 11 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thanks
It's visibly fixed in the look of previous posts and the page code do not have <br /> in the <div class="pre"> section:

        <tr class="highlighted_row0">
        <td class="postbody">
    <p>I can confirm that, it started a few weeks ago<br />
I can confirm that, it started a few weeks ago<br />
<br />
The same in [<b></b>pre]...[/pre] :<br />
<div class="pre">
I can confirm that, it started a few weeks ago
I can confirm that, it started a few weeks ago
</div><br />
1126) Message boards : Number crunching : Considering new Graphics card (Message 1554220)
Posted 9 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Those new cards should be faster (or at least on par) AND use less power.

Why "should"?
Do you expect any new car to be faster than an old Ferrari? ;)
(and when you see some GPU looks like it is "2.5 times faster" always consider it is running one task)


PS: I just found out that GPU-Z is using around 30% of my CPU. WTF??

Use SIV instead (to monitor GPU load, temperature, MHz, ...)
http://rh-software.com/
 
1127) Message boards : Number crunching : Considering new Graphics card (Message 1554214)
Posted 9 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
PS: Is there any testing tool for astropulse, like SetiPerformance for MB?

The same SetiPerformance can be used for AstroPulse
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73524
1128) Questions and Answers : Windows : Each of my Astro pulse results get a computation error (Message 1554155)
Posted 9 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Seems to be the famous 'crash after finish'
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70742&sort_style=6&start=0
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75316&postid=1550606#1550606

If I recall correctly this crash happens when the app say to BOINC 'I finished all Computing OK, now it's your turn' but BOINC for some reason kills the app (some bug in BOINC API)

I don't know if this is fixed in the latest 'Development version' of BOINC (7.4.12) (which I think is almost ready to be promoted to 'Recommended version')
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php
1129) Message boards : Number crunching : A few Watts for *** 5 TFLOPS *** onna PC! (Message 1553534)
Posted 8 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
For single precision, like we use, these kinds of cards are not worth the money. If you need double precision then you are going to pay for it.

Or you may risk to hard-mod:
(my posts with links for 'Hacking NVidia Cards into their Professional Counterparts' and 'GeForce GTX780 to Tesla K20')
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/forum_thread.php?id=131&postid=2043#2043
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/forum_thread.php?id=233&postid=2571#2571

"The card’s driver deliberately operates GK110’s FP64 units at 1/8 of the GPU’s clock rate."
Self-cite: "artificial cripple is enabled not on the chip itself but on the PCB of the video card using resistors"
1130) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue with Seti running on Windows 8.1 (Message 1553525)
Posted 8 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Are you sure you see the real extension?
Is the file named app_config.xml or e.g. app_config.xml.txt
(if you just copy the same file from other system where it works will be best)

In which directory you put the file? (copy/paste the path here)


Seti is refusing to read the "app_config.xml" file

This file is read by BOINC, not the SETI@home applications (they do not know it exists)

The only config files that are read directly by SETI@home applications (and BOINC do not know (and can't understand) what is in them) are like these:
mbcuda.cfg
mb_cmdline_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5.txt
ap_cmdline_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI.txt


P.S.
It's easy to find which .exe uses which file, e.g.
Search the string cc_config in boinc.exe
Search the string ap_cmdline in AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r1843.exe

If you don't know what to use for string (text) search in any file you may use:
HxD - Freeware Hex Editor
http://mh-nexus.de/en/hxd/
1131) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Is there a way to automagically get average clock time for each Seti task? (Message 1553515)
Posted 8 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You may instead look here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=7354511

Average processing rate XX GFLOPS

If N is the number of simultaneously running tasks of this type:
GFLOPS * N = total 'power' of this app on this system


(averaging the Runtime column will put in average also the 'wrong' tasks, e.g. those that finish in 5 seconds
'Average processing rate' (APR) only puts in average the 'good' tasks
)
1132) Questions and Answers : Web site : Double spacing for pre element (Message 1553486)
Posted 8 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I can confirm that, it started a few weeks ago
I can confirm that, it started a few weeks ago

The same in [pre]...[/pre] :
I can confirm that, it started a few weeks ago
I can confirm that, it started a few weeks ago


Page code:
        <tr class="highlighted_row0">
        <td class="postbody">
    <p>I can confirm that, it started a few weeks ago<br />
I can confirm that, it started a few weeks ago<br />
<br />
The same in [<b></b>pre]...[/pre] :<br />
<div class="pre"><br />
I can confirm that, it started a few weeks ago<br />
I can confirm that, it started a few weeks ago<br />
</div><br />


***

The same is true for other projects (old posts) which updated their BOINC server Software:
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/forum_thread.php?id=286&postid=2982#2982


P.S.
I use the same browser version
1133) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Is there a way to automagically get average clock time for each Seti task? (Message 1553196)
Posted 7 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm not sure what you are asking, but you may try if this is it:
http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/results/delai.py
1134) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : trying to use my gpu (Message 1553191)
Posted 7 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I don't think this GPU will have usable OpenCL for BOINC (as you see the log shows only CAL - not OpenCL)

Did you get this driver?:
http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/legacy?product=legacy2&os=Windows%20Vista%20-%2032

Direct link:
http://www2.ati.com/drivers/legacy/13-9-legacy_vista_win7_32_dd_ccc_whql.exe

Did you select (check) OpenCL during install?
On the page is listed 'OpenCL(tm) Driver 10.0.937.2' but ATI AMD is notable to 'lie' in the info on pages, the OpenCL may not exist in the actual package!


See if OpenCL 'Demos' of GPU Caps Viewer work:
http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/
1135) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Some error - V7.03 and V6.06 (Message 1553180)
Posted 7 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
03.08.2014 02:15:35 | SETI@home | Finished download of setiathome_7.03_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_sah.exe
...
03.08.2014 02:15:36 | SETI@home | [error] Process creation failed: Systemet finner ikke angitt fil. (0x2) (Found no file)

How to solve this problem?

"The system can not find the file specified":
Most probably your Antivirus thinks (wrongly) the file is 'bad' and deletes (quarantines) it.
Check the log/quarantine of Antivirus
1136) Questions and Answers : Windows : Abandonned tasks ... (Message 1553173)
Posted 7 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Usually happens from bad Internet connection (connection that 'hangs' from time to time)
(or if you manually remove/add project)

Packets from your computer come out of order to SETI@home server which the server interprets as cheating.

You have 148 'Abandoned' tasks
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6960982&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=

There is no point to run those tasks if they are still in your computer - the results will not be accepted by the server and you will not get credit.
1137) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue with Seti running on Windows 8.1 (Message 1553166)
Posted 7 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
To set it (TdrDelay.reg):

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\GraphicsDrivers]
"TdrDelay"=dword:00000007


To remove it (TdrDelay-NO.reg):

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\GraphicsDrivers]
"TdrDelay"=-
1138) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows 8.1 Taskmanager/cpu utilitization (Message 1551672)
Posted 3 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
See if in Windows Power Management (I'm not sure of the exact name of this on Windows 7/8)
there is a way to select Max Performance and/or select range (low/high) of MHz the CPU can be regulated

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/9090/learning-windows-7-manage-power-settings/

I think CPU range (low/high) of MHz can be set on this screen:




It seems to be worded as "Minimum / Maximum processor state":
http://superuser.com/questions/323738/what-is-minimum-and-maximum-processor-state-in-windows-7-power-management
http://superuser.com/questions/565347/how-does-windows-limit-the-cpu-power-options-battery-saving
http://www.thewindowsclub.com/configure-power-plan-windows-8
1139) Questions and Answers : Windows : New User: Questions.. (Message 1551658)
Posted 2 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
It is very common for BOINC to be mistyped as bionic, bonic, bionc, boing, bonc, ...

;) Even in one sentence like:
"Un-installed Bonic and then re-installed Boinc"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75264


I use abbreviations, I just type b` and it becomes BOINC
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73694

 
1140) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Estimated time to complete Astropulse tasks (Message 1551650)
Posted 2 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If you give link we may check if he uses optimized apps

Or you may see by yourself if he uses 'Anonymous platform'
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1481107605

It is my task in the above link which say:
'AstroPulse v6
Anonymous platform (ATI GPU)'
1141) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU loops at 21.611 % for almost all units (Message 1551639)
Posted 2 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
what is this term "turks"?

Every GPU and CPU have Codename used internally in the developing company (Intel, AMD, NVIDIA, ...)

'Radeon HD 6000 Series' as a whole is Codenamed 'Northern Islands'
and 'Radeon HD 6500/6600' models are Codenamed 'Turks'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_HD_6000_Series#Radeon_HD_6500.2F6600

In SIV if you click [Windows] button you'll see:
Video Adapter         AMD Radeon HD 6570 (NI TURKS)


'Radeon HD 7000 Series' = 'Southern Islands'
'Radeon HD 7700' = 'Cape Verde'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_HD_7000_Series#Radeon_HD_7700

 
1142) Questions and Answers : Windows : New User: Questions.. (Message 1551347)
Posted 2 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
1) it is BOINC - not Bionic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Open_Infrastructure_for_Network_Computing




2) 4 tasks is nothing, you can have many more in wait to be started.
They are 'reserve' for when servers are on expected maintenance/backup (Tuesday) or unexpected offline.
The amount of 'reserve' work that BOINC Downloads depend on the speed of your computer and on the Setting:

Maintain enough tasks to keep busy for at least XX days

Computing preferences


3) Tasks are automatically downloaded, results uploaded and reported.
Leave BOINC for a day unattended and you'll see.

You get 'Credit' (can't be used for anything, it's just as points in a game) only after your task result is compared (validated) with the same task result done by another person's computer.
(this another person is often called 'wingman', it is random chosen)


4) the best BOINC for Android is NativeBOINC
http://nativeboinc.org/site/uncat/start

(I don't have such a device, I speak from what I have read on the forum)
 
1143) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows 8.1 Taskmanager/cpu utilitization (Message 1551332)
Posted 2 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
CPU frequency depends on what you set in BIOS

It is normal for CPU to lower the frequency if it is not fully loaded and you have Enabled SpeedStep (Intel) or Cool'n'Quiet / PowerNow! (AMD)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpeedStep
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cool'n'Quiet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerNow!

Disable these in BIOS and you will have a CPU running at constant frequency all the time.
 
1144) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU loops at 21.611 % for almost all units (Message 1551305)
Posted 2 Aug 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It seems one of your Turks GPUs (AMD Radeon HD 6570 - second device = device #1) is Overclocked to 1000Mhz
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3646888399

I'm not sure if this is possible (seems too high for Turks to work and not hang)
What is shown in SIV about GPU-1 MHz?
1145) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU loops at 21.611 % for almost all units (Message 1550316)
Posted 31 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
I may try to give some info but mind I can't test it and never done it before!

The idea is to make HD 7770 a 'strange' kind of GPU ;) (for the 'new type GPU' I use bellow the name ATI7)
NOTE: I don't see a way for good use of app_config.xml in this case, we'll use equivalent edits in app_info.xml instead.


1) I think you may just omit the <peak_flops> (but maybe estimates will be very wrong)

If you use it - start with value from here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=7304674
AstroPulse v6 (anonymous platform, ATI GPU)
Average processing rate 219.84 GFLOPS - this is 'mix' performance of 3 GPUs / 2 tasks each

For HD 7770 you may use 300e9 for start
If you use 1280e9 tasks will be estimated to run too short


2) In cc_config.xml (see BOINC Event Log for <device_nums>)
<coproc>
  <type>ATI7</type>
  <count>1</count>
  <device_nums>2</device_nums>
</coproc>



3) For app_info.xml

in SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)
- find app_info.xml , app_config.xml and all .aistub files and make backup copy (to return to old config if needed)

- find file AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI.aistub and Edit it
- Change (in all places):
<avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>

to:
<avg_ncpus>1.0</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>1.0</max_ncpus>

and:
<count>1</count>

to:
<count>0.5</count>


- Copy the edited file AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI.aistub
- Rename the copy to AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI7.aistub
- Edit the copy and change (in all places):
        <coproc>
            <type>ATI</type>
            <count>0.5</count>
        </coproc>

to:
        <coproc>
            <type>ATI7</type>
            <count>0.33</count>
        </coproc>


Now you have to have 3 .aistub files in SETI@home directory
AKv8c_SSE2.aistub (or similar - for CPU setiathome_v7)
AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI.aistub
AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI7.aistub


Exit BOINC
Run aimerge.cmd
- this will make new app_info.xml from the 3 .aistub files

Rename app_config.xml or move it away (to not be used)

Start BOINC and pray ;) (not necessarily in this order)

 
1146) Questions and Answers : Getting started : WUs for 1 project, but not another? (Message 1549478)
Posted 29 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I changed my local disk prefs to match the online values.

In this case ALL "the online values" (not only "disk prefs") will be ignored.
(only those "online values" which have no local equivalent will be used)

So from now on: use local prefs

P.S.
For more 'tech insides' view: look the files global_prefs.xml and global_prefs_override.xml
 
1147) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU loops at 21.611 % for almost all units (Message 1549462)
Posted 29 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Because astropulse is a much larger wu than MB which I was used to, I think it is just the slow pace of the % changes, that make it seem like they are not "turning over".

It's not "Because astropulse is a much larger wu".
The % progress pace is the decision of the GPU app maker for performance reasons.

Every % progress update needs communication between GPU and CPU parts of the app and then to BOINC
For performance reasons GPU app only updates % progress (and checkpoints) at the end of some big loop.
This, depending on the speed of GPU, takes 2-4 minutes (or even more on slowest GPUs)

(CPU AstroPulse apps update % progress every few seconds)
 
1148) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU loops at 21.611 % for almost all units (Message 1546607)
Posted 24 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Well I screwed up editing my own app_info.xml

What do you use to edit it?
And what was in need of edit? (what change did you wanted?)
1149) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU loops at 21.611 % for almost all units (Message 1546535)
Posted 23 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
app_info.xml is created a fresh-new every time you run Lunatics' Installer
It is created by merging all .aistub files (which were just extracted from inside of Lunatics' Installer)
Merging is performed by calling aimerge.cmd

So app_info.xml contains descriptions for only the apps you selected in last run of Lunatics' Installer

To see (out of curiosity) what's inside of Lunatics' Installer (and extract files):
http://www.7-zip.org/
1150) Questions and Answers : Preferences : How do I get more than two tasks every five minutes? (Message 1546522)
Posted 23 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'd still like to know if the KWSN Lunatics 0.41 client does AVX2 or just AVX though.

I don't think it uses AVX2 but you may ask the programmer who (I think) compiled it:
Josef W. Segur
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=276784

This part of the forum is way bellow his attention I think
He writes in Number Crunching
1151) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU loops at 21.611 % for almost all units (Message 1546495)
Posted 23 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It didn't work for me. ....

Don't mind the Darrell Wilcox's post - he answers to VERY OLD post which is totally out of date now - you have new app_info.xml with only MultiBeam CPU + AstroPulse GPU, right?


I did however figure out how to get all 3 gpu's running again with cc_config.xml

If you mean <use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus> - yes, that's it :)


I have no sli capability with these cards.

1) SLI is NVIDIA technology, ATI AMD uses the name CrossFireX
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_CrossFireX

2) No, you don't need SLI or CrossFireX for CUDA or OpenCL Computing

 
1152) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Krisiya Todorova   [Signal found but was hidden - just Listen (1st April)     9 | !9 -> ?] (Message 1546468)
Posted 23 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Ok, so I read the rest of the thread. LOL

I have had plenty of WTF moments around here. It's just been a while.

ОК
So did you see the one I made with English subtitles?

(Some people seem to not know how to switch subtitles ON so I made (now) two notes (in Annotation and in the Description) how to do it.
I didn't found a way (setting) to make the video start with subtitles ON
)
 
1153) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Aspire One 722 with integrated ATI/Radeon 6290 (Message 1545868)
Posted 22 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The AstroPulse's I saw running were running on the cpu not the gpu.

wow wow wow - I didn't check you run stock CPU AstroPulse ???
It is the slowest app in existence here - uses only FPU - no any SIMD
The Lunatics CPU AstroPulse is maybe 3-4 times faster


For "parameters" - ask Raistmer (if he have time) (do not write to long a PM)
1) he is the developer
2) he owns the same CPU
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=7779286
1154) Questions and Answers : Windows : Not downloading Tasks (Message 1545855)
Posted 22 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Strange
Did you try to re-install BOINC? (this will NOT affect tasks/settings)
This have to repair permissions.

Also see here (just a few threads next to yours):
'Unable to run BOINC as standard user'
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75200
1155) Questions and Answers : Preferences : How do I get more than two tasks every five minutes? (Message 1545843)
Posted 22 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
In this moment you have 'In progress (100)' tasks - that limit you can't overcome unless you use the GPU
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7327920&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1&appid=

(I mean - can't overcome that limit by normal means ;) )
1156) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Krisiya Todorova   [Signal found but was hidden - just Listen (1st April)     9 | !9 -> ?] (Message 1545806)
Posted 22 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
Bien sûr
Natuurlijk
Natürlich

Naturalmente!

I see this:




And if I use SecurityKISS (VPN) I see some of their servers:



 
1157) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Krisiya Todorova   [Signal found but was hidden - just Listen (1st April)     9 | !9 -> ?] (Message 1545795)
Posted 22 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What do you mean by this?
1158) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Krisiya Todorova   [Signal found but was hidden - just Listen (1st April)     9 | !9 -> ?] (Message 1545777)
Posted 22 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 

I made English subtitles if anyone wonder what they talk about:

Krisiya Todorova ("Real Talent Little girl Singing Listen by Beyonce") with English subtitles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dQL5PVCU38

I put the video as first on my playlist named simply 'Krisiya' (same link as before):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUoBueatVVKFEL7pIYtXiecb-g8N9ecGA


I may use your help, the talk in the video is very informal so is hard to translate.
If you see some strange looking English expressions in the subtitles let me know ...
1159) Questions and Answers : Windows : Not downloading Tasks (Message 1545476)
Posted 21 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
If some .exe file can't be created the first suspicion is the Antivirus
So check the Antivirus logs/quarantine
Which is the Antivirus product?

If Antivirus is the culprit you may want to:
- report to them a 'False Positive'
    This is list with links for many Antivirus vendors:
http://web.archive.org/web/20140630223530/http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/how-report-malware-or-false-positives-multiple-antivirus-vendors.htm

- and/or:
http://boincwiki.mundayweb.com/index.php?title=Add_the_BOINC_Data_directory_to_the_exclusions_of_my_antivirus_program


You can manually get the files from these links:
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86__cuda32.exe
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86__cuda42.exe
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86__cuda50.exe

 
1160) Questions and Answers : Preferences : How do I get more than two tasks every five minutes? (Message 1545454)
Posted 21 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Read my post here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75224&postid=1544654#1544654

Set it for less, e.g.: 5 Minimum + 0.01 additional days
1161) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU loops at 21.611 % for almost all units (Message 1545446)
Posted 21 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If that SetiPerformance pgm is involved I can't figure out how it would be used.

Involved in what?
It is only to test outside BOINC (no change to BOINC files/behaviour - but run it with BOINC exited)

Read again what I posted about 'Cpu' drop-down box
(use it to see how many CPU tasks you can run concurrently with GPU tasks without affecting GPU task times)


Is the 0.04 of a cpu the optimal ...

Read the edited post above.
Do a 'Cpu' drop-down box test in SetiPerformance

((as I posted already) people say 1.0 is needed on 'new' OS + 'new' driver + 'old' app - I don't have my own experience, I use 'old' OS/driver/app which don't need a free cores)

 
1162) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU loops at 21.611 % for almost all units (Message 1545430)
Posted 21 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... it won't work because you need a partial cpu for the astopulse tasks.
.....
Hope that wasn't too confusing.

Yes, it is confusing for me.

I don't see a problem.
Just select only MultiBeam for CPU and only AstroPulse for ATI AMD
(I did just that and as you know I run this combination - MB CPU + AP ATI)

Only later you need to think if you need free cores.
Free cores can be done:
- constant free: in BOINC - Use XX% of the processors
- dynamic free: in app_config.xml - % CPU per running GPU task

If you use both 'constant' and 'dynamic' BOINC will do both, e.g.:
- 'Use 99% of the processors' will free 1 core at all times
- SUM the <cpu_usage> for all running GPU tasks
      The SUM is truncated (e.g. 2.9 cores = 2 cores free)

<cpu_usage>0.04</cpu_usage> will do absolutely nothing (you have to run 25 tasks * 0.04 for BOINC to act and free 1 core)

'constant' + 'dynamic' = total cores to free


P.S.
Do you know that (at the end of running) Lunatics' Installer creates new app_info.xml
(old files are moved to oldApp_backup)

* The above was edited during/after the next post by merle van osdol (so read again ;) ) *

 
1163) Message boards : Number crunching : AP credit, can someone expain this? (Message 1545068)
Posted 20 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Read about it here: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/CreditNew

Ok, I read it, it obviously does not work as stated, if it did, similar jobs would only vary a few percent on the same machine ...


jason_gee seems to know how to fix it (in the code), the hard part is to convince Dr. A. that there exist a problem with CreditNew

Observation of CreditNew Impact (4)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73306

"the four known credit System design flaws currently under detailed analysis":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73935&postid=1498621#1498621
1164) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : BOINC manager (Message 1545054)
Posted 20 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have heard that one can remote-access BOINC on another computer. Is that true?

Try BoincTasks (the site seems offline just now):
http://www.efmer.eu/boinc/boinc_tasks/
http://www.efmer.com/b/eFMer_programs

But you will have to do 2 things on the Linux machine (in your BOINC data directory):
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Controlling_BOINC_remotely

- Copy the password from gui_rpc_auth.cfg (and put (on Windows machine) in BoincTasks - Computers tab - Password column)
- Create remote_hosts.cfg (in your BOINC data directory on the Linux machine)
with content similar to this (depend on the address range in your local network):
The-Windows-hostname

192.168.1.1
192.168.1.2
192.168.1.3
192.168.1.4
192.168.1.5
192.168.1.6
192.168.1.7
192.168.1.8
192.168.1.9

192.168.0.1
192.168.0.2
192.168.0.3
192.168.0.4
192.168.0.5
192.168.0.6
192.168.0.7
192.168.0.8
192.168.0.9

192.168.0.100
192.168.0.101
192.168.0.102
192.168.0.103
192.168.0.104
192.168.0.105
192.168.0.106
192.168.0.107
192.168.0.108
192.168.0.109
1165) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU loops at 21.611 % for almost all units (Message 1544946)
Posted 20 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
I don't think it's different from SETI@home v7 on ATI AMD

Use SetiPerformance to test (both SETI@home v7 and AstroPulse)
There is 'Cpu' drop-down box - select how many CPU tasks to run (in the test) concurrently with GPU tasks

 
1166) Questions and Answers : Preferences : How do you set BOINC to download several data packages to process offline a few days? (Message 1544654)
Posted 19 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
"Maintain enough tasks to keep busy for at least XX days"
Computing preferences

"Minimum work buffer" or "Connect about every" (wording changes between BOINC versions)
Local preferences

Set it on the web or locally - use the place you used before (the web settings will be ignored if you ever clicked OK on local Preferences)
 
1167) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : CUDA cores and cuda tasks (Message 1544644)
Posted 19 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
You were told to make app_config.xml file, NOT app_info.xml

And don't copy what you see on the above help pages, it will of course not work
It is general description of what may be in the file, NOT a file ready to use here.

This app_config.xml is for SETI@home (if you want to tweak it - ask what the values mean):
<app_config>
	<app>
		<name>setiathome_v7</name>
		<gpu_versions>
			<gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
			<cpu_usage>0.2</cpu_usage>
		</gpu_versions>
	</app>
	<app>
		<name>astropulse_v6</name>
		<gpu_versions>
			<gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
			<cpu_usage>1.0</cpu_usage>
		</gpu_versions>
	</app>
</app_config>
1168) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : CUDA cores and cuda tasks (Message 1543591)
Posted 18 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
And one hour later (17 Jul 2014, 20:58:56 UTC) you have 20 GPU tasks ...
1169) Message boards : Number crunching : To: High RAC tweakers - my challenge (Message 1543179)
Posted 17 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What Darrell didn't mention is that he is arguing that leaving a CPU core free to feed a GPU for maximum performance isn't necessary, ...

In fact he frees a core, one core per 5 GPU tasks (per his app_config.xml)
1170) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Gpu has started rotating thru multiple wu's instead of sticking to 1 or 2 wu's? (Message 1543158)
Posted 17 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Do they run as 'High priority'?

If so BOINC just thinks they will not finish in time.
After a while of running one task BOINC see it progresses well and will finish in time.
So starts next task it think is in danger to miss the deadline.
1171) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU loops at 21.611 % for almost all units (Message 1543057)
Posted 17 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Still can't get any gpu work.

The server keeps info for every app you run:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=7304674

e.g.
SETI@home v7 (anonymous platform, ATI GPU)
Max tasks per day 1
Consecutive valid tasks 0

It takes a day I think for 'Max tasks per day' to be reset to 100 (?)
Every successfully done task (validated) multiplies by 2 the 'Max tasks per day'
2 4 8 16 32 64 (so you need a few good tasks to up the Max)

See my:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=4832843


Then I went to gpu's with astropulse and that worked, but then I thought I didn't want to use up an entire cpu thread with the astropulse wu like you had in your sample app_config so I changed over to using the gpu's for v7

Wrong
Both AstroPulse and MultiBeam SETI@home v7 on ATI AMD "use up an entire cpu thread"

This is true when you use:
'new' Windows (>Windows XP) + 'new' ATI AMD drivers (>Catalyst 12.4 ?) + 'old' (current) ATI AMD apps
This (will) change with newer ATI AMD apps

(I don't need a free core because I use Windows XP + Catalyst 11.12)

Yesterday I tested (not in BOINC but in benchmark) the new (beta?):
AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r2180 but it fail on my system

I sent a PM to Raistmer with the log:
(still no answer, he must be busy or on vacation ;) )

" 
Error in ap oclFFT_1: -34
ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clFFT_ExecuteInterleaved_ap' call failed (-34) in file ..\..\ap_science.cpp near line 2653.
Waiting 30 sec before restart...

The bin files generated:
AstroPulse_Kernels_r2180.cl_Turks.bin_V6_TWIN_FFA_CAL141646
AP_clFFTplan_Turks_32768_r2180.bin_CAL141646

OpenCL 1.1 AMD-APP (831.4)
(the AstroPulse_OpenCL_ATI_ReadMe.txt do not say what AMD-APP version is needed or I can't see it)


AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r1843 works OK

Windows XP
AMD ATI Radeon HD 6570 (NI TURKS) [ASUS EAH6570/DI/1GD3(LP)]
Catalyst 11.12

Full log:
http://pastebin.com/LtegsyGS
"

(the error is near the end of log)


P.S.
You probably are in the impression that SETI@home v7 do not need a free core because CUDA apps on NVIDIA do not need it

 
1172) Message boards : Number crunching : CPU or GPU that is the question (Message 1542801)
Posted 16 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Could you point me to some place where I can get more "instrumentation"

"instrumentation" is here:
Test and Benchmark Tools - Downloads
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=5
1173) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : What video programs do you have ot install to allow Seti to use the gpu? (Message 1542793)
Posted 16 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
One system keeps re-installing the HD Audio drivers

Yes, Windows do that
If you don't like this you may try to disable the device (HD Audio on the video card) in Device Manager


So apparently as long as you have the basic gpu device driver in place Seti will happily use your gpu.

I don't know what you consider as "basic gpu device driver" but:
- on NVIDIA you need CUDA and OpenCL drivers
- on ATI AMD you need OpenCL drivers

(I don't know how it is on newer driver packages, in the past the ('custom', 'advanced') selection to install CUDA and/or OpenCL is separate from 'Video driver')
1174) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Aspire One 722 with integrated ATI/Radeon 6290 (Message 1542790)
Posted 16 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Brook+ app is slow, it is named also as Hybrid as it do only ~ 20% of computing on the GPU and the rest 80% on the CPU (so since you have OpenCL GPU no point to use Hybrid AP)

What you can do safely - edit app_config.xml to run only one AstroPulse task (and the 2 tasks will be finished one after another).
(better exit BOINC, edit, start BOINC)

This APU is too weak to run 2 - that is the reason for so long running time (the 2 apps/tasks fight for GPU/RAM).
1175) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU loops at 21.611 % for almost all units (Message 1542778)
Posted 16 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I am having trouble reestablishing myself with lunatics.

What did you do (1, 2, 3, ...) so far?

Some errors seem to be server or network related.
The computer need restart
(I think there were video driver crash - those AstroPulse tasks that end in seconds with strange infinity values 'Single pulse: peak_power=1.#IO;')
1176) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : What video programs do you have ot install to allow Seti to use the gpu? (Message 1542516)
Posted 16 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
None are necessary for SETI@home
You can search on Google what they are.

I think:
3D vision - for 3D glasses and monitors

GeForce Experience
http://www.geforce.com/geforce-experience

HD Audio driver - to send Audio to TV via HDMI

PhysX - some games (Switchball) and demos (FluidMark) need it


I don't think they consume any noticeable CPU/GPU/RAM while not in use (but you may check the list of processes to see in your case)
 
1177) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ap_cmdline_6.04_windows_intelx86_opencl_nvidia.txt (Message 1542504)
Posted 16 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Any ideas?

For low-end GPUs (APU, GT210) - do not tweak, use defaults
Run one task/GPU with default settings

What you see posted for GTX660 will not work on GT210 (what works for Ferrari will hardly work on Oldsmobile)


P.S.
No need to search or post the docs - all are in Lunatics' Installers

* Get the Installer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71867&postid=1375943#1375943

http://mikesworldnet.de/download.html

* Get 7-Zip
http://www.7-zip.org/


Use 7-Zip to unpack all in the Installer or only the docs:
...\Lunatics_Win32_v0.41_setup.exe\$_OUTDIR\docs\

Newer versions of the docs are found in files like (from mikesworldnet.de):
MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r2170.7z
AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r2180.7z

 
1178) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU loops at 21.611 % for almost all units (Message 1542230)
Posted 15 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
For the TThrottle problem maybe you have to contact the author:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=8906489

He probably will want to see the info from Logging tab with Debug checked


Lunatics:
Stock GPU apps are (almost) identical these days to the optimized (= lab accepted to use the Lunatics as stock)
- see my post with screenshots:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75115&postid=1541308#1541308

Unstable? No

Improvement:
- CPU apps are faster (150-200%)
- you can choose which exactly apps to run:
    e.g. on CPU I run only MultiBeam (SETI@home v7) SSE2
    on ATI AMD GPU I run only AstroPulse (the most effective use of ATI)
- you may install newer Lunatics versions (manually, or wait for the next installer) without waiting for the lab for years to update the stock apps
(e.g. newer ATI AMD apps do not need a free CPU core per every task (I think 1 free CPU core is enough for many running GPU tasks))

Downsides:
Apps are not auto-updated (in fact I see this as an Improvement ;) )


P.S.
Is this "another gpu temp pgm" Open Hardware Monitor?

 
1179) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU loops at 21.611 % for almost all units (Message 1542189)
Posted 15 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
At what point do you consider a card is being overclocked over 400 or over 650?

Of course over 650


TThrottle only show one of my two gpu temps. Why?

Which graph?
Check 'Logging' tab in Debug mode
What is shown by SIV ?


My cpu's show a range in the low sixties. What temp is considered to high?

Depend on the CPU
For your Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz
http://ark.intel.com/products/37147/Intel-Core-i7-920-Processor-8M-Cache-2_66-GHz-4_80-GTs-Intel-QPI

TCASE 67.9°C

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i7/Intel-Core%20i7-920%20AT80601000741AA%20(BX80601920%20-%20BXC80601920).html

Maximum operating temperature 67.9°C

This is the Maximum operating temperature as measured on the center-top of the CPU case/package (where heatsink sits)

You may see 3 different CPU temperature measurement sensors/readings (not all are available in every case):
- 'core' (internal CPU sensors - 1 per core)
- 'package' (internal CPU sensor - 1 per CPU chip, somewhere in the silicon of the chip)
- 'CPU' (external sensor on the motherboard under the CPU - SIV can read and show these at the rightmost + real CPU voltage and fan speed)

(not every program names the sensors/readings the same, there is no standard)


To understand how Intel CPU sensors work read all my posts here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=63650&postid=1094579#1094579

 
1180) Message boards : Number crunching : Optimised apps GeForce G210 (Message 1541308)
Posted 14 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I wonder if creating an app_info.xml file for the stock CUDA apps ...

Stock CUDA apps are identical these days to the optimized (that are inside Lunatics_Win??_v0.41_setup.exe)
(the .exe files differ in filenames and size - the stock is UPX compressed)

Right-Click your Stock CUDA apps .exe -> Properties ...

Screenshots from Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda32.exe and this stock file:
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86__cuda32.exe




 
1181) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD FireStream 9250 (Message 1541279)
Posted 14 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
Dream on

Radeon X1000 Series is 3 generations older than what may (just may) work for SETI@home (Radeon HD 4000 Series)
And even Radeon HD 4000 is old (for driver support)

Edit:
But if you get (the post is not clear for me) some model equivalent to Radeon HD 4850 it may work (I think with 'legacy' drivers)

 
1182) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU loops at 21.611 % for almost all units (Message 1541254)
Posted 14 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I discovered two settings in the bios that needed to be adjusted.

I wonder which BIOS settings that may be?

P.S.
Using the opportunity to present you another good monitoring/info program:
SIV - System Information Viewer (you need only siv.zip)
http://rh-software.com/

 
1183) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Krisiya Todorova   [Signal found but was hidden - just Listen (1st April)     9 | !9 -> ?] (Message 1541207)
Posted 13 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I found better quality (just switch off Annotations and choose HD)

Krisiya (Link to 'Menu' to choose from 16 videos currently):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUoBueatVVKFEL7pIYtXiecb-g8N9ecGA


She can sing :-)

And you are american, how you can say that! ;)
Americans usually just say "what an accent" and ... "Move along... move along"

Thanks (because I love Krisiya (as a daughter, as a daughter! ... ;) ))

 
1184) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Krisiya Todorova   [Signal found but was hidden - just Listen (1st April)     9 | !9 -> ?] (Message 1541187)
Posted 13 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Ok, I think, maybe, I'm not sure..., I see a connection...

Connection?
You mean between Krisiya and SETI? Krisiya and aliens? ...

I wanted to post something for 1 April
And I wanted to present Krisiya to this community in some way
Then I combined the 2-in-1 (maybe in a peculiar way)

So probably there is no connection ... but who knows for sure ;)

 
1185) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Krisiya Todorova   [Signal found but was hidden - just Listen (1st April)     9 | !9 -> ?] (Message 1540518)
Posted 12 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I found better quality (just switch off Annotations and choose HD)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUoBueatVVKFEL7pIYtXiecb-g8N9ecGA
1186) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU loops at 21.611 % for almost all units (Message 1540400)
Posted 12 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Probably you mean "When I press Reset button in MSI Afterburner my system crashes"

System crash is always scary, so only in case you want to continue:

0) what MHz are shown by MSI Afterburner (in left and right) just after you started it after a reboot?

1) Try different version of MSI Afterburner

2) see that no other (monitoring) tool (e.g. from XFX or GPU-Z) that accesses GPU runs (they may conflict) (best if you exit all other programs that can be exited)

3) do the changes on idle GPU (right graph in MSI Afterburner will show low MHz)

4) Uncheck Synchronize ... here (and choose which GPU to tweak):
(I don't have 2 GPUs and am unsure how it will look and work)

1187) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Krisiya Todorova   [Signal found but was hidden - just Listen (1st April)     9 | !9 -> ?] (Message 1540370)
Posted 12 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Can I have a pint of whatever you guys are on please :-)

No, I'm not drunk ;)

The video (new link, the old links were deleted by the BG TV named bTV)
have now 1,369,185 views (9,121 likes) and hundreds of comments from all over the world:

"Real Talent Little girl Singing Listen by Beyonce"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow14mwEwVnc


(Uploader nickname: Nick Brown - this video makes 98% of his whole video 'traffic':
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj5ghnJzD61Xi0CtSVfOMVg/videos?sort=p&view=0&flow=grid
)

*****

Of course you may prefer to Listen to the bearded thing that goes by name Conchita wurst on Eurovision
https://www.google.com/#q=eurovision%202014%20winner

(I can't know how's it in the west but only a very drunk Bulgarian can vote for *this* by mistake)

 
1188) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU loops at 21.611 % for almost all units (Message 1540296)
Posted 12 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
What happens when you press button Reset in MSI Afterburner ?
(what core/memory MHz it sets)

There seem to be only 3 cards with this chip:
http://xfxforce.com/en-us/products/all-previous-gpus#*

... and only one with 1GB RAM which have to be your model:
http://xfxforce.com/en-us/products/all-previous-gpus/amd-radeon-hd-6570-core-edition-hd-657x-zdf2

650 MHz Core Clock
1GB 64-Bit DDR3
1000 MHz Effective Memory Clock

These have to be the defaults (it's normal when the GPU is idle to have much lower MHz, but at load it have to switch to the above values)
Why 650 MHz is the max in MSI Afterburner I don't know

! Make sure that in Catalyst Control Center - AMD Overdrive you do NOT apply any Overclock (else they will fight with MSI Afterburner)

My is grayed-out as I never used it (by clicking the golden-key icon):



 
1189) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU loops at 21.611 % for almost all units (Message 1540080)
Posted 11 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
Strange!

The default for AMD Radeon HD 6570 is 650 MHz for GPU and 900 MHz for DDR3 RAM (and higher for DDR5)
http://www.amd.com/en-gb/products/graphics/desktop/6000/6570#2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_HD_6000_Series#Northern_Islands_.28HD_6xxx.29_Series

MSI Afterburner have button Reset which should set the defaults.

The way it looks for me (Overclocked):



 
1190) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU loops at 21.611 % for almost all units (Message 1539959)
Posted 11 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
MSI and EVGA are makers of their own cards.

But MSI Afterburner and EVGA Precision work on every card (as you see I have ASUS EAH6570/DI/1GD3(LP))
I am inclined to believe (without proof) that this is demanded by the (Russian) programmer.

MSI Afterburner and EVGA Precision are based on RivaTuner (my post from 2011 with screenshots):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65894&postid=1165854#1165854

Read the short "Interview: Alex 'Unwinder' / RivaTuner":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65894&postid=1165516#1165516

The RivaTuner files are used by both tools:
http://prikachi.com/images/327/3969327T.png

 
1191) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU loops at 21.611 % for almost all units (Message 1539888)
Posted 11 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The print out of your performance pgm

The package you used is made/collected by me but the program itself is not mine.

SetiPerformance is by eFMer (Fred Melgert):
http://efmer.com/forum/index.php?topic=974.0
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=8906489

eFMer also makes other great programs which I use (TThrottle, BoincTasks)
http://www.efmer.com/b/


10 July 2014 - 14:48:29 Set: MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_r1843 , Exe: MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_r1843.exe

For AMD Radeon HD 6570 you should use (in the test and Lunatics' Installer):
MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r1843.exe

It gives 10-20% faster times.


I have decided to run at .33

If you feel too much lag (using the Windows Desktop) make it 0.5


*** P.S.

My AMD Radeon HD 6570 [ASUS EAH6570/DI/1GD3(LP)] was very easy to Overclock

It runs stable at 800/1050 MHz (GPU/DDR3) with no voltage change (which is not possible on my card)
GPU temperature in hot summer (30°C in the room) at full load do not exceed 55°C

The only program that manages to heat the GPU >70°C is OCCT 3.1.0 (but not the later versions OCCT 4.x)
Five versions of FurMark (1.8.2 ... 1.13.0) do not push it over 65°C


For the overclock I use MSI Afterburner 2.2.4 (I didn't tested newer versions)
http://event.msi.com/vga/afterburner/download.htm

MSI Afterburner 2.2.4 (not available anymore on msi.com - file from pc-driverdown is the same as the one I have from msi.com since 12.10.2012)
http://www.pc-driverdown.com/msi-afterburner-2-2-4-windows-vista7xp/
Direct link: http://down3.driversdown.com/Bios/MSIAfterburnerSetup224.zip

(another feature of MSI Afterburner is it makes great video capture (MJPG) from games)

 
1192) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU loops at 21.611 % for almost all units (Message 1539257)
Posted 10 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This one is missing the start tag.
Get the file I linked in edit on previous post.
1193) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU loops at 21.611 % for almost all units (Message 1539250)
Posted 10 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
...
< /gpu_versions>
< /app>
< /app_config>

And why you have spaces added in tags?

Have to be:
</gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>

Get this file and see inside (and use as template to edit):
http://www.arkayn.us/seti/app_config.7z

 
1194) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics' GPU app & switched users (Message 1539091)
Posted 10 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Odd. For sometime I have been logging onto my admin account, starting bonic.
Then using the switch user screen to logon to my standard/limited account. And I haven't had any problems.

Do you do this in Windows XP or 7
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=190117
1195) Questions and Answers : Windows : C-50 and AMD C-60 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics [Family 20 Model 2 Stepping 0] owners (Message 1539083)
Posted 10 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I also learned that this might help: app_config.xml
;;
;; This supposed to deal with AP being starved for CPU time
;;
<app_config>
...

You can't put comments like this inside app_config.xml
; is not the XML way

<!-- This is XML comment -->

<!--
These are
many
XML comments
-->


(and I'm not sure that even this proper XML syntax will be accepted by all BOINC versions)
1196) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Screen Saver switches tasks every few seconds. (Message 1539078)
Posted 10 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
- The post you answer is from 18 Apr 2014
- The issue (bug) is with several 'new' BOINC versions and unrelated to Preferences
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74807&postid=1519060#1519060

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=8915&postid=52638#52638
1197) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : AMD A-10 7850K. (Message 1539075)
Posted 10 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I would love to get the Setiperformance testing software but the download site is setup to spam all over the place. And my browser barfed them back at it.


I don't see any spam/ads because I use:
AdBlock
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/adblock/gighmmpiobklfepjocnamgkkbiglidom/details
1198) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU loops at 21.611 % for almost all units (Message 1539074)
Posted 10 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
I run 2 AstroPulse on my HD 6570
(AMD ATI Radeon HD 6570 (NI TURKS) [ASUS EAH6570/DI/1GD3(LP)] - I run it at 800/1050 MHz)

Look for app_config.xml

Amend it to your needs:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74762


"is there any increase in total output" - to test see here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75108&postid=1536704#1536704

 
1199) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Aspire One 722 with integrated ATI/Radeon 6290 (Message 1539066)
Posted 10 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... but that for astropulse_v6 looks strange, try 1.0

1.0 and 1.1 will practically have the same effect (BOINC will free 1 core per running AstroPulse GPU task in both cases)
Unless you run 10 AstroPulse GPU tasks in which case <cpu_usage>1.1</cpu_usage> will free 11 cores (instead of 10 with 1.0)
("free 1 core" = run 1 less CPU task)

If you run 9 AstroPulse GPU tasks: 9 * 1.1 = 9.9 which is truncated to 9 (BOINC will free 9 cores (if they exist))
1200) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Aspire One 722 with integrated ATI/Radeon 6290 (Message 1538025)
Posted 8 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So I got busy a couple of minutes ago, changing the video to almost completly performance mode ...

I may need to re-boot to free up the memory. Right now it doesn't look like it has decreased any.

I don't think you can increase the RAM allocated to video in Windows

You have to increase the video RAM in the BIOS
https://www.google.com/#q=increase+video+RAM+in+BIOS
1201) Message boards : Number crunching : Gpu 0.00% help please (Message 1537388)
Posted 7 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Edit: Apropos, my client_state.xml file, where that info should be coming from, says <gpu_active_frac>0.563743</gpu_active_frac> on a <active_frac>0.591852</active_frac> on a total <on_frac>0.162661</on_frac> :)

And my BOINC 6.10.58 do not record <gpu_active_frac> at all:
<time_stats>
    <on_frac>0.886804</on_frac>
    <connected_frac>0.999868</connected_frac>
    <active_frac>0.489243</active_frac>
    <last_update>1404425208.281250</last_update>
</time_stats>
1202) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU loops at 21.611 % for almost all units (Message 1537368)
Posted 7 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 
Try to set TdrDelay (to more than 2 seconds which is the default on Windows 8)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72035&postid=1383819#1383819
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72035&postid=1384758#1384758

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74512&postid=1505950#1505950
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74843&postid=1523444#1523444

 
1203) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Tutorials and/or samples of: cc_config.xml and app_info.xml (Message 1537334)
Posted 7 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The related question is, is there any "standard" not to difficult to use "benchmark" that will offer advice on what number of tasks will maximize my through put?

Yes, there is
Already posted in answer to your post (10 hours before you asked this):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75108&postid=1536503#1536503
1204) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Aspire One 722 with integrated ATI/Radeon 6290 (Message 1537330)
Posted 7 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
But the GPU is quite muscular.

Really?

It have:
Shader cores: 80
Base frequency (MHz): 276
Maximum frequency (MHz): 400

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bobcat/AMD-C%20Series%20C-60.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors#.22Ontario.22_.2840_nm.29


But it can work (slowly) if you increase the video RAM in BIOS ("256MB, 223MB available" is too small)
1205) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : AMD A-10 7850K. (Message 1536704)
Posted 6 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Look also here for A10-7850K (See how it's written '8 CUs'):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Accelerated_Processing_Unit_microprocessors#.22Kaveri.22_.282014.2C_28_nm.29

"Note 2:
Unified shader processors (USPs): Texture mapping units (TMUs): Render output units (ROPs).
1 CU (Compute Unit) = 64 USPs: 4 TMUs : 1 ROPs
"


To test for the optimal number of GPU tasks get this package:
SetiPerformance 1.8 + Added apps from Lunatics v0.41
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73524
1206) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : AMD A-10 7850K. (Message 1536671)
Posted 6 Jul 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So by this analogy you should be able to easily run nearly 32 cuda-equivalent tasks on 8 ATI-type gpus.

No
This is one GPU, one video card
It will be no faster than Radeon HD 7750 or even HD 6670 (combined with e.g. Athlon II X4)
Don't expect miracles, just consider the price of this APU to combined price of CPU+GPU of similar specs

No more than 2 OpenCL tasks will be able to run efficiently on the GPU


(I know you will continue to hope and ask again.
But do you consider AMD so stupid to sell super-computer for $170 ?
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bulldozer/AMD-A10-Series%20A10-7850K.html

How they will sell Radeon R9 290X then?:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units#Volcanic_Islands_.28Rx_200.29_Series

Radeon R9 290X have 2816 'cores' = (maybe?) 44 'compute units' (CUs)

My Radeon HD 6570 have 480 'cores' = 6 'compute units' (CUs)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3592935317
)
1207) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : BOINC not using CUDA after upgrade to Ubuntu 14.04 (Message 1519844)
Posted 22 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You can test the functionality of OpenCL by LuxMark
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74710&postid=1513143#1513143
1208) Questions and Answers : Windows : Stalled many tasks in the Validation pending (19) (Message 1519610)
Posted 22 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

19 is "many"?

Validation pending (2200) :
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6896017&offset=0&show_names=0&state=2&appid=

"month ago" is too long?
Some WUs are unfortunate to get too many errors and are sent to yet another computer (which may mean many months)

This is on 7th 'try':
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1488527152

Some more normal delays:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1488069629
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1475573923

And because of server bug some (a few) may hang for years:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1036247847
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1307075633

1209) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : BOINC not using CUDA after upgrade to Ubuntu 14.04 (Message 1519585)
Posted 22 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

When you ask questions it is better to post your startup log (as OP) - this gives the tech people more info than rephrasing with own words


You can't expect to get CUDA work from SETI on Linux as there is no such stock app:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

(there are Linux apps:
- for AstroPulse OpenCL on ATI and NVIDIA GPUs
- for SETI@home v7 OpenCL on ATI
)


BOINC keeps asking for (non-existent) CUDA work/app ~once a day because the project may some day supply CUDA stock app


Note:
If BOINC detects CUDA there is a way to run SETI@home v7 CUDA app/tasks on Linux by manually installing third-party apps:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74031&postid=1475186#1475186
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74153&postid=1487416#1487416
(and continue reading a few of my next posts in the above link)


BOINC GPU Detection in Linux:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74746

(I'm not a Linux guy, read for yourself if the above is relevant (only if you have problem with BOINC GPU Detection))


In the past you used third-party apps / anonymous platform / app_info.xml
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/anonymous_platform
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=5167888

Visible as:
'SETI@home Enhanced (anonymous platform, NVIDIA GPU)' == CUDA app
'AstroPulse v6 (anonymous platform, NVIDIA GPU)' == OpenCL app

1210) Message boards : Number crunching : my friend's Windows problem (Message 1519090)
Posted 21 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I searched for it myself. It should be F12.

It depends on the BIOS
For me (AMI BIOS) the boot menu is invoked by F11
BIOS says this in the startup messages
Or read the motherboard manual

"The key used to access the Boot Menu may vary. Some commonly used Boot Menu keys are F2, F10, F11, and ESC"
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/setting-usb-boot-options-phoenix-award-bios/
1211) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Astropulse tasks (Message 1519076)
Posted 21 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You already have one AstroPulse task (Sent 19 May 2014, your post 20 May 2014)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7270946&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=12

To increase your chances of getting AstroPulse tasks - change settings to:

SETI@home Enhanced: no
SETI@home v7: no
AstroPulse v6: yes
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? yes

(the above will not stop you getting 'SETI@home v7')


If you have a capable GPU it will be much faster for AstroPulse, there are Linux apps for AstroPulse OpenCL on ATI and NVIDIA GPUs
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

BOINC do not detect a capable GPU ("Coprocessors ---") which may mean: old GPU, drivers do not support CUDA or OpenCL, BOINC can't find OpenCL drivers on too new Linux, ...
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74746

1212) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Android app keep timing without really crunching (Message 1519062)
Posted 21 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Depends what you mean by "progress"

You can't lose 'Credit' in any way (even of you throw the device in the ocean ;) )
If you mean 'progress' on the currently running task - I don't know (I don't have Android device to test)
But your first post shows that the task is not making any progress so you have nothing to lose if you switch now.
1213) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC sreensaver bonked (Message 1519060)
Posted 21 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Advice?
Use Ctrl+F on this forum ('Questions and Answers : Windows') and paste:
Screensaver

This will find 2 relevant threads (but not yours, it say "sreensaver")

Or for many more results (some too old to be of use):
https://www.google.com/#q=boinc+screensaver+flashing

1214) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC fails to stop processing after "File/Exit BOINC" is clicked during startup (Message 1518615)
Posted 20 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Then probably in the first few seconds after BOINC is started boinc.exe and/or the apps are in some initializing phase and still don't listen to the commands from boincmgr.exe

"It did exit, closing the window" = boincmgr.exe exited
"... but the tasks continued to initialize and run." = boinc.exe did not receive the command
(boincmgr.exe gives-up in a few seconds if boinc.exe do not respond and exits)


Did you try to use boinccmd.exe instead?
Shortcut with command similar to this:
.....\BOINC\boinccmd.exe --set_run_mode never 333


(boinccmd.exe sends commands to running boinc.exe - it does not need boincmgr.exe to run)
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Boinccmd_tool

1215) Questions and Answers : Windows : "Tools" NOT saving value in cc_config BOINC 7.2.42 (X64) (Message 1518611)
Posted 20 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You say "I have a kludge to work around, but would prefer a clean fix"

What is the "kludge"?
Probably some scheduled .cmd file that parses and recreates cc_config.xml if needed?
1216) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU requirements? (Message 1518600)
Posted 20 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

500 MB video RAM is OK

What GPU, OS, driver version?

About 'too new' GPUs and drivers (and a possible fix/workaround):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74585&postid=1504605#1504605

1217) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Screensaver (Message 1518599)
Posted 20 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Fix = "So until that time, either return to 7.2.33, or turn the BOINC screen saver off."
1218) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Android app keep timing without really crunching (Message 1518597)
Posted 20 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Try NativeBOINC - it uses different optimized SETI@home apps:
http://nativeboinc.org/site/uncat/start
1219) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Wish: Work units. (Message 1518593)
Posted 20 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
439 SETI@home 5/17/2014 7:35:33 AM No tasks are available for SETI@home Enhanced
440 SETI@home 5/17/2014 7:35:33 AM Tasks for CPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them

Check your SETI@home preferences:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

'SETI@home Enhanced' do not exist for a long time

Check the 'Location' on the bottom of this page:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7179664

1220) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Work still running after deadline date (Message 1517791)
Posted 18 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Since your CPU have 'Number of processors 8':
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=1787453

... I wonder how they could be "waiting to start"?
If they are past deadline they must had been running in 'High priority' mode

Do you see 8 tasks Running (of any kind)?
1221) Questions and Answers : Windows : "Tools" NOT saving value in cc_config BOINC 7.2.42 (X64) (Message 1517789)
Posted 18 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
OK, you found a bug in BOINC - which is good so it can be fixed.

But maybe it's easier to just edit cc_config.xml with Notepad

Or use this program:
http://code.google.com/p/boinc-client-configuration/

I don't know how good/convenient it is at setting <exclusive_app>filename.exe</exclusive_app> and <exclusive_gpu_app>important.exe</exclusive_gpu_app>
1222) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC fails to stop processing after "File/Exit BOINC" is clicked during startup (Message 1517785)
Posted 18 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
After rebooting, and while BOINC is starting, clicking "File" and "Exit BOINC" causes the window to close, but it doesn't stop running tasks when the "Stop running tasks when you exit the BOINC manager" has been selected.

What means "while BOINC is starting"?
Do you try to exit in the first seconds after BOINC is started?
If you wait e.g. one minute after BOINC is started do you have the same problem at exit?

Which Computer ID
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=61201
1223) Questions and Answers : Windows : Tasks disappear when I reboot computer, then reappear when I reinstall BOINC (Message 1515889)
Posted 14 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Is "drive D" real HDD ? (not e.g. mapped network drive)
Do you install so BOINC Data directory is a subdirectory on D: (e.g. D:\BOINC-Data ) and NOT the root of D: (you can't use D:\ as BOINC Data directory)

Also BOINC may have trouble if you put BOINC Data directory as a subdirectory in the BOINC Program directory ( D:\BOINC\BOINC-Data )

What means "BOINC starts, but without any tasks"? (does BOINC say something? anything in Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E) ?)

(it seems BOINC installer have trouble setting the BOINC Data directory permissions)
1224) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Work still running after deadline date (Message 1515885)
Posted 14 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Your computer do not show (on web) to have any AstroPulse tasks:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=1787453

So this AstroPulse WU (if it exist locally in your BOINC) was probably done already by other people's computers and removed from your list.
The result from you will not be accepted.

If the AstroPulse task is "behind the deadline" for more than a few days - abort it
(or if it is near finish at >95% you may out of curiosity complete it and see the response of the server in the Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E))
1225) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Show graphics (Message 1515883)
Posted 14 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
https://www.google.com/#q=SETI+stop+Rotating
1226) Questions and Answers : Windows : Problem with Screensaver (Message 1514656)
Posted 11 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I might be switching back to the .39 version then.

No, it's BOINC 7.2.33 and before (".39 version" have the problem)
(links to get it? - read again the second link)


Is there any possibility to do that without losing the progress on projects

I think you can just install BOINC 7.2.33 over your current BOINC (without losing the progress)
But it's your decision, you may wait until climateprediction task is finished and reported.
1227) Message boards : Number crunching : Dual graphics card issues (Message 1514312)
Posted 10 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I use the "Duplicate these displays" to get my iGPU working with my GTX550Ti, and no possibility of losing my mouse or windows.

Your computer with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti do not show any other GPU:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7022545

Do you do the same "Duplicate these displays" on your other mixed GPU systems?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7265951
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7155656
1228) Questions and Answers : Windows : Problem with Screensaver (Message 1514307)
Posted 10 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Why do you think the Screensaver depends on OpenCL ?
It uses OpenGL

And if you "experience the same "flickering" as Manowar" then yes "this is the same problem, that Ageless mentioned"
(but you have 'Computers - hidden' so we can't know what BOINC version do you use)

Read:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=9009
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=9145
1229) Questions and Answers : Windows : Boinc wont crunch (Message 1514304)
Posted 10 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
No comprendo

What exactly do you want to accomplish?

(Don't just say 'to run BOINC' as that everyone can do)
1230) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Work still running after deadline date (Message 1514303)
Posted 10 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The nearest deadline shown is 21 May 2014
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=1787453&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1&appid=
1231) Message boards : Number crunching : Catalyst 14.4 released any issues? (Message 1513521)
Posted 8 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Catalyst 14.4 Displays won't wake
About 1,340,000 results (0.58 seconds)...

Crap...

This is misleading ;)

Like this one:
cucumber leads to death
https://www.google.com/#q=cucumber+leads+to+death

About 17,400,000 results (0.31 seconds)

Not good ...
Don't even think about eating cucumbers ever ;)
Lethal outcome 100%
(all people in the representative sample that consumed cucumbers in the period 1822-1855 are all dead)


"cucumber leads to death" = 1 result (0.17 seconds)
https://www.google.com/#q=%22cucumber+leads+to+death%22

No results found for "Catalyst 14.4 Displays won't wake":
https://www.google.com/#q=%22Catalyst+14.4+Displays+won't+wake%22


This gives better filtered results (About 1,680 results):
"Catalyst 14.4" monitor not waking up after sleep problem
https://www.google.com/#q=%22Catalyst+14.4%22+monitor+not+waking+up+after+sleep+problem

1232) Questions and Answers : Windows : Boinc wont crunch (Message 1513152)
Posted 7 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It was my understanding that boinc would begin crunching at login but with that option unchecked it just would not start the manager? Am I missing something?

You expect some magic (boinc.exe to start by itself from nowhere) - you removed from \Run boincmgr.exe which runs boinc.exe (if it is not already running)

Now to make the magic real - since you don't want boincmgr.exe to start you have to find another way to automatically start boinc.exe from somewhere (e.g. from Startup in Start Menu)


The answer (how to run only boinc.exe) was already given to you a few months ago:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73875&postid=1467330#1467330

You: "So... boinc manager launches boinc."
Ageless:
At all other times, you can do with a shortcut that starts Boinc.exe and closes the command line window. If BOINC is installed in its normal place, that'll be:

For 32bit BOINC on a 64bit Windows: "C:\Program Files (x86)\BOINC\boinc.exe" --detach_console
For 32bit BOINC on a 32bit Windows and for 64bit BOINC on a 64bit Windows: "C:\Program Files\BOINC\boinc.exe" --detach_console
1233) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Linux with Radeon HD6670 and AMD A6-3670 APU "no usable GPUs found" (Message 1513143)
Posted 7 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You need drivers that support OpenCL
I don't know the Linux world but think that only drivers from ATI AMD have OpenCL
https://www.google.com/#q=Linux+ATI+AMD+OpenCL

After installation of ATI AMD drivers you can test the functionality of OpenCL by LuxMark
"Open source, 100% OpenCL, Cross platform (Linux, MacOS, Windows, etc.)"
http://www.luxrender.net/wiki/LuxMark

1234) Questions and Answers : Windows : Boinc doesn't recognize Seti@home (Message 1512357)
Posted 5 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Event log http://www.metalsmithpro.com/Pics/screenshot7.jpg

1) Make the Message column wide to the right so you can see the full lines/messages
2) Don't give screenshots of Event Log, better copy the text. How? Read again Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E) ('Copy Selected')

To switch OFF the Proxy:
BOINC Manager Menu

Tools -> Options -> HTTP Proxy

1235) Questions and Answers : Windows : Boinc doesn't recognize Seti@home (Message 1512312)
Posted 4 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Link brings up a FAQ page. In my Boinc program files, I see no data directory.

Yes - and did you read where is BOINC Data directory on that FAQ page?
(because it's not in "Boinc program files" for any BOINC version >5 (BOINC 5.x have mixed program/data files, BOINC 6.x++ have separate program and data directory) - but all that is in the FAQ)

Or see at the top lines of your Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E)


screenshot6.jpg looks good (I wanted to check if something is generally blocking such URL)
1236) Questions and Answers : Windows : Boinc doesn't recognize Seti@home (Message 1512284)
Posted 4 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

* On the HOME page here press Ctrl+U (to view-source:setiathome.berkeley.edu)
Ctrl+F for scheduler

You will find the line:
<scheduler>http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi</scheduler>

Will this URL open in your browser?:
http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi


You may try the same with other projects:
http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/

<scheduler>http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/EinsteinAtHome_cgi/cgi</scheduler>
http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/EinsteinAtHome_cgi/cgi


* In BOINC Data directory do you see files with names:
master_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml
create_account.xml
lookup_account.xml
sched_request_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml
sched_reply_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml

! Do NOT post the contents - some of them contain:
<authenticator>111111111111112222222222222333333333333AAAAA</authenticator>

REMOVE that line (or edit it) if you intent to post the contents


P.S.
If you want to check are you protected with Software (Windows) Firewall OFF (to see how good is your Router) you can use this site:

GRC | ShieldsUP! — Internet Vulnerability Profiling:
https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

Click [Proceed] button, then:
- use UPnP (orange button) to check for a bug in the Router (is UPnP exposed to the EXTERNAL public Internet)

- use 'All Service Ports' to check for 'holes' in the first 1056 TCP ports

1237) Questions and Answers : Getting started : HTC Power To Give Issue (Message 1512159)
Posted 4 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
They fail with 'SIGSEGV: segmentation violation' (access to wrong (not permitted) memory address)
This may be Hardware issue (bad RAM, overheat, voltage fluctuating, ...) or Software (bug in the app, conflict with something else running on the phone, ...)


Try NativeBOINC (it have its own optimized apps):
http://nativeboinc.org/site/uncat/start
1238) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation Error (Message 1511602)
Posted 3 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Look at the Antivirus logs, is it blocking something BOINC related?
1239) Message boards : Number crunching : Dual graphics card issues (Message 1511598)
Posted 3 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Extending the displays indeed got me back in business.

I wonder if "Extending the displays" makes the mouse pointer go off-screen in the 'nowhere'?
And if sometimes you don't know where is some window because it is on the non-existent second monitor?

This will be annoying
1240) Message boards : Number crunching : 1780+ INVALIDS (Message 1511588)
Posted 3 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
No, it's not "the driver" but it's probably "the police" (his Antivirus) or "the engine" (Hardware/Software instability, bad DLL, ...)

All invalids have empty Stderr, 'Compute' for a few seconds and the same happens for CPU tasks
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5857368&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=

Strange he don't know about the problem as in his account there is URL to a site for "IT Support and Consultancy ... having years of experience in the IT industry"
;)
1241) Questions and Answers : Windows : Boinc doesn't recognize Seti@home (Message 1511559)
Posted 3 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm so frustrated ...

Here are 5 simple steps:

Allowing a blocked program:
https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home/current/solutions/v6958602_N360_N360OEM_6_en_us

Did you already know this?
Especially "To allow a blocked program from the Security History window" seems to be a way to go

There have to be something in that History (log) window about BOINC activity
"4. Select the firewall activity that is associated with the blocked program"


(I never used Norton 360, I found this info by Google for 4-5 minutes. I'm over 50, started with FORTRAN and punch cards ;) )
1242) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Finished tasks not transferring (Message 1511554)
Posted 2 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
https://www.google.com/#q=project+file+upload+handler+is+missing
1243) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Waiting for shared memory? (Message 1511551)
Posted 2 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The method, accompanied by a more detailed description of the issue, is outlined in Configuring Shared Memory on Mac OS X from Spy Hill Research (hosts of the BOINC Pirates@home project)
(original link doesn't work anymore).

The link can still be seen on 'Wayback Machine':

Configuring Shared Memory on Mac OS X
http://web.archive.org/web/20130516144758/http://www.spy-hill.net/help/apple/SharedMemory.html
1244) Message boards : Number crunching : Win 8.1 Issues and Questions. (Message 1510577)
Posted 1 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
5. Spent a lot of time today getting rid of malware. I think it loaded when I installed 7zip

7-Zip itself is a clean program/installer, you just used bad installer.

I have my clean copy since 22.12.2012 and you can get it here (Uploaded by me):
http://www57.zippyshare.com/v/53503751/file.html

Antivirus scan of my copy of 7z920.exe :
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/1e2f2a8fb52d3972b9b65b8ad1bebb66965c47a2994f89b3d652c31e6f6e4c3c/analysis/


Edit:
If you use this link you will get absolutely the same file (I checked just now)
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/sevenzip/7z920.exe


P.S.
Warning: Never get anything from CNET (download.cnet.com) !

1245) Message boards : Number crunching : Zero day IE vulnerability. Effects all OS's. XP users not to get a fix. - Update published (Message 1510570)
Posted 1 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Sometimes apps have it hard coded to run iexplorer.exe

Yes, I'm talking about this behaviour.
I think it happened to me at the end of install of some programs (when they want to say 'thank you' but in fact to try to make me see their ads or promote other of their products).
1246) Message boards : Number crunching : No graphics for smaller wus? (Message 1510566)
Posted 1 May 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Maybe I've only been receiving the non-graphics (GPU) tasks.

Why "Maybe"?
It is clearly visible:
1) in BOINC Manager - Tasks tab - Application column: if the name have something enclosed in ( ) it is GPU task (so have no graphics part)
2) in Windows Task Manager: look for a process using 'much' CPU time - it is a CPU task (and have graphics part) (but some GPU apps/tasks also use 'much' CPU time)

Name of SETI@home CPU process and its graphics part process:
setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe
setigraphics_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe

I don't know the name of the .exe which runs SETI@home v7 v7.03 (opencl_intel_gpu_sah) tasks
but you can check in SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)

Where is BOINC Data directory
1247) Message boards : Number crunching : Ghost wu's (Message 1510153)
Posted 30 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Check how many WU files do you have in SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)
1248) Message boards : Number crunching : Dual graphics card issues (Message 1510149)
Posted 30 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Reboot?
Repeat 'Extending or duplicating the desktop'?
(I don't know if 'duplicating' will have the same effect as 'Extending' for our purpose)

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/howtoguide/N0000137/8690/107296/NP550P7C-T01US
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&docname=c03512749
http://www.dell.com/support/troubleshooting/us/en/19/KCS/KcsArticles/ArticleView?docid=582402


I don't know if the same can be done using 'Catalyst Control Center' or 'NVIDIA Control Panel'

As last resort try to connect a monitor (or the second port of your existing monitor) to the ATI card
1249) Message boards : Number crunching : Marked as Invalid, anyone know why? (Message 1510139)
Posted 30 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

'Completed, marked as invalid' ("instant invalid", 3rd task is still 'In progress')
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3483427597
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1473624680

Was run on my old CPU K6-2+ @ 524 MHz
Run time 768,454.81
CPU time 754,116.50


Stderr output

<core_client_version>6.6.38</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
setiathome_v7 7.00 DevC++/MinGW/g++ 4.5.2
libboinc: 7.1.0

Work Unit Info:
...............
WU true angle range is : 0.010866
Optimal function choices:
--------------------------------------------------------
name timing error
--------------------------------------------------------
v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)
v_GetPowerSpectrum 0.009774 0.00000
fpu_opt_ChirpData 0.346757 0.00000
v_Transpose4 0.152320 0.00000
FPU opt folding 0.124074 0.00000
Restarted at 36.21 percent.
Restarted at 37.75 percent.
Restarted at 38.32 percent.
Restarted at 38.91 percent.
Restarted at 48.98 percent.
Restarted at 50.31 percent.
Restarted at 50.44 percent.
Restarted at 50.44 percent.
Restarted at 50.44 percent.
Restarted at 50.65 percent.
Restarted at 50.65 percent.

Flopcounter: 44709614712063.109000

Spike count: 8
Autocorr count: 0
Pulse count: 6
Triplet count: 1
Gaussian count: 0
03:05:55 (-918629): called boinc_finish

</stderr_txt>
]]>

_______________________


Wingmate task is 'Completed, validation inconclusive':

.....
Build features: SETI7 Non-graphics FFTW USE_AVX x86
CPUID: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz

Cache: L1=64K L2=256K

CPU features: FPU TSC PAE CMPXCHG8B APIC SYSENTER MTRR CMOV/CCMP MMX FXSAVE/FXRSTOR SSE SSE2 HT SSE3 SSSE3 SSE4.1 SSE4.2 AVX
ar=0.010866 NumCfft=146007 NumGauss= 0 NumPulse= 400488430592 NumTriplet= 28745021997056
In v_BaseLineSmooth: NumDataPoints=1048576, BoxCarLength=8192, NumPointsInChunk=32768
Restarted at 12.76 percent.
Pulse: peak=3.393877, time=53.74, period=8.271, d_freq=1419346340.17, score=1.042, chirp=24.809, fft_len=1024
Spike: peak=24.26264, time=48.65, d_freq=1419347356.97, chirp=-35.078, fft_len=32k
Spike: peak=24.44669, time=48.65, d_freq=1419347356.95, chirp=-35.151, fft_len=32k
Spike: peak=24.07589, time=22.65, d_freq=1419349590.17, chirp=42.827, fft_len=16k
Spike: peak=24.76583, time=22.65, d_freq=1419349590.16, chirp=43.063, fft_len=16k
Spike: peak=25.78738, time=21.81, d_freq=1419349553.88, chirp=43.152, fft_len=32k
Spike: peak=26.55867, time=21.81, d_freq=1419349553.91, chirp=43.167, fft_len=32k
Spike: peak=25.93216, time=21.81, d_freq=1419349553.93, chirp=43.181, fft_len=32k
Spike: peak=24.23698, time=22.65, d_freq=1419349590.15, chirp=43.3, fft_len=16k
Pulse: peak=1.953763, time=53.79, period=3.382, d_freq=1419348684.76, score=1.019, chirp=54.72, fft_len=2k
Triplet: peak=12.55167, time=57.09, period=47.42, d_freq=1419347482.32, chirp=57.887, fft_len=512
Pulse: peak=0.8888392, time=53.69, period=0.9809, d_freq=1419344315.59, score=1.042, chirp=73.627, fft_len=64
Pulse: peak=1.650835, time=53.69, period=2.316, d_freq=1419341130.93, score=1.079, chirp=85.364, fft_len=32
Pulse: peak=6.232743, time=53.9, period=19.08, d_freq=1419348123.24, score=1.012, chirp=-99.218, fft_len=4k

Best spike: peak=26.55867, time=21.81, d_freq=1419349553.91, chirp=43.167, fft_len=32k
Best autocorr: peak=16.90317, time=73.82, delay=3.479, d_freq=1419345484.25, chirp=-2.965, fft_len=128k
Best gaussian: peak=0, mean=0, ChiSq=0, time=-2.121e+011, d_freq=0,
score=-12, null_hyp=0, chirp=0, fft_len=0
Best pulse: peak=1.650835, time=53.69, period=2.316, d_freq=1419341130.93, score=1.079, chirp=85.364, fft_len=32
Best triplet: peak=12.55167, time=57.09, period=47.42, d_freq=1419347482.32, chirp=57.887, fft_len=512


Flopcounter: 44703276014020.000000

Spike count: 8
Autocorr count: 0
Pulse count: 6
Triplet count: 1
Gaussian count: 0
Wallclock time elapsed since last restart: 10709.6 seconds

16:22:45 (5868): called boinc_finish

</stderr_txt>
]]>

1250) Message boards : Number crunching : No graphics for smaller wus? (Message 1509966)
Posted 29 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Now that i think about it, you both are correct. I lost the option to see the graphics right around the time when i changed the settings to "use gpu while computer is in use"

No, this does not matter.
You have to select a Running CPU task to use [Show graphics] button

Just now you probably don't have CPU tasks or have only one:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7260047&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1&appid=

Look for 'SETI@home v7 v7.00'


You can also read:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Simple_View#Tasks_Window
"Graphics: If the science application supports graphics, this option will be enabled. Graphics will open in a separate window. Not all projects have graphics."

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Advanced_view#The_Tasks_tab
"Show graphics: Open a window showing application graphics. (Only available if that application has graphics, and when the Status of the selected task is 'running'.)"

1251) Message boards : Number crunching : Zero day IE vulnerability. Effects all OS's. XP users not to get a fix. - Update published (Message 1509962)
Posted 29 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Look at that, AntiVirus for Ubuntu...
... First one I've seen. Although I really haven't been looking.

Of course there are other:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/free-linux-antivirus-programs/

http://www.eset.com/me/home/products/antivirus-linux/?productdd=1
http://www.kaspersky.com/product-updates/linux-file-server-antivirus
1252) Message boards : Number crunching : Zero day IE vulnerability. Effects all OS's. XP users not to get a fix. - Update published (Message 1509951)
Posted 29 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... and the one and only time I used IE in XP: to pull up getfirefox.com

The problem is some stupid programs start IE despite you have other browser set as default (but this is rare, happens 1-2 times a year so I don't remember which programs do that)
1253) Message boards : Number crunching : Zero day IE vulnerability. Effects all OS's. XP users not to get a fix. - Update published (Message 1509701)
Posted 29 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

At the moment I have Flash Player 13.0.0.182 (installed on 10.04.2014, both active_x and plugin)
The current version now is 13.0.0.206
http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/


http://helpx.adobe.com/en/flash-player/release-note/fp_13_air_13_release_notes.html
"April 28th, 2014
In today's release we are updating Flash Player with an important security update. We recommend users upgrade to this release."

I don't know if this info means the fix for this vulnerability is already done in version 13.0.0.206


I like to get offline Flash Player clean installers by the links bellow
(only the major version number need editing when they release e.g. version 14):

Flash Player for Internet Explorer
http://download.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/licensing/win/install_flash_player_12_active_x.exe
http://download.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/licensing/win/install_flash_player_13_active_x.exe

Flash Player for other browsers
http://download.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/licensing/win/install_flash_player_12_plugin.exe
http://download.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/licensing/win/install_flash_player_13_plugin.exe


The flash_player_13 files have 'Signing time:' 19.04.2014 (active_x) and 21.04.2014 (plugin) which means the .exe was ready on this date
(if it was ready 7-9 days ago why they needed a full week for testing before release?)


Edit:
They talk about CVE-2014-0515 which seems ;) not the same as CVE-2014-1776 from your link to arstechnica.com page
http://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsb14-13.html

But this page seem to indicate the same problem from arstechnica (mentions Pixel Bender, Kaspersky, and written by Vyacheslav Zakorzhevsky) and calls it CVE-2014-0515
https://www.securelist.com/en/blog/8212/New_Flash_Player_0_day_CVE_2014_0515_used_in_watering_hole_attacks

1254) Message boards : Number crunching : No graphics for smaller wus? (Message 1509509)
Posted 28 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You probably talk about 'SETI@home v7 v7.03 (opencl_intel_gpu_sah)' tasks

The SETI@home applications that run tasks on GPUs have no graphics part
Only applications that run tasks on CPU have graphics part (which is another .exe and you can see it start in Windows Task Manager or Process Explorer after clicking [Show graphics] button)

Those tasks are not "smaller wus"
Obviously your GPU (which is integrated in the CPU chip) is faster than one CPU core so you see the tasks which run on the GPU complete in shorter time.
1255) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Krisiya Todorova   [Signal found but was hidden - just Listen (1st April)     9 | !9 -> ?] (Message 1509448)
Posted 28 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I checked all the winners of this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junior_Eurovision_Song_Contest

... and (for me) only one is comparable:

Anastasiya Petryk - Настя Петрик:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FZ28XQSRKM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiZFaW4y2JE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZl1R-u_BU4

http://www.youtube.com/user/nastyapetrik

1256) Questions and Answers : Windows : stuck running cpu benchmark (Message 1509415)
Posted 28 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thanks again not sure how this could possibly help but..
machines 7225813 and 7218847 are 2 of 6 the for sure get stuck

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7225813
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7218847

1) From your first post:
"the only similarity is cuda is active on each, my none cuda machines dont do it"
I can't see how CUDA can be involved as the benchmark is done by BOINC (boinc.exe) itself only on CPU (not using any app code from any project)

2) Both 7225813 and 7218847 have the same CPU
Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5700 @ 3.00GHz [Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 10]

3) Both at some point back in time had successfully run the CPU benchmark:
Measured floating point speed 3029.13 million ops/sec
Measured integer speed 9061.72 million ops/sec

4) Your last Download on hostid=7225813 is from '3 Apr 2014, 20:06:52 UTC' so probably that is the time the problem started (if you can remember what changes to the computer may had happened around that date):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7225813&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1&appid=

Last Downloaded CPU task on Computer ID 7218847 is 'Sent 8 Apr 2014, 15:21:15 UTC'
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3480576626

Did you install some new Antivirus/security Software?
(something that can block programs using too much CPU)


I unstick them ...

How?


... and 1 reboot and they are stuck again.

You still didn't explain how do you know BOINC (boinc.exe) is "stuck running cpu benchmark"
(Do you look in Windows Task Manager and see boinc.exe have high CPU load for a long time? Or you see this in BOINC Manager (Event Log, Messages)? Or ...?)


I can't be the only one having this issue!

I don't recall anyone reporting that BOINC is "stuck running cpu benchmark"

And since Ageless (Joined: 9 Jun 99 - Posts: 12138) which writes a big part of the BOINC docs did not respond to this with some link I don't think such report exists.

1257) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : New AMD R7, no GPU tasks (Message 1509367)
Posted 28 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The only work-around is to either wait for the project to release an updated application that doesn't require CAL

I don't think that the current stock ATI AMD SETI@home applications require CAL
(they are the same 'Lunatics apps' just older versions)

The problem is only some check done by the server on the version of CAL
The server thinks that if the version of CAL is too low or no CAL support reported that the driver is too old to support OpenCL

Now that the new GPUs/drivers do not have CAL this server check have to be reworked

The same problem was noted here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74585&postid=1504605#1504605

1258) Questions and Answers : Getting started : HELP: Merging Two Accounts: How? (Message 1509346)
Posted 28 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It seems for SETI@home this happened 2 weeks ago (Certificate - Valid from 14.04.2014 to 14.04.2017)

But many links still are not fixed:

In 'Your account':
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/home.php
... most links are OK except 'Message boards 1234 posts' and links under 'Friends' (usernames)

In the forum (here) if you click the usernames at the left they are http

On the 'HOME' page any link you click (e.g. 'Message boards') will turn you back to http:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/
(and the column with GoodSearch box is ugly)

If you look at accounts:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=8647488
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=30880
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=41965

... only some links like 'Send private message' are https


And is there a way to tell BOINC to use https?
1259) Message boards : Number crunching : Running Stock Experiment (Message 1505394)
Posted 17 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I am confused.

OK, I can confess I was very confused when I first started with BOINC in 2007
The idea that some program can have Settings which you need to change on web page was confusing for me.
And till now I don't know any other program that need web settings (browsers may have features like 'web sync for bookmarks' but they are not mandatory)

Now BOINC receives what is set in SETI@home preferences in sched_reply_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml and saves it in account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml

It is/was possible to make/design BOINC so it get some XML file from projects which describe what may be changed and choices (e.g. list of applications) and then BOINC Manager have window in its interface (based on that XML) to edit this particular project preferences (then sent them back to project server).
But that will make another confusion - this way, using BOINC installed on a single computer, you change global Settings (for this project) for all your computers.

Obviously it was deemed better/easier to make people go to web page and change settings using a browser.


Edit- BilBG I followed the links you gave and now computer 5065145 show up as work. I hope that my changes took effect also.

You can check this in account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml

You will see something like this:
.....
<project_preferences>
<resource_share>100</resource_share>
<no_cpu>0</no_cpu>
<no_ati>0</no_ati>
<no_cuda>0</no_cuda>
<project_specific>
<format_preset>Custom</format_preset>
.....
<app_id>2</app_id>
<app_id>11</app_id>
<app_id>12</app_id>
<allow_non_preferred_apps>1</allow_non_preferred_apps>
</project_specific>
<venue name="work">
<resource_share>500</resource_share>
<no_cpu>0</no_cpu>
<no_ati>1</no_ati>
<no_cuda>1</no_cuda>
<project_specific>
<format_preset>Custom</format_preset>
.....
<app_id>12</app_id>
<allow_non_preferred_apps>1</allow_non_preferred_apps>
</project_specific>
</venue>
</project_preferences>

1260) Message boards : Number crunching : Radeon R7 250X or 260X good enough for crunching? (Message 1505378)
Posted 17 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

OK, you show that it's NOT over your current knowledge after all ;)

(I don't give direct pointers to how to install optimized apps unless user asks, improper setting of those may do more bad than good and if the user is inexperienced it's hard to explain how to fix things back to normal - some can't find where is app_info.xml)

Your previous posts like:
"My preferences are set to use the Intel GPU. Am I not using it?" (which is easily seen by any tool showing GPU load; also in BOINC Manager; also processes in Windows Task Manager)
"Excuse my ignorance, but where is it obvious in the details?"
"I'm not seeing what you are saying. ... I see no difference in the details"

... made me believe you don't qualify ;)


Available stock Applications - the info in ( ) show if it's for GPU and which type, e.g. 7.03 (opencl_intel_gpu_sah)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php


The problem with those new ATI AMD GPUs is that in the new drivers AMD (seem to) dropped support for CAL (old ATI Computing language, now superseded by OpenCL)
The SETI@home server (as is now) checks for reported CAL version to determine if driver is OK for SETI@home
This obviously have to be fixed.

1261) Message boards : Number crunching : Type Easy, Type Faster (Popchrom add-on + my Abbreviations) (Message 1505308)
Posted 17 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

New version of abbreviations at the same place.
(all old versions also available)

1262) Questions and Answers : Windows : stuck running cpu benchmark (Message 1505255)
Posted 17 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Now the computers are visible but they are so many.

Give links to (or ID) of the problem computers (NOT names - we can't see the names)

Links look like this (one of my computers):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4832843

One of your computers:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4188202
1263) Message boards : Number crunching : Running Stock Experiment (Message 1504674)
Posted 16 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I think the better way would be a check box with the statement- For this computer use local prefs only.

And this is that way already - the simple act of clicking [OK] on Local preferences window make the "computer use local prefs only" (for Settings that exist both locally and on web)

You confuse:
1) Local preferences are 'the same set' as Computing preferences on web
2) There are no local SETI@home preferences
3) What you set in 'Activity' Menu is not saved as Preference (not saved in global_prefs.xml and global_prefs_override.xml)
It is saved in client_state.xml (at the end of file)


If from 'Activity' Menu you set to not use GPU:
a) it affects all projects (on this computer)
b) it stops GPU Computing, not Download of tasks for GPU (as you may resume GPU Computing later)

BOINC Manager Menu


I understand what you say, But what if I had say 5 computers in each of those home ,school ,work settings. But I only had one I wanted to test?

No one in the known universe ;) need more than 4 sets of Preferences
(they may implement more e.g. 'junkyard', 'jail' but will anyone use them? ;) )

1264) Questions and Answers : Windows : stuck running cpu benchmark (Message 1504669)
Posted 16 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
nobody has a clue on this??

1) Your first post is not clear enough
2) Most people (including me) hesitate/refuse to answer if 'Computers hidden'
1265) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Error while downloading (Message 1504665)
Posted 16 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You mean you set locally 'Skip image file verification'?:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Local_preferences#Network_usage

Check in global_prefs_override.xml for this line:
<dont_verify_images>1</dont_verify_images>

I don't know "why would it not work with image verification set to off" if the above is set at 1


You can (temporarily) avoid you ISP for re-compressing images by using VPN
(you ISP will not be able to see or change anything of your communication)
You only need one Download to happen for a task type.

Get SecurityKISS (free for 300 MB/day, >10 servers to choose, work OK with SETI@home servers):
http://www.securitykiss.com/resources/download/windows/

(I use it from time to time, it do not install always-running services like e.g. Hotspot Shield)
1266) Questions and Answers : Getting started : HELP! Stats page not Showing My Team Membership (Message 1504661)
Posted 16 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If I join your team you'll not see my "Total credit 5,392,799" added to your team totals.
If I then stay for one month in your team the credits I earn during that time will be added both to my account and to your team totals.
If I then leave your team (no matter if I join another team) those one month of credits will stay with your team.

(in all cases my credits are not affected)

This is to avoid somebody with 100 000 000 credits say:
"Hey, I don't like what you post, I will leave your team and take (subtract) my 100 000 000 credits from your team totals if you don't delete/hide this post"
... or:
"Hey, I have 100 000 000 credits, if 100 members of your team go and like my Facebook page I'll join your team and add 100 000 000 credits to your team totals"
1267) Questions and Answers : Getting started : HELP: Merging Two Accounts: How? (Message 1504649)
Posted 16 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Because somebody can steal accounts.

E.g. you are at "friend's" computer and decide to log-in your account with 'Remember me' checked.
Later your "friend" re-opens the page http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/home.php
Now he can (if was possible) merge this (yours) of "his" accounts to another (his real account)

Also the communication to SETI@home and all projects go over Internet in plain text form (HTTP not HTTPS) so any (e.g. Proxy) server in the path can see your <authenticator>XXXXXXXXXYYYYYYYYYZZZZZZZZZZ</authenticator> which is sent with every sched_request_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml
Who have the <authenticator> have full control of your account.
1268) Message boards : Number crunching : Running Stock Experiment (Message 1504633)
Posted 16 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So I will set NNT for this machine check the box for GPU use in web prefs and then use the local preffs for this machine and stop GPU use. Is that the correct way?

No

The correct way is to:

1) 'Add separate preferences for work' (may be any of 'home', 'school', 'work')
SETI@home preferences

Edit those 'Separate preferences for ...' to make them how you wish


2) go to 'Computer 5065145'
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5065145

... and at the bottom change 'Location' and [Update]


3) make [Update] from BOINC Manager so it knows about the change
1269) Message boards : Number crunching : Radeon R7 250X or 260X good enough for crunching? (Message 1504605)
Posted 16 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You mean those 'AMD Bonaire' GPUs in 'Computers belonging to Computer Addiction'?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=4776

Since they are in other computers they have absolutely no effect on using your 'Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600'


And in fact those 2 'AMD Bonaire' GPUs (in computers 7254436 and 7105345) are NOT used for SETI@home probably because the driver version is very new and don't
have/report CAL version
(This have to be fixed by SETI@home lab/admins, you can overcome this by installing optimized apps (using app_info.xml) but probably it's over your current knowledge)
1270) Message boards : Number crunching : Strategies for managing mixed GPU WU balance. (Message 1504591)
Posted 16 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Or his antivirus is interfering:
http://boincwiki.mundayweb.com/index.php?title=Add_the_BOINC_Data_directory_to_the_exclusions_of_my_antivirus_program
1271) Questions and Answers : Windows : Problems with getting Credits on Win8 (Message 1504223)
Posted 15 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You probably have 2 accounts

In BOINC Manager on Projects tab what name is shown in Account column for SETI@home project?
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Advanced_view#The_Projects_tab
1272) Questions and Answers : Windows : Problem with New Win 7 Install (Message 1504210)
Posted 15 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I did try that site too..It also tried to load a malware.

Nonsense
7-zip.org always was and is a very clean site
It even don't have ads on the page

My add-ons show:
- AdBlock:
      Blocked ads: 0 on this page
- Dr.Web Anti-Virus Link Checker:
      Web analytics: blocked 0
      Social network plug-ins: blocked 0
- avast! Online Security:
      0 companies tried to track you


7-zip.org is the original site of the original developer of 7-zip - see bottom of the page:
Copyright (C) 2013 Igor Pavlov

And of course sourceforge.net is the home of many of the free open source programs.

More 'green' info:
https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/7-zip.org
https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/sourceforge.net


Just now I get the file 7z920.exe by clicking the link on top-left of 7-zip.org page which redirected me to sourceforge.net and auto download after 5 s
I did this 2 times in case some bad mirror is chosen
The files that I get now are identical (by content, by compare) to my copy of 7z920.exe which I have (and installed) about 2 years ago


You already had malware in the computer so probably at that time any visited site was 'tweaked' by the malware
Malware may inject any content in any web page locally (page from the remote server comes to you clean but is modified by the malware before it is presented to you)

1273) Message boards : News : SETI@home now supports Intel GPUs (Message 1504200)
Posted 15 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Calibrating for the worst increases the credit grants for all versions.

Then problem is that projects often remove the slowest plain version when they have working SSE2/3 (especially for 64-bit applications as all such CPUs have SSE3)
So if they are on CreditNew they need to keep the slowest app for 'calibration'? ;)
Else the calibration will be done against SSE2 app as 'worst'?

Can't your 'calibration' app be the current app (+ the same libfftw) but compiled to use only FPU
Or simply use the cmdline Option:
-default_functions       use the safe unoptimized default functions

This will be the most 'fare' calibration app (same app/library but in old fashioned way)
And of course distributed with very small probability (e.g. a host can have a chance to get a slow calibration app/task once a year)

(if that's the way CreditNew works in the first place)
1274) Message boards : Number crunching : HTPC, which hardware? (Message 1503705)
Posted 13 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have a LG E2240T screen which have a D-SUB and a DVI-D port.
In the manual I can't read if the DVI port support/can handle HDCP.

It's not about the port, it's about the devices connected at two ends which communicate:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-bandwidth_Digital_Content_Protection#Versions_Highlights

Your LG E2240T Monitor seem to not have HDCP (is not HDCP-compliant)
http://www.lg.com/za/monitors/lg-E2240T-led-lcd
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=341635

Something to read:
http://www.hdfury.com/hdmihdcp/
http://www.ebay.com/gds/How-To-Get-1080p-Blu-Ray-Over-Analog-/10000000051356965/g.html

Something to read carefully:
http://mercianmedia.wordpress.com/2013/08/13/how-to-send-hdcp-encrypted-signals-to-non-hdcp-devices/

And you may need something similar (in addition to the above):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DVI-Male-to-HDMI-Female-M-F-Adapter-Gold-Plated-Converter-For-HDTV-/160842546200?pt=US_Video_Cables_Adapters&hash=item2572f67c18


(all the above is from reading on the Internet, no personal experience - I don't have such system)



Today it's OK to play games on PC?

??? :D
Why not?
It was always OK (1979 (8-bit) ... 1982 (16-bit) ... present)


For a lot years I played on my AMD Athlon 600 with Win98SE.
After a few installed games I needed to format the HDD and install the OS again new, because with all the games on the PC he was not longer useful for web surfing or office work. He was "damaged".

?? Nothing familiar to me
Win98SE is maybe 10 years from install and never re-installed, maybe >50 games.
And the same (many games) for XP - I don't re-install OS, on the contrary - I clone the full disk when migrating to new HDD to preserve everything.

Yes, some games have bugs which may cause problems but only AFTER you play them
E.g. AFTER I play Carmageddon on Win98SE/GeForce 256 (last time was 1-2 years ago) and exit game I need to immediately restart Windows else system hangs if I start any program.
(but this is rare example)

Can you say which games caused this "not longer useful"?
Game just stay on HDD and not in memory so can't make PC "not longer useful for web surfing or office work"
You may at that time used/installed some 'Free Game Offers' ;) which MAY install things like toolbars/adware which stay in memory and slow down the computer.


To check for this (if some program installs auto-starting objects which remain in memory)
and to enable/disable them get Autoruns
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902.aspx

Before any program install start Autoruns and Save the list (Ctrl+S)
After the program install start Autoruns again and do Compare (Alt+F C)

The new/changed lines will be marked in green (and you can uncheck to disable if needed)
Save again the list to new name.

(only auto-starting objects are listed by Autoruns, everything else is not important. Installed program/game is just data - it sits on disk and do not do anything until you start it manually)
1275) Message boards : Number crunching : WinXP EOS -> it's really unsafe after April 08, 2014? (Message 1502234)
Posted 10 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The CNET Installer is detected only by 5 antivirus programs:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/3706b20574f1aff6f103b9ba085f54c95e78ae70a26f90baa59aa212b08480b4/analysis/1397147162/

... and it is the same file regardless of what do you think you Download!

The contents (bytes) of the file are identical - look in tab 'Additional details' and then 'File names'
(since all have the same SHA256 they are the same file)

Examples:
cbsidlm-cbsi188-BSPlayer-ORG-10722361.exe
cbsidlm-cbsi188-ATI_Catalyst_Software_Suite_Windows_XP_32bit-ORG-10347315.exe
cbsidlm-cbsi188-Autodesk_3ds_Max-ORG-75451614.exe
cbsidlm-cbsi188-Need_for_Speed_Underground_2-ORG-10331372.exe
cbsidlm-cbsi188-Nero_2014_Platinum-ORG-10028984.exe
cbsidlm-cbsi188-HP_DeskJet_1120C_Printer-ORG-121650.exe
cbsidlm-cbsi188-Free_AVI_Video_Converter-ORG-75685273.exe


Obviously the only difference is the filename

So this installer do not contain 'your' program (nor the adware it installs? - it seems too small)
The only way it knows what and where to get is its filename
Probably it makes some URL from its filename, contacts it and Downloads the adware and 'your' program

This can be proven (if you are 'brave' enough) by renaming the file to some garbage (AAAAAAABBBBBB.exe) and then running it - it will not know what program to get from web (but I'm not sure about the adware which may be hard-coded - the same adware co-installed for many programs)
(7-Zip shows some files in this CNET Installer but attempt to extract them for most gives 'File is broken')


Get "Malwarebytes from download.com" and "became infected with a browser hijacker"
"CNET has been sued by numerous software manufacturers for bundling malware with installments of their software"
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/general-chit-chat/1296393-dont-use-download-com.html



P.S.
This (above) may be off-topic but it shows that the main reason for vulnerability is not Windows XP but:
- the user actions
- most Antiviruses not blocking this 'thing' because it comes from big site (and instead focus on producing false-positives for harmless for the user programs)
- the 'big site' don't care about people but only for money
- the law enforcement (courts) don't have nerve to close this site or require it to become clean (this adware wrapping/pushing behaviour continues for years)

"This practice of hiding software and installing it as if it is part of Nmap actually violates the software’s copyright and trademark"
http://www.geek.com/news/nmap-warns-download-com-bundles-malware-with-its-software-1446963/

1276) Message boards : Number crunching : WinXP EOS -> it's really unsafe after April 08, 2014? (Message 1502160)
Posted 10 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The installer was either from AVG itself or cnet

I don't get anything from cnet

http://forums.cnet.com/7723-12543_102-606256/cnet-endores-s-conduit-virus-toolbar/
http://www.billhartzer.com/pages/cnet-downloads-now-come-with-a-bonus-unwanted-programs-and-spyware/


I just look which is the author/maker (if I don't know this in advance):
http://download.cnet.com/The-Matrix-Screen-Saver/3000-2257_4-10067722.html

(in this case it is 'Meticulous Software')
... and then get the clean original file from the authors:
http://www.meticulous-software.co.uk/downloads.htm


I still wonder why WOT is green for cnet (I voted Red in the WOT add-on) but see the users comments which are full with "Malware or viruses", "Misleading claims or unethical":
https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/download.cnet.com



ESET NOD32 Antivirus catches this as "CNETInstaller.B PUA"
(I tested by clicking the green [Download Now] button in the above "The-Matrix-Screen-Saver" CNET page
in SRWare Iron run in Sandboxie)





1277) Message boards : Number crunching : Dual graphics card issues (Message 1500109)
Posted 5 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You are suggesting perhaps that I switch them?

No, he means this:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74392&postid=1493542#1493542
1278) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Astropulse & other long computing tasks (Message 1500099)
Posted 5 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
35% CPU Time (I don't want to have the fan running at full speed all the time)

Return to 100% CPU Time and use TThrottle instead.
TThrottle is based on temperature (you set the max).
TThrottle uses much better method to reduce the CPU Time used (if/when the max temperature is reached) than BOINC

You have 'Computers hidden' - better unhide them when/if asking for help.

1279) Message boards : Number crunching : I'm falling, I bought a parachute. From 100% AP, to 100% MB. (Message 1499609)
Posted 4 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
RAC will fall even more with stock CPU apps which are slower for both MB and AP
(you will get the same credit per task but you will do less tasks/day)
1280) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Krisiya Todorova   [Signal found but was hidden - just Listen (1st April)     9 | !9 -> ?] (Message 1499607)
Posted 4 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:


This girl emerged from nowhere.

This was not some official pre-scheduled contest like "The Voice of Bulgaria" or "Bulgarian Idol" or "Bulgaria's Got Talent"
It was small in-show contest (~2000 applications/candidates, ~15 small girls (6-11 years old) aired on TV finals).
While there were other girls that sing good it was only Krisiya (Krisia, Крисия) that sounded like not-9-years-old

She is very much loved now in Bulgaria (of course there are exceptions - some can't live without hate)
(now the first 7 girls make 3 concerts in the home towns of the first 3 (was this clear or entirely not? :D) with the last concert expected this Sunday on TV)


Since I never heard (and never imagined) a 9 years old girl with such deep voice nuances, passion and sense to the text and silence
I will be interested to see some other similar examples from around the world (you know the shows in your country) - I mean small children singing not-like-children

(You have to see the 'full length' (~ 4 minutes) of the first video to know what I mean, not only a few seconds.
(those first few seconds are her first seconds on TV ever)
Some say she have an accent but what do they expect?
I wonder how Texas or Australian speech sounds to an UK citizen? ;)
)

1281) Message boards : Number crunching : Intel GPU WUs available? (Message 1499569)
Posted 4 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I had it set to .25 days and max set to 3 days

Make the first value bigger and the second smaller, e.g. try for start: 1 + 0.01 days
1282) Message boards : Number crunching : Dual graphics card issues (Message 1499561)
Posted 4 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:


1002-683D-04291043 - according to this Device/Subsystem Id you have ASUS HD7770-DC-1GD5-V2
https://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/HD7770DC1GD5V2/
http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/121364/asus-hd7770-1024-120305.html


This part from SIV:

[gpu-api] [hardware]


Function Name

[Y]ADL_Main_Control_Create
[Y]ADL_Main_Control_Destroy
[Y]ADL_Adapter_NumberOfAdapters_Get
[Y]ADL_Adapter_AdapterInfo_Get
[Y]ADL_Adapter_AdapterInfoX2_Get
[Y]ADL_Adapter_ASICFamilyType_Get
[_]ADL_Adapter_ClockInfo_Get
[Y]ADL_Adapter_Crossfire_Caps
[Y]ADL_Adapter_Crossfire_Get
[Y]ADL_Adapter_MemoryInfo_Get
[Y]ADL_Adapter_MemoryInfo2_Get
[Y]ADL_Adapter_VideoBiosInfo_Get
[Y]ADL_Display_DisplayInfo_Get
[Y]ADL_Display_WriteAndReadI2CRev_Get
[Y]ADL_Display_WriteAndReadI2C
[Y]ADL_Display_WriteAndReadI2CLargePayload
[Y]ADL_Overdrive6_Temperature_Get
[Y]ADL_Overdrive5_Temperature_Get
[Y]ADL_Overdrive6_FanSpeed_Get
[Y]ADL_Overdrive5_FanSpeed_Get
[Y]ADL_Overdrive5_FanSpeedInfo_Get
[Y]ADL_Overdrive5_CurrentActivity_Get
[Y]ADL_Overdrive6_Capabilities_Get
[Y]ADL_Overdrive5_ODParameters_Get
[Y]ADL_Overdrive5_ODPerformanceLevels_Get

Found 24 of 25 in ADL C:\Windows\system32\atiadlxx.dll V6.14.10.1127


... show you have atiadlxx.dll with almost all Functions present
I don't know why they do not return values

Do you have monitor attached to the HD 7770
Is it possible you have to unlock something in Catalyst Control Center or the ASUS tool (GPU Tweak)?

Did you install drivers from ATI AMD or from ASUS?


ASUS site say:
Power Consumption - up to 150W - 1 additional 6 pin PCIe power required
https://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/HD7770DC1GD5V2/specifications/


Did you connect the 'additional 6 pin PCIe power' connector from PSU?


1283) Message boards : Number crunching : Dual graphics card issues (Message 1499507)
Posted 4 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
GPU-Z, Msi Afterburner, SIV, and GPUTweak. All of them can barely get any information from that ATI Card. No temperature, no mhz reading, nothing. It recognizes it, but no information.

Do you run all these programs at the same time?
Try to run only one at a time.

Several programs competing to read the sensors may conflict. (I'm not familiar with GPUTweak)
(SIV is 'nice' and do not read sensors if they are locked by another program)

Can you do this:

Run only SIV (and no other monitoring programs) while BOINC is loading the CPU and GPUs
Right-click the [OK] button and 'Save Public'
A file SIV_<computer_name>.txt will be created next to the SIV32X.exe

Go to this site:
http://pastebin.com/

... paste the contents of this .txt file, [Submit] and give the link generated.
1284) Message boards : Number crunching : Dual graphics card issues (Message 1499094)
Posted 3 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
From your knowledge, is the 300mhz a setting that can be tweaked?

Yes it can, e.g. with MSI Afterburner (works on all cards, not only MSI):
http://event.msi.com/vga/afterburner/overview.htm
http://event.msi.com/vga/afterburner/download.htm






But first see if SIV show 300 MHz, at what GPU load % and other parameters


1285) Message boards : Number crunching : Dual graphics card issues (Message 1499072)
Posted 3 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Does anyone see anything special about that task that would explain it taking so long?

Yes, it say:
Max clock frequency: 300Mhz

This page gives for Cape Verde GPUs 800-1100 Mhz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_HD_7000_Series#Radeon_HD_7700

See what SIV shows (about Mhz, temperature, V, ... ):
http://rh-software.com/
http://rh-software.com/downloads/siv.zip

SIV will also show your motherboard model in the middle of the top line on main window.

1286) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Krisiya Todorova   [Signal found but was hidden - just Listen (1st April)     9 | !9 -> ?] (Message 1498865)
Posted 3 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Time to move this thread to 'Cafe SETI' ...
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_forum.php?id=11


The 'Klingon' translate site:
http://www.upsidedowntext.com/
:ǝʇ!s ǝʇɐlsuɐɹʇ ,uoƃu!lʞ, ǝɥ┴

Eht 'Nognilk' etalsnart etis:
http://www.fliptext.info/
:ǝʇıs ǝʇɐןsuɐɹʇ ,uoƃuıןʞ, ǝɥʇ

1287) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Krisiya Todorova   [Signal found but was hidden - just Listen (1st April)     9 | !9 -> ?] (Message 1498491)
Posted 2 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

(post to Edit the thread name)

If you didn't notice - the first link have English Captions
(almost correct translation of the beginning conversation - you may turn them ON manually, I don't know how to make link to turn Subs ON automatically):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dVM-pdJMFI

(at the end the boss say something like "this just can't be ..... and where are her parents?")

How tall is this bald guy? (1.98 m):
https://www.google.bg/#q=Slavi+Trifonov+Height

“Wrecking Ball” (No, she's not naked):
http://bit.ly/PgiYRG

1288) Message boards : Number crunching : Arecibo telescope closed by earthquake - no new data for a while (Message 1498307)
Posted 1 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Do you parse job_log_setiathome.berkeley.edu.txt for this or just the stdoutdae.txt?

It comes from job_log, combined across seven computers.

If you want more job_log files from other users/computers I sent you mine in PM
(contains also other files, the link was prepared on 18-03-2014 for the SETIspirit author)
1289) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Krisiya Todorova   [Signal found but was hidden - just Listen (1st April)     9 | !9 -> ?] (Message 1498017)
Posted 1 Apr 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Here it is if you Listen carefully:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dVM-pdJMFI&t=35
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ2Bnm3ACrQ&t=32

...

As we know the signals have to be repeated to be significant.

The same source emitted some more in the past weeks:

Here is evidence of huge diminishing of radiation from our sun:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5KRFVkxx7k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMsC_k1cPz8

This arguably go on from the bottom of the ocean:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0X57YMSJ2Q

From alien but refracted through southern hemisphere:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvupX0wurDE

This was sent from bug-like creatures some 45 light years away:
http://bit.ly/1lytKAO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdTFXjFokS4

"srettam esle gnihton" - this is probably in Klingon if you dare to translate:
http://bit.ly/1ms7N3z
http://bit.ly/1ojCz3q

1290) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU v. CPU - Is the GPU a sleepy fellow or is it the jobsize which is larger for the GPU? (Message 1496356)
Posted 27 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This is for?

OpenCL AstroPulse v6 (2 for NVIDIA, 1 for ATI AMD)
(difference between cuda_opencl_100 and opencl_nvidia_100 is only in the name (the same app for different BOINC versions))
(if you look up - for ATI AMD there are Linux OpenCL applications also for SETI@home v7)

Linux CUDA executable for SETI@home v7 exists but not as stock (not on the servers)
(CUDA is of course for NVIDIA only)


app_info.xml is not for me ;)

So you can use Linux CLI (which I can't), managed to use >20 lines of commands to install NVIDIA CUDA drivers
and you find it too difficult to merge 3 text files in a text editor and copy some files to SETI@home directory? ;)
(you probably want me to do the combined package ;) - which will not take much time (and will need only 'copy everything to SETI@home directory' and maybe chmod +x))
1291) Questions and Answers : Windows : I have not run seti@home for a long time its so different. (Message 1495379)
Posted 26 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
For your system:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7247734

... normally you'll see 8 CPU tasks and 1 GPU task running.

All looks good - you have only Valid tasks and no Errors/Invalids:

Valid (60) · Invalid (0) · Error (0)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7247734&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=

If you want to see graphics:
Select (on Tasks tab) a running CPU task and click [Show graphics] button.
(GPU tasks (CUDA or OpenCL) on SETI@home can't show graphics)
1292) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Having issues with GPU tasks (Message 1495374)
Posted 26 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
See if anything in this thread looks familiar and if any hint can help you:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74180
1293) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : Astropulse screen saver and graphics no longer working (Message 1494915)
Posted 25 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Tried the fix and failed miserably. Now I have a text editor window that will copy to my desktop no matter how many times I try to get rid of it. No doubt I broke many things and destroyed code while trying this.

'the fix' only say (using many words) to make the file executable.
"a text editor window that will copy to my desktop" and "destroyed code" do not make any sense to me ... (how 'chmod' can destroy code??)
1294) Message boards : Number crunching : Mix and match GPU? (Message 1493208)
Posted 22 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
And it's zipped.

On this page:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7gS2LYSNsbLS0NidnZ6RGRGTUE/edit?pli=1

there is ccConfig.exe

To Download: point the mouse after the text '1.8 MB' (at most right) and click (near where down arrow appears)
1295) Message boards : Number crunching : Mix and match GPU? (Message 1491997)
Posted 20 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Just remembered, there's boinc-client-configuration program. Haven't tried, no idea if it works or how well.

Uh, Oooooooooh ... I'm very stupid ... 'how to debug?' >200 posts wasted time ...
... and I was playing with this program ... just a month ago ... but did not find I need it so forget about it :(


Yes, it works!

@Miklos M.

The program is very easy - it is just one .exe in a .zip
You run this ccConfig.exe and just check/uncheck options and use [Save] button.
Then restart BOINC and the options are activated.

Get it:
BOINC client configuration (ccConfig.exe) (I repeat the same link as above)
http://code.google.com/p/boinc-client-configuration/

Look at it:






Use it ...

End of info for Miklos M.


************

More 'Advanced' info for others:

It (ccConfig.exe) finds where cc_config.xml has to be (i.e. finds BOINC Data directory from the registry),
reads cc_config.xml if it exists and shows checked what you already have enabled.
Also the first 3 log tags are checked by default.


My initial manually made cc_config.xml :
<cc_config>

   <log_flags>
      <benchmark_debug>1</benchmark_debug>
      <dcf_debug>1</dcf_debug>
      <checkpoint_debug>0</checkpoint_debug>
   </log_flags>

   <options>
      <start_delay>55</start_delay>
      <ncpus>-1</ncpus>

      <max_file_xfers>20</max_file_xfers>
      <max_file_xfers_per_project>10</max_file_xfers_per_project>

      <save_stats_days>3650</save_stats_days>
      <max_stdout_file_size>8388000</max_stdout_file_size>

      <zero_debts>0</zero_debts>
   </options>

</cc_config>



cc_config.xml after using ccConfig.exe and checking 'work_fetch_debug' and 'use_all_gpus' (yes - it added this first line):
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>
<cc_config>
    <log_flags>
        <benchmark_debug>1</benchmark_debug>
        <dcf_debug>1</dcf_debug>
        <work_fetch_debug>1</work_fetch_debug>
    </log_flags>
    <options>
        <use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
        <max_file_xfers>20</max_file_xfers>
        <max_file_xfers_per_project>10</max_file_xfers_per_project>
        <max_stdout_file_size>8388000</max_stdout_file_size>
        <save_stats_days>3650</save_stats_days>
        <start_delay>55</start_delay>
    </options>
</cc_config>



As you see it removes empty lines and sorts.
In fact it recreates the file using own formatting/indents/sort ...

When you uncheck - it removes the line (which is good - less clutter for the eye), do not just put '0' (or what it is the default)
It simply removes all lines that are at default, for me removed:
<checkpoint_debug>0</checkpoint_debug>
<ncpus>-1</ncpus>
<zero_debts>0</zero_debts>


I think it is good enough to recommend for (semi) beginners ;)

1296) Message boards : Number crunching : Dual graphics card issues (Message 1491868)
Posted 20 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
While the cards are in your hands you may take the opportunity to inspect them the Sherlock Holmes way - with looking glass and strong light.

Compare the soldering, traces, slot contacts (which you can clean by alcohol), pins where power cables connect, bulged capacitors, ...
Look also for any tiny conducting particles/material: metallic, graphite/soot, electrolyte ...

Even if you don't see such things consider using natural brush to clean the invisible 'normal' dust.

Check similar way the mainboard, especially the slots
1297) Questions and Answers : Windows : Seti not compatible with i5 processor? (Message 1491820)
Posted 20 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
knowing what the solution was could possibly be helpful.

I don't think he have "the solution", he just waited for 'things to normalize'
(Problem solved = Problem solved by itself)

Post 1: 15 Mar 2014, 13:33:56 UTC
Post 2: 15 Mar 2014, 13:43:19 UTC - only 10 minutes, only 2 work requests possible - and "Problem solved". ;)

He don't know that if BOINC asks for both CPU and GPU the server first will fill the GPU needs ("days of work" or to 100 tasks) and only then the server will fulfill the CPU requests.
Especially if Preferences are for bigger cache ("days of work").
1298) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : BOINC 7.2.42 does not work on os mavericks (Message 1491813)
Posted 20 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You don't give enough information.
"Boinc does not work" may mean many things.
(as "I can't drive my car" may mean: no fuel, my leg is broken, there is 2 m snow on the road, ...)

In what point (what did you do so far) you experienced this "does not work"?

OS 10.9.1 Install Error
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=8907

Boinc Manager on Max OS X 10.9 will not start
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=8694
1299) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Astropulse causes strange sounds from my monitor (Message 1491799)
Posted 20 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I plugged the monitor speakers into what I momentarily thought was audio out on my Bose Companion 2 speakers. I realized it was a 2nd audio input and for the moment it was attached I was hearing the weird sounds in the monitor now amplified quite a bit coming from my Bose speakers. At this time of course the monitor speakers were not attached directly to the computer at all but only to the Bose speakers.

So it seems the interference goes through the video cable to the monitor and then somehow through the monitor speakers' cable to the Bose speakers?
Do you use 3-wire mains cables (3-contact plugs) for the computer and monitor (and are they plugged in the same wall outlet)? (I'm not sure I use the correct words)
Maybe monitor have only 2-contact plug by design?


In fact I am now convinced that there is no reason to have them plugged in ...

Yes, if you have so good (and expensive?) Bose speakers there's no point to use those tiny monitor speakers (they are only for office use (to hear simple Windows sounds)).


To get AstroPulse tasks with bigger probability (in case you want "to listen to the apparent ghost in the monitor")
make the SETI@home preferences this way:

SETI@home Enhanced: no
SETI@home v7: no
AstroPulse v6: yes
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? yes

1300) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : 4-Way GPU computing (Message 1491797)
Posted 20 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
SLI doesn't matter for BOINC / SETI@home

In fact in the past (a few years ago, old NVIDIA drivers) it was necessary to disable SLI for BOINC to detect properly the number of GPUs
With current NVIDIA drivers BOINC works with SLI enabled/disabled

(I'm not sure if the speed of CUDA is lower with SLI enabled, I think the video RAM usage may be higher with SLI)
1301) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Astropulse causes strange sounds from my monitor (Message 1490842)
Posted 18 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I thought a old movie based on SETI research would be a well known reference on this forum.

Of course I know the movie Contact, I've seen it several times and like it.
But "sound coming from my monitor" 'sounds' more like a ghost movie and not Sci-Fi ;)


However I did discover tonight that disconnecting the monitor speakers stops the sounds.
Could it be that the monitor speakers are picking up some kind of interference signal that is obviously not going through the built in sound card on the system board?

You now know it's not the monitor itself :)

Since "sounds do not change when adjusting the volume all the way down, all the way up, or muted"
the interference is after the digital part and in the analogue amplifier.

Interference may be either electrical (by-wire) or electromagnetic (by-waves)

Computing on GPU do not go 'smooth', it is more like saw motion cutting wood -
RAM/PCIe transfer, memory blocks moved around inside video RAM, prepare some matrix, tell GPU to compute this 'chunk' at once, repeat
(the size of 'chunk' can be adjusted by the user (which will change the sound) but let not do this now)

Data in each task differs.
Many AstroPulse tasks have areas of different size (may be 1% or 10% or 90%) contaminated by earth radio noise.
Those bad parts are artificially filled by random numbers ('white noise' I think).
This is called 'blanking' and is done on the CPU so GPU is in small pauses during this.

Hence the load on the GPU goes like different pulses (on/off) and the electrical current changes.
This causes electromagnetic waves (if not shielded) and also voltage drops/ups on power lines.
These power lines (on the mainboard) also supply the sound amplifier.


So tests:
1) What happens if you connect headphones to the same 'hole' on the back of computer where the speakers were connected?

2) Open the computer and slowly move the power cables inside it (usually there are many) - what happens?

3) Get a piece of Aluminium foil, put it in 2-3 plastic or better paper bags/envelops (for safety, to avoid shorting the components),
put this isolated foil around the video card (front, back).
Do you hear any sound changes?

4) Try if other tests that load the GPU can produce similar effect:
- e.g. the OpenGL / OpenCL 'demos' in the GPU Caps Viewer
http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/


I know it is not April fools day but I do appreciate your little bit of humor.
I just thought I would share this interesting phenomenon and see if anyone else has had it happen on their system.

Happened similar to me but long ago (>15 years) - mouse pointer movement on screen was making sound.
I think the cause was the sound wire from CD to sound card was very near along the video card/chip

1302) Message boards : Number crunching : how to debug? (Message 1489981)
Posted 17 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
However, it would have been nice to be able to track down as to why copy & paste is not working.

1) Numerous times he posted that the contents of cc_config.xml are (SEE THE FIRST LINE!?):
(if you press [Quote] under his post you will see this - even with indents):
Client_configuration (cc_config.xml)  

<cc_config>
     <log_flags>
          <work_fetch_debug>1</work_fetch_debug>
     </log_flags>
</cc_config>


2) And the encoding may not be ANSI but Unicode
1303) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Adding second GPU to Boinc-Client. FAQ says "cc_config.xml" (Message 1489969)
Posted 17 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
All files you list are optional and can co-exist:
cc_config.xml
remote_hosts.cfg
app_info.xml and app_config.xml (the same settings in the second take precedence)
global_prefs.xml and global_prefs_override.xml (the same settings in the second take precedence)

(cc_config.xml and app_info.xml can't have the same settings so to "be ignored because it's in the other", do you see such settings/tags/options?

Of course there are some 'conflicts' - e.g. all of the above .xml files can have options that lead to less CPU tasks running:
<ncpus>XX</ncpus> in cc_config.xml
<max_ncpus_pct>YY.yy</max_ncpus_pct> in global_prefs.xml and/or global_prefs_override.xml
<avg_ncpus>Z.zz</avg_ncpus> in app_info.xml
<cpu_usage>Z.zz</cpu_usage> in app_config.xml

The 'additive' effect if using all of the above may seem strange to some.
)

global_prefs.xml is the copy of your web Computing preferences
global_prefs_override.xml is the 'save file' for your Local preferences

"work, home, mobile" (do not use mobile) can be set only on web

<venue name="school"> and other SETI@home preferences
are saved in account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml (BOINC get them from web and save in this file)
1304) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Astropulse causes strange sounds from my monitor (Message 1489950)
Posted 17 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm sure you have heard of this before ...

Of course not (I'm reading the forums for years)
Is it April 1-st already? ;)

What is shown on the monitor when you hear "odd repeating sounds"? (screensaver?)
How do you know "The sound is coming from my monitor and not my speakers"? (or fans, DVD, ...)

VG248QE - "Built-in 2W stereo speakers"
https://www.asus.com/Monitors_Projectors/VG248QE/

And no, "sounds" are not by design (SETI@home/AstroPulse applications do not produce any sounds)

1305) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Abnormal behaviour of the GPU tasks (Message 1489939)
Posted 17 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... haven't overclocked either the CPU or the GPU. The BOINC manager doesn't recognize my Graphic card correctly. It is ATI R9 270X

Then it may be slightly overclocked version (overclocked by the card manufacturer)
https://www.google.bg/#q=R9+270X+oc

ATI AMD give for GPU Clock Speed 'Up to 1.05GHz'
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/r9/Pages/amd-radeon-hd-r9-series.aspx#5

(This was only one crash, nothing to worry about if do not happen 'often')
1306) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Abnormal behaviour of the GPU tasks (Message 1489826)
Posted 16 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7219652&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=

This was task that was 'hang' for too long (10x the estimate): 'Maximum elapsed time exceeded'
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3436095225

Some of the tasks have this error:
'SETI@home error -6 Bad workunit header'
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3425990773
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3435957170

Something maybe corrupted the WU file:
- bad Internet
- computer hang or restart during download
- Antivirus interfering

http://boincwiki.mundayweb.com/index.php?title=Add_the_BOINC_Data_directory_to_the_exclusions_of_my_antivirus_program


And this is crash (may happen if game started during GPU compute; if do not happen too often may be considered as just a glitch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glitch):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3426520210

Or is caused by too much Overclock:
- from tasks: Max clock frequency: 1100Mhz
- from ATI AMD:
860MHz Engine Clock for HD 7850
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7850/pages/radeon-7850.aspx#3

1000MHz Engine Clock for HD 7870
http://www.amd.com/US/PRODUCTS/DESKTOP/GRAPHICS/7000/7800/Pages/radeon-7800.aspx#2

(and the two pages differ: 800MHz is shown on the second for HD 7850)

1307) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU v. CPU - Is the GPU a sleepy fellow or is it the jobsize which is larger for the GPU? (Message 1489638)
Posted 16 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
BOINC and SETI using app_info.xml. For what and for what reason??

For the n-th time:
There is NO stock SETI@home v7 Linux CUDA app for now:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

(i.e. there is NO such Linux CUDA executable on the servers)


OK! So we are using the app_info.xml to tell SETI servers (and Asteroid servers in my case, but this is another case for another thread) which applications we would like to receive and run.

No - not 'receive'
When app_info.xml is present BOINC server (the Software that runs on SETI@home servers) will NOT send you ANY applications.
You need to already have them.
Server will send only tasks (for the applications specified in app_info.xml)


Before app_info.xml
Looking at the applications appointed my cruncher "halifax" without the use of app_info.xml, I can see this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7238932
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=7238932

Under jobs, I can see the following being crunched:
SETI@home v7 v7.01
AstroPulse v6 v6.03
AstroPulse v6 v6.01

Under Applications I can see:
AstroPulse v6 6.01 i686-pc-linux-gnu
AstroPulse v6 6.03 86_64-pc-linux-gnu
SETI@home v7 7.01 i686-pc-linux-gnu
SETI@home v7 7.01 x86_64-pc-linux-gnu

So right now this cruncher "halifax" is doing both 32bit jobs and 64bit jobs of both AstroPulse and SETI@home!?!?

All are for CPU


I found this, and I guess its something like that which needs to be added to my app_info.xml file. But I cant find the files for Linux.

Read again:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74153&postid=1487416#1487416

... and go 3 links deep to get the apps (packed in .7z files).


Here's the content as I guess it needs to be:

No, it's very old.
The 'content' is in the above linked .7z files
(If you had looked at them all this post had to be unnesessary)


I'm not sure where to put the files. The app_info.xml, yes, but not the others. I have read that they go into the projects directory. But where is this when only using the boinc-client. I need to find that too.

The 'projects directory' is in the BOINC Data directory which is listed in the first lines in Messages tab on BoincTasks:

1 15-03-2014 08:26 Starting BOINC client version 6.10.58 for windows_intelx86
2 15-03-2014 08:26 log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task, benchmark_debug, dcf_debug
3 15-03-2014 08:26 Libraries: libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.3
4 15-03-2014 08:26 Data directory: H:\BOINC-Data


Look in your Messages to find your 'Data directory'
Every app_info.xml is for one project only:
- app_info.xml for SETI@home go to SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)
- app_info.xml for Asteroids@home go to Asteroids@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\asteroidsathome.net_boinc\)

At the same directory you put the apps (they now exist there, the stock apps)


Conclusion!?
Using the app_info.xml we can crunch data using our GPU's! But where else is the advantage in using app_info.xml? Is there other advantages?

Copy from my previous post:

* What all of the above (if you use all the 3 packages) will give you:

Optimized SETI@home v7 CPU SSE3 app (MBv7_7.05r1848_sse3_linux64_CPU0.7z) - faster than the stock app
SETI@home v7 CUDA app so your NVIDIA can do SETI@home tasks - the only way for now (as already noted there is no stock SETI@home CUDA app for Linux)
Newer AstroPulse OpenCL app for NVIDIA (I think it have less CPU usage than the stock (which is of the same author))

And I use app_info.xml to be able to use on my computer:
on the CPU: only SETI@home v7 SSE2
on the ATI AMD GPU: only AstroPulse OpenCL
1308) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Abnormal behaviour of the GPU tasks (Message 1489623)
Posted 16 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This 'hang' happens sometimes at start of ATI tasks.

You may try to:

1) Free a CPU core (run one less CPU task) by:
"On multiprocessors, use at most 99% of the processors"
in Computing preferences

2) The following command is equivalent to 'Snooze GPU' but only for 13 seconds
(this will stop/exit all GPU tasks/apps and restart them again after 13 seconds):

boinccmd.exe --set_gpu_mode never 13

a) Make a shortcut to boinccmd.exe
Edit the shortcut to add the above cmdline parameters
Run the shortcut manually when needed

b) Schedule the above command to run every 30 or 60 minutes


Надявам се поне едно от тези да помогне.
Давам 13 сек. като пример, може да пробваш и с 5
1309) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU v. CPU - Is the GPU a sleepy fellow or is it the jobsize which is larger for the GPU? (Message 1489186)
Posted 15 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I saw these on your profile/berkeley site:

AstroPulse v6
Anonymous platform (ATI GPU)

SETI@home v7
Anonymous platform (CPU)

Again this "Anonymous platform"!?!?

I use app_info.xml - everyone that do this is shown on the website as using Anonymous platform

My app_info.xml (I don't use all possible applications for my computer (Windows XP + AMD CPU + ATI AMD GPU), only what I prefer - SETI@home v7 on CPU + AstroPulse OpenCL for ATI GPU)
http://pastebin.com/hnjci4UX


There are some standard/predefined platforms:
<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
<platform>windows_x86_64</platform>
<platform>x86_64-pc-linux-gnu</platform>
.....
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/BoincPlatforms

Your BOINC tells BOINC server on what 'platform' it runs, BOINC server looks what apps are available on the server that can run on your 'platform' + CPU + GPU type and sends them (if any).


'Anonymous platform' means platform-with-no-name or 'platform of unknown name':
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/anonymous

This is the way to tell BOINC server:
"don't mind what my 'platform' is, just send me tasks of 'this kind' for my CPU and 'that kind' for my GPU, I already have apps that can run on my computer and I described them in an app_info.xml"

1310) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU v. CPU - Is the GPU a sleepy fellow or is it the jobsize which is larger for the GPU? (Message 1489173)
Posted 15 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Get the 3 packages (.7z files), see what's inside them, then ask
(the 'problem' part is: which of the .xml files to 'merge' to get proper app_info.xml)


In short:
Copy from 'Files_to_install' all files except app_info.xml
to SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)
I heard on Linux you may need also to:
chmod +x

Compose proper app_info.xml by 'merging' some of the example files (what to 'merge' depend on which combination of packages you will use, more info only if you are interested)

WARNING: Bad app_info.xml may make BOINC delete all SETI@home tasks you have now, you may prefer to finish/report them all first, then:
Copy that combined app_info.xml to SETI@home directory and restart BOINC


* 'merge' in this case means: concatenate 2 files, then remove these 2 lines in the middle:
</app_info>
<app_info>


* What all of the above (if you use all the 3 packages) will give you:
Optimized SETI@home v7 CPU SSE3 app (MBv7_7.05r1848_sse3_linux64_CPU0.7z) - faster than the stock app
SETI@home v7 CUDA app so your NVIDIA can do SETI@home tasks - the only way for now (as already noted there is no stock SETI@home CUDA app for Linux)
Newer AstroPulse OpenCL app for NVIDIA (I think it have less CPU usage than the stock (which is of the same author))

1311) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Cant boinccmd --project http://setiathome.berkeley.edu update -> after cc_config.xml created?? (Message 1489154)
Posted 15 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Errors:
# boinccmd --project http://setiathome.berkeley.edu update
Error -155: authentication error

1) I think the URL have to have "/" at the end:
boinccmd --project http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ update

2) I don't understand why you still insist on only using CLI when you now have BoincTasks
Just right-click on task or project and ...
1312) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : Screensaver Settings? (Message 1487457)
Posted 11 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I suggest you set "Blank screensaver after" near the time set for your monitor to sleep (there is no point to run the screensaver invisible when monitor sleeps)

See the picture and link in this post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74181&postid=1481591#1481591

Probably you want something like this:




This will show the graphics of first task for 2 minutes then switch to show the next SETI@home task.
After 30 minutes the screen will go Blank (Black)

1313) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : CPU or GPU when running SETI@home on systems with CPU & GPU's ?? (Message 1487427)
Posted 11 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Don't trust this OOOOOOOLD info (maybe 6 years old)

I even don't know how did you get there, I needed to Google "No. If BOINC determines your CPU" to find the page:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/cuda_faq.php
1314) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU v. CPU - Is the GPU a sleepy fellow or is it the jobsize which is larger for the GPU? (Message 1487416)
Posted 11 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Also see this post for more links:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74253&postid=1485135#1485135

And you'll need to edit ('merge') the app_info.xml file accordingly.

The info about app_info.xml is in the packages and in this general description: Anonymous platform


Of course there will be no point in 'installing' (manually) any CUDA app if BOINC do not detect CUDA
or 'installing' any OpenCL app if BOINC do not detect OpenCL

1315) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU v. CPU - Is the GPU a sleepy fellow or is it the jobsize which is larger for the GPU? (Message 1487373)
Posted 11 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
To be done by (sent to) GPU the label of the task have to contain word CUDA or OpenCL, like:
Linux/x86_64 7.04 (opencl_ati5_linux) (this is for ATI AMD OpenCL SETI@home v7)
Linux/x86_64 6.07 (cuda_opencl_100) (this is for NVIDIA OpenCL AstroPulse v6)

Tasks marked:
Linux/x86_64 7.01 (for SETI@home v7)
Linux/x86_64 6.03 (for AstroPulse v6)

... are of course done by CPU only.
1316) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU v. CPU - Is the GPU a sleepy fellow or is it the jobsize which is larger for the GPU? (Message 1487010)
Posted 10 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Another problem which I just noticed, is that the GPU only runs asteroid jobs and not SETI jobs. This I don't get.

Re-read your threads - maybe 2-3 times I gave you links on how to do SETI@home CUDA on Linux ...
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73359&postid=1479147#1479147

For the 'speed' of Asteroids@home CUDA app ask on their thread (this link for this table was already posted by me, no need to ask here for the speed of another project app - they will know better):
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/forum_thread.php?id=233&postid=2228#2228
1317) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU Detection Failed, Error Code 1073740940 (Message 1485662)
Posted 7 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Try what CUDA-Z have to say:
http://cuda-z.sourceforge.net/
1318) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC add-on -SETIspirit v2.0.0- released (Message 1485639)
Posted 7 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:


With the new 20 MB stdoutdae.archiv file the numbers are OK (after hours of running):





(for me it's still unclear why with the original big file the first 10-20 s after start SETIspirit shows correct numbers and only later switches to big numbers)

The problem with 0 / 0 tasks (bottom-left) for SETI@home (and no 'user id') may be because I use BOINC 6.10.58 (still popular version)
(AstroPulse is OK - now that they become available I see correct number for AstroPulse GPU WUs, the picture was taken before that)

You seem to use boinccmd.exe --get_state and analyze the output.
In the .7z file I sent you there is 'getstate 1.txt' which you may inspect to see the difference from BOINC 7.x
(I created it by manually running getprojects.cmd)


* Other tests I did:

1) Edited my 'big file' and removed the "invalid character" (new size is 1 byte less: 79.0 MB (82 882 912 bytes))
(the byte was 1A hex (EOF) - obviously happened when I merged 14 .old files from backups by using COPY (don't remember if I used switches)
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9699976/batch-script-to-merge-files-without-hex-char-1a-at-the-end
)

- this does not make difference - the fixed 'big file' (with no "invalid character") causes again bad numbers in SETIspirit


2) Installed again SETIspirit-setup v1.2.5 which also shows bad numbers (so it's not some new code)
(after this test I installed SETIspirit-setup v2.1.2 again)

3) I may try to split the original big file in smaller parts to see at which point the big is really big ;)


debug.log (only the part at the end of file - from the last run when the picture was taken):

06.03.2014 13:49:53 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.InstallBOINCSkin(): 76 Pfad nicht gefunden SETIspirit
06.03.2014 14:20:56 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).WuName=wu_v4_1393357776_179795
06.03.2014 14:20:56 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Call GetProjects
06.03.2014 14:20:56 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Das ProjectApps()-Array ist NICHT dimensioniert!
06.03.2014 14:20:56 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).Project=ProjectX
06.03.2014 17:12:34 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).WuName=ps_140302_68771_13
06.03.2014 17:12:34 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Call GetProjects
06.03.2014 17:12:34 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Das ProjectApps()-Array ist NICHT dimensioniert!
06.03.2014 17:12:34 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).Project=ProjectX
06.03.2014 17:20:51 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).WuName=ps_140302_68772_10
06.03.2014 17:20:51 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Call GetProjects
06.03.2014 17:20:51 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Das ProjectApps()-Array ist NICHT dimensioniert!
06.03.2014 17:20:51 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).Project=ProjectX
06.03.2014 17:41:00 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).WuName=ps_140302_68772_20
06.03.2014 17:41:01 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Call GetProjects
06.03.2014 17:41:01 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Das ProjectApps()-Array ist NICHT dimensioniert!
06.03.2014 17:41:01 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).Project=ProjectX
06.03.2014 19:58:26 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).WuName=ps_140302_68773_5
06.03.2014 19:58:26 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Call GetProjects
06.03.2014 19:58:26 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Das ProjectApps()-Array ist NICHT dimensioniert!
06.03.2014 19:58:26 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).Project=ProjectX
06.03.2014 20:22:15 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).WuName=wu_v4_1393357776_185798
06.03.2014 20:22:15 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Call GetProjects
06.03.2014 20:22:15 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Das ProjectApps()-Array ist NICHT dimensioniert!
06.03.2014 20:22:15 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).Project=ProjectX
06.03.2014 21:37:27 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).WuName=ps_140302_68773_4
06.03.2014 21:37:27 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Call GetProjects
06.03.2014 21:37:27 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Das ProjectApps()-Array ist NICHT dimensioniert!
06.03.2014 21:37:27 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).Project=ProjectX
06.03.2014 22:23:03 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).WuName=ps_140302_68773_3
06.03.2014 22:23:03 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Call GetProjects
06.03.2014 22:23:03 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Das ProjectApps()-Array ist NICHT dimensioniert!
06.03.2014 22:23:03 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).Project=ProjectX
06.03.2014 22:57:51 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).WuName=ps_140302_68773_21
06.03.2014 22:57:51 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Call GetProjects
06.03.2014 22:57:51 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Das ProjectApps()-Array ist NICHT dimensioniert!
06.03.2014 22:57:51 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).Project=ProjectX
07.03.2014 00:12:12 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).WuName=ps_140302_68773_2
07.03.2014 00:12:12 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Call GetProjects
07.03.2014 00:12:12 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Das ProjectApps()-Array ist NICHT dimensioniert!
07.03.2014 00:12:12 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).Project=ProjectX
07.03.2014 02:23:51 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).WuName=wu_v4_1393357776_191677
07.03.2014 02:23:52 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Call GetProjects
07.03.2014 02:23:52 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Das ProjectApps()-Array ist NICHT dimensioniert!
07.03.2014 02:23:52 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).Project=ProjectX
07.03.2014 03:07:09 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).WuName=ps_140302_68773_20
07.03.2014 03:07:09 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Call GetProjects
07.03.2014 03:07:09 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Das ProjectApps()-Array ist NICHT dimensioniert!
07.03.2014 03:07:09 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).Project=ProjectX
07.03.2014 03:52:13 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).WuName=ps_140302_68773_1
07.03.2014 03:52:14 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Call GetProjects
07.03.2014 03:52:14 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Das ProjectApps()-Array ist NICHT dimensioniert!
07.03.2014 03:52:14 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).Project=ProjectX
07.03.2014 04:26:31 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).WuName=ps_140302_68773_19
07.03.2014 04:26:31 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Call GetProjects
07.03.2014 04:26:31 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Das ProjectApps()-Array ist NICHT dimensioniert!
07.03.2014 04:26:31 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).Project=ProjectX
07.03.2014 07:30:50 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).WuName=ps_140302_68773_18
07.03.2014 07:30:50 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Call GetProjects
07.03.2014 07:30:50 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Das ProjectApps()-Array ist NICHT dimensioniert!
07.03.2014 07:30:50 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).Project=ProjectX
07.03.2014 08:25:26 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).WuName=wu_v4_1394086381_5534
07.03.2014 08:25:26 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Call GetProjects
07.03.2014 08:25:26 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): Das ProjectApps()-Array ist NICHT dimensioniert!
07.03.2014 08:25:26 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.SaveWuRecord(): WuSlot(iSlot).Project=ProjectX
1319) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC add-on -SETIspirit v2.0.0- released (Message 1484813)
Posted 5 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
stdoutdae.txt and stdoutdae.old are 'big' files if you accumulate all of them.

I wonder why you don't use (also) the job_log_*.txt files:
- they do not vanish
(even if user detach project - I have job_log_einstein.phys.uwm.edu.txt 11.12.2010 - I detached at that time and only re-attached a few days ago (but did not do any tasks), file still is here)
- they are smaller
- they contain tasks per project (easier to count tasks for that projects)

First column is date/time in Unix format:
http://www.onlineconversion.com/unix_time.htm

E.g. 1394003154 = Wed, 05 Mar 2014 07:05:54 GMT

For the meaning of next columns:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=41908&postid=634916#634916

The last Column 'et XXXX.YYY' (which may not exist on some lines if old enough BOINC was used) is (I think) 'elapsed time' = 'Run time'


I have 5 job_log_*.txt files (total 3.73 MB)
The earliest time is:
1190226325.146484 ue 61321.533732 ct 14319.625000 fe 136996235900014.000000 nm 03mr07ac.6191.8661.7.6.86_1

1190226325.146484 = Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:25:25 GMT
1320) Message boards : Number crunching : Replacing ap_6.01r546_sse3_linux32 with ap_6.01r546_avx_linux32 (Message 1484801)
Posted 5 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I think it depends on the executable where it creates/looks for the 'wisdom' file (some look in directory of executable, some in current (slot) directory)

Optimized apps for Windows look in directory of executable.
Stock apps for Windows seem to look in current (slot) directory.

So on my old Windows 98 computer (where I have to use the stock apps but with app_info.xml to supply different DLL) I use:
<file_ref>
<file_name>wisdom.sah</file_name>
<copy_file/>
</file_ref>


Full app_info.xml is (just as an example, near the end is <copy_file/>):
<app_info>

    <app>
        <name>setiathome_v7</name>
    </app>

    <file_info>
        <name>setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>setigraphics_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>libfftw3f-3-3_upx.dll</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>Psapi.dll</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>wisdom.sah</name>
    </file_info>

    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_v7</app_name>
        <version_num>700</version_num>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>setigraphics_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>libfftw3f-3-3_upx.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>Psapi.dll</file_name>
            <copy_file/>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>wisdom.sah</file_name>
            <copy_file/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>

</app_info>


So (for faster app startup) you need:
- copy wisdom.dat from slot to where ap_6.01r546_sse3_linux32 binary is
- add to your app_info.xml in the appropriate place:
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>wisdom.dat</file_name>
            <copy_file/>
        </file_ref>


Do the same again when you change the binary.

For BOINC <copy_file/> means: "copy this file from the directory where app_info.xml is to the working slot directory"
1321) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC add-on -SETIspirit v2.0.0- released (Message 1484773)
Posted 5 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Please send me your compressed stdoutdae.archiv file. I will return it, after I've downsized it with the Database Maintenance Tool.

OK, in PM


Please see the system requirements in the SETIspirit FAQ...

http://www.setispirit.de/fullfaq.html

These 2 files are different:
http://www.setispirit.de/fullfaq.html
http://www.setispirit.de/index_htm_files/fullfaq.html

In the second there is addition:
"
I'm just wondering if there is a way to listen to the audio of the SETI@home workunit file while it is processing on my computer? The actual audio would make it feel more real!

I agree, it would be interesting to hear the space sounds but I don't have an idea, if this is possible. Also the SETI@home workunits are very small files (less than 400 kb) which have only a very short time of audio signals.
"

My info about that (newest first):

My mod of the next script + MB v6 WUs (so you can listen to their sound/noise) (for MB v7 WUs will need new mod):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73255&postid=1442263#1442263

Seti BOINC workunit to sound convert script (not my, extracts bytes from MB v6 WUs to convert to Classic WU format then uses wu2wav.exe)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69571

Classic SETI in action (by me) (+ "Classic" sound by using wu2wav.exe which I found at http://gamma.nic.fi/~jknutar/wu2wav/):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=63288&postid=1082291#1082291
1322) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU v. CPU - Is the GPU a sleepy fellow or is it the jobsize which is larger for the GPU? (Message 1484716)
Posted 5 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The GPU will always use a portion of the CPU to check the data. Volunteer is right, your GPU isn't much fast than your CPU. Hope this helped explain, if not I can post a LONGER explanation.

OK, it's just that the CUDA/GPU job was 12 hours to finish, and the CPU did 4 jobs in 1.5 hours!?!?

OK, somebody told you that it is faster to go to town by car and not by bicycle.

Then you decide to try a car from 1920 driven by your grandma (slow GPU, slow/new Asteroids@home CUDA app)
to compare to your professional/sports bicycle (carbon fibers, etc.) ridden by a racer (fast CPU, fast/optimized Asteroids@home CPU apps - for a year they become 4-5 times faster)

If you try this comparison on SETI@home CUDA apps you will see much better speed on the same GPU
(I already gave you a link to Asteroids@home forum thread with table that shows how slow Asteroids@home CUDA app is)


Your CPU core do a task in 1.5 hours, my ~500 MHz CPU from 2000 do it in 3-5 days - there is nothing strange that different Hardware/Software will do the same work in different time.

For CUDA tasks the 'Run time' (clock time) is what matters, 'CPU time' is only used to feed the GPU with data and some more management functions (e.g. to update 'Progress %')
1323) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU v. CPU - Is the GPU a sleepy fellow or is it the jobsize which is larger for the GPU? (Message 1484700)
Posted 5 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Can you explain this? The GPU time stamp is weird! And according to BilBg all work units are the same size.

Actually, that's not entirely true, and I don't think that's what BilBg was trying to tell you.

More accurately, all workunits are the same physical size. That is, each SETI@home MultiBeam v7 workunit is 367KiBi (Kilo-binary bytes).

No to both (= I didn't imply either meaning)

In fact my sentence was:
"Wrong assumption for both Asteroids@home and SETI@home as tasks send to CPU or GPU are the same."

I.e. exactly the same WU is sent to somebody's CPU and your GPU (or vice versa) (or to 2 different CPUs, or to 2 different GPUs)
1324) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Mac Screensaver Strangeness (Message 1484695)
Posted 5 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... or to return to BOINC 7.2.33, which didn't have the problem.

What happens if you save the files boinc.scr and boincscr.exe from 7.2.33 installation
then install BOINC 7.2.39 and manually replace those files (both or only one) with the 7.2.33 versions?
1325) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC add-on -SETIspirit v2.0.0- released (Message 1484675)
Posted 5 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Updated from v1.2.5 to v2.1.2 which shows some strange big numbers.

From SETIspirit.ini

v1.2.5 (values look plausible)

[Project Status]
FirstStart=13-Nov-2009 17:13:39
LastStart=04-Mar-2014 17:44:49
ProgramStarts= 728
ProjectRuntime=1572 days
TotalAPWUs=4473
TotalSetiWUs=16544
WUsToday=23


v2.1.2 (values look impossible)

[Project Status]
FirstStart=13-Nov-2009 17:13:39
LastStart=04-Mar-2014 17:44:49
ProgramStarts= 4006918
ProjectRuntime=1572 days
TotalAPWUs=2474861
TotalSetiWUs=154679
WUsToday=30
WUsYesterday=36
TotalNonSetiWUs=1195246


(Note:
v2.1.2 - values become normal (in GUI and in SETIspirit.ini) only for a few seconds after starting SETIspirit

[Project Status]
FirstStart=13-Nov-2009 17:13:39
LastStart=04-Mar-2014 17:44:49
ProgramStarts= 728
ProjectRuntime=1573 days
TotalAPWUs=4473
TotalSetiWUs=16563
WUsToday=10
WUsYesterday=35
TotalNonSetiWUs=5111
)


Compare with 'Number of tasks completed' (which are 20-30% lower than the real total but not to this magnitude of 100 or 1000 times different)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=4832843


On the GUI some of these big values are truncated (biggest digit not shown)




Also the numbers 0/0 (at bottom-left) for SETI@home cpl./avl. are not true.
(by the way: you can remove text "cpl./avl." from every line and put it as column headers over the numbers (or show only as tooltip))

Compare with online count for SETI@home vs Non SETI@home
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=4832843&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1&appid=
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/results.php?hostid=110&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1&appid=


Do you need my stdoutdae.archiv file?


From debug.log (I removed empty lines)

debugging logfile created at 31.10.2013 05:53:39

31.10.2013 05:53:39 [1.2.5] - modBOINC.InstallBOINCSkin(): 76 Pfad nicht gefunden SETIspirit
31.10.2013 05:58:16 [1.2.5] - frmWUReports.Form_Load(): 380 Ungultiger Eigenschaftswert SETIspirit
31.10.2013 05:59:54 [1.2.5] - frmWUReports.Form_Load(): 380 Ungultiger Eigenschaftswert SETIspirit
31.10.2013 06:00:25 [1.2.5] - frmWUReports.Form_Load(): 380 Ungultiger Eigenschaftswert SETIspirit
31.10.2013 06:04:14 [1.2.5] - modBOINC.InstallBOINCSkin(): 76 Pfad nicht gefunden SETIspirit
31.10.2013 06:07:21 [1.2.5] - frmMain.cmdSkyMap_Click(): 438 Objekt unterstutzt diese Eigenschaft oder Methode nicht SETIspirit
18.12.2013 07:16:12 [1.2.5] - modBOINC.InstallBOINCSkin(): 76 Pfad nicht gefunden SETIspirit
07.01.2014 18:52:57 [1.2.5] - modBOINC.InstallBOINCSkin(): 76 Pfad nicht gefunden SETIspirit
04.03.2014 18:41:23 [1.2.5] - modBOINC.InstallBOINCSkin(): 76 Pfad nicht gefunden SETIspirit
04.03.2014 20:03:11 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.InstallBOINCSkin(): 76 Pfad nicht gefunden SETIspirit
04.03.2014 20:04:16 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.ReplaceBin(): 14 Nicht genugend Zeichenfolgenspeicher SETIspirit
04.03.2014 20:04:17 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.ReplaceBin(): 14 Nicht genugend Zeichenfolgenspeicher SETIspirit
04.03.2014 20:04:17 [2.1.2] - modBOINC.ReplaceBin(): 14 Nicht genugend Zeichenfolgenspeicher SETIspirit
..... (the last lines appear >100 more times)

("Nicht genugend Zeichenfolgenspeicher" Google Translate to "Not sufficiently string memory")


Features (if possible):
- user to change colors (e.g. the blue text is too dark for me (on CRT monitor 21" Philips 201B4))
- user to choose:
ShowToolTipsDelay (ms or s to wait before ToolTip appears)
ShowToolTipsTime (ms or s ToolTip is shown (now is ~5 s))

1326) Message boards : Number crunching : 194 (0xc2) EXIT_ABORTED_BY_CLIENT - "finish file present too long" (Message 1484065)
Posted 3 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Deleting the "boinc_finish_called" file from each slot directory before restarting BOINC not only allowed the AP tasks to restart successfully and finish without triggering an error, ...

Since I see no normal reason for boinc_finish_called file to exist when BOINC is not running
I suggest using a .bat file (DEL_boinc_finish_called.bat) put in BOINC Data directory, create shortcut to it, put the shortcut in Startup and/or run it manually:
@If Exist slots\*.*  Del /s slots\boinc_finish_called  >>DEL_boinc_finish_called.Log
:@Pause


I tested with a copy of slots\ in empty directory:
Deleted file - h:\BOINC-Data\- Bil -\_TTT_\slots\0\boinc_finish_called
Deleted file - h:\BOINC-Data\- Bil -\_TTT_\slots\2\boinc_finish_called


It seems you do not start BOINC automatically at startup but for those that do probably need some start_delay:
<cc_config>
   <options>
      <start_delay>55</start_delay>
   </options>
</cc_config>
1327) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : weird error on GPU job - looks like result was too long but says aborted (Message 1483934)
Posted 3 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
EXIT_ABORTED_BY_CLIENT. I did not abort it

You are the User, not the 'CLIENT' (CLIENT = boinc.exe)

"finish file" = the boinc_finish_called file (appears (created by app) in a slot (...\<BOINC-Data>\slots\) when app is finished the task)
"present too long" = more than 10 sec (if app is still in memory 10 sec after the file boinc_finish_called was created by the app (considered by BOINC as app-hang))

Stupid new BOINC 'feature' which kills (aborts, deletes) perfectly well finished tasks.

194 (0xc2) EXIT_ABORTED_BY_CLIENT - "finish file present too long":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73704

1328) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU v. CPU - Is the GPU a sleepy fellow or is it the jobsize which is larger for the GPU? (Message 1483916)
Posted 3 Mar 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You could try posting here and see what these people think.

I don't think I'm good enough for those guru's. Maybe.. I don't know.

Don't be so shy ;)

See a poster ([B^S] madmac) which 'Joined: 9 Feb 04' have 'Posts: 1130' and still don't understand ... well, almost everything ;)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74015

(See the style he writes:
"Click on what it said now will have to wait as computer needs to be restarted and have over 139 windows updates to do or have I done it wrong need information so that my gpu is checked to see if it can run Seti etc"
- because of that, hmm ... 'style', I never respond to him for years
)

*****

Instead of re-posting in Number Crunching you may create a thread there with links to most important for you threads that you already have here in Questions and Answers

E.g.
Title:
Servers, Linux, NVIDIA - can you help me to do it right?

Text:
I have some threads in Questions and Answers about that but I need more technical help from people knowing how to setup Linux Servers with NVIDIA drivers so they can work with BOINC for CUDA and OpenCL apps

Summary:
I am building ... (just a few sentences to describe in short what you want to do)

You may read and help me in these threads:
<links to most important for you threads that you have in Questions and Answers, e.g. the one for Linux + NVIDIA drivers + CUDA and OpenCL + BOINC + SETI@home>

1329) Questions and Answers : Windows : Problem with graphics (Message 1482880)
Posted 28 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Yes I went under each of my projects and the graphics was grayed out

Did you select a Running task? (on Tasks tab)
1330) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU v. CPU - Is the GPU a sleepy fellow or is it the jobsize which is larger for the GPU? (Message 1482242)
Posted 27 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
But how can we compare GPU's and GPU's to CPU's ???

You can't really do some 'compare' that will be valid for all cases (problems, algorithms, programs)
The theoretical figures are inflated - given for the 'best' case when/if you load all the cores at all times to the max.

The difference:
- every CPU core can do/compute totally different 'things' (algorithms, instructions) independent of other cores
- all GPU 'cores' (or at least big group of them) have to compute the same instruction (at one point in time) on multiple data (matrix)

So to be able to load all GPU 'cores' the algorithm and implementation have to be highly parallel.


You can use the results of WUProp@Home
http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/results/compar_gpu.py?fabricant=NVIDIA&type=GeForce+600+Series&modele=GeForce+GT+640

(at the left is menu to choose different GPU to compare)

You can see how MilkyWay@Home is very bad optimized for NVIDIA
I'm not sure if this graph takes into account how many simultaneous tasks per GPU are run
Also some of the data may be from only one computer (not averaged)

This is for my GPU
http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/results/compar_gpu.py?fabricant=ATI&type=HD+6000&modele=Radeon+HD+6570


You can participate in WUProp@Home if you wish - it do not load the CPU at all:
http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/index.php


P.S.
I'm not sure what do you think is a "super cruncher" but the really big super crunchers are in this list:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/top_hosts.php
1331) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU v. CPU - Is the GPU a sleepy fellow or is it the jobsize which is larger for the GPU? (Message 1482226)
Posted 27 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I installed Intel i5-3470 which is NOT a 64bit processor!

What do you mean by this?
http://ark.intel.com/products/68316/intel-core-i5-3470-processor-6m-cache-up-to-3_60-ghz
http://ark.intel.com/products/65520/Intel-Core-i5-3570K-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_80-GHz

... both:
"Instruction Set 64-bit"

In fact they look very much similar.
And i5-3470 shown to have some more 'Advanced Technologies' which is strange as Specifications look like the same chip with only small difference in GHz and Intel HD Graphics version.

(I also wonder how did you manage to install 64 bit Linux on "NOT a 64bit" processor ;) )

I don't think there exist 'today' Intel or AMD CPUs that are "NOT 64bit"
1332) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD driver failed and recovered (Message 1482201)
Posted 27 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm fairly certain I'm not the only one around Not having problems with SETI@home v7 v7.03 (opencl_ati5_cat132) or SETI@home v7 v7.03 (opencl_ati_cat132) in Windows 8.1.

Except that your is Windows 8.1 32 bit (the only 2 problem machines I know/remember are using 'Windows 8.1 Core x64 Edition')
Yes, this problem can't be widespread (else I expect more than just 2 reports)


Seems like a combination of factors may cause this 'hang':

1) Windows 8.x x64

2) Weak GPU (low 'compute units')

John's 'AMD Radeon HD 6350/6450/7450/7470 series (Caicos)':

Used GPU device parameters are:
Number of compute units: 2
Single buffer allocation size: 64MB
max WG size: 256


TJ13's 'AMD A10-4600M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics'

Used GPU device parameters are:
Number of compute units: 6
Single buffer allocation size: 64MB
max WG size: 256


3) Maybe combination of BOINC version and ATI app version (TJ13's computer runs BOINC 7.0.28 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6973921 )

4) I'm not sure if it depend on ATI driver version
1333) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD driver failed and recovered (Message 1482192)
Posted 27 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Well, I tried going back to 7.0.28 this morning. It made no difference.

How long did you stay on BOINC 7.0.28 ?
Are you sure BOINC 7.0.28 was installed properly and that version was really running?
Did you use this file?:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_7.0.28_windows_x86_64.exe

Your computer still (or again?) shows 'BOINC version 7.2.39':
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7177463
1334) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD driver failed and recovered (Message 1482188)
Posted 27 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I decided to try removing the app_info file and see how stock works on this host; http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6796475.
It works perfectly fine. Went zooming right on by 20%, http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3405606679.
No driver restarts here with Windows 8.1 32bit.


WU true angle range is : 2.711553

The original problem (17 Jun 2013) didn't happen on VHAR tasks
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72035&postid=1384767#1384767
1335) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC add-on -SETIspirit v2.0.0- released (Message 1482186)
Posted 27 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
1) You can show e.g. 8 slots and switch to the next 8 after user selectable period (e.g. 5 sec by default)

2) Button to show another window [slots] with much more (user selectable?), e.g. 64 slots
1336) Questions and Answers : Windows : Screen Saver Question.... (Message 1481248)
Posted 24 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

So, before you installed BOINC, which was the screensaver that was started by button on the keyboard?
Do you manually choose some .scr file to be started by this button?

The file that have to be started to run the BOINC screensaver is this:
C:\WINDOWS\boinc.scr

Mind that screensaver is only pretty picture, it is not needed for the calculations.


But probably you mean something completely different?
You may want to change:
"Suspend work while computer is in use?"

... found in your Computing preferences

1337) Questions and Answers : Windows : Problem with Screensaver (Message 1481247)
Posted 24 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This is different problem.
You are using Intel HD Graphics - there are many threads here about this, e.g.:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69101
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71007
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73010
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72841

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=8856
1338) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD driver failed and recovered (Message 1481231)
Posted 24 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I don't remember will there be a problem to downgrade BOINC to version 7.0.28 from BOINC 7.2.39

You'd end up on the wrong side of the EXIT_TIME_LIMIT_EXCEEDED error on GPU work barrier - which wouldn't be a problem going down, but would need care and attention when coming back up.

As I understand this:
Since he is a stock applications user it will be no problem to go back/forth between 7.0.28 <-> 7.2.39 of BOINC versions?

I don't remember were any 'Recommended version' of BOINC between 7.0.28 and 7.0.64
Also don't know when BOINC API changed and become a problem for Windows 8 + ATI AMD drivers + ATI GPU apps
1339) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD driver failed and recovered (Message 1481216)
Posted 24 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You can read this (rather LONG) thread with the same problem:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72035

The 'solution' is posted here (downgrade BOINC to version 7.0.28):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72035&postid=1385824#1385824

BOINC 7.0.64 already had the problem so it seems this continues on BOINC 7.2.39
I think it was something in BOINC API change (the way BOINC communicates with applications)

All BOINC Versions (Ctrl+F for 7.0.28):
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/?C=M;O=A

I don't remember will there be a problem to downgrade BOINC to version 7.0.28 from BOINC 7.2.39
1340) Message boards : Number crunching : Seti project not updating (Message 1480771)
Posted 22 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Probably the computer works now on Einstein@Home tasks:
http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/results.php?hostid=7701459&offset=0&show_names=1&state=1&appid=0

If you want to get some SETI@home tasks you may set Einstein@Home to [No New Tasks]
And you may try to increase (by 1-3 days) the "Maintain enough tasks to keep busy for at least":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global
1341) Questions and Answers : Windows : Boinc crashing Network - Win 7 (Message 1480347)
Posted 21 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Check the thread I linked to, BilBg, as the WHQL 2.4.7.29 driver is the cause of all the hangups.

I did (before my previous post)
I only ask the person with the problem if this is the driver he is using now.
I don't say "I recommend this driver"
1342) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU v. CPU - Is the GPU a sleepy fellow or is it the jobsize which is larger for the GPU? (Message 1480342)
Posted 21 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I just realized, the job size of the CUDA55 is many times larger than the job the CPU does!?!? Is this why the GPU job takes much more time or is there some other explanation?
...
Here's a sample of validated job units. Please note the much larger work size of the CUDA55 job.
Is this normal?

Wrong assumption for both Asteroids@home and SETI@home as tasks send to CPU or GPU are the same.

Which number makes you believe "the much larger work size of the CUDA55 job"?
See the credit '480.00' - it is the same.
And how some imaginary 'big CUDA55 task' will validate against the same (but this time somehow 'small') task sent to somebody else's CPU?

Read my post about Asteroids@home CUDA (slow) vs SETI@home CUDA (fast):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73359&postid=1479147#1479147
1343) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC Manager 7.2.39 now available ! (Message 1479673)
Posted 20 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

OK, you are (almost) right (no need to restart BOINC, need to restart tasks):
- tasks which are Running will not change the checkpoint interval
- but if the task is restarted a new init_data.xml is created by BOINC
(I used just 'Snooze' to stop/restart all Running tasks (but this will not work if "Leave tasks in memory while suspended" is checked))
1344) Questions and Answers : Windows : Boinc crashing Network - Win 7 (Message 1479659)
Posted 20 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Atheros L1 Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T Controller


Is this your driver (direct link):
http://www.qca.qualcomm.com/drivers/WIN_L1WinSetup_v2.4.7.29_WHQL.rar

... found on this page:
http://www.qca.qualcomm.com/resources/driverdownloads/

... under "L1 Family Drivers" -> "WIN_L1WinSetup_v2.4.7.29_WHQL"


In WIN_L1WinSetup_v2.4.7.29_WHQL.rar\VistaWin7_64\l160x64.inf there is this description:
Atheros.AtcL001 = "Atheros L1 Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T Controller"
1345) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC Manager 7.2.39 now available ! (Message 1479176)
Posted 19 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The checkpoint interval will be active only for new started tasks.

When the task starts for the first time BOINC allocates slot for it and creates init_data.xml in it (e.g. in <BOINC_Data>\slots\0\).
That is the file from which the app will read the checkpoint interval:
<checkpoint_period>77.000000</checkpoint_period>
<disk_interval>77.000000</disk_interval>
1346) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Global Setting - Default, Work, Home --> Setup unstable (Message 1479162)
Posted 19 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm trying a graphical version and if this don't work I'll try the distro Linux.

Days ago you asked "what is distro?" (for me it seems you still don't know)
"distro" means 'Distribution' or 'kind'/'brand' of Linux

Top Ten Distributions:
http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=major

You'll see "Slackware Linux 14.1" almost at the bottom of page
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=slackware


(and I remind you again: I have NO experience with Linux except about for one month ~10 years ago with KNOPPIX (bootable CD)
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=knoppix
)
1347) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI Radeon X1650se --> Will this card work in BOINC/Ubuntu Linux (GPU)??? (Message 1479147)
Posted 19 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What is the reason for doing all this work, if GPU's are so much "slower" than an ordinary Intel i5 CPU? How fast is a "fast" graphic card" compared to e.g. i5-3470?

You did a test only with Asteroids@home CUDA application - which is slow as you can see by this table:
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/forum_thread.php?id=233&postid=2228#2228

The table is for the first version of the app, now they claim "about 20%" improvement in the current version (which you use now):
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/forum_thread.php?id=233&postid=2446#2446


Try the SETI@home CUDA (Lunatics_x41g_linux64_cuda32.7z) to see the CPU vs GPU difference:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74031&postid=1475186#1475186
1348) Message boards : Number crunching : What did you start with? (Message 1477925)
Posted 16 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
My host 1033899 is what I used all through SETI Classic and came to SETI_BOINC with. In that time period it had 80 MB RAM, I upgraded to 128 MB when SETI@home Enhanced was being tested at SETI Beta.
                                                                   Joe

Did you use an registry 'hack' so your CPU type is shown as "200 MHz. Pentium MMX OverDrive"?

I think 'old' BOINC versions get this info from (on XP, the place may be different on Windows 95):
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DESCRIPTION\System\CentralProcessor\0]

... and 'new' BOINC versions - from CPUID
1349) Message boards : Number crunching : What did you start with? (Message 1477921)
Posted 16 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I started with a dual Celeron machine. It was an overclocked dual processor machine, Asus BP6(?) motherboard with dual Celeron 300s running at 450.

It must have been an ABIT BP6
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABIT_BP6
1350) Questions and Answers : Windows : I've lost my credits even if maintain the same email account (Message 1477887)
Posted 16 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... even if I have typed the usual email/pwd

Don't type - copy/paste (e.g. from the web-page of your email account)

You need to [Remove] project SETI@home
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Advanced_view#The_Projects_tab

... and Add it again (Tools -> Add project or account manager)
BOINC Manager Menu

(select 'Yes, existing user')

The only way you now have another (second) account is: you used different (miss-typed) email address
1351) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Intel i5 processors/MSI GeForce GT610 2Gb/Linux 12.04.2 - Needs help installing linux driver (Message 1477881)
Posted 16 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I can't see all of my posts/threads! Can you help me find out, how to make all of my questions appear here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_index.php
Notification I think it's called in English. Only some of my questions appear in this list, and it's the only way I know how to see when someone answers a question of mine.

You mean the thread names/links shown bellow the 'Subscribed threads'?
As the name of the list suggests:
- you need to use the [Subscribe] button at the top of thread (possible with any thread, not only yours)
1352) Questions and Answers : Getting started : unknown application astropulse_v6 (Message 1477880)
Posted 16 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I know there's a help file on app_config.xml somewhere, if I can just remember where it was.

Here:
app_config.xml

Most people use the file to run more than one task per GPU (<gpu_usage>.5</gpu_usage> for 2 tasks)
and/or to auto-free a CPU core when some type of GPU task is running (<cpu_usage>1.0</cpu_usage>)
1353) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Androit (Message 1477879)
Posted 16 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You may try NativeBOINC
http://nativeboinc.org/site/uncat/start

It have application for SETI@home
http://nativeboinc.org/site/host_stats#project=seti

Some computers using NativeBOINC and completing tasks for SETI@home
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7031395
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7076142
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7203815
1354) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Linux boinc - possibility to get the same info, as in mgr ? (Message 1476603)
Posted 13 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Obviously you have GUI on one computer with BOINC Manager running.
And probably you have another computer without GUI (text mode only)?
Why don't you use the ability of BOINC Manager to control BOINC running on other computer over LAN?
Or use BoincTasks
1355) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Ubuntu Server 12.04 - Nvidia GeForce 610 inst. OK, BUT lm-sensors affected! No temp for GPU anymore (Message 1476068)
Posted 12 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You have one Windows computer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7104439

If it is on the same LAN as your Linux computers, please make your life easier by installing (on Windows):
BoincTasks
http://www.efmer.eu/boinc/boinc_tasks/

"The program should run on Windows 2003 / Windows XP / Windows Vista / Windows 7 / Windows 8 as well as on Linux and Mac, with Wine."

Then use BoincTasks to monitor your other Linux computers
(it gives much more info than boinccmd)
1356) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Linux boinc - possibility to get the same info, as in mgr ? (Message 1476050)
Posted 12 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
i want done and estimated time in hours, not seconds ... ...and swap and working set size also be better give in megabytes, not bytes.

And what stops you to make this conversion in the script you mention to use?

If you post (task part of) the output from:
boinccmd --get_simple_gui_info
boinccmd --get_tasks

... it will be more clear what you see than to describe this with own words.
1357) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Linux boinc - possibility to get the same info, as in mgr ? (Message 1476041)
Posted 12 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
From BOINC 6.6.38 run on Win 2000, AMD K6-2+ 524MHz




Part of:
boinccmd.exe --get_simple_gui_info

======== Results ========
1) -----------
name: 17oc13ad.6825.5895.438086664197.12.80.vlar_1
WU name: 17oc13ad.6825.5895.438086664197.12.80.vlar
project URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/
report deadline: Mon Mar 03 20:58:13 2014
ready to report: no
got server ack: no
final CPU time: 432674.900000
state: 2
scheduler state: 2
exit_status: 0
signal: 0
suspended via GUI: no
active_task_state: 1
stderr_out:
app version num: 700
checkpoint CPU time: 718209.500000
current CPU time: 718300.800000
fraction done: 0.945247
swap size: 72810496.000000
working set size: 63844352.000000
estimated CPU time remaining: 44087.451219
supports graphics: no


What more info do you want?

I don't know (not implemented in old BOINC versions) what info you can get by:
boinccmd.exe --get_tasks
1358) Questions and Answers : Windows : Account not updating (Message 1475480)
Posted 11 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I mean to follow my links 'to the end' (2 links deep) to see the info by me "(and at the moment the files are from 06-Feb-2014)" and the link:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/stats/

1359) Questions and Answers : Web site : My Seti Stats Not Updated (Message 1475476)
Posted 11 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The stats under "Computing and credit" are always the most current - they update seconds after task is validated.
(the same numbers are shown to the left of your posts)

I'm not sure how the numbers in 'Projects in which you are participating' are populated but they are always behind (maybe update once a day, or when the stat files are exported?), probably for performance reasons (to reduce load on the database)
1360) Questions and Answers : Web site : Astropulse work units have disappeared from my stats (Message 1475470)
Posted 11 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Validated tasks are purged from BOINC database ~24 h later.
Else the database will be tooooo big (exabytes?) to keep >10 years of tasks info.
Credit is what remains for you and the result is entered in SETI@home/Astropulse science database.

Info about the databases used (see 'Glossary' for description):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html
1361) Questions and Answers : Windows : Account not updating (Message 1475342)
Posted 10 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If you follow my link you'll know this time SETI@home server/lab is the cause.
Also noted in 'Panic Mode On (86) Server Problems' and other threads in Number Crunching
1362) Questions and Answers : Windows : Account not updating (Message 1475237)
Posted 10 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74035
1363) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Install graphic card in Ubuntu Server 12.04 - BOINC/GPU (Message 1475186)
Posted 10 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I see you have now cuda55 tasks on Asteroids@home so probably CUDA is OK now on this computer
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/results.php?hostid=74516&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1&appid=

Asteroids@home CUDA app is not too much faster (compared to the CPU app) - for your combination of CPU and GPU maybe the CPU tasks will be faster.


SETI CUDA apps are better optimized.

There is no stock SETI@home v7 Linux CUDA app for now:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

You can get version for manual 'install'
Lunatics_x41g_linux64_cuda32.7z
http://www.arkayn.us/forum/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=cat5;dlsort=id;desc;p=10

1364) Questions and Answers : Windows : NOT connected to a client (Message 1475169)
Posted 10 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You use some special Firewall?
You want BOINC to somehow hack your Firewall settings?
(in fact there is no question in your post so probably you don't want any more info)
1365) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Update old stats? (Message 1475144)
Posted 10 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Read my answer here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74036&postid=1475138#1475138
1366) Questions and Answers : Web site : My Seti Stats Not Updated (Message 1475138)
Posted 10 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

When you say "the overall stats" you may think it's clear where you look but it's not
(If in program - which? If on web-page - give link)

I think you look at some external 'stat' site.
All of those sites get the SETI 'export' files from here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/stats/

(and at the moment the files are from 06-Feb-2014)
1367) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Intel i5 processors/MSI GeForce GT610 2Gb/Linux 12.04.2 - Needs help installing linux driver (Message 1475127)
Posted 10 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
After installing BOINC, is there anything you do, to "turn on/start" the use of GPU in your version of OS/BOINC?

Not really
On Windows you just install standard video driver from NVIDIA or ATI (the driver package contains CUDA and/or OpenCL 'modules'/runtimes)
and that makes BOINC recognize the GPU

As I already noted - I don't use Linux (so can't check your commands)

You missed this (posted in your other thread):
To get more tech answers from more people post in Number Crunching

There are several Linux gurus that read and post in Number Crunching
Start there new thread and give links to this thread.
(or ask moderator to move posts from here to the new thread (by the small 'red-X' square under the post))
(or ask moderator (the same way) to move this entire thread to Number Crunching)
1368) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI Radeon X1650se --> Will this card work in BOINC/Ubuntu Linux (GPU)??? (Message 1475126)
Posted 10 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Look here. The new Linux Boinc Server is "Wellington":
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/hosts_user.php?sort=rpc_time&rev=0&show_all=0&userid=2948

Nobody except you can see the Computers names - we see only ID, e.g. ID: 74516 (hostid=74516)
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/show_host_detail.php?hostid=74516

1369) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Intel i5 processors/MSI GeForce GT610 2Gb/Linux 12.04.2 - Needs help installing linux driver (Message 1474208)
Posted 8 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Using just this:
https://www.google.com/#q=installing+cuda+ubuntu

... I found:
http://sn0v.wordpress.com/2012/05/11/installing-cuda-on-ubuntu-12-04/
http://askubuntu.com/questions/338907/how-to-install-cuda-5-5-under-ubuntu-12-04-lts-64-bit
http://www.r-tutor.com/gpu-computing/cuda-installation/cuda5.5-ubuntu
...

(I don't use Linux)
1370) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI Radeon X1650se --> Will this card work in BOINC/Ubuntu Linux (GPU)??? (Message 1474199)
Posted 8 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
From your earlier post:
" I'm searching for the right GPU/card to run BOINC along with my i7 CPU's so that I can do some serious crunching ;)"

... so you say nothing about need for "low profile", only desire for "serious crunching" (and GeForce GT 610 is the lowest possible variant of today NVIDIA GPUs)

***

You now have:
http://www.msi.com/product/vga/N610GT-MD1GD3H-LP.html#/?div=Specification

GeForce GT 610 Specifications:
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt-610/specifications

Maximum GPU Temperature (in C) 102 °C

So if you experiment with high load on that GPU (without any mod of the heatsink)
and you get 70-80 °C it is safe and you don't need mod of the heatsink

*****

Much better choice (ASUS GeForce GT 640 Low Profile 1 GB GDDR5):
https://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/GT6401GD5L/

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt640/specifications

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121771

***

To get more tech answers from more people post in Number Crunching
1371) Message boards : Number crunching : Sudden mass abandoning (Message 1474165)
Posted 8 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Ah, I see, looks as if a packet got stuck, and finally arrived after another request had been made....

Yes, this was/is the hypothesis for a long time (year?).

The puzzle is how it's possible for a set of packets (sched_request_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml can't fit in one packet (MTU ~1500 bytes))
to live/hide somewhere in the Internet for so long time (minutes) ...
1372) Questions and Answers : Preferences : (cuda 50) (Message 1473665)
Posted 7 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:

It's not clear for me what do you want to know.

What is CUDA?
What is CUDA version?
Why applications/tasks for different CUDA versions are sent?

ReadMe_x41zc.txt (from the apps developer):
https://setisvn.ssl.berkeley.edu/trac/browser/branches/sah_v7_opt/Xbranch/docs/README_x41zc.txt

1373) Message boards : Number crunching : Will BOINC/ SETI run on a Beowulf Cluster ? (Message 1471442)
Posted 1 Feb 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You may look at this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LinuxPMI
1374) Message boards : Number crunching : Will BOINC/ SETI run on a Beowulf Cluster ? (Message 1470701)
Posted 30 Jan 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I normally avoid this board, because the replies to questions are often more insulting that informative.

To get informative replies you need to be very specific in your questions.
You didn't say explicitly "I am building a cluster for other purpose" in your first post.


My post said I was founder of a BOINC team and included my BOINCstats signature, so I didn't need to be told about BOINCstats.

Wrong - Nobody told you about BOINCstats
You were told about BoincTasks


“Kinda pointless”
1375) Message boards : Number crunching : Type Easy, Type Faster (Popchrom add-on + my Abbreviations) (Message 1469416)
Posted 27 Jan 2014 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If anyone cares - I posted new version of abbreviations at the same place:
http://pastebin.com/u/BilBg
http://pastebin.com/kFBJE703

Suggestions for additions/corrections are welcome...
1376) Message boards : Number crunching : Type Easy, Type Faster (Popchrom add-on + my Abbreviations) (Message 1458753)
Posted 30 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Popchrom let you type a few letters, hit the hot-key and get long word/expression.

Popchrom add-on/extension (ADD it to your browser):
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/popchrom/iinhokidgfoomcighckbjmlcndbjmomp

For:
Google Chrome / SRWare Iron / probably also for Other browsers based on Chromium
(I tested/use it on SRWare Iron 27.0.1500.0)

Read about Popchrom (if you wish):
http://www.ilovefreesoftware.com/05/windows/internet/plugins/type-faster-using-text-abbreviations-popchrom.html
https://www.google.com/#q=Popchrom


Get my Abbreviations:
http://pastebin.com/kFBJE703
(use DOWNLOAD link at the top-left to save as popchrom_bilbg.txt)

Open Popchrom - Options (e.g. click the icon in address/URL line)
Drag and Drop popchrom_bilbg.txt over the orange word/tab [Text] to Import it
(only the small dotted rectangle around word Text works)


Popchrom - Options:
([Download] button is in fact Export button - to save your abbreviations as .txt file)




My Settings:
! You need to use Ctrl+S to Save the Settings!
I changed the hot-key from the default Ctrl+[Space] to ` (backquote/backtick)





Examples of use:
(bold denotes words where you have to hit the hot-key to expand the abbreviations):

You type:
Count can be edited in ai in your sd
Create ccl with no and put it in dd
On your aa g you can run s v7 and ap op app

Put b on nnt
Post first 40-50 lines of mes from ell
With oc my nn g have te 77 deg

cc ai ac cp lp (text)
ccl ail acl cpl lpl (links)

... and get:
Count can be edited in app_info.xml in your SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)
Create cc_config.xml with Notepad and put it in BOINC Data directory
On your ATI AMD GPU you can run SETI@home v7 and AstroPulse OpenCL applications

Put BOINC on No New Tasks
Post first 40-50 lines of Messages from Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E)
With Overclock my NVIDIA GPU have temperature 77 °C

cc_config.xml app_info.xml app_config.xml Computing preferences Local preferences (text)
cc_config.xml app_info.xml app_config.xml Computing preferences Local preferences (links)


*****

For Firefox there is similar add-on Text Complete
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/text-complete/

It saves the abbreviations in txcpl.xml file which is in:
%APPDATA%\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\<some-numbers>.default\

The file have different format and I didn't find an easy way to convert from Popchrom to 'Text Complete' format:
(If someone of you can make some convert script it will be good)

<textcomplete><txt shortcut="a+"><![CDATA[Alt+]]></txt><txt shortcut="aa"><![CDATA[ATI AMD]]></txt><txt shortcut="ac"><![CDATA[app_config.xml]]></txt></textcomplete>
1377) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Merging accounts (Message 1458665)
Posted 30 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Regardless I still think it's rather archaic that someone's dusty old email address is the ONLY way to get account access. Maybe that's why the SETI project hasn't found any little green men yet - they're too restrictive and anal retentive in how they let the green men answer back. Lol.

LOL LOL ...

You stay in the street and yell:
"This is MY house, I know the street address, you HAVE to let me in!"

Police:
"Do you have a KEY to this house?
Do you have an ID-card that shows you live here?
Do you have a spare key in your neighbor?
... No to all? Then you MAY be a robber!"


Since this is BOINC account:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=705557

... no merge is allowed to avoid cheat (e.g. steal of accounts by direct physical access to your "friends'" computers)

How can you PROOF that you own this SETI@home/BOINC account (so you can use it INSTEAD of this you post with)?
You OF COURSE can't use userid which is just like street address (visible to anyone)

For server to let you in this account you have "only" 3 Options:

1) 'a KEY' analogy:
email + Password
(Password for SETI@home account, not for email box)

2) 'an ID-card' analogy:
Retrieve one of these computers:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?sort=rpc_time&rev=0&show_all=1&userid=705557

(Oh, you don't have them anymore? Mind this story: http://money.cnn.com/2013/11/29/news/bitcoin-haul-landfill/)

Search the HDDs (including 'hidden' folders) for file:
account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml

If you succeed - say here 'I found the file' and instructions to use it will follow ...
(you need 'the file' from old HDD, not the computer you use now)


3) 'spare key' analogy:
Use 'Forget Password' link
(if you have working email address - why use email from ISP, it will vanish if you change ISP, Most FREE email services last much longer >10 years)
1378) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Smartphone/Android client (Message 1458663)
Posted 30 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Will the Android beta ever be connected to my S@H account?

Explain "connected"
(short answer is NO (but I don't know the exact question you try to ask))
1379) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Anonymous Platform (ATI- GPU) ??? (Message 1457676)
Posted 26 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
'Anonymous platform' is the term used when BOINC detects presence of app_info.xml

Lunatics install do not ask anything that resembles "public/private" choice
1380) Questions and Answers : Windows : Second computer not getting any work. (Message 1457672)
Posted 26 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Can you possibly first explain why (the reason) you Aborted so many tasks on your "main computer"?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7144347&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=

Do you still don't like "techie" answers?
(the JDWhale's post from a few years ago looks perfectly good, informative, friendly and easy to understand but it seems to me you didn't like it)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=48622&postid=797532#797532


For the "second computer" we'll need the first 50-60 lines from the Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E)
1381) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Astropulse not using GPU anymore (Message 1457322)
Posted 25 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I think your GPU (ATI Radeon HD 4350/4550 (R710)) is not capable to run SETI@home v7 tasks (I think it have 'Max work group size: 128' and 256 is needed)

But (as already explained) it's easy to fill your computer with 100 GPU OpenCL AstroPulse tasks with just right Preferences.
AstroPulse tasks are available 1-2 days per ~week, 100 GPU OpenCL AstroPulse tasks are enough for my GPU to have work for 5-7 days.
(I do AstroPulse only on GPU (AMD ATI Radeon HD 6570), on CPU - only SETI@home v7
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4832843
)

Notes:
All users that know how to do it invested time to learn how to do it.
This is not cheat.
This have nothing to do with "multi PC" users (work of one PC do not affect in any way the other PCs of the same user, e.g. no more or less tasks sent to 1 PC just because it belongs to a "multi PC" user)
Low Credit of SETI@home v7 tasks is because of bad implementation of 'CreditNew'


My Settings:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

SETI@home Enhanced: no
SETI@home v7: no
AstroPulse v6: yes
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? yes


http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global

Maintain enough tasks to keep busy for at least 7 days
... and up to an additional 0.01 days


Note also:
At the moment many stock ('normal') users may be hit by this problem:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73586

I am not affected because any of these:
- I run older BOINC
- I run optimized applications (= not-stock) using app_info.xml with <plan_class>ati_opencl_100</plan_class>

Read the last post by Claggy:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73525&postid=1456134#1456134

1382) Message boards : Number crunching : SetiPerformance 1.8 + Added apps from Lunatics v0.41 (Message 1455560)
Posted 19 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

REMINDER to all users of SetiPerformance

As I already noted in the original thread:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69136&postid=1300787#1300787

"the decisions for "The best average time found" are really weird
(I'm confident there is a bug in that code)

Better to do the decision by yourself ..."

So DON'T pay attention to 'The best average time found' - just look at 'average time on device' and compare by yourself
(the bug is still there, probably the last test is not taken into account)


Starting automatic test: (SetiPerformance Test4Test (Progress, Random times))
16 December 2013 - 19:50:06 Start, devices: 1, device count: 1 (1.00)
16 December 2013 - 19:50:06 Set: SetiPerformance Test4Test (Progress, Random times) , Exe: SetiPerformance_Test.exe , Parameters:
16 December 2013 - 19:50:48 Runtime: Device: 0, count: 0, 41 seconds
16 December 2013 - 19:50:48 Device: 0, Count: 0, finished.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- Results:
Device: 0, device count: 1, average time / count: 41, average time on device: 41 Seconds (0 Minutes, 41 Seconds)
Next :---------------------------------------------------------------------------
16 December 2013 - 19:50:51 Start, devices: 1, device count: 2 (0.50)
16 December 2013 - 19:50:51 Set: SetiPerformance Test4Test (Progress, Random times) , Exe: SetiPerformance_Test.exe , Parameters:
16 December 2013 - 19:51:04 Runtime: Device: 0, count: 0, 12 seconds
16 December 2013 - 19:51:04 Device: 0, Count: 0, finished.
16 December 2013 - 19:51:06 Runtime: Device: 0, count: 1, 14 seconds
16 December 2013 - 19:51:06 Device: 0, Count: 1, finished.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- Results:
Device: 0, device count: 2, average time / count: 13, average time on device: 6 Seconds (0 Minutes, 6 Seconds)
>> The best average time found: 41 Seconds (0 Minutes, 41 Seconds), with count: 1.00 (1)



Starting automatic test: (SetiPerformance Test4Test (Progress, Random times))
18 December 2013 - 06:27:16 Start, devices: 1, device count: 1 (1.00)
18 December 2013 - 06:27:16 Set: SetiPerformance Test4Test (Progress, Random times) , Exe: SetiPerformance_Test.exe , Parameters:
18 December 2013 - 06:27:58 Runtime: Device: 0, count: 0, 41 seconds
18 December 2013 - 06:27:58 Device: 0, Count: 0, finished.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- Results:
Device: 0, device count: 1, average time / count: 41, average time on device: 41 Seconds (0 Minutes, 41 Seconds)
Next :---------------------------------------------------------------------------
18 December 2013 - 06:28:02 Start, devices: 1, device count: 2 (0.50)
18 December 2013 - 06:28:02 Set: SetiPerformance Test4Test (Progress, Random times) , Exe: SetiPerformance_Test.exe , Parameters:
18 December 2013 - 06:28:35 Runtime: Device: 0, count: 1, 32 seconds
18 December 2013 - 06:28:35 Device: 0, Count: 1, finished.
18 December 2013 - 06:28:39 Runtime: Device: 0, count: 0, 36 seconds
18 December 2013 - 06:28:39 Device: 0, Count: 0, finished.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- Results:
Device: 0, device count: 2, average time / count: 34, average time on device: 17 Seconds (0 Minutes, 17 Seconds)
Next :---------------------------------------------------------------------------
18 December 2013 - 06:28:42 Start, devices: 1, device count: 3 (0.33)
18 December 2013 - 06:28:42 Set: SetiPerformance Test4Test (Progress, Random times) , Exe: SetiPerformance_Test.exe , Parameters:
18 December 2013 - 06:28:48 Runtime: Device: 0, count: 2, 5 seconds
18 December 2013 - 06:28:48 Device: 0, Count: 2, finished.
18 December 2013 - 06:28:52 Runtime: Device: 0, count: 1, 9 seconds
18 December 2013 - 06:28:52 Device: 0, Count: 1, finished.
18 December 2013 - 06:28:54 Runtime: Device: 0, count: 0, 11 seconds
18 December 2013 - 06:28:54 Device: 0, Count: 0, finished.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- Results:
Device: 0, device count: 3, average time / count: 8, average time on device: 2 Seconds (0 Minutes, 2 Seconds)
>> The best average time found: 17 Seconds (0 Minutes, 17 Seconds), with count: 0.50 (2)

1383) Message boards : Number crunching : SetiPerformance 1.8 + Added apps from Lunatics v0.41 (Message 1455555)
Posted 19 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
No, it seems apps weren`t found at all or write protected.
I had to manually copy the apps from my Lunatics folder into OpenCL folder.
Same with the CPU app.

Very strange ...
Is this on this computer?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5735690

So you uncompressed the .7z file (I use context/right-click menu - both WinRAR and 7-Zip work)
This creates the 'zip' directory (I did this in different partitions/folders and every time SetiPerformance works)
Then you go to the (uncompressed) ...\zip\OpenCL\ directory and see total of 15 files of which 4 .exe files (with non-zero length)

You start SetiPerformance64.exe (I can test only with SetiPerformance.exe, I don't know if SetiPerformance.exe will work OK on 'Windows 7 Ultimate x64')
You try some OpenCL ATI test and get "ERROR: Device: %d, Count: %d, program failed to start."

Then you copy the same 4 .exe files "from your own sources into OpenCL and CPU folder" overwriting the .exe files which are already there.
(did you compare 'your' and 'my' .exe files before the copy to see if they are identical?)

And after this copy/overwrite SetiPerformance64 works?

1384) Questions and Answers : Windows : Why am in not getting any credits? (Message 1455534)
Posted 19 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you did not intentionally/manually [Remove]/Add the SETI@home project (which will make all tasks you still have in the computer show 'Abandoned')
then 'Abandoned' status may happen if you have bad network (or network was bad on 14 Dec 2013):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72825

Abandoned tasks - Ongoing issue:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70946

1385) Questions and Answers : Windows : Whats happened to Bionc All Project Stats.com (Message 1455520)
Posted 19 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

It seems allprojectstats.com lost SETI@home stats (do not include them at all).
The external stats sites have to get info for SETI@home from here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/stats/


Compare me on boincstats.com (Credit 4,659,004.44):
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/7857e9fc356c31d5b09ecae27eb45005

'projectList' show SETI@home:
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/56976/projectList


... and on allprojectstats.com (Credit 311,418.80)
http://www.allprojectstats.com/showuser.php?id=7857e9fc356c31d5b09ecae27eb45005

Below 'Recent milestones' you will not see SETI@home
Down the page (graphs and table) you can see the December 16, 2013 is the last correct date.
On December 17, 2013 the SETI@home stats are lost.

1386) Questions and Answers : Web site : Accessing SETI at home classic account (Message 1455507)
Posted 19 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I do not recall the email address that I used originally. Suggestions?

You do not recall ANY of your old email addresses you used (for any purpose) ~1999
or you do not recall the EXACT email address you used for SETI@home Classic?

If you recall SOME of your old email addresses you need just try all of them and see if they work:
Claim your SETI@home Classic workunits:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php

1387) Message boards : Number crunching : SetiPerformance 1.8 + Added apps from Lunatics v0.41 (Message 1454154)
Posted 15 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do you mean manually "recopy the apps" (while SetiPerformance is started?) from
...\zip\OpenCL\
to
%APPDATA%\eFMer\SetiPerformance\slot0\

Do you have some 'strange' (German) letters in the directory paths?
(the first directory where the files are extracted is by your choice,
the problem is the second directory is always in %APPDATA% and no Option to change it
)

Some other reason you can think of that can prevent SetiPerformance to copy files?


app couldn`t start.

String "couldn" is not in SetiPerformance.exe (ASCII and Unicode search)
The only similar Message I can find in SetiPerformance.exe is:
"ERROR: Device: %d, Count: %d, program failed to start."

1388) Message boards : Number crunching : SetiPerformance 1.8 + Added apps from Lunatics v0.41 (Message 1454125)
Posted 15 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Didn`t work.

What didn`t work?
CUDA app? (which)
Error message?

1389) Message boards : Number crunching : SetiPerformance 1.8 + Added apps from Lunatics v0.41 (Message 1454113)
Posted 15 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

OK, shy people, no one want to admit 'guru' status ;)

There were some Downloads
So, please, everybody that did tests (or just looked at the files) - share your findings/opinions...

Does it work, especially on NVIDIA CUDA 23...50 (MultiBeam) and NVIDIA OpenCL (AstroPulse)?
Do you think that just one 'CUDA' directory for all the CUDA applications (111 MB) causes too much overhead at startup?
(for 4 tasks (count 0.25) this means copy/write of 444 MB to disk)

Do you think the WU I used (work_unit.sah == PG0444_v7.wu) is a good choice?
Is it good I moved some of the .wu files out of 'workunits' directory (to 'workunits_OFF' directory)?

1390) Message boards : Number crunching : Error while computing (Message 1454104)
Posted 15 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
One of the things I find really puzzling is how the failure mode behaves. Everything runs fine for a day or two, but as soon as on WU crashes, it just goes through every CPU WU I have, all crashing in seconds, until thry're gone. If I allow BOINC to fetch more WU, they will crash as well. After a reboot, everything is fine.

My initial suspicion was that some part of RAM is not good.
So I suggested memtest86 and Linpack (which test both CPU and RAM)

My hypothesis is - you have some program with memory leak, after a few days the free portion of RAM is in the bad spot/cells
(or OS just decides to use that part of RAM)

Try to fill the memory to 50-70% (e.g. by starting several browsers)
Then use IntelBurnTest to test the remaining 1-1.5 GB with 10-20 tests

1391) Message boards : Number crunching : Error while computing (Message 1453330)
Posted 12 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Did you try Linpack? (careful - it heats!)

LinX have better looking GUI
https://github.com/sanekgusev/LinX-old
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?201670-LinX-A-simple-Linpack-interface

IntelBurnTest have Linpack patched to run on AMD CPUs
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?197835-IntelBurnTest-The-new-stress-testing-program
http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/intelburntest.html

If LinX package you found do not have Linpack patched to run on AMD
you can copy Linpack files from IntelBurnTest and rename them to match what LinX expects.

1392) Message boards : Number crunching : Error while computing (Message 1453325)
Posted 12 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Did you already check the RAM?

http://www.memtest.org/

http://www.memtest86.com/

1393) Message boards : Number crunching : No AP opencl_ati_100 since 26 Nov (Message 1453291)
Posted 12 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
ati_opencl_100 are AP v6 for both S@H and S@H Beta stock app.
opencl_ati_cat132 are MB v7 for both S@H and S@H Beta stock app.

Yes
Without looking at 'Applications' page I did it wrong

I wanted to say:
(opencl_ati_sah) == (opencl_ati_cat132) {same app, label depends on Catalyst version}
(ati_opencl_100) == (opencl_ati_100) (same app, label depends on BOINC version)

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

(I use app_info.xml so for me as for many others here how the tasks are labeled doesn't matter.
So better check which .exe files are in fact in SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)
and which Processes run in Windows Task Manager (or Process Explorer, ...)
)

1394) Message boards : Number crunching : No AP opencl_ati_100 since 26 Nov (Message 1453255)
Posted 12 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

AFAIK opencl_ati_100 and opencl_ati_cat132 is the same application.

Tasks marked 'opencl_ati_100' are sent to Catalyst <13.1
Tasks marked 'opencl_ati_cat132' are sent to Catalyst >13.1
No tasks are sent to Catalyst 13.1 (broken OpenCL compiler)

1395) Message boards : Number crunching : What, exactly, does APR measure, and is it meaningful? (Message 1453246)
Posted 12 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
An alternative approach is to do offline testing. The Optimize your GPU. Find the value the easy way. thread discusses a tool Fred put together to aid that, but as supplied it contained applications for Sah Enhanced and Fred's downloads are temporarily unavailable anyway. BilBg's extended version in post 1300787 may be available, but it too would need v7 applications and test WUs added. At Lunatics there are test WUs and simpler test packages which don't attempt to check performance with multiple tasks simultaneously.
                                                                  Joe

You made me update the package ;)

SetiPerformance 1.8 + Added apps from Lunatics v0.41
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73524

1396) Message boards : Number crunching : SetiPerformance 1.8 + Added apps from Lunatics v0.41 (Message 1453245)
Posted 12 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I hope the authors of programs/applications do not mind that I did this 'tweaked' package.


To know what it's all about - read the original author's thread:
Optimize your GPU. Find the value the easy way:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69136&sort_style=6&start=0

Original Seti Performance page:
http://efmer.com/forum/index.php?topic=974.0

***

The package bellow is SetiPerformance 1.8
+ Added by me 8 apps from Lunatics_Win32_v0.41_setup.exe
(+ 2 more my 'joke apps' )

Download:
SetiPerformance_32_64_1_8__BilBg-Add_Lunatics_v041.7z (28 MB):
http://www16.zippyshare.com/v/24698066/file.html

MD5
b6c026249b7e8f6219ffa53b83cb6447 *SetiPerformance_32_64_1_8__BilBg-Add_Lunatics_v041.7z


Due to lack of NVIDIA CUDA GPU I tested only the 3 ATI GPU OpenCL applications.
Please, gurus here - get and proofread/check/test the package.





http://prikachi.com/images/201/6844201l.png


Mirror2 (to use if the link at ZippyShare do not work):
http://mail.dir.bg/~bil/SetiPerformance_32_64_1_8__BilBg-Add_Lunatics_v041.7z

I don't mind (if authors agree) if you also put the file on other sites
but don't use sites that are overly annoying (waiting counters, ad-ware Download Managers or similar annoyances)


***

Some necessary and stupid notes:
The 'stupid' Antiviruses flag red:

Lunatics_Win32_v0.41_setup.exe (if you have Antivirus that show red here you may/will have problems running SETI@home in general)
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/9264c7e03f57ec5c5295fbd34d892b5608af2924a10dde40afea5f8402b18ee5/analysis/

This package:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/2400553ca70720d47de5dbbdf34e9a1180b05f064b8d41b9d09b2d6858f8c19c/analysis/

... have more 'stupid-red' because contains (in 'SetiPerformance_Test' sub-directory) also some files from/generated-by AutoHotkey
(which are UPX compressed, my sources available in the .ahk files):
http://www.autohotkey.com/
https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/autohotkey.com


I use ESET-NOD32, if you trust Comodo, TrendMicro-HouseCall, ... do as you wish (ToUse-or-notToUse--that's-the-Question ;) )
I hope gurus will share their opinion also on that (False-positive) matter.

1397) Questions and Answers : Windows : AstroPulse (Message 1453215)
Posted 12 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I do have two computers.. The setting on the page is not for one but for all the computers?
I just need the setting for one pc.

At the bottom of page there are:
"Add separate preferences for XXXXX"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

Add one of them (e.g. 'work')

You also need Setting (at 'preferences for work'):
"If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? no"

Then at the bottom of computer page select Location: 'work' [Update]:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7048066

1398) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU No Longer Receiving Work. (Message 1453128)
Posted 12 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Which do you call "older GPU"? The Radeon HD 7850/7870 ??
Where did you get the driver? Windows update (= wrong)?

Edit:
Why you don't say explicitly you use Linux?
Less people are familiar with Linux (I am not) so make sure OpenCL part of the driver is present in the driver package you used (and you installed/checked the OpenCL part).
And find a Linux tool (clinfo ?) that can check for the presence of OpenCL

1399) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU No Longer Receiving Work. (Message 1451860)
Posted 9 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Check that you have everything here set to 'yes' (CPU GPU applications):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project


12/8/2013 9:34:37 AM | | Reading preferences override file

The line above means you use 'Local preferences'
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Local_preferences#Network_usage

Set:
Minimum work buffer 3 days
Max additional work buffer 0.01 days





Edit:

Oh!
I now see that you use bad ATI Driver:
12/8/2013 9:34:37 AM | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 6350/6450/7450/7470 series (Caicos) (driver version 1084.4 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1084.4), 1024MB, 991MB available, 400 GFLOPS peak)

... and SETI@home intentionally do not send apps to it because it have broken OpenCL compiler

You use Catalyst 13.1 (OCL 10.0.1084.4):
http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet.htm

(if it was older (11.12 ... 12.10) or newer ( > 13.1) it would be OK)

1400) Questions and Answers : Web site : Statistics, unreasonable stats? (Message 1451846)
Posted 9 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

He used many computers with many NVIDIA GPUs:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?sort=rpc_time&rev=0&show_all=1&userid=9898535

Compare to your computers:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?sort=rpc_time&rev=0&show_all=1&userid=47806

(and it is not "over 4.8 million data sets" but 'Total credit 4,829,976')


Look at this computer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5948046

For 2.5 years it (just credit for one computer) accumulated 'Total credit 131,472,595'

1401) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU No Longer Receiving Work. (Message 1451392)
Posted 8 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do your other projects use the GPU?
You omitted relevant parts of Event Log, better post 40-50 lines.

1402) Message boards : Number crunching : New GFORCE GTX 780 (Message 1451101)
Posted 7 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The GeForce GTX 560 runs cuda42 app:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6319812&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=11

Your GeForce GTX 780 is still on cuda32 app:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7161830&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=11

BOINC tests all compatible cudaXX apps at least with 10 tasks to see which is faster on the given hardware/OS/driver/...
(you already know the link to see the available stock 'Applications' - there you can see several cudaXX apps)

1403) Message boards : Number crunching : AstroPulse for Intel GPUs, open beta2 (Message 1451072)
Posted 7 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you are in a playful mood ;) you can play a little with PerfMonitor 2
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/perfmonitor2.html

Even if you don't find the reason of this slowdown effect it's interesting to play with PerfMonitor

For my older CPU (AMD Athlon II X3 455) I (have to) use the older version:
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/perfmonitor.html





1404) Message boards : Number crunching : Hardware upgrades that help the most (Message 1451045)
Posted 7 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... just bought a pair for $9 off ebay

I don't believe you can buy "pair of servers" nor "pair of Xeons" for $9
What do you mean?


Those would be ~10 year old Xeon chips. ...

So this server:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6694553

... do not have one 4-core Xeon chip but have in fact two P4-like chips, one core each with HT (so BOINC see 'Number of processors 4')?
http://ark.intel.com/products/33103/64-bit-Intel-Xeon-Processor-2_80-GHz-2M-Cache-800-MHz-FSB


If this is ~10 year old server it will have only PCI slots (less options for GPU) and very slight possibility to have PCI Express 1.0 (introduced 2003):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express#PCI_Express_1.0a

(if any chipset for P4-based Xeon support PCIe)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Xeon_chipsets#NetBurst-based_Xeon_chipsets
1405) Message boards : Number crunching : New motherboard - built-in graphics (Message 1451004)
Posted 7 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
where is 'here' ?

Here = on this site = at SETI 'main' = at SETI@home = on http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/

(as opposite: 'SETI Beta' site is not 'here' - as you can see by the link (http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/) and name 'SETI@home/AstroPulse Beta')

1406) Message boards : Number crunching : Hardware upgrades that help the most (Message 1451003)
Posted 7 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Not sure why this is, but anytime you just update a driver, you get a new Comp ID.

It seems that last time you get a new (duplicate) Comp ID was Dec 2011 (for this Phenom 9150e):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?sort=rpc_time&rev=0&show_all=1&userid=729113

(more probable reason may be network problems, not change in video driver)

1407) Message boards : Number crunching : Hardware upgrades that help the most (Message 1450997)
Posted 7 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So I guess with this server, upgrading the Cpu freq is going to be the best bet ...

However, with my desktop, I guees I need to start saving my pennies for a CPU with more cache ...

No and No (unless you need (much) better CPU for your own purpose, not for BOINC)
It's useless to spend money on 10% better CPU 'upgrade'

As already noted many times - for BOINC/SETI get a 'mid-range' GPU (just ask before you buy - some of them may be useless here)


... just bought a pair for $9 off ebay

I don't believe you can buy "pair of servers" nor "pair of Xeons" for $9
What do you mean?

1408) Message boards : Number crunching : New motherboard - built-in graphics (Message 1450977)
Posted 7 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If the Intel GPU driver is installed, would S@H automatically start using it?

No.

BOINC will recognize the Intel GPU but SETI will not use it "automatically" as you can see here (nothing about Intel GPU):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

You can use Intel GPU:
1) here (at SETI 'main') only 'manually' (as explained in the linked thread "AstroPulse for Intel GPUs, open beta2")

2) "automatically" at 'SETI Beta':
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/

... because they are testing Intel GPU apps:
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/apps.php


When the test at 'SETI Beta' is finished those apps will be moved here (at SETI 'main') and only then you will be able to use Intel GPU here "automatically"

1409) Message boards : Number crunching : AstroPulse for Intel GPUs, open beta2 (Message 1450956)
Posted 7 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
GPU times with latest build should remain almost the same, not free cores required.

I don't doubt about GPU times

The observation was that CPU tasks run 2-3x longer if GPU tasks run (probably because (per your guess) of "CPU cache too dirty")
I hope to see if free cores will let the GPU app use CPU cache in a way that do not (or much less) interfere with CPU apps.

(by "GPU app" I mean all parts of it including time spent in Intel-written code in OpenCL runtime implementation)

1410) Message boards : Number crunching : Define whih CPU to use (Message 1450663)
Posted 6 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Process Lasso is free for your needs (CPU affinity adjustments)
http://bitsum.com/processlasso/

Only some features need Pro:
http://bitsum.com/howfree.php

"Persistent (Sticky) CPU affinities" is in free version.
I don't know what is "CPU Core Parking" (I use older version)

1411) Message boards : Number crunching : AstroPulse for Intel GPUs, open beta2 (Message 1450648)
Posted 6 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

@Raistmer

SIV shows 600-1200 MHz
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73184&postid=1450067#1450067

Your app shows:
Max clock frequency: 400Mhz
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3245530934

1412) Message boards : Number crunching : AstroPulse for Intel GPUs, open beta2 (Message 1450646)
Posted 6 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

What if you do the opposite - free 1-2 cores (run 6 CPU tasks) and GPU active (1 task).
Will this increase the total 'production' compared to CPU only computing on 8 cores?

1413) Questions and Answers : Windows : Boinc ran under Server 2008 R2 Standard Edition 64bit as a DC until... (Message 1450632)
Posted 6 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The instructions from this PDF can be simplified by just jump from:
"6. Click Finish."
... to:
"7. Create shortcuts to where ever you want ..."

(i.e. skip everything in between the above two steps -
BOINC will run from the folders (program and data) created in the step:
"5. Change the location to the folder you’ve created in step 1 and click Install."
)

1414) Questions and Answers : Windows : Boinc ran under Server 2008 R2 Standard Edition 64bit as a DC until... (Message 1450615)
Posted 6 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
When will they start using global accounts?

The same question was asked 5 years ago so I don't expect a fix soon:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=3419

Probably they don't want to invest time in fixing this because so few people use Domain Controllers for BOINC


More to read:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=3615
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Release_Notes#BOINC_7.2_incompatible_with_Domain_Controllers


Manual Installation of BOINC on Windows Server (get the linked .PDF for full instructions):
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r27926916-Manual-Installation-of-BOINC-on-Windows-Server

PDF:
http://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/2067773~0fab61f160694eaf32e8be319d5b32c6/Manual%20Installation%20of%20BOINC%20on%20Windows%20Server.pdf

1415) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows 8.1 Graphics display problem (Message 1449606)
Posted 3 Dec 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

It's easy to check which apps do have graphics parts. Go to:
.....\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\

and look for .exe files with 'graphics' in the name, e.g.:
setigraphics_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe

(the 'graphics' .exe files are 'companion' files, i.e. the computing part of the above is setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe)

1416) Message boards : Number crunching : Blue Screening with Lunatics/ATI Driver (Message 1448367)
Posted 29 Nov 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

May be PSU related (not enough peak power)
May be heat related
How often it is "Blue Screening"?

To reduce the power usage (for test, to isolate the problem) you may:
* compute on only 1 CPU core by:
On multiprocessors, use at most 1% of the processors
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global


* <ignore_ati_dev> (disable the use of one or two of the GPUs at a time)
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration

<ignore_ati_dev>N</ignore_ati_dev>
ignore (don't use) a specific ATI GPU. You can ignore more than one.

1417) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows 8.1 Graphics display problem (Message 1448352)
Posted 29 Nov 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The use of the GPU for computation and for screen saver graphics conflicts.

This is only true for old GPUs
And we don't know is the monitor connected to the NVIDIA GeForce GT 735M or to Intel HD Graphics 4000

1418) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows 8.1 Graphics display problem (Message 1447910)
Posted 28 Nov 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Yesterday I disabled GPU work and reset the project ...

Nobody advised you to reset the project.

To see the graphics you only need:
Set 'Use CPU yes' (no need to disable GPU):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

Wait to get tasks for CPU
Wait (or force) some of CPU tasks to be 'Running'
Select 'Running' SETI CPU task
Use the button [Show Graphics]

1419) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Smartphone/Android client (Message 1447424)
Posted 27 Nov 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

NativeBOINC (works (have app) for main SETI site (= here))
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=7414

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71222


or official 'Android version of BOINC' (works (have app) for beta SETI site (= not here))
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72710

1420) Message boards : Number crunching : Is there a problem? I cannot receive any new tasks since 1:15pm EST on 11-27-13. (Message 1447407)
Posted 27 Nov 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Look at these links (you will see everyone can't get tasks now):
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=/router-interfaces/inr-211/gigabitethernet6_17&ranges=d%3Aw&view=Octets

(low green = low/no downloads)

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html

'Results ready to send 0 0 '


For problems like this - in the future look for a thread named:
Panic Mode On (XX) Server Problems?


Edit:
Of course I didn't know a few minutes ago it will be "4-day weekend" in the USA
When this long weekend starts?

Now 'Current local time in Berkeley' is 'Wednesday, 27 November 2013, 07:25:15 PST'
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=791

1421) Message boards : Number crunching : BONIC on RK3188 running PicUntu (Message 1446989)
Posted 26 Nov 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I think any <platform>XXXXX</platform> tag can be 'faked' in app_info.xml if you have the right (working on this CPU/OS) app.
Offline test can show if the app is working.

1422) Message boards : Number crunching : How to contract BOINC develpoers (Message 1446982)
Posted 26 Nov 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I see you reported it:
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.distributed.boinc.devel/7035

... and the answer is:

Re: signed int overflow in get_daily_xfer_history

Actually the variable is a double, but it was being printed with %d.
I fixed this.
-- David


'the variable is a double' maybe refers to:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/android-boinc/boinc/client/net_stats.h

struct DAILY_XFER {
    int when;
    double up;
    double down;
    DAILY_XFER() {
        when = 0;
        up = down = 0;
    }
    int parse(XML_PARSER&);
    void write(FILE*);
};

struct DAILY_XFER_HISTORY {
    deque<DAILY_XFER> daily_xfers;
    bool dirty;

    DAILY_XFER* today();
    void add(size_t, bool upload);
    void init();
    void poll();
    void totals(int ndays, double& up, double& down);
    void write_state();
    void write_scheduler_request(MIOFILE&, int ndays);
    DAILY_XFER_HISTORY() {
        dirty = false;
    }
};

1423) Message boards : Number crunching : Rescheduling - Please don't beat me - read first! (Message 1446976)
Posted 26 Nov 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Unfortunately i found no way to reschedule between GPUs, only from CPU to GPU and vice versa


I think you can do this in 2 steps:
Intel GPU -> CPU
CPU -> Nvidia GPU

(by 'Preferred use:' - I think you'll need existing CPU AP app in app_info.xml
After adding CPU AP app to app_info.xml you have to restart BOINC so new info from app_info.xml is entered by BOINC to client_state.xml

First use 'Simulation mode, only create a new state file' to see/compare the changes in client_state.xml
)

1424) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI Radeon X1650se --> Will this card work in BOINC/Ubuntu Linux (GPU)??? (Message 1446308)
Posted 24 Nov 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
MSI GeForce GT 610 1GB PhysX CUDA with a large Heatsink, so that I can mount a fan for ekstra cooling!

GeForce GT 610 is so weak of a GPU (rebranded GeForce GT 520 - TDP 29 watts) so even passive cooling have to be sufficient:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_600_Series#GeForce_600_.286xx.29_series

You spend money on expensive CPUs and cheap GPU - do the opposite if you want your money spend more effectively.


BOINC didn't use the GPU

You need NVIDIA drivers (which support CUDA)
Example of computer using Linux + NVIDIA for SETI:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5880691

1425) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Communication delay (Message 1446307)
Posted 24 Nov 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I wish that were the answer.

That was the only thing needed to fix the errors:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7139312&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=

There are also other options to fix this as: changing your ISP, convince the ISP to not re-compress the JPG files,
or use VPN like SecurityKISS (no way for your ISP to see/change your traffic):
http://www.securitykiss.com/)

(ability to ask for tasks is completely different matter, your initial problem were errors on every task)

1426) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : amd driver failed and recovered (Message 1444387)
Posted 20 Nov 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If "driver failed and recovered" happened once (or rare, e.g. once a month) - just reboot.

Else (if happens often) - check the GPU temperature, e.g. by SIV:
http://rh-software.com/downloads/siv.zip
http://rh-software.com/

You may also try to increase the GPU RAM (now is set at 256MB) in the computer BIOS to 512MB


If you don't want SETI tasks for your GPU (AMD E1-1500 APU with Radeon HD Graphics / AMD Radeon HD 6200/6300/7300 series (Wrestler) (256MB))
- go here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

... and set:
Use ATI GPU no

1427) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Communication delay (Message 1443313)
Posted 17 Nov 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Your errors are not because of slow or 'long delay' internet.
"Communication deferred" for 5 minutes is nothing to worry about (normal message).

The errors are because your ISP re-codes the .jpg files
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7139312&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3241141022

Stderr output

<core_client_version>7.2.28</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
app_version download error: couldn't get input files:
<file_xfer_error>
<file_name>seti_700.jpg</file_name>
<error_code>-200</error_code>
</file_xfer_error>
</message>


To remedy just:
'Skip image file verification' yes
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global

1428) Message boards : Number crunching : 4x HD7990 + 2x E5-2630v2 (Message 1442298)
Posted 14 Nov 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

This info may be of use:
http://www.servethehome.com/narrow-ilm-square-ilm-lga2011-heatsink-differences/

1429) Questions and Answers : Windows : gepauzeerd! (Message 1442283)
Posted 14 Nov 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
since a little while m y seti says it is paused and actually stopped working since a week or two ! My other projects are working fine and this has never been a problem , can anybody tell me what is the problem and what can i do about it !
Thanks !

What do you mean by "paused" and "stopped working"? (exact words and where do you read them)

You have 'In Progress' tasks for both SETI@home and Rosetta@home
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6801365&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1&appid=
http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/results.php?hostid=1571486

('In Progress' means 'tasks still in your computer')

1430) Questions and Answers : Wish list : i want sound (Message 1442263)
Posted 14 Nov 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I want sound give me sound , I want to be able to hear what your picking up ...

OK, listen (and be annoyed after a few minutes):

Get this file:
http://mail.dir.bg/~bil/wu2wav-boinc-BilBg_2.rar

Unpack it and execute the file:
!RUN SCRIPT.cmd

Then go to waves and listen to the generated .wav files


Notes:

The script was written by someone else, I edited it a year ago for better file management.
The file wu2wav-boinc-BilBg_2.rar contains six SETI@home Enhanced (v6) WUs (in WUs directory)
I specially collected WUs with more signals in them (look in WUs\Info directory)

Unfortunately the script have to be changed (do not work) on current SETI@home v7 WUs (they have a little different format)
If somebody want to try to edit the script - go ahead... (the proper bytes have to be extracted from WUs)

Antivirus scan:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/3c229557b5ade2acb4a34e0f36c6937c1c3b75debf9ff521ecab04347c0c809f/analysis/

1431) Message boards : Number crunching : My wingman's WU finished with errors but validated anyway? (Message 1440515)
Posted 9 Nov 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

It is still here and is:
'application SETI@home Enhanced'
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1254893551

The same computer have 14 SETI@home Enhanced tasks looking the same way:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6787723&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=2

1432) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems getting AP work (Message 1440512)
Posted 9 Nov 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I didn't think I have to explain this to someone Joined: 29 Jun 99 - Posts: 1497
The place is shown every time you start BOINC:

08/11/2013 10:26:23 Starting BOINC client version 6.10.58 for windows_intelx86
08/11/2013 10:26:23 Config: zero long-term debts on startup
08/11/2013 10:26:23 log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task, benchmark_debug, dcf_debug
08/11/2013 10:26:23 Libraries: libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.3
08/11/2013 10:26:23 Data directory: H:\BOINC-Data

And at the same place you can find cc_config.xml (if you have it)
You have to have global_prefs_override.xml as you repeatedly say you use local preferences.

And you have to see in the log:
08/11/2013 10:26:25 Reading preferences override file

1433) Message boards : Number crunching : My wingman's WU finished with errors but validated anyway? (Message 1440506)
Posted 9 Nov 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
and now it's gone, but it was an Nvidia AP task not a V6 task ...

AP task can't have a name like 22fe11ac.17848.7838.11.11.20
AP task names look like ap_03ap08ag_B1_P0_00234_20131104_10496.wu_0
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6886967&offset=0&show_names=1&state=2&appid=12

1434) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems getting AP work (Message 1440504)
Posted 9 Nov 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I feel it must be something in my local preferences.

Then post the contents of global_prefs_override.xml for us to check.
This file contains your local settings (bellow is from BOINC 6.10.58):
<global_preferences>
   <run_on_batteries>0</run_on_batteries>
   <run_if_user_active>1</run_if_user_active>
   <run_gpu_if_user_active>0</run_gpu_if_user_active>
   <idle_time_to_run>7.000000</idle_time_to_run>
   <suspend_cpu_usage>0.000000</suspend_cpu_usage>
   <start_hour>22.283333</start_hour>
   <end_hour>11.616667</end_hour>
   <net_start_hour>7.000000</net_start_hour>
   <net_end_hour>1.000000</net_end_hour>
   <leave_apps_in_memory>0</leave_apps_in_memory>
   <confirm_before_connecting>1</confirm_before_connecting>
   <hangup_if_dialed>0</hangup_if_dialed>
   <dont_verify_images>0</dont_verify_images>
   <work_buf_min_days>0.010000</work_buf_min_days>
   <work_buf_additional_days>0.010000</work_buf_additional_days>
   <max_ncpus_pct>100.000000</max_ncpus_pct>
   <cpu_scheduling_period_minutes>14000.000000</cpu_scheduling_period_minutes>
   <disk_interval>77.000000</disk_interval>
   <disk_max_used_gb>1.500000</disk_max_used_gb>
   <disk_max_used_pct>10.000000</disk_max_used_pct>
   <disk_min_free_gb>0.200000</disk_min_free_gb>
   <vm_max_used_pct>75.000000</vm_max_used_pct>
   <ram_max_used_busy_pct>77.000000</ram_max_used_busy_pct>
   <ram_max_used_idle_pct>88.000000</ram_max_used_idle_pct>
   <max_bytes_sec_up>0.000000</max_bytes_sec_up>
   <max_bytes_sec_down>0.000000</max_bytes_sec_down>
   <cpu_usage_limit>100.000000</cpu_usage_limit>
   <daily_xfer_limit_mb>0.000000</daily_xfer_limit_mb>
   <daily_xfer_period_days>0</daily_xfer_period_days>
</global_preferences>

1435) Message boards : Number crunching : CUDA WIN8 x64 / NVIDIA card issue? (Message 1440487)
Posted 9 Nov 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Remember the original issue of desktop turning unresponsive.

I suggest you to run Process Explorer (minimized) then after the 'freeze' look in 'CPU History' column which process had spike in CPU usage
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx

The (partial) screenshot is from Process Explorer 14.01 (2010) on Win XP, current version 15.40 on Win 8 may look somehow different



1436) Message boards : Number crunching : CUDA WIN8 x64 / NVIDIA card issue? (Message 1440144)
Posted 8 Nov 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Your tasks don't show 'strange' events
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7065876&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=

... except sometimes longer Run time (3,883 vs 1,185) for the same 'angle range' (0.443478)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3226395899
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3226395895

(the longer Run time can be caused by other use of the CPU/GPU e.g. you play game during computing)

To test "is it connected to SETI CUDA" you can for a few hours suspend SETI project (or exit BOINC)

When you say "Task manager" sometimes this sounds like Windows Task Manager and sometimes like BOINC Manager - make clear what do you mean in every case.

Claim like this is hard to understand:
"when not in use, and monitor goes to sleep, the desktop "blanks out" as blue background color, still, the active browser window is usable."

How can you use browser window when monitor is sleeping?


Do a test with DPC Latency Checker (with/without BOINC running):
http://www.thesycon.de/eng/latency_check.shtml

Don't miss the note about:
"Windows 8 Compatibility: The DPC latency utility runs on Windows 8 but does not show correct values. The output suggests that the Windows 8 kernel performs badly and introduces a constant latency of one millisecond"

So you will see values above 1000 µs (I think 1000 is just bias/shift - actual values will add to/above 1000)
If you can - post a screenshot.

1437) Message boards : Number crunching : 4x HD7990 + 2x E5-2630v2 (Message 1440102)
Posted 8 Nov 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Difference between RDIMM and UDIMM:
http://www.vlsiencyclopedia.com/2012/07/difference-between-rdimm-and-udimm.html

"... for two or more DIMMs per channel, RDIMMs will have lower latency and better bandwidth than UDIMMs."

"for a single DIMM per channel, UDIMMs produce approximately 0.5% better memory bandwidth than RDIMMs"
"For two DIMMs per channel, RDIMMs are about 8.7% faster than UDIMMs."

"In addition, please note that UDIMMs are limited to 2 DIMMs per channel so RDIMMs must be used if greater than 2 DIMMs per channel"


Why RDIMM/UDIMM memory matters
http://jpaul.me/?p=1078

RDIMMs maximize server performance, reliability, and scalability
http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1279507

Unbuffered versus Registered ECC Memory – Difference between ECC UDIMMs and RDIMMs
http://www.servethehome.com/unbuffered-registered-ecc-memory-difference-ecc-udimms-rdimms/

1438) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems getting AP work (Message 1440097)
Posted 8 Nov 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I find it odd that it will not ask for work until it completes what ever task is finished.

What are the contents of cc_config.xml
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration

There exist setting/option that will do this if enabled:

<fetch_minimal_work>0|1</fetch_minimal_work>
Fetch one job per device (see --fetch_minimal_work). New in 6.11

1439) Questions and Answers : Windows : Number of "all" tasks decreases? Switching between CPU and GPU? (Message 1439005)
Posted 6 Nov 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
so all or some validated results are deleted after 24 hours?

All
As already noted the results are not wasted - they are entered in science database (which we can't see) but purged from BOINC database so are not more visible in the task list on the web site.


the wingman for them has about 2000 invalid results but both his invalid and valid result lists go back for months.

There is some glitch/bug in the validator - sometimes valid result stay 'forever' (until the lab runs some fixing script)


also for cpu/gpu, i know they're both using some cpu but there were times when all the pending tasks were reserved for cuda

"pending tasks"?
Be careful with the terminology - "real" 'pending tasks' are not more in your computer (they are returned to server and wait for validation)
You probably mean tasks shown by BOINC Manager as 'Ready to start' or 'Waiting to run'
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Advanced_view#The_Tasks_tab


and my quad core wasn't being used. so only 1 task was running instead of 5 even though i had a dozen tasks pending.

Are you sure those "pending" (really 'Ready to start' or 'Waiting to run') are sent for your CPU?
(look in 'Application' column - if there is something like '(cuda32)' or '(opencl_nvidia_100)' the task is NOT for CPU (NOT sent to be run on CPU))

To get more tasks go here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global

... and set to get work for e.g. 3 days
Maintain enough tasks to keep busy for at least 3 days

1440) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Kindle (Message 1438638)
Posted 6 Nov 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I had to Google to find out what is 'Kindle' (very disgusting for me name for a device)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kindle_Fire
(Fire OS based on Android, ARMv7)

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php (No)
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/apps.php (Yes)

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Android_FAQ (general info - for all projects)
http://nativeboinc.org/site/uncat/start (maybe)

1441) Message boards : Number crunching : 2 WUs with wingmate marked invalid (Message 1437800)
Posted 4 Nov 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I don't know "how the server decided these were invalid" (have to be something in the result file, not in stderr_txt)
but he has more invalids (and some are 'lone' invalids)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7029894&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1349510109

And he runs overclocked:
clockRate = 1401 MHz
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3222356369

Processor Clock (MHz) 1215 MHz
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-480/specifications


His 'validated' tasks (Computer 7029894) have big difference in printed signal counts in stderr_txt compared to other 'validated' tasks in the same WU (probably because the other tasks are done with CPU apps):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1348142920

1442) Questions and Answers : Windows : Power - Frequency - Time Graphic (Message 1437196)
Posted 3 Nov 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"It seems that the issue is with the latest Intel HD drivers" (Posted: 5 Oct 2012)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69101&postid=1291472#1291472

1443) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Setting a Signature (Message 1436033)
Posted 31 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

SETI stats files are made available here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/stats/

Theoretically you can download those files and make your own stat-site ;)

1444) Message boards : Number crunching : Warning: Avast indicates false positive on Astropulse V6 for Nvidia! (Message 1435606)
Posted 30 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I've since applied global exclusions on Avast on all my rigs, so I don't know if subsequent definition updates are doing the same thing.

EDIT: Avast called the .exe "suspicious-evo-win32"

I don't know what you mean by "global exclusions" (exclude BOINC dir?, exclude the .exe file name?)

You can check by:
1) Copy the file (AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_NV_r1843.exe)
from ...\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\ (which is excluded)
e.g. to your Desktop (which is not excluded and have to trigger the detection)

2) Rename the copy of the file (if you excluded AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_NV_r1843.exe by name - new name have to trigger the detection)

(I reported False Positive to AVAST using the link from Dr Who Fan post)

1445) Message boards : Number crunching : Astropulse work units locking up (Message 1435591)
Posted 30 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I am using the latest BOINC. Any help?

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73008&postid=1427812#1427812

1446) Message boards : Number crunching : 4x HD7990 + 2x E5-2630v2 (Message 1435585)
Posted 30 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Maybe also to consider:

1) Disable Last Access Time Stamps
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms940846(v=winembedded.5).aspx
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff794679(v=winembedded.60).aspx

(just did the change on XP - needed to create NtfsDisableLastAccessUpdate - was not there)

I don't know if "it's disabled by default in Windows 7" as posted here:
http://superuser.com/questions/200126/are-there-any-negative-effects-of-disabling-the-last-access-timestamp

AndrejaKo: "I'm on fresh installation of windows 7 64bit here and NtfsDisableLastAccessUpdate is set to 1 by default."


2) Disabling Disk Defragmentation
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-US/library/ms932871(v=winembedded.5).aspx

(again I don't know if this is relevant for Windows 7 or it detects SSD and do some necessary adjustments)

1447) Message boards : Number crunching : 4x HD7990 + 2x E5-2630v2 (Message 1435519)
Posted 30 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The only thing I'd recommend as a precautionary measure if you choose the SSD is to decrease the checkpoint interval in BOINC and disable the pagefile (should work without any issue with 32GB RAM).

You of course meant 'increase the checkpoint interval in BOINC' (e.g. from 60 s to 300 s)

And I think all modern SSDs (and USB flash drives) have Wear leveling
(if you write at the same sector/LBA many times in fact different cells are used (SSD disk controller maintains internal table LBA -> physical cell/block))
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wear_leveling

http://www.informationweek.com/storage/systems/demystifying-ssd-wear-leveling/229402749
http://searchsolidstatestorage.techtarget.com/definition/wear-leveling

1448) Message boards : Number crunching : Long time workunits (Message 1435487)
Posted 30 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
That's not the Correct Driver for an ATI series 4 card. That is the driver for a HD5000, series 5 card.

You are right - the .inf files (at least) are different.

More results here:
http://drivers.softpedia.com/dyn-search.php?search_term=Catalyst+Legacy

They lead to links on www2.ati.com like:
http://www2.ati.com/drivers/legacy/13-1-legacy_vista_win7_win8_64_dd_ccc.exe


Of course if the filename is known the link can be made manually by appending the filename to any of:
http://www2.ati.com/drivers/
http://www2.ati.com/drivers/legacy/

This way you can get even very old drivers (the link below works but is given only as example, not as any recommendation):
http://www2.ati.com/drivers/9-12_xp32_dd_ccc_wdm_enu.exe

1449) Message boards : Number crunching : Long time workunits (Message 1435143)
Posted 29 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
That has 11.12, but not Legacy 13.1

http://www.shelteringoak.com/drivers/Video/ATI/Catalyst/Radeon%20HD5000%20and%20newer/Catalyst%2013.1/

Also old Drivers can be found here:
http://www.filehippo.com/download_ati_catalyst_vista_64/14129/

GPU Caps Viewer is known here for a long time:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=61080&postid=1025065#1025065
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68607&postid=1253703#1253703
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68634&postid=1254578#1254578

1450) Message boards : Number crunching : Warning: Avast indicates false positive on Astropulse V6 for Nvidia! (Message 1435138)
Posted 29 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
VirusTotal ... finds no virus report among the 47 virus scanning engines they're currently using to test

I wonder why the file is removed on people's systems and not detected in online tests (on 3 sites which may use different settings - e.g. for Heuristics Sensitivity):

https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/eb1ac69c71df145f5b7872f73fb7618dc64bc0cb8ac843631e4fb191ba77cc14/analysis/

http://virusscan.jotti.org/en/scanresult/a0008b68f4926ecf23760399e083a28957c5c233

http://r.virscan.org/report/808b98fa425e8be88dff891e97df9028.html

(This have to be some 'Behavioral Analysis' or how they call it by Avast or this is specific to Avast v9/2014 and do not happen on Avast v8/2013)

1451) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Setting a Signature (Message 1434788)
Posted 28 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Something:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Cross-project_identification

... caused new BOINC Cross Project IDentifier to be generated.
Tomorrow probably will become in sync (links here to pages on stat-sites).

1452) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Setting a Signature (Message 1434777)
Posted 28 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I don't know why my PC doesn't show up also. Strange..

Did you change also the email?

I think this is your Computer:
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/host/detail/113704645

BOINC Cross Project IDentifier 29eca2a217816da341ce83e286042df7
Here shown (in http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7118018):
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/host/detail/4ed7a4cee0aae659ed7bed826de55451
- change may be caused by change in the email

1453) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Setting a Signature (Message 1434767)
Posted 28 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

3 problems:

1) Link is like this:

http://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/56976/sig.png
http://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/56976/sig.png




2) You can't use the User ID here for boincstats signature
(my User ID here is 8647488 and you can see the number 56976 in above links)

3) Your Computer 7118018:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7118018

... do not show in boincstats (I don't know why):
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/host/detail/4ed7a4cee0aae659ed7bed826de55451


E.g. my info is visible:
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/host/detail/e4f2c0157d0dcfc13088cb0b7658ceb4

And at the bottom of these pages you see the 'URL for user signature graphic':
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/7857e9fc356c31d5b09ecae27eb45005/overview

http://boincstats.com/en/stats/0/user/detail/8647488

http://boincstats.com/signature/0/user/56976/project/sig.png
http://boincstats.com/signature/0/user/56976/project/sig.png





This have to be your page but shows 'Steve':
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/0/user/detail/22246

http://boincstats.com/signature/0/user/1495604/project/sig.png
http://boincstats.com/signature/0/user/1495604/project/sig.png



1454) Message boards : Number crunching : 4x HD7990 + 2x E5-2630v2 (Message 1433911)
Posted 26 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

So you try to use the old trick to unwrap (or unwind? - I don't know the English term) the loops and to avoid multiply (*)

This was working great on 8-bit 1 MHz 6502 CPU (used in Apple ][+ (and by 'The Terminator' ;) ))
But does it have any effect on today's CPUs/GPUs/compilers?

1455) Message boards : Number crunching : Merging Accounts? (Message 1433428)
Posted 25 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
In other words I'm pretty sure he's already done what you and Richard are proposing, just not to the account he posted with.

This is possible - he did not give any link to the old account (for us to check is it already used for BOINC at some point)


How else would he know his old scores?

By 'User search'?
E.g. this is a Classic account of somebody 'Tatts' (there are 9 users with that name):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=1131180

1456) Message boards : Number crunching : Merging Accounts? (Message 1433413)
Posted 25 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If I were you I'd dump the one you used to post and go with the old one.

1) Not possible:
"When we launched SETI@home/BOINC, we created accounts for all SETI@home Classic users ... These accounts were not given passwords (i.e., they can't be accessed using any password)."
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic.php

2) Not needed:
He (Tatts) just need to use the link in Richard's post (Claim your SETI@home Classic workunits)
while he is logged-in his current account (http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=8112236)

If the old account is 'Classic account' the effect (on the current account) will be:
- 'Joined' date will change to 2000
- Info about 'SETI@home classic workunits' and 'SETI@home classic CPU time' will be added to the details of the current account (and the same info removed from the old account)

1457) Message boards : Number crunching : 4x HD7990 + 2x E5-2630v2 (Message 1433238)
Posted 25 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

4 cards * 2 GPUs = 8 GPUs
8 * 3 tasks = 24 GPU tasks
+ 24 CPU tasks = 48 tasks total
48 * ~50 MB = 2400 MB

So < 3 GB RAM for 48 SETI tasks (make that 5 GB if 100 MB/task)

32 GB RAM is too much (money) just for SETI
(and reg-ECC is expensive - will you run an airport traffic control server? ;) )

1458) Message boards : Number crunching : GTX 780 not requesting tasks? (Message 1432532)
Posted 24 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... Still, sometimes ya just gotta use a bit more C4.

Only if you don't know how to use 'the bloody' key ... ;)

1459) Questions and Answers : Wish list : The night sky (Message 1432176)
Posted 23 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Try SETIspirit
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72095
http://www.setispirit.de/downloads.htm

1460) Message boards : Number crunching : Costs per Credit? (Message 1431811)
Posted 22 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

To pre-answer somebody's question:
During winter these additional Watts are not wasted - this energy just turns to heat and warms the room.

1461) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation Errors??? (Message 1431808)
Posted 22 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Wouldn't Anti Virus be more inclined to interfere during Downloading or Uploading? ... That is why I haven't done it, because I thought they would not be affected while they are Running

While 'they' are Running: BOINC and apps write often to the disk/files


I'll try doing that with Both Computers.

If you are in doubt 'how to':
http://boincwiki.mundayweb.com/index.php?title=Add_the_BOINC_Data_directory_to_the_exclusions_of_my_antivirus_program

(for some antiviruses you may need additionally set BOINC (boinc.exe) as 'trusted program')

Check the logs of the antivirus/'security' program for what it blocked so far

1462) Message boards : Number crunching : Costs per Credit? (Message 1431805)
Posted 22 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
On my FX 8150 overclocked to 4.4 GHZ the difference is approx 80 Watts per hour.

Watts per hour? (W/h) ;)
Will you rephrase that? (there is no such unit)

1463) Questions and Answers : Windows : my laptop keeps crashing when running seti@home (Message 1431007)
Posted 20 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Try to use TThrottle to limit the temperatures (especially on GPU as the errors/crashes are for 'AstroPulse v6 v6.06 (opencl_ati_100)')
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7035190&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=

TThrottle:
http://www.efmer.eu/boinc/

"Select a temperature, check "Auto active" and TThrottle handles the rest" -
type 2 values: for CPU temperature ('Set Core') and GPU temperature ('Set GPU'),
e.g. 60°C 70°C - these are the Max temperatures You allow for BOINC apps to heat your CPU/GPU (TThrottle will lower the CPU/GPU usage% when/if these temperatures are reached)

(at the first start TThrottle may appear to hang/lag the computer for a few minutes during tests it does to determine the number of sensors in your CPU (this may be fixed in later versions - TThrottle 6.10 was the version I used a year ago when this happened at first start on new CPU))

1464) Message boards : Number crunching : Stability problems in Windows 8 (Message 1430815)
Posted 19 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The triggering combination seems to be:
1) running AP GPU
2) fully loaded CPU

Did you already tried to free 1-2 CPU cores? (i.e. to run 1-2 less CPU tasks)
(as I understand "fully loaded CPU" means you run 8 CPU tasks?)

1465) Questions and Answers : Windows : 100% Computation Errors Since Installing Version 7.0.64 (Message 1430811)
Posted 19 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
McAfee is not on the following list but you'll get the idea how to
'Add the BOINC Data directory to the exclusions of my antivirus program':

I can't find a way to do that in my version of McAfee.

See if any of these Articles can give you a hint:
https://kc.mcafee.com/corporate/index?page=content&id=KB50998
https://kc.mcafee.com/corporate/index?page=content&id=KB51471
https://kc.mcafee.com/corporate/index?page=content&id=KB66909

http://kb.mit.edu/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=5380943
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/add-trusted-application-mcafee-46105.html
http://www.ehow.com/how_5037944_exclude-paths-mcafee-antivirus.html

(some antivirus programs need to be switched to 'Advanced' or 'Expert' mode to show such settings)

I 'never' used McAfee so can't say more ('never' because I used only DOS version ~1990)

1466) Message boards : Number crunching : Intel Xeon Phi (Message 1430679)
Posted 19 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I've excerpted the CO scene and made a video of the new lift going up and stopping at all floors ("This lift is going up. Please mind the doors. This is floor three.") but I haven't yet worked out how to join them together -- everything I've tried likes one format but not the other!

Did you try Avidemux (I use Avidemux 2.5.6-1)
http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/
http://avidemux.berlios.de/
http://avidemux.sourceforge.net/

1467) Questions and Answers : Windows : 100% Computation Errors Since Installing Version 7.0.64 (Message 1430665)
Posted 19 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The errors are not drivers related (they happen on all kinds of tasks/apps)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3204019183
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7118149&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=

('Can't write init file: fopen() failed' may be AntiVirus or UAC related ('init file' is .xml file (init_data.xml) probably blocked by McAfee))

Do you use BOINC from the same Windows account used to install it?

McAfee is not on the following list but you'll get the idea how to
'Add the BOINC Data directory to the exclusions of my antivirus program':
http://boincwiki.mundayweb.com/index.php?title=Add_the_BOINC_Data_directory_to_the_exclusions_of_my_antivirus_program

1468) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation Errors??? (Message 1429969)
Posted 18 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
18/10/2013 1:05:00 AM | SETI@home | Task 19no08ad.3688.890.3.12.50_0 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file
18/10/2013 1:05:00 AM | SETI@home | If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project.
18/10/2013 1:05:00 AM | SETI@home | Restarting task 19no08ad.3688.890.3.12.50_0 using setiathome_v7 version 700 in slot 3

And task 19no08ad.3688.890.3.12.50_0 finished with Success/Valid:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?result_name=19no08ad.3688.890.3.12.50_0

As I already noted: "This are not "Error Messages" and they will not disappear if you reset the project."
After several (unneeded) project resets are you already convinced it will not 'help'? (for what 'problem'?)

"you may need to reset the project." 'advice' is intended only for the case if the app files (.exe .dll) are corrupted. (reset deletes them and downloads again the same files from the server)

MyEventViewer can maybe show what happened at that time (e.g. 18/10/2013 1:05:00 AM)
(it is easier to use than standard (Windows) Event Viewer)
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/my_event_viewer.html

1469) Questions and Answers : Windows : Program Hang on Some Work Units (Message 1428765)
Posted 15 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Happens on older AMD CPUs during 'Optimal function choice'
You can see table for 'Optimal function choices:' in your normal finished task and no table in your hang/Aborted task:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3196202256
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3196565676


I have taken to aborting the stuck work units ...

Instead try:
[Suspend] the hang task (another task will start)
Wait a few seconds (10-60)
[Resume] the task

(it may not restart immediately but when it restarts it may pass OK the 'Optimal function choice' which is not task dependent.
'Optimal function choice' happens before the actual task processing.
So in fact the app 'hangs' - not the task
)

P.S.
The real cure is to install Optimized SETI@home apps (known also as Lunatics apps/Installer)
They do not have 'Optimal function choice' and are faster.

(I hesitate to give you more directions as your last post before today was '2869 days ago'.
(Of course it may be that you only visit to read the forums and did not post for a long time.)
Optimized apps do not autoupdate - if you use them you will be responsible to inform yourself for new Optimized versions by visiting the forums.
)

1470) Questions and Answers : Windows : SET@Home 7.00 crashing under Windows 7 Professional x86 Edition, Service Pack 1 (Message 1428750)
Posted 15 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... so I increased the time for network communications to 90 seconds (from the default of 60 seconds) in the BOINC client.

Which exact setting do you mean?


People have also suggested a new beta version of the BOINC client.

Just "People" or Ageless?
See the links in his signature - he writes those pages:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/w/?title=Advanced_view&action=history


- BOINC installed in a dedicated drive partition with full permission in Samba for BOINC to read and write to that partition,

Does this also imply 'execute'? (as the apps are there - in the BOINC Data directory)
Is this 'drive partition' always mounted? (or Samba/network can unmount/mount it at random time)
(What is the reason that you can't use 1-2 GB of real HDD space?)


- BOINC in compatibility mode (Windows XP, SP3),

I don't understand why you think you need this (BOINC have to run fine in 'native' Windows 7)


- BOINC with GPU disabled (it appears that the AMD/ATI chipset is not supposed to be compatible with SETI@Home),

If you mean your older AMD ATI Radeon HD 2300/2400/3200/4200 (RV610) (256MB) - yes, not much it can do for SETI computing (only AstroPulse in CAL/hybrid (CPU 80% + GPU 20% of 'work') mode).

But many people (including me - ATI/AMD Radeon HD 6570) are using (newer) AMD/ATI GPUs for SETI
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4832843
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=41209
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/top_hosts.php


1471) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Frequency Time Power Graph Not Working (Message 1427890)
Posted 13 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

More links:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69101
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71007

1472) Message boards : Number crunching : Astropulse work units locking up (Message 1427844)
Posted 12 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
But the only AstroPulse task for computer 7067267 is one CPU task 'AstroPulse v6 v6.01' which is 'Aborted by user':
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7067267&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=12

Which contradicts with the "forgot to mention that it states (.133 CPU's + 1 ATI GPU) beside the work unit"

Which makes me believe the hang task for ATI GPU was not AstroPulse but 'SETI@home v7 v7.03 (opencl_ati5_sah)' like this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3124037807

It Restarted 3 times at ~22 percent (and after 'Run time 85,376.02' was 'Aborted by user'):

Running on device number: 0
Priority of worker thread raised successfully
Priority of process adjusted successfully, below normal priority class used
OpenCL platform detected: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
BOINC assigns device 0
Info: BOINC provided device ID used

Build features: SETI7 Non-graphics OpenCL OCL_CHIRP3 FFTW AMD specific USE_SSE x86
CPUID: AMD A8-5500 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics

Cache: L1=64K L2=2048K

CPU features: FPU TSC PAE CMPXCHG8B APIC SYSENTER MTRR CMOV/CCMP MMX FXSAVE/FXRSTOR SSE SSE2 HT SSE3
OpenCL-kernels filename : MultiBeam_Kernels_r1831.cl
ar=0.444557 NumCfft=191999 NumGauss= 1063223448 NumPulse= 114410226175 NumTriplet= 15762032885760

Currently allocated 145 MB for GPU buffers
Restarted at 22.04 percent.
Used GPU device parameters are:
Number of compute units: 4
Single buffer allocation size: 64MB
max WG size: 256
period_iterations_num=20

1473) Message boards : Number crunching : Astropulse work units locking up (Message 1427812)
Posted 12 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Similar problem (task hang at ~21%) was discussed (17 Jun 2013) here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72035

Same parameters:
Windows 8: Core x64 Edition
AMD Radeon HD 7400/7500/7600 series (Trinity) CAL version 1.4.1741, 512MB
BOINC version 7.0.64 for windows_x86_64

The different - it was happening with SETI7 OpenCL r1843, not with Astropulse.

At the end of the long discussion the user solved the problem by installing older BOINC 7.0.28
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72035&postid=1385824#1385824


But the only AstroPulse task for computer 7067267 is one CPU task 'AstroPulse v6 v6.01' which is 'Aborted by user':
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7067267&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=12

Which contradicts with the "forgot to mention that it states (.133 CPU's + 1 ATI GPU) beside the work unit"

1474) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Administrator priviledge for BoincMgr (Message 1425939)
Posted 9 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Probably easier will be to install BOINC not in Program Files but somewhere else, e.g. in:
C:\Programs.Jim

1475) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Administrator priviledge for BoincMgr (Message 1425542)
Posted 8 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Probably you have to uninstall/reinstall BOINC with 'Allow all users on this computer to control BOINC' selected:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Installing_BOINC

1476) Questions and Answers : Windows : SET@Home 7.00 crashing under Windows 7 Professional x86 Edition, Service Pack 1 (Message 1424782)
Posted 6 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The max that one computer can get from SETI is 100 tasks for CPU + 100 tasks for GPU
If they all are AstroPulse tasks (8 MB each) this is max 200 * 8 = 1600 MB for the WU files.
I do AstroPulse only on the GPU (max 100 AstroPulse tasks)

1477) Questions and Answers : Windows : SET@Home 7.00 crashing under Windows 7 Professional x86 Edition, Service Pack 1 (Message 1424404)
Posted 5 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I left the disk usage at 0.00 because, as I understand it, that means that BOINC can use the entire partition.

(this is 'max disk usage', not just 'disk usage')

No, 0.00 means that BOINC have no permission from you to use any more space than it uses now!
Even if the free space is 40 GB BOINC will not use any of it because you give no permission.
So BOINC can't create new files or grow the existing files.

My 3 values are set so BOINC shows:
05-10-2013 04:21 max disk usage: 1.50GB

1478) Questions and Answers : Windows : SET@Home 7.00 crashing under Windows 7 Professional x86 Edition, Service Pack 1 (Message 1424278)
Posted 5 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
1) I bumped my active RAM up per your suggestion. Will have to wait for the current (funky) WU to finish and a couple of others to run to see if this impacts crashes.

Did you also fix 'max disk usage: 0.00GB'? (this will be 'max disk usage' on the mentioned "mapped (Samba) share")
What are the 3 values:
Disk: use at most XX GB
Disk: leave free at least 0.YY GB
Disk: use at most ZZ% of total

... and what is the total GB size of T:\ and how much is the free space (as seen in any file manager e.g. Windows Explorer, Total Commander)


2) You asked in another reply: Question: is Data directory: T:\ real partition or subst/mapped drive? It is a mapped (Samba) share. I do have the option of using an actual dedicated partition if stability hinges on it. It will still be over Samba, however.

I don't know what is 'Samba' but BOINC have to have full read/write/execute access to files there (T:\) at all times.


3) On a related subject, figured out the Windows 7 trust issue...it was not the BOINC application, it was the location of the BOINC application. That is resolved now. Would that have been responsible for the application crashes?

If that 'location' have restricted rights (for read/execute) or the files are locked unexpectedly (e.g. by antivirus) - yes, any program will be confused (crash) if its .exe or .dll files 'vanish' during execution.


5) Your Hillary signature icon says I'm using Windstream, Firefox and Windows. Two for three. Apparently my nix browser ID string munge is working...there's hope for privacy yet!

You know that only you see this info (I see my info, picture is dynamic to show the 'calling' machine info)

1479) Message boards : Number crunching : Only CUDA tasks running - What did I do? (Message 1424096)
Posted 4 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I bought and installed SpyHunter ...

See what people think about SpyHunter:
http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/enigmasoftware.com

And there are free programs like:
http://www.malwarebytes.org/

1480) Questions and Answers : Windows : Trused application (Message 1424083)
Posted 4 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Better find the reason for the crash, BOINC + Windows 7 is used by many and there are no reports that BOINC crashes.

Strange I don't see a Windows 7 Computers in your list:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=9260968

Is it multiboot with XP?

1481) Questions and Answers : Windows : SET@Home 7.00 crashing under Windows 7 Professional x86 Edition, Service Pack 1 (Message 1424075)
Posted 4 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
user-PC --- 10/2/2013 5:41:52 AM Reading preferences override file
user-PC --- 10/2/2013 5:41:52 AM Preferences:
user-PC --- 10/2/2013 5:41:52 AM max memory usage when active: 178.81MB
user-PC --- 10/2/2013 5:41:52 AM max memory usage when idle: 1609.25MB
user-PC --- 10/2/2013 5:41:52 AM max disk usage: 0.00GB

Try to increase both 'max memory usage when active' and 'max disk usage' (3 parameters control 'max disk usage', most restrictive is used by BOINC)


the client downloaded a lot of work units, which will mean a lot of crashes of BOINC assuming that half of these are of the funky format (which appears to be roughly the case).

There is no 'funky format' - all the tasks are the same.

1482) Questions and Answers : Windows : SET@Home 7.00 crashing under Windows 7 Professional x86 Edition, Service Pack 1 (Message 1424065)
Posted 4 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The Log he posted is mixed from 2 Computers (named 'nixtower1' and 'user-PC') which is really confusing.

user-PC --- 10/1/2013 8:46:16 PM Starting BOINC client version 7.0.64 for windows_intelx86
user-PC --- 10/1/2013 8:46:16 PM log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
user-PC --- 10/1/2013 8:46:16 PM Libraries: libcurl/7.25.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1 zlib/1.2.6
user-PC --- 10/1/2013 8:46:16 PM Data directory: T:\
user-PC --- 10/1/2013 8:46:16 PM Running under account Daily User
user-PC --- 10/1/2013 8:46:16 PM Processor: 1 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) Processor TF-36 [Family 15 Model 124 Stepping 2]
user-PC --- 10/1/2013 8:46:16 PM Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 pni cx16 syscall nx lm svm rdtscp 3dnowext 3dnow
user-PC --- 10/1/2013 8:46:16 PM OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Professional x86 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)


Question: is Data directory: T:\ real partition or subst/mapped drive?

1483) Message boards : Number crunching : WUtime% Calculator (Message 1423906)
Posted 4 Oct 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You can do the same WU outside of BOINC using:
'Test and Benchmark Tools'
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=5

1484) Message boards : Number crunching : Astropulse: why so many little time? (Message 1422240)
Posted 30 Sep 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
But processing SETI units with my GPU is very very slower, I prefer to dedicate my GPU to Astropulse.

OK

Then, I would uninstall Lunatics for Seti and install for Astropulse, this:
AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r1797

With this, what I'm going to do is precess Astropulse with GPU+CPU, not?

No and no.

The only file you need is Lunatics_Win32_v0.41_setup.exe
It contains all the apps you need (use 7-Zip to see what's inside it)
(e.g. AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r1797.exe is inside the Lunatics_Win32_v0.41_setup.exe)

Just run the installer and choose the apps you want (e.g. only Astropulse for the GPU).

The installer have all these apps inside it:

AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r1797.exe
setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe
AKv8c_Bb_r1846_winx86_SSE2x.exe
AKv8c_Bb_r1846_winx86_SSSE3x.exe
AKv8c_Bb_r1846_winx86_AVXx.exe
AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r1843.exe
AP6_win_x86_SSE_Brook_r1854.exe
MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_r1843.exe
MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r1843.exe
AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_NV_r1843.exe
Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda23.exe
Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda32.exe
Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda42.exe
Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda50.exe

1485) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems with Karspersky Free Antivirus? (Message 1421781)
Posted 29 Sep 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... that there are antivirus that makes fake positives ETI messages.

You misunderstood.

Antivirus can make tasks/apps to error/crash ('false positives' = antivirus wrongly thinks that some good file is 'virus' and blocks/deletes it)
but antivirus can't make fake ETI messages :)

You can see in the logs/quarantine of Kaspersky (any antivirus) if there is anything BOINC related.

Over the years I remember complains from many users about BOINC problems induced by their antivirus (AVG, Trend Micro, Comodo, Norton, Kaspersky, ...)
I'm using ESET NOD32 Antivirus 4 (No any problem for years, BOINC is Not excluded)

If you want to exclude:
http://boincwiki.mundayweb.com/index.php?title=Add_the_BOINC_Data_directory_to_the_exclusions_of_my_antivirus_program

1486) Message boards : Number crunching : Calcule Error on Astropulse (I think is v6) (Message 1420253)
Posted 25 Sep 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Ok, I´m going to delete it. But why? It make the app crash?

"It" is not one file - you have to delete all .bin and .bin_V6 files
because they where created using the old driver which was incompatible with the app.

(then app will see the .bin files are missing and create new proper ones using the compiler in the new driver)

There are also some .wisdom files which you can delete (they will be recreated)

(if you are afraid to delete you can instead move those files out of setiathome.berkeley.edu directory)

Better exit BOINC before you delete files.

1487) Message boards : Number crunching : output file absent (Message 1419937)
Posted 25 Sep 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... and when you suspended S@H tasks, Einstein took over the slot folders, ...

Not possible unless there is unknown nasty bug in some BOINC version

1488) Questions and Answers : Getting started : No work available to process (Message 1419936)
Posted 25 Sep 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Yes i did install Boing... (derp) It is 3am.

Bionic, Boing, Boeing, BOINC

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/bionic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing

BOINC
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Open_Infrastructure_for_Network_Computing

1489) Message boards : Number crunching : Calcule Error on Astropulse (I think is v6) (Message 1419663)
Posted 24 Sep 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Suggestion for future apps:
App can detect driver/SDK version.
So why not make the bin and bin_v6 files names driver dependent (so they are auto recreated if user changes driver)

E.g. instead of:
AstroPulse_Kernels_r1843.cl_Turks.bin_V6

... app can use:
AstroPulse_Kernels_r1843_CAL-1.4.1646.cl_Turks.bin_V6

Or app can check what is inside the same file and compare with the currently installed.
At the end of AstroPulse_Kernels_r1843.cl_Turks.bin_V6 I see this string:
OpenCL 1.1 AMD-APP (831.4). Driver version: CAL 1.4.1646

If someone (advanced) will want to force use of older bin - app can have switch for that.

1490) Questions and Answers : Getting started : boinc no new tasks for 5 days? (Message 1419659)
Posted 24 Sep 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Any help would be appreciated

Just look the previous post.

1491) Message boards : Number crunching : Calcule Error on Astropulse (I think is v6) (Message 1419494)
Posted 24 Sep 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have Catalist.

From your picture you can see you have Catalyst 11.11
As already noted - for this project the minimum needed is Catalyst 11.12

And for Win XP Catalyst 11.12 is the best version (read the red warnings):
http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet.htm

http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/previous/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx

Unfortunately some of the links look dead.
For Catalyst 12.1 link is still active.
(! Catalyst 12.1 is the last version you can use on Win XP for OpenCL)

1492) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.41 Release Notes (Message 1418485)
Posted 21 Sep 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Internal testing at Lunatics was unable to establish any of those additional builds as consistently better than what was put into the installer. But for those willing to take the time to test on their own system it is quite possible one of those could be better, so I did make them available for download.

Future installers could have more or fewer builds included.
                                                                  Joe

SSE2 vs SSE3 on AMD Athlon II X3 455

For me the SSE3 build is a little slower than SSE2
(the same 30 KB .wisdom file pre-copied to both dirs)

May be because the SSE3 implementation in my CPU is not so good,
SSE3 have more demand on the RAM bandwidth (my is DDR2-800)
or SSE3 build have some non-optimal alignment/order of instructions
though I'm sure devs made every effort to align the instructions optimally.

Quick timetable 
 
WU : PG0009_v7.wu 
AKv8c_Bb_r1846_winx86_SSE2x.exe -verb -nog :
  Elapsed 631.500 secs
      CPU 629.031 secs
AKv8c_Bb_r1846_winx86_SSE3x.exe -verb -nog :
  Elapsed 647.875 secs, speedup: -2.59%  ratio: 0.97x
      CPU 643.500 secs, speedup: -2.30%  ratio: 0.98x
 
WU : PG0395_v7.wu 
AKv8c_Bb_r1846_winx86_SSE2x.exe -verb -nog :
  Elapsed 630.734 secs
      CPU 628.672 secs
AKv8c_Bb_r1846_winx86_SSE3x.exe -verb -nog :
  Elapsed 634.953 secs, speedup: -0.67%  ratio: 0.99x
      CPU 632.828 secs, speedup: -0.66%  ratio: 0.99x
 
WU : PG0444_v7.wu 
AKv8c_Bb_r1846_winx86_SSE2x.exe -verb -nog :
  Elapsed 549.578 secs
      CPU 546.953 secs
AKv8c_Bb_r1846_winx86_SSE3x.exe -verb -nog :
  Elapsed 552.344 secs, speedup: -0.50%  ratio: 0.99x
      CPU 550.125 secs, speedup: -0.58%  ratio: 0.99x
 
WU : PG1327_v7.wu 
AKv8c_Bb_r1846_winx86_SSE2x.exe -verb -nog :
  Elapsed 667.063 secs
      CPU 664.344 secs
AKv8c_Bb_r1846_winx86_SSE3x.exe -verb -nog :
  Elapsed 667.266 secs, speedup: -0.03%  ratio: 1.00x
      CPU 664.563 secs, speedup: -0.03%  ratio: 1.00x
 
------------ 
CPU: 
Number of processors	1
Number of cores		3 (max 4)
Specification		AMD Athlon(tm) II X3 455 Processor
Codename		Rana
Core Speed		3315.6 MHz (16.5 x 200.9 MHz)
Core Stepping		
Technology		45 nm
Stock frequency		3300 MHz
------------ 
Chipset: 
Northbridge		NVIDIA MCP61 rev. A2
Southbridge		NVIDIA MCP61 rev. A2
------------ 
RAM: 
Memory Type		DDR2
Memory Size		3072 MBytes
Memory Frequency	401.9 MHz (1:2)
Max bandwidth		PC2-6400 (400 MHz)
CAS#			5.0
RAS# to CAS#		5
RAS# Precharge		5
Cycle Time (tRAS)	18
------------ 


1493) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.41 Release Notes (Message 1418375)
Posted 20 Sep 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I unzipped an other .7z file (other/old app), and it worked.
So my 7-Zip tool work fine.

The 'old' .7z files are compressed with LZMA method
The 'new' - with LZMA2
So you need 7-Zip 9.20

http://www.7-zip.org/

1494) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Time in Berkeley (What the heck are they doing now?) (Message 1416936)
Posted 17 Sep 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Similar extensions for Chrome (in fact I use SRWare Iron)

Awesome Clock
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/awesome-clock/idbfjggljipcaepooophnehgknllgfgk

World Clocks
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/world-clocks/innfmeekncjandlanpgdmmogkcimekgo


Awesome Clock (type UTC in the 'city' search box to Add this clock):



1495) Questions and Answers : Getting started : boinc no new tasks for 5 days? (Message 1408184)
Posted 27 Aug 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
8/25/2013 11:25:35 AM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
8/25/2013 11:25:35 AM | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU
8/25/2013 11:25:59 AM | | Windows is resuming operations
8/25/2013 11:26:13 AM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
8/25/2013 11:26:13 AM | SETI@home | No tasks sent
8/25/2013 11:26:13 AM | SETI@home | No tasks are available for SETI@home Enhanced

You selected only to receive 'SETI@home Enhanced' tasks which are only resends (end-of-life, no new tasks of this kind are generated).
'SETI@home v7' is the name of the new tasks.

Make sure to select to receive other types of tasks, not only 'SETI@home Enhanced':
SETI@home Enhanced: yes
SETI@home v7: yes
AstroPulse v6: yes
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? yes
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

1496) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home v7 v7.03 (opencl_ati_cat132) and Catalyst 13.4 (Message 1405082)
Posted 19 Aug 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Monitor temperatures:
SIV - System Information Viewer (you need only siv.zip - no install, just unpack and run SIV32X.exe or SIV64X.exe , should work also on your Pentium computers - reads also motherboard sensors, not only CPU internal sensors)
http://rh-software.com/

Control temperatures:
TThrottle (set max temperature for CPU and GPU, BOINC processes will be Throttled if it is reached)
http://efmer.eu/boinc/

1497) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home v7 v7.03 (opencl_ati_cat132) and Catalyst 13.4 (Message 1405036)
Posted 19 Aug 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do you monitor temperatures of CPU and GPU?
(the 'One' that crashed may be caused by high temperature)

The 'marked as invalid' may be server glitch as the other task of the WU is still 'validation inconclusive':
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1302356833

1498) Message boards : Number crunching : (Nvidia) Driver restart only on end of V7-WU? (Message 1404882)
Posted 18 Aug 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Maybe there is something different in Windows 8

The stderr_txt at the end seems OK:
Worker preemptively acknowledging a normal exit.->
called boinc_finish
Exit Status: 0
boinc_exit(): requesting safe worker shutdown ->
boinc_exit(): received safe worker shutdown acknowledge ->
Cuda threadsafe ExitProcess() initiated, rval 0

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3118197200


I don't know if this is relevant (or changed) for Windows 8
Timeout Detection and Recovery of GPUs
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg487368.aspx


Edit:
There are some 'TDR changes in Windows 8':
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff570088(v=vs.85).aspx
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/jj676805(v=vs.85).aspx

Again I don't know if any of this is relevant to your case.

1499) Message boards : Number crunching : ERR_TOO_MANY_EXITS Spree on an otherwise fine machine. (Message 1404873)
Posted 18 Aug 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

For both questions - see for yourself.

Do you feel lag? (if so make -unroll smaller e.g. -unroll 5)
What is the GPU load? (in SIV or GPU-Z) (if low <85-90% or too unstable - free more cores or try higher -unroll 12)

1500) Message boards : Number crunching : ERR_TOO_MANY_EXITS Spree on an otherwise fine machine. (Message 1404855)
Posted 18 Aug 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have a text file in my seti directory named ap_cmdline_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI.txt

Would this be the place to put your suggestion of "-unroll 10 -ffa_block 8192 -ffa_block_fetch 4096 -sbs 256" ?

Yes, that's the file.

Did you already see the ReadMe_AstroPulse_OpenCL_ATI.txt in ...\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\docs\ for 'Available command line switches'?

1501) Message boards : Number crunching : ERR_TOO_MANY_EXITS Spree on an otherwise fine machine. (Message 1404853)
Posted 18 Aug 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The 7770 can do an MB (while running two) in an hour. You believe it should be able to run an AP in an hour? I would not have expected an AP to run that quickly.

ATIs are very effective for AP

Using AMD Radeon HD 6570 (OCed to 800/1050 which makes it ~ HD 6670)
running 2x AP tasks (<count>0.5</count>) finishes ~0% blanked task in 4 h
(so 2 AP tasks in 4 h = 2 h/task effective time)

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=4832843&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=12


My AMD Radeon HD 6570:
Max compute units: 6
Max work group size: 256
Max clock frequency: 800Mhz
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3105459210


Your AMD Radeon HD 7770 have to be (maybe) >2 times faster:
Max compute units: 10
Max work group size: 256
Max clock frequency: 1070Mhz
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3119455131

1502) Message boards : Number crunching : Google Chrome (Message 1404315)
Posted 17 Aug 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

These are the direct links to get Latest Adobe Flash Player clean offline installers:

Flash Player for Internet Explorer
http://download.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/licensing/win/install_flash_player_11_active_x.exe

Flash Player for other browsers
http://download.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/licensing/win/install_flash_player_11_plugin.exe

1503) Message boards : Number crunching : agp ati card, will either of these work with Bonic? (Message 1402202)
Posted 12 Aug 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The HD4650 does support OpenCL 1.0

I think one of the SETI apps is incompatible with HD4650 (work group size: 128)?

1504) Message boards : Number crunching : Several questions all at once about GPU processing (Message 1402191)
Posted 12 Aug 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The only outstanding issue is going into the app_info.xml and setting it up such that the 7770 runs 2, and the 8800 runs 1. I'm fairly shaky about how to do this,

It's easy to do:

Edit app_info.xml with Notepad
Ctrl+F for <count>

See if you found part about ATI and which app (astropulse_v6 or setiathome_v7)
<type>ATI</type>
<count>1</count>

Change <count>1</count> to <count>0.5</count> or <count>0.51</count> or <count>0.49</count> (the same value you used in app_config.xml)

F3 to find next <count> and do the same if about ATI (skip if for CUDA)

! Rename app_config.xml (to e.g. app_config.xml-NO) to disable it!

1505) Message boards : Number crunching : app_info.xml doesn't have useable v7 ??? (Message 1402043)
Posted 12 Aug 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

3 of your computers show many 'Aborted by user' tasks.

What gives?
Gives you 'Max tasks per day 1'
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=6819450
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=6650504

This is 'doesn't have a usable version of SETI@HOME v7'

1506) Message boards : Number crunching : Several questions all at once about GPU processing (Message 1402034)
Posted 12 Aug 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Some wrong info in this thread:

1) NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS is not Fermi (so very probably will have no gain in running 2 tasks)

2) I am adding "switch -sbs 256" to the file "mb_cmdline_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5" ?
NO, you don't add "switch -sbs 256", add only:
-sbs 256

Switches are explained in ReadMe_AstroPulse_OpenCL_ATI.txt , ReadMe_MultiBeam_OpenCL_ATI.txt , ... in ...\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\docs\

If more switches are used the line in mb_cmdline_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5.txt will look like:
-sbs 256 -period_iterations_num 10


3) ATI GPUs can run 2 AP tasks easily and with gain (new drivers need free CPU cores, I don't know how many - I use Catalyst 11.12 on XP which, as all of you know, do not need free cores)

4) Fred´s SetiPerformance can run any app with any WU
You just need to add app files and WU file (in new directory) and edit config.xml
(WUs can also be put in 'workunits' directory which in fact is full with v7 WUs)

To see how - get the (edited by me) package from this post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69136&postid=1300787#1300787

1507) Questions and Answers : Windows : Soundcard problems running SETI (Message 1401264)
Posted 10 Aug 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

What does DPC Latency Checker show (with/without SETI running):
http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml

1508) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : whats happened to all the AP work units (Message 1401259)
Posted 9 Aug 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You are using too old video driver:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5879391

I can convert 1.4.1385 to Catalyst 11.5 using this table:
http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet.htm

The minimum required is Catalyst 11.12

1509) Message boards : Number crunching : How to set the priority to crunch a WU (Message 1399593)
Posted 6 Aug 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Since APs have shorter deadline you can make them artificially run in 'high priority' (per BOINC terminology, not the processes)
by setting higher:

Switch between tasks every MMMMM minutes

Play with values 5000-20000 to see which is best.

1510) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Can i use 2? (Message 1399558)
Posted 6 Aug 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Yes, and it seems that you successfully already did that 10 minutes after your post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=9908925

Some people have much more than two:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=171379
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=8606388
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=134734

1511) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation Errors??? (Message 1398700)
Posted 4 Aug 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

All looks good, do not reset.
(you return good results)

This are not "Error Messages" and they will not disappear if you reset the project.

'Task ... exited with zero status but no 'finished' file' happens when:
- the computer clock changes up/down
- other process uses too much CPU/GPU/HDD/DVD (e.g. bad DVD disk which is hard to read, antivirus scans, games, ...)

1512) Questions and Answers : Windows : no work on project (Message 1396441)
Posted 30 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
2. started boinc and added project named seti@home,usa.

How did you added the project?
Did you select it from the list or paste the URL?

The easiest is to select it from the list:




For more info read:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Advanced_view#BOINC_Manager_Menus
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Choosing_and_joining_projects
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Project_list#SETI.40home

1513) Message boards : Number crunching : vlar running over 21hrs on cpu (Message 1394647)
Posted 25 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I also have need of some instruction on these app_info.xml files. Is it just me or are these an absolute abomination? I don't see the order there. ...


I tried to reorder it (but mind I don't use Linux) (empty lines in app_info.xml file are OK to use)
(since you don't have setiathome_enhanced tasks I used only setiathome_v7)

<app_info>

    <app>
        <name>setiathome_v7</name>
    </app>

    <file_info>
        <name>setiathome_7.01_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>

    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_v7</app_name>
        <version_num>701</version_num>
        <platform>x86_64-pc-linux-gnu</platform>
        <avg_ncpus>1.000000</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>1.000000</max_ncpus>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>setiathome_7.01_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>


    <app>
        <name>setiathome_v7</name>
    </app>

    <file_info>
        <name>setiathome_x41g_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu_cuda32</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>libcudart.so.3</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>libcufft.so.3</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>

    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_v7</app_name>
        <version_num>700</version_num>
        <platform>x86_64-pc-linux-gnu</platform>
        <plan_class>cuda32</plan_class>
        <avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>1.0</max_ncpus>
        <coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1.0</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>setiathome_x41g_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu_cuda32</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>libcudart.so.3</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>libcufft.so.3</file_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>

</app_info>


1514) Message boards : Number crunching : Long screen lags with MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_r1843 running on HD6450 (Message 1394637)
Posted 25 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

One of the reasons why I now run only AP on my AMD Radeon HD 6570 is that AP app (AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r1843.exe) causes almost no lag (and I run 2x AP tasks)
(on CPU I run only setiathome_v7 / AKv8c_Bb_r1846_winx86_SSE2x.exe)

I had the same lag problem with ATI MB v6 tasks (regardless of big numbers for -period_iterations_num) so went to the above config when installing new apps (from Lunatics_Win32_v0.41)

The lag with ATI MB shows even in offline tests (one ATI MB task, no CPU tasks = 3 free CPU cores) so "free cores" don't help.
Lag is probably caused by inability of the GPU/driver to 'pay attention' to the 2D Windows GUI/Desktop maybe because of some critical section in GPU code that takes too long.

But Raistmer assures that "There is no such long running single kernels in app (~2 seconds) so lags and driver restarts are not caused by single kernel or memory transfer but by sequence of commands."
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72035&postid=1383865#1383865

1515) Questions and Answers : Windows : Not getting any work? (Message 1394605)
Posted 25 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

There are no 'other projects' on your user page:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=1672306

Probably you used different email?

In my page you can see 'Projects in which BilBg is participating':
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=8647488

Or here 'Projects in which Eric Korpela is participating':
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=24735

1516) Questions and Answers : Windows : no work on project (Message 1394600)
Posted 25 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You did something wrong (you have to find out what or explain your steps/actions much more thoroughly)

There are no 'Computers belonging to aniruddha' at this site (which means the 'Add project -> SETI@home' was not successful):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=9903464

Do you see SETI@home on Projects tab (in Advanced View)?
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Advanced_view#The_Projects_tab

If not - try to 'Add project' SETI@home again.

1517) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Time (sec) Frequency(Hz) box is blank (Message 1394591)
Posted 25 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Intel HD Graphics?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71007
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69101

1518) Message boards : Number crunching : Need help (Message 1392889)
Posted 20 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Restart BOINC on them, do one [Update], post Event Log

1519) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC V6 Configuration (Message 1392880)
Posted 20 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

ATI GPUs are more effective on computing AP tasks than SETI v7 tasks (better do SETI v7 on CPU and use ATI GPU only for AP)

This is my Computer with the same GPU (AMD Radeon HD 6570) shown as 'AMD ATI unknown (1024MB)' by BOINC 6.10.58
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4832843

It can do setiathome_v7 on the ATI GPU no problem (using app_info.xml) but my app_info.xml is configured to do only setiathome_v7 on the CPU and only astropulse_v6 on the ATI GPU


sched-request_<project>.xml files are generated every time so not possible to edit (edits will be overwritten)

1520) Message boards : Number crunching : Unit prioritization (Message 1392020)
Posted 18 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You can force this 'Unit prioritization' by:

Switch between tasks every XYZ minutes
(play with values 5000-15000)

Depending on your habit set it locally or here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global

1521) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU processing on Linux (Ubuntu 10.04, 64-bit, BOINC 6.10.17) (Message 1391991)
Posted 18 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I did find Version 294.75 on the NVidia site, under "old drivers", but 266.58 no longer seems to be available ...

How to find really old nVidia Linux Drivers:

On the standard link:
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us

... click 'Unix Drivers' to get:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html

Find you OS (e.g. 'Linux x86_64/AMD64/EM64T') and click 'Archive' to get:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_amd64_display_archive.html


Or search in Google for:
archive nvidia driver linux site:www.nvidia.com


(I don't use Linux nor nVidia CUDA, can't recommend driver version)

1522) Message boards : Number crunching : Question about tasks remaining "completed, waiting for validation" (Message 1391982)
Posted 18 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
To me it also seems only to happen with AP's but I've got "hung" ones dating back to December 2012...

My oldest is from 24 Sep 2012
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1036247847

1523) Questions and Answers : Windows : Problems with uploads (Message 1391944)
Posted 18 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
We've had recent problems with our proxy, but that is now fixed.

Try:
<http_1_0>1</http_1_0>
Set this flag to use HTTP 1.0 instead of 1.1 (this may be needed with some proxies).

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration#Options

1524) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Automatic task updating (Message 1391930)
Posted 18 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... and my other tasks were "waiting to run" so my processor wasn't doing anything at all.

"waiting to run" can't be caused by not uploaded or not reported tasks, some setting is causing this, e.g.:
Suspend work while computer is on battery power?
Suspend work while computer is in use?
'In use' means mouse/keyboard activity in last X minutes (if X is big e.g. 600)
Suspend work if no mouse/keyboard activity in last Y minutes (set this to 'empty' --- ; if it is set to e.g. 5 the computing will stop 5 minutes after you leave the keyboard)
Suspend work when non-BOINC CPU usage is above ZZ% (I set this to 0)
Do work only between the hours of

If you see 'Waiting for memory' check also:
Memory: when computer is in use, use at most UU% of total
Memory: when computer is not in use, use at most NN% of total

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global

1525) Message boards : Number crunching : Something a bit odd here... why send me 50+ work units at once? (Message 1390561)
Posted 14 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The benchmark is done by BOINC (boinc.exe), not by the apps
BOINC can't know if there exist projects that use Integer ops
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php

I'm not sure but maybe these are some of the projects that need only Integer?:
Enigma@Home, NFS@Home, sudoku

1526) Message boards : Number crunching : Something a bit odd here... why send me 50+ work units at once? (Message 1390544)
Posted 14 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Server have anti-cheating check (to not allow several computers to pretend be only one (by using the same HostID))

Every sched_request have <rpc_seqno>
So the theory is - your second request somehow arrives at the server before your first request.
Server see <rpc_seqno> go backwards and punish the computer (for supposed cheating) by abandoning tasks.

ok, but since seti is only running on my desktop, who & how has someone gottem hold of its host id?

No other computer involved.

The theory/hypothesis is - (TCP packets of) your first request (with e.g. <rpc_seqno>1000</rpc_seqno>) is delayed for very long time (minutes) somewhere on Internet (maybe on the ISP servers) when the link in bad.
Then BOINC makes (after a few minutes) another sched_request (with <rpc_seqno>1001</rpc_seqno>) which is successful.

(BOINC increases +1 <rpc_seqno> for every sched_request - you can see this in sched_request_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml)

Then (TCP packets of) your first request (that hide somewhere on the path) are 'unlocked' and reach SETI (with <rpc_seqno>1000</rpc_seqno>)
SETI server see <rpc_seqno> is less than the one that arrived before and abandons tasks.

(You sent sched_requests in sequence: #999 #1000 #1001
SETI server receives them in sequence: #999 #1001 #1000

If #1000 was lost forever in the path this would be OK - server is happy if numbers jump up for any amount e.g. #999 #1001 #1055).
Your BOINC thinks #1000 is lost ('timeout') but #1000 become undead and arose from grave in the dark night to suck the blood of young innocent female ... tasks ;)

There is no known way to kill this problem (no silver bullet) save of better connection.
It was reported in the past: "Abandoned tasks - Ongoing issue":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70946

But if you have this issue often you may try this: "Windows TCP Settings - TCP 1323 Options, check both Window Scaling and Timestamps":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71002&postid=1343357#1343357

This (Timestamps) makes every TCP packet to have a number (not BOINC related), it may also improve your overall Internet connection 'experience'/stability (for all programs)
)

HostID is not a secret - see the last part of the links "hostid=" (and nobody used it to cheat, the server is just confused)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6803973
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4832843

1527) Message boards : Number crunching : Something a bit odd here... why send me 50+ work units at once? (Message 1390535)
Posted 14 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
SETI V7 It's a hybrid application essentially using the CPU for the floating point operations and passing the straightforward integer operations to the faster GPU.

Where did you get such wrong impression?

All apps for SETI V7 are CPU only or GPU only, there is no 'hybrid application'

I made my assumption after observing the completion of 206 SETI 7 (7.03ati) on my AMD/ATI paired machine.

The GPU is a HD 6670 so it can't do floating point operations, .....

1) SETI apps (almost) do not use integer operations (integer is used obviously for counters for loops, flags and similar, but almost 100% of computing is FP)

2) Radeon HD 6670 - "768 GFLOPS Single Precision compute power"
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/amd-radeon-hd-6000/hd-6670/Pages/amd-radeon-hd-6670-overview.aspx#2

(I have (almost) the same chip - Radeon HD 6570 overclocked to 800 MHz GPU/1050 MHz DDR3 RAM)

3) Even Radeon HD 2xxx have "GFLOPS (Single-precision)":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units#Radeon_R600_.28HD_2xxx.2C_HD_3xxx.29_Series

4) Again: All apps for SETI V7 are CPU only or GPU only, there is no 'hybrid application'
Of course GPU apps have CPU part (the process visible in Windows Task Manager) but that CPU part is only for management (to 'feed' the GPU with code and data), the CPU part do not do computations/analysis of the SETI radio data

1528) Message boards : Number crunching : NEW BOINC add-on 'SETIspirit' for SETI@home users (Message 1390381)
Posted 13 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
this is okay if you have first done a de-installation of the BOINC Manager (which will may be delete the log files in the boinc data directory) before you have installed a new BOINC Manager.

De-installation of BOINC do not touch the BOINC Data directory - all files there remain intact.
Re-installation also do not start from scratch - continues to use the existing files in BOINC Data directory.

1529) Message boards : Number crunching : Something a bit odd here... why send me 50+ work units at once? (Message 1390109)
Posted 12 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
(edit) Why would my Internet connection cause BOINC to abandon already downloaded tasks? Its not like they had timed out or anything like that or had their download interrupted.

I already said: for reason unknown exactly

Server have anti-cheating check (to not allow several computers to pretend be only one (by using the same HostID))

Every sched_request have <rpc_seqno>
So the theory is - your second request somehow arrives at the server before your first request.
Server see <rpc_seqno> go backwards and punish the computer (for supposed cheating) by abandoning tasks.

1530) Message boards : Number crunching : Something a bit odd here... why send me 50+ work units at once? (Message 1390097)
Posted 12 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
On an average day, the gpu might complete 1 or 2 tasks & the cpus might complete up to 4 tasks (SETI V7)

I now can see your results (there is only one for CUDA and one for CPU)

The CUDA task finished in 16,430 s (4.5 h) so your GPU can do ~5 tasks/day (by 'day' I mean 24 h)
The CPU task finished in 39,176 s (11 h) so your (2 core) CPU can do ~4 tasks/day

This is if BOINC run tasks all the time (24/7) and computing on CPU & GPU happens while you are using the computer.
(yes, not all tasks complete in the same time)

1531) Message boards : Number crunching : Something a bit odd here... why send me 50+ work units at once? (Message 1390067)
Posted 12 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... for the abandoned tasks, I am unsure why BOINC did that, I didn't tell it to give up on those tasks ...

This happens (for still unknown reason) if you have very bad Internet connection.

(your Computers are still shown 'hidden', it takes some time (1 hour?) for the setting ('Should SETI@home show your computers on its web site? yes') to come into effect)

How much of those ~50 SETI V7 tasks are for CUDA?
Your GPU probably can do 20-30 tasks per day (?)

1532) Message boards : Number crunching : Something a bit odd here... why send me 50+ work units at once? (Message 1390062)
Posted 12 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
SETI V7 It's a hybrid application essentially using the CPU for the floating point operations and passing the straightforward integer operations to the faster GPU.

Where did you get such wrong impression?

All apps for SETI V7 are CPU only or GPU only, there is no 'hybrid application'

1533) Message boards : Number crunching : Ubuntu and Nvidia tasks (Message 1389917)
Posted 12 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

("nv280" is probably the version of Nvidia driver?)

Did you need to make some adjustments/edits to Nvidia driver Powermizer settings?
(I don't know if 'Powermizer' is the current name that Nvidia uses for this)

What mode/profile for GPU power-saving was set by default?

1534) Message boards : Number crunching : New ATI user (Message 1389910)
Posted 12 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Use this table for info and links:
http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet.htm


Catalyst 13.1 is not good, from Lunatics ReadMe.txt
"Minimum required driver:
All OpenCL applications are compiled under SDK 2.6 so minimum driver is
Catalyst 11.12 Accelerated Parallel Processing (APP) Technology Edition

GPU`s with fewer than 12 compute units like 5770/6770/7770 might experience
driver restarts with Catalyst 13.1. Please update to Catalyst 13.4
"


driver: 1.4.1734 you use now seems to be some (beta?) version between Catalyst 12.4 and 12.6
There is no official Catalyst 12.5
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/previous/Pages/radeonaiw_vista32.aspx

1535) Message boards : Number crunching : Pause work if outside temp is over xx degrees? (Message 1389733)
Posted 11 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I might even tinker with doing it myself but I would have to figure out how to get the weather info.

You can use e.g. OpenWeatherMap free weather API
http://openweathermap.org/api

Full list of sites offering Weather API is long:
http://www.programmableweb.com/apis/directory/1?apicat=Weather


Use 'Wget for Windows' to get the file:
http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/wget.htm

I tested with only this .exe (I put it in D:\WINDOWS\system32\)
http://users.ugent.be/~bpuype/wget/

With command like:
wget "http://api.openweathermap.org/data/2.5/weather?q=London&mode=xml&units=metric" -O weather.txt

Parse weather.txt to find:
<temperature value=


Use boinccmd.exe to pause BOINC (3600 s = 1 hour pause (will resume automatically after an hour))
boinccmd.exe --set_run_mode never 3600

To resume BOINC in the previous state:
boinccmd.exe --set_run_mode never 1

1536) Message boards : Number crunching : Question about my first AP error. (Message 1389426)
Posted 10 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

What is the GPU load?
If it is low % or unstable (go up/down too much) try first to free a CPU core.

1537) Message boards : Number crunching : Ubuntu and Nvidia tasks (Message 1389420)
Posted 10 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The Same Computer under Win XP has Host ID: 4354565
The GPU does the same Work in 18 minutes that needs 24 hours under Linux.

What stops you to fix the Ubuntu Nvidia Powermizer settings?
(it's not true that 'it' "needs 24 hours under Linux", see other people Linux computers)

1538) Questions and Answers : Windows : Sharing tasks on multi-boot configuration (Message 1389414)
Posted 10 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If all OSes are 32 bit - maybe it's possible.

I did this successfully in the past between XP and Vista 32 bit (and not successfully with Vista 64 bit)

You need to do RegEdit export/import of:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley\BOINC Setup]
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley\BOINC Manager]

... and/or (?) uninstall/reinstall BOINC pointing it (in every OS) to the same BOINC Data directory.

1539) Message boards : Number crunching : Ubuntu and Nvidia tasks (Message 1388837)
Posted 8 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Now it works. ... But it works very slowly ...

'very slowly' means nothing, give real time to complete the tasks and what 'angle range' are they.
CUDA have to be 'much faster' (e.g. x10 speed) compared to CPU

Edit:
You have one completed 'SETI@home v7 Anonymous platform (NVIDIA GPU)':
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3064315856

Really have too big Run time 84,087.52 (23 h)

At the start of task: 'clockRate = 1032500' (1032 MHz) but it may change during task run -
check if the GPU don't downclock or go in some power-save mode

I don't use Linux but found this (first result on Google for 'Ubuntu Nvidia power-save mode')
Nvidia Powermizer defaults to adaptive mode:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1478192

"Nvidia appears to have kindly designed a power saving mode (Powermizer) for our video cards, by clocking down the GPU"


Same GPU and same app (another user):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5643864&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=11

'Run time 2,092.58', 'clockRate = 1071500':
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3066908080

1540) Message boards : News : What's new about SETI@home v7 (Message 1388816)
Posted 8 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

'Сигналите'/задачите не се пращат избирателно:
- SETI@home няма контрол върху телескопа
- телескопа в Arecibo може да вижда само част от небето
http://seti.berkeley.edu/setiathome/glossary/skymaps

- компютъра получава някоя от задачите налични в момента (няма никакъв начин за избор и не се предвижда да има)

В момента се изпращат задачи от 2008-2012 ('Splitter status' колона 'File name'):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html

(обичайно пиша на английски, но този път за разнообразие на български)

1541) Questions and Answers : Windows : AP error while computing (Message 1388804)
Posted 8 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Use ATI GPU no

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

This will stop getting new tasks for ATI (remember to enable it again if you change the GPU)

1542) Questions and Answers : Windows : can't get it back to screen-saver only (Message 1388801)
Posted 8 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... and I don't recall it ever being "Do work while computer is in use?"

On web 'Computing preferences' it is:
Suspend work while computer is in use?
Suspend GPU work while computer is in use?

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global


In 'Local preferences' it is:
Computing allowed:
[v] While computer is in use
[ ] Use GPU while computer is in use

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Local_preferences

1543) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Automatic task updating (Message 1388783)
Posted 8 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... to find that for half the day ...

That's your problem (report may happen in a seconds or (at Max) after a day)
(not reported tasks do Not prevent new tasks to be downloaded, there have to be another problem)

Some threads/posts about that (the older is from 2006):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71541&postid=1363228#1363228
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67935&postid=1227429#1227429
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70298&postid=1315704#1315704

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=51362&postid=853000#853000
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=46718&postid=745537#745537
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=31922&postid=340839#340839



... but instead it's just been sitting there with nothing to do. :/

If that is really what you see (no tasks to work on):
- check/change your WU cache settings:

Maintain enough tasks to keep busy for at least XX days (make this 2-5 days)
... and up to an additional YY days (make this 0.1 days)

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global


Since your Computers are hidden we can't see if there are many error tasks which may also be the reason why no new tasks are given to you (this 'ban' expires (at the servers) after a day)

1544) Message boards : Number crunching : Help with Computing Errors (Message 1388498)
Posted 7 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Is this your CPU
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K7/AMD-Sempron%202800+%20-%20SDA2800DUT3D%20(SDA2800BOX).html

Did you check for overheating?

This CPU do not have internal sensor but SIV have to show any motherboard sensor:
http://www.rh-software.com/

It will show also CPU MHz, RAM timings, voltages, ...
See if all is at the specifications (not overclocked, not undervolted, ...)

1545) Message boards : Number crunching : Help with Computing Errors (Message 1387981)
Posted 5 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?language=1&view=98

1546) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Graphic vs. background (Message 1387979)
Posted 5 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The 'graphic' process (setigraphics_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe) only shows (part of) what is going on, it does not compute.
So the screensaver/graphic don't need to run at all, it only slows the computations done by the 'real' process (setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe).

1547) Questions and Answers : Windows : GPU and CPU on same project (Message 1387966)
Posted 5 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It says : Waiting to run (0.00166 CPU's + NVIDIA GPU) (Scheduler wait: CuFFT Plan Failer, temporary exit)

Known problem with NVIDIA driver: 320.18
Update to 320.49

1548) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Updated my optimized app now all gpu wu's are "Validation inconclusive" then "Invalid" (Message 1387963)
Posted 5 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You have 2 problem Computers:

1) http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6625355

NVIDIA driver 320.18 have bugs (especially for 2 GPU systems):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6625355&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=

Update to 320.49
http://www.nvidia.com/object/win8-win7-winvista-32bit-320.49-whql-driver.html
http://www.filehippo.com/download_nvidia_forceware_vista/


2) http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6716264

Again driver problem:
AMD/ATI driver 1.4.1589 (= Catalyst 11.10) is old

The minimum needed for current SETI apps is Catalyst 11.12

Use this table for info and links:
http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet.htm

! If the laptop is 'special' you may need drivers from the laptop manufacturer and not from AMD/ATI


(There may be other problems but it will be unclear until the drivers are updated)


P.S.
You didn't read the docs:
In:
...\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\docs\

Read:
Lunatics ReadMe.txt

"ATI MB apps - r1843; AP apps - r1843
.....
Minimum required driver:
All OpenCL applications are compiled under SDK 2.6 so minimum driver is
Catalyst 11.12 Accelerated Parallel Processing (APP) Technology Edition
"

1549) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : No Usable GPU Found (Message 1386962)
Posted 3 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Okay, So I see it is the RDP session that causes the pause while in session. I could work around that ...

The only 'work around' is to not use RDP (which uses/switches to something like simple VGA drivers by Microsoft)

I didn't used any flavour of VNC, I like TeamViewer:
http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx


Everything will be OK if you stop using Microsoft RDP and start using anything different for the same purpose.

1550) Message boards : Number crunching : Need help (Message 1386340)
Posted 1 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Look here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

You probably only have:
SETI@home Enhanced: yes

If it's the case just set all applications to 'yes' and you will get new tasks:

SETI@home v7: yes
AstroPulse v6: yes
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? yes

1551) Questions and Answers : Wish list : IDLE PREFERENCES (Message 1386333)
Posted 1 Jul 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Are you sure that the GPU app really exits?
(the GPU app process will vanish in Windows Task Manager, also GPU load will drop near 0%)

There is a bug in BOINC API (in BOINC Manager task shown as 'Suspended' but the GPU app still do not stop and continues computing on GPU):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71581&postid=1377402#1377402

1552) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1386051)
Posted 30 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

10 minutes is usually enough to reach stable temperature.

All looks very good.

(There are 2 internal sensors for CPU and GPU parts of the chip separately - 63°C and 56°C
There is external sensor on the motherboard under the CPU/GPU package - Temp 61.0°C (60-63)

The 3 values shown as "ACPI Embedded Controller MB 61°C ACPI 62°C 62°C" are probably repeating the same sensor value (the one under the CPU/GPU)
- this is not fault of SIV as it just shows what the motherboard sensor chip reports.
If even in idle computer these values are almost the same as what is shown at the right (where now is "Temp 61.0°C (60-63)") then they represent one and the same sensor.

Pity there are no fan speed readings (is there a fan or only passive cooling?)
)


Now that all seems to work OK you may want to enable computing on one more core and see will you like it and is it still stable:
(you'll see 4 tasks: 3 CPU and 1 GPU, this may/will make CPU hotter (>63°C internal temperature) but I can't know how much exactly, just experiment to see)

On multiprocessors, use at most 99% of the processors

(I think you now have:
On multiprocessors, use at most 50% of the processors
Anything 75-99% will make BOINC start 3 CPU tasks (on your 4 core CPU)
)

1553) Message boards : Number crunching : Older Nvidia cards deprecated? (Message 1386006)
Posted 30 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The reason for the error is not the GPU 'version'

If you want to read about the reason:
"v7 cuda23 WUs getting ERR_TOO_MANY_EXITS"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71953

Some posts in the same thread:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71953&postid=1379544#1379544
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71953&postid=1383240#1383240

1554) Message boards : Number crunching : Cliese667?? (Message 1385985)
Posted 30 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Your link is probably 'invisible' from outside USA (page loads but I can't play the video)

The same:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRDfudM7Dik

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliese_667

(I didn't like the video, it is intended to 'amuse' an 'Average Joe' while he's eating his dinner)

1555) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1385941)
Posted 30 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Very interesting, nothing was indicating (in messages) that BOINC may be somehow interfering.
(maybe it's something with BOINC API and shared memory (used for communication between the apps and BOINC))


SIV64X reads temperature at 58*C

I most trust SIV
(looks like it matches SpeedFan "GPU at 57*C" (+-1 is normal due to fluctuations, rounding (57.5 may be shown 57 or 58), exact time of reading (SIV reads every 2 sec)))

I don't know what sensors are inside this CPU/GPU combo (e.g. 1 sensor for the entire chip, 2 sensors for CPU and GPU parts separately, or even more (every CPU core with own sensor))

Can you post screenshot from SIV ? (of course taken when CPU+GPU are busy with SETI)
(if you don't know how to post picture you may post the text version - use the [Copy] button in SIV (this way you can even remove some info from the text that you may consider as private before posting))

As PNG:




As text:
SIV32X - System Information Viewer V4.30 ANL--AMD64--XP::A & L

Windows XP x32 Professional (Single User)   V5.01  Build 2600  Service Pack 3  ASRock ALiveNF6G-DVI  ANL--AMD64--XP::A & L  Bulgarian (0402)  Bulgaria (359)
Workgroup BIL_WORKGROUP   00 19:37:36  2013-06-30 02:58:28     [805MHz Dual DDR2 RAM]  PCI-Express x16@1 (x16) FSB:DRAM 1:2  MCP 51°C

Resource Usage 47% [1] 18%     Current                Maximum                          DDR2 RAM CAS Latency      5
System Physical Memory         1.43GB     19.64MB      3.00GB                          RAS to CAS Delay (tRCD)   5
System Paging File             1.40GB      2.45GB      3.84GB                          RAS Precharge (tRP)       5
System File Cache              1.76GB    566.39MB      2.32GB                          Cycle Time (tRAS)        18
                                                                                       Row Cycle Time (tRC)     24 2T

Cores 3 Chips 1 HDDs     32°C                                                               DIMMs      2GB      1GB

Sensor Nuvoton W83627EHG      MB 36°C 54°C     I/O +3.34     PSU +4.94 +12.20 +5.09 +3.36 +3.12 +3.36     Fans 3,668 4,440

      Processor    FSB     59% CPU Utilisation Volts  Temp  Power   APIC  Socket AM3 PGA-941    Athlon II X3 455 (Rana) [BL-C3]
CPU-0 3.32GHz x16.5 201MHz U 34%  K 27%        1.45   49°C  36.25   0.0   Technology 45nm  x64  Family 16  Model 5 (05)  Stepping 3  Brand 1.7.6.55 (0)
CPU-1 3.31GHz x16.5 201MHz U 41%  K 13%        1.45         36.25   0.1   CPUs 3 Cores 3        AMD Athlon(tm) II X3 455 Processor
CPU-2 3.31GHz x16.5 201MHz U 34%  K 30%        1.45         36.25   0.2   L1 Code Cache          2-way 64-byte  3 x 64KB   Core 1.47 volts
      Memory       GPU     94% GPU Utilisation                      Fans  L1 Data Cache          2-way 64-byte  3 x 64KB   Temp 54.5°C (44-57)
GPU-0 1.05GHz P2   800MHz  Activity 94%        1.06   55°C          15%   L2 Unified Cache      16-way 64-byte  3 x 512KB  Fan  4,440 RPM
                                                                          [Cache-0 Latency]     [MMX+ 3D!+ SSE3 XD]        HT Link 1.00GHz

[  OK ]  [ Copy]  [Windows] [Machine]  [Sensors] [USB Bus] [Network] [ SPD ]   [Volumes] [Modems]  [PCI Bus] [About]  [ Help]

1556) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1385740)
Posted 29 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Never get anything from CNet (they wrap the original installers of any free program with their installer pushing adware!)

I think you already have/used SIV but refuse to give values from it:
http://www.rh-software.com/
http://www.rh-software.com/downloads/siv.zip

I don't trust very much SpeedFan as it gives wrong names to sensors (what is shown as GPU may be e.g. the chipset)

Don't "assume the GPU-Z is faulty"
Does the reading form GPU-Z correspond (is the same) as in "GPU Caps Viewer" and SIV?

This is yet another program (click 'Sensors'):
http://www.hwinfo.com/

And yet another
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

(and there are even more)

If all they (made by different programmers) show the same and SpeedFan shows very different value - guess what I will trust.

For GPU-Z the first link in Google is correct:
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

1557) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1385728)
Posted 29 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

After you stop using the GPU for BOINC: "Use GPU never" from Activity menu
you may do some other controlled test (to see if there are general problems with cooling and stability):

Get GPU Caps Viewer (Zip archive)
http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/

Extract the Zip
Run GpuCapsViewer.exe

It will just show some info like GPU-Z

Now start SIV and/or GPU-Z to monitor GPU load and Temperature all the time.
(GPU Caps Viewer shows those also but it's good to have 'second opinion' by other utility)

Next tests can be aborted at any time by <Esc>

At the bottom of GPU Caps Viewer there are 'demos' (they are the tests I'm talking about)
At the right are OpenCL demos - run any/all of them with GPU in name, e.g.:
"CL GPU - 4D Quaternion Julia Set"
(if you run the same demos but with CPU in name they will run slower and will load/heat more the CPU instead of GPU)

At the left are OpenGL demos - run any/all of them.
! Be careful with "GL 2.1 - Furry Cube" - it heats most, be ready to abort it!


At all times monitor the Temperatures
If you see more than 80-85°C - abort the tests

1558) Questions and Answers : Windows : AP error while computing (Message 1385698)
Posted 29 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Should I go into my preferences and just disable the GPU?

Yes
There are problems with this app for older GPUs (this app is known as CAL/Brook/Hybrid)

Even if they fix the app the amount of GPU memory (256MB) may be a problem.
And even if everything will work OK only ~20% of the GPU will be used (by design)
(the rest 80% of the computations will be on the CPU)

1559) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1385693)
Posted 29 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm not sure if the GPU Temperature is relevant or not but it is about 103* C.

Uh-oh!
Stop using the GPU immediately!
(From Activity menu in BOINC)

I don't think that any GPU can run reliably at 103°C (unless it is 103°F ?)
It is dangerous for the chip.

We didn't know it is so high until now.
Earlier I asked:
"Check in SIV what are the Temperatures of CPU and GPU during the computations."
Your answer was "GPU is at 54* C":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72035&postid=1383702#1383702


This page say:
Maximum operating temperature ? 100°C
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bulldozer/AMD-A10-Series%20A10-4600M.html

(100°C is for the CPU but in your case CPU+GPU are on the same chip)

1560) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1385649)
Posted 29 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I assume Memory in task manager means GPU.

Of course not.

(I don't know if I have to explain this:
GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) is the chip used in video cards.
In your case of AMD A10-4600M APU the GPU is inside the CPU package ('integrated graphics'):
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bulldozer/AMD-A10-Series%20A10-4600M.html
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=6472&review=amd+trinity+apu+a10&p=2
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Trinity-in-Review-AMD-A10-4600M-APU.74852.0.html
)

To see GPU load/usage/utilisation % (term differs depending on the author of the program)
use any of: SIV, GPU-Z, GPU Caps Viewer, MSI Afterburner, EVGA Precision, ...


I seem to have three tasks running at the same time now (which is weird since when I started I could only run one). Two are 7.00 and are running fine using about 50% total (25% each) of CPU and 60 MB (29.9 MB each) of Memory.

We can't know what you mean by "when I started"
Is it when you started back on 20 Oct 2006 using Intel Celeron M processor 1.50GHz ?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=2791839

Or is it when you first started using BOINC on this laptop:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6973921

In normal circumstances on 'this laptop' you have to see 5 tasks: 4 CPU and 1 GPU
But if you use:
"To free 1 CPU core:
On multiprocessors, use at most 99% of the processors

To free 2 CPU cores (for your AMD A10-4600M APU "Number of processors 4"):
On multiprocessors, use at most 50% of the processors

... less CPU tasks will run.
(so probably you "use at most 50% of the processors" to see 2 CPU and 1 GPU tasks running)

"7.00" is not telling us much.
I had to check in AKv8c_AVX.aistub to see <version_num>700</version_num>
and in MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi.aistub to see <version_num>703</version_num>
to (possibly) know what that means.

As already discussed:
To check which app you really run:
- in Windows Task Manager check which .exe is actually running.
Probably:
AKv8c_Bb_r1846_winx86_AVXx.exe
AKv8c_Bb_r1846_winx86_AVXx.exe
MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r1874.exe

1561) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1385438)
Posted 28 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Looks like the app restarted ~44 times without actual processing (no first checkpoint == no messages 'Restarted at XX.xx percent.')

Did you see usage of CPU and GPU by this app/exe ?

1562) Message boards : Number crunching : Wondering why host gets Invalid (Message 1385273)
Posted 28 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
As there is no Linux CUDA SETI@home v7 application in release status yet, it's not surprising the anonymous owner tried to make the old version do the work. At least the small percentage of tasks which overflow without Autocorrs can be assimilated, that's some useful work.
                                                                  Joe

Is "Linux 64bit Cuda Multibeam (x41g)" compatible with SETI@home v7 ?
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;sa=dlview;id=311

1563) Message boards : Number crunching : Wondering why host gets Invalid (Message 1385272)
Posted 28 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... ban the IP-address he connects from also.

:))) You are joking, right?



That part was a joke yes. He's probably on a dynamic address, so it wouldn't help much.

Had it been a static address, then it should be stopped from ever again trying to be part of this project IMO.

I don't think I have to explain to you why this is bad or useless ;)

(because I remember your responses here (so you have to know ways around IP):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64691&postid=1123474#1123474
)

You know that behind one IP can be many people (family/building/school/...)
even millions in cases like this:
http://www.securitykiss.com/
http://www.hotspotshield.com/

bad: you'll block all these people
useless: anyone can get other/new IP this way

1564) Message boards : Number crunching : Wondering why host gets Invalid (Message 1385269)
Posted 28 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... ban the IP-address he connects from also.

:))) You are joking, right?

1565) Message boards : Number crunching : Wondering why host gets Invalid (Message 1385264)
Posted 28 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Edit 2: Looking closer to his results, it seems that he manages to sneak some of them into the science database too, despite that Eric did something to stop that from happening. He even manages to get some as canonical results. Example: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1270273091

Maybe this happens only when Autocorr count: 0

1566) Message boards : Number crunching : Linux: v7 CUDA? (Message 1385263)
Posted 28 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have to do "./boinc_client restart" after log on - otherwise cuda work will not start. .. but both cards do work after a manual restart.

Find a way to delay boinc_client start (e.g. for 1-2 minutes) so the NVIDIA driver can start/load fully before BOINC attempt to detect presence of CUDA
(I don't know how to do that on Linux)


Since you have different GPUs:
Device 1: GeForce GTX 560 Ti, 1279 MiB
Device 2: GeForce GTX 660, 2047 MiB

... do you use:
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration#Options

1567) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Problems claiming old SETI classic (Message 1385259)
Posted 27 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The second of these computers crunched SETI 24/7 for seven or eight years. When I attempted to recover those credits, I got a message saying my former email address was still an active account, even though I have not used that email for two years and no longer have access to it.

You don't need access to the email service, the only things needed are the email address and your SETI@home password from back then.

Gruß,
Gundolf


@Steven Gaber

Did you use this link?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php

And you got this message?:
"This e-mail address (eeeeee@aaa.xyz) belongs to an active BOINC account, so we can't transfer its credit to your account."


Gundolf say that the message: "email address was still an active account"
means that account connected/containing this email address is BOINC account (and not 'pure' Classic SETI@home account)
which can't be merged with your current BOINC account

On the 'old computer' you need to find either email/SETI-password pair
or the <authenticator> found in account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml

After successful log-in (with browser) to the old BOINC account you may want to change the email in it. (if you try you'll see it's not immediately possible)
To change the email:
Log-in again in the new BOINC account - change the email in it from (e.g.) SteveGaber@aaa.xyz to NO-SteveGaber@aaa.xyz (any change will do: FORGET-SteveGaber@aaa.xyz)
Log-in again in the old BOINC account - change the email in it to the proper (SteveGaber@aaa.xyz)


Then stop using your current (new) BOINC account:
- in BOINC Manager:
Set [No new tasks] (select SETI@home and click the button)
Abort not started tasks
Complete and Report ([Update] SETI@home) all tasks
Remove project SETI@home

Start using your old BOINC account:
Add project SETI@home ("Yes, existing user") using email/SETI-password for the proper account.
(probably not very good explanation ;) )


But if you really have another 'pure' Classic SETI@home account
just do as I say here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71939&postid=1384289#1384289

1568) Questions and Answers : Wish list : A display with the results of every WU (Message 1385221)
Posted 27 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

There is but it's not very mature, you may want to wait for v1.07

NEW BOINC add-on 'SETIspirit' for SETI@home users:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72095

I'll wait (for v1.07) until the behaviour with stdoutdae.old is fixed:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72095&postid=1385173#1385173

1569) Questions and Answers : Wish list : IDLE PREFERENCES (Message 1385220)
Posted 27 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Only GPU apps cause a lag
So instead of <exclusive_app>filename.exe</exclusive_app> use:

<exclusive_gpu_app>important.exe</exclusive_gpu_app>

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration#Options

1570) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1385217)
Posted 27 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
And judging by the full event log it has happened repeatedly. Should I go ahead and reset the project or hold off for now?

No! This message is aimed to stock apps users.
'reset project' will delete all tasks and apps (exe, dll files) for stock apps users.
For you it will only delete all the tasks (even finished but not still reported)


P.S.
Please don't change the setup (apps, app_info.xml) before reporting the current stderr.txt to Raistmer (will help him change the app to fix issues)
(during testing you may from time to time save somewhere the stderr.txt files for different tasks - e.g. by compressing all 'slots' into slots-A.7z , slots-B.7z ...)

What Raistmer asks from you with "Could you post stderr log ?" is what you already know how to do:
- in BOINC Manager select a problem task and click [Properties]
on 'Properties of task ...' window at bottom look for 'Directory slots/0' <- note the number

Now go to:
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\slots\

... and go into the slot number (subdirectory) you already know from 'Properties of task ...'

Open the stderr.txt and look at the messages.
If not very long - post it here (if long - you already know where and how ;) )


PPS:
To make any link clickable - select/mark the full line/URL and click the [URL] button above (when in 'Post to thread' page):

If you press [Quote] under my post you will see the difference between the 2 lines:
http://pastebin.com/z4ntPU8g
http://pastebin.com/z4ntPU8g

1571) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI Radeon versus Nvidia for new system (Message 1385205)
Posted 27 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Yes, I tried that - it appears if HDMI is used for the incoming signal the display won't fill the screen without help.

Thanks!

Try this place:
(of course your 'big-random-number' may/will be different but it is somewhere under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\)

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{A91D0882-D9F9-409A-89D0-FED0D35A26EF}\0000]
"TVEnableOverscan"=dword:00000001


Or use RegScanner to find (in one list) all the places in Registry which have TVEnableOverscan
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/regscanner.html

1572) Message boards : Number crunching : NEW BOINC add-on 'SETIspirit' for SETI@home users (Message 1385194)
Posted 27 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thanks for your thoughts and suggestions. I'll change the stdoutdae.old issue that SETIspirit will handle this in the manner the user wants.

You may combine A) and C) :

Give SETIspirit user a choice in Settings:

What do you want SETIspirit to do with stdoutdae.old (BOINC file) after appending it to stdoutdae.archiv (SETIspirit file)?
( ) Delete stdoutdae.old
( ) Rename stdoutdae.old to stdoutdae_{date}_{time}.old
(*) Don't touch stdoutdae.old (SETIspirit will remember that the file was already appended/used by its first line)

1573) Message boards : Number crunching : NEW BOINC add-on 'SETIspirit' for SETI@home users (Message 1385177)
Posted 27 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
As a result of this bugs the SETIspirit debug logfile...

C:\Users\<Your Username>\AppData\Roaming\SETIspirit\debug.log

is may be grown into a large file. You can safely delete the debug file from your harddisk (please quit SETIspirit first), it will be automatically re-created the next time SETIspirit starts.

Better if SETIspirit (in next version) will take care of this by itself:
On every start of SETIspirit (and/or in regular intervals 1-24 h) check the 'age' of debug.log
If it's older (creation time) than 1 day - rename it (e.g. to debug_{date}_{time}.log)

Delete the 'very old' debug_{date}_{time}.log files after a period (user settable?) of 7-30 days
(i.e. if any debug*.log file is older than 7-30 days - delete it)

1574) Message boards : Number crunching : NEW BOINC add-on 'SETIspirit' for SETI@home users (Message 1385173)
Posted 27 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
1) Where is the file stdoutdae.archiv created?
C:\Users\<Your Username>\AppData\Roaming\SETIspirit\stdoutdae.archiv

On Windows XP this will be probably:
C:\Documents and Settings\<Your Username>\Application Data\SETIspirit\stdoutdae.archiv

Or in generic form (will this work on any Windows?):
%APPDATA%\SETIspirit\stdoutdae.archiv

Or will it be here?:
C:\Documents and Settings\<Your Username>\Local Settings\Application Data\SETIspirit\stdoutdae.archiv

Do you show this directory (%APPDATA%\SETIspirit\) somewhere in Settings?
(With option to change it? With button to easy open it?)


SETIspirit is automatically archiving the stdoutdae.old file by appending it to stdoutdae.archiv and deleting the stdoutdae.old file

a) SETIspirit is opening any files read-only and is doing this ALWAYS without locking (non exclusive access only)

Don't you think the above two slightly contradict?
You are careful to not affect BOINC operations and files but you delete the stdoutdae.old (probably you do this to avoid adding it again and again to stdoutdae.archiv)
(Yes, BOINC replaces stdoutdae.old but only after stdoutdae.txt grows to the <max_stdout_file_size>)

We often tell users: "If you restarted BOINC the previous messages can be found in stdoutdae.txt and stdoutdae.old"
If BOINC just replaced stdoutdae.old and SETIspirit just deleted it the user is left with only a very small stdoutdae.txt to look in.

Suggestions how to avoid this:

A) Give SETIspirit user a choice in Settings:
What do you want SETIspirit to do with stdoutdae.old (BOINC file) after appending it to stdoutdae.archiv (SETIspirit file)?
( ) Delete stdoutdae.old
(*) Rename stdoutdae.old to stdoutdae_{date}_{time}.old

(for {date}_{time} the user format can't be used as delimiters like "/" ":" make the filename invalid.
Good format may be like: 2013-06-27_13-52-13
The {date}_{time} have to be the stdoutdae.old file modification date/time and not the current date/time
)

I think the default have to be 'Rename' but you may ask user (at installation/first start/first usage of stdoutdae.old)


or B) After appending it to stdoutdae.archiv add a 'signature' line at the end of stdoutdae.old to mark it 'already used' (the bad thing is this changes both the file and its modification date/time), e.g.:
SETIspirit appended this file to stdoutdae.archiv on 2013-06-27 13-52-13 {{SETIspirit}}


or C) Remember some properties of the last appended stdoutdae.old like:
Exact size (bytes) of stdoutdae.old (it is slightly different every time)
Modification date/time
Calculate some kind of checksum of stdoutdae.old (e.g. MD5 or just CRC32)
Remember the first line (or first 10-100 lines) of stdoutdae.old (it is different every time as it have date/time):
28-Apr-2013 01:50:02 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks

1575) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1384866)
Posted 26 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Anyway I just got a Notice saying "File referenced in app_info.xml does not exist: MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r1874.exe"

Then it's clear what to do (you may guess yourself from the message):
Check that MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r1874.exe exist (in the same dir where app_info.xml is)

If not:
Exit BOINC
Again extract all files from MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r1874_OCL_SYNCHED.7z and copy them to C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\
Start BOINC

(make/keep copy somewhere of your current app_info.xml for reference, it is probably OK (post it for us to see), just the .exe file is missing)

After you see no more "File referenced .... does not exist" messages
check (in Windows Task Manager) that MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r1874.exe really is in memory (and not some older .exe)
Then Reboot the computer to start ATI driver clean


The files may/will 'vanish' because of this:
"Then it didn't run properly so I reran Lunatics ..."
Lunatics installer moves many files (*.exe *.dll *.bin ...) to oldApp_backup
before putting/extracting its 'new' files

(if you now have 7-Zip you may open with it Lunatics_Win64_v0.41_setup.exe
and see what files are inside and even extract them)

1576) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1384830)
Posted 26 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
OK. I did all that and did Option B. Then it didn't run properly ...

"didn't run properly" may mean many things (e.g. error messages in Event Log)

Most probably you copy/pasted spaces around the name.
After 'Option B' the lines should look like:
<name>MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r1874.exe</name>
<file_name>MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r1874.exe</file_name>
(total of 9 lines will change)

... and not any of these:
<name> MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r1874.exe</name>
<file_name>MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r1874.exe </file_name>
<name> MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r1874.exe </name>
<file_name>MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r1874.ex</file_name>
<name>MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r1874</name>


If you are in doubt - after the edit post your app_info.xml
Also (when BOINC run with the new edited app_info.xml) look in Event Log for 'strange' error messages.

And of course "didn't run properly" may mean this app (r1874) itself may be broken (it is test/beta build - new feature added)
Clarify what you mean by "didn't run properly" ...

1577) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1384807)
Posted 26 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

OK, if Raistmer do not mind I will elaborate on his instructions ;)

- You may skip for now changing TdrDelay, try this 'r1874_OCL_SYNCHED' build first -

! Upload and Report all finished tasks ([Update] project)
Exit BOINC (check in Windows Task Manager that boinc.exe 'vanishes' from memory)

In 'project folder':
Delete: (or move to some other folder)
MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi.aistub

Extract all files from MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r1874_OCL_SYNCHED.7z and copy them to:
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\
(this above directory is what we call 'the project folder')

* You will need WinRAR or the free 7-Zip to uncompress .7z (I use both WinRAR and 7-Zip):
http://www.7-zip.org/

* in fact not all the files need to be copied but it's easier for us to explain
* for some of the files you will get 'overwrite warning' - allow the overwrite (files in this .7z are either the same (e.g. libfftw3f-3.dll) or newer)


Read the full post before next step:

Option A - In 'project folder' find and run this file:
aimerge.cmd

(It will create new app_info.xml from all *.aistub files)

You may lose some tasks of type 'opencl_ati5_sah' (that is why 'Upload and Report all finished tasks' before any changes)
because this new .aistub have only these inside:
<plan_class>ati_opencl_sah</plan_class>
<plan_class>opencl_ati_sah</plan_class>

(with Option A in effect will be: mb_cmdline_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5.txt)


Option B - Or instead of running aimerge.cmd you can "edit your app_info.xml file for that":

Open app_info.xml with Notepad

Press Ctrl+H
Find what: MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_r1843.exe
Replace with: MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r1874.exe
[Replace All]

Save app_info.xml

(with Option B in effect will be: mb_cmdline_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi.txt)


Now you can start BOINC

1578) Message boards : Number crunching : NEW BOINC add-on 'SETIspirit' for SETI@home users (Message 1384803)
Posted 26 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

After you explained it I take your word for it, no need for me to test.

Other questions:

1) Where is the file stdoutdae.archiv created?
("SETIspirit is automatically archiving the stdoutdae.old file by appending it to stdoutdae.archiv and deleting the stdoutdae.old file")

I have 13 copies (2010-2013, 48 MB) of stdoutdae.old files in a .rar (I archive them manually)
If I decide to install SETIspirit I may concatenate them in stdoutdae.archiv
If I put this 48 MB big stdoutdae.archiv file in the right place will this have any effect?
(I don't know what info SETIspirit extracts from stdoutdae.*)


- It will be good to document somewhere which BOINC files SETIspirit reads, e.g.:
stdoutdae.*
client_state.xml
job_log_setiathome.berkeley.edu.txt
statistics_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml
...


2) One user (Igogo - the author of 'BOINC Monitor' Gadget (which in .exe form contains/downloads/installs adware)) claims that:
"Doesn't work for me. After installing I lost ALL my GPU WUs (computation error). Communication deferred for 24hrs"
"I don't know what wrong in SETIspirit but after install it my BOINC client works wrong. No run GPU tasks (computation error). No run V7 - no files. I must remove BOINC and install it again."
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72062&postid=1383826#1383826

The only his Computer with GPU is:
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 (2047MB) driver: 320.18
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6753440
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6753440&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=


The reason for his crashed tasks looks completely different (not SETIspirit related, maybe memory corruption or similar temporary glitch)
but: are you sure that when SETIspirit opens any BOINC files it (SETIspirit) doesn't lock them? (e.g. if some flag in some call is not set correctly)

His 'AstroPulse v6 Anonymous platform (CPU)' tasks show:
"ERROR: both checkpoint files are damaged, aborting task"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3048926392
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3048932537

1579) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : EVGA GeForce GT 610 2GB DDR3 but missing CUDA - any help? (Message 1384776)
Posted 26 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Where did you get the driver?
You need driver from NVIDIA or EVGA, not from Microsoft/Windows
(Microsoft deliberately removes certain parts from video drivers)


Also it seems there is a new problem with NVIDIA driver 320.18: Scheduler Wait
(you may need older driver)

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72056
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72079

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72077
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72083


But there is new post by Claggy:
"The latest 320.49 drivers fix the 320.00/.14/.18 device memory allocation issue on mixed Nvidia/ATI hosts:"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72056&postid=1384670#1384670

1580) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1384767)
Posted 26 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Stuck = driver restart on this case.

Try to incease TDR limit in windows registry.
Try to remove -hp
Will driver restarts continue ?

I think I see some pattern:
The VHAR tasks compute OK:
WU true angle range is : 1.476699
WU true angle range is : 2.587602
WU true angle range is : 2.587602
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6973921&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=11

But Normal AR tasks hang:
WU true angle range is : 0.425506
http://pastebin.com/z4ntPU8g


You know what part in the algorithm kicks-in over/under particular angle range.

1581) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1384758)
Posted 26 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Edit2: OK apparently I can't even find where this TdrLevel: REG_DWORD is in Windows 8. The page was for Vista maybe it was renamed? I tried to Run the "HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\GraphicsDrivers" but it couldn't be found also tried searching for it and couldn't find it either.

What means "I tried to Run"?
This is not a command you can "Run"

This is place in the registry, not some folder on the disk.
To go there we use RegEdit (if you are not familiar with it - don't play with RegEdit, there is no 'Undo')
(the so called 'registry' is in fact stored in several files on the disk, but to see inside and manipulate the contents of those files you need some special tool like RegEdit)

(and I will prefer to use TdrDelay instead of TdrLevel 0)


TdrDelay value do not exist in the registry, it have to be created.
(you can check by starting RegEdit, navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\GraphicsDrivers and see if at the right there is no TdrDelay)

To create TdrDelay value (without using RegEdit manually):
Paste the following (blue) text in Notepad and save it:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\GraphicsDrivers]
"TdrDelay"=dword:00000005


Rename the .txt file to .reg (my file now have the name TdrDelay.reg)
Run (double-click) the TdrDelay.reg file (there will be prompt "Are you sure ...")
I think you need to Reboot to make any change to TdrDelay in effect.


"TdrDelay"=dword:00000005 means 5 seconds

You can change it but know the number is in Hex, e.g.
"TdrDelay"=dword:00000002 means 2 seconds
"TdrDelay"=dword:00000009 means 9 seconds
"TdrDelay"=dword:0000000A means 10 seconds
"TdrDelay"=dword:00000010 means 16 seconds

! Never make it 00000000 (zero)!


Now you may ask: "How do I remove TdrDelay that I added in the registry? (so that Windows will use its default)"

I use this way:
Copy the file TdrDelay.reg
Rename the copy to TdrDelay-NO.reg
Edit TdrDelay-NO.reg
Change the relevant line to:
"TdrDelay"=-

(just a 'minus sign' after =)
Save TdrDelay-NO.reg and Run (double-click) it

(TdrDelay will be removed from the registry despite the prompt/warning will still be "Are you sure you want to add the information in ...\TdrDelay-NO.reg to the registry?")

1582) Message boards : Number crunching : NEW BOINC add-on 'SETIspirit' for SETI@home users (Message 1384508)
Posted 25 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Why there are 'password-protected files' in the installer?
What they contain?





Since DrWeb reports 'BACKDOOR.Trojan':
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/eb9ebfea0029558cdfce17f6122e46c91d88861e7da31687fabf3edf2b7046eb/analysis/

... you may want to report 'False detection' to them here:
https://vms.drweb.com/sendvirus/?lng=en

1583) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1384478)
Posted 25 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This is the -hp that you had me add earlier correct (mb_cmdline_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi.txt)?

Yes
(in fact not me but Raistmer 'had you add' the mb_cmdline options)


I did that and still have the issue.

? But you have/had several OK completed tasks:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6973921&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=11

Edit: Sorry, all the 'SETI@home v7 Anonymous platform (ATI GPU)' valid tasks vanished seconds after I posted (that is normal - they are removed from the list ~24 h after the validation, you had 5-6 OK ATI tasks)

Did you only started having the problem again only after you removed -hp ?


I only have tasks that get stuck at 20% right now...

You may have only 3 at the moment:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6973921&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1&appid=11


... and I've tried updating the Project to get more and don't receive them ...

BOINC do not ask for more work from a project if you have [Suspend] any task for that project.
(and you can see that in Event Log: 'Not reporting or requesting tasks')

***

I wonder what is written in stderr.txt for a stuck task.

To see:
in BOINC Manager select a stuck task and click [Properties]
on 'Properties of task ...' window at bottom look for 'Directory slots/0' <- note the number

Now go to:
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\slots\

... and go into the slot number (subdirectory) you already know from 'Properties of task ...'

Open the stderr.txt and look at the messages.
If not very long - post it here (if long - you already know where and how ;) )

1584) Questions and Answers : Windows : I only want to get Cuda50 wus (Message 1384424)
Posted 25 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I don't see why 'it errors with the last frontslash', look in client_state.xml

<project>
<master_url>http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/</master_url>
<project_name>SETI@home</project_name>


But now I checked the wiki and only this is supported:
<exclude_gpu>
   <url>project_URL</url>
   [<device_num>N</device_num>]
   [<type>NVIDIA|ATI|intel_gpu</type>]
   [<app>appname</app>]
</exclude_gpu>


http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration#Options

So these can't be used:
<version_num>700</version_num>
<plan_class>cuda32</plan_class>


P.S.
But what you want is easy done if you decide to use the 'Lunatics Installer'
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71867&postid=1375943#1375943
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71866&postid=1375941#1375941

1585) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1384421)
Posted 25 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
In Task Manager MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_r1843.exe (the non HD5 one) shows up when I run a task.

Try to remove -hp from command line options (and leave other options there).

I think Raistmer want you to try this for two reasons:
- less lag for you (when GPU task runs when you use the computer)
- to see if the app will still run OK without -hp


with -hp the app .exe runs as 'high priority' process
without -hp the app .exe runs as 'below normal priority' process

1586) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Merge Accounts (Message 1384289)
Posted 24 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... but I can't remember which email address I used.

The only way is to try any/all email addresses you can think of here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php

(if the email address is wrong you will get error message, if by chance it is right the merge may happen)

1587) Questions and Answers : Windows : I only want to get Cuda50 wus (Message 1384285)
Posted 24 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I think this line is bad, have to be:
<url>http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/</url>

1588) Questions and Answers : Windows : Just use a single gpu (Message 1384283)
Posted 24 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

For me the question is unclear:
You want to have 2 GPUs in a singe system and only do SETI work on one of them?
You want to have 2 GPUs in a singe system and only use one of the GPUs for BOINC (Any project: MilkyWay@home + SETI@home + ... only on one of the GPUs)?

You want to have 1 GPU in the system and only use the GPU (and not CPU) to do SETI work?
You want to have 1 GPU in the system and only use the GPU (and not CPU) for BOINC (Any project: MilkyWay@home + SETI@home + ... only on the GPU and not CPU)?
...

All of the above (and more) is possible but accomplished by different settings.
So state what you really mean?

1589) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1384256)
Posted 24 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

This is your first task (finished OK) after you 're-run Lunatics installer and chose non-HD5 app' (MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_r1843.exe):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3047300762

(non-HD5 app shows: Build features: SETI7 Non-graphics OpenCL OCL_CHIRP3 FFTW AMD specific USE_SSE x86
the HD5 app shows: Build features: SETI7 Non-graphics OpenCL USE_OPENCL_HD5xxx OCL_ZERO_COPY OCL_CHIRP3 FFTW AMD specific USE_SSE x86
)

You used:
-period_iterations_num 40 -sbs 128 -hp


Number of period iterations for PulseFind set to:40
Maximum single buffer size set to:128MB
Priority of worker thread raised successfully
Priority of process adjusted successfully, high priority class used

(I know this is your first task with this app as it shows:
"WARNING: can't open binary kernel file ......, continue with recompile..."
Next tasks do not (and will not) show this 'WARNING' as the binary kernel file compile is already done (and some .bin files are now saved next to the app .exe)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3047300764
)

***

To check which app you really run:
- in Windows Task Manager check which .exe is actually running:
MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_r1843.exe
MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r1843.exe

- Go to:
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\

Open with Notepad the file app_info.xml
Ctrl+F and paste one of these strings to Find:
MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_r1843.exe
MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r1843.exe

(there have to be only the first, the second will/have to give 'Cannot find "MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r1843.exe"')

***

What is shown in BOINC Manager is not really definitive (do not show which app/exe you really run), it depends on lines in app_info.xml as:
<plan_class>opencl_ati5_sah</plan_class>
<plan_class>opencl_ati_sah</plan_class>
<plan_class>opencl_ati_cat132</plan_class>
<plan_class>opencl_ati5_cat132</plan_class>

(in BOINC Manager you may see any of these irrelevant of what you really run: the 'HD5' or 'non-HD5' app )

1590) Message boards : Number crunching : v7 issues on very old cruncher (Message 1383840)
Posted 23 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Well, I can report that KernelEx gets 9x back in the game. :-)

One other thing I had to do was stick a copy of psapi.dll in the project directory.

I have KernelEx installed for years but last month the computer is OFF (hot weather here)
I may try to do v7 on it so I better ask:

Where did you get psapi.dll (C:\Windows\System ?) and what it is for (on XP it say: 'Process Status Helper')?
(did you check for dependency or some error message gives a hint about psapi.dll)

If psapi.dll is in C:\Windows\System why it need to be in the project directory?
Or you get it from other computer from:
Windows NT/2000 - C:\WINNT\System32
Windows XP, Vista, 7 - C:\Windows\System32
... and put it in the project directory on Windows 98 computer?

Do you use setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe
Do you use the original/real libfftw3f-3-3_upx.dll or renamed libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll

Our 'brother' Computers - Your and mine (both K6 family, my is K6-2+/500):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=882512
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=3412467

1591) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Schedular wait: Cuda runtime, memory related failure, threadsafe temporary exit. (Message 1383824)
Posted 23 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

OK, I'll make a 'vicious circle':
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72077&postid=1383417#1383417

1592) Questions and Answers : Windows : NVIDIA driver, the newest version, dose not worak (Message 1383822)
Posted 23 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Then tell him "the solution" ;)

And yet another user using NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT (1023MB) driver: 320.18
reports "Scheduler wait: CUDA runtime, memory related failure, threadsafe temporary exit"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72083
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4026476

1593) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1383819)
Posted 23 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Is this connected with the problem here? (and you want to make calls shorter by -period_iterations_num 40)

Timeout Detection and Recovery of GPUs
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg487368.aspx

TdrDelay: REG_DWORD. The number of seconds that the GPU is allowed to delay the preempt request from the scheduler. This is effectively the timeout threshold. The default value is 2

1594) Questions and Answers : Windows : NVIDIA driver, the newest version, dose not worak (Message 1383806)
Posted 23 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Please tell me the solution.

Read the first 2 links in my previous post.
Ask there (at those threads) as much more knowledgeable people read and post in 'Number crunching' forum.

Why did you go to 320.18 if Claggy say:
"I would downgrade your Nvidia drivers to the 314.22 drivers, I had the same problem when I tried running 320.xx Cuda5.5 drivers on my mixed Nvidia/ATI host."

(Yes, you don't have ATI but the advice to use 314.22 instead of 320.xx may still apply to you.
Never think that the latest driver is the best (proven by numerous bad driver versions in the past for both Nvidia and ATI)
)

Don't ask here again, post your question in 'Number crunching' ...

1595) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1383803)
Posted 23 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

@Raistmer
Do you think that running with -v 2 will give you some hint or a special debug build is needed?

I downloaded one of the failed WUs of TJ13:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3021008523

Run it successfully (my GPU needed 26 minutes to reach and pass 20% progress)
I used this line in mb_cmdline.txt
-period_iterations_num 40 -sbs 128 -v 3

(-hp is causing too much lag for me so I omitted it; And (unfortunately for me) -v 3 == -v 2
(I was trying to cheat with undocumented feature ;) which works for some other apps)
)

The results:
http://pastebin.com/qb2G0P77

1596) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1383797)
Posted 23 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I've narrowed it down to having issues with tasks that are Application SETI@home v7 7.03 (opencl_ati_sah)

Yes, we know that from the beginning but why this happens on your computer is still unknown.


SpeedFan says that the HD1 is currently at 39* C and GPU is at 54* C

HD1 is probably the hard disk temperature which is irrelevant to this problem
(39°C is in the safe range according to Google (in 2007):
http://research.google.com/pubs/pub32774.html
PDF: http://research.google.com/archive/disk_failures.pdf
)

GPU at 54°C is also good (if measured during the GPU task progress (while GPU load in SIV was high), not after it hang at 20%)
Since the GPU is in the same package (chip) with CPU I suppose the CPU temperature is not much different (you didn't say what SIV shows about it)


Your 'Aborted by user' task using r1843 don't show change in options:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3021008858

Used GPU device parameters are:
Number of compute units: 6
Single buffer allocation size: 64MB
max WG size: 256
period_iterations_num=20

1597) Questions and Answers : Windows : Credits not accumulating but work still done (Message 1383674)
Posted 22 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

driver: 1.4.635 is very old (Catalyst 10.4 - 2010.04.28):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6295175

You need at least Catalyst 11.12 (Catalyst 11.12 have an advantage (for OpenCL) over the newer versions as it does not use a full CPU core during GPU OpenCL calculations)

Look this table for info and links:
http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet.htm


You can see 'Error while computing' (Run time: 0.00) for all your 'AstroPulse v6 v6.06 (cal_ati)' tasks
so in fact 'work is NOT continuing to be done' on your ATI GPU:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6295175

1598) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1383667)
Posted 22 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What about running with proposed options ?


@TJ13

To do this (if you still continue to have this 'hang at 20%' problem):
Go to:
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\

(Easy way to open this directory:
Press Win+R ([Win] is the key between left [Ctrl] and [Alt])
Paste the above path (C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\) and hit Enter
)

Find and edit the file (it have zero length by default):
mb_cmdline_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5.txt

Paste the following line in it and save:
-period_iterations_num 40 -sbs 128 -hp

To make the new options/settings in effect app have to be restarted, any of the following will do this:
[Suspend]/[Resume] the stuck task (always wait 5-10 sec after any Suspend) (when you Suspend the stuck task - new task of the same kind will start)
[Suspend]/[Resume] the project (SETI@home)
Exit/start BOINC
Restart Windows (do this if you had 'driver restart', after "driver failing and restarting successfully" OpenCL can no longer work - always Restart Windows if this happens)


Check in SIV what are the Temperatures of CPU and GPU during the computations.
(for CPU it shows both internal and external Temperatures, often the internal sensor is very wrong at low Temperature (when CPU is idle))

(too high Temperatures can cause 'driver restart' but usually at random points in the calculation.)

1599) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1383456)
Posted 21 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

All looks good to me:
R2: .\ref\ref-setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe-PG0395.wu.res
Result : Strongly similar, Q= 99.95%

R2: .\ref\ref-setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe-PG0395_v7.wu.res
Result : Strongly similar, Q= 99.95%

R2: .\ref\ref-setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe-PG1327.wu.res
Result : Strongly similar, Q= 99.14%

R2: .\ref\ref-setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe-PG1327_v7.wu.res
Result : Strongly similar, Q= 99.14%

(and 8 lines 'called boinc_finish' also show no app hang)

=============

If you still continue to have this 'hang at 20%' problem now - you may go for 'Updated Installers, v0.41 for Windows'
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71867&postid=1375943#1375943

(the only downside is the apps will not update automatically from SETI servers in the future.
So [Subscribe] to the above thread to be notified if something new is posted.
)

First read the link 'this thread':
"Please see this thread for full release notes. READ THEM before you install."

Then use any of the 2 download links:
"... on Arkayn's site, Crunchers Anonymous HERE"
or in the Mike's post

You need file:
Lunatics_Win64_v0.41_setup.exe

(Installer will issue a warning about "BOINC is still running", I prefer to exit BOINC first manually)

You need to select all apps (type of tasks) that you use or want to use
(CPU, ATI, AstroPulse, 'MultiBeam v7' == SETI@home v7)

For CPU if the AVX can be selected will be fastest.
(you now don't have CPU tasks, is it incidentally or is your choice?)
For ATI select MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r1843


Also make sure you have the proper selections per your choice here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project
Use CPU yes/no
Use ATI GPU yes/no
...
SETI@home Enhanced: yes/no
SETI@home v7: yes/no
AstroPulse v6: yes/no
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? yes/no


! If some app (type of tasks) is not selected (is unchecked) in 'SETI@home preferences' OR in Lunatics Installer
you will not receive this type of tasks.
(i.e. the app have to be selected in both places ('SETI@home preferences' and Lunatics Installer) to be 'active')

1600) Questions and Answers : Windows : NVIDIA driver, the newest version, dose not worak (Message 1383417)
Posted 21 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Read Claggy's answer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72056&postid=1382815#1382815

Edit:
It may be also the problem with cudart.dll and cufft.dll discussed here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71953

And why do you think 296.28 is "the newest version" I don't know.
Also 296.x is buggy (post say 296.10 and I'm not sure about 296.28):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69857

Best for you may be 266.58
http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-266.58-whql-driver.html


266.58 is so 'loved' that some people try hard to use it even on officially unsupported GPU
(we did it with small 'hack' (edit NV_Disp.inf) for GTX 560, if your NVIDIA GeForce GT 420 is not in the list of 'Supported products' (and driver don't want to install) you can do the same)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72009
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72009&postid=1381992#1381992

1601) Message boards : Number crunching : Scheduler Wait: CuFFT Plan Failure (Message 1383416)
Posted 21 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Read Claggy's answer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72056&postid=1382815#1382815

Edit:
It may be also the problem with cudart.dll and cufft.dll discussed here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71953

1602) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1383401)
Posted 21 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You can go to this site and paste the full text (and give the resulting link):
http://pastebin.com/

(you can do it without account but to be able to edit and delete your pastes you need account)

Example - my last Knabench test:
http://pastebin.com/xA0pY8qn


If the test really finished OK then there is easy solution for you - to go to apps included in Lunatics Installer
(MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r1843.exe is exactly from it)
(links to Lunatics Installer "How to" later, after we know ATi_HD5_r1843 really finished OK (you can find the info about Lunatics Installer by yourself but better wait for confirmation))


@Raistmer
What is the difference between the stock 'SSEx Win32 Build 1831 (USE_OPENCL_HD5xxx)' (I don't know the name of the .exe distributed)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3021008523
and MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r1843.exe

1603) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1383271)
Posted 21 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Edit: as I post it the first one finished.

"the first one" is a CPU app/result
The second will be the GPU app (which may hang again at 20%)

1604) Message boards : News : SETI@home Version 7 has been released (Message 1383268)
Posted 21 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Seems everyone is still confused.

Everyone?
You mean these people? ;)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/user_search.php?action=search&search_string=everyone&country=any&profile=either&team=either&search_type=date&action=Search

1605) Message boards : Number crunching : Seti spirit (Message 1383255)
Posted 21 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

For Windows XP users - use Junction:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896768

Example in the middle of this page:
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/16226/complete-guide-to-symbolic-links-symlinks-on-windows-or-linux/

I'm not sure about the syntax, maybe:
junction "C:\ProgramData\BOINC" "D:\BOINC_Data"
junction "C:\Program Files\BOINC" "D:\BOINC"

1606) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1383243)
Posted 21 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm awaiting OP to check system log and see how many driver restarts he actually had.


@TJ13

To do this:
Option 1 - use the 'standard' way:
Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Event Viewer -> System
(on Windows 8 it may be somehow different, I did this on XP)


But I prefer Option 2 - use MyEventViewer:
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/my_event_viewer.html


@Raistmer
Can you supply a search string (for 'Find') to easy locate the driver restarts? (in 'Event Viewer' or MyEventViewer)

1607) Message boards : News : SETI@home Version 7 has been released (Message 1383241)
Posted 21 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I wish I would have been given a choice

Don't take us wrong, probably all of us hate automatic updates to Windows, browsers, etc. (e.g. I use SRWare Iron instead of Google Chrome to avoid automatic updates)

But new versions of science apps (which do other type of research) can't be avoided if the project stops distributing the old type of tasks (and if the user want to stay with the project)
(it's like if your country changes the currency - you can't continue to use the old currency much longer)

All projects do this.

Look your Einstein@Home tasks:
http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/results.php?hostid=6212307

They are "Binary Radio Pulsar Search (Arecibo) v1.33 (BRP4SSE)"

Looking here:
http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/apps.php

... you can see when this app was first distributed (at some point after that date this app was automatically downloaded to your computer)
Windows/x86 1.33 (BRP4SSE) 25 Jan 2013 10:04:33 UTC

Your Computer joined Einstein@Home on: "Created 27 Nov 2012 0:15:14 UTC")
http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6212307

And ~2 months later 'your' BOINC automatically downloaded this new app from Einstein@Home servers.

1608) Message boards : Number crunching : Nvidia 26* drivers for GTX 560? (Message 1383189)
Posted 20 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do a search for text 'D13U' in all files found in:
C:\WINDOWS\inf\

1609) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1383185)
Posted 20 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Sorry, Ageless
I pointed Raistmer to this thread as I can't see why this problem occurs.
Raistmer gives short hints and maybe expects I to elaborate on them if the user have questions "How to do that" ;)

If Raistmer can better spend time and thinking to find why/how this problem occurs it will be fine with me 'expanding' his short hints.

My 'hints' to him were:
- What happens in the calculations at about 20% progress?
- is the app stuck waiting for something? (it is not using at that moment CPU or GPU according to the user)
- or it calls some external function which never returns?

1610) Message boards : News : SETI@home Version 7 has been released (Message 1383174)
Posted 20 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

It is normal (by design from the beginning) and is well known.

"Your PC downloads executable and input files from the project's data server. If the project releases new versions of its applications, the executable files are downloaded automatically to your PC."

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/How_BOINC_works

And this is not "upgrades to your system", the only changes are in the project directory
...\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\

1611) Message boards : Number crunching : v7 issues on very old cruncher (Message 1383156)
Posted 20 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You may try KernelEx
http://kernelex.sourceforge.net/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/kernelex/

1612) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : What have I done now...no more Cuda jobs running (Message 1383124)
Posted 20 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Do I just remove this "section" from the app_info and restart BOINC?

No, 'just' read again the first line of my previous post ;)


But I think this old package is compatible with setiathome_v7
01-Linux 64bit Cuda Multibeam (x41g), Dec 2011

You need to change in its app_info part:
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
...
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>611</version_num>
<plan_class>cuda_fermi</plan_class>

to:
<name>setiathome_v7</name>
...
<app_name>setiathome_v7</app_name>
<version_num>700</version_num>
<plan_class>cuda42</plan_class>

You may also need to do for all executable files:
chmod +x MBv7_7.05r1848_sse3_linux64


This is example of similar section for Windows for reference:
    <app>
        <name>setiathome_v7</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda42.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>cudart32_42_9.dll</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>cufft32_42_9.dll</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>mbcuda.cfg</name>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_v7</app_name>
        <version_num>700</version_num>
	<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
        <plan_class>cuda42</plan_class>
        <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus>
        <coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda42.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
         </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
	    <file_name>cudart32_42_9.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>cufft32_42_9.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>mbcuda.cfg</file_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>

1613) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : What have I done now...no more Cuda jobs running (Message 1383050)
Posted 20 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Read "Porting s@h V7 to Linux" (= the CUDA Linux app is not ready/ported yet)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71818

And the part about setiathome_v7 (in what you posted) for CPU looks very wrong (names do not match and you do not have ATI but NVIDIA GeForce GT 520):
<name>MBv7_7.05r1848_sse3_linux64</name> <- this is maybe the CPU app name
<file_name>MBv7_7.05r1844_sse2_clATI_HD5_linux64</file_name> <- this is for ATI GPU

1614) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1382931)
Posted 20 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I wonder if this may be some new incompatibility between (combination of) the app + AMD APU GPU + Windows 8 x64 + ATI drivers for Windows 8 ?

***

I prepared for you an offline test (offline = outside of BOINC)

To get the test use this direct link (5 MB file):
http://mail.dir.bg/~bil/Knabench_2.08_for_Multibeam__TJ13.zip

Uncompress the file and run MB_bench_208.cmd
(don't delete the Uncompressed folder after the test as it contains the results)

-----

The test will not affect BOINC files (it reads/writes only in its own subfolders)
It will pause BOINC during the test and resume it in the end.
(if you need to abort the test (in which case it have no chance to resume BOINC) - just un-Snooze BOINC manually from the icon near the clock)

Don't 'play' with BOINC during the test (e.g. do not un-Snooze it)
Also do not start 'heavy' apps (e.g. games)

(It may be better to Exit BOINC before the test since I'm not sure it will be able to automatically pause BOINC on Windows 8 x64)

The test will compute 4 short tasks (WUs) (short = they will finish ~10 times faster)
They are 2 WUs v6 and 2 WUs v7 (to test if the hang/stuck is connected with the new search in v7 - Autocorrelation)

Every of the 4 WUs will first run on the CPU using CPU app (setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe)
Then will run on the GPU using GPU app (MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r1843.exe)

The results from the CPU app and GPU app will be compared (for accuracy and speed)

You will see some messages on screen (e.g. which app started/ended)
The progress of every individual task is not shown.

You can monitor the CPU/GPU usage in SIV
(if you are curious you can see the progress of task in:
...\Science_apps\Reference\
...\Science_apps\
Open with Notepad the file state.sah and look for <prog>0.81633128</prog> (0.8163 = 81.63 %)
Open again the file after a few minutes to see the change in <prog>
Of course don't save the file (app changes it every minute)
)


The results (full messages) are saved in:
...\Testdatas\
in a file with name similar to:
{your-computer-name}-20130603-1901-benchMB.txt

1615) Message boards : Number crunching : Nvidia 26* drivers for GTX 560? (Message 1382690)
Posted 19 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This is the 6 lines I copied from 275 drivers to 266 drivers, placing them under the same sections. I assume one of the 2 sets is enough, but since I don't know which is the right I just copied both. The lines ins't DELL specific, so I wonder what's missing since the PC don't show the correct card name. Maybe I can correct it with regedit...

NVIDIA_DEV.1084.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560"
%NVIDIA_DEV.1084.01% = Section004, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1084
%NVIDIA_DEV.1084.01% = Section005, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1084

NVIDIA_DEV.1201.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560"
%NVIDIA_DEV.1201.01% = Section004, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1201
%NVIDIA_DEV.1201.01% = Section005, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1201

You may search the .inf file for D13U-15

For 'correct it with regedit' it is maybe possible (unless some checksum exists, IIRC months ago I came across a checksum but for ATI to protect some settings in registry from manual edit )
But I found ~20 places in registry which contain the string 'NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430' (this is my disabled in the BIOS integrated GPU)

Instead of using RegEdit directly to search I use RegScanner (it shows all what is found in a single list, use F8 or Right-click to open the same place by RegEdit)
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/regscanner.html


Edit:
I have the file 266.58_desktop_winxp_32bit_english_whql.exe and in it NV4_DISP.INF
Search for D13U do not find anything.

1616) Questions and Answers : Windows : Snooze dont stop Astropulse on Windows on pre-releases (Message 1382684)
Posted 19 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Read a few threads down and you'll see the same problem answered.
(you will 'lose' 2-3 minutes to read (less time than you needed to compose this post))

1617) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1382643)
Posted 19 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The BOINC processes (boinc.exe & boincmgr.exe) are not stuck.
It is the SETI GPU app that is stuck (waiting for something?).
Driver 'failing and restarting' indicates the SETI GPU app didn't exit properly.

For GPU load - see my Edit about SIV

1618) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1382635)
Posted 19 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The problem is we don't see a problem ;)
Everything looks correct in your messages and stderr.txt


Check in Windows Task Manager:

- When task show in BOINC as 'Running' but the % Progress is stuck (at ~20%):
do you see the SETI GPU process (.exe) in memory?
does it consume CPU time?
do you see GPU load?

- When you Suspend the project (SETI@home):
do you see (after a few seconds) that all SETI processes disappear from memory?

***

If you can't distinguish which are the SETI processes:
You can look for the names of all the .exe files found in:
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\

Edit: To see graph of GPU load - get SIV (you need only siv.zip - uncompress it and run SIV64X.exe)
http://rh-software.com/

1619) Message boards : Number crunching : Validate Error After two months?? (Message 1382632)
Posted 19 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Yes, there are strange WUs, my MB v6 CPU task 'Completed and validated' by its own:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1217333015

1620) Message boards : Number crunching : Need testers for new BOINC Monitor gadget (Message 1382624)
Posted 19 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"You can download *.zip (clean) gadgets here.":
http://www.myfavoritegadgets.info/cleangadge/CleanDownload.html

Scan of (clean) BOINCMonitor.zip (Detection ratio: 0 / 47)
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/9a0256e0ed11f8070d5159d13a08f432bc62bb74fa28c1015275581d1d38ba82/analysis/

Scan of (dirty) BOINCMonitor__2348_{random-numbers).exe (Detection ratio: 1 / 47)
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/bbbf1e00ff391a62a6cab5287e720fd0c707aefa7a43342ba01dfb095f9dd219/analysis/

DrWeb Adware.Downware.1238

1621) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1382511)
Posted 18 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Raistmer (the app developer) answer:
"Free 1 or 2 CPU cores perhaps.
Will it help ?
Looks like 12.8 driver used, should be OK driver-wise..."


To free 1 CPU core:
On multiprocessors, use at most 99% of the processors

To free 2 CPU cores (for your AMD A10-4600M APU "Number of processors 4"):
On multiprocessors, use at most 50% of the processors

1622) Message boards : Number crunching : AstroPulse has yet to finish on my system (Message 1382381)
Posted 18 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
someone else will have to explain how to Kill the SETI Screensaver.

It's simple - the same way you do with any other Screensaver, in the normal place on Windows where you choose which screensaver to run select (None) or Blank

1623) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1382372)
Posted 18 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I've adjusted my properties ...

What do you mean by "my properties"?

If you mean the RAM for GPU (set in BIOS) it is still 512MB:
ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7400/7500/7600 series (Trinity) (CAL version 1.4.1741, 512MB, 480MB available, 1315 GFLOPS peak)

(If you try again and (this time successfully) increase the GPU RAM share in BIOS
but 1024MB GPU RAM still does not help to go over the 20.xx % progress 'barrier'
I will try to contact the app developer

Your other tasks also stuck at ~20%, last message is:
Restarted at 20.37 percent.
Restarted at 20.17 percent.
Restarted at 20.28 percent.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3021008523
)

1624) Message boards : Number crunching : v7 anonymous -9s (Message 1382369)
Posted 18 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I thought one of the advantages of the Lunatics apps was that they would handle high counts of possible signals better than simply giving a -9 overflow error.

And how will they validate against stock if they report more (e.g. 60) signals??

1625) Message boards : Number crunching : Nvidia 26* drivers for GTX 560? (Message 1382362)
Posted 18 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
There was 2 entries for GTX 560 in 275 drivers, and looking for lines with NVIDIA_DEV in it, there was 6 lines in all, I copied them into 266.58 and they installed normally, all seems to work...

Can you post these 6 lines?
(not only for me - this will help other people wanting to do this hack)


One strange thing though, BOINC calls my card NVIDIA D13U-15... Don't know what's up with that??

It seems you copied some line specific for DELL (?)
http://www.impactcomputers.com/wgp2g.html
NVIDIA_DEV.1081.01 = "NVIDIA D13U"
NVIDIA_DEV.1082.01 = "NVIDIA D13U "
NVIDIA_DEV.1083.01 = "NVIDIA D13U " "

(The name at the right may be anything
NVIDIA_DEV.1083.01 = "NVIDIA JohnDK SuperDuper GTX 560"

You may do this for fun (but only if you know the proper DeviceID it will have effect.)
)


I'm interested to see your real DeviceID (copy it from SIV or Device Manager)

1626) Message boards : Number crunching : Won't matter much to me......... (Message 1382357)
Posted 18 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
My cruncher consumes about 700 watts or so yet the heat out does not equal the heat from a 700 watt space heater it is considerable less.

How do you know that your "cruncher consumes about 700 watts"
Did you measure it in real time?
It may really consume only 200 watts.

(If your PSU is rated '700 W' this does not mean your computer really "consumes about 700 watts"
The same: if your stereo music system say "total RMS power of 100 W" this does not mean you use that power (Volume to Max) all the time.
)

1627) Questions and Answers : Getting started : BOINC user want to use Account Manager - Created BAM account and this ruined everything.... (Message 1382356)
Posted 18 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

From your post I can say that "MAC-address or IP-number" have no influence.
(after all they may change easily (e.g. new router))

There have to be some file with name like:
account_boincstats.com_en_bam.xml
(I 'forged' the name from what files I have for projects like: account_asteroidsathome.net_boinc.xml)
If such file exists it have to contain all the info BAM needs to identify you.

(But I have to admit I have no any experience with BAM and how it works.

If this is correct:
"2. Let BAM! find your account in all existing projects, using the "Find account" button."
and "Find account" button is somewhere on http://boincstats.com/en/bam/
this means that boincstats site directly connects to (all known) projects' sites and try to log-in your accounts there.
It (boincstats.com/en/bam/) will try to use your email/password to log-in to every project even if you don't have account there (and even if you never heard of those projects)
(so your local computer is out of the equation - you may do "Find account" button e.g. from your friend's computer)
(all the above is my speculation (not based on any experience with BAM) and is based only on the claim that there exist some (unknown for me) "Find account" button on the BAM website)

I still don't understand why you need BAM for only one project.
)
1628) Questions and Answers : Windows : Radeon HD 5670 - SETI using GPU when it shouldn't (Message 1382350)
Posted 18 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Known problem
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71581

... due to bug in BOINC API
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71581&postid=1377402#1377402

Will be fixed in next versions of GPU OpenCL apps (see the last post by Raistmer)

1629) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1382347)
Posted 18 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Did you already try a reboot?

If again an ATI task 'hang':
Try to allocate (in BIOS) more memory for the GPU (e.g. 1024 MB instead of 512 MB)

1630) Questions and Answers : Windows : Duel ATI Radeon HD 3800 (512MB) cards - getting no GPU Tasks. (Message 1382200)
Posted 17 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Optimised Applications and Other Binaries
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71867&postid=1375943#1375943

Read "Lunatics Windows Installer v0.41 Release Notes"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71866&postid=1375941#1375941

In the installer you have to select all apps that you need/use, not only the Brook/HybridAP

1631) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1382197)
Posted 17 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I don't understand what you mean by this:
"When I tried to suspend and resume both the task and the project it didn't show up at all"

Since you have:
6/17/2013 1:40:37 AM | | don't compute while active
6/17/2013 1:40:37 AM | | don't use GPU while active

try (for test) to set from Activity menu: 'Run always' and 'Use GPU always' (wait a few minutes to see if the task is making progress)
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Advanced_view#BOINC_Manager_Menus

Check the GPU load (do you know/have utility for this?)


You suspended for only 2 seconds:
6/17/2013 10:33:14 AM | SETI@home | task 26jn12ab.22197.8010.10.12.170_0 suspended by user
6/17/2013 10:33:16 AM | SETI@home | task 26jn12ab.22197.8010.10.12.170_0 resumed by user
6/17/2013 10:38:49 AM | SETI@home | project suspended by user
6/17/2013 10:38:51 AM | SETI@home | project resumed by user

Wait more (e.g. 10-20 seconds) after the suspend.
Check in Windows Task Manager/Process Explorer that the processes disappear.
Try to exit BOINC and start it again.

1632) Message boards : News : AVG 2013 virus scanner false positive on SETI@home 7 for Windows (Message 1382155)
Posted 17 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Are we sure the virus scanner is false?

Yes

Check (click) the links in these posts:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71784&postid=1373741#1373741

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71784&postid=1374180#1374180

Also this (Detection ratio: 0/47 for setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe):
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/eb48e373ef5d59bc018ef687388cae5e824bc1dc09b1549eb95ddae5efbcbac0/analysis/


If you want - send your copy of setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe (or any other file you have doubt about):
https://www.virustotal.com/en/

1633) Message boards : Number crunching : Won't matter much to me......... (Message 1382148)
Posted 17 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If all a pc did is convert it's energy into heat it would be very inefficient ...

You continue to not understand the laws of physics.

('efficient' PC is just a PC which draw less Watts for the same 'useful work' but it will still convert all those 'electrical Watts' to 'heat Watts'.
Get 100 'efficient' PCs, make them work hard and they will heat the room to unbearable levels (end 'exactly' to the amount they draw from the mains).

If you measure they draw 100*100 = 10000 W it will be the same as if you use 10000 W heater.
If they idle at 10 W each: 100*10 = 1000 W = at idle state they will heat as if you use 1000 W heater.
)

The only way I see those 'electrical Watts' will not equal the 'heat Watts remaining in the room' is if some of the energy escapes the room in a form of electromagnetic radiation (radio waves, light, infrared) or mechanical waves (sound, vibration)
(but still 'electrical Watts' = 'heat Watts', just not all 'heat Watts' remain in the room)

Some say fans/HDD/CD turn so electrical energy is converted to mechanical (kinetic) energy.
But for this mechanical energy it takes only a few seconds to be all converted to heat (if you switch OFF the computer fans/HDD stop after a few seconds)
So electrical energy is only added to sustain the turning and is added in the same amount which fans/HDD 'lose' by mechanical -> heat conversion.

1634) Questions and Answers : Windows : Duel ATI Radeon HD 3800 (512MB) cards - getting no GPU Tasks. (Message 1382128)
Posted 17 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

ATI Radeon HD 3800 do not support OpenCL
http://developer.amd.com/tools-and-sdks/heterogeneous-computing/amd-accelerated-parallel-processing-app-sdk/system-requirements-driver-compatibility/

http://www.khronos.org/conformance/adopters/conformant-products#opencl


ATI OpenCL support is needed for SETI@home apps to run on ATI GPU:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php


Edit:
There is a possibility to use part (~20%) of this GPU to do astropulse_v6 tasks but it involves installing 3rd party apps:

"AstroPulse Brook+ (also known as HybridAP) application is intended to process SETI@home AstroPulse v6 tasks on AMD/ATi HD2xxx, HD3xxx and pre-APU onboard ATi GPUs.
It uses GPU as coprocessor to speedup FFA part of AstroPulse algorithm and uses CPU for all other parts.
For effective GPU usage it's recommended to run few app instances simultaneously.
"

1635) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issue running Seti projects (Message 1382123)
Posted 17 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

1) Instead of words like laptop/desktop give 'Computer ID'
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=8366054

Now I can only guess:
ID: 6262455 = 'laptop'
ID: 6013857 = 'desktop'


2) The project is SETI@home
So "had a project stuck at 20.394% for a few days now"
have to be "had a task stuck at 20.394% for a few days now"

To see why task is stuck:
- look in 'Status' column, what is shown for the stuck task?:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Advanced_view#The_Tasks_tab

- press Ctrl+Shift+E - what messages are shown for the stuck task?:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Advanced_view#The_Event_Log_window


Try to [Suspend]/[Resume] the stuck task:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Advanced_view#The_Tasks_tab

... or to [Suspend]/[Resume] the project (SETI@home):
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Advanced_view#The_Projects_tab


Look again in Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E) to see/copy the new messages after [Suspend]/[Resume]

1636) Questions and Answers : Getting started : BOINC user want to use Account Manager - Created BAM account and this ruined everything.... (Message 1382118)
Posted 17 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If "Servers only running seti@home" you don't need BAM, just detach from BAM and attach directly to seti@home

(I don't know how to detach from BAM (I don't use BAM) but maybe the command is:
boinccmd --quit_acct_mgr
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Boinccmd_tool
)

Account manager may only be useful/easier if you run many projects:
"if you run several projects, try using an account manager such as GridRepublic or BAM!."
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Main_Page


You probably may find some answers here:
http://boincstats.com/en/page/faq

1637) Message boards : Number crunching : Nvidia 26* drivers for GTX 560? (Message 1382014)
Posted 17 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
4) If you have SIV - click [PCI Bus] button, then [Copy] button, paste in Notepad

Look for line about your GPU, for mine is:
[2 - 00 - 0]  16   1002-6759-04031043-00 VGA Controller x16@1 (x16) AMD Radeon HD 6570 (NI TURKS)

The meaning of numbers:
1002- vendor (ATI) (NVIDIA is 10DE)
6759- DeviceID (Radeon HD 6570) (is your 1201 ?)
0403 product (video card model #)
1043 subvendor (ASUS) (MSI is 1462)

The same is shown in Device Manager as:
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6759&SUBSYS_04031043&REV_00


P.S.
Make copies of the .inf file
Start the install by setup.exe which is in the same dir as the .inf file
(if you by mistake start the original installer (which created C:\NVIDIA\DisplayDriver\...) it may overwrite the .inf file with the original)

1638) Message boards : Number crunching : Nvidia 26* drivers for GTX 560? (Message 1382008)
Posted 17 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:


The results for msi.com and www.msi.com are much different:
http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=msi.com
http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=www.msi.com

But I don't expect to see any difference in using:
http://msi.com/service/download/
http://www.msi.com/service/download/

or:
http://msi.com/service/download/driver-15935.html
http://www.msi.com/service/download/driver-15935.html

because they point to the same server/files:
http://208.96.34.5/service/download/
http://208.96.34.5/service/download/driver-15935.html

(i.e. there is no difference if msi.com or www.msi.com is used - both resolve to the same IP)

1639) Message boards : Number crunching : Nvidia 26* drivers for GTX 560? (Message 1381993)
Posted 16 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Check it out, MSI.com is now on the Google dangerous site list.

Where did you see this?

http://www.urlvoid.com/scan/msi.com/

https://www.virustotal.com/en/url/ad392b99e4b4d97fc3f15ef4075cfb9cd510c4fe13ee7f3265907553c6528742/analysis/

Probably this was something (links to external sites/files) posted by users in http://forum-en.msi.com/
http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=msi.com

1640) Message boards : Number crunching : Nvidia 26* drivers for GTX 560? (Message 1381992)
Posted 16 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

1) What is the error message when you try to install driver from nvidia_266.44_v764_vga.zip ?

2) Does the NV_Disp.inf file found under (maybe) C:\NVIDIA\DisplayDriver\266.44 contain strings about GTX 560 ?

3) This line is not enough:
NVIDIA_DEV.1201.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560"

- Search the NV_Disp.inf file (e.g. from v275.33) for:
NVIDIA_DEV.1201.01

You will find line like (which must be copied also):
%NVIDIA_DEV.1201.01% = Section011, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1201

The 'Section0??' will probably (have to) be the same in lines about GTX 560 and for GTX 560 Ti
(GTX 560 Ti probably is %NVIDIA_DEV.1200.01% )

If the 'Section0??' match (is the same) for 560 Ti/560 in v275.33 make sure it also match in .inf for v266.44
(I mean the proper 'Section0??' may be different in the 2 .inf files)

- Search the NV_Disp.inf file for more lines containing 'GTX 560' (they will have different 'NVIDIA_DEV.????' - do the same with these)

E.g. see how there are 3 'GT 220' on the bottom of this file:
http://pastebin.com/Gh1qMbqp
NVIDIA_DEV.0A20.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce GT 220 "
NVIDIA_DEV.0CA5.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce GT 220  "
NVIDIA_DEV.0CAC.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce GT 220   "


4) If you have SIV - click [PCI Bus] button, then [Copy] button, paste in Notepad

Look for line about your GPU, for mine is:
[2 - 00 - 0]  16   1002-6759-04031043-00 VGA Controller x16@1 (x16) AMD Radeon HD 6570 (NI TURKS)


The meaning of numbers:
1002- vendor (ATI) (NVIDIA is 10DE)
6759- DeviceID (Radeon HD 6570) (is your 1201 ?)
0403 product (video card model #)
1043 subvendor (ASUS) (MSI is 1462)

For you this have to be something like:
10DE-1201-????1462

(if it is not 1201 you need other (faked, edited) lines, not NVIDIA_DEV.1201.01 but with your DeviceID number, e.g.:
NVIDIA_DEV.1084.01
)

1641) Message boards : Number crunching : Nvidia 26* drivers for GTX 560? (Message 1381845)
Posted 16 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

First try this (MSI 266.44 driver for GTX 560):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72009&postid=1381672#1381672

(I don't "have it" (modded 266.58 or 266.66 drivers) but I think we can add a few lines to the .inf file to make these drivers install on GTX 560)

1642) Message boards : Number crunching : Nvidia 26* drivers for GTX 560? (Message 1381672)
Posted 16 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

OK, good find, but he needs 64-bit:

http://www.downloadplex.com/Drivers/Display-Adapters/MSI/Specifications-msi-n560gtx-m2d1gd5-graphics-card-driver-266.44_420568.html

nvidia_266.44_v764_vga.zip
http://msi.com/service/download/driver-15935.html

1643) Message boards : Number crunching : Nvidia 26* drivers for GTX 560? (Message 1381668)
Posted 16 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I'm almost sure 266.58 or 266.66 driver will work with GTX 560 but for install will need a NV_Disp.inf hack/edit
http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-266.58-whql-driver.html
http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-266.66-whql-driver.html

NV_Disp.inf is probably in similar directory:
C:\NVIDIA\DisplayDriver\266.58\Vista 64-bit\International\Display.Driver\
C:\NVIDIA\DisplayDriver\266.58\Vista 64-bit\English\Display.Driver\

Do you want to do the hack?

1644) Message boards : Number crunching : 2 Nvidia GPUs but only 1 free PCI-E slot - using 2nd GPU via standard PCI viable? (Message 1381456)
Posted 15 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
But there is no practical way to do that. I don't understand why, cause there is already a mechanism to exclude single GPUs from specific projects.
For example the <exclude_gpu> tag at http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration

What a pity... :/

You can try 'GPUSwitch script' on the bottom of this page:
http://www.hellhorse.net/hellhorse/

Made by:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=76578

In GPUSwitch.js you need to edit at least:
var strBOINCDir = "D:\\Sensitive data programs\\BOINC";

For more info: Readme(GPUSwitch).txt in the GPUSwitch.rar

1645) Message boards : Number crunching : v7 cuda23 WUs getting ERR_TOO_MANY_EXITS (Message 1381445)
Posted 15 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
And it isn't BOINC's fault that the application doesn't find the renamed files - that's behaviour governed by Windows itself (if the app finds DLLs with the names it expects in the first place it looks, it stops looking - and nobody's found a way to override that).

Looking with Process Explorer I see the Current directory is in slots:

Path: H:\BOINC-Data\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\AKv8c_Bb_r1846_winx86_SSE2x.exe
Command line: projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/AKv8c_Bb_r1846_winx86_SSE2x.exe
Current directory: H:\BOINC-Data\slots\5\

Path: H:\BOINC-Data\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r1843.exe
Command line: projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r1843.exe --device 0
Current directory: H:\BOINC-Data\slots\0\


So why 'the first place it looks' is not in slots\?\ but in projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\ ?

1646) Questions and Answers : Windows : long standing work unit issue (Message 1381040)
Posted 14 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

What do you mean by "ignoring" those guidelines?
Exactly which 'guidelines' are ignored?

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/ClientSched

1647) Questions and Answers : Windows : long standing work unit issue (Message 1381033)
Posted 14 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I stopped using seti@home awhile ago because it persistently kept ignoring files with the shortest deadline and favored files that weren't due for 1 month or more. I reported this problem and it was never addressed. I am back on seti@home with a new high end machine and I see that the same issue still exists.

This is not issue, it is intended behavior.

http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?language=1&view=168

http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?language=1&view=541


You can artificially force (at your risk) what you want by:
Switch between tasks every ZZZZ minutes
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global

Play with values in range 5000-15000 minutes
Don't go too high (e.g. >20000) or you may not get new tasks.

1648) Questions and Answers : Windows : cannot add projects (Message 1380886)
Posted 14 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Every project have its own account.

When you add another project and you are sure you have account there:
select 'Yes, existing user'

If you don't have account at that project:
select 'No, new user'

(there is not such thing as "account at seti/boinc", if you have account here it is only "account at SETI@home", not at 'BOINC')

It is preferable to use the same email address at all projects, password may be different.

For more info read:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Choosing_and_joining_projects

1649) Questions and Answers : Windows : AstroPulse v6 6.04 (opencl_nvidia_100), CPU over runs..etc (Message 1380884)
Posted 13 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Since I do not want "things" to "burn" ...

Then control it, use TThrottle:
http://www.efmer.eu/boinc/

1650) Message boards : Number crunching : Here's one for the BOINC/Seti team - Gender Switching WUs (Message 1380810)
Posted 13 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
However, still don't know why some 6.04s changed their spots to 6.01 whilst "Ready to Start" when I aborted all the previous 6.01s.

Again, are you sure that these new appeared 6.01 APs are the same old '6.04' tasks and not just new ones?

1651) Message boards : Number crunching : Here's one for the BOINC/Seti team - Gender Switching WUs (Message 1380793)
Posted 13 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
On that machine:

1) I look down the list of "ready to run" AP WUs.
2) I Ctrl-click to select all the 6.1s.
3) I hit the abort button
4) I watch and see some 6.04s change to 6.1

Are you sure you see 6.1 and not 6.01 (which is the right number for CPU AP from the installer AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU.aistub) ?

Do you have this part in your app_info.xml (you see it is <version_num>601</version_num> and not 610=6.1)
(you can just delete this part to not do CPU AP)
    <app>
        <name>astropulse_v6</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r1797.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>libfftw3f-3.dll</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>ap_cmdline_win_x86_SSE_CPU.txt</name>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>astropulse_v6</app_name>
        <version_num>601</version_num>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r1797.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>libfftw3f-3.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>ap_cmdline_win_x86_SSE_CPU.txt</file_name>
            <open_name>ap_cmdline.txt</open_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>



1652) Message boards : Number crunching : Observation of CreditNew Impact (Message 1380283)
Posted 12 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
...
In the case of "the New Credit System" implemented by Seti, recognition of personal contribution has been reduced. At present, the indication is that recognition for effort is effectively half that of what it was prior to the new recognition system being employed.

Although a CreditNew design goal was to have credits comparable between projects, the implementation clearly hasn't achieved that. And the change from Sah Enhanced to Sah v7 seems to have demonstrated that even for very similar work the system doesn't stabilize at the same credit rate. Those are BOINC issues, and perhaps the close relationship between Sah and BOINC will allow improvements to flow back into BOINC.

What I see as a possible short-term improvement would be to recognize the contribution in a different form, RAC relative to the total project RAC. That way if the overall RAC declines by 50% and an individual's RAC also by 50%, it is obvious that user is still contributing as before. It would need to be scaled up more than just converting to percent, the current top host is doing about 0.1% of the total RAC and most hosts far far less. Users wouldn't be comfortable with scoring having a lot of zeroes after the decimal indicator. Then a name for that score is needed...
                                                                 Joe

This is similar to:
"BOINC World position based on RAC"
"Contribution to SETI@Home total RAC"
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/0/host/detail/4832843

1653) Message boards : Number crunching : V7 VLARs & Kepler GPUs? (Message 1380268)
Posted 12 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I would like opt-in too.(for the science value & big work supply)

If they implement this I would like one more opt-out ;)
When CPU asks for SETI@home v7 work send VLARs in preference (if available)

(all this opt-in/opt-out have to be probably in some 'advanced' section of SETI@home preferences to not confuse 'casual' users)

1654) Message boards : News : AVG 2013 virus scanner false positive on SETI@home 7 for Windows (Message 1380234)
Posted 12 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Sorry to say but I am encountering the problem on Windows 7 (32-bit) with a Free version of AVG.

I have followed your instructions
"Add your BOINC/projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu directory to the list of exceptions. That directory will probably either be C:\Program Data\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu or C:\Users\YourUsername\Program Data\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu"

We'll see if I get further "Detections" in the coming 24hrs


AVG Detection popped up again this morning so this fix hasn't worked.

Can you post (copy/paste) the exact directory/files in the list of exceptions (excluded from scan)?

Because if you did this with posted:
C:\Program Data\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu
C:\Users\YourUsername\Program Data\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu

... nothing useful will happen.

(\Program Data\ have to be \ProgramData\ , 'YourUsername' have to be replaced, etc.
So your BOINC Data dir is for certain different
)

1655) Message boards : Number crunching : Linux: v7 CUDA? (Message 1379965)
Posted 11 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Discussed in 'Porting s@h V7 to Linux':
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71818

1656) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINCmgr stuck in "Connecting to localhost" (Message 1379962)
Posted 11 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
All machines are running Windows Firewall and McAfee Enterprise anti-Virus product.

I can not find any differences between the machines that work and the one that fails.

Can you try (test) on the problem machine to switch OFF both Windows Firewall and McAfee anti-Virus
just to see will be any difference.

1657) Message boards : Number crunching : v7 cuda23 WUs getting ERR_TOO_MANY_EXITS (Message 1379907)
Posted 11 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Apropos, have you ever compared the LZMA size of a UPX file, compared to the LZMA of the raw uncompressed file? Eric's trick might work in other distribution situations, too.

But this may have other drawback (increased memory usage) if I correctly read the upx.doc / upx.html


NOTES FOR WIN32/PE

The PE support in UPX is quite stable now, but probably there are still some incompatibilities with some files.

Because of the way UPX (and other packers for this format) works, you can see increased memory usage of your compressed files because the whole program is loaded into memory at startup. If you start several instances of huge compressed programs you're wasting memory because the common segments of the program won't get shared across the instances. On the other hand if you're compressing only smaller programs, or running only one instance of larger programs, then this penalty is smaller, but it's still there.

If you're running executables from network, then compressed programs will load faster, and require less bandwidth during execution.

DLLs are supported. But UPX compressed DLLs can not share common data and code when they got used by multiple applications. So compressing msvcrt.dll is a waste of memory, but compressing the dll plugins of a particular application may be a better idea.

1658) Message boards : Number crunching : App_info.xml missing (Message 1379687)
Posted 11 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... the ap v6 is marked as "no" yet the executable + workunit were download automatically ...

Because of this:
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? yes

1659) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINCmgr stuck in "Connecting to localhost" (Message 1379679)
Posted 11 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do you use any 'special' Firewall?

1660) Message boards : Number crunching : Unable to upload tasks (Message 1379672)
Posted 11 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you 'love' that file - copy it somewhere.

Then edit the original (that is in the Boinc Data Dir) and delete everything between
<log_flags>
</log_flags>
except the lines you need.

Because some of these are ON by default (when no cc_config.xml exist) and you set them to OFF by using 0 everywhere.

The normal (by default) flags are:
09/06/2013 20:51:15 log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task


e.g. my cc_config.xml is (and no, don't copy anything from it if you don't know what it does):
<cc_config>

   <log_flags>
      <benchmark_debug>1</benchmark_debug>
      <dcf_debug>1</dcf_debug>
      <checkpoint_debug>0</checkpoint_debug>
      <work_fetch_debug>0</work_fetch_debug>
   </log_flags>

   <options>
      <start_delay>55</start_delay>
      <ncpus>-1</ncpus>

      <max_file_xfers>20</max_file_xfers>
      <max_file_xfers_per_project>10</max_file_xfers_per_project>

      <save_stats_days>3650</save_stats_days>
      <max_stdout_file_size>8388000</max_stdout_file_size>

      <zero_debts>1</zero_debts>
   </options>

</cc_config>

1661) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Seti running despite saying it is suspended (Message 1379546)
Posted 10 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Known problem - 'Astropulse ATI not stopping on PC use':
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71581

They (ATI Astropulse developer (Raistmer) and BOINC developers) work to fix it.

See these 2 posts (by Ageless and Raistmer):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71581&postid=1377402#1377402

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71581&postid=1378526#1378526

1662) Questions and Answers : Web site : No new jobs after change to Seti@home7 for Windows? (Message 1379536)
Posted 10 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You had 1 task (AstroPulse v6 v6.04 (opencl_ati_100)) 'Sent 8 Jun 2013, 16:08:50 UTC':
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5458724

* Go to 'SETI@home preferences':
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

... and:
- increase 'Resource share' (e.g. to 200 or 500 or 1000 ...)
- make sure you have:
Use CPU yes
Use ATI GPU yes

- at the bottom:

SETI@home Enhanced: yes
SETI@home v7: yes
AstroPulse v6: yes
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? yes


* Go to 'Computing preferences':
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global

'Maintain enough tasks to keep busy for at least' (set this to 3-5 days)
'... and up to an additional' (set this to 0.1 days)


1663) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.41 Release Notes (Message 1378208)
Posted 7 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have WinXP thru Win7/64 hosts available for testing here, so I can try the %systemroot% approach with a deliberately broken path statement - that would indeed be the simplest solution.

Of course first check:

Set FindExe=%SystemRoot%\system32\find.exe

IF [NOT] EXIST %FindExe% .....

for %%s in (*.aistub) do echo %%s & type %%s | %FindExe% /v "app_info" >> app_info.xml


(I think there is a way/command to search a file in all Path= directories (to see if find.exe is somewhere in the Path=) but I don't remember it now)

If we are paranoid and think that someone will name the Windows directory with spaces (e.g. C:\W i n d o w s) (and how Windows directory is named on German, China, etc. versions of Windows?)
probably we need to use "":
Set FindExe="%SystemRoot%\system32\find.exe"

1664) Message boards : News : AVG 2013 virus scanner false positive on SETI@home 7 for Windows (Message 1378183)
Posted 7 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Who did the scoring. What criteria was used in the process. Yes, color me a skeptic. Just the facts, Sir.

There are several reputable sources/organizations that test Anti-Virus Software:

http://www.av-comparatives.org/

http://www.av-test.org/en/home/

http://www.virusbtn.com/


'Real-World Protection Tests':
http://chart.av-comparatives.org/chart1.php?chart=chart2&year=2013&month=4&sort=0

And strangely Microsoft have no False Alarms:
http://chart.av-comparatives.org/chart1.php?chart=chart6&year=2013&month=3&sort=0

1665) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.41 Release Notes (Message 1377681)
Posted 6 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Fix:
Add this text to the beginning of Path environment variable (copy from here, change drive letter if needed):
;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;

I'm sure Richard, William and the rest of the gang are pleased to hear you figured out why the install didn't work.

However, if you are going to fix something fix it right. In this case, don't hardcode the paths like that. The correct form is:

%SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\System32\Wbem;

(taken from an almost vanilla installation of XP.)

Yes, this looks like the correct way.

Then it is strange that on my system (Win XP) it is hardcoded (copy is from 'Edit System Variable' window, not from CMD, and I didn't edited it manually ever):

%CommonProgramFiles%\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live;D:\Program Files\AMD APP\bin\x86;D:\WINDOWS\system32;D:\WINDOWS;D:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;H:\Programs.XP\Samsung;H:\ASRAPI\BIN;D:\Program Files\Common Files\Teleca Shared;D:\Program Files\QuickTime\QTSystem\;D:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\Core-Static

1666) Questions and Answers : Windows : Does Astropulse Require a GPU? (Message 1377652)
Posted 6 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

CPU-only app was the first in existence (before GPU apps).
See on bottom of this page that there is CPU AstroPulse v6 app:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

(Windows/x86 6.01)


Check is BOINC requesting CPU work from SETI (Advanced -> Event Log (SHIFT + CTRL + E))
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Advanced_view#BOINC_Manager_Menus


There are many AstroPulse WUs now (Results ready to send 24,911), no problem to get one if you are set correctly.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html


Are you sure you selected:
AstroPulse v6: yes

here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

1667) Questions and Answers : Windows : Screen Saver Graphics (Message 1377630)
Posted 6 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have a Windows 8 Toshiba Laptop with an i7 processor and Intel graphics card.
The problem is when the screen saver starts up the upper left works okay but the bottom half does not work. How can I correct that problem?
Thanks in advance for any help with the about two problems.

Dan Fisher

Known problem with Intel graphics, I don't know for a fix:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71007

I think (remember reading somewhere) it happens only with the 'newer' Intel HD Graphics drivers, 'older' show the graph OK
Since I don't have Intel HD Graphics I don't know the exact driver version that works OK

1668) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.41 Release Notes (Message 1377605)
Posted 6 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Fred E.:
I'm puzzled by the problem I'm having.
I get a bad app_info.xml file - just one line:

<app_info>

This was with BOINC completely shut down. Have repeated several times, with the same results. Can't read the installer's messages to see if has an error message- they fly by too fast for me.


The problem was identified and solved in dialog between Fred E. and me.

This is not caused by error in the installer.
(aimerge.cmd included in the installer uses the well known command 'find' which is supposed to be present and working on any Windows)

The cause:
It turns out that on some systems the Path environment variable is not set correctly (probably some program install/uninstall deleted it).
(find.exe used by aimerge.cmd is in \WINDOWS\system32\ and this directory need to be in Path= (which is the case on fresh installed Windows))

To check:
Start command prompt (Win+R and type in the 'Run' window: CMD)
Type (in the command prompt window):
set pa




See if somewhere in the Path= there is:
C:\WINDOWS\system32

(drive letter may be different, you see my is not C: but D:):
If you don't have this directory in the Path= some commands will not work on your system.


Fix:
Add this text to the beginning of Path environment variable (copy from here, change drive letter if needed):
;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;

To get to the window for editing:
Windows XP: Win+Pause
Windows 7/Vista: Win+Pause and at top-left click 'Advanced system settings'
... and follow the picture bellow.

In 'Edit System Variable' window press Home to go to the beginning and Ctrl+V to paste the ;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;





(I think you need to be 'Administrator' to do the above change)

- Reboot the computer
- See if the set command now shows ;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS; in the Path=

(tested on Windows XP 32-bit, you may see some difference on other systems)


P.S.
On Fred E. computer the Path was only this:
Path=C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX\Common

We fixed it to:
Path=C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX\Common

... and the installer's aimerge.cmd correctly created app_info.xml
Fred E.: "The installer ran fine, no visible problems, now running BOINC with the app_info.xml it created (with usual edits for count)."


1669) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.41 Release Notes (Message 1377434)
Posted 6 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Nevertheless, for someone willing to put in extra effort to achieve best Astropulse CPU performance I'll suggest this procedure:

1. Select all tasks in BOINC Manager (or other Manager) and suspend them.
2. Shut BOINC down.
3. Rename the r1797_[stripped CPU name].wisdom file to preserve it but force creation of a new one.
4. Restart BOINC.
5. Unsuspend one task for AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r1797.exe
6. Wait until it has created the new wisdom file, then unsuspend all the other tasks.

1. For some apps this have to be done twice i.e.:
- after a few minutes suspend the first running task
- wait a few seconds and unsuspend another task of the same kind
- wait a few minutes before "unsuspend all the other tasks"

I tested with AKv8c_Bb_r1846_winx86_SSE2x.exe - the #1 task created the new wisdom file with size 14 KB, the #2 task increased the size to 29 KB
(AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r1843.exe seems to (maybe) need only one test but it doesn't hurt to run a second task for a while before unsuspend all tasks)


Each subsequent run will have loaded the file, seen that it contained info suitable for all the plans needed, and rewritten the file. That rewrite may change the order the codelets are listed, which makes a naive comparison think the files are different.

I can confirm that #3 task do not change the values in the wisdom file (I made copy of 'wisdom' after each run/task).

The file seems changed but if you sort it alphabetically you will see it is the same for #2 and #3 run tasks.
(I used in CMD prompt: sort <r1846_AMDAthlontmIIX3455Processor.wisdom >>wisdomSorted)


2. I think that (Intel) SpeedStep and (AMD) Cool'n'Quiet / PowerNow! technologies can lead to unpredictable results (skew the tests) during this 'wisdom' files generation.

So disable them (in the BIOS) before the procedure.

1670) Message boards : Number crunching : Fred's Rescheduler and V7 (Message 1376671)
Posted 4 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
And the advice was?

I'm sure it was to add / at the end:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/

<master_url>http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/</master_url>
1671) Message boards : Number crunching : whats with the download fails? (Message 1376665)
Posted 4 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The problem is obvious:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3025643521

Stderr output
<core_client_version>7.0.64</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
app_version download error: couldn't get input files:
<file_xfer_error>
<file_name>seti_700.jpg</file_name>
<error_code>-200</error_code>
</file_xfer_error>


http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3025687068

Stderr output
<core_client_version>7.0.64</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
app_version download error: couldn't get input files:
<file_xfer_error>
<file_name>ap_601.jpg</file_name>
<error_code>-200</error_code>
</file_xfer_error>


For what to do - read my 2 posts here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71836&postid=1375401#1375401

1672) Message boards : News : SETI@home Version 7 has been released (Message 1376657)
Posted 4 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
did anyone beta test 7.0.0.64 (x64) on windows xp x64 before its release?

7.0.0.64 (x64) of what?
(SETI@home Version 7 (the topic of this thread) is not BOINC 7.0.64)

1673) Message boards : News : AVG 2013 virus scanner false positive on SETI@home 7 for Windows (Message 1376572)
Posted 4 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I might have to find another antivirus / firewall program to replace it with. Suggestions of a more suitable program welcome.

I use ESET NOD32 Antivirus 4 (the current version is 6 but I like the older interface)
http://www.eset.com/

http://www.eset.com/home/whyeset/compare/

1674) Questions and Answers : Windows : Computer shut down (Message 1376518)
Posted 4 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Using this program (SIV - System Information Viewer) you can get info about Temperatures, CPU/GPU load, Voltages, ...:
http://rh-software.com/

Just get siv.zip , extract it to empty directory, run SIV64X.exe (no install needed)

1675) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.41 Release Notes (Message 1376144)
Posted 3 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm puzzled by the problem I'm having. I get a bad app_info.xml file - just one line:

<app_info>

This was with BOINC completely shut down. Have repeated several times, with the same results. Can't read the installer's messages to see if has an error message- they fly by too fast for me.


And not even on win8 :(

Ok, check your project directory if the .aistubs for the apps you selected have been copied in. Then doubleclick on aimerge.cmd to manually run and see if that produces a valid app_info.xml.

If that doesn't help, but you do have the aistubs, you have to manually merge them into one large app_info.xml - copy all together and take out all the </app_info><app_info> inbetween the apps.

Update:
The aimerge produced the same results, even though I deleted all aistubs and ran the installer again to make sure only the ones I needed were present in the directory. Have built the app_info.xml file by copy/paste from the aistub files and I'm running. In the meantime, I created other problems (too many to go into) but those are now resolved. I'm getting my tasks resent because they all disappeared from the directory after one of my goofs.

William and all the others, many thanks for all the volunteer time and talent.


"... a bad app_info.xml file - just one line:"
<app_info>


Since the line that do the merge is this:
for %%s in (*.aistub) do echo %%s & type %%s | find /v "app_info" >> app_info.xml

... can you check that you have 'find' in your system (in CMD prompt)


I tested now (in temp directory with some .aistub files in it) and if I change the line to this:
for %%s in (*.aistub) do echo %%s & pause & type %%s | find /v "app_info" >> app_info.xml

... I can see it step by step.


And if I change the line to this the file is aborted:
for %%s in (*.aistub) do echo %%s & pause & type %%s | ffinddd /v "app_info" >> app_info.xml

(aborted since this command do not exist: ffinddd)

We discussed this issue ('empty' app_info.xml - just <app_info> in it) with Richard today (or yesterday?) but I only now have come to this idea.

1676) Message boards : Number crunching : BoincTasks Suspending VLAR's (Message 1376113)
Posted 3 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
But on most cards, VLARs cause some serious problems.
That's why I added an optional suspend and abort in the new 1.48.

I would like an option to auto-suspend them (VLARs on the GPU) during usage of the computer (to avoid lag)
and auto-unsuspend them after set 'idle' time of not using the computer (no keyboard/mouse activity)

1677) Questions and Answers : Windows : I am not completing GPU task under Ver.703 (Message 1376031)
Posted 3 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Sorry - your GPU is incompatible with this application.
It is project (server) fault that they send this app to your GPU

http://lunatics.kwsn.net/downloads/Lunatics%20ReadMev0.40.txt

"The ATI MB application will not work on ATI cards with workgroup size 128
(e.g. HD43xx). To check workgroupsize run CLinfo, downloadable (at present)
from {http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/clinfo.zip}
It will, however, probably work on HD53xx & HD63xx with workgroup size 128.
"

That is why the tasks fail:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3021222475

1678) Questions and Answers : Windows : No new v7 yet and am on day "few" (Message 1375999)
Posted 3 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
1. I have changed the direction in the computer preferences for Skip image file verification to "Yes".

Did you ever used the local (in BOINC Manager) preferences? (if so they are in effect and not the web preferences with the same function)
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Local_preferences

If you use them do the change (Skip image file verification) there:




1679) Questions and Answers : Windows : No new v7 yet and am on day "few" (Message 1375401)
Posted 2 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I thought there was a problem on my side with all the "Download failed" activity, until I read some of the other threads on here.

In fact the problem on your side - Your ISP re-compresses .jpg files:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3024716015

Stderr output

<core_client_version>7.0.64</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
app_version download error: couldn't get input files:
<file_xfer_error>
<file_name>seti_700.jpg</file_name>
<error_code>-200</error_code>
</file_xfer_error>

</message>
]]>


To remedy:
Computing preferences:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global

At the very bottom set:
Skip image file verification? Yes

1680) Message boards : News : SETI@home Version 7 has been released (Message 1375367)
Posted 2 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
(and the new Lunatics installer is coming in a few days (maybe tomorrow))


So, why not releasing an updated Lunatics app in parallel with switching to V7? It would have avoided many apps user to feel p***** off.

Therefore I doubt a close relationship between SAH admins and Lunatics. The release plans were not synchronized in any way.

Contrary the opposite (<- if this is correct English)

AFAIK the release of Lunatics installer was intentionally postponed (to see how the stock SETI@home v7 will 'go wild' by itself)

1681) Message boards : News : SETI@home Version 7 has been released (Message 1375280)
Posted 2 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The SAH admins and the Lunatics crew work very close together.

I doubt. If so, the SAH admins would have been waited for the Lunatics programmers to come up with a new application designed for V7 WU. One of the points I criticise most.

You "doubt" without knowledge - all the new apps are made by Lunatics

You can see this even in the News:
"My thanks to the KWSN/lunatics folks for getting this done and especially to Raistmer, Jason, Josef, Urs, Claggy, Mike, Richard, ..."

(and the new Lunatics installer is coming in a few days (maybe tomorrow))

1682) Message boards : News : SETI@home Version 7 has been released (Message 1375117)
Posted 2 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Not the way I see it.
Computers that spit invalid results have to be punished somehow.

One should not punish someone ...

I didn't say "punish someone" (human, user), I say punish "Computers that spit invalid results"
(and by 'punish' I mean in this case to only reduce the tasks those Computers can have per day until the Computer is fixed, not let those Computers burn through 1000s of tasks and generate invalids)

1683) Message boards : News : AVG 2013 virus scanner false positive on SETI@home 7 for Windows (Message 1375111)
Posted 2 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The only 'red' is from ClamAV - PUA.Win32.Packer.UpxProtector

PUA stands for "Potentially Unwanted Application", which means that ClamAV has decided the only use for compressed executables is for "bad things". ClamAV could decompress them and scan the decompressed executable for viruses like nearly every other virus scanner does. I will suggest that to them.

I was using executable compression 20+ years ago so my entire program suite would fit on a single 5.25" standard-density floppy disk.

Me too. I used PKLite and LZEXE

Packers & Unpackers:
http://www.woodmann.com/crackz/Packers.htm

http://bellard.org/lzexe.html


P.S.
PUA stands for "Potentially Unwanted Application"

For those that don't know - sometimes it is called PUP (depends on the terminology of the antivirus)
PUP (Potentially Unwanted Program)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potentially_Unwanted_Program#Grayware


Personal opinion:
I think that some antivirus vendors intentionally report anything that looks slightly suspicious
(e.g. Packers; or BOINC downloading .exe and .dll files in the background and starting/using them)
so unexperienced users are convinced "Oh, yes, MY antivirus is working, I spend my money for a good" ;)

1684) Message boards : News : SETI@home Version 7 has been released (Message 1375105)
Posted 2 Jun 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Only errors: hostid=6598140.

What is here the problem?


Could be a bad/overheating card or bad driver. My bigger concern is why the daily quotas are being reduced when the invalid results are found. That needs to be fixed.

Please do Not 'fix' this.
Computers that spit invalid results have to be punished somehow.
Else they will do that for 1000s of tasks per day.

Bigger issue is when 2 bad results (wrong overflow) match each other (so are marked valid) and the real good result is marked as invalid.

1685) Message boards : News : AVG 2013 virus scanner false positive on SETI@home 7 for Windows (Message 1374180)
Posted 31 May 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The linked files on previous posts ... don't trigger any warning neither with the free version of Avast neither with the last Norton Antivirus...

The same 'no-problem' with ESET NOD32 Antivirus 4.2.71.2 - 32 bit
setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86_unpacked.exe	1 670 144 
setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86_repacked.exe	  448 512 
setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe 		  484 352 

No warning during download (using SRWare Iron - save to Desktop)
No warning from manual scan (using context menu - Scan with ESET NOD32 Antivirus ('Heuristics' + 'Advanced Heuristics' is ON as is by default))
No any warning on VirusTotal (for the 3 files - Reanalyse)

I also did scans (only for setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe) on two other sites (because they may use different sensitivity of heuristics):
http://r.virscan.org/report/ad516e9d1dbb92525bfac9b980d5a2e3.html
http://virusscan.jotti.org/en/scanresult/2a8530b92a70edc5eda8d9a1e6584441822c2719

The only 'red' is from ClamAV - PUA.Win32.Packer.UpxProtector

1686) Message boards : Number crunching : "Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of SETI@home Enhanced" errors (Message 1370804)
Posted 23 May 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I think you can use MB7_win_x86_SSE2_CPU_r1717_nonIPP_FFTW.7z from here:
http://mikesworldnet.de/produkte.html

I don't know what is 'nonIPP', maybe this?:
http://software.intel.com/en-us/intel-ipp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Performance_Primitives

1687) Questions and Answers : Windows : Bionic Not Running Error after "upgrade" (Message 1370799)
Posted 23 May 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
When I tried to install it, I got a message boinc.msi not found.


BOINC FAQ Service - BOINC.msi cannot be found
http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?language=1&view=119

"It's really a Windows problem, not so much a BOINC problem. No need to complain that BOINC needs to fix this, as BOINC cannot fix problems that are made by Windows!"

1688) Message boards : Number crunching : "While processor usage is less than __ percent" doesn't work (Message 1370297)
Posted 21 May 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Hal I figured he's Russian ...


If he's Russian
then you are New Zealand ;)

1689) Message boards : Number crunching : Open beta for OpenCL AstroPulse for Intel GPUs started (Message 1369943)
Posted 20 May 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Since intel GPU has no plan class you might get some marked as CPU.
Just for Info.

But in BOINC Manager I think they will be shown as:
astropulse_v6 6.04 (opencl_intel_100)


I decide this by looking what is in AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_Intel.aistub

<app_name>astropulse_v6</app_name>
<version_num>604</version_num>
<plan_class>opencl_intel_100</plan_class>

1690) Message boards : Number crunching : "While processor usage is less than __ percent" doesn't work (Message 1369643)
Posted 19 May 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... in order to prevent an overheating of the processor.

Then you may better use this program (I use it and many other posters here also use it)
TThrottle
http://www.efmer.eu/boinc/

(in BOINC you set 100% and in TThrottle you set (type) the Max temperature you want for CPU and GPU separately)

Edit:
If you check [v] Expert on the first tab you can Throttle any program (.exe), just add the name to the list:
"All processes that start with this name will be found. So you don't have to type the complete name."
http://www.efmer.eu/boinc/tthrottle_manual.html

1691) Message boards : Number crunching : "While processor usage is less than __ percent" doesn't work (Message 1369599)
Posted 19 May 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Orange peaks in the graph indicate that BOINC uses the processor. I want to stop it.

By "BOINC uses the processor" do you mean boincmgr.exe and boinc.exe
or do you mean the SETI apps (setiathome_6.03_windows_intelx86.exe)?

Project CPU apps run at Low priority so will have almost no impact on the speed of other programs. (maybe only the usage of CPU cache by many programs may have some effect)
(but 'Use GPU while computer is in use' may have big impact (if you feel screen lag, unresponsiveness))

You may try some benchmark like LinX (linpack) (or do real Freemake Video Converter test with real file)
- run it with no BOINC (exit BOINC)
- then start BOINC, set it to 'Use at most 100 % CPU time' and 'use at most 100 % of the processors' and run the benchmark again
1692) Message boards : Number crunching : "While processor usage is less than __ percent" doesn't work (Message 1369577)
Posted 19 May 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
CPU usage is set to 20%, while processor usage is less than 10 percent.

As I don't understand this sentence (you mix 2 different settings?)
first tell us what do you want to accomplish.

I may only guess:
you show you run Freemake Video Converter, it uses 60% CPU, and SETI is using 0%
So "While processor usage is less than X percent" is working as it is designed (= BOINC will stop the computations if other program uses >10% CPU (per your settings))

What is the meaning of "While processor usage is less than X percent" and "Use at most X % CPU time" you may read here:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Local_preferences#Processor_usage


Screenshot of this window will be more useful:




Or post the contents of global_prefs_override.xml like this:
<global_preferences>
   <run_on_batteries>0</run_on_batteries>
   <run_if_user_active>1</run_if_user_active>
   <run_gpu_if_user_active>0</run_gpu_if_user_active>
   <idle_time_to_run>7.000000</idle_time_to_run>
   <suspend_cpu_usage>0.000000</suspend_cpu_usage>
   <start_hour>0.000000</start_hour>
   <end_hour>0.000000</end_hour>
   <net_start_hour>0.000000</net_start_hour>
   <net_end_hour>0.000000</net_end_hour>
   <leave_apps_in_memory>0</leave_apps_in_memory>
   <confirm_before_connecting>1</confirm_before_connecting>
   <hangup_if_dialed>0</hangup_if_dialed>
   <dont_verify_images>0</dont_verify_images>
   <work_buf_min_days>4.200000</work_buf_min_days>
   <work_buf_additional_days>3.000000</work_buf_additional_days>
   <max_ncpus_pct>100.000000</max_ncpus_pct>
   <cpu_scheduling_period_minutes>13000.000000</cpu_scheduling_period_minutes>
   <disk_interval>77.000000</disk_interval>
   <disk_max_used_gb>1.500000</disk_max_used_gb>
   <disk_max_used_pct>10.000000</disk_max_used_pct>
   <disk_min_free_gb>0.200000</disk_min_free_gb>
   <vm_max_used_pct>75.000000</vm_max_used_pct>
   <ram_max_used_busy_pct>77.000000</ram_max_used_busy_pct>
   <ram_max_used_idle_pct>88.000000</ram_max_used_idle_pct>
   <max_bytes_sec_up>0.000000</max_bytes_sec_up>
   <max_bytes_sec_down>0.000000</max_bytes_sec_down>
   <cpu_usage_limit>100.000000</cpu_usage_limit>
   <daily_xfer_limit_mb>0.000000</daily_xfer_limit_mb>
   <daily_xfer_period_days>0</daily_xfer_period_days>
</global_preferences>

1693) Questions and Answers : Windows : Astropulse with >18% CPU while Boinc is suspended (Message 1369535)
Posted 19 May 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I did everything you suggested before you suggested it, I wouldn't of posted if I hadn't.

I didn't notice 'New member'
My conclusion is based on your one-line post with only one sentence of info:
"I tried suspending everything cpu, gpu, network" (and network is irrelevant)
No, I will not ask "did you try ..." since you explicitly say what you tried (cpu, gpu, network)

So you now claim that even BOINC Exit (so no boinc.exe in memory) do not stop OpenCL AstroPulse from running?
That will be very strange. (AstroPulse app have to exit in a few seconds)
Can you tell us how do you 'exit BOINC'? (some people only exit BOINC Manager (boincmgr.exe) but that will not stop any processing)


the problem seems to be fixed since it no longer occurs. So all is good :)

But I'm not aware of any change in the stock app, if there is change there will be new version number (e.g. opencl_nvidia_101):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6993674&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=12

And the 'real' version is in the Stderr (one of your tasks):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2999129267
Windows x86 rev 1316, V6 match, by Raistmer

So why now 'all is good' is mystery (something changed in your computer?)

1694) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : OpenCL on Intel HD Graphics 4000 not recognized (Message 1369530)
Posted 19 May 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... but when I connected the monitor to it, it started working...

So Intel drivers have the same problem as Nvidia a few years ago (drivers at that time did not detect computing capabilities when no monitor is connected. So people invented 'dummy plug')


I installed the Intel application and Boinc is requesting work for it from Seti but haven't received any. Reply is "no tasks available", only for ATI/AMD GPU.

Ask this in "Open beta for OpenCL AstroPulse for Intel GPUs started" so people which use this app can give you advice what to do:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70717

Astropulse tasks are not always available but since you have no problems to get them for CPU and NVIDIA GPU (and all the tasks are the same):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6969332&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=12

... probably there is something 'special' to do (OpenCL apps for Intel GPUs is 'new uncharted territory' for BOINC)

1695) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : OpenCL on Intel HD Graphics 4000 not recognized (Message 1368812)
Posted 17 May 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

What GPU Caps Viewer say:
http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/

If it detects OpenCL on Intel GPU try to run the OpenCL tests ('demos') in it.

Try to (temporarily) attach (to the Intel GPU) a monitor or a 'dummy plug':
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1233763&postcount=10
http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=167450

1696) Questions and Answers : Windows : Astropulse with >18% CPU while Boinc is suspended (Message 1368774)
Posted 17 May 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I tried suspending everything ..... I have to end process it to stop it.

No, you didn't "tried suspending everything" - you didn't try to:
- suspend the task (and resume it)
- suspend the project (and resume it)
- exit BOINC and start it again

Next time instead of "end process to stop it" (which ends in error and no credit for the work done on the task)
do one of the 3 'things' above.

('they' are working on a fix (the 'fix' is already done and probably the new app is already put on test at SETI@home/AstroPulse Beta)

This post by Raistmer (the developer of the app) make me think he found a solution/workaround for the problem:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71581&postid=1367026#1367026
)

1697) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI Radeon Series 4 with WINDOWS XP (Message 1368763)
Posted 17 May 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The problem is:
max WG size: 128
Max work group size: 128
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3000894386
(You can't fix this - it is in hardware)

SETI OpenCL apps need WG size: 256

(The thread title is not correct, e.g. Radeon HD 48xx can run these apps)

Uncheck 'Use ATI GPU' here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

You can try to use this GPU for other projects (but I don't know on which project it will work)

1698) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : New OpenCL. Need some clarification. (Message 1367827)
Posted 14 May 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Read this:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Anonymous_platform

... to find:
- how to name the file (app_info.xml and not appinfo)
- it's structure (e.g. begin/end tags)
- where to put it
- that it have to contain info about ALL the apps that you want to run

Almost any error in app_info.xml will lead to BOINC delete all the tasks on board!

If you put in app_info.xml only the info for OpenCL Intel GPU app
you will of course lose all other tasks (CPU, CUDA, ...) and not get any new for those devices.
Only astropulse_v6 for Intel GPU OpenCL will be downloaded (if available and if app_info.xml is correct).

1699) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Graphics Driver Failing (Message 1367786)
Posted 14 May 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Is this SETI@home task the likely cause?

The CUDA apps load the GPUs to high degree.
It may be that the PSU is not supplying enough power to support full load of 2 GPUs?

Try to run for test other GPU intensive apps, e.g. 'Demos' in GPU Caps Viewer (especially "Furry Cube"):
http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/

I don't know if it can run on both GPUs at the same time -
maybe start several instances of GPU Caps Viewer, choose different GPU at the top, start "Furry Cube" demo.

Monitor the GPU loads and temperatures for both GPUs.
GPU Caps Viewer have its own indication but I prefer to look in SIV - System Information Viewer:
http://rh-software.com/
http://rh-software.com/downloads/siv.zip

1700) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Zotac GT 430 (Message 1367774)
Posted 14 May 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Your 3-years old post say:
bcdedit /set CONFIGACCESSPOLICY DISALLOWMMCONFIG

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60282&postid=1002225#1002225

More info:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-performance/pci-and-agp-devices-not-recognized-win7-64-asus/1a1a0b9f-de4b-490d-a813-b68edc00c831
http://www.w7forums.com/win-7-not-detecting-pci-cards-slots-t2730.html

http://www.viaarena.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-33197.html

http://www.geoffchappell.com/notes/windows/boot/editoptions.htm

This is another Workaround for "Code 12" error:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/942959/en-us

(Just now I have the same issue on Vista32
(not used it for a year, hardware changes in that time, probably the problem is because of added ATI GPU + more RAM, now PCIe show "Code 12" because of memory address conflict)
XP32 on the same machine is OK)

1701) Questions and Answers : Getting started : whitelist domains for BOINC / Seti@Home? (Message 1366110)
Posted 9 May 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you only do SETI (and no other projects) *.berkeley.edu may (almost?) work.

If you look inside boinc.exe (e.g. by hex editor) and search for http:/ you will see some hard-coded links:
http://www.google.com/ (used by BOINC to check that Internet is working OK)
http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols (for debug/crash reports)

1702) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : New OpenCL. Need some clarification. (Message 1366105)
Posted 9 May 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Read this:
Open beta for OpenCL AstroPulse for Intel GPUs started:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70717

1703) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : 7.0.64 crunching without GPU possible? (Message 1365870)
Posted 8 May 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... it rarely goes above 2 or 3 percent GPU usage

This is normal with new NVIDIA drivers (like yours 314.22 ; IIRC drivers > 270 act like this)

(Which programs do you use to monitor GPU load? E.g.:
TechPowerUp GPU-Z
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

SIV - System Information Viewer
http://rh-software.com/
http://rh-software.com/downloads/siv.zip
)

You need to free a CPU core to fix low % GPU usage

I think you use Local preferences (in BOINC Manager):
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Local_preferences#Advanced_view

so set:
On multiprocessor systems, use at most 99 % of the processors

This will free one CPU core (one less CPU task will be run)



1704) Questions and Answers : Windows : SETI@home (Message 1363074)
Posted 1 May 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

By "cache" here we mean these two values:
Maintain enough tasks to keep busy for at least XX days
... and up to an additional YY days

(total "cache" is XX + YY days and means all the work (total sum of tasks) from all projects in calendar days)

Set them to e.g. 3 + 0.1 days here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global

(You may want to set Einstein@Home to 'No new tasks' first if you want to load mainly SETI@home tasks:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Advanced_view#The_Projects_tab

Since SETI@home is now in 'Initial Catch Up' after 'Weekly Outage' tasks are grabbed fast (as soon as created) so you may see often:
SETI@home 01.05.2013 07:02:11 Message from server: Project has no tasks available

See 'Results ready to send' (Results = tasks):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html

But Graphs show they are flowing:
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=/router-interfaces/inr-211/gigabitethernet6_17&ranges=d%3Aw&view=Octets
)

You now have 2 Einstein@Home and 1 SETI@home tasks 'In progress':
http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/results.php?hostid=7108251&offset=0&show_names=1&state=1&appid=0
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6927146&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1&appid=


EXIT: Right-click the BOINC icon near the clock

To see and copy the Messages find 'Event Log' in menus or use Ctrl+Shift+E
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Advanced_view#The_Event_Log_window

Switch to 'Advanced View' first (SHIFT+CTRL+A and SHIFT+CTRL+V switch between the 2 Views)
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Simple_View#Top_Bar_Menu
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Advanced_view#BOINC_Manager_Menus

1705) Message boards : Number crunching : problem with PC shutdown (Message 1362622)
Posted 29 Apr 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
One of my PCs (5774790 running windows 7) has developed an annoying habit. Everytime I logout, restart or shut down the PC with Boinc running, all current tasks and about 6 new ones crash with computational errors.
Can anyone suggest a solution?


Try if this (WaitToKillAppTimeout, WaitToKillServiceTimeout) will help:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68120&postid=1326359#1326359

1706) Message boards : Number crunching : I hate this But ! (Message 1362387)
Posted 29 Apr 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You may try to underclock the CPU and RAM to see if this returns stability.
And/or increase the RAM timings from the default 9-9-9-24 (to e.g. 10-10-10-30)
http://www.corsair.com/tw3x4g1333c9a.html#tab5

Also remove this stick of RAM and put the other in its place.
Check for dirt/dust on the stick contacts and in the RAM slots.

1707) Message boards : News : Server Relocation (Message 1353121)
Posted 4 Apr 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

They are already:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71212&postid=1353112#1353112

http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=/router-interfaces/inr-211/gigabitethernet6_17&ranges=d%3Aw&view=Octets

1708) Message boards : Number crunching : Don't forget about the Server Relocation on 1st of April ! (Message 1353112)
Posted 4 Apr 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Not same here.
I get sometimes tasks (obviously when feeder is not empty at the exact time of my request) and they download VERY fast:

904 SETI@home 04.04.2013 06:31:49 Requesting new tasks for GPU
905 SETI@home 04.04.2013 06:31:52 Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
906 SETI@home 04.04.2013 06:31:52 Message from server: Project has no tasks available
907 SETI@home 04.04.2013 06:36:57 Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
908 SETI@home 04.04.2013 06:36:57 Requesting new tasks for GPU
909 SETI@home 04.04.2013 06:37:00 Scheduler request completed: got 2 new tasks
910 SETI@home 04.04.2013 06:37:02 Started download of ap_01dc12ag_B4_P0_00042_20130314_27195.wu
911 SETI@home 04.04.2013 06:37:02 Started download of ap_24jl12ai_B0_P1_00246_20130403_19995.wu
912 SETI@home 04.04.2013 06:37:17 Finished download of ap_01dc12ag_B4_P0_00042_20130314_27195.wu
913 SETI@home 04.04.2013 06:37:18 Finished download of ap_24jl12ai_B0_P1_00246_20130403_19995.wu





956 SETI@home 04.04.2013 07:18:10 Requesting new tasks for CPU
957 SETI@home 04.04.2013 07:18:13 Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
958 SETI@home 04.04.2013 07:18:13 Message from server: Project has no tasks available
959 SETI@home 04.04.2013 07:23:18 Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
960 SETI@home 04.04.2013 07:23:18 Requesting new tasks for GPU
961 SETI@home 04.04.2013 07:23:22 Scheduler request completed: got 4 new tasks
962 SETI@home 04.04.2013 07:23:24 Started download of ap_01dc12ac_B5_P0_00178_20130403_03240.wu
963 SETI@home 04.04.2013 07:23:24 Started download of ap_24jl12ai_B0_P1_00356_20130403_19995.wu
964 SETI@home 04.04.2013 07:23:24 Started download of ap_29no12af_B0_P1_00110_20130307_03446.wu
965 SETI@home 04.04.2013 07:23:24 Started download of ap_29no12af_B0_P1_00168_20130307_03446.wu
966 SETI@home 04.04.2013 07:23:43 Finished download of ap_29no12af_B0_P1_00110_20130307_03446.wu
967 SETI@home 04.04.2013 07:23:47 Finished download of ap_24jl12ai_B0_P1_00356_20130403_19995.wu
968 SETI@home 04.04.2013 07:23:49 Finished download of ap_29no12af_B0_P1_00168_20130307_03446.wu
969 SETI@home 04.04.2013 07:23:50 Finished download of ap_01dc12ac_B5_P0_00178_20130403_03240.wu

(do not mind the green - it is not SETI trafic)



1709) Message boards : Number crunching : BAtch of errors that are not errors (Message 1346620)
Posted 14 Mar 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

These are ghost vlar tasks that can't be resent to your GPU
(they never reached your computer)

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6598565&offset=0&show_names=1&state=6&appid=

Read:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67539
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64332
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69434

Edit:
Wow, too late - several posts till I compose mine ;)

1710) Questions and Answers : Windows : SETI not using all my CPUs (Message 1344329)
Posted 9 Mar 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
All that tells me is which project the work unit is from, ...

It shows the Application name, not the project (it is coincidence that sometimes the Application name contains the name of the project but not always)

Similar Application names are shown on the web:

the Application names "SETI@home Enhanced v6.10 (cuda_fermi)" and "SETI@home Enhanced v6.03":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6856975&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=2

the Application names "AstroPulse v6 v6.04 (opencl_nvidia_100)", "AstroPulse v6 v6.04 (cuda_opencl_100)", "AstroPulse v6 v6.01" (all from SETI@home but do not contain the name of the project):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6856975&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=12


Example from another project:
on Asteroids@home
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/

the Application name is "Period Search Application v100.00":
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/results.php?hostid=110

1711) Questions and Answers : Windows : SETI not using all my CPUs (Message 1344217)
Posted 8 Mar 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
How can you tell if a work unit is for the CPU or for the GPU?

Look in Application column (Sort by it and of course resize it to see all the text):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64710&postid=1124286#1124286

1712) Questions and Answers : Windows : No time-power-frequency graph (Message 1343493)
Posted 6 Mar 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Empty Frequency-Power-Time graph
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69101

Most probably due to some incompatibility between Intel HD Graphics driver and the SETI@home screensaver

1713) Questions and Answers : Windows : location of work unit files (Message 1343477)
Posted 6 Mar 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

There is list of "BOINC add-on software":
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/addons.php

I use BoincTasks, TThrottle, BoincLogX, SETI@home-MapView

1714) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Control Default Priority for CUDA Jobs (Message 1343272)
Posted 5 Mar 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So ... my question is how to make this happen automatically ...

There exist 3-rd party tools for that:

eFMer Priority
http://www.efmer.eu/forum_tt/index.php?topic=198.0

Process Lasso (has many other features)
http://bitsum.com/prolasso.php

1715) Questions and Answers : Windows : What Are Computational Errors? (Message 1342393)
Posted 2 Mar 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You are using the 'unfortunate' combination of Kepler GPU + new drivers + stock CUDA app:
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 (1024MB) driver: 310.70
SETI@home Enhanced v6.10 (cuda_fermi)

The stock CUDA app is a few years old and until they fix it:
You need Solution 2) c) from here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69735

(Set an environment variable CUDA_GRID_SIZE_COMPAT)

And if you had read the posts - this same advice was already given in the beginning of this thread
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70473&postid=1324731#1324731

1716) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Nivdia Problems (Message 1342378)
Posted 2 Mar 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT (256MB) driver: 314.07

Not the app fault.

The problem is you don't have enough free GPU memory:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2849412150
Error on call (cu_err = cudaMalloc((void**) &dev_PowerSpectrumSumMax, sizeof(*dev_PowerSpectrumSumMax) * NumDataPoints*2 / 8)), file c:/[Projects]/X_CudaMB/client/cuda/cudaAcceleration.cu, line 458: out of memory
Exiting

(probably newer NVIDIA driver version uses more GPU memory)

You may try to disable Aero (the glass effect) to free video RAM

You may also try some of the newer apps (read the README_x41zc.txt file inside the .7z to choose the proper app)
http://jgopt.org/download.html

1717) Message boards : Number crunching : Error (Message 1338388)
Posted 15 Feb 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
so why did seti send me a Astropluse unit when the settings are set not to ???

Since you didn't copy/post the exact settings we can only wonder how are they set.

Instead of "the settings are set not to" more informative is to just copy the lines, e.g.:

SETI@home Enhanced: yes
Astropulse v505: no
SETI@home v7: no
AstroPulse v6: yes
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? yes


And without exact information from you I can only guess you forget to set:
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? NO


P.S.
To protect your CPU/GPU from overheating use TThrottle
http://www.efmer.eu/boinc/

1718) Message boards : Number crunching : Display adapter is reset by Windows 8 (Message 1338375)
Posted 15 Feb 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
14/02/2013 20:54:13 | SETI@home | Aborting task 04ja13ac.20377.16836.12.10.128_1: exceeded elapsed time limit 932.27 (11316.49G/12.14G)

I think this type of errors are caused by:
"I also upgraded the Boinc Client SW from 6.10.60 to 7.0.44"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70845&postid=1338140#1338140

Read this by Richard Haselgrove:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67785&postid=1266731#1266731

1719) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Error 417 (Message 1338130)
Posted 14 Feb 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Where?

1720) Questions and Answers : Windows : unable to connect to core client (Message 1337632)
Posted 13 Feb 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
"Please select a client to monitor" along with a box that says host name and another that says password. Do you know what I need to put in these boxes to get it operational on both accounts?


Try:
host name: localhost
password: (leave empty/blank)


If empty/blank password do not work - try the password found in the file:
gui_rpc_auth.cfg

1721) Message boards : Number crunching : Question - Computer power usage? idle/cpu/gpu (Message 1337616)
Posted 13 Feb 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I know the GPU's always say they require a high PSU (500w+ on a lot) so I figured that is close to what they would be pulling.

That is the needed PSU for the whole system (they estimate the consumption for CPU+MB+HDD+DVD+fans+... for 'a typical' system and add their GPU wattage to end with recommendation for 'you need at least 500 W PSU')

You may find some reviews/tests which measured the difference idle/load for your GPU

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Islands_(GPU_family)#Radeon_HD_6800

HD 6850 - maximum power draw of 127 W
HD 6870 - maximum power draw of 151 W


And I found "The Truth About Graphics Power Requirements V2, See how many watts you really need" (there are big charts):
http://forums.atomicmpc.com.au/index.php?showtopic=264

Under the 4 charts there is "List of URLs used for each card" (to reviews/tests on many sites)

1722) Message boards : Number crunching : Where did the CPU work go .......? (Message 1337602)
Posted 13 Feb 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:


This was explained so many times:

1) The tasks are the same:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67560&postid=1214246#1214246
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67251&postid=1206005#1206005

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66724&postid=1187668#1187668
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70652&postid=1330501#1330501

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70690&postid=1331602#1331602


2) The fastest resource is served first:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67846&postid=1223997#1223997
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67129&postid=1201612#1201612

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69116&postid=1274494#1274494
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69278&postid=1280568#1280568

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69581&postid=1291026#1291026


Now you need to lower your WU cache settings.
If it is now 5 (+ 0.1) days try 4, 3, 2, 1 days.

1723) Message boards : Number crunching : amd/ati wu's on Nvidia GPU ? (Message 1337593)
Posted 13 Feb 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

For my ASRock ALiveNF6G-DVI
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=ALiveNF6G-DVI

If I set:
Share Memory               [Auto]
Primary Graphics Adapter   [PCI Express]


... and I have other video card in PCIe slot (in my case AMD Radeon HD 6570)
the Onboard video (NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430) is disabled.

If I set manually some value (e.g. 64 MB (16-256 MB possible)) for 'Share Memory' both GPUs are enabled.

There is no explicit [Disabled] choice for Onboard video
(probably to avoid no video at all (black screen) if you only have the Onboard video)

1724) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU problems with NVIDIA GTX 660 (Message 1337425)
Posted 12 Feb 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Read!: "The options given are Either, or, or. In other words, choose one and try it, there's no need to use all three."

You need only:
CUDA_GRID_SIZE_COMPAT

1725) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GTX 580 running at 85-95% for the duration of crunching (Message 1335995)
Posted 9 Feb 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Those are the miracles of parallel computing.

Today's GPUs are (almost) as fast as supercomputer of only decade ago:
- your GPU NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 have 1581.1 GFLOPs "theoretical shader performance in single-precision floating point operations":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_500_Series#Products

1500 GFLOPs = 1.5 TFLOPs (TeraFLOPs)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tera-

And "As of November 2004, the Cray X1 had a maximum measured performance of 5.9 teraflops"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cray#Cray_Inc.:_2000_to_present

"The Cray X1 is ... sold by Cray Inc. since 2003 ... offering a peak speed of 12.8 gigaflops per processor."
"The largest unclassified X1 system was the 512 processor system at Oak Ridge National Laboratory"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cray_X1

512 * 12.8 = 6553.6 gigaflops = 6.55 teraflops (theoretical)

And the systems from 'Top hosts' can compute faster (if programed in CUDA and algorithm/code is highly parallel)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/top_hosts.php

"Coprocessors [8] NVIDIA GeForce GTX 690" (= 4 video cards):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5948046

1726) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : nvidia GT 610 - Potential Work Unit Production Rate? (Message 1335153)
Posted 6 Feb 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This inexpensive CUDA card supposedly will run in my [Small Form Factor] HP DC7800


Did you check the mechanical space in the case? You may need Low Profile Card
http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/GT6101GD3L
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-NVIDIA-GEFORCE-GT-610-1GB-DDR3-PCIe-Low-Profile-Graphics-Card-HDMI-DVI-VGA-/150969677171?hash=item23267e7573

http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/GT6201GD3L/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-GT620-1GD3-L-GeForce-GT-620-1GB-64-bit-DDR3-PCI-Express-2-0-x16-HDCP-R-/300850841344?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item460c1b8700

1727) Questions and Answers : Getting started : I'm new here, and I have some questions. (Message 1335142)
Posted 6 Feb 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
No one except you understand this sentence, what "current work" and how SETI can erase it?

Correct, the intent of my question was "my work so far"

Are you saying that Seti Classic and Boinc/Seti are two different projects? If so, any new work would then be calculated under Boinc/Seti?

Thanks for the help.

Click on any username that have old 'Joined' date (e.g. John McLeod VII)
You will see they have both 'Total credit' (which is from Boinc/Seti)
and 'SETI@home classic' stats.

"On December 15, 2005, after 6 years of operation, Classic SETI@home sent out its last workunit.":
http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/


There is nothing (smart or stupid) you can do (unintentionally or intentionally) to reset (lose) your stats.
(only RAC may go up and down http://www.boinc-wiki.info/RAC).

1728) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GTX 580 running at 85-95% for the duration of crunching (Message 1335023)
Posted 6 Feb 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Use TThrottle:
http://www.efmer.eu/boinc/

It will not allow to set exact GPU load% - it works on temperature.
You "Select a temperature, check "Auto active" and TThrottle handles the rest."
('the rest' means: TThrottle pauses the apps (computing threads) in short intervals and keeps the temperature at the max you selected/typed
If the temperature is below the max you selected - the device (CPU/GPU) will run at 100%
If it gets 'hot' - pauses in app will occur (which will be visible by less CPU/GPU load) to keep the temperature at the max selected (e.g. 55°C for CPU and 65°C for GPU)
)

1729) Questions and Answers : Getting started : I'm new here, and I have some questions. (Message 1335015)
Posted 6 Feb 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
BOINC Manager shows 0.00 and 0.00 work/average for Seti

Your "SETI@home classic work" is (will be) only shown in your account (it can't be converted to BOINC credit):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=65942

So, now I'm afraid to run any Seti tasks in fear that it will erase my current work.

No one except you understand this sentence, what "current work" and how SETI can erase it?
(current work means something that is currently/now in your computer)

If you wanted to say "my work so far" or "my SETI@home classic work":
'Stats' ('SETI@home classic' or BOINC/SETI total work/credit) are never erased.

1730) Questions and Answers : Web site : servor allocating AP tasks then removing (Message 1335011)
Posted 6 Feb 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

No such event is shown in your task list:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6856464&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=12

If you talk about the task that was started but completed in a few seconds:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2823104874

... it is OK:
"Error in ap_remove_radar.cpp: generate_envelope: num_ffts_performed < 100. Blanking too much RFI?"

- the task was just too noisy (contaminated by radar near Arecibo) so ended fast (no real data to analyze, only earth noise found)

You have Invalid (0) · Error (0) so no worries

1731) Message boards : Number crunching : OpenCL apps are available for download on Lunatics (Message 1333879)
Posted 2 Feb 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
My current app_info.xml have (for both MB and AP, as from the Lunatics_Win32_v0.40_setup.exe):
<plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>

... and my client_state.xml have 95 lines <plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>

(I don't have <platform>windows_intelx86</platform> in app_info.xml but client_state.xml have it for every <result>)


And in the new files:
MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi.aistub
<plan_class>ati_opencl_sah</plan_class>
<plan_class>opencl_ati_sah</plan_class>

AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI.aistub
<plan_class>ati_opencl_100</plan_class>
<plan_class>opencl_ati_100</plan_class>


If I (anybody) just replace the sections for MB and AP in app_info.xml I think the tasks will be deleted.

Is there need in .aistub files to be included another section with <plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
And what about 64 bit users? Do they need another 3 sections with <platform>windows_x86_64</platform>
Another problem is <version_num>601</version_num> for AP (as from the Lunatics_Win32_v0.40_setup.exe)

So: use the new .aistub files with care (meaning: think before use, duplicate the sections and edit to fit your current situation)

1732) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1333820)
Posted 2 Feb 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If you have a problem it would be much better to try to solve it over in the number crunching forum.


Suggestions (link?) to a current thread dealing with such issues? Would rather put it in the "right place" than start a new thread.

The problem is you don't follow the links.

How else you can explain your "Searched high and low for an older version of CCC. Found one."
after the 2 posts by Claggy with 3 proper links and explanations what to do?

1733) Message boards : Number crunching : astropulse GPU (Message 1332376)
Posted 29 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I upgraded AP r555 -> r1363. It works, same speed as before on ATI (with a single 6.04 wu completed).

You have AMD Radeon HD 6x00 series (Turks) (1024MB) driver: 1.4.1741 on Windows 7
I have AMD Radeon HD 6570 (AMD ATI unknown (1024MB) driver: 1.4.1646) on Windows XP

For me AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r1316.exe works faster than AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r555.exe
(I don't know the speed difference between r1316 and r1363)

WU : ap_Zblank_9LC67.wu 
AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r555.exe -verbose -unroll 3 :
  Elapsed 989.422 secs
      CPU 250.969 secs
AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r1316.exe -verbose -unroll 3 :
  Elapsed 756.250 secs, speedup: 23.57%  ratio: 1.31x
      CPU 63.156 secs, speedup: 74.84%  ratio: 3.97x




1734) Message boards : Number crunching : Reseting BOINC (Message 1331716)
Posted 26 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Something is going wrong with my WHS Connector software ...

If that causes lost net connection - yes, I think I remember something about 'bug' in BOINC (or in libcurl.dll ?)
- boinc.exe uses synchronous DNS and waits 'forever' for response from DNS server so boinc.exe do not communicate with the apps for too long and they exit.


can not cut and paste between computers (unless I were to pay for LogMeIn)

TeamViewer allow this in free version - there is option (Advanced - Clipboard synchronization)
http://www.teamviewer.com/

1735) Message boards : Number crunching : Yet another Linux GPU/CUDA Apps thread. (Message 1331417)
Posted 26 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I don't know what is "boinc-nvidia-cuda"

What did you get?:
http://www.arkayn.us/forum/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=cat57
http://www.arkayn.us/forum/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=cat5

http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=1

1736) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC keeps processing even after closing the client (Message 1331413)
Posted 26 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I'm not sure what you are talking about?
(and mind: it is very improbable some of the main BOINC developers will read here)

What do you men by "closing the client"?
If you mean "I click [X] at the top-right on the BOINC Manager window" this is for sure NOT "closing the client", this is "Hide BOINC Manager window in systray".

The same is for many programs like Skype, antivirus, µTorrent, Alcohol 120%, TeamViewer, ... - click [X] for them means "Hide window in systray"


I know all I have to do is check the dialog box in the options to ask for confirmation when closing BOINC ...

You need to choose just once (in the 'confirmation box'):
- stop running the tasks when exiting
- remember choice (and the 'confirmation box' will not show in the next exit)

("closing the client" means "sending signal to boinc.exe ('the client') to exit"
Choosing Exit from tray icon is command to boincmgr.exe to exit.
boincmgr.exe can (by your choice) to make boinc.exe exit also but it is not mandatory (and only depends on user choice)

boinc.exe can be used on its own (without the Manager) and be controlled by boinccmd.exe or program as BoincTasks
)

1737) Questions and Answers : Windows : Trouble with BOINC (Message 1331409)
Posted 26 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If one reads the *fixes* that have been suggested, and the FACT that they *HAVE* been applied, PLUS that when a restart occurs ALL projects STILL disappear, *THEN* BOINC does NOT PROPERLY function, despite YOUR assertions.[/b]

Where is your DATA directory?

You suspect it is on RAM drive? Or disk cache is not written to disk?

By "ALL projects disappear" I think he means "ALL tasks disappear"

From his first post: "I lose ALL tasks, and end up with "Lost tasks loading"."
If he loses DATA directory then he have to attach to projects again possibly getting new HostID (in which case "Lost tasks loading" ('Resent lost task') will not happen)

1738) Message boards : Number crunching : Yet another Linux GPU/CUDA Apps thread. (Message 1331399)
Posted 26 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I think is not hard to combine several opt packages (CPU + GPU) (but mind I don't run Linux)

- put all the files from all packages in the SETI directory
- do chmod +x if needed for the executables
- merge/concatenate all app_info.xml files into one and delete the lines in the middle:
</app_info>
<app_info>

(you have to have only one tag <app_info> in the beginning and one tag </app_info> at the end of file)

1739) Message boards : Number crunching : astropulse GPU (Message 1331232)
Posted 25 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You may use this package to find the proper count (exit BOINC first):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69136&postid=1300787#1300787

(inside are AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_NV_r1316.exe , libfftw3f-3.dll , AstroPulse_Kernels_r1316.cl)

1740) Message boards : Number crunching : Reseting BOINC (Message 1331223)
Posted 25 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have started getting a lot of "exited with zero status but no "finished" file" messages and it keeps telling me to Reset BOINC.

The message is:
"If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project."

Don't do that (the reset) - it will not help.
This message is intended for stock users in case they received broken .exe file (e.g. partial download)

"exited with zero status but no 'finished' file" may be caused by:
- heavy load on the CPU/HDD by some other program (e.g. antivirus scheduled scan)
- realtime antivirus protection locking files for too long (while checking them 'on-the-fly')
- computer clock fluctuating back/forth in time (by more than 30 s)

("exited with zero status but no 'finished' file" does not cause the tasks to error, they restart from the checkpoint)

1741) Questions and Answers : Windows : Trouble with BOINC (Message 1331207)
Posted 25 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Then why this happens only on your computer? (at least you are the only one posting about this AFAIK)

Why 431882 computers can use Microsoft Windows 7 for BOINC/SETI?:
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/0/host/breakdown/os/

Mind that we (posters here) are not BOINC developers.

Something on your system kills the processes (instead of sending them Exit signal/request)
(may be some other program, do you have some tool that claims to do 'fast/quick shutdown/restart'?)
Or your antivirus is deleting files?

And is it so difficult to exit BOINC manually before Windows restart?


Most 'tech experts' read the 'Number crunching' forum so you may ask there:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_forum.php?id=10

If you do - give (in your post/thread) this link to your first post (so people will know what is already discussed and done):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68120&postid=1326143#1326143

1742) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Does SETI@home do CPU-Only Work Any More? (Message 1330501)
Posted 23 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
wondered if SETI now only does combined CPU/GPU work ...

There is no such thing here as "combined CPU/GPU work" (save one special case of 'Hybrid optimized app' for old ATI GPUs, there is no standard app that can run SETI task simultaneously on CPU+GPU)

The tasks are the same, they are labeled 'for CPU' or 'for GPU' the moment they are sent to you.
The same task that is sent to you as 'CPU task' may/will be sent to somebody else as 'GPU task'

Examples:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1131364100
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1131492967

1743) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Any way to access pre-BOINC SETI @ Home account? (Message 1330291)
Posted 23 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70536&postid=1326354#1326354

1744) Message boards : Number crunching : Astropulse v6 errors out every time?? :-/ (Message 1330285)
Posted 23 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have no idea how you can tell that my CPU usage is too much or not enough...

"not enough"?
You mean "the other isn't using any CPU at all"? (word "using" is not proper here)
That was just observation that BOINC do not report any 'CPU time' usage by the GPU AstroPulse v6 app here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6887782&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=12

And they are talking about 'high CPU usage' ('Run time' vs 'CPU time') by the GPU app here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6608561&offset=0&show_names=0&state=2&appid=12

Compare with my ATI:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=4832843&offset=0&show_names=0&state=2&appid=12

I'm using Catalyst 11.12

You are using Catalyst Versions that cause 'high CPU usage bug':
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=114701
AMD AMD Radeon HD 6800 series (Barts) (1024MB) driver: 1.4.1417 = Catalyst 11.6
AMD ATI Radeon HD 5700 series (Juniper) (1024MB) driver: 1.4.1589 = Catalyst 11.10

Useful info:
http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet.htm

1745) Message boards : Number crunching : No CUDA devices found (Message 1330277)
Posted 23 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I better donate my CPU power to other projects then

CPU power? When the problem is with GPU CUDA?
(NVIDIA created the CUDA app, then they made changes to their architecture so their CUDA app become incompatible - first with Fermi (fixed now by 'the team') and then with Kepler (still unfixed here but under tests))

The new apps in test on Beta do not have this problem:
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/

They are the same optimized apps most of us (posters here) are using.
After the test on Beta is finished they (the new apps) will be used here.

1746) Message boards : Number crunching : No CUDA devices found (Message 1330274)
Posted 23 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Did you copy/paste CUDA_GRID_SIZE_COMPAT when you created the variable or did you type it?

Can you see the errors in these lines:
CUDA_CRID_SIZE_COMPAT
CUDA_GRID_SIZE_COMBAT
CUDA_GRlD_SIZE_COMPAT
CUDA_GRID_SIZE_COMPAT=l

You can copy from the Command Prompt by Menu -> Edit -> Mark (Alt+Space E Enter), e.g.:
CLASSPATH=.;D:\Program Files\Java\jre6\lib\ext\QTJava.zip
CLIENTNAME=Console
CommonProgramFiles=D:\Program Files\Common Files
ComSpec=D:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe
DEFAULT_CA_NR=CA18
FP_NO_HOST_CHECK=NO
HOMEDRIVE=D:

1747) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Changing run times (Message 1330271)
Posted 23 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Use 'Every day between hours of' and 'Day-of-week override:'



http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Local_preferences

Option A:
- Every day between hours of 00:00 and 00:00
- for M-F 18:00-07:00
and for Sat & Sun nothing (unchecked)

Option B:
- Every day between hours of 18:00 and 07:00
- for M-F nothing (unchecked)
and for Sat & Sun 00:00-00:00

1748) Message boards : Number crunching : No CUDA devices found (Message 1329577)
Posted 20 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have restarted the computer.

Added the environment variable.

I don't think a reboot is needed.
Probably the environment variable is not set correctly (e.g. name is wrong).

in Command Prompt type:
set

... and check that you see exactly this line (among others as COMPUTERNAME=, ComSpec=, Path=)
CUDA_GRID_SIZE_COMPAT=1

(you may copy the line to post here for others to check)

1749) Message boards : Number crunching : astropulse GPU (Message 1329068)
Posted 19 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"app_info section for NV OpenCL AP" posted by Claggy:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70264&postid=1328639#1328639

! to retain formatting (indents) - do not copy from the page but click [Quote] under the post and copy from there

1750) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Adding old account (Message 1328659)
Posted 18 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Is there anyone I could email or PM with my details that could help me link my old account?

No
('they' will have no time to deal with millions of users;
and how you can proof that you are giving your 'details' and not of someone else
(e.g. Profile and user name are public - visible to anyone))

The only 'detail' that matter is the email
So keep trying (to recall) the old email addresses

1751) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Cant resolve hostname (Message 1328652)
Posted 18 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Message from account manager: cant resolve hostname.

Login to BAM!
http://bam.boincstats.com/
... redirects to:
http://boincstats.com/en/bam/

... and see/check the projects you are attached to (the list at that (BAM!) site)
Probably there is old project (non-existing site, URL that DNS can't resolve)

1752) Message boards : Number crunching : Optimize your GPU. Find the value the easy way. (Message 1328638)
Posted 18 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do you exit BOINC before SetiPerformance test?
Try also to stop your antivirus before the test.
(something is preventing Lunatics_x41g_win32_cuda32_perf.exe to start)


Another test you may try:
Get the 'combined package' (collected by me) from this post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69136&postid=1300787#1300787

Select 'SetiPerformance Test4Test' (there are 2 versions)
Try to run it
(it starts very simple executable - no CPU or GPU usage, just wait timer)
Report is it starting.

Try also the NVIDIA AP test (AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_NV_r1316) (from the same 'combined package')

1753) Message boards : Number crunching : Added NVidia GT630 GPU, not getting expected boost (Message 1328263)
Posted 17 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I keep looking for an app_info file, but no joy. Does it need to be manually created?

app_info.xml do not exists in standard installation, it is created manually or by the Lunatics installers

You may find some info here (the links are for very new CUDA apps), read also next posts:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70264&postid=1327312#1327312

1754) Message boards : Number crunching : "Error while computing" since December 22nd (Message 1328257)
Posted 17 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6016375&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=


They (tasks) show:
too many exit(0)s
.......
WARNING: Loading binary into device failed (-42,-42); will compile from sources...
ERROR: clFFT_CreatePlan failed: -46

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2794343583

I'm not sure why 'Loading binary into device failed' and 'clFFT_CreatePlan failed'
but try to exclude BOINC Data directory from antivirus scan

1755) Questions and Answers : Windows : Trouble with BOINC (Message 1328215)
Posted 17 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
How do I make changes to the 32 bit segment of the registry?

The above registry changes are not related to BOINC, they jut tell Windows how long to wait before it kills any program at Windows restart/shutdown

So (I think) you don't need to find 'the 32 bit segment of the registry'.
Do you see those keys/values in your registry? (probably yes as you say: "I made those changes")
What delays did you set?

If you want to find all occurrences of e.g. WaitToKillAppTimeout in a single list use:
RegScanner
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/regscanner.html

(I used just WaitToKill as a search string)

1756) Message boards : Number crunching : Optimize your GPU. Find the value the easy way. (Message 1328209)
Posted 17 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Paste/start this from Run ... (Win+R or the field in Start Menu):
Explorer "%APPDATA%\eFMer\SetiPerformance\"

Go to slot0 folder

Start the test in SetiPerformance64.exe
Wait for error, do not exit SetiPerformance
Check the stderr.txt (in slot0)

1757) Message boards : Number crunching : No CUDA devices found (Message 1327936)
Posted 16 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

What means "It doesn't work"? (explain in MUCH more words)

1758) Message boards : Number crunching : Faster GPUs with Nvidia 310.70? (Message 1327933)
Posted 16 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If I understand you want CPU + GPU computing

If you have these files:
Lunatics_Win32_v0.40_setup.exe
Lunatics_Win64_v0.40_setup.exe

(exit BOINC first and)
run one of them and select only both CPU options (for AP and MB)
(there is a bug in the installer - you can't select only MB and nothing else)

Then put the files for/from x41zc_WinXX_cudaYY.7z
(if in the SETI directory there is old file MBCuda.aistub replace it with the new MBCuda.aistub from the above x41zc_WinXX_cudaYY.7z)

Run aimerge.cmd
(it will create new app_info.xml from all *.aistub files found in the directory)

Check (read) app_info.xml to see it is correct
Start BOINC

1759) Message boards : Number crunching : Faster GPUs with Nvidia 310.70? (Message 1327312)
Posted 13 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Where can the cuda 42 app be found?

http://jgopt.org/download.html
http://jgopt.net/download.html
http://jgopt.info/download.html
http://jgopt.com/download.html

1760) Message boards : Number crunching : No CUDA devices found (Message 1327311)
Posted 13 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
See solution 2 from the link i posted earlier,

Claggy


Thanks for the info.

But it is not working :(

So you did 2) c) Set an environment variable, as shown below:
CUDA_GRID_SIZE_COMPAT = 1

... and "it is not working"??

1761) Questions and Answers : Windows : What Are Computational Errors? (Message 1326400)
Posted 10 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/result.php?resultid=378072214

The "exit code -1073740940 (0xc0000374)" seems to be about "heap corruption"
http://forums.iis.net/t/1150912.aspx

So this may be faulty app as some tasks error on different computers:
http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=293007522

Do other computing programs or games on your computer crash often (e.g. several crashes per day in random moments/places)

1762) Questions and Answers : Windows : Trouble with BOINC (Message 1326385)
Posted 10 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Also read this:
WaitToKillServiceTimeout registry value does not work in Windows 7 (Hotfix Download Available)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2549760

Note:
On XP WaitToKillServiceTimeout is 20 seconds (20000 ms) by default
On Windows 7 it seems to be only 5 seconds (5000)

Obviously Microsoft thinks than today computers are fast but if there are many processes to end at restart then 5 seconds is too little time


The direct link to this Hotfix is (I think):
http://hotfixv4.microsoft.com/Windows%207/Windows%20Server2008%20R2%20SP1/sp2/Fix367694/7600/free/435571_intl_x64_zip.exe

Use at your own risk! - I do not have Windows 7

The file is 435571_intl_x64_zip.exe
It is 'SFX ZIP archive' and contains one file Windows6.1-KB2549760-x64.msu dated 19.07.2011
so this may be already installed by Windows auto-updates (e.g. if you see KB2549760 installed in history of updates)

1763) Questions and Answers : Windows : Trouble with BOINC (Message 1326359)
Posted 10 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Probably Windows 7 is Restarting too fast for BOINC to update its files (mainly client_state.xml)
(Maybe instead of waiting for BOINC to exit gracefully Windows just kills the process (boinc.exe) after a few seconds )

Before you "Restart" Windows due to updates try to manually exit BOINC first
(check/wait in Windows Task Manager that boinc.exe really disappears from the list of processes before you proceed to "Restart" Windows)


You may want to check/set:

AutoEndTasks (have to be 0)
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc978604.aspx

Increase these values (e.g. double the values)
HungAppTimeout
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc978614.aspx

WaitToKillAppTimeout
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc978624.aspx

WaitToKillServiceTimeout
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc976045.aspx


To do this: start RegEdit and go to:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control

1764) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Adding old account (Message 1326354)
Posted 10 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have old email addy but it isnt accepting,, probably deleted after all these years :) Any who,, lets find a signal :)


The link is this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php

You have to be logged-in your current account before you click the link
Then just paste the "old email addy" in the form.

(For this to work: it absolutely do not matter if "old email addy" exists/accepts letters.
If the "old email addy" is in the SETI database the above will work but only if the old account is SETI@home Classic account and not BOINC account.
(no any password needed)
)
1765) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Multiple SETI@home tasks fighting for resources? (Message 1326350)
Posted 10 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

AstroPulse tasks run longer than SETI@home Enhanced tasks if they are run on the same 'computing device'

You AstroPulse tasks are sent to be run on your GPU (AMD Radeon HD 6x00 series (Turks)), GPU is faster then the CPU so they compute in shorter time:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6882244&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=12

If you ever get an AstroPulse task to be run on your CPU it will run for 20-30 h

Before you ask: SETI@home do not currently have 'standard' app to run SETI@home Enhanced tasks on ATI GPUs:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php


About deadlines:
Tasks have different run time depending on their content (e.g. VLAR run longer), you can see 6x difference:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6882244&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=2

Lets say all your 100 "In progress SETI@home Enhanced tasks":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6882244&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1&appid=2

... will run the longest time: 36000 s = 10 h
100 tasks * 10 h = 1000 h

Your CPU can do 8 tasks simultaneously
So your CPU will need max 1000/8 = 125 h (~ 5 days)

You can see that:
100 tasks are not more than 5 days work for your CPU
The deadlines are >30 days

1766) Message boards : Number crunching : WU Received With 7 Hrs To Deadline (Message 1326006)
Posted 9 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Probably expired because the 2 original tasks were 'Completed and validated' before your task started (server sends 'delete request' to your BOINC before your task is started)
(the original Deadline was for sure Not 7 h)

1767) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Running dual graphics cards (Message 1325989)
Posted 9 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Try also SIV (the first link) - it shows much more info

1768) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Running dual graphics cards (Message 1325981)
Posted 9 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
my actual question is it actually using both ...

Check the GPU load and temperature for both GPUs with some tool

http://rh-software.com/
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/

http://event.msi.com/vga/afterburner/download.htm
http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php


The app itself is detecting both:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2786484181

setiathome_CUDA: Found 2 CUDA device(s):
   Device 1 : GeForce GTX 560 Ti 
           totalGlobalMem = 1073414144 
           sharedMemPerBlock = 49152 
           regsPerBlock = 32768 
           warpSize = 32 
           memPitch = 2147483647 
           maxThreadsPerBlock = 1024 
           clockRate = 1800000 
           totalConstMem = 65536 
           major = 2 
           minor = 1 
           textureAlignment = 512 
           deviceOverlap = 1 
           multiProcessorCount = 8 
   Device 2 : GeForce GTX 560 Ti 
           totalGlobalMem = 1073545216 
           sharedMemPerBlock = 49152 
           regsPerBlock = 32768 
           warpSize = 32 
           memPitch = 2147483647 
           maxThreadsPerBlock = 1024 
           clockRate = 1800000 
           totalConstMem = 65536 
           major = 2 
           minor = 1 
           textureAlignment = 512 
           deviceOverlap = 1 
           multiProcessorCount = 8 
setiathome_CUDA: CUDA Device 1 specified, checking...
   Device 1: GeForce GTX 560 Ti is okay
SETI@home using CUDA accelerated device GeForce GTX 560 Ti

1769) Message boards : Number crunching : how do you start lunatics x41 (Message 1325808)
Posted 8 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

No one except you can see the name ("ka-dargo"), we only see the ID 5263248

Warning: Do you understand that the way you try/want to use 'Cuda multibeam x41zc' will disable any CPU computing for SETI?
(you just rename MBCuda.aistub to app_info.xml)


So (judging from your very short 'infos') you did:
- get some of these:
http://jgopt.org/download.html

- uncompress the files to:
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\

... and now you have these (or similar) files there:
cudart32_42_9.dll
cufft32_42_9.dll
Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda42.exe

- and you renamed MBCuda.aistub to app_info.xml

??

Looking how you make typing mistakes:
- did you copy/paste the name app_info.xml during renaming? (or did you type it)

1770) Message boards : Number crunching : how do you start lunatics x41 (Message 1325794)
Posted 8 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If "it hasent worked" (which/what "it"?):

- tell us the Computer ID you are talking about:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=499851

- copy and post the first 30-40 lines from the Event Log
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Advanced_view#The_Event_Log_window


Edit:
I reread the first post and it seems you are talking about:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5263248

1771) Message boards : Number crunching : how do you start lunatics x41 (Message 1325753)
Posted 8 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

boince?
Better copy/paste (e.g. h:\BOINC-Data\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\) when you write

Other than that - look instead in Windows Task Manager to see the running apps

Application name will not change from 'setiathome_enhanced' in BOINC Manager

1772) Message boards : Number crunching : how do you start lunatics x41 (Message 1325746)
Posted 8 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
iv installed the lunatics x41 cuda 50 32 bit version, and changed it to tun 3 at a time on a nvidia geforce gt640 with 2 gig of memory on it. have restarted boinc but its not changed to anonymous platform what have i missed please les

How do you know that? (where do you look?)

1773) Questions and Answers : Windows : What Are Computational Errors? (Message 1325731)
Posted 8 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Nothing has changed in my machine at all, until the SETI server problems

The same time of "SETI server problems" and your computing problems is just a coincidence.
And if you have some automatic updates turned ON you can't be sure that "Nothing has changed in my machine at all".

I'll just do the MilkyWay jobs. They run, load and upload fine.

Not really, there are some CPU-tasks errors:
http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/results.php?hostid=439930&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=

Probably CPU is overclocked or overheating?

1774) Questions and Answers : Windows : No new work units downloading (Message 1325729)
Posted 8 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Probably your ISP is causing this by re-compressing the .jpg files:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2786176917

Stderr output
<core_client_version>7.0.28</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
app_version download error: couldn't get input files:
<file_xfer_error>
<file_name>ap_601.jpg</file_name>
<error_code>-200</error_code>
</file_xfer_error>

</message>


To try a remedy - go here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global

... and at the bottom set:
'Skip image file verification?' yes

1775) Message boards : Number crunching : Slow WU download speed (Message 1325468)
Posted 7 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Another trick is to run SIV, it has a BOINC Status page where you can configure it to retry downloads (But you're got to keep that page open, so i'm running two instances)

Claggy


Thanks! I'll try that one out along with allowing more than one transfer.. hopefully I'll be able to get down WUs fast enough without any downtime.. Thanks again! :-)

Another program which can retry downloads/uploads is BoincTasks:
http://www.efmer.eu/boinc/boinc_tasks/

Put config.xml file in the install directory (C:\Program Files\eFMer\BoincTasks\)
(you can copy it from 'examples' directory)

I have the following lines in it:
<config>
	<refresh>
		<downloads>	611	</downloads>
		<uploads>	613	</uploads>
		<refresh>	36777	</refresh>
	</refresh>
</config>

1776) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Conflicting names for project configuration (Message 1325466)
Posted 7 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
both will affect the same parameter but, obviously, they do not mean the same thing.

They mean the same thing:
BOINC will expect your "Computer is connected to the Internet about every" X days
so it will try to download enough work to "Maintain enough tasks to keep busy for at least" X days

1777) Questions and Answers : Windows : What Are Computational Errors? (Message 1325191)
Posted 6 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thanks. I did add the CUDA_GRID_SIZE_COMPAT variable and will try it. However, this is new, out of nowhere, nothing on my system changed, it just started happening AFTER the problem with the server outages.

Even the video driver version?

The "server outages" can't do that, the app is the same since:
6.10 (cuda_fermi) 8 Jun 2010

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

(New improved CUDA apps are in works/tests on SETI@home-Beta:
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/apps.php
)

1778) Questions and Answers : Preferences : CPU work load stalling every few seconds. (Message 1324625)
Posted 4 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Interesting, I never changed that setting, and it never did that before! All I did in the last few days was install a new video card.

I set it to 100% now, and will check how it performs.

I thought it didn't work too well with taking over the settings from the website. Not even when manually updating the project.

If you use local preferences they are in effect (ignoring the same preferences set on web)

Often the job cache was nowhere near what I configured either. And today it still isn't by the way. I set it to minimum of 3 days, and an additional 3 days, but it only has work for the next 17 hours, with a total of 20,5 hours of work.

Limits:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70205

1779) Questions and Answers : Preferences : CPU work load stalling every few seconds. (Message 1324618)
Posted 4 Jan 2013 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Since a day or 2 the work load on my CPU keeps bouncing from 10% up to 100%. 8 seconds of 100%, 1 or 2 seconds down to 10%, repeat.
It used to just stick to 100% as I configured it to 95%, the rest is probably taken up by windows/applications.

I'm wondering what could be causing this, and how I can prevent it from behaving this way.

Current settings:
- don't interrupt work when computer is in use (for both CPU and GPU)
- interrupt work when CPU usage higher than: --- (set to 0 for no limitation)
- use all 4 processors
- use 95% of CPU time

It's still getting work done, the problem is that the CPU fan keeps throttling up and down with the CPU load, which gets kind of annoying and might be reducing it's life.

The reason is in bold

More info here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69573&postid=1289267#1289267

1780) Message boards : Number crunching : Which drive will BOINC use? (Message 1319766)
Posted 25 Dec 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You need to set the Data directory to be on D: similar to this (mine is on H:)



1781) Message boards : Number crunching : Isn't 30 Pulses with 30 Repeating Pulses Kinda High for AstroPulse? (Message 1316784)
Posted 18 Dec 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If I had the coordinates I could look it up ...

The coordinates are in the WU files (both for astropulse and MB):
<astropulse_workunit>
<workunit_header>
  <name>ap_12no12aa_B1_P1_00195_20121217_20994.wu</name>
  <tape_info>
    <name>12no12aa</name>
    <start_time>2456243.7446014</start_time>
    <last_block_time>2456243.7747359</last_block_time>
    <last_block_done>12547</last_block_done>
    <wu_count>195</wu_count>
    <beam>1</beam>
    <polarization>1</polarization>
  </tape_info>
  <receiver_cfg>
    <s4_id>6</s4_id>
    <name>Arecibo 1.4GHz Array, Beam 1, Pol 1</name>
    <beam_width>0.0500000007</beam_width>
    <center_freq>1420</center_freq>
    <latitude>18.3538056</latitude>
    <longitude>-66.7552222</longitude>
    <elevation>497</elevation>
    <diameter>168</diameter>
    <az_orientation>180</az_orientation>
    <az_corr_coeff length=99 encoding="x-csv">
      -37,-6.05,92.35,-731.21,-1013.97,-24.53,-11.19,9.18,106.04,3.02,-1.74,
      -3.46,1.29
    </az_corr_coeff>
    <zen_corr_coeff length=99 encoding="x-csv">
      -57.55,-95.56,-4.13,141.69,677.51,-10.41,-7.71,-10.39,0.08,0.43,-0.62,
      0.03,-0.36
    </zen_corr_coeff>
    <array_az_ellipse>329.06</array_az_ellipse>
    <array_za_ellipse>384.005</array_za_ellipse>
    <array_angle>120</array_angle>
  </receiver_cfg> 



<workunit>
<workunit_header>
  <name>11no12aa.16935.59941.140733193388036.10.240.vlar</name>
  <group_info>
    <tape_info>
      <name>11no12aa</name>
      <start_time>2456243.7219106</start_time>
      <last_block_time>2456243.7219106</last_block_time>
      <last_block_done>59941</last_block_done>
      <missed>0</missed>
      <tape_quality>0</tape_quality>
      <beam>1</beam>
    </tape_info>
    <name>11no12aa.16935.59941.4.10</name>
    <data_desc>
      <start_ra>4.7084258771624</start_ra>
      <start_dec>25.722075800679</start_dec>
      <end_ra>4.7084236273757</end_ra>
      <end_dec>25.722215030445</end_dec>
      <true_angle_range>0.012500221082135</true_angle_range>
      <time_recorded>Mon Nov 12 05:19:32 2012</time_recorded>
      <time_recorded_jd>2456243.7219094</time_recorded_jd>
      <nsamples>1048576</nsamples>
      <coords>
      <coordinate_t>
        <time>2456243.7219094</time>
        <ra>4.7084258771624</ra>
        <dec>25.722075800679</dec>
      </coordinate_t>
      <coordinate_t>
        <time>2456243.7219097</time>
        <ra>4.7084259071924</ra>
        <dec>25.722075998447</dec>
      </coordinate_t> 
.............


P.S.
Notepad do not show the layout OK, use WordPad
(lines end with only LF (0A) (Unix style))

1782) Questions and Answers : Getting started : still can't edit my profile (Message 1312511)
Posted 8 Dec 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
ps: i think it's just a little bit creepy that hilary knows so much about me, ...

I'm not sure what you mean but:
- only you see your IP on the picture (everyone see their own IP)
- of course any site that shows picture in a web page knows your IP (or the IP of Proxy or VPN you are using)

e.g. these are the 3 picture visible in my posts:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/user_profile/images/8647488_avatar.jpg
http://mail.dir.bg/~bil/ALF_133x100.png
http://www.danasoft.com/sig/BilBg.jpg
(the last link generates the image dynamically to include the calling computer/browser info (you see yours, I see mine, ...))

http://www.danasoft.com/
http://www.danasoft.com/aboutdanasoft.php

1783) Questions and Answers : Getting started : still can't edit my profile (Message 1312112)
Posted 7 Dec 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
just so we're clear, i DID have an image uploaded and displaying next to my post.

1) If you don't see the new image in your profile - hit F5 (try also Ctrl+F5 Shift+F5 Alt+F5 )

2) The image "displaying next to my post" is NOT set in the profile, it is set as "Avatar" here (Community preferences):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/edit_forum_preferences_form.php

1784) Message boards : Number crunching : Okay..so, time for me to bit*h and moan (Message 1310910)
Posted 28 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Why do you send me workunits that expire 5 minutes AFTER you send them - hello?

I thought everyone who is a regular in the forums knew this by now... You get short timeouts like that when your computer asks for both CPU and GPU work and the scheduler assigns it but the message doesn't get back to your computer. Five minutes later, it asks again, but this time only for CPU. The scheduler realizes it can't send the previously assigned GPU tasks on a CPU-only request, so it times them out immediately.

:) You are close to the explanation but not exactly
Yes - it happens only if those tasks were ghosts and only if they were VLARs (first request was for CPU and some VLARs was assigned to CPU but become ghosts)
Then second request was for GPU (and VLARs are not sent to GPUs) "so it times them out immediately"

1785) Message boards : Number crunching : Firefox 64-Bit Development for Windows Killed Off (Message 1310909)
Posted 28 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
An easy way to tell if one has a 64bit XP, Vista or Win7 OS ...

The easiest is to hit Win+Pause :)


Thanks, I didn't know about that key combo, does that work in XP too?

Works in 98, 2000, XP, Vista, 7
On some laptop keyboards you may need to use Win+Fn+Pause


I just tried it several times on XP Pro and all that happened is the hourglass appeared next to the mouse cursor for a fraction of a second. Could it be because I'm on a non-admin account?

This key combination shows the same info as if you right-click 'My Computer' (on Desktop or in Start Menu)
and choose 'Properties'

Yet another way is to open 'Control Panel' and use 'System'

1786) Message boards : Number crunching : Firefox 64-Bit Development for Windows Killed Off (Message 1310806)
Posted 27 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
An easy way to tell if one has a 64bit XP, Vista or Win7 OS ...

The easiest is to hit Win+Pause :)


Thanks, I didn't know about that key combo, does that work in XP too?

Works in 98, 2000, XP, Vista, 7
On some laptop keyboards you may need to use Win+Fn+Pause

1787) Message boards : Number crunching : Firefox 64-Bit Development for Windows Killed Off (Message 1310696)
Posted 27 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
An easy way to tell if one has a 64bit XP, Vista or Win7 OS ...

The easiest is to hit Win+Pause :)

1788) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (79) Server Problems? (Message 1310686)
Posted 27 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If anyone wishes to use it you can find it here:
http://www.hal6000.com/seti/_com_check_full.txt
Right click & save, depending on your browser, rename to .bat. Then place in the folder where your stdoutdae.txt is located, or modify the script to point to the location of the file.

Change the number on the line "set check_days=" for the number of days you wish to view.


Every user may have different format for Date (I needed to change that part, my Date format is: 27.11.2012)
(obviously this .bat will not work very useful in the start of a month (it can't go back to the previous month) so use it now, it will be too late in December ;) )

Since I changed too many places here is my edited .bat
@ECHO OFF
cls
pushd %~dp0
set check_days=20

@ECHO %date%
::: --- Change the following lines to match your DATE format:
set cdy=%date:~0,2%
set cmo=%date:~3,2%
set cyr=%date:~6,4%

set edychk1=-
set edychk2=0

set Start_date=%cyr%-%cmo%-%cdy%
@ECHO Start date: %Start_date%
set Out_file=$com_check_full__%computername%__%Start_date%.txt
@ECHO Out file: %Out_file%
@ECHO.
pause

REM.> %Out_file%
findstr /C:"[SETI@home] Scheduler request failed: " 			stdoutdae.txt >$sched_failures-%computername%.txt
findstr /C:"[SETI@home] Scheduler request failed: Timeout was reached" 	stdoutdae.txt >$sched_failures_timeout-%computername%.txt
findstr /C:"[SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: " 			stdoutdae.txt >$sched_successes-%computername%.txt

:start
set /a lct=%lct%+1
findstr /C:"%cdy%-" $sched_failures-%computername%.txt >sched_failures-%computername%_%cyr%-%cmo%-%cdy%.txt
findstr /C:"%cdy%-" $sched_failures_timeout-%computername%.txt >sched_failures_timeout-%computername%_%cyr%-%cmo%-%cdy%.txt
findstr /C:"%cdy%-" $sched_successes-%computername%.txt >sched_successes-%computername%_%cyr%-%cmo%-%cdy%.txt

REM ---start output senction
for /f %%a in ('Find /V /C "" ^< sched_failures-%computername%_%cyr%-%cmo%-%cdy%.txt') do set fails=%%a
for /f %%a in ('Find /V /C "" ^< sched_failures_timeout-%computername%_%cyr%-%cmo%-%cdy%.txt') do set time_fails=%%a
for /f %%a in ('Find /V /C "" ^< sched_successes-%computername%_%cyr%-%cmo%-%cdy%.txt') do set success=%%a

@ECHO Results for calendar date: %cyr%-%cmo%-%cdy%
@ECHO Results for calendar date: %cyr%-%cmo%-%cdy%		>> %Out_file%

set /a schdreqcnt=%fails%+%success%
@ECHO Scheduler Requests: %schdreqcnt%
@ECHO Scheduler Requests: %schdreqcnt%				>> %Out_file%

set /a schdsuccesspct=%success%*100/%schdreqcnt%
@ECHO Scheduler Success: %schdsuccesspct% %%
@ECHO Scheduler Success: %schdsuccesspct% %%			>> %Out_file%

set /a schdfailspct=%fails%*100/%schdreqcnt%
@ECHO Scheduler Failure: %schdfailspct% %%
@ECHO Scheduler Failure: %schdfailspct% %%			>> %Out_file%

set /a schdtofailspct=%time_fails%*100/%schdreqcnt%
@ECHO Scheduler Timeout: %schdtofailspct% %% of total
@ECHO Scheduler Timeout: %schdtofailspct% %% of total		>> %Out_file%

set /a schdtmfailspct=%time_fails%*100/%fails%
@ECHO Scheduler Timeout: %schdtmfailspct% %% of failures
@ECHO Scheduler Timeout: %schdtmfailspct% %% of failures	>> %Out_file%

REM ---end output senction

set /a cdy=%cdy%-1
if %cdy:~0,1%==%edychk1% @ECHO Date makes no sense. I Can't math! & goto end
if %cdy:~0,1%==%edychk2% @ECHO Date makes no sense. I Can't math! & goto end
if %lct%==%check_days% goto end
goto start

:end
@ECHO.
@ECHO End date: %cyr%-%cmo%-%cdy%
@ECHO.
@ECHO *** All the above text you can find now in file:
@ECHO %Out_file%
pause

del sched_*-%computername%_*.txt
%Out_file%
:pause



And my Results for 20 days:

Results for calendar date: 2012-11-27
Scheduler Requests: 52
Scheduler Success: 67 %
Scheduler Failure: 32 %
Scheduler Timeout: 0 % of total
Scheduler Timeout: 0 % of failures
Results for calendar date: 2012-11-26
Scheduler Requests: 193
Scheduler Success: 25 %
Scheduler Failure: 74 %
Scheduler Timeout: 1 % of total
Scheduler Timeout: 1 % of failures
Results for calendar date: 2012-11-25
Scheduler Requests: 117
Scheduler Success: 17 %
Scheduler Failure: 82 %
Scheduler Timeout: 1 % of total
Scheduler Timeout: 2 % of failures
Results for calendar date: 2012-11-24
Scheduler Requests: 90
Scheduler Success: 0 %
Scheduler Failure: 100 %
Scheduler Timeout: 1 % of total
Scheduler Timeout: 1 % of failures
Results for calendar date: 2012-11-23
Scheduler Requests: 78
Scheduler Success: 44 %
Scheduler Failure: 55 %
Scheduler Timeout: 0 % of total
Scheduler Timeout: 0 % of failures
Results for calendar date: 2012-11-22
Scheduler Requests: 103
Scheduler Success: 80 %
Scheduler Failure: 19 %
Scheduler Timeout: 0 % of total
Scheduler Timeout: 0 % of failures
Results for calendar date: 2012-11-21
Scheduler Requests: 134
Scheduler Success: 45 %
Scheduler Failure: 54 %
Scheduler Timeout: 13 % of total
Scheduler Timeout: 24 % of failures
Results for calendar date: 2012-11-20
Scheduler Requests: 185
Scheduler Success: 72 %
Scheduler Failure: 27 %
Scheduler Timeout: 4 % of total
Scheduler Timeout: 18 % of failures
Results for calendar date: 2012-11-19
Scheduler Requests: 29
Scheduler Success: 82 %
Scheduler Failure: 17 %
Scheduler Timeout: 6 % of total
Scheduler Timeout: 40 % of failures
Results for calendar date: 2012-11-18
Scheduler Requests: 72
Scheduler Success: 61 %
Scheduler Failure: 38 %
Scheduler Timeout: 38 % of total
Scheduler Timeout: 100 % of failures
Results for calendar date: 2012-11-17
Scheduler Requests: 25
Scheduler Success: 48 %
Scheduler Failure: 52 %
Scheduler Timeout: 48 % of total
Scheduler Timeout: 92 % of failures
Results for calendar date: 2012-11-16
Scheduler Requests: 38
Scheduler Success: 65 %
Scheduler Failure: 34 %
Scheduler Timeout: 34 % of total
Scheduler Timeout: 100 % of failures
Results for calendar date: 2012-11-15
Scheduler Requests: 39
Scheduler Success: 61 %
Scheduler Failure: 38 %
Scheduler Timeout: 33 % of total
Scheduler Timeout: 86 % of failures
Results for calendar date: 2012-11-14
Scheduler Requests: 56
Scheduler Success: 82 %
Scheduler Failure: 17 %
Scheduler Timeout: 17 % of total
Scheduler Timeout: 100 % of failures
Results for calendar date: 2012-11-13
Scheduler Requests: 53
Scheduler Success: 77 %
Scheduler Failure: 22 %
Scheduler Timeout: 9 % of total
Scheduler Timeout: 41 % of failures
Results for calendar date: 2012-11-12
Scheduler Requests: 217
Scheduler Success: 92 %
Scheduler Failure: 7 %
Scheduler Timeout: 5 % of total
Scheduler Timeout: 75 % of failures
Results for calendar date: 2012-11-11
Scheduler Requests: 35
Scheduler Success: 54 %
Scheduler Failure: 45 %
Scheduler Timeout: 8 % of total
Scheduler Timeout: 18 % of failures
Results for calendar date: 2012-11-10
Scheduler Requests: 19
Scheduler Success: 89 %
Scheduler Failure: 10 %
Scheduler Timeout: 10 % of total
Scheduler Timeout: 100 % of failures
Results for calendar date: 2012-11-9
Scheduler Requests: 41
Scheduler Success: 70 %
Scheduler Failure: 29 %
Scheduler Timeout: 19 % of total
Scheduler Timeout: 66 % of failures
Results for calendar date: 2012-11-8
Scheduler Requests: 87
Scheduler Success: 59 %
Scheduler Failure: 40 %
Scheduler Timeout: 37 % of total
Scheduler Timeout: 94 % of failures

1789) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery kitchen tool (Message 1310031)
Posted 25 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
can the vegetables roasted be "hot" or "not hot"?

Yes, we have a winner!

But we use it only for "not hot" (the "hot" are too small and will burn)
You can put 3 red peppers in it.
If you remove "the Mercedes" (metal plate) it can be used for one aubergine.


The name is Чушкопек (Chushkopek, tchoushkopec = Pepperroast, Pepper roaster)
http://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/Чушкопек
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fbg.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F%D0%A7%D1%83%D1%88%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%BA

English:
http://new.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=111550

Français:
http://www.bulgaria-france.net/traditions/tchou.html


And guess what, I decided to use it (after ~10 years of idle time, it needed some fixing/repair of the plug (I found naked wires inside from years usage and heating))
When you remove the roasted peppers from the Chushkopek you have to put them immediately in a (closed by lid) pot/saucepan/stew pan so the peppers will not lose water/steam while they cool down (this way they become soft and do not lose flavour)
The peelings/skin is removed very easily by (serrated) knife (razor movement, not cut but scrape off) as you can see in my plate (the rightmost pepper)






To preserve the roasted peppers for the winter (usually 20-50 kg are roasted, depends on the size of family, available time and money)
you have two options:
(old) - (peel them first and) put them in a jar with tight lid and boil in water (like any canned food (e.g. compote, stewed fruit) you found in the shops)
(new) - (no need to peel them first) put them in plastic bags and then in a (large) freezer

1790) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery kitchen tool (Message 1309977)
Posted 24 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
At first I thought it was a slow cooker...

But glowing red @300 degrees? Obviously nothing cooks at that temp so I'm guessing whatever you put in there is hanging from the lid?

No, it is fast cooker (what you put inside needs only 1-3 minutes to be ready, that's why this is used instead of other methods to roast)
The lid is closed during roast, you only open it fast (for short time, to not cool the inside, it have to be hot for fast roast) to remove the vegetables (using piercing/punch hook) and put new raw vegetables inside.

I made my own picture (using very cheap $15 camera, the glow is more red and bright than on the picture)
My device/oven, glow from inside after 30 minutes heating, picture taken on the balcony, it is night here now:




(If you come here (are you in Greece?) you may buy one - costs ~$20 and is ~5 kg)

1791) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery kitchen tool (Message 1309948)
Posted 24 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
for baking cabbage

No
But it's used for some other vegetable(s)

(From cabbage we make sauerkraut (usually in big 80-100 litre plastic tanks/barrels (wooden barrels in my childhood)))

This device is powered by electricity (220-240V, 1000-1300W)




Every Bulgarian (over age of 20-25 y) knows what it is and how it's called (the name does not contain (the Bulgarian equivalent of) word 'oven' but it ends in (the Bulgarian equivalent of) word 'roast')

I don't think this is used anywhere outside of Bulgaria (only in a rare case that someone from neighbour countries bought one from Bulgaria)
The (short) wikipedia page have only versions in Bulgarian, Deutsch, Français

(but I found some other page with short info in English (I will give the link after the 'Mystery' is solved)
... which say:
"The “XXXXXXX” is a patented Bulgarian household appliance with a cylindrical shape; its wall is lined with a heater, and in the middle it can fit 1, 3, 5 or 7 YYYYYYY depending on the size and type of the appliance."
)

1792) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery kitchen tool (Message 1309916)
Posted 24 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Something to do with herbs?

No
(it is to make some kind of food for winter (the so prepared food was not available (in these years, in 'cooked' condition) in stores/shops and even if it is available now it is more cheap to make it at home during autumn than to buy it ready-to-eat from shops in winter))

1793) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery kitchen tool (Message 1309902)
Posted 24 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Bread and Pizza?

No
(no wheat/flour involved (but it is for food, mind: "we (at my home) used it only on balcony (and only) during autumn"))

1794) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery kitchen tool (Message 1309896)
Posted 24 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
A kettle (on gas) to keep your food warm?

No
(do not use gas, do not use water, not used "to keep your food warm")

1795) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery kitchen tool (Message 1309895)
Posted 24 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Old tumble dryer?

No
(It is not designed to dry anything, temperature inside is (maybe) >300°C (glows red when opened during use))

1796) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery kitchen tool (Message 1309893)
Posted 24 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
portable oven

Yes!
But for what?
(usually it was 'portable' only between kitchen and balcony, we (at my home) used it only on balcony during autumn)





Copy from some site/translate by Google/Edit+additions by me:
"
<this 'thing'> is the most significant 'way/style of living' gain, which changed the lives of Bulgarians in the twentieth century.
This was decided by Television viewers in the state media campaign "The Bulgarian events of the twentieth century."

<this 'thing'> received 25.51 percent of the vote to electricity (16.77%), and television and radio with 13.44%.

Other events nominated in the category "Revolutions in households' were:
* car (was hard to buy a car, you have to wait in queue for 5-10 years depending on brand (wait 5 years for Å koda or 10 years for Lada)),
* recreation on Black sea beach,
* residence in Sofia (the capital, to live/reside in Sofia for more than a month was restricted before 1990 (only born-in-Sofia and students were permitted, some workers in heavy industry were permitted to stay 'forever' in Sofia only if they work for 10 years)),
* glazed balcony (which can this way be used as kitchen even during winter),
* Decree 56 (socialist law (~1985) permitting small family business (communist party ruled for 45 years before the end of 1989)),
* and the mobile phone.
"

1797) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery kitchen tool (Message 1309884)
Posted 24 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
A wine cooler?

No
(As in old child game (search and find) I will say 'too cold, you have to search in the opposite direction')

1798) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery kitchen tool (Message 1309883)
Posted 24 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Something related to Coffee?

No
(but it is used only in relation to two type/kind of objects (one of them much often than the other))

1799) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery kitchen tool (Message 1309878)
Posted 24 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
An incinerator?

No
(nothing is destroyed/annihilated inside, the objects you put in it are very useful when you get them back)

1800) Message boards : Number crunching : "Sleepy" NV GPU - how to "wake up" ? (Message 1309599)
Posted 24 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

MSIAfterburner adds entry to auto-apply OC settings like this:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
"MSIAfterburner"="\"H:\\Programs.XP\\Tools\\Info\\MSI Afterburner\\MSIAfterburner.exe\" /s"

(it starts, apply OC settings, exits)

? What will happen if you just copy the same to:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

1801) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery kitchen tool (Message 1309581)
Posted 24 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

We (at my home) used this till ~2000 year, we still have it and some still use it:




1802) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Am I Doing Anything Wrong? (Message 1309160)
Posted 23 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Define "clearly"

Your question is already answered (but you didn't follow the suggestion to look at your settings)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Local_preferences

1803) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery kitchen tool (Message 1309137)
Posted 23 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Your picture have address:
http://home.rica.net/toolman/Image85.gif

When I go to:
http://home.rica.net/toolman/

... I can see that:
"Figure AM15f shows an ice pick with a very unusual ice tongs attachment to the handle. The bent/twisted wire tongs are serrated on the inside surface to aid in gripping the chips of ice produced by the pick. The brass plate on the tongs is marked WIS LAKES ICE & CARTAGE CO"

1804) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINCstats partial graph display (Message 1307994)
Posted 20 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Maybe you can create Exclusion rule for Web Anti-Virus component of KIS to allow http://boincstats.com/
http://support.kaspersky.com/8742

The example shows how to exclude folder but maybe URL will also work?

(I never used Kaspersky so have no experience with it, I use ESET NOD32 Antivirus 4.2.71.2 and have no problem to view boincstats.com pages/graphs in Opera 11.64/XP32)

1805) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (79) Server Problems? (Message 1307958)
Posted 19 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Maybe That's good ;)

I think they maybe implemented something as 'Max simultaneous connected hosts'?

E.g. if the servers now process requests from 5000 computers any attempt to connect will be dropped immediately.
When some of those 5000 computers finish the request 1 'connection slot' will be free so next computer attempting a connection will be served?

1806) Message boards : Number crunching : Suggestions for people having problems connecting to the servers (Message 1307597)
Posted 19 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
When I tried running the optimiser on my ADSL 2 internet connection, the 'Largest MTU' test with all the pre-defined Speedtest URLs suggested 1492.

But when I put in a Berkeley server - I put in the .16 upload server, I couldn't get the test to complete on the scheduler address - the largest unfragmented MTU reported was 1476.

You are right - all the servers:
208.68.240.13
208.68.240.21
208.68.240.16
208.68.240.20

report the same:

Pinging [208.68.240.20] with 1500 bytes -> ..fragmented
Pinging [208.68.240.20] with 750 bytes ->bytes=750 time=232ms TTL=53
Pinging [208.68.240.20] with 1125 bytes ->bytes=1125 time=235ms TTL=53
Pinging [208.68.240.20] with 1312 bytes ->bytes=1312 time=237ms TTL=53
Pinging [208.68.240.20] with 1406 bytes ->bytes=1406 time=238ms TTL=53
Pinging [208.68.240.20] with 1453 bytes -> ..fragmented
Pinging [208.68.240.20] with 1429 bytes ->bytes=1429 time=238ms TTL=53
Pinging [208.68.240.20] with 1441 bytes ->bytes=1441 time=238ms TTL=53
Pinging [208.68.240.20] with 1447 bytes ->bytes=1447 time=236ms TTL=53
Pinging [208.68.240.20] with 1450 bytes -> ..fragmented
Pinging [208.68.240.20] with 1448 bytes ->bytes=1448 time=238ms TTL=53
Pinging [208.68.240.20] with 1449 bytes -> ..fragmented
The largest possible non-fragmented packet is 1448 (1476 - 28 ICMP & IP headers).
You can set your MTU to 1476


Looks possible they have some misconfiguration?

1807) Message boards : Number crunching : Suggestions for people having problems connecting to the servers (Message 1307591)
Posted 19 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

There is small bug in TCPOptimizer - one of the Advanced values:
NonBestEffortLimit=0

... is (appears to be) set in the program interface (after you choose Optimal for the first time)
but is not set/saved to the registry on [Apply]

Just run TCPOptimizer for second time, choose again Optimal and [Apply]

For all values you will see 'No Change' and only for one:
Value Name		Old value	New value	Default value	Path	
NonBestEffortLimit	n/a		0	 	20		HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Psched\NonBestEffortLimit	


1808) Message boards : Number crunching : Suggestions for people having problems connecting to the servers (Message 1307569)
Posted 19 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Just do the test (gives result in 5-10 s)

My Router say: Line Mode: ADSL2+
and TCPOptimizer: "You can set your MTU to 1492"


You can do the same test manually using Ping (and then add 28 bytes overhead):

>Ping setiathome.berkeley.edu /f -l 1464

Pinging setiathome.berkeley.edu [128.32.18.150] with 1464 bytes of data:

Reply from 128.32.18.150: bytes=1464 time=244ms TTL=46
Reply from 128.32.18.150: bytes=1464 time=248ms TTL=46
Reply from 128.32.18.150: bytes=1464 time=245ms TTL=46
Reply from 128.32.18.150: bytes=1464 time=245ms TTL=46

Ping statistics for 128.32.18.150:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 244ms, Maximum = 248ms, Average = 245ms

>Ping setiathome.berkeley.edu /f -l 1465

Pinging setiathome.berkeley.edu [128.32.18.150] with 1465 bytes of data:

Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.

Ping statistics for 128.32.18.150:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

1809) Questions and Answers : Windows : Trying To Report Completed Tasks; Scheduler Request Failed (Message 1307562)
Posted 19 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You may also find interesting info in:
'Suggestions for people having problems connecting to the servers':
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70066

1810) Message boards : Number crunching : Suggestions for people having problems connecting to the servers (Message 1307561)
Posted 19 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What is the MTU that TCP Opti is recommending? I can set that on my router for all rigs. Currently at 1492.

If you just choose Optimal:
- if the MTU was already set in the registry to 1492 (as was on one of my computers) - TCPOptimizer keeps it for the Optimal values
- if the MTU was not set explicitly in the registry (= Windows default) (as was on another of my computers) - TCPOptimizer sets it to 1500 for the Optimal values

(Which is usually not the proper value for DSL
"MTU/MRU
When the DSL modem sends and receives PPPoE-containing Ethernet frames across the Ethernet link to the router (or PPPoE-speaking single PC), there is an overhead of 8 bytes (2 for PPP, 6 for PPPoE) added within the payload of the Ethernet frame. This added overhead usually means that a reduced limit (so-called ‘MTU’ or ‘MRU’) of 1492 bytes is imposed on the length of IP packets sent or received, as opposed to the usual 1500 bytes for Ethernet networks."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point-to-point_protocol_over_Ethernet
)

The advice is to make test on particular computer (in MTU/Latency tab click [Largest MTU])
For DSL you will see "You can set your MTU to 1492"
(just check PPPoE on the first tab - MTU 1492 will automatically appear above it)

If someone is unsure - it does not hurt to set MTU to 1492 in any case
(For 'normal' (not DSL) connection you'll lose only 8 bytes of 1500 'performance'
For DSL: 1492 will avoid fragmentation (else if MTU of 1500 is used every single packet will be sent as 2 packets which is big loss))




http://www.speedguide.net/tcpoptimizer.php
http://www.speedguide.net/downloads.php

1811) Questions and Answers : Windows : Trying To Report Completed Tasks; Scheduler Request Failed (Message 1307513)
Posted 18 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Proxy address worked like a charm! Thanks very much! I'm not sure how/why that worked... just that it worked. Care to explain?

If you read around the posts in the same thread where you get the Proxy address you'll see that nobody still knows why Proxy route often works better/faster than direct connection.
(this Proxy seems to be somewhere in California)

The hypothesis is some bad Router or server in the path that can't serve too many simultaneous connections
(all computers behind the same Proxy appear to the server as one IP)

1812) Questions and Answers : Wish list : testing of signal search routines (Message 1307088)
Posted 17 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

All the billions of 'signals' found so far:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sci_status.html

... are most probably earth radio noise.

No need to point the dish at moon - in fact it is very hard to NOT receive earth radio noise/contamination (e.g. by near radars).

("point the dish" is not very possible:
- Arecibo dish is fixed in earth crater and only the receiver above it can be moved slightly
- SETI@home do not have the powers/money to "point the dish":
From the above link: "The SETI multibeam data recorder collects data by piggybacking on the Arecibo ALFA receiver."
)
1813) Questions and Answers : Windows : Trying To Report Completed Tasks; Scheduler Request Failed (Message 1307086)
Posted 17 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Try a proxy:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69995&postid=1306239#1306239

1814) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Missing gpu work units. (Message 1306770)
Posted 16 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=site:setiathome.berkeley.edu+ghosts
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=site:setiathome.berkeley.edu+ghosts+resend

'Resend lost tasks' option is ON at the moment (set on the server by staff at the lab, not by you)
so you will get those tasks (20 at a time) when your BOINC asks for work
like this:

15/11/2012 20:30:11 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
15/11/2012 20:30:11 SETI@home Reporting 3 completed tasks, requesting new tasks for CPU
15/11/2012 20:31:12 SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 11 new tasks
15/11/2012 20:31:12 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 03oc12ac.6133.23380.140733193388038.10.36_2
15/11/2012 20:31:12 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 03oc12ac.6133.23380.140733193388038.10.101_2
15/11/2012 20:31:12 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 03oc12ac.6133.23380.140733193388038.10.42_2
15/11/2012 20:31:12 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 03oc12ac.6133.23380.140733193388038.10.107_2
15/11/2012 20:31:12 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 03oc12ac.6133.23380.140733193388038.10.48_2
15/11/2012 20:31:12 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 03oc12ac.6133.23380.140733193388038.10.113_2
15/11/2012 20:31:12 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 03oc12ac.6133.23380.140733193388038.10.54_2
15/11/2012 20:31:12 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 03oc12ac.6133.23380.140733193388038.10.90_2
15/11/2012 20:31:12 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 03oc12ac.6133.23380.140733193388038.10.102_2
15/11/2012 20:31:12 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 03oc12ac.6133.23380.140733193388038.10.120_2
15/11/2012 20:31:12 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 03se12ad.28958.1047.140733193388035.10.83_2
15/11/2012 20:31:14 SETI@home Started download of 03oc12ac.6133.23380.140733193388038.10.36
15/11/2012 20:31:14 SETI@home Started download of 03oc12ac.6133.23380.140733193388038.10.101
........

This applies only to 'In progress' tasks that are shown on site but are not in your computer.
'Timed out - no response' tasks will not be sent to you but to somebody else.

1815) Message boards : Number crunching : Optimize your GPU. Find the value the easy way. (Message 1306283)
Posted 15 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Oh, No - the programs (SetiPerformance and apps) are not mine,
I only collected them, edited config.xml, tested if all works on my system and uploaded the 'combined package'.

(only the 2 small 'apps' (AutoHotkey scripts 'SetiPerformance Test4Test') are mine)


The author of SetiPerformance is Fred (efmer), the link is in this his post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69136&postid=1294078#1294078

If you didn't already - check also the programs/links in his signature (TThrottle, BoincTasks)

1816) Message boards : Number crunching : Two ATI 7750s, Count 0.5, Four Active Tasks, Only Two Progressing? (Message 1306128)
Posted 14 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Benchmarking now to see if this is the best use of the system.


Do you use this?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69136&postid=1300787#1300787

1817) Message boards : Number crunching : Two ATI 7750s, Count 0.5, Four Active Tasks, Only Two Progressing? (Message 1305977)
Posted 14 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:


<cmdline>-period_iterations_num 20 -instances_per_device 2</cmdline>
<coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>0.5</count>
</coproc>

1818) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Which 7770 driver version with GPU openCL support for XP 32bit ? (Message 1304630)
Posted 10 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Catalyst 11.5 have 'high CPU usage bug' for OpenCL (all 11.5 ... 11.11 have this bug)

That is why there are no links for those versions on the bottom of the page:
http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet.htm

I use Catalyst 11.12 on Win XP:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4832843

(you have to choose only between 11.12 or 12.1)

If you want to extract only OpenCL.msi you can use 7-Zip to open the installer:
11-12_xp32_dd_ccc_ocl.exe
12-1_xp32_dd_ccc.exe
and look in:
...\$_OUTDIR\Packages\Apps\OpenCL\

?? I don't know if you can install later Catalyst (e.g. 12.4) and use the OpenCL.msi from 12-1_xp32_dd_ccc.exe

1819) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : HD7970 not supported? (Message 1304627)
Posted 10 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Try later (beta) BOINC version (7.0.36+):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69469&postid=1286059#1286059

1820) Questions and Answers : Windows : Bionic never completes a work unit. (Message 1301896)
Posted 4 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Using an AMD Athlon 64 X2

Stuck task/app happens sometimes on some AMD CPUs during 'Optimal function choice' of the stock SETI@home Enhanced v6.03 app
(it happens only when task start/restart, not in the middle of computation)
(probably this will not happen when the new SETI@home v7 apps will come to use (some months in the future))

What you can do?
[Suspend] the task, wait a few seconds, [Resume] it
Or restart BOINC

1821) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : GPU & CPU in use? (Message 1301873)
Posted 4 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
As I understand it, a single Boinc project will either run on the GPU or the CPU but not both.

Wrong - any project will use all devices it have app for (unless you set the opposite):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

(Try to run SETI@home or Einstein@Home or ... on Windows computer which have both NVIDIA and ATI GPUs - the tasks/apps will/may run on CPU + 2 GPUs simultaneously (every device with its own task))

The (stock) apps available now at/for SETI@home:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php


Your tasks are for CPU:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5821300&offset=0&show_names=0&state=2&appid=

(if they were for GPU they would have in the name NVIDIA or cuda or ATI or opencl
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1103407304
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5948046&offset=0&show_names=0&state=3&appid=
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=4832843&offset=0&show_names=0&state=2&appid=
)

Since you have:
Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU 5150 @ 2.66GHz
Number of processors 4

... you have to see 4 CPU tasks running
(CPU tasks do not use GPU at all and GPU can't make them run faster)

1822) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : Astropulse binaries for other platforms (Message 1301857)
Posted 3 Nov 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... although it would be nice to get the Darwin Astropulse app back.

??? Why?
If you mean 'astropulse_6.02_i686-apple-darwin' you don't need it, you now have the optimized app: 'ap_6.02r561_OSX64'

Delete the last part of your app_info.xml
- it is nonsense - there is no Application under the name 'astropulse_v6.02' in existence:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

('astropulse_v6' is a string representing the name of the Application and the SETI servers expect an exact name they know about.
'6' is not version num, it is just symbol/char part of the string - if they wanted they may call it 'astropulse_six'.
Asking the SETI servers to send you <name>astropulse_v6.02</name> will have the same "success" as asking for <name>abracadabra_v6</name> ;)
)

1823) Message boards : Number crunching : Optimize your GPU. Find the value the easy way. (Message 1300787)
Posted 31 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

New combined package (21 MB):

All from original SetiPerformance_32_64_1_6.zip
+ 5 OpenCL tests: ATI (MB and AP) and NVIDIA AP
+ 2 my 'apps' to test SetiPerformance decisions for "The best average time found"
(Edited config.xml accordingly)

SetiPerformance_32_64_1_6__OpenCL_ATI_NV_Added-by-BilBg.7z

Direct link:
http://www.datafilehost.com/get.php?file=be9d6904

! Edit: First click on the link will open a page in a new tab - just close the tab and use again the above 'Direct link' from here


(I give 'Direct link' and not the usual: http://www.datafilehost.com/download-be9d6904.html
because yesterday I found that datafilehost.com started to use/offer some stupid/adware "download manager"
(NOD32 pop-up orange warning about PUP for this "download manager")

Again yesterday Unchecking "Use our download manager and get recommended downloads" in Firefox did not have any effect
(meaning the "Download: Click Here" lead to the same long link (http://www.storagenl.info/.....) despite the check box)
Now in Opera the check box have effect (the "Download: Click Here" changes to the above 'Direct link' (which I in fact extracted yesterday manually from the long link))

For me the 'Direct link' works Directly ;)

If it does not work for you:
- first open the usual link (in case it sets some temporary cookie or other means to avoid direct linking): http://www.datafilehost.com/download-be9d6904.html
- then use the 'Direct link' above
)


OpenCL tests:

MB6_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r390
MB6_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_r390 (for ATI HD4xxx or to compare the speed difference to HD5_r390 app on ATI HD5xxx+ GPU)
(New) Beta_MB7_6.99_OpenCL_ATi_r1643 (== setiathome_6.99_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati_sah.exe) (appears to be slower than r390 probably because of stock defaults aimed at low/no lag)

AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r1316
AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_NV_r1316 (Not tested - I don't have NVIDIA)


(New) My 'apps':
(written for fun using AutoHotkey (this is my first attempt to use AutoHotkey scripts, source .ahk + compiled .exe + Compiler Ahk2Exe included)):

SetiPerformance Test4Test (Simple, Exit Manually)
SetiPerformance Test4Test (Progress, Random times)

(as usual with programs it appears that the 'Simple' is better, the other 'app' (Progress) is just more 'fancy' ;) )


=== === ===

Note:
I consider all these SETI@home apps 'Freely available' because:

- Anyone that is attached to SETI@home (and uses stock apps, and have capable GPU) will get/download automatically from the SETI@home servers
the same AstroPulse OpenCL ATI/NVIDIA apps as included here (compare the stock .exe files with the optimized if you don't believe me)

- Anyone can attach to SETI@home Beta and get (the same way: from SETI@home servers) the Beta apps:
setiathome_6.99_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati_sah.exe (== MB OpenCL ATi r1643) (which is a newer version of MB6_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_r390)
x41z (not included in 'my' combined package) (the .exe properties say: "Copyright (c) 2012, Jason Richard Groothuis bSc, All Rights Reserved", Original File name: Lunatics_x41z_win32_cuda42.exe)

- Some of the apps are still available on the Lunatics site, e.g.:
AP 6.01 r555 ATI OpenCL
Cuda Multibeam x41g

>> Evidence:

http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=39

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68948

http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/apps.php
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/forum_thread.php?id=1964
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/forum_thread.php?id=1956

=== === ===


So using my 'apps' I tested SetiPerformance -
the decisions for "The best average time found" are really weird
(I'm confident there is a bug in that code)

Better to do the decision by yourself (as you probably already do) looking the values, feeling the lag, judging the used RAM, GPU load, temperature, ...


"The best average time found" test using my 'apps' which permit to simulate different run times:




Starting automatic test: (SetiPerformance Test4Test (Simple, Exit Manually))
Device: 0, device count: 1, average time / count: 59, average time on device: 59 Seconds (0 Minutes, 59 Seconds)
Device: 0, device count: 2, average time / count: 50, average time on device: 25 Seconds (0 Minutes, 25 Seconds)
Device: 0, device count: 3, average time / count: 104, average time on device: 34 Seconds (0 Minutes, 34 Seconds)
Device: 0, device count: 4, average time / count: 39, average time on device: 9 Seconds (0 Minutes, 9 Seconds)
>> The best average time found: 34 Seconds (0 Minutes, 34 Seconds), with count: 0.33 (3)

Starting automatic test: (SetiPerformance Test4Test (Simple, Exit Manually))
Device: 0, device count: 1, average time / count: 16, average time on device: 16 Seconds (0 Minutes, 16 Seconds)
Device: 0, device count: 2, average time / count: 35, average time on device: 17 Seconds (0 Minutes, 17 Seconds)
Device: 0, device count: 3, average time / count: 36, average time on device: 12 Seconds (0 Minutes, 12 Seconds)
Device: 0, device count: 4, average time / count: 30, average time on device: 7 Seconds (0 Minutes, 7 Seconds)
>> The best average time found: 12 Seconds (0 Minutes, 12 Seconds), with count: 0.33 (3)





Starting automatic test: (SetiPerformance Test4Test (Progress, Random times))
Device: 0, device count: 1, average time / count: 83, average time on device: 83 Seconds (1 Minutes, 23 Seconds)
Device: 0, device count: 2, average time / count: 50, average time on device: 25 Seconds (0 Minutes, 25 Seconds)
Device: 0, device count: 3, average time / count: 75, average time on device: 25 Seconds (0 Minutes, 25 Seconds)
Device: 0, device count: 4, average time / count: 41, average time on device: 10 Seconds (0 Minutes, 10 Seconds)
>> The best average time found: 25 Seconds (0 Minutes, 25 Seconds), with count: 0.33 (3)

Starting automatic test: (SetiPerformance Test4Test (Progress, Random times))
Device: 0, device count: 1, average time / count: 46, average time on device: 46 Seconds (0 Minutes, 46 Seconds)
Device: 0, device count: 2, average time / count: 84, average time on device: 42 Seconds (0 Minutes, 42 Seconds)
Device: 0, device count: 3, average time / count: 84, average time on device: 28 Seconds (0 Minutes, 28 Seconds)
Device: 0, device count: 4, average time / count: 85, average time on device: 21 Seconds (0 Minutes, 21 Seconds)
>> The best average time found: 28 Seconds (0 Minutes, 28 Seconds), with count: 0.33 (3)

1824) Message boards : Number crunching : Discussion of Invalid Host Messaging (Message 1300629)
Posted 31 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
After reading NVidia driver problems which cause computation errors by Richard Haselgrove
I've changed my avanced power settings ...

Read again:
1) Sleeping Monitor Bug
Drivers affected: 295.51 (BETA), 295.73 and 296.10

You use driver: 306.97 so what you did was not needed.

You also don't have 'Kepler' GPU (GT 6xx and GTX 6xx) so the other (CUDA_GRID_SIZE_COMPAT) fix do not apply to you.

GTX 560 Ti problems are 'famous' and not related to 'Sleeping Monitor Bug' nor 'Kepler'

Read 'a few' threads about GTX 560 Ti problems:
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=560+Ti+problems+site:setiathome.berkeley.edu

1825) Message boards : Number crunching : Uneven usage of GPUs (Message 1298949)
Posted 26 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... Latency Checker. There are still some spikes now and then but the crunching looks smooth.

Did you see/read also about "PCI latency timer BIOS entry" (mine is set to 128):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67270&postid=1207226#1207226
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66787&postid=1189985#1189985

1826) Message boards : Number crunching : Uneven usage of GPUs (Message 1298396)
Posted 24 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you like to play with video drivers - many people suggested in the past that this driver worked best
(I can't confirm by personal experience, I do not have CUDA GPU)

NVIDIA DRIVERS 266.58 WHQL - Windows XP 64-bit
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp64-266.58-whql-driver.html

1827) Message boards : Number crunching : Uneven usage of GPUs (Message 1298386)
Posted 24 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

What CPU load you see (in Windows Task Manager - Performance tab) on all cores when this is set to 50%?
Do you see only 3 CPU tasks running (in BOINC Manager - Tasks, in Windows Task Manager - Processes)?

Try even lower setting as 1% (I'm not sure will this use 0 or 1 core (i.e. no CPU tasks running at all or just one CPU task))

Change for test to <count>1</count> (make copy of original app_info.xml for easy return)


Also check what is 'angle range', only compare times for "similar" AR tasks:
"WU true angle range is" in stderr.txt (in ....\BOINC\slots\ while the GPU tasks run)
<true_angle_range> in the task/WU file

There are very few long running GPU tasks, in fact I found only one (after a few minutes browsing):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2659629186
Can you give more links to long running GPU tasks?

jason_gee (the main programmer of the CUDA app you are using): http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=8534984
... often suggest running DPC Latency Checker to check for bad behaving drivers in the system:
http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68151&postid=1240292#1240292
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67270&postid=1207226#1207226
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66787&postid=1189977#1189977

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66241&postid=1185224#1185224
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66241&postid=1184322#1184322

1828) Message boards : Number crunching : Uneven usage of GPUs (Message 1298380)
Posted 24 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You still didn't follow the simplest advice by Mike:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69788&postid=1298241#1298241

You don't know how to "free at least one CPU core"?

The setting is:
- if you use web preferences:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global
"On multiprocessors, use at most 100% of the processors"

- if you use local preferences (do the change in BOINC Manager if you already use local preferences):
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Local_preferences
"On multiprocessor systems, use at most [ 100.00 ] % of the processors"


To see will this have any effect - change to 50%
(this will free 3 cores on "AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1055T Processor" (meaning that only 3 (instead of 6) CPU tasks will be started/run by BOINC))

If you see 'effect' - next try 99% (this will free 1 core on any CPU with up to 100 cores)
If you see the same 'effect' as with 3 cores free - leave it at 99%

If the 'effect' is less - next try 2 cores free:
% = 100 * (AllCores - FreeCores) / AllCores

% = 100 * (6 - 1) / 6 = 84% (always round UP)
% = 100 * (6 - 2) / 6 = 67%

So:
- anything 67...83% will free 2 cores on a six-core Processor (six-thread Processor in case of Intel)
- anything 50...66% will free 3 cores on a six-core Processor

1829) Questions and Answers : Windows : A strange behavior of BOINC 7.0.28, 64bit on a WIN XP64 host. (Message 1297825)
Posted 22 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Try to be systematic, do the tests step-by-step:

0) Every time you move BOINC Data dir - better do this:
Uninstall BOINC (do not manually delete anything)
Move BOINC Data dir
Install BOINC again and on Advanced screen select your current location of BOINC Data dir
(by the way: where is your current location of BOINC Data dir? (copy full path))


Only if the above did not 'fix things':

1) How many tasks you have total from "all 7 Projects"?
BOINC may be busy sorting all the tasks if you stay on Tasks tab, try to stay on Projects tab for now
Restart BOINC - it will start on Projects tab, do you see "this particular behavior" again?

If yes - explain again what do you mean by "this particular behavior", it is not clear what you mean by:
"BOINC would not start, instead, boinc.exe; boincmgr.exe; boinccmd.exe; boincsvccrt.exe; boincscr.exe and boinctray.exe were running"
"new install, yet again, which offered a repair funtion and did not work"
"It simply refuses"

And of course BOINC will "function with 1 drive as well"


2) [Suspend] "all 7 Projects"
Exit BOINC (check if boinc.exe and boincmgr.exe processes exited)

Start BOINC Manager
- see if it starts boinc.exe
- see will again boinc.exe be "very busy reading and writing to and from memory"?
- post you start-up messages (from Event Log, first ~50 lines)

[Resume] one Project at a time and see what happens.

1830) Questions and Answers : Windows : what total crap (Message 1296905)
Posted 19 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This guy is right...the software is crap
Installing Boinc and than choose a project, doesn't work.
When i install Boinc 7.0.28, and try to choose a project, the software freezes and exits.

The problem seems to be not entirely on the 'software'
but with the (broken) project list BOINC gets from this link:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/project_list.php

(But I admit - no software have to hang when the data it reads is bad (it have to issue error message or silently fix/ignore the problem).
But in fact you can make most programs to crash by specially crafted (or by-bad-chance generated just 'right' for the purpose) data)

For the (broken) project list issue read:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69720


P.S.
For CUDA problems on Kepler there is now a sticky thread by Richard Haselgrove:
NVidia driver problems which cause computation errors:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69735

1831) Questions and Answers : Windows : seti@home not showing in project list (Message 1296901)
Posted 19 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I opened the link again and (unlike before) now there are many Warnings like this:

Warning: touch(): Utime failed: Permission denied in /mydisks/b/users/boincadm/boinc/doc/get_platforms.inc on line 188

Warning: file_put_contents(/home/boincadm/boinc/doc/platforms/http%3A%2F%2Fboinc.bakerlab.org%2Frosetta%2F): failed to open stream: Permission denied in /mydisks/b/users/boincadm/boinc/doc/get_platforms.inc on line 185

1832) Message boards : Number crunching : Question "finished but invalid" (Message 1296538)
Posted 18 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

1) What is your PSU? (brand/model, W, A on +12V rail)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_supply_unit_(computer)#Power_rating

"The most important factor for suitability for certain graphics cards is the PSUs total 12V output."


2) From your results:
setiathome_CUDA: Found 1 CUDA device(s):
Device 1: GeForce GTX 680, 2048 MiB, regsPerBlock 65536
computeCap 3.0, multiProcs 8
clockRate = 1058500
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2665153057

Seems to correspond to:
GTX 680 GPU Engine Specs:
CUDA Cores 1536
Base Clock (MHz) 1006
Boost Clock (MHz)1058
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-680/specifications

Can you avoid the 'Boost Clock' and stay on 'Base Clock'?

1833) Questions and Answers : Windows : Seti work on GPU, but not on CPU (Message 1296493)
Posted 18 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You repost the same unclear question (no answers because no one can understand what you ask)

Rephrase the question in more detail.

1834) Questions and Answers : Windows : seti@home not showing in project list (Message 1296127)
Posted 17 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

This is the link BOINC uses/loads and then saves to all_projects_list.xml
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/project_list.php

(the link is found/visible inside boinc.exe)

Open the link 2 times in 2 tabs - the list of projects is the same
(I saved to 2 files and get the same length - 42.3 KB (43 344 bytes))
but the order of projects is different/random.

I don't know how often BOINC refreshes this file (my looks OK, dated 13.10.2012, use BOINC 6.10.58)
Since several people reported problems to add projects - maybe project_list.php was broken for some time or BOINC 7.x can't read/save it properly?


For all affected:
* Check the file all_projects_list.xml in BOINC data dir, it may be corrupted.

1835) Questions and Answers : Windows : seti@home not showing in project list (Message 1295973)
Posted 16 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Check the file all_projects_list.xml in BOINC data dir, it may be corrupted.
My have size 40.8 KB (41 880 bytes)

If you check inside you have to see all projects, among them:
<project>
<name>SETI@home</name>
<url>http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/</url>


You can also paste manually the URL in Add project dialog:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/

1836) Message boards : Number crunching : Registry Backup and Restore (ERUNT - Emergency Recovery Utility) (Message 1295850)
Posted 16 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Since my 'System Restore' checkpoints often vanish for no apparent reason
I use this easy, fast and free utility:

ERUNT - The Emergency Recovery Utility NT
http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/index.htm

* Download:
I get both erunt-setup.exe and erunt.zip
In erunt.zip you can see what the files are (e.g. README.TXT)
but I used erunt-setup.exe to auto-create a shortcut for AUTOBACK.EXE in 'Startup' (Start Menu)

* Install:
I installed the program in D:\ERUNT\ and set the Backup folder to be D:\ERDNT\
then changed the shortcut for AUTOBACK.EXE (in 'Startup') to be:
D:\ERUNT\AUTOBACK.EXE  D:\ERDNT\AutoBackup\#Date#  /noconfirmdelete  /days:10


The ERUNT.INI file I created (put it next to ERUNT.EXE in the install folder):
[ERUNT]

DefaultDestinationFolder=D:\ERDNT

AppendDateToFolderEditField=1
AppendTimeToFolderEditField=1

DateFormat=yyyy/mm/dd
DateSeparator=.

TimeFormat=hh:mm:ss
TimeSeparator=-

DisableFastBackup=0



* Run:
After installation create ERUNT.INI file if you wish (e.g. I prefer 'DateFormat=yyyy/mm/dd' and 'DefaultDestinationFolder=D:\ERDNT')

AUTOBACK.EXE will auto-create a new backup (in ...\ERDNT\AutoBackup\) once per day when/if you boot/log-in Windows.
Then "performs the additional task of deleting old restore folders (from ...\ERDNT\AutoBackup\) after the new backup has been created"

(/days:10 means '10 backup days' (keeps 10 backup folders), not 10 calendar days
(if you reboot only every week this means you will have auto-backup as old as 10 weeks))


To manually create a Registry Backup:
Start the utility from shortcut ERUNT and just hit Enter a few times to create a new backup:




(Manually created Registry Backups are never deleted (which is good) - you have to go to ...\ERDNT\ and delete very old folders 'by hand')


* Restoring the registry with ERDNT (from README.TXT):
"
Situation: Windows is running normally.

To restore a previous registry backup, open Windows Explorer, navigate
to the folder where you saved the backup to, and double-click the
ERDNT.EXE file to start the restoration program. (Each restore folder
has its own copy of ERDNT.EXE in it.) Select which registry components
to restore, then click "OK" to start restoration. When the process is
complete, click "OK" to restart the computer and activate the restored
registry.
"

Read "What to do if Windows does not boot anymore?" in the same file.
(happens e.g. if electricity stops and registry is damaged)

(If I need to do that I boot 'Mini Windows XP' from "Hiren's BootCD 10.6"
and copy just system file from a backup folder to D:\WINDOWS\system32\config\
(you may first copy/move the (probably) broken system file from \WINDOWS\system32\config\ to some 'BAD_config' folder)

This manual restore/copy can be done even from a Linux BootDVD if it can read/write NTFS volumes.

Or (while in 'Mini Windows XP' or similar) you may run ERDNT.EXE from a backup folder
(I think it will first save the (probably) broken files then copy good ones from a backup folder where it was run from (will ask what to do in dialog))

Or in multi-boot system - boot other Windows installation and run ERDNT.EXE from a backup folder.

But first look in ERDNT.INF - it contains the original place of files,
you may need to edit the drive letter (C: D:) if it is different while you are in other Windows:
[SystemRoot]
"D:\WINDOWS"

[Restore]
"MACHINE SECURITY"
"SECURITY"
"D:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SECURITY"

[Restore]
"MACHINE SOFTWARE"
"software"
"D:\WINDOWS\system32\config\software"

.........

Make sure you choose the drive letter of the broken Windows
- if you have volume labels on the partitions - look at them.
(else you may wrongly restore from e.g. a XP backup to Vista installation/partition)
)


Just for info - how the files look:
(left: Windows created, right: ERUNT created/backups)







(To save space you can use NTFS compress on \ERDNT\ folder properties (as you can see by the 'c' in Attr column I did this))

1837) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1295778)
Posted 15 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
your BOINC Stats table ...

Also note that BOINCstats (and other stats sites) are not connected/associated with BOINC or SETI, they are created and run by independent third-party.

E.g. for BOINCstats:

Willy de Zutter
boincstats.com
The Netherlands
http://boincstats.com/en/page/disclaimer


(If on TV you see some table of sport events this does not mean that the television company organizes or manages those sport events)

1838) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1295450)
Posted 15 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Rephrase your question, "i cannot figure out" ;) what you ask.
What "table" and what "other projects" are you talking about?

1839) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Completed, validation inconclusive (Message 1294814)
Posted 13 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Read this:
http://www.google.com/#q=+site:setiathome.berkeley.edu+GTX+560+Ti+BOINC+SETI+errors

GeForce GTX 560 Ti is 'famous' here for making CUDA errors if run at high MHz but low V (as most of the early factory OC versions).

One of the threads on the subject:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66124

***

On your tasks is shown:
clockRate = 1810000 (probably means 1810 MHz Shader Clock)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2657588563

NVIDIA say:
Processor Clock (MHz) 1645 or 1464
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-560ti/specifications
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-560-ti-oem/specifications

1840) Questions and Answers : Getting started : BOINCstats reports wrong user Id (Message 1294719)
Posted 13 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

User ID on every Project is different.

E.g. my User ID is 8647488 for SETI@Home:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=8647488

but not for other Projects:
http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/show_user.php?userid=5849
http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/show_user.php?userid=264329
http://orbit.psi.edu/oah/show_user.php?userid=23167

If in 'Your account' here I click on BOINCstats link:
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/7857e9fc356c31d5b09ecae27eb45005

... I see User ID 56976 which is just a number for use only by BOINCstats for 'BOINCstats/BAM! | BOINC combined - User stats - BilBg'
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/56976

(the last 2 links show the same page)


To see (on BOINCstats site) your Project User ID:
Click 'Project list' tab
Click the small white/blue square at the right (on the SETI@Home line)

For me it opens my BOINCstats page for SETI@Home Project ('BOINCstats/BAM! | SETI@Home - User stats - BilBg') and on that page is my SETI@Home User ID 8647488:
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/0/user/detail/8647488

1841) Questions and Answers : Windows : Transfer Points From One Account to another? (Message 1293415)
Posted 10 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You didn't say why did you create this new account when you have access to the older (with credit)?

1842) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation error in all Seti GPU work (Message 1293052)
Posted 9 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I wonder if setting CUDA_GRID_SIZE_COMPAT=1 is making the Lunatics CUDA applications to run slower?

(in case someone using stock application sets this, then decides to use Lunatics and keeps/forgets CUDA_GRID_SIZE_COMPAT=1)

1843) Questions and Answers : Preferences : 2 Computers different locations (Message 1293036)
Posted 9 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The merge will not work if you still have tasks associated with the old computer IDs:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6731688
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6610114

Wait for 'No tasks to display' as here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6639847

Now you (probably) can merge 6639847 + 6783221
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?sort=rpc_time&rev=0&show_all=1&userid=879282

1844) Questions and Answers : Wish list : various potential improvements (Message 1293012)
Posted 9 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

For "idea #1" you may want to get BoincTasks:
http://www.efmer.eu/boinc/boinc_tasks/

Screenshots:
http://prikachi.com/gallery_view.php?user=18390&gal=11810


For "idea #2" I don't know easy way to view stderr.txt "for completed tasks that have been uploaded but not yet reported"
(I'm using also BoincMonitor (from BoincTasks install dir) and BoincLogX - shows part of stderr.txt, saves more in boinc.csv)

* for running (started) tasks the stderr.txt is in 'slots' sub-dirs 0, 1, ...

* to check manually stderr.txt for completed tasks that have been uploaded but not yet reported:
- Copy client_state.xml somewhere and play with this copy
- search for <stderr_txt> (e.g. Ctrl+F in Notepad)

1845) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : CUDA tasks missing from my computer (Message 1291832)
Posted 6 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The JCW-OEM-11 machine ...

Only you see the names, for us give ID: - it is probably 6262670 - it had have at some point 'SETI@home Enhanced (anonymous platform, nvidia GPU)' tasks (Number of tasks completed 36143):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=6262670

If you didn't change the NVIDIA Driver recently:
then you very probably installed BOINC with "Protected application execution" (which disables GPU computing)

To remedy:
Uninstall BOINC (task/prefs will be preserved - do not delete anything manually)
Install BOINC again and on the "Advanced" Uncheck "Protected application execution"

1846) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Not getting tasks? (Message 1291694)
Posted 5 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

They had some problem for ~8 hours (the white dip in the green):
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets;ranges=d

... and now the demand for tasks (of ~200 000 'hungry' computers) is big, tasks are 'sucked' faster than can be generated:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html


Usually people discuss similar problems in "Panic Mode On (XX) Server Problems" threads here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_forum.php?id=10

1847) Message boards : Number crunching : Can't download the lunatics installer 0.40 (Message 1291682)
Posted 5 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Isn't your needed version somewhere here?:

NVIDIA Forceware:

http://www.filehippo.com/download_nvidia_forceware_vista/
http://www.filehippo.com/download_nvidia_forceware_vista_64/

http://www.filehippo.com/download_nvidia_forceware_xp/
http://www.filehippo.com/download_nvidia_forceware_xp_64/


AMD Catalyst Drivers:

http://www.filehippo.com/download_ati_catalyst_xp/
http://www.filehippo.com/download_ati_catalyst_xp_64/

...

1848) Message boards : Number crunching : Can't download the lunatics installer 0.40 (Message 1291658)
Posted 5 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Can we read somewhere what is the exact problem that Intel 'found'?

(I think this Intel act will turn against themselves the way Rambus/RDRAM affair did (when you try to push something by force people may just step away).
Intel compilers are optimized for Intel CPUs which make the builds ('non-intentionally') run faster on Intel than on AMD.
Now it appears that other 'general' free compilers/libraries will be used which may make the apps be more AMD friendly (or just not fast enough on Intel).
)

1849) Message boards : Number crunching : Can't download the lunatics installer 0.40 (Message 1291581)
Posted 5 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Since I never cared about so called 'licensing' (of any program) I find it amusing that:
- If we (the users) already have the program we can use it regardless of this 'licensing' abracadabra
- But we may not give (publicly) the same code (that was free) to others (that probably already used Lunatics Installers but deleted them from the HDD thinking they will be always available for download)

??

1850) Message boards : Number crunching : Can't download the lunatics installer 0.40 (Message 1291579)
Posted 5 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Will anyone be angry if I (or anybody) upload the Lunatics v0.40 Installers to a free hosting site
and give the link?

1851) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : CUDA tasks missing from my computer (Message 1291576)
Posted 5 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I only now checked - you don't have (or BOINC do not detect) any computer with NVIDIA CUDA GPU:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=38734

1852) Questions and Answers : Windows : unable to get work working. (Message 1291035)
Posted 4 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You can't have more running tasks than your system allows.
If you see all CPU cores at 100% and your GPU at high load then Milkyway@home is using all the resources at the moment.

How many tasks show "Running" in BOINC Manager?
Check also the list of processes in Windows Task Manager (sort by CPU %)

1853) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : 2nd GPU not used (Message 1291032)
Posted 4 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
6.12.34 runs both GPU's as it should

Then you are/were affected by the bug in some of 7.0.xx versions that make BOINC sometimes report ridiculously high GPU RAM as in:

NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 460 (driver version unknown, CUDA version 4.20, compute capability 2.1, 134214656MB, 134214259MB available, 941 GFLOPS peak)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69263

You can see/check the old logs in stdoutdae.txt and stdoutdae.old

1854) Message boards : Number crunching : Where are they (CPUs)? (Message 1291026)
Posted 4 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Are you in the circus to laugh??????? Show some respect for the older ones ok? (you joined 27 May 07)

I used at the time (~1983) an 1 MHz Apple ][+ , maybe I'm older ;)

And I really laughed for a minute before be able to post :))
Combination of your complain "not getting CPU tasks" and then "set to 1000 days + everything is ok" was really funny ...

Next time you decide to set some value 10^n times more than the default/usual and for some 'unknown' reason the affected program go crazy: do not complain but think "what I changed recently"

1855) Message boards : Number crunching : Optimize your GPU. Find the value the easy way. (Message 1291023)
Posted 4 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

It will be interesting to know how did you overcome the "ERROR: Unable to copy ......"

1856) Message boards : Number crunching : Seti and Windows8 (Message 1290870)
Posted 3 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
While your post count and credit may be impressive, how are you able to give advice on something you don't even have?

Because this 'spikes in CPU usage' are not related to the OS!
On every system (not only Windows8, not only Windows per se, also on Linux and MacOS (no need to have Linux or MacOS to know that))
you will see spikes if you use "Use no more than: XX% of the processor" if XX% is less than 100%
That's how BOINC do it:
Ageless:
"BOINC has got throttling capability right there in the preferences.
Seek for "Use at most 100% of CPU time" and reduce it to whatever amount you want.
Mind, this will not set the CPU to use that value constantly, but it will run/suspend work on a 10 second basis according to the value you set.

E.g. 80% means BOINC runs applications for 4 seconds, pauses them for 1 second, runs for 4 seconds, pauses them for 1 second.
60% means 2 seconds run, 1 second pause, 2 seconds run, 1 second pause, etc.
"

(so CPU go to 100% for a number of "X seconds run", then go to near 0% for "Y seconds pause")

If you wonder who is Ageless - he is the main writer of BOINC wiki pages:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/w/?title=Local_preferences&action=history


(Long story made short, it's not always good to run something wide open constantly)

Most people here run their computers at 100% computing all the time for years. (all cores, 100% of CPU time, all GPUs)
If you don't have temperature/overheating issues it is no problem for the hardware.
Switching on/off may cause more wear than running constantly at 100%

"Use no more than: XX% of the processor" is there only to fight temperature/overheating issues, not anything else.

If you want to fight lag in games (caused only by GPU apps):
Uncheck "Use GPU while computer is in use" here:



1857) Message boards : Number crunching : Seti and Windows8 (Message 1290510)
Posted 3 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
When clicking on Threadmaster, in the instructions it says:
Configuration
ThreadMaster has no GUI interface, all configuration is done by using a well known tool "Regedit".

I don't use ThreadMaster (and never did), I also don't use the BOINC CPU Throttle mechanism ("Use no more than: XX% of the processor"/"Use at most XX% of CPU time"),
I use TThrottle (to be protected from overheating the CPU or GPU if e.g. fan stops)
I don't see why anyone will need "Use no more than: XX% of the processor" except for temperature/heating issues which TThrottle solves best in a smart way.
(so the question is: Why do (you think) you need "Use no more than: XX% of the processor" to be set lower than 100%?)


If your saying that the issue i'm having with windows8 is normal, then how can i make it as stable as on the other OS systems? (None of my other machines act the way windows8 does)

I'm not sure what "issue" you have except the spikes in CPU usage (and probably connected with them "pops") - nothing to do with the OS version.
Probably you use different settings (via local BOINC prefs) "on the other OS systems"?

How to avoid the spikes is already answered:
(Simple View) Use no more than: 100% of the processor
(Advanced view) "Use at most 100% of CPU time"

(web - do Not have effect since you already use local prefs) Suspend work when non-BOINC CPU usage is above 0% (shown also as --- %)
(local - switch to Advanced view to see it) While processor usage is less than 0 percent


Would you have any idea why I would hear the pop in my case?

Probably:
- Temperature changes (because CPU/GPU load changes) cause expand/shrink of the components.
Not good thing - better keep temperature 'constant' (slow/small changes) and not very high (15-20°C under the max allowed working temperature for CPU/GPU).
- If sound is like sparks - some component/cable/contact may be loose (when CPU/GPU load become high the electrical current increases, if contact is bad may cause sparks)
- Are you sure the sound is coming from inside the case? (switch off the speakers to test)

In the Windows8 machine, i have 2 hard drives.
I disconnect 1 to connect the other.
1 hard drive has windows8, the other has windows7.
The pop i hear is inside the case and only when i have the windows8 running. (NOT in the speakers)

So it's not "Windows8 machine", it's just a "machine" ;)
You have different installations of BOINC with (probably) different local settings on the "2 hard drives".

Try to find where the 'pop' comes from with the case opened.
Try will you hear the 'pop' if you load/idle the CPU with some other program (e.g. start/stop Benchmark in WinRAR or 7-Zip)

Another (bad) possibility is that the HDD with Windows8 on it is making this clicking sound (sign that this HDD may die any moment)


Also, how many cores are running on Your install of Windows8 ?

Cores ? :) - if you see the pictures from TThrottle:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68948&postid=1277084#1277084

... you'll see I have one-core CPU
(the white line is the temperature of this 1 core, the brown - for GPU, the red flat line - the Max I set for the CPU (the Max I set for the GPU is 64°C and not visible on this graph))

That I have one-core CPU is also shown in my computer details:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4832843

Windows8 ??
I don't have it, I don't want to have it,
I don't use it, I don't plan to use it in the next 10 years.

1858) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1290481)
Posted 3 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The name is Raistmer, he is the main developer of this "AstroPulse applications for GPUs"


the app was SETI astropulse with GPU turned on

By "GPU turned on" you probably mean?:
Use ATI GPU yes
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

Even if "GPU turned on" this does Not mean that the AstroPulse task was run on GPU
(and if that happened before 8 Aug 2012 then it for sure was computed on CPU)

Before making conclusions you have to be sure that the task was sent for your GPU
(You see "Running (0.XX CPUs + 1 ATI)" in BOINC Manager and you see "AstroPulse v6 v6.04 (ati_opencl_100)" on the web)

1859) Questions and Answers : Windows : No new wok for a while (Message 1290341)
Posted 2 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

See if this will shed some light
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69469&postid=1286059#1286059
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69354

1860) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU not processing WUs (Message 1290338)
Posted 2 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

One of SETI@home participants (HAL9000):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=792

... created this page which you may find interesting/useful:
http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet.htm

1861) Message boards : Number crunching : Optimize your GPU. Find the value the easy way. (Message 1290329)
Posted 2 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
V 1.5 http://www.efmer.eu/forum_tt/index.php?topic=974.msg5946#msg5946


1)Fixed: Progress indicator dropped back to 0.
- Partially fixed (for AP): it shows and do not drop back to 0 but now stays at 11% till task end

2) Not fixed: Count actually run is one more than the selected by the drop down box:
(the same problem happened (I reported it before) with previous versions with <maxAutoCount>3</maxAutoCount>
Now I replaced this with <showMaxCount>1</showMaxCount> and selected 0.33 from the GUI)

1) If you can send me the file every time it's update I can check what's going on. All files that appear while processing.
2) OK.

If you get 'my' last package:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69136&postid=1287852#1287852

... it contains ready-to-use NVIDIA AP (if you don't want to spend time to prepare NVIDIA AP yourself)
This will allow you to test in real time.

The files to monitor are only 3:
pulse.out0
pulse.out1
pulse.out

They update in some 'unknown' order.

Get 3x3 samples of them here:
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-c89d93d1.html

1862) Message boards : Number crunching : Seti and Windows8 (Message 1290315)
Posted 2 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If i set "Use no more than -% of the processor" to 100%, the CPUs stay at 100%. It does not drop 1%.

Normal. What bothers you with that?
(it will not affect games if you think so)


If i set it for example 50%, it will jump from around 10% to around 75%. maybe a little more. it just constantly bounces up and down none stop.
It basically goes around 20% over what ever it's set to, with a spike randomly higher at times.

Normal (with the way BOINC do this), explained in the link


I read over the link you supplied. I really don't want to mess with Regedit.

Where did you see Regedit??


Would you have any idea why I would hear the pop in my case?

Probably:
- Temperature changes (because CPU/GPU load changes) cause expand/shrink of the components.
Not good thing - better keep temperature 'constant' (slow/small changes) and not very high (15-20°C under the max allowed working temperature for CPU/GPU).
- If sound is like sparks - some component/cable/contact may be loose (when CPU/GPU load become high the electrical current increases, if contact is bad may cause sparks)
- Are you sure the sound is coming from inside the case? (switch off the speakers to test)


In the Bonic manager (Simple View), click Tools>>Computing preferences.
Its the 4th dropdown menu.

It was long time ago when I last looked at 'Simple View'.
The BOINC Simple View setting "Use no more than: XX% of the processor"
is the same as BOINC Advanced view "Use at most XX% of CPU time"
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Simple_View
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Advanced_view
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Local_preferences

1863) Message boards : Number crunching : Where are they (CPUs)? (Message 1290298)
Posted 2 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It is set to 1000 and plus 10 days, everything is ok ...

Don't make me laugh :)))

1864) Message boards : Number crunching : Seti BOINC workunit to sound convert script (Message 1290273)
Posted 2 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

My changes (on XP - tested and modified by BilBg)

@echo off
echo Hello World !
echo This is little helper to convert BOINC! Seti@Home Workunits to WAV sound files
echo Works on fully downloaded WUs  (filesize approx 366 kB)
echo wu2wav convert utility is from http://gamma.nic.fi/~jknutar/wu2wav/
echo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
echo Usage: 
echo Put WU files into root directory of this script (next to !RUN SCRIPT.cmd)
echo Wait for conversion ...
echo.
echo Workunits you can find in BoincData directory, the default is:
echo Windows XP/2000
echo C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\
echo Windows Vista/7
echo C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\ 
echo WU names look like 19au10ab.6447.7842.15.10.47, 27my13ad.25088.142475.7.12.23
echo Tested on Windows 7 only (and on XP - tested and modified by BilBg)
echo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
echo If you want improve this script send me patch, advice to user info at domain gpsfreemaps.net
echo When you like it and want send some money click on donate button on my web
echo http://gpsfreemaps.net /// Thanks and be kind to other people
echo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
pause

dir /b | findstr -r "^[0-9][0-9][a-z][a-z].*[0-9]$"        > wulist_all
dir /b | findstr -r "^[0-9][0-9][a-z][a-z].*[0-9]\.vlar$" >> wulist_all

echo.
echo *******   Number of All found WUs:
FIND /V /C "XXXXXXXstring" wulist_all

rem.> wulist
FOR /F %%G IN (wulist_all) DO  IF NOT EXIST .\waves\%%G.wav  Echo %%G>> wulist

echo.
echo *******   Found WUs still not converted to WAV:
FIND /V /C "XXXXXXXstring" wulist
type wulist | more
pause

FOR /F %%G IN (wulist) DO (

 echo %%G

 echo Adding Trailing header
 echo ----------------------------------------------

 echo nsamples=1048576 > new
 echo end_seti_header >> new

 echo Extracting sound data in horrible way. Sorry
 echo ----------------------------------------------

 script_files\tail -n -5464 %%G >> new
 script_files\head -n 5464 new > work_unit.sah
 echo. | script_files\wu2wav.exe
 :: del work_unit.sah %%G new
 move work_unit.wav .\waves\%%G.wav

)

echo.
echo                    _____________________
echo                    === End of script ===
pause

1865) Message boards : Number crunching : Where are they (CPUs)? (Message 1289970)
Posted 1 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69430&postid=1286511#1286511

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6755411


"It is working!!!!!!! I am only getting WUs for ATI. Thank you for your assistance BUT my AMD it inst working"
'AMD': AMD C-60 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
'ATI': Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 380 @ 2.53GHz + AMD ATI Radeon HD 5x00 series (Cedar) (512MB) driver: 1.4.1741 ("I have the same config in this other pc")

1866) Message boards : Number crunching : Where are they (CPUs)? (Message 1289968)
Posted 1 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
In boinc manager appears (4 CPU + 1 ATI GPU) but in cpu graph widget doesnt show any movement. Only ATI graph widget shows ATI at about 90%.

It shows "Running (0.04 CPUs + 1 ATI GPUs)" (in Status column for AP task)
This is only to inform BOINC that the GPU app probably will use ~4% of one CPU core.


So what are the CPUs doing? Are they lazy?

Don't you remember??
- You disabled the CPU usage by <ncpus>0</ncpus> (You asked: "How can i configure to use only GPU in the cc_config file?")
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69430&postid=1286484#1286484

1867) Message boards : Number crunching : Optimize your GPU. Find the value the easy way. (Message 1289964)
Posted 1 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
V 1.5 http://www.efmer.eu/forum_tt/index.php?topic=974.msg5946#msg5946


From V 1.5 changelog:

In the logging file line ends were \r\r\n now \r\n.
- Yes, result.log fixed (and is now in Unicode)

Added: Max count drop down box.
- Not shown by default, to enable: <showMaxCount>1</showMaxCount>

Fixed: Progress indicator dropped back to 0.
- Partially fixed (for AP): it shows and do not drop back to 0 but now stays at 11% till task end

Not fixed: Count actually run is one more than the selected by the drop down box:
(the same problem happened (I reported it before) with previous versions with <maxAutoCount>3</maxAutoCount>
Now I replaced this with <showMaxCount>1</showMaxCount> and selected 0.33 from the GUI)




1868) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1289890)
Posted 1 Oct 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
AMD Radeon HD 6570 ...

I use the same GPU (in ASUS HD6570 1GB DDR3 - ASUS EAH6570/DI/1GD3(LP))
and have no problems with both AstroPulse and SETI@home Enhanced tasks run on my ATI

Here are my AstroPulse v6 tasks:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=4832843&offset=0&show_names=1&state=2&appid=12

Application details for host 4832843
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=4832843
"
AstroPulse v6 (anonymous platform, ATI GPU)
Number of tasks completed 165
Max tasks per day 351
Number of tasks today 0
Consecutive valid tasks 235
"

My ATI runs at about 50°C (85-95% GPU load) during task run:




Your ATI also produces Valid AstroPulse v6 tasks:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5868605&offset=0&show_names=0&state=3&appid=12

So I wonder how often the driver restarts?
(for me it happened only a few times in the last months if I try to run some very old games and forget to exit BOINC beforehand)

You have many restarts of the app (search for ### Restart) which may cause the problem:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2609731911

Probably the restarts are because of 25% set for:
Suspend work when non-BOINC CPU usage is above XX%
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global

Try to set this to 0 (zero)
(I and most people here prefer to set this to 0)

(the local setting is "While processor usage is less than [ 0 ] percent (0 means no restriction)")

1869) Message boards : Number crunching : Optimize your GPU. Find the value the easy way. (Message 1289453)
Posted 29 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
ERROR: Unable to copy from: D:\My Documents\Downloads\BOINC\BOINC Tasks\x41g\ to: C:\Users\Cliff Harding\AppData\Roaming\eFMer\SetiPerformance, slot: 0
Aborted

Probably because of spaces in both paths (which this program for some reason don't like)

(was too late to edit again so I quote myself)

... but my target folder is this:
D:\Documents and Settings\A & L\Application Data\eFMer\SetiPerformance\slot0\

... and "this program" have no problem with 5 spaces (nor with "&") in: "D:\Documents and Settings\A & L\Application Data\"

1870) Message boards : Number crunching : Optimize your GPU. Find the value the easy way. (Message 1289401)
Posted 29 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Compile the entire program into a single executable file...

I completely disagree (unless you mean SFX ZIP/RAR/7z)
- this will make hard/impossible to add/change the apps/WUs

But maybe more descriptive text or error code (if Fred implements it) may help, e.g.:
ERROR: Unable to copy ......
Aborted (error code: XX returned by FFF function - <descriptive text>)

1) Do you have some read-only files in slot0
C:\Users\Jim\AppData\Roaming\eFMer\SetiPerformance\slot0\

Delete all files from slot0 (or Delete all slot0 slot1 ... folders, they will be recreated)


2) Did you try what Fred suggested?
- Copy manually ALL files from:
C:\videocardtest\SetiPerformance_32_64_1_4\zip\x41g\

... to:
C:\Users\Jim\AppData\Roaming\eFMer\SetiPerformance\slot0\

(to see if any error pops-up)


3) Alex Storey: "are you trying to run the tool straight from the zipped folder?"
Meaning "did you extract the files to a real folder"
or instead "did you just double-click SetiPerformance_32_64_1_4.zip and run the program/exe"
(I remember in Vista this (the Vista's internal zip handling) was implemented very stupid, don't know how it is in Windows 7)

(I think you use real folder else (I think) the message will say "Unable to copy from: C:\.....\TEMP\.....")


But make it easy or im just not interested...ya know....like almost everyone else.

"almost everyone else" easy succeeded to run this program.

I recall only one else reporting this 'copy' problem:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69136&postid=1281569#1281569

ERROR: Unable to copy from: D:\My Documents\Downloads\BOINC\BOINC Tasks\x41g\ to: C:\Users\Cliff Harding\AppData\Roaming\eFMer\SetiPerformance, slot: 0
Aborted

Probably because of spaces in both paths (which this program for some reason don't like)


Notice how nearly 100% of this discussion involves Volunteer Testers

'Volunteer tester' means (I think) nothing more than they run tasks from SETI@home/AstroPulse Beta:
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/

1871) Message boards : Number crunching : Optimize your GPU. Find the value the easy way. (Message 1289374)
Posted 29 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The log files (SetiPerformance.log & result.log) use strange sequence at line ends (line break):
0D 0D 0A (CR CR LF) instead of the usual for Windows 0D 0A

I can't find them.

\r\n \r\n\r\n (D A) only. Give me a specific location.

It is not 'specific', it is on every line break:
Offset(h) 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F

00000000  30 39 2F 32 35 2F 32 30 31 32 2C 20 32 30 3A 30  09/25/2012, 20:0
00000010  36 3A 32 33 20 2D 2D 20 53 74 61 72 74 75 70 0D  6:23 -- Startup.
00000020  0D 0A 30 39 2F 32 35 2F 32 30 31 32 2C 20 32 30  ..09/25/2012, 20
00000030  3A 30 36 3A 32 34 20 2D 2D 20 53 74 61 72 74 20  :06:24 -- Start 
00000040  72 65 61 64 69 6E 67 20 63 6F 6E 66 69 67 2E 78  reading config.x
00000050  6D 6C 0D 0D 0A 30 39 2F 32 35 2F 32 30 31 32 2C  ml...09/25/2012,
00000060  20 32 30 3A 30 36 3A 32 34 20 2D 2D 20 3C 64 61   20:06:24 -- <da
00000070  74 61 3E 20 3C 6E 61 6D 65 3E 4D 42 36 5F 77 69  ta> <name>MB6_wi
00000080  6E 5F 78 38 36 5F 53 53 45 33 5F 4F 70 65 6E 43  n_x86_SSE3_OpenC
00000090  4C 5F 41 54 69 5F 48 44 35 5F 72 33 39 30 3C 66  L_ATi_HD5_r390<f
000000A0  6F 6C 64 65 72 3E 4D 42 36 5F 77 69 6E 5F 78 38  older>MB6_win_x8
000000B0  36 5F 53 53 45 33 5F 4F 70 65 6E 43 4C 5F 41 54  6_SSE3_OpenCL_AT
000000C0  69 5F 48 44 35 5F 72 33 39 30 3C 65 78 65 3E 4D  i_HD5_r390<exe>M
000000D0  42 36 5F 77 69 6E 5F 78 38 36 5F 53 53 45 33 5F  B6_win_x86_SSE3_
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000000F0  33 39 30 2E 65 78 65 3C 70 61 72 61 6D 65 74 65  390.exe<paramete
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Offset(h) 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F

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000000E0  53 53 45 32 5F 4F 70 65 6E 43 4C 5F 41 54 49 5F  SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_
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00000170  32 35 20 53 65 70 74 65 6D 62 65 72 20 32 30 31  25 September 201
00000180  32 20 2D 20 32 30 3A 33 31 3A 31 32 20 44 65 76  2 - 20:31:12 Dev
00000190  69 63 65 3A 20 30 2C 20 43 6F 75 6E 74 3A 20 30  ice: 0, Count: 0
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1872) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Reinstalling BOINC and the Seti account (Message 1289302)
Posted 29 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I just reinstalled my W7 op sys. After install ran BOINC 3....28 and installed clients such as Eienstein, Milkyway and others that I have run for years.

None of your accounts is showing any other projects = you improperly create (new) accounts at every project.
You have to use the same email on all projects (password may be different)

And every time on every (new) computer (or new OS) you have to choose "Yes, existing user":



1873) Message boards : Number crunching : RAC, BOINC Resource Share and SETI WU's (Message 1289275)
Posted 29 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So here's the change.
1) All projects get disk space reduced to 4 gigs except for Einstein which goes to 3 as it seems to need lots of space (this an attempt to curb its activity).
2) The WU's cache settings SETI remains at 2 & 10 but all the rest get changed to 2 & 4 with the exception of Einstein with goes to 1 & 3.

And how do you do that? (since these separate settings are not possible)
- "WU's cache settings" is total work (sum) from all the projects (in calendar days)
- The "disk space allowed" (3 values, most restrictive is used) is total disk space BOINC can use for all the projects in this computer

1874) Message boards : Number crunching : Seti and Windows8 (Message 1289267)
Posted 29 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I ORIGINALLY set the "Use no more than -% of the processor" to 20% to 30% when i'm using the computer, then 40-50% when i go to bed until i noticed the spikes.

Explanation (by Ageless) why you (anybody) see spikes in CPU usage if you set "Use at most XX% of CPU time" to less than 100%
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=7881&nowrap=true#45807

(if you really set "use at most YY% of the processors" this will not cause spikes in CPU usage but instead will free some number of CPU cores from CPU apps/tasks)

If you do this because of temperature - see my post about "Use TThrottle" in the same (above) link.
TThrottle do not cause any spikes in CPU usage (regulates smoothly and only if the temperature is above what you set)


I play some online games also ...

If you restrict CPU usage because of lag in games:
- CPU tasks do not cause any lag (if you use "100% of CPU time" and "100% of the processors")
- only GPU apps/tasks (SETI@home Enhanced v6.10 (cuda_fermi)) can cause lag
so you better set "Do work after idle for X minutes" only for the GPU


When you say GPU loading, are you talking about when the screensaver kicks in?

No, it is about when GPU app/task (SETI@home Enhanced v6.10 (cuda_fermi)) is starting/loading in memory.


"Suspend work when non-BOINC CPU usage is above 70%"

Most people here set this to 0 (zero)
else app starts/stops many times (which may lead to errors and be the cause why you see 'spikes')

1875) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Concerning the memory reported for my gpu's (Message 1287891)
Posted 26 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You at a bookshop yesterday:
- Do you have the book "Is it wise to not ask at all if you don't know what will be the answer?"?
- Sorry, we don't have it.


You at a bookshop today:
- Do you have the book "Is it wise to not ask at all if you don't know what will be the answer?"?
- Sorry, we don't have it.


You at a bookshop tomorrow:
- Do you have the book "Is it wise to not ask at all if you don't know what will be the answer?"?
- Yes, we have it. It was just released to market...

1876) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Windows BOINC reporting incorrect available memory for NVIDIA GPU (Message 1287884)
Posted 26 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I noticed other posts in regard to NVIDIA memory reporting problems and they may have fixed the problem in 7.0.36

To get 7.0.36 look at bottom of this list of All BOINC Versions:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/?C=M;O=A

Mind the warning by Richard Haselgrove (for those people that have existing CUDA tasks):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67785&postid=1266731#1266731

1877) Message boards : Number crunching : Optimize your GPU. Find the value the easy way. (Message 1287868)
Posted 26 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

To Fred:

I understand that this is an 'one-time use' utility and maybe you don't want to invest much time in it
so feel free to ignore any of the following:

1) The progress indicator for AP is not updating correctly:
A few minutes after task start progress indicator is shown (at visually ~20%)
but after a few seconds it drops to 0% (empty bar) and stays this way to the end.

The files to monitor are 3:
pulse.out0
pulse.out1
pulse.out

They update in order.
Either check the last-modified file or check all 3 and show the max <fraction_done>


2) The log files (SetiPerformance.log & result.log) use strange sequence at line ends (line break):
0D 0D 0A (CR CR LF) instead of the usual for Windows 0D 0A

This makes the files difficult to edit - after Save the layout is broken.


3) <maxAutoCount>3</maxAutoCount> runs up to 4 tasks
I can test this only for the ATI AP auto-test (ATI MB error for me on 3 tasks at which time I abort - too much lag)
(I added NVIDIA AP to the package in my previous post, can you test on some of your NVIDIA? I don't know if this happens on x41g test)

My preference/suggestion will be to add drop-down list to the interface to choose maxAutoCount
(and use <maxAutoCount>X</maxAutoCount> from config.xml only as the max value that can be chosen by this drop-down list.
Probably you'll also save the last used value in the registry.
)

4) Process detection: is it possible (not too much work) to detect which program started an GPU app process?
If I forget to exit BOINC and start SetiPerformance
or if at the end of test I start BOINC and then try to exit SetiPerformance
- there is warning/ask to kill the app processes which belong to BOINC

It is in fact good to have some warning that BOINC GPU apps run (e.g. "Exit BOINC before running the tests")
but "kill the app" dialog (again: if not too much work) better not kill processes which belong to BOINC (child processes of boinc.exe)

1878) Message boards : Number crunching : Optimize your GPU. Find the value the easy way. (Message 1287852)
Posted 26 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

New package (18 MB):
All from original SetiPerformance_32_64_1_4.zip
+ 4 OpenCL tests: ATI (MB and AP) and NVIDIA AP

SetiPerformance_32_64_1_4__OpenCL_ATI_NV_Added-by-BilBg.7z
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-45c22d0e.html


OpenCL tests added:

MB6_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r390
MB6_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_r390 (for ATI HD4xxx or to compare the speed difference to HD5_r390 app on ATI HD5xxx+ GPU)

AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r1316
AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_NV_r1316 (Not tested - I don't have NVIDIA)









1879) Questions and Answers : Web site : Idle Processors, but not requesting WUs (Message 1287716)
Posted 25 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

This happens when you have several stuck uploads
(the exact number of stuck uploads that stop BOINC to ask for more tasks from a project depends on the number of CPUs (and GPUs?) you have.
The BOINC logic behind this: 'why ask for more tasks from a project that do not accept the results back?'
The upload problem is since a few days.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69498
)

(You now have 'In progress (628)' tasks)

1880) Questions and Answers : Windows : S@H wont upload completed work units (Message 1287440)
Posted 24 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

This is only since a few days:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69500

Upload to SETI was working fine maybe >95% of the time in the last year, blue line in these graphs:
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets;ranges=d%3Aw%3Am%3Ay

The blue line on the 'Daily graph' is looking now as saw which is not normal.
See the difference in the smoothness of the blue line in the beginning and end on the 'Weekly graph'

1881) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Windows BOINC reporting incorrect available memory for NVIDIA GPU (Message 1287354)
Posted 24 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Has this been fixed in the newest BETA

I think some fixes were attempted but am not sure how successfully, try to find yourself in change logs:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67785

1882) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Can't create profile??? (Message 1287346)
Posted 24 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Since your old account appears to be never used for BOINC (= is SETI@home Classic account) you may be able to merge the two accounts.
!!! To be able to do this Do NOT add/attach any computers to your old account !
(because BOINC accounts can't be merged!)

* Log-out your old account (look top-right here) and Log-in your new account using your new email.

* Read and understand:
http://www.setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65331
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64442

* Follow the link ("Claim your SETI@home Classic workunits") in my posts (also available from HOME page)
and paste your old email. (the old email is written if you look in your old 'Joined: 3 Apr 99' account)

1883) Message boards : Number crunching : Optimize your GPU. Find the value the easy way. (Message 1287331)
Posted 24 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

* Checkbox: [v] Show progress
Can be done by examining the files e.g. every minute
<prog>0.xxxxx</prog> in state.sah
<fraction_done>0.yyyyy</fraction_done> in pulse.out*

Doesn't write anything. stderr.txt and result.sah are not updated.
Is there a parameter to force check pointing?

OK. I found how to make apps checkpoint every 20 sec:

From some of BOINC slots copy file init_data.xml

Edit the copy to leave only this content:
<app_init_data>
	<checkpoint_period>20.000000</checkpoint_period>
</app_init_data>


Put this small init_data.xml in all app dirs used by SetiPerformance
(e.g. x41g, I used my ATI dirs)

For MB (MB6_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r390) it really updates state.sah every 20 sec.
For AP (AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r1316) it updates pulse.out* at the first moment possible (+0.111111 per update) - for my GPU it takes 1:25 between updates.

(pulse.out* means any (last modified) of pulse.out pulse.out0 pulse.out1 pulse.out2 files)

1884) Message boards : Number crunching : Optimize your GPU. Find the value the easy way. (Message 1287319)
Posted 24 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

* Checkbox: [v] Show progress
Can be done by examining the files e.g. every minute
<prog>0.xxxxx</prog> in state.sah
<fraction_done>0.yyyyy</fraction_done> in pulse.out*

Doesn't write anything. stderr.txt and result.sah are not updated.
Is there a parameter to force check pointing?

I monitored manually:
<prog>0.xxxxx</prog> in state.sah (for MB)
<fraction_done>0.yyyyy</fraction_done> in pulse.out* (for AP)

The 0.xxxxx and 0.yyyyy change once per several minutes.

Look the saved files in SetiPerformance_32_64_1_3__ATI-added-by-BilBg.7z:
...\SetiPerformance_32_64_1_3__ATI-added-by-BilBg\zip\_TEMP_\txt MB\
state MB 1.sah : <prog>0.29107451</prog>
state MB 2.sah : <prog>0.60192638</prog>

...\SetiPerformance_32_64_1_3__ATI-added-by-BilBg\zip\_TEMP_\txt AP\
pulse Y.out1 : <fraction_done>0.222222</fraction_done>
pulse Z.out : <fraction_done>0.333333</fraction_done>
pulse.out : <fraction_done>0.888889</fraction_done>


About 'parameter to force check pointing' I don't know, Jason and Raistmer should know.

1885) Message boards : Number crunching : Optimize your GPU. Find the value the easy way. (Message 1287317)
Posted 24 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

1) HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\eFMer\SetiPerformance\window_position

2) I don't know what the graph window is supposed to show; for me it shows only faint vertical grid on black background and counting times at bottom

3) It seems that <maxAutoCount>3</maxAutoCount> is zero-based

4) Checkbox: [v] Wrap text(some lines are long)

5) Save the results to file (e.g. SetiPerformanceResults.log)

6) Can we have an option to not convert everything to lowercase?

7) Checkbox: [v] Show progress

8) The problem is how to show many running tasks.


1) Positions should be stored almost at once.
But on exit it's best to use use Start->Shutdown.
Pressing the power button may cause Windows to force a quick power down.
And this means some parts of the registry aren't stored.

I mean I just exit the program (SetiPerformance), not Windows.
Several times I started SetiPerformance, moved the 2 windows around, exit SetiPerformance.
Start again SetiPerformance - the 2 windows appear at the center of screen (the graph behind the main), not where I moved them before.
Only after I Resized+Moved them the new position was saved.
(all this was done in XP 32-bit)

For testing/reproducing this: probably 'a new install behaviour' (reset window to default size/position) can be simulated by deleting the values from:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\eFMer\SetiPerformance\window_position


2) The graph starts at the beginning of the text.
Or you can choose "Run continuously"
In the xml file you can adjust the colors, use the Read xml button for instant results.

Yes, I choose "Run continuously" and changed the colors (at the time of my tests ~12 Sep 2012) (e.g. the color of text/clock visibly changed) - no graph appear that I can see.
I still don't know what the graph window is supposed to show? GPU load? GPU temp?


3)Is intended for some cards that run out of memory, as you set the value, you should be able to remember it. Or add it to the task name

But is <maxAutoCount>3</maxAutoCount> zero-based?
I mean if you want max 3 tasks/GPU to be tested which of these to use?:
<maxAutoCount>2</maxAutoCount>
<maxAutoCount>3</maxAutoCount>

I used <maxAutoCount>3</maxAutoCount> and max 4 tasks was run (look my ATI AP log)


8)The number of slots is unlimited, it depends on the devices / count.

I mean - how to show progress (of many running tasks) in the interface
It will be hard to fit 256 but maybe 8-16 will be easier.
You can possibly use 1 pixel horizontal lines or similar?

1886) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : CUDA tasks missing from my computer (Message 1286506)
Posted 22 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Lower 'Maintain enough tasks to keep busy for at least XX days'
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69354&postid=1284998#1284998

1887) Message boards : Number crunching : Same WU takes more time in Lunatics (ATI) than only CPU ? (Message 1286489)
Posted 22 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It is working!!!!!!! I am only getting WUs for ATI. Thank you for your assistance BUT my AMD it inst working. Always getting that error. HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP

How can anyone "HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP" if you say just "Always getting that error"
And what you mean by "It is working for ATI" "BUT my AMD it inst working" (AMD and ATI is the same company now)

1888) Message boards : Number crunching : Problem with one computer (Message 1286487)
Posted 22 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'll check the physical card ...

Don't waste your time, this is not physical issue, CUDA is recognized.


delete the driver and reload it

There is 'Clean install' option during the driver custom/advanced install.
Make sure OpenCL is checked if there is such check-box in the driver install.

Run GPU-Z (is OpenCL checked?) and GPU Caps Viewer (run OpenCL tests/demos) to verify your OpenCL driver is working:
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/


I have the latest version of BOINC

You use BOINC 7.0.28 which is the latest 'Recommended version'
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

But it's not the 'latest' compiled version (see the (bottom of) list/files in the link: All BOINC Versions):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69469&postid=1286059#1286059

1889) Message boards : Number crunching : Same WU takes more time in Lunatics (ATI) than only CPU ? (Message 1286478)
Posted 22 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
21-09-2012 01:50:58 | | Config: report completed tasks immediately
21-09-2012 01:50:58 | | Config: use all coprocessors

OK, these lines show that (some) cc_config.xml is used.
(are you sure you did edit the one in C:\ProgramData\BOINC and not some copy)


Nothing happens about the CPUs used, no indication of not using CPU

For test - try to change the line to:
<ncpus>1</ncpus>

Don't forget to restart BOINC after edit.
(probably just re-read of the config file will be OK for this option but it will be better to restart BOINC)

Then you have to see this in the log:
Number of usable CPUs has changed from 2 to 1. Running benchmarks.
max CPUs used: 1


And always getting this error even after reseting the project
21-09-2012 01:54:50 | SETI@home | Task 29my12ag.30645.3360.12.10.56_1 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file
21-09-2012 01:54:50 | SETI@home | If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project.

This happens for everyone from time to time.
Usually caused by some 'heavy' program, high HDD load, lack of free RAM (paging) - very probable with 'Memory 750 MB + Windows 7', network problems
- all that makes the computer unresponsive (for 30 seconds).
Unless you get 100s of these messages per day no need to worry.

Do not reset the project - the advice is for users of stock apps (in case the stock .exe is broken the reset will download new stock .exe file, not the case for you: 'SETI@home | Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform')

1890) Questions and Answers : Windows : AstroPulse v6 6.0.4 (opencl_nvidia_100) does not pause (Message 1286460)
Posted 21 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I don't usually react well to people telling me to do things with my computer without a `why` included.

Then just ask `why`?
(instead of thinking that "we want to force you buy things")

I didn't even imagine that you will not know/guess why I gave advice "You can try to disable Aero" (an advice given many, many times)
as that advice appears just after "CUDA also make errors because of low VRAM (256MB)" and several lines that show your GPU have lack of free memory.
The entire discussion was about lack of free video memory (supported by evidence (app messages)).

And how "disable Aero" (disable visual effect) can be connected with viruses is beyond me...

1891) Message boards : Number crunching : Same WU takes more time in Lunatics (ATI) than only CPU ? (Message 1286089)
Posted 21 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

What about my other questions?
Is the file really used/recognized by BOINC?
Did you restart BOINC after edit?

On which Computer ID do you try this?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=8405154

What do you mean by "nothing happens"?

1892) Message boards : Number crunching : Same WU takes more time in Lunatics (ATI) than only CPU ? (Message 1286076)
Posted 21 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Post (copy here) the entire contents of cc_config.xml

Is the file name exactly cc_config.xml (Not cc_config.xml.txt | config.xml | config)?
Where you put the file? (copy the full folder name)

Did you read the link/page 'Client configuration' before making the edit?


E.g. my cc_config.xml looks like this (Do Not use any line from it if you don't understand what it does, this is just an example):
<cc_config>

   <log_flags>
      <benchmark_debug>1</benchmark_debug>
      <dcf_debug>1</dcf_debug>
      <checkpoint_debug>0</checkpoint_debug>
      <work_fetch_debug>0</work_fetch_debug>
   </log_flags>

   <options>
      <start_delay>13</start_delay>
      <ncpus>-1</ncpus>

      <max_file_xfers>20</max_file_xfers>
      <max_file_xfers_per_project>10</max_file_xfers_per_project>

      <save_stats_days>1100</save_stats_days>
      <max_stdout_file_size>5242880</max_stdout_file_size>

      <zero_debts>0</zero_debts>
   </options>

</cc_config>

1893) Message boards : Number crunching : Problem with one computer (Message 1286059)
Posted 20 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
9/20/2012 6:02:01 AM | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0 (not used): GeForce GTX 550 Ti (driver version 295.73, device version OpenCL 1.1 CUDA, 1024MB, 931MB available)
9/20/2012 6:02:01 AM | | App version needs OpenCL but GPU doesn't support it


The same issue (I think), was fixed by installing BOINC 7.0.36
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69354

All BOINC Versions:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/?C=M;O=A

1894) Message boards : Number crunching : I had a job stop too early, how can I restart it? (Message 1285956)
Posted 20 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Probably this is the task:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2610152142

All looks good, just a noisy task. (you will know for sure when it become 'Validate state Valid')
Which is very probable since you have reliable computer: Invalid (0) · Error (0)

1895) Message boards : Number crunching : Same WU takes more time in Lunatics (ATI) than only CPU ? (Message 1285950)
Posted 20 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The more proper way will be to set 'Use CPU no' here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

... but it will affect only SETI@home
You will not get more CPU tasks from SETI@home in the future.
CPU tasks you already have will remain and will be computed.


The way to stop CPU usage/tasks for entire BOINC:
<ncpus>0</ncpus>

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration
"
<ncpus>N</ncpus>
Act as if there were N CPUs; i.e. to simulate 2 CPUs on a machine that has only 1.
To use the number of available CPUs, set the value to -1
(was 0 which in newer clients really means zero to e.g. only allow GPU computing).
"
1896) Questions and Answers : Windows : AstroPulse v6 6.0.4 (opencl_nvidia_100) does not pause (Message 1285939)
Posted 20 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm also unsure of what the point is of repeatedly telling me that the batches are failing due to my graphics card's vram.

No one said exactly that - you omitted the most important word: LOW
- "failing due to my graphics card's LOW (free) vram." (the Video RAM is working OK, it is just small amount (on the edge) to run GPU tasks)

I many times bolded the important:
256MB,
low VRAM (by VRAM I just mean the installed on the card RAM chips, not specific technology),
cudaMalloc (Malloc = Memory allocation, function used by program to ask for XX MB)
out of memory (? What can by more clear than that? - no free Video RAM for the app. Many programs exist that can show the amount of used/free Video RAM)
ERROR in device memory allocation

(I never said 'Video RAM is failing', I said "task error because of low VRAM", "... or by low free VRAM", "CUDA also make errors because of low VRAM (256MB)")

1897) Questions and Answers : Windows : AstroPulse v6 6.0.4 (opencl_nvidia_100) does not pause (Message 1285935)
Posted 20 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The information is only useful if an attacker has your IP address.

Or you're using Internet Explorer...

But this has nothing to do with hide/unhide your computer info on this site (on any project site)
(To make it clear: no one attacked you based on computer info visible here, you just visited some 'bad' or hacked site)

1898) Message boards : Number crunching : Is there a top limit to credit? (Message 1285719)
Posted 20 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I don't know where you see this but 2^32 = 4294967296
so 4,294,967,295 is the max unsigned integer number (0xFFFFFFFF) that can fit in 32 bits (4 bytes)

1899) Questions and Answers : Windows : AstroPulse v6 6.0.4 (opencl_nvidia_100) does not pause (Message 1285705)
Posted 20 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
And thank you for noticing I `hid` my computer. I wasn't previously aware that anyone on the internet could see that information, so I changed the setting.

Can you see a way to identify me (as a human, not as some ID) from the info visible to you from my computer?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4832843


I changed the settings for SETI so it would only give me non-astropulse batches, since those are a problem.

Don't forget:
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? no

*****

But CUDA also make errors because of low VRAM (256MB):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2611439209

Cuda error 'cudaMalloc((void**) &dev_GaussFitResults' in file 'c:/sw/gpgpu/seti/seti_boinc/client/cuda/cudaAcceleration.cu' in line 314 : out of memory.
setiathome_CUDA: CUDA runtime ERROR in device memory allocation (Step 1 of 3). Falling back to HOST CPU processing...

The only Valid 'SETI@home Enhanced v6.09 (cuda23)' task was actually made on the CPU:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2611439207

setiathome_CUDA: CUDA runtime ERROR in device memory allocation (Step 1 of 3). Falling back to HOST CPU processing...


You can try to disable Aero (the glass effect) but you may not like the ugly look of Windows
(I don't know if they supply some XP theme with Windows 7 Ultimate, there is no such theme with Vista)

1900) Questions and Answers : Windows : Worked great (for a while).. But now, nothing (Message 1285699)
Posted 20 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
9/14/2012 10:27:35 PM | | App version needs OpenCL but GPU doesn't support it

Similar issue but with NVIDIA is covered here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69354

1901) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : Issue w/Seti work, Boinc 7.0.31 (X86) (Message 1285600)
Posted 19 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Now, I am really concerned. I have not set any priority.

Not you, BOINC do this automatically if it thinks the task is in danger to miss the deadline.
The 'High Priority' means only reordering of the tasks (which of them will be computed now), no Process Priority is changed.


The due dates on the projects are what are concerning to me.

Yes, they (those 'Running, High Priority') are due in Aug 2012, you probably will not get credit for them.
(did your computer remain OFF for a long time (weeks,months)?)

As I already said - I do not run Climate Prediction, I'm not sure how their tasks run, on their site you only have 2 task:
http://climateapps2.oerc.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/results.php?hostid=909909&offset=0&show_names=1&state=1

hadam3p_pnw_bm3i_1998_1_008032880_0
hadam3p_eu_ctt0_2005_1_007996773_1

For now [Suspend] all that are 'Running, High Priority' (they are not in your task list on the site)
except the one at 91% Progress/25h Remaining
(to see if you will get credit for it after reporting it - if No credit given - [Abort] all that are due in Aug 2012)

1902) Questions and Answers : Web site : Not marking as read (Message 1285582)
Posted 19 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Same with http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=38907

Gruß,
Gundolf

I tried yours on IE8 and it did change from read to unread

You wanted to say from unread to read?

In Opera 11.64 'Welcome to Technical News (READ FIRST)' stays marked as unread.
("This thread is sticky and locked, and you haven't read it yet")
(F5, Ctrl+F5, Shift+F5 to refresh the 'Message boards : Technical News' page do not change that)

The same happens for 'Donate to SETI@home, get discounts on telescopes and more' from the first post.

1903) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation error in all Seti GPU work (Message 1285191)
Posted 18 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Everything seems to be present and correct and now I can see that the problem with lack of work units is not something I can fix so it's just a matter of being patient.

There is no "lack of work units" (at servers), the problem is not to get them assigned to you, the problem are the slow (with failures/retries) downloads.

You still have only CPU tasks from SETI.
Did you check?:
1) Make sure you have 'Use NVIDIA GPU yes' in:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

Is BOINC 'Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA' from SETI?
Do Einstein@Home CUDA tasks 'Running, High Priority'?

1904) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation error in all Seti GPU work (Message 1285089)
Posted 18 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I look to see if any version of the CUDA runtime DLL is present in the project directory: cudart*.dll

Success, your detection works - the CUDA is now checked by default
(I faked the file as cudart77_55_33.dll <- no, I don't have 77-bit system ;) )

1905) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : cuda_fermi running on non Fermi GPU (Message 1285084)
Posted 18 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
GTX275 is the one generating the errors.

Some of the latest (18 Sep 2012) errors are from GeForce GTX 275

But those from 14 Sep 2012 are from GeForce GTX 680 (as was the case when I checked on 1 Sep 2012, at that time all of them showed GTX 680):

setiathome_CUDA: CUDA Device 1 specified, checking...
Device 1: GeForce GTX 680 is okay
SETI@home using CUDA accelerated device GeForce GTX 680
.....

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2604714532
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2604694358
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2604694350
.....


These 2 are from 28 Aug 2012 and show only GTX 680
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2582100946
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2582100958

Stderr output
<core_client_version>7.0.28</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
Incorrect function. (0x1) - exit code 1 (0x1)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
setiathome_CUDA: Found 1 CUDA device(s):
   Device 1 : GeForce GTX 680 
           totalGlobalMem = -2147483648 
           sharedMemPerBlock = 49152 
           regsPerBlock = 65536 
           warpSize = 32 
           memPitch = 2147483647 
           maxThreadsPerBlock = 1024 
           clockRate = 1058500 
           totalConstMem = 65536 
           major = 3 
           minor = 0 
           textureAlignment = 512 
           deviceOverlap = 1 
           multiProcessorCount = 8 
setiathome_CUDA: CUDA Device 1 specified, checking...
   Device 1: GeForce GTX 680 is okay
SETI@home using CUDA accelerated device GeForce GTX 680
setiathome_enhanced 6.09 Visual Studio/Microsoft C++
libboinc: 6.3.22

Work Unit Info:
...............
WU true angle range is :  0.427204
Optimal function choices:
-----------------------------------------------------
name                
-----------------------------------------------------
              v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)
            v_GetPowerSpectrum 0.00018 0.00000 
                   v_ChirpData 0.01435 0.00000 
                  v_Transpose4 0.00645 0.00000 
               FPU opt folding 0.00328 0.00000 
CUFFT error in file 'd:/Projects/SETI/seti_boinc/client/cuda/cudaAcc_fft.cu' in line 62.

</stderr_txt>
]]>


*****

I don't say that all tasks are errors, you have 'Valid (139)'
I say that your confidence that only "GTX275 is the one generating the errors" is not correct.

1906) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation error in all Seti GPU work (Message 1285026)
Posted 18 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Clear as mud?

;) I can see clearly now, the mud has gone. I can see all obstacles in my way ...

Just out of curiosity - what do you check/inspect to find the older/in-use CUDA apps?
Some file masks in the directory (like *CUDA*.*), some strings in client_state.xml, ...?

1907) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : Issue w/Seti work, Boinc 7.0.31 (X86) (Message 1285010)
Posted 18 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
1. Yes, I do have Climate Prediction running. I currently have seven tasks, Boinc Manager reports one as "running," five "Running, High Priority,"and one "Ready to Start,"

'Running, High Priority' is one of the things that can make BOINC not request new tasks.
('High Priority' means 'Run that task first, it is in danger to miss the deadline')
BOINC is in panic mode - it thinks it will not have enough computing time.

Maybe because you changed your habits?
Maybe in the past months you used the computer for 12 hours/day - then BOINC get enough tasks to 'fill' that time (for months ahead (?) since Climate Prediction tasks are long (as I heard, I do not run Climate Prediction))

But now you use the computer (together with the running BOINC) for 5 hours/day (% of time BOINC is running 20.7241 % - this is % of wall clock time, your computer is shutdown/sleeping 80% of the day)

Or maybe BOINC was underestimated the Climate Prediction tasks (e.g. was thinking the task will be computed in 1 month but now realize it will need 5 months)


Average CPU efficiency 0.891583 [!!!! Isn't this extremely low?]

Not important value (not used by BOINC to make decisions), I think the max for this is 1.0 (and I'm not sure how this is calculated, it does not show the speed of the CPU)


Network usage
Computer is connected to the Internet about every --- days
Leave blank or 0 if always connected.
BOINC will try to maintain at least this much work.

!!! This is OLD wording, wrong advice ('Leave blank or 0 if always connected'), BAD value (--- means ZERO days minimal work/tasks on-board)

At SETI this same setting is changed to read:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global

Maintain enough tasks to keep busy for at least XX days
(max 10 days).
... and up to an additional YY days

Change ---/XX to e.g. 3 days

Do the change at one project (e.g. SETI) - it will propagate to others automatically when you [Update] from BOINC Manager all of projects
(first the one where you did the change of 'Computing preferences')

1908) Questions and Answers : Windows : merge accounts (Message 1285001)
Posted 18 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have two boinc accounts the first one was set up under an e-mail address no longer available

It doesn't matter if the e-mail address is 'available'/existing or not.
It doesn't matter if the e-mail address ever existed.
I have 'empty' account registered using e-mail of the form 99999@7777.555
(such e-mail can't exist but it of course works for log-in the SETI account)

(No, you can't merge your 2 BOINC accounts, choose one and use it)

1909) Questions and Answers : Windows : No new work units downloading (Message 1284998)
Posted 17 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Locally agrees with site

Doesn't matter if it agrees - local settings are in effect if they exist.
(unless some setting can be changed only on web - in this case there is no local value that can replace/override it)


Minimum work buffer - 10 days
Max additional Work buffer - 4 days

As I posted before: "If X is too big you will wait longer before you get your first CPU tasks."

BOINC 'Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA', server sees the NVIDIA is faster than CPU and sends only for NVIDIA until full 10 days of GPU work is in your computer.

Make this 1 + 0.1 days and you'll immediately get tasks for CPU (since your NVIDIA already have tasks for 1 day)
(you may up the days later, after you have some tasks for CPU)

If you know (calculate) that NVIDIA already have tasks for 5 days you may set this to 5 + 0.1 days
(you'll know you found the right spot if BOINC 'Requesting new tasks for CPU' only)

1910) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation error in all Seti GPU work (Message 1284945)
Posted 17 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Ensure the 'Multibeam (cuda)' section is ticked - it should be by default

Sorry, Richard - it's not, this is the default:




(I have ATI and Not NVIDIA but I think the Lunatics Installer do not check the type of CPU/GPU
You was one of the Lunatics Installer makers, didn't you? ;)
)

1911) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation error in all Seti GPU work (Message 1284932)
Posted 17 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Now it's even worse, I usually get a failure to connect to server ...

That is for everyone (line is overloaded):
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets;ranges=d

* Now you have only CPU tasks:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5280605&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1&appid=

Which probably means you didn't select/include the CUDA app as on the picture:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69317&postid=1282503#1282503

Or do you want to devote your GPU to Einstein@Home?:
http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/results.php?hostid=5826115&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1


*** If you want SETI CUDA tasks:

1) Make sure you have 'Use NVIDIA GPU yes : http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project'

2) Do you have these files:
Lunatics_x41g_win32_cuda32.exe	654 291		2011-11-23 18:10
cudart32_32_16.dll		105 519		2011-05-17 14:54
cufft32_32_16.dll		1 795 899	2011-05-17 14:54
MBCuda.aistub			341		2011-11-23 18:10


3) Do you have this part in app_info.xml
(this is copy from MBCuda.aistub with removed <app_info> and </app_info>
Check that <app_info> appears only at the beginning of your app_info.xml
and </app_info> appears only at the end (use Ctrl+F in Notepad and search for string app_info).
)
    <app>
        <name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>Lunatics_x41g_win32_cuda32.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>cudart32_32_16.dll</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>cufft32_32_16.dll</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>610</version_num>
        <plan_class>cuda_fermi</plan_class>
        <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus>
        <coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>Lunatics_x41g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
         </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
	       <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>cufft32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>609</version_num>
        <plan_class>cuda23</plan_class>
        <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus>
        <coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>Lunatics_x41g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
         </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
	       <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>cufft32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>608</version_num>
        <plan_class>cuda</plan_class>
        <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus>
        <coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>Lunatics_x41g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
         </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
	       <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>cufft32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
1912) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : NVIDIA GPU restarting my system (Message 1284710)
Posted 17 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I think 87°C is very high for Pentium 4 - they are usually rated for up to 70-75°C (unless this is some Mobile/laptop chip rated for ~90°C)
http://pclinks.xtreemhost.com/
http://pclinks.xtreemhost.com/elec.htm#intel_desktop

Are you sure the heatsink is clean from dust?

You may use TThrottle to protect CPU and GPU from overheating:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68948&postid=1277084#1277084

1913) Questions and Answers : Windows : AstroPulse v6 6.0.4 (opencl_nvidia_100) does not pause (Message 1284705)
Posted 17 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I'm curious how long did you wait after 'Snooze GPU'?

Yes, the process is "problematic" for your GPU, the last task error because of low VRAM (GeForce 8600 GT (256MB)):
ERROR code: CL_MEM_OBJECT_ALLOCATION_FAILURE
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2606927149


***

No point to hide your computer when you ask for help, we already know the number:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6732519

And I see new driver:
NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT (256MB) driver: 306.23

But no any 'In progress' tasks, something is not set correctly.

1914) Questions and Answers : Windows : No new work units downloading (Message 1284693)
Posted 17 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Except for this line (which don't seem to cause problems):
9/15/2012 11:47:08 PM | | Couldn't get Device IDs for platform #1: error -1

... everything else is/looks now OK


For not (still) getting tasks for CPU (despite BOINC 'Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA'):
What are your WU cache settings? (X+Y days)
If X is too big you will wait longer before you get your first CPU tasks.

Check those settings (X+Y days) locally (in BOINC Manager), you already use local settings:
9/15/2012 11:47:08 PM | | Reading preferences override file

1915) Questions and Answers : Windows : S@H stops when I try to browse (Message 1284680)
Posted 17 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

On your picture it's already set to 0 (zero):
(if you normally use the settings in BOINC Manager (those on the picture) the same web-settings do not matter)




And you can't expect BOINC to do work (to start the computing apps) while you "browse" (= use the computer)
until you Enable/Check at least one of the red-arrows:




You can see that what you claim in your first post:
"preferences set to use 100% of the CPU"
- is true only about 100% 'CPU time', not about the 100% of the 'CPU chip/cores'

(but it's OK (not wrong) to free a core to feed the GPU
OTOH I'm not sure that this particular GPU integrated in-the-CPU is faster than one CPU core.
)

***

You have another issue: for some reason 'download error' for:
<file_name>astropulse_6.04_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati_100.pdb</file_name>
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6770255&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2607404516

May be caused by your antivirus?

1916) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : Issue w/Seti work, Boinc 7.0.31 (X86) (Message 1284668)
Posted 17 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I currently do have two other projects running on BOINC. All three have equal resources. The first two do receive work from their project servers.

Which "first two"?

You only (maybe) have 2 task from:
http://climateapps2.oerc.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/results.php?hostid=909909&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1

(No 'In progress' tasks shown for Quake Catcher Network, Rosetta@home, SETI@home)

Do you allow computation 'while computer is in use'?

At the bottom of this pages:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4586844
http://climateapps2.oerc.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/show_host_detail.php?hostid=909909

... what are the values for:
% of time BOINC is running 91.1347 %
While BOINC running, % of time host has an Internet connection 99.3118 %
While BOINC running, % of time work is allowed 99.9754 %
Task duration correction factor 1.829205

(the above values are from one of my computers, only you can see yours)

1917) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : setiathome_6.05_i686-apple-darwin dominating processes (Message 1284664)
Posted 17 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Does anyone know anything ...

Yes, I know that those "TWO processes" can't "hog 65% or more of the %CPU time" because they run at lowest priority
If they use 65% CPU then no other process wants to use that part of CPU time.
(all other processes need and use at that moment 35% CPU total, only the remaining free time is used by SETI apps))

And they are "TWO processes" because you have 'Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo'

Make BOINC to Not "start from bootup" and start it manually later.
You will see that something other is "slowing everything else down"
(most probably high HDD load)

1918) Message boards : Number crunching : Optimize your GPU. Find the value the easy way. (Message 1284658)
Posted 17 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It's the spaces that are killing you

Very probably spaces are the problem.

My corresponding path have no spaces:
J:\Data.All\Downloads.Bit\Software\Science\Test\Bench\SetiPerformance_32_64_1_3__ATI-added-by-BilBg\zip\x41g\

Obviously this tool don't like spaces (in config.xml instead of Space it needs the corresponding hex ASCII %20):
	<data>
		<name>x41z%2064%20bit%20cuda%2042</name>
		<folder>x41z_64_cuda42</folder>
		<exe>Lunatics_x41z_win32_cuda42.exe</exe>
		<parameter>%20--device%20%device</parameter>
	</data>
1919) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : Attach to project (Message 1284129)
Posted 15 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

So you used Tools menu ... and then ...
(At what point in procedure did you had problem. Say "I clicked this, I chose that then XYZ happened")

1920) Message boards : Number crunching : Optimize your GPU. Find the value the easy way. (Message 1284113)
Posted 15 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Try to put it NOT in C:\Program Files\

1921) Message boards : Number crunching : Scheduler request failed: Failure when receiving data from the peer (Message 1284084)
Posted 15 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Any other suggestions, except from just waiting until things resolve magically?

Try some Proxy server (try to read most of the thread before acting, there are corrections/additions in the later posts):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64691


I mean, once uploaded the result is there, isn't it?

Yes, but this is only a file copy.

Lets say you go to a friend's computer, he's not there, you decide to copy some nature photos to:
C:\Photos
(and you add more the next days)

Do you think he will find them?
Do you think he will know who put them there?

Not before you call him (after a week) and say "Hey, look in C:\Photos , I put some 1000 files for you"

Which is better than:
you copy 1 file, make a phone call "see the file #1"
you copy 1 file, make a phone call "see the file #2"
you copy 1 file, make a phone call "see the file #3"
.........


The reporting tells the server all the filenames of your result files (they go in different folders on the server) at once which is like "one phone call tells it all"

1922) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation error in all Seti GPU work (Message 1284061)
Posted 15 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I checked the application folder and the app_info.xml file had disappeared!

Strange things happen to your app_info.xml
First aimerge.cmd wasn't able to create it (even on Desktop where you have for sure all the read/write/... (administrative) rights)

Now it disappeared ...

The 'problem' is that BOINC do not write to that file, only reads it.
BOINC will delete app_info.xml only if you [Remove] SETI (the older term 'detach from SETI') - but this will delete all the files for SETI
(You can always check which processes run and by their names see if you are running stock or the opti apps.)

Which antivirus do you use (I really suspect it - check the Quarantine)

You maybe missed this post about Avast antivirus:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69317&postid=1282103#1282103


I'll recreate the xml file ...

You can copy it from your post.

1923) Message boards : Number crunching : AP's waiting for validation... (Message 1284044)
Posted 15 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Also, the result that is compared to canonical result can't be similar for this bug to show. If the third and canonical are similar everything works just fine.

So to check the 3 results for weak similarity all 3 result files are needed?
But there exist only 2 result files - the canonical and #3 ?

Is there need all the result files to exist for successful weak validation
or the #3 result file can be/is compared with the data stored already in the database?

1924) Questions and Answers : Windows : S@H stops when I try to browse (Message 1283994)
Posted 15 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
get "CPU usage to high" (only running Chrome)

... and I'm sure several tabs of Facebook ...?
... with the resource-hog list of 100s 'friends' at right opened/visible?

Blame the stupid student-grade (or school-made) type of script/html programing at Facebook (and what ugly interface!)
So say "WTF?!" to the proper place - Facebook

(I hate Facebook)

1925) Questions and Answers : Windows : No new work units downloading (Message 1283982)
Posted 15 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Other client is working fine.

But you run different versions:
BOINC: 7.0.31 vs 7.0.28
NVIDIA driver: 301.42 vs 266.71


If I load 7.0.36 - is there a way to get a clean install, or just update?

No need for "clean install" for now - the changes are in the code (boinc.exe) which will be replaced by "update" install.
(there may be some funny bug like e.g. one function writes string "OpenCL_CUDA" and another part of the code checks for string "OpenCL" or "CUDA_OpenCL" or ...)

1926) Questions and Answers : Windows : No new work units downloading (Message 1283974)
Posted 15 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It is working, as the OpenCL capability of his GPU is being detected, it's just not being used. And how that's possible, I'm trying to figure out with the developers.

I saw all that - OpenCL detected by BOINC but in contrast "App version needs OpenCL but GPU doesn't support it"??
I wanted to check by GPU Caps Viewer (OpenCL tests/demos) that OpenCL really computes and the driver is not somehow partially disabled.

I wonder what will happen if we try to run off-line tests on that computer - will the NVIDIA OpenCL app run correctly (without BOINC) - i.e. will it detect OpenCL and then compute OK
(I think the OpenCL SETI apps by Raistmer have their own detection of OpenCL devices if BOINC do not supply this info)

1927) Questions and Answers : Windows : AstroPulse v6 6.0.4 (opencl_nvidia_100) does not pause (Message 1283964)
Posted 15 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I did not exit boinc at the time, however.
I figured it would break the work I had done
(as killing the processes had done in the past).

You can exit BOINC whenever you like and it will NOT "break the work" done so far (BOINC tells to the app nicely "Please, exit" :) ).

After you start BOINC the tasks will restart at around the Progress % it was before.
(at least for SETI and most other projects, SETI apps checkpoint usually every minute. Only some 'rare' projects do not checkpoint)

But "killing the processes" WILL error the task.
Do not use this 'technique', there are many others (e.g. exit BOINC, Snooze from the tray icon, Activity menu, Suspend the project)

1928) Questions and Answers : Windows : No new work units downloading (Message 1283403)
Posted 14 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

1) See this my post and try to run GPU-Z (is OpenCL checked?) and GPU Caps Viewer (run OpenCL tests/demos) to verify your OpenCL driver (part of the NVIDIA driver package) is working:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69272&postid=1281750#1281750

2) in BOINC Manager: check in Projects tab - select SETI@home - do you have button [Allow new tasks]?
(if you see button [No new tasks] it is OK (it means you now allow new tasks))

3) You don't say what kind of tasks do you want to get from SETI@home
If you want them all - check this page:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

... and set:

Use CPU yes
Use NVIDIA GPU yes

SETI@home Enhanced: yes
AstroPulse v6: yes
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? yes


(Since you are "Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA" probably 2) is OK and 3) is at least partially enabled)

1929) Questions and Answers : Windows : AstroPulse v6 6.0.4 (opencl_nvidia_100) does not pause (Message 1283396)
Posted 14 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

1) I don't use such setting ("to pause tasks on user activity") but I think that GPU tasks, especially AstroPulse, need 1-2 minutes before the app realize that need to pause

2) Do you see the process boinctray.exe running? (it is the one that detects mouse and keyboard usage = user is active)

3) The 'Error tasks for computer 6732519':
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6732519&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=

... are probably caused by the 'sleep bug' in the NVIDIA driver: 295.73
(the 'sleep bug' is/was related to CUDA disappearing but maybe also affects OpenCL)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68206

... or by low free VRAM (GeForce 8600 GT (256MB))

4) If NVIDIA OpenCL AstroPulse tasks cause errors/lag for you why do you not try to run NVIDIA CUDA SETI@home Enhanced tasks instead?

1930) Message boards : Number crunching : A Plague of Invalid Cuda Results (Message 1282884)
Posted 12 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Read the 5 links in this my post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66434&postid=1179893#1179893

In one of them is this post by jason_gee:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66093&postid=1170102#1170102

1931) Message boards : Number crunching : AP inconclusives (Message 1282875)
Posted 12 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Сигурно знаеш за тази страница:
http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet.htm

Catalyst 11.5 ... 11.11 have 'high CPU usage bug' for OpenCL (I don't know what Catalyst version is 'equal' to SDK 2.5)

I use Catalyst 11.12 on Win XP32 for AMD Radeon HD 6570
I think that the 12.x series is intended mainly to give support for the HD 77XX
For older GPUs probably no improvements are added after 12.1 (except for some games which I doubt is relevant for Windows Server 2003)

1932) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : NVIDIA GPU restarting my system (Message 1282758)
Posted 12 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I suggest - don't use the screensaver (any 3D screensaver) while you compute on older GPUs
In Windows screensaver settings select (None) (instead of BOINC)

You don't say anything about the CPU and GPU temperatures

If CUDA apps work OK and only 'OpenCL NVIDIA 100 app. for AstroPulse' causes errors/BSOD - better disable getting AstroPulse tasks

1933) Message boards : Number crunching : Optimize your GPU. Find the value the easy way. (Message 1282725)
Posted 12 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

@Fred

Small (but too many ;) ) suggestions (mostly cosmetic) for SetiPerformance:

* (bug?) The position of the 2 windows is not saved to the registry if I move the windows in their original size and exit the program.
The position and size is saved if I also resize the main/graph windows.

I even didn't know that position/size are supposed to be remembered until I found:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\eFMer\SetiPerformance\window_position

* I don't know what the graph window is supposed to show; for me it shows only faint vertical grid on black background and counting times at bottom

* It seems that <maxAutoCount>3</maxAutoCount> is zero-based
For the AP auto-test it runs up to 4 tasks

* Show maxAutoCount in the Results, e.g.
Starting automatic test: (ap6_win_x86_sse2_opencl_ati_r1316), maxAutoCount: 3

* count vs instance vs task vs ... - which is better?:
Runtime: Device: 0, count: 1, 1948 seconds
Runtime: Device: 0, instance: 1, 1948 seconds
Runtime: Device: 0, task: 1, 1948 seconds

* Checkbox: [v] Wrap text
(some lines are long)

* Save the results to file (e.g. SetiPerformanceResults.log) automatically
(while the results are created, not at the end - in case the program is terminated prematurely for any reason)

* Can we have an option to not convert everything to lowercase?
(So the strings will be shown as are in the config.xml
I prefer MB6_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r390 instead of mb6_win_x86_sse3_opencl_ati_hd5_r390)

* Checkbox: [v] Show progress
Can be done by examining the files e.g. every minute
<prog>0.xxxxx</prog> in state.sah
<fraction_done>0.yyyyy</fraction_done> in pulse.out*

(probably can also be done by shared memory but I don't know the details)

If no file still exist (at task startup) show ??% or --% or ...

The problem is how to show many running tasks.
Most people will run max 4 tasks on the single GPU they have.
But seeing how you create 256 slots (slot0 ... slot255) you are prepared for some big monster ;)

1934) Message boards : Number crunching : Optimize your GPU. Find the value the easy way. (Message 1282687)
Posted 11 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:


ATI tests using SetiPerformance 1.3

I think this is the first report for ATI tests (I managed to make it run both MB and AP ATI tests)

If you want to get this combined experimental package (all files from the original + ATI tests added by me) use the link bellow:
(I hope Fred will not be angry that I supply this)

SetiPerformance_32_64_1_3__ATI-added-by-BilBg.7z - 17 MB:
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-04a5fb4f.html


---===---===---

Before you run the tests:

* A) Look in config.xml and change the 'parameter' for MB/AP if you wish.

As you can see I use:
-period_iterations_num 20 (which is the default in the app_info.xml created by Lunatics installer)
-unroll 3 (which I choose for my AMD Radeon HD 6570 which have 'Number of compute units: 6'; if no -unroll is specified the .exe by (internal) default uses -unroll 2)

<parameter>%20--device%20%device%20-instances_per_device%204%20-period_iterations_num%2020%20</parameter>
<parameter>%20--device%20%device%20-unroll%203%20</parameter>

(The additional 'Space' char %20 at the end is intentional - to avoid error if you add something in the 'Parameters' field (in the program window) and forget to add initial Space ' ' there)


If you want e.g.
-period_iterations_num 44
-unroll 11

1) You may edit to:
<parameter>%20--device%20%device%20-instances_per_device%204%20-period_iterations_num%2044%20</parameter>
<parameter>%20--device%20%device%20-unroll%2011%20</parameter>


2) Or you may delete to:
<parameter>%20--device%20%device%20-instances_per_device%204%20</parameter>
<parameter>%20--device%20%device%20</parameter>

... and paste the options/parameters/cmdline:
  -period_iterations_num 44  -unroll 11  
in the 'Parameters' field (additional spaces are good, no space is bad).
(I think the .exe will just ignore any cmdline parameter it do not understand, e.g. MB app will ignore -unroll)


* B) For AP ATI tests: to get better/real timings - use 'bin' files compiled for your GPU:
- you need to do the following only once for a given GPU:
Start the AP test
Wait ~1 minute (or until you see high GPU load)
run Open Slots.cmd
go to slot0
copy all (2) 'bin' files from slot0 to:
...\SetiPerformance_32_64_1_3__ATI-added-by-BilBg\zip\AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r1316\

[Cancel] the test


(Now you can start SetiPerformance and [Test ...] again many times - the AP app will now use the prepared 'bin' files.
You can have a mix of 'bin' files (in zip\AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r1316\) compiled for different GPUs.

The work_unit.sah file is there only to fool SetiPerformance to run ;)
The real AP WU is in.dat
)


! Don't forget to exit BOINC before tests or at least Snooze GPU !


---===---===---


AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r1316:




For my AMD Radeon HD 6570 there is no difference in heat generation for 1...3 AP ATI tasks:




MB6_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r390:





Judging from the times and lag and possible errors I decided to try (in BOINC/SETI/app_info.xml):
For AP ATI: <count>0.48</count>
For MB ATI: <count>0.51</count>

This way BOINC will run either: 1 MB, MB+AP, AP+AP
But these variations in usage cause DCF to fluctuate 1.0 ... 2.8
(runs this way ~12 hours now in MB+AP 'variant')

***

Test logs (AMD Radeon HD 6570, Win XP32, Catalyst 11.12):

For AP ATI:

Starting automatic test: (ap6_win_x86_sse2_opencl_ati_r1316)

10 September 2012 - 20:08:27 Start, devices: 1, device count: 1 (1.00)
10 September 2012 - 20:08:27 Set: ap6_win_x86_sse2_opencl_ati_r1316 , Exe: ap6_win_x86_sse2_opencl_ati_r1316.exe , Parameters: --device %device -unroll 3
10 September 2012 - 20:21:06 Runtime: Device: 0, count: 0, 758 seconds
10 September 2012 - 20:21:06 Device: 0, Count: 0, finished.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Results: Device: 0, device count: 1, average time / count: 758, average time on device: 758 Seconds (12 Minutes, 38 Seconds)
Next :---------------------------------------------------------------------------
10 September 2012 - 20:21:06 Start, devices: 1, device count: 2 (0.50)
10 September 2012 - 20:21:06 Set: ap6_win_x86_sse2_opencl_ati_r1316 , Exe: ap6_win_x86_sse2_opencl_ati_r1316.exe , Parameters: --device %device -unroll 3
10 September 2012 - 20:45:20 Runtime: Device: 0, count: 0, 1452 seconds
10 September 2012 - 20:45:20 Device: 0, Count: 0, finished.
10 September 2012 - 20:45:26 Runtime: Device: 0, count: 1, 1458 seconds
10 September 2012 - 20:45:26 Device: 0, Count: 1, finished.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Results: Device: 0, device count: 2, average time / count: 1455, average time on device: 727 Seconds (12 Minutes, 7 Seconds)
Next :---------------------------------------------------------------------------
10 September 2012 - 20:45:26 Start, devices: 1, device count: 3 (0.33)
10 September 2012 - 20:45:26 Set: ap6_win_x86_sse2_opencl_ati_r1316 , Exe: ap6_win_x86_sse2_opencl_ati_r1316.exe , Parameters: --device %device -unroll 3
10 September 2012 - 21:21:24 Runtime: Device: 0, count: 2, 2156 seconds
10 September 2012 - 21:21:24 Device: 0, Count: 2, finished.
10 September 2012 - 21:21:32 Runtime: Device: 0, count: 1, 2164 seconds
10 September 2012 - 21:21:32 Device: 0, Count: 1, finished.
10 September 2012 - 21:21:33 Runtime: Device: 0, count: 0, 2165 seconds
10 September 2012 - 21:21:33 Device: 0, Count: 0, finished.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Results: Device: 0, device count: 3, average time / count: 2161, average time on device: 720 Seconds (12 Minutes, 0 Seconds)
Next :---------------------------------------------------------------------------
10 September 2012 - 21:21:34 Start, devices: 1, device count: 4 (0.25)
10 September 2012 - 21:21:34 Set: ap6_win_x86_sse2_opencl_ati_r1316 , Exe: ap6_win_x86_sse2_opencl_ati_r1316.exe , Parameters: --device %device -unroll 3
10 September 2012 - 22:08:26 Runtime: Device: 0, count: 1, 2809 seconds
10 September 2012 - 22:08:26 Device: 0, Count: 1, finished.
10 September 2012 - 22:08:36 Runtime: Device: 0, count: 3, 2819 seconds
10 September 2012 - 22:08:36 Device: 0, Count: 3, finished.
10 September 2012 - 22:08:47 Runtime: Device: 0, count: 0, 2830 seconds
10 September 2012 - 22:08:47 Device: 0, Count: 0, finished.
10 September 2012 - 22:09:00 Runtime: Device: 0, count: 2, 2843 seconds
10 September 2012 - 22:09:00 Device: 0, Count: 2, finished.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Results: Device: 0, device count: 4, average time / count: 2825, average time on device: 706 Seconds (11 Minutes, 46 Seconds)

>> The best average time found: 720 Seconds (12 Minutes, 0 Seconds), with count: 0.33 (3)


For MB ATI:

Starting automatic test: (mb6_win_x86_sse3_opencl_ati_hd5_r390)

10 September 2012 - 22:47:32 Start, devices: 1, device count: 1 (1.00)
10 September 2012 - 22:47:32 Set: mb6_win_x86_sse3_opencl_ati_hd5_r390 , Exe: mb6_win_x86_sse3_opencl_ati_hd5_r390.exe , Parameters: --device %device -instances_per_device 4 -period_iterations_num 20
10 September 2012 - 23:04:00 Runtime: Device: 0, count: 0, 986 seconds
10 September 2012 - 23:04:00 Device: 0, Count: 0, finished.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Results: Device: 0, device count: 1, average time / count: 986, average time on device: 986 Seconds (16 Minutes, 26 Seconds)
Next :---------------------------------------------------------------------------
10 September 2012 - 23:04:01 Start, devices: 1, device count: 2 (0.50)
10 September 2012 - 23:04:01 Set: mb6_win_x86_sse3_opencl_ati_hd5_r390 , Exe: mb6_win_x86_sse3_opencl_ati_hd5_r390.exe , Parameters: --device %device -instances_per_device 4 -period_iterations_num 20
10 September 2012 - 23:36:29 Runtime: Device: 0, count: 0, 1947 seconds
10 September 2012 - 23:36:29 Device: 0, Count: 0, finished.
10 September 2012 - 23:36:30 Runtime: Device: 0, count: 1, 1948 seconds
10 September 2012 - 23:36:30 Device: 0, Count: 1, finished.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Results: Device: 0, device count: 2, average time / count: 1947, average time on device: 973 Seconds (16 Minutes, 13 Seconds)
Next :---------------------------------------------------------------------------
10 September 2012 - 23:36:32 Start, devices: 1, device count: 3 (0.33)
10 September 2012 - 23:36:32 Set: mb6_win_x86_sse3_opencl_ati_hd5_r390 , Exe: mb6_win_x86_sse3_opencl_ati_hd5_r390.exe , Parameters: --device %device -instances_per_device 4 -period_iterations_num 20
10 September 2012 - 23:39:06 Runtime: Device: 0, count: 1, 153 seconds
10 September 2012 - 23:39:06 ERROR: Device: 0, Count: 1, finished.

***

Starting test: (mb6_win_x86_sse3_opencl_ati_hd5_r390)

11 September 2012 - 02:02:31 Start, devices: 1, device count: 3 (0.33)
11 September 2012 - 02:02:31 Set: mb6_win_x86_sse3_opencl_ati_hd5_r390 , Exe: mb6_win_x86_sse3_opencl_ati_hd5_r390.exe , Parameters: --device %device -instances_per_device 4 -period_iterations_num 20
11 September 2012 - 02:05:13 Runtime: Device: 0, count: 2, 153 seconds
11 September 2012 - 02:05:13 ERROR: Device: 0, Count: 2, finished.
11 September 2012 - 02:05:13 Runtime: Device: 0, count: 0, 158 seconds
11 September 2012 - 02:05:13 ERROR: Device: 0, Count: 0, finished.


*** 3 MB tasks on my AMD Radeon HD 6570 cause ERROR

(1 or 2 of the r390 processes really exited (as shown in Process Explorer).

The remaining run very slow (monitor <prog>0.XXXX</prog> in state.sah), but I see high >90% GPU load (in SIV) and I feel lag.
GPU temp (in TThrottle) lower than usual for MB (44°C instead of ~50°C)
VRAM usage (shown by old version of ATI MemoryViewer) is too low (<50 MB, normal VRAM usage for one r390 task is 220-250 MB)

I aborted the test after ~1 hour by [Cancel] button.
)


1935) Message boards : Number crunching : Optimize your GPU. Find the value the easy way. (Message 1282512)
Posted 11 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Go again at the link/page where you get Seti Performance

There is short explanation, read after:
"Now that I found out that a count of 2 (0.5) is the best setting, what now? ..."

1936) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation error in all Seti GPU work (Message 1282503)
Posted 11 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I see the following files:
AKv8b_SSE.aistub, APSSE.aistub, and MBCuda.aistub.

* These are not the best (fastest) files for your CPU

Run the installer again and don't leave the check-boxes at the 'default' but better choose:




(Do you exit BOINC before Lunatics install?)


* If again app_info.xml is almost empty:
- Check you have APAVX.aistub , AKv8b2_SSSE3x.aistub , MBCuda.aistub
- Run aimerge.cmd

If that did not create 'good' app_info.xml :
- Make an empty folder on the Desktop
- Copy all (3) the .aistub files and aimerge.cmd to that empty folder
- Run aimerge.cmd from that folder
- app_info.xml will be created in that folder - check the file and if OK copy it back to SETI dir


P.S.
Looking at the contents of aimerge.cmd the only thing I can think of that may create app_info.xml with only <app_info> in it
is if you do not have 'find' tool (C:\WINDOWS\system32\find.exe) in your system:
(but why the last echo command did not add also </app_info> ??)

@echo off & cls
echo.
echo = App_info Merge Utility v 0.1b, Jason G, http://lunatics.kwsn.net =

echo ^<app_info^> > app_info.xml

for %%s in (*.aistub) do echo %%s & type %%s | find /v "app_info" >> app_info.xml

echo ^</app_info^> >> app_info.xml

1937) Questions and Answers : Web site : SETI server backing off downloads problem (Message 1282479)
Posted 11 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The line at SETI is 100 Mbps and is saturated almost all the time by ~ 200 000 computers asking for work:

http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets

1938) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation error in all Seti GPU work (Message 1282218)
Posted 10 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Which *.aistub files (copy the names) do you see in SETI dir (...\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)?

aimerge.cmd just merges them (removing <app_info> and </app_info> tags from *.aistub files and put the same tags only at the beginning and end of app_info.xml)

Do you use Notepad to see the contents of app_info.xml ?

1939) Questions and Answers : Windows : No download of workunit's / 7.0.28 x64 (Message 1282214)
Posted 10 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

PCIe x16 have no impact on OpenCL capability to compute (except probably small speed difference).

Do the OpenCL tests (demos) in GPU Caps Viewer actually work?

1940) Questions and Answers : Windows : why no work? (Message 1281761)
Posted 9 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Check do you have OpenCL driver/support:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69272&postid=1281750#1281750

1941) Questions and Answers : Windows : Cuda work units ending in error (Message 1281760)
Posted 9 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Okay, here is something I notice. First off, if I Uninstall Boinc, remove all folders then reinstall, it works fine until I shut my computer off.
When I restart I start getting the errors.

Next thing I noticed but I'm not sure yet, it seems that when I see the errors start, the WU's usually start out at 13.99%, if I suspend that current WU (the one that is about ready to have an error) then BOINC will skip to the next WU and complete it without any errors....

Maybe something is not fully loaded (after computer restart) when BOINC try to start the apps.
(What happens if you restart BOINC without restarting the computer?)

You may try in cc_config.xml
<cc_config>
   <options>
      <start_delay>33</start_delay>
   </options>
</cc_config>



Did you possibly have set to sleep your HDD after a short period (1 minute)?

1942) Questions and Answers : Windows : No download of workunit's / 7.0.28 x64 (Message 1281750)
Posted 9 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do GPU-Z and GPU Caps Viewer show you have OpenCL driver/support?

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/





1943) Message boards : Number crunching : Shutting down pc (Message 1279965)
Posted 4 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The IP have to be non-existing address else ping will not wait.

I get the Ping 1.1.1.1 from an 1-2 year old .bat file I made then.
I think 1.1.1.1 was not in use by Internet at that time (but now is shown in Australia)

For me it gives:
>Ping 1.1.1.1

Pinging 1.1.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

The example is here:
http://www.robvanderwoude.com/wait.php

1944) Message boards : News : Bug in server affecting older BOINC clients with NVIDIA GPUs. (Message 1279957)
Posted 4 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
ID: 6017961

Are you sure?
This computer shows 'Last contact' with servers on 29 Jul 2012
And 'ATI Radeon HD 2300/2400/3200' GPU and not nVidia

And it have only 3 CPU tasks 'SETI@home Enhanced v6.03' still unreported:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6017961


1 yr old. PSU: 12v/14A, DC pwr 250W

These 2 values seem too small (or at the edge) to me to feed:
AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 645
ATI Radeon HD 2300/2400/3200
HDD
DVD ...

... or the PSU (especially the capacitors) is aging

One year is enough time for accumulated dust to block the CPU/GPU heatsink fins (under the fan) and to cause CPU/GPU overheat

And again: you do not appear to have (had) SETI GPU tasks (ever) so GPU can't be heated by SETI
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=6017961


I'll bury it in the backyard and grieve for my lost data.

Your data (e.g. photos, documents, ...) is on the HDD and is very probably untouched and OK
Put this HDD in another computer and you will find your data probably in D:\Users\<your-name>\... (find here Desktop or Documents)

1945) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : CUDA GPU workunits -- processing errors (Message 1278814)
Posted 1 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have not installed optimised after the latest updates have come out unless it is still seeing the old optimised?

What 'latest updates' are you talking about ('latest' updates for Windows? for BOINC? for NVIDIA? ...)

No update (even for BOINC) will change your 'optimised' (SETI apps),
Only new Lunatics Installer or detach from SETI ([Remove] SETI) can change/delete them.

1946) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : cuda_fermi running on non Fermi GPU (Message 1278808)
Posted 1 Sep 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

It seems to me that all 'Error tasks for computer 6426047' are from the GeForce GTX 680
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6426047&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=

E.g.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2582192637

BOINC will Not use by default the GTX 275 (in your mixed system with GeForce GTX 680 - BOINC uses only the most capable GPU) unless you use in cc_config.xml
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration

Are you sure the GTX 275 was in fact used?

1947) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1277559)
Posted 30 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

:)
If you have money - consider 'thank you' to the author of TThrottle:
Profile: S@NL - Fred - www.efmer.eu/boinc
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/view_profile.php?userid=8906489


[Donate] at the bottom of page:
http://efmer.eu/boinc/

"Why a donation?
The program is absolutely free, but we like to improve TThrottle and supply you with signed drivers.
If you like our program, help us to continue our work.
If you want to give us a donation the minimum amount is $1.
"

1948) Message boards : News : Bug in server affecting older BOINC clients with NVIDIA GPUs. (Message 1277545)
Posted 30 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

How 'big' is the PSU (read the label on it)?
I mean e.g.: what brand/manufacturer/model, 500 W, +5V max 30A, +12V max 20A ...

Which of these is the Computer you speak about (e.g. ID: 6715925):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?sort=rpc_time&rev=0&show_all=1&userid=442383

No nVidia GPU shown (which means SETI can't run on your GPU so can't damage it)

1949) Questions and Answers : Windows : Cuda work units ending in error (Message 1277169)
Posted 29 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So I seem to be having a restart issue.

Hmm, I seem to remember that some BOINC version have this 'restart issue' (e.g. with 'Snooze GPU' from the tray icon) but do not remember which BOINC version was it.

P.S.
You have 'Computers hidden', is it for purpose or you just forget to:
Should SETI@home show your computers on its web site? yes
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

With 'Computers hidden' you will get much less help.
Anyone will be bored to ask for every small single detail as "What BOINC version do you use?"

1950) Questions and Answers : Windows : "Won't get new tasks" (Message 1277164)
Posted 29 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Servers (or Network/Routers/Switches) at SETI lab had have problems for ~9 hours (see the low green on the graph):
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;ranges=d;view=octets

1951) Message boards : News : Recovering from power outage. (Message 1277122)
Posted 29 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"The drives of the server" are fairly new (months) and run in RAID
If one fails they replace it with new empty drive which is automatically resynced (filled with the same 'old' data that was on the broken HDD)

(and 'spinrite' can in fact induce final death to an old aging HDD if you have one)

1952) Message boards : News : Bug in server affecting older BOINC clients with NVIDIA GPUs. (Message 1277092)
Posted 29 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You very probably didn't watch for Temperatures (for CPU, GPU)

There are many Temperature Monitoring Programs for this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62044

Any 'heavy' computing program (as almost all of projects running under BOINC, not only SETI) will Heat the computer if it have no adequate cooling.
Dust buildup in the heatsinks/fans (in the computer) is the most often cause for poor cooling.

The high temperature probably killed your GPU (NVIDIA)

I just made a post about TThrottle here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68948&postid=1277084#1277084

But it is listed at this site from long time ago if you click PARTICIPATE -> Add-on software:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/addons.php

(No program can revive your GPU if it is already burned, but if you see some picture on your monitor (you say "I keep getting a command screen") the GPU may still be alive.
You may try to load/boot OS (e.g. Linux) directly from a LiveDVD to see is the monitor/GPU working in graphics mode.

If you "can't boot from the DVD drive" this computer fault may be a different issue (e.g. PSU problem - not enough electrical current to 'feed' CPU+GPU+HDD+DVD++).
Or you may have 2 unrelated problems: GPU burn because of heat, DVD drive fault because of dirty/weak/old laser or bad/scratched DVD disk.
)

P.S.
You may see some strange example of 'burn' here:
MSI Mainboard no good for BOINC; can/will fry at 100% use (admitted by manufacturer):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69178

1953) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1277084)
Posted 29 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Is there any way to throttle the load put on the GPU?

Yes, this program (TThrottle) will let you choose the Max temperature you want:
http://efmer.eu/boinc/
http://www.efmer.eu/boinc/download.html

After installing and running TThrottle type the Max temperature for CPU and GPU and check 'Auto Active'
This will Throttle processes running under BOINC when these Max temperatures are reached and keep them at that level.

Choose/type 'reasonable' Max temperatures - not too high, not too low
(good is 15-20°C under the Max allowed temperatures for CPU and GPU
e.g.:
if CPU is specified for 70°C Max allowed working temperature - type 55°C in the CPU box
if GPU is specified for 90°C Max allowed working temperature - type 70°C in the GPU box
)




1954) Message boards : Number crunching : Shutting down pc (Message 1276681)
Posted 28 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Another way to do it could be like this:
@echo off

for /r %programdata%\boinc\slots %%i in (*lockfile) do goto boinc_running

echo %date% %time% No active WUs, shutting down. >>autoshutdown.txt
shutdown /s /f
exit

:boinc_running
echo %date% %time% BOINC running. >>autoshutdown.txt



To make it repeat itself you could use Windows Task Scheduler.

OK, that's short.

But add some check that BOINC files are really there
- else the shutdown will happen immediately if BOINC do not exist
(which may happen if this file is (forgotten) in Windows Task Scheduler and user deletes/moves BOINC dir)

@echo off

IF NOT EXIST "%programdata%\boinc\client_state.xml" Exit
for /r %programdata%\boinc\slots %%i in (*lockfile) do goto boinc_running

echo %date% %time% No active WUs, shutting down. >>autoshutdown.txt
shutdown /s /f
exit

:boinc_running
echo %date% %time% BOINC running. >>autoshutdown.txt




1955) Message boards : Number crunching : Shutting down pc (Message 1276671)
Posted 28 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Well, there is shutdown.exe, but I don't know how you might trigger it based on Boinc doing work or not.

With this batch file:
@echo off
goto check_folders
:boinc_running
echo %date% %time% BOINC running.
sleep 300
:check_folders
if exist "C:\ProgramData\BOINC\slots\0\boinc_lockfile" goto boinc_running
if exist "C:\ProgramData\BOINC\slots\1\boinc_lockfile" goto boinc_running
if exist "C:\ProgramData\BOINC\slots\2\boinc_lockfile" goto boinc_running
if exist "C:\ProgramData\BOINC\slots\3\boinc_lockfile" goto boinc_running
echo %date% %time% boinc_lockfile not found, waiting 60 seconds...
sleep 60
if exist "C:\ProgramData\BOINC\slots\0\boinc_lockfile" goto boinc_running
if exist "C:\ProgramData\BOINC\slots\1\boinc_lockfile" goto boinc_running
if exist "C:\ProgramData\BOINC\slots\2\boinc_lockfile" goto boinc_running
if exist "C:\ProgramData\BOINC\slots\3\boinc_lockfile" goto boinc_running
echo %date% %time% boinc_lockfile not found, waiting 60 seconds again...
sleep 60
if exist "C:\ProgramData\BOINC\slots\0\boinc_lockfile" goto boinc_running
if exist "C:\ProgramData\BOINC\slots\1\boinc_lockfile" goto boinc_running
if exist "C:\ProgramData\BOINC\slots\2\boinc_lockfile" goto boinc_running
if exist "C:\ProgramData\BOINC\slots\3\boinc_lockfile" goto boinc_running
echo %date% %time% No active WUs, shuting down.>>autoshutdown.txt
shutdown -s -t 1

This one is for standard installation of BOINC on Windows 7. The sleep.exe is part of the Windows Server 2003 Resource Kit Tools, extract that somewhere and copy sleep.exe to the Windows directory.

If you have many devices, it might me good to increase the number of slots checked, this one I used on a single core machine without a GPU.

It will create a autoshutdown.txt file in the directory where it is run from, where you will see, when the machine has shutdown, if you don't need/want it, remove the corresponding line.


Can you check will this work?:

(It does not use 'sleep' but Ping which is available on every Windows.
Tries to find "boinc_lockfile" in all slots.
!!! - I'm Not sure about the 'ERRORLEVEL 1' - Not tested !!!
)

@echo off
:: !!! - I'm Not sure about the 'ERRORLEVEL 1' - Not tested !!!
echo --- Use Ctrl+C to stop this script ---

:: - Change that directory to yours:
pushd "C:\ProgramData\BOINC\slots\"
IF NOT EXIST "..\client_state.xml" goto ErrDir

goto check_folders

:boinc_running
:: - Pause for 5 minutes (5*60*1000 milliseconds)
echo %date% %time% - BOINC is running - Waiting 5 minutes to check again ...
Ping 1.1.1.1 -n 1 -w 300000  >NUL 

:check_folders
dir /s boinc_lockfile  |  find /c /i "boinc_lockfile"
IF ERRORLEVEL 1 goto boinc_running

echo %date% %time% boinc_lockfile not found, waiting 60 seconds...
Ping 1.1.1.1 -n 1 -w 60000  >NUL 
dir /s boinc_lockfile  |  find /c /i "boinc_lockfile"
IF ERRORLEVEL 1 goto boinc_running

echo %date% %time% boinc_lockfile not found, waiting 60 seconds again...
Ping 1.1.1.1 -n 1 -w 60000  >NUL 
dir /s boinc_lockfile  |  find /c /i "boinc_lockfile"
IF ERRORLEVEL 1 goto boinc_running

POPD
echo %date% %time% No active WUs, shutting down. >>autoshutdown.txt
echo %date% %time% No active WUs, shutting down.
shutdown -s -t 1

Echo --- 'shutdown' command failed or do not exist on this computer.
Pause
goto End

:ErrDir
Echo --- ! This is not your BOINC Data directory!

:End


1956) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1276629)
Posted 28 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm using a Toshiba which evidently has issues with drivers. The verification tool will not even load.

Is this your laptop? (Toshiba Tecra® R850-S8530):
http://us.toshiba.com/computers/laptops/tecra/r850/r850-s8530/

If it is - look here (there is 'AMD Display Driver(06-29-2011; 131.17M)' - but probably it is with 'high CPU usage bug' for OpenCL):
http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/tais/support/jsp/modelContent.jsp?ct=DL&os=&category=&moid=2998365&rpn=PT520U&modelFilter=R850-S8530&selCategory=2756709&selFamily=1073768664

Or try to find your laptop here (and select 'Display' for listing the Display Drivers):
http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/tais/support/jsp/home.jsp?nav=Download

1957) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : show graphic (Message 1276598)
Posted 28 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You have only CUDA tasks: 'SETI@home Enhanced v6.10 (cuda_fermi)'
The SETI@home CUDA apps do not have graphic part.

If you want to see some SETI@home graphic you have to run some SETI@home tasks for the CPU (SETI@home Enhanced v6.03)

To enable:
Use CPU yes

here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project


Then (after you download CPU tasks) you have to select Running CPU (SETI@home Enhanced v6.03) task and use [Show graphics] button.

1958) Questions and Answers : Windows : Cuda work units ending in error (Message 1276595)
Posted 28 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

It's only the CUDA work units that end in error, everyone of them end in error.

The work units say Error-True Exit -1 (0xffffff)

We can see the 'Error tasks for computer 6748434' here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6748434&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=

Some of tasks crash:
- exit code -1073741819 (0xc0000005)
Restarted at 13.99 percent.


... but most tasks give:

- exit code -1 (0xffffffff)
Restarted at 13.99 percent.
SETI@home error -1 Can't create file -- disk full?

It is very strange that all of them 'Restarted at 13.99 percent.'
(They stop processing and restart again probably because you set 'Do not use GPU while user active')

Try (temporarily, to isolate the problem):
- From Activity menu -> Use GPU always
- Do not touch the mouse and keyboard for 5-10 minutes
- Exit maximum number of programs (e.g. browsers, media players, games, hardware monitors, gadgets)
- Set 'Suspend work when non-BOINC CPU usage is above' to 0 (zero)

- And Really test if disabling Norton for 5-10 minutes will eliminate the errors
For me this is very probable cause of errors, based on many reports from the past - try to Google for: BOINC Antivirus Norton

I use NOD32 (which is not causing problems for me), but there are many reports about Trend Micro, Avast!, Avira, McAfee, Kaspersky, Comodo, Norton
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=7633
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=7365
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=2486

http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/forum_thread.php?id=2466
http://boinc.bakerlab.org/forum_thread.php?id=5463
http://boinc01.cern.ch/test4theory/forum_thread.php?id=518
http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=1184


(if you are afraid to disable Norton - stop Internet first (e.g. switch Off the Router) and do not use the computer, just let BOINC run for a while.
Of course you have to have CUDA tasks already downloaded to do the test.
You may suspend them all and [Resume] one by one for tests.
)

If you see that with disabled Norton no more CUDA errors happen - exclude BOINC Data directory from active monitoring/scans.


This is shown for almost all of your CUDA tasks:
Stderr output
<core_client_version>7.0.28</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
 - exit code -1 (0xffffffff)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
setiathome_CUDA: Found 1 CUDA device(s):
   Device 1 : GeForce 210 
           totalGlobalMem = 1073741824 
           sharedMemPerBlock = 16384 
           regsPerBlock = 16384 
           warpSize = 32 
           memPitch = 2147483647 
           maxThreadsPerBlock = 512 
           clockRate = 1238000 
           totalConstMem = 65536 
           major = 1 
           minor = 2 
           textureAlignment = 256 
           deviceOverlap = 1 
           multiProcessorCount = 2 
setiathome_CUDA: CUDA Device 1 specified, checking...
   Device 1: GeForce 210 is okay
SETI@home using CUDA accelerated device GeForce 210
Restarted at 13.99 percent.
SETI@home error -1 Can't create file -- disk full?
in checkpoint()
File: ..\seti.cpp
Line: 395


</stderr_txt>
]]>
1959) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU use questions (Message 1276561)
Posted 28 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You can get this 'CL file' (47 KB - 47,964 bytes) from this direct link and compare with the one you have to see are they the same length/content:
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/AstroPulse_Kernels_r1316.cl


P.S.
Be careful - if you [Reset] the project - all (even finished) tasks will be deleted.

If you decide to do 'Reset':
- set [No new tasks] (from Projects tab)
- Finish all tasks and Report them ([Update] button from Projects tab) (after this the Tasks tab will be empty)
- Now you can do [Reset]
- [Allow new tasks]

1960) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC won't report or DL new tasks on its own (Message 1276207)
Posted 27 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Unfortunately, the same DLL is now used by the stock ATI AP v6 apps. That means BOINC does know about the file and believes it belongs only to the stock app, so deletes it when restarted after the optimized install. And the pertinent definition of a 0xffffffffc0000135 error is that a DLL wasn't found.
                                                                  Joe

You may want to add some warning to the Downloads page:
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9

If I understand it correctly it may be e.g.:

Warning:
For those running stock AstroPulse on CPU and now want to go optimized
- If you have a CPU with SSE2 and above, when you use the installer choose:
SSE2 - 6.01r557
(the r555 may not work because BOINC may delete a .dll file associated/needed for r555)

1961) Message boards : Number crunching : I have an "uploading file" that doesnt appears in the transfers tab... (Message 1276197)
Posted 27 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Is there a slot (e.g. \BOINC-Data\slots\0\) still allocated for the task?

It will have result.sah with the name of the result file in it, e.g.:
<soft_link>../../projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/16ja11ag.861.13733.5.10.125.vlar_1_0</soft_link>

It will have state.sah with this line near beginning:
<prog>0.99887766</prog>

And stderr.txt which you may inspect.


... and the result file is present, but BOINC is not uploading it.

The result file is present very soon after the task starts, check and see for your running tasks (they will have result files even at 0.1 % completed).
The result file is updated constantly while the task runs (to add new signals).

1962) Message boards : Number crunching : Help correcting BOINC startup errors (Message 1276191)
Posted 27 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I did set it up to .333 cpus per task, just to give it a bit more breathing room.

This will not change anything.

If you want a CPU 'core' to be automatically free when 2 CUDA tasks are running: set this value to 0.5
(with 2 CUDA tasks running anything lower than 0.5 will not have any effect)
The sum for the 2 tasks (0.5 + 0.5) have to be >= 1 for BOINC to free a CPU core (which is the only purpose of this parameter)

I'm not sure which of these values is used by BOINC for this calculation:
<avg_ncpus>0.5</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.5</max_ncpus>

1963) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD A8 quirks and the AMD multibeam app from Lunatics (Message 1276183)
Posted 27 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
yes i think the ati part is broken it took 5 and a half months and over 18000 valid tasks for it to show 10 compleated tasks !

For your host another value is strange to me:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=6010887

SETI@home Enhanced (anonymous platform, ATI GPU)
Number of tasks completed 33
Max tasks per day 8787
Number of tasks today 438
Consecutive valid tasks 31

Can "Consecutive valid tasks 31" increase "Max tasks per day" to 8787 ?

1964) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD A8 quirks and the AMD multibeam app from Lunatics (Message 1276172)
Posted 27 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It would be useful to know if all others running that app_version are also not getting updated "Completed" counts. There may be a count from when the servers were working correctly, the question is whether it has incremented recently.
                                                                    Joe

Yes, it is (for me).

BilBg - Posted: 20 Aug 2012
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69039&postid=1273230#1273230
"
For my ATI it works OK:
SETI@home Enhanced (anonymous platform, ATI GPU)
Number of tasks completed 1588
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=4832843
"

Now it is:
Number of tasks completed 1749

1965) Message boards : Number crunching : Not getting everything out of my setup. (Message 1276163)
Posted 27 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Which of your FOUR computers are we talking about?

He is talking about:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6738595

6738595: The one which reports as having an Nvidia card. Reports as having 605 tasks "in progress", but worryingly 211 tasks are shown as having ended in errors. These errors appear to have been fairly recent, and so will affect that cruncher's ability to get new work.

All of them (errors) are from 20 Aug 2012, probably a reboot cured the issue.
The 'Aborted by user' are old (11 Aug 2012 - before starting this thread)


6204850: The one that reports having an ATI card. Reports 77 in progress, but has 15 errors, all aborted by user - this can affect a cruncher's ability to get new work.

The 'Aborted by user' are very old (28 Jul 2012)
The effect of errors on 'ability to get new work' lasts for a day.

1966) Message boards : Number crunching : Not getting everything out of my setup. (Message 1276153)
Posted 27 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Sorry if I come off as angry, just frustrated that in this and my thread the general response was do nothing it'll get better or that it's a run of bad work units, give it more time.

The problem is that for you and for Snowmain (and for some other people) the server do not compute/update this:
SETI@home Enhanced (anonymous platform, ATI GPU)
- Number of tasks completed 0

Yes, this is some server bug and have to be addressed in the SETI lab.
You/Snowmain can just wait (months?) for it to be found/fixed.

But he "Just want the ATI to work" now.
So all the advices given (including your <flops>80e9</flops>) was aimed at:
"How, NOW, to workaround server/BOINC glitches"


PS: Thanks for the info on SIV. I'm not using the auto retry feature ...

The 'Auto Retry' of SIV is safe to use.

The author of SIV implemented this at first for himself.
SIV does not do some black magic (it does not 'hack' BOINC).
SIV calls boinccmd.exe with appropriate switches to control BOINC
(which is very standard/approved way to control BOINC)

It's not "some seriously strong medicine" as Snowmain thinks.
(Snowmain: "I haven't downloaded and installed SIV as thats some seriously strong medicine I probably shouldn't be playing with."
BilBg: "2) Use SIV (you have the link (Message 1272722)) - no install needed:"
)


@Snowmain:
Do you want instructions where (app_info.xml - in 2 'proper' places/lines) and how (Notepad) to add <flops>70e9</flops> ?
(value corrected according to:
"69.76e09 is what i got from my HD5770 when it was running MB."
Claggy
)

I wasn't interested in shutting down the work unit fetcher for my nvidia card.

I wonder why?

Claggy: "Snowmain has 5 days of Nvidia work, he can survive at least 3 days without asking for any Nvidia work, at which point he can re-enable Nvidia GPU work fetch."
tbret: "So, yes, telling BOINC you don't *want* anymore NVIDIA or CPU tasks really does improve your odds of getting ATI tasks in an almost accidental way."

BilBg: "'Use NVIDIA GPU' no
(this 'Use' means in fact: 'Get tasks for NVIDIA GPU' no
It will not stop your NVIDIA GPU from computing tasks you already have.)"

Claggy: "You don't understand, By deselecting 'Use Nvidia GPU' in your Setiathome Preferences doesn't stop Nvidia GPU computing"
Snowmain: "I understood the motivation behind this advise. I just don't think it will work."

1967) Questions and Answers : Windows : screen saver flickers (Message 1276122)
Posted 27 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Very probably some background program is interfering, something that uses/probes the video card.
It may be some Gadget or Hardware Monitoring program that shows GPU related things (e.g. MHz, used VRAM, Temperatures).
Or some media player.
Or some program that want (is set) to be 'On-Top' (so it try to be 'On-Top' the screensaver (and all screensavers also try to be 'On-Top' of everything so they 'fight'))


AMD ATI Radeon HD 5x00 series (Redwood) (1024MB) driver: 1.4.553

Or it may be that old driver you are using (1.4.553 == Catalyst 10.2 (2010.Feb))
http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet.htm

1968) Questions and Answers : Windows : why no work? (Message 1276120)
Posted 27 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If "It worked" then something self-fixed the problem (e.g. Restart of Windows or the Router)
ping can't fix it.

(e.g.
-- My computer do not start when I press the ON button, help!
-- Do you have electricity? Try to light your room lamp/lights.
-- The lamp switch do not work .... Oh wait it works now, the lamp now is OK and it fixed my computer, thanks ;)
)

1969) Questions and Answers : Windows : New GPU for the garage cruncher (Message 1276118)
Posted 27 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... you might want to consider not running the AstroPulse app on your '430 as it would be a bit hard on it

There is no NVIDIA OpenCL AstroPulse app in the current (0.40) Lunatics installer
(about it "would be a bit hard on it" I don't know (even if the app is added manually or by some future installer))


... and I'm not too sure about it running OpenCL

With current drivers it have to (GPU-Z can show it, GPU_Caps_Viewer can test it)

1970) Message boards : Number crunching : Not getting everything out of my setup. (Message 1275914)
Posted 26 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Well the nVidia technocrati wins again as an ATI cruncher is convinced it's not worth trying anymore.

Well played.

Nobody tried to convince him, he convinced himself!
(despite all advices - most of which he didn't follow)


... pulling his nVidia card (good one)

Who said that???
I'm sure no-one (except the confused owner - people say something different which he understand as 'throw the nVidia in the trash')


... run a background utility to keep retrying the servers for more work

NOT "for more work", but to (more often) retry the downloads you already have.


If Snowmain simply sticks <flops>80e9</flops> into the MB ATI portion of his app_info ...

Simply for you.
Do you really think he will do that?
And even if <flops>80e9</flops> will be used - it may make BOINC ask for more work but will not fix the long backoffs (which in turn stops BOINC to ask for more work)
(he complained that "The 10 ati unit have been trying to download all night")


The 80e9 value is a SWAG on my part

Probably is good enough (my AMD Radeon HD 6570 shows ~50e9 for MB ATI tasks)


Of course editing of the app_info file requires a full shutdown of the BOINC manager

If we have to be literally correct - BOINC manager do not know about the existence of app_info.xml

1971) Questions and Answers : Windows : Why does a CPU unit lock up forever on 'Choosing optimal functions' (Message 1275636)
Posted 26 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have been seeing this happening in Windows XP Home and Professional on various of my systems utilizing AMD processors but never on Intel ones.

(Please, try to type in paragraphs, I stopped reading after the first sentence, it's hard to follow 'raw' text)

Yes, it was reported by some users that some AMD CPUs sometimes hang at "Optimal function choice":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60229&postid=1001315#1001315
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64999&postid=1135171#1135171
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65200&postid=1144118#1144118


(it is hard to test/debug/fix something that happens only for some/sometimes)

And of course this code is not in BOINC but in standard SETI app so it's not strange that it "has been happening for quite a few releases of BOINC now".
(in the links is given possible solution/workaround - using optimized applications)

SETI@home v7 app is in works so it may fix this problem.

1972) Questions and Answers : Windows : BoincLogX issues (Message 1275629)
Posted 26 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Why "non-sense"?
It is simple - the program is old and not designed for Vista/7 (but it can work on them)

The program writes its BoincLogX.ini file and logs folder in its install directory! (as many old programs).

The solution - just NOT install in C:\Program Files\
(C:\Program Files\ is write-protected directory on Vista/7)

Make (manually) e.g.:
C:\Programs.XP

... and install old programs there.

1973) Questions and Answers : Windows : Cuda work units ending in error (Message 1275624)
Posted 26 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2574833931

Since sometimes tasks start/restart OK and only sometimes error:
Restarted at 7.08 percent. (OK)
Restarted at 8.33 percent. (OK)
Restarted at 9.21 percent. (SETI@home error -1 Can't create file -- disk full?)

- How much free space do you have on the HDD (on the partition where BOINC Data is, probably C:)?
- How much HDD space do you allow for BOINC use (look in Disk tab in BOINC Manager)?
- Do you see high HDD load (HDD LED/light is ON almost all the time)?

- Your Antivirus may be locking files for too long when it scans them (when a file is created/written it is usually scanned by the resident (On-Access) Antivirus module)
- Check Antivirus logs/Quarantine for any BOINC related files (some Antiviruses delete 'suspicious' files (they scramble and move the files to something called 'Quarantine'/'Vault'/'Chest' or similar))
- If you see that Antivirus is responsible for errors - try to exclude BOINC Data directory from active monitoring/scans.

- Did you try Reboot (Restart Windows)?

1974) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1275618)
Posted 26 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
That's odd. No mention of Mac OpenCL GPU support, and, actually, no mention that this only supports the ATI GPUs on Windows.

Ha!?

! First sentence in the first post:
"We've released the first of four new AstroPulse Windows applications for ATI/AMD Graphics Processing Units that support the OpenCL language"

1975) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU processing (Message 1275412)
Posted 25 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You mentioned "stock apps". I'd be willing to move to other configurations/apps if needed or maybe I'm missing something.

[Subscribe] to this thread:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=53611

Read the last post and follow the 2 links in it.

(for your ATI machines you will need
'Installer v0.40 32 bit' for your 'Microsoft Windows 7 Enterprise x86'
'Installer v0.40 64 bit' for your 'Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate x64'

Read the 'Installer v0.40 Readme'
)

Both of your ATI GPUs:
AMD ATI Radeon HD 4700/4800
AMD ATI Radeon HD 5x00 series (Cedar)

... have to be capable of computing if you have installed the OpenCL drivers.
(Radeon HD 4700/4800 will be faster than Radeon HD 5450 (Cedar))

1976) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1275387)
Posted 25 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
But when AP units are being created.
Will I get AP WUs just for Nvidia GPU only or will I get AP WUs for my CPUs like before along with my GPU AP WUs?

Yes, you will get AP WUs for CPU & for GPU

Provided you have:
Use CPU yes
Use NVIDIA GPU yes

AstroPulse v6: yes

... here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

1977) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1275386)
Posted 25 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I hoping to get the AMD GPU processing to work.
I keep get messages to upgrade my driver to the latest version, but when I check AMD's website it says I have the latest (8.801.2.3000)
The card is AMD Radeon 6450M.
Any suggestions?

RAB

Where do you "get messages to upgrade my driver to the latest version"?

Read this my post for suggestions/links:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69019&postid=1274352#1274352

(probably you don't have OpenCL driver installed (or it is too old?))

You use Cat 10.12 (= 2010.December), I can't believe "it says I (you) have the latest"

Is this the page you are using?:
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx

1978) Message boards : News : Bug in server affecting older BOINC clients with NVIDIA GPUs. (Message 1275383)
Posted 25 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
6.04 (opencl_nvidia_100)

You still do not have AstroPulse tasks allocated to the GPU, the app will be downloaded with the first AstroPulse task for the GPU:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=3691074&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=12

The first ones just downloaded. So apparently I have never been using the GPU for Astropulse? Only for 6.09 cuda WU's?

Yes, of course, the AstroPulse v6 6.04 (opencl_nvidia_100) / Windows app was just released.
(it was available in some 'beta' form only for people/testers using the optimized apps)


... in the next few days I will be getting in a GeForce 295GTX dual GPU 1.7GB memory card.
I would get something better but that is the top end card supported by my motherboard.

Why do you think so?
Don't expect that your motherboard docs (.pdf) will include all the video cards it can accept.
(it will list only those video cards available at the time the motherboard was manufactured)

You can use PCIe 2.0 video card in an PCIe 1.x motherboard.
(my PCIe 1.x motherboard is made 2006, my PCIe 2.0 video card in it is made 2011 (or 2012 ?))


Was I wrong in believing I had read that you could force BOINC through the resource share option to partition out the work in the percentage that you wanted?

BOINC is 'supposed' to respect resource share in a long term (weeks?).

1979) Message boards : News : Bug in server affecting older BOINC clients with NVIDIA GPUs. (Message 1275359)
Posted 25 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Fixed by unchecking.

This is not a real fix (to uncheck 'Use ATI GPU')

Your 'AMD ATI Radeon HD 4600 series' is listed as (hardware) supporting OpenCL:
http://developer.amd.com/sdks/AMDAPPSDK/pages/DriverCompatibility.aspx

Listed devices are:
ATI Radeonâ„¢ HD - 4600 Series (4670, 4650)

Which is your model?
Can you give GPU-Z screenshot? (click 'Photo-icon' in the top-right of GPU-Z, upload to ..., copy link)

Here is shown 'OpenCL version - OpenCL 1.0' (apparently valid for all 'Radeon R700' chips):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_R700

1980) Questions and Answers : Windows : why no work? (Message 1274359)
Posted 23 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Be careful to Not click [Reset] button at the bottom of the page:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/edit_forum_preferences_form.php

1981) Message boards : News : Bug in server affecting older BOINC clients with NVIDIA GPUs. (Message 1274352)
Posted 23 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
8/23/2012 7:02:58 AM | | App version needs OpenCL but GPU doesn't support it

Where did you get the drivers?
Use AMD/ATI drivers, Not Microsoft/Windows drivers.

As reference use this list (mind the red warning about XP, for XP get 11.12 or 12.1):
http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet.htm

(you now use on the 2 computers: 11.10 and 11.11 - both have "high CPU usage bug" even if you manage to enable (install) OpenCL on these Catalyst versions)

GPU-Z shows is OpenCL driver installed/enabled
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

***

Another possibility is you use Remote Desktop (which of course replaces video drivers with generic and stops GPU computing).
Use something like TeamViewer instead.

1982) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1274317)
Posted 23 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

First check that you have "AstroPulse v6: yes" here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

Then - don't expect AstroPulse tasks will be available every day (they are 30x less 'in stock' than "SETI@home Enhanced" tasks)

P.S.
What you quoted is not aimed at you:
* Do NOT 'Reset' the project - all (even finished) tasks will be deleted.
* No need to search for app_info.xml - this is non-standard file (do not exist in 'standard' circumstances)

1983) Message boards : News : Bug in server affecting older BOINC clients with NVIDIA GPUs. (Message 1274309)
Posted 23 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I find that the dates and times do not match the ones listed in the link.

Normal:
- Your time (file times) is not in UTC
- You finish their download later than server sends (assigns) them to you


But I do find the following 2 entries are not present in any kind of wording....
6.10 (cuda_fermi)

You have NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 which is not fermi, you have tasks marked "SETI@home Enhanced v6.09 (cuda23)" and "SETI@home Enhanced v6.08 (cuda)":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=3691074&offset=0&show_names=0&state=2&appid=

They are processed by:
setiathome_6.08_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe
setiathome_6.09_windows_intelx86__cuda23.exe

(and several .dll files)


6.04 (opencl_nvidia_100)

You still do not have AstroPulse tasks allocated to the GPU, the app will be downloaded with the first AstroPulse task for the GPU:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=3691074&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=12


And I guess I had some stuff not used anymore like astropulse 5.00, 5.03.

Since all the apps (.exe .dll .cl and other types of files) consume very little HDD space - better do not delete things you are not sure what they are (e.g. .DLLs)


And at least twice applications that seemed to have 2 slightly different versions such as

setiathome_6.03_windows_intelx86.exe
setigraphics_6.03_windows_intelx86.exe

Do not delete them - both are standard current apps (setigraphics used for "Show graphics" and screensaver)

1984) Message boards : News : Bug in server affecting older BOINC clients with NVIDIA GPUs. (Message 1274273)
Posted 23 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This explains the behaviour of my EEEBox starting to overheat. I shall await an update.

Len

Which "This"?
What "update"?

* If you talk about "Bug in server ..." it was already fixed (read the whole thread).
And all your CUDA tasks on "EEEBox" are from 2 Aug 2012 when this bug (17 Aug 2012) was not yet introduced.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6203689&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1&appid=2

And you use BOINC 7.0.28 which was never affected by this bug.


* If you talk about "(AstroPulse) NVIDIA version for BOINC v7+ is out"
- you don't have any GPU AstroPulse tasks on "EEEBox" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asus_EeeBox_PC)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6203689&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=12

1985) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI GPU help please (Message 1274256)
Posted 23 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This third party person (Raistmer, I believe) would have to write new code to support low workgroup GPUs.

But his tasks show "Max work group size: 256"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2571256428
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2570688972

I don't know what "WARNING: patching required max_kernel_wg_size=64" means.
I will try to PM Raistmer to direct him to this thread.


The only other place I found max_kernel_wg_size (in 1 year period) is:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68675&postid=1258896#1258896

1986) Message boards : Number crunching : Interesting difference on my hardware between operating systems. (Message 1274203)
Posted 23 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Given that the windows side is the only side that currently allows video card crunching you would think it would actually provide better overall statistics.

Thinking, thinking...


Thinking??
What "overall statistics"?

Benchmarks are done by boinc.exe
They are done only on the CPU
BOINC do not know how to compute on GPU (= no code in boinc.exe to do GPU Benchmarks)

And any external process (program) that is using the CPU at the time of Benchmarks affects the values.

E.g. start compressing some big file/folder (WinRAR, 7-Zip, ...) (since you have many CPU cores you may need to start several WinRAR, I'm not sure how many cores it uses for a single process),
[you may also just start WinRAR, press Alt+B (= WinRAR Benchmarks), select 'Multithreading']
[in 7-Zip it is Tools -> Benchmark, select 'Number of CPU threads:' to match your CPU]

Run the BOINC Benchmarks (from menu),
See the values.

1987) Message boards : Number crunching : Waiting for more tasks ... (Message 1274185)
Posted 23 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
But ... how else can you know that the processing is going on ?

You could open up Boinc manager & look, or just mouse over it's Icon. Or check out the Apple equivalent of Task Manager.
I haven't run the screen saver for over 10 years.

I have it set to run all the time - it doesn't have any impact on other programmes or system responsiveness so i know it's running all the time.

I'm sure you wanted to say:
"I have BOINC set to run computations all the time"

Not "I have the screen saver set to run all the time" as some may imply


@Howard Brittain
As already noted (several times):
- you can see % Progress increasing in BOINC Manager
- you can see high % CPU used in any Mac utility which show this (and which process is using the CPU)


Is there anything like Task Manager on Mac ("Activity Monitor"):
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090326134438AAeqK0A

Mac Activity Monitor:
http://www.devdaily.com/blog/post/mac-os-x/mac-os-x-activity-monitor

1988) Message boards : Number crunching : Waiting for more tasks ... (Message 1273888)
Posted 22 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
But BOINC has 12+ tasks in the Seti project. Two of which are mid processing. Why doesn't the screensaver kick in ?


As was mentioned earlier in the thread, you only get the screensaver for MultiBeam tasks not for Astropulse tasks.

I'm not sure about this.

Here are all the apps (if you see 'Forbidden' hit F5):
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/

http://208.68.240.13/sah/download_fanout/
http://208.68.240.18/sah/download_fanout/


Ctrl+F for graph finds these apps for Mac:
	ap_graphics_6.02_i686-apple-darwin	04-Apr-2012 15:02 	2.0M	 
	ap_graphics_6.02_powerpc-apple-darwin	10-Apr-2012 10:02 	2.6M	 

	setigraphics_6.03_i686-apple-darwin	21-Aug-2008 15:10 	352K	 
	setigraphics_6.03_powerpc-apple-darwin	21-Aug-2008 15:10 	1.1M	 
	setigraphics_6.04_powerpc-apple-darwin	07-Sep-2011 11:44 	414K	 
	setigraphics_6.05_i686-apple-darwin	14-Sep-2011 11:10 	372K	 
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1989) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (76) Server Problems? (Message 1273886)
Posted 22 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

He already have the app, one of his tasks:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2566706424

AstroPulse v.6
Non-graphics FFTW USE_CONVERSION_OPT
Windows x86 rev 1316, V6 match, by Raistmer with support of Lunatics.kwsn.net team. SSE2


Obviously he manually added it.

1990) Message boards : Number crunching : Waiting for more tasks ... (Message 1273845)
Posted 22 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Please restart BOINC and post the first 30-40 lines from the Event Log

1991) Message boards : Number crunching : Not getting everything out of my setup. (Message 1273682)
Posted 21 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The 10 ati unit have been trying to download all night ......

1) Then read again Message 1272810:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69039&postid=1272810#1272810

... and start using SIV (see the screenshot)
(SIV 'Auto Retry' stuck downloads in periods of 3-15 minutes, BOINC own mechanism may delay retries for hours)

SIV - System Information Viewer:
http://rh-software.com/


2) As already noted - go here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

and select:
'Use NVIDIA GPU' no

(this 'Use' means in fact: 'Get tasks for NVIDIA GPU' no
It will not stop your NVIDIA GPU from computing tasks you already have.

This preference do not exist locally in BOINC - this answers your question:
"Online preferences? Didn't we disable those with the config file?"

"What do I need to add to the file to shutoff the nvidia card?"
Nobody said you need "to shutoff the nvidia card", only to temporarily disable the work fetch for it.
)

You may leave it this way for a few days (as you have already tasks for NVIDIA in the computer sufficient for a few days computing)

***

Why you need this 'things'?
A) Because BOINC still thinks: this NVIDIA is the fastest computing unit here so I will get tasks first for it and only after NVIDIA have 5 days WU cache I will ask for this 'slow' ATI
B) Because BOINC will not ask for any new tasks if you have stuck downloads (in retry/backoff)

So you may need forever "1) use SIV" (to often retry stuck downloads, it is the same as if you stay there and click [Retry])
And you may need to do "2) 'Use NVIDIA GPU' no" several times in the next 1-2 weeks until BOINC learns that your ATI is fast

1992) Message boards : Number crunching : Not getting everything out of my setup. (Message 1273344)
Posted 20 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I forgot that 'my ATI' is not shown properly by 'my BOINC' ;)
(AMD ATI unknown (1024MB) driver: 1.4.1646 == Cat 11.12 XP32)

It is AMD Radeon HD 6570


Do you have flops included in your appinfo BilBg ?

No
And the part for r390 is almost standard (the only change (for less lag): -period_iterations_num 80):
    <app>
        <name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>MB6_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r390.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r390.cl</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>610</version_num>
        <avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.05</max_ncpus>
        <plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
        <cmdline>-period_iterations_num 80 -instances_per_device 1</cmdline>
        <coproc>
            <type>ATI</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>MB6_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r390.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>                           
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r390.cl</file_name>
            <copy_file/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>

1993) Message boards : Number crunching : Not getting everything out of my setup. (Message 1273230)
Posted 20 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Any idea how long I should wait?

For correct estimates (time remaining) of ATI tasks:
Until you see on this page:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=6738595

... at least 10 'Number of tasks completed' for these:
SETI@home Enhanced (anonymous platform, ATI GPU)
AstroPulse v6 (anonymous platform, ATI GPU)

Note:
What you think you 'completed' is not the same what server shows as 'Number of tasks completed'
(those 'tasks completed' have to meet certain criteria)


no new ati wu have downloaded or are scheduled to attempt to download.

Does BOINC ask for ATI work? (look in Event Log)


I actually think ATI MB outier detection is Broken with the ATI r390 MB app, same as Fred J. Verster's ATI host in this thread:

Is it hosts or work erring out?

So all the ATI MB work will remain unscaled until it's fixed, Eric's just fixed a similar problem over at Seti Beta, and does know that similar problems are occuring here.

Claggy


For my ATI it works OK:
SETI@home Enhanced (anonymous platform, ATI GPU)
Number of tasks completed 1588
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=4832843

1994) Message boards : Number crunching : Not getting everything out of my setup. (Message 1273229)
Posted 20 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Average turnaround time 3.77 days (thats not true at all)

Do you know what 'Average turnaround time' is?


Number of tasks completed 0 (?! I watched it finish 30 units or so and uploaded them)
.........
...according to this I haven't completed any, which explains why I am not getting more work.
Why does it show me not completing any work?

Are you really surprised??
This was already explained ("'tasks completed' have to meet certain criteria" & "outlier detection"):
1) Task have to validate (BOINC have to upload and report the task, then your task will/may wait (seconds or months) for another person's same task's result - the 2 results have to be 'similar enough' to validate)
2) Task have to be not 'outlier'
('outlier': >10% blanking; result overflow (>30 'signals', also called 'early exit'))

Note: validated 'outliers' give credit; But they do not count in 'Number of tasks completed'


Max tasks per day 463 (I don't think this computer has even downloaded 100wu since it was built)(Are these stats for my account as apposed to this machine?)

This is for this particular machine+app.
It means you are allowed to get this many tasks of this type per day,
not that your BOINC will actually ask for so many nor it ensures tasks will be available at the moment it asks.


Number of tasks today 27 (also not true its been 1 set of 10)

Then you maybe have 'ghost' tasks (which will be resent to you later)


"Note: What you think you 'completed' is not the same what server shows as 'Number of tasks completed'
(those 'tasks completed' have to meet certain criteria)"

And whatever that criteria is I apparently am not meeting it.

Not you, that depend entirely by the tasks themselves (e.g. >10% blanking or too many signals).

1995) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU use questions (Message 1273222)
Posted 20 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you want to read some (long) discussions about build/upgrade (to decide your own "detail list of the parts"):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68799
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68906
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68511
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67605

1996) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI CUDA, 304.79 beta drivers from nVidia, and Keppler based gfx == no go (Message 1272843)
Posted 19 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

A known problem, read here for answers:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68588

1997) Message boards : Number crunching : Not getting everything out of my setup. (Message 1272815)
Posted 19 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Any idea how long I should wait?

For correct estimates (time remaining) of ATI tasks:
Until you see on this page:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=6738595

... at least 10 'Number of tasks completed' for these:
SETI@home Enhanced (anonymous platform, ATI GPU)
AstroPulse v6 (anonymous platform, ATI GPU)

Note:
What you think you 'completed' is not the same what server shows as 'Number of tasks completed'
(those 'tasks completed' have to meet certain criteria)


no new ati wu have downloaded or are scheduled to attempt to download.

Does BOINC ask for ATI work? (look in Event Log)

1998) Message boards : Number crunching : Not getting everything out of my setup. (Message 1272810)
Posted 19 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Since the addition of the config file i have noticed my system downloads 4 files at a time instead of the 2 it used to.

Yes, this is the reason:
<max_file_xfers_per_project>4</max_file_xfers_per_project>


#2 How do I get Boinc to actually use the Ati card aswell as the Nvidia gts?

Give BOINC some time, it still does not know how fast your ATI is (so asks for less work for it).
With time BOINC will learn how much work per day your ATI can do and will increase the number of tasks for it.


#3 How do I keep my que full of work so that when we experience these pesky outages every thing keeps working.

You already know the answer:

1) Maintain enough tasks to keep busy for at least 5-10 days
... and up to an additional 0.10 days

2) Use SIV (you have the link (Message 1272722)) - no install needed:
Get siv.zip
Extract it
Start SIV (use SIV64X.exe for Windows 7 Professional x64)
Right-click [Windows] button (or use the arrow in it) -> BOINC Status
Check 'Auto Retry'

(you can now minimize the 'BOINC Status' window, do not exit it for 'Auto Retry' to work)





1999) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc Q or SETI Q or Lunatics Q ?? (Message 1272806)
Posted 19 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Oh Good Grief!! what a klutz!!

Of course I'm only running 1 WU on the 9500! I said WU and not WU's BUT I mis-typed 2 in stead 0f 1 :-)

I'll look at "eFMer Priority". so ... it seems there is no XML or whatever to direct the use of higher priority on CUDA WU's ... at least that's what I seem to be hearing ... yes??

Ed F

You are in USA, I'm in Bulgaria (not native English speaker) - but IMHO it have to be WUs and not WU's

There is no XML to set the priority of CUDA app because:
- BOINC starts the app with parameter (interpreted by OS) to run it at 'Low Priority' (or at 'Normal' if you use <no_priority_change>1</no_priority_change>)
- After 'Multibeam x41g' app is started it sets its Priority to 'Below Normal' (and BOINC do not know about this change in Priority, BOINC do not monitor the Priority after the app is started)
('Below Normal' was selected to avoid lag)

So you have to use some external Priority tool (that monitors the Priority of already running processes)

2000) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1272801)
Posted 19 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It looks like ATI stock openCL apps don't work for me.. sorry!

What are exactly your complains (1. 2. 3. ...)?

You have 'Completed and validated' AstroPulse v6 v6.04 (opencl_ati_100)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2567262936

And you have some 'Completed, waiting for validation'
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5867419&offset=0&show_names=0&state=2&appid=12

2001) Message boards : News : Bug in server affecting older BOINC clients with NVIDIA GPUs. (Message 1272797)
Posted 19 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So, if I understand this correctly, these WUs are sitting in my caches ...

Do you have <type>NVIDIA</type> in client_state.xml

2002) Message boards : News : Bug in server affecting older BOINC clients with NVIDIA GPUs. (Message 1272795)
Posted 19 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

This thread is not about 'VLARs on NVIDIA GPUs'
It's about different problem: running many (e.g. 10-40) tasks (of any AR, not only VLAR) on single NVIDIA GPU

(I'm not sure if this problem affects 'Anonymous platform' hosts)

2003) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1272477)
Posted 18 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

That C and G look similar is a fault of the Roman Empire (they invented Latin alphabet)

But Open Computing Language (OpenCL) and OpenGL (Open Graphics Library) are different things:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCL
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL

2004) Message boards : News : Bug in server affecting older BOINC clients with NVIDIA GPUs. (Message 1272460)
Posted 18 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
what bug in nvidia is it exactly ?

There are bugs in nVidia drivers (as in any other software) but this thread is not about any of them.

The bug was in the server part of BOINC (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)
(Not connected/induced by anything that you as user do or not do on your machine (except your chosen BOINC version).
The problem: the new BOINC server code (that runs in the SETI lab at Berkeley) 'forgot' that it have to connect also to older (before v7) BOINC versions on the user machines.

The new BOINC server code reported <type>NVIDIA</type> but the older BOINC versions on the user machines understand only <type>CUDA</type>
Now BOINC server code is fixed to report <type>NVIDIA</type> if you use BOINC 7.0 (or later) and <type>CUDA</type> if you use BOINC < v7 (e.g. 6.10.x)
)

2005) Message boards : News : Bug in server affecting older BOINC clients with NVIDIA GPUs. (Message 1272457)
Posted 18 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... cc.config.xml that forces BOINC to use my single GTX 550 Ti ...

You don't need cc_config.xml to use GTX 550 Ti for BOINC purposes, you need CUDA driver.

So, never let Windows to install/update video card drivers! (they lack many features)
Get the driver from the video card manufacturer or the GPU manufacturer (in your case NVIDIA)

Check with GPU-Z to see if CUDA and OpenCL are installed.

2006) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc Q or SETI Q or Lunatics Q ?? (Message 1272443)
Posted 18 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

As you can see in your tasks:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2565771894

... the 'problem' is that 'Multibeam x41g' sets the Priority by itself (to 'Below Normal' so overrides the BOINC setting <no_priority_change>1</no_priority_change>):
SETI@home using CUDA accelerated device GeForce GTX 550 Ti
Priority of process raised successfully
Priority of worker thread raised successfully

To set the Priority by yourself use Process Lasso or eFMer Priority
http://bitsum.com/prolasso.php/
http://www.efmer.eu/boinc/download.html

2007) Message boards : Number crunching : Not getting everything out of my setup. (Message 1272434)
Posted 18 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Currently I have about 40 cuda units, 50 cpu units and 5 ati units.

Are the '5 ati units' only AstroPulse?
Or are some SETI@home Enhanced?

I think you forgot to select ATI SETI@home Enhanced (MultiBeam (ATI)) during the install of Lunatics apps:




We can check if you post the contents of this file (open it with Notepad):
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\app_info.xml

Or check by yourself for this part:
    <app>
        <name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>MB6_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r390.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r390.cl</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>610</version_num>
        <platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
        <avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.05</max_ncpus>
        <plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
        <cmdline>-period_iterations_num 20 -instances_per_device 1</cmdline>
        <coproc>
            <type>ATI</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>MB6_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r390.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>                           
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r390.cl</file_name>
            <copy_file/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>610</version_num>
        <platform>windows_x86_64</platform>
        <avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.05</max_ncpus>
        <plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
        <cmdline>-period_iterations_num 20 -instances_per_device 1</cmdline>
        <coproc>
            <type>ATI</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>MB6_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r390.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>                           
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r390.cl</file_name>
            <copy_file/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
2008) Message boards : News : Bug in server affecting older BOINC clients with NVIDIA GPUs. (Message 1272427)
Posted 18 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

translate.google:
我明白了 == I understand

2009) Message boards : Number crunching : something weird ? (Message 1272399)
Posted 18 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You can see what apps are distributed here:
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/

http://208.68.240.13/sah/download_fanout/
http://208.68.240.18/sah/download_fanout/

(this link usually loads slow as this is the same place the task files (WUs) come from, you may need to press F5 to make it load the file list)

Look for files beginning with:
ap_graphics_6

For Linux I see:
ap_graphics_6.01_i686-pc-linux-gnu	13-Mar-2012 13:54 	953K	 
ap_graphics_6.01_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu	13-Mar-2012 13:54 	1.8M	 
ap_graphics_6.02_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu	02-Apr-2012 10:18 	1.0M	 
ap_graphics_6.03_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu	04-Apr-2012 15:02 	1.0M	 


Can you find any of these files in your seti directory (under BOINC Data directory)?
(I don't know the exact name for 'seti directory' on Linux)

2010) Message boards : News : Bug in server affecting older BOINC clients with NVIDIA GPUs. (Message 1272377)
Posted 18 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If you use BOINC version 6, you are probably affected.

The fix we installed will not fix workunits that have already been downloaded.

For that, you've got four options.
1) Abort all your CUDA tasks.
2) Upgrade to BOINC v7 or
3) Exit BOINC, edit your client_state.xml to replace all the occurrences of "<type>NVIDIA</type>" with "<type>CUDA</type>" or
4) Just let it run and deal with a few reboots.

I like the option '3)' most (the 'Replace All' is easy using just Notepad)

I can think of another 'fix' (for those uncomfortable with any of 1) ... 4) above) but it involves 'hand' work:
- Temporarily Disable getting NVIDIA/CUDA tasks ('Use NVIDIA GPU' here: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project)
- Suspend all your current CUDA tasks (sort by Application column, click ... Shift+click to select all CUDA tasks)
- Resume them one at a time (or 2, 3 at a time if your GPU is good enough (Fermi++))
- When all 'old' CUDA tasks are done - Enable again getting NVIDIA/CUDA tasks ('Use NVIDIA GPU' yes)

2011) Questions and Answers : Getting started : can't edit my profile (Message 1271914)
Posted 17 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... an average credit of 1.0 or greater is required to create or edit a profile. We apologize for this inconvenience.


Read "average credit" as 'Recent average credit' (RAC)

You now have 'Recent average credit 0.09':
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=8106982

The only way to make it >1 is to run some SETI tasks (and wait until they are validated (= credit granted))

2012) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Transient HTTP Error (Message 1271911)
Posted 17 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Try to use Proxy server:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64691

or Hotspot Shield:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64691&postid=1140754#1140754

2013) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc Rescheduler - remedy for .vlar scheduling problem? (Message 1270802)
Posted 12 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What kind of regular expression would you need to write and where to find & replace the entire block? The problem is that if you find say vlar, only the keyword is highlighted and not the entire <result> block.

Link's original suggestion for using Notepad++ and a regular expression is at message 1269229. Note the point about using a plugin.

We tweaked the expression a bit after that, so here's the one I'm using at the moment. It includes the <suspended_via_gui/> test. I'll post it with the lines split as they are in client_state for legibility, but to use it you'll have to join it back into one huge long single line.

Note that I'm using this on a 32-bit OS and BOINC version - 64-bit users may need to change the <platform> tag. Look at your own <result> blocks and adjust accordingly - but you'll find that all results on any given machine are consistent, so you only have to tweak it once.

<result>\r\n
\s*<name>.{20,35}vlar_.</name>\r\n
\s*<final_cpu_time>0.000000</final_cpu_time>\r\n
\s*<final_elapsed_time>0.000000</final_elapsed_time>\r\n
\s*<exit_status>0</exit_status>\r\n
\s*<state>2</state>\r\n
\s*<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>\r\n
\s*<version_num>610</version_num>\r\n
\s*<plan_class>cuda_fermi</plan_class>\r\n
\s*<suspended_via_gui/>\r\n
\s*<wu_name>.{20,35}</wu_name>\r\n
\s*<report.{30,40}deadline>\r\n
\s*<received.{30,40}time>\r\n
\s*<file_ref>\r\n
\s*<file.{40,60}name>\r\n
\s*<open.{15,30}name>\r\n
\s*</file_ref>\r\n
</result>\r\n


Reading the manual I think this can be abreviated (but I did't tested it):

- check the box which says ". matches newline"

<result>.*?
<name>.{20,35}vlar_.</name>.*?
<version_num>610</version_num>.*?
</result>\r\n


In one line:

<result>.*?<name>.{20,35}vlar_.</name>.*?<version_num>610</version_num>.*?</result>\r\n


(610 may be 608 or 609 - if you can generalize the regex to include and match all 3 variants will be better)


The danger is that it may span/skip/mark/delete (I can't find the proper word ;) ) several <result> blocks, I'm not sure ...

Maybe this can be used to not affect (wrongly) several <result> blocks (I'm not sure about the syntax .*?(?<<result>), we need something that says skip all simbols except string "<result>"):
(?<pattern)

<result>.*?
(?<<result>)
<name>.{20,35}vlar_.</name>.*?
(?<<result>)
<version_num>610</version_num>.*?
(?<<result>)
</result>\r\n


I did several Edits to this post so maybe read it again ...

2014) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1270763)
Posted 12 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The difference in run time is mainly caused by 'percent blanked' (which is done by CPU code so more CPU load and less GPU load) and sometimes by early exit (too many 'signals' found)

percent blanked: 89.55 - Run time 10,660.30 - CPU time 7,464.88
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2560112163

percent blanked: 0.00 - Run time 4,804.93 - CPU time 1,037.97
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2561528287

2015) Message boards : Number crunching : Win 7 and XP (Message 1270729)
Posted 12 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

By 'BCD' do you mean the command-line tool (BCDEdit)?

It's much easier to use any of these GUI tools:

EasyBCD
http://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/

DualBootPRO (formerly 'VistaBootPRO')
http://www.dualbootpro.org/


(Both edit the standard options (database) of the Windows 7/Vista boot manager.
They do not add new boot manager.

Windows 7/Vista boot manager executable file is 'bootmgr' or 'Grldr' (hidden files in C:\)
Windows XP boot manager executable file is 'ntldr'

Using the above tools you create entry for XP (which have to point to the partition where 'ntldr' and 'boot.ini' files are (probably also C:\))

(e.g. install and run EasyBCD in Windows 7 or in Windows XP, IIRC one of this programs have also option to repair the boot sector)

After that you will have this boot order:
BIOS - MBR - Boot sector of the Active partition - GRLDR - NTLDR
... so you'll see probably 2 boot menus one after another

(I have Windows 98, XP, Vista on one HDD so I see 2 boot menus if I choose to boot XP)
)

2016) Questions and Answers : Web site : Abandoned Workunit (Message 1270690)
Posted 12 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thank you for the explanation of "abandoned." Of note, however, is that the original deadline for this task was Aug. 31, so missing a deadline should not have been an issue.

One side issue is that I received a BOINC message prior to this issue stating in part "8/11/2012 2:16:00 PM|SETI@home|Generated new computer cross-project ID:" (and then giving the new ID). This ID is different than the one still on my account page. Would this affect anything regarding credits and completed work?

The CPID is not a secret, you can post it. It is visible e.g. in these links:
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/host/detail/2a187557a9641a6211f6811e977fccd8
http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=hostbycpid&cpid=2a187557a9641a6211f6811e977fccd8

(but the 'account key'/<authenticator> is secret)

New CPID will not influence credits (old credits remain, new credits will be granted as usual)


Is this the task?
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2527116689

Name 09jl12ac.32457.18472.7.10.234.vlar_1

Sent 16 Jul 2012 | 17:58:12 UTC
Received 11 Aug 2012 | 21:15:57 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Abandoned
Client state New
Exit status 0 (0x0)
Computer ID 6725012
Report deadline 1 Sep 2012 | 6:04:52 UTC


AFAIK 'Abandoned' is shown usually if you Detach from the project.
('Timed out - no response' is shown for missing a deadline: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1017149380)

But in that case (Detach) the task had to be deleted from your computer.
You say it is still runnung (which is strange).
The 'Received' + 'Abandoned' above seems to indicate the server thinks your computer was Detached from the project.
(the server 'Received' a command (report/message) from your computer/BOINC to 'Abandon' the task)

('Attach/Detach project' are commands in BOINC 6.6.38 used on your Pentium II/Windows 98 computer, in BOINC 7.0.28 the same is done by 'Add/Remove project')

2017) Questions and Answers : Web site : SETI server backing off downloads problem (Message 1270678)
Posted 12 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Maybe we could convince him to make the max_file_xfers config setting apply per-server and not globally? or is it already...?

Mine is set to:
<max_file_xfers>20</max_file_xfers>
<max_file_xfers_per_project>10</max_file_xfers_per_project>

... so not everybody wants "one at a time", most people will be angry if some new BOINC version decides to limit them to "one at a time"

2018) Questions and Answers : Windows : Can't Seem to Get Started (Message 1269925)
Posted 10 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

?? As I can't make any sense from this post - did you try to ask yourself?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=9262315

2019) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU Load (Message 1269921)
Posted 10 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

So if I understand your example correctly:
The # of CPUs is used only when the % value is set to 0%
In all other cases (1% ... 100%) the '% of the processors' value is used (ignoring the preference '# of CPUs')?

2020) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU Load (Message 1269331)
Posted 9 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... and changed # of processors from 4 to 2 in preferences.
In BOINC Manager, Tasks tab shows 4 processes (cpu) running

That's not the way to do it ("On multiprocessors, use at most XX processors" is used only by very old BOINC versions)

Use:
On multiprocessors, use at most ZZ% of the processors

You may first try to free 1 core to see is this enough:
On multiprocessors, use at most 99% of the processors

(99% will free 1 core on any CPU with up to 100 cores. On your CPU anything 75% ... 99% will free 1 core)

To free 2 cores (on AMD Phenom II X4)
On multiprocessors, use at most 50% of the processors

(On your CPU anything 50% ... 74% will free 2 cores)

P.S.
'cores' is not the exact term but it suits your case.
(More proper is # of Logical/Virtual CPUs as seen by OS/BOINC)

2021) Questions and Answers : Web site : Certificate problem (Message 1268585)
Posted 7 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
And fixed already, with thanks to David for that.

It's not fully fixed - [View diploma certificate] is working
but not [View photo certificate] nor [View modern certificate]

[View photo certificate] gives "Remote server or file not found":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/cert3.php?show_boinc=on&photo=01

[View modern certificate] shows PHP code:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/cert2.php?show_boinc=on

(photo & modern certificates are the ones that can be saved locally by saving the image, diploma have to be saved by PrintScreen)

2022) Questions and Answers : Windows : "Won't get new tasks" (Message 1268207)
Posted 6 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Click [Allow new tasks]

2023) Questions and Answers : Web site : Certificate problem (Message 1268201)
Posted 6 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Already reported:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68413&postid=1267808#1267808

2024) Questions and Answers : Getting started : New and need help! (Message 1267850)
Posted 5 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You found a newly introduced bug, this page was working a few months ago:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/cert_print.php

I tested on Win 98 + Opera 10.10

I don't see any "garbled characters", I see some (PHP?) code.
Appears to be PHP - it ends with ?> but misses <?php in the beginning:
http://www.w3schools.com/php/php_syntax.asp

Some part of the code was deleted by mistake?:

Show SETI@home/BOINC credit
Show SETI@home Classic credit "; } function sah_credit_string($user, $bolden) { $show_boinc = $_GET["show_boinc"]; $show_classic = $_GET["show_classic"]; $cobbs = number_format($user->total_credit, 0); credit_to_ops($user->total_credit, $ops, $unit); if ($bolden) { $lbold="[["; $rbold="]]"; } else { $lbold=""; $rbold=""; }
.........
$firstWordOfLine = $lastWordOfLine; $actualWidth = 0; $wordSize = 0; $initLineFont = $currentFont; // save current font } } ?>



Looking at the page source it looks like this:
<? 

function show_credit_checkboxes() {
    echo "
        <br>
        <input type=checkbox name=show_boinc checked> Show SETI@home/BOINC credit
        <br>
        <input type=checkbox name=show_classic> Show SETI@home Classic credit
    ";
}

function sah_credit_string($user, $bolden) {
    $show_boinc = $_GET["show_boinc"];
    $show_classic = $_GET["show_classic"];

    $cobbs = number_format($user->total_credit, 0);

    credit_to_ops($user->total_credit, $ops, $unit);

    if ($bolden) {
        $lbold="[[";
        $rbold="]]";
    } else {
        $lbold="";
        $rbold="";
    }
..........

2025) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Little GPU help please (Message 1267778)
Posted 5 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You may want to read this:
New AstroPulse for GPU ( ATi & NV) released (r1316):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68675

My observations posted in the same thread:
"On ATI AMD Radeon HD 6570 / Catalyst 11.12 / Win XP
r1316 is 1.3x times faster than r555 and uses less CPU and more GPU %":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68675&postid=1258692


P.S.
0) Lunatics Windows Installer v0.40 release notes:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67407

1) All the files in the Lunatics' Installer (Lunatics_Win64_v0.40_setup.exe) can be extracted by 7-Zip
(if you want to do things manually, e.g. to use ap_6.01r557_SSE2_331_AVX.exe instead of AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r555.exe)
(if you run the Lunatics' Installer again it will create new app_info.xml (erasing your edits) so make copy of it)

2) Subscribe to 'Optimized Applications and Other Binaries' to know about updates:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=53611

3) This is my app_info.xml if you want to compare with yours:
(You will have more ('duplicate') sections for <platform>windows_x86_64</platform>
I use -unroll 3 because I have 'Max compute units: 6'
You have 'Max compute units: 24' so you may try -unroll 12 (this probably will compute APs faster but may increase lag and/or lead to errors (invalids))
)

<app_info> 

    <app>
        <name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>AK_v8b2_win_SSE3_AMD.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>603</version_num>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>AK_v8b2_win_SSE3_AMD.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>

    <app>
        <name>astropulse_v6</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r1316.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>astropulse_v6</app_name>
        <version_num>601</version_num>
        <avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>
        <plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
        <cmdline>-unroll 3</cmdline>
        <coproc>
            <type>ATI</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r1316.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>                           
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>

    <app>
        <name>astropulse_v6</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>ap_6.01r557_SSE2_331_AVX.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>astropulse_v6</app_name>
        <version_num>601</version_num>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>ap_6.01r557_SSE2_331_AVX.exe</file_name>
	    <main_program/>
	</file_ref>
    </app_version>

    <app>
        <name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>MB6_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r390.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r390.cl</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>610</version_num>
        <avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.05</max_ncpus>
        <plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
        <cmdline>-period_iterations_num 80 -instances_per_device 1</cmdline>
        <coproc>
            <type>ATI</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>MB6_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r390.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>                           
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r390.cl</file_name>
            <copy_file/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>

</app_info> 

2026) Message boards : Number crunching : New AstroPulse for GPU ( ATi & NV) released (r1316) (Message 1266822)
Posted 2 Aug 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
AstroPulse WU's are running fine again. :)

OK, you are happy now.
Will you help others be happy too? :)

Your problem will affect all other SETI users which run stock/standard AstroPulse app
which also run the same antivirus (TrendMicro ?).

So if you are paid customer of TrendMicro - make report to them asking to check the issue with that file, e.g.:

"
I think I found a false-positive given by TrendMicro
Will you check this file to confirm it is virus free or not:
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/ap_graphics_6.01_windows_intelx86.exe

Reports are clean:
https://www.virustotal.com/file/6be058f0ac2997fba8d37445d268b3efccd54a64f9b2b35fe4478e6300a39d41/analysis/1341799812/

http://r.virscan.org/report/364572dc4292f30b165afe592eb2a626.html

http://virusscan.jotti.org/en/scanresult/f8165a9bc2bcc55cde281bc4089a2af4d6cc348f

"

P.S.
1) Since I'm not a customer of TrendMicro they will not pay attention if I make this report.

2) I'm not sure (as you didn't say clearly) was the file blocked when you get it manually by the browser?

2027) Message boards : Number crunching : Results do not upload (Message 1266121)
Posted 31 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

'transient HTTP error':
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68305

2028) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lost my project just an error. (Message 1266097)
Posted 31 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If I can't get it I should get credit for I completed.

No one of us gets credit for 'Computation error' ('Error while computing') tasks nor for 'Invalid tasks', e.g. see these computers:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5292089&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5925627&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=


To avoid frustration with long running but crashed tasks (which never give any credit) the simple thing for you is to deselect AstroPulse in your SETI@home preferences (the link in my previous post)

(The same AstroPulse task that computes for a days on your CPU using the standard/stock application takes only a few hours on an ATI GPU using the Optimized Applications.
I don't know how long it will take on your GPU: AMD Radeon HD 6200/6300/7300 series (Wrestler) (384MB)
Your GPU is integrated in the CPU: AMD E-300 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
All integrated (in the CPU or in the Chipset) GPUs are usually less powerful than the discrete (in the video card) GPUs
)


It seems that you only complain about credit and don't say anything about why the error happened.
Did you read what the causes may be (e.g. do you use the BOINC screensaver)?
What triggered this particular crash?
(if you can remember what was happening on the computer (e.g. high HDD load) around the time of the crash.
Or is it your DNS Server do not respond? (read the thread in my previous post)
)

2029) Questions and Answers : Windows : No new tasks for cpu (Message 1266095)
Posted 31 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Not seen this message before:

7/30/2012 8:12:07 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 20 new tasks
7/30/2012 8:12:07 PM | SETI@home | Resent lost task 29au10ad.6614.242398.3.10.92.vlar_1
.......


Check in the files (find: Resent lost task): stdoutdae.txt and stdoutdae.old

You very probably will find many such messages.

Something on the subject:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68846


Your 'In progress tasks for computer 5709033' (there are CPU tasks):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5709033&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1&appid=


In preferences "maintain enough work for 5 days and an additional 2 days
7/30/2012 5:40:05 PM | | Reading preferences override file

- means you have to check the local (in BOINC Manager) preferences (as you use them already and they are in effect).

2030) Questions and Answers : Windows : Trouble with BOINC (Message 1266082)
Posted 31 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Why do some programs I install update themselves automatically and seem to stay uncorrupted while others do not?

Not every install uses MSI, this error is only connected with MSI
The previous post (by John McLeod VII) explains a case how it may happen (maybe if you select [Run] instead of [Save] in the browser during download of the installer?)

From an old file I have (Windows Installer CleanUp Utility: msicuu2.exe):

README FOR WINDOWS INSTALLER CLEAN UP UTILITY version 3
SEPTEMBER, 2006

WHAT IS THE WINDOWS INSTALLER CLEAN UP UTILITY?
The Windows Installer Clean Up Utility is a tool that can be used to remove Windows Installer configuration management information if a problem occurs.

*** NOTE: The Windows Installer Clean Up Utility should not be used to remove the 2007 Microsoft Office System installation information. ***

The Windows Installer configuration management information can become damaged if any of the following issues occur:

- The computer's registry becomes corrupted.

- A registry setting that is used by the Windows Installer is
inadvertently changed, and this change results in a problem.

- The installation of a program that uses Windows Installer (for
example, Microsoft Office 2003) is interrupted.

- There are multiple instances of a setup program running at the same time, or
an instance of a setup program is "blocked."


Under tasks it shows STATUS: SUSPENDED COMPUTER IS IN USE. I was not using my PC for almost 20 hours, so the program should have finished transferring the task, and started computing, right?

You can check if it 'have finished transferring' in the Transfers tab.
Do you see the process boinctray.exe in Windows Task Manager?

2031) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lost my project just an error. (Message 1266070)
Posted 31 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

It's not clear what you want:

- if you want to get credit for 'Computation error' task (it is not a project, it is a task) - this is not possible
- if you want to continue the same task - this is not possible (the task is not anymore in your computer, it is already reported as 'Computation error' and deleted from your computer)
- if you want to get the same task from the project servers - this is not possible (some other 'random' computer will do it)

The 'Task 2517918385' shows:
Exit status -202 (0xffffffffffffff36) ERR_SHMEM_NAME
- exit code -202 (0xffffff36)"
but I don't know what caused this
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2517918385

Probably 'No heartbeat from core client for 30 sec - exiting' caused by 'heavy' computer load (e.g. antivirus scan, game), high HDD load (e.g. big install) or hang DNS lookup:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=7736

It (the crash/error) is sometimes also caused by using the BOINC screensaver

***

If you want to not get anymore these long running tasks - go to:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

... and select SETI@home yes, AstroPulse no and 'If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications?' no

2032) Message boards : Number crunching : Agravating Non S@H Problem!!! (Message 1266053)
Posted 31 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... Now, OK, I could hypothetically copy the first link, then close my browser and uninstall + paste the link... however:
Follow step 1 to step 3 for the following:
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Macromed\Flash
%appdata%\Adobe\Flash Player
%appdata%\Macromedia\Flash Player

Nuhuh, not gonna work. How do I copy & paste multiple links without a browser?

(Yes, copy and paste the whole article in Notepad, I know that. But THAT advice is nowhere given. ;-) Not too well written advice for the not-so-computer-savvy.)

For 'the not-so-computer-savvy' I will never advice to go to and delete things in %appdata% in the first place ;)
(the one have to be very stupid to "Exit all browsers" before opening the listed folders)

I don't think the article is written for the absolute beginners.
But Adobe maybe had to include the above delete operations in the uninstall_flash_player.exe

(The 'Follow step 1 to step 3 ...' have to be 'Follow step a. to step c. ...')

2033) Message boards : Number crunching : New AstroPulse for GPU ( ATi & NV) released (r1316) (Message 1266045)
Posted 31 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Your problem is with the file ap_graphics_6.01_windows_intelx86.exe
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2544369687

Very probably your antivirus is interfering:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68629&postid=1257824#1257824

Get the file manually:
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/ap_graphics_6.01_windows_intelx86.exe

(Probably your antivirus will say something nasty and wrong. If it does: complain to the antivirus company)


If you can get the file from the above link (I can, I get the file just now and the file is the same as the one I have):
put it in the ....\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\ and then start BOINC

In your case of Windows 7 the exact path is most likely:
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\

2034) Message boards : Number crunching : Agravating Non S@H Problem!!! (Message 1265744)
Posted 30 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

This page (Issues | Flash Player 11.3 | Mozilla Firefox) have some hints:
http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/flash-player-113-crash-mozilla.html

2035) Message boards : Number crunching : Agravating Non S@H Problem!!! (Message 1265428)
Posted 29 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I get the message that Adobe Flash Player Update Service 11.3 r300 has a problem and needs to be closed

I didn't get that message in my conditions:
Windows XP
Mainly using Opera 11.64 or SRWare Iron, rarely Firefox (e.g. once a month)

Used several subversions of Adobe Flash Player 11.3 (e.g. 11.3.300.257 , 11.3.300.265)
Every time choosing 'Notify me ...' in the Flash Player Update dialog:

D:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash\mms.cfg :
AutoUpdateDisable=0
SilentAutoUpdateEnable=0

I think in this case the 'Adobe Flash Player Update Service' never runs.
I don't see it in the list of Services (even disabled) (using services.msc , ServiWin , Autoruns)

(The check for new version (in the case of 'Notify me ...') is probably done only when the Flash Player is used during browsing?
I have seen several times entry for its update in HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce

But when I see this I usually do the update with .cmd file (which is in \WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash\):

@Echo Off
For %%f in (FlashUtil*ActiveX.exe) do Echo %%f & %%f -update activex & Pause
For %%f in (FlashUtil*Plugin.exe) do Echo %%f & %%f -update plugin & Pause
)

2036) Message boards : Number crunching : transient HTTP error (Message 1265028)
Posted 27 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
transient HTTP error
How can this be fixed?

There is NO 'transient HTTP error' in your posted log.

... still end up with
"exited with zero status but no 'finished' file
If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project."
I've done this many times over a couple months. What's going on?

Do NOT 'reset the project' when you see this.
Most probably your antivirus is interfering

Try to exclude your Data directory: I:\BOINC DATA from antivirus checking/scanning/monitoring to see if that helps.



It's in his first post. ...

Which 'first post'??
Grant Atkins have only one post.

(by It I suppose you mean 'transient HTTP error' in a log)

2037) Message boards : Number crunching : transient HTTP error (Message 1263640)
Posted 23 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
transient HTTP error
How can this be fixed?

There is NO 'transient HTTP error' in your posted log.

... still end up with
"exited with zero status but no 'finished' file
If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project."
I've done this many times over a couple months. What's going on?

Do NOT 'reset the project' when you see this.
Most probably your antivirus is interfering

Try to exclude your Data directory: I:\BOINC DATA from antivirus checking/scanning/monitoring to see if that helps.

2038) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : CUDA GPU workunits -- processing errors (Message 1263249)
Posted 22 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
One thing I must disagree with is the assumption that the cards do not run full steam when playing games ...
Happy to be proven wrong.

1) You can't be sure that a game loads all the computing parts of the GPU all the time
(you can 'run full steam' jumping on one leg, you will sweat if you do that for a long time but one leg will be 'idle')

2) Games can tolerate GPU computing errors (wrong bits), all that may happen is some pixel with wrong color or other small intermittent glitch for a split second.

3) SETI CUDA app try to use all the computing units (shaders) (this happens especially with VHARs, the computation is highly parallel) and need mathematically accurate results.
(of course SETI (and all CUDA apps) do not use some parts of the GPU, e.g. texturing units, video decoder, ...)


- Get OCCT and test your GPU for errors (at previous settings (MHz, V) with No BOINC running, use several 'Shader Complexity' values to find the 'best'):
http://www.ocbase.com/

For me the older version OCCT 3.1.0 gives much higher temp (on AMD Radeon HD 6570):




Get OCCTPT3.1.0.zip from here (I checked - the file is the same that I have (25.05.2011) from the original site when this was the latest version):
https://sites.google.com/site/techtdsn/tools


P.S.
a) GeForce GTX 560 Ti is 'famous' here for making CUDA errors if run at high MHz but low V (as most of the early factory OC versions).
One of the threads on the subject:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66124

b) If you 'promise' ;) to visit forums often (at least once a month) and Subscribe to this thread:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=53611

... you can get the Optimized Applications and have faster processing (on CPU 150-200%) and less errors on GPU:
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9

(you will need 'Installer v0.40 64 bit')

The Optimized Applications will not update automatically so you have to visit the forums to check for newer versions (e.g. when SETI@home v7 replaces SETI@home v6).

2039) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD test needed to improve TThrottle AMD support. (Message 1263194)
Posted 22 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
http://www.efmer.eu/forum_tt/index.php?topic=959.0

Are you asking for AMD CPUs or AMD/ATI GPUs?

This link gives for me:
"
Warning!
The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you.
Please login below or register an account with TThrottle - BoincTasks.
"
2040) Message boards : Number crunching : New AstroPulse for GPU ( ATi & NV) released (r1316) (Message 1263187)
Posted 22 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I had an abortion because the download is very long ...


http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68679&postid=1260962#1260962

P.S.
Did you remove -instances_per_device 1 ?

2041) Message boards : Number crunching : To Many ERRORS (Message 1262666)
Posted 20 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I changed, afew minutes ago, period_iterations from 20 to 10, which
decreased runtime and increased GPU-load, also decreased lag.

Are you sure about the lag??
You can feel the lag most with VLARs, if you now run non-VLARs you will feel less lag.

I run with -period_iterations_num 80 and even with this higher value I feel small lag (especially when scrolling) if VLAR is running.
(with -period_iterations_num 10 lag is very big)


This makes me ask Raistmer - Is it possible to have some option that sets -period_iterations_num at different values depending on AR?
e.g.:
-period_iterations_num 20 -period_iterations_num_VLAR 100

2042) Message boards : Number crunching : To Many ERRORS (Message 1262529)
Posted 20 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do you think that these slow running tasks may be the same issue I reported in PM to you ('Task_Hang_on_ATI', 'Addendum__Task_Hang_on_ATI') and you "copied to the r390 thread at Lunatics"?
("task 'hang' on ATI and auto-continued after a long time (but validated OK)")

Do you think that what I noted in the second letter ('Addendum__Task_Hang_on_ATI') have any merits?:
"
About the pause in GPU processing during BOINC usage:

This may be some driver glitch -
it appears to me that if I start some GPU monitoring tool it kicks the ATI driver and the GPU processing continues.
(I may be wrong, this may be just a coincidence, I didn't watching for this behaviour specifically
but I can say that the GPU processing continued at +- 2 minutes around the start of GPU monitoring program.
)

It is probably not the GPU monitoring as such that do the 'kick' (as SIV and TThrottle run all the time).
I suppose it have to be the start (initialization phase) of GPU monitoring tool.

It was GPU-Z in the case of 21fe12ad.19149.9502.8.10.160.vlar
It was ATI MemoryViewer in the case of 25ap12aa.26506.476.13.10.96
"
2043) Message boards : Number crunching : New AstroPulse for GPU ( ATi & NV) released (r1316) (Message 1262521)
Posted 20 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... time_to_go slowly increases for a few minute, then suddenly takes a dive, at the same time progress is frozen, suddenly taking a leap up, the two being synchronised and very confusing....

Not confusing but logical and normal.

AP on GPU update the 'Progress' once per a few minutes (maybe to not slow the processing), everytime about +0.9 % is added to 'Progress'
While the 'Progress' do not move BOINC 'thinks' the app is stuck so "time_to_go slowly increases for a few minute"
Then at once a 'huge' +0.9 % is added to 'Progress' and "time_to_go suddenly takes a dive"

2044) Questions and Answers : Windows : Screensaver issues (Message 1262072)
Posted 19 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
how do i open "bonic manager"?

If BOINC Manager is already running its icon should be in the SysTray (Notification Area)

2045) Message boards : Number crunching : New AstroPulse for GPU ( ATi & NV) released (r1316) (Message 1262062)
Posted 19 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

What happens if the two options contradict?:
-instances_per_device 1
<count>0.5</count>

Will it run only one AP task on the GPU but leave 0.5 GPU 'free' (as seen by BOINC) to run MB task (if MB also have <count>0.5</count>)?

2046) Message boards : Number crunching : New AstroPulse for GPU ( ATi & NV) released (r1316) (Message 1262051)
Posted 19 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You continue to use contradicting options:

<cmdline>-instances_per_device 1 -unroll 10 -ffa_block 6144 -ffa_block_fetch 1536 -sbs 256</cmdline>
<coproc>
<type>CUDA</type>
<count>0.5</count>
</coproc>

For this new app don't use -instances_per_device:
<cmdline>-unroll 10 -ffa_block 6144 -ffa_block_fetch 1536 -sbs 256</cmdline>

... or even only:
<cmdline>-unroll 7</cmdline>


(? is it optimal for NVIDIA to use -unroll = 1/2 of the "Number of compute units: 14"?
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2530286745
)

2047) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows 7 64 bit system with 16Gb RAM but no paging file? (Message 1261651)
Posted 18 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"how likely" depends on the programmer writing the code.
You have to estimate how often programmers forget to release the allocated memory, how much memory was allocated, how often that buggy part of code is executed ...

The example (while (malloc(50));) at the end of this page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_leak

... will consume all the memory probably in seconds.
(especially if the loop is slightly changed to write something in the allocated memory and several instances of the program are run)

2048) Message boards : Number crunching : had my computer go boom...can you remove? (Message 1261346)
Posted 17 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

No need to sorry, you try to help the project and that is OK
But your 'problem' happens all the time with many people and tasks and it will not hurt the project.

P.S.
If you want to 'Lock Thread': click the small red square under your post and say something like 'Lock my Thread, please'

2049) Message boards : Number crunching : Has anybody else noticed the change to the message boards? (Message 1261342)
Posted 17 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

There is another bug:
OK: When I click on a thread to read it the "Sort" is "Oldest first" (as I set in my "Community preferences")
BAD: After I post the "Sort" becomes "Newest first" which makes me curse ;)
2050) Message boards : Number crunching : had my computer go boom...can you remove? (Message 1261335)
Posted 17 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Your <100 tasks on board are so small part of the whole picture so it doesn't matter when they will be processed.

You can see that some radio-data recorded in 2010 are sent to us just now (look under "Splitter status").
And "Results received in last hour 55,542" (which is 1000 times more than your 'waiting' tasks).
And "Results returned and awaiting validation 5,141,148" (5 million returned results wait for another matching result, you contribute for only ~50 of them to wait)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html


And they (the project) have huge heap of data ("signals") collected already "to look at".
See the numbers under "Master Science Database":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sci_status.html

2051) Message boards : Number crunching : Fast download happening. (Message 1260962)
Posted 16 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I think I'll stick with deleting WU's that take more than 2 minutes for downloading.

Get SIV - System Information Viewer
Use Auto Retry:

http://rh-software.com/





2052) Message boards : Number crunching : Malware/Adware (Message 1260957)
Posted 16 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It was that pesky file. ...
Super AntiSpyWare found it

Where? (full directory)
Which file? (filename.ext)
What? (threat name)

2053) Message boards : Number crunching : Computer time changed to 2015 - can tasks be salvaged? (Message 1259315)
Posted 12 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you are about to give up (and if client_state.xml still contain 'something'):
Exit BOINC
Make a copy of client_state.xml (to be able to edit it again if the Find/Replace go wrong the first time)

Open client_state.xml in Notepad and use Ctrl+H

Find:
<state>5</state>

Replace All with:
<state>2</state>

(if the file 'looks' good - try it in action ;) )


I think that:
<state>5</state> is Ready to report
<state>2</state> is Ready to start/Running/Waiting to run (depending on other tags/info in the client_state.xml)

2054) Questions and Answers : Windows : No Work ? (Message 1258939)
Posted 11 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Look at the HOME page:
"News
Science Database Updates
We are attempting some updates to the master science database.
This may mean a workunit shortage over the next day or so after we come back on line later this afternoon from our usual Tuesday outage.
"
2055) Message boards : Number crunching : Back to the Future? (Message 1258745)
Posted 11 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The original confusion lay in the server status page though. Who cares what time it in UTC when I am in EST, the server is in PST, and I'm looking at the server status page?

I care. And most everybody else care because we are not in EST.
(I wonder why the heck I use this 'arbitrary' international unit called meter, why do I not use the 'proper and true' inch/foot/mile or the 'holy' cubit?)

Is this the first time you hear about UTC??

What you'll say if I insist the times to be shown in Bulgarian time so it suits me?
Not everybody live in USA, USA is not the world
(and USA's 'football' is not a football but handball ;) - that is in fact arbitrary usage of the word football)

(If airplanes use local times in communications they will crash every day)

2056) Message boards : Number crunching : Newbie question...work not being "processed" after the maintenance outage on 7/10? (Message 1258711)
Posted 11 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Is the system that processes these work units still down? ...
I'd hate to loose credit ...

Yes, look at sah_validate:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html

You will not lose credit. It will just come later.

2057) Message boards : Number crunching : New AstroPulse for GPU ( ATi & NV) released (r1316) (Message 1258692)
Posted 11 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

On ATI AMD Radeon HD 6570 / Catalyst 11.12 / Win XP
r1316 is 1.3x times faster than r555 and uses less CPU and more GPU %:

Quick timetable

WU : ap_Zblank_9LC67.wu 
AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r555.exe -verbose -unroll 3 :
  Elapsed 989.422 secs
      CPU 250.969 secs
AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r1316.exe -verbose -unroll 3 :
  Elapsed 756.250 secs, speedup: 23.57%  ratio: 1.31x
      CPU 63.156 secs, speedup: 74.84%  ratio: 3.97x




2058) Questions and Answers : Windows : VIRUS IN THE PROJECTS (Message 1258474)
Posted 10 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Two more Antivirus scan results (nothing found):

http://r.virscan.org/report/364572dc4292f30b165afe592eb2a626.html

http://virusscan.jotti.org/en/scanresult/f8165a9bc2bcc55cde281bc4089a2af4d6cc348f

(Despite using the same Antivirus programs the sites (virustotal.com, virscan.org, virusscan.jotti.org) sometimes give different results probably because they use different settings (e.g. heuristics sensitivity level))

2059) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC MANAGER WONT CONNECT (Message 1257841)
Posted 9 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
3) Work wont upload

For how long?
What happens if you select rows (in Transfers tab) and click [Retry Now]?
What are the messages (in Event Log) in this case?


4) I exit (BOINC?), restart (BOINC?) and get the communicating message which is constant 24/7 until...

Do you see (in Windows Task Manager, Process Explorer, ...) the 2 processes running in this case?:
boinc.exe
boincmgr.exe

2060) Questions and Answers : Windows : VIRUS IN THE PROJECTS (Message 1257824)
Posted 9 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Hi guys, I just wanted to report a trojan found in the installation of the seti software. I had just signed up for the project and it was being downloaded by the manager, when it finished downloading some parts, my AV software showed this message:

In der Datei 'C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\ap_graphics_6.01_windows_intelx86.exe'
wurde ein Virus oder unerwünschtes Programm 'TR/Patched.Gen' [trojan] gefunden.
Ausgeführte Aktion: Zugriff verweigern

sorry for the German, is says in the file"..." a virus or unwanted program"..." was found.

Action: Access denied.

Just letting you know. Thanks.

"my AV software" is not at all informative, which is this strange antivirus?
(TrendMicro have habit of giving such false positives, and before my scan bellow
TrendMicro was marking (last scan result was a month ago) the http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/ as 'Malicious site'!?)

NONE of the antivirus programs (Detection ratio: 0 / 42) gives any warning about:
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/ap_graphics_6.01_windows_intelx86.exe
https://www.virustotal.com/file/6be058f0ac2997fba8d37445d268b3efccd54a64f9b2b35fe4478e6300a39d41/analysis/1341799812/

2061) Message boards : Number crunching : Strangest graphic ever displayed by seti@home (Message 1257800)
Posted 9 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:


http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/rfi/broad_band.html

"the SETI@home screensaver normalizes the graph" so it's not 'very low power signal' but is probably normal noise surrounded by strong 'signals' (and very strong 'signals' are very probably very near (terrestrial)).

2062) Questions and Answers : Web site : my computer isn't running the program (Message 1256749)
Posted 7 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you see "CPU usage is too high" go to your Computing preferences:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global

And change this to 0 (zero):
"Suspend work when non-BOINC CPU usage is above" --- %

(by default the value is 25 %)

2063) Message boards : Number crunching : New AstroPulse for GPU ( ATi & NV) released (r1316) (Message 1256450)
Posted 6 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Second big change - there is ap_cmdline.txt file that can be used to add command line parameters to app.
Put params there as you would put them in corresponding tag in app_info.
App_info tag supported too so use a way that more convenient to you.

Which one will be used if they contradict?

(e.g.
* in app_info.xml
<cmdline>-unroll 3 -ffa_block 2048 -ffa_block_fetch 1024</cmdline>

* in ap_cmdline.txt
-unroll 6 -ffa_block 2048 -ffa_block_fetch 1024
)


Will this erase AP ATI 601 tasks on-board?:
<version_num>604</version_num>

I think I need second 'copy' section with:
<version_num>601</version_num>


P.S.
It will be good to supply APATI.aistub (two of them - for 32 and 64 bit) in the .7z

2064) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC MANAGER WONT CONNECT (Message 1256436)
Posted 6 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
BOINC uploads tasks at the first of: ...

I think that list is for reporting, not for uploads.
BOINC try to upload immediately after task finishes.

@Anthony Henderson:
These 2 contradict:
"The software downloads work after install and processes it but then wont upload"

"05/07/2012 21:57:08 | SETI@home | Reporting 2 completed tasks, not requesting new tasks"

If you have something to Report then you successfully did the upload of results.

2065) Message boards : Number crunching : DNS changer warning (Message 1256143)
Posted 6 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
They have a list of the 9 servers here: https://forms.fbi.gov/check-to-see-if-your-computer-is-using-rogue-DNS

Yes, from exactly that page I visited all the 'www.dns-ok.--' sites
but bothered to find the 'green' and 'red' IPs just for two of them.
(I just wanted to see how the check works and how the 'red' warning page looks)

2066) Message boards : Number crunching : DNS changer warning (Message 1256062)
Posted 5 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

It works but is just overloaded (too many checks lead to 'green' 38.68.193.96)
The Red (38.68.193.97) works immediately - too few people reach this address.

2067) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.40 release notes (Message 1256053)
Posted 5 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do you (anybody) see the screenshots now?
It appears for me that the hosting site (prikachi.com) is not working for the moment.
I can repost them using different hosting site.

To see are 'they' running:
in Windows Task Manager (or Process Explorer, ...) - check if any or all of the following processes run:
AK_v8b2_win_SSE3_AMD.exe
ap_6.01r557_SSE2_331_AVX.exe
MB6_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r390.exe
AP6_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r555.exe

2068) Message boards : Number crunching : DNS changer warning (Message 1256041)
Posted 5 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

These links give your real situation:
http://www.dns-ok.us/
http://www.dns-ok.be/


The following is just for amusement, it DON'T give your real situation, it just shows how the test works:

If you are Not infected (i.e. you are using 'normal' DNS Servers) those URLs translate to these IPs (and the web pages there are green):
http://38.68.193.96/
http://193.190.198.221/

If you ARE infected (i.e. you are using now 'FBI-temporary-replacement' DNS Servers) those URLs translate to these IPs (and the web pages there are red):
(These IPs are given intentionally by the 'FBI-temporary-replacement' DNS Servers so the same URL resolves to different IP than when using 'normal' DNS Servers):
(It is safe (for you) to click the links, you WILL see Red as IF you were infected.
The only problem for them (the check site) may be if they count the number of users/IPs which reach/load this page - the 'infected' count will be a little higher as we are 'clean')
http://38.68.193.97/
http://193.190.198.222/

(as you are probably not infected (as shown by the first/'real' www.dns-ok links) - click above (on the IP links) to see what the 'poor' infected guys see by this check)

2069) Message boards : Number crunching : DNS changer warning (Message 1255914)
Posted 5 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
A trojan called DNS changer will attack some PC on july 9.

Check your settings here.

http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2011/november/malware_110911

http://www.dns-ok.us/

Thanks for the links but the info "DNS changer will attack some PC on July 9" is not correct (is misleading).
(Yes, any virus/trojan can infect unprotected PCs, but "July 9" is not some special date for this to happen, the same can happen on any date)

The real info is:
"The clean DNS servers will be turned off on July 9, 2012, and computers still impacted by DNSChanger may lose Internet connectivity at that time."

This means: only computers already infected by DNSChanger may lose Internet connectivity.
(and nothing more than "Internet connectivity" until they clean the DNSChanger and put proper DNS Servers in the network settings, "July 9" is Not the "infect date".

I use these DNS Servers (in this order, the first 2 belong to Google):
8.8.4.4
8.8.8.8
129.250.35.250
4.2.2.2
192.168.1.1


(reverse) NsLookup of those DNS Servers:

Name: google-public-dns-b.google.com
Address: 8.8.4.4

Name: google-public-dns-a.google.com
Address: 8.8.8.8

Name: x.ns.gin.ntt.net
Address: 129.250.35.250

Name: vnsc-bak.sys.gtei.net
Address: 4.2.2.2
)
2070) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC 7.0.25 completely ruined everything (Message 1255065)
Posted 3 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

This is the beginning of mine, there is more but mainly for "Width"= and "Height"= of different dialog windows.

You can create .reg file from this (the selected Language in my BOINC Manager 6.10.58 is English):
(if BOINC Manager starts successfully I think it will create the remaining keys/values)
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley\BOINC Manager]
"GUISelection"=dword:00000001
"Language"=dword:00000038
"ReminderFrequency"=dword:00000000
"DisplayExitWarning"=dword:00000000
"NetworkDialupConnectionName"=""
"X_Position"=dword:00000011
"Y_Position"=dword:00000159
"WindowIconized"=dword:00000000
"WindowMaximized"=dword:00000000
"Width"=dword:00000648
"Height"=dword:0000047c
"DisplayShutdownClientWarning"=dword:00000001
"DisplayViewType"=dword:00000001
"CurrentPage"=dword:00000001
"Skin"="Default"
"AutomaticallyShutdownClient"=dword:00000001
"DisplayShutdownClientDialog"=dword:00000000
"DisableAutoStart"=dword:00000001
"XPos"=dword:fffffff8
"YPos"=dword:0000001e

2071) Questions and Answers : Windows : Can't Seem to Get Started (Message 1254595)
Posted 2 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The status page tells me that the program was stopped by me. Did not do that.

Where is this "status page" you are talking about? (if you can - post screenshot)
What does it say exactly?

You have to have 1 task to work on:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6189279

2072) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Sharing GPU load with CPU (Message 1254578)
Posted 2 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"Well, modern GPU chips are not afraid of working at temperatures of 80°C and even higher ...":
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/radeon-hd6670-hd6570-hd6450_3.html#sect0

The shown temperatures are for reference Radeon HD (video card/cooling system made by AMD/ATI)

My ASUS HD 6570 1GB DDR3 - ASUS EAH6570/DI/1GD3(LP):
http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/AMD_Series/EAH6570DI1GD3LP/

... do not go that high.

On SETI - 45-55°C, FurMark or GPU Caps Viewer:Furry Cube - 61°C, OCCT Perestroika:Shader Complexity 7,8 - 72°C

OCCT - Shader Complexity 7:



2073) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Sharing GPU load with CPU (Message 1254423)
Posted 2 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Off-topic:
The signature and the forum posts do not accept HTML, use BBCode tags instead:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/bbcode.php

e.g.:
[img]http://boinc.mundayweb.com/one/stats.php?userID=2384[/img]



2074) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Sharing GPU load with CPU (Message 1254413)
Posted 2 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Self-quote:
TThrottle does Not have setting for % CPU/GPU

I'm partially wrong about that, there is 'Max Cpu %' but you don't need it.
Just set the temperatures to "reasonable" values - not very low, not very high
(e.g. 10°C is too low - even idle CPU/GPU may be at 30-40°C)

2075) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Sharing GPU load with CPU (Message 1254386)
Posted 2 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

TThrottle does Not have setting for % CPU/GPU, it have settings for the Max °C for CPU and GPU you want to allow ('Set Core', 'set GPU').

When the temperature is bellow the corresponding Max °C - the CPU and/or GPU run at 100% (no restriction/Throttle done)
When the temperature reaches the Max °C set by you - TThrottle starts to do short (ms) pauses of the computing apps to keep the corresponding temperature at the limit you chose.
The pause/run time is adjusted dynamically (e.g. TThrottle shows 'Run GPU 70%')
Those pauses are visible in Process Explorer

So % CPU/GPU changes automatically and dynamically to keep the temperature below the limit.
For this to work OK - better set in BOINC 'Use 100% CPU time' and let TThrottle adjust this dynamically depending on the temperature.

2076) Questions and Answers : Windows : VIRUS IN THE PROJECTS (Message 1254287)
Posted 1 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do you REALLY say that you gave $250 to a 'tech' that tells lies to get your money??

I bet you are using some stupid antivirus (Trend Micro, Comodo, Symantec/Norton)

Scan your file here:
https://www.virustotal.com/
http://virscan.org/

I'm using ESET NOD32 Antivirus 4.2.71.2

2077) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Sharing GPU load with CPU (Message 1254276)
Posted 1 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The way to limit the GPU temperature is TThrottle
http://www.efmer.eu/boinc/

2078) Message boards : Number crunching : uploads failing .... (Message 1253943)
Posted 1 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

It is this way for several (5-6) hours now:
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets

2079) Message boards : Number crunching : Double-check RAM settings (Message 1253936)
Posted 1 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Maybe the manufacturer page tells more:
http://www.corsair.com/vengeance-16gb-dual-channel-ddr3-memory-kit-cmz16gx3m4a1600c9.html/

"Corsair Vengeance DDR3 memory modules are designed with overclockers in mind"
"Includes XMP performance profile"

Intel and Overclocking DDR3 Memory - The Intel® Extreme Memory Profile - How Intel XMP works:
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/gaming/gaming-computers/intel-extreme-memory-profile-xmp.html

"Fail-safe default boot
“First boot” with default JEDEC setting on a platform that supports DDR3 standard JEDEC specification (your standard DDR3 memory frequencies), ensuring base functionality.
Then user can enter BIOS and manually change settings or use the Windows*-based Intel® Extreme Tuning Utility.
"
2080) Questions and Answers : Web site : My Team Disappeared (Message 1253922)
Posted 1 Jul 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Any member of a team can click on:
Team foundership change Initiate request

And the following is shown:
"If the team founder is not active and you want to assume the role of founder, click the button below. The current founder will be sent an email detailing your request, and will be able to transfer foundership to you or to decline your request. If the founder does not respond in 60 days, you will be allowed to become the founder.

Are you sure you want to request foundership?

[Request foundership]
"

Maybe the (new) team founder can exclude (ban) members and he excluded you.
And Blade Runners team show "Not accepting new members":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/team_display.php?teamid=135472

2081) Questions and Answers : Getting started : How is average credit measured? (Message 1253793)
Posted 30 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you want to see "your true average credit per day":

http://boincstats.com/en/stats/0/user/detail/9751111/charts
http://boincstats.com/en/charts/0/user/racPerDay/9751111/chart.png

My:
http://boincstats.com/en/charts/0/user/racPerDay/8647488/chart.png

How is BOINCstats RAC (BS-RAC) calculated, and why use it instead of project-RAC?
http://boincstats.com/en/page/faq#61

"BS-RAC is the gained credit of the past x days divided by x"

2082) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.40 release notes (Message 1253728)
Posted 30 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

These are the settings for using AMD CPU + ATI GPU for SETI
(if you have AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 630 Processor, AMD Radeon HD 6570, Windows 7 x64)






P.S.
- The screenshots are from the 32 bit Lunatics Installer, I don't know if the 64 bit looks the same.
(obviously the 'SSE (p3)' and 'SSE2' will not be in the 64 bit Lunatics Installer as these CPUs are not 64 bit)

- There is no file called lunaticswin6440.04.exe
The file (Lunatics Installer 64 bit) is Lunatics_Win64_v0.40_setup.exe
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9

- The Lunatics Installer does NOT install any driver for the GPU
It just puts some files (.exe, .dll, .xml, ...) in the SETI directory (....\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)

2083) Questions and Answers : Windows : Graphics (Message 1253703)
Posted 30 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do you have OpenGL video drivers installed?

You can check by GPU Caps Viewer
http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/

2084) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Appinfo change for 2 WU per GPU (Message 1248705)
Posted 20 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Will the appinfo below run 2 at once on the GPU??

No.
<count>0.5</count> is OK but you forget -instances_per_device


<cmdline>-period_iterations_num 20 -instances_per_device 2</cmdline>
<coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>0.5</count>


And, would it be wise to do the same with AP??

Why not? (if you want 2 tasks on the GPU it is the AP which benefit more due to high-blanked AP tasks do not load GPU much)

2085) Message boards : Number crunching : My PC have his own life..? ;-) (Message 1248700)
Posted 20 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Detach (unplug) the mouse from the computer, try to use only keyboard.
(e.g. Win+D to show Desktop, some letter to go to an icon, arrows, Enter
Win to open Start Menu, arrows
Win+D Tab Tab to go to Quick Launch, letters, arrows
Alt+Tab to switch between programs
Ctrl+Tab to switch between tabs
)

Do the same problem continue (without the mouse)?

2086) Message boards : Number crunching : WUProp@Home (Message 1248662)
Posted 20 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Every time when I see some new for me and 'interesting' project I wonder what it will demand from my computer.
Will it download 500 MB per task? Will it use GB of RAM? Will it run one task for month? Will it have deadlines of 2 days?
(I am reluctant to attach to 'heavy'/demanding projects)

WUProp@home can give you this info.

You may just use the statistics collected from other computers:
http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/results/ram.py
http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/results/occupation.py
(move the mouse at left to open the menu for more stats)

... or/and you may as well attach to WUProp@home to let it collect statistics for your host/projects/apps.

WUProp@home is very, very light-weight project:
HDD space used: < 1 MB
RAM used: ~4 MB (only one task 'runs', no CPU core 'devoted' to it)
CPU time used: ~0.2 sec per hour ('non-CPU-intensive project')
http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/results.php?userid=5849
(task 'runs' for 3 hours, no download, practically no CPU used, it only collects info about your other projects' tasks - run time, download/upload size, RAM used, etc.)


People you may know ;) which are attached to WUProp@home (in order of appearance):
http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/show_user.php?userid=166
http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/show_user.php?userid=881
http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/show_user.php?userid=1199
http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/show_user.php?userid=1424
http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/show_user.php?userid=5784


There are only a few old posts here about WUProp@Home:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=63216&nowrap=true#1079403


I asked a question on the new Asteroids@home
and was pointed to WUProp@Home:
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/forum_thread.php?id=4

2087) Questions and Answers : Windows : Can't Seem to Get Started (Message 1248360)
Posted 19 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you can - generate MD5 checksums and compare with these:
f9b65230a594098d183d2266511bc648 *arecibo_181.png
5791ba1be2d33eaa5f90ecf5de89a53d *sah_40.png
39839286db7f580bef5377322d15ed35 *sah_banner_290.png
caf95504208aedd6ac6d82201e2fd8b1 *sah_ss_290.png

The size in bytes is this:
arecibo_181.png 	52 779
sah_40.png 		 2 536
sah_banner_290.png 	25 488
sah_ss_290.png 		35 399


The errors show that seti_603.jpg is the "problem file":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6700675&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2489102376

You can get seti_603.jpg (in .rar) manually from here:
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-46d79d7a.html

2088) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Accidental Abortion (Message 1248353)
Posted 19 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

This is your 'Aborted by user' task (as you see - No Credit (and this is normal for Aborted tasks)):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1012414337

It is not very easy to 'accidentally abort a task' as there is a question:



2089) Questions and Answers : Windows : WHAT MIGHT I SEE IF THERE IS A SIGNAL FROM ET (Message 1246333)
Posted 15 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
what a signal may look like

It will be written in ALL CAPS ;)

The only 'large, friendly letters' I know of are "DON'T PANIC":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrases_from_The_Hitchhiker's_Guide_to_the_Galaxy#Don.27t_Panic

2090) Questions and Answers : Web site : Aborting a projects (Message 1245803)
Posted 14 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
SETI takes all the room on disk

Only if you call <100 MB "all the room on disk" (Look in 'Disk' tab)


... and I have lots of memory left

So you would like if SETI occupies all the memory?

2091) Message boards : Number crunching : Error while computing (Message 1244632)
Posted 11 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Try BOINC 7.0.28
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67785

(some people reported task crashing with BOINC 7.0.25 when using Snooze GPU and similar options which stop/restart tasks)

2092) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Rogue GPU Thread (Message 1243428)
Posted 8 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The only way to get it to stop is to tell it to abort the task.

Why abort?

Did you try:
- "Snooze GPU" (from the tray icon) (stops GPU computing for 1 hour)
- "Use GPU never" (from Activity menu) (stops GPU computing "forever" (until you re-enable it))
- Exit BOINC completely (Select "Stop running the science applications" in the Exit dialog or use "Shut down connected client" from Advanced menu before exiting BOINC Manager)

2093) Questions and Answers : Windows : Cant stop boinc from starting automatically (at startup) (Message 1243023)
Posted 7 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... a fine bit of PC Sherlock Holmesery on your part.
cheers Andy

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Sherlock_Holmes

"when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth"

;)

2094) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU More than one WU (Message 1243012)
Posted 7 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
How will O/Cing this rig affect the GPU and will it have any benefit in terms of reducing the CPU time used for the WU's and subsequently the GPU runtime?

I think not much (maybe <1% effect on GPU runtime) (but I don't have a CUDA card)
But it will of course have effect on CPU tasks (you appear to have intentionally disabled the SETI CPU tasks?)

If you intend to OC your GTX 560 Ti - be careful, we had seen many users generate many errors with factory OCed GTX 560 Ti GPUs (too much MHz and/or too low Voltage)

2095) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : No screensaver? (Message 1242990)
Posted 7 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I also have Docking running on my CPU and I'm able to see it's graphics.

The same is true for the SETI CPU app, it has graphic part (unlike the SETI CUDA app)

2096) Questions and Answers : Windows : Cant stop boinc from starting automatically (at startup) (Message 1241973)
Posted 6 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Did you already try Autoruns?:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902.aspx

(No install needed, just unpack the .zip and run the .exe)


Do you by any chance use some additional software which auto-starts programs?

Like e.g. Startup Delayer:
http://www.r2.com.au/page/products/show/startdelay

(if you do - its auto-start actions will very probably Not be shown by any other program (like MSConfig, CCleaner, Autoruns))

2097) Message boards : Number crunching : Since the last outage... (Message 1241282)
Posted 4 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I went back to version 6

"version 6" of what?

What do you see now about VRAM available?:
5/28/2012 11:49:53 AM | | NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce 8600M GT (driver version 301.42, CUDA version 4.20, compute capability 1.1, 256MB, 176MB available, 91 GFLOPS peak)
5/28/2012 11:49:53 AM | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce 8600M GT (driver version 301.42, device version OpenCL 1.0 CUDA, 256MB, 176MB available)


And you have "sleep bug" here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5401439&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=

2098) Message boards : Number crunching : Too late to validate? (Message 1241271)
Posted 4 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I think if you set NNT (until all is reported) the server bug will not make false resents to you?

Resends are still sent even when NNT is set.

Don't you have to actually ask for work like in:
02-Jun-2012 21:58:25 [SETI@home] Reporting 1 completed tasks, requesting new tasks for CPU and GPU
... for the Resends logic to kick in?

2099) Message boards : Number crunching : Too late to validate? (Message 1241260)
Posted 4 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I think if you set NNT (until all is reported) the server bug will not make false resents to you?

2100) Questions and Answers : Windows : Cant stop boinc from starting automatically (at startup) (Message 1241252)
Posted 4 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do you have anything BOINC related in these keys? (especially for boincmgr.exe):
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]

Did you make sure BOINC is not running while you do the changes to the registry?

(Before doing registry changes you can "Export..." (from RegEdit) the key tree to file (to have backup of values), there is No Undo in RegEdit)

2101) Message boards : Number crunching : My worthless non-GPU adventure (Message 1241208)
Posted 4 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... eventually I'll buy a couple cheapies and make a budget cruncher ... (from the first post)
The focus for that rig will be $/Credit value, taking into account cost of parts AND electric.

The cheapest (both cost of parts AND electricity) way to up your RAC
is to add cheap CUDA card to your existing computers.

E.g. like this one (NVIDIA GeForce GT 430):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67837&nowrap=true#1223749

For a price of ~$60 this is much cheaper than Xeon CPUs

2102) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI NO LONGER DOWN LOADING (Message 1241189)
Posted 4 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You can revert back to using web-based settings by [Clear] button
"Click Clear to restore web-based settings":




(And if you want to continue using web-based settings
- Never press [OK] button to just exit/close this window, use [Cancel] or <Esc>)

2103) Questions and Answers : Windows : Cant stop boinc from starting automatically (at startup) (Message 1241129)
Posted 4 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It's very easy to stop BOINC from auto-starting (there is even option during the install)

Sorry, I may be wrong about this, there is only option for the screensaver:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Installing_BOINC



(the last time I needed to install BOINC was maybe almost 2 years ago)


If you want you may check the following keys/values using RegEdit (but Autoruns is easier for the "Run" keys/values):
(make sure BOINC is not running if/while you do changes)

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley\BOINC Setup]
"ENABLELAUNCHATLOGON"="1" <-- change this to 0 (zero)


[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley\BOINC Manager]
"DisableAutoStart"=dword:00000000 <-- change this to 1


Also check in these keys for entries that start boincmgr.exe
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]

Check also the folders:
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
C:\Documents and Settings\<Your-Windows-Username>\Start Menu\Programs\Startup

2104) Questions and Answers : Web site : SETI@home over Hughesnet Satellite connection (Message 1241087)
Posted 4 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Try to ask in "Number crunching":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_forum.php?id=10

Most knowledgeable people read/post there.

2105) Message boards : Number crunching : Since the last outage... (Message 1240917)
Posted 3 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

driver: 295.73 have "sleep bug" if your monitor is connected to DVI and you let Windows to sleep the monitor (CUDA will disappear)

(If monitor is connected to VGA - No problem,
If monitor do not auto-sleep (even on DVI) - No problem)

2106) Message boards : Number crunching : lunatics GPU x38g + 296.10 Driver (Message 1240864)
Posted 3 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
BTW if you open the client_state.xml with internet explorer, i noticed that the GPU calculation is halted, because no CPU cycles left to feed the GPU. CPU calculation is OK with the leftover resources.

Open it with Notepad if you feel you have to open it at all.

And even better - make a copy of client_state.xml and open the copy with Notepad

2107) Questions and Answers : Windows : Cant stop boinc from starting automatically (at startup) (Message 1240829)
Posted 3 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If you look at the earlier posts ...

I don't post before reading.

Most probably - you make a change (using MSConfig, CCleaner, Autoruns, RegEdit, ...)
but then Exit BOINC manually which re-enables the old setting.
Check again just before you reboot (using MSConfig, CCleaner, Autoruns, RegEdit, ...)

It's very easy to stop BOINC from auto-starting (there is even option during the install).
(the old versions of BOINC put shortcut in Startup, new versions - in Run key in the registry)

The all auto-start entries for BOINC (even weird like manually made by someone scheduled tasks) are for sure shown by Autoruns

The only I can think of which will not be shown is setting in program like Process Lasso to "Keep running (restart if terminates)"

If you want more challenge - try to stop Google Chrome from auto-updating, you will spend much more time ;)

2108) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Merging accounts (Message 1240809)
Posted 3 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You really didn't have to paste 8 threads just to prove that it's been asked before.

The reason to post the links is not to "prove" it was asked.

They are for you (and possibly others) to read what can (and how) and what can't be done in the case like this depending on circumstances.
(consider them as tutorial about "Merging accounts")

2109) Questions and Answers : Getting started : How do I close an account? (Message 1240144)
Posted 2 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Change the name, email, password to something different
e.g. NoOne, NotMe@xyz123.nil, haha987

2110) Questions and Answers : Windows : Cant stop boinc from starting automatically (at startup) (Message 1239517)
Posted 1 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Not that complicated.

As already said: just change the setting and exit BOINC (this saves the setting to the registry)
(! Check in Windows Task Manager or Process Explorer that both boincmgr.exe and boinc.exe exited (boinctray.exe will/may be there - it is normal))

Now you can start BOINC manually (no need to reboot now)

If at the next reboot BOINC starts again - you may have other "Run" shortcuts (e.g. in Startup):
Try Autoruns (it is similar but better than MSConfig or CCleaner)
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902.aspx

First Exit BOINC, then run Autoruns.exe

Find (Ctrl+F):
BOINC

(you may copy (Ctrl+C) any line found that contains "BOINC" string and post it here to ask about it if you need.
You want to uncheck only line(s) about boincmgr.exe
Not the one about boinctray.exe (else setting "Do not run while computer is in use" will not work)

Run Autoruns.exe again just before you reboot to check again the line(s) about boincmgr.exe are unchecked.
)
2111) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI NO LONGER DOWN LOADING (Message 1239499)
Posted 1 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I hope you know to do this "Maintain enough tasks" setting in local preferences (in BOINC Manager)

If you do that on web it will not be used because you already use local preferences:

06/01/2012 8:48:07 AM | | Reading preferences override file

2112) Message boards : Number crunching : lunatics GPU x38g + 296.10 Driver (Message 1239470)
Posted 1 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you don't want to increase the Voltage then try to decrease the MHz (e.g. to stock NVIDIA values or lower)
The errors (false signals) and downclock are symptoms of bad Voltage/MHz combination.

And/or update the Lunatics app (don't wait "to see first how the system behaves and stabilizes before upgrading from x38 to x41")
(Lunatics_x41g_win32_cuda32.exe was released long enough for all of us here to know it is stable.
Do you have evidence of contrary?
And I'm not of the kind that hurry to update everything, I stay at old versions of many programs)

2113) Message boards : Number crunching : My worthless non-GPU adventure (Message 1239380)
Posted 1 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Actually, VLARs *DO* produce more heat. The moment one VLAR is being processed, CPU temps go up for additional 5 degrees C on my computers. Especially the crappy notebook where it goes from normal 80 to almost 90 when processing one or more VLARs (with optimized apps.).


Actually on my AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+ @ 2325 MHz, stock AMD cooler
I don't see a difference.

But on my ATI GPU (AMD Radeon HD 6570 1GB DDR3 - ASUS EAH6570/DI/1GD3(LP))
there is difference - highest temp with VHARs:

This graph is with Optimized apps using "100% CPU time" & GPU:
TThrottle - GPU Mixed AR (Edit).png
http://prikachi.com/images/756/4839756F.png


This computer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4832843


This (somehow long) discussion was about Linux opt apps (links, Instructions.txt, use chmod +x ...):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66123

2114) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Merging accounts (Message 1239357)
Posted 1 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66647
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65331
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65859

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67375
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67210
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67970

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66297
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65309


There are only 2 SETI@home accounts named "Locutus76":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/user_search.php?action=search&search_string=Locutus76&country=any&profile=either&team=either&search_type=date&action=Search

Both are BOINC accounts (Not Classic SETI) so can't be merged.
(You are actively using your other older account, not this one you used to post here)

2115) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Question from an Idiot. (Message 1239344)
Posted 1 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You don't need account at Lunatics to get their software.

Get Installer v0.40 (contains all the current apps) from here:
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9

2116) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI NO LONGER DOWN LOADING (Message 1239310)
Posted 1 Jun 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I don't see any problem in your messages.
Most probably you have lot of work from the other projects.

You may try to increase "Maintain enough tasks to keep busy for at least" XX days

2117) Message boards : Number crunching : Since the last outage... (Message 1238744)
Posted 29 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I must be missing something simple.

Yes, you are missing that there is no such thing as "CUDA units", "GPU work units" (nor "CPU work units").
All the tasks at the server are the same.

The only "exception" are the .vlar tasks which are artificially intentionally not send to NVIDIA GPUs (to avoid lags)

So even if you were requesting new tasks for CPU at the same very moment the result would be the same: "No tasks are available for SETI@home Enhanced"

But I can't imagine this outcome to be "for the past few weeks".

Very probably the problem is this:
5/28/2012 11:49:53 AM | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce 8600M GT (driver version 301.42, device version OpenCL 1.0 CUDA, 256MB, 176MB available)

I will let people which actually use CUDA to suggest how to free some VRAM (e.g. disable Aero ('glass' effect))
(you need maybe 220MB VRAM available)
Very probably to achieve this you'll need to return to older driver (190.x 191.x)

2118) Message boards : Number crunching : My PC have his own life..? ;-) (Message 1238463)
Posted 28 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
1.
If I have a window open (browser or an other program), sometimes the window go passive, it's not longer active (the color on the top change) - I did nothing. ;-)

2.
If I click the mouse one time, the PC think I did it two times - and do something other than I wanted.

The one click mark function of the mouse is active.

Do you mean this as "The one click mark function"?:



2119) Message boards : Number crunching : "No project chosen for work fetch" (Message 1236257)
Posted 25 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Why release new versions if you have to go to lesser versions to have things work correctly??? This is bad coding.

/fail

No need, see the answers in your other thread:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68187&nowrap=true#1236050

2120) Message boards : Number crunching : Riddle me this... frequent HDD accesses (Message 1236063)
Posted 24 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
seems like unnecessary wear-and-tear on my drives.

You might want to read this, specially the part about utilization. In short: it does not matter, at least not for drives, which reach the expected lifetime. Other thing is of course, if it leads to performace issues.

That's a very good link. Surprising noone has followed up on it...

I don't know what you mean by "noone has followed up on it"
but I read this same PDF maybe 2 years ago:

http://research.google.com/archive/disk_failures.pdf

2121) Questions and Answers : Web site : Newbie: No tasks listed on my Seti@home page? (Message 1236055)
Posted 24 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The WU is already beyond its deadline (22 March 2012). Its name is ap_16dc11aa_B5_P0_00350_20120226_09587.wu

Abort it.
You will not receive any credit for it.
The result will be refused by "not usable" message in the "Event Log" (Ctrl+Shift+E)
(sorry, I don't remember the exact wording of "result not usable", it may be "result unusable" or similar)

It's no longer in your tasks list:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6434029

This means the WU is already done OK by at least 2 other computers.

("Timed out - no response" is shown on the web (the example is Not from your computer):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6379672&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=

Your expired task(s) certainly was in this state (maybe for months) but now is gone from the list
(as is already done OK by at least 2 other computers, SETI does not need your result anymore and will refuse to accept it)
)


Yes, 1904356 is my old account. (Is there a way I can transfer my old credits to the new account?)

No.
Only if you can log-in the old account you can attach your computer to it (and abandon the new account).

2122) Message boards : Number crunching : Since the last outage... (Message 1236050)
Posted 24 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
5/24/2012 11:21:32 AM | | [work_fetch] target work buffer: 180.00 + 864000.00 sec


All your "crunchers (with GPU)" have BOINC 7.0.25

The "target work buffer: 180.00 + 864000.00 sec" is not good for BOINC 7.x
(= 0.002 + 10 days)

Set it to e.g. 7 + 3 days

("debug flags" have nothing to do with your low work fetch, the 0.002 days is the problem)

2123) Questions and Answers : Web site : Newbie: No tasks listed on my Seti@home page? (Message 1235993)
Posted 24 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Yes, this is strange

(If you really recently (a day ago) have/had SETI@Home tasks in the computer 6434029

You say something very improbable (or you are very lucky?):
"I am currently processing an Astropulse v505 WU and I finished a Seti@home WU just today"

There are only 3 Astropulse v505 tasks 'in-the-wild' ("Results out in the field"):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html

When (date) did you received those tasks?
What date is shown in "Report deadline" column in BOINC Manager - Tasks tab?

Probably they are/were too old ("timed out") and already "not usable"?
)

Tasks 0
Number of times client has contacted server 19
Last contact 24 May 2012
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6434029


In BOINC Manager -> Projects tab - select SETI@Home - click [Properties] button
What is the Computer ID (is it 6434029)

***

But this is probably your older account:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=1904356

... and your older computers:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?sort=rpc_time&rev=0&show_all=1&userid=1904356

2124) Message boards : Number crunching : Running multiple GPU tasks on one video card. (Message 1235493)
Posted 23 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Honestly I just turn BOINC off when I game. ... When I finish gaming I turn BOINC back on. A simple and not so clever solution. ...

Simple for us but not for our children ;)
I can teach them to exit BOINC before gaming but very probably they will 'forget' to start it afterwards.

'Snooze GPU' from the tray icon is an option against that but only if you/they game less than an hour.

2125) Message boards : Number crunching : Running multiple GPU tasks on one video card. (Message 1235431)
Posted 23 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You could always click the "suspend the GPU when computer is in use" How many more ways do we need to inhibit GPU use?

All of us know about "Suspend the GPU when computer is in use"

But it will stop GPU computing even if you e.g. just browse the forums, copy files, read .pdf, etc.
Computer may be "in use" this way for 8-12 hours.

The GPU small lag is bothering almost only if/when you play games.

"Detect full screen games" exist in e.g. antivirus programs (to not show any messages during games)

2126) Message boards : Number crunching : Running multiple GPU tasks on one video card. (Message 1235419)
Posted 23 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I will have to experiment to see what is good combination of cpu cores and video card tasks so I can crunch and play EVE Online.

The only good combination of a graphics intensive game and GPU crunching is to turn off GPU crunching while you play the game ...


One day I forgot to disable GPU crunching while running WoW. No problems, maybe very small lags time to time... GPU is ATi HD6950 running stock RC AP.

BOINC needs some option to "Detect full screen games" or "Stop using GPU if full screen game detected"

(Who can suggest this to David Anderson ;) )

Yes, we have <exclusive_gpu_app>important.exe</exclusive_gpu_app> but it's not very easy if you have 50 games and need to add new entry for every new game you install.

2127) Message boards : Number crunching : Unannounced Server-Side Change? (Message 1235240)
Posted 23 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Maybe some testing by Eric Korpela?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68127&nowrap=true#1234568

2128) Message boards : Number crunching : lunatics GPU x38g + 296.10 Driver (Message 1235233)
Posted 23 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

So you update the NVIDIA Drivers but not the Lunatics app? ;)
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/downloads/Lunatics%20ReadMev0.40.txt

The current app (inside/included in the Lunatics Installers) is:
Lunatics_x41g_win32_cuda32.exe

2129) Message boards : Number crunching : ..anyone else getting a bunch of "running High Priority " for the last 2 days ? (Message 1235217)
Posted 23 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"Running High Priority" have nothing to do with your computer's errors on CUDA tasks.
("Running High Priority" is Not the cause of the errors, it is consequence of the long running tasks.
The cause for errors is the NVIDIA driver 296.10)

You are victim of the "sleep bug" in the NVIDIA driver 296.10
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6641502&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2429178527


http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67844&nowrap=true#1223973

2130) Questions and Answers : Windows : Error when SETI@Home Starts Up (Message 1234856)
Posted 22 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
http://www.exterminate-it.com/malpedia/file/FlshTray.ocx

Note: The above link gives warning from WOT

@Charles Schiller
This file is in no way connected with SETI or BOINC (and they don't use any ActiveX controls AFAIK).

"flshtray.ocx belongs to product System Tray Icon v.1.0"
http://systemexplorer.net/db/flshtray.ocx.html
http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/netslayer-rat-flshtray-ocx-t1689409.html


And what is the exact meaning of "SETI@Home starts up" in this context?
How do you know it "starts up"?

Explain what you mean in more words (as SETI@Home app can't have any meaningful relation with this file)

2131) Message boards : Number crunching : Tired of babysitting (Message 1234231)
Posted 20 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
i go away to work, come back and all the tasks are unreported.

Absolutely normal, give it 24 hours

Ageless:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67935&nowrap=true#1227429

"
Completed work is reported at the first of:

1) 24 hours before deadline.
2) Connect Every X before deadline.
3) 24 hours after task completion.
4) Immediately if the upload completes later than either 1, 2, or 3 upon completion of the task.
5) On a trickle up message.
6) On a trickle down request.
7) On a server scheduled connection. Used, but I am not certain by which project.
8) On a request for new work.
9) When the user pushes the update button.
10) On a request from an account manager.
11) Report immediately every task, if "No new Task" is set.
12) Report immediately if CPU or network time-of-day override starts in the next 30 minutes. (BOINC 7.0)
13) When minimum work buffer is reached. (BOINC 7.0)
"
2132) Questions and Answers : Windows : a little help for a lot of appreciation (Message 1233025)
Posted 18 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... with enough cpu to do my regular ...

What do you mean by this?
Set to 100% of cores and 100% CPU time and you will see everything "regular" runs at the normal speed
(check by any benchmark while SETI is running or "by feel" using any "regular" program)
SETI apps are running at lowest possible priority so don't have any effect (do not cause slowdown).


my pcu is throttling all over the place from 1 to 50..

That is normal (by your preference "50% CPU time") - SETI runs 1 second, pause 1 second, ...

2133) Message boards : Number crunching : CUDA App Memory Usage (Message 1232117)
Posted 14 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

This is good to read:

Licensed Memory in 32-Bit Windows (by Geoff Chappell)
http://www.geoffchappell.com/notes/windows/license/memory.htm

At the end is the part about Windows XP SP2/SP3

"As much as anyone talks of defective 32-bit drivers that simply assume a 32-bit physical address space, it will forever remain that the most prominent example of such an assumption is what Microsoft itself coded into the 32-bit HAL for Windows XP SP2.
The difference is that Microsoft would have us believe that when Microsoft writes code that makes such an ordinarily fautly assumption, it’s not a defect but a defence. ......."

2134) Questions and Answers : Windows : 6 Core CPU and Dual 670s - CPUs idle... (Message 1232025)
Posted 14 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Yes:

Subscribe to this thread to know the news about "Optimized Applications"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=53611&nowrap=true#1210312

Read:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67407

You need "Installer v0.40 64 bit" (for more info read "Installer v0.40 Readme"):
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9


The process is just to exit BOINC, run the Installer, choose the apps:

(!!! Choose all the apps that you need (e.g. also CUDA)
- you can't use Optimized app for CPU + standard for GPU, choose both in the Installer.
If you forget to select CUDA - your current CUDA tasks will be deleted and no more CUDA tasks will be downloaded.
)




Pros:
150-200% faster CPU processing
Less errors on CUDA (+ small ~5-10% better speed)
You can run 2 or more CUDA tasks simultaneously on every of your 2 GPUs (by manual edit of one file)
(your GeForce GTX 670 is capable of maybe 3 tasks (= 6 total running for your 2 GPUs))

Cons:
No graphics/screensaver
You will have to check here from time to time when new apps are released to change them (by new Installer) - unlike the standard apps they will not be updated automatically.

2135) Questions and Answers : Windows : 6 Core CPU and Dual 670s - CPUs idle... (Message 1232002)
Posted 14 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Maybe not enough tasks are downloaded so the CPU have work only from time to time.

Try to increase this (the default is maybe 0.2 days?):
Maintain enough tasks to keep busy for at least 3 days
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global


To check that the Computer is/was working on CPU tasks (SETI@home Enhanced v6.03)

In BOINC Manager hit Ctrl+Shift+E
[Copy all messages]
Paste them to/in Notepad
Search for string:
using setiathome_enhanced version 603

(the full log for months back is in the files stdoutdae.txt and stdoutdae.old)

2136) Questions and Answers : Windows : 6 Core CPU and Dual 670s - CPUs idle... (Message 1231992)
Posted 14 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3930K CPU @ 3.20GHz machine is ID: 6651066

Look the link again:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6651066&offset=20&show_names=0&state=2&appid=

(since you say "cuda tasks" I looked at the Computer with CUDA GPU (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670) and this is the i7-3930K machine)

(and of course no one except you can see the names like "midianx6", always refer to your Computers here by ID number, not name)

2137) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Gostaria de ver o gráfico (Message 1231987)
Posted 14 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Gostaria de ver o gráfico a funcionar sempre que o desejasse. Poderá ser?
~ I would like to see the chart and running whenever he wished. Could it be?

The Google Translate is not very clear of what you exactly want but maybe this is it:

Select an active (Running) CPU task (i.e. SETI@home Enhanced v6.03 task)
Then click "Display graphics"

(the "SETI@home Enhanced v6.10 (cuda_fermi)" application have no graphics (screensaver) part)

And never post your email! (the result of this will be only spam, nobody will answer to the email except spammers)

2138) Questions and Answers : Windows : 6 Core CPU and Dual 670s - CPUs idle... (Message 1231983)
Posted 14 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
is there a way to get my CPU working on SETI as well?

But the CPU is working on SETI - you have reported completed CPU tasks (SETI@home Enhanced v6.03) on 14 May 2012 | 12:31:14 UTC
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6651066&offset=20&show_names=0&state=2&appid=

2139) Message boards : Number crunching : Inconclusive Work Units Running AP Ver 6 (Message 1231765)
Posted 13 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I don't think you can access the result files "sent back from the wingman"
(you probably can check the stderr but this is useless for validation)

And really - if they have known bug in their previous app and already have (supposedly) fixed and "sufficiently" tested new app
it will be better for someone that notices errors on his tasks with the old app to:
A) change to the new app; or
B) stop using the old (any) app until the new app is double or triple "sufficiently" tested

2140) Message boards : Number crunching : CUDA App Memory Usage (Message 1231762)
Posted 13 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... to/from disk!?
Oh, I didn't expected this!
I expected something like video card (directed by driver) knows which parts/pages of VRAM have to be currently "exposed" in/through the physical address range and "just do it" ;)
(as if the VRAM is 1/2 size and maps "the old way")
Even no memcopy, more like flipbuffers.

Why is disk involved?

2141) Message boards : Number crunching : Inverse Data Xmission with No Limits Correlation???? (Message 1231758)
Posted 13 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I think that they changed both the download server (georgem) and some router (I don't remember who/where said something about new router)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67989

2142) Message boards : Number crunching : CUDA App Memory Usage (Message 1231751)
Posted 13 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
so can switch in different areas

You mean that different parts (pages?) of VRAM are dynamically mapped to be visible at different times in the same address space/range?
Can the driver be forced to use smaller address range (smaller "hole") into which to map e.g. 1/4 of the VRAM and not 1/2 (even if it may be slower)?


and if you use bigger than some amount ...

"bigger than some amount" of what? ;) (I really don't know)

2143) Message boards : Number crunching : CUDA App Memory Usage (Message 1231734)
Posted 13 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

But his video has 1 GB VRAM and still only 0.5 GB of System RAM are hidden/not used:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5108663

How that happens?

Wembley, can you run SIV and show us PCI BARs





2144) Message boards : Number crunching : CUDA App Memory Usage (Message 1231712)
Posted 13 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Where did you check?
There is no option to disable DEP (and this way also PAE on "new" CPUs) unless you edit directly boot.ini




(but if the CPU is older, e.g. P4 (which does not qualify as made 2006+) and have no hardware support for DEP
you are right - you have software DEP and no PAE enabled)

2145) Message boards : Number crunching : CUDA App Memory Usage (Message 1231695)
Posted 13 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Yes, it has only 1 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 (driver 191.07)

I just say that probably >90% of users that run 32 bit Windows use PAE without even knowing that it is enabled.
(DEP is enabled by default after Win XP SP2 and today's CPUs support hardware DEP, so PAE is ON by default on most computers)

2146) Message boards : Number crunching : CUDA App Memory Usage (Message 1231685)
Posted 13 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... so really PAE is superseded on Windows and probably not supported through all (or many) drivers.

Jason

My CPU is made ~2006 and supports DEP.
Win XP32 SP3 supports DEP and PAE
/NOEXECUTE switch in boot.ini enables DEP and PAE as you can see on the screenshot.

I don't experience random crashes so it seems that current (~2006+) hardware and drivers are PAE compatible.

2147) Message boards : Number crunching : CUDA App Memory Usage (Message 1231657)
Posted 13 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Can you post the contents of the boot.ini file?

;
;Warning: Boot.ini is used on Windows XP and earlier operating systems.
;Warning: Use BCDEDIT.exe to modify Windows Vista boot options.
;
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS
;
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional (SP3)" /FASTDETECT /NoExecute=OptOut /usepmtimer
c:\ ="Microsoft Windows 98 SE" 


"The PAE kernel can be enabled automatically without the /PAE switch present in the boot entry if the system has DEP enabled (/NOEXECUTE switch is present)
or the system processor supports hardware-enforced DEP.
Presence of the /NOEXECUTE switch on a system with a processor that supports hardware-enforced DEP implies the /PAE switch":
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg487503.aspx
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/899298
http://www.techspot.com/community/topics/change-in-boot-ini.32537/





Switch options for Boot.ini
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/833721

I don't know if the /3GB switch will permit the use of System RAM that is hidden under the VRAM addresses (is that System RAM not used for anything?)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/171793

Is it possible on 32 bit Windows to force VRAM to be mapped to addresses over 4 GB?

2148) Message boards : Number crunching : "No usable GPUs found" (Message 1231619)
Posted 13 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

11.12 for XP32 is 57.7 MB (60 513 104 bytes) (11-12_xp32_dd_ccc_ocl.exe)
Because it (unlike 12-3_xp32_dd_ccc.exe):
- have only English help (ccc-help-en-US.msi) (saves ~22 MB)
- does Not include dotnetfx.exe (23 MB)
- does Not include Win64\ATICatalystInstallManager.msi (6 MB)

2149) Questions and Answers : Windows : Not reporting or requesting tasks (Message 1231592)
Posted 13 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
My cache values are non-zero

The "cache values" are total work for all projects, not per project.


my current WUs are below the buffer value

How do you know/measure this?

2150) Questions and Answers : Windows : More Bandwidth? Downloads seem much faster... (Message 1230820)
Posted 12 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
or set per PC...

Why not?
It can:
1) by local preferences
2) by "separate preferences for home", etc.

I have some PC's with 2 cores, and others with 24...

It doesn't matter (because you don't need "cache per core")

10+10 days set for my slower CPU is 2-4 tasks
7+7 days set for my faster CPU is ~50 tasks
1 day of work for fast GPU may be 1000 tasks

You need to just set the calendar days.

You say to BOINC: "I want "reserve" tasks on-board to keep this machine with work for XX days"
BOINC knows how many tasks are completed per day by this computer so knows what means "1 day work" for it.
It doesn't matter how the computer completed those 10 or 1000 tasks per day.
(e.g. using 24 cores for only 1 hour a day, or 1 fast GPU running all the time)

I suspect you run this computer for 8 hours/day or you use it for other CPU heavy programs.

(your Computers are hidden so we can't check CPU time vs Run time)

2151) Questions and Answers : Getting started : How do I defer results getting reported? (Message 1230727)
Posted 12 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You may propose changes/new value (-1) for <report_results_immediately>

(I don't know how, maybe direct email to David Anderson
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/view_profile.php?userid=432107

He posted his email here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=61471&nowrap=true#1037452
)

As you know now it is:
<report_results_immediately>0|1</report_results_immediately>
0 == Default value/behaviour (report results on several events)
1 == Force report_results_immediately

Propose:
-1 == Force Do_NOT_report_results_immediately (report results ONLY on events, e.g. "24 hours before deadline", "On a request for new work", ...)

Will this be accepted as needed/feasible I don't know.

2152) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation Error (Message 1229467)
Posted 9 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have downloaded the AMD optimized app from the Lunatics site but I have not yet installed it.

What do you mean by "the AMD optimized app", all the current apps are in the Installer v0.40
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9

You need only this file:
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;sa=dlview;id=330

And read the Installer v0.40 Readme:
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/downloads/Lunatics%20ReadMev0.40.txt


Just choose the proper apps - AMD for CPU and (if you wish) apps for ATI GPU (on the next page):



2153) Questions and Answers : Windows : Long validation time (Message 1229460)
Posted 9 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I like the info about my IP you posted ...

Only you see your IP on this picture, everyone sees his own IP.

The picture is dynamic and generated (by danasoft.com) at the moment your browser want to get it.
Since any site that send anything (e.g. picture) to you knows the delivery address (your IP, the Proxy IP) the picture is generated to show your info.
http://www.danasoft.com/
http://www.danasoft.com/aboutdanasoft.php

2154) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation Error (Message 1228984)
Posted 8 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Fixes for "- exit code -1073741819 (0xc0000005)":
http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?language=1&view=98


Check also for overheated CPU, PSU voltages. You may use SIV to check:
http://rh-software.com/

Temperature Monitoring Programs:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292


Do your system crash also on other CPU intensive tasks?

Very intensive CPU/RAM tests:

LinX (Linpack)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?201670-LinX-A-simple-Linpack-interface

LinX - Page 34 - LinX 0.6.4 - new library (10.3.10.017)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?201670-LinX-A-simple-Linpack-interface/page34

IntelBurnTest (Linpack)
http://www.xgamingstudio.com/forum/showthread.php?9-RELEASE-IntelBurnTest

! One of these packages (LinX and/or IntelBurnTest) have fixed-for-AMD Linpack EXEs (only a few bytes difference/patch)
Copy the files to the other package and rename accordingly to make it work on AMD CPU
IIRC I did the same copy but don't remember which way (I think IntelBurnTest (linpack32.exe) -> LinX (linpack_xeon32.exe))

!!! Be sure to watch closely the CPU Temperature and PSU voltages while running LinX / IntelBurnTest (Linpack) so you can stop them if in trouble!

2155) Questions and Answers : Windows : Inconclusive results (Message 1228967)
Posted 8 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Automatically.

The same task is sent to somebody else (Max to 10 Computers as you can see by "max # of error/total/success tasks 5, 10, 5"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=981887803
)

... until at least 2 results match.

2156) Questions and Answers : Windows : Long validation time (Message 1228958)
Posted 8 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Not your fault.

Look here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html

Results returned and awaiting validation 3,358,055 2

Yesterday the "2" was ~12000 (meaning - more than 12000 Astropulse Results were in stuck state)
Looks like they at last (after many months with this "stuck" problem)
run some fixing script to give credit and remove the stuck Astropulse Results.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67920&nowrap=true#1228764

You already posted here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67980

2157) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : CUDA GPU workunits -- processing errors (Message 1228538)
Posted 7 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

At the top-left there is search box.
Put the following words in it to find how well this bug is known:
sleep bug

2158) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.40 release notes (Message 1228493)
Posted 6 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
How about I just leave things as they are and see if they work better on the new card?

If you "leave things as they are" (= wrong apps) you will generate errors.

Either return to stock/standard apps (Remove/Add project)
or run again the Lunatics Installer (Lunatics_Win64_v0.40_setup.exe)
and choose the proper apps - AMD for CPU and nothing for GPU




P.S.
ap_6.01r557_SSE2_331_AVX.exe work OK and is faster on my AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67407&nowrap=true#1213064

2159) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Not receiving cuda work!!! (Message 1228462)
Posted 6 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

From reading the forums: good old drivers to use/try are: 190.38 , 191.x , 266.58

For GeForce 8400 GS you don't need any newer driver than 266.58 unless there is specific fix for a game you play or some other issue you have.
(for this info (what is fixed/added/broken) read the "Release notes" of any driver).

Some info in these posts:
(as always: use the link second time if the first click do not go to the needed post)

Josef W. Segur:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67649&nowrap=true#1216867

jason_gee:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67605&nowrap=true#1215464


http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60191&nowrap=true#1192809
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60191&nowrap=true#1118623

2160) Questions and Answers : Windows : Weird Threat (Message 1227574)
Posted 5 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

But the link:
http://www.brainsmashr.com/BOINC/counter_detailed.php?id=8819896project=setistyle=14

... is not blacklisted by any "blacklister" ;)
https://www.virustotal.com/url/734405516672e0446a3142c5e54518a71ded5fd2a0cb933fb977a2bec0321cc2/analysis/1336188120/

http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/www.brainsmashr.com
http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/http%3A//www.brainsmashr.com/BOINC/counter_detailed.php%3Fid%3D8819896project%3Dsetistyle%3D14
http://safeweb.norton.com/report/show?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brainsmashr.com%2FBOINC%2Fcounter_detailed.php%3Fid%3D8819896project%3Dsetistyle%3D14
http://linkscanner.explabs.com/linkscanner/avg/checksite.aspx?NS=ChkOnly&SRC=apps.explabs.com&CS=http://www.brainsmashr.com/boinc/counter_detailed.php?id=8819896project=setistyle=14

2161) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.40 release notes (Message 1227535)
Posted 5 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Am I missing something simple?

1) "Temporarily failed download" is quite usual when the Internet link at the servers is overloaded (which is that way most of the time and everybody have this "problem" with downloads):
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets

2) I don't know what you mean by "I have a nvidia 4200" but if you talk about Computer 6560195
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6560195

... it have:
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 630 Processor [Family 16 Model 5 Stepping 2]
Coprocessors AMD ATI Radeon HD 2300/2400/3200 (RV610) (256MB) driver: 1.4.1720
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)

So:

a) For your CPU errors: From Lunatics ReadMe.txt (found in ...\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\docs\) and also available on the Lunatics site:
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;sa=dlview;id=328
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/downloads/Lunatics%20ReadMev0.40.txt

"ATTENTION: If you have an AMD CPU running under 64 bit, you HAVE to choose the
MB application labeled 'AMD', as the others will not work.

If you are running an AMD CPU under 32 bit non-AMD labeled apps may or may not
work. If the app is incompatible, you are likely to see tasks erroring out very
quickly with 'output file absent' recorded in the log."

b) You say "I saw on the thread that 12.4 doesn't work well with lunatic, so I installed 12.1"
but the version "1.4.1720" is Not Catalyst 12.1 (= 1.4.1664)
http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet.htm

c) But the driver version may not matter (i.e. you can stay on 1.4.1720 if it works)
because for that older GPU the only app in the Lunatics Installer that may work is:
AP6_win_x86_SSE_Brook_r555

2162) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Not receiving cuda work!!! (Message 1227448)
Posted 4 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If "the event log shows it asking for GPU work" just wait.
BOINC will ask again in 5 minutes.

Depending on your "luck" you may get task for the GPU after 5 minutes or an hour.
Since there is no difference between "CPU task" and "GPU task" if the server have tasks "on hand" (100 tasks every 2 seconds) it will label them "for your GPU" and send.

It just happens that your (anybody's) BOINC asks for work in the last "part" of those 2 seconds and these 100 tasks are already given to others.
After less that a second server again have tasks "on hand".

2163) Message boards : Number crunching : Actual core speed discrepancy...or just my stupidity? (Message 1226726)
Posted 3 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

:)) I never heard of this (clothes company??)

The author of Core Temp calls this Tjunction Max or Tj. Max
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/howitworks.html

It is supposedly the Maximum Temperature at which the Junctions inside the CPU still can operate without melting/burning.

2164) Message boards : Number crunching : Actual core speed discrepancy...or just my stupidity? (Message 1226704)
Posted 3 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It's running around 70 degrees according to Core Temp 1.0, and around 60 degrees on Throttlestop's temp monitors.
There is always about a 10 degree discrepancy between the two programs so I don't know which is accurate, or if either of them is accurate for that matter.

That is OK, the program just don't know the proper TJMax.

Get Real Temp
http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/

It shows "Distance to TJMax" which is the real (and only) raw value reported by Intel CPUs
(Intel CPUs never report "I have temperature of XX°C", Intel CPUs always report "I am ZZ°C down from the Max allowed")

"RealTemp is a temperature monitoring program designed for all Intel single Core, Dual Core and Quad Core processors.
Each core on these processors has a digital thermal sensor (DTS) that reports temperature data relative to TjMax which is the safe maximum operating core temperature for the CPU.

If the value of TJMax is known:
Absolute Core Temperature = TJMax - DTS
"
http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/docs.php


So I say:
You can safely rely on "Distance to TJMax" to know how far is the CPU from the Max.


All programs read from DTS the value of "Distance to TJMax" (on Intel CPUs, AMD is different).
The little problem is if they don't know the proper TJMax they just calculate wrong:
T = TJMax - DTS

I'll bet CoreTemp thinks the TJMax is 100°C (so 70°C = 100°C - 30°C)
and Throttlestop thinks the TJMax is 90°C (so 60°C = 90°C - 30°C)

See, both know that the CPU is full 30°C from the Max (whatever it is)
(you start to worry if the Distance is 5-10°C)

P.S.
If you manually change TJMax to 150°C (which only changes some value/variable in the program and nothing more, safe to try)
the temperature will be reported as:
120°C = 150°C - 30°C

Again - nothing to worry about, the value 30°C is the important number.

2165) Message boards : Number crunching : Astropulse V6, how do I get on the bandwagon? (Message 1226491)
Posted 3 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

This message:
1/05/2012 12:06:22 PM | SETI@home | File referenced in app_info.xml does not exist: AK_v8b_win_SSE_p3.exe

... shows that:
- The installer (Lunatics_Win32_v0.40_setup.exe) removed the old AK_v8b_win_SSE_p3.exe and (probably) put the new AK_v8b2_win_SSSE3x.exe
- But the installer was unsuccessful in building the new app_info.xml (old app_info.xml is still in use)

Did you Stop/Exit BOINC before the install?
Did you possibly had (during the install) app_info.xml opened in some editor (e.g. Word - don't use it for this) which locks the opened files?


So, to manually check/fix the problem:
1) What .exe files do you see in ...\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\ (the same place where you see app_info.xml)
2) Do you see several .aistub files (e.g. AKv8b2_SSSE3x.aistub) there?

If the .exe and .aistub files are there:
a) Stop/Exit BOINC
b) run aimerge.cmd
c) check the new contents of app_info.xml (made by aimerge.cmd - merges all the .aistub files into new app_info.xml)
d) if app_info.xml is OK - Start BOINC

2166) Message boards : Number crunching : Scheduler request failed: Failure when receiving data from the peer (Message 1226482)
Posted 3 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"The retry offsets in 6.12.34" can be alleviated using the "Auto Retry" feature in "BOINC Status" of SIV - System Information Viewer:
http://rh-software.com/

2167) Message boards : Number crunching : Progress Bar Remaining at 0.000% on GPU WU (Message 1226478)
Posted 3 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

It's not true that "WU are processing", counter in BOINC Manager is ticking but that's all, no "processing" is done (check GPU load and temperature to be sure)

You never completed any ATI task - "Number of tasks completed 0":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=6637061

This cycle/loop is strange:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2420702674

Maybe your antivirus is intervening?
Disable your antivirus for a while (or exclude BOINC Data directory) when your next ATI task try to run.

(ATI task becomes stuck at or after "Info : Building Program (clBuildProgram):main kernels: OK code 0"
I think this line indicates when the ATI app try to make (compile, generate) one .exe file.
When this stage (seconds?) is completed (% done > 0) (compile is done only once on the first run of the app) you may re-enable the antivirus.
)

Also check the logs and quarantined files of the antivirus.

***

The info, which skildude described as "IIRC the bandwidth being 128 bit instead of the needed 256",
is about "The ATI MB application will not work on ATI cards with workgroup size 128 (e.g. HD43xx)." and is in the first post here (and other places as Readme files of/in the installer):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67407

2168) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : CUDA apps continue to run on CPU in suspend mode (Message 1226460)
Posted 3 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

One of the tasks that started with "device 1 is emulation device and should not be used" but then continued (Restarted at 21.09 percent) normally (i.e. "using CUDA accelerated device GeForce 9400 GT"):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2418530649

Advanced search for emulation device in the last 6 months shows only 3 results (not counting the one from this thread) 2 of which are yours:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67194&nowrap=true#1204021
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67225&nowrap=true#1207308
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65352&nowrap=true#1217254

I don't know why people go for the "latest" driver if the previous worked OK
I also don't think that NVIDIA will add new features in the new drivers for older hardware (as GeForce 9400 GT) which is no longer in production.

266.58 was the driver recommended for a long time by many users here.
Which is the new "best" version? (meaning - no bugs noticed by anyone here)

2169) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : What GPU's do the experts recommend? (Message 1226301)
Posted 2 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

In fact a week ago I read this article (use Google Translate if you need):
http://www.easycom.com.ua/video/asus_eah6570_di_1gd3_lp/

The card (ASUS EAH6570/DI/1GD3(LP) - AMD Radeon HD 6570)
is at 54°C at full load:




43 W difference in power consumption between Idle and Full Load (FurMark):
(for your GT 430 is shown 56 W difference)




And overclocks well:




(For your cards the review is here:
http://www.easycom.com.ua/video/asus_engt430_di_1gd3_lp/?lang=ru

Google Translated:
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.easycom.com.ua%2Fvideo%2Fasus_engt430_di_1gd3_lp%2F%3Flang%3Dru

There are detailed photos of dismantled card.
)

2170) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : CUDA apps continue to run on CPU in suspend mode (Message 1226271)
Posted 2 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
when Boinc is in "suspend" mode (whether I put Boinc into suspend or a rule puts it into suspend, it does not matter).

So you either:
- from icon menu choose Snooze or Snooze GPU
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/The_BOINC_Manager#The_BOINC_Manager_icon_and_menu

- from Activity Menu choose Suspend or Suspend GPU
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Advanced_view#BOINC_Manager_Menus

- use cc_config.xml with <exclusive_gpu_app>important.exe</exclusive_gpu_app>
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration
http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Cc_config.xml
http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?language=1&view=91

- have preference to "Suspend GPU work while computer is in use" or other similar


Instead of stopping completely, CUDA will instead quit running on the GPU and begin running on the CPU.

Strange behavior.
So you see in Windows Task Manager or Process Explorer that the CUDA app .exe starts using 100% of a core (~50% CPU in your case)?

If this happens again - look in stderr.txt (in slots directory) to see are there messages similar to these:
setiathome_CUDA: No CUDA devices found
setiathome_CUDA: Found 0 CUDA device(s):
setiathome_CUDA: CUDA Device 1 specified, checking...
Device cannot be used
SETI@home NOT using CUDA, falling back on host CPU processing


2) When CUDA applications are running on the CPU during times that they are not supposed to be running at all, they ignore the CPU settings of "max 20% CPU", and they use up to 100% on all cores.

Yes, this have to be true as BOINC applies the setting of "max 20% CPU" only to CPU tasks/apps.

We may consider this as "lack of feature" or bug in BOINC but I don't know is it possible for BOINC to detect this.
BOINC see that CUDA app is running and don't know it have trouble to use CUDA and is "falling back on host CPU processing".

There are in fact projects with not very efficient GPU apps that use "normally" a big deal of CPU along with the computing on GPU (so "GPU app" have high CPU usage at all "normal" times)


So far there has been no damage because I have good cooling and I was near by and I heard the fans running at full speed and I intervened (I do not know what the temp was).

To "know what the temp is" use one or several of these Temperature Monitoring Programs:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292

Did you clean the dust/fur in the computer/fan/heatsink lately?


Other may not have the same luck.

By "Other" you mean "Other people"?
Most people use 100% CPU all the time (for years) especially if they "have good cooling".

If this is not laptop and the CPU can't run at 100% for a long time you in fact may have problem with cooling (dust, dried thermal compound, fan lubrication, ...)
if the Temperature of the CPU go near to TJMax (e.g. 5-10°C to TJMax).

2171) Questions and Answers : Windows : New user, would love some help (Message 1225968)
Posted 2 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Once you have selected an active task, on the left there will be a button that reads "Display graphics";
However, that button is always greyed out for me.

Select an active (Running) CPU task (i.e. SETI@home Enhanced v6.03 task)
Then the "Display graphics" button will be active.

(the "SETI@home Enhanced v6.10 (cuda_fermi)" application have no graphics (screensaver) part)

2172) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : CUDA apps continue to run on CPU in suspend mode (Message 1225942)
Posted 2 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

What means "happens under suspension"?
(and where do you look to see what happens)

When you say "cook my CPU" - is this a laptop? What is the CPU temp?

OK, try "another project" (that runs on CUDA/GPU), I will be surprised if "this" depends on project.

The CUDA app (of any project) will either:
- error out/crash the task (when CUDA disappears)
- stop computing until CUDA is available again
- "fall back on host CPU processing" as SETI app do

2173) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : What GPU's do the experts recommend? (Message 1225916)
Posted 1 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So i installed those 3 ENGT 430's and they are working great. thanks for the recommendation :)

Will you "give me back" ;) some info?

I intent to buy this card (mainly for games):
http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/AMD_Series/EAH6570DI1GD3LP/

Since it have almost the same cooler (heatsink/fan) I wonder how well this ASUS solution cools the GPU.

So what is the temperature (°C) of the GPU at load?

(e.g. screenshot of GPU-Z - Sensors tab, will show also % load, fan speed, etc.
To post the screenshot - use the "photo" icon in the top-right of GPU-Z
and use [Upload to ...] button to get a link and use this way:



)


I noticed that BOINC did not detect it as a usable GPU (I didn't try the lunatics app).

"lunatics app" (or any other) can't use the GPU if BOINC did not detect it first.

2174) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : CUDA apps continue to run on CPU in suspend mode (Message 1225898)
Posted 1 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This also happens if windows puts the monitor to sleep.

Why "also", it have to happen only when "windows puts the monitor to sleep" due to bug in NVIDIA driver 296.10

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67844&nowrap=true#1223973

2175) Message boards : Number crunching : Astropulse V6, how do I get on the bandwagon? (Message 1225555)
Posted 1 May 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

1) Which computer ID are you talking about?

2) What .exe files do you see in ...\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\

3) What are the contents of app_info.xml

Try to copy the exact messages, don't rephrase them in your own words

2176) Questions and Answers : Getting started : I am new some help (Message 1225345)
Posted 30 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

This will happen automatically.
Just wait a few hours or a day - there seems to be a temporary server problem:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67771&nowrap=true#1225167

Look at "Results ready to send":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html

Look at the green dropping down:
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets

2177) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI Astropulse Cruncher - help me choose (Message 1225267)
Posted 30 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It also wiped-out all the work units, except for one AP work unit, that had been downloaded.

Maybe because you forget to select the proper SSE3 (AMD) app?
Or the CUDA app?



2178) Questions and Answers : Getting started : How do I defer results getting reported? (Message 1225266)
Posted 30 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Is it possible that you have tasks that are over or very near the deadline?
(and you don't forget to "Read local prefs file" after manual edit?)

And "reporting results every 5 minutes" is not coupled with asking for tasks?

2179) Message boards : Number crunching : Astropulse V6, how do I get on the bandwagon? (Message 1225259)
Posted 30 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Did you run the Lunatics Installer v0.40 and choose the proper apps?:
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9

2180) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : What GPU's do the experts recommend? (Message 1225189)
Posted 30 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... there are different name brands before the GeForce name, what is that about? I thought NVIDIA makes all these GPU's, do other companies make their own versions using the base technology of the GPU? Thanks..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=gt+440&x=0&y=0

That's the same as with motherboards - a few companies make the chipsets/CPUs (Intel/AMD/NVIDIA/VIA/...)
and "around" these chips other companies make the motherboards (ASUS/ASRock/GIGABYTE/MSI/EVGA/...)

The same for video cards - NVIDIA and ATI-AMD make (design) only the chips (GPU).
(The actual chip production may occur in other factory, e.g. TSMC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TSMC
"Various fabless high-tech companies such as Applied Micro Circuits Corporation, Qualcomm, Altera, Broadcom, Conexant, Marvell, NVIDIA, and VIA are customers of TSMC.
Some fab-owning companies like Intel also outsource some production to TSMC"
)

Other companies (often the same that make also motherboards) make the video cards
(and they buy Video RAM and other supporting (e.g. sensor, voltage regulators) chips elsewhere)

According to this table GT 430 and GT 440 are almost the same:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_400_Series#Products

2181) Questions and Answers : Getting started : CPU + time = ? Internet bandwidth (Message 1225161)
Posted 30 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Since ALF is not only funny and one of my favorite TV series
(aired numerous times here in Bulgaria since early 1990s)
but is also an acronym for Alien Life Form:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALF_(TV_series)

... I thought it appropriate to use his picture and quote here at SETI ;)
(Not that he is too "Intelligent")

2182) Questions and Answers : Getting started : How do I defer results getting reported? (Message 1225153)
Posted 30 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have connect every 8 days set to force shorties to get run as they arrive so I have enought WUs cached to keep busy when the server is down. I will see what happens if I set zero tomorrow.

With BOINC 7.0.25 "zero" for the "connect every/Maintain enough tasks to keep busy" is not good, it will not ask for work at all.
(with 8+20 it will wait for the cache to be < 8 days, then will ask for 20 days)

John McLeod VII say "The task switch interval is part of the computation of the computation deadline, but not part of the computation of when to actually report."
so you can use this setting "to force shorties to get run as they arrive" instead.

Try "Switch between tasks every 14400 minutes" (which should make the shorties run at "high priority")

2183) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : What GPU's do the experts recommend? (Message 1225126)
Posted 29 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Will look for something else for the old p4 later, since i need something that can work with a 250W PSU. the Zotac gt430 PCI i was looking at needs a 300W so cant use that.

GT 430 uses ~50 W at full load:
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2011-entry-level-graphics/Power-Consumption,2884.html

If the rest of the system uses <150-200 W (e.g. you don't use CPU for crunching) GT 430 may work.
But the Zotac model (Zotac ZT-40605-10L nVidia GeForce GT430 512MB DDR3 VGA/DVI/HDMI PCI Video Card)
looks too big with its passive cooler to fit in an old computer case?

2184) Questions and Answers : Getting started : How do I defer results getting reported? (Message 1225119)
Posted 29 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
29/04/2012 17:38:03 | SETI@home | Reporting 4 completed tasks, not requesting new tasks
29/04/2012 17:39:05 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed

Since BOINC makes Scheduler requests only to Report completed tasks (and not requesting new tasks)
BOINC thinks it will not have Internet connection in the next XX days and is in a hurry to report while it can.

This depends on "Maintain enough tasks to keep busy for at least 10 days"
(if the deadline is in the next 10 days BOINC will report immediately)

So change your cache from e.g. 10+10 to 8+12 or 5+15 days.
(the values >10 for the second setting are not possible with the GUI (BOINC Manager) but it's possible to edit directly:
<work_buf_additional_days>XX.000000</work_buf_additional_days>
in global_prefs_override.xml
)

Also the setting "Switch between tasks every XYZ minutes" may affect this if set to big values (e.g. 15000 minutes)

2185) Questions and Answers : Getting started : CPU + time = ? Internet bandwidth (Message 1225110)
Posted 29 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

:)
ALF is the funny creature from the TV series:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoL5yCCYXX8

Isn't this character famous in Australia too?

For the Quote look here:
http://movie.subtitlr.com/subtitle/show/355295#line231

And hear here:
ALF S02E22 @ 13:13 - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpsw7YaE2sQ

2186) Questions and Answers : Getting started : CPU + time = ? Internet bandwidth (Message 1224773)
Posted 29 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

SETI@home Enhanced tasks are ~350 KB files (result files are ~20-30 KB for upload)
AstroPulse tasks are ~8 MB files (result files are ~5-10 KB for upload)

Count the number of tasks per day and you can find the total GB/month


Or use the small program NetMeter (gives graphic of current up/down and sum per several periods):
http://www.metal-machine.de/readerror/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item26

(measures all the traffic, not only BOINC)


You can also use the setting:
Transfer at most --- Mbytes every --- days
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global

2187) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : What GPU's do the experts recommend? (Message 1224684)
Posted 29 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Almost doesn't matter, maybe < 5% difference from RAM/CPU speed (transfers of data RAM <-> VideoRAM)

For "your own usage" GPU - see this list (ordered by "similar overall performance")
Graphics Card Hierarchy Chart
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

Benchmarks used:
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2012-vga-gpgpu/benchmarks,135.html

2188) Questions and Answers : Preferences : SETI@home Message from server: SETI@home Enhanced needs 32.00MB more disk space. You currently have 0.00 MB available and it needs 32.00 MB. (Message 1224678)
Posted 29 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

What is the size of your BOINC Data directory?
Check for big junk files in it.

I made an experiment, I put 1.35 GB movie file in:
...\BOINC\projects\orbit.psi.edu_oah\

The results:

BOINC Manager - Disk Usage - 1 - Normal.png




BOINC Manager - Disk Usage - 2 - Fake.png




(The "junk" file have to be in the directory of some of the projects,
if put in BOINC program or directly in BOINC Data directory it have no effect)

2189) Message boards : Number crunching : Inconclusive Work Units Running AP Ver 6 (Message 1223976)
Posted 27 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Richard Haselgrove:

Harvested (just in case):

ap_24ja12ah_B4_P1_00304_20120410_15850.wu (Khangollo)
ap_13my11aa_B4_P0_00259_20120422_05930.wu (Cliff)
ap_01ja12ab_B0_P1_00268_20120421_27002.wu (X-Files 27)

Off-topic:
Do you manually compute the link to get the WUs or you have some program/script?
Can you share the program/script?
(IIRC to find the link it was something with MD5 of the WU name then get part of the MD5 numbers to find the directory?)

2190) Message boards : Number crunching : Noob questions on processing and errors... (Message 1223973)
Posted 27 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Looks like the sleeping bug in the NVIDIA driver 296.10
Make/set your DVI-connected monitor to not sleep automatically (turn it off manually)
or go to NVIDIA driver 290.xx or 301.xx

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67648
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67231


Stderr output
<core_client_version>7.0.25</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
Maximum elapsed time exceeded
</message>
<stderr_txt>
setiathome_CUDA: No CUDA devices found
setiathome_CUDA: Found 0 CUDA device(s):
setiathome_CUDA: CUDA Device 1 specified, checking...
Device cannot be used
SETI@home NOT using CUDA, falling back on host CPU processing

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2405107216

2191) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : What GPU's do the experts recommend? (Message 1223791)
Posted 27 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
On your signal :)

;) My signal is "Yellow", wait for several other people's responses before you get "Green" signal :)

Yes, the Lunatics' optimized CUDA apps are compatible with all generations of NVIDIA CUDA-capable GPUs
(unlike stock SETI which supplies 3 different apps to different CUDA GPUs/drivers)

2192) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : What GPU's do the experts recommend? (Message 1223781)
Posted 27 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I am presently only familiar with CUDA because I have a GeForce 8800GTX in the system I am using right now, and that crunches using CUDA.

I noticed in the third and fourth links (the newegg.com links) that these cards are Fermi, what is the difference?

You can't really find a "difference" as they are names of different things.

"Fermi" is the codename of NVIDIA GeForce 4xx/5xx GPUs
CUDA is the name of NVIDIA's computing technology present in all NVIDIA GPUs since 8xxx

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_400_Series

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA


EDIT:
The problem for 2 GPUs in one system or more powerful GPUs to buy is the 300/250 W PSUs and space on the motherboard/case.
Wait for other people to comment on this.

(or post/ask in "Number crunching" (with link to this thread), you will get more/faster answers)

2193) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : What GPU's do the experts recommend? (Message 1223749)
Posted 26 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Just be sure to ask here again before you buy certain model.

I think in your case the optimum will be NVIDIA GeForce GT 430
(Lower - not good for SETI crunching (GT 520 is lower), Higher - not good for your PSUs and mechanical space)

(For PCI (not express)/AGP CUDA cards look:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65362
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64196
)


Something like that (cost ~$60) (the first have faster memory):

http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/NVIDIA_Series/ENGT430DI1GD3LP/
http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/NVIDIA_Series/ENGT430DI1GD3MGLP/

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121397
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121471




2194) Questions and Answers : Getting started : I am new some help (Message 1220535)
Posted 20 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

As Gundolf say:

While you are log-in in your current new account - go to this link:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php

... and paste your old email (not user name, not any password)

The 2 accounts will be merged.

2195) Questions and Answers : Web site : BOINC spammers? (Message 1217849)
Posted 13 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The good thing is they (anybody) can't send more than 10 (?) Private messages per hour (?) (from the same account)

You can "Block messages from this user" using the red square next to his/her name (in "Private messages: Inbox").

2196) Message boards : Number crunching : Update for GPU AP (both NV and ATi) to rev560 (Message 1217206)
Posted 12 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

<cmdline>-no_cpu_lock -instances_per_device 1 ......</cmdline>

2197) Questions and Answers : Windows : CUDA & nVidia driver 296.10 (Message 1217195)
Posted 12 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:


http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67434

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67231

2198) Questions and Answers : Windows : What are Optimized apps? (Message 1217188)
Posted 12 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
hmm, i'm not sure if this has anything to do with it- do i need to download and run both the "installer" , as well as the individual astropulse downloads underneath them?

(i only used the installer because i thought the astropulse app was included in the installer 0.40)

All the apps are in the installer.
Open the installer with 7-Zip and see for yourself.

BOINC will need a few days to learn the speed of apps.
Very probably now the estimated time is too big.
BOINC thinks it will not have time to finish tasks before the deadline so jumps from task to task.
Soon BOINC will calm down and not go to "high priority" (which means only "do that task before any other", nothing to do with the Process Priority)

2199) Message boards : Number crunching : I hate to do this (Message 1215979)
Posted 9 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
GPU-Z sees the card, but does not show it having any CUDA, directCompute, ... capabilities.

Did you do this locally or remotely?

2200) Questions and Answers : Windows : I can't get SETI@home to work (Message 1215974)
Posted 9 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I now write this on 524 MHz K6-2+ and don't feel any difference in speed/response time/lag and SETI is running at 100% for years.

2201) Questions and Answers : Windows : I can't get SETI@home to work (Message 1215970)
Posted 9 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Are you afraid of heat generation or that your system will run slow other programs?
The second is not true as you can check by any benchmarking program or just by 'feel'
- no slowdown of other programs as the computing apps run at lowest possible priority (lower than screensavers)

2202) Questions and Answers : Windows : I can't get SETI@home to work (Message 1215959)
Posted 9 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You now 'have' 4 new tasks, just wait for them (and the computing apps) to be downloaded:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6608116

You can monitor this in Transfers tab (just don't abort them)


The line at servers is overloaded so the download will probably be slow:
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;ranges=d%3Aw;view=octets

2203) Questions and Answers : Windows : I can't get SETI@home to work (Message 1215953)
Posted 9 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Hit Ctrl+Shift+E and look at the messages, did BOINC ask for work?

2204) Questions and Answers : Windows : I can't get SETI@home to work (Message 1215947)
Posted 9 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Projects/Tasks tabs - Status column
Activity menu

2205) Message boards : Number crunching : I hate to do this (Message 1215945)
Posted 9 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
4/8/2012 6:15:34 PM GPUs have become unusable; disabling tasks
4/8/2012 6:23:02 PM GPUs have become usable; enabling tasks
4/8/2012 7:11:23 PM GPUs have become unusable; disabling tasks

Do you use Remote Desktop?
Or switch users?

2206) Questions and Answers : Windows : I can't get SETI@home to work (Message 1215941)
Posted 9 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
How do I cancel the project on the other computer? I gave that computer to my sister the other day.

If I understand correctly you don't want BOINC/SETI to run on your sister's computer?
The easiest - you can tell her to uninstall BOINC


What do I have to do to get another task?

Try to set:
"Maintain enough tasks to keep busy for at least 3 days"
And set BOINC to "Run Always"

Is something set as "Suspended"/"Snooze"/"Won't get new tasks"?

(change BOINC Manager to "Advanced View" to see more info)

2207) Questions and Answers : Windows : I can't get SETI@home to work (Message 1215931)
Posted 9 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

What is your setting for "'In use' means mouse/keyboard activity in last XX minutes"
Or set it to "Run Always"

"Aborted by user":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6608116&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=

You have to have 1 task on the other computer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6607233&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1&appid=

2208) Questions and Answers : Windows : Short Deadline (Message 1215923)
Posted 9 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67539

2209) Questions and Answers : Web site : Reading (Message 1215835)
Posted 8 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Maybe you mean the Screensaver?
This is the explanation of the old Screensaver:
http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/screensaver/index.html

2210) Questions and Answers : Web site : Finding Something, how do you know? (Message 1214919)
Posted 7 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67459&nowrap=true#1211773

2211) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange notation in log (Message 1214897)
Posted 7 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thanks for the feedback. I went in and excluded the BOINC directory and sub-directories from the AV monitoring. We'll see if that clears it up. I will keep you posted.

Which "BOINC directory"? (Give/copy the full path)
As already noted you have to exclude the BOINC data directory.

2212) Message boards : Number crunching : Can not find linux AK v8 ssse 64 bit executable anywhere (lost mine by accident) (Message 1214884)
Posted 7 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thank you arkayn for having all the important files backed up on your site.


Now I have the app_info.xml edited and the AK_V8_linux64_sse3 file installed.

btw. Just my luck, it seems that I have problems downloading workunits... retry in xxxxxxxx minutes. I lost all downloaded work too...

petri33


execv: Permission denied

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2387170555
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5643864&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=


You forgot to make the file executable, I think the command is this:

chmod +x AK_V8_linux64_sse3


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod

2213) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 7 & NVIDIA screwed me - HELP!!! (Message 1214447)
Posted 6 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Try:
http://phyxion.net/item/driver-sweeper.html

Do BSOD happen if you put several of your older GT240 512MB cards in?
May be a hardware/PSU issue?

2214) Message boards : Number crunching : Development BOINC 7.0.25 (Message 1213195)
Posted 2 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
NvAPI_GetDisplayDriverVersion() is deprecated and replaced by NvAPI_SYS_GetDriverAndBranchVersion()

Do I understand correctly that Driver Versions before 290 have only NvAPI_GetDisplayDriverVersion()
and Driver Versions after 290+ have only NvAPI_SYS_GetDriverAndBranchVersion()

If that's the case how a program can choose which function to call to get the Driver Version
before it knows the Driver Version which determines which function to call?

Catch-22 ;)

2215) Message boards : Number crunching : Problem with lunatics or BOINC 6.12.34 (Message 1213145)
Posted 2 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I could not get it to work properly (it failed to download new tasks or even connect to SETI unless I forced it to).
...
Any ideas will be greatly appreciated.

Before anyone can give "Any ideas" you have to clearly describe what you mean by:
- it failed to download new tasks
- or even connect to SETI

And Copy some relevant messages.

2216) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.40 release notes (Message 1213064)
Posted 2 Apr 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If you have a CPU with SSE2 and above but not AVX the r557 MAY be faster.
We have indication that on most hosts r557 is faster but no guarantees.

I don't know if anybody needs this info but in case somebody wonders:
ap_6.01r557_SSE2_331_AVX.exe seems to work OK and is faster on my AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4832843





Till now 2 AstroPulse v6 tasks are finished using ap_6.01r557_SSE2_331_AVX.exe (but not yet validated):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2374705716
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2377424264

(they took 33-34 hours CPU time while the older ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe was using 35-38 hours CPU time for AstroPulse v505 tasks)


To test that on my CPU both r555 SSE and r557 SSE2 give the same results and which of them is faster (for me) I used these files:
"AP bench 2.10" and "Shortened AP test WU for offline speed tests" from here:
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=44

and 2 apps extracted by 7-Zip from Lunatics_Win32_v0.40_setup.exe

I put the files this way (folder/files):

...\APbench\Science_apps\Reference\
AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r555.exe
libfftw3f-3.dll

...\APbench\Science_apps\
ap_6.01r557_SSE2_331_AVX.exe

...\APbench\TestWUs\
ap_18se08aa_B6_P1_00046_1LC25.wu


Then I started APbench210.cmd

The results from ...\APbench\Testdatas\{computer-name}-20120401-0608-benchAP.txt
(shows that the results match and r557 is about 7% faster than r555 on this CPU using this WU)

Quick timetable 
 
WU : ap_18se08aa_B6_P1_00046_1LC25.wu 
AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r555.exe -verbose :
  Elapsed 1248.953 secs
      CPU 1198.750 secs
ap_6.01r557_SSE2_331_AVX.exe -instances_per_device 1 -hp -unroll 16 -ffa_block 4096 -ffa_block_fetch 2048 :
  Elapsed 1164.703 secs, speedup: 6.75%  ratio: 1.07x
      CPU 1120.031 secs, speedup: 6.57%  ratio: 1.07x
 
------------ 
CPU: 
Number of processors		1
	Number of cores		1 (max 1)
	Specification		AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
	Codename		Orleans
	Core Stepping		DH-F2
	Technology		90 nm

	Instructions sets	MMX (+), 3DNow! (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, x86-64, AMD-V
	L1 Data cache		64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
	L1 Instruction cache	64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
	L2 cache		512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size

	Core Speed		2325.1 MHz
	Multiplier x FSB	11.0 x 211.4 MHz
	HT Link speed		845.5 MHz

	Stock frequency		2200 MHz
------------ 
Chipset: 
Northbridge			NVIDIA MCP61 rev. A2
Southbridge			NVIDIA MCP61 rev. A2
------------ 
RAM: 
Memory Type			DDR2
Memory Size			1024 MBytes
Channels			Dual
Memory Frequency		387.5 MHz (CPU/6)
	Max bandwidth		PC2-6400 (400 MHz)

CAS# latency (CL)		5.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD)	5
RAS# Precharge (tRP)		5
Cycle Time (tRAS)		18
Bank Cycle Time (tRC)		24
Command Rate (CR)		2T

------------ 


ref-AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r555.exe-ap_18se08aa_B6_P1_00046_1LC25.wu.res: <ap_signal>11,<pulses>1,<best_pulses>10
result-ap_6.01r557_SSE2_331_AVX.exe-ap_18se08aa_B6_P1_00046_1LC25.wu.res: <ap_signal>11,<pulses>1,<best_pulses>10
             All Signals: Checked  11, 11 , Strongly Similar
                  Pulses: Checked   1,  1 , Strongly Similar
             Best Pulses: Checked  10, 10 , Strongly Similar

-(.\testDatas\ref\ref-AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r555.exe-ap_18se08aa_B6_P1_00046_1LC25.wu.res)-
    Reportable Single Pulses: 0 [OK], 0 above threshold*THRESHOLD_FUDGE
 Reportable Repeating Pulses: 1 [OK]
        Single Pulses (Best): 10 [OK], 0 above threshold*THRESHOLD_FUDGE

-(.\testDatas\result-ap_6.01r557_SSE2_331_AVX.exe-ap_18se08aa_B6_P1_00046_1LC25.wu.res)-
    Reportable Single Pulses: 0 [OK], 0 above threshold*THRESHOLD_FUDGE
 Reportable Repeating Pulses: 1 [OK]
        Single Pulses (Best): 10 [OK], 0 above threshold*THRESHOLD_FUDGE

2217) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Finding Anomalies (Message 1211773)
Posted 30 Mar 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:


http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/about_seti/about_seti_at_home_1.html

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sci_status.html

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ntpckr_faq.php

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_glossary/public_announcement.php

2218) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.40 release notes (Message 1211081)
Posted 28 Mar 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Small discrepancy in different ReadMe files

Here:
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;sa=dlview;id=328
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/downloads/Lunatics%20ReadMev0.40.txt

"You will usually find that the SSSE3x application is fastest on the Intel
processors which support SSSE3x, except on dual-core CPUs with especially fast
memory subsystems."

Somehow the last part was deleted (Or not added initially? "Lunatics ReadMe.txt" found back in Lunatics_Win??_v0.38_setup.exe have the same omission).

In other places (ReleaseNotes.txt, first post here) the sentence is:

"You will usually find that the SSSE3x application is fastest on the Intel
processors which support SSSE3x, except on dual-core CPUs with especially fast
memory subsystems, where SSE4.1 may be faster."

2219) Message boards : Number crunching : HELP!! Windows 7 problem - System Check (Message 1207764)
Posted 19 Mar 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you can mount the disk in another working PC (as just second data-disk) you can try this to check the disk is clean:

ESET Online Scanner
http://www.eset.com/us/online-scanner/


Or use some live CD to boot from it and scan:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_live_CDs#Microsoft_Windows-based

If the live CD have no browser you can use this:
http://www.opera-usb.com/operausben.htm

2220) Questions and Answers : Windows : Display out of whack (Message 1207757)
Posted 19 Mar 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
In my experience Optimized heat more than standard.
Milkyway heat more than PG which heat more than seti.
Not all work is the same.
For new users, cross project GPU use and temps will not be the same as seti

OK, that's good to know.

But the original proposition was that different SETI WUs done by the same standard SETI app will be somehow different in heat generation.
So I commented that this is not the case:

I presume that not all WU's will cause this

In my experience all WUs heat the same.


Do you see measurable difference in heat generation for different SETI WUs done by the same app?

2221) Questions and Answers : Windows : Display out of whack (Message 1207521)
Posted 18 Mar 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I presume that not all WU's will cause this

In my experience all WUs heat the same.


what can I do to prevent it from overheating again?

1) If the laptop is >1 year old dust accumulated inside will make it run maybe 30°C higher than when it was new.

With laptop OFF blow compressed air in opposite direction (through out hole inside) (or find some computer service company to do it)
Warning: if the air pressure/flow is too high it can block the fan, if after turning laptop ON its fan do not work try short blow of compressed air to make the fan spin.

2) Try TThrottle




The Red line in the picture show that I have set the limit to 55°C




3) Use 'Power Saver' profile in Vista (which uses lower CPU voltage & MHz)


Will Lunatics affect astropulse in anyway to prevent it from running?

Wait a few weeks for Lunatics to release the new installer (v0.40)
The current release is not compatible with AstroPulse v6 v6.01
(and your AstroPulse v6 v6.01 tasks which you have now will be deleted if you use the Lunatics installer 0.39)


2222) Questions and Answers : Windows : Display out of whack (Message 1206662)
Posted 16 Mar 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
1)Why did my screen mess up?

Most probably overheat

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62044


2)Do all tasks take 10hrs. to complete

Depend on several factors (CPU speed, 'type' of task (e.g. vlar), ...)
If some tasks in your case take 10 h other tasks may take only 2 h (you can't choose this, server sends what is available at the moment)


... and does my laptop have to stay on for that long to complete these tasks?

No, you can sleep/shutdown the laptop - the tasks will continue from where they were in the morning.


3)The screensaver is now gone I can't find it

It is in the normal place where you see all the screensavers in Windows


I had it in another window where did it go or where can I go to view it?

Screensaver of course is not "in another window"
You may be talking about [Display Graphics] button
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67257&nowrap=true#1206629

2223) Questions and Answers : Web site : astropulse (Message 1206643)
Posted 16 Mar 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

From the HOME page you may also click "About Astropulse" and get to this info:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ap_faq.php

Another info here:
http://www.boinc-wiki.info/SETI@Home

(AstroPulse was different Project years ago but was then merged with/in SETI@home Project)

2224) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Youtube Instructional videos (Message 1206641)
Posted 16 Mar 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

There are too many variables (different people needs) to fit it in all-in-one video.

You may start reading here (and follow the links):
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/BOINC_Help

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/User_manual

There are no videos but there are many screenshots.

2225) Questions and Answers : Windows : Getting Started Issues (Message 1206629)
Posted 16 Mar 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I can't display graphics? I have a couple of tasks done, but the "Display Graphics" button is faded out, and I can't select it.

Select Running task that is "AstroPulse v6 v6.01" or "SETI@home Enhanced v6.03" (Not v6.10 (cuda_fermi))
Then you can click [Display Graphics] button.


I also can't select tasks currently being worked on.

Why?? (What do you do exactly)

2226) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 7 Experience Index (solved) (Message 1205447)
Posted 13 Mar 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

(Reposting with some edit)

... Links to BilBg's list of recommended stuff

:) I didn't imagine anybody keeping bookmarks of my old posts ;)

You probably mean this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62044


Let me add this list by Ray Hinchliffe (the author of SIV):
http://rh-software.com/index_lck.html

! Not all in this list is 'recommended stuff'
E.g. I don't recommend Hmonitor

2227) Message boards : Number crunching : Correct Lunatic's Settings for AMD HD5450 (Message 1204985)
Posted 11 Mar 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Incidentally, I am running Lunatics as mentioned in my earlier posts, which should not work but does as using any other settings fail. I am keeping everything I can cross crossed!


I have Private message from Raistmer (the programmer of OpenCL apps)
I think this message is not secret so I share it:

BilBg:

Subject: OpenCL_r390 + Max work group size 128 - seems to work OK

You can see the clues here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67202&nowrap=true#1204712

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2344581713



Raistmer:

Hi.
The problems only with HD4xxx GPUs and some weird lockups our testers see time to time.

In general it should work indeed.

2228) Questions and Answers : Wish list : assign wu to specific GPU (Message 1204835)
Posted 11 Mar 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Find <exclude_gpu> on this page (will work on BOINC 7.x which is still in beta, don't play with it if you didn't read the relevant threads):
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration

2229) Message boards : Number crunching : Difficulty of getting help (Message 1204422)
Posted 10 Mar 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I can find only one account:

Dave(the admiral)Nelson
[redacted]

Then check User 9680532: David Nelson - we've given you that link, in various forms, several times already.

Edit - I advise you to edit out that email address, before spammers get hold of it. And when you check the second account, look very, very carefully for typing errors and tiny differences in the two email addresses.

I think you say this just out of curiousity?


@Dave(The Admiral)Nelson:
- Don't try to make the 2 emails in the 2 accounts identical, this is impossible!

Leave the second account as it is - it can't be deleted, it will stay unused somewhere in the 'basement' of SETI servers.


And "I advise you to edit out that email address" is about the email you posted in Message 1204393, NOT the email address in your account.
(I already marked (Red-X) the Message 1204393 to be hidden by moderators)

2230) Message boards : Number crunching : Difficulty of getting help (Message 1204414)
Posted 10 Mar 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You have 2 accounts http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=4191 and http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=9680532 and the new one was created on 7 Mar 2012. Given the total credit on the new account is 24 I would abort all the tasks on the new computer, do [Update] to notify all the tasks have been aborted, then uninstall BOINC and start again. Before you re-install make sure the BOINC data directory is empty. I expect when you attached to seti@home you did "create new account" when you should have selected "use existing account".

Okay, maybe that's the key. I'll try it


You have to select this (when re-attaching to SETI):




Don't type the email - Copy/Paste from your Dave(The Admiral)Nelson (userid=4191) account here.


I don't think uninstall/re-install of BOINC is needed, only Detach from SETI and then Attach again with correct email from Dave(The Admiral)Nelson (userid=4191) account.

2231) Questions and Answers : Web site : 503 error message even to web site (Message 1204378)
Posted 10 Mar 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This also happens with Rosetta site, and just noticed it happens with tinyurl site. ABC and Einstein have no problem?

This only shows that your college is implementing some block-filter based on IP ranges.
(or you use software like PeerBlock with unneeded IP ranges added to block list)

There is nothing SETI, Rosetta, tinyurl, ... (you will find more sites to add here) can do about it.


You have to investigate what is the difference (maybe router) between "its newer 203.215.52.x addresses" (blocks) and "the older ISP addresses 202.128.72.x" (work fine)

Yell at your college net admins that you are blocked to access sites that you need "for science"

2232) Message boards : Number crunching : Difficulty of getting help (Message 1204371)
Posted 10 Mar 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Good suggestions from all and I thank you(sincerely). I'll go back to the old drawing board and try some more. I do listen. It's the understanding that gives me problems.

Tell us what you intend to try beforehand, else you may end up with 3-rd account.

2233) Message boards : Number crunching : Only GPU (Message 1204367)
Posted 10 Mar 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Look at the bottom of "SETI@home preferences" page, there you'll see "Add separate preferences for work"

What you set/change there will affect only the computer you "moved" to 'Location: Work'

2234) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation Errors on SOME WUs, HELP! (Message 1203085)
Posted 6 Mar 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Your 'Error while computing' tasks are for 'SETI@home Enhanced v6.10 (cuda_fermi)'
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6438019&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=

Stderr output
<core_client_version>6.12.34</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
Maximum elapsed time exceeded
</message>
<stderr_txt>
setiathome_CUDA: No CUDA devices found
setiathome_CUDA: Found 0 CUDA device(s):
setiathome_CUDA: CUDA Device 1 specified, checking...
Device cannot be used
SETI@home NOT using CUDA, falling back on host CPU processing


Most probably because of the driver version:
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 (1280MB) driver: 295.73

I let others to suggest which (older) driver version is the best for your GPU


Problem with nVidia driver v295.73?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67074

Nvidia 295.73 Driver:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67043

2235) Message boards : Number crunching : massive diff in GFLOPs S@H/E@H cuda tasks (Message 1201981)
Posted 3 Mar 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... by restricting hard drive space allocation for a specific project.

And how do you do this for a specific project?
Hard drive space limits are 'global' (total HDD space that BOINC can use for all BOINC related files (all the files in BOINC program and data dirs))
If you want to set this HDD space limits different on particular computer it is easier (at least for me) to do that in local BOINC preferences.


This is what I am attempting in reducing the amount of work that Einstein downloads ...

By 'amount of work' you have to mean the 'amount of work in (seconds) processing time (as estimated)'.
BOINC don't measure the 'amount of work' in GB (HDD space) so these limits are unrelated.
(the same 'amount of work' of 1 day may be 10 (or 100?) times different in terms of GB (HDD space) for different projects)


To 'reduce the amount of work that Einstein downloads' you have to:
1) Lower the Resource share (on Einstein site)
2) If you want 'to start fresh' (in terms of Resource share, so you 'feel' BOINC obeys fast to the new Resource shares)
do one-time <zero_debts>1</zero_debts> in cc_config.xml
restart BOINC, then edit the value to 0 (zero) again:
<cc_config>

   <log_flags>
   </log_flags>

   <options>
      <zero_debts>0</zero_debts>
   </options>

</cc_config>
2236) Message boards : Number crunching : massive diff in GFLOPs S@H/E@H cuda tasks (Message 1201968)
Posted 3 Mar 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Manually suspended all 6.10 tasks with date higher than march, let boinc then run through the early tasks and then manually resumed all the 6.10 tasks again..
Talk about mouse hand/arm ache:-)

What ache?
Don't you know you can select many tasks by Click - Shift+Click (or Shift+DownArrow or Shift+PgDn or Shift+End) and then suspend/resume the whole group?


Did the same with a lot of e@h cuda32 tasks that were clogging the GPU's running in HP,

Why do you think that running tasks in 'High Priority' (as shown by BOINC, not the process priority) is "clogging the GPU's"?


suspended all of them then resumed them 1 at a time to allow both projects access to the GPU's..

Too much manual work for no real gain.
Did you ever see BOINC miss a deadline if you leave it on its own?

2237) Questions and Answers : Web site : 503 error message even to web site (Message 1201636)
Posted 2 Mar 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Try also these:

SETI@home Servers

208.68.240.13 download
208.68.240.16 upload
208.68.240.18 download
208.68.240.20 scheduler

2238) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GTX 580 down throttling on CUDA WU's Help.. (Message 1201421)
Posted 1 Mar 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I think you may save the settings (even if they are == factory settings) in Profile in EVGA Precision
and then in EVGA Precision properties (wrench) - Profiles tab - Automatic profiles management
select this Profile as both 2D profile and 3D profile

Or save Profile slightly different than the factory settings (e.g. + or - 5 MHz) and use that.


Also see if you can find a way to disable Power management by NVIDIA Control Panel settings

2239) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : WU crunch time --why so fast? (Message 1201405)
Posted 1 Mar 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

All is OK:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6197624&offset=0&show_names=0&state=3&appid=

Your GPU is just very fast :)

Check the similar times here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/top_hosts.php

E.g.:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5822224&offset=0&show_names=0&state=3&appid=
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5759434&offset=0&show_names=0&state=3&appid=

2240) Questions and Answers : Getting started : How do I stop my DCF being silly? (Message 1201196)
Posted 1 Mar 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The value is in client_state.xml

<project>
<master_url>http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/</master_url>
<project_name>SETI@home</project_name>
......
<duration_correction_factor>2.439095</duration_correction_factor>


BoincRescheduler shuts down BOINC (uses boinccmd.exe --quit)
then BoincRescheduler edits the value and restarts boinc.exe


If client_state.xml becomes broken you may lose all the tasks.
So I hope you will do tests with precautions (backup of BOINC Data and network disabled)

Be careful - boincmgr.exe restarts automatically boinc.exe after 30 (?) seconds.

Better ask Fred personally about any tricky things he faced doing that.

See Fred's and my posts here:
BOINC client is restarting automatically
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=5879

2241) Questions and Answers : Getting started : How do I stop my DCF being silly? (Message 1200707)
Posted 28 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Is there a way I can set an upper DCF limit?


You can cap this using BoincRescheduler
http://www.efmer.eu/forum_tt/index.php?topic=428.0

"config.xml

<dcf_min>0.1</dcf_min>
<dcf_max>0.2</dcf_max>
"

2242) Questions and Answers : Windows : units compute forever (Message 1199901)
Posted 26 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thanks. I'll abort everything and relosd with the Lunatics apps.

No, no need to abort anything, they will compute OK
And if the tasks are really half computed they will continue with Lunatics apps from the point they were (e.g. from 90%).

2243) Questions and Answers : Windows : svchost.exe getting bigger (Message 1199889)
Posted 26 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

As already noted every svchost.exe process is container for many modules, so you have to look at this info:
(and try to spot something you installed around the time this memory leakage problem started):






Hit Alt+Enter and look which part of it have high CPU and ContextSwitch Delta:




2244) Questions and Answers : Windows : units compute forever (Message 1198878)
Posted 23 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You may even try to [Suspend] only the stuck tasks, then [Resume] them

2245) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC Manager Keeps Pausing (Message 1198114)
Posted 21 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

It is not wrong for it to be set to "Run based on preferences" (if preferences are set correctly)
I don't know why they didn't work the way you want them in your case, more info needed e.g. contents of global_prefs_override.xml file.

You may read about all menus/tabs/preferences here:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Advanced_view
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Preferences

2246) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC Manager Keeps Pausing (Message 1198094)
Posted 21 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Check again BOINC Manager - Preferences

If even after restart of BOINC this continues
the easiest to do is from menu:
Activity -> Run always

2247) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC Manager Keeps Pausing (Message 1198089)
Posted 21 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Where did you set those preferences?

2248) Questions and Answers : Windows : Not receiving Seti@Home tasks (Message 1197694)
Posted 20 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
When I click on "allow new tasks" I get message "won't get new tasks"
event log message says "work fetch suspended by user"

When I click on "dont allow new tasks" I get message "communications deferred",
event log message is "work fetch resumed by user"

I'm totally confused, any help would be appreciated.

No,
If you click [No new tasks] only then you get info in Status tab: "Won't get new tasks" (= I don't see it as confusing, info is correct - BOINC will Not get new tasks)

If you click [Allow new tasks] that info disappears (= nothing in Status tab, = BOINC will ask for new tasks when it wants, the button changes into [No new tasks])

And with 'Posts: 1491' you have to know already that "Communication deferred"
is Normal message which appears after any (successful) Scheduler request

2249) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC Manager configuration problem. (Message 1197675)
Posted 20 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have been thinking about trying to use a common data/subdirs in a dual boot situation.
Would that be possible? There would be no i/o clash since only one os would be active.
The first obstacle I see is one os is WinXP 32-bit and the other is Win7 Ultimate 64-bit, so app names in app_info.xml could be a problem.


I do it now successfully for WinXP 32-bit + Vista 32-bit
BOINC installed in Vista, then RegEdit info transferred to WinXP
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley\BOINC Setup]

On the same multi-boot system I was unable (3 years ago) to do this for WinXP 32-bit + Vista 64-bit
(I had trouble to resolve something about directory permissions, I don't know if I can do it now, I didn't reboot in Vista 64-bit for years)

2250) Questions and Answers : Windows : Not receiving Seti@Home tasks (Message 1197596)
Posted 20 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Still not much happens

2012-02-19 23:07:20 | SETI@home | update requested by user
2012-02-19 23:07:23 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
2012-02-19 23:07:23 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA GPU
2012-02-19 23:07:25 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
2012-02-19 23:07:25 | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available

(so you pressed [Allow new tasks] ?)

Now you are OK (Requesting new tasks)

As to when new tasks will be available for everybody (maybe on Tuesday) check from time to time these links:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html

http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets

2251) Questions and Answers : Windows : Not receiving Seti@Home tasks (Message 1197208)
Posted 19 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Okay. I clicked Update, then Advanced View -> event log.
This is what I got.

2/18/2012 12:38:36 PM | SETI@home | update requested by user
2/18/2012 12:38:39 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
2/18/2012 12:38:39 PM | SETI@home | Not reporting or requesting tasks
2/18/2012 12:38:45 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed


On Projects tab, if you select SETI@home, do you see button [Allow new tasks] ?

2252) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Seti has stopped showing up on the BOINCstats page (Message 1197190)
Posted 19 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If he has email aaa@example.com but it was typed as Aaa@Example.Com
will the old/new server software allow email change directly from Aaa@Example.Com to aaa@example.com

Or email have to be changed in 2 steps:
1) first to e.g. xxxaaa@example.com
2) and then to aaa@example.com

?

(I think it will not hurt if it's done in 2 steps, this way the DB record will be for sure updated)

2253) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Seti has stopped showing up on the BOINCstats page (Message 1197166)
Posted 19 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I don't know is the email case-sensitive when computing the CPID from it.

So I suggest - visit all accounts in all your projects (or at least on SETI@Home and World Community Grid),
Copy the email and paste in Notepad
Compare all email strings (and make sure they use only lowercase?)

You may find info here:
"Accounts on different projects are considered equivalent if they have the same email address"

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/CPID

http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?view=192

http://www.boinc-wiki.info/CPID


You may also need to "attach the project with the oldest join date to all hosts for a while."
In your case that is SETI@Home 1999-06-19

2254) Message boards : Number crunching : Yes Virginia, You Can Run CUDA on a P4 (Message 1196787)
Posted 18 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Unfortunately the my test "shorties" had expired so I'm having to use a different set of units.

You may try to lie to BOINC about the current time using:

RunAsDate - Run a program with the specified date/time
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/run_as_date.html

"RunAsDate is a small utility that allows you to run a program in the date and time that you specify.
This utility doesn't change the current system date and time of your computer, but it only injects the date/time that you specify into the desired application.
You can run multiple applications simultaneously, each application works with different date and time, while the real date/time of your system continues to run normally.
"

2255) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Seti has stopped showing up on the BOINCstats page (Message 1196721)
Posted 18 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do you use the same email address for all the projects?

2256) Questions and Answers : Windows : PC troubles since Seti fix (Message 1196212)
Posted 17 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

In Windows Task Manager you can see what processes are running.

For CPU you can see several:
setiathome_6.03_windows_intelx86.exe
astropulse_5.05_windows_intelx86.exe

For GPU you can see (if you didn't do it properly and it still runs GPU tasks while you are using the system):
setiathome_6.10_windows_intelx86__cuda_fermi.exe

(For older GPUs the files are:
setiathome_6.08_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe
setiathome_6.09_windows_intelx86__cuda23.exe
)

2257) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Seti has stopped showing up on the BOINCstats page (Message 1196203)
Posted 17 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Why do you think so?

My:
http://boincstats.com/stats/user_graph.php?pr=sah&id=8647488

Yours:
http://boincstats.com/stats/user_graph.php?pr=sah&id=12604


Edit:
The problem seems to be: You created different account (used different email address) for SETI@Home

There are two "valleytoobrown" users:
http://boincstats.com/search/all_projects.php?cpid=e2929353e035157fe5959e8c936029d9

http://boincstats.com/search/all_projects.php?cpid=fb3ff67e3455f4cadae4a8f277937585


Your active projects are:
SETI@Home
World Community Grid

(I think that) You have to make sure that at least one of your Computers:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=12604

... is connected to both projects

2258) Questions and Answers : Web site : no units to download (Message 1195449)
Posted 15 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

What is Astropulse?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ap_faq.php


this machine covers some 15k of credits. All this for just 5 units seems a bit odd.


This machine:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6272174

... have:
SETI@home Enhanced 6.03 windows_intelx86 - Number of tasks completed - 175
Astropulse v505 5.05 windows_intelx86 - Number of tasks completed - 5

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=6272174


Every application have its own estimation

2259) Questions and Answers : Windows : ATI Crossfire GPU not used (Message 1193105)
Posted 10 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Get Windows Installer v0.39 64 bit (for your Win 7 64 bit system with ATI GPU):
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9

See also the Installer v0.39 Readme and the info here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66241


After the install the SETI apps will no more update automatically to new versions (which are expected in the next months)

So visit the Lunatics Downloads weekly/monthly to check for new Windows Installers

Also [Subscribe] to this thread:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=53611

2260) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : gpu (Message 1192716)
Posted 9 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Why do you ask?
You already have 'Completed and validated' tasks for 'SETI@home Enhanced v6.10 (cuda_fermi)'
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6357245&offset=0&show_names=0&state=3&appid=

2261) Questions and Answers : Windows : ATI Crossfire GPU not used (Message 1192705)
Posted 9 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... and uses about 10-12 GB of RAM

No way, every SETI CPU task/app uses only about 30-40 MB of RAM, it just don't need more.

2262) Questions and Answers : Web site : 502 Errors downloading SETI artifacts (Message 1192552)
Posted 8 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Try to set some free Proxy by your choice in BOINC Options
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64691
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64691&nowrap=true#1158800

2263) Questions and Answers : Windows : No Graphics. (Message 1192521)
Posted 8 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
go to the "tasks" tab and select the running task but the "Show Graphics" button stays greyed out.

You have to select CPU running task (SETI@home Enhanced v6.03) for [Show Graphics] to work.
The GPU CUDA tasks can't Show Graphics as the app itself have no Graphics part.

(CPU app have 2 .exe parts:
setiathome_6.03_windows_intelx86.exe
setigraphics_6.03_windows_intelx86.exe

GPU CUDA app have only computing part (and NO 'setigraphics...__cuda...' part):
setiathome_6.10_windows_intelx86__cuda_fermi.exe

(or similar for 6.08 and 6.09
setiathome_6.08_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe
setiathome_6.09_windows_intelx86__cuda23.exe
)

You can see all the available app files here (at the two download servers):
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/

http://208.68.240.13/sah/download_fanout/
http://208.68.240.18/sah/download_fanout/

If you see some of the:
"Forbidden - You don't have permission to access /sah/download_fanout/ on this server."
"The service is not available. Please try again later."
"Could not connect to remote server"
... press F5
)
2264) Message boards : Number crunching : Software developer needs testers for multi-GPU users (Message 1191930)
Posted 6 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I know Afterburner does show the video memory being used on my HD5830.

@arkayn
Can you post a screenshot from MSI Afterburner?
(that "show the video memory being used on HD5830")


hbomber: We are going slightly off-topic, I think.

My initial 'request' was toward arkayn but it's good to see also the difference in GPU-Z 0.5.8 readings for same type of GPU from you and Claggy
This difference (Memory Usage shown or not) is strange for me as you both use the same driver version (1.4.1664 = Catalyst 11.12 ?)

Only the OS is different (Windows XP Professional x64 vs Windows 7 Home Premium x64).

@Claggy
Do you see the two "Memory Usage" values change over time (on the picture they are constant)

2265) Questions and Answers : Getting started : old email a/c in use bt s@h user.. BUT its not me!! (Message 1191684)
Posted 5 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Trouble is I have no idea what the password is for either Gianarth or Cliff on that email addy..

password, password, password - who said you need a password?
And what is meaning of "email addy" you use in every post?

The sole purpose of old classic account is to be merged with new BOINC account (so you can be shown as 'Joined' earlier)

Read again "The only option is: ..." in Message 1190389


all I needed to do was login to it and change its email addy to my current one.. Same really with the other one..

Even if that was possible (and it isn't) - Why??
There is no use of the classic account other than to be merged with new BOINC account, who cares what email is defined inside?

And the simple procedure for merge is in Message 1190389
You have to have somewhere list of your old email addresses (NO, NOT any password needed)

2266) Message boards : Number crunching : Software developer needs testers for multi-GPU users (Message 1191677)
Posted 5 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Can you post a screenshot?

2267) Message boards : Number crunching : Software developer needs testers for multi-GPU users (Message 1191671)
Posted 5 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

ATI GPU users, please try these tools:

ATI/AMD Memory Viewer
http://www.amd.com/us/products/workstation/graphics/tools/pages/tools.aspx

AMD System Monitor
http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/amd-system-monitor/Pages/overview.aspx

If some of them can show the video memory usage of ATI card we will know that this is at least possible.

(Do somebody of you know about tool which shows this?
I think that GPU-Z and Open Hardware Monitor can't show this on ATI
I Don't know about others (e.g. Everest/AIDA64, GPU Caps Viewer, HWiNFO, ...)
)

2268) Questions and Answers : Wish list : ATI gpu's (Message 1190915)
Posted 2 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I think only 3 people work at the SETI@home lab.

In fact the initial standard SETI CUDA app was written (ported from CPU version) by NVIDIA programmers.

All latest modifications/refinements were done by jason_gee (and only some of them incorporated in the >1 year old standard SETI@home Enhanced v6.10 (cuda_fermi))
After several years of experience with CUDA programming jason_gee have now direct connections with NVIDIA, reports to them many bugs in their drivers and receives from them the newest beta/alpha drivers (in NDA (Non-disclosure agreement)) which are not available to the public (to test and debug his modified/Optimized CUDA app).

ATI refused to help SETI@home lab to port the code for their GPUs
(and GPU programing is very different from CPU programing)

To me it looks like that the new SETI@home Enhanced v7.XX (in test now on 'SETI beta') is/will be made almost entirely by jason_gee + Raistmer + others from 'The Lunatics Team'
(But I have no internal connections to 'The Lunatics Team', some of them or from SETI@home lab will know better;
I don't know will Raistmer's ATI OpenCL apps be accepted as stock (standard) by SETI@home lab)

2269) Questions and Answers : Getting started : old email a/c in use bt s@h user.. BUT its not me!! (Message 1190892)
Posted 2 Feb 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Gianarth:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=34048

You can't in no way merge the above Gianarth account with your current one
because both are BOINC accounts.

"... there are 7,982 classic S@H credits done":
NO, classic never awarded credits - these are BOINC credits

Classic info is only this:
SETI@home member since 5 Dec 2000
SETI@home classic workunits 6,573
SETI@home classic CPU time 33,680 hours


But this account (Cliff):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=487675

... can be merged with your current one
only if you succeed to remember (or just try) old emails
("The only option is: ..." in Message 1190389)

The only significant change will be the date:
Joined: 5 Dec 2000

(SETI@home classic workunits will be added as text in your account
but will NOT be converted to BOINC credits)



P.S.
After my email about "User search (strange for me) results" (in short described in Message 1190328)
David Anderson fixed the issue and even added the User ID to results :)

2270) Questions and Answers : Getting started : old email a/c in use bt s@h user.. BUT its not me!! (Message 1190389)
Posted 31 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"but it doesnt show any cpu/rigs ..":
that is very good sign - it is Classic account

Don't try to log-in to it using any email/password combination - this will not work.
Read:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic.php

"When we launched SETI@home/BOINC, we created accounts for all SETI@home Classic users, with their existing email addresses. Each account includes the number of SETI@home Classic workunits completed, the CPU time, and the start date.
These accounts were not given passwords (i.e., they can't be accessed using any password)."


The only option is:

While you are log-in your current SETI@home Account (userid=8766616) go to this page:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php

Paste or type every email address you had ever, no need the email to be active (in existence)

If you don't remember it - you may try several until you find the one that was used.

If the email is 'wrong' you will see this message:
No Classic account exists with the e-mail address: sjkdfkjdngkjfdsnkjfdkjdf@zzz.yyy


(If the email is/was used by someone for BOINC you will see the familiar:
This e-mail address (xxxxxyyyyy@ZZZZZZ.com) belongs to an active BOINC account)

2271) Message boards : Number crunching : Linux Users dont let your Nvidia card go to waste (Message 1190334)
Posted 31 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You can use your Nvidia card on projects such as milkyway@home and einstein@home and set those projects to use GPU only.

That way your CPU can run SETI@HOME unbothered while your GPU runs another worthwhile project.

You should check your 9150e setup as it's been trashing a lot of work units. ;)

Cheers.


And the Astropulse v505 v5.06 'Error while computing':
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2286500453

"
In ap_gfx_main.cpp: in ap_graphics_init(): Starting client.
SIGSEGV: segmentation violation
"

... can only be avoided (on Linux) by:
a) not doing Astropulse work at all
or
b) using optimized app (which have no graphics/screensaver so will not crash "in ap_graphics_init()")

2272) Questions and Answers : Getting started : old email a/c in use bt s@h user.. BUT its not me!! (Message 1190328)
Posted 31 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
And as such, any of the Cliff in the UK accounts can be yours.
Impossible for us to say which one.


The 'User search' is strange - why it not show the current 2007 account of cliff?

Try to search for 'cli' and only one result is shown??!:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/user_search.php?search_string=cli&search_type=name_prefix&country=United+Kingdom&profile=either&team=either&action=Search

2273) Questions and Answers : Windows : Not seeing all CPU's despite right preferences? (Message 1190269)
Posted 31 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Post the first ~30 lines of messages from Event log
(this will show us several 'things' which we can discuss later)

SETI never used ATI GPUs 'by default' (there is no standard SETI app for ATI)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

(I don't know can Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium use 2 physical CPU chips)

2274) Questions and Answers : Getting started : old email a/c in use bt s@h user.. BUT its not me!! (Message 1190263)
Posted 31 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You are confusing things.

1) Climate Prediction (or any other project) can't have impact on your SETI account

2) The message was:
"This e-mail address (xxxxx_yyyyy@btinternet.com) belongs to an active BOINC account, so we can't transfer its credit to your account"

Where did you get impression that this info is somehow "for the existence of the BTInternet email address being 'in use' as such"?!

The message means: the account here that contains this string (email): "xxxxx_yyyyy@btinternet.com"
is BOINC account, not Classic account (= you used this old account sometime after ~2005)
(Do you remember when (year) did you first used BOINC?)

The 'email' is not email - it is just string used for real username.
E.g. sometime ago I created for test new account using 'email' of the form 999@555.333 and it works (despite no one can have such email)


Did you see the link in Ageless post which lists 4 users 'cliff'?
Was your old account under the name 'cliff' at that time?
Is this your old Computer?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=169470

2275) Questions and Answers : Getting started : old email a/c in use bt s@h user.. BUT its not me!! (Message 1190103)
Posted 30 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Your current account is this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=8766616

Can you give us the link to your old account?

(I want to see two things on your old account:
1) Total credit 0 (if this is not zero - you can't merge the old and new accounts)
2) Computers: View -> Show: All computers (if any computers show - you can't merge the old and new accounts)
)

2276) Message boards : Number crunching : Software developer needs testers for multi-GPU users (Message 1190084)
Posted 30 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thank you for letting me know. Please send me the save file generated by doing
Menu->File->Save Local
and I will see if I can fix it.

Tried three times.
It crashes.


Try to use:
Save Selected

Look at which entry it crashes (or hangs).
The next 'Save Selected' uncheck that entry and try again.

Report at which entry it crashes.

2277) Questions and Answers : Wish list : ATI gpu's (Message 1190080)
Posted 30 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You are confusing BOINC and SETI

BOINC long ago 'incorporated' (detects) ATI GPUs
And you can see that your is detected (Coprocessors AMD ATI Radeon HD 5700 series (Juniper) (1024MB) driver: 1.4.1664)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6239582

It's only that not every project (in this case SETI) can use them (have no stock app for them)
(and there are projects which can't use any GPU not matter NVIDIA or ATI)

2278) Questions and Answers : Getting started : old email a/c in use bt s@h user.. BUT its not me!! (Message 1190078)
Posted 30 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Got response that my old BT email addy was in current use!!

Copy the exact response (editing out only to not show the email)

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php

"
This will not work if:
Your SETI@home/BOINC account is already connected to a Classic account, or
Some other SETI@home/BOINC account is already connected to the Classic account
"

Meaning: If you ever used the old account for BOINC this will not work.

2279) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1055T (Message 1189686)
Posted 29 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1055T Processor --- 2,435 SETI users:
http://boincstats.com/stats/host_cpu_stats.php?pr=sah&teamid=&st=635&or=0

(Look 'Average credit per CPU second' column for CPU model comparing to others.
But how to find other users of the same CPU I don't know.
)

2280) Message boards : Number crunching : Software developer needs testers for multi-GPU users (Message 1189677)
Posted 29 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I found that if I press F5 (or Alt-D & Enter) the image sometimes loads.

(Hint: on the SIV website click on the name Hinchliffe to see something BIG ;)
http://rh-software.com/
)


I use SIV for years
It's always loaded (from Startup, using -Tray command line switch in the shortcut)

Thanks Ray
:)

2281) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Can I use CUDA on GT 430 and GT 520 ? (Message 1189009)
Posted 27 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Since you are excellent programmer I will not obey the rule to not suggest 'complex' things to 'New member'

You may try the Optimized Applications by 'Lunatics':
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9

(They are not only faster but also more mature)

Get the appropriate (32 and/or 64 bit) Windows Installer v0.39
It contains all the needed files.
(You may use 7-Zip to see the contents of the Installer)

Lunatics Windows Installer v0.39 release notes:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66241


The main programmers of the Lunatics' Optimized Applications / Installer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=8534984
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=7779286
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=276784
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=5509

2282) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Can I use CUDA on GT 430 and GT 520 ? (Message 1188893)
Posted 27 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

:)

Wow! Are you Ray Hinchliffe?!

I use SIV for years and we had some conversation (~50 emails) over the years.
(I'm the same 'Bil Bils' from emails to you)

I even 'advertised' ;) your FREE program here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292

2283) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Can I use CUDA on GT 430 and GT 520 ? (Message 1188892)
Posted 27 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

That's only cosmetic (the most capable GPU is reported only on the web site)

But the SETI CUDA app reports them OK in Stderr output of any completed SETI CUDA task, e.g.:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2284349008

2284) Questions and Answers : Windows : battlefield 3 and Seti (Message 1188890)
Posted 27 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

And how then these people run their GPUs without 'burning'?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/top_hosts.php

2285) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Can I use CUDA on GT 430 and GT 520 ? (Message 1188638)
Posted 26 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration
http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Cc_config.xml
http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?language=1&view=91

<cc_config>

   <log_flags>
   </log_flags>

   <options>
      <use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
   </options>

</cc_config>

2286) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.39 release notes (Message 1188632)
Posted 26 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Catalyst 11.12, did not give me OpenCL support


Are you sure you get the full package (Catalyst Software Suite)?:
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/previous/11/Pages/radeon.aspx?os=Windows%20Vista%20-%2064-Bit%20Edition&rev=11.12

2287) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.39 release notes (Message 1188564)
Posted 26 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Would adding a cc_config.xml file, stating to use all GPUs, provide a solution?

No, the GPUs have to be detected by BOINC first
(<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus> means just 'Use all GPUs which you already know about')


Try Catalyst 11.12

To clean the traces of 'old' (currently used) drivers:
Phyxion.net - Driver Sweeper
http://phyxion.net/item/driver-sweeper.html

2288) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI gpu multimonitor setup flickering (Message 1188512)
Posted 26 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Try to use NVIDIA Inspector (but of course I don't know can it do anything for ATI cards)
http://www.geeks3d.com/20110305/nvidia-inspector-1-9-5-5-available/

http://blog.orbmu2k.de/tools/nvidia-inspector-tool

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.orbmu2k.de%2Ftools%2Fnvidia-inspector-tool

Read 'Saving energy when using multiple monitors'

Right-click [Show Overclocking] button to start "Multi Display Power Saver".


If NVIDIA Inspector do not work - you at least know what is the reason for flicker.
And using some tool like MSI Afterburner:
http://event.msi.com/vga/afterburner/download.htm

... you have to find a way to fix the clock frequencies at one value.

2289) Message boards : Number crunching : Suspended - CPU is busy - why is this? (Message 1188503)
Posted 26 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The setting is:
'Suspend work when non-BOINC CPU usage is above --- %
0 means no restriction'
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global


If you use local (in BOINC Manager - Preferences) settings it is:
'While processor usage is less than 0 percent (0 means no restriction)'

2290) Questions and Answers : Web site : 502 Errors downloading SETI artifacts (Message 1188496)
Posted 26 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You can try Hotspot Shield
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64691&nowrap=true#1140754

It creates VPN connection - while Hotspot Shield is running any program on your computer will automatically use this VPN connection to get/send anything from/to Internet.

Since this VPN connection is encoded ('Secure tunnel' just like HTTPS) I think your ISP will not know what is transmitted and will be unable to change anything.

2291) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : How to get it to use the gpu? (Message 1188256)
Posted 25 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Looking at your tasks times:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6335930&offset=0&show_names=1&state=0&appid=

maybe the best use of your hardware will be to use:
SETI@home Enhanced only on CPU
Astropulse v505 only on GPU (but Astropulse tasks are very often hard to get)


To do so:

Set [No new tasks]
Report all finished tasks ([Update] button)
Exit BOINC

Use BoincRescheduler
http://www.efmer.eu/forum_tt/index.php?topic=428.0
... to 'move':
all SETI@home Enhanced to CPU
all Astropulse v505 to GPU


Run again Lunatics_Win64_v0.39_setup.exe and select:
for CPU: SETI@home Enhanced only
for GPU: Astropulse v505 only

Start BOINC
[Allow new tasks]

Edit:
The astropulse took 19,906.27 seconds... not sure how that stands up to other people using gpu but seems long.

Wait to see also the time for CPU Astropulse v505

This GPU Astropulse task also have:
'percent blanked: 12.55'
'Blanking' is done by CPU part of the GPU app so you have also 'CPU time 4,677.19'

2292) Questions and Answers : Windows : Redundant Rigs (Message 1188043)
Posted 24 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The link Delete this computer is at the bottom of the page (only you can see it):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4065982

2293) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : How to get it to use the gpu? (Message 1188037)
Posted 24 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The guy that 'did it fast' simply did it wrong (often happens on GeForce GTX 560 Ti)

'Weekly Outage' this days is only ~6 hours (unless you have some special USA holidays?)

Now you have two Astropulse v505 tasks for both your CPU and GPU
I'm almost sure the GPU will be faster (e.g. 2 hours on GPU and 20 hours on CPU, but depends on "% blanked" of the task visible after the task is complete).

2294) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : How to get it to use the gpu? (Message 1188013)
Posted 24 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Here's the contents of that file:

http://pastebin.com/feZt0X1a

(To make links clickable - mark/select the line and press [URL] button
To make images appear directly - mark/select the line and press [Img] button
)


You are using:
MB6_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_r390.exe

Maybe the faster option is:
MB6_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r390.exe


I disabled all tasks but the gpu one ...

Be warned that you will get no new tasks if you have even one task disabled.

2295) Questions and Answers : Windows : Cant get projects to start ? (Message 1188010)
Posted 24 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I've been doing this for years not and this is the first time it's ever happened to me.

You just can't "been doing this for years" (computing for SETI) from this account - you have
Credit: 0
RAC: 0

... and no Computers attached to SETI ever:
"All Computers belonging to David"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?sort=rpc_time&rev=0&show_all=1&userid=9285145

2296) Questions and Answers : Windows : 1 computer in my group, all workunits download error (Message 1188004)
Posted 24 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Did you recently changed the antivirus?
It can block the automatic .exe downloads.

Is this the Computer?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6321903


You can find the files here (if one link do not work try others several times (F5)):
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/

http://208.68.240.13/sah/download_fanout/
http://208.68.240.18/sah/download_fanout/


!!! Download the .exe files several times (to different folders)
until you get 2 times the same file size:

http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setiathome_6.03_windows_intelx86.exe

http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setigraphics_6.03_windows_intelx86.exe

http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/astropulse_5.05_windows_intelx86.exe

2297) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : How to get it to use the gpu? (Message 1187998)
Posted 24 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Where is the app_info.xml file located?

Most probably (if you didn't change this during BOINC install) on your Win 7 it is in:
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\


I'll try the cpu limit at 70%

There are 2 settings for 'cpu limit', use:
On multiprocessor systems, use at most 75% of the processors
(Not 'Use at most XX% CPU time')

Using 70% will free 2 CPU cores I think.


I see no mention of VLAR or anything.

Yes, the task is not VLAR:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2278606766

2298) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : How to get it to use the gpu? (Message 1187989)
Posted 24 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
After 46 minutes the gpu task is only 20% done. The cpu tasks are running faster than that :(

You are using "driver: 1.4.1353":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6335930

According to this list:
http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet.htm

... this is Catalyst 11.4

Try Catalyst 11.12 (the link is in Ageless' post)

To clean the traces of old drivers:
Phyxion.net - Driver Sweeper
http://phyxion.net/item/driver-sweeper.html

2299) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : How to get it to use the gpu? (Message 1187988)
Posted 24 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
After 46 minutes the gpu task is only 20% done. The cpu tasks are running faster than that :(

Can you post the contents of your app_info.xml file?

Maybe you may try to free one CPU core to feed the GPU with data?
(To not affect your other system do it locally in BOINC Manager - Preferences:
On multiprocessor systems, use at most 75% of the processors
)

Also if you use the GPU for other tasks (games, 3D screensavers, video encoding, ...)
this will slow down the SETI GPU computing.

2300) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : How to get it to use the gpu? (Message 1187986)
Posted 24 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Here's what gpu-z says about the gpu:



I downloaded the boinc client from seti website.
After downloading Lunatics_Win64_v0.39_setup.exe and running it, boinc has a red circle in the tray icon, but has now started working again.

It is using the gpu for 1 task now... it says in advanced view under status: Running (0.05 CPUS + 1.00 ATI GPUs) and application is setiathome_enhanced 6.10 (ati3ati).

The thing is, it says 15 hours remaining! I thought gpu's were supposed to be able to go through a work unit in like 10 minutes? GPU-z shows gpu load is 98% with temp 91 celcius, ambient temp in the room is 5 celcius. Cpu 100% and is running its own 4 tasts.


91°C is maybe too hot - laptops have no good cooling, check (in some specifications) what is the max allowed working temperature for your GPU

15 hours remaining is just initial estimate, do the 'time remaining' count faster (e.g. 30 sec down in one real sec)?
BOINC will learn and adjust the estimate in the next ATI tasks.

Maybe the real time on your ATI will be 30-60 minutes depending on the task.
(Depends on 'WU true angle range' (AR) - very low AR (VLAR) = high running time
Usually you will get more credit for 'high running time' tasks (VLARs)
)

2301) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : How to get it to use the gpu? (Message 1187696)
Posted 23 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I wonder how do you know which system he is talking about?

Both CPUs seem to be Mobile ('M' in name)?:
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2310M CPU @ 2.10GHz
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 480 @ 2.67GHz


He says:
"Out of the last 15 work units, 3 or 4 have had this message 'Completed, validation inconclusive'."
This matches ID: 6372706 (the only of the two that have such 'high' number of tasks)

And:
"my other laptop has an ati gpu but it doesn't appear to be being used by boinc..."
(ID: 6335930 had only 4 tasks ever)

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66724&nowrap=true

2302) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : How to get it to use the gpu? (Message 1187670)
Posted 23 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It doesn't even mention that i have a gpu anywhere.


BOINC is detecting your GPU as:
Coprocessors: AMD ATI Radeon HD 5x00 series (Redwood) (1024MB)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6335930

But SETI@home do not have standard application to use it:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

2303) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Completed, validation inconclusive (Message 1187668)
Posted 23 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

There is no difference between CPU and GPU tasks - they are the same (if you had a GPU you could look (check this) in the task files, they can be opened with text editor)

They are the same whiskey in the same bottles but with different labels.
And the labels ("sent for your CPU" or "sent for your GPU") are not in the task files but in the client_state.xml

(in short: there is no such thing as "CPU task file" or "GPU task file")

2304) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Completed, validation inconclusive (Message 1187663)
Posted 23 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What happens now?

As you can see - the same task is sent to yet another computer, e.g.:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=914730273

If the result from that another computer closely matches yours - you will get credit.

(IIRC "close match" of signals is something like "the values (power, period, ...) do not differ more than 1%"
The slight and not significant difference in Floating Point values (NOT the "count" of signals which are Integer numbers)
is caused by different hardware/software used (inevitable rounding 'errors' which accumulate in long Floating Point calculations)

But in the above case even the "count" of signals do not match -
most probably real error of the GeForce GTX 560 Ti
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66124
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66093
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65894&nowrap=true
)

2305) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Can I stop the movement on the SETI results page? (Message 1186744)
Posted 20 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

It's not in BOINC Manager

Click on the link ("Go to the project preferences") in the Ageless' post.

There you'll find 'Graphics preferences'

2306) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Not downloading CUDA units (Message 1186158)
Posted 18 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Since you have only "Requesting new tasks for CPU" and no CUDA tasks on board ('In progress')
You have to check here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

what is the setting for 'Use NVIDIA GPU'

2307) Questions and Answers : Windows : Менеджер не показывает графику (Message 1184644)
Posted 11 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

1) You have to select "Running" task before you can use "Show graphics" button

2) Only CPU tasks can show graphics

2308) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Why are the downnloads paused? (Message 1184337)
Posted 10 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

And how do you expect that the computations will begin before the task is downloaded?

"download pending : project backoff" happens often when the network line to SETI is overloaded:
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets

2309) Questions and Answers : Windows : User stats (Message 1184331)
Posted 10 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

In your older thread:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64745

... You say something strange:
"Hello, I'm not sure if its running 24/7. I cannot get to the acount page for this computer."

You have to have physical access to the computer to check and change this (or use something like TeamViewer),

Or to only check:
Computers belonging to Alien Hunter, USA
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=893855

Click on 'Details' at left and Copy/Paste here this info for both computers:

% of time BOINC is running 98.1398 %
While BOINC running, % of time host has an Internet connection 99.9983 %
While BOINC running, % of time work is allowed 99.8557 %
Task duration correction factor 1.051192


It is obvious that your AMD is computing at normal (good) speed (when it is computing)
but it is computing only on small part of the day (maybe only for 1 hour)

2310) Questions and Answers : Windows : User stats (Message 1184324)
Posted 10 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Both of your CPUs:
Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5500
AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 250

seem to have the same speed of SETI calculations:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2245440608
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2249693886

(Run time/CPU time ~ 4000 s for WU true angle range 2.xx ; and both CPUs have 2 cores)


The only explanations I see (for low AMD RAC compared to your Pentium) are:
- you don't let your AMD Computer to run all the time (the Computer sleeps after a period of inactivity (and not only the monitor); or you use it only 1-2 hours per day and then shutdown it)
- you have local setting in BOINC on your AMD Computer to stop computations after a period of inactivity (no mouse move/keyboard press)
- you have setting in BOINC to not let it compute when user is active but you (your family) uses this computer almost all the time when it is ON.

(on your AMD Computer you have only:
Tasks 'In progress' 8
but
Average turnaround time 12.56 days
which means this computer 'makes' < one task per day
(it can do ~10 'normal' or ~40 'short' tasks per day using the same SETI stock app for CPU that you are using now)
)

2311) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Do we need a DCF for GPU WUs? (Message 1184318)
Posted 10 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This might not have happened if we had a separate DCF for GPU WUs.

It's not that simple - you (BOINC) will need several (many) DCFs for every combination of different GPU/app

e.g.
DCF1 - MB app on CPU
DCF2 - Astropulse app on CPU

DCF3 - MB CUDA app on GPU 0 (fermi)
DCF4 - MB CUDA app on GPU 1 (2xx)
DCF5 - MB OpenCL app on GPU 2 (ATI)
DCF6 - Astropulse OpenCL app on GPU 0 (fermi)
DCF7 - Astropulse OpenCL app on GPU 2 (ATI)

...

2312) Questions and Answers : Windows : log of results? (Message 1184026)
Posted 9 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Maybe you mean:
ACCOUNT - Tasks View

For any Completed task - click the link in the left column

(your description is not clear about what info exactly do you want to see)

2313) Questions and Answers : Windows : User stats (Message 1184024)
Posted 9 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Where "there"?

http://boincstats.com/stats/user_graph.php?pr=sah&id=893855

2314) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Brighter Screen Saver? (Message 1184021)
Posted 9 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The screen saver can be disabled (choose <None>) the normal way you change screen savers in Windows.
The BOINC/SETI screen saver is not needed for calculations, it only makes them slower.

You can use any screen saver you want (but any "heavy" screen saver will eat CPU time)
or no screen saver at all (<None>).

When you have active (computing) SETI CPU task (which you probably don't have) the screen saver have to look like this:



2315) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Communication Deferred (Message 1184019)
Posted 9 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"Communication deferred for 05:00" is normal message that appears for everyone (not only now but at all (good) times BOINC contacts the SETI@home scheduling server).
Even if you get tasks you will see "Communication deferred for 05:00" after that.

This only means that BOINC will not ask again for tasks from SETI@home in the next 5 minutes.
BOINC will try again and again every ~5 minutes until is gets tasks.

The downloads (green) appear to be at a reasonable speed (but not maxed)
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;ranges=d%3Aw;view=octets

2316) Questions and Answers : Getting started : What does "average credits" mean? (Message 1184012)
Posted 9 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

It's not just Average (Credit/day) over the years, it's Recent Average Credit.

The formula is based on week so when your account is one week old
try Credit/7 and see is this = to your RAC (I'm not sure)


After you accumulate some statistics (days) (now your page shows "Insufficient data available for charts")
you will be able to see some graphs:
http://boincstats.com/stats/user_graph.php?pr=sah&id=9639114

My:
http://boincstats.com/stats/user_graph.php?pr=sah&id=8647488



2317) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Can i find out my old email from my old user ID? (Message 1184001)
Posted 9 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Where you "attempted all the ones .... but it just says no email exists"?

You have to be Logged-in this new account (userid=9640921)
before you try to connect it to your old Classic account
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php

2318) Questions and Answers : Getting started : What does "average credits" mean? (Message 1183997)
Posted 9 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/
http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?language=1&view=2

http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Category:BOINC_Glossary
http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Recent_Average_Credit

2319) Questions and Answers : Windows : can't install boinc (Message 1183189)
Posted 6 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Did you already try the link to "Microsoft Fix it Solution Center" I supplied in my previous post?:

Diagnose and fix program installing and uninstalling problems automatically
http://support.microsoft.com/mats/Program_Install_and_Uninstall/

2320) Questions and Answers : Windows : pc freez (Message 1182739)
Posted 4 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
intel core 2 quad cpu with gainward gt240 graphic...

I don't use graphic only CPU. but after some time pc freezes and after that only helps reset on switch :)

What do you mean by "I don't use graphic"?
You have tasks for GPU - SETI@home Enhanced v6.09 (cuda23)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6320567

Which "temperatures are OK" (CPU, GPU)?
Better say what are the exact temperatures values and by which programs you see them.

2321) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : App keeps crashing (Message 1182738)
Posted 4 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Has anyone else had problems in the past two days with the app crashing?

Not for me


I go away for a short time, and when I come back to the computer there are several dozens messages that there is a problem with the app and it has crashed.

And what those messages say? (copy and paste them here)


It usually takes several minutes to close all the windows that it has popped up.

And what those windows say?
(most probably those windows are not by "it" but from Windows)


I've used this program for 12 years and never had it crash before. Help, please.

Not exactly possible - "this" program changed many times over the years.


Your "Error tasks for computer 6152007" show the same error - 0xc0000005
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6152007&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=

For " - exit code -1073741819 (0xc0000005)" read:
http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?language=1&view=98


Try a Reboot first.

Since you have Valid tasks on 3 Jan 2012:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6152007&offset=0&show_names=0&state=3&appid=

... what did you changed today?

2322) Questions and Answers : Windows : can't install boinc (Message 1182707)
Posted 4 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do you have problems installing any other software?

(or which other softwares (e.g. browsers) did you installed with no problem of hang during installation?)

BOINC Setup uses InstallShield + MSI

Try to find your answer here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Installer
http://support.microsoft.com/mats/Program_Install_and_Uninstall/

2323) Questions and Answers : Windows : Is it possible to have my new login name to access my old files? (Message 1182701)
Posted 4 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:

1) The question is: do you know the "email" defined/used now in your old account
and the password to your old account?

(even if that "email" (in your old account here) is changed (by your wife?)
to something like aaaaaa@bbbb.ccc you can use it to log-in your old account)


2) If you don't know the "email" and password to your old account:
do you have access to at least one of those "three pc's"?

(we can tell you how to use the <authenticator> stored on every PC connected to SETI, no need of "email" and password.

In fact the full info is here under "2)" (the only "problem" for you may be to find the "BOINC data directory"):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/get_passwd.php


Don't post the <authenticator> here in the forum!
It is the real key to your old account, use it only to log-in by the form linked above.
)

2324) Questions and Answers : Windows : Connection Error (Message 1182697)
Posted 4 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This is true for a while, but then boinc.exe exits (for lack of a heartbeat?), and the system stops processing WUs. For example, that is what happened here:

01-Jan-2012 05:18:16 [SETI@home Beta Test] Starting task 12jl11aa.26172.24610.15.14.175_0 using setiathome_v7 version 697
01-Jan-2012 05:33:04 [---] Starting BOINC client version 6.10.60 for windows_intelx86


The system restarted at 5:33:00 because I have a program that checks every system on the network every 5 minutes and restarts any remote system it cannot connect to (after three tries) with a Boinc RPC.


If boinc.exe exits you have to see some lines that say Exit/Shutdown before "Starting BOINC client":

08-Dec-2011 04:24:53 [SETI@home] Computation for task 22oc11ac.9371.53591.11.10.90_1 finished
08-Dec-2011 04:24:53 [SETI@home] Starting 24oc11ad.27923.20522.15.10.215_1
08-Dec-2011 04:24:53 [SETI@home] Starting task 24oc11ad.27923.20522.15.10.215_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 528
08-Dec-2011 04:24:56 [SETI@home] Started upload of 22oc11ac.9371.53591.11.10.90_1_0
08-Dec-2011 04:25:09 [SETI@home] Finished upload of 22oc11ac.9371.53591.11.10.90_1_0
09-Dec-2011 04:25:13 [SETI@home] Sending scheduler request: To report completed tasks.
09-Dec-2011 04:25:13 [SETI@home] Reporting 1 completed tasks, not requesting new tasks
09-Dec-2011 04:25:30 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed
[12/09/11 13:19:30] TRACE [-1323943]: ***** Win9x Monitor System Shutdown/Logoff Event Detected *****

09-Dec-2011 13:19:30 [---] Exit requested by user
09-Dec-2011 14:19:17 [---] Starting BOINC client version 6.6.38 for windows_intelx86
09-Dec-2011 14:19:17 [---] log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops, benchmark_debug


Is it possible that your entire remote system was hung (the OS unresponsive, nothing to do with BOINC directly)?

2325) Questions and Answers : Getting started : (re)Joining a seti@home team (Message 1182560)
Posted 3 Jan 2012 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Seti@home webpage is not firefox friendly I guess.

Not true - it's OK (stays logged in) in IE, Firefox, Opera, Chrome, ...

Check your Cookies permissions (do you accept Cookies from SETI@home?)

2326) Questions and Answers : Wish list : team problem (Message 1181622)
Posted 30 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

And what is the Question (what do you want to do)?

2327) Message boards : Number crunching : ddr3 ram? (Message 1180665)
Posted 25 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I also wonder why CPU-Z says:
Channels # Single

2328) Questions and Answers : Getting started : DoS attack fom Berkley.edu??? (Message 1180655)
Posted 25 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
ANY IDEAS as to why my router rejects this?


The SETI@home Servers are:

208.68.240.13 download
208.68.240.16 upload
208.68.240.18 download
208.68.240.20 scheduler

They never contact your computer on their own,
only after your BOINC contacts them they (may) respond.

If the response is too late (connection dropped/timeout at your computer)
your router may think that this too late response is some kind of "attack".

2329) Questions and Answers : Getting started : two computers on account (Message 1180238)
Posted 23 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The third-party sites do not update info immediately.

They get info from here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/stats/

The files you see (e.g. user.gz) are usually updated by SETI once a day
(and BOINC STATS and similar are getting the files maybe after a few hours later)
but sometimes SETI servers are not OK and produce new stats only once a week.

What you see in your account here and in BOINC Manager is most up-to-date.


My stats on BOINC STATS look like this:
http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_user_graph.php?pr=bo&id=7857e9fc356c31d5b09ecae27eb45005

http://boincstats.com/stats/user_graph.php?pr=sah&id=8647488

As you see for me it shows for SETI:
Number of hosts (active hosts) 4 (2)

And:
Current Credit 874,039

But in my account here it is more up-to-date:
Total credit 874,520

2330) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Can't upload/download tasks (Message 1180232)
Posted 23 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You may try this USA Transparent HTTP Proxy (works now):
97.81.243.127:8080

2331) Questions and Answers : Getting started : two computers on account (Message 1180229)
Posted 23 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Both computers crunching away.
but when i check my stats its only picking up the latest computer connected.

I don't know where you check those combined stats - there are many places.

Both of your computers:
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1700+

are shown:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=9246424

2332) Questions and Answers : Windows : program running sometimes won't let me use pc (Message 1180222)
Posted 23 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do you really need/want the screensaver?
(i.e. - Do you know that the screensaver is not needed at all?)

2333) Message boards : Number crunching : Getting more out of the W7 290.53 driver... (Message 1180009)
Posted 22 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Why some of you guys want to be silly and not use C: for your root OS drive letter is beyond me. :P

Because I have 4 root OS drives (multiboot):
C: Win 98 (2 GB FAT16 so I can see/manipulate boot files/sectors on this partition even by booting DOS 5.0 from floppy)
D: Win XP 32 (NTFS) - I stay mostly on this OS
E: Vista 32 (NTFS)
F: Vista 64 (will try Win 7 here)

When I installed NVIDIA video drivers for Win XP (on D:) half a year ago this was created:
C:\NVIDIA\DisplayDriver\191.07\WinXP\English\

2334) Questions and Answers : Windows : seti@home and CCP errors (Message 1180004)
Posted 22 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You may be the first to try this combination of programs.

Check in file stdoutdae.txt (in BOINC Data directory) what are the BOINC messages during "when a user is logged on" and "when CCP is idle".
(the file stdoutdae.txt is generated by boinc.exe - not boincmgr.exe)


Messages have timestamps in your (computer) local time like this:

22-Dec-2011 18:39:28 [---] Starting BOINC client version 6.10.58 for windows_intelx86
22-Dec-2011 18:39:28 [---] log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task, benchmark_debug, dcf_debug
22-Dec-2011 18:39:28 [---] Libraries: libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.3
22-Dec-2011 18:39:28 [---] Data directory: H:\BOINC-Data
..........

22-Dec-2011 18:39:42 [SETI@home] Restarting task 27oc11ac.10819.431653.16.10.203.vlar_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 603
22-Dec-2011 19:12:44 [SETI@home] Computation for task 27oc11ac.10819.431653.16.10.203.vlar_1 finished
22-Dec-2011 19:12:45 [SETI@home] [dcf] DCF: 1.012608->1.012747, raw_ratio 1.014002, adj_ratio 1.001376
22-Dec-2011 19:12:45 [SETI@home] Starting 30oc11ab.4324.2930.8.10.160.vlar_1
22-Dec-2011 19:12:45 [SETI@home] Starting task 30oc11ab.4324.2930.8.10.160.vlar_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 603
22-Dec-2011 19:12:47 [SETI@home] Started upload of 27oc11ac.10819.431653.16.10.203.vlar_1_0
22-Dec-2011 19:13:01 [SETI@home] Finished upload of 27oc11ac.10819.431653.16.10.203.vlar_1_0

2335) Message boards : Number crunching : Getting more out of the W7 290.53 driver... (Message 1179950)
Posted 22 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Magnetic Tapes folks, Reel to Reel, the lady is changing one at the time, nice legs too, whoever She was.


:D How did you managed to see the legs, 1000% zoom?


Punch cards, were almost gone by 1980/81 I was told by an instructor in 1981.

Oh, No
In Bulgaria (ask Raistmer about Russia/USSR) Punch cards were in use maybe till 1985 or even 1989

2336) Message boards : Number crunching : Getting more out of the W7 290.53 driver... (Message 1179944)
Posted 22 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Our Corvus (exactly that brand HDD) was connected (by some kind of network cable)
to ~20 Apple II+ computers in ~1982 (in Math department of Sofia university)

2337) Message boards : Number crunching : Getting more out of the W7 290.53 driver... (Message 1179939)
Posted 22 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Go away, It's not a virtual drive, It's path was not remapped, Its path was changed permanently and the drive letter was changed, This is Windows 7 Pro, Not DOS. I've been using computers since 1980, so I ought to know the difference.

OK, you invented the wheel (after StratosD an no-one else [Edit] OK, you added: Horacio does deserve credit though for the idea of the drive).
Do you continue to think that only USB drive solution will/may work and not any other solution that supplies anything writable at letter C: ?

I'm almost sure that subst C: D:\C_Drive or driver/program for RAM-drive will work either.

You say "I don't have ramdrive" but we are talking about "software RAM drive" - not "hardware RAM drive":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAM_disk


~1980 or 1981 I used this :)



2338) Message boards : Number crunching : Getting more out of the W7 290.53 driver... (Message 1179933)
Posted 22 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
No, This is not a virtual drive, It is actually now C:\...

And what you will call "a virtual drive"?

For me any of this is virtual drive:
subst C: D:\C_Drive
mapped network drive
ramdrive
Alcohol 120% virtual DVD
pendrive (Flash stick - it is chip of memory pretending to be disk, and you successfully mapped it to letter C: instead of F:)


If you don't like "a virtual drive" call it "a fake drive"
The idea was clear - use any easy way to put something writable as drive C:


The only problem is - during driver install you may need to reboot several times,
the question is - will this USB "drive" be mapped/mounted to/on letter C:
before the video driver install want to continue?

Map of USB stick requires drivers for USB (chipset) to be loaded and drivers for your USB-drive-controller (which is inside the USB stick) to be loaded in memory.

2339) Message boards : Number crunching : Getting more out of the W7 290.53 driver... (Message 1179930)
Posted 22 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Can you now acknowledge that you are doing just what Horacio suggested here:
"What Ive said is that you can make/add a virtual "C:" using a mapped network drive, a ramdrive or a pendrive, and then the nvidia driver setup wont fail when trying to use the "C:" for the temp folder."
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66422&nowrap=true#1179526

... and your answer was:
"Ok, well setup is trying to make and install a control panel to the address as shown in the picture below. So what You suggest just will not work, Ok? End of line..."

;)


I used similar fake drives 25-30 years ago on MS-DOS by:
subst A: C:\SomePath

... as some very old programs wanted to use only files on A: floppy


So it's known old technique to trick the software "to go where no software has gone before" ... ;)

2340) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.39 release notes (Message 1179927)
Posted 22 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
http://www.guru3d.com/category/driversweeper/
there you go. I'll give the 11.12 a try as well

Guru3D no longer supplies Driver Sweeper

"
Publisher: Guru3D.com / Phyxion (FnF)

Attention - Guru3D Driver Sweeper has been discontinued as such you will not find any download links here any longer.
"
http://downloads.guru3d.com/Guru3D---Driver-Sweeper-(Setup)_d1655.html


But the new version of Driver Sweeper 3.2.0 is here:
http://phyxion.net/item/driver-sweeper.html


I found the link here (Nvidia Forceware Tweak Guide):
http://www.tweakguides.com/NVFORCE_3.html

Similar Guide for ATI cards (somehow old - 2009) (ATI Catalyst Tweak Guide):
http://www.tweakguides.com/ATICAT_1.html

2341) Questions and Answers : Windows : seti@home and CCP errors (Message 1179922)
Posted 22 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

As I understand this - CCP is used to restrict the user to run only certain allowed by the admin (you) programs (e.g. browsers, games)

If you can set browsers and games to be used/run by any user can't you do the same for BOINC?
(allow boinc.exe , boincmgr.exe and project .exe files to be run and allow full read/write access to BOINC data directory)

2342) Message boards : Number crunching : Astropulse always crashes out. (Message 1179917)
Posted 22 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thanks for all the replies. I'll investigate the optimised versions.


You may find some useful discussion here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66123

2343) Message boards : Number crunching : Getting more out of the W7 290.53 driver... (Message 1179907)
Posted 22 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You can emulate the C: drive by e.g.:
subst C: D:\C_Drive

Associates a path with a drive letter.

SUBST [drive1: [drive2:]path]
SUBST drive1: /D

  drive1:        Specifies a virtual drive to which you want to assign a path.
  [drive2:]path  Specifies a physical drive and path you want to assign to
                 a virtual drive.
  /D             Deletes a substituted (virtual) drive.

Type SUBST with no parameters to display a list of current virtual drives.


(To survive a reboot during driver install maybe you need to use RegEdit and put the command in the Run key (this is on XP 32 bit, is it the same on Win 7 64 bit?):
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
D:\WINDOWS\system32\subst.exe C: D:\C_Drive
)

Definitely NVIDIA have to not use some hard-coded disk/path
but use instead %HOMEDRIVE% or %SystemDrive% or %TEMP%

2344) Questions and Answers : Windows : seti@home and CCP errors (Message 1179903)
Posted 22 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I don't think you can find here anyone familiar with that "cybercafepro" program.

Do CCP generate any logs of blocked "things"?
Check to see any BOINC related "blocks".

When CCP is running can you see the tasks in BOINC Manager?

2345) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Zotac 560 Ti 448 problems (Message 1179893)
Posted 22 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I'm not sure what do you ask
but here are some threads about problems on GeForce GTX 560 Ti
(read them - you may find some interesting facts and hints)

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65794
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65894
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66093

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66073
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66124

2346) Questions and Answers : Windows : seti@home and CCP errors (Message 1179888)
Posted 22 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

But you have 9 "Valid tasks for computer 6198394" reported just about 4-5 hours ago:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6198394&offset=0&show_names=0&state=3&appid=

2347) Questions and Answers : Windows : How to increase the anti-vrus anti-malware power of your windows pc (Message 1179448)
Posted 20 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

While there is no such thing as "100% protection" - I think NOD32 is very close to that:
http://www.eset.com/home/whyeset/compare/

I use it on my (3) computers and my daughter's (2) laptops.
I don't remember having an infection in the last 10 years.
(I often use torrents, cracks, keygens - no problem with infections)

(often children/students bring flash-sticks full of infected files but NOD32 blocks access to such files)


And don't be so sure that Linux is some shield against viruses:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Linuxvirus

2348) Questions and Answers : Windows : Error error error and more errors (Message 1179444)
Posted 20 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The file verification is already ticked and it works well with the LHC

Do LHC use .jpg files?

It's not "file verification" - it's "image file verification"

If you check "Skip image file verification?" only .jpg .png ... files will not be checked for proper size.

Read here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65934&nowrap=true#1166622

2349) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Same error on multiple machine with same workunit? (Message 1179434)
Posted 20 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The Linux CPU SETI@home Enhanced v6.03 (stock) validated OK against
Windows 7 GPU NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 (optimized) SETI@home Enhanced Anonymous platform (NVIDIA GPU) - Lunatics Multibeam x38g Preview, Cuda 3.20

( It's known that stock CUDA apps (they are older) are more prone to "-12 error":
SETI@home error -12 Unknown error
cudaAcc_find_triplets erroneously found a triplet twice in find_triplets_kernel

than the Lunatics optimized CUDA apps (actively developed, newer, faster)
)

Stderr output
<core_client_version>6.4.5</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
setiathome_enhanced 6.03 Revision: 306 g++ (Debian 4.3.1-6) 4.3.1
libboinc: BOINC 6.3.8

Work Unit Info:
...............
WU true angle range is :  2.724785
Optimal function choices:
-----------------------------------------------------
name                
-----------------------------------------------------
              v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)
   v_vGetPowerSpectrumUnrolled 0.00045 0.00000 
                   v_ChirpData 0.01915 0.00000 
            v_vTranspose4x8ntw 0.01132 0.00000 
                BH SSE folding 0.00141 0.00000 

Flopcounter: 10432754946380.425781

Spike count:    4
Pulse count:    0
Triplet count:  7
Gaussian count: 0
called boinc_finish

</stderr_txt>
]]>



Stderr output
<core_client_version>6.12.34</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
setiathome_CUDA: Found 2 CUDA device(s):
  Device 1: GeForce GTX 260, 842 MiB, regsPerBlock 16384
     computeCap 1.3, multiProcs 27 
     clockRate = 1350000 
  Device 2: GeForce GTX 260, 842 MiB, regsPerBlock 16384
     computeCap 1.3, multiProcs 27 
     clockRate = 1350000 
In cudaAcc_initializeDevice(): Boinc passed DevPref 2
setiathome_CUDA: CUDA Device 2 specified, checking...
   Device 2: GeForce GTX 260 is okay
SETI@home using CUDA accelerated device GeForce GTX 260
Priority of process raised successfully
Priority of worker thread raised successfully
Cuda Active: Plenty of total Global VRAM (>300MiB).
 All early cuFft plans postponed, to parallel with first chirp.

 )       _   _  _)_ o  _  _ 
(__ (_( ) ) (_( (_  ( (_ (  
 not bad for a human...  _) 

Multibeam x38g Preview, Cuda 3.20

Legacy setiathome_enhanced V6 mode.
Work Unit Info:
...............
WU true angle range is :  2.724785

Flopcounter: 10432115851830.561000

Spike count:    4
Pulse count:    0
Triplet count:  7
Gaussian count: 0
Worker preemptively acknowledging a normal exit.->
called boinc_finish
boinc_exit(): requesting safe worker shutdown ->
boinc_exit(): received safe worker shutdown acknowledge ->

</stderr_txt>
]]>

2350) Message boards : Number crunching : Thinking of a cheap extra cruncher (Message 1179135)
Posted 18 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"Operating System: Windows XP Professional"

If it's possible - ask the seller if he charges for Windows XP Professional license
and if he can sell the computer with empty HDD instead


Power supply
Maximum Rated Power 500 W
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&taskId=120&prodSeriesId=409749&prodTypeId=12454&objectID=c00215315

2351) Message boards : Number crunching : WinXPMode Virtual Machine in Win7 (Message 1179079)
Posted 18 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Your desire to "use 100% of the processors for 95% of the time - to reduce heat, and not hog all processing"
and "Of course now I want to run MORE !!!" to be more SETI-productive
are contradicting.

To really compare "to VM or not to VM" set both values to 100%
(you will not "feel" any difference in other programs (e.g. benchmarks, browsers, games) as the project's (SETI) CPU apps run at lowest possible priority)


There is easy way to make (lie to) BOINC to use more cores/CPUs than really exist.

Make cc_config.xml (or add to yours if it exists)
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration

<ncpus>N</ncpus>

Act as if there were N CPUs;
i.e. to simulate 2 CPUs on a machine that has only 1.
To use the number of available CPUs, set the value to -1
(was 0 which in newer clients really means zero to e.g. only allow GPU computing).

e.g.:
<cc_config>

   <log_flags>

   </log_flags>

   <options>
      <ncpus>7</ncpus>
   </options>

</cc_config>



Usually there is no overall gain in production but you may try just out of curiosity.

2352) Message boards : Number crunching : syntax error (Message 1179065)
Posted 18 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I checked it "by eye" - looks OK

If BOINC do not complain about errors in app_info.xml or missing apps
you will get MB and AP tasks both for your CPU and GPU

(the apps in your latest app_info.xml are just the proper/best apps for your
AMD Phenom(tm) II X2 550 Processor
AMD Radeon HD 6900 series
)

2353) Message boards : Number crunching : syntax error (Message 1178955)
Posted 17 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
yep just done that again look in the app info file and no info at all ???

Do you think that short answer in one row gives us any information?

2354) Message boards : Number crunching : syntax error (Message 1178950)
Posted 17 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... what do i need to do ???

It's clear - exit BOINC and run again the Lunatics' Installer 0.39 (Lunatics_Win64_v0.39_setup.exe)

Make sure it puts the files in the proper folder.

Most probably on your computer it is:
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\

If the .exe files are there but the app_info.xml is again empty
and you see several .aistub files try to run manually
aimerge.cmd

2355) Questions and Answers : Windows : Running Seti@Home only as a screensaver (Message 1178504)
Posted 16 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

In your Computing preferences
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global

Set:
Suspend work while computer is in use? yes
'In use' means mouse/keyboard activity in last XX minutes

(link "Edit preferences" is at the bottom)

2356) Questions and Answers : Getting started : transfer credit to new email? (Message 1178484)
Posted 16 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

And now you (maybe) want/need to "move" your Computers to that ~ year 2000 account?

1) Report the completed work by using [Update] button
2) [Remove] SETI@home project
3) Add (from Tools menu (?)) SETI@home project using the e-mail address of your ~ year 2000 account
("Yes, existing user")

Log-in (in the browser) in your ~ year 2000 account and post something here (so we can see you did it right)

2357) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Set affinity to specific core (Message 1178321)
Posted 15 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you want to try this - use Process Lasso

2358) Message boards : Number crunching : More HE Problems ???? (Message 1178041)
Posted 14 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

(all this is off-topic but ...)

Then what was the message during these 2 days?

Like this?:
01-Dec-2011 07:05:12 [SETI@home] update requested by user
01-Dec-2011 07:05:15 [SETI@home] Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
01-Dec-2011 07:05:15 [SETI@home] Not reporting or requesting tasks
01-Dec-2011 07:05:22 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed

Or like this?:
08-Dec-2011 21:31:35 [SETI@home] Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
08-Dec-2011 21:31:35 [SETI@home] Requesting new tasks
08-Dec-2011 21:31:41 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
08-Dec-2011 21:31:41 [SETI@home] Message from server: Project has no tasks available

Or like this?:
14-Dec-2011 01:27:48 [SETI@home] Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
14-Dec-2011 01:27:48 [SETI@home] Requesting new tasks
14-Dec-2011 01:27:52 [---] Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
14-Dec-2011 01:27:52 [SETI@home] Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server


(look in stdoutdae.txt)

2359) Message boards : Number crunching : More HE Problems ???? (Message 1178033)
Posted 14 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What i was trying to say is that i am actually getting work assigned
The machine was out of work now for almost 2 days ...

Most probably you had several Uploads pending (in backoff).

I don't know which of your 3 Computers you are talking about, but if you have "enough" Uploads pending
BOINC will not ask for more work from that project.

(what was the formula for "enough" Uploads pending?
EnoughUploads = 2 * (CPUs + GPUs) ?
)

2360) Message boards : Number crunching : More HE Problems ???? (Message 1178023)
Posted 14 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Update (to lunatics .39) seemed to have solved the no work problem

No way - it can't have impact on downloading.
It was only coincidence.

2361) Message boards : Number crunching : Best/Current Applications??? (Message 1177738)
Posted 13 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'd have made it v8c, but Jason decided that minuscule bugfix didn't warrant a full letter which made it v8b2.

Jason? Are you sure?
I thought Joe Segur is behind the change/fix.

2362) Message boards : Number crunching : Astropulse science database. (Message 1177725)
Posted 13 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
All experience I have is from the movie Contact where the blind guy finds a signal in "the static noise" as they call it.

That's a great movie but it is only a movie - they just try to make it more interesting to the casual public.

To think that someone will listen to all the data coming from radio telescope is nonsense.

(and you can't listen directly the radio waves, you have to do some transformation first.
E.g. just lower the frequency from GHz to kHz
or do analog AM/FM demodulation
or try to decipher the pulses digitally by some kind of DAC

But all of this is nonsense.
We have to find:
- first: that some signal pattern is embedded in the radio wave
- and second: to figure out how it is encoded

SETI@home try to answer the "first"
)


To want someone to listen to radio telescope output (as musicplayer "suggests") is like this "great" idea:
"Why not make radio receiver which receives all the radio stations in the world at once + all radio noise made by all the lightnings in the world and make someone listen to that cacophony?
He may spot someone speaking Eskimo!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo
"

In fact such a person can have more success than the "poor" one on the radio telescope "listen duty" ;)

2363) Message boards : Number crunching : More HE Problems ???? (Message 1177697)
Posted 13 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What's the problem now?


It seems that no one knows for now:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66119&nowrap=true#1175556

2364) Message boards : Number crunching : More Flakey Stuff - 3 hour deadlines? - Resolved (Message 1177423)
Posted 12 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

This was explained many times - the task was expired intentionally and the original deadline was not short but normal:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66181&nowrap=true#1172631

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=63826&nowrap=true

2365) Message boards : Number crunching : Default preference for GPU (Message 1177390)
Posted 12 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... Or, it may be that the web-based preferences are always read first, then the BM preferences are always read second, and if any of the BM preferences are different then they override the web-based ones.

Yes, that's the way it works.

If you don't want to be confused and you want to use only web-based preferences:
1) in BM preferences use the [Clear] button
2) NEVER use [OK] to just close the BM preferences window - use [Cancel]

If you obey this rules you will never see "reading preferences override file"
because the file global_prefs_override.xml (which holds BM preferences) will just not exist.

(web-based preferences are saved in file global_prefs.xml)


P.S.
(AFAIK) More strictly how preferences are set at BOINC startup:
1) BOINC sets all parameters at defaults (as the user may have not set any web or BM preferences)
2) BOINC reads global_prefs.xml (if it exists) and sets all the values defined in it
3) BOINC reads global_prefs_override.xml (if it exists) and sets all the values defined in it
(when you click [OK] in BM preferences all values are saved, not only the one you intended to change)

(some parameters you can set only in BM preferences (e.g. "calendar" with Network allow/disable times))

2366) Message boards : Number crunching : What's the best Boinc version of the 6.12.xx series? (Message 1177315)
Posted 11 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

So we need some option:
<force_gpu_detect>1</force_gpu_detect>

This way:
1) You can do what you want
2) Only you can be blamed (and not the developer) if/when BOINC hangs ;)

2367) Message boards : Number crunching : More HE Problems ???? (Message 1177312)
Posted 11 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Try the 2 in my post (read the warning in bold):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66119&nowrap=true#1174803

2368) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Images? (Message 1176949)
Posted 10 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Now I can watch the signals and stay up for the whole night to be the first to find the next "wow"!

Don't do that ;) (if you are serious and not just kidding)
You'll be crazy or you'll be dead - you may spend century or millennium.

They do that watching/hearing only in the movies.
Even the Wow! signal was NOT found in real time by watching some screen,
it was found in the morning when browsing the printed on paper night signals:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wow!_signal


There are already Billions of "Signals":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sci_status.html

They (at the lab) try to filter/find the most promising "Points in the sky" but the servers have trouble serving both
sending/receiving tasks and search the terabytes big database to compare and find repeating Signals.
The last Candidate is proposed 235 days ago:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_forum.php?id=830


You may find this PDF document interesting:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_papers/status_of_ucb_seti_efforts_2011.pdf


Also mind this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_glossary/public_announcement.php

SETI@home: Procedures for Public Announcement

... it is important that participants in the SETI@home project do not get excited when they see signals on their screen and go off on their own making announcements and calling the press. This could be very damaging to the project. It's important that we keep our heads cool and our computers hot while they grind away at the data. We can all hope that we will be the one that helps receive the signal of some extraterrestrial civilization trying to "phone home."
2369) Questions and Answers : Getting started : transfer credit to new email? (Message 1176783)
Posted 9 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Hello people.

I actually have the same question. I remember the address I was using (it is OLD) and the service provider doesn't even route email from that address, so I can't get my password to be sent to me...

Anyway to recover my old account ? There is probably not much there, it's just for the fun of having the same account as 10 (+?) years ago ! :)


Since this account you used to post here is already connected to a Classic account you can't connect it to your older Classic account.

So:
1) Make new account (to do so you need to use different email address than any of your other 2 accounts)
2) Log-in that newest account
3) go to http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php
and paste the e-mail address of your 10+ years old account (no need of password)
(if your 10+ years old account is Classic account this will work)

If you get some error message - copy it and paste here (if you want to ask us "Why").


You can change the email in any account you have access to.
But you don't need a working email - e.g. "email" of the form 999999@555.777 will work.
The "email" here is just your real username for this project.

2370) Questions and Answers : Web site : Can two accounts be combined? (Message 1176245)
Posted 7 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have and old account, this one ...


To see is it possible:
1) Log-in your "other" newer account (using the e-mail address that "is gone")
2) go to http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php
and paste the e-mail address of the "this one" old account

If you get some error message - copy it and paste here (if you want to ask us "Why").


You can change the email in any account you have access to.
But you don't need a working email - e.g. "email" of the form 999999@555.777 will work.
The "email" here is just your real username for this project.

2371) Questions and Answers : Windows : errors since installing lunatics multibeam code (Message 1175090)
Posted 2 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Optimized CPU Applications are about 150-200% faster than stock apps.

Optimized GPU Application have faster initialization phase
- you can see that "shorties" ("WU true angle range is : ~2.xxx") on your GPU now run for 250-300 sec and not 1000 sec as with the stock app (300-400% speedup).
- "Normal" tasks ("WU true angle range is : ~0.41") on your GPU now run 10-15% faster (1400 vs 1600 sec)


RAC do not respond (in huge steps) immediately after the changes, you have to wait the tasks to be validated before getting Credit.
Now you have Pending (193) tasks.

You have to run with no changes for at least 1-2 weeks to stabilize your RAC
RAC may have dropped slightly because you didn't process CPU tasks for a while (they errored)


You can compare the Credit per Run time (between stock and Optimized Applications) here (hurry up to look - the tasks will disappear tomorrow):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6202641&offset=20&show_names=0&state=3&appid=


(Don't expect the Credit per Run time to be too consistent - the "CreditNew" system (in effect for ~1 year) sometimes gives very different Credit for the same Run time by the same Application on the same computer)

2372) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Can't get GPU to process workunits on Linux machine (Message 1175089)
Posted 2 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Using Optimized Astropulse (ap_5.06r411_sse3_linux64) you will eliminate errors like this:

In ap_gfx_main.cpp: in ap_graphics_init(): Starting client.
SIGSEGV: segmentation violation
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2147976533

... because the Optimized Astropulse do not have (and hence do not try to use) graphics/screensaver.

2373) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Can't get GPU to process workunits on Linux machine (Message 1174995)
Posted 1 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The combined app_info.xml file was posted already here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66123&nowrap=true#1171754

(you have to admit that it is easier (for human) to read app_info.xml with indents and empty lines ;) )


(and the 2 computers are almost identical (CPU + GPU + OS)
- all dialog here and instructions for Jon Rook's computer also apply for Kalle Heiman's computer
)


With that (my) combined app_info.xml file there is no need to wait for cache to be empty:
"I added section for SETI@home Enhanced v5.28 so the existing tasks will be computed with the new app. (and NOT deleted)
The new tasks will be marked SETI@home Enhanced 6.03
"



@Kalle Heiman
Again - Read the thread from the beginning to the end
- it contains answers to many questions you may/will have.

2374) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Can't get GPU to process workunits on Linux machine (Message 1174991)
Posted 1 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Instructions?
Read the thread from the beginning to the successful end.

You'll see e.g.:
"
Linux 64-bit SSE3 package

Read the files Instructions.txt inside the .zip files
"

... which means: "get also the CPU package, there is file Instructions.txt in it"



Unfortunately, there is not instructions in the CUDA file.


... which means: "get also the CPU package, there is file Instructions.txt in it"
2375) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Can't get GPU to process workunits on Linux machine (Message 1174987)
Posted 1 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Instructions?
Read the thread from the beginning to the successful end.

You'll see e.g.:
"
Linux 64-bit SSE3 package

Read the files Instructions.txt inside the .zip files
"

... which means: "get also the CPU package, there is file Instructions.txt in it"


And if you intend to use only the app from seti_cuda_stock-r939-with-fermi.tar.gz
your CPU will (of course) not process any SETI tasks in the future.

2376) Questions and Answers : Windows : errors since installing lunatics multibeam code (Message 1174957)
Posted 1 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
One other thing I noticed is that the errors seem to only be on tasks running the 6.03 Application.

Yes, I have already seen you have errors only on CPU tasks (= 6.03 Application)
That's why I supposed you by mistake use app for Intel and not for AMD

You (try to) use:
<name>AK_v8b2_win_x64_SSE3.exe</name>
... but it exits immediately (at CPU time 0.00) with error:
Incorrect function. (0x1) - exit code 1 (0x1)


This have to be:
AK_v8b2_win_SSE3_AMD.exe

Run again the Lunatics' Unified Installer (Lunatics_Win64_v0.39_setup.exe)
and choose:
"SSE3_AMD (x86, faster on sse3 AMD)"

(don't forget to choose again your other options as the app for GPU)


Another possibility is that you use 32 bit BOINC and I don't know can it run 64 bit apps (as AK_v8b2_win_x64_SSE3.exe)

As you can see the other 2 files (for AstroPulse-CPU and MultiBeam-CUDA-GPU) are 32 bit :
ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe
Lunatics_x41g_win32_cuda32.exe

(Yes, that is right - open the installer with 7-Zip to see all the included files)

2377) Questions and Answers : Windows : errors since installing lunatics multibeam code (Message 1174939)
Posted 1 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Post your app_info.xml

It is probably in:
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\

I want to check that you installed (chose) the proper app for your CPU
AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor

2378) Message boards : Politics : AmericanCensorship.org (Message 1174839)
Posted 1 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"The US Congress is considering America's first system for censoring the Internet."

http://AmericanCensorship.org

http://www.disarraymagazine.com/2011/11/groups-launch-week-of-calls-to-senate.html

2379) Message boards : Number crunching : More HE Problems ???? (Message 1174803)
Posted 1 Dec 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Two USA Anonymous HTTP Proxy Servers that work now:

216.155.139.115:3128
67.202.108.170:80

You can use them if you have stuck downloads
but they are not good for Scheduler requests which fail.

1) Do/wait for Scheduler request to allocate you tasks for download
2) If the downloads are stuck (Project backoff) - Enable the Proxy Server and [Retry Now] them (to select all - Home, Shift+End)
3) After the downloads finish - Disable the Proxy Server (to not block next/future Scheduler requests)



216.155.139.115:3128
==================================================
IP Address        : 216.155.139.115
Resolved Name     : 216.155.139.115.choopa.net
Country           : USA - New Jersey
Network Name      : NET-216-155-139-112-29
Owner Name        : Choopa LLC
From IP           : 216.155.139.112
To IP             : 216.155.139.119
Allocated         : Yes
Address           : 165 Halsey Street, Newark
Contact Name      : 
Email             : network@choopa.com
Abuse Email       : abuse@choopa.com
Phone             : +1-973-849-0537 
Fax               : 
Whois Source      : ARIN
Host Name         : 
==================================================



67.202.108.170:80
==================================================
IP Address        : 67.202.108.170
Resolved Name     : 
Country           : USA - Illinois
Network Name      : STEADFAST-3
Owner Name        : Steadfast Networks
From IP           : 67.202.64.0
To IP             : 67.202.127.255
Allocated         : Yes
Address           : 350 E. Cermak Rd., Suite 240, Chicago
Contact Name      : Steadfast Networks
Email             : noc@steadfast.net
Abuse Email       : abuse@steadfast.net
Phone             : +1-312-602-2688 
Fax               : 
Whois Source      : ARIN
Host Name         : 
==================================================


I used the following options:




The results:



2380) Message boards : Number crunching : Can a CUDA core burn out? (Message 1174612)
Posted 30 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

When comparing with "stereo Watts" ("Music Power") he was talking about the advertised (inflated/synthetic/theoretical) GFLOPS
- Not about the number of CUDA-cores or multiprocessors.


Here is a table for Multiprocessors / CUDA cores for different GPUs:
http://www.geeks3d.com/20100606/gpu-computing-nvidia-cuda-compute-capability-comparative-table/

For Fermi:
1 Multiprocessor = 32 or 48 CUDA cores (depends on model - Compute Capability 2.0 or 2.1)

For older CUDA GPUs:
1 Multiprocessor = 8 CUDA cores


More info (PDF):
http://www.nvidia.com/content/PDF/fermi_white_papers/NVIDIA_Fermi_Compute_Architecture_Whitepaper.pdf

" Fermi:
Third Generation Streaming Multiprocessor (SM)
32 CUDA cores per SM, 4x over GT200
"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA

2381) Message boards : Number crunching : Force GPUs to work (Message 1174559)
Posted 29 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Trying to stay on topic here...

I have noticed that when I run Rescheduler, it occasionally moves the GPU tasks to high priority. When it does so, the units run much quicker, but it doesnt keep running all the GPU tasks at that level. I have edited my app_info to add <cmdline>-instances_per_device 1 -hp -unroll 10 </cmdline> on any of the modules that control work to GPU (with no success).

How can one force the GPU to run all apps at high priority?

Thx.

Your impression is wrong.
They run much quicker because they are VHAR ("shorties"), "high priority" (as shown in BOINC Manager) do not change in any way the speed of computation.

"Shorties" have short deadline - that is why they run in high priority.


<cmdline> ... -hp ... </cmdline> can be used only for OpenCL ATI apps (and nVidia OpenCL AstroPulse (?)) (made by Raistmer)

(<cmdline> parameters are passed to/interpreted by the app, NOT by BOINC)
(and this -hp can really change the speed of computation (but it does NOT show "high priority" in BOINC Manager)


CUDA NVIDIA apps (made by jason_gee) do not have/use <cmdline> parameters.

2382) Message boards : Number crunching : Force GPUs to work (Message 1174549)
Posted 29 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Works now, thanks!

You can also use something like this:
(press [Quote] under my post to see the raw text)

â–ˆ Blue

â–ˆ Bronze
â–ˆ Bronze
â–ˆ Bronze
â–ˆ Bronze

â–ˆ Pink
â–ˆ Pink

â–ˆ Black


http://html-color-codes.info/
http://www.computerhope.com/htmcolor.htm

2383) Questions and Answers : Preferences : ready to start, just wont! (Message 1174516)
Posted 29 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You normally have to see (based on your computer details)
4 CPU + 1 GPU tasks running.
Is it what you see?

The tasks "Ready to start" don't tell us much.
What BOINC say for tasks already started?
(e.g. Suspended?)

2384) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Are there penalties for lost/aborted tasks? (Message 1174223)
Posted 28 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
is there anyway about or get that one back

You don't need to.
After just 10 days (8 Dec 2011) this "poor" task will reach the deadline and will be sent to somebody else:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5620840

(It happens all the time with 1000s of tasks - nothing to worry about)

You have 2 new tasks - forget about the old one.
The system is well prepared to deal with cases like this.


But if you insist - you may try to Merge the 2 computers (6263315 and 5620840)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?sort=rpc_time&rev=0&show_all=1&userid=8093697

Use the link "Merge" at the bottom of "Details" page:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6263315

Then use [Update] in BOINC Manager

2385) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : More than one WU per GPU at the same time ? (Message 1174218)
Posted 28 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
And what exactly you needed to "figure it out"??
What was the problem?


The problem was i had installed lunitics but boinc wasn't making my gpu to 2 wu at once. i then realised i needed to put lunitics in the seti@home project folder.

Usually Lunatics' Unified Installer (Lunatics_Win64_v0.38_setup.exe)
proposes automatically the right place to install:
...\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\

It reads it (the BOINC Data directory) from the Registry:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley\BOINC Setup]
"DATADIR"="H:\\BOINC-Data\\"


I am also NOT stealing computing time for all those who think I am.

I can't consider using your mother's computer as "stealing" ;)
Just be careful to not ruin some important work she may have on it :)


P.S.
The strange thing is that you want more work done (by 2 tasks/GPU, by new GPU)
but "your" computer processed too few tasks recently.
I wonder why?

2386) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : More than one WU per GPU at the same time ? (Message 1174213)
Posted 28 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So, because i changed it to 2 wu at a time it gives me short tasks?

No, it just depends on what kind of tasks are available at the moment (and everyone will get the same "type" as you if asking the servers at the same moment)
The "kind of tasks" depends of the radio signals recorded (how telescope moved during the recording)

Because if I only get short tasks anyway then this is beneficial

Why?

also is buying a nvidia tesla c2070 better than a gtx 570 if i want to only use the cuda and not games

I don't think Tesla will have (almost) any benefit if using (almost) the same GPU
Too much money for little benefit.

Check the Top computers and see what they are using:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/top_hosts.php

2387) Message boards : Number crunching : Can a CUDA core burn out? (Message 1174013)
Posted 27 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The card just seems to be running at half speed ...

Why "seems"?

Use MSI Afterburner or EVGA Precision to check and report the exact speeds (MHz) of GPU Core/Shader/Memory
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64917&nowrap=true#1173453

GPU-Z also reports them:
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

2388) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : More than one WU per GPU at the same time ? (Message 1174009)
Posted 27 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Your last 2 tasks are short tasks:
WU true angle range is : 2.724356

When you get "normal" tasks with:
WU true angle range about 0.42

... then check the speed and speak again about the "wrong advice"

The speed will be slower as reported over the years by numerous users of even GTX 280 or 295
Search and read the forums.

If "it takes 14 minutes to complete one task at a time"
it will take >30 minutes for 2 "normal" tasks at a time (even more).

And maybe task with WU true angle range of 2.724356
will be computed in 3 minutes if only one at a time?

With only "Number of tasks completed 9" using "SETI@home Enhanced (anonymous platform, nvidia GPU)"
you don't have enough statistics to make conclusions:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=6234616

;) As in old joke - you may think that "Scottish sheep are black"
but the truth may be only that "In Scotland, there is at least one sheep, at least one side of which appears to be black from here" ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_joke#Stereotypes_of_mathematicians

An astronomer, a physicist and a mathematician are on a train in Scotland. The astronomer looks out of the window, sees a black sheep standing in a field, and remarks, "How odd. Scottish sheep are black." "No, no, no!" says the physicist. "Only some Scottish sheep are black." The mathematician rolls his eyes at his companions' muddled thinking and says, "In Scotland, there is at least one sheep, at least one side of which appears to be black from here."



P.S.
And what exactly you needed to "figure it out"??
What was the problem?
As I said: "It (app_info.xml) can't "change back" by itself as BOINC only reads that file and never write to it."

2389) Message boards : Number crunching : Force GPUs to work (Message 1174008)
Posted 27 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

No one of us knows which of your computers is "Blue" "Green" or "Red"
No one can see the computer names of other user.

If you want to continue to refer to your computers as "Blue" "Green" "Red" ...
at least edit your signature and add the list Name = ID
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=216887

e.g. (I just used the first 3 IDs of yours):
My computers:
Blue: 6256291
Green: 6237384
Red: 6207908

2390) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Nvidia GPU overheating (Message 1173453)
Posted 24 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Use MSI Afterburner or EVGA Precision
http://event.msi.com/vga/afterburner/download.htm
http://downloads.guru3d.com/Afterburner-2.0.0-Final-download-2562.html

http://www.evga.com/precision/
http://majorgeeks.com/EVGA_Precision_d6209.html

Screenshots:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65894&nowrap=true#1165854
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65894&nowrap=true#1165516

2391) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : More than one WU per GPU at the same time ? (Message 1172993)
Posted 22 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Then leave the computer alone, as we already told you several times -
this GPU is too weak for 2 tasks at once

"your NVIDIA GeForce GTS 240 (1024MB) is incapable to run efficiently more than 1 task, only Fermi NVIDIA GPUs can (4xx, 5xx)"

2392) Message boards : Number crunching : mystery error (Message 1172931)
Posted 22 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I think something (e.g. game) consumed the free video RAM at that moment
(or a game allocated/used some video RAM and "forget" to free it when the game exited or crashed)

How many tasks per GPU you run on that computer?

2393) Message boards : Number crunching : mystery error (Message 1172927)
Posted 22 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

cudaMemcpy failed - try just a simple reboot (restart of Windows)

2394) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc Requesting Work for Wrong Platform (Message 1172921)
Posted 22 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

In my account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml file I see:

<project_preferences>
<resource_share>100</resource_share>
<no_cpu>0</no_cpu>
<no_cuda>0</no_cuda>

There is also (on some projects)(I just found it in boinc.exe next to no_cpu):
<no_ati>0</no_ati>


You may try to add the same 3 lines to your files (I'm not sure about the names):
account_docking.cis.udel.edu.xml
account_www.gpugrid.net.xml

... and change 0 to 1 to disable the relevant type of work.

I think you will need to do that again (add the <no_xxxx>1</no_xxxx> lines) if you change the project preferences on its web site.
(because BOINC will read the new preferences from the web site and overwrite the account_yyyyyyy.zzz.xml file)

2395) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lost Hard Drive (Message 1172900)
Posted 22 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

After a month or two when they expire (deadline) they will be send to somebody else.

2396) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : More than one WU per GPU at the same time ? (Message 1172875)
Posted 22 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

1) -instances_per_device is used only for OpenCL ATI apps (and nVidia OpenCL AstroPulse) (made by Raistmer)

CUDA NVIDIA apps (made by jason_gee) do not have/use it


2) you need to change
<count>1</count>
to:
<count>0.5</count>

in 6 places
and then restart BOINC to make it read the file again.
(but this is so obvious)


3)
As you can see i have CUDA count as one.
I change that to .5 all the time and save the file but it somehow changes back.

It can't "change back" by itself as BOINC only reads that file and never write to it.

Possible:
- If you reinstall Lunatics' Unified Installer (Lunatics_Win64_v0.38_setup.exe) it will create new app_info.xml (overwrite the existing)
- maybe you save the new file to different place or different name (e.g. app_info.xml.txt)

2397) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : More than one WU per GPU at the same time ? (Message 1172652)
Posted 21 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

1) If you "have followed this thread" you had to know that (post #4):
Your GeForce GTX 480 (1503MB) can run 2 or 3 tasks at the same time (don't try this with GeForce GT 220 - it can't)


2) There are several places in app_info.xml where you need to change
<count>1</count>
to:
<count>0.5</count>

(but your NVIDIA GeForce GTS 240 (1024MB) is incapable to run efficiently more than 1 task, only Fermi NVIDIA GPUs can (4xx, 5xx))

2398) Questions and Answers : Windows : credits in world statistics (Message 1172120)
Posted 19 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The stat sites update usually every day (unless there are connection or server problems)

The files that the stat sites get from SETI are these:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/stats/

(Look the date/time - it is the time of generation in Berkeley local time.
Stat sites check from time to time (e.g. every hour) to see are the files updated (newer time),
get them and then update their databases.
)

2399) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Can't get GPU to process workunits on Linux machine (Message 1172105)
Posted 19 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

There is no difference between CPU and GPU tasks - they are the same (look in the task files, they can be opened with text editor)
They are the same whiskey in the same bottles but with different labels.
And the labels are not in the task files but in the client_state.xml

(in short: there is no such thing as "CPU task file" or "GPU task file")

Look at this Graph (and Bookmark it):
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets;ranges=d

When the green (our downloads) is at ~95 Mbits/sec the line is saturated (the downloads are hard to get)

To try a solution (workaround) read:

More HE Problems ????:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66119

~ Temporary Fix for HE connection problems ~ (my thread - comprehensive "Proxy talk" - how to find, check and use Proxy servers):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64691

HE connection problems thread (the description of the original problem which was declared as "solved"):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64652


(HE == Hurricane Electric - the ISP of the SETI lab)

2400) Message boards : Number crunching : Astropulse - more info from the Seti gods please (Message 1171805)
Posted 18 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_glossary.php

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_glossary/gaussians.php

"A lower "fit" value means a better fit."

2401) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Can't get GPU to process workunits on Linux machine (Message 1171798)
Posted 18 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Found by Google: "execv: No such file or directory":
http://falua.cesfelipesegundo.com/Neurona/forum_thread.php?id=6


For the benefit of any other member with a Linux AMD64 BOINC platform who gets the error:
"execv: No such file or directory"

For some reason it appears that the BOINC wrapper is still making a 32 bit call during the file save process (eg when writing a results file into a BOINC slots folder)

On a pure 64-bit system the lib-call will fail unless you add the ia32-libs package.

This does not require a reboot.

After installing the ia32-libs package simply resume the Neurona project and, providing you have no other system issues, it should continue on its merry way.

Happy BOINCing. :)



Also read this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62937

"chmod +x AK_V8_linux64_ssse3"

(the file name is not yours)

2402) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Can't get GPU to process workunits on Linux machine (Message 1171789)
Posted 18 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
(GPU section can be changed to run 2 CUDA tasks if your GPU is not fully utilized and you want more GPU load)

I correct myself - of course you can change the app_info.xml to enable 2, 3, ... GPU tasks to run
but according to a real user of NVIDIA GeForce GT 520 (1023MB) it is slower on that GPU:

"I could run 2 at a time in my low-end GT 520 (1 GB), but actually they run slower, they take more than 2x the time to run just one."
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66094&nowrap=true#1169976

Amauri
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=8878314

And he uses Linux:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6149325

And has Successfully completed Astropulse v505 Anonymous platform (CPU) task:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2151552830


You may ask him about your CPU errors.
They are not hardware related.


Or ask one of our gurus - Josef W. Segur
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=276784

You may see his name as one of the developers in the above linked Astropulse v505 Anonymous platform (CPU) task:

AstroPulse v5.06
Linux 64 bit, rel. Rev 411
Don't Panic!, by Lunatics
ffa threshold, twindechirp, lrint mod(s) by Joe Segur
SSE3 dechirping by JDWhale


(Whoever you ask - give him the link to this page so he can follow the discussion)

2403) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Can't get GPU to process workunits on Linux machine (Message 1171785)
Posted 18 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

OK, here's the info about your CPU errors:
http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?language=1&view=280

(Mind I don't use Linux, I hope you will understand what the info in the above link says)


Also I think there is some command on Linux which you run to inform the OS that some file is executable.
Run that command on AK_V8_linux64_sse3 & ap_5.06r411_sse3_linux64

Do you know what is "execv"?
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2160545286

2404) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Can't get GPU to process workunits on Linux machine (Message 1171773)
Posted 18 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Right now, all I am processing is 1 CUDA task and no CPU tasks. I believe I read somewhere that if you were running CUDA with s@h, that you could NOT also process CPU tasks. Is this correct? Even with the optimized apps?

Of course you can process both on CPU (4 tasks) & GPU (1 task by default) at the same time.
(GPU section can be changed to run 2 CUDA tasks if your GPU is not fully utilized and you want more GPU load)

You may need just to wait for CPU tasks (6.03) to be downloaded.

Post your app_info.xml contents if you wish it to be checked for errors.

One GPU task uses only ~20% of one CPU core (and maybe even less).
20% to 100% of one CPU core are reserved by BOINC by these instructions:
<plan_class>cuda_fermi</plan_class>
<avg_ncpus>0.20</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>1.0</max_ncpus>



Your Astropulse task error:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2160778795

core_client_version>6.12.34</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
process exited with code 22 (0x16, -234)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
execv: No such file or directory

</stderr_txt>


I don't know what this means.


Did you copy these files from "Files to Install" to /home/jon/BOINC/projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu

AK_V8_linux64_sse3
ap_5.06r411_sse3_linux64
.DS_Store


(Really I don't know what .DS_Store is.
It is Hidden/System file - maybe some leftover from Windows
)

2405) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Can't get GPU to process workunits on Linux machine (Message 1171754)
Posted 17 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

;) Despite you can make it yourself and don't need help
I had some time now to prepare the combined app_info.xml file for you.

I added section for SETI@home Enhanced v5.28 so the existing tasks will be computed with the new app.
The new tasks will be marked SETI@home Enhanced 6.03

As you can see you can use empty lines for easy human reading:

<app_info>

    <app>
        <name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>AK_V8_linux64_sse3</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>603</version_num>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>AK_V8_linux64_sse3</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>

    <app>
        <name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>AK_V8_linux64_sse3</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>528</version_num>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>AK_V8_linux64_sse3</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>


    <app>
        <name>astropulse_v505</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>ap_5.06r411_sse3_linux64</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
        <version_num>506</version_num>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>ap_5.06r411_sse3_linux64</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>



    <app>
        <name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>setiathome-6.11.x86_64-pc-linux-gnu__cuda32</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>611</version_num>
        <plan_class>cuda_fermi</plan_class>
        <avg_ncpus>0.20</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>1.0</max_ncpus>
        <coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1.0</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>setiathome-6.11.x86_64-pc-linux-gnu__cuda32</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>

</app_info>


2406) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Can't get GPU to process workunits on Linux machine (Message 1171676)
Posted 17 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do you want me to make the combined app_info.xml file?

I can even make it "the special way ;)" so you will NOT lose the "SETI@home Enhanced v5.28" tasks you have now.

2407) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems I'm facing regarding BOINC (Message 1171571)
Posted 17 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The Nov 5 app_info.xml Nautilus posted had (at line 51 of app_info.xml)
a </app_version> which appears to not belong to any previous
<app_version>.

I saved the posted app_info text to Test.txt and used Find.

The results:
find "app_version" Test.txt

---------- TEST.TXT
    <app_version>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
    </app_version>    
    <app_version>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
    </app_version>

2408) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems I'm facing regarding BOINC (Message 1171569)
Posted 17 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... every time I attempt to install the optimized apps I get a BOINC meltdown.


;) Yes, it looks like this



2409) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Can't get GPU to process workunits on Linux machine (Message 1171539)
Posted 17 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

[Subscribe] to this thread:
Optimized Applications and Other Binaries
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=53611

If new Optimized Applications are released you will see in your ACCOUNT
notification for "new posts in thread ..." with link to read it.

Check (go to your ACCOUNT) at least every month to be informed if/when you need to change/upgrade the apps
("soon" SETI will release the "v7" app)

2410) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Can't get GPU to process workunits on Linux machine (Message 1171510)
Posted 16 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Place (copy) the files in:
/home/jon/BOINC/projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu

(all the apps from the 2 "Files to Install" directories and 1 app_info.xml file you made by yourself as described earlier)

Since you now have "SETI@home Enhanced v5.28" tasks you will lose those tasks
because the app_info.xml from the .zip files have no entry for v5.28
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>603</version_num>

New tasks marked SETI@home Enhanced 6.03 will be downloaded


Is it just me, or is this a little confusing? I.e. upgrading the Boingmgr doesn't upgrade the application?!?!?

Since you are (were) using already app_info.xml BOINC will not upgrade the applications.
(I see you did detach (remove) of SETI project then attach again so now you don't have app_info.xml)

Using app_info.xml means that you tell BOINC: "I know what I am doing, I will supply the apps as described in app_info.xml, obey my orders"

And as already said: SETI have no standard app for CUDA on Linux so without app_info.xml BOINC can't use your GPU for SETI

2411) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : SETI@home use informix? (Message 1171506)
Posted 16 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You may find useful info here:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/ProjectMain

e.g.:
Creating a BOINC project
Setting up a BOINC server

2412) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Can't get GPU to process workunits on Linux machine (Message 1171492)
Posted 16 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

6.10.17 is your version of BOINC (boinc.exe + boincmgr.exe + ...)
(I see you upgraded to BOINC version 6.12.34 (which will not affect the computing speed))

The BOINC version is not related to the version of the actual (computing) SETI application (e.g. AK_V8_linux32_sse3).

Linux-64 - Downloads:
http://www.arkayn.us/forum/index.php?action=downloads;cat=19

Get:
Linux 64-bit Fermi Cuda app
Linux 64-bit SSE3 package

Read the files Instructions.txt inside the .zip files

You will need to combine (merge) the 2 app_info.xml files from the 2 packages
(and make 1 app_info.xml file)

Concatenate the 2 app_info.xml files.
Then remove (delete) the 2 lines in the middle:
</app_info>
<app_info>

You have to have only one <app_info> tag in the beginning
and one </app_info> tag in the end.

Use plain text editor (in Windows we use Notepad)

Optimized CPU Applications are about 150-200% faster than stock apps.

Place where you can find many answers:
http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/

If you post the first 20-30 lines from BOINC Event log (Ctrl+Shift+E)
we can tell you the exact place on your computer
where you need to put the app_info.xml file and the apps from "Files to Install" directory (which is inside the .zip files from www.arkayn.us)


We need to see the "Data directory" on your computer (then append \projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu):

14/11/2011 08:30:02 Starting BOINC client version 6.10.58 for windows_intelx86
14/11/2011 08:30:02 log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task, benchmark_debug
14/11/2011 08:30:02 Libraries: libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.3
14/11/2011 08:30:02 Data directory: H:\BOINC-Data
14/11/2011 08:30:02 Running under account A & L
14/11/2011 08:30:03 Processor: 1 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+ [Family 15 Model 95 Stepping 2]
14/11/2011 08:30:04 Processor: 512.00 KB cache
14/11/2011 08:30:04 Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 pni cx16 syscall nx lm svm rdtscp 3dnowext 3dnow
14/11/2011 08:30:04 OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional x86 Edition, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00)
14/11/2011 08:30:04 Memory: 895.23 MB physical, 1.78 GB virtual
14/11/2011 08:30:04 Disk: 90.00 GB total, 601.00 MB free
14/11/2011 08:30:04 Local time is UTC +2 hours
14/11/2011 08:30:08 No usable GPUs found
14/11/2011 08:30:09 SETI@home Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
14/11/2011 08:30:10 orbit@home URL http://orbit.psi.edu/oah/; Computer ID 43546; resource share 20
14/11/2011 08:30:10 SETI@home URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 4832843; resource share 100
14/11/2011 08:30:10 SETI@home General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 07-Jan-2011 23:28:40)
14/11/2011 08:30:10 SETI@home Computer location: home
14/11/2011 08:30:10 SETI@home General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
14/11/2011 08:30:10 Reading preferences override file
14/11/2011 08:30:10 Preferences:
14/11/2011 08:30:10 max memory usage when active: 492.38MB
14/11/2011 08:30:10 max memory usage when idle: 689.33MB
14/11/2011 08:30:13 max disk usage: 0.30GB
14/11/2011 08:30:13 (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager)
14/11/2011 08:30:14 Using proxy info from GUI
14/11/2011 08:30:14 Not using a proxy
14/11/2011 08:30:14 Suspending computation - initial delay
14/11/2011 08:30:16 SETI@home Restarting task 17jl11aa.20539.15609.4.10.72.vlar_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 603
14/11/2011 08:46:14 SETI@home update requested by user

2413) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : SETI@home use informix? (Message 1171485)
Posted 16 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Then you can see here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html

... that SETI uses mysql & informix (see bottom of page - "Glossary - Programs:")

2414) Message boards : Number crunching : More HE Problems ???? (Message 1171316)
Posted 16 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

edit.....I wonder if they mind all the traffic going to Berkeley.........

I was wondering that myself. During the previous HE router problems the admins of the proxies that were being used noticed their bandwidth usage going through the roof and eventually blocked the SAH IP's. Hence the continuing hunt for working proxies.

T.A.

You can try Hotspot Shield
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64691&nowrap=true#1140754

I think their servers will work always.
Every time you start Hotspot Shield another (random) server is used.

2415) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Can't get GPU to process workunits on Linux machine (Message 1171283)
Posted 16 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thank you for the information. Not interested in running that anonymous platform stuff. I'll move on and process GPU tasks for another project.

You can consider these 3 as almost equal:
Using Anonymous platform == Using app_info.xml == Using Optimized Applications

You are using Anonymous platform / app_info.xml / Optimized Application
and you already have "Number of tasks completed 6069" using "SETI@home Enhanced (anonymous platform, CPU)":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=5461940

But your Application is very old (read: slow).

Arkayn have (hosts) Optimized Applications on his site.
I think you have 32-bit Linux (Linux 2.6.32-35-generic)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5461940

There is no SETI CUDA Application (even Optimized) for 32-bit Linux.
The optimal (fastest) package you can use with your combination of CPU (AMD Athlon II X4 630 Processor) and OS (32-bit Linux)
to upgrade for faster CPU processing is Linux 32-bit SSE3 package (LX32_AKV8_AP5_SSE3.zip - 1.45 MB)
http://www.arkayn.us/forum/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=8

Read the file Instructions.txt inside the .zip

2416) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : SETI@home client Segmentation fault (Message 1171273)
Posted 16 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The "standalone mode" is only for testing purposes, you can't use it to get, process and return work (results) to SETI

Install BOINC
Add ("attach to" the) SETI@home project
(select "Yes, existing user" and use the same email & password from your SETI@home account)

The SETI@home applications and tasks will be downloaded automatically.

2417) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : SETI@home use informix? (Message 1171270)
Posted 16 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The server code is used in SETI lab (at Berkeley)
You don't need it on your home computer.

You can get ready to use BOINC client software from here:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

2418) Questions and Answers : Wish list : more information (Message 1169919)
Posted 11 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

What do you mean by "glossary"? Something like this?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_glossary.php

List which terms ("acronyms") you want to know about.

2419) Message boards : News : 2 Billion Results (Message 1169532)
Posted 9 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
True, but they are celebrating 1 billion and there are no work units to work on for THREE days. I have my computer set for 10 days of work!!
Something is not right.

That "Something" is time needed to change the code and test it.

Do you remember the Y2K problem?
(dates written as 00 may be interpreted as 1900 or 2000 because only one byte was used for date in some old programs/databases)

This is something similar - for now they can't accept your new results
because you will get/return e.g. result #2,150,000,000 and they do not have "room" with such high a number in their "hotel".

From the First post:
"... This explains why we're a little slow to recover from today's outage:
we need to update code to accept larger numbers."

2420) Message boards : News : 2 Billion Results (Message 1169526)
Posted 9 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Hmm, where I come from 4 bytes is just an int; ulong is 8 bytes.
Mebbe you need to get a more modern computer. :-)

Depends on the compiler and the environment. I was doing some C++ stuff in Linux a few years back.
Two machines, same distro, but one was 32-bit and the other was 64.
ulong on 32-bit was 4 bytes, on 64-bit it was 8.

Yes, I think the C Standard do not define the exact size in bytes of integer types.

Maybe the size of unsigned long int is chosen to match the full size of CPU registers?
(in 32-bit CPU mode the CPU registers are seen as 32-bit/4 bytes;
And in 64-bit CPU mode the full length CPU registers are "unlocked" - 64-bit/8 bytes)

As you can see different sites give different values for int size in bytes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_variable_types_and_declarations
http://ieng9.ucsd.edu/~cs30x/Std.C/types.html#Basic%20Integer%20Types
http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/variables/

2421) Message boards : News : 2 Billion Results (Message 1169281)
Posted 9 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Unsigned is not a long term solution!

"Unsigned long" (4 bytes) is not a long term solution ;)
but at rate of even a 100 000 Results per hour will give the project ~2.5 years to think about another fix :)

2422) Message boards : Number crunching : Can I run multiple computers under one name? (Message 1169085)
Posted 8 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Install BOINC
Add Project
Select SETI@home
Select "Yes, existing user"
Give the same Email address and password

To avoid errors (single letter difference may create another account)
Copy the Email address from "Your account":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/home.php

2423) Questions and Answers : Getting started : BOINC Manager is not able to connect to a BOINC client. (Message 1169078)
Posted 8 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you want to analyze the crash dump by yourself:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/AppDebugWin


You can try if BOINC 6.10.60 (Older version) will work OK
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

(! Don't try 6.13.x)

You can just install over the current.

2424) Message boards : Number crunching : How come u guys have stats on your signatures and i don't? (Message 1168193)
Posted 5 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Signatures?

I don't see no signatures here at all and I like it that way. ;)

Cheers.


;) If you "don't see no signatures" you see them all ;)

And how it come you can see mine now:

____________



- ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :)

2425) Message boards : Number crunching : How come u guys have stats on your signatures and i don't? (Message 1168187)
Posted 5 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The raw text/codes in my "Signature for message board posts":
[b] [/b]
[img]http://www.danasoft.com/sig/BilBg.jpg[/img]

[img]http://mail.dir.bg/~bil/ALF_133x100.png[/img] - [size=18][color=brown]ALF[/color][/size] - [b]"Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!"[/b] :)
[b] [/b]


2426) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems I'm facing regarding BOINC (Message 1168183)
Posted 5 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
There is some kind efficiency issues too. Like only 25%, 50% utilization of GPU on some tasks.

To have more load of the GPU you can try 2 or 3 simultaneous ATI tasks

Since you know the computers well I'll give only this short info:
(Make backup copy of app_info.xml before editing for easy restore.
It's in ...\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\ which in your case is exactly:
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\
)

Exit BOINC
Edit the app_info.xml file with Notepad

For 2 tasks at a time:
Change (in ATI sections) all occurrences of:
<count>1</count>
<cmdline>-instances_per_device 1</cmdline>

... to
<coproc>
   <type>ATI</type>
   <count>0.5</count>
</coproc>

and:
<cmdline>-instances_per_device 2</cmdline>

2427) Questions and Answers : Windows : gpu optimisation question (Message 1168178)
Posted 5 Nov 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
oh also,why does it only mention nvidia in the preferences section like this~Use NVIDIA GPU
Enforced by version 6.10+
this does work with ATI cards doesnt it?

No, SETI do not have standard application for ATI GPUs
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

Programmers which make the Optimized application made several for ATI GPUs but I can't recommend this for a "New member".
(unless you know the computers, BOINC and SETI very well (e.g. can you tell where is the file client_state.xml))


For your general question:
"how can i tell if the (any) program is using my gpu to its fullest?"
use GPU-Z (Sensors tab show GPU load and many other things)
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

2428) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Error while downloading (Message 1166622)
Posted 31 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Since you have this error:
10/30/2011 12:52:34 PM | SETI@home | Started download of seti_608.jpg
10/30/2011 12:52:39 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of seti_608.jpg
10/30/2011 12:52:39 PM | SETI@home | [error] File seti_608.jpg has wrong size: expected 9068, got 5992
10/30/2011 12:52:39 PM | SETI@home | [error] Checksum or signature error for seti_608.jpg


... obviously two things appear to be true:
1) your ISP changes .jpg files (ask the ISP to confirm if you wish)
2) the setting "Skip image file verification? yes" is not active in BOINC

Why?
Since you have this line:
10/30/2011 1:00:11 PM | | Reading preferences override file

this means that you at some time set something locally in BOINC Manager preferences.
Even if you changed one value all values are saved and they override the web preferences.

So you have to set:
Skip image file verification? yes
in BOINC Manager preferences:




2429) Questions and Answers : Wish list : more information (Message 1166105)
Posted 29 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

For your problem with 4 green squares for only 2 unfinished tasks check in the file:
...\SMV\smv.ini

that you have not double entries (the same directory twice)

e.g. mine is:

[LogDirs]
H:\Programs.Vis\Science\SMV=1
[BoincDirs]
H:\BOINC-Data=1

[BoincLogDirs]
H:\Programs.Vis\Science\BoincLogX\logs=1

2430) Questions and Answers : Wish list : more information (Message 1166084)
Posted 28 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
quando ho 2 elaborazioni in corso vedo quattro quadrati verdi, cosa significano?
(scusate l' ignoranza)
il computer è questo:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6211660

translated:
processing in progress when I see four 2 green squares, what do they mean?
(sorry for the 'ignorance)
the computer is this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6211660

thanks

You have 2 tasks "In progress"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6211660&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1&appid=

You have to see 2 green squares.
They represent tasks on your computer which are still not processed.

After they are processed you will see some color dots (e.g. yellow, red).
The color represents the power of the signal or the type of the signal.

In S@H-MapView look in:
- menu Data
- menu Settings -> Setup - tab Colors

http://picbg.net/u/65251/47746/590908.png

2431) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Error while downloading (Message 1166023)
Posted 28 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
(I can't understand how some ISPs are doing such stupid things
Or are they Internet Scrap Providers?
)

It speeds up the apparent connection if you are on a slow connection.

Yes, but that's a lie (ISP pretend to deliver faster Internet than in fact it can)
I will not stay on any ISP that changes files in the path Me <--> Servers/sites

This is not "Internet Service", this is "Big Brother (Nineteen Eighty-Four)" which changes "our bytes" for "our own good" ;)

If they are "real" ISPs they have right to compress the traffic but only lossless

2432) Questions and Answers : Windows : Advanced settings for my SETI@home..? (Message 1165917)
Posted 28 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Yesterday: "no way I can tell SETI@home to run only with my GPU?"
Today: "What I want is that all Seti tasks only run with CPU and GPU"

First - Make Up Your Mind
Then - ask how

No one can help you if you can't clearly tell what do you want??

2433) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Error while downloading (Message 1165905)
Posted 28 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Since the error is about seti_608.jpg it's possible that his ISP is re-compressing only .jpg files.
(I can't understand how some ISPs are doing such stupid things
Or are they Internet Scrap Providers?
)

The file is this:
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/seti_608.jpg




It is 8.86 KB (9 068 Bytes) and have MD5 checksum:
75af6760157fdf8b2178971cb8f27851 *seti_608.jpg



The setting can be changed here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global

Skip image file verification? yes

(or in BOINC Manager for every computer)

2434) Message boards : Number crunching : Can't get non-Seti, non-GPU work units? (Message 1165897)
Posted 28 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

... And 20 minutes after your post you received tasks on Rosetta@home
http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/results.php?hostid=1247844

2435) Message boards : Number crunching : Again -9 errors on GTX560Ti with optimized app.! (Message 1165854)
Posted 27 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
That may be, But the MSI version is better as It's more filled out and is newer as it's still being updated, Me I create a shortcut and copy that to the startup folder and I set the shortcut to start minimized and the MSI program starts when My PC does and at the settings that I set It at, no more, no less.

My post was in response to tbret

For me it appears that he hesitates to try/use MSI Afterburner and/or EVGA Precision
I just try to convince him that both are generic and stable utilities which can be used for any brand graphics card (and not only cards made by MSI or EVGA)


More screenshots that show the similarity of
MSI Afterburner and EVGA Precision and that they are based on RivaTuner:









2436) Message boards : Number crunching : Again -9 errors on GTX560Ti with optimized app.! (Message 1165849)
Posted 27 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
@ Bilbg, MSI-Afterburner, has 3 month's older dll's, executables, program looks
completely similar to EVGA-Precision. Probably UPdated and upgraded. And sound
added.

Don't mind the dates at all - I don't have the latest versions
(I have integrated GPU NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 so installed MSI Afterburner and EVGA Precision only of curiosity)


2437) Message boards : Number crunching : Driver update on nVidia GTS250, results in random frozen GPU, system isn't shutting down. (Message 1165836)
Posted 27 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Host
5193721,
was using an older driver 178.xx and worked whitout a problem
with LUNATICs x32f Installer.


If you were running x32f it can't have been 178.xx
With 178.xx you would only have been able to run V12.

Yes, because of this info: "was using an older driver 178.xx and worked without a problem" and "with driver 280.22 ... computer appears frozen"
I proposed to "try 191.07"

But now I think it was a typo - maybe Fred J. Verster wanted to type 278.xx and not 178.xx?

2438) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Multi-core CPUs? (Message 1165829)
Posted 27 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Of course:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/top_hosts.php

2439) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Error while downloading (Message 1165827)
Posted 27 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Can you check now the ThreatFire logs for any blocked today "threats" (files/URLs)?

2440) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Error while downloading (Message 1165823)
Posted 27 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Are you sure that using both Avira AntiVir and ThreatFire real-time protection are not conflicting with each other?

I see Avira is listed as "tested":
http://www.threatfire.com/

... but if tomorrow "Error while downloading" is happening again try to disable only ThreatFire

It does "real-time behavioral analysis" and in fact BOINC acts somehow as trojan -
it downloads automatically .exe files and runs them.


What .exe files do you see (and how big are they in bytes) in:
...\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\

2441) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Error while downloading (Message 1165815)
Posted 27 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Re-booted router. Yes, I use the same Firewall/Antivirus on both. I've tried disabling both the firewall & antivirus with no change. This is what I got back after doing all of the above then a project reset.

10/27/2011 7:28:02 PM | SETI@home | Resetting project
10/27/2011 7:28:04 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
10/27/2011 7:28:04 PM | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA GPU
10/27/2011 7:28:12 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
10/27/2011 7:28:12 PM | SETI@home | Not sending work - last request too recent: 63 sec
10/27/2011 7:28:14 PM | SETI@home | Started download of arecibo_181.png
10/27/2011 7:28:14 PM | SETI@home | Started download of sah_40.png
10/27/2011 7:28:16 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of arecibo_181.png
10/27/2011 7:28:16 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of sah_40.png
10/27/2011 7:28:16 PM | SETI@home | Started download of sah_banner_290.png
10/27/2011 7:28:16 PM | SETI@home | Started download of sah_ss_290.png
10/27/2011 7:28:17 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of sah_banner_290.png
10/27/2011 7:28:17 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of sah_ss_290.png
10/27/2011 7:33:17 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
10/27/2011 7:33:17 PM | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU
10/27/2011 7:33:35 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
10/27/2011 7:33:35 PM | SETI@home | No tasks sent
10/27/2011 7:33:35 PM | SETI@home | No tasks are available for SETI@home Enhanced
10/27/2011 7:33:35 PM | SETI@home | No tasks are available for Astropulse v5
10/27/2011 7:33:35 PM | SETI@home | No tasks are available for Astropulse v505
10/27/2011 7:33:35 PM | SETI@home | This computer has finished a daily quota of 1 tasks

Then it goes to a Communication deferred status for about 5min and tries again with the same results.

I'm also running Enigma@Home which has had no issues downloading or uploading work units on either computer.

Will you tell us which are "the same Firewall/Antivirus" you use?
I use Windows Firewall and NOD32 Antivirus.

"with the same results" - No, these are not "the same results" - you have "Finished download ..."

To overcome "This computer has finished a daily quota of 1 tasks"
you have to just wait ~1 day.

2442) Questions and Answers : Wish list : more information (Message 1165812)
Posted 27 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I don't know why "There are four squares and I have only one unit of work in progress"
Is it on this Computer?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6228953

When you have many tasks completed you will see many dots ("signals"):
http://picbg.net/u/65251/47746/590544.png


I don't understand "I have to look it square?"

If you are using a translator give us both the original Italian text and the translation.

This way I can use "Google Translate" to Bulgarian, Russian and English

2443) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Error while downloading (Message 1165802)
Posted 27 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

5 minutes after my post your Vista computer showed also "Error while downloading"

If you have Router try restarting it.


Do you use the same Firewall and Antivirus on both computers?

2444) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Error while downloading (Message 1165797)
Posted 27 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Since the errors are "Error while downloading" you can try to temporarily switch OFF
your Firewall and your Antivirus and then [Reset project] to see will this help.

(if it helps we can think of enabling some exceptions)

Your other (Vista) computer appears to get tasks OK so you have to think what is different:
- another Internet connection?
- another Firewall?
- another Antivirus?


You say:
"I signed up for Enigma@Home and its working just fine"
Can you give us a link to your Enigma@Home tasks?


Edit:
Sorry: 5 minutes after this my post your Vista computer showed also "Error while downloading"

2445) Message boards : Number crunching : problems keeping system crunching on all 4 cpu's (Message 1165694)
Posted 27 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Since you have this line:
Wed 26 Oct 2011 12:20:58 AM PDT Reading preferences override file

... it means you are already using local preferences.

You can find the local preferences in BOINC Manager menu:
Advanced -> Preferences
(or use Alt+D, P)


If you want to edit the file directly look for:
global_prefs_override.xml
which is in the Data directory: /var/lib/boinc-client


I don't see any strange messages except that only 1 task is started.
I'm not sure was BOINC 6.10.17 a beta of final version.
Try to install BOINC 6.10.58
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

2446) Questions and Answers : Windows : Advanced settings for my SETI@home..? (Message 1165693)
Posted 27 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Go to your SETI@home preferences:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

At the bottom of page click Edit SETI@home preferences
... and change "Use CPU" to No (uncheck it)

At the bottom of page click [Update preferences]


This way you will not receive SETI@home tasks for CPU in the future.
(but the CPU tasks you already have in the computer will continue to run)

2447) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lost SETI project after windows crash (Message 1165678)
Posted 27 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Windows crashed with a BSOD.

So what did it say? A Blue Screen of Death isn't something you shake off without checking upon, it must have happened for a reason.
So why not check in Windows Event Viewer if there's any mention of its cause?

Or try BlueScreenView:
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/blue_screen_view.html

2448) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Time in Berkeley (What the heck are they doing now?) (Message 1165668)
Posted 27 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Reposting the images (they vanished because ploader.net do not work anymore)



Two more options for international time:


1) Set additional Windows clocks (click on clock to set/change the settings)

You will see the clocks by hovering the mouse pointer over the Windows clock:




... or by clicking the clock:






2) Get FoxClocks Add-on for Mozilla Firefox
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/foxclocks/

Set the clocks you want - they will show by hovering the mouse pointer
over the FoxClocks icon in the lower-left corner of the Firefox window:




2449) Message boards : Number crunching : Driver update on nVidia GTS250, results in random frozen GPU, system isn't shutting down. (Message 1165546)
Posted 26 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you want to go for 'older driver' - better is to try 191.07 (and not return to 178.xx)

For your Vista 32 bit Computer 5193721:
NVIDIA DRIVERS 191.07 WHQL - Vista, Windows 7
http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_winvista_32bit_191.07_whql.html


For your other Computers:
NVIDIA DRIVERS 191.07 WHQL - Vista 64-bit, Windows 7 64-bit
http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_winvista_64bit_191.07_whql.html

NVIDIA DRIVERS 191.07 WHQL - XP
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_191.07_whql.html

NVIDIA DRIVERS 191.07 WHQL - XP 64-bit
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp64_191.07_whql.html

2450) Message boards : Number crunching : Again -9 errors on GTX560Ti with optimized app.! (Message 1165516)
Posted 26 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

MSI Afterburner and EVGA Precision are both written by the same author.
And he is the Russian programmer known as Unwinder
You can trust him.

He develops RivaTuner for more than 10 years
(and the above 2 programs are based on the RivaTuner's core, only the GUI/interface is different)

Interview: Alex 'Unwinder' / RivaTuner
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Interviews/Alex_Unwinder/

"Relations with hardware companies
Despite modifying ATI and NVIDIA software and making their job more difficult, Alex says he has a good relationship with both vendors and their product partners."


If you don't believe me that MSI Afterburner and EVGA Precision are almost the same and based on RivaTuner
look at this:




2451) Message boards : Number crunching : problems keeping system crunching on all 4 cpu's (Message 1165511)
Posted 26 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Give us the first ~30 lines of your messages

Your BOINC 6.10.17 have to have Messages tab
Click, Shift-Click to select the part of Starting messages
Use the button [Copy selected messages]

I/we want to see at least the lines in bold as in this example from my computer:

25/10/2011 20:21:44 Starting BOINC client version 6.10.58 for windows_intelx86
25/10/2011 20:21:44 log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task, benchmark_debug
25/10/2011 20:21:44 Libraries: libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.3
25/10/2011 20:21:44 Data directory: H:\BOINC-Data
25/10/2011 20:21:44 Running under account A & L
25/10/2011 20:21:45 Processor: 1 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+ [Family 15 Model 95 Stepping 2]
25/10/2011 20:21:45 Processor: 512.00 KB cache
25/10/2011 20:21:45 Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 pni cx16 syscall nx lm svm rdtscp 3dnowext 3dnow
25/10/2011 20:21:45 OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional x86 Edition, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00)
25/10/2011 20:21:45 Memory: 895.23 MB physical, 1.78 GB virtual
25/10/2011 20:21:45 Disk: 90.00 GB total, 1.42 GB free
25/10/2011 20:21:45 Local time is UTC +3 hours
25/10/2011 20:21:46 No usable GPUs found
25/10/2011 20:21:46 SETI@home Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
25/10/2011 20:21:46 orbit@home URL http://orbit.psi.edu/oah/; Computer ID 43546; resource share 20
25/10/2011 20:21:46 SETI@home URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 4832843; resource share 100
25/10/2011 20:21:47 SETI@home General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 07-Jan-2011 23:28:40)
25/10/2011 20:21:47 SETI@home Computer location: home
25/10/2011 20:21:47 SETI@home General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
25/10/2011 20:21:47 Reading preferences override file
25/10/2011 20:21:47 Preferences:
25/10/2011 20:21:47 max memory usage when active: 492.38MB
25/10/2011 20:21:47 max memory usage when idle: 689.33MB
25/10/2011 20:21:50 max disk usage: 0.30GB
25/10/2011 20:21:50 (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager)
25/10/2011 20:21:50 Using proxy info from GUI
25/10/2011 20:21:50 Not using a proxy
25/10/2011 20:21:50 Suspending computation - initial delay
25/10/2011 20:21:57 SETI@home Restarting task 17se11aa.20205.16427.15.10.182_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 603

2452) Message boards : Number crunching : ~ Temporary Fix for HE connection problems ~ (Message 1165491)
Posted 26 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

This thread goes to the history and becomes from now-on only some kind of "Proxy talk" ;)


But before we "draw the curtains" - here is some more info ...
(How to check "The owner of the IP address, the country/state name" en masse)


Yesterday, while browsing through the excellent and very small (<100 KB) programs by Nir Sofer:
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/

I came across IPNetInfo:
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/ipnetinfo.html

"System Requirements
Windows operating system: Windows 98/ME/2000/XP/2003/Vista.

Description
IPNetInfo is a small utility that allows you to easily find all available information about an IP address:
The owner of the IP address, the country/state name,
IP addresses range, contact information (address, phone, fax, and email), and more."

You can simply copy "raw" text containing IP addresses and paste it into IPNetInfo utility.
IPNetInfo automatically extracts all IP addresses from that "raw" text, and displays the information about these IP addresses.


The screenshot is 1600 x 1144 Pixels (67 KB) so I give link instead if [img][/img]:
http://picbg.net/u/65251/47746/590286.png


This is small part/sample of the "raw" text I pasted into IPNetInfo:
.......
Zealand (Aotearoa)NigerNigeriaPakistanPalestinePanamaParaguayPeruPhilippinesPolandPuerto 
RicoRomaniaRussian FederationSaudi ArabiaSeychellesSingaporeSlovak RepublicSouth 
AfricaSpainSwedenSwitzerlandSyriaTaiwanThailandTrinidad and TobagoTurkeyUkraineUnited 
Arab EmiratesUnited StatesVenezuelaViet NamZambiaZimbabwe  Latency Any latencyLess 
than 1 secLess than 3 secLess than 5 secLess than 10 sec  Reliability Any 
reliabilityMore than 25%More than 50%More than 75%More than 90%  

Proxy selection details - type: Anonymous, country: United States, sorted by 
reliability column, descending  
IP address Port Type  SSL  Country Latency
(msec)  Reliability
(%)  Details 
Get your premium United States HTTP(s) proxy! Sign up for 3 day free trial now!  
216.155.139.115  3128 Anonymous false United States 321 98.64 Details 
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2453) Message boards : Number crunching : a question about gpu crunching (Message 1165294)
Posted 25 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Since I use Total Commander with options to show everything
I usually keep "Hide protected operating system files (Recommended)" selected/checked
to avoid visible desktop.ini files in every folder (full of icons/shortcuts) I customize.


P.S.
And I'm lazy ;)
I used SysExporter to get the string "Hide protected operating system files (Recommended)"
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/sysexp.html


Other beautiful and very small (<100 KB) programs by Nir Sofer
OpenedFilesView
RegScanner
IconsExtract
...
(there are maybe 100s)
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/

2454) Message boards : Number crunching : problems keeping system crunching on all 4 cpu's (Message 1165290)
Posted 25 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You very probably see not SETI but
MilkyWay@Home N-Body Simulation v0.62 (mt)
task running:
http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/results.php?hostid=273415

and mt == Multi-Threaded == uses all cores for 1 task

Check in Windows Task Manager that all cores are at full load.

2455) Message boards : Number crunching : a question about gpu crunching (Message 1165288)
Posted 25 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I'm not in a mood to reboot in Vista now (~3 months I used only XP on this (multi-boot) computer)
but IIRC can't you hit Alt in any folder window (which opens the bar with classic menu)
and find somewhere (Tools? View?) the 'Folder Options' ?

2456) Questions and Answers : Windows : System crashing - only on CUDA units (Message 1165281)
Posted 25 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

e.g. GPU-Z can Log to .txt file the values on Sensors tab
It logs somehow excessive - every 1 second

2457) Message boards : Number crunching : a question about gpu crunching (Message 1165263)
Posted 25 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do you see the extensions of files like .exe .dll .txt on your system?

If not - make sure you change that stupid Windows default setting!

2458) Message boards : Number crunching : Finally?!? (Message 1165241)
Posted 25 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
AstroPulse: based on age, series, and "no double", looks like I need the 2nd option.
MultiBeam: looks like I am out of luck using the ATI GPU here. Both mention a series above mine.

Correct?


Yes, the only option for SETI on your GPU is:
AstroPulse "no double" (aka hybrid ap_5.06_x86_win_SSE_BROOK_NO_DOUBLE_r453.exe (hybrid = uses both CPU & GPU))

2459) Message boards : Number crunching : a question about gpu crunching (Message 1165229)
Posted 25 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If the file is:
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\cc_config.xml

... try to open it by:
1) start Notepad
2) Ctrl+O
3) Copy/Paste the above bold line to open the file directly:





If all is correct you will see something like this:
<cc_config>

   <log_flags>
   </log_flags>

   <options>
      <use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
   </options>

</cc_config>



Now to check the file format:
from Notepad menu:
File -> Save As...

... and tell us what you see?


For the file to work you have to see:
File name: cc_config.xml
Encoding: ANSI

(anything else will NOT work)


My suggestion: never type, use Copy/Paste (and then if needed change "small things" - e.g. 0 to 1)

2460) Message boards : Number crunching : a question about gpu crunching (Message 1165226)
Posted 25 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This location (C:\ProgramData\BOINC) is not where one puts the cc_config.xml file, BOINC won't look for It there


C:\ProgramData\BOINC is the right location for him:

10/23/2011 9:09:46 AM | | Starting BOINC client version 6.12.34 for windows_x86_64
10/23/2011 9:09:46 AM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
10/23/2011 9:09:46 AM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.21.6 OpenSSL/1.0.0d zlib/1.2.5
10/23/2011 9:09:46 AM | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC

2461) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Get SIGSEGV on Astropule Tasks (Message 1165056)
Posted 24 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You may want to see this (problems with Linux stock Astropulse app):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65917

2462) Questions and Answers : Windows : SETI WU's crash PC, but AstroPulse fine (Message 1165041)
Posted 24 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

And what is the CPU Temperature?
(I think AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 640 Processor have 4 internal sensors for every core)

Temperature Monitoring Programs:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62044

2463) Message boards : Number crunching : a question about gpu crunching (Message 1164776)
Posted 23 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
i made the cc_conig.xml notpad doc like you said pu it in C:\ProgramData\BOINC
and i did not get the message you referr to


If you used name like cc_conig.xml it will NOT be recognized/used of course ;)
Rename the file to cc_config.xml

(and NOT cc_config.xml.txt , cc_config.xml.doc)

2464) Questions and Answers : Windows : SETI WU's crash PC, but AstroPulse fine (Message 1164771)
Posted 23 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You can select to receive only Astropulse:

In Your SETI@home preferences:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

Set the options at the bottom of page this way:

SETI@home Enhanced: NO
Astropulse v5: NO (irrelevant/obsolete)
Astropulse v5.05: Yes
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? NO

2465) Questions and Answers : Windows : Screensaver shuts off (Message 1164769)
Posted 23 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Your task (I'm not sure about which XP computer you are talking about, this is from Computer ID 6196123):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2114026914

shows:
boinc_graphics_make_shmem failed

I think something prevents the screensaver to "contact" the graphics (video) driver (screensaver uses OpenGL)

Did you installed BOINC "normally" or as service (daemon, "Protected application execution")?

Can you see the graphics by selecting "Running" task in Tasks tab and clicking the [Show graphics] button?

Can you use OpenGL?:

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/


If you can use OpenGL - you can also try to install BOINC 6.10.60 (Older version)
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

Just Exit the running BOINC (check that boinc.exe and boincmgr.exe are NOT running)
and install over the current installation.

If you later want to go again to 6.12.34 do the same (install 6.12.34 over the 6.10.60)

2466) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Secure password change (Message 1164766)
Posted 23 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
There aren't a "Stop using GridRepublic" option in the "advanced" menu!

There have to be some option - it may not be called "Stop using ..." but Detach or Remove or Delete?

What is shown in Projects tab?

And your new (changed) SETI@home password is (AFAIK) not passed directly
from SETI@home to GridRepublic

I think the path is this:
SETI@home -> your BOINC installation -> GridRepublic

If you Detach your BOINC installation from GridRepublic
no more connections to GridRepublic will be made and they will not receive your password.

http://www.gridrepublic.org/joomla/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=185.msg712

2467) Questions and Answers : Wish list : more information (Message 1164757)
Posted 23 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Install these 2 programs (BoincLogX & SETI@home-MapView):
http://www.bjoernhenke.de/frame.htm?/boinclogx/index.en.htm
http://www.bjoernhenke.de/frame.htm?/smv/index.en.htm

They are old but I don't know of any similar newer programs.


More info (by me and other users) for BoincLogX & SETI@home-MapView (I use them):

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=63288
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60140
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59651
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59363

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=56306
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=56191
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=55895
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=55127

2468) Questions and Answers : Web site : WIll SETI @HOME be offline much longer? (Message 1164752)
Posted 23 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Yes, I see they added more memory, however I still cannot download any work units. I keep getting "communication deferred" message in BOINC. Nothing I can do that I know of but wait.

"Communication deferred" is normal message (NOT error, NOT warning)
- everybody at all times see "Communication deferred" for 5 minutes in Projects tab after [Update]

This delay is enabled at SETI server-side around year ago to:
- avoid too much load on the scheduling server (it asks BOINC to Not try another automatic connection in the next 5 minutes)
- avoid abuse of the [Update] button

(previously the delay was 1 minute)

2469) Message boards : News : Network routing problems have been fixed (Message 1164740)
Posted 23 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The problem seems fixed according to the feedback from many users.

I just wonder why this problem didn't show up earlier?

(The problem was too big list/table to hold all the IP addresses of simultaneously connecting hosts, right?
And you never changed the Keep-Alive time for the active connections?
)

Maybe the problem is/was Not too many hosts per se but too many fast/hungry hosts more often asking for work?
(Using a Proxy helped in this situation - if 1000 hosts "wear" the same Proxy (= use the same external IP as seen from the servers/router) only one IP entry needed in the table and not 1000)


According to the Graphs the Max number of Active Users and Active Hosts
was around Feb 2010:
http://bluenorthernsoftware.com/scarecrow/sahstats/activeusers/








(somebody have explanation for this square peak?)

2470) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC: Turning off autostart? (Message 1164507)
Posted 22 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Sometimes disabling the autostart ("Run Manager at login?") from BOINC Manager Options do not work.

In this case you can use:

MsConfig (from "Run...", WinKey+R)

Or Autoruns
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902

2471) Message boards : Number crunching : AP wu's? (Message 1164490)
Posted 22 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Will my six cores crunch seti enhanced units if the AP runs dry?


Depends on:

1) Your SETI@home preferences:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

Are all the options at the bottom of page set to yes?:

SETI@home Enhanced: yes
Astropulse v5: yes (irrelevant/obsolete)
Astropulse v5.05: yes
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? yes


2) Since you are running anonymous platform it depends also on what apps you have in your app_info.xml

2472) Message boards : Number crunching : a question about gpu crunching (Message 1164485)
Posted 22 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Info about cc_config.xml

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration

http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?language=1&view=91

http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Cc_config.xml

2473) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc and GPU throttling (Message 1164083)
Posted 21 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

And if the game have several .exe files in the install directory add them all (except uninstall.exe), e.g.

<exclusive_gpu_app>GameEXE_1.exe</exclusive_gpu_app>
<exclusive_gpu_app>GameEXE_2.exe</exclusive_gpu_app>
<exclusive_gpu_app>GameEXE_3.exe</exclusive_gpu_app>

Sometimes the shortcut for the game starts one .exe (Loader) which then starts another .exe (the real game) and the Loader exits.

2474) Message boards : Number crunching : No cuda work? (Message 1164080)
Posted 21 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Since you have these lines in the log:

Qui 20 Out 2011 23:16:42 WEST SETI@home General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 15-Oct-2011 09:26:57)
Qui 20 Out 2011 23:16:42 WEST SETI@home Computer location: school
Qui 20 Out 2011 23:16:42 WEST General prefs: using separate prefs for school

... you have to check in the additional/separate preferences for school
that Use Nvidia GPU is set to 'Yes' (checked/marked)

2475) Questions and Answers : Web site : WIll SETI @HOME be offline much longer? (Message 1164069)
Posted 20 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Did you see that they (probably) fixed the connection problem?
Take a look again in the 2 links from the Gatekeeper's post (#2)

2476) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Get SIGSEGV on Astropule Tasks (Message 1164058)
Posted 20 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

CUDA?? - Despite I'm not a Linux expert I will safely say that CUDA here is "double" irrelevant ;)

1. BOINC do not use CUDA, it only detects the GPU (BOINC do not compute any project tasks)

2. Talk here is about Astropulse which is CPU only


If you are talking about this line:
In ap_gfx_main.cpp: in ap_graphics_init(): Starting client.

a. This line is not output from BOINC - it is message from Astropulse app
b. ap_graphics have nothing to do with CUDA - it is just the graphics/screensaver part of the Astropulse app

2477) Questions and Answers : Wish list : CUDA-App for Linux (Message 1164044)
Posted 20 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you use 64-bit Linux there are CUDA apps here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=53611&nowrap=true#1112592

2478) Message boards : Number crunching : ~ Temporary Fix for HE connection problems ~ (Message 1163831)
Posted 20 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you missed this info:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64652&nowrap=true#1163801

Jeff Cobb:

"Eric and I went to the PAIX today and quadrupled the memory in our router.

The router stats indicate that there is now plenty of memory to spare.
But we are still seeing evidence of packet loss from various points around the globe. ..."


In a few days/weeks we'll know will this RAM upgrade fix the "HE connection problems" permanently.

2479) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Scheduler request failed (Message 1163583)
Posted 19 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65842
2480) Questions and Answers : Windows : Screensaver shuts off (Message 1163580)
Posted 19 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

What do you mean by "stop"?

Check which screensaver is set (in Windows screensaver settings) - probably it is set to <None> or timeout is big.

2481) Questions and Answers : Windows : http gateway timeout (Message 1163576)
Posted 19 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

What means "Doesn't work"?

What did you read?
What did you try (where and how)?

2482) Message boards : Number crunching : Not getting work for over a week now.. (Message 1163570)
Posted 19 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If you timeout on the server ping/tracert and resetting router/DNS doesn't help, it's time to look for a proxy...

Do MilkyWay@Home and Einstein@Home utilize some other method or domain for connection? Because as I said, they connect fine - I report and get new work from them regularly. It is only SETI that seems to have the connection issue :|


Every BOINC project can be anywhere on Earth (so is using absolutely different and independent servers/connection).

e.g.:


Host: setiathome.berkeley.edu
IP: 128.32.18.150
Country: UNITED STATES
Region: CALIFORNIA
City: BERKELEY


Host: einstein.phys.uwm.edu
IP: 129.89.61.70
Country: UNITED STATES
Region: WISCONSIN
City: MILWAUKEE


Host: milkyway.cs.rpi.edu
IP: 128.213.23.40
Country: UNITED STATES
Region: NEW YORK
City: TROY


(Info is from "Flag Button" Opera extension
https://addons.opera.com/en/addons/extensions/details/flag-button/

Which in turn uses this site to get the info (IP Geolocation Data):
http://ipinfodb.com/
)

2483) Message boards : Number crunching : ~ Temporary Fix for HE connection problems ~ (Message 1163565)
Posted 19 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Try Hotspot Shield:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64691&nowrap=true#1140754

(if you can install software on that computer)

2484) Questions and Answers : Windows : http gateway timeout (Message 1163161)
Posted 17 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Try (another) Proxy:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65818

2485) Questions and Answers : Web site : Delete seti@home account (Message 1163144)
Posted 17 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Why delete?
Just change the info (Name, Email address, Profile, ...) to something different and never use the account again
(e.g. Email 333@444.555 will "work")

2486) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Credits? what for? (Message 1163140)
Posted 17 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I mean its running in the background and i assume its a good thing for research to help but there is no test or article about BOINC so please help me out with that too.

What do you mean by "no test or article about BOINC"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Open_Infrastructure_for_Network_Computing

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/User_manual


Mind the links "The Unofficial BOINC Wiki" and "The BOINC FAQ Service" on this page:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/BOINC_Help


If you want to know more about SETI@home (e.g. How SETI@home works) click ABOUT at the top and bottom of any page here.

2487) Questions and Answers : Windows : communicatin deferred (Message 1162934)
Posted 16 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Try this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65818

2488) Questions and Answers : Preferences : I can't get no more work from seti@home (Message 1162928)
Posted 16 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65818

2489) Questions and Answers : Web site : Unable to upload for 3+ days (Message 1162919)
Posted 16 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So right now no fix available.

As you can see there is "Temporary Fix" ;)

See my last post with new working USA HTTP Proxy:
174.137.184.36:8080

2490) Message boards : Number crunching : ~ Temporary Fix for HE connection problems ~ (Message 1162916)
Posted 16 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

This USA HTTP Proxy is working now:

16/10/2011 19:03:52 Using proxy info from GUI
16/10/2011 19:03:52 Using HTTP proxy 174.137.184.36:8080
16/10/2011 19:04:15 SETI@home update requested by user
16/10/2011 19:04:17 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
16/10/2011 19:04:17 SETI@home Reporting 1 completed tasks, not requesting new tasks
16/10/2011 19:04:23 SETI@home Scheduler request completed


(216.24.193.211:8080 do NOT work at the moment of this post)

2491) Message boards : Number crunching : Amount of work (Message 1162906)
Posted 16 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The "amount of work" (WU cache) is given in real calendar days.
You don't have to worry when and how you use the computer - BOINC knows/measures it and adapts.

(So for some computers "5 days WU cache" is 1000s of tasks and for some older/slower computers (or computers working for a few hours a day)
the same "5 days WU cache" is just a few tasks (will be downloaded)
)

2492) Questions and Answers : Web site : How to get my name taken off as founder. (Message 1162656)
Posted 15 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Try to click in "Your account" the link "Quit team"

Then (if you want) click "Join this team" on the page for "U.S. Postal Service"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/team_display.php?teamid=110192

I'm not sure this will work (to remove you as Founder), just try.

2493) Questions and Answers : Getting started : 2 different computers on the same account? (Message 1162651)
Posted 15 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

That is correct and now every of your 5 project sites knows about all the 5 "Projects in which Davoud is participating"

2494) Questions and Answers : Getting started : 2 different computers on the same account? (Message 1162421)
Posted 15 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you want to speed up things:
On every of your computers in BOINC Manager select every project and press [Update]

Now I see you participate in:
POEM@HOME
SETI@home
Rosetta@home

These two is from a different computer though.

If "These two" (which?) are only on that computer and that computer is not connected to any of the other (visible here) 3 projects the answer to "How long can it take" is "forever".
(no way for SETI@home to know about them and list them on its page)

2495) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Is it possible to minimize BOINC on startup? (Message 1161401)
Posted 12 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

...\BOINC\boincmgr.exe /s

I think /s stands for SysTray

2496) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC manager turns off my laptop when the lid is closed. Why? (Message 1161195)
Posted 11 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
But if I close the lid while BOINC and the computations are running, the laptop hibernates within few minutes.

Are you sure it really hibernates?

What you see when you open the lid?
E.g. does it say "Resuming from hibernate" (and later you see the yesterday's running programs on the Desktop)
or you see how Windows starts after shutdown?

What happens if you "Snooze" from BOINC Manager systray icon (it will stop the computations for 1 hour) and then close the lid and reopen it after e.g. 20 minutes?

2497) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : How to differentiate CPU from GPU task? (Message 1161194)
Posted 11 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You have ATI/AMD Radeon - SETI still do not have standard Application for ATI/AMD GPUs:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

2498) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Don't Understand Preferences/Can't update profile (Message 1161190)
Posted 11 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Don't run BOINC without some Temperature Monitoring Programs:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62044

2499) Message boards : Number crunching : Call for testers - low-end ATi HD4xxx, part 2 (Message 1161179)
Posted 11 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

OpenGL tests (demos) run indefinitely (until you stop them)
(I don't have OpenCL)

If only the Video RAM/GPU/Video driver/OpenCL DLLs have problems
this will not affect the CPU tasks


You can try OCCT Perestroïka
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65538&nowrap=true#1154040

(GPU:MEMTEST is based on CUDA so will not run on ATI
but GPU:OCCT still can find Video RAM/GPU errors
)



Ok... I tried OCCT , first time it started it disabled GPU memtest , also GPU OCCT , also Power supply... I can't find anyplace that it stored the problem messages , But at least one of them was concerning Direct X , Not being up to date or something like that... I have DX Version 9.0c 4.09.0000.0904

went to windows update and it doesn't show that DX needs updating...
I'm not sure if the Motherboard will support DX higher than what I have...

any suggestions ?


I forget about this - Windows Update do not Update/Upgrade all of DirectX files.
You need to install DirectX End-User Runtimes

I use this version on Windows XP 32 bit (but it supports more - e.g. Windows 7):
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=8109

Search shows - this is the latest version:
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/search.aspx?q=DirectX+End-User+Runtimes


The files installed:




DxDiag still shows this version:



2500) Message boards : Number crunching : ~ Temporary Fix for HE connection problems ~ (Message 1161175)
Posted 11 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Try several times to [Update] - sometimes a proxy can refuse to connect just for a moment.
I tried now - and it works:

11/10/2011 11:23:37 Using proxy info from GUI
11/10/2011 11:23:37 Using HTTP proxy 216.24.193.211:8080
11/10/2011 11:23:47 SETI@home update requested by user
11/10/2011 11:23:51 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
11/10/2011 11:23:51 SETI@home Not reporting or requesting tasks
11/10/2011 11:23:54 SETI@home Scheduler request completed


Also look if this graph shows NO traffic for everybody:
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets;ranges=d

If green is Low (near zero) - NO one can Download
If blue is Low (near zero) - NO one can Upload or make Scheduler request

2501) Questions and Answers : Windows : Problem with communication deferred all the time now (Message 1160910)
Posted 10 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Go to Message boards : Number crunching
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_forum.php?id=10

Read the 2 threads near the top:
HE connection problems thread
~ Temporary Fix for HE connection problems ~

In short - try to use a Proxy, e.g. HTTP proxy 216.24.193.211:8080

2502) Message boards : Number crunching : My First Astropulse Unit (Message 1160903)
Posted 10 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I've just received my first astropulse unit (estimated 36+ hours).
a) is a separate application to be downloaded to analyse these?
b) Are there any user-controls to manage the selection/allocation of units - I would prefer not to receive such large chunks of data for analysis.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@yyyyy.com

And never post your email addresses in open forums

BOINC automatically downloads application needed for given type of task and given type of device (CPU/GPU)

In ...\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\
you now (have to) have 2 applications (.exe) -
one for SETI@home Enhanced v6.03 (CPU)
one for Astropulse v505 v5.05 (CPU)

2503) Message boards : Number crunching : Call for testers - low-end ATi HD4xxx, part 2 (Message 1160847)
Posted 10 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

OpenGL tests (demos) run indefinitely (until you stop them)
(I don't have OpenCL)

If only the Video RAM/GPU/Video driver/OpenCL DLLs have problems
this will not affect the CPU tasks


You can try OCCT Perestroïka
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65538&nowrap=true#1154040

(GPU:MEMTEST is based on CUDA so will not run on ATI
but GPU:OCCT still can find Video RAM/GPU errors
)

2504) Message boards : Number crunching : Call for testers - low-end ATi HD4xxx, part 2 (Message 1160835)
Posted 10 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

GPU Caps Viewer have OpenGL and OpenCL tests (demos) - try them.

2505) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC manager turns off my laptop when the lid is closed. Why? (Message 1160625)
Posted 9 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

What you mean by "off"?
Sleep, hibernate, shutdown?

Usually every laptop sleeps if you close the lid.

If you changed this setting and laptop continues to run with closed lid
and you are on battery
and you set (allowed) the computations to run on battery
no wonder in the morning you see the laptop "off" (battery 0%)

If you are NOT on battery and the computations run with closed lid (bad cooling)
the laptop overheats and switches itself OFF to prevent damage to the CPU.

2506) Questions and Answers : Windows : Boinc Installation on Windows7 64bit (Message 1160620)
Posted 9 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Which "account manager" do you use? (e.g. BAM!)

Did you Attach from BOINC Manager to "account manager" (e.g. BAM!)?
(and NOT to SETI project directly which in your case is not the proper action (I think))

2507) Questions and Answers : Windows : Problem with new version of BOINC (Message 1160615)
Posted 9 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The message is not about your real free HDD space - it is about the amount of space you allow BOINC to use (and BOINC needs more).
(you can have 100 GB free HDD but BOINC uses only up to the amount you allow in preferences)

Look in the Disk tab

In preferences (both on web and locally) there are 3 values which you have to check.

I think climateprediction.net have very big tasks (1 GB ?)

2508) Message boards : Number crunching : Призраки?... (Message 1160603)
Posted 9 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Я понимаю русский, но не могу писать правильно так что...
I understand Russian but can't write properly so...

Yes, we here call them exactly "Ghost Work Units" (Призраки)
Staff at SETI lab call them "lost results"

And here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65702

You can see:
"Meanwhile we turned off "resend lost results" until the smoke clears a bit."

... so these "Ghost Work Units" will stay for a while for everybody.

After they (the staff at SETI lab) enable again "resend lost results" you will automatically receive these "lost" tasks.


"ghost workunits":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65043

"The message requesting work got from your computer to the server,
but the response from the server with the assigned tasks got lost in transit. "

2509) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : How to differentiate CPU from GPU task? (Message 1160593)
Posted 9 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The task files (e.g. 20ap11ad.22038.9883.8.10.220) are the same not matter which app/device will process them.

Meaning if you look inside such task file you will not see anything that can inform you what device on your computer will process the task.

A task file (for SETI@home Enhanced) look like this inside:
<workunit>
<workunit_header>
  <name>20ap11ad.22038.9883.8.10.220</name>
  <group_info>
    <tape_info>
      <name>20ap11ad</name>
      <start_time>2455672.1802263</start_time>
      <last_block_time>2455672.1802263</last_block_time>
      <last_block_done>9883</last_block_done>
      <missed>0</missed>
      <tape_quality>0</tape_quality>
      <beam>5</beam>
    </tape_info>
    <name>20ap11ad.22038.9883.8.10</name>
    <data_desc>
      <start_ra>2.0868110548832</start_ra>
      <start_dec>32.724148238801</start_dec>
      <end_ra>2.11669460206</end_ra>
      <end_dec>32.724112185166</end_dec>
      <true_angle_range>0.37710791792417</true_angle_range>
      <time_recorded>Wed Apr 20 16:19:31 2011</time_recorded>
...
...
...
B+_*#;$?GQ:+$O,*'8U+8Y%7 [4U["*%CMWB<FL%DFRRTS>%65J\.9I-CIV^Q,21
'4MZ"QSZ0^E);"\6T8.DS<#,NIT>2>$)LBWD=VYG9EUPJ5$B,8]1)0NIU*=^?3R>
KF;$[;BPX0;)9@QA?<)K*   
</data>
</workunit>   



BOINC decides which device needs work and how much and asks the servers to send tasks.
The tasks itself are the same but some info for them (e.g. filename, md5_cksum, for which device/app they are sent) goes to you in sched_reply_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml

This task-describing info is then put by BOINC in client_state.xml

So the task files are the same, only the additional info describing them is different.
This additional info (e.g. for CPU or GPU) is generated at the time of your communication with the servers and not before.

The same task can be "labeled" in many different ways depending what "you" ask for.
( ;) Like some fake-beverage dealer can put the same whisky in different brand/label bottles)


In BOINC Manager -> Tasks tab -> Application column you can tell the difference (the target device) by version:
- setiathome_enhanced 6.03 (or <6.03) is for CPU
- setiathome_enhanced 6.08 (or >6.08) is for GPU


Look here for the (standard) versions:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php


2510) Message boards : Number crunching : ~ Temporary Fix for HE connection problems ~ (Message 1159712)
Posted 7 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I checked again just now (see the time of post), this proxy works:

07/10/2011 11:37:51 Using proxy info from GUI
07/10/2011 11:37:51 Using HTTP proxy 216.24.193.211:8080
07/10/2011 11:38:04 SETI@home update requested by user
07/10/2011 11:38:07 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
07/10/2011 11:38:07 SETI@home Not reporting or requesting tasks
07/10/2011 11:38:10 SETI@home Scheduler request completed

2511) Message boards : Number crunching : ~ Temporary Fix for HE connection problems ~ (Message 1158800)
Posted 4 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

How to filter working/reliable HTTP Proxy servers:

Get this small program - Proxy Checker
http://www.freeproxy.ru/en/programs/
http://www.freeproxy.ru/en/programs/proxy_checker.htm

!!! Proxy Checker - DIRECT LINK
http://www.freeproxy.ru/download/P_Checker.exe

The file P_Checker.exe (332 KB) is SFX RAR archive so extract it somewhere.
Obviously the file to run next is PPrx_Chk.exe


* Go to any web site/page with Anonymous Open Proxy Lists.
On www.xroxy.com you can choose the country you prefer, e.g.:
http://www.xroxy.com/proxylist.php?type=Anonymous&country=US
http://www.xroxy.com/proxylist.php?type=Anonymous&country=CA

http://www.xroxy.com/proxylist.php?type=Anonymous&country=GB
http://www.xroxy.com/proxylist.php?type=Anonymous&country=DE
http://www.xroxy.com/proxylist.php?type=Anonymous&country=FR
http://www.xroxy.com/proxylist.php?type=Anonymous&country=NL

http://www.xroxy.com/proxylist.php?type=Anonymous&country=AU


Save the page as Text file (.txt)
(Proxy Checker can analyze/parse also .html but not always is able to find the Proxy addresses - "garbage" (tags) on some sites/pages fool it)


* Run the Proxy Checker

To make it find reliable HTTP Proxy servers raise the "Number of retries" to 2 (this is the max possible).
Every Proxy will be checked 2 times to pass the test.




Open the saved Text file and give/type some name for the out file:





* After the out file is generated and you pick some Proxy
don't forget to Check/confirm the origin of the IP address:

http://clientn.real-hide-ip.com/map/whatismyip.php
http://ipinfodb.com/
http://country.my-proxy.com/

http://www.ip-secrets.com/land.php
http://whatismyipaddress.com/
http://www.ip-adress.com/ip_tracer/

http://geo.flagfox.net/


* Now you can enter the Proxy in BOINC and hope it will work:




This all is done in a few minutes (after you become familiar with the procedure) -
I think it's faster than if you try every Proxy in BOINC,
maybe faster than you read this post,
and way faster than me writing it ;)


This USA HTTP Proxy is working at the moment for BOINC:
216.24.193.211:8080

2512) Message boards : Number crunching : Is this new , a WU with AR=0.407782, but found 31 signals, is treated as normal, not a -9 (Message 1157689)
Posted 1 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I think 30 (or 31?) signals of the same kind is "overflow", not grand total of all signals.

2513) Message boards : Number crunching : Request help moving WUs to a different computer (Message 1157654)
Posted 1 Oct 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
However, I have a laptop which has over a dozen WUs it is unlikely to get to for days because I had it load some WUs from the "Climate Prediction" project prior to the crash.

Just [Suspend] the "Climate Prediction" project (from the "Projects" tab) for a few days to get the SETI time to run.


Is there an easy way to move WUs without losing the current contents of the data folder?

No, and that's intentional to avoid cheating (by reporting the same task's result several times to get more "Credit")

(You can move the entire BOINC (if you know what you are doing!) with all the Projects/Tasks to another computer but then the laptop will have to start a new
(or you have to be VERY advanced user to move the BOINC Data directory to another computer to be crunched and then back from it to the laptop to report the work - Do NOT try this!)
)


I tried just moving the WUs and restarting the clients but neither notices the addition or subraction of WUs

BOINC will not see any files you add - they have to be described in another file/list (to say it simply)
And even if they will be added in that list - they can't be reported as the server expects the tasks to be bound to particular HostID (the server will refuse the results)

2514) Questions and Answers : Windows : Y U NO RECEIVE RESULTS? (Message 1156541)
Posted 27 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You can't ask "why you" (Y U) because SETI staff (of 2-3 people) do not read here.

Go to: COMMUNITY -> Message boards -> Number crunching:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_forum.php?id=10

Read especially the threads:
HE connection problems thread
~ Temporary Fix for HE connection problems ~

2515) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Current Problems? (Message 1156529)
Posted 27 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Explain: "current problems with the system"
What are your problems and what you call "the system"?

For "current" info you go here (COMMUNITY -> Message boards):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_index.php

and choose "Number crunching" or "Technical News", "News"

In "Number crunching" there are threads like:
HE connection problems thread
~ Temporary Fix for HE connection problems ~
Panic Mode On (...) Server problems?
This computer has reached a limit on tasks in progress
...


The most current technical info links (where you may spot when/if problems exist globally and not only for you):

http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html

2516) Message boards : Number crunching : upgraded graphics card, now CUDA work units won't crunch (Message 1156522)
Posted 27 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I changed "Use at most 99% of computer time" to 100% and switched "Use at most 8 processors" to 10 and that fixed it.

"that" can't fix it - it was just coincidence.

(Crossing your fingers and pray to SETI gods would have the same effect. Try it Now! ;) )
(and "Use at most X processors" is old (obsolete) setting - its value is not used by current BOINC)

When your BOINC asks for both CPU and GPU work servers send first GPU work.
Only when your GPU is full of work and BOINC asks for CPU work servers will send it.
(this above holds only if there are any tasks available at SETI servers)


If you want to force the things - use the advice given by Khangollo

(Setting "Use NVIDIA GPU" to NO will not stop your GPU to work on the tasks it has already in the computer,
it will only stop new downloads of GPU tasks this way forcing BOINC to ask/download only CPU work.

Set "Use NVIDIA GPU" to Yes again when you are done with CPU work downloads.
)

2517) Message boards : Number crunching : ~ Temporary Fix for HE connection problems ~ (Message 1156160)
Posted 26 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Richard Haselgrove reported having sometimes also DNS errors
(due to his ISP's automatically assigned DNS Servers not always working good):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64652&nowrap=true#1156051


For those of you having DNS problems (and for those just curious)
I recommend this small program (DNSBench.exe - 163 KB)
which in a few minutes allows you to choose good working DNS Servers:
https://www.grc.com/dns/benchmark.htm

Choose a few DNS Servers from the top of the list and shown with green circle O


I use the DNS Servers shown in bold on the screenshot, i.e.:
8.8.4.4
8.8.8.8
...





2518) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : More than one WU per GPU at the same time ? (Message 1156137)
Posted 26 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You forget to follow Gundolf's suggestion:
Post the first ~40 lines from BOINC "Event log"

Press Ctrl-Shift-E (or find "Event log" in the menus)
Mark the first ~40 lines (Click ... Shift-Click)
There have to be button [Copy selected]

Without that info we can't think much about your problem.

2519) Message boards : Number crunching : Merge computer issue (Message 1155876)
Posted 25 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

We can see that "Computer 6131208" - "Created 11 Aug 2011 | 15:31:58 UTC"
but for "Computer 4689355" we can see only "Last contact 11 Aug 2011" (no time info)

What you see for "Last time contacted server" in details for your "Computer 4689355"?

2520) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : More than one WU per GPU at the same time ? (Message 1155870)
Posted 25 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
yes but you need more then 1 video card

NO, you don't need "more then 1 video card" (to run "More than one WU per GPU at the same time")

(and TOM's question is answered long ago)

2521) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : More than one WU per GPU at the same time ? (Message 1155852)
Posted 25 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Phenom II X3 has 3 cores

If "five CUDA work units running" BOINC will think this:
0.68 CPU * 5 CUDA tasks = 3.4 cores (CPUs) "needed"
so BOINC will not run any CPU tasks

(in fact 1 CUDA task will use only 5-10% of CPU core (= 0.05-0.10 CPU) but the setting/info that it "needs" 0.68 CPU is defined/set/send to anybody using the standard CUDA apps by the SETI servers)

But how BOINC decided to run at once 5 CUDA tasks on 2 GPUs without your intervention is beyond me.


Edit:
Stderr shows that 3 GPUs are detected:
setiathome_CUDA: Found 3 CUDA device(s):
   Device 1 : GeForce GTX 280 
           totalGlobalMem = 1058865152 
           sharedMemPerBlock = 16384 
           regsPerBlock = 16384 
           warpSize = 32 
           memPitch = 2147483647 
           maxThreadsPerBlock = 512 
           clockRate = 1296000 
           totalConstMem = 65536 
           major = 1 
           minor = 3 
           textureAlignment = 256 
           deviceOverlap = 1 
           multiProcessorCount = 30 
   Device 2 : GeForce GTX 280 
           totalGlobalMem = 1058865152 
           sharedMemPerBlock = 16384 
           regsPerBlock = 16384 
           warpSize = 32 
           memPitch = 2147483647 
           maxThreadsPerBlock = 512 
           clockRate = 1350000 
           totalConstMem = 65536 
           major = 1 
           minor = 3 
           textureAlignment = 256 
           deviceOverlap = 1 
           multiProcessorCount = 30 
   Device 3 : nForce 980a/780a SLI 
           totalGlobalMem = 521732096 
           sharedMemPerBlock = 16384 
           regsPerBlock = 8192 
           warpSize = 32 
           memPitch = 2147483647 
           maxThreadsPerBlock = 512 
           clockRate = 1200000 
           totalConstMem = 65536 
           major = 1 
           minor = 1 
           textureAlignment = 256 
           deviceOverlap = 0 
           multiProcessorCount = 1 
setiathome_CUDA: No device specified, determined to use CUDA device 1: GeForce GTX 280
SETI@home using CUDA accelerated device GeForce GTX 280


Strange part here is "No device specified" (meaning: BOINC started CUDA task but "forget" to tell the setiathome_CUDA app what to use to run it)
And because of this it seems that many of your tasks show "determined to use CUDA device 1" (determined by setiathome_CUDA app, not by BOINC)

(if you don't use the integrated in the chipset nForce 980a/780a SLI you can disable it in the BIOS)


But sometimes the info is:
setiathome_CUDA: Found 1 CUDA device(s):
   Device 1 : GeForce GTX 280 
           totalGlobalMem = 1026228224 
           sharedMemPerBlock = 16384 
           regsPerBlock = 16384 
           warpSize = 32 
           memPitch = 2147483647 
           maxThreadsPerBlock = 512 
           clockRate = 1296000 
           totalConstMem = 65536 
           major = 1 
           minor = 3 
           textureAlignment = 256 
           deviceOverlap = 1 
           multiProcessorCount = 30 
setiathome_CUDA: CUDA Device 1 specified, checking...
   Device 1: GeForce GTX 280 is okay
SETI@home using CUDA accelerated device GeForce GTX 280


Do you often enable/disable GPUs or SLI?
(or you added the second GeForce GTX 280 recently?)

2522) Message boards : Number crunching : Merge computer issue (Message 1155436)
Posted 23 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

So you go to the "Details" page of the given computer
then at the bottom of the page click "Merge"
and get response: "No hosts are eligible for merging with this one."

Then you have to click on "Show details" and see what is the reason.

E.g. for one of my computers it displays (but I have no duplicate records):

Host 3815859 has overlapping lifetime: (30 May 2007 - 15 Sep 2011), (19 Sep 2007 - 22 Aug 2010)
Host 4832843 has overlapping lifetime: (30 May 2007 - 15 Sep 2011), (8 Mar 2009 - 23 Sep 2011)
Host 5732288 has overlapping lifetime: (30 May 2007 - 15 Sep 2011), (4 Jan 2011 - 26 Jun 2011)
No hosts are eligible for merging with this one.

2523) Message boards : Number crunching : Public beta for nVidia AstroPulse, rev 521 (Message 1155422)
Posted 23 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"x64 bit app" may be discussed only considering compatibility with 64 bit OS.

You will not see increase in performance from "x64 bit app" here
because "64 bit" refers to integer instructions but most of what SETI uses are floating point instructions (on CPU).

And this thread is about GPU app so the "64 bit" capabilities of CPU and OS almost doesn't matter.


I seem to remember they tried a 64 bit version for APs but it didn't make much difference and might have been a bit slower

This post by jason_gee explains this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=63400&nowrap=true#1091319

"64 bit CUDA device code is slower due to double the pointer address sizes"
(64 bit pointers instead of 32 bit (32 bit can address 4 GB RAM so unless video RAM is >4 GB the GPU app do not need 64 bit pointers))

"A 64 bit CPU host & CUDA device code application would be slower (yes, have tested this)..."

2524) Message boards : Number crunching : HE connection problems thread (Message 1155413)
Posted 23 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I would like to have my system but more then not there seems to be no way to get or send finished work

If it was true how then you can have 86 Valid tasks?:
Valid tasks for computer 6075732
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6075732&offset=0&show_names=0&state=3&appid=

(obviously you were able to get tasks and send finished work (= you were able to connect OK to at least 3 SETI servers))


Yes, After reading the answers to my post I did uninstall Boinc.

If you think that the uninstall of BOINC will remove all the files you are very wrong.
Where to go to delete the remaining files - find by yourself (in many other threads on the forum you can find clues).

2525) Message boards : Number crunching : MSI (Message 1155086)
Posted 23 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thanks BilBig ...

Thanks for "Thanks" but I'm not Big, I'm instead Fat ;)

Look my Karting video to see how it (the Karting) struggles to take me around the corners ;)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/view_profile.php?userid=8647488


(BilBg just means that I'm from .bg )

2526) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC Manager or SETI issue? (Message 1155073)
Posted 23 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Explain: "when I crunch SETI, I only get one process (CPU) running for MW or WC"
If you see only one process how you can "crunch SETI" and at the same time MW?

I think you see only (one) MW task running.
As I read somewhere MW have multi-threaded apps that occupy all cores.

So can you simply say: "I see these tasks running":
e.g.
on (two core) CPU:
1 MW task
0 WC tasks
0 SETI tasks
0 Collatz tasks

on (two) GPUs:
0 MW tasks
0 WC tasks
1 SETI task
1 Collatz task


Check in Windows Task Manager that all the CPU cores are at full load (no idle core)

2527) Message boards : Number crunching : MSI (Message 1155064)
Posted 22 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I thought you folks were BOINC gurus?

If you can find the word "BOINC" (or at least boinc, bonic, bionic, bionc) in your first post I will send you ... well ..., ... my best wishes ;)

2528) Message boards : Number crunching : MSI (Message 1155062)
Posted 22 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
OK Thank God I had a backup of the program and was able to restore only the program itself.

You continue to say just "the program".
And All "the program" (BOINC) versions are here:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/?C=M;O=A


My question is this...the Messages box says there is a new download to BOINC ...... should I not download this? or should I leave it alone and let it come with downloaded workunits?

You can safely stay on BOINC 6.10.58 or 6.12.33 if it works for you.
(6.12.34 have known install problems)

2529) Message boards : Number crunching : MSI (Message 1155056)
Posted 22 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

This is not chat-room - you have [Edit] button above your posts for a full hour after posting ...

2530) Message boards : Number crunching : MSI (Message 1155045)
Posted 22 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
why is it everytime a recommended download shows up on my computer, I download it and it screws up everything.

What are you talking about??
What recommended download?
Never something "shows up on (just the) computer", anytime any message is shown by some program.
So which program shows that message?
What is the exact message?


Now I`m trying to install the new version and it won`t find the installer

"new version" of what??

(and "new version" is like "BIG animal"
What is bigger? BIG cat or small Tiger?
What is Newer? New York of Old computer?

Give the exact version number, exact filename of the installer, exact download link ... to make people understand you.
)


P.S.
And forgive my ignorance but what is "MSI"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSI

(some mainboard of "Micro-Star International" was what I expected clicking on the thread link)

2531) Questions and Answers : Web site : error (Message 1155009)
Posted 22 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The task I was referring to showed 100% completion

Any crashed task will show 100% completion.
The % goes instantly from e.g. 1% to 100%
But if you look at Elapsed/Run time you may see e.g. 00:00:01 (= 1 sec)


BTW, I forgot about the other two machines.

"Computers belonging to Eric" and "active in past 30 days" are six ;)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=8305513


The only Error on all six computers that is still shown on the web:
Error tasks for computer 6074488
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6074488&offset=0&show_names=1&state=5&appid=

It shows many "Restarted at 3.70 percent" (so it was very probably not computed to 100%) and:
"process got signal 11"
"No heartbeat from core client for 30 sec - exiting" (= computer was probably at heavy HDD load at the moment, nothing to worry about)
"SIGSEGV: segmentation violation"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2060749982

Another Linux machine also crashed it but Windows 7 machine successfully completed it (using optimized app):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=811083074

Nothing to worry about if this happens occasionally.

2532) Questions and Answers : Preferences : work unit limits (Message 1154848)
Posted 22 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You need these settings:

SETI@home Enhanced: yes
Astropulse v5: no
Astropulse v5.05: no
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? no

2533) Questions and Answers : Web site : error (Message 1154837)
Posted 22 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm concerned that with such errors that my committed processing time to the effected SETI projects may be wasted.

SETI == project
What you get from SETI project (singular, not plural) are tasks.
What you send back to SETI project's servers are results.


Especially when I have computational errors for a completed project.

And how you can get computational errors if you think your computer successfully completed SETI task?
If you are unable (for a moment) to download/upload to SETI servers - this in no way will cause the task to be shown as "computational error".

If it is/was really shown as computational error then your computer really crashed the task (nothing related to net problems)
(the SETI application/program which analyzes the task and computes the result crashed).

You for sure had seen different programs to crash from time to time (e.g. "Invalid instruction").
It can happen (occasionally) also during SETI computations (considering the computer is at heavy load)
if the CPU/GPU/RAM work unstable (e.g. overclock) or some software conflict (e.g. with drivers, antivirus) shows up.


News on net problems:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65562

2534) Message boards : Number crunching : Get some artefacts with Seti CUDA WUs. (Message 1154040)
Posted 20 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You can use tests ("demos") in GPU Caps Viewer to check the stability of your card:
http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/


Another program to stress-test and artifact-test the GPU/video-RAM and CPU/RAM is OCCT Perestroïka:
http://www.ocbase.com/perestroika_en/index.php?Download

(The links for Download are at the bottom of the page:
...
Auto-Install
ZIP File
)






In "GPU:OCCT"
- Set the "Resolution" the same as your normal desktop Resolution/Hz
- Enable "Error Check" and "FullScreen"

Run several tests at different "Shader Complexity"
(To not wait too long you may first try not the default 1 hour but shorter e.g. 10-15 minutes tests)

! Look closely for the GPU temperature during the tests!

(Exit BOINC before any tests)

2535) Questions and Answers : Web site : error (Message 1153736)
Posted 19 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you want to use older BOINC version use 6.10.60
(and not 6.8.13 which was never released as final, they jumped from 6.6.x to 6.10.x)
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

2536) Questions and Answers : Getting started : How to get back old account ? (Message 1150129)
Posted 8 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Actually, if it was 2001, it would have been a classic account. If you reclaim it with the classic users link from the home page, that would work if you had not already reclaimed it.

Or I (anybody!) can "reclaim" (STEAL) it since F6JIG revealed his 2 email addresses!!!
Posting own (even old) email addresses in any open forum in the world is calling for trouble.

F6JIG have to read - everything is clearly explained in all the previous posts in this thread.
I will NOT repeat myself.

2537) Message boards : Number crunching : PCI (not express) CUDA card ? (Message 1148785)
Posted 4 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
WHERE TO BUY ... You'll see several places you can purchase that particular card. Not one site labels that card as a PCI. all of them do call it a PCI express 2.0 card

Don't expect correct info from sellers - they just copy "something" from "somewhere" to present some "info".
They are not engineers - they only want to earn money (economists).

They don't know exactly what they sell - everything is just "part-number" - you want it, they sell it.

2538) Message boards : Number crunching : PCI (not express) CUDA card ? (Message 1148775)
Posted 4 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
please explain how even the manufacturer doesn't even recognize a PCI version of the 430

Which manufacturer? nVidia?
Maybe because the GPU chip itself have only logic to directly connect to PCIe
and to be possible to connect to PCI as on these cards the manufacturer of the card (Zotac, Sparkle)
needed to use third-party bridge chips to transform the PCIe signals to PCI and vice versa.

2539) Message boards : Number crunching : How to setup Fermi GPU for 2+ Work Units (Message 1148756)
Posted 4 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do you compare only tasks which have very similar "WU true angle range"?

As you know there are "short" and "long" running tasks (sometimes 4-5x run time difference just because of the "angle range").

2540) Questions and Answers : Windows : RDP and GPU availability (Message 1148738)
Posted 4 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"Remote Desktop" is incompatible with any GPU computing because Microsoft decided to use (switch to) another generic (old) video driver during RDP
and this way disables the installed video driver which supports the GPU computing.

You have to use something like TeamViewer, LogMeIn, VNC which don't play with the video driver.

(for search you have to try "Advanced search" on 1 year period

Or search in Google this way:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Remote+Desktop+site%3Asetiathome.berkeley.edu
)

2541) Message boards : Number crunching : How to setup Fermi GPU for 2+ Work Units (Message 1148535)
Posted 3 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Boinc finally sees the GTX550Ti as a fermi card and has started sending fermi tasks. Previously all I was getting was 6.08 & 6.09 WUs. Boinc has also identified the Tesla card as a fermi and has begun sending it fermi WUs as well. When both cards are set to 1 WU at a time the average times are about 15 minutes for each card. When Seti stabilizes I will try 2 WUs on each. During the recent Seti troubles my RAC saw a drop of about 8K and is very slowly recovering.
Thank you & Joseph for you're help!

On both GPUs you run the Lunatics app:
Multibeam x32f Preview, Cuda 3.0
Lunatics_x32f_win32_cuda30_preview.exe

(which by the way is from the older installer:
Lunatics_Win32v0.37_AP505r409_AKv8b_Cudax32f.exe
Lunatics_Win64v0.37_(SSE3+)_AP505r409_AKv8bx64_Cudax32f.exe

The newer is
Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe
from the:
Lunatics_Win32_v0.38_setup.exe
Lunatics_Win64_v0.38_setup.exe
)


So there is absolutely NO difference how the tasks/WUs are marked/labeled/branded: 6.08 6.09 or 6.10
- all the task files are exactly the same and the app computing them is exactly the same - it is clear if you check this in your app_info.xml


Edit:
But maybe you just installed Lunatics_Win64_v0.38_setup.exe

The older v0.37 installer lists the versions in app_info.xml in this order:
<version_num>608</version_num>
<version_num>609</version_num>
<version_num>610</version_num>

The newer v0.38 installer lists the versions in app_info.xml in this order:
<version_num>610</version_num>
<version_num>609</version_num>
<version_num>608</version_num>


That is the only reason you see now 6.10 (cuda_fermi) marked/labeled tasks
- NOT that somehow BOINC detects the GPU as cuda_fermi (and your Tesla is NOT cuda_fermi as Richard noted!)

The Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe can run on all the CUDA GPUs (fermi or not fermi)

2542) Message boards : Number crunching : Delay Bonic for 5-10 min after computer starts (Message 1148494)
Posted 3 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You may also try Startup Delayer:

http://www.r2.com.au/page/products/show/startdelay


2543) Questions and Answers : Getting started : How to get back old account ? (Message 1147975)
Posted 1 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I still have a problem with my old group :
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/team_display.php?teamid=49173

I can't manage it because the owner is my old account, how can I do ?

I think you can claim ownership of a team and if the current owner doesn't object within a month, you'll become the new owner. But since I'm not involved with teams either, I'm not quite sure.

Gruß,
Gundolf


To do so:

1) Go to the page of "SGCPP" team:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/team_display.php?teamid=49173
and click "Join this team" link

2) After the new "Benoit RAVIER" (User ID 9561169) becomes member of "SGCPP" team you will see the link (click it):
Team foundership change - Initiate request

3) You will see the page:

If the team founder is not active and you want to assume the role of founder, click the button below. The current founder will be sent an email detailing your request, and will be able to transfer foundership to you or to decline your request. If the founder does not respond in 60 days, you will be allowed to become the founder.

Are you sure you want to request foundership?

[Request foundership]

2544) Questions and Answers : Getting started : How to get back old account ? (Message 1147921)
Posted 1 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Yes, I see the date to the left of the posts changed to "Joined: 5 Apr 00"

But we have to wait a few hours (?) before the database shows the correct info here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=9561169

(it is still "SETI@home member since 31 Aug 2011" despite I pressed F5, Ctrl-F5, used CCleaner to delete the browser cache)


Yes I did but I wasn't connected with my new account.
Now I have try being connected and it has worked fine, thank you !

I wonder what was the error message when you tried it the first time (when "but I wasn't connected with my new account")?


About the "group"/team - I don't have my own team, so I don't know what is possible.

2545) Questions and Answers : Getting started : How to get back old account ? (Message 1147895)
Posted 1 Sep 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm sorry but I don't understand very well your answers.

I would only like to know how how to contact the Seti accounts administrator ?

With the online web pages it's impossible for me to log in into my old account because I've forget my old password and I have no more access to the email that was used for the login id.

Thank you


Did you even try the "Claim your SETI@home Classic workunits" link
posted in the first reply to you?

! You must be logged-in your current (new) account when you try this!

This (I hope) will make the 2 accounts to merge.
(Which answers your first question: "What I have to do for 'transferring' my old account to the new one ?")


Obviously you also did not follow the link in my second post, else you would know that:
"These accounts were not given passwords (i.e., they can't be accessed using any password)"

"how to contact the Seti accounts administrator" - I don't know is there such person at all.
And even if "he" exists I doubt he will have the time to deal with every little "problem" of millions of users.

2546) Questions and Answers : Getting started : How to get back old account ? (Message 1147661)
Posted 31 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Your old account is definitely a BOINC account that already has your Classic account linked, so BilBg's link is not applicable in this situation.


According to this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic.php

"When we launched SETI@home/BOINC, we created accounts for all SETI@home Classic users, with their existing email addresses. Each account includes the number of SETI@home Classic workunits completed, the CPU time, and the start date. These accounts were not given passwords (i.e., they can't be accessed using any password)."

As this happened back in 2005 I wonder how the "real Classic account" look like
and are there "real Classic accounts" in existence today
(as they were automatically converted to "preliminary" BOINC accounts)?


Yes. You can tell whether it is a migrated Classic account or a new account by the user ID. I don't remember the switch over point, but there was a gap of a million or so. The BOINC user ID for a converted classic account is the rank at the time of conversion. My account is a converted classic account.

User IDs under a million are all converted Classic accounts.


So this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=169765
is "real Classic account" (converted to "preliminary" BOINC account)?

And this link can be used?:
Claim your SETI@home Classic workunits
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php

2547) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Unsupported processor - Globalscale Dreamplug (Message 1147635)
Posted 31 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


http://packages.debian.org/search?arch=arm&keywords=boinc-app-seti

Package: boinc-app-seti
Version: 5.13+cvs20060510-4
Architecture: arm

Any link (mirror) you click here:
http://packages.debian.org/lenny/arm/boinc-app-seti/download

will give you the file:
boinc-app-seti_5.13 cvs20060510-4_arm.deb
(259 KB)

2548) Questions and Answers : Getting started : How to get back old account ? (Message 1147629)
Posted 31 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Your old account is definitely a BOINC account that already has your Classic account linked, so BilBg's link is not applicable in this situation.


According to this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic.php

"When we launched SETI@home/BOINC, we created accounts for all SETI@home Classic users, with their existing email addresses. Each account includes the number of SETI@home Classic workunits completed, the CPU time, and the start date. These accounts were not given passwords (i.e., they can't be accessed using any password)."

As this happened back in 2005 I wonder how the "real Classic account" look like
and are there "real Classic accounts" in existence today
(as they were automatically converted to "preliminary" BOINC accounts)?

2549) Questions and Answers : Getting started : How to get back old account ? (Message 1147552)
Posted 31 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Since your old account appears to be never used for BOINC you can try this link:
Claim your SETI@home Classic workunits
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php

use/try your "old registered email".

If any error message shows - copy and post it here.

2550) Questions and Answers : Web site : Transfer credit from an old classic account? (Message 1147512)
Posted 31 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
i'have two account on F6JIG name.
1rst one on an email adress i've forgot the password and a new one.
But the both are the same person as me
Could we merge de both to only one.
Regards
F6JIG

Your old account (19 Feb 2001, Total credit 71,508):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=273301

It is not clear which password you forgot?
The password for the email or the password for your old account?

You don't need working email. To use the old SETI account you need:
"email" used for your old SETI account (the "email" string is the real username of the account)
password used for your old SETI account

Or - if you still posses your old "Computers belonging to f6jig":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?sort=rpc_time&rev=0&show_all=1&userid=273301

you can find the file account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml on the old computers' hard disk
and use the <authenticator>1234567890abcdef123456789abcdef</authenticator> found inside

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/get_passwd.php

2551) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Computation Error (Message 1147341)
Posted 31 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

1) Your SETI@home Enhanced v6.10 (cuda_fermi) Error tasks for computer 6150103:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6150103&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=

Show only:
- exit code -1073741819 (0xc0000005)

after 0.00 sec Run time (which means the SETI CUDA app crashed immediately after start)

Read this about possible solutions:
http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?language=1&view=98


You can use tests ("demos") in GPU Caps Viewer to check the stability of your card:
http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/


Another program to test the GPU is OCCT Perestroïka:
http://www.ocbase.com/perestroika_en/index.php?Download

(Exit BOINC before any tests)


2) Do you ask what are CUDA, FERMI, Lunatics, astropulse, etc. or you know already?

3) Messages tab in new BOINC is called "Event Log" window.
Find it somewhere in the menus or just press Ctrl-Shift-E

2552) Message boards : Number crunching : HE connection problems thread (Message 1146794)
Posted 29 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
And why, am I, not affected by this?

Most are not affected - if Most computers/IPs were affected then I think we can't see >90 Mbps usage of the line in the times when there were/are plenty of tasks to get:
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;ranges=d%3Aw;view=octets

2553) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : lun. 29 août 2011 16:54:58 CEST SETI@home Scheduler request failed: HTTP internal server error (Message 1146772)
Posted 29 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Read the first two threads about "HE connection problems" here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_forum.php?id=10

and see if they can help you to understand/overcome the problem.
(I'm not sure if they apply to your problem or you have some local issues)

2554) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Boinc with SETI@HOME on PPC Debian Linux machine (Message 1146769)
Posted 29 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Boinccmd
http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?language=1&view=503
http://www.boinc-wiki.info/BOINC_Daemon_-_Command_Line_Interface_-_Command-Line_Options

2555) Message boards : Number crunching : HE connection problems thread (Message 1146758)
Posted 29 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"Everything is stalled..." - your log shows exactly the opposite - your connection is OK most of the time.

These messages show that your connection is OK:
8/29/2011 9:33:13 AM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
8/29/2011 9:33:13 AM | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available

2556) Message boards : Number crunching : ~ Temporary Fix for HE connection problems ~ (Message 1146740)
Posted 29 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Somebody (except Hampsteadpete) tried Hotspot Shield ?

(If you are afraid of the "evil" ads - it's no so hard at all to stop them if you are not "absolute beginner" in computers.
And they try to appear in the browser only when Hotspot Shield is active/running (= after you start it to get USA IP address))

2557) Message boards : Number crunching : Doubt about the "frequency-power-time" histogram. (Message 1146698)
Posted 29 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Don't pay so much attention to the screensaver graphics - you will not find alien signal looking at it.

And read this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=61572&nowrap=true#1115313

(as usual - use the link second time to get to the right place - Message 1115313)


There is an official protocol for announcing extraterrestrial signals called Declaration of Principles Concerning Activities Following the Detection of Extraterrestrial Intelligence.
Because of this protocol, it is important that participants in the SETI@home project do not get excited when they see signals on their screen and go off on their own making announcements and calling the press.
This could be very damaging to the project.

It's important that we keep our heads cool and our computers hot while they grind away at the data. We can all hope that we will be the one that helps receive the signal of some extraterrestrial civilization trying to "phone home."

2558) Message boards : Number crunching : Some silly questions.....perhaps. (Message 1145845)
Posted 27 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Ok I have my own silly question. I need to reformat the old P4. Some how the grandkids have droped and dragged my start up menu all over the place. My silly question is can I save my 3 xp service packs on a dvd? I sure dont want to download all 3 of them again. And thanks Iona.


And you want to reformat just because of messed up start menu???!

These are only shortcuts - move them back by hand, you will spend less time.
And all your data and installed programs are still there - why you are so concern where are the shortcuts used just for easy start of programs?

To easy move the shortcuts back by hand - Right-Click the Start button and choose:
Explore All Users
(or just "Explore" if you want to move the shortcuts to the current-user's Start menu)

It really doesn't matter where you decide to move them.

Only if you uninstall some program the shortcuts for it will maybe remain where they are.
But it's OK, no harm in that, if you want you may delete them (the shortcuts of the uninstalled program) manually.

2559) Questions and Answers : Windows : no new tasks (Message 1145833)
Posted 27 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thanks for the reply. Both my PCs are running 24/7 and it makes sense that with the Rosetta workload why nothing from Seti is loading. I'll mark 'no new tasks' for Rosetta until there is little to process and see what happens with Seti. Thanks again! :)


If "PCs are running 24/7" why there are messages like these?:
8/26/2011 8:36:57 AM | | Windows is suspending operations
8/26/2011 8:36:57 AM | | Suspending computation - requested by operating system
8/26/2011 8:36:57 AM | | Suspending file transfers - requested by operating system
8/26/2011 10:38:59 AM | | Windows is resuming operations
8/26/2011 10:39:00 AM | | Resuming computation
8/26/2011 10:39:00 AM | | Resuming file transfers


There are 26 messages "Windows is suspending operations" in the log you posted!

Obviously you have set the computer (and not only the monitor) to sleep
so you can't say (it's not true) that the "PCs are running 24/7".

2560) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : Error while computing (Message 1145821)
Posted 27 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Longer explanation of the same by Richard Haselgrove (very reputable "guru" here ;) ):

(How to get new HostIDs to normalize the APR by editing <rpc_seqno>nnnnn</rpc_seqno> in client_state.xml file)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65291&nowrap=true#1145786

(as usual - know that the first click on the above link will not lead you to the right place,
use the link second time to see the Richard Haselgrove's post #1145786)

2561) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : Error while computing (Message 1144122)
Posted 23 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm not sure if resetting the project or detaching/reattaching would help with the APR.

Perhaps someone else is more experienced than I am.

Not pretending to be "more experienced" than you ;)
But maybe the Detach/re-Attach will give new "Computer ID" to start fresh?


By editing the client_state.xml (using simple text editor)
maybe you mean finding and changing the duration_correction_factor

...
<project>
<master_url>http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/</master_url>
<project_name>SETI@home</project_name>
...........
<duration_correction_factor>1.000000</duration_correction_factor>


Changing the value from 1.000000 to e.g. 10000.00 may make BOINC adjust the estimated times (from 1 estimated second as it is now to 10000 estimated seconds)?

2562) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : 0% task progress (Message 1144118)
Posted 23 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So - is this a known problem, or do I have something else going on?

I don't know why it happens on Power Macintosh [AltiVec] (PowerPC G5 ?)

But on Windows + some of AMD CPUs + standard/stock app this is a known problem.
It happens sometimes at the start/restart of task (= new start of SETI stock app) during "Optimal function choice".

If you restart BOINC or just stop the computation ("Snooze")(which exits the SETI app) and then resume the computation
the SETI stock app may be able this time to pass this starting phase ("Optimal function choice" which lasts a few seconds)
and go further on its real business.

2563) Message boards : Number crunching : AstroPulse v5.05 r460/468 (BETA) ATOM CPU apps (Message 1143825)
Posted 22 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Yes, those applications are for the ATOM CPU only.

So what's so special in the ATOM CPU which makes these apps not run on other CPUs?
(or can they run on other Intel/AMD CPUs but not effectively?)

And what's the difference (except version number) between:
Win x32 AstroPulse v5.05 r460_SSE3_ATOM ICC_MKLS_ O3
Win x32 AstroPulse v5.05 r468_SSE3_ATOM IXE_MKLS_ O3

(what is ICC_MKLS vs IXE_MKLS ?)

2564) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Profile Avata Image: Damaged (Message 1143313)
Posted 21 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

So many words for this small unimportant picture.

Just remove it ("To remove it from your profile, check this box: []")
Update profile so you don't see any picture
Upload new picture in JPG format "(50KB or less)" (it's not Photoshop, don't try strange formats like HPF (which I never heard of) and no transparency)

Really, how many people you think will look at someone's profile?
I don't think more than 10 people looked ever at my profile.

How many profiles did you looked at?
(I read not more than 20 profiles in the 4 years I am here and reading the forums)

2565) Message boards : Number crunching : can I have it both ways? (fast and slow GPU) (Message 1143268)
Posted 21 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"... how to run 2 WU's on the fast card and 1 on the slow" - the link gives explanation for exactly this (by running 2 BOINC clients at the same time).

"The purpose of this was in my case to have the orginal installation modifed to run the Fermi board and the CPU’s most optimal and the other installation would run my Nvidia 2xx generation card by itself..

In that way i could configure app_info.xml to make the fermi board run two WU’s at once and not even bother trying to use the 2xx board for crunching and 2xx board 1 WU at once with another executable which is more suitable for that board."


You can't do that with any other config/option/preference.


"BTW where can I get documentation on the config (et al) qualifiers?" - if you don't know that the "two BOINC clients at the same time" is maybe not for you - it involves some advanced actions.

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration
http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?language=1&view=91
http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Cc_config.xml

2566) Questions and Answers : Windows : computer crashes when using mobile broadband usb bsod (Message 1143255)
Posted 21 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Yes, it's a wrong place to ask (unless you decide to participate in SETI@home after your computer become healthy ;) )

Check also for heat issues (dust in CPU heatsink/fan)
(if it's an old computer and crashes randomly)

2567) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Assign 3rd GPU (Device Nr. 02) only for Seti GPU Apps (Message 1143218)
Posted 20 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus> will enable the use of All GPUs only if BOINC already recognizes them but marks with "(not used)", e.g.:

8/8/2011 11:23:54 PM | | NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 550 Ti (driver version 27533, CUDA version 4000, compute capability 2.1, 961MB, 461 GFLOPS peak)
8/8/2011 11:23:54 PM | | NVIDIA GPU 1 (not used): GeForce 9500 GT (driver version 27533, CUDA version 4000, compute capability 1.1, 967MB, 90 GFLOPS peak)

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=63236


Do you know if 8600GT can do OpenCL ?

Your only active projects that can use GPUs are SETI@home and MilkyWay@home:
http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/apps.php

Rosetta@home uses only CPU:
http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/apps.php


If 8600GT can't do OpenCL MilkyWay@home can't use it.
If you don't know just try.
Maybe only SETI@home will use the 8600GT ?

If 8600GT can do OpenCL - I don't know is it possible to Disable usage of OpenCL for just one particular GPU by using NVIDIA driver settings?
(MilkyWay@home uses OpenCL but SETI@home uses CUDA. So the question is can you make the system believe that 8600GT can do only CUDA but not OpenCL)

(! I don't participate in MilkyWay@home or Rosetta@home so all I say is based solely on what I see on the above linked "Applications" pages !)


I found this image which shows that 8600GT can do only CUDA but not OpenCL so (possibly) you have no worries to Enable <use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
(! But it may be driver dependent! Run GPU-Z on your system to see the result!)




2568) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Profile Avata Image: Damaged (Message 1143176)
Posted 20 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

In Message 1142635:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65188&nowrap=true#1142635

I say:
Right: saved by me and uploaded to prikachi.com

So that's what I see (the images at the Right)

And words like "strange background" does not mean anything since we don't know what you want it to be.

No need/not useful to explain by words.
To show - upload the image somewhere else and give the link:
http://photobucket.com/
http://imageshack.us/
)



That is how my post in Message 1142635 looks in my Opera browser, saved by [PrintScreen] + IrfanView + PNG format + Uploaded to prikachi.com:







That is how your Profile looks in my Opera browser (I'm on Win 98 computer at the moment), saved by [PrintScreen] + IrfanView + PNG format + Uploaded to prikachi.com:





Since the images above are new to anyone the browser cache have no impact and "what you see is what you get".

P.S.
It is not good to make company advertising in a SETI@home Profile!

2569) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Profile Avata Image: Damaged (Message 1142919)
Posted 20 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Then post/upload the "real" picture/file to some site and post the link for us to see what you mean the image to be.

e.g. use this (no account needed):
http://www.datafilehost.com/

Give us a link like this:
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-933c48a3.html

2570) Questions and Answers : Windows : no new tasks (Message 1142904)
Posted 20 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

To add to that - when I install newer version of NOD32 I never needed to uninstall the previous, I just "install over" the working and active NOD32

The installer of NOD32 somehow disables/exits the current active version (at which time Windows starts to complain about "No antivirus protection detected" which warning disappears after a minute),
then uninstalls the old and installs the new version of NOD32 and starts it without reboot.

At that time the icon of NOD32 becomes orange with advice "it will be good to reboot now".
But I do not follow this suggestion immediately because I notice some file activity (updating) in the Data directories of NOD32 to continue for 5-10 minutes.
So I let the NOD32 to calm down for ~15 minutes before reboot.

2571) Questions and Answers : Windows : no new tasks (Message 1142871)
Posted 20 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'd be willing to bet that one of them (Comodo or NOD32) have misidentified the SETI or AstroPulse executable as a trojan ...

And I'd be willing to bet that it's Not NOD32 as I use that for years on every computer without need to exclude anything.


There's a good chance it isn't NOD32, but I do know that if you turn all options on (Potentially Unwanted Programs) and set the sensitivity to high, there's a chance NOD32 could be detecting the SETI executable as a possible trojan.

Maybe you are talking not about "Potentially Unwanted Programs" (PUP) but about "Potentially Unsafe applications" (which is not enabled by default)?

http://kb.eset.com/esetkb/index?page=content&id=SOLN2198
http://search.eset.com/esetkb/index?page=content&id=SOLN124


Possibly... I only know I disable PUP on all my NOD32 installs, and I knew it was enabled by default. I've seen similar PUP technologies from other AV companies cause the same problems I described.

PUP (PUA) was Not enabled by default on NOD32 for me (but I always use advanced install (more options/questions)(if available) for any program)
- on first install NOD32 asks you to choose "to PUP or not to PUP" ;) with disabled [Next >] button until you select (= no default choice)
- on program update (= second install of newer version) it asks if you want to keep all your current settings.

2572) Questions and Answers : Windows : no new tasks (Message 1142858)
Posted 20 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Yes, I have full confidence in NOD32 :)

This is from their site but I don't believe they lie:
http://www.eset.com/home/whyeset/compare/

They cite independent reputable sites like AV-Comparatives, AV-Test.org, Virus Bulletin

Especially look the last graph: "Missed In-the-Wild Viruses"
(0 + 0 Missed (= Everything catched) for both On-Access (= Real-Time) and On-Demand (= Manual scan) protection)

"ESET NOD32 Antivirus is the only solution in the world that has detected all real,
“In-the-Wild” worms and viruses since the inception of testing in May 1998."

Interactive Comparison:
http://www.eset.com/home/whyeset/interactive-comparison/

***
Even more important:
Two different vendors' active resident (= On-Access, Real-Time) antiviruses protection often conflict with each-other.

That's why during install of NOD32 there is a warning to uninstall (or at least disable) the Real-Time protection of another antivirus/antispyware:

http://kb.eset.com/esetkb/index?page=content&id=SOLN146

"Running two antivirus products on the same computer can degrade performance and cause system instability. It is important that any previously installed antivirus software is uninstalled from your system before installing your ESET security product.
Typical uninstallation* using the Windows removal tool (Add/Remove Programs) is often insufficient."

For Uninstall:

Comodo says to use the standard "Add/Remove programs":
https://support.comodo.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=298


ESET recommends for "Uninstall your existing ESET security product" to use "Start -> All Programs -> ESET -> Uninstall"
http://kb.eset.com/esetkb/index?page=content&id=SOLN2116#uninstall

And if that is not sufficient even offers the "hardcore" "ESET Uninstaller tool"
http://kb.eset.com/esetkb/index?page=content&id=SOLN2289

2573) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Profile Avata Image: Damaged (Message 1142635)
Posted 19 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

After I presses F5 both are almost the same (size is different, and the background of the ship is different so you used different pictures)

Left: loaded directly from setiathome.berkeley.edu
Right: saved by me and uploaded to prikachi.com
(Left and Right should look the same (if you do not change/upload new picture again), if not - press F5)


Profile:




Avatar (can't be more than 100 x 100 pixels):




2574) Questions and Answers : Windows : no new tasks (Message 1142623)
Posted 19 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'd be willing to bet that one of them (Comodo or NOD32) have misidentified the SETI or AstroPulse executable as a trojan ...

And I'd be willing to bet that it's Not NOD32 as I use that for years on every computer without need to exclude anything.


There's a good chance it isn't NOD32, but I do know that if you turn all options on (Potentially Unwanted Programs) and set the sensitivity to high, there's a chance NOD32 could be detecting the SETI executable as a possible trojan.

Maybe you are talking not about "Potentially Unwanted Programs" (PUP) but about "Potentially Unsafe applications" (which is not enabled by default)?

http://kb.eset.com/esetkb/index?page=content&id=SOLN2198
http://search.eset.com/esetkb/index?page=content&id=SOLN124

2575) Questions and Answers : Windows : no new tasks (Message 1142591)
Posted 19 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'd be willing to bet that one of them (Comodo or NOD32) have misidentified the SETI or AstroPulse executable as a trojan ...

And I'd be willing to bet that it's Not NOD32 as I use that for years on every computer without need to exclude anything.

And why gecko runs Comodo and NOD32 at the same time?

2576) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Profile Avata Image: Damaged (Message 1142586)
Posted 19 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Press F5 (or Ctrl-F5) to reload the page - sometimes browser shows what's in its cache.

And "profile image" is not the same as "avatar".
To change "avatar" go to this page:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/edit_forum_preferences_form.php

In your profile I see something like a small crown (120 x 80 pixels, 2.2 KB)

(e.g. My User ID is: 8647488 so:
My "profile image": http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/user_profile/images/8647488.jpg
My "avatar image": http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/user_profile/images/8647488_avatar.jpg
)
2577) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows SBS 2008 Standard Edition (Message 1141977)
Posted 18 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58567
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=53310
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64021

2578) Message boards : Number crunching : 3 cards, boinc is only using 1 help (Message 1141973)
Posted 18 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=63236

<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus> will do the trick only if BOINC already recognizes them but marks with "(not used)", e.g.:

8/8/2011 11:23:54 PM | | NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 550 Ti (driver version 27533, CUDA version 4000, compute capability 2.1, 961MB, 461 GFLOPS peak)
8/8/2011 11:23:54 PM | | NVIDIA GPU 1 (not used): GeForce 9500 GT (driver version 27533, CUDA version 4000, compute capability 1.1, 967MB, 90 GFLOPS peak)


Can you post your (relevant, first ~30 lines) Messages/Event Log?

2579) Questions and Answers : Windows : McAfee Problems with Scheduled Virus Scan (Message 1141952)
Posted 18 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I think NOD32 is the only antivirus with enough self-confidence in its resident (on-access) protection
that it never makes scheduled full HDD scans - NOD32 catches everything "on the fly".

It scans by schedule (event) only auto-start/run programs (1-2 minute scan) after log-on or after update of antivirus definitions/signatures.

That's why my daughters asked me to get rid of the pre-installed (on laptops) Norton (Symantec) and BitDefender and put NOD32

And I had gone this way: F-Prot (DOS) > AVG > avast! > NOD32

2580) Questions and Answers : Windows : Run CPU versions of applications for which GPU versions are available (Message 1141937)
Posted 18 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

This is wrong forum to ask about Einstein@Home settings.

But I'll try to answer.
Read:
"Run CPU versions of applications for which GPU versions are available"
as:
"Run also CPU versions of applications for which GPU versions are available"

Einstein@Home Applications:
http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/apps.php

There are 4 "Searches", every "Search" can be done/computed by numerous "Applications"

Einstein@Home server status page:
http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/server_status.html

The setting "Run CPU versions of applications for which GPU versions are available"
have effect for only those "Searches" for which are available both CPU & GPU applications.
I see only one of this kind at the moment: Binary Radio Pulsar Search (PMPS)(BRP3)

So if this setting is Checked: both your CPU & CUDA-GPU will work for (PMPS)(BRP3) (by downloading different programs/applications)

If this setting is UnChecked: Only your CUDA-GPU will work for (PMPS)(BRP3) (by downloading Only the CUDA version of the program/application)


Disable the rotation of the SETI graphics screensaver:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=61746

2581) Questions and Answers : Web site : Lost password and no e-mail after 2001 (Message 1141920)
Posted 18 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

So your only option is to check your old computers (the link is in previous post) and find the old <authenticator> on their hard disks (in the old BOINC installation).

Most probably in:
C:\Program Files\BOINC\account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml

But check also:
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC\account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml

Or search the entire Old disk/Old backup for the file:
account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml

2582) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Too many tasks being downloaded reduce number of them (Message 1141909)
Posted 18 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I think most of the tasks you see downloaded are Not for your CPU but for your GPU (CUDA): NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260

The GPU processes tasks much faster than the CPU (15-30 minutes vs 5 hours)

2583) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Two questions (Message 1141900)
Posted 18 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
BTW, most browsers, right click on a picture and save it to your HDD.

Yes, but not on this certificate:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/cert1.php

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/cert_sah.php?border=yes&show_boinc=on

It's Not an image - it is text surrounded by border and 3 images in it.

2584) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Two questions (Message 1141505)
Posted 17 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I think that here Everyone of you will see his/her personal/own certificate.

Tell me what you see?:








2585) Questions and Answers : Windows : Boinc will not run on same computer, different user account. (Message 1141488)
Posted 17 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

According to this page:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/ClientSetupLogicWinSix

boinc_admins: Members of this group can change the configuration and protection settings for the BOINC client (for example the GUI RPC password and host list) and can also run the BOINC Manager and screensaver.

boinc_users: Members of this group can run the BOINC Manager and screensaver.

I'm not sure what means (in this context) to "run" the BOINC Manager?
If you are added only in boinc_users but not in boinc_admins what can you do?
Only "witness" what BOINC Manager shows?
Can you e.g. suspend computation/tasks/projects, attach/detach projects, change preferences/options (these actions I will call "to control")?

2586) Questions and Answers : Web site : Lost password and no e-mail after 2001 (Message 1141255)
Posted 16 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The link to this old account is:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=352031

Did you try this page? (? maybe after you "log out" (top-right) from your current account):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/get_passwd.php

Try all email addresses you may think of.

If you still have some of your old computers:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?sort=rpc_time&rev=0&show_all=1&userid=352031

... use the "Log in with authenticator" method

2587) Questions and Answers : Windows : Boinc will not run on same computer, different user account. (Message 1141231)
Posted 16 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
See http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?language=1&view=492


Good info but are you sure it is exactly correct?

In the case where the warning is about the boinc_admins group, or you want to add people to the group that's allowed to run BOINC Manager or the screen saver, use:

In the case where the warning is about the boinc_users group, or you want to add people to the group that's allowed to control BOINC, through BOINC Manager, use:

I think it is exactly the opposite (run vs control)

2588) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Two questions (Message 1141219)
Posted 16 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have not been in the forums for a few years so I am not familiar with what is going on here now. the cert1.php is here http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/cert1.php.


Now that we know what you are talking about it's much easier :)

The "picture" shown on page:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/cert1.php

is Not an image - it is text surrounded by border and 3 images in it
- the way to get it is as Gundolf say the [Print Screen] key.

Then I start IrfanView and press Ctrl-V (= Paste)
Then mark relevant part and press Ctrl-Y (= Crop)
Then press "S" (for Save), choose format (PNG or JPG) and filename and Save.

Then go to site for uploading of pictures (I have account in it):
http://prikachi.com/

... upload a picture and get a link (!!! the link have to end by .png or .jpg - NOT .png/ or .jpg/ as some sites will give you)

Then go here and post the picture link surrounded by [img][/img] tags.
To do that easy - mark the entire link and press [Img] button found along with other buttons over the typing box when you post here on this forum.


But better and easier is to go to this page:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/cert_print.php

... and generate "Photo certificate" or "Modern" - they generate images (cert2.jpeg & cert3.jpeg) which you can save by right-click on the image.

Upload to your favorite image hosting site, get and use here the direct link !
("direct link" = No "/" at the end, paste this direct link in the address line of new tab in the browser - you have to see only the picture, not any elements around it)








Press [Quote] under my post and examine the raw text to see how I posted this images.

2589) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Two questions (Message 1140851)
Posted 15 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

With 5970 Posts you have to know about "Number crunching" forum,
read the top two threads about "HE connection problems" (some people (IPs) can connect, some - not. It's obscure Router problem lingering for months)

("Are you not accepting new members" implies that you expect somebody from SETI lab to see your post and answer which is very much unlikely to happen.)


For the second "question" - if you can tell me how I can get rid of the blahblah.Ugh file I can tell you about cret1.php

(What! You don't know what the heck is blahblah.Ugh file?
The same applies for me and some wherever-on-earth found cret1.php file.

You have to be much more specific - give links, what do you see there and what you want to save (Picture? Describe where on the page you see it and what it looks like.)
)

2590) Questions and Answers : Windows : Boinc will not run on same computer, different user account. (Message 1140846)
Posted 15 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Try another install over the previous (without uninstall) (or repair installation) and reboot after it.

(Always exit BOINC before the install (so it can update and close the relevant data files)
as the installation just kills the running processes boinc.exe and boincmgr.exe instead of gracefully exit them)

2591) Questions and Answers : Windows : Boinc will not run on same computer, different user account. (Message 1140840)
Posted 15 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Did you get the reboot warning at the end of install?

What is the name of the installer?
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_6.12.33_windows_intelx86.exe
or
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_6.12.33_windows_x86_64.exe


Where did it install?
in:
C:\Program Files\BOINC\
or in:
C:\Program Files (x86)\BOINC\

2592) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lunatics optimization issue (Message 1140834)
Posted 15 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

For SETI@home Enhanced VLAR tasks your GPU computes at the same speed as one of the CPU cores (~8000 sec/task (2+ hours)):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6136002&offset=0&show_names=1&state=3&appid=

But for Astropulse tasks you can expect significant difference (>5 times) in the favor of ATI GPU

Your computer still do not have Astropulse tasks assigned for the ATI GPU:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6136002&offset=0&show_names=1&state=0&appid=5

You can also see that the VHAR tasks ("shorties") are finishing ~3 times faster (~2500 sec) than VLAR tasks (8000 sec)
And the credit given is (almost) consistent with the Run time.
I think with the time you will get higher credit per CPU task as now you are at transition period and the SETI server "don't know what it's doing".
It still thinks that you used the standard app for all the tasks marked as "SETI@home Enhanced v6.03"
So after the first two took 15000 sec and the next few 8000 sec the server gives (as it thinks) "less credit for less work done by the same app"

The optimized CPU app finishes the VLAR tasks ~2 times (200%) faster than standard app (8000 vs 15000 sec)

2593) Questions and Answers : Getting started : BOINC can't access internet (Mac) (Message 1140815)
Posted 15 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Are all of your computers connected to the same Internet (use same external IP)?

If not - read the two top threads about "HE connection problems" here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_forum.php?id=10


And updating of RAM have nothing to do with your connection problems - just a few days ago they (at the lab) "kicked" one of the routers.

This "kick" made some of the people (IPs) that were having connection problems for months to be able finally to connect
but at the same time ruined the connection of others that previously were able to connect (and for some - nothing changed)

2594) Message boards : Number crunching : ~ Temporary Fix for HE connection problems ~ (Message 1140754)
Posted 15 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Instead of using Proxy you can use VPN:

Hotspot Shield (by AnchorFree) is really a good program if you can tame its advertising attempts
http://hotspotshield.com/
http://anchorfree.com/

Pros: Many ;)
Uses Fast, Randomly chosen (different IP/location) Anonymous (Elite) servers located in USA (different cities/different ISPs)
To check the type of connection (before and after running Hotspot Shield):
http://ip.my-proxy.com/

Examples of two IP addressed/ISPs given to me at different runs of Hotspot Shield:




When it is running it acts on OS level (socket?, I'm not sure where it intercepts all the HTTP communication)
so any program that uses HTTP uses automatically the new assigned IP/server (but HTTPS go through your real IP).
When using Hotspot Shield you don't have to set Proxy (in the browsers, in BOINC, ...) - the setting have to be "No Proxy"

(URLSnooper:
http://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Mouser/urlsnooper/index.html
shows that Hotspot Shield creates new virtual network adapter - "AnchorFree network adapter"
and really all the HTTP accessed links by any program are using this new virtual adapter,
no communication appears to go through the real "Realtek" network adapter.

The same is shown also by NetMeter:
http://www.metal-machine.de/readerror/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item26
)


Cons:
(Tries to) show ads (only when it is active/running). To avoid this:
- during install uncheck all that you don't want (IIRC I unchecked (all?) 6 boxes in several pages of the installer - it wants to change your home page, install toolbar, etc.)
- in all browsers use AdBlock
Firefox + Adblock Plus - blocks all ads
Opera + Opera AdBlock - blocks all ads (maybe I added some blocks manually)
(Google Chrome/SRWare Iron) + ("AdBlock" or "Adblock Plus for Chrome") - do NOT block all ads
- I used Autoruns to disable the installed "hss" BHO for IE - it's not needed for the correct operation of Hotspot Shield
- From tray icon uncheck "Run on restart" (on Windows log-in)
- when Hotspot Shield runs for too long (several hours) the Internet stops and I have to reboot both the ADSL Router and the computer to recover (it may be fault of my weak ZTE Router)
- Hotspot Shield uses web interface (I don't like this) so when you run it or when you want to stop it the default browser (in my case Opera) is started to display the buttons.


My Verdict:
I suggest you use it when you need it (for BOINC or to be anonymous on web)
but if you are unable to suppress the ads and you become angry
- don't blame me but just uninstall it ;)

I use Hotspot Shield from time to time for 3 weeks now.

Thanks to Hampsteadpete for pointing my attention at this software:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64652&nowrap=true#1129835

2595) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lunatics optimization issue (Message 1140706)
Posted 15 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

??? But it's not "3 minute crunch"

It has "CPU time 2,442.01 sec" and "Run time 2,509.53 sec" which is ~42 minutes


If you refer to the other computer using nVidia CUDA GPU (SETI@home Enhanced v6.09 (cuda23) app)
the 155 sec CPU time is not telling much as the computation was done on GPU.
For GPU tasks look at the "Run time", not "CPU time"

955 sec (16 min) is normal Run time on nVidia CUDA GPU (GeForce 9800 GT)
with this kind of short tasks (VHAR, WU true angle range is : 2.570742)


Your computer may have finished some ATI GPU tasks ("SETI@home Enhanced Anonymous platform (ATI GPU)")
but they are still not reported so I can't tell how much time they take on your GPU.
(They will be reported automatically by BOINC in the next 24 hours.
BOINC delays the report for max 24 hours to report many tasks at once for less load on the servers)

2596) Questions and Answers : Web site : Lost Tasks? (Message 1140690)
Posted 15 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Maybe Anders asks how to navigate to his "Application details" page?

Click:
ACCOUNT
Computers on this account View
Details
Application details Show

And you will see this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=6124954


To see the info for my (anybody's) Computers:
Click on my "name" (BilBg) at the left of the post
Computers View
(the rest is the same)

2597) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : NVIDIA Tesla C1060 (Message 1140663)
Posted 15 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Better move the GeForce GTX 260 to another computer (Core 2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz)
and put the GTX 560Ti in "this" (Core 2 Quad CPU Q9450 @ 2.66GHz) computer.
(unless you want to use the GTX 260 as PhysX card for gaming)

It is possible to use the mixed GTX 260/560Ti configuration with both standard and optimized apps (which I see you use now: "Multibeam x38g Preview, Cuda 3.20" (Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe))
but GTX 260 is not capable of running effectively 2 tasks at once.


If you want to test it - do it now before adding the GTX 560Ti :

Suspend all tasks
Exit BOINC

Go to ....\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\
Make copy of app_info.xml (for easy undo of changes)
Edit app_info.xml with Notepad
Make the changes (info bellow) and save the file

Start BOINC
Resume 2 CUDA tasks

Look closely for the running times and possible errors


The changes to make:
In the following section change the all 6 occurrences of:
<count>1</count>
to:
<count>0.5</count>

<app_info>
    <app>
        <name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>cudart32_32_16.dll</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>cufft32_32_16.dll</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>610</version_num>
	<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
        <plan_class>cuda_fermi</plan_class>
        <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus>
        <coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
         </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
	       <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>cufft32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>609</version_num>
	<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
        <plan_class>cuda23</plan_class>
        <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus>
        <coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
         </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
	       <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>cufft32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>608</version_num>
	<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
        <plan_class>cuda</plan_class>
        <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus>
        <coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
         </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
	       <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>cufft32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>610</version_num>
	<platform>windows_x86_64</platform>
        <plan_class>cuda_fermi</plan_class>
        <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus>
        <coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
         </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
	       <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>cufft32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>609</version_num>
	<platform>windows_x86_64</platform>
        <plan_class>cuda23</plan_class>
        <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus>
        <coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
         </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
	       <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>cufft32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>608</version_num>
	<platform>windows_x86_64</platform>
        <plan_class>cuda</plan_class>
        <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus>
        <coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
         </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
	       <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>cufft32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
</app_info>

2598) Questions and Answers : Windows : Boinc will not run on same computer, different user account. (Message 1140612)
Posted 15 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Re-install of BOINC will not touch your tasks/project files (by design at least).
Just Exit BOINC completely before the install.

2599) Questions and Answers : Windows : Keep track of workunits (Message 1140490)
Posted 14 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The road I assign BilBg is 20km and he has a Ferrari. ...


;) Where ... Where ... Where ... Where ... ?






2600) Questions and Answers : Windows : Keep track of workunits (Message 1140479)
Posted 14 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
@BilBg,

If you drive a distance in 1 minute but walk the same distance in 10 minutes, have you done the same progress then? The answer clearly depends on what one mean with progress.

Of course it's the same progress (distance) - for SETI it will be the same credit but different RAC

Credit - pays for the delivery itself and depend only on how big the "stuff" you deliver is (no matter how fast/slow you deliver that "stuff")
RAC - = Credit/day (depend also on how fast you deliver)

2601) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lunatics optimization issue (Message 1140457)
Posted 14 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Those "crunched in 3 minutes" are tasks with "Error while computing":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6136002&offset=0&show_names=1&state=5&appid=

No credit is given for them.


P.S.
To check everything is correct now:

1) Do you see 6 processes in Windows Task Manager with the name "AK_v8b_win_SSE3_AMD.exe" running?

2) Do you see 1 process in Windows Task Manager with the name "MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_HD5_r177.exe" running?

3) When Astropulse tasks are running (may take ~15-20 hours on CPU or 2-3 hours (?) on GPU)
you will see one or several processes running (one per Astropulse task) with names:
CPU (up to 6 processes):
ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe

GPU (one process (if you don't modify your app_info.xml manually))
ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r521.exe


All of the above .exe files you can see in (by default on Win 7):
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\

2602) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lunatics optimization issue (Message 1140447)
Posted 14 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

1) For your CPU you have to choose SSE3 (AMD) (Not SSE3 (Intel), SSE2, SSE (p3))

2) The speed of the Lunatics' optimized CPU apps is 150-200% faster than standard app, but of course there are shorter and longer running tasks.
(those marked with "vlar" at the end of the name may run longer (on any app) but the credit is bigger (at least the "NewCredit" system tries to give more credit for longer running tasks on the same hardware/app))

3) The Lunatics' optimized ATI apps are at the moment the only way you can use your GPU for SETI

2603) Questions and Answers : Getting started : What is the purpose of credits? (Message 1137997)
Posted 9 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah/forum_thread.php?id=26027
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58291
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=28100

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=49727
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=36956

2604) Questions and Answers : Windows : Keep track of workunits (Message 1137068)
Posted 7 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So one WU isn't worth 1 credit then, if so then thats a joke because there would be no way to tally how many WU's a person has truly done.


Of course one WU isn't worth 1 credit.

How many times did you travel so far?
Is it important to count "How many times"?
Isn't it more informative to ask "How far"?

(You may travel a few blocks with a bus/car (= 1 "journey").
Or you may cross the ocean (again = 1 "journey").
Credit is given for "How far/long", not for "How many"
)

2605) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Possible Correction Of Credit ? (Message 1137062)
Posted 7 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The email you use to log-in to account or attach ("Add") computer to account
does NOT need to be active/existent!

Think of this "email" just as your true username -
if you know the "email" and the password you can use the account.

(There is nothing "smart" about changing this "email" before the provider "close the doors"
because this doesn't matter - no one checks is the "email" valid (active).

E.g. to register new account you can use as "email" a string like xxxxxxxxx@yyy.zzz
and it will work despite the fact that there is no domain .zzz (so yyy.zzz can't exist).

(There are rumors "they" (the DNS authorities) will allow any domain to be registered which I don't like)
)

2606) Message boards : Number crunching : No Response since June 15 (Message 1137049)
Posted 7 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Read "HE connection problems" threads (the first 2 in this forum)

2607) Message boards : Number crunching : "Seti@Home Enhanced needs more disk space" Notices (Message 1135910)
Posted 4 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Note: any amount of free HDD space will not help for BOINC if you have wrong settings
- BOINC will use only what it needs up to the amount you allow:
Disk: use at most X GB
Disk: leave free at least Y GB
Disk: use at most Z% of total

BOINC checks the 3 limits and uses the most restrictive.


But CCleaner is great (to free HDD space by deleting unneeded files)
and this is the original (developer) place to get it:
http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner

I suggest NOT using the default settings as they will erase the browser History and Cookies.

My settings:



2608) Message boards : Number crunching : "Seti@Home Enhanced needs more disk space" Notices (Message 1135758)
Posted 4 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I wonder why with only 5 In progress tasks on board BOINC thinks it consumed all the previous 200 MB limit?

1) Check manually the size of both BOINC directories (Program & Data) in:
C:\Program Files\BOINC
C:\ProgramData\BOINC

My current total is 104 MB (Program + Data) (of which 15 MB is old data from Orbit project and 59 MB is the symbols directory)
with 9 SETI tasks on board.


2) You have to see only ~5 task files (each of size ~366 KB) with names like:
21ap11ac.19808.12494.11.10.50
05mr11ag.4622.12337.4.10.97
08mr11ab.4066.20926.15.10.2

... in the:
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\


3) [Test for lost files] with BOINC Rescheduler

2609) Message boards : Number crunching : Maximum elapsed time exceeded (Message 1135746)
Posted 4 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Please note that I don't have any CUDA cards


OK, then these are relevant for you (again extracted by 7-Zip from Lunatics_Win64_v0.38_setup.exe):

MBATI_HD5.aistub
<app_info> 
    <app>
        <name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_HD5_r177.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r177.cl</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>610</version_num>
        <platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
        <avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.05</max_ncpus>
        <plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
        <cmdline>-period_iterations_num 5 -instances_per_device 1</cmdline>
        <coproc>
            <type>ATI</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_HD5_r177.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>                           
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r177.cl</file_name>
            <open_name>MultiBeam_Kernels.cl</open_name>
            <copy_file/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>610</version_num>
        <platform>windows_x86_64</platform>
        <avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.05</max_ncpus>
        <plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
        <cmdline>-period_iterations_num 5 -instances_per_device 1</cmdline>
        <coproc>
            <type>ATI</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_HD5_r177.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>                           
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r177.cl</file_name>
            <open_name>MultiBeam_Kernels.cl</open_name>
            <copy_file/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
</app_info>



APATI.aistub
<app_info> 
    <app>
        <name>astropulse_v505</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r521.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>AstroPulse_Kernels_r521.cl</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
        <version_num>506</version_num>
        <avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>
        <platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
        <plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
        <cmdline>-instances_per_device 1 -unroll 6 -ffa_block 4096 -ffa_block_fetch 2048</cmdline>
        <coproc>
            <type>ATI</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r521.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>                           
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>AstroPulse_Kernels_r521.cl</file_name>
            <copy_file/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
        <version_num>505</version_num>
        <avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>
        <platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
        <plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
        <cmdline>-instances_per_device 1 -unroll 6 -ffa_block 4096 -ffa_block_fetch 2048</cmdline>
        <coproc>
            <type>ATI</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r521.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>                           
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>AstroPulse_Kernels_r521.cl</file_name>
            <copy_file/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
        <version_num>506</version_num>
        <avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>
        <platform>windows_x86_64</platform>
        <plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
        <cmdline>-instances_per_device 1 -unroll 6 -ffa_block 4096 -ffa_block_fetch 2048</cmdline>
        <coproc>
            <type>ATI</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r521.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>                           
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>AstroPulse_Kernels_r521.cl</file_name>
            <copy_file/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
        <version_num>505</version_num>
        <avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>
        <platform>windows_x86_64</platform>
        <plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
        <cmdline>-instances_per_device 1 -unroll 6 -ffa_block 4096 -ffa_block_fetch 2048</cmdline>
        <coproc>
            <type>ATI</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r521.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>                           
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>AstroPulse_Kernels_r521.cl</file_name>
            <copy_file/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
</app_info>



Yes - you can use only one of the parts with one of the <platform>

The reason why Lunatics' Unified Installer defines all the combinations
is to preserve/keep (and not dump) the currently available (in the computer) tasks.

2610) Message boards : Number crunching : Public beta for nVidia AstroPulse, rev 521 (Message 1135395)
Posted 3 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I think it's normal if both running AstroPulse tasks have big % blanked.

Check/find <fraction_blanked> in pulse.out* files in slots directory.

2611) Questions and Answers : Windows : Event log question... (Message 1135391)
Posted 3 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

To open and clean a laptop is very hard (unless you have special opening for reaching the fan/heatsink)
- sometimes you have to remove all the components to reach the fan.

Compressed air (by compressor, not can (I don't know what the pressure was))
blown through the exit hole inside (in opposite direction of normal airflow)
made magic in a matter of seconds (4-5 blows 1 sec each with 10 sec pause)
to my daughter's HP laptop - the temperature afterwards keeps around 20-30°C lower than was before (now 50-55°C at idle, was ~75°C even using Power Saver profile in Vista).

And you can use Power Saver profile (tested on Windows Vista, not XP) to avoid overheating and shutdown.

2612) Message boards : Number crunching : Maximum elapsed time exceeded (Message 1135366)
Posted 3 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you are on 64 bit Windows you need both windows_intelx86 and windows_x86_64 (just for not dumping any work)


This is the original CUDA part from the Lunatics_Win64_v0.38_setup.exe
(I extracted the MBCuda.aistub from it using 7-Zip)


MBCuda.aistub :
<app_info>
    <app>
        <name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>cudart32_32_16.dll</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>cufft32_32_16.dll</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>610</version_num>
	<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
        <plan_class>cuda_fermi</plan_class>
        <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus>
        <coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
         </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
	       <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>cufft32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>609</version_num>
	<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
        <plan_class>cuda23</plan_class>
        <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus>
        <coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
         </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
	       <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>cufft32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>608</version_num>
	<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
        <plan_class>cuda</plan_class>
        <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus>
        <coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
         </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
	       <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>cufft32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>610</version_num>
	<platform>windows_x86_64</platform>
        <plan_class>cuda_fermi</plan_class>
        <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus>
        <coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
         </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
	       <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>cufft32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>609</version_num>
	<platform>windows_x86_64</platform>
        <plan_class>cuda23</plan_class>
        <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus>
        <coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
         </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
	       <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>cufft32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>608</version_num>
	<platform>windows_x86_64</platform>
        <plan_class>cuda</plan_class>
        <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus>
        <coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
         </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
	       <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>cufft32_32_16.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
</app_info>

2613) Questions and Answers : Web site : Server Not Working Correctly (Message 1135362)
Posted 3 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Sorry - most of my writing is misunderstood (judging by your responses)
Maybe because I'm Bulgarian and don't write English well

2614) Message boards : Number crunching : Maximum elapsed time exceeded (Message 1135354)
Posted 3 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

For this to happen the estimates are very wrong
- your GPU need ~18-20 minutes per task (running 2 tasks in parallel)
and the estimated time is obviously < 2 minutes.

If you have <flops>.....</flops> in your app_info.xml - check/correct them.

Use the BOINC Rescheduler -> Expert tab to "Limit ..... -177 errors"

2615) Questions and Answers : Web site : Server Not Working Correctly (Message 1135343)
Posted 3 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"I've actually seen this happen before ..." - I don't say it does not happen, I say it should not happen
(not giving credit for correct work which the server asked from the client to do).

"... causing the newly sent out workunit to be irrelevant" is true considering science.

But considering the "deal" made between the server and the client it's unfair.
Almost anyone will be upset if the computing time spent by his computer is not rewarded/acknowledged by credit.
And it reduces "Max tasks per day".

The best what the server can do is ask the client to cancel the already made "deal" - send the abort request if the task is not already started at the client.
If the client aborts the task the workunit is free to become "case closed".
If the client do not report the task (as aborted or finished) the server have to wait up until the deadline.

(If somebody makes a deal with you saying: "Do this work for me and I will pay you"
you will want your payment (for good, in-time completed work) even if the contractor do not need your work anymore at the time you finish it.

You don't care (and don't even know) that the work was given to you only because another person failed to complete the same work in-time.

What will be your verdict in this case?
(if you "play" judge this time ;) )
)

2616) Questions and Answers : Web site : Server Not Working Correctly (Message 1135078)
Posted 2 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I agree with all you say here up to this point:
"... thereby concluding the "tie breaker" and granting credit to the original three machines."

Yes, that happened in reality - but this "concluding the "tie breaker"" is not supposed (IMHO) to happen if there is task still "In progress".
Fair play from the server will be to postpone the validation so credit can be granted to all fair playing clients.

2617) Message boards : Number crunching : Which GPU is Better (Message 1135060)
Posted 2 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"Better" for what?

If for SETI:
- with nVidia - you can continue to use the standard SETI apps (which BOINC automatically downloads and updates)
- with ATI/AMD GPU - there are (so far) NO standard SETI apps - you have to manually get and put the apps in place (How? - read the forums)


Take a look at your Error tasks:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5960588&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=

They consume huge time without making progress so BOINC aborted them.
Sometimes restart of BOINC may "un-stuck" such tasks (or just [Suspend]/[Resume] the task).
(so I don't think that by "half the time the machine is running Windows 7 32 bit and the other half its Windows 7 64 bit"
you mean "2 times a day I reboot" - one task shows that you have not rebooted for at least a week)

But it's known bug with the standard SETI apps and some AMD CPUs that tasks may hang at the beginning (when "Optimal function choices" is done).

2618) Questions and Answers : Windows : Server down? (Message 1135052)
Posted 2 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

By "downloading process do not start" do you mean that all downloads stay always at 0% (or are they slowly go up in % downloaded)?

If they do not "move" for days/weeks you may be affected by "HE connection problems"
Read the first 2 threads in Message boards : Number crunching
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_forum.php?id=10

2619) Questions and Answers : Web site : Server Not Working Correctly (Message 1135039)
Posted 2 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

My letter to David Anderson:

On 01-Aug-2011 11:57 AM, BilBg NotGates wrote:
>
> Can you take a look at this thread?:
>
> http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64992
>
> Is this the proper way validator is designed to work?
>


His reply:

That looks like a bug;
a task completed by its deadline should get credit.
I'll look into it.
-- David

2620) Questions and Answers : Web site : Server Not Working Correctly (Message 1134896)
Posted 1 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

But why the canonical result has been chosen before all already sent tasks are reported or miss the deadline?

2621) Questions and Answers : Web site : Server Not Working Correctly (Message 1134887)
Posted 1 Aug 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I don't think this "likely scenario" is supposed to happen (it's not by design).

All the sent tasks (replications of the same WU) have to get credit (by design)
if they are returned (reported) before the deadline and the results are correct (compare OK with the other results).

There is maybe bug in the validate logic.


http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=741571872
Task		Computer	Sent			Time reported or deadline	Status			Run time	CPU time	Credit	Application

1905523477	4414279	11 May 2011 | 4:22:00 UTC	18 May 2011 | 3:43:01 UTC	Completed and validated	1,239.48	48.44		116.19	SETI@home Enhanced Anonymous platform (NVIDIA GPU)
1905523478	5453750	11 May 2011 | 4:21:59 UTC	12 May 2011 | 19:26:35 UTC	Completed and validated	19,365.73	19,065.21	116.19	SETI@home Enhanced v6.03 
1914542516	5813623	18 May 2011 | 8:21:43 UTC	6 Jul 2011 | 1:20:17 UTC	Completed and validated	11,407.08	11,329.26	116.19	SETI@home Enhanced v6.03 
1982544584	6120747	6 Jul 2011 | 0:57:32 UTC	1 Aug 2011 | 6:34:32 UTC	Completed,too late to validate 9,591.20	8,826.14	0.00	SETI@home Enhanced Anonymous platform (CPU)







2622) Message boards : Number crunching : Can't report or get new tasks (Message 1134155)
Posted 30 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I asked earlier:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=63664&nowrap=true#1124472

Do the SETI server see the same "External IP address" for all your Linux and Windows machines?

If they connect from different External IP addresses they may be affected by the "HE connection problems".

Did you try to set/use HTTP Proxy in BOINC options?
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64691
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64691&nowrap=true#1129151

2623) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Cannot access my old e-mail address(Account) (Message 1133055)
Posted 28 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I can't get the password because my old e-mail address is no longer active.

What happens when you enter your "old e-mail address (which) is no longer active" in this form?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php

What message do you get?
(copy the message here (without the actual email part))

2624) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Should I abort work units when swapping out my GPU for a different model? (Message 1131617)
Posted 25 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The reason why the 256MB card runs in one box but not in another is (most probably) the driver version
- older drivers consume less video memory.

You can use GPU-Z to check the amount of used video memory (and much more):
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

Don't abort prematurely - see first what happens when you change the card.
(to many variables involved to discuss in short - just try and see)

2625) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Qualified GPU (Message 1131615)
Posted 25 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Read this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64196

In the discussion there are some links to suitable PCI (not PCIe) cards.

I think the card will be recognized in any PCI slot if you choose in BIOS "Init display first: PCI"

2626) Questions and Answers : Windows : Computer ID, what defines them ? (Message 1131572)
Posted 25 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Why "edits"? (I presume you mean manual edits)

boinc.exe (the local client) regularly changes/updates the client_state.xml file with new info
(maybe every minute if you don't change the default "Tasks checkpoint to disk at most every 60 seconds")

On the 4 computers I used for SETI in the past ~4 years it never happened (IIRC)
- they always keep the initial ID given at the time of first attach.
(and I never did reformat the disk or re-install Windows)

2627) Questions and Answers : Windows : Computer ID, what defines them ? (Message 1131564)
Posted 25 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/HostId

"The computer ID and the RPC sequence number are also stored in the client's client_state.xml file. The client increments the RPC sequence number on each scheduler request.

If the scheduling server receives an RPC with a sequence number less than the expected sequence number (usually indicating that the user has copied the client_state.xml file between computers)
it creates a new database record and returns a new ID."


Maybe this means that if the computer sends scheduler request and the scheduling server receives it OK
but the computer hangs/crash (BSOD) before updating the RPC sequence number in client_state.xml file
then at next scheduler request the scheduling server "creates a new database record and returns a new ID".

<project>
    <master_url>http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/</master_url>
    <project_name>SETI@home</project_name>
    <symstore></symstore>
    <user_name>BilBg</user_name>
    <team_name>HardwareBG SETI Team</team_name>
    <host_venue>home</host_venue>
    <cpid_time>1180238970.000000</cpid_time>
    <user_total_credit>827123.292967</user_total_credit>
    <user_expavg_credit>164.719242</user_expavg_credit>
    <user_create_time>1180238970.000000</user_create_time>
    <rpc_seqno>16348</rpc_seqno>
    <hostid>4832843</hostid>


How to revert to an older HostID number?:
http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?language=1&view=293

2628) Questions and Answers : Windows : Computer ID, what defines them ? (Message 1131544)
Posted 25 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

To see and read the BSOD (or better - make photo of the BSOD screen) - uncheck Auto Restart:
(BSOD message will stay on screen until you press Reset or on/off buttons on the computer)




And the new computer ID is just the next available number.

(IDs are not reused, your laptop is #6010844 because at the time you added it to the project
all the numbers from #1 to #6010843 were taken/used by (somebody's) attached computers in the past.
So NewID(yours) = LastID(in existence) + 1
)

I don't think there is such thing "built around vista".
XP is more popular than Vista so any hardware vendor will be inclined to supply driver for XP

2629) Message boards : Number crunching : ~ Temporary Fix for HE connection problems ~ (Message 1130958)
Posted 23 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Off-topic:
Sorry - the image I posted in the first post disappeared (as well almost all other images I posted in the past)
because the ploader.net site I often use for free image hosting do not work since today:

http://ploader.net/

"Account Suspended
This Account Has Been Suspended"

Anyone know why ploader.net is banned and by whom?


(ploader.net do not use/require personal accounts - there is (was) no option to create one.
The message "This Account Has Been Suspended" have to mean the ploader.net itself is disabled.
)

The "info" I found so far:
http://x10hosting.com/forums/free-hosting/163127-account-suspended-why.html

http://www.ip-adress.com/ip_tracer/ploader.net
http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/ploader.net
http://who.godaddy.com/whois.aspx?domain=ploader.net&prog_id=GoDaddy

2630) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Goodbye (Message 1130422)
Posted 21 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm curious as to why AstroPulse locks up your machine when MultiBeam (both AP and MB are SETI@Home workunit types) doesn't.


I think that by "seems like it locks up on AP and not SETI@home units"
Alvin Hooper meant "seems like it gets/downloads only AP and not SETI@home units"?

Or does he refer to longer running times?

Hard to guess by only this short note.

2631) Message boards : Number crunching : ~ Temporary Fix for HE connection problems ~ (Message 1129151)
Posted 18 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Be careful - some of the Proxy servers listed to reside in one country are in fact located in other!
http://www.xroxy.com/proxylist.php?type=Anonymous


Check the origin of the IP address:

http://clientn.real-hide-ip.com/map/whatismyip.php
http://ipinfodb.com/
http://country.my-proxy.com/

http://www.ip-secrets.com/land.php
http://whatismyipaddress.com/
http://www.ip-adress.com/ip_tracer/

http://geo.flagfox.net/


e.g. 209.88.88.40:80 shown in the USA list:
http://www.xroxy.com/proxylist.php?type=Anonymous&country=US

is in fact in:
Country: Zimbabwe
City: Harare

2632) Questions and Answers : Getting started : CPU and GPU preferences (Message 1129141)
Posted 18 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The option:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

is:
Should SETI@home show your computers on its web site? yes

My computers:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=8647488

(look at the Details to see that much less info is shown (e.g. only I can see the IP address of My computers))

2633) Message boards : Number crunching : ~ Temporary Fix for HE connection problems ~ (Message 1126153)
Posted 9 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Three people (dd3vm, Dr. Wolfram Sperber, "Wild Turkey") reported success using Proxy:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64652&nowrap=true#1124905
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64652&nowrap=true#1125551

One (Vinay) reported the opposite - success after disabling the Proxy:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64652&nowrap=true#1124783

2634) Message boards : Number crunching : AP for NV GPUs started on Lunatics (Message 1124477)
Posted 4 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
As I said in the other thread, I have dropped my MB CUDA work down to two at a time and changed the count on the AP CUDA to .5.
.........
I was a little afraid it would finish the MB I was running and pick up the AP but it didn't. It picked up another MB and is happily crunching away!

Then set AP CUDA (AP OpenCL for nVidia) to 0.51 and MB CUDA to 0.49
and BOINC will never start 2 AP tasks on GPU at the same time.

2635) Message boards : Number crunching : Can't report or get new tasks (Message 1124472)
Posted 4 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do all of your Computers:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=7992989

(which you say "use the same ADSL line and hide behind the same IP-address")

show the same "External IP address"?
(after you click "Details" and "Show IP address")

2636) Message boards : Number crunching : But for the love of Gandhi! (Message 1124410)
Posted 3 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I think the difference in speed is caused by the different priority:

Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe - runs at "Normal" priority (some people report lags in games/video/flash)
Lunatics_x39e_win32_cuda32.exe - runs at "Bellow Normal" priority

(Note: My "knowledge" on this is based solely on what I read on the forums. Somebody can confirm?)

2637) Message boards : Number crunching : ~ Temporary Fix for HE connection problems ~ (Message 1124336)
Posted 3 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

No feedback?

Do you still have problems connecting?
(If you can connect but with trouble/retries it's OK/normal when line to/from SETI servers is overloaded:
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets;ranges=d
)


If you can't connect for weeks - you can try the Proxy "way".

Do you have connection success using Proxy?
Which Proxy do you use?
(I still use 217.196.235.18 : 80 to test that it continues to work (and it works for me as I just now downloaded 3 tasks))

Which Proxy do you recommend for this purpose (BOINC/SETI) and which not?
Why?


Do you think Sten-Arne's concerns are valid or are they another Escherichia coli "syndrome"? ;)
(too much noise for a rare problem)

2638) Questions and Answers : Wish list : BOINC Task List - A new column showing the project (Message 1124284)
Posted 3 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I don't know how it looks in BOINC 6.12.26 but all previous versions (< 6.12.xx) have Project column in Tasks tab

2639) Questions and Answers : Windows : Unable to connect (Message 1124181)
Posted 3 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The screen saver will not work. The error message is blank. How can I get the screensaver to work?

You don't need the screensaver to do the computations - it only shows some graphical representation.
To see it you can try [Show graphics] button in BOINC Manager (click on "Running" task first)

What do you mean by "The error message is blank"?
If you choose "Protected application execution" (= run as a service) during the install it is probable that the screensaver will not work.


Is it really processing the tasks in the background?

You can see in Windows Task Manager the processes which use the most CPU time.
They will be with "Low" priority.

2640) Message boards : Number crunching : Do you like Granola ? (Message 1124022)
Posted 2 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

It's obvious - if "the cores are at 50%" then the computer will have half the previous "production" for SETI

"It does not compromise performance!" and "without slowing down the machine"
probably means that if some process with >= "Normal Priority" wants the CPU it gets it.
But it seems the "Low Priority" SETI process is throttled.

2641) Questions and Answers : Windows : Manager hangs on 'Downloading Work From Server' (Message 1123987)
Posted 2 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Read the first 2 threads in Number crunching:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_forum.php?id=10

(those with "HE connection problems" in name)

2642) Questions and Answers : Windows : Temperature of CPU in dropped? (Message 1123982)
Posted 2 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Used SIV 'System Information Viewer' and it appears to show 100% use of CPU when SETI running. Task Manager also shows 4 cpu's at 100%, with a very small amount of "red" Kernel time in use.


I was asking about what GHz speed is shown about CPU, not the CPU load.
(If I say "your CPU runs at lower speed" I supposed you will look at that value)

You can check now:
Start SIV, look what GHz speed is shown about CPU (it will show 4 lines for your 4 cores)
Now start ASUS "EPU-4 engine" and choose "Max power saving mode"
You will see the new GHz speed in SIV

Return to "High performance mode"
GHz will go up to the "normal" Max value for your CPU

Now exit BOINC
You may see that CPU runs at lower GHz if it's idle.
That is normal if you have enabled "AMD Cool'n'Quiet" in BIOS

http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/cool-n-quiet/Pages/cool-n-quiet.aspx

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cool'n'Quiet

2643) Questions and Answers : Windows : Will BOINC utilize both GPU's in a... (Message 1123968)
Posted 2 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This is actualy what I got my eye on, even when I asked about the last card. Newegg had it but made it a deactivated item for some reason, hell, the card just came out this year. In any case, I found it at Tiger Direct and theyre out of stock right now but said they'd have more in about a week or two, lot of good it does me though because I only got maybe half the cash saved.

MSI N580GTX GeForce GTX 580 Lightning Xtreme

I have plans to eventually get two of these in SLI, and the best part is they're nVIDIA's so they'll work by default for GPU tasks. Soo, the only file I should need is the one to make the system see both GPU's.

Edit: The only thing I would have issues with is setting up the Cc_config.xml file... I looked over the previously posted link and there's alot of stuff to config.


Read again:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64361&nowrap=true#1114479

For GPU computing you don't need SLI

And if you ever need cc_config.xml - don't use CAPS (in the file name and/or inside) - the file may not be recognized.

2644) Message boards : Number crunching : ~ Temporary Fix for HE connection problems ~ (Message 1123881)
Posted 2 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


The server:
82.206.129.160 : 3128
is really shown to reside in Chad, Africa !
(despite it is in the list for UK on http://www.xroxy.com/proxy-country-GB.htm)


Better to use:
217.196.235.18 : 80
... shown to be in:
Weybridge in Surrey, United Kingdom
ISP: HighSpeed Office Limited
Organization: Epsom College


To check where the server (any IP) is - use these sites:

http://clientn.real-hide-ip.com/map/whatismyip.php
http://ipinfodb.com/
http://www.ip-secrets.com/

http://whatismyipaddress.com/
http://www.ip-adress.com/
http://geo.flagfox.net/


I think that it's very unlikely that any Proxy owner/admin (even in Chad)
will be interested to scan the (big) traffic to find SETI@home passwords/authenticators
simply because they do not earn money for him.

(And I never suggested to use unknown Proxies when connecting to a bank/payment site)


The traffic to/from SETI@home servers is not encrypted so if you are too paranoid
you can also be scared that your SETI@home passwords/authenticators
will be stolen somewhere in the long path (shown by TraceRt) between you and SETI@home lab.

Even if you use direct connection (no Proxy) any admin in that path can scan
the unencrypted traffic and see the authenticator, correct?

<scheduler_request>
<authenticator>1234567890abcdef25325235363</authenticator>
<hostid>4832843</hostid>
...

2645) Message boards : Number crunching : Which quiet and fast GPU to buy? (Message 1123380)
Posted 1 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You can't have spaces in the URL - replace them by %20
(Opera does this automatically, you are probably using IE)

WOW: I was < 1 sec faster than Sutaru ;)

2646) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI GPU problem (Message 1123345)
Posted 1 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

There are preferences:
Web (http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global):
"Suspend GPU work while computer is in use?"

in BOINC Manager (if you set preferences here the (all corresponding) Web settings are ignored for this computer):
"Use GPU while computer is in use?"

2647) Message boards : Number crunching : Electrical cost of computing (Message 1123299)
Posted 1 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I think it will be very stupid if Germany really ban the nuclear energy.
I hope your next government will be smart enough to ban the ban ;)

2648) Message boards : Number crunching : Which quiet and fast GPU to buy? (Message 1123293)
Posted 1 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Sometimes there are totally passive solutions (no fan, no noise) but they don't use the fastest GPUs, e.g.:

SAPPHIRE Ultimate HD5670 1GB GDDR5
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1&gid=3&sgid=915&pid=352&psn=000101&lid=1&leg=0

SAPPHIRE Ultimate HD 6670 1GB GDDR5
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1&gid=3&sgid=1088&pid=1240&psn=000101&lid=1&leg=0

2649) Message boards : Number crunching : ~ Temporary Fix for HE connection problems ~ (Message 1123271)
Posted 1 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you get:
01/07/2011 08:10:38 SETI@home Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server

... press [Update] again - some Proxy servers don't respond every time.


Using 217.196.235.18:80 I just received this:

01/07/2011 08:10:14 SETI@home update requested by user
01/07/2011 08:10:15 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
01/07/2011 08:10:15 SETI@home Requesting new tasks
01/07/2011 08:10:19 Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
01/07/2011 08:10:19 SETI@home Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server
01/07/2011 08:10:23 BOINC can't access Internet - check network connection or proxy configuration.

01/07/2011 08:10:32 SETI@home update requested by user
01/07/2011 08:10:34 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
01/07/2011 08:10:34 SETI@home Requesting new tasks
01/07/2011 08:10:38 SETI@home Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server

01/07/2011 08:10:50 SETI@home update requested by user
01/07/2011 08:10:53 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
01/07/2011 08:10:53 SETI@home Requesting new tasks
01/07/2011 08:10:57 SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 8 new tasks
01/07/2011 08:10:59 SETI@home Started download of 26fe11ad.11829.21335.14.10.143
01/07/2011 08:10:59 SETI@home Started download of 26fe11ad.11829.21335.14.10.110
01/07/2011 08:11:05 SETI@home Finished download of 26fe11ad.11829.21335.14.10.143
01/07/2011 08:11:05 SETI@home Started download of 26fe11ad.16293.2112.15.10.131
01/07/2011 08:11:06 SETI@home Finished download of 26fe11ad.11829.21335.14.10.110
01/07/2011 08:11:06 SETI@home Started download of 26fe11ad.11829.21335.14.10.111
01/07/2011 08:11:09 SETI@home Finished download of 26fe11ad.11829.21335.14.10.111
01/07/2011 08:11:09 SETI@home Started download of 26fe11ad.11829.21335.14.10.113
01/07/2011 08:11:11 SETI@home Finished download of 26fe11ad.16293.2112.15.10.131
01/07/2011 08:11:11 SETI@home Started download of 26fe11ad.11829.21335.14.10.147
01/07/2011 08:11:13 SETI@home Finished download of 26fe11ad.11829.21335.14.10.113
01/07/2011 08:11:13 SETI@home Started download of 30mr11aa.5247.6202.6.10.111
01/07/2011 08:11:16 SETI@home Finished download of 26fe11ad.11829.21335.14.10.147
01/07/2011 08:11:16 SETI@home Started download of 30mr11aa.5247.6202.6.10.149
01/07/2011 08:11:20 SETI@home Finished download of 30mr11aa.5247.6202.6.10.111
01/07/2011 08:11:22 SETI@home Finished download of 30mr11aa.5247.6202.6.10.149


And I think that downloads go way faster than usual but it may be just because the line is not saturated:
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets;ranges=d

2650) Message boards : Number crunching : ~ Temporary Fix for HE connection problems ~ (Message 1123249)
Posted 1 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


This one works also:
217.196.235.18 : 80 (Anonymous, UK)

(I successfully reported 2 tasks, No noticeable Delay/Latency over direct connection)


I intentionally choose to try UK Proxy servers (and not USA Proxy servers)
- it seems to me that many complains about no connection came from different places/users/IP-addresses in USA.

You are free to try/choose Proxy servers in other Country, e.g. Netherlands:
http://www.xroxy.com/proxylist.php?country=NL


(I try to choose Transparent or Anonymous HTTP Proxy servers as I don't know if other types (as CoDeeN or Distorting) will work properly.
Somebody with more knowledge about Proxy types may correct me and explain what type is best in our case.
)

2651) Message boards : Number crunching : ~ Temporary Fix for HE connection problems ~ (Message 1123182)
Posted 1 Jul 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


? Quick temporary fix for those that can't connect but have completed tasks to Upload/Report

Use Proxy server:

I tried several with no success but this appears to be working
212.118.224.151 : 80 (Transparent, UK)

http://www.xroxy.com/proxy-country-GB.htm





P.S.
The "problem" is that I have no problem ;)
My computers connect OK in "normal" way (without Proxy in Options)

So somebody with connection problems have to test this ...


2652) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI GPU apps for HD3xxx? (Message 1122556)
Posted 29 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
BTW, are there any programs, that can tell me how much video RAM is in use?


AMD Memory Viewer (ATI GPU Memory Viewer)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=63210&nowrap=true#1111622

http://www.amd.com/us/products/workstation/graphics/tools/pages/tools.aspx

2653) Questions and Answers : Windows : avg flagged bionic files (Message 1122526)
Posted 28 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You can check that the 5 SETI files exist in the shown directory.
If they disappear (deleted/moved) BOINC downloads them again automatically.

I guess they may be shown by AVG as "Corrupted" if you did the scan at the time of their download
(so the files were part-files/partly-downloaded (not ready for execution) at the time of the scan)

You can check also in Windows Task Manager that the 2 .exe files are running
(if you have corresponding tasks that are shown "Running" in BOINC Manager).


Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing



2654) Questions and Answers : Windows : Temperature of CPU in dropped? (Message 1122335)
Posted 28 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Since the CPU time almost doubled:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5941186&offset=0&show_names=1&state=3&appid=

17 May 2011 - 40 000 sec/task
27 Jun 2011 - 75 000 sec/task

and temperature of the CPU is lower -
both are symptoms that your CPU runs at lower speed (probably half speed)


Get SIV 'System Information Viewer' and check what it shows:
http://www.rh-software.com/

Then check/correct the "Power scheme/profile" selected in Win 7 (maybe in Control Panel)


(You forgot to say which program did you use to check the temperatures;
And do you look at the CPU core/diode (internal) or the external CPU temperature (motherboard sensor) - SIV shows both)

2655) Questions and Answers : Windows : Can anyone else hear the numbers being crunched? (Message 1121623)
Posted 26 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Your description "sounds" like interference between video card/chip and sound chip/circuitry.

Do you hear the same noise when speakers are unplugged from all ports and you use only headphones?
Do you have proper grounding?

May be also problem with dried/leaking filter capacitors or weak PSU (both can cause interference through the power lines)

Do you have some of the cables inside the computer that run near the video card?
Try to move/fix them away of the GPU.

2656) Message boards : Number crunching : Let's talk about ATI AP -unroll, -ffa_block, and -ffa_block_fetch (Message 1120234)
Posted 23 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

From the "Installer v0.38 Readme":
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;sa=dlview;id=282

" Tuning cmd line parameters:

For AP: If you get lags or worse driver restarts, decrease unroll.
If you run stable you can try to increase it.
ffa_block should be a multiple of ffa_block_fetch.
Start low e.g. -ffa_block 4096 -ffa_block_fetch 2048 and try increasing if it runs fine.
Sticking to the power of 2 line at first can help.
This will be a system specific best combination - too low slows you down, too high slows you down as well.
Remember AP runtimes depend on blanking % so only compare runtimes on similar blanking %.

For MB: other way round - if you experience lag or driver restarts increase
-period_iteration_num
"
2657) Questions and Answers : Web site : Security issue- password reset itself at 00:00AM (Message 1119957)
Posted 22 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I think it will be good to wait for Crun-chi to attach his computer to the new "empty" account.
This way he will prove the new account is in fact his and not of some cheater.

After you see the same computer details:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5923060

... listed on the new "empty" account you will be more confident who do you contact by PM or email.


@Crun-chi
I suggest you to refrain from checking (log-in) your account using public places or your "friend's" computers.

Use only your computer's browser (Google Chrome is notorious to not protect in any way the saved passwords)
and for now don't give others physical access to your computer (e.g. at party).

2658) Questions and Answers : Windows : Upload failures!! No point running SETI@home (Message 1119956)
Posted 22 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Which of your 4 Computers can't connect in a week?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=9487575

Is it ID: 5948404 ?

There were/are problems but they lasted for not more than a few hours (look the Weekly graph):
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets

2659) Questions and Answers : Windows : Will BOINC utilize both GPU's in a... (Message 1119955)
Posted 22 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Is this an ATI card .....

Which "this"??

2660) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Need to download cuda files (Message 1119944)
Posted 22 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setiathome_6.10_windows_intelx86__cuda_fermi.exe

http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/cudart32_30_14.dll

http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/cufft32_30_14.dll

(the 2 .DLLs have digital signatures - check them)

MD5 (generated by me using Total Commander after the download):
e448a1489782723161efaf99b9494661 *setiathome_6.10_windows_intelx86__cuda_fermi.exe
eca7d2828af021d221aad5fa859a7198 *cudart32_30_14.dll
90b7eaabfe9ceb2e791e26392514ff3f *cufft32_30_14.dll


Reminder: you need permission from the computer owner/boss or you may be fired if you run BOINC projects at work.


2661) Questions and Answers : Windows : Upload failures!! No point running SETI@home (Message 1119460)
Posted 20 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

It looks like they corrected the Upload problems ~2 hours ago:
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets;ranges=d

It may be still hard to Upload (as everyone's computers are trying now)
but at least the Upload have to be possible now.

2662) Message boards : Number crunching : Can't report or get new tasks (Message 1119386)
Posted 20 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Did you try to move the LAN cable to another LAN port on the DSL router and restart the router?
Or use the cable from the working machine to connect the non-working to the router?

I had problems in the past with:
1) (~ 3 years ago) Semi-working LAN card in the computer after lightning fall nearby
2) (~ 1 year ago) Semi-working LAN cable (bad contacting at the plug)

In both cases I had Internet connection but slow and with errors causing many auto-retries and timeouts/drops in the connection.

If something don't work at all it's easy to diagnose and find the problem.
If it's working but very bad you can wonder for long time where in the chain is the problem.

2663) Questions and Answers : Wish list : nVidia card list + RAC on SETI homepage, please! (Message 1118633)
Posted 18 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Overloaded network to/from SETI servers:
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;ranges=d;view=octets

Blue: Upload (from us to SETI servers)
Green: Download (from SETI servers to us)

2664) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Problem with Geforce GTX 560 Ti and Cuda_fermi (Message 1118632)
Posted 18 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Maybe you will be interested in table posted by f_n_t here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=63429&nowrap=true#1098575
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=63213&nowrap=true#1102075

He recommends slightly higher VDDC voltage for stability (using MSI Afterburner):
1.025 V @ 900 MHz
1.000 V @ 850 MHz

f_n_t posted this info 3 times:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_user_posts.php?userid=3654

2665) Message boards : Number crunching : What do those GeForce stats mean? (Message 1117238)
Posted 15 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Compute capability table:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA#Version_features_and_specifications

Compute capability list by type of GPU:
http://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-gpus


As you can see the Compute capability numbers are just version numbers
(not related to speed of computing - they designate what the GPU can do, not how fast it can Compute)


FLOPS tables:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_500_Series#Products
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_400_Series#Products

2666) Questions and Answers : Getting started : work units in error state (Message 1116464)
Posted 13 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Simply put:
If the task for whatever reason runs 10 times longer than the initial estimate (column "To completion")
BOINC aborts the task automatically as it decides that the task is hang/stuck.

(But why it happened to tasks with "Run time: 0.00" I don't know
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6014929&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=

Maybe because you just reached:
Consecutive valid tasks 11
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=6014929
)

Info on old threads:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60413&nowrap=true
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62226

2667) Questions and Answers : Wish list : nVidia card list + RAC on SETI homepage, please! (Message 1116445)
Posted 12 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

So I'm someone of the "no-one (you know what I mean)" ;)

I like desktops (3 of them) - I can dig easy inside, something difficult with laptops
(but my daughters (students) have laptops for mobility, I find laptops are mostly unusable for crunching as this makes them very hot).

I like CRT monitors, I hate LCD (you have to keep your head in the right angle all the time to have "proper" brightness and colors).

I like to play games (installed local games, not flash).

I care about specs (manufacturer/model) of every computer component.


Only because a few (100) people around you buy laptops and have no interest in games (and find µTorrent very complicated - Ha! :D )
don't give you enough clue to make worldwide conclusions.

The "newcomer" don't need to know what (CPU, GPU) will be used to do the computation (but it really helps if he is tech savvy (to deal with any hardware/software problems that may arise))
- if the project supports it BOINC will automatically use the CPU and GPU.
And if the "newcomer" is not tech savvy there are only 2 steps needed for the start:
1. Install BOINC
2. Add/Attach to project

And in fact SETI@home currently is overloaded with too much fast computers (GPUs)
so I don't think SETI@home needs for now to invite many "newcomers" (especially the computer-absolute-beginners which never install any program)

2668) Questions and Answers : Preferences : work settings on different projects (Message 1116202)
Posted 12 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Yes, you have to use "Resource share".

"5 days worth of work" is total sum of work for all the projects.

How can I set 5 day for seti and only get 1 work for another project?

If "1 work" means "1 day of work": 5+1 = 6 days total
so you have to:

1) Set total days to 6 here (or/and locally in BOINC Manager if you use local settings):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global

2) Using the "Resource share" setting of each project spread/divide the days as you wish (5 to 1):

on SETI@home preferences:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

set "Resource share" to 500
(on the "another project" site leave (or set) the "Resource share" at 100)

("Resource share" numbers are not %, you can use very big numbers as 1000000
In the above example you will have:
for SETI@home: 500/(500+100) "time units"
for "another project": 100/(500+100) "time units"

But if the computer is attached to more than 2 active projects their "Resource share" numbers add to the total number of "share units":
.../(500+100+RS3+RS4+...)
)

3) Wait enough time (weeks) for BOINC to be able to respect your "Resource share" settings.

2669) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Seti Classic Account (Message 1116190)
Posted 12 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

No need for such a long procedure - you have only 1 task on the "KS" account.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6025167

in BOINC Manager:
Just Remove/Detach from SETI@home project and Add/Attach again to SETI@home project
using the email of the "Kyleia" account. (! Don't type the email - use copy/paste from the "Kyleia" account to avoid errors!)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=557529

in BOINC Manager:
1) On "Projects" tab select SETI@home and press [Remove/Detach] button (wording depends on BOINC version)

2) From menu "Tools" choose "Add project",
in the dialog select SETI@home and choose "Yes, existing user",
Paste the email of the "Kyleia" account.

2670) Questions and Answers : Windows : Temperature Monitoring Programs (#2) (Message 1115396)
Posted 10 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
..and you've reported the problems to support?

Yes, using the File -> Submit Report... and giving email address
I already Submit 4-5 reports with issues or suggestions but no reply to the email.

It is "Beta", I would not be too alarmed that there are still issues.

I think it is "Beta" from the beginning, maybe version 1.x will be "Final"?

2671) Questions and Answers : Windows : No work for a while.. why? (Message 1115367)
Posted 10 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you are not in Advanced View - switch to it ("button" is at the bottom-right of the Simple View)

2672) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Seti Classic Account (Message 1115362)
Posted 10 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Did you read this?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic.php

Try the last link: "Claim your SETI@home Classic workunits"

(If you tried every email in an attempt to log-in the old account - you can't:
"These accounts were not given passwords (i.e., they can't be accessed using any password)."

I believe this is "real" Classic account - it never had computer attached using BOINC:
"When we launched SETI@home/BOINC, we created accounts for all SETI@home Classic users, with their existing email addresses. Each account includes the number of SETI@home Classic workunits completed, the CPU time, and the start date."
)

2673) Questions and Answers : Windows : No work for a while.. why? (Message 1115357)
Posted 10 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Most buttons need you to select some row (project, task) before you can click them.

Are you sure the message is exactly "calculation stopped"?
Usually it is "Suspended - <and here is the reason why>".
I presume you are using Advanced View.

2674) Questions and Answers : Wish list : if my pc finds anything, do I get to keep it? (Message 1115313)
Posted 10 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

SETI@home: Procedures for Public Announcement
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_glossary/public_announcement.php

Declaration of Principles Concerning Activities Following the Detection of Extraterrestrial Intelligence
http://www.setileague.org/iaaseti/protdet.htm

http://www.seti.org/page.aspx?pid=680

http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/D/Declar.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-detection_policies#IAA_SETI_Declaration_of_Principles


PDF - 30 September 2010
"These revised and streamlined Protocols are intended to replace the previous
document adopted by the International Academy of Astronautics in 1989."
http://www.setileague.org/iaaseti/protocols_rev2010.pdf

2675) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Merge Boinc (Message 1115302)
Posted 10 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You are right - I tried to make another account with the same email but using different casing
and the answer is "There's already an account with that email address."


Why I think that in previous years it was possible to make another account by mistake
if you supply in BOINC Manager (during attach to project) the "same" email (yours)
but using different casing?

2676) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Merge Boinc (Message 1115292)
Posted 10 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I think it's possible to use the "same" email for 2 different accounts
because the projects' servers think the CaSe of letters MaTTers in the email address.
(as opposite to email servers/sites which do not distinguish between abc@xyz333xyz.com and ABC@xyz333xyz.com)

E.g. these are considered the same when you send email but are different when you make an account here:
RobertMacLennan@xyz333xyz.com
robertmaclennan@xyz333xyz.com

Edit:
Sorry, not true (see later post) - if you try to make a new account (here, on this site) with the same email but using different casing you can't ("Can't create account" error message).
I didn't tested to make new account from the BOINC Manager.

2677) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU Profiler (Message 1115288)
Posted 10 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If it was the case the message would be: "This thread has been hidden by moderators":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64320&nowrap=true#1111682

2678) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU Profiler (Message 1115286)
Posted 10 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I looked at the "Posts by redpower861":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_user_posts.php?userid=9507177

and see something called "Alien Skies message board",
I click the link for the (Message 1114646)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64420&nowrap=true#1114646

and get "This forum is not visible to you."!?

I see such message for the first time and wonder:
why person with:
Joined: 8 Jun 11
Posts: 3
Credit: 0
RAC: 0

can see and post there and I can't??

2679) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : More than one WU per GPU at the same time ? (Message 1115282)
Posted 10 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
*EDIT* - gave Open Hardware Monitor a try, and unfortunately like GPU-Z, it doesn't display GPU memory consumption for ATI GPUs. not the end of the world though...plus i like the interface, so i may end up using it. i'm starting to think that ATI's Catalyst drivers just aren't designed with such a parameter for GPU utilities to display, unlike nVidia's GeForce drivers.


I have issues with Open Hardware Monitor Version 0.3.2 Beta:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62044&nowrap=true#1115279

2680) Questions and Answers : Windows : Temperature Monitoring Programs (#2) (Message 1115279)
Posted 10 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I have issues with Open Hardware Monitor Version 0.3.2 Beta
http://openhardwaremonitor.org/

I tested it for a week and it seems the problems only occur when Open Hardware Monitor is running.

In the beginning I used (Enabled) both the "Gadget" window and the tray icons,
later I tested with only tray icons Enabled (Temperatures for CPU, System, HDD; CPU Load "blue bar").

I tested first with several Monitoring Programs running at the same time (CoreTemp, SIV, TThrottle, Open Hardware Monitor),
then with only Open Hardware Monitor running.
(I have no problems running CoreTemp + SIV + TThrottle simultaneously)


On one computer Open Hardware Monitor (as I think) causes switch OFF (as if electricity stops) in a matter of minutes or hours:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5732288

SUMICOM S620
http://www.kingyoung.com.tw/S620.htm


On another computer it causes hang in a matter of hours or days:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4832843

(Hang = Mouse pointer moves (pointer = arrow, Not hourglass), Keyboard "active" (NumLock LED can be changed On/Off)
but (for minutes) no program reacts to Mouse clicks (e.g. the [Start] button)
and to Keyboard presses (WinKey, Alt-Tab, Alt-F4, Ctrl-Alt-Delete)
and no HDD activity (for minutes) (usually at least µTorrent causes HDD activity every few seconds).

To reboot I needed to press the "Reset" button (on the computer case).
)

2681) Questions and Answers : Windows : Work credits (Message 1115272)
Posted 10 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

How to get Credits?
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=63252&nowrap=true

2682) Questions and Answers : Windows : Will BOINC utilize both GPU's in a... (Message 1114479)
Posted 8 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm actually looking at building a new system for gaming / BOINC which includes dual SLI NVIDIA FERMI cards so all I should really need is maybe a CC_Config file to make sure both GPU's are seen.

I decided against the ATI's for various reasons, one of which is making sure I always had a good app_info file for all the projects I would be running.

You don't need cc_config.xml to use both GPUs if they are the same type/model/version -
BOINC will use them both automatically.

With NVIDIA you don't need app_info.xml for SETI

If you are interested in other projects - I don't know which of them works "by default" on ATI only and not on NVIDIA FERMI

2683) Questions and Answers : Web site : Can't upload results (Message 1113856)
Posted 6 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64398&nowrap=true#1113824

2684) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows XP freezes up after a day or more of inactivity (Message 1113836)
Posted 6 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Excluding from Anti-Virus scan via Trusted zone:

Kaspersky Anti-Virus trust zone may include the following objects:
files accessed by software sensitive to file intercepts (trusted processes);
files accessed by backup operations (backup copy creation processes);
user-defined files and scripts by location and/or detected threat (exclusion rules).

Exclusion rules:

Objects can be excluded from any particular tasks without using the trusted zone.
You can also generate a common trusted zone exclusion list and apply these exclusions in selected on-demand-scan and Real-time file protection tasks as necessary.

http://support.kaspersky.com/faq/?qid=208283551



Configuring task-specific scan exceptions:

Exclude selected files, scripts or folders:
Select an Anti-virus task in the console.
Go to the tab Configuring scan scope
Uncheck boxes of files/folders which you want to exclude from scan.

http://support.kaspersky.com/faq/?qid=208283565



(I never used Kaspersky myself, I use NOD32)

2685) Questions and Answers : Windows : trouble up- and downloading (Message 1113834)
Posted 6 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The answer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64398&nowrap=true#1113824

2686) Questions and Answers : Windows : Downloads? (Message 1113833)
Posted 6 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This was never this way before! Something else has changed, but I do not know what.

Faster and faster computers crunching and demanding more work per hour.
The same 100 Mbps line.

2687) Questions and Answers : Windows : Backwards???? (Message 1113826)
Posted 6 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

For how long this "progress reverse, countdown" continues?
If it is for seconds it is normal - when you restart task it "reverses" to/resumes from the last saved state (checkpoint).

(And you talk about "Progress", Not "Time to Completion", right?)

2688) Questions and Answers : Windows : HTTP Error (Message 1113824)
Posted 6 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Just problems on SETI servers:
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;ranges=d;view=octets

Blue: Upload (from us to SETI servers)
Green: Download (from SETI servers to us)

2689) Questions and Answers : Windows : Not enough disk space... BS ! (Message 1113821)
Posted 6 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"... AND kept 7 days of data ..."
7 days are not per project - this is total for all the projects.
And 7 days are calendar days, not "computing" days (e.g. if BOINC runs only 1 hour per day then "7 days of data" = "7 hours of data")

7 days work for slow computer may be just 1 MB SETI tasks (= 3 SETI tasks).
7 days work for fast computer (8 GPUs) will be 1000s of SETI tasks.

P.S.
Why do you type "SETI" as "SeTI"?
Is "SeTI" the "Search for Terrestrial Intelligence"? ;)

2690) Questions and Answers : Windows : What do you keep your cross project settings at ? (Message 1113814)
Posted 6 Jun 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

OK, but these are called "Computing preferences", not "cross project settings"

I set "Suspend work when non-BOINC CPU usage is above" to 0 (zero) = no restriction
(and not feel any slowdown - SETI apps run at lowest possible priority)

To keep your laptop cool:
instead of "Use at most 90% of CPU time"

try TThrottle
http://www.efmer.eu/boinc/download.html

Set the Max CPU Temperature, click "Auto active"
and TThrottle will reduce the CPU load used by SETI to keep the CPU Temperature as you selected.

2691) Questions and Answers : Windows : Running screensaver with GPU WUs running (Message 1111698)
Posted 31 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do you understand that running tasks on GPU is many times more effective/faster than on CPU?
Most people try to do the tasks on GPU, some even only on GPU.
And most people use the screensaver very rarely or never.


Max frames/second for graphics
0 or blank if no limit
Maximum CPU % for graphics
0 ... 100

These are very obvious - you can limit the FPS and CPU % used to display graphics on the screensaver
(as the screensaver slows down the computations by using CPU time)


Oh and then of course there's this for Einstein which also has a GPU off setting:
Run CPU versions of applications for which GPU versions are available

Einstein have several "Searches":
Binary Radio Pulsar Search
Global Correlations S5 HF search #1
Gravitational Wave S6 GC search

For some Searches there are both CPU and GPU applications, for some - only CPU application.

So read this as:
Run also CPU versions of applications for which GPU versions are available

(as most people want to do the tasks on GPU and don't want to use the CPU if GPU application is available they disable this option.
This way the CPU will be used only for Searches for which there is No GPU application.
)

2692) Questions and Answers : Windows : Not enough disk space... BS ! (Message 1111685)
Posted 31 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

SETI@home don't need much HDD space, you may use:

Disk: use at most 2 GB
Disk: leave free at least 1 GB


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlanetQuest

"PlanetQuest is a grid computing project for discovering new planets and classifying stars from Earth-based observatories' images.

The PlanetQuest project is currently still under development, and will utilize the BOINC (Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing) platform.

Note: The PlanetQuest website has not been updated since 2006."

2693) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : More than one WU per GPU at the same time ? (Message 1111655)
Posted 31 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Try to press the ATI logo (it is button but what its function?)

2694) Questions and Answers : Windows : Temperature Monitoring Programs (#2) (Message 1111587)
Posted 31 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

NVIDIA Inspector (page in German):
http://blog.orbmu2k.de/tools/nvidia-inspector-tool

Google Translate (to English):
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.orbmu2k.de%2Ftools%2Fnvidia-inspector-tool





To start "Multi Display Power Saver" right-click the [Show Overclocking] button.

2695) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : More than one WU per GPU at the same time ? (Message 1111585)
Posted 31 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

This is how Open Hardware Monitor (only 240 KB) looks on my PC:
http://openhardwaremonitor.org/

Main window:




"Gadget" window (Gadget works on Win XP from which is the screenshot):




(this is integrated GPU "NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430" using 128 MB of the "normal" memory as video memory so not much info shown about the GPU)

( 3 months ago I posted the link here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62044&nowrap=true#1075235
... but forget about it till now ;)

You can also try GPU Caps Viewer posted in the same place.
)

2696) Questions and Answers : Web site : No Work/Project? (Message 1111273)
Posted 30 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Describe what do you mean by: "Each time I reconnect to the project" and "After my PC is disconnected from SETI"
(how you "reconnect" and how "disconnect"??)

Do you use Account Manager (BAM)?

2697) Message boards : Number crunching : Need HELP!!! (Message 1110466)
Posted 27 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

CC Config ---
<cc_config>
  <options>
    <use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
  </options>
</cc_config>


I don't see any lines in your startup that have
Config:

in them, which one should see if the cc_config file is being read.
Is the cc_config in the Boinc data dir that's being used?
Above, it is
D:\My Documents
Is that where you really run Boinc from?

-Dave


1) Yes, cc_config.xml is in the BOINC data directory.
2) BOINC is run from C:\Program Files(x86)\BOINC. The data directory is D:\My Documents\. PROJECTS, SLOTS & SYMBOLS are in this directory. This setup is on all of my machines for several years and this the first problem of this sort that I have had.


So are you sure?:
- the file name is cc_config.xml
- you put it in D:\My Documents
- the file is saved in ANSI (Not Unicode/UTF)
- you restarted BOINC

You will see if it works (if the file is seen and used):
5/26/2011 10:37:45 PM | | Starting BOINC client version 6.12.26 for windows_x86_64
5/26/2011 10:37:45 PM | | config: use all coprocessors
5/26/2011 10:37:45 PM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task

2698) Message boards : Number crunching : Upload Issues (Message 1110459)
Posted 27 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
All very funny...

The page states what time the last update was done. If that time is for example one hour or more old than the current time, then the statement could be shown in red for example, just something that all can clearly see.

And if the process that generates the updates is crashed, how does it know to show the last update in
red?

No idea, but I can't believe it can't be done somehow.

It can be done using javascript (embedded in the "Server status page"):
Get current time (UTC), compare it to the time written on the page (top-left field),
if >some difference then do whatever (e.g. color it red, add "Warning: ...")

2699) Questions and Answers : Windows : "Suspend tasks" Question (Message 1109798)
Posted 26 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
"if I suspend the tasks for a couple days will it hurt the accuracy of the results?" :) of course no

But if you have electricity you don't need to suspend anything.
You can stop Internet for days or even weeks, the results will be automatically send back to Berkeley when you reconnect the Internet cable.


On the other hand I don't see any tasks "In progress", only "Completed ...":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5953062

... on your computer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5953062

What do you want to suspend??


That is how it looks if you have tasks on board:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=4832843


Edit:
Now I see:
Replica seconds behind master 5,332

here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html

Which means the info on the site is 5,332 seconds old.

2700) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Constantly deferred, unable to start project seti (Message 1109794)
Posted 26 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Everything up and running sweet now!! I can remember running seti 10 years ago when i first went on the net....good to be back :-))


Then use this link:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php

(after that your Join date will not be 25 May 11 but the original date 10 years ago)

(the e-mail address of the Classic account does not need to be active)

2701) Message boards : Number crunching : Development BOINC 6.12.43 change log (Message 1109688)
Posted 25 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Then maybe 6.12.27 have to be removed from this page:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

Why? It has a disclaimer that it might be unstable.

1) I said "maybe"
2) In this case it's not just "it might be unstable" - it looks like "it is unstable" (= known big bug)!
(so "hide" this version in less known place http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/?C=M;O=A)

2702) Message boards : Number crunching : Development BOINC 6.12.43 change log (Message 1109685)
Posted 25 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Then maybe 6.12.27 have to be removed from this page:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

(Who is "hardcore" tester still can get it from:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/?C=M;O=A
)

2703) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Constantly deferred, unable to start project seti (Message 1109667)
Posted 25 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

1) Restart BOINC
(and congratulations you spelled "BOINC" correctly :) Many New members spell it funny way: bionic, bionc, bonic, ...)

2) Go to menu Advanced -> Event Log, copy the first 30-40 lines of messages and post them here.
(they can give many clues to what is or is not wrong)

(but "cannot download any project" have to be rephrased as "cannot download any task")


And look at the green on this graph:
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets

It is showing that for a period of 14 hours SETI downloads were disabled for everybody for some reason.
It is not only you, you just happen to choose a bad time to attach to SETI.

But now the green is raising up :)

2704) Questions and Answers : Windows : Problem Installing BOINC on Windows 7 Ultimate (Message 1109657)
Posted 25 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

What directories and options did you choose on this screen of the installer?:



(Data directory must be writable, the default is writable if you didn't change it)

Try to disable for a moment your Antivirus and Firewall to see what happens.

2705) Message boards : Number crunching : How to incorporate CUDA processing? (Message 1109275)
Posted 24 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Are the GPU wu's being unfairly capped on run time because they are (issued as) GPU? The straight CPU units I run on CPU complete in about 2 hours.

Why unfairly?
All the tasks have limit on run time - it is 10*estimate.

If the "fallback" tasks error out with "max elapsed time exceeded" after 4 hours
it means the normal run time on your GPU is ~0.4 hours (24 minutes).

The "straight" CPU units complete in about 2 hours but using optimized apps,
the CPU fallback in setiathome_6.10_windows_intelx86__cuda_fermi.exe
uses of course the standard CPU app.


Get BoincRescheduler:
http://www.efmer.eu/forum_tt/index.php?topic=428.0

It have option to avoid this problem - look in Expert tab for "... avoid -177 errors"

(! The downside is - if you don't check from time to time for stuck tasks (% don't move, big Elapsed time - and counts), to restart or abort them manually, they may "run" for weeks before be auto-aborted !)

2706) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Bandwidth question (Message 1109260)
Posted 24 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I must be using my GPU also , I told it to use it and the tasks are being completed MUCH more rapidly... I have Noticed a Large increase in speed of the tasks being done...
When I am using the computer Just for Seti@Home Tasks anyway...

No, you are not:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5953062

You are using the standard SETI@home applications (on your CPU only).

There is NO standard SETI@home application that can use ATI GPUs (only NVIDIA CUDA)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php


Your SETI@home Enhanced v6.03 tasks (v6.03 == CPU) are computed in ~17,000 seconds (4.7 hours)
Your Astropulse v505 v5.05 tasks are computed in ~100,000 seconds (27.7 hours)

(Both SETI@home Enhanced & Astropulse tasks are part of the SETI@home project (so both Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence signals)
but they contain different amount of data, are computed by different applications (.EXEs, programs, processes) and take different time)


(At this moment (when there is NO standard SETI@home application that can use ATI GPUs)
you have to become a very experienced user of BOINC & SETI@home and know how and where to modify and add files manually
to be able to use ATI GPU for SETI@home
)

2707) Questions and Answers : Windows : WU downloading so slow (Message 1109250)
Posted 24 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

When you see slow download check the green on this graph:
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets;ranges=d

If it's maxed (at ~90 Mbit/s) the problem is in the overload of outside Internet link of download servers which is 100 Mbit/s

2708) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Connecting old account (Message 1109212)
Posted 23 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Further letter exchange with David Anderson:

I send:
"
Now the first box in the page works:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_email_form.php

But all other boxes/buttons analyze and use only the info supplied in the first (top) box and give:
"Must supply an email address"

(I'm not sure you need to fix this as it is easier to use
"Claim your SETI@home Classic workunits":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php

which is the only one given here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic.php
(linked from Home page as: "Special instructions: For SETI@home Classic participants")

I don't even remember where did I get the link:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_email_form.php

Probably some guy in the forum posted it with complain "not working".
)
"

The reply from David Anderson:
"
You're right - that page is not linked to from anywhere.
I changed it to link to the newer page.
-- David
"

2709) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Connecting old account (Message 1109171)
Posted 23 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Not fixed for me! - I don't need those links as I don't have Classic account.

The complain "the pages (NOT links) do not work" was posted by many people in different threads in the last 6-8 months!

I only confirmed this by filling some fake info in the boxes and see the results.
(using many browsers, also on different computers and different Windows versions)

As numerous times was described - instead of:
"No SETI@home Classic account with email sjkcdkiulyu5t5et@gmail.com was found"
or
"Must supply an email address"
or
"Not a valid e-mail address."
or
"No Classic account exists with the e-mail address: wefewrkkrlegrlke@rfgerfger.ccc"

... you, I and everybody were "supplied" with Empty page/Server error!


What and when did you test?
(it is fixed since 1-2 days, what did you did on those pages to confirm they work (as you say) at least 3 days ago?)

2710) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Connecting old account (Message 1109153)
Posted 23 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I see both links just fine. You might consider clearing your cache or running cCleaner to get rid of old cookies.

No, I don't need to clear the browser cache nor to run CCleaner (which I use).

As I said: "I sent another letter":
"
The first link is now OK

But the second link still do not work (try to type anything in the boxes):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_email_form.php

(The problem is in the file sah_email_action.php)
"

... and only an hour later (and 11 minutes before your post) I received:
"
Fixed (I hope).
-- David
"

Both your attempts to check were after the fixes.
And the problem from the beginning was NOT to "see both links" but to use the pages.


Now the first box of the second link works:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_email_form.php

But all other boxes/buttons analyze and use only the info supplied in the first box.

2711) Questions and Answers : Windows : WU downloading so slow (Message 1109104)
Posted 23 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Yes, at a speed of 1 KB/s you will need >2 hours for 8 MB download (and much more to compute the Astropulse task).
If I (occasionally) look at the task downloads I see speed of 5-50 KB/s (on 12 Mbit/s DSL)

What speed do you see?

2712) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Connecting old account (Message 1109088)
Posted 23 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Following the advice from John McLeod VII I sent letter to David Anderson about "Problems in pages for SETI@home Classic participants"
(on 2011.05.22 08:02:06 EEST = On 21-May-2011 9:02 PM Berkeley time)

I received letter from David Anderson that the problems are fixed now.

(Dated: 2011.05.22 19:15:48 EEST)


The first link is now OK


But the second link still do not work (meaning that anything you type in the boxes leads to error):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_email_form.php

Anything you type in any box gives:
"Remote server or file not found" (the wording is from Opera 11)
(for http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_email_action.php?.....)

In Firefox 4 this gives blank/empty/no-source page.
In Internet Explorer 8 - "The website cannot display the page"
In SRWare Iron 11 - "Server error, HTTP Error 500 (Internal Server Error)"
In Google Chrome 7 - blank/empty page.


I sent another letter.

2713) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Bandwidth question (Message 1108742)
Posted 22 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
My QUESTION is --- "is there any way to put some type of bandwidth meter, that would tell me how much bandwidth I am using on BOINC per day or week ?"

In Computing preferences:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global

You can put limit:
Transfer at most --- Mbytes every --- days


The setting is presented also in local BOINC Manager - Advanced -> Preferences:
(! your local Preferences are in effect if you set Preferences both locally and on this site!)






Maybe someone might know of an average bandwidth use for just SETI@home ?

One SETI@home Enhanced task is ~360 KB
One Astropulse v505 task is 8 MB
You can count the total MB by yourself depending how many tasks you can finish per day.

Per my calculations your computer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5953062

... using only CPU's two cores can do about 10 SETI@home Enhanced tasks (total 3.5 MB)
or about 1.7 Astropulse v505 tasks per day.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5953062

So it will use for SETI@home project an average of ~3-13 MB/day = 100-400 MB/month for download.

(uploads are small files ~20-30 KB/task for both SETI@home Enhanced and Astropulse)

You can set e.g.:
Transfer at most 777 Mbytes every 30 days

... and I think this will be enough for your computer.

(! This max need will change if/when SETI@home can use your GPU "CAL ATI Radeon HD 4600 series (R730)" for computing !)

2714) Questions and Answers : Getting started : How to start? (Message 1108738)
Posted 22 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"This is well done?" - Yes, I see you in "Members of SETI@Barcelona":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/team_members.php?teamid=31815&offset=0&sort_by=expavg_credit


You have too many Restarts (556 (!) Restarts in one task).
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1908732470

Restarted at 0.31 percent.
....
Restarted at 10.68 percent.
....
Restarted at 57.89 percent.
Restarted at 57.89 percent.
Restarted at 57.89 percent.
....
Restarted at 58.34 percent.
Restarted at 58.34 percent.
Restarted at 58.45 percent.

(Total of 556 (!) Restarts)


Check your settings (both on the web and locally) and allow the computation to be done all the time:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global

Suspend work while computer is in use? no
Suspend work if no mouse/keyboard activity in last --- minutes
Suspend work when non-BOINC CPU usage is above --- %
(--- means 0 (zero) = no restriction)

2715) Questions and Answers : Windows : WU downloading so slow (Message 1108729)
Posted 22 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You don't need anything faster than 1 KB/s for task download (= 6 minutes/task).
The fastest of your "computing elements" (NVIDIA GeForce GT 240M) need minimum of 30 minutes to finish one task.

2716) Questions and Answers : Windows : Screensaver problems Win7 (Message 1108717)
Posted 22 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
have the same problem, except i get bsod, system restart, 5 minutes later, does it again. took me a while to figure out it was the BOINC screensaver causing this. switch to a different screensaver, problem solved. can't figure out how the BOINC screensaver keeps turning itself back on.

It may happen ("turning itself back on") only when you install new version of BOINC, there is option in the installer.
(don't only click next, next, next, ..., read the installer windows and check that the settings are OK per your wish).





2717) Questions and Answers : Windows : 来自中国的新手有问题要请教大家 (Message 1108590)
Posted 22 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
我也是刚刚注册的,开始时下载任务也是很慢很慢,动不了,后来弄了下工具里的网络选项,有个连接,再恢得默认联接就是本地连接,好你就开始慢慢有进度,你可以试一下,实在不行就是别的原因了!!
我也有个问题,一个任务在计算,没看到什么东西?计算完了,以后怎么办?有谁可以说一下???下一步要做什么呢?

Google Translate:
I also just registered to start the task when the download is very slow is slow, can not move, then get the next tool in the network options, there is a connection, and then restore the default connection is to have local connections, so you have to start slowly Progress, you can try, it is not is the other reason it! !
I also have a problem, a task in the calculation, did not see anything? Calculation is done, and later how to do? Who can say that about? ? ? What's Next?


It seems that people in China have Internet problems.
What means "download is very slow"?
What is the speed?
(normally SETI tasks download at 2-20 KB/s for me)

What's Next?:
Everything is automatic, wait a few days and you will see.

2718) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Connecting old account (Message 1108455)
Posted 21 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

But the link "Claim your SETI@home Classic workunits":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php

do not work for many months - meaning that anything you type in the box leads to blank/empty/no-source page, e.g.:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php?addr=yyyyyyzzzXXXX%40abv.bg

I'm not familiar with PHP but maybe there is no variable with name addr in sah_classic_link.php


In the last months I have posted several times about this malfunction in different threads but this "Claim ..." page still do not work.

Am I supposed to start a new thread in "Questions and Answers : Web site"?


P.S.
This page also do not work:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_email_form.php

Anything you type in any box gives:
"Remote server or file not found"
(for http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_email_action.php?.....)

2719) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Wish Astropulse in CUDA (Message 1108444)
Posted 21 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Lets say it's collaborate work but yes - nVidia did the initial programing.

I don't know what SETI@home team provided - just math principles or nVidia looked at CPU code and ported it for nVidia GPUs

P.S.
And I don't know why nVidia became NVIDIA ;)
Maybe to be noticed against the all-caps ATI/AMD

2720) Questions and Answers : Windows : 来自中国的新手有问题要请教大家 (Message 1108428)
Posted 21 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Copy and post the messages from menu Advanced - Event Log.


Google Translate (http://translate.google.com/):
复制并从菜单中的高级职位的消息- 事件日志。

- Google Translate Back (Ha ha):
Copy from the menu senior positions in the news - the event log.

- Babelfish Translate Back (yeehooooo ;) ) :
Duplication and from menu senior post news - event diary.



Babelfish Translate (http://babelfish.yahoo.com/):
拷贝和宣布从先进的菜单的消息-事件日志。

> Babelfish Translate Back :)) :
Copy and announcement from advanced menu news - event diary.

> Google Translate Back (eeeeelgooooog ;) ):
Copy and announced the news from the advanced menu - the event log.

2721) Message boards : Number crunching : AP when asked not to! (Message 1107777)
Posted 19 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The confusion comes from the options not behaving as marked. Yes or no should mean just that. "Other" should have no impact on a listed crunching option.

We (Dave, myself and maybe others) can only hope that someone will take the time and make the effort to try to correct this bug.

Stop calling this option a bug - this is NOT a bug, it works as it should.

I want:
SETI@home Enhanced: yes
Astropulse v5.05: no

but if server responds with "I don't have SETI@home Enhanced tasks"
still get some "other" work to fill my cache (and you know that Astropulse v5.05 is the only "other" work that SETI produces for now)
so I select "... accept work from other applications?" yes


You may want:
SETI@home Enhanced: yes
Astropulse v5.05: no

and never get anything different than SETI@home Enhanced
so you select "... accept work from other applications?" no


So where is the problem - I see this as just an useful option (and I'm not confused).


Maybe you have to read this:
"... accept work from other applications?"
as:
"... accept work from the other applications?"


(- Go buy me cigarettes, I prefer the ABCD brand, I don't like XYZ brand.
- OK, I'll buy you ABCD but what if they don't have them?

Possible answers:
1 (= "yes") - I need cigarettes, even if they don't have my favorite buy me any other brand, even those XYZ I dislike!
2 (= "no" ) - I'm not a strong smoker, if they don't have ABCD don't get me any other brand.
)

2722) Message boards : Number crunching : 6.12.26 version (Message 1107566)
Posted 19 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

For me "the right path to follow" is: give options to the users!

The problem is not with the new default look - The problem is that it is the only look.

The best option will be the ability to show/hide any tab (including Notices and Messages/Event Log).
New to BOINC will see/use Notices and old users probably will re-enable Messages tab.

Another good behavior will be if the installation detects it is an upgrade (so user is familiar with BOINC) and asks the user which tabs to show (Notices and/or Messages).

(and I know I can use the older BOINC Manager when/if I go to 6.12.x)

2723) Message boards : Number crunching : cuda23 never showed progress on BM (Message 1107548)
Posted 19 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do you overclock your GPUs?
Do you check temperatures?
Is the PSU power enough?

2724) Message boards : Number crunching : Looks like I got screwed and bad data put into the database (Message 1107512)
Posted 19 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Maksim Chernukhin is obviously (for me) a male name so he is "he" ;)

Probably Russian or English language will do if he ever bother to check private messages.

2725) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Problem with Geforce GTX 560 Ti and Cuda_fermi (Message 1107038)
Posted 17 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
thank for the answer but i solve my problem with GTX560TI doing this:

1) restoring my windows system partition using clonezilla USB version
2) uninstalling boinc
3) removing all my boinc files
4) reinstalling boinc official version wu ok
5) reinstalling lunatics fermi application (Lunatics_Win32v0.37_AP505r409_AKv8b_Cudax32f.exe)

wu calculations complet well now even by using rescheduler for VHAR VLAR wu (boinc_rescheduler_2_5.zip)

have a nice day

I think you overdid this - the only needed step is:

5) reinstalling lunatics fermi application (Lunatics_Win32v0.37_AP505r409_AKv8b_Cudax32f.exe)


(And maybe "Try dropping your drivers back down to 266.58" is good advice)

"have a nice day"? - I think you wanted to say "have a nice year" ;)
(Problem solved - bye till the next
(When they say SETI@home v7 will be "born"?)
)

2726) Message boards : Number crunching : News on Green Bank (Message 1106738)
Posted 16 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Speaking of making active links... Author of the article didn't link to S@H either... ;) grrr


Probably because this doesn't effect Seti@Home at all, our data comes from Arecibo. See question one here,


The question one here is about Allen Telescope Array
and this thread is about "News on Green Bank" Telescope ;)

From the article linked before:
"With ATA's dishes in hibernation for now, astronomers hope the powerful Green Bank Telescope ... will provide targeted information about potential life-supporting planets.
......
The project will likely take about a year to complete, and will be helped by a team of one million at-home astronomers, known as SETI@home users, who will help process the data on personal computers."

Mention of SETI@home but no link to SETI@home site.

Of course if a reader of the article decides to do a Google search for SETI@home
Google gives correct first result:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/


And here:
UC Berkeley SETI survey focuses on Kepler’s top Earth-like planets
http://newscenter.berkeley.edu/2011/05/13/uc-berkeley-seti-survey-focuses-on-kepler’s-top-earth-like-planets/

you'll see:
"The search began on Saturday, May 8, when the Robert C. Byrd Green Bank Telescope – the largest steerable radio telescope in the world – dedicated an hour to eight stars with possible planets. Once UC Berkeley astronomers acquire 24 hours of data on a total of 86 Earth-like planets, they’ll initiate a coarse analysis and then, in about two months, ask an estimated 1 million SETI@home users to conduct a more detailed analysis on their home computers."

Also:
SETI at the Green Bank Telescope
http://seti.ssl.berkeley.edu/seti_at_the_gbt

2727) Message boards : Number crunching : ATi AstroPulse rev521 beta testing (Message 1106735)
Posted 16 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Running 6 instances I've done 26 wu's now ...
For fun I tried 12 instances and it seems to work but after 45 minutes there was no progress shown so I broke off the experiment.
Hey! If you never try...

According to this info:

OpenCL Platform Name: AMD Accelerated Parallel Processing
Number of devices: 1
Max compute units: 24
Max work group size: 256
Max clock frequency: 880Mhz
Max memory allocation: 268435456
Cache type: None
Cache line size: 0
Cache size: 0
Global memory size: 1073741824
Constant buffer size: 65536
Max number of constant args: 8
Local memory type: Scratchpad
Local memory size: 32768
Queue properties:
Out-of-Order: No
Name: Cayman
Vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Driver version: CAL 1.4.1353
Version: OpenCL 1.1 AMD-APP-SDK-v2.4-rc1 (595.9)


... only 4 tasks can fit in 1 GB video ram.

How you are able to run 6 instances?
(If the card have in reality 2 GB RAM you can fit max 7-8 instances)

2728) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Cuda task phoning microsoft? (Message 1106731)
Posted 16 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you look at somebody's crashed task:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1910183433

You will see:
Symbol Search Path: C:\ProgramData\BOINC\slots\19;C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu;srv*C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edusymbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;srv*C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edusymbols*http://boinc.berkeley.edu/symstore


The same line edited by me for easy reading:

Symbol Search Path:
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\slots\19;
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu;
srv*C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;
srv*C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\symbols*http://boinc.berkeley.edu/symstore


(I don't know why "\" was omitted in "berkeley.edu\symbols" and why the list do not include:
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\symbols;
)

2729) Message boards : Number crunching : cuda23 never showed progress on BM (Message 1106730)
Posted 16 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I would think that any project using a GPU for co-processing should implement some type of timeout for "no progress".

There is "timeout" for any task (not only GPU) - it is 10 times the initial estimated time.

E.g. if the initial estimated time to completion is 1 hour - after the task runs for 10 hours the task will be aborted (even if it is at 99%).

2730) Message boards : Number crunching : Can't report or get new tasks (Message 1106728)
Posted 16 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I`ve even tried resetting the project. All that did was cause me to lose a regular WU that was 65% completed.

Of course it will do so.
If you hover the mouse over the button it says exactly that.

2731) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Cuda task phoning microsoft? (Message 1106709)
Posted 16 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You can look in "symbols" folder in your BOINC Data folder (my contains 58 .pdb files = 60 MB).

You will find numerous .pdb files which are some kind of database connecting numerical addresses in the executable to original names (as are in source) of functions
so the crash report can be more informative.

(Instead of "crash at address 123ABC" will say "crash in function Oh_No_Not_Again" ;)
http://www.lucidinterval.org/here_we_go_again.shtml
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker's_Guide_to_the_Galaxy#Chapter_18
)

Since BOINC is compiled using Microsoft C/C++ it uses Microsoft libraries
and need to get this debug info from Microsoft.
Read "About the Microsoft Symbol Server" down at page:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg462988


"Why can't that information be in the program already?":
Probably to save HDD space (accompanying .pdb is often bigger than the .exe).

"Each x86 symbol package may require 750 MB or more of hard disk space.":
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg463028

"Use the Microsoft Symbol Server to obtain debug symbol files":
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/311503/


If you see .pdb files in the installation directory of some program it already have this debug info "in the program" as you say.

2732) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : More than one WU per GPU at the same time ? (Message 1106704)
Posted 16 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
but exactly how close is "close enough?"

Can't tell "exactly" but maybe 10% difference is OK


ok thanks. what i'm doing at this point is suspending all MB tasks except for specific groups of MB tasks that have similar names (thus increasing the probability that they came from the same data set and have similar angle ranges). then i'm taking those specific groups of tasks and running some of them one at a time, some of them 2 at a time, and some of them 3 at a time. so far the grouping of tasks with similar names has resulted in identical (or at least very similar) angle ranges, the greatest variation between any two observed angle ranges so far being %0.06 - well below the error margin of 10%.

i believe that with this methodology i'm starting to see differences in run times between single tasks, 2 simultaneous tasks, and 3 simultaneous tasks. a bit more testing and it should start becoming clear as to what kind of improvements in efficiency i'm seeing by crunching more than one task simultaneously.

Very good methodology! :)

2733) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Cuda task phoning microsoft? (Message 1106373)
Posted 15 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I'm pretty sure that setiathome_6.09_windows_intelx86_cuda23.exe
will not try to connect to Internet at all.

Only boinc.exe does the communication.
It (boinc.exe) will connect only to berkeley.edu servers (if your only project is SETI@home)
and google.com (to check Internet works OK)

Maybe only if some .exe crashes report is sent to Microsoft (only if you enable this)?


Edit:
The following shows that debug info ("symbols") is get from Microsoft - not send:

I found the following strings in the (used by me) optimized (Lunatics) SETI@home app:

AK_v8b_win_SSE3_AMD.exe

http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/symstore
http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols

The first link is part of a sentence:
"If you'd like to contribute to the project,
please visit the SETI@home web site at
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu."

The last links ("symbols") are obviously used in case of crash report.


Strings from boinc.exe (I searched for "http://"):

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/project_list.php
http://www.google.com/
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php?xml=1
Visit http://boinc.berkeley.edu for instructions
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/symstore
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/symstore
http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
http://crl.thawte.com/ThawtePremiumServerCA.crl
http://ocsp.verisign.com
http://crl.verisign.com/tss-ca.crl
http://ocsp.verisign.com
http://crl.verisign.com/ThawteTimestampingCA.crl
http://crl.thawte.com/ThawteCodeSigningCA.crl
http://ocsp.thawte.com
http://boinc.berkeley.edu

2734) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : More than one WU per GPU at the same time ? (Message 1106372)
Posted 15 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
but exactly how close is "close enough?"

Can't tell "exactly" but maybe 10% difference is OK

2735) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : More than one WU per GPU at the same time ? (Message 1105991)
Posted 14 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do you check the <true_angle_range> of the running tasks?
Compare only the times for tasks which have close "enough" true_angle_ranges.

To check the angle ranges of the running tasks:
Go to slots directory and look in stderr.txt files for
"WU true angle range is : ..."


Or check the Completed and reported tasks:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5800349&offset=0&show_names=1&state=2&appid=

Click in the left column to see the task's Stderr output:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1908493734

and find/search (Ctrl-F or F3) for "range" to find:
"WU true angle range is : 0.432713"

(I see it also reported as "ar=0.432713" by the "OpenCL version by Raistmer, rev177"
so you can search for "ar=" to find it.
)

2736) Message boards : Number crunching : Lets talk about RAM and crunching (Message 1105906)
Posted 14 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
"Space... is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mindbogglingly big it is..."

I can only agree, MindBlowing, but what has it to do with the amount of memory and the way, it can or will be used?

What it has to do? :)

Just that:
When I look at your line:
"Well 2^64 is too much, you'll be surprised how many TBytes that is."

... the first thing that comes to my mind is that quote from
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

(Do you know this book?
If not - "you'll be surprised how" MindBlowingly good/fun it is :)
)

2737) Message boards : Number crunching : Old vs New cpu's (Message 1105756)
Posted 13 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

:)
Don't you think this thread becomes "A Gathering of Old Men"
to chat about "Good Ol' Days"?

;)


We all are getting older even you. Some are older than you and some are younger than you. I remember when calculators were all the rage some could be programed like a computer in the early 70,s before there were personal computers everybody had fancy calculators. Even before the calculators there was the slide rule which I used. Then in the early 60,s they had mechanical adding machines and before that abacus.

Maybe I was not clear enough -
"A Gathering of Old Men" includes me :) (born 1960) and my posts about old hardware in this thread.

I remember the Texas Instruments programmable calculators (using some sort of magnetic tape/cards/sticks).


Born 1952 here. Your borderline old:)My first calculator was a texas intsrument. just four functions. cost $40.00 back in 1975 or 76. cant remember, Im old you know.


And I remember the first Bulgarian electronic calculators (~1970) size of a typewriter
and cost of a Russian car (~$4000) that can do only + - * /
(no home user had this type of calculator, only factories/government offices)

2738) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My Wife's Computer...Hacked!!! (Message 1105753)
Posted 13 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I routinely reformat my C drive all the time to get rid of all the clutter and other unforeseen things.

I never ever needed to reformat any hard disk or reinstall Windows,
- till now I was always lucky to find a way to fix any trouble (e.g. broken boot/registry files) "by hand" :)
without loosing all the data and settings/tweaks to many installed programs.

But who knows - today is Friday 13 ;)

2739) Message boards : Number crunching : Old vs New cpu's (Message 1105750)
Posted 13 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

:)
Don't you think this thread becomes "A Gathering of Old Men"
to chat about "Good Ol' Days"?

;)


We all are getting older even you. Some are older than you and some are younger than you. I remember when calculators were all the rage some could be programed like a computer in the early 70,s before there were personal computers everybody had fancy calculators. Even before the calculators there was the slide rule which I used. Then in the early 60,s they had mechanical adding machines and before that abacus.

Maybe I was not clear enough -
"A Gathering of Old Men" includes me :) (born 1960) and my posts about old hardware in this thread.

I remember the Texas Instruments programmable calculators (using some sort of magnetic tape/cards/sticks).

2740) Message boards : Number crunching : Looks like I got screwed and bad data put into the database (Message 1105706)
Posted 13 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do you know where I can read about the exact math of the current quota rules used by SETI@home?

2741) Message boards : Number crunching : Looks like I got screwed and bad data put into the database (Message 1105688)
Posted 13 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The most recent full show of the list was done by Joe Segur in January (message 1064377) - I had a local copy of that to hand when I checked this morning.

According to research by Miep (she had to rush off before she had time to post it here), Minotaur's host 5243998 was running a 8800GTX in February, before having the GTX 570 fitted in March. So making a once-and-for-all blacklist isn't going to solve the problem - even without any new copies of V12 going into circulation, hardware upgrades (without giving thought to software, one presumes) can re-create the problem. We need to think of a solution for that, too.


http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1907495721
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1907887536

If the (scheduling?) server have time to parse the Stderr output it will see:
"SETI@home using CUDA accelerated device GeForce GTX 470"
... and:
"V12 modification by Raistmer"

In this case the quota may be set to 1 task/day every time GPU returns Stderr output with such combination of strings.

( Find "SETI@home using CUDA accelerated device "
Then ("GeForce GTX 4??" | "GeForce GTX 5??") & "V12 modification by Raistmer"

? Or is it more effective to search for
"V12 modification", then go backwards a few chars/bytes and find
("GeForce GTX 4??" | "GeForce GTX 5??")

? Or just search for lines beginning with "V12"
and only if found then make further parsing (of the above/previous line)
)

If the owner even notices the GPU is out of work he will come here to ask "Why?".

2742) Message boards : Number crunching : Looks like I got screwed and bad data put into the database (Message 1105684)
Posted 13 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do people in the lab have this list?
Do they intend to make some black-list to block the GPU work for these hosts?

Or do they don't care and just rely on the small probability that two bad GPU results will validate each other?

This continues for many months and have to be STOPped!


"Ceterum autem censeo, Carthaginem esse delendam"
(English: "Furthermore, I think Carthage must be destroyed")
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthago_delenda_est

2743) Message boards : Number crunching : Lets talk about RAM and crunching (Message 1105587)
Posted 13 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Well 2^64 is too much, you'll be surprised how many TBytes that is.

:)

"Space... is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mindbogglingly big it is..."

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker's_Guide_to_the_Galaxy

Yesterday (11 May 2011) was 10 years after his death in 2001
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Adams


And 12 days left until Towel Day!
http://towelday.org/

Be prepared - On Towel Day, carry a towel!

:)
2744) Message boards : Number crunching : Inconsistant stats production (SETI) (Message 1105564)
Posted 12 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Why is the 'new' credit system still erratic
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62499&nowrap=true

2745) Message boards : Number crunching : Old vs New cpu's (Message 1105557)
Posted 12 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

:)
Don't you think this thread becomes "A Gathering of Old Men"
to chat about "Good Ol' Days"?

;)

2746) Message boards : Number crunching : Lets talk about RAM and crunching (Message 1105303)
Posted 11 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Every SETI@home or Astropulse task uses only 25-30 MB RAM as you can see in Windows Task Manager
so for AMD Phenom II X6 you can count by yourself:
6 * 30 = 180 MB + some "BOINC use" = ~200 MB total

2747) Message boards : Number crunching : Old vs New cpu's (Message 1105259)
Posted 11 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I simply forgot - my first home computer was with IIRC Siemens 8086 (or 8088 ?) 4.77 MHz CPU, 640 KB RAM, HDD 20 MB, 5" floppy, DOS 3.30
(but I leaved this computer in another town and it was probably thrown in junk)
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/8086/MANUF-Siemens.html





It was Bulgarian made ;)
(very bad and unstable - many capacitors "saved" in factory,
very bad monitor - "Black and White" (Green phosphor) flicker all the time - cold soldering)

The brand-name was Pravetz-16

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pravetz_computers
http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?st=1&c=615
http://www.pravetz.info/en/pravetz-16.html





" Pravets (Bulgarian: Правец, also transliterated as Pravetz or Pravec) is a town in central western Bulgaria, located approximately 60 km from the capital Sofia.
Bulgarians associate the town with its (now closed) computer manufacturing plant and with the birthplace of Bulgaria's last communist dictator, Todor Zhivkov."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pravetz


(Earlier I worked on (not mine but at university) Apple II+ using 1 MHz 8-bit 6502 CPU (BASIC, 6502 Assembler), and on Mainframes (Bulgarian made) similar to IBM 360 (Fortran compiler))

2748) Message boards : Number crunching : Old vs New cpu's (Message 1105165)
Posted 11 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
My trusty old Pentium 100 completed a w/u in 1,983,296.00 seconds (cpu time) for its massive 138.55 credits.
The other machine which also did this w/u had a cpu time of 52.95 seconds - a tad faster.

Obviously this 52.95 seconds CPU time task is done on GPU (and real "Run time"/"Elapsed" was ~1000-2000 seconds, very small part to prepare the data to be send to GPU is using the CPU)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1882574000

The fastest CPUs today using optimized apps can do SETI tasks in ~4000-5000 CPU-seconds:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1882840467


Anyway ..... shame I cannot get boinc to run on my window 1 machine with its Cyrix FasMath co-processor.

You are kidding about that ;)
Despite the Cyrix FasMath was faster than Intel 387 @ 33-40 MHz it will be unable to finish SETI task in time to meet the deadline.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrix




My first home computer in ~1994 was with Cyrix 486DLC @ 33 MHz ( ;) overclocked to 40 MHz) + 4 MB RAM ( ;) upgraded to 8 MB for AutoCAD 12 for DOS)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/486DLC




I still keep the motherboard + CPU + IIT 3C87-40 FPU hanged on the wall to remind me of "good old days" ;)
http://www.cpu-collection.de/?l0=co&l1=IIT&l2=FPU#3C87-40



2749) Message boards : Number crunching : Multi core greater than 80 core (Message 1105152)
Posted 11 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Changed my config file back to <ncpus>80</ncpus> and restarted BOINC. Now seeing all 80 tasks running in both BOINC Mangler and Task Mangler. Overall CPU usage has jumped up to ~ 75%. Now how to use up that final 25%...?


It is supposed to use all the available CPU time.

1) In Windows Task Manager - do you see every of the 80 SETI tasks using 1.25% CPU (1.25 * 80 = 100%)?
Are there other processes using much CPU?

2) In BOINC Manager -> Tasks tab - are all the 80 SETI tasks show "Running" (or e.g. "Waiting for memory", "Waiting to run", etc...)?
Is the percentage counting up in the "Progress" column for all the 80 SETI tasks?


Restart BOINC and post the first 40-50 lines from the Messages tab
(Click, Shift-Click, use [Copy selected messages] button at the left)

These messages will help us see many settings which are in fact in use (some set by you, some defaults) - will save our and your time asking for every setting.

2750) Message boards : Number crunching : Multi core greater than 80 core (Message 1105150)
Posted 11 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I wasn't aware BOINC needed to be restarted to accept config file changes. I guess I hoped it was dynamic after a config file read...which one would be led to believe...otherwise why read the config file :)


http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration
http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Cc_config.xml
http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?language=1&view=91

I copied the "Warning" from the last link to the first two links (so hopefully no more "I wasn't aware" will happen):
Warning: Any changes in the <log_flags> section will be used immediately after re-read of the config file. Yet a lot of changes in the <options> section will need a complete exit and restart of the BOINC client. They will not take if you just re-read the config file.

(I think the info in "BOINC FAQ Service" is free to use)

2751) Questions and Answers : Windows : Combine Accounts (Message 1104711)
Posted 9 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You can't combine 2 or more BOINC accounts, you have to choose one of them.

Do you know the email address of the old account?
Is this email address still active?

2752) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC (Message 1104548)
Posted 9 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It happens as soon as the download is installed

First you claim - the problem is during download ("I'VE TRIED THREE TIMES TO DOWNLOAD BOINC AND EACH TIME MY COMPUTER GOES ALL .....")

Now you say "as soon as is installed".

Are you absolutely positive it is not only after:
1) starting BOINC
2) attaching to SETI
3) SETI downloads tasks
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5936716
4) SETI task started <- and AFTER that problem begins?


the screen gets all blurry, and thte colors seem to kind of run together.

Get a camera, make a photo, post it: http://ploader.net/


And it isn't overheating!!

HOW do you know?

And why you "HAD TO DUMP your HARD DRIVE"? - this may be connected/correlated to your current problems.
Your Error tasks show the problem existed all the April.

Other possible reasons for unstable computer:
- bad, old, dried, bulged, leaking capacitors
- bad PSU - voltages unstable/low
- bad RAM
- too much overclock
- lightning strike nearby and some chip/part is semi-burned (works but with errors)
- bad/dirty/corroded/oxidated contacts in PCI slots or Power Supply cables/plugs


Can you start any "heavy" program?

Try some 3D game (or at least some 3D screensaver).
Or e.g. WinRAR - Benchmark.

OpenGL tests/demos from this utility:
GPU Caps Viewer
http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/


Temperature Monitoring Programs
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62044

2753) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC (Message 1104542)
Posted 9 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
no need to make fun of the new guy.

He is not new, he is here longer than I am.

And how anybody can think that downloading anything can do such a mess: "COMPUTER GOES ALL FUZZY, COLORS RUN TOGETHER AND EVERYTHING IS A BLUR"??!

I HAD IT BEFORE AND EVERYTHING WORKED GOOD

Error tasks for computer 4047025
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=4047025&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=

Q: "I can only assume you uninstalled and deleted all your boinc files."
A: "I HAD TO DUMP MY HARD DRIVE AND LOST EVERYTHING."

2754) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC (Message 1104536)
Posted 8 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It is a boinc problem, because I downloaded weatherbug abd installed that with no problem.

;) Sounds plausible :)))
- last night I started BOINC and while watching what it does (naaaaasty ;) things) I didn't like at all the taste of my dinner
but in the morning I exited BOINC and (to my surprise ;) ) very much enjoyed the taste of the banana I eat. :)

Thanks, I didn't know that the installing of WeatherBug is the "Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Answer_to_the_Ultimate_Question_of_Life,_the_Universe,_and_Everything

(
But wait! NOW I remember - it was very rainy when I downloaded BOINC for the last time (a mere 10 months ago)!
And now I don't download BOINC and the day was very sunny - aaah, what a difference :)

The miracles of BOINC download never end!
Skies open, Earth tremble, Sun bows before this mighty thing!
)

2755) Questions and Answers : Preferences : particular download order to avoid wu deadline ??? (Message 1104402)
Posted 8 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I think TOM is connected all the time but to very slow Internet connection (comparative to the speed the computer processes tasks).

I think in this case it is better to put all the days to the first number ("Connect every 10 days").

This will ensure:
1) You will not receive tasks with deadline of less than 10 days away (so even if tasks stay in download state for days they will not miss the deadline)
2) BOINC will try to get tasks for 10 days WU cache
3) BOINC will try to finish the tasks 10 days before the deadline (using "High priority" mode when needed) (so you will have 10 days for upload and report over the very slow Internet connection)


I fail to understand you reasoning on this one. OK, he might want to put part of it into "Connect every X", but not all of it.

You both don't say why you think it is bad to put all the WU cache days to the first number ("Connect every X days").
What problems do you expect?

If it is "High priority" mode from time to time this is even desired in this situation (fast computer on slow Internet).

"Maintain enough work for an additional X days" did not exist in first BOINC versions and "Connect every" was routinely used for bigger WU cache.


Again: what are the disadvantages you see in using 10+0 days WU cache instead of 0+10 or 5+5?
(Advantages are in "This will ensure: 1) and 3)" quoted above)


But - maybe lower total WU cache (e.g. 5+0 days) will ease the things
as fewer tasks will be in download queue (not 4000 as it is now).

2756) Message boards : Number crunching : stuck on high priority (Message 1104391)
Posted 8 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
@BilBg: I want a high switch time period because I want to force BOINC to finish what it starts before switching to another task.

Yes, but no task will run for 7 days, you can lower that value to 1440 minutes (= 1 day).

These setting work well on my other hosts

Combined with what "Connect every" & "Additional days"?

running BOINC 6.10.20

I don't see such older version on your hosts:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=18847

(I think you again "abbreviated" something ;) - make Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V your friends)

I'll check again, reboot, and hope for the best.

Reboot will not change anything - this behavior is caused by settings which will remain the same across the reboot.

2757) Message boards : Number crunching : stuck on high priority (Message 1104368)
Posted 8 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Interesting; I'll check your suggestions out some more later. But I did look at two hosts with the same 9999m setting. One (6.10.60) is HP and the other (6.10.58) is not. Both are downloading happily when needed.

The one in HP mode has just cleared its cache. So I watched and the first wu's downloaded (into an empty queue) began in HP mode. It merely looks like boinc got stuck in this mode (through reboots and restarts) and won't budge. So I still think boinc is buggy.

Why do you need such a big setting?:
"Switch between applications every 9999 minutes" (= ~7 days)

(there is no task on SETI@home or Einstein@Home that will run for so long on your machines)

Change this to e.g. 600 (= 10 hours) or 1440 minutes (= 1 day) and very probably the "High priority" mode will disappear.

2758) Message boards : Number crunching : nVIDIA driver 266.58 (Message 1104124)
Posted 7 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I don't want to OC and so on.. they are manufacturer OCed. ;-)

At the system tray icon of nVIDIA is a menu (mouse click), there I can change the resolution, refresh rate, color depth and so on.
With 190.38 there was also a point with 'performance', there I could choose IIRC 'high performance', 'normal' and 'quality' (or something similar).
With 266.58 this point is missing.

BTW., influence this settings the CUDA performance?


Influence this settings the CUDA performance?
- No, they are to choose/balance the 3D look and speed of 3D games.

(e.g. "high performance" meaning no FSAA, no anisotropic filtering for faster gaming (big FPS) and less visual quality)

2759) Questions and Answers : Web site : Does not display name?? (Message 1104114)
Posted 7 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Ask the Founder Skadan
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=8772699

to change the Team name and description using Latin letters.

As I use Cyrillic very often (on .bg and .ru sites) I expect to see it correct but I see the same garbage (strange encoding).

2760) Questions and Answers : Preferences : particular download order to avoid wu deadline ??? (Message 1104074)
Posted 7 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I think TOM is connected all the time but to very slow Internet connection (comparative to the speed the computer processes tasks).

I think in this case it is better to put all the days to the first number ("Connect every 10 days").

This will ensure:
1) You will not receive tasks with deadline of less than 10 days away (so even if tasks stay in download state for days they will not miss the deadline)
2) BOINC will try to get tasks for 10 days WU cache
3) BOINC will try to finish the tasks 10 days before the deadline (using "High priority" mode when needed) (so you will have 10 days for upload and report over the very slow Internet connection)

2761) Questions and Answers : Windows : Boinc installation on windows 2008 R2 X64 (Message 1104055)
Posted 7 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Domain Controller?
BOINC 6.x.x doesn't work (can't install) on Domain Controllers.

Use 5.10.45 instead:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/?C=M;O=A

Direct link (64 bit):
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_5.10.45_windows_x86_64.exe

Install it to C:\BOINC


More info:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=63759&nowrap=true#1096522

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Release_Notes#BOINC_6_incompatible_with_Domain_Controllers

2762) Message boards : Number crunching : Multi core greater than 80 core (Message 1104015)
Posted 7 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The example for Boinc shows that even for the "single function call", that was still unexpected enough to have needed quite a few days to discover and fix.

Again, if u consider this a problem, quit programming, really. Such systems are rare enough to worry about on wide basis. If your application is targeted for such systems, you would be well aware what to except, or, u can learn it in 10 minutes, like I did from MSDN. Or, u will learn it in hard way, like BOINC did.

Maybe the problem BOINC faced is that when the first BOINC was made (~2005 ?)
the description of the GetSystemInfo Function given by Microsoft maybe was:
GetSystemInfo returns "The number of logical processors in the system"

and now (when bigger systems exist and they invented "processor groups") Microsoft changed the description to:
GetSystemInfo returns "The number of logical processors in the current group"

If you have Microsoft compiler from 2005 (or older) can you check in its help files what is the description of the GetSystemInfo Function?

2763) Message boards : Number crunching : PC is not keeping right time (Message 1103804)
Posted 6 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
a nice little program to check out is DSclock
http://www.dualitysoft.com/dsclock/

And you call 2500 KB a "little"? ;)


This is little - only 7 KB:

Neutron
http://keir.net/neutron.html




2764) Message boards : Number crunching : Multi core greater than 80 core (Message 1103776)
Posted 6 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Directions so far have only been to create this file, put in in the appropriate folder and add the following to it:

<options>
<ncpus>n</ncpus>
</options>

If you had looked at the link already given to you by Claggy "(Info on configuring Boinc is on the Client configuration page of the Boinc Wiki)":
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration

... you would know that the correct format of the cc_config.xml file is:
<cc_config>
   <log_flags>
       [ ... ]
   </log_flags>
   <options>
       [ ... ]
   </options>
</cc_config>


How does Todd Hebert have 64 processors on this system showing?
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5480331

Edit: Hmm, just checked my account again and it now shows for my 40 core machine 60 processors...man, this is some goofy stuff...

Read this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=63416&nowrap=true#1085425

Since the current BOINC version uses GetSystemInfo() function BOINC can see up to 64 logical processors (that is what Windows reports thru GetSystemInfo()).
(if >64 CPUs you have to tell/force BOINC to use all of them by <ncpus>n</ncpus>)

You may have "40 core machine" but it is obviously with Hyper-Threading enabled
so you have 80 logical processors (use <ncpus>80</ncpus>) recognized by Windows (you can see this in Windows Task Manager).

This "goofy stuff" is created by Microsoft - they decided to divide CPUs in groups of up to 64 CPUs
- if you have exactly 64 logical CPUs (or less) they will be in one group #0 and will all be seen by BOINC (using GetSystemInfo()) (the Todd Hebert's case - he has exactly 64 logical CPUs)
- if you have e.g. 80 logical CPUs they will be in two groups #0 #1 and current BOINC will see just one of the groups (using GetSystemInfo()) - the group it is in.

How Windows decides the "cut" point to divide the 80 logical CPUs in two groups I don't know but it seems in your case it divides 60+20.

So Windows puts BOINC in one of the CPU groups and BOINC sees sometimes 60, sometimes 20 CPUs.

Using <ncpus>80</ncpus> you tell BOINC: no matter what you see I want you to act as if there are 80 CPUs.

(You can use <ncpus>80</ncpus> even on one-core old CPU and BOINC will start 80 SETI tasks if there is enough RAM (but there is no advantage in doing so))

2765) Questions and Answers : Getting started : How to get Credits? (Message 1103307)
Posted 4 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

No one will answer by email, here is the place for answers so anybody can see it (and learn from or correct the answer if it is wrong).

I seem to always have 70+ "Completed, waiting for validation" seti@home projects.

Some people have 1000+ "Completed, waiting for validation" - this is normal, nothing to worry about.

Anybody's tasks have to be checked against the same computation done on another computer (computers may make errors and it happens all the time, e.g. overheating, bad overclock, bad software)
(Consider this: if somebody calculates your payment for given work wouldn't you calculate the same to check for error?)


Some SETI@home tasks (Not projects) validate in seconds (if your "wingman"'s computer already returned "good" result and your result is similar ("equal"))
and for other tasks may pass months if the WorkUnit have bad luck (if your wingmate's computer crash the task and return error the same task will be send to #3, #4, etc. wingmates)

If you continuously send good results they may (temporarily) add to your "pool" of "Completed, waiting for validation"
but about the same number of your older "waiting" tasks will validate around that time (it take 1-3 months of steady task "crunching" to reach this "equilibrium" condition)


Reading threads, it seems I have a "wingman" supposedly also assigned to the same projects but the slug isn't performing, so I'm being penalized.

You are not "penalized" - if your results are good you will get your credits, just not immediately
(as is for all of us - we get credit when our results are confirmed by another person's computer (for example I may wait for your result)).


How to fix this quickly?

As you see - you can't "fix this quickly (?!)", nobody can - the wait for confirmation is by design.

(I like Formula 1 races but this here is not a race - it is more like of long chain/queue of cargo trucks
- when the first cargo arrives a month after it was sent there are already 100s of trucks on their way over the 1000s km long road)

2766) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Help with old account (Message 1103233)
Posted 4 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Unfortunately this link do not work as it should for at least a few months:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php

Try this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/get_passwd.php

Enter every of yours valid (still working) email addresses - if there is account using this email address you will receive letter with link to enter the account.


Your old (24 May 1999) account is this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=182806

Do you still own the Hard Disk from this computer?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=1018784

(It is possible for you to find on it the file account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml (search the entire disk)
in which file you will find the <authenticator> as described in "Forgot your account info?" link above, 2) ...

You need the <authenticator> from your old computer (which is "the key" to the old (1999) account).

Your current computer will have a new <authenticator> which will just enter your current account.
(but since you still do not have any computer attached to your new/current SETI@home account there is no account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml file on the computer you are using now (you don't need this "new" file even if it existed))

If you have the habit to copy/backup all the data from the old HDD to the new HDD (when upgrading computers) you may find this old file even on your newer hard disks.

NEVER post (reveal) your <authenticator> or password - some bad guy can steal your account!
)

2767) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Suspending computation triggers GTX560 ti "failsafe mode"? (Message 1102612)
Posted 2 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


http://blog.orbmu2k.de/tools/nvidia-inspector-tool

Google Translate:
http://translate.google.bg/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.orbmu2k.de%2Ftools%2Fnvidia-inspector-tool

The text states that this behavior is by design (to avoid flicker):
"
Save energy when using multiple monitors

Since NVIDIA GDDR5 graphics card is used as a video store, there is a limitation on the power management features. If more than a single display with different resolutions / timings are connected to the graphics card, the driver prevents downshift automatically in that energy-saving "Performance States (P-States).

The reason is, according to NVIDIA in a hardware limitation in the use of GDDR5 memory, which can cause change of P-states to flicker. This issue is therefore not limited to NVIDIA graphics cards.

Unfortunately, the driver the user does not choose the flicker to be accepted instead to save power. This fact has turned to a new feature "Multi Display Power Saver".
"

2768) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Instability problem GPU and Boinc (Message 1102556)
Posted 1 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Can i exclude the Graphics GPU from seti projects, and if so how please?

Yes, there's a setting in BOINC manager to never use the GPU (I believe :-) and you can disable using the GPU on a per-project level (in the SETI@home preferences for instance).

Unfortunately there is no such setting in BOINC Manager 6.10.58 (only "Don't use GPU while active").

Disabling GPU from SETI@home preferences will disable in the future receiving new SETI@home tasks for GPU,
but the GPU tasks already in the computer have to be Aborted (if that is the wish of Andrew - to not do any GPU computing).

@Andrew
You can use cc_config.xml:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration
http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Cc_config.xml
http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?language=1&view=91

<no_gpus>0|1</no_gpus>
If 1, don't use GPUs even if they're present. (+ New in BOINC 6.6+)

<cc_config>
   <options>
      <no_gpus>1</no_gpus>
   </options>
</cc_config>


P.S.
Maybe the PSU of Dell computers is too weak for full load of CPU+GPU?
Do you have problems when running some very heavy 3D game?

2769) Questions and Answers : Preferences : particular download order to avoid wu deadline ??? (Message 1102543)
Posted 1 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Let's see whats gona happen, there are 50 packets left closed to the deadline out of 4000 in the wu download queue. Are there any messages when Boinc goes to EDF Mode ?

You try to feed an Elephant using a (64 kbit/s) teaspoon ;)

Can't you get faster Internet?

I think you use WU cache of ~7 days.
Set the WU cache as 7+0 ("Connect every 7 days", "Additional 0 days"),
not 0+7

2770) Questions and Answers : Web site : DVD drive activation (Message 1102527)
Posted 1 May 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Why does the BOINC Manager every once in a while activate my DVD drive for a few seconds?

"every once in a while" - how often? (every few minutes, once a day?)

If you exit BOINC is there any difference?
Do you use default directories for BOINC (during installation)?

Is there any difference if a CD/DVD disk is inside or not?

(One of my older (computer) DVD drives activates by itself (no disk inside) - it thinks I press open/close button (most probably the internal sensor (button)).
Also my home DVD player (connected only to TV - not the computer) randomly ("once in a while") closes the tray just after eject
so I wait a few seconds before changing (removing, inserting) the disk.

All DVD drives/players have internal sensor (button) which activates the tray motor to "swallow" the disk if you push on the (opened) tray.
If this sensor is bad the drive may become active (even if it is now with closed tray)
as the drive thinks that you just closed the tray (and spins to check is there disk inside).
)

2771) Message boards : Number crunching : ap units? (Message 1101339)
Posted 28 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thanks I will try that.

;) "Do, or do not. There is no try." - Yoda

Yes, Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.37 will fix this - just select the apps as in Claggy's post
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9

2772) Message boards : Number crunching : ap units? (Message 1101153)
Posted 27 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have checked the box for requesting ap units on one of my computers, but I get a message that it does not accept them. ...

Copy and post the exact messages (which shows the reason why "it does not accept them").

And which is the computer (ID: 4464872 or ID: 3708447)?

2773) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lost Seti classic screen saver again (Message 1101014)
Posted 27 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
i do have my screen saver set to Boinc. Maybe that's the problem?


Define "the problem".

If you expect to somehow "revive" the real SETI classic screen saver
to show the work done on the current tasks this can't be done.

2774) Questions and Answers : Web site : Problems with the website database? (Message 1100641)
Posted 25 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I found that if I search for something on Google using
[..... site:setiathome.berkeley.edu]

(to search only on SETI@home site) and then click on the found links
my preferences are changed to the way (post order) the found page is displayed.

2775) Questions and Answers : Windows : Astropulse task seem to be stuck (Message 1100544)
Posted 25 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Try to disable (for a few minutes) the antivirus and firewall
and exit any process consuming too much CPU (e.g. browser + flash game or video play)
then (re)start BOINC and start the Astropulse task.

Do you see any difference?

2776) Questions and Answers : Windows : Astropulse task seem to be stuck (Message 1099294)
Posted 21 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I don't like what these 2 lines say:
Virtual memory size: 2.45 MB
Working set size: 528.00 KB

Usually the values are 20-30 MB for both.
I don't know what caused so little memory to be used nor how to correct it.

Are they always in this range (0.5 - 3 MB) or only at the first few seconds after task resumes?


Go to the ....\BOINC\slots directory and find the stderr.txt file for this task.
Post the contents of stderr.txt (if it is too long - omit the repeated info)

2777) Message boards : Number crunching : radeon 5770. Please help me get it running (Message 1099089)
Posted 20 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

It seems the original poster (NewtonianRefractor) installed successfully the ATI apps:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5900668&offset=0&show_names=1&state=0&appid=

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=5900668

... except he uses the older version for AstroPulse:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1877814441

"Windows x86 rev 456"


The links Again:
ATI OpenCL AstroPulse (rev516)
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/12-gpu-crunching/ati-opencl-astropulse-rev516.0.html

Direct link to the .rar
ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r516.rar


P.S.
I don't know how to find which of the r177 apps he uses:
MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_r177.exe
or
MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_HD5_r177.exe

Completed task shows: "SSE3x Win32 Build 177" "OpenCL version by Raistmer, rev177"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1877807928


The modified for HD5xxx app_info.xml (part) is here (again):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=63617&nowrap=true#1097406

(of course anybody can do this modification - I changed just the name of the .exe in the app_info.xml)

2778) Questions and Answers : Windows : Astropulse task seem to be stuck (Message 1099087)
Posted 20 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Suspend all other (MilkyWay@home & Einstein@Home) projects
(Projects tab - select and press [Suspend])

Then look in Messages tab - are there any errors/warnings shown around the Astropulse task Restarting message?

Maybe the Astropulse task waits for memory?
What is/will be shown in the "Status" column on Tasks tab for the Astropulse task?

P.S.
;) As this task is sent on 1 Apr 2011 it may be first April's joke ;)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5856086

2779) Questions and Answers : Windows : GPU Missing - was working - no new drivers (Message 1099072)
Posted 20 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Here you go. My message log does not look much like your example. Perhaps there is something I can change to increase verbosity?


My "example" is from stderr.txt - not BOINC. Click the link above the "example".

What is the version of NVIDIA driver?

Does GPU-Z properly detect and show the 4 (or 3?) GPUs?:
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

(GPU-Z shows the Driver Version)
(At the bottom of GPU-Z window you can change which GPU is shown)


If you can - post the screenshots (.png) from GPU-Z
e.g. using this site:
http://ploader.net/

(Use the last link #3, mark the line (link) while posting, press [Img] button (above) - this will surround the link with [img]..../XXXX.png[/img] tags)


You can also save the screenshots as .gif using the "Photo" button in the GPU-Z interface (top-right)
which will look like this:





2780) Message boards : Number crunching : radeon 5770. Please help me get it running (Message 1098922)
Posted 19 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You can download them all from the lunatics download page.


Except that the ATI GPU AstroPulse is the older version at the "download page":
ATI GPU AstroPulse for OpenCL r456

2781) Message boards : Number crunching : radeon 5770. Please help me get it running (Message 1098917)
Posted 19 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Read:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=63783&nowrap=true#1098088

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=63617&nowrap=true#1097406

(If the first clicks on the above links do not lead you to my post - click the link again)


You have to first attach the computer to SETI


If you don't want the CPU part:

a) You can delete everything in the "Lunatics' Unified Installer"-created app_info.xml leaving only:
<app_info>

</app_info>
before you add the ATI parts

b) Or disable the CPU usage from the web SETI@home preferences:
Use CPU - NO
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project


The ATI app files (e.g. MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_r177.exe , MultiBeam_Kernels.cl , ...)
have to be in the same folder where the app_info.xml is:
.....\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\

2782) Questions and Answers : Windows : time increased exponentially? (Message 1098897)
Posted 19 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I don't say it is bad to run "100% of the processors" on the i7 CPUs
I think your problem is somewhere else.

(Read again my previous post - I made some edits/additions)

Correction:
Did you by chance Disabled the CPU L3 Cache (in the BIOS)?

Is this the correct description of your CPU?:
Intel® Core™ i7-840QM Processor (8M Cache, 1.86 GHz)
http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=43125


To find more info of how your CPU operates you can use:

SIV 'System Information Viewer' (get siv.zip, extract files to an empty folder, run SIV64X.exe)
http://www.rh-software.com/

CPU-Z
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

2783) Questions and Answers : Windows : time increased exponentially? (Message 1098894)
Posted 19 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Since the CPU time is about doubled ...
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5635269&offset=0&show_names=1&state=2&appid=

... I guess you (or your friend/hardware guru) enabled Hyper-Threading (in the BIOS)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper-threading

Do you see 8 tasks running simultaneously?


CPU time also depends on the task itself (WU true angle range).

The "Run time" you look at is no indication of how fast your CPU computes.
"Run time" is the Wall-clock time elapsed while computing the task,
"Run time" depends on how heavy you use the computer, e.g. game, videos, etc.


To be honest - even 53,000 seconds CPU time looks too much to me (for your Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU Q 840 @ 1.87GHz)
(but I'm not Intel/i7/standard app expert ;) )

My P4 3.0 GHz needs ~17000 sec (but with Optimized app)
(using 1 of the 2 Hyper-Threaded "CPUs" - "On multiprocessors, use at most 50% of the processors (set locally) - works better (more production per day) for me on this P4 CPU)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5732288&offset=0&show_names=1&state=2&appid=


P.S.
Despite it is not reliable indication BOINC Measured on this i7 CPU Q 840 @ 1.87GHz:
Measured floating point speed 660.15 million ops/sec
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5635269

At what frequency (GHz) this CPU really works? (there are many utilities to show this)
Did you by chance Disabled the CPU L2 Cache (in the BIOS)?


Even my 11 year old K6-2+ @ 524 MHz shows:
Measured floating point speed 507.17 million ops/sec
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=3412467

(but it needs ~600 000 sec (7 days) for a VLAR task)

2784) Questions and Answers : Windows : Seti@home Windows 7 64Bit crashing (Message 1098840)
Posted 18 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... there appeared to be a communication breakdown with Seti@home ...


In your first post you say: "communication error pop up window"

It usually say: "Can't communicate with localhost" which means:
"boincmgr.exe and boinc.exe can't communicate with each other in-the-computer"

This have nothing to do with communicating with any server.
So all the following posts discuss the issue of what you reported: "communication error pop up window"

I think the simple reboot cleared it.
Why we didn't say first: "Try a reboot"?
Because you say: "I have tried everything." - and reboot is one of the first things people try.

Communication error to the servers is shown in Messages tab - not in pop-up window.


P.S.
;) This is my post #911

ALF - second episode of the first season:
"Operator, this is an emergency...what's the number for 911?!" - Raquel Ochmonek

http://www.alftv.com/quotes.php
http://alf.wikia.com/wiki/Strangers_in_the_Night

2785) Questions and Answers : Windows : seti@home 3D graphics (Message 1098835)
Posted 18 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Is it possible to to download and plug-in different graphics for the seti boinc software?

OR... are they planning to make the graphics clearer and easier to read in a future revision?

I see this topic discussed in a few long threads many years ago, I was just hoping that something had changed since them.


It seems no one is interested or have time to write different graphics for SETI

But can you make it clear ;) - what means "clearer and easier to read graphics"?

It is fully readable to me (last used the graphics years ago - screenshot 16.09.2009):
http://ploader.net/files/e21c08333c81fa7ec789c5dc0b52c344.png

(look at the picture without any zoom-in or zoom-out, i.e. at native resolution)

2786) Questions and Answers : Windows : GPU Missing - was working - no new drivers (Message 1098832)
Posted 18 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Post the first 40-50 lines from the Messages tab after restart of BOINC, may give us some clue.

(Copy buttons are at the left)


On 5 Apr 2011 SETI app recognized 3 of your GPUs (not 4)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1858645038
setiathome_CUDA: Found 3 CUDA device(s):
   Device 1 : GeForce 9800 GT 
           totalGlobalMem = 536543232 
           sharedMemPerBlock = 16384 
           regsPerBlock = 8192 
           warpSize = 32 
           memPitch = 2147483647 
           maxThreadsPerBlock = 512 
           clockRate = 1728000 
           totalConstMem = 65536 
           major = 1 
           minor = 1 
           textureAlignment = 256 
           deviceOverlap = 1 
           multiProcessorCount = 14 
   Device 2 : GeForce 8400 GS 
           totalGlobalMem = 536674304 
           sharedMemPerBlock = 16384 
           regsPerBlock = 8192 
           warpSize = 32 
           memPitch = 2147483647 
           maxThreadsPerBlock = 512 
           clockRate = 1400000 
           totalConstMem = 65536 
           major = 1 
           minor = 1 
           textureAlignment = 256 
           deviceOverlap = 0 
           multiProcessorCount = 1 
   Device 3 : GeForce 8400 GS 
           totalGlobalMem = 536674304 
           sharedMemPerBlock = 16384 
           regsPerBlock = 8192 
           warpSize = 32 
           memPitch = 2147483647 
           maxThreadsPerBlock = 512 
           clockRate = 1400000 
           totalConstMem = 65536 
           major = 1 
           minor = 1 
           textureAlignment = 256 
           deviceOverlap = 0 
           multiProcessorCount = 1 

2787) Questions and Answers : Windows : Seti@home Windows 7 64Bit crashing (Message 1098681)
Posted 18 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Even if I made the computers visible, you would not see that computer as I uninstalled BOINC since it wasn't working.


We can NOT see your real computers - we can see only a few details from the last contact with the server.
Also we can't see all the info you see (e.g. we can't see your IP address)

Look at my computers:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=8647488

(and I see you already made your computers visible)

I think you talk about this computer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5880500

It shows Valid tasks so it is working OK:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5880500&offset=0&show_names=0&state=3&appid=

And it never made Invalid or Error tasks:
("Consecutive valid tasks" == "Number of tasks completed")
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=5880500


Only boinc.exe running is needed for the work to be done.
- boincmgr.exe is used only for you to see and control what boinc.exe is doing.

Do you still have problems with the (internal, in-the-computer) communication
between boincmgr.exe and boinc.exe ?

2788) Message boards : Number crunching : Radeon 6900's (Message 1098462)
Posted 17 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Wrong name, Wrong place, Wrong contents.

It's not ap_info.xml - is app_info.xml
Not in c:/programfiles(x86)/Boinc - in C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\
(here go also the app files, e.g. MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_r177.exe , MultiBeam_Kernels.cl , ...)

No <app_info> ........ </app_info> tags

And obviously you want desperately to loose all your CPU tasks?


! First: install the "Lunatics' Unified Installer"!


!!! P.S.
But this message shows you already have some (unknown to you) app_info.xml
4/17/2011 12:10:42 PM SETI@home Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform

As I said earlier - "Lunatics' Unified Installer" creates app_info.xml
- add the parts for ATI just before the last tag </app_info> in this Lunatics-created app_info.xml

2789) Message boards : Number crunching : number crunching humor (Message 1098383)
Posted 17 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

But don't you know - every processor is quad - it has 4 sides, just look at it from the top :)

;)

2790) Message boards : Number crunching : stuck on high priority (Message 1098376)
Posted 17 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Your CPU tasks are computed in 3-5 hours.

What estimates do you see for the unstarted tasks?
What is the "Duration correction factor" for SETI@home?
(BOINC Manager -> Projects tab -> select SETI@home -> press [Properties] - Look at the bottom)


Computer 5828858 is the only with BOINC version 6.10.60:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5828858

From the bottom of page copy this info:
% of time BOINC is running 97.0718 %
While BOINC running, % of time host has an Internet connection 99.994 %
While BOINC running, % of time work is allowed 99.3354 %
Task duration correction factor 1.225475


( I think it has only SETI@home and not Einstein@Home tasks (?) as it is not listed here:
http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=102722
)


@SciManStev -
PhonAcq has no (recognized) GPUs on any of his Computers:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=18847

2791) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Multiple PCs (Message 1098365)
Posted 17 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It seems to be like the answer here is to set up two different preference venues in your online preferences (which means you'd have to stop using your local preferences by clearing them).


Since "Use NVIDIA GPU" preference is only on web "SETI@home preferences"
there is NO need to clear the local (in BOINC Manager) preferences.


SETI@home preferences:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

Set "Use NVIDIA GPU" to NO (un-mark the check-box) in the venue (home, school, work) where you will put the "Computer 5896112"
(e.g. click "Add separate preferences for school")


Your computers:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php

("Location" column shows the "venue")

Go to the "Details" of "ID: 5896112"
and at the bottom of page choose the "Location" (e.g. "school") and [Update]

("Location" == "venue")

2792) Questions and Answers : Windows : Not getting seti units anymore (Message 1098131)
Posted 16 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

For test:
Try to select all other projects and click [Suspend] on every one of them.
Then select SETI and click [Update]

What is in the Status column of all the projects?

2793) Questions and Answers : Windows : TThrottle program uninstalled but still starts up ?? (Message 1098123)
Posted 16 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Yes - if you type MsConfig in "Run..." window it starts
but not if you type MsConfig in "CMD" window.

I searched the whole partition where the Win XP Pro SP3 is (took <20 sec, using Total Commander) and found it only in these strange places:

D:\WINDOWS\pchealth\helpctr\binaries\msconfig.exe
D:\WINDOWS\ServicePackFiles\i386\msconfig.exe

I started MsConfig from "Run" and using Process Explorer's "target" icon found the active process is:
D:\WINDOWS\pchealth\helpctr\binaries\msconfig.exe


P.S.
The computer is multi-boot (4 Win) so I searched the other partitions (while running Win XP Pro):

Win 98
C:\WIND98SE\SYSTEM\MSCONFIG.EXE

Vista 32
E:\Windows\System32\msconfig.exe
E:\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-msconfig-exe_31bf3856ad364e35_6.0.6000.16386_none_d8437c87a0d4ffbd\msconfig.exe

Vista 64
F:\Windows\System32\msconfig.exe
F:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_microsoft-windows-msconfig-exe_31bf3856ad364e35_6.0.6000.16386_none_3462180b593270f3\msconfig.exe


On another computer with Win 98 & Win 2000 SP4:
- Win 98 have MsConfig but Win 2000 haven't (so I can use "only" the even better Autoruns on Win 2000)

2794) Questions and Answers : Web site : My old account (Message 1098101)
Posted 16 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Now I must have mispelt the updated email address ...

Never type - use Copy/Paste

And (AFAIK) CasE MaTTers, e.g. these are considered different:
BOSS@XYZ.COM
Boss@xyz.com
boss@xyz.com

If you don't know what string you used for the e-mail the account can't be recovered.

But some of your numerous browsers may have the login details.

2795) Message boards : Number crunching : Radeon 6900's (Message 1098088)
Posted 16 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The speed of the Optimized CPU Applications is 150-200% faster than stock.

And it's easier to first install the "Lunatics' Unified Installer":
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9

and then modify the created app_info.xml by adding the parts for ATI (just before the last tag </app_info>).

(!!! If you just make app_info.xml with only ATI apps all of your CPU tasks will be deleted and you will not receive more! (CPU will stay idle)
So use the "Lunatics' Unified Installer" first.

Check regularly if a new versions of "Lunatics' Unified Installer" and ATI apps are released.
(when you have app_info.xml apps are NOT auto-updated)
)

ATI OpenCL MultiBeam app (rev177)
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/12-gpu-crunching/ati-opencl-multibeam-application-released-rev177.msg35371.html;topicseen#msg35371
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;sa=dlview;id=272

ATI OpenCL AstroPulse (rev516)
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/12-gpu-crunching/ati-opencl-astropulse-rev516.0.html
ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r516.rar

2796) Message boards : Number crunching : What GPU's setup to buy ? (Message 1097461)
Posted 15 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Не е чак пък $300 - под $200 е:

http://www.mostbg.com/most/PriceList.aspx

PALIT GTX460 1G SONIC - 191.00 USD
http://www.mostbg.com/most/Item.aspx?itemid=42593

2797) Questions and Answers : Getting started : How to get Credits? (Message 1097427)
Posted 15 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
[edit]Since you have already created an account, make sure to register as "returning user" when attaching to SETI@home, lest you create a second account.[/edit]


It is "Yes, existing user" in BOINC 6.10.58

2798) Message boards : Number crunching : Please Tell Me BOINC Isn't Stupid (Message 1097425)
Posted 15 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
As to the "Computer is connected to the Internet about every" setting, IMO it ought to say "Computer can connect to its projects about every" instead.
That's the assumption wherever the value is used.
                                                                Joe


"Computer can connect to its projects about every"
- "can" may be interpreted as if BOINC is forbidden to connect more often than that, which - as you know - is not the case.

What about:
"Computer/BOINC may be disconnected from its projects for up to XX days"
"Computer/BOINC may be disconnected from Internet for up to XX days"

2799) Message boards : Number crunching : hd 6970 seti (Message 1097406)
Posted 15 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Almost always a good place to put new parts in app_info.xml
is just before the last tag </app_info>

.....
.....
</app_version>

(*** Put the new part here ***)

</app_info>



(You can use empty lines freely to visually divide the sections for easy reading (by you))

Nothing to delete in your current app_info.xml

For HD5xxx & HD6xxx add just before the last tag </app_info>:

<app>
	<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
	<file_info>
		<name>MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_HD5_r177.exe</name>
			<executable/>
	</file_info>
	<file_info>
		<name>MultiBeam_Kernels.cl</name>
			<executable/>
	</file_info>

<app_version>
	<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
	<version_num>610</version_num>
	<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
	<avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
	<max_ncpus>0.05</max_ncpus>
	<plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
        <cmdline>-period_iterations_num 2 -instances_per_device 1</cmdline>	
        <flops>20987654321</flops>
	<file_ref>
		<file_name>MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_HD5_r177.exe</file_name>
		<main_program/>
	</file_ref>
    <file_ref>
        <file_name>MultiBeam_Kernels.cl</file_name>
        <copy_file/>
    </file_ref>
   <coproc>
   <type>ATI</type>
   <count>1</count>
   </coproc>
</app_version>



Check that you have these 2 files in ....\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\
MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_HD5_r177.exe
MultiBeam_Kernels.cl

2800) Questions and Answers : Windows : TThrottle program uninstalled but still starts up ?? (Message 1097168)
Posted 14 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Usual utility to use for disable/enable auto-starting of any program (not matter is it uninstalled or not) is MsConfig:
Type MsConfig in "Run..." window (press [Win]+[R] ([Win] is the key between [Ctrl] and [Alt]))

You can also use:

Autoruns
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902

CCleaner
http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download


P.S.
But TThrottle is a good program, I like the graphic of changing temperature over time.
Why do you want it uninstalled/disabled?

2801) Message boards : Number crunching : Please Tell Me BOINC Isn't Stupid (Message 1096972)
Posted 13 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Should you be setting that your computer won't be connected to the Internet but every 5 days if it's connected all the time?

Yes


The correct answer would be "no". You should not be setting "Connect to..." to anything more than 1 if you are permanently connected to the internet.

Why?


Because the setting is designed for dial-up users, and I do not advocate using it for extra cache, lest you miss deadlines if something unexpected were to happen.

Not matter for me what it was/is designed for.
(Computer was designed for computation (hence the name) but people now use it mainly for other things (internally of course it still computes).
In the beginning computer was designed for use mainly in military and science computations.
)

Matters what it does. Do you say it will mess something? (I don't mind if tasks run in "High Priority" sometimes, mainly after I play game (so DCF goes up))
Contrary of you - I advocate for it to be used if somebody wants BOINC to compute/report days before the deadline.

(For me matters what user/I want from a program - not what program wants from me.
And I don't blame program/BOINC if it obeys my instructions ("Format disk C:", "Yes, I confirm" ...... Ooooh, what YOU did stupid program! ;) ).
)

2802) Message boards : Number crunching : Please Tell Me BOINC Isn't Stupid (Message 1096954)
Posted 13 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
My cache is set to 5 days... ... misses were 2 hours 5 minutes and 1 hour 42 minutes

You already know what to do (if you read the previous posts):

Your cache (obviously) is set to 5 days this way: 0+5 (0 = your ".2 day connect interval")
Set the same cache this way: 1+4 or 2+3 ... 5+0

e.g. 4+1 will give you 4 days reserve time - BOINC will finish and report 4 days before the deadline.

2803) Message boards : Number crunching : Please Tell Me BOINC Isn't Stupid (Message 1096891)
Posted 13 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I mean if you setup a 5 day cache but only let your computer crunch an hour a day you will end up missing a bunch of deadlines.

Not true - if you ALWAYS "let your computer crunch an hour a day" BOINC will NOT miss any deadlines, it will just get less tasks (24 times less tasks).

The setting means "5 calendar days" - NOT "5 computing days".

2804) Message boards : Number crunching : Please Tell Me BOINC Isn't Stupid (Message 1096889)
Posted 13 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Should you be setting that your computer won't be connected to the Internet but every 5 days if it's connected all the time?

Yes


The correct answer would be "no". You should not be setting "Connect to..." to anything more than 1 if you are permanently connected to the internet.

Why?

2805) Message boards : Number crunching : Please Tell Me BOINC Isn't Stupid (Message 1096887)
Posted 13 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It phones home 4 times a day to request work/ask for work etc. to keep a 10 cache running plus an additional 10 days.

Yes, mine too. So where is the problem somebody see?
Nothing wrong happens if you/I set "Computer is connected to the Internet about every 10 days"

2806) Message boards : Number crunching : Please Tell Me BOINC Isn't Stupid (Message 1096878)
Posted 13 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Should you be setting that your computer won't be connected to the Internet but every 5 days if it's connected all the time?

Yes

2807) Message boards : Number crunching : Please Tell Me BOINC Isn't Stupid (Message 1096875)
Posted 13 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Mine is set to connect every .25 days with a 10+10 cache.

Now that is impossible - .25 days & 10+10 cache contradict!

If your machine isn't getting things done on time ...

Where did you get such impression?
My machines return work 20-30 days before the deadline (10+10 cache).

(If you have 10+10 cache then you do what I propose - "connect every 10 days" makes your BOINC finish the task and report it 10 days before the deadline)

2808) Message boards : Number crunching : Please Tell Me BOINC Isn't Stupid (Message 1096871)
Posted 13 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Try it. Randomly take your machine offline for a week or even two weeks, then put it back online again. Watch how gracefully BOINC is able to recover.

No need to try - I know it. BOINC learns and adapts.
But no-one can adapt to unexpected. If you have earthquakes every day - you adapt, if no earthquake for 100 years - it is unexpected event end nobody is prepared.

If BOINC knows from the past "experience" that the computer is ON all the time and Internet works all the time
and you have tasks with deadline tomorrow if you "take your machine offline for a week or even two weeks" BOINC will miss the deadlines.
And some may even have 100s of tasks completed but not reported when the "unexpected" happens.

I don't like if my computers' work go to waste, you may be different.

Sure, it is an incorrectly set configuration if the computer connects to the Internet more often than every 5 days.

Why incorrectly??
BOINC connects whenever it likes but is prepared for the unknown bad future (of 5 days ;) ).

2809) Message boards : Number crunching : Call for testers - low-end 4xxx and 5xxx ATi GPUs (Message 1096828)
Posted 13 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Suggestion:
supply the app_info.xml part in the package (.rar, .zip, .7z) (in plain .txt file)
and short instructions (ReadMe_OpenCL.txt) where to put it (e.g. before the closing </app_info> tag in their existing app_info.xml)
+ some links (URL) you find useful for the user to read
so people will not need to search the app_info.xml part on the forums.

2810) Message boards : Number crunching : Please Tell Me BOINC Isn't Stupid (Message 1096817)
Posted 13 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
In every one of your situations, BOINC has recovery mechanisms and metrics in place (DCF, Time powered on vs. time allowed to crunch, amount of time internet service is available).
BOINC will see that time has passed since you last powered on (in the event of a power-down; in pieces all over a table, or powered down because you left town), and will adjust itself accordingly.

Only if these unexpected things happened regularly in the past,
but in this case they are not unexpected ;)

If people really want to micromanage BOINC because they think they can do it better, fine.

Setting "Computer is connected to the Internet about every 5 days"
and "Maintain enough work for an additional 0 days"
(instead of 0+5) is not micromanaging - it is just config.

2811) Message boards : Number crunching : Please Tell Me BOINC Isn't Stupid (Message 1096800)
Posted 13 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I don't see what's wrong with just letting it run? I've yet to have anything turned in late shy of hardware failure or user error. So maybe I'm missing something here but what exactly does it matter? Although I agree it seems most reasonable for FIFO on my machine it may not make much sense on others under certain circumstances though.


It matters in situations when unexpected things happen:
- You make hardware changes and computer stays in peaces on the table several days
- Your ISP is unreliable and you may be sometimes without Internet
- Urgently you have to go out of town and don't want to leave the computer ON
- SETI/project servers fail and do not work for a week
- ...

If you use "Computer is connected to the Internet about every 0 days" you/BOINC may miss some deadlines.

2812) Message boards : Number crunching : Please Tell Me BOINC Isn't Stupid (Message 1096496)
Posted 12 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Good news - the 5AM AP is now running (but not as "High Priority") and should finish easily before 5AM (EDT).


Actually, both of the 4/11 APs finished in time. So (as usual) I was wrong. But I still think that BOINC overthinks things, and should just process FIFO, at least in cases like mine, where I process 24/7, so there is no uncertainty about processing-time-available-to-due-date/time.

Want to make BOINC finish and report days before the deadline? - "regroup" your cache!

For example 10 day cache can be done in many ways, e.g. 0+10, 2+8, 5+5, 7+3, 10+0 ...

0+10 BOINC may sometimes finish and report 0 days before the deadline

10+0 BOINC will try to finish and report 10 days before the deadline

2813) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Not working.... why is it so? (Message 1096468)
Posted 12 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Try to update your BOINC version. You are using 6.8.23

The current Recommended version is 6.10.60 (the 6.12.22 is still in "beta" status)
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

(Get the same "brand" - 32 or 64 bit - as you run now)

Just Exit BOINC and install the new BOINC over the previous version.

2814) Questions and Answers : Windows : Temperature Monitoring Programs (#2) (Message 1095756)
Posted 10 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


CPU stress/heavy load/test CPU at high Temperature using:

IntelBurnTest 2.50
http://www.ultimate-filez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9
http://ultimate-filez.com/?page=downloads

! Direct link:
http://www.ultimate-filez.com/files/IntelBurnTest.zip

http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Benchmarks/IntelBurnTest.shtml
http://majorgeeks.com/IntelBurnTest_d5987.html
http://www.techspot.com/downloads/4965-intelburntest.html


Despite the name it works for both Intel & AMD CPUs





It claims to load the CPU harder and generate more heat than any other program.
It uses Intel's Linpack library (fixed to work on AMD also) (both linpack32.exe & linpack64.exe are in the package).


"IntelBurnTest - Tool that helps test for system stability in a relatively short time (greatly shorter than Prime95).
The program utilizes Intel's very own CPU stress testing binaries for the most stressful, and speedy testing.
This software will put even the highest end rigs to their knees, and shows how REALLY stable the system is."

"Benefits of using Linpack:
1. More accurate than Prime95 Small FFTs/Blend (under x64 OS).
2. Takes less time to tell if your CPU/RAM is unstable than Prime95 (usually
something like 8 minutes Linpack vs 40 hours under Prime95).
3. Use the same stress-testing engine that Intel uses to test their products
before they are packed and put on shelves for sale."


"Keep in mind, use this program at your own risk.
By using this program, you agree that neither I nor Intel shall be responsible for including, but not limited to:
burned up CPU, fried motherboard, spontaneous room temperature increase, hair loss, or mental stress."

"Caution: Not for beginning overclockers.
This program WILL stress the CPU, Memory, North Bridge, and other system components to their highest extent!
Make sure your PC is properly cooled and ventilated!
Author: AgentGOD"



The following test is from my AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3500+ @ 2368 MHz
(2.37GHz x11 - FSB 215MHz) 1.30 V in BIOS (1.30 - 1.34 measured)
(the test was using 650 MB RAM for 21 minutes)





2815) Message boards : Number crunching : Measured floating point speed question (Message 1095586)
Posted 10 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

And what if somebody fired (or suspecting to be fired tomorrow and angry to the company)
find it useful to "quickly send a command to delete all the information off the hard drive(s) of your company over the Internet"?

2816) Message boards : Number crunching : Measured floating point speed question (Message 1095524)
Posted 10 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Am I the only one who's concerned about these Enhancements? Maybe I am getting old... lol Not that there's much one can do about them, but still I have to say I really don't like the direction they're heading.

No, you are not the only one

You talk about these "Enhancements":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=63711&nowrap=true#1094543

The processors include a "service" called Intel Insider, which the company claims is "an extra layer of content protection", and despite claims, is a form of Digital rights management (a technology that inhibits uses of digital content not desired or intended by the content provider).

In addition, Sandy Bridge processors have security features that include the ability to remotely disable a PC or erase information from hard drives.
The commands (to remotely disable a PC and/or erase information from hard drives) can be received through 3G signals, Ethernet, or Internet connections.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge#Other_details

Bad, Worse, Worst!

These "features" are similar to the "Serial Number" Intel "invented" (in Pentium III) "for the benefit of users" (???).
"Serial Number" was very bad received by users community and was banned (removed) in later CPU models.

Who (film industry?) pushed Intel do add "features" which may lead to home costumers to refuse to buy Intel and go to AMD (which is good unless lead to AMD raise the prices ;) ).
And some countries (or even the European Union (EU)) may ban the use of these "Sandy Bridge" CPUs on their territory/government if the "features" are found to be dangerous.

Intel may end with bigger losses then when forced to replace millions of the first Pentium CPUs because of "Pentium FDIV bug":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_FDIV_bug

"Eyes Wide Shut" of Intel just invite hackers and virus writers "Come guys, we let you have some nice play with peoples computers all over the world"!

2817) Message boards : Number crunching : Extremely long GPU units (Message 1095502)
Posted 9 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Reboot? Game? Screensaver?

What did you do around/before:
9 Apr 2011 | 21:55:20 UTC
9 Apr 2011 | 23:01:50 UTC
(convert to your local time)

2818) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange BSoD message (Message 1095489)
Posted 9 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Wow, very fast response! :)

Suggestion: add this info also to Expert tab
e.g. to the right of [Set to default] button

e.g. (if CPU supports reporting of TjMax):
"The default TjMax is XX°C
as read from CPU register (MSR)"

or (if CPU do Not report TjMax):
"The default TjMax is XX°C
as found in TThrottle tables"

2819) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange BSoD message (Message 1095158)
Posted 9 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
At 67°C on the LCD ...

That is almost the maximum CPU case/cover temp (if LCD shows this)
- don't go so high (on LCD)

( To check what LCD shows use SIV - System Information Viewer (.zip - no install needed)
http://www.rh-software.com/

As you see on my screenshot SIV shows both: individual-cores-temps and CPU case temp.
Try this (free) program - it gives very comprehensive info about everything in the computer.
On my one-core CPU it uses ~20-30 sec. CPU time per day.
(I use it with "-Tray" command-line switch = always running; I put shortcut to it in Startup folder)
Size of the .zip is 3.5 MB
)


But if TjMax of this CPU is really 101°C you can go to even 80-85°C of the CPU cores temperature (not on LCD) and the CPU will work.

The values which are for sure true/real in RealTemp window
are "Distance to TJ Max" - they do not depend on do (or do not) the program (RealTemp) know what the TjMax of this CPU really is.
("Distance to TJ Max" is the raw value which all programs read from CPU registers)

Keep "Distance to TJ Max" over 15-20 and you are good (bigger the Distance the better).

2820) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange BSoD message (Message 1095089)
Posted 9 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I just installed real temp, and it reported the Tjunction at 101C. I set TThrottle and the core temps line up with Real temp. I am getting core temps from 45C to 55C, and the LCD display is reading 51C. Unless I can find a core spec, I'll leave the back throttle at 70C, and the shutdown at 75C. The last time I did this, things got way out of whack as my core temp rose. Tomorrow, when I have more time, I will experiment and raise my core temp, and make sure it back throttles as it did with the Tjunction set at 80C.

Steve


Now you are better - you set TThrottle to start acting when the CPU is 31°C (101-70) from the max (not matter what exactly is this "max")
- the Intel CPU just says to TThrottle:
a) "I am 46°C from the max" - TThrottle does nothing to tame the apps
b) "I am 30°C from the max" - TThrottle starts to throttle the apps

(Intel CPU never say "My temp is XX°C", it always say "I am YY°C from the max"

From the RealTemp site:
"Each core on these processors has a digital thermal sensor (DTS) that reports temperature data relative to TJMax which is the safe maximum operating core temperature for the CPU."

From the CoreTemp site:
"A different MSR contains the temperature data. The data is represented as a Delta in °C between current temperature and Tjunction.
So the actual temperature is calculated like this 'Core Temp = Tjunction - Delta'"
)


If you need change - change the 70°C "Set Core" up/down, not the TjMax


Edit:
For correct display of temps it will be good to double-check
with CoreTemp the TjMax (in case RealTemp makes just guess and do not read it from the CPU (MSR))
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/

(There are also .zip versions (32 & 64 bit) of CoreTemp - no install needed (the installer contains both 32 & 64 bit versions))

2821) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange BSoD message (Message 1095052)
Posted 9 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Strangely enough on my AMD64 the internal core temp was/is shown always 1-3 degrees lower than the external CPU case temp!?
(a few years ago I contacted the Everest people (at forum) to ask is it possible that AMD uses some Peltier inside the CPU cover (so cover is hotter than the inside).
They said - No, it is just inaccuracy of the sensors)








2822) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange BSoD message (Message 1095021)
Posted 9 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"In the later generation of processors, starting with Nehalem, the exact Tjunction Max value is available for software to read in an MSR (short for Model Specific Register)."

CoreTemp and RealTemp read this Tjunction Max value from the CPU itself (use their value).
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292


As Fred say (about TThrottle not still using this new feature):
A) MSR containing Tjunction Max (one constant value for the given CPU)

No, but I will try to implement it in one of the new releases.


P.S.
@Fred - maybe you should implement direct setting of Delta/offset to TjMax
e.g. "Keep CPU temperature 20°C under the Max allowed"
- this will be foolproof (for Intel CPUs) as this is the exact value you read from the CPU core.

2823) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange BSoD message (Message 1095011)
Posted 9 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Did you read my first post on the subject?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=63650&nowrap=true#1094579

and the link in it ("How does it work?")?:
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/howitworks.html

If you don't believe me wait for (or PM) Fred to confirm:
the same result with when TThrottle will act to protect the CPU (namely 10°C near the Tjunction Max)
will be with: TjMax=180 and "Set Core" 170°C
- there is no difference in when protection action of TThrottle starts (it will be at the same real core temp)

Only the reading will be (very) wrong (e.g. TThrottle will just show e.g. 160°C and will not act)

Your desire so LCD and programs that read CPU-cores temps to show the same value
is similar as if you want (during winter) your 2 thermometers - on balcony outside and in the room near stove
to show the same value (will you call this "comfortable" tweak ;) )


Log from TThrottle on AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+ (on Intel may be different!):


09 April 2011 - 01:48:24 Driver installed properly. Driver Version: 2.0

Program version: 2.10 32Bit
Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 (build 2600)

Language: User: 1026 BGR ,System: 1026 BGR

nvidia: found 1 logical devices
nvidia: found 1 physical devices

nvidia: GeForce 6150SE nForce 430

Vendor ID: AuthenticAMD
Vendor: AMD
HighestIntegerValue: 00000001 - Processor Signature: 00050FF2
Misc. info: 00000800
Feature Flags1 00002001
Feature Flags2 078BFBFF

Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
Processor: Family: Fh, Model: 5F, Stepping: 2
Processor: Revision: DH-F2, Revision: F
Processor: Socket: AM2, Type: Athlon(tm) 64
Processor: Max Die (Tjunction) Temperature: 70.0 °C
The real Max Die (Tjunction) temperature is not this value
This value is for calculating the temperature ONLY
Max Die (Tjunction) is normally about Max Case + 5C
Processor: Max Case Temperature: 70.0 °C, Max Power: 0.0 W

Core Temperature: 47 °C, Raw Data: 602220
602220,602220,602220,602220,602220,602220,602220,602220,602220,602220,60
2220,602220,602220,602220,602220,602220,0ffffffffffffffffffffffff0000000
00000
This Processor has 1 cores and 1 temperature sensors.

BOINC:
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setiathome.berkeley.edu

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09 April 2011 - 01:48:34 Number of matching Programs (Processes): 1
Cpu: ak_v8b_win_sse3_amd.exe, PID: 2600, Threads: 3

2824) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange BSoD message (Message 1094991)
Posted 9 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The Intel site shows only "TCASE - 67.9°C" :(
http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=47932

! The readings from LCD display (which shows one temperature so it most probably is the external CPU case temperature = motherboard sensor under the CPU)
and the readings of CPU cores temperatures (= internal in-the-CPU-cores "Intel" sensors) from Core Temp, Real Temp and TThrottle
do NOT have to be equal!

(Read the "Edit:" in my previous post)

But readings from Core Temp, Real Temp and TThrottle
have to be equal (at all temperature range)! (otherwise the shown (by TThrottle) temperatures are not correct)

Without my setting the Tjunction, it would start back throttling me at a much lower temperature.

Don't play with Tjunction Max (it makes the CPU cores temperatures readings incorrect/false (on Intel CPUs))
- set it to the right value as reported by CoreTemp and RealTemp
and then play with "Set Core" to make the TThrottle act (Throttle)
when you are at 20-25°C near the Tjunction Max

(e.g. if you set TjMax=100 and "Set Core" 80°C
this is absolutely identical to if you set TjMax=50 and "Set Core" 30°C
)

Now with your settings:
TjMax=80 and "Set Core" 70°C you are set so TThrottle starts to Throttle the apps at 10°C near the Tjunction Max

The difference ("Delta") between TjMax and "Set Core" is the only parameter that makes TThrottle act.

2825) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange BSoD message (Message 1094941)
Posted 8 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I knew about the 67.9°C cover temp

I wonder how they come with values such as 67.9°C - did they expect that if CPU cover temp becomes 68.0°C the CPU will explode?? :)

My CPU (AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+, Athlon 64 3500+ (Orleans) [DH-F2])
have (AMD defined) Max CPU case temperature of 70°C

In TThrottle (Expert tab) is shown/used the default [70°C] "Tjunction Temperature"

(TThrottle says I can raise this (manually) +5 to 75°C - as 70°C is the Max CPU case temperature and it is expected that when the CPU case is at 70°C the internal temperature will be e.g. 75°C
I didn't change the default [70°C] (AMD CPUs temperature reading is not affected by setting of TjMax - the formula to calculate the "real" temperature of CPU core do not use TjMax value))

I use the starting point for Temperature Throttle ("Set Core") of 55°C (air stock cooling - "Box" CPU bundle (CPU + AMD labeled Fan/Heatsink))




What value do you use for "Set Core"? (in case e.g. cooling pump dies)


Edit:
And run Core Temp and Real Temp:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292

... see what they report for TjMax and set that value in TThrottle

! If TThrottle do not know the right TjMax it can't calculate the right CPU core temperature!
E.g.: if you now have set in TThrottle TjMax=80 (I don't know the proper/needed value) and TThrottle shows the CPU cores at about 51°C
if you set TjMax=60 then TThrottle will show 31°C and will think the CPU is very cool.
So set the right value for TjMax! (it is NOT 67.9°C !)

(TThrottle can't read the sensor on the mainboard that measures the external socket/CPU case temperature!)

2826) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange BSoD message (Message 1094930)
Posted 8 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I took the time to check now and see that Intel changed the way it defines the Max temp for Core i7 CPUs to Max. Cover Temp. (the same AMD used/use)
(or maybe Intel now defines both Max. Cover Temp. and TjMax?)





2827) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange BSoD message (Message 1094912)
Posted 8 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
My motherboard reports case temperature.

In which program?
Does program say "CPU case temperature" and which sensor (e.g. Winbond) it uses for reading?

When I started using TThrottle on this rig, I had to adjust the Tjunction at high load so that TThrottle reported the same temperature as the motherboard. I ended up with 85°C as pointed out earlier. The two only match up at high load, which is exactly what I want.

As you use Intel CPU - Intel defines Tjunction Max temperature
(which is the Max allowed internal in-the-CPU-core temperature).

You have to use that (not CPU case temperature) as TThrottle reads exactly that internal in-the-CPU-core temperature
and Intel wants exactly that internal in-the-CPU-core temperature to not exceed the Intel-defined Tjunction Max temperature.

CoreTemp and TThrottle have to show the same values at all temperatures as they read the same value.

Use e.g. this site to check the Tjunction Max of your CPU (Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU X 980 @ 3.33GHz):
Processor Electrical Specifications (V, A, W, ºC)
http://mysite.verizon.net/pchardwarelinks/elec.htm


(AMD defines Mac CPU case temperature)

2828) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange BSoD message (Message 1094869)
Posted 8 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So you say TThrottle reads both MSRs?

By "both MSRs" I mean:

A) MSR containing Tjunction Max (one constant value for the given CPU)
B) MSR (or MSRs if many cores) containing Delta/offset to TjMax (dynamic value(s))

2829) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange BSoD message (Message 1094868)
Posted 8 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It would be convenient then if TThrottle could report case temp too for comparison. All needed tools in one app :)


SIV 'System Information Viewer' reports both temps (and many other values)
http://www.rh-software.com/

It is hard to implement as the program have to know many different sensor chips used on motherboards.

And every motherboard uses somehow proprietary solution (connects sensor chip's inputs to different hardware)
- there is no standard AFAIK for how the different sensor chips have to be used/connected on motherboards.

2830) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange BSoD message (Message 1094858)
Posted 8 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

So you say TThrottle reads both MSRs?

"In the later generation of processors, starting with Nehalem, the exact Tjunction Max value is available for software to read in an MSR (short for Model Specific Register).

A different MSR contains the temperature data. The data is represented as a Delta in °C between current temperature and Tjunction."

2831) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lunatics' Unified Installer (Optimized SETI) (Message 1094838)
Posted 8 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Will the installer install to the directories i already have for SETI like what an update would do?

Yes.

See the Screenshots:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54288&nowrap=true#1066812

The screen #3 shows the directory, the installer gets the directory from the registry.

Example from another of my computers:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley\BOINC Setup]
"DATADIR"="H:\\BOINC-Data\\"

"DATADIR" is the BOINC Data directory, the Lunatics' Unified Installer adds "projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\" and (on this computer) will propose to Install in:
H:\BOINC-Data\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\


The directory will be different in your (anybody's) case.

The installer will not change anything until you press [Install]
You can change the directory manually or [Cancel] the installation (no changes will be made if you [Cancel])

2832) Message boards : Number crunching : New ATI OpenCL-based AstroPulse (rev516) released (Message 1094595)
Posted 8 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I installed it...get GPUs fine but no MB WUs....can not figure out why...help pls?


??? What do you say?
Explain in 50 words, not just 10

(
"Q: I can't drive my car, what is wrong with that?"
"A: Solution: maybe your leg is broken? ;)"
)

2833) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange BSoD message (Message 1094579)
Posted 8 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
BTW, what temps are typical for Core2 E6420? I see ~65C and run TThrottle to not go too higher... BOINC only on 50% CPU...

Is that CPU temp or CPU core temp? As Mike stated CPU temp limit should be 60.1ºC. If I remember correctly core temps are allowed up to 90ºC, but should probably double check that.

It's temp that TThrottle shows....

I am not sure what TThrottle is displaying. It says core temp but that does not seem to be the same as other software displays. Thermal software comparison.


Core Temp and TThrottle read the same (internal in the CPU core) sensor.
The value that sensor gives is offset from TjMax.

http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/howitworks.html

"Intel defines a certain Tjunction temperature for the processor. This value is usually in the range between 85°C and 105°C.
In the later generation of processors, starting with Nehalem, the exact Tjunction Max value is available for software to read in an MSR (short for Model Specific Register).
A different MSR contains the temperature data. The data is represented as a Delta in °C between current temperature and Tjunction.

So the actual temperature is calculated like this 'Core Temp = Tjunction - Delta'"


So the program must know the right TjMax
In your case TThrottle thinks the TjMax is 100ºC (so the temps shown are 15ºC higher!)

There is setting in TThrottle (Expert tab) to manually change the TjMax if you are confident that it have to be 85ºC


Since particular program may be wrong it is good to use several programs (as you do):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292

Processor Electrical Specifications (V, A, W, ºC)
http://mysite.verizon.net/pchardwarelinks/elec.htm

2834) Questions and Answers : Windows : Sound for SETI?? (Message 1093786)
Posted 6 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"The Signal" we search for is not necessarily send to us and not necessarily send intentionally -
we may catch some "ETI-leaks" not meant to reach us (of course if "they" still use radio waves with "proper" (Hydrogen) frequency (and not some Tachyon ... hm, "thing")).

2835) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU and CPU disagree (Message 1093760)
Posted 6 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Your Computers are also hidden, so if you are my "WU-partner" I will see in (possibly yours) Computer details "Owner - Anonymous".

I don't know why people hide their Computers - maybe they think we can see the "real" Computer (and files in it) and not just a few details.

Should SETI@home show your computers on its web site? yes

maybe have to be rephrased, e.g.:
Should SETI@home show info about your computers on its web site? yes
Should SETI@home show hardware/software configuration of your computers on its web site? yes
Should SETI@home show info about your computers (type of CPU, GPU, OS, BOINC, etc...) on its web site? yes

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

2836) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU and CPU disagree (Message 1093665)
Posted 5 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Are all -9 , overflow of results being done again?


No, if two results validate (even because of wrong app) the WU is considered noisy and is not computed (send) again to another computer.

2837) Message boards : Number crunching : Can't report or get new tasks (Message 1093398)
Posted 4 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm not sure what you mean by cleaning the BOINC data directory.
I just renamed the BOINC directory, .....


You may try to rename again to see can you report the ~170 finished tasks you have.

Report the finished tasks of "new" BOINC (Press [Update])

Exit BOINC
Rename the current BOINC data directory (/home/dahls/BOINC)(where you see cc_config.xml, client_state.xml) to e.g. BOINC_New
Rename the Old BOINC data directory to BOINC

Start BOINC
Select (in Projects tab) SETI@home
Press [No new tasks]
Press [Update]


(to return to the "current" (new) BOINC - Exit BOINC and rename again)

We will be interested to see the results.


P.S.
Your BOINC data directory is shown in your logs (messages):

03-Apr-2011 10:23:40 [---] Starting BOINC client version 6.10.17 for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
03-Apr-2011 10:23:40 [---] log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task, cpu_sched, cpu_sched_debug, http_debug
03-Apr-2011 10:23:40 [---] log flags: http_xfer_debug
03-Apr-2011 10:23:40 [---] Libraries: libcurl/7.18.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8g zlib/1.2.3 c-ares/1.5.1
03-Apr-2011 10:23:40 [---] Data directory: /home/dahls/BOINC

2838) Message boards : Number crunching : Need motherboard with ISA bus. (Message 1092882)
Posted 3 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I have this Computer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5732288

It is SUMICOM S620
http://www.kingyoung.com.tw/
http://www.kingyoung.com.tw/S620.htm

Intel 865GV Integrated Graphics (Intel Extreme Graphics 2)
is ~ as fast as NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 Integrated Graphics
(e.g. in Colin McRae Rally 2 (year 2000 ?) and in the desktop 2D interface)

I don't know about Intel® 845G Chipset but the Drivers are here:
http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/sb/cs-009236.htm


Maybe the Graphics Driver for Intel 865GV and Intel® 845G is (almost?) the same.


I hope you will not try to install Windows 7 on such hardware - you will not find drivers.
Windows XP will be best.

2839) Message boards : Number crunching : Need motherboard with ISA bus. (Message 1092455)
Posted 2 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=Motherboard+isa&_sacat=0&_sop=12&_odkw=Motherboard+isa&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313


i845G (OEM) Socket 478 Intel P4 MOTHERBOARD 3 ISA SLOTS (Intel Pentium 4 up to 3.06 GHz)
http://cgi.ebay.com/l845G-OEM-Socket-478-Intel-P4-MOTHERBOARD-3-ISA-SLOTS-/130498765771?pt=Motherboards&hash=item1e625523cb

Intel D845GECL Intel motherboards with ISA slot 845GE
http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-D845GECL-Intel-motherboards-ISA-slot-845GE-/390288113777?pt=Motherboards&hash=item5adefc0071

Itox G4E620 P4 478 ATX Motherboard 3x ISA Slots PCI AGP
http://cgi.ebay.com/Itox-G4E620-P4-478-ATX-Motherboard-3x-ISA-Slots-PCI-AGP-/190517716167?pt=Motherboards&hash=item2c5bbda4c7


Supermicro P4SCA PENTIUM 4 MOTHERBOARD (P4 up to 3.4GHz, 3x 16-bit ISA slots)
http://cgi.ebay.com/SUPER-P4SCA-PENTIUM-4-MOTHERBOARD-/350452374882?pt=Motherboards&hash=item519896dd62

2840) Message boards : Number crunching : Need motherboard with ISA bus. (Message 1092410)
Posted 2 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

usb2isa - USB 2.0 to ISA card (1-4 units, $149US each)
http://www.arstech.com/item--usb2isa1.html
http://www.arstech.com/item--usb2isasl.html

2841) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange BSoD message (Message 1092105)
Posted 1 Apr 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Please, look at this BSoD screenshot.


Any ideas what hardware component has problems?


Can we consider this "informative" message
as 1st April's joke from Microsoft? ;)

Where do you read voltages (some program, e.g. SIV - System Information Viewer)?
Are they fluctuating too much (especially the CPU core voltage)?





2842) Message boards : Number crunching : 4 GTX295 Hydros on a EVGA X58 Classified 4-Way SLI (Message 1091543)
Posted 30 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The error is the same:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1851628594

Stderr output
<core_client_version>6.10.60</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
There are no child processes to wait for. (0x80) - exit code 128 (0x80)
</message>
]]>



What is the DirectX version now? (Run: DxDiag)
Try to play some 3D (DirectX) game to see will it work.

Try also to disable your Antivirus' resident (On-Access) protection for a few minutes to test is it interfering.

Try to install again:
Lunatics_Win64v0.37_(SSE3+)_AP505r409_AKv8bx64_Cudax32f.exe

( Maybe some file (e.g. .DLL) is corrupted?
Or deleted (Quarantined) by your Antivirus?
What Antivirus do you use?
)


If you want to check/correct the files "by hand" you can use 7-Zip to manually extract files from the installer:




2843) Message boards : Number crunching : hd 6970 seti (Message 1091535)
Posted 30 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The last 3 lines are from the next section (about ATI OpenCL Astropulse) and are needed:
<app>
<name>astropulse_v505</name>
</app>


But the person who edits his own app_info.xml takes the full responsibility
- he must read, learn and know what he is doing.

The hints we give are supplied "AS IS" without any warranty ;)


P.S.
I'm not sure was it possible to keep the CPU-assigned Astropulse tasks
if a copy of the last section was added but with:
<version_num>505</version_num>

	<app>
		<name>astropulse_v505</name>
	</app>
	<file_info>
        	<name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r516.exe</name>
        	<executable/>
    	</file_info>
	<file_info>
	    <name>AstroPulse_Kernels.cl</name>
	    <executable/>
	</file_info>
<app_version>
        <app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
        <version_num>505</version_num>
        <platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
        <avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.20</max_ncpus>
        <plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
	<cmdline>-instances_per_device 1 -hp -unroll 10 -ffa_block 4096 -ffa_block_fetch 2048</cmdline>	
	<flops>30987654321</flops>
             <file_ref>
                  <file_name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r516.exe</file_name>
                  <main_program/>                           
           </file_ref>
    <file_ref>
        <file_name>AstroPulse_Kernels.cl</file_name>
        <copy_file/>
    </file_ref>
   <coproc>
   <type>ATI</type>
   <count>1</count>
   </coproc>
</app_version>

2844) Message boards : Number crunching : hd 6970 seti (Message 1091352)
Posted 29 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
u said download the app r117 but not sure what to do and what to change in the app_info


I give up, you are (obviously) not an "Advanced user", everything you need is already given to you.

And everywhere you can see the notice:

VERY IMPORTANT!!! Note that correct install of this application requires ADVANCED SKILLS.

http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php

http://lunatics.kwsn.net/15-optimized-applications-release-news/ati-opencl-multibeam-6-10-r177-for-windows-os.0.html


Or wait for Jason G. to release the new version (0.38 ?) of Lunatics' Unified Installer.

2845) Message boards : Number crunching : 4 GTX295 Hydros on a EVGA X58 Classified 4-Way SLI (Message 1091348)
Posted 29 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Still see no GPU requests. I will let it run for a while to see what happens. Thanks for the links to the solutions, I appreciate the help.


Post the contents of global_prefs_override.xml

Check you have
Use NVIDIA GPU - yes
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project


You can use BoincRescheduler to move some of the tasks to GPU
http://www.efmer.eu/forum_tt/index.php?topic=428.0

Direct link to BoincRescheduler V 2.5
http://www.efmer.eu/download/boinc/scheduler/boinc_rescheduler_2_5.zip

2846) Message boards : Number crunching : 4 GTX295 Hydros on a EVGA X58 Classified 4-Way SLI (Message 1091332)
Posted 29 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Well, I bumped it up to 85%, in case I am running something important. I have a favor to ask, I just got my first little shot of GPU tasks, 5-6, and they all errored out on this new computer. Can someone much more knowledgeable take a look at them and see if they can give me a suggestion of what may be causing it, before the server starts spewing out tons of GPU WU's and I snarf up a bunch. As always, thanks for the help..


Stderr output
<core_client_version>6.10.60</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
There are no child processes to wait for. (0x80) - exit code 128 (0x80)
</message>
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1851480516

"Looks like it's working now. I guess it was the old version of DirectX":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=31443

"This message occurs on Microsoft Windows computers, when you have an out of date DirectX version":
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=34190

FAQ Service
http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?language=1&view=69

Unofficial BOINC Wiki
http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Unrecoverable_error_for_result_'(result)'_(There_are_no_child_processes_to_wait_for._(0x80)_-_exit_code_128_(0x80))

2847) Message boards : Number crunching : hd 6970 seti (Message 1091231)
Posted 28 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

How people can help you if you don't read?

Read the second post and follow the links that skildude give you!


The links again:


ATI OpenCL MultiBeam 6.10 App (rev177) for Windows (for Download click [Mirror 1])
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;sa=dlview;id=272

app_info.xml (part) is in the post:
ATI OpenCL MultiBeam app (rev177)
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/12-gpu-crunching/ati-opencl-multibeam-application-released-rev177.0.html

(maybe you should modify it to use the faster for your GPU HD 6xxx
MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_HD5_r177.exe
instead of
MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_r177.exe
)



ATI OpenCL AstroPulse (rev516) released
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/12-gpu-crunching/ati-opencl-astropulse-rev516.0.html

app_info.xml (part) is in the above post and the Download link is under the post:
ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r516.rar

2848) Questions and Answers : Getting started : hello (Message 1091060)
Posted 28 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Check the permissions/exceptions (Allow boinc.exe) in your Firewall
(may be combined in your antivirus solution (e.g. "Internet Security"))

What is your antivirus?
What Firewall do you use?

2849) Questions and Answers : Windows : Not getting new work (Message 1091053)
Posted 28 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
3/27/2011 7:39:05 AM Reading preferences override file
3/27/2011 7:39:05 AM Preferences:
3/27/2011 7:39:05 AM max memory usage when active: 287.88MB
3/27/2011 7:39:05 AM max memory usage when idle: 1727.31MB
3/27/2011 7:39:05 AM max disk usage: 0.20GB
3/27/2011 7:39:05 AM suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 75 %

Leave at least 0.5GB free
Use at most 10%


max disk usage: 0.20GB should be enough for SETI (I don't know how much Rosetta wants/consumes)

If you still have problems with BOINC disk usage try to free some more HDD space and set:
Use at most 0.5 GB
Leave at least 0.1 GB free

2850) Questions and Answers : Windows : Not getting new work (Message 1091049)
Posted 28 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
3/27/2011 7:39:05 AM Reading preferences override file

Obviously, you are using local preferences. :-)

With:
Disk and memory usage 
	Disk: use at most		2 GB
	Disk: leave free at least	0.05 GB  
	Disk: use at most		50% of total
and 11 of 30 GB free, I get:
25/03/2011 12:24:46||Preferences limit disk usage to 1.86 GB

Gruß,
Gundolf


This is strange, I didn't pay attention that some BOINC versions (is this info from 5.10.45 ?)
use decimal GB for setting the "Disk usage" in local preferences
but binary GB when reporting "Preferences limit disk usage to"!

2*10^9 / 2^30 = 1.86


In BOINC 6.10.58 with local preference Disk usage: use at most 1.00 GB I see:
27/03/2011 11:13:44		Reading preferences override file
27/03/2011 11:13:44		Preferences:
27/03/2011 11:13:44		   max memory usage when active: 492.38MB
27/03/2011 11:13:44		   max memory usage when idle: 689.33MB
27/03/2011 11:13:44		   max disk usage: 1.00GB

2851) Questions and Answers : Windows : Not getting new work (Message 1090736)
Posted 26 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

What is the amount of free HDD space?

To see how much BOINC is using check in Disk tab.

For Disk preferences look:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58660&nowrap=true#967417

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59983&nowrap=true#996051

2852) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC disconnects my Netgear router ? (Message 1089613)
Posted 23 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Congratulations!

And (maybe because of this ;) ) you are today "User of the day"

(You are from United Kingdom so maybe ;) you know English better than me
but consider changing "You cant hide ..." to "You can't hide ..." :)
)

2853) Message boards : Number crunching : New rescheduler (Message 1089087)
Posted 21 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You can check "Simulation mode" in Expert tab, then compare (e.g. by Total Commander)
the original client_state.xml and the new one generated by BOINC rescheduler
and see what changes are made.

Are the changes compatible with the entries in the app_info.xml (i.e. will the changed client_state.xml work OK)

2854) Questions and Answers : Windows : Suspending computation - CPU usage is too high (Message 1088929)
Posted 20 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You also have to check which (Normal priority) process is using the CPU >25% so often.
Maybe something you installed recently?
Or browser with Flash game active (even if minimized it uses CPU)

But if you used the computer at that time (8:00-...), e.g. played games, watched HD video, etc., it is normal to see >25% CPU usage.


Just change the setting to 0 (zero) to avoid this repeated stop/start of tasks:

on web prefs:
Suspend work when non-BOINC CPU usage is above 0 % (0 means no restriction)

or in BOINC Manager:
While processor usage is less than [0] percent (0 means no restriction)

2855) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : More than one WU per GPU at the same time ? (Message 1088657)
Posted 20 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
...had no luck with the older versions GPU-Z. so it must just be a feature GPU-Z only makes available for nVidia GPUs and not ATI GPUs. i wonder if there is any other software out there that does allow ATI users to monitor their GPU memory usage?


also, i tried running 2 S@H GPU tasks simultaneously on the 5870, and while BOINC allowed it without errors, only 1 task was actually making progress even though both task's run times were ticking away. i wasn't expecting it, but after changing the app_info.xml file back to "run 1 task at a time" and restarting BOINC, the other task that made 0% progress no longer had 4:25 of run time on the clock and was being shown as "ready to start," which is nice to say the least b/c i didn't get an error. but this does seem odd. on the other hand, my GPU usage hovers at 90+% while crunching only 1 S@H GPU task, so perhaps that's why it isn't taking on more simultaneous work, even when BOINC and/or the application itself is instructed to allow it. is this normal for an ATI GPU? are nVidia GPUs known to be more efficient than ATI GPUs when it comes to crunching S@H MB and AP?


Do you remember what I (pardon - Yoda) told you here?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=63294&nowrap=true#1086213

<count> is one of the things to change but "there is another"

So did you change both:
<coproc>
   <type>ATI</type>
   <count>0.5</count>
</coproc>

and:
<cmdline>-instances_per_device 2</cmdline>

_______

For GPU monitoring try some of the programs here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62044
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292

(e.g. GPU Caps Viewer, EVEREST (AIDA64))

2856) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : More than one WU per GPU at the same time ? (Message 1088536)
Posted 19 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
but is blanking literally to Astropulse what angle width is to Multibeam? in other words, does percent blanking have to do with the angle width of a survey that generates AP WUs?


No, I think blanking is removing the contamination by (military?) radar signals near Arecibo.

2857) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : More than one WU per GPU at the same time ? (Message 1088530)
Posted 19 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
i'm hoping TOM will chime in, b/c i'm not sure how he was able to tell that his GPU memory consumption was 998MB.


GPU-Z shows "Memory Used" but maybe not on all video cards:





Also:
http://www.overclock.net/attachments/software-news/156434d1274481904-tpu-gpu-z-v0-4-3-gpuz.jpg


Try older version if GPU-Z v0.5.1 do not show it:
TechPowerUp GPU-Z v0.4.9
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1907/TechPowerUp%20GPU-Z%20v0.4.9.html

TechPowerUp GPU-Z v0.4.2
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1788/TechPowerUp%20GPU-Z%20v0.4.2.html

2858) Message boards : Number crunching : Anyone else experience that? (Message 1088514)
Posted 19 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Read GTX 295 Driver Hell:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=63400

2859) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : More than one WU per GPU at the same time ? (Message 1088283)
Posted 19 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
VLAR stands for Very Low Angle Range, as opposed to Very High Angle Range (VHAR), of MultiBeam tasks. So, there are only two types of tasks (with various subtypes).

Gruß,
Gundolf

thanks for clearing that up Gundolf. so do AP tasks have sub-types as well, or is it just the MB tasks?


If you open (look inside) of any MB task file at line ~20 you will see something like this:
<true_angle_range>0.41546625839622</true_angle_range> ("normal")
or
<true_angle_range>0.011820249584185</true_angle_range> (VLAR)

If the number is "too" small (< 0.04 ?) the task is considered VLAR (during the recording of the 107 sec (any task duration) the telescope was focused at one "point" of the sky)

You can only consider that VLAR tasks are some "sub-type" of MB tasks
if you also consider the half-inflated car tyre as a different "sub-type" of tyre ;)
The car will be harder to drive but in fact the tyres are the same, only with different air pressure.


How to compute what is "normal" angle_range (the telescope was NOT focused at "something" in the sky, the telescope "stays still" i.e. just rotates with Earth)
One revolution of Earth = 360 degrees
24 hours * 3600 = 86400 seconds
One task duration is ~107 seconds so in one day there are 86400 / 107 = 807 "chunks" of 107 seconds each

360 degrees / 807 = 0.446 degrees (is "normal" angle_range)
(the "parked" telescope travels 0.446 degrees through the sky during the recording of 107 seconds length)

_________

AP tasks "sub-type" is called "percent blanked":
<fraction_blanked>0.289200</fraction_blanked> (I found it in ...\slots\0\pulse.out1)

(in this case 28.92%)

More % blanked means slower computation.

2860) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : More than one WU per GPU at the same time ? (Message 1088265)
Posted 18 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Your GeForce GTX 480 (1503MB) can run 2 or 3 tasks at the same time (don't try this with GeForce GT 220 - it can't)

Bill, is this simultaneous task assessment based on the memory capacity of the GPU? and if so, why can't the OP's GTX 480 run a 4th simultaneous task if 3 tasks are only using up ~1GB of GPU memory and he has ~500MB still available?


The number of tasks per GPU is determined by try and success/error.

People try first 2 simultaneous tasks - if they both finish in less total time compared to 2 consecutive tasks you have success (and may try 3).
At one point (e.g. 4 tasks) you will notice that they fight for GPU/RAM resources and run too slow (e.g. 3 tasks finish in 2 hours (40 min/task) and 4 in 4 hours (60 min/task))

GPU load is good indicator - if you see 60% with 2 tasks you may try 3 to get 90-95% GPU load (but if you see 90% with 2 tasks the GPU is unlikely to handle more tasks)

So by experimenting people found that Fermi can run 2-3 tasks (GF 460-480) but e.g. GF 275 have enough load with only 1 task and is less effective with 2 tasks.

Do your own experiments monitoring the GPU load, temperature and result production (tasks/day) and find the limits (optimum) of your GPU/VideoRAM

2861) Message boards : Number crunching : Mac Boinc problems (Message 1088106)
Posted 18 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Good test and info for Mac users :)

# I don't have such trouble right now. So, I cannot check it works.

The "trouble" can/will show up if you have >1000-3000 tasks (depends on the CPU speed) -
BOINC Manager have to do (every second):
* Get the tasks list from boinc.exe
* Sort the tasks list
* Display the beginning of the sorted tasks list

On this Mac you have the biggest number of tasks (820 'In progress' tasks):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4529500

What is the CPU usage by BOINC Manager (boincmgr.exe) if window is maximized and all tasks are shown?
Does this depend (probably not) of which column is used for sorting?


P.S.
speedbump have probably problem on this Mac (>3000 tasks, 1670 'In progress' == in his computer):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5820994

2862) Message boards : Number crunching : Anyone ever have to replace capacitors? (Message 1088098)
Posted 18 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Caps will go bad if a piece of equipment is left sitting around not in use and when the piece of equipment is started up for the first time again after being in storage it needs to charge up the caps to put life back in them if they can recharge. So if a piece of equipment is left in storage the best thing to do is to cut on its power every so often to keep the caps charged otherwise you might have issues and it might not be able to replace the caps because they no longer are made. I hade this happen to me with my oscilloscope and the caps had aged because I did not keep them charged and then I found I could not replace the caps because they were no longer available.


This is true (keep them charged/ON so the aluminum oxide layer recreates and do not dissolve) but only for "normal" (good) electrolyte capacitors, not the "bad" with incorrect electrolyte formula.

I wonder what is this strange type of electrolyte capacitors which "were no longer available"?
(if you own/use oscilloscope you are probably electronics professional and know how to find similar replacement parts)

2863) Message boards : Number crunching : Anyone ever have to replace capacitors? (Message 1088040)
Posted 18 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Read this thread with interest, and was wondering if anyone had a suggestion as to what is considered the "best" capacitor right now, money no object (within reason, no weird Mil spec stuff from Area 51, etc). I remember reading about Asus bragging about the new style caps that they were using which were supposed to be so much better than the previous style, not sure which type they were. Is there such a this as Best, or does it depend on it's intended application - MB, vid card, etc? Thanks for the enlightenment!

The "Japanese Solid Capacitors" seems to be the latest "thing", but as far as long time reliability I don't know.


Maybe you mean Sanyo OS-CON
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS-CON

http://www.edc.sanyo.com/english/products/capacitor/oscon/outline.html

IIRC this type of capacitor was invented by/at Sanyo ~30 years ago but sadly become famous (in bigger use) only just now (for the last few years).


"An incorrect electrolyte formula within a faulty capacitor causes the production of hydrogen gas leading to bulging or deformation of the capacitor's case, and eventual venting of the electrolyte. ...
After some normal use the bad capacitors fail predictably far sooner than normal end-of-life;
Faulty capacitors have been discovered in motherboards as old as Socket 7 and have affected equipment manufactured up to at least 2007"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_capacitors

2864) Message boards : Number crunching : Mac Boinc problems (Message 1088020)
Posted 18 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
On my mac, I found "Library/Preferences/BOINC Manager Preferences" has a line as "ActiveTasksOnly=0"
I believe this is the one to change.

As the file is a simple text file, TextEdit should work for editing it.


You can check "is this the one" - in BOINC Manager push [Show Active Tasks]
and check the file - I think it will only update if you Exit BOINC Manager.

So if someone want to edit the file:
1) Exit BOINC Manager
2) Edit in the file ActiveTasksOnly=1
3) Start BOINC Manager

2865) Message boards : Number crunching : Mac Boinc problems (Message 1088017)
Posted 18 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I DONT KNOW WHAT IT WOULD BE, AS I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT IS ON A wINDOWS MACHINE. i DID UNINSTALL, DELETE ALL THE LIBRARIES FOR BOINC, AND THE PREFERENCES ALSO. THEN REINSTALLED AND IT SEEMS TO WORK FOR NOW. I HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE AND IT WORKED FOR A WHILE.


And that is saying somebody with 9 Windows computers attached to SETI ??!
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=62707

If "IT SEEMS TO WORK FOR NOW" did you already find the time to:
On Tasks tab - push button [Show Active Tasks] ?

2866) Questions and Answers : Web site : ReCaptcha phrase keeps failing when trying to edit profile. (Message 1088016)
Posted 18 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Opera 10.10
http://www.filehippo.com/download_opera/6595/

works OK on Win 98 - maybe will work also on Windows NT

2867) Questions and Answers : Web site : ReCaptcha phrase keeps failing when trying to edit profile. (Message 1088015)
Posted 18 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

20 Jan 2011 (same problem):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62854&nowrap=true#1068524

Try to solve here (the original place where reCAPTCHA comes from):
http://www.google.com/recaptcha/learnmore

2868) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Problem with CUDA on 8600GT (Message 1088010)
Posted 18 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

No need to ask - as you can see:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5511799

he is using:
NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT (256MB) driver: 19562


P.S.
Some (e.g. Sutaru Tsureku) say that 190.38 is the fastest driver for this kind of GPU:

[* Tests has shown that 190.x is the current fastest driver for CUDA calculation on 7/8/9xxx / GTS250 / GTX2xx GPUs. If you're also a gamer / or you have the new fermi graphic card (GTX4xx/5xx) / or you have Windows7, you could/should use 197.x+ . For to be sure, you should make a test which driver (190.x / 191.x / 195.x / 197.x) is the fastest / the best choice, for your system.]


2869) Message boards : Number crunching : Mac Boinc problems (Message 1087508)
Posted 16 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I cant show all task, or any function, the communicating with boinc client keeps poping up and wont stop. if i cancel it just pops up again. if it exit boinc manager, then i am not connected to local host. the last 2 days i cant do anything on this computer.


If the interface of BOINC Manager is unusable you can change the setting for [Show Active Tasks] directly:

Exit BOINC
Start RegEdit
Go To:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley\BOINC Manager\Tasks]

Change "ActiveTasksOnly" to 1

Start BOINC

P.S.
There have to be something similar to RegEdit on Mac OS

2870) Message boards : Number crunching : Mac Boinc problems (Message 1087361)
Posted 15 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

On Tasks tab - push button [Show Active Tasks]

Impact of 'Show All Tasks' with BOINC Manager
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62634&nowrap=true

2871) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC disconnects my Netgear router ? (Message 1087327)
Posted 15 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do you have some torrent client running (e.g. uTorrent)?
They tend to overload routers with too many simultaneous connections.

Since you have this message:
14/03/2011 22:48:00 SETI@home Reporting 185 completed tasks, not requesting new tasks

this means you have had successful connection to SETI@home in the past
(you successfully downloaded at least 185 SETI@home tasks, computed them (or maybe aborted?), successfully uploaded them and now try to report them (which will be useless since they are too old - timed-out)
)

Do you need to use proxy?
If so - check in BOINC Manager -> Advanced menu -> Options

2872) Message boards : Number crunching : My HD4870 GPU burned (Message 1087086)
Posted 14 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

As you can see by looking at the residue of thermal paste it looks like some of the RAM chips have had bad contact with the heatsink and some - no contact at all.

If the second (working) HD4870 is in the same condition you may expect heat problems on its video RAM
(some video cards supply sensor for "video RAM temperature" but maybe measuring just one of the chips)

2873) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Is there a SETI version that utilizes the 64 bit capability of Vista? (Message 1086469)
Posted 12 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

This "64 bit capability" of CPU & OS is referring to integer instructions.

SETI uses floating point calculations usually utilizing SSE (Streaming SIMD Extensions)

The SSE registers are 128-bit so four 32-bit single-precision floating point numbers are processed with one instruction.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streaming_SIMD_Extensions

2874) Questions and Answers : Windows : Screensaver problems Win7 (Message 1086455)
Posted 12 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Ну и почему тебе нужен Скринсейвер?
Исчисления работают (быстрее) и без него.
Может новый видео драйвер или ъпдейт уиндоуса сломали что то.

И не хорошо писать свой е-мейл в форумах - ожидай больше спама и возможно также удалят твоего сообщения из форума.

2875) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI OpenCL MultiBeam 6.10 problem.. (Message 1086377)
Posted 12 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
i was seriously hoping to avoid having to disable the HD 3300 integrated video b/c it made for zero GUI lag, even w/ the CPU & GPU crunching at full tilt simultaneously. i suppose i'll just have to look up tips on minimizing GUI lag then...


There is still no need to disable in BIOS the HD 3300 integrated video
(disabling it for BOINC will not disable it for Windows)

What is the behavior of BOINC now after you use again <ignore_ati_dev>0</ignore_ati_dev> ?

The next thing to try is:
1) Rename the cc_config.xml (e.g. to ---cc_config.xml) to disable its usage (BOINC will not see it if it has any different name)

2) Install the newest (beta) BOINC 6.12.18 (32 bit) and see how it handles your two ATI GPUs
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

Direct link:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_6.12.18_windows_intelx86.exe

2876) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI OpenCL MultiBeam 6.10 problem.. (Message 1086248)
Posted 12 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Funny, Very funny :))

Or is it "Impressive! Much impressive!" (Darth Vader)

2877) Message boards : Number crunching : Does GPU-hunting do any good? (Message 1086229)
Posted 12 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
the 240 is XP-32bit, the 9800 is Vista-64bit.

Disable "Aero" (the "Glass" effect, transparency of the top of windows) on Vista and try again the comparison.

I hope you don't use any screensaver.
Also keep BOINC Manager minimized in tray (leaving it open on Tasks tab and showing all tasks consumes CPU for sorting).
Anything that moves on screen (e.g. Skype animated emoticons, Flash game) also consumes CPU & GPU time.
Some of the Vista "Gadgets" are also big "consumers"

2878) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI OpenCL MultiBeam 6.10 problem.. (Message 1086213)
Posted 11 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
BilBG pointed out earlier in the thread how to run 2 tasks at once, but i'm going to hold on that until i know everything is stable and without errors.


Raistmer (as the main/only programmer of the ATI apps) can tell you exactly what to change.

<count> is one of the things to change but "there is another" (Yoda) :)


Do you use GPU-Z to monitor temperature and load of the GPUs?
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

2879) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI OpenCL MultiBeam 6.10 problem.. (Message 1086205)
Posted 11 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

How can line like this:
<ignore_ati_dev>n</ignore_ati_dev>
"fix things"??

"n" have to be substituted by 0 or 1 or 2 ..., e.g.:
<ignore_ati_dev>0</ignore_ati_dev>
or
<ignore_ati_dev>1</ignore_ati_dev>


yes i know...that "n" should be a "0" since GPU_0 is my HD 3300 integrated video and GPU_1 is my HD 5870. i tried to edit my above post to reflect that, but by the time i realized it, it was too late...i can no longer edit that post. if you look up 5 or 6 posts, you'll see that i did in fact try that cc_config.xml file under BOINC v6.10.58 to no avail (and yes i remembered to replace n with 0 when i tried it).


I read all posts before posting mine.

But the last of yours sounded like you want to say:
"because I tried <ignore_ati_dev>0</ignore_ati_dev> (5 posts above) and it has no effect
I will try <ignore_ati_dev>n</ignore_ati_dev> in hope it will (magically) fix things
(maybe BOINC knows what to disable and will auto-choose the "n" device)"

2880) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI OpenCL MultiBeam 6.10 problem.. (Message 1086122)
Posted 11 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I suggest you use either v6.12.18, or a cc_config.xml file - not both at once.

well as i stated previously, i had problems using the suggested cc_config.xml file w/ BOINC v6.10.58. so i suppose the next logical step is to give v6.12.18 a try without the help of a cc_config.xml file.
if i still have problems, i'll add the following cc_config.xml file to the BOINC data directory and see it that fixes things:

<cc_config>
<options>
<ignore_ati_dev>n</ignore_ati_dev>
</options>
</cc_config>


thanks again guys for the guidance.


How can line like this:
<ignore_ati_dev>n</ignore_ati_dev>
"fix things"??

"n" have to be substituted by 0 or 1 or 2 ..., e.g.:
<ignore_ati_dev>0</ignore_ati_dev>
or
<ignore_ati_dev>1</ignore_ati_dev>

2881) Message boards : Number crunching : Script for disabling/enabling GPUs on the fly (Message 1086092)
Posted 11 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... set clocks and fan, modify XML, restart BOINC.

I think - better first close BOINC, then change GPU clocks - it's not good to change clocks while SETI is running (may crash/hang ?)

Your observation that game need lower clocks and SETI works with higher clocks is strange - usually it is opposite.


script does not handle situations where BOINC core runs as service. If someone needs such functionality, let me know, I'll add it.

As you know Service install of BOINC can't use GPUs on Vista & 7 so it's highly improbable someone will need to enable/disable GPUs on Service install.


If anyone needs the script working with ATI cards, lemme know.

It's somehow stupid that BOINC have options

<ignore_cuda_dev>0</ignore_cuda_dev>
<ignore_ati_dev>0</ignore_ati_dev>

and not just

<ignore_GPU_dev>0</ignore_GPU_dev>
or
<ignore_Coprocessor_dev>0</ignore_Coprocessor_dev>

2882) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI OpenCL MultiBeam 6.10 problem.. (Message 1086009)
Posted 11 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I know only one tool (Script) that will create cc_config.xml automatically
but I doubt you know/use it:

Script for disabling/enabling GPUs on the fly
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62127&nowrap=true#1064910

2883) Message boards : Number crunching : GTX 295 Driver Hell (Message 1086006)
Posted 11 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Checked the cudart32_40_10.dll with over 40 antivirus programs:

http://www.virustotal.com/file-scan/report.html?id=f3c15b00ccefa492b3a10c90f542d1c4d3e7b070963fde912f004832ebe45c51-1299821963

http://virscan.org/report/b8239a3fbd77ba788904899ccf5240e0.html

Even Symantec (Norton) do not alarm (maybe they (VirusTotal & VirSCAN) disabled this "user rating of files" (Reputation score) in Norton)

Only one very funny result :)
AhnLab-V3 - 2011.03.10 - Trojan/Win32.OnlineGameHack

:)))

2884) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI OpenCL MultiBeam 6.10 problem.. (Message 1085989)
Posted 11 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
is it possible that the Lunatics v0.37 unified installer placed that cc_config.xml file in the BOINC data directory?


No

All changes that it does are only in ...\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\


i removed the file from the directory and restarted BOINC. same thing as before - one task begins crunching without a problem, but as soon as a 2nd tries to start, it errors out.


"from the directory" - which directory exactly?
Copy/Paste the full path here.


If you don't have cc_config.xml file in the BOINC data directory and you have two distinctly different GPUs BOINC is not supposed to start second GPU task (on the weaker GPU).

And you can check that the line "Config: use all coprocessors" in the messages is (or is not?) disappeared.


BOINC will start second GPU task (on the same GPU) if You manually edited in app_info.xml the number "1" to "0.5"in the following:
<coproc>
   <type>ATI</type>
   <count>1</count>
</coproc>

2885) Message boards : Number crunching : GTX 295 Driver Hell (Message 1085980)
Posted 11 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I don't know - I have no CUDA card.
Are the two files different in size?

2886) Message boards : Number crunching : GTX 295 Driver Hell (Message 1085975)
Posted 11 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Norton have very good looking but very bad usable interface -
you have to go 6 clicks inside to find which file (with path) it detected/removed.

I use NOD32 on 5 computers (some multi-boot/multi-OS) (used in the past and removed AVG, Avast, BitDefender, Norton)


You don't need to find the directory (the deleted/Quarantined files are garbled/encoded)

You need to find the Quarantine (or how Norton calls it?) in the Norton interface and select on the file "Restore and exclude from testing"

2887) Message boards : Number crunching : GTX 295 Driver Hell (Message 1085970)
Posted 11 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

7-Zip is even better:
http://www.7-zip.org/


Using these Settings:




the file size is only 7% of the original:




2888) Message boards : Number crunching : GTX 295 Driver Hell (Message 1085960)
Posted 11 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You decided to not use compression, if you did the Upload for you and Download for others would be 10 times (!) smaller:





(I made the experiment with the version found in Lunatics_Win32v0.37_AP505r409_AKv8b_Cudax32f.exe)

2889) Message boards : Number crunching : Multi core greater than 80 core (Message 1085941)
Posted 11 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"use all coprocessors" will work only after the line "No usable GPUs found" disappears!

Did you try GPU-Z?

Post the contents of cc_config.xml

2890) Message boards : Number crunching : Multi core greater than 80 core (Message 1085926)
Posted 11 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
arkayn was asking if BOINC was installed as a service.


It is not (that is good) - I do not see "Running as a daemon" in the messages.

Can GPU-Z see the 3 GPUs?
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

Try also GPU Caps Viewer (it is 32 bit but maybe works on 64 bit OS?)
http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/

2891) Message boards : Number crunching : Multi core greater than 80 core (Message 1085910)
Posted 11 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

What kind of "3 NVIDIA GPU's" (are they CUDA capable?)

Post the first ~20 lines of BOINC messages (after BOINC restart)


And of course do this again:

Re-Install Lunatics:
Exit BOINC
Run Lunatics_Win64v0.37_(SSE3+)_AP505r409_AKv8bx64_Cudax32f.exe
Choose SSSE3
Choose CUDA !

2892) Message boards : Number crunching : Errors on my NVIDIA/CPU on one computer. (Message 1085906)
Posted 11 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you use the screensaver/Show Graphics you may be interested to read this:
ap_Graphics_5_05_windows_intelx86 Memory Leak?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=63072

And look in Windows Task Manager which process is growing in memory usage -
maybe some other program is eating memory.

2893) Message boards : Number crunching : GTX 295 Driver Hell (Message 1085887)
Posted 11 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
All you have to do is fill out the form and wait a couple of days. They really just approve everyone. If you dont want to do that, just private message me your email and i can send you the files. Just make sure to tell me whether or not you are running 32 or 64 bit.


You can put the 4 files (for 32 and 64 bit) in a .rar or .zip
and Upload the .rar here (no registration needed):
http://www.datafilehost.com/

Then post the download link given by Datafilehost.com

2894) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI OpenCL MultiBeam 6.10 problem.. (Message 1085881)
Posted 11 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
well i just got home from work and started to do some investigating. like i said previously, i never went out of my way to give BOINC a <use_all_gpus> directive. however, upon looking at the default cc_config.xml file, i noticed it does contain a <use_all_gpus> directive...here's what it looks like:
<cc_config>
<options>
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
</options>
</cc_config>


There is no such thing as default cc_config.xml
Only You (or another person at the computer) put it there manually!

BOINC installation do not have cc_config.xml file.

2895) Message boards : Number crunching : Previously Processed Data Sets (Message 1085809)
Posted 10 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You can look here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html

Look under "Splitter status" for which "tapes" (data files from Arecibo) are processed at the moment.

e.g. "13dc10ab" means the second (ab) "tape" from 13 dec 2010

There are also some old tapes (12se06ab) but (I think) they are processed for the first time now.
It was impossible to process them in the past - they are contaminated by (military?) radar noise.
This contamination is now removed by new developed software.

2896) Message boards : Number crunching : Multi core greater than 80 core (Message 1085801)
Posted 10 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

By Rerun I mean Re-Install, i.e.:
Exit BOINC
Run Lunatics_Win64v0.37_(SSE3+)_AP505r409_AKv8bx64_Cudax32f.exe
Choose SSSE3

2897) Message boards : Number crunching : Multi core greater than 80 core (Message 1085719)
Posted 10 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Superdome 2 is SCALING!! 99%

X64 160 LP box is also at 90%!!!! 5 to 10 percent more would be awesome if anyone has ideas.

this is getting easier now that I am starting to understand what you guys are talking about and understanding the tool.

Thanks everyone!

I think tomorrow I might throw some nasty GPU's in the X64 160 LP box and see what happens. My new memory risers will also me in which will help performance.


"I am starting to understand": Congratulations! You are the first ;)

AFAIK no one have experience running BOINC/SETI on so big number of CPUs,
you are exploring uncharted territories.


P.S.
I see you are using SSE3 app but I think your CPU
Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E7- 2870 @ 2.40GHz
supports SSSE3
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Xeon/Intel-Xeon%20E7-2870%20AT80615007266AA.html

Rerun the Lunatics' Unified Installer and choose SSSE3 for faster/fastest app.

2898) Message boards : Number crunching : Multi core greater than 80 core (Message 1085491)
Posted 10 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If BOINC is using GetSystemInfo() function to find the number of logical processors in the computer
I think BOINC will see no more than 64 CPUs.

I hope the workaround will be to set in cc_config.xml
   <options>
      <ncpus>160</ncpus>
   </options>


(this was proposed already in the second post in this thread)

I'm not sure will the 160 running tasks be properly assigned to different logical CPUs or will run in just a group of 64 CPUs.

2899) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange result, how is this possible? (Message 1085485)
Posted 9 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... if someone thinks up a practical modification now would be a good time to propose it.


If two GPU hosts report "-9 result_overflow" mark the results "Completed, validation inconclusive"
and send third task to CPU host for confirmation.

If CPU says "it is not overflow" set/raise this CPU-result's "vote_weight" in quorum to e.g. 1.5 or 2 (this one result will vote twice)
and send one more (hopefully last) task.

(this will address also hot/overclocked GPUs and software flaws)

2900) Message boards : Number crunching : Multi core greater than 80 core (Message 1085425)
Posted 9 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The BOINC client has no limit on the # of CPUs.
If uses the Windows GetSystemInfo() function to get the # of CPUs.
-- David


Do you have ideas why Windows Task Manager shows 160 virtual CPUs (so Windows "knows" about all of them) but BOINC "thinks" there are 60 virtual CPUs ?

Is it possible for GetSystemInfo() function to "lie" about the # of CPUs ?


GetSystemInfo Function:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/blogvisualizer/ms724381

SYSTEM_INFO Structure:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/blogvisualizer/ms724958

"dwNumberOfProcessors
The number of logical processors in the current group. To retrieve this value, use the GetLogicalProcessorInformation function."


GetLogicalProcessorInformation Function:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/blogvisualizer/ms683194

"On systems with more than 64 logical processors, the GetLogicalProcessorInformation function retrieves logical processor information about processors in the processor group to which the calling thread is currently assigned. Use the GetLogicalProcessorInformationEx function to retrieve information about processors in all processor groups on the system."


Processor Groups:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/blogvisualizer/dd405503

"Support for systems that have more than 64 logical processors is based on the concept of a processor group, which is a static set of up to 64 logical processors that is treated as a single scheduling entity. Processor groups are numbered starting with 0. Systems with fewer than 64 logical processors always have a single group, Group 0."

2901) Message boards : Number crunching : Multi core greater than 80 core (Message 1085269)
Posted 9 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Try to set:
On multiprocessors, use at most 50% of the processors

to see what happens (will BOINC use 80 or 30?)

2902) Message boards : Number crunching : Multi core greater than 80 core (Message 1085256)
Posted 9 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I see "Processor: 60 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E7- 2870 @ 2.40GHz"
and actually 60 tasks are running (Restarted + Started).

Is it what you expect, i.e.:
1) Do you think you have 60 (or more) virtual CPUs (according to the computer/CPU specs)?
2) Do you see (exactly) 60 virtual CPUs in Windows Task Manager -> Performance ?


Example picture of 128 virtual CPUs in Windows Task Manager:




2903) Message boards : Number crunching : My HD4870 GPU burned (Message 1085245)
Posted 9 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


If somebody is curious what can be found in local Bulgarian computer parts market:
http://mostbg.com/most/PriceList.aspx

For the end-consumer price look the column #2 and add 20% VAT.

(To buy something I just phone call one small representative/company (one room/shop 3x4 meters, 2 people) in my home town to order,
and 1-3 days later I go to them (1 km), pay (cash) and get the parts (no shipping cost, I pay only column_#2*1.20 (for 20% VAT)).
)


I also can/used to order parts on-line from Bulgarian web sites - no credit card needed (maybe 1/1000 of Bulgarians have credit card) -
you order in web form, they call you on the phone to check you really made the order,
they deliver to your door (1-3 days), you pay (cash) the delivery-guy (parts + shipping ($3-$10))


I expect the Russian computer parts market to be even better (more parts to choose from).

2904) Message boards : Number crunching : Multi core greater than 80 core (Message 1085235)
Posted 9 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I checked and I am set already to 256 CPU's.

This setting is old/obsolete (don't used by current BOINC)
Use/check (both on web and local (in BOINC Manager) preferences):
On multiprocessors, use at most 100% of the processors
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global


I think I found part of the issue in which 64 GB memory had been removed from my lower tray. ...
I can go up to 2tb in memory but I am not sure if this app can handle it.


For SETI you need only ~30 MB per running task.

Also check:
Memory: when computer is in use, use at most XX% of total
Memory: when computer is not in use, use at most YY% of total

Edit:
For diagnosis it will be good to restart BOINC and post here the first 40-50 lines from Messages tab.
Some of us may spot the problem by looking at the messages.

2905) Questions and Answers : Getting started : I need a little explanation, please. (Message 1082943)
Posted 2 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

In earlier post I gave you this link:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292

In the second post "Know your CPU" there is this link:
http://mysite.verizon.net/pchardwarelinks/elec.htm


If you search/find in page for the string "Phenom II X3 720" you will find:

Phenom II X3 720 (tri 2.8GHz - 3x 512KB - 6MB L3)
Core Voltage (0.85V~1.425V)
TDP 95W
Max. Case Temp. 73°C


[AMD defines max "CPU case" temperature (measured at the centre-top of the CPU package)]

2906) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Starmap and Sound (Message 1082881)
Posted 2 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The best thing you can do is find some Windows emulator for Mac OS X
http://www.macwindows.com/emulator.html

~15 years ago I have seen how Tomb Raider 1 (for MS-DOS) run on Mac (in emulator)

2907) Questions and Answers : Getting started : How to tell if my seti has an Extra Terrestrial signal? (Message 1082799)
Posted 2 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

One of your tasks:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5834075
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1819611514

Shows:
Flopcounter: 31666539299162.027000

which is 31 666 539 299 162 = 31 trillion Floating Point Operations.

This is normal for today's (last ~2 years) tasks - they are more deeply analyzed than in Classic times (~10 years ago).

2908) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Migrating SETI Classic account (Message 1082796)
Posted 2 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Unfortunately the link do not work - whatever you type in the box it generates BLANK page :(
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php

2909) Questions and Answers : Windows : help!!! too many cuda tasks (Message 1082610)
Posted 1 Mar 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Your GPU is computing for SETI about 8 times faster than 1 core of your CPU
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5815683&offset=0&show_names=1&state=3&appid=

You have 2 CPU cores
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5815683

So you can expect that BOINC will download 4 times more GPU tasks than CPU tasks.

If you want you can use the Fred's BoincRescheduler to move tasks from CPU to GPU or GPU to CPU
http://www.efmer.eu/forum_tt/index.php?topic=428.0

2910) Questions and Answers : Getting started : I need a little explanation, please. (Message 1082340)
Posted 28 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Ok, I do understand it, Initially I thought that the amount of tasks your Pc can work on is limited to how many can you download, but I see now it's core bound.

"how many can you download" depends (mainly) on
1) how fast your computer processes the tasks
2) how many days of work you set in the two "Network usage" preferences:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global

"how many can you run simultaneously" depends on how many CPU cores you have/allow to be used.

Now one last question will the constant 100% usage of the CPU damage my processors on the long run? I have to watch my CPU how can it handle overheating. What is your experience?

45-50 C are mine CPUs at 100% constant load for years. My 3 CPUs have Max allowed temp of 70, 75, 90 C
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62044

2911) Questions and Answers : Getting started : I need a little explanation, please. (Message 1082334)
Posted 28 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
OK so for a 3 core Pc I want to dedicate 1 core to Seti I set CPU available 33% and 100% CPU for time. This way 1 core will be fully dedicated to processing Seti tasks.

Yes - this will use 1 core at 100% all the time.

If I set all cores to be used all the time will Seti use up my CPU 100% all the time?

Yes, most of us let the SETI use 100% CPU all the time.

I'm asking this because I would love to do this, but I usually run so many side programs and usually 1 game that my normal day to day usage is around 60-70% CPU and around half of the 4gb ram that I have.

The SETI tasks run at the lowest possible priority - all other programs will use the CPU as they need (and the SETI will use just what % of CPU remains)
The RAM usage is about 20-30 MB per task so for 3 tasks running you need ~100 MB RAM

Try it and you will find that even if this very low priority process is using the CPU at 100%
you will not see any slowdown in other programs (games).

Can I have multiple tasks running at the same time say with 1 core usage?
or this is limited to the server bandwidth?

What "server bandwidth"?? I don't understand what you mean - there is no relevance.
At SETI (and most other projects) the programs are single-threaded so you will see 1 task per core running (= 3 tasks running if you enable 3 cores).

Better run the program for a while, experiment a few days and see what happens.

2912) Questions and Answers : Getting started : I need a little explanation, please. (Message 1082323)
Posted 28 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


You may give link to her account or (if you know the password) Log-out from "Snapi" and Log-in her account and post from it.
But no need for this if you do not intent to use her account anymore.

You can click on my "name" BilBg to "View" my Computers (the info is from last contact with server - no need for the Computer to be online to see this info)

made the CPU 50% available

Which setting do you mean:
On multiprocessors, use at most 50% of the processors
Use at most 50% of CPU time

The first setting will make use of the 1/2 of the number of CPUs (for dual core - one core will work at 100% load and the other core will be idle)

The "Use at most 50% of CPU time" means:
use all cores at 100% for 1 second, pause for 1 second, .....


download rate was abysmall

Usually it is 5-50 KB/s if the servers are not overloaded.

does it processes the data while downloading?

Not the data (tasks, WUs) which are in process off downloading
but of course it processes the tasks which are on board (already finished downloading)

Why are the packages say 70MB .....

There are no such big "packages" at SETI (we call them Tasks or WorkUnits).

There are 2 types of tasks:
~360 KB (SETI@home Enhanced = Multibeam) (compute on CPU in a few hours)
~8 MB (Astropulse) (compute on CPU in a few days)

Back home I have an AMD x3 720 processor and a 1 GB HD4870 GPU but relatively slow Internet, will it go better?

Try it.
Desktop is better cooled than laptop - you can use it at 100% CPU load (No slowdown for me even on 500 MHz CPU)
Speed of Internet have no importance - it is used a few minutes per day with speed <100 KB/s

2913) Questions and Answers : Getting started : I need a little explanation, please. (Message 1082319)
Posted 28 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

How can you have any observations of how the program runs if you have NO computer attached to SETI?!

2914) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Starmap and Sound (Message 1082291)
Posted 28 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The starmap could be an alternative to the screensaver that is now running, free to choose from the user itself.
To see this possibility installed at Seti@Home for all platforms, would be a nice idea, I still think.

They have no time to program that, as you see the SetiMapView is made by somebody else, not the people in the lab.


Sound: You're right, Odysseus- it sounds pretty noisy and -for some- disappointing, but it's a nice idea, I think, to get it touch with the signal not just by numbers and graphics.


If you want to hear that "Classic" sound of space (noise) get my package
Classic SETI in action
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59278&nowrap=true#994346
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59278&nowrap=true#1024291


Direct links (Two versions of Classic SETI@home):

Version 3.03
http://mail.dir.bg/~bil/SETI@home__Classic_SETI_for_fun__--BilBg--.rar

Version 3.08
http://mail.dir.bg/~bil/SETI@home_3.08__BilBg.rar

(Just extract files and run SETI@home.exe - no install needed)


Classic work_units:
http://mail.dir.bg/~bil/SETI@home__Classic__work_unit.sah.rar


How to Listen to the "Classic" sound of space:

Go to wu2wav directory
Run wu2wav.exe
Play the generated work_unit.wav

Note:
wu2wav.exe works only with Classic files work_unit.sah

(For more work_unit.sah files look in SETI@home__Classic__work_unit.sah.rar
Just put one Classic work_unit.sah file in wu2wav directory and Run wu2wav.exe
)

2915) Questions and Answers : Web site : Security Concern (Message 1082275)
Posted 28 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... Now when I google seti, the "male performance enhancement drug" shows up on the main google page...


No! It is NOT:
http://www.google.com/search?q=seti






If you see something different on your computer/browser you may have some malware
(Browser Toolbar/Browser Helper Objects/UrlSearchHooks/Browser Extensions/Add-ons)
which modifies the search results (I have seen this happen!).

Give us a screenshot.

2916) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : More than one WU per GPU at the same time ? (Message 1081149)
Posted 25 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

AFAIK the only way is to use app_info.xml no matter is it created by Lunatics' Unified Installer or manually.

Maybe the future versions of BOINC will have some option to choose the number of simultaneous tasks/GPU on per-project basis.

2917) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Starmap and Sound (Message 1080975)
Posted 24 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The Windows programs are here:
http://www.bjoernhenke.de/frame.htm?/boinclogx/index.en.htm
http://www.bjoernhenke.de/frame.htm?/smv/index.en.htm

I don't know is there Windows emulation on the Mac OS

2918) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Many WUs on GTX 460 taking a long time (Message 1080334)
Posted 22 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Do you use (any) screensaver?
Do you often play 3D games?
Open programs (e.g. browser)?

Did you Reboot recently?

Exit BOINC and check the GPU load (by GPU-Z)(if another program is using the GPU).
Also check which process uses the most CPU.
Try running without the Fred's priority tool.
Check the speed (MHz) of GPU/shaders/video RAM during the GPU computation.

2919) Questions and Answers : Getting started : How to start? (Message 1079483)
Posted 19 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

And don't expect to get SETI tasks for your ATI GPU 0: ATI Radeon HD5x00
- there is still NO standard SETI app for ATI GPUs (maybe in the future).

2920) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : 2 NV Cards in pc, 240 +460, only 460 doing Cuda (Message 1079066)
Posted 19 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

<cc_config>
   <options>
      <use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
   </options>
</cc_config>


http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration
http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Cc_config.xml
http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?language=1&view=91

Similar issue:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=61402&nowrap=true

2921) Questions and Answers : Getting started : how to correct "connection"? (Message 1078888)
Posted 18 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

There are many types of "unable to connect" messages.
Where do you see the message and what is the message exactly?

2922) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Migrating SETI Classic account (Message 1078632)
Posted 18 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Using Opera on XP I tried with fake e-mail and the result is really blank page (no data/source)

Webmaster have to check why these 2 links do not work
(the first link gives "Remote server or file not found" and the second generate blank page)

2923) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : NV GTX 560 Ti - Problem : result_overflow (Message 1078239)
Posted 17 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Maybe you overclock the GPU - try to run it with less aggressive settings or return to standard speeds to test will the error disappear.

Use GPU-Z
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

to check the GPU load and temperatures (if GPU is too hot it can make errors).

2924) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : More than one WU per GPU at the same time ? (Message 1078230)
Posted 17 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
GPU Temp : up from 42°C to 44°C

That is really cool running GPU at 100% load, do you use liquid cooling?

Do i have to change anything if there will be a second GTX 480 ?

No, this setting applies to all the CUDA GPUs in the computer (3 tasks per GPU * 2 GPUs = 6 CUDA tasks total will be running)


P.S.
I wonder why do you have VLAR tasks sent to the GPU, the server is supposed to send them only to CPU as they run slow (ineffectively) on GPU
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5817418&offset=0&show_names=1&state=2&appid=

You can use Fred's Rescheduler to move them to CPU
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60712
http://www.efmer.eu/forum_tt/index.php?topic=428.0

Direct link to BoincRescheduler V 2.4
http://www.efmer.eu/download/boinc/scheduler/boinc_rescheduler_2_4.zip

2925) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : More than one WU per GPU at the same time ? (Message 1078217)
Posted 17 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Your GeForce GTX 480 (1503MB) can run 2 or 3 tasks at the same time (don't try this with GeForce GT 220 - it can't)

You are using app_info.xml created by Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.37
so you can edit it with Notepad to change every occurrence (probably 6 places) of:
   <coproc>
      <type>CUDA</type>
      <count>1</count>
   </coproc>


to:
   <coproc>
      <type>CUDA</type>
      <count>0.5</count>
   </coproc>

for 2 tasks

or to:
   <coproc>
      <type>CUDA</type>
      <count>0.33</count>
   </coproc>

for 3 tasks

For easy change you can make 3 copies of app_info.xml (for 1,2,3 tasks per GPU) and just rename (Exit BOINC first) e.g.:
app_info.xml -> 1app_info.xml
3app_info.xml -> app_info.xml


Do you know where the app_info.xml file is?


Use GPU-Z
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

to check the GPU load and temperatures.

2926) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : More than one WU per GPU at the same time ? (Message 1078171)
Posted 17 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Only if you use app_info.xml and know how to edit it.

(your computers are hidden so you have to help yourself, we can't see what hardware you have and it's pain to ask for every detail)

2927) Message boards : Number crunching : reinstall advice (Message 1078155)
Posted 17 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


I mean that if you find stdoutdae.txt file somewhere on the disk it's very probable you already found the BOINC Data folder.

But if you found several copies (e.g. you made backup copies of BOINC Data folder in the past)
better look inside the newest (or all) found file to confirm you know where the BOINC Data folder is.

:) And use RegEdit to confirm the confirmation ;)

2928) Message boards : Number crunching : reinstall advice (Message 1078144)
Posted 17 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Very probably, but I suppose you can find some copy of it ;)

2929) Message boards : Number crunching : reinstall advice (Message 1077746)
Posted 16 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
i recently had to do some work on a system.

1. I let seti run out of tasks.
2. I copied the entire Boinc folder from program files elsewhere.
3. un-installed Boinc

My question is can I re-install Boinc (same version), stop service, copy in saved Boinc folder and be back where I was , with the same computer id, etc???


Boinc folder from program files does NOT matter,
what matters is BOINC Data folder

Where is it on particular machine you can see in the first messages, e.g.:
15-Feb-2011 06:46:28 [---] Starting BOINC client version 6.6.38 for windows_intelx86
15-Feb-2011 06:46:28 [---] log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops, benchmark_debug
15-Feb-2011 06:46:28 [---] Libraries: libcurl/7.19.4 OpenSSL/0.9.8k zlib/1.2.3
15-Feb-2011 06:46:28 [---] Data directory: D:\Programs.98\Science\BOINC-Data


Or search for stdoutdae.txt file and look in it.


Or start RegEdit and in the following place look what is the DATADIR:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley\BOINC Setup]
"DATADIR"="D:\\Programs.98\\Science\\BOINC-Data\\"

2930) Questions and Answers : Getting started : so long and thanks for all the fish (Message 1075971)
Posted 10 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Another possible solution is to change the link/option from Delete Account to Hide Account.

This will NOT Delete the info from the database but just Hide all your posts, account, computers.

And will be reversible if you change your mind (you will have access to the account info/options (e.g. using Account key) but for other users you will appear as "vanished").


This new "Delete Account" feature is to satisfy wishes of less than 0.1% of "users"
but may harm many more real contributors.


There is no button in everyone's kitchen that says "Blow up my house"
just because a few people in the country want to disappear and not be found.

2931) Message boards : Number crunching : Seti Classic credits! (Message 1075796)
Posted 10 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You already have Classic account attached to your BOINC account -
it is not possible to attach/connect second Classic account to the same BOINC account (even if you remember the password).

2932) Questions and Answers : Getting started : so long and thanks for all the fish (Message 1075718)
Posted 10 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


I don't like if this option is so easy to use - most people select "Stay logged in on this computer"!

So some bad guy with (temporary) access to any computer/browser I use can delete my account (by just selecting "Yes"?!).


There have to be confirmation by:

1) Asking for the account password (and Change password link have to ask for the old password)

2) e-mail sent with link to confirm the delete

3) Auto-postpone (delay) the actual delete for e.g. 3-7 days in which period the user can change the decision to kill the account
and click on [Do NOT delete my account]

(which have to be on the top of page after the red
"WARNING: YOUR ACCOUNT WILL BE DELETED after XX:YY hours"
)

2933) Questions and Answers : Windows : Temperature Monitoring Programs (#2) (Message 1075698)
Posted 10 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


@John McLeod VII
@Jeph

As I noticed in the first post - there is another older thread:

Temperature Monitoring Programs:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292

where there are links to about 15 programs (including TThrottle and SpeedFan (with correct working link, not http://www.speedfan.com/))

2934) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Migrating SETI Classic account (Message 1075310)
Posted 8 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Try
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php

2935) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : SETI Enhanced ver 6.09 cuda23 only uses 1 cuda core? (Message 1075244)
Posted 8 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Get GPU-Z
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

Check the GPU load (one SETI CUDA task uses all the GPU cores it can/need)

2936) Questions and Answers : Windows : Temperature Monitoring Programs (#2) (Message 1075235)
Posted 8 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


CPU Thermometer
http://www.cputhermometer.com/

Open Hardware Monitor
http://openhardwaremonitor.org/

2937) Questions and Answers : Windows : New computer questions (Message 1075230)
Posted 8 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Applications for MilkyWay@Home
http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/apps.php

I don't know do they send tasks for MilkyWay@Home 0.50 (which will work on this CPU)
or only for MilkyWay@Home N-Body Simulation 0.21 (sse2) (which will NOT work)

2938) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : SETI Enhanced ver 6.09 cuda23 only uses 1 cuda core? (Message 1074753)
Posted 6 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

And what do you expect from GeFarce 210 ??!

Only Fermi class GPUs (GF 4XX) can run more than one task at a time,
and even for them this is not the default behavior - the user have to do special efforts for this to happen.

2939) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Cuda not working in Seti, but is in Enstein (Message 1073851)
Posted 3 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

On Projects tab - try to [Suspend] all other projects except SETI, then [Update] SETI
I think you have too much work from other projects

03/02/2011 14:51:43 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
03/02/2011 14:51:43 SETI@home Not reporting or requesting tasks


You can also increase Additional work buffer to e.g. 5 days.

2940) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Cuda not working in Seti, but is in Enstein (Message 1073810)
Posted 3 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Restart BOINC, do manual [Update] for SETI and post first 40-50 lines of messages from Messages tab

2941) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Как использовать в работе только видеокарту с Cuda? (Message 1073503)
Posted 2 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

Click:
Edit SETI@home preferences (at bottom of page)

Choose:
Use CPU - no

Press button (at bottom of page):
[Update preferences]


This will send you (in the future) only CUDA tasks.
The CPU tasks already on your computer will not be discarded (will be processed by CPU)

2942) Questions and Answers : Windows : Why did Boinc flush 1344 WUs? (Message 1073478)
Posted 2 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


And, strangely, he is making the same mistake again after the same error happened to him 4 months ago:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=61665&nowrap=true

As you see I responded with the same advice:
"install Win64 Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.37"

2943) Questions and Answers : Windows : Why did Boinc flush 1344 WUs? (Message 1073401)
Posted 2 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
you have to:

2) Install the 64 bit Win64 Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.37

Now why does he have to? Just because you want him to? Can't he decide for himself if he wants to use stock applications which update themselves when new ones come out, or Lunatics apps which one always has to update by hand? Why do people have to?

Why don't you wait for people asking help around here to ask for optimized apps and how to do that, instead of shoving it down their throat without an explanation as to why you want them to use these apps and what to do when an update is required?



By His post:

I am running the 32-bit version of Boinc on Win 7 64-bit. All I process is 603 and 608 tasks using the optimized apps. How did I receive 1344 messages like the ones below when I moved the WUs from a computer that is going down to one that works?


But he is using (obviously - [error] No application found for task: windows_intelx86 603)
the app_info.xml from the old computer with not all needed plan classes

This (old) app_info.xml was created by 32 bit Win32 Lunatics' Unified Installer

So he needed (now is too late) to "2) Install the 64 bit Win64 Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.37" to avoid errors on 64 bit OS


Edit:
Sorry - it's not <plan_class>, it's <platform>

e.g.:

(32 bit) AKv8_SSE3_INTEL.aistub
<app_info>
    <app>
        <name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>AK_v8b_win_SSE3_INTEL.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>603</version_num>
        <file_ref>
           <file_name>AK_v8b_win_SSE3_INTEL.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
</app_info>



(64 bit) AKv8bx64SSE3.aistub
<app_info>
    <app>
        <name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>AK_v8b_win_x64_SSE3.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>603</version_num>
	<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
        <file_ref>
           <file_name>AK_v8b_win_x64_SSE3.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>603</version_num>
	<platform>windows_x86_64</platform>
        <file_ref>
           <file_name>AK_v8b_win_x64_SSE3.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
</app_info>

2944) Questions and Answers : Windows : Why did Boinc flush 1344 WUs? (Message 1073047)
Posted 1 Feb 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I am running the 32-bit version of Boinc on Win 7 64-bit. All I process is 603 and 608 tasks using the optimized apps. How did I receive 1344 messages like the ones below when I moved the WUs from a computer that is going down to one that works?


After you copy the entire BOINC Data directory to the new computer you have to:

1) Install BOINC (use Advanced option to choose BOINC Data directory - point the BOINC Installer to the place where you put it (not in Program Files))
(even if you have it already installed - Install BOINC again over the previous installation to set the correct access rights on everything in BOINC Data directory)

Do not start BOINC

2) Install the 64 bit Win64 Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.37 (which will put all the correct/needed plan classes (e.g. "windows_intelx86")) in app_info.xml
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9

Choose the correct options for the (new) CPU and GPU

3) Optional: stop Internet (pull LAN cable, stop Wi-Fi) - if errors appear you can repeat the procedure (you will need the original copy of the entire BOINC Data directory from the old computer)

4) Start BOINC (if no errors - reconnect the Internet)

2945) Questions and Answers : Windows : Constant network traffic - BOINC ignores "don't fetch new WU" (Message 1071906)
Posted 29 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Running BOING – network traffic
Uninstalled BOINC – NO network traffic
Reinstalled BOINC - network traffic

I checked that is was boinc and boincmgr that caused the traffic using advanced system monitoring from Windows Control panel.


No need to Uninstall - just Exit BOINC to check.

"network traffic"?? - I don't think so
- try to pull the network LAN cable (or stop Wi-Fi) - the "network traffic" will continue!

This is not traffic to outside world - it is inside the computer (and perfectly normal and by design for all BOINC versions)

BOINC communicates to outside world only a few times per day for a few seconds!

Maybe even less (one time per day) for your type of CPUs which do about 2 tasks a day:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=392182

You can see all the real communication in the Messages tab.
E.g.:

27-Jan-2011 13:51:22 [SETI@home] Started upload of 03se10ad.27346.141619.3.10.173.vlar_1_0
27-Jan-2011 13:51:30 [SETI@home] Finished upload of 03se10ad.27346.141619.3.10.173.vlar_1_0
27-Jan-2011 15:11:05 [SETI@home] Sending scheduler request: To report completed tasks.
27-Jan-2011 15:11:05 [SETI@home] Reporting 6 completed tasks, not requesting new tasks
27-Jan-2011 15:11:13 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed
27-Jan-2011 17:51:15 [SETI@home] Computation for task 03se10ad.27346.141619.3.10.162.vlar_0 finished
27-Jan-2011 17:51:15 [SETI@home] Starting 03se10ad.27346.141619.3.10.157.vlar_1
27-Jan-2011 17:51:15 [SETI@home] Starting task 03se10ad.27346.141619.3.10.157.vlar_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 603
27-Jan-2011 17:51:17 [SETI@home] Started upload of 03se10ad.27346.141619.3.10.162.vlar_0_0
27-Jan-2011 17:51:25 [SETI@home] Finished upload of 03se10ad.27346.141619.3.10.162.vlar_0_0
27-Jan-2011 22:15:35 [SETI@home] Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
27-Jan-2011 22:15:35 [SETI@home] Reporting 1 completed tasks, requesting new tasks
27-Jan-2011 22:15:38 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
27-Jan-2011 22:15:41 [SETI@home] Started download of 10oc10ab.26128.281308.5.10.247
27-Jan-2011 22:16:15 [SETI@home] Finished download of 10oc10ab.26128.281308.5.10.247

2946) Questions and Answers : Windows : Errors (Message 1071111)
Posted 27 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"boinc_graphics_make_shmem failed"
maybe you use the screensaver? (set it to (none))

2947) Questions and Answers : Windows : Constant network traffic - BOINC ignores "don't fetch new WU" (Message 1070891)
Posted 26 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have tried to uninstall BOINC, without deleting data. It has not changed the situation.

So BOINC is innocent - some other program is communicating (e.g. Skype, uTorrent, Bonjour http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonjour_(software) )
Or maybe you see the internal (in-the-computer, localhost) communication between BOINC Manager (boincmgr.exe) and boinc.exe ?


The second problem is that I would prefere to completely uninstall BOINC and data, but without loosing the workunits completed.

What do you mean?
Report completed tasks (press [Update]) before uninstalling.


For some reason BOINC ignores my setting of "don't fetch more Work units", but happily reports completed WUs and fetch more WU.

You have to press [No new tasks] for every project listed in Projects tab.

2948) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Maintain enough work for an additional (Message 1070886)
Posted 26 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Yes, I see you have "Number of tasks today 316"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=5429568

2949) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Maintain enough work for an additional (Message 1070811)
Posted 26 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Hand typed since it wouldn't let me copy/paste...


Click, [Shift]-Click to mark a few lines
then use the button (at the left) [Copy selected messages]

Try the [Update] again and post the messages from new BOINC

2950) Questions and Answers : Windows : "Waiting for memory" (Message 1070807)
Posted 26 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


"On multiprocessors, use at most: 4 processors" is old setting (not used in current BOINC)

"On multiprocessor systems, use at most XX% of the processors"
is the setting today

And you in fact use 1 core to 100% ("max CPUs used: 1")


"Use at most YY% of CPU time"
(Can be used to reduce CPU heat)

is the setting to use if you want e.g. 1 sec ON, 3 sec OFF (if set to 25%)
of all the cores (and 4 tasks running at the same time).

As you already use the local preferences change the settings
in BOINC Manager - not on the web site!


Try to clean the dust inside the computer.
Is this a laptop?

2951) Questions and Answers : Windows : "Waiting for memory" (Message 1070805)
Posted 26 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I don't see/feel any computer slowdown when the CPU is used 100% by low priority process
(even on my 500 MHz CPU)

2952) Questions and Answers : Windows : "Waiting for memory" (Message 1070760)
Posted 26 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

In your first screenshot - increase the

Memory usage
Use at most 40.00 % when computer is in use
to e.g. 70 %

(it is strange that Astropulse task wants 1.42 GB)

P.S.
Why do you have setting to use only one core of the 4 available?
"max CPUs used: 1"

2953) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Maintain enough work for an additional (Message 1070756)
Posted 26 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


You need about 40 tasks per day (400 for 10 days), now you have (maybe) ~60 (for 1.5 days)

Try to upgrade your BOINC version from 6.4.5 to 6.10.58
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

Try to set the WU cache to 10+10 days in local BOINC Manager Preferences
(Connect about + Additional)

Do you see 6 tasks running simultaneously?
What is the setting "Suspend work if CPU usage is above" (set it to 0 (zero)) (matters/exists in BOINC 6.10.58 but not in 6.4.5)

What are the messages after you press [Update] (on Projects tab)?
Post the relevant 5-10 lines from Messages tab.

2954) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Maintain enough work for an additional (Message 1070456)
Posted 25 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Check your local (in BOINC Manager) Preferences:









You have:
Average turnaround time 0.91 days
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5429568

Average turnaround time 1.05 days
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=5429568

which means you have/use about one day WU cache

2955) Questions and Answers : Getting started : creditos de equipos// Team credits (Message 1068930)
Posted 21 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

No

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Teams

"Total and average credit is accounted for teams, and reflects all work done by participants while they belong to the team (even if they later quit the team)."

2956) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Recapture problem (Updating profile) (Message 1068524)
Posted 20 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


It's Recaptcha - not 'Recapture'

(and I don't want to try re-edit my Profile)

http://www.google.com/recaptcha

Try to solve here:
http://www.google.com/recaptcha/learnmore

2957) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lunatics' Unified Installer (Optimized SETI) (Message 1066812)
Posted 15 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Screenshots (taken on Win XP, custom skin) from
Win32 Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.37

(release notes are at Message 1029244)











2958) Questions and Answers : Web site : Correcting the dead links ? (Message 1065687)
Posted 11 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_glossary/public_announcement.php

Dead:
"Declaration of Principles Concerning Activities Following the Detection of Extraterrestrial Intelligence"
http://www.seti.org/site/pp.asp?c=ktJ2J9MMIsE&b=179287

Google gives this as first result:
http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/D/Declar.html

2959) Questions and Answers : Web site : Correcting the dead links ? (Message 1065555)
Posted 11 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_glossary/gaussians.php

2 dead links

2960) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Very interesting question for me :) (Message 1065552)
Posted 11 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


There are billions of "signals" found:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sci_status.html

but they have to be checked against each other for Persistency:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ntpckr_faq.php
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ntpckr.php

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_forum.php?id=830
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60113

2961) Questions and Answers : Web site : Correcting the dead links ? (Message 1065541)
Posted 11 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

In:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_help.php

"The "unofficial" BOINC wiki - ..."

The link:
http://boinc-wiki.ath.cx/

leads to a "strange" place ;)

2962) Questions and Answers : Web site : Correcting the dead links ? (Message 1065539)
Posted 11 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

In:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_porting.php

"Where to get executables
Executable versions of BOINC and SETI@home for various platforms are here"

Dead link:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_other.php

2963) Questions and Answers : Web site : Application Restart? (Message 1065537)
Posted 11 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
1) BOINC does not continue to run after logging off.
2) The computer has restarted with and without my knowledge (blue screen error page comes up) quite a few times, and it hasn't happened before

Thanks :D


Check the Temperatures:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292

Do you overclock?

2964) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Very interesting question for me :) (Message 1065534)
Posted 11 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_glossary.php
http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/about_seti/about_seti_at_home_4.html
http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/screensaver/data_analysis.html

2965) Questions and Answers : Windows : My Trend Micro Office Scan reports TROJ_GEN.FA2CZLJ in BOINC file (Message 1065525)
Posted 11 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Uninstallers (removal tools) for common antivirus software:
http://kb.eset.com/esetkb/index?page=content&id=SOLN146

How to uninstall my Trend Micro program using the Trend Micro Diagnostic Toolkit:
http://esupport.trendmicro.com/1/How-do-I-remove-old-or-new-versions-of-Trend-Micro-products-in-my-comp.aspx

Compare ESET NOD32 to the Competition:
http://www.eset.com/home/compare-eset-to-competition

2966) Message boards : Number crunching : Help - cruncher does lots of work for no return (Message 1065177)
Posted 10 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The CPU however doesn't look to be much better, maybe an hour or two off its previous 16.


Usually the CPU app is 150-200% faster.
Did you choose SSE3 (AMD) app for CPU? (and not the default SSE (p3))

(Look in Windows Task Manager which app is running)

2967) Message boards : Number crunching : Reset Project (Message 1065089)
Posted 9 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Your first post:
"I have not been getting any work on my main crunching unit, I have 2. I hit update but I still do not get any WU's."

And now you say:
"Still no new work. Could it be my cache is full with SETI."!

So you have work.

If during the long SETI outage your computer did only Einstein@Home
now BOINC will pay-back (devote) time to SETI.

And don't expect things to happen "after 1/2 hr" - it may take days, weeks or months for work done to even between projects.

2968) Message boards : Number crunching : Very bad HDD performance while doing BOINC project backup (Message 1065080)
Posted 9 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

1) Do you copy from C: to C: or from C: to D: ?
Are C: & D: on the same physical disk (same physical RAID disk array)?

If so - from Option menu choose "Same HDD"
(for permanent change edit FastCopy.ini - disk_mode="1")

2) Use bigger Buffer

3) What is the difference in speed with antivirus Disabled?
What amount of data do you copy (GB, number of files)?

2969) Message boards : Number crunching : Very bad HDD performance while doing BOINC project backup (Message 1064712)
Posted 8 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thanks, but I would like to stay with FAR for routine operations.
Antivir not installed there so no slowdown from it.


OK, use FAR for routine operations (as I like to use Total Commander)
but why not just test what this little Japanese utility (FastCopy) can do?

If it makes 40MB/sec instead of 4MB/sec you may consider using it
when you copy BIG amount of data (e.g. > 1-2 GB).

2970) Message boards : Number crunching : GTX 460 (Message 1064706)
Posted 8 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Some games have Front-end .exe started by shortcut and used to set options
but when you press [Play] the Front-end starts another .exe and quits.

Check to see are there other .EXEs (not only cityofheroes.exe) in the game directory
and add <exclusive_gpu_app>XXXXXXXXXX.exe</exclusive_gpu_app> for them also.

2971) Message boards : Number crunching : Very bad HDD performance while doing BOINC project backup (Message 1064609)
Posted 8 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:


I did some tests on single IDE HDD Hitachi 80 GB, Win XP, 1 GB RAM

I made a temp directory TT with 32 copies of BOINC-Data directory in it (= 1.14 GB total)
and tested to copy TT directory to another empty directory.




Results:
Explorer (copy/paste)    3:26
Total Commander (128 MB) 3:34
xcopy (from CMD line)    3:05
FastCopy (128 MB buffer) 2:13



Conditions:

Total Commander is set for 128 MB buffer but it do not use/create it (according to Windows Task Manager memory usage)
unless a big enough file is copied (obviously files are copied one by one and not many-read/many-write)






Get FastCopy (236 KB .zip) (it reads many files to fill the buffer and then writes)
http://ipmsg.org/tools/fastcopy.html.en





Set the Shell options:




and then use Right-drag to copy:





Note:
As you know some antivirus programs may considerably slow the copy.

I use NOD32, with real-time antivirus protection Disabled the copy is about 50% faster:



(There are (real, not in slots) 160 *.exe & 32 *.dll files in TT directory)


You may try for test to Disable the real-time antivirus protection before copy.

2972) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Time in Berkeley (What the heck are they doing now?) (Message 1064551)
Posted 8 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Another site for Time in Berkeley, California

http://24timezones.com/usa_time/ca_alameda/berkeley.htm

2973) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC 6.12.26 released to public (Message 1064538)
Posted 8 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Just happened to me (on BOINC 6.10.58) what they will try to avoid in 6.12.XX

08.01.2011 04:19:43 SETI@home Computation for task 19se10ad.25299.18228.15.10.62_0 finished
08.01.2011 04:19:44 SETI@home Starting 19se10ad.25299.18228.15.10.47_1
08.01.2011 04:19:44 SETI@home Starting task 19se10ad.25299.18228.15.10.47_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 603
08.01.2011 04:19:46 SETI@home Started upload of 19se10ad.25299.18228.15.10.62_0_0
08.01.2011 04:19:46 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
08.01.2011 04:19:46 SETI@home Requesting new tasks
08.01.2011 04:19:49 SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 3 new tasks
08.01.2011 04:19:49 SETI@home Message from server: No work can be sent for the applications you have selected
08.01.2011 04:19:49 SETI@home Message from server: No work is available for Astropulse v505
08.01.2011 04:19:49 SETI@home Message from server: Your preferences allow work from applications other than those selected
08.01.2011 04:19:49 SETI@home Message from server: Sending work from other applications
08.01.2011 04:19:50 SETI@home Finished upload of 19se10ad.25299.18228.15.10.62_0_0
08.01.2011 04:19:51 SETI@home Started download of 03se10ab.13445.16427.15.10.4
08.01.2011 04:19:51 SETI@home Started download of 03se10ab.13445.16427.15.10.10
08.01.2011 04:19:56 SETI@home Finished download of 03se10ab.13445.16427.15.10.4
08.01.2011 04:19:56 SETI@home Finished download of 03se10ab.13445.16427.15.10.10
08.01.2011 04:19:56 SETI@home Started download of 03se10ab.13445.16427.15.10.50
08.01.2011 04:20:01 SETI@home Finished download of 03se10ab.13445.16427.15.10.50
08.01.2011 04:24:55 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
08.01.2011 04:24:55 SETI@home Reporting 1 completed tasks, requesting new tasks
08.01.2011 04:24:58 SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks

2974) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC 6.12.26 released to public (Message 1064535)
Posted 8 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Upload happens immediately after task is finished (if not "project back-off")
Report can be delayed up to 24 hours (if BOINC is "calm" (not in a deadline hurry))

2975) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC 6.12.26 released to public (Message 1064502)
Posted 8 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
- client: work fetch: if the chosen project is currently uploading a file, and an upload started in the last 5 min, don't fetch work from it. The goal is to merge the 2 scheduler RPCs (fetch work, report completed taskS) into a single RPC. Note: this may result in idleness in some cases.

I don't like this - I imagine that some of the Top hosts can generate ready-to-upload tasks faster (e.g. every 3 minutes).
If the uploads are going slow the next task will be ready-to-upload before the first is finished uploading, etc...

There have to be another check, e.g. counter set at 30 minutes at first occurrence of this (repeating, overlapping) condition
and if the counter goes to 0 (zero) do scheduler RPCs (no matter if there are still "young" uploads).

Edit:
Or better check if counter < 2 minutes and do scheduler RPCs
so the counter will not be reset again to 30 minutes by the next new upload.

2976) Questions and Answers : Windows : My Trend Micro Office Scan reports TROJ_GEN.FA2CZLJ in BOINC file (Message 1063943)
Posted 6 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Another "False Positive" problems (different projects and antiviruses)

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=61835&nowrap=true#1047504
http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/forum_thread.php?id=8566
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60922&nowrap=true
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59744&nowrap=true


Send the link to the file to Trend Micro and ask them to analyze the file:
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setiathome_6.03_windows_intelx86.exe

2977) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU units all error (Message 1062542)
Posted 1 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60674&nowrap=true#1014235

2978) Message boards : Number crunching : Happy New Year from Moscow ! (Message 1062492)
Posted 1 Jan 2011 by Profile BilBg
Post:
EDIT: Was just reading this: "Since 24 December (Julian calendar) is 6 January (Gregorian calendar), some people claim that the Eastern Orthodox celebrate Christmas in the 6th of January. But that's not correct: They too celebrate Christmas on 25 December."

"Eastern Orthodox" is not one and the same thing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas#Orthodox_Christian_Churches

"Eastern Orthodox" Russia celebrate Christmas (eve) on the 6th of January
but e.g. "Eastern Orthodox" Bulgaria - on 24 December

2979) Message boards : Number crunching : Why is the 'new' credit system still erratic. (Message 1059751)
Posted 26 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Yes, it's slightly unfair to those who use anonymous platform ethically. But as was thoroughly proven by S@H Classic there's a minority who get too competitive for credits and will cheat if possible. So BOINC always mistrusts anything a user can change.

Even with the best of intentions, there are things users may do which make the credit calculations deviate quite a bit. One example is shifting from doing one WU at a time on a Fermi GPU to doing more. Shifting from 1 to 3, for instance, might extend the elapsed times by about 2.5 times which would increase the claimed credit by the same factor until the server-side averages adapted.
                                                                Joe


Wait so doing more work is 'cheating'? ...
(... and more misunderstanding of Josef W. Segur's words)


Josef W. Segur only said deviate (NO word "cheating" in last paragraph)

"So BOINC always mistrusts anything a user can change" means:
using Anonymous platform every programmer can get the open source of the app,
change it so it claims (very) big credits, compile it, create app_info.xml
and use the app for cheating the credit system
if the credit is calculated by just average of claimed credits.

E.g. "normal" (fair) user of Anonymous platform (optimized app) claims 100
and the cheating user of Anonymous platform claims 100 000 000 credits
the average will be 50 000 050

So the decision was to use just the minimum claim (100 in this case)

The stock app as delivered to BOINC in binary (executable) form can't be changed
(patched, cracked) by the user (or programmer) as it have signature (checksum) protection
so it is more trusted.


Edit:
Obviously I have to write faster and not deviate ;)
- Josef W. Segur made his position clear meanwhile

2980) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Add Astropulse v5.05 web preference (Message 1059739)
Posted 26 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You obviously was not here in the last year or so -
Astropulse v5.05 WUs exist for more than a year
but the setting for Astropulse v5.05 in SETI@home preferences
was added 2 days after my post (many others asked for this in the past year)
(the setting was not existent on 15 Dec 2010)

2981) Message boards : Number crunching : Is this right? (Message 1058596)
Posted 22 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Does it really take that long to crunch the numbers?

Read "How SETI@home works":
http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/about_seti/about_seti_at_home_1.html

At the time of Classic SETI it was:
"... grand total of slightly more than 275 billion operations on the 107 seconds of data."

Now it's more - I see at one of my tasks:
Flopcounter: 31967898008831.797000
= 31 967 898 008 831 = 31 967 billion operations

2982) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Problem with BOINC 6.10.56 and CUDA (Message 1058594)
Posted 22 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You use the Development version
BOINC version 6.12.4

- then update to the latest Development version 6.12.8
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

2983) Questions and Answers : Windows : no new task? (Message 1058590)
Posted 22 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You can't do the test while servers are Disabled!
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html

Try when most of them are green.

If you want help please don't interpret the Messages in your own words -
Post ~20-30 lines copied from Messages tab around the errored attempt to communicate.
(best is to restart BOINC, [Retry] upload, [Update] and post all the first ~50 lines)

Post also the contents of your cc_config.xml
And where exactly is "in BOINC directory"? (copy/paste the path here)

(if you do not need help and can fix it yourself - don't pay attention to my post)

2984) Questions and Answers : Windows : Mi BOINC no funciona! (Message 1058022)
Posted 20 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global

Check the setting:
Suspend work if CPU usage is above --- %

(set it to 0 (zero))

2985) Message boards : Number crunching : reschedule (V1.9) will not work with new Bonic installations (Message 1057543)
Posted 18 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

That's not news - it is in the Release notes (28 Aug 2010):

http://lunatics.kwsn.net/
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/15-optimized-applications-release-news/windows-installer-0-37-release.msg30749.html;topicseen#msg30749

" Updated Unified Installers, v0.37 for Windows
...
Known Issues:
- Not Compatible with Marius' Rescheduler 1.9.
...
"
2986) Questions and Answers : Web site : Account problems - Can't remember email (Message 1056717)
Posted 16 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Now detach any computer you attached to the new (Credit: 0) account
(I think Power Macintosh was/is attached)
and attach it again to the old (Credit: 10,646) account.

2987) Message boards : Number crunching : reschedule CPU WUs -> ATI (Message 1056663)
Posted 16 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Restart BOINC and post the first 30-40 lines from the Messages tab

2988) Message boards : Number crunching : reschedule CPU WUs -> ATI (Message 1056656)
Posted 16 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
On test it shows GPU 3 after reschedule but after i hit run i still had 0 ?


Where do you see 0 ATI GPU AP tasks?
Post again the Debug log from the Log tab.

How many SETI tasks at all do you see in Tasks tab in BOINC Manager (approximately - e.g. 10 or 300)?

(Reschedule (any program) will only change the type of tasks you already have on-board,
it can't change what is downloaded in the future)

2989) Questions and Answers : Web site : Account problems - Can't remember email (Message 1056640)
Posted 16 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


You last used the old account:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=511961

not too long ago (11 May 2009)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?sort=rpc_time&rev=0&show_all=1&userid=511961

1) You can just try every email address you used in the past 10 years

2) If this computer (or any of the 5 computers used with the old account) still exist (HDD not erased):
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+
NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT (1023MB)
Linux 2.6.28-11-generic

find the file:
account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml

and use the found inside:
<authenticator>1111122222333334444455555xxxxx</authenticator>

to enter (Log-in) the old account.

2990) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU/CPU Usage (Message 1056627)
Posted 16 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Which .exe shows this (big) CPU usage oscillation (in Windows Task Manager)?

It is normal for the science app's .exe CPU usage to fluctuate if you selected:
Use at most 50% of CPU time

As the process runs at low priority you can't "feel" this CPU usage, can you?

OTOH, it's not normal for boinc*.exe to use more than 1-5% CPU if you happen to see this regularly.

2991) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU/CPU Usage (Message 1056467)
Posted 16 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

On the HOME page under ABOUT there are links:
About SETI@home
About Astropulse

At the bottom of this page are the settings to choose which of them to run:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

Mind the last setting:
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? yes/no

2992) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Add Astropulse v5.05 web preference (Message 1056461)
Posted 16 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Suggestion how the default for Astropulse v5.05 to be set

If these 3 settings are all set (by the user) to no:
Astropulse: no
Astropulse v5: no
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? no

Then Set Astropulse v5.05 no

Else Set Astropulse v5.05 yes

2993) Questions and Answers : Windows : Need help uninstalling without loosing data (Message 1056403)
Posted 15 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


When you have app_info.xml file (in the project directory) (in this case created by Lunatics' Unified Installer)
this is reported as 'Anonymous platform' on the web pages.
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Anonymous_platform

See my host:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=4832843

2994) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Add Astropulse v5.05 web preference (Message 1056390)
Posted 15 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Isn't it time to add Astropulse v5.05 in SETI@home preferences?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

Somebody with close connections to the people in the lab - please suggest it to them.

(e.g. some "new" members don't understand/know the lack of such switch and complain "I get astropulse units even when preferences are set to not have AP work")
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62356

2995) Message boards : Number crunching : Can I pull work units from another computer ? (Message 1056069)
Posted 14 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You have 4 computers attached to SETI:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=9367368

2 of them now have SETI tasks 'In progress'

2996) Message boards : Number crunching : More CPUs (Message 1056061)
Posted 14 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


The setting (if you edited all the 6 places)
<coproc>
<type>CUDA</type>
<count>0.5</count>
</coproc>

have nothing to do with CPU - it is for GPU

So you have to see 8 CPU and 2 GPU (enabled by <count>0.5</count>)
tasks running simultaneously.

2997) Questions and Answers : Windows : Need help uninstalling without loosing data (Message 1056055)
Posted 14 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Yes, it seems that your CUDA is working OK now:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5632335&offset=0&show_names=0&state=2&appid=

And you are using the latest opt CUDA app (from Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.37)
Lunatics_x32f_win32_cuda30_preview.exe
Multibeam x32f Preview, Cuda 3.0
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1740897119

2998) Questions and Answers : Windows : no new task? (Message 1056029)
Posted 14 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Did you try today to [Update] (button in Projects tab) or to [Retry Now] (button in Transfers tab).

Do you really have tasks in Upload state?

Post ~20-30 lines from Messages tab around the errored attempt to communicate.

But if all of your Computers:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?sort=rpc_time&rev=0&show_all=1&userid=25600

are unsuccessfully trying to connect through the same Internet line
the problem obviously is somewhere on the Internet line and not in the computer.

2999) Questions and Answers : Windows : Accidently clicked on sort by application (Message 1056011)
Posted 14 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I sort by Progress - that way all started tasks are at the top and all un-started are sorted by FIFO (after at least 1 task finishes (or is reported?))

3000) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATI RADEON GPU processing for OSX? (Message 1056006)
Posted 14 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Ask Raistmer
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62190

3001) Questions and Answers : Getting started : How would signal look like? (Message 1055990)
Posted 14 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

This is Triplet on your picture:
SETI@home: Glossary of Terms

There is huge amount of such "signals" found so far:
Science status page

More (somehow old but interesting) info:
How SETI@home works

It is useless to try to catch "a signal" by looking on the screen saver (most of us don't use it at all) - it is just pretty pictures (colors don't mean anything)

Mind also this:
SETI@home: Procedures for Public Announcement

"... It is important that participants in the SETI@home project do not get excited when they see signals on their screen and go off on their own making announcements and calling the press. This could be very damaging to the project. ..."

3002) Questions and Answers : Windows : Need help uninstalling without loosing data (Message 1055716)
Posted 13 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You CUDA tasks are all in error:

Error tasks for computer 5632335
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5632335&offset=0&show_names=1&state=5&appid=

That's why you are allowed to get only 1 task per day:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=5632335

(until your GPU is able to correctly compute at least 1 task)

3003) Questions and Answers : Preferences : about seti propreties (Message 1055626)
Posted 13 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


In Projects tab -> select SETI@home -> press [Allow new tasks] button (at the left)

P.S.
All of us can't get new tasks for now (we have to wait 5-10 hours) - they (SETI) have trouble with broken hard disk, they will replace it Monday morning Berkeley time:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59274

disk failure on worf (the raw data storage server)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62193&nowrap=true#1055515

3004) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC manager status is "suspended by user", how to remove? (Message 1055375)
Posted 12 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Look in Activity menu

3005) Message boards : Number crunching : Odd Error Mesage in BOINC (Message 1054693)
Posted 10 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


In fact I tried to ask "is there a check in the box in front of Automatic mode ... or not"?

(if there is a check the timer starts to countdown immediately)

3006) Message boards : Number crunching : Odd Error Mesage in BOINC (Message 1054685)
Posted 10 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
1) The app chosen is "none"; the 3 choices are: 6.08.cuda, 6.09.cuda23 and 6.10.cuda_fermi.

Choose 6.08.cuda and see if it will remedy the "discarding"


Also: Yes, my BOINC was again restarted after 4 hours (9:07 EST) despite having no timer set in 2.3 Rescheduler;

So you see this in the Settings tab?:





3007) Message boards : Number crunching : Odd Error Mesage in BOINC (Message 1054677)
Posted 10 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It shouldn't matter what plan class You use for cuda work, they all point to the same exe: Lunatics_x32f_win32_cuda30_preview.exe.
It is just a matter of taste if your card runs cuda_fermi or cuda.


Yes - it doesn't matter but only if the tasks are marked (in client_state.xml) as one of these 3 combinations:
6.08.cuda
6.09.cuda23
6.10.cuda_fermi

But why the discarded tasks are marked 6.10.cuda (impossible combination - and it is not normally found in app_info.xml)

I don't know if the Fred's BOINC Rescheduler reads the info from app_info.xml
or only from client_state.xml and where is the genesis of 6.10 + cuda ???

3008) Questions and Answers : Web site : Donations to SETI (Message 1054662)
Posted 10 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


The same (OK) in:

Google Chrome 7.0.517.44






Firefox 3.6.11
Firefox 3.6.13 (I tried again after I just updated from 3.6.11):





3009) Questions and Answers : Web site : Donations to SETI (Message 1054634)
Posted 10 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I tried to reach the page from Opera - No problem (and Vista is not updated for ~2 years - no SP1, no SP2)











3010) Message boards : Number crunching : Not connecting and getting units to work (Message 1054623)
Posted 10 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

BOINC Manager -> Tools -> Attach...(to project) -> SETI@home -> Yes, existing user

Enter (copy/paste) the same "Email address" as you see it in Your account:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/home.php

(Case of letters matters! Copy/paste - don't type!
e.g. Abc@Xyz.com & abc@xyz.com are considered different here, at project accounts
)
3011) Message boards : Number crunching : Application: Ghost Detector - find out how big your Ghost Army is (Message 1054606)
Posted 10 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


One more optimization comes to mind (if you are willing to continue the development)
that will minimize page requests - act with the presumption that most probably there are NO ghosts:
// Set initial Offset to the number of Tasks On Board
if (TasksOnBoard > 0)
   Offset = TasksOnBoard - 1;
else
   Offset = 0;


Try the page at that Offset - it will most probably have 1 task.
But if it's "full of stars" ;) , pardon, full of tasks - execute the "old" algorithm.

3012) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU units all error (Message 1054593)
Posted 10 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Something made (temporarily) the GPU or NVIDIA driver unusable for CUDA

What did you do at this moment?

Game?
Remote Desktop (to this computer from outside)?
Or NVIDIA driver crashed because of heat or too high overclock?

(anything "strange" you can remember happening on this computer at the "bad" moment)

3013) Message boards : Number crunching : Odd Error Mesage in BOINC (Message 1054589)
Posted 10 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


What app is chosen here (in the red box):





Choose 6.08, CUDA (I don't know what exactly is shown in this list - there have to be 3 choices in your case)


Also, the BOINC Manager seems to be restarting every 3 hours, causing the same errors and results to occur...what the H is going on?

You set BOINC Rescheduler to act automatically every 3 hours, check in the Settings tab.

3014) Message boards : Number crunching : AstroPulse vs Setiathome (Message 1054571)
Posted 10 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Astropulse FAQ:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ap_faq.php

How SETI@home works (some of the info is old, but it's fun to read)
http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/about_seti/about_seti_at_home_1.html

3015) Message boards : Number crunching : Low CPU usage - can only use 25% (Message 1054555)
Posted 10 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I searched my entire hard drive for cc_config.xml and did not find it.

No need to search the entire hard drive - in your case if there is active (used by BOINC) cc_config.xml file it has to be in:
12/9/2010 9:47:36 PM Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC


I just killed BOINC in Task Manager ...

Not good thing, as it can happen just in the moment when boinc.exe writes to disk the very important client_state.xml file (usually every minute).

Instead use from BOINC Manager -> Advanced menu -> Shut down connected client ...


And if (out of nowhere ;) ) all is working, maybe it's time to go optimized:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54288&nowrap=true#1029244
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9

I think for Core i5 the best app to choose in the installer is SSSE3
- will be 150-200% faster than the stock app.

3016) Message boards : Number crunching : Low CPU usage - can only use 25% (Message 1054458)
Posted 10 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


So the problem seams to be only in something BOINC related.

Let see what it says - restart BOINC and post the first 40-50 lines from Messages tab.

Do you have cc_config.xml file in BOINC Data directory (C:\ProgramData\BOINC)?
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration

Especially:
<ncpus>N</ncpus>
Act as if there were N CPUs; i.e. to simulate 2 CPUs on a machine that has only 1. To use the number of available CPUs, set the value to -1


It looks like BOINC runs all 4 tasks in the same core?!

4 tasks * 6% = ~ 25% CPU = 1 full core


Do you use something like Process Lasso?:
http://www.bitsum.com/prolasso.php

3017) Message boards : Number crunching : Low CPU usage - can only use 25% (Message 1054378)
Posted 9 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


If you run something like IntelBurnTest (runs also on AMD, I used it on K6-2+ @ 524 MHz, Win2000)
http://www.ultimate-filez.com/?page=downloads
http://www.ultimate-filez.com/files/IntelBurnTest.zip

... will it use the CPU ~100% ?

(If it is at ~100% - try to change the priority of the running LinPack process to Low to see what happens.

Edit: I tried but was unable to change the priority :( (it is somehow locked)
But it's possible when using older version:
http://www.ultimate-filez.com/forum/showthread.php?s=d6c7d4549000718069f6a49c24749aad&t=9

IntelBurnTest v1.92:
http://www.ultimate-filez.com/files/IntelBurnTest-Legacy.zip
)

(run the test with NO SETI/BOINC running)


Check also in the BIOS for some "Thermal protection" setting.

3018) Message boards : Number crunching : Low CPU usage - can only use 25% (Message 1054351)
Posted 9 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do you use TThrottle or some "Power plan" which makes "Power savings"?

What is the CPU temperature?
Temperature Monitoring Programs

3019) Message boards : Number crunching : Low CPU usage - can only use 25% (Message 1054341)
Posted 9 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:





3020) Message boards : Number crunching : Odd Error Mesage in BOINC (Message 1054312)
Posted 9 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Can you post also the app_info.xml found in the oldApp_backup folder?
(I hope it will be the version you used with v0.36 but this will be the case if you installed v0.37 only once)

The original error message look strange:
12/9/2010 9:07:35 AM SETI@home [error] No application found for task: windows_intelx86 610 cuda; discarding

It have to be:
12/9/2010 9:07:35 AM SETI@home [error] No application found for task: windows_intelx86 610 cuda_fermi; discarding

_____

At first glance your current app_info.xml looks almost OK.

The only thing I don't like is that you selected SSE3 Intel and not SSE3 AMD

<name>AK_v8b_win_x64_SSE3.exe</name>

It has to be
<name>AK_v8b_win_SSE3_AMD.exe</name>

To remedy - re-install the Win64 Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.37 and select SSE3 AMD
(don't forget to select CUDA also)

It doesn't matter is the app 32 or 64 bit, what matters is which is faster (and compatible).

(if they include the 32 bit AK_v8b_win_SSE3_AMD.exe in the Win64 Installer this means they tested it and found this app to be faster for AMD CPUs even on 64 bit Windows.
There is no such thing as "32 bit SSE" or "64 bit SSE" - only the integer instructions are 32 or 64 bit.
)

3021) Message boards : Number crunching : New rescheduler (Message 1054295)
Posted 9 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


I think Fred forgot to announce the new versions:


V 2.3 (21.09.2010)

Add: Delete "lost" files, workunits or results.


V 2.4 (18.10.2010)

Fixed: The VLAR and VHAR count after rescheduling wasn't always correct, after scheduling from the GPU to the CPU. This didn't effect the actual scheduling.

http://www.efmer.eu/forum_tt/index.php?topic=428.0

3022) Message boards : Number crunching : Odd Error Mesage in BOINC (Message 1054284)
Posted 9 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Post your app_info.xml using [pre] ... [/pre] tags (for easy reading - retains formatting/indent):
[pre]
... {post contents of app_info.xml here} ...
[/pre]

I think you played with installing both the old v0.36 and the new v0.37 of the Lunatics' Unified Installer.

Going from v0.36 to v0.37 is OK but not backwards (v0.37 -> v0.36)

v0.37 can mark tasks as 6.08, 6.09 or 6.10 (all done by the same app so it doesn't matter what version the tasks are marked)
but v0.36 marks CUDA tasks as only 6.08 so if you go back (v0.37 -> v0.36) all 6.09 or 6.10 CUDA tasks may be discarded (deleted).
(v0.36 re-marks 6.09 to 6.08 but I don't remember will it re-mark 6.10 to 6.08)

Also I see you are using the Fred's new BOINC Rescheduler:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60712
http://www.efmer.eu/forum_tt/index.php?topic=428.0

Do you use the last version (BoincRescheduler V 2.4)?

(Or if you use the old ReSchedule 1.9 - don't! It is incompatible with Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.37)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54288&nowrap=true#1029244

3023) Message boards : Number crunching : Only CUDA new work???? (Message 1053975)
Posted 8 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
But if the host asks for both GPU and CPU work (in the same request),
I think it's the scheduler that then marks them as one or the other and decides which work request to fill when they are assigned to a host and sent.


We'll wait for Richard Haselgrove and/or Josef W. Segur to shed some light on how the (server) scheduler decides on that matter ... :)

3024) Message boards : Number crunching : Only CUDA new work???? (Message 1053962)
Posted 8 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


I don't think the tasks splitters produce are marked CUDA or CPU -
only after you (or anybody) ask for particular type of tasks
(and successfully get them) they are "marked" accordingly.

(The task (WU) file is the same for CUDA or CPU, only the info about it in client_state.xml is different.
If you look how Reschedulers work to "move" tasks CPU <--> GPU you will see
that only the client_state.xml is changed - not the tasks/WUs files.
)

3025) Message boards : Number crunching : Reduce CPU usage from NV cuda23 application ? (Message 1053945)
Posted 8 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... Getting the installation procedure wrong can lead to loss of cache. (Though with resend lost task enabled on the server you might get them back)


I don't think that if the tasks error out they will be resent.

The way to get the Lunatics' Unified Installer installation procedure wrong is to choose wrong apps
(e.g. selecting SSSE3 on a CPU that do not support it - Core i7 supports SSSE3 but Pentium 4 (I think) not)




(the above picture is from the previous (v0.36) version of the installer -
the new (current) version v0.37 will look slightly different)

v0.36 screen-shots:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54288&nowrap=true#994550

v0.37 info:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54288&nowrap=true#1029244


The easy way is to use CPU-Z before the installation to see what is the max SSE level the CPU supports.

3026) Message boards : Number crunching : CPU upgrade advice needed.................... (Message 1053552)
Posted 7 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You have spaces in the link (they have to be %20)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007671%20600005851&IsNodeId=1&name=LGA%20775

3027) Message boards : Number crunching : Oscar is online... (Message 1053551)
Posted 7 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

They may put this photo of Oscar-the-Cat next to the Oscar-the-Server in the lab
if you PM them the idea :)

3028) Message boards : Number crunching : Invalid Results (Message 1053196)
Posted 5 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... So I will assume that I never did the work units ...


Yes - all the numbers/letters have to be the same (e.g. 06jn10ai.9369.146761.14.10.252_0).
Think of it as phone number - if just one digit is different - it is different number.

P.S.
Now you don't have more Ghosts but if you want to read something about them:
Application: Ghost Detector - find out how big your Ghost Army is
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=61519

ded1o1:
"
What is a Ghost?
· A BOINC Ghost is a Work Unit that the server has assigned to you but you did not receive any notification that it has done so, thus you can not download and crunch it.
· Each BOINC Ghost will eventually time out (in a month or so). When this happens:
o It will be reported on your Error Tasks page with a status of Timed out - no response.
o It will set your Consecutive valid tasks counter to zero.
o If your Max tasks per day is over 100 then it will be set to 99 otherwise it will be further reduced by one.
o The space it is taking on the server can then be freed; it can then be assigned to another cruncher which will bring your wingman a little closer to getting their credit.

How are Ghosts created?
· You request work from the server.
· The server prepares a reply which lists the Work Units it has assigned to you but due to high server/network load you do not receive that reply;
· Because you (the client) do not have to acknowledge this reply - which is used to inform you about Work Units just assigned to you - the server has no way of knowing you did not receive it,
the server simply assumes you've been informed about your new work so thus Ghosts are created.
"

P.P.S.
Just noticed - this is my post Number 666 ;)
... and it's about Ghosts ... ;()

3029) Message boards : Number crunching : Application: Ghost Detector - find out how big your Ghost Army is (Message 1053191)
Posted 5 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I've fixed the bug but because it will only occur for Hosts with no work on board, nothing "in progress" and thus no Ghosts I'm going to delay posting the new version until I have thoroughly tested it under every condition I can think of.


To speed up testing you can post new versions (very small .zip with GhostDet.exe only)
as "Beta - For bug testing only" (along with the previous "Final" releases).

This way some of us will contribute in testing.

3030) Message boards : Number crunching : Where we've been (Message 1053171)
Posted 5 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... But why did the line start to climb so relentlessly from April 2009?


Faster and (even) faster computers attached?
For the same WU cache (e.g. 1 day) they need more tasks on board?
Big (GPU) crunchers set for big (20 days) cache?

3031) Message boards : Number crunching : Invalid Results (Message 1053169)
Posted 5 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Yes, thanks, I forgot about this file.

"... which is easier to search": I didn't mean "manual" (look and see) search
- by "search" I mean: use the search function of the editor/viewer (Notepad, WordPad, ...)
- Search..., Find..., Ctrl-F, F3, toolbar button, ...

3032) Message boards : Number crunching : Invalid Results (Message 1053158)
Posted 5 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... I will see what happens. If the credits are lost, nothing I can do. Just hope the data is not :)
...
P.S. I forgot to mention, these work units are all Cuda (just so you know it only takes minutes, not hours to complete) and show up under Error.



You can't expect to get credit for tasks which never reached your computer.

If you still think that you computed them - search in stdoutdae.txt and in stdoutdae.old
for their names (e.g. search for 14ja10ab.5057.15200.4.10.236_0)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5541591&offset=0&show_names=1&state=5&appid=

You have to see lines similar to:
XX-Mmm-2010 13:03:20 [SETI@home] Starting 14ja10ab.5057.15200.4.10.236_0
XX-Mmm-2010 13:03:20 [SETI@home] Starting task 14ja10ab.5057.15200.4.10.236_0 using setiathome_enhanced version XXX

If you don't see such lines you never computed this task!

3033) Message boards : Number crunching : Application: Ghost Detector - find out how big your Ghost Army is (Message 1053151)
Posted 5 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


When task count is 0 : 0 (On-board : 'In Progress')
the page at offset=0 is requested ~10 times (tried on orbit@home)
(until "endless loop prevention if more than 15 Result pages requested" kicks in)

Consider adding code similar to:
int OffsetPrev = -1;
...
if (Offset == OffsetPrev)
   break;
else
   OffsetPrev = Offset;


3034) Message boards : Number crunching : Need Help With BOINC (6.10.56) and Resource Share 0 (Message 1052967)
Posted 4 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I wonder what will be if I attach to 2 projects (only) - both with Resource share 0

Will BOINC divide by zero? ;)
(0 / (0 + 0))

3035) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc queue and work for additional ?? (Message 1052965)
Posted 4 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Connect every X is default, .1 days.
Maintain additional is 1 day.

With the few SETI WU and resends I have been playing with it. It definitely downloads 1 day for each project.

Perhaps as someone suggested, the older version is different.

I suppose I should update but, it runs fine and I have found no reason to do so.


I think all BOINC versions (try to) do it the same way -
- the days you set are the total work for all projects

But if BOINC miscalculates the estimated duration of the tasks
it can get huge amount of work (sometimes impossible to complete in time)

(e.g. BOINC thinks that your computer can do a task in 30 minutes but in fact it takes 8 hours/task -
in this case (with 1 day WU cache set in preferences) BOINC can erroneously get 16 days work.
)

3036) Message boards : Number crunching : Application: Ghost Detector - find out how big your Ghost Army is (Message 1052955)
Posted 4 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
For some unknown reason I can't get the GhostDet Installer v105.zip (stays at "Processing download request...")

Thanks for letting me know BilBg, looks like it must have been a transient download problem there at MediaFire because the installer downloaded in under 15 seconds when I tested it a few minutes ago.


Yes, the Installer downloads OK now :) (same computer & browser)

(yesterday I tried 5-6 times during 1-2 hours - every time the Installer download failed to start but the small .zip download was OK (2 times))

3037) Message boards : Number crunching : Application: Ghost Detector - find out how big your Ghost Army is (Message 1052685)
Posted 3 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


For some unknown reason I can't get the GhostDet Installer v105.zip (stays at "Processing download request...")
(I successfully get GhostDet v105.zip)


( Even if the small .zip works for somebody now he may need the Installer later.

It happened to me - the (small) GhostDet v103.zip worked months ago both on Win98 & Vista computers
but after some time (1-2 months) it refused to start complaining of missing components (MSINET.OCX)
(obviously after I installed/uninstalled other programs which use the same components)

Now I installed GhostDet Installer v103.zip to put the missing components in place (which go in \Windows\SYSTEM\ or \Windows\SYSTEM32\)
and then extracted the GhostDet v105.zip to the ...\GhostDet\ directory replacing the v103 files with v105 files (only GhostDet.exe & GhostDet.pdf are different (new)).
)

3038) Message boards : Technical News : Oscar Building (Nov 30 2010) (Message 1052405)
Posted 2 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Full size photo (2048 x 1536) (click on picture):





http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/~mattl/closet_done.jpg

3039) Message boards : Number crunching : Invalid Results (Message 1052400)
Posted 2 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Status / Credit (Nov 03 2010)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=61943

Matt Lebofsky:
"... I just turned on the file delete/database purge processes, but only *after* granting all pertinent credit to users/hosts/teams (regardless of overdue/wingman status). ..."

3040) Questions and Answers : Windows : "message from server, project has no tasks available" (Message 1052264)
Posted 1 Dec 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

soluciono? - Read!

3041) Message boards : Number crunching : Script for disabling/enabling GPUs on the fly (Message 1052027)
Posted 30 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


You write the script for yourself and give it out free to be used by advanced users so I'm not complaining.
(I downloaded the script just of curiosity to see how it's written - I can't use it - I have no modern GPUs to be used for computing)

Just a few things (you know them for certain) which can make the script more user friendly for a non-programmer
(which don't feel comfortable editing scripts):


1) If it's possible for a JScript to read the registry you can get both BOINC dirs automatically:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley\BOINC Setup]
"INSTALLDIR"="D:\\Programs.98\\Science\\BOINC\\"
"DATADIR"="D:\\Programs.98\\Science\\BOINC-Data\\"

( so it will be no need for the script file to be in BOINC Data dir
and no need for the line:
var strBOINCDir = "D:\\Sensitive data programs\\BOINC";
)


2) You say "it may get automated too, but I decided to leave it to be added manually":
var strGUIRPCpasswd = "a24ab662ab245ba245eb270bc7e7c9fd";
- but it will be better if the script get it from gui_rpc_auth.cfg

(the purpose of your script is to avoid manual editing of cc_config.xml
but people will need to edit the script every time you release new version)


3) If cc_config.xml do not exist - create it (containing the 4 lines you posted)


4) Check that the script runs in BOINC Data dir by existence (or absence) of client_state.xml


5) Instead of just:
if(oArguments.length == 0){
	WScript.Echo("No arguments given.");
	WScript.Quit();
}


... present some help. e.g.:
if(oArguments.length == 0){
	WScript.Echo("No arguments given. (No changes to cc_config.xml will be made)");
	WScript.Echo("Use on the command line:");
	WScript.Echo("/i:0    to Disable GPU #0");
	WScript.Echo("/i:1    to Disable GPU #1");
	WScript.Echo("/i:1,2  to Disable GPUs #1 and #2");
	WScript.Echo("/s      to Enable All GPUs");
	WScript.Echo("/d:5000 to set Delay of 5 sec before restart of BOINC core client (boinc.exe)");
	WScript.Echo("/n      to Not restart BOINC core client (boinc.exe) (you have to restart it manually)");
	WScript.Quit();
}


(I don't write JScripts and don't know if multiple WScript.Echo() have to be used or one with e.g. "XXX\n YYY\n ..." for string (text) to be shown on multiple lines)


6) Make backup of cc_config.xml before any changes are made.

3042) Questions and Answers : Windows : no new task? (Message 1051826)
Posted 29 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
My computer does not connect to SETI...
(since 11 October)
We have firewall, but it does not report any malfunction...
The connections have normal finish and exit.
I have ~20 tasks what I can not upload, and since then I can not download new task...

any idea?

tnx
Rizo


If you really have ~20 tasks that you can't upload the problem is at your side (firewall, router, ISP, antivirus, some other security software).

Can you upload any file to sites like this?:
http://ploader.net/
http://www.datafilehost.com/
http://www.virustotal.com/
http://virscan.org/

(Try it)

What changed on 10-11 October at your side?
(Install/change of OS, BOINC, firewall, router, ISP, antivirus, some other security software)

What means "The connections have normal finish and exit"?

"We have firewall, but it does not report any malfunction..." - but the function of the firewall is to block connections which are not explicitly allowed.

3043) Questions and Answers : Windows : Communication Deferred? (Message 1050137)
Posted 21 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Read around - you will find that this question is answered at least 100 times.
Read at least the front (HOME) page News.

3044) Questions and Answers : Web site : No Jobs (Message 1049182)
Posted 18 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Your people skills are somewhat unique in my experience.


If you expect that someone working in SETI lab (~3 "workers") will read our posts here
it is highly improbable.

You are just talking to people from all over the world as you can see by the flags under the user names.
We are like you - just SETI "users" who are more informed because we often read the forums.

The new servers:
Welcome Carolyn and Oscar (Nov 17 2010)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62056

3045) Message boards : Number crunching : Gigabit Link to Seti@Home (Message 1049177)
Posted 18 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
As for compression, remember it will be minuscule as the random noise that is the work unit has no patterns for a compression algorithm to exploit. In fact compressed it may be bigger.


I agree - the random noise is hard to compress but in fact the MB tasks
lose 25-30% of size when compressed to .zip
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62023&nowrap=true#1049042

Maybe only the header compression makes the difference.
(Try it yourself - compress a few tasks to .zip)

3046) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : CUDA FERMI (GTX 460) "Calculation Error" (Message 1049173)
Posted 18 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Let's wait for BOINC GPU jobs. Or they are not GTX460 compatible as well?


What are "BOINC GPU jobs"?!
There is no such animal :)

( Maybe you mean SETI GPU tasks/applications
Now SETI have GPU application that can run on NVIDIA GTX 4XX
but in the past (a few months ago) they also faced the "Fermi-crash" problem.
)


I thought that projects can determine the hardware and propose the right job for it.

Usually - yes, but NVIDIA produced new product which is CUDA-incompatible
with their previous generation GPUs!
(What if Intel or AMD do the same and remove "old" instructions/registers
from their "new" CPUs and programs from the past year can't run?!
)

3047) Questions and Answers : Web site : No Jobs (Message 1049076)
Posted 17 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


It is "prominently featured on your main SETI page":

News
...
The project is down while we remodel our database servers.
.......

3048) Message boards : Number crunching : Gigabit Link to Seti@Home (Message 1049059)
Posted 17 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
CPU time is more expensive. Remember they had to go to three day outages to get enough CPU time to look at the science. This says the CPU's are over 100% right now.


Are you sure the CPUs are the limiting factor when analyzing the data in SETI@home science database (during outage)
or when updating the SETI@home science & BOINC master databases (on "normal" (working) days)?

I think they have enough CPU time and the limiting factor is HDD access.

3049) Message boards : Number crunching : Gigabit Link to Seti@Home (Message 1049048)
Posted 17 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Depends which is more "expensive" - CPU time or Internet bandwidth.

If the CPU time of server is not saturated (e.g. CPU waits for HDD (database) access most of the time)
there is free CPU time to compress/decompress.

( The more HDD load and storage for saving temporary .zip files can be avoided (and even be less)
if the spliters produce directly .zip files
)

3050) Message boards : Number crunching : Gigabit Link to Seti@Home (Message 1049042)
Posted 17 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Is it possible to implement (.zip) compression of the files (zlib1.dll is already in BOINC program directory) -
it will save about 25-30% of the MB tasks download (4 tasks compressed for test using 7-Zip):




and more than 70% saved bandwidth (>90% for big files on fast computers) for
sched_request_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml
sched_reply_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml

3051) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange error, what happened here? (Message 1049035)
Posted 17 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


If you check on your other (working OK) computer you will see the same (except the crash):
Autostart (from registry ...\Run):
boinctray.exe
boincmgr.exe

The icon on the Desktop is BOINC Manager and starts boincmgr.exe
boincmgr.exe checks to see is boinc.exe already running (to connect with it)
and if boinc.exe is not running starts it.

You never have to start boinc.exe directly (boincmgr.exe starts it)
boinc.exe have check (mutex) to ensure that only one boinc.exe is in memory.
You can have many boincmgr.exe in memory but only one boinc.exe

Everyone of us can see in stderrdae.txt (on working OK computer) many lines of:
...
Another instance of BOINC is running
Another instance of BOINC is running
...


My guess - the crash is caused by hardware problem.
Try to Under-clock everything (e.g. run CPU, RAM, GPU at 50-80% of the "normal" speed)
to check will the problem continue.

"No reboot, or reset possible. Only switch off/on"
Strange - reset button (on the computer case) always works - it is connected (almost) directly to the CPU pin

3052) Questions and Answers : Windows : Boinc does not use all cores (Message 1049031)
Posted 17 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Change has no effekt
I checked the versions ncpus : -1, 0, delete
This is not the problem.


What happened when you set
<ncpus>0</ncpus>

Did you see that BOINC stopped using the CPU at all?
(no CPU tasks running)

Do you see 4 cores shown by Windows Task Manager as in this picture?:



3053) Questions and Answers : Web site : New Computer (Message 1048898)
Posted 16 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Two more weeks? It's been over two weeks already! It takes more than a month to install a new server??


The servers arrived at lab yesterday (Two weeks for HP to process the order (assemble and deliver them)):
New toys at SETI lab!
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62041

3054) Questions and Answers : Windows : Boinc does not use all cores (Message 1048889)
Posted 16 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Or you can try:
<ncpus>4</ncpus>

to force using 4 CPUs (cores, threads) (I think the GPUs are not counted in this number on current BOINC).

But (if 4 CPU tasks start to run) check in Windows Task Manager
that they really run on 4 cores (1 task per core)
and not on only 2 cores (2 tasks per core).

3055) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : CUDA FERMI (GTX 460) "Calculation Error" (Message 1048795)
Posted 16 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


All your MilkyWay@Home v0.24 (cuda23) tasks are with 0.00 Run time & CPU time
(so you didn't lose (almost) any CPU/GPU computing time - the tasks error out immediately)
http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/results.php?hostid=234269&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5

And this appear to be "normal" as MilkyWay@Home have no application which can run on CUDA Fermi GPU:
http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/forum_thread.php?id=1865

Computation Errors on new Nvidia 470
http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/forum_thread.php?id=1841


But they are working to make new app (OpenCL - will work both on ATI & NVIDIA GPUs)
http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/forum_thread.php?id=1505&nowrap=true#43570

3056) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lunatics' Unified Installer (Optimized SETI) (Message 1048781)
Posted 16 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

BOINC learns how you use the computer
(% of time BOINC runs, how fast the computing go, etc...
(e.g. you play heavy games - the estimates will go up as the computer appear to be slower (less idle time which BOINC can use))
)

If you set it to get 10 days of work and BOINC is allowed to do computations only 1 hour a day
in fact it will get only 10 hours of work (total for all the projects that the computer is attached to)

So 10 days are real calendar days (not "computing days")

3057) Questions and Answers : Windows : Temperature Monitoring Programs (#2) (Message 1048768)
Posted 16 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


[GPU Tool] GPU Caps Viewer and GPU Shark

http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/

http://www.geeks3d.com/20101105/gpu-tool-gpu-caps-viewer-1-9-4-and-gpu-shark-0-3-2-updated-with-gtx-580-support/

Shows GPU capabilities and Temperatures

3058) Questions and Answers : Windows : Temperature Monitoring Programs (#2) (Message 1048764)
Posted 16 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The old thread:
Temperature Monitoring Programs
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292

was locked so I have to start new to post.

3059) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : CUDA FERMI (GTX 460) "Calculation Error" (Message 1048748)
Posted 16 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thanks.

Here it is:

Name de_separation_82_2s_40_2_335086_1289835580_0
Workunit 186255761
Created 15 Nov 2010 15:39:50 UTC
Sent 15 Nov 2010 15:44:15 UTC
Received 15 Nov 2010 15:49:49 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Client error
Client state Compute error
Exit status 1 (0x1)
Computer ID 234269
Report deadline 23 Nov 2010 15:44:15 UTC
Run time 0
CPU time 0

stderr out

<core_client_version>6.10.58</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
Incorrect function. (0x1) - exit code 1 (0x1)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
Device index specified on the command line was 0
Looking for a Double Precision capable NVIDIA GPU
The device GeForce GTX 460 from the command line cannot be used because a device supporting compute capability 1.3 (Double Precision) is required
Found 1 CUDA cards
Found a GeForce GTX 460
Device cannot be used, it does not have compute capability 1.3 support
No compute capability 1.3 cards have been found, exiting...

</stderr_txt>
]]>

Validate state Invalid
Claimed credit 0
Granted credit 0
application version MilkyWay@Home v0.24 (cuda23)


Can it help? Why my card has "no capability"?


According to this table GeForce GTX 460 have to have even Compute Capability 2.0
http://www.geeks3d.com/20100606/gpu-computing-nvidia-cuda-compute-capability-comparative-table/

Maybe "application version MilkyWay@Home v0.24" can't run on Fermi GPUs??

The task did not run at all - it immediately crashed (Run time 0) at 0% (not 100%)
but every crashed or aborted tasks go from 0 to 100% "in split second".

(I don't run MilkyWay@Home, read on their site what hardware they need/support)

3060) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : CUDA FERMI (GTX 460) "Calculation Error" (Message 1048740)
Posted 16 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
How could I paste a picture here? Can I attach it, because Paste is not working.


I use this site to upload:
http://ploader.net/

(no registration needed; use .png for image format)

Copy (to your post) the last (#3) link that ploader.net will generate (after upload),
mark the line (link) ([Home] [Shift-End])
and press {Img} button above (near the {URL} button)

e.g.:
[img]http://ploader.net/files/963a20a09afb150f29996b4ccd820e52.png[/img]

will give:




(to see how someone uses tags to achieve something press {Quote} button under the post -
e.g. see how I disabled the recognition of [img]...[/img] as tags and instead it is shown as text)

3061) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lunatics' Unified Installer (Optimized SETI) (Message 1048729)
Posted 16 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Yes, but when you finish all the tasks you have (at first you will get maybe only a few)
more will be downloaded.

And the estimates are not so wrong most of the time :)

You will have to set 1-5 days "additional work" to get through the (normal) scheduled 1-3 day outages (every week) that SETI have
(for backups/maintenance/scientific analysis of the billions of "signals" found so far)

3062) Questions and Answers : Windows : Boinc does not use all cores (Message 1048721)
Posted 16 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
<cc_config>

  <log_flags>
    <benchmark_debug>1</benchmark_debug>
    <coproc_debug>1</coproc_debug>
    <cpu_sched>1</cpu_sched>
    <cpu_sched_status>0</cpu_sched_status>
    <file_xfer>1</file_xfer> 
    <file_xfer_debug>1</file_xfer_debug>
    <http_debug>1</http_debug>
    <task>1</task>
  </log_flags>

  <options>
    <max_file_xfers>8</max_file_xfers>
    <ncpus>-1</ncpus>
    <save_stats_days>346</save_stats_days>
  </options>

</cc_config>


Client configuration:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration

<ncpus>N</ncpus>
Act as if there were N CPUs; i.e. to simulate 2 CPUs on a machine that has only 1. To use the number of available CPUs, set the value to 0.

Try to remove the line:
<ncpus>-1</ncpus>
or set the value to 0.

3063) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lunatics' Unified Installer (Optimized SETI) (Message 1048712)
Posted 15 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you mean "<flops> app_info entries" - they are not essential -
without them the CPU-time estimates for tasks may be very wrong
(e.g. BOINC can "think" that 10 hours will be needed for a CUDA task to finish)
but this have NO effect on actual run time (minutes for CUDA Fermi).

To "watch how my card performs" you will need to wait 2-3 weeks as now SETI have no work/tasks/WUs to send.
(read the home-page news)

3064) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lunatics' Unified Installer (Optimized SETI) (Message 1048701)
Posted 15 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Where did you see this hint? What the hint say?

You don't need to edit app_info.xml - it will work as it is (created by the Lunatics' Unified Installer)

But with your NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 (1503MB) (CUDA Fermi) GPU (very potent)
you can do more work per hour if you edit your app_info.xml
so that more than one task is run on it (2 or 3 CUDA tasks simultaneously):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60079&nowrap=true#1029675

"
(For this) you have to edit your app_info.xml file (which is in your setiathome.berkeley.edu project folder):
<coproc>
       <type>CUDA</type>
       <count>1</count>
</coproc>

..to..
<coproc>
       <type>CUDA</type>
       <count>0.5</count>
</coproc>
for 2 WUs/GPU

..or to..
<coproc>
       <type>CUDA</type>
       <count>0.33</count>
</coproc>
for 3 WUs/GPU

"

3065) Message boards : Number crunching : Caching Wu's on multiple projects (Message 1047808)
Posted 12 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You can not "split settings" for the WU cache - 5+5 days will be the total work for all the projects.

Try to use 1+9 days so you don't get "Won't finish in time" message.

You also can set "Resource share 0 (zero)" on dNetc to get small amounts of work only if other projects do not have work.

3066) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : CUDA FERMI (GTX 460) "Calculation Error" (Message 1047521)
Posted 10 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Yes, I think I found the reason. It was antivirus program which put Rosetta executable into the "untrusted applications" without asking for decision.
I changed the properties to "trusted" and now Rosetta is working.

I hope SETI project has the same issue. I will check it after new jobs will be available.


I was about to write "switch off your antivirus program for a few minutes to see if that helps"
and you found it yourself :)

Now, to help others when they have the same problem
will you tell us which antivirus program makes such things?

( I never have such problems with NOD32 Antivirus (several versions 2.70 - 4.x on several computers/OSes) (used also AVG, Avast in the past)
Nothing is in ignore (exclude) list of NOD32.
)

3067) Message boards : Number crunching : SSSE3x (Message 1047423)
Posted 10 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
On Vista it seems different and cannot find that.


"cannot find that": What? The folder??

It is exactly how it is on Vista

Your post:

11/9/2010 6:06:19 PM Starting BOINC client version 6.10.58 for windows_intelx86
11/9/2010 6:06:19 PM log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
11/9/2010 6:06:23 PM Libraries: libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.3
11/9/2010 6:06:23 PM Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
11/9/2010 6:06:24 PM Running under account nick
11/9/2010 6:06:26 PM Processor: 4 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU @ 2.40GHz [Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 7]
11/9/2010 6:06:26 PM Processor: 4.00 MB cache
11/9/2010 6:06:27 PM Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 nx lm vmx tm2 pbe
11/9/2010 6:06:27 PM OS: Microsoft Windows Vista: Home Premium x86 Edition, Service Pack 2, (06.00.6002.00)


(Do you know how to copy/paste the folder in the Explorer (paste in any folder window - in the top line next to 2 buttons (<-) (->) and press Enter)?
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\



)

3068) Message boards : Number crunching : SSSE3x (Message 1047420)
Posted 10 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It installed, but I am not able to locate it, sorry.


You are toooo short in your postings!
What "I am not able to locate it" means?!
What did you try exactly.

Did you copy/paste the folder in the Explorer? (the C:\ProgramData\ is hidden by default by Windows, you can't go there by going to C:\ and click on C:\ProgramData\ - you will not see it)
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\

3069) Message boards : Number crunching : SSSE3x (Message 1047416)
Posted 10 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Yes, I did. Incidentally, I may have been able to download the lunatics this time successfully. We shall see when I get new work units. Thank you all for your help and patience.


By "download the lunatics this time successfully" do you mean "Install the lunatics this time successfully"?

Even if you do not have tasks you can check is the Lunatics install OK if you go to:
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\
(copy/paste the above line (folder) in the Explorer)

Check (in the C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\ folder) do you have these files:
app_info.xml
AK_v8b_win_SSSE3x.exe

3070) Message boards : Number crunching : SSSE3x (Message 1047405)
Posted 10 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I went to Programs, add and delete and deleted BOINC.


Do you mean you went to Start Menu -> Control Panel -> Programs and Features
click on BOINC
click Uninstall
?

3071) Message boards : Number crunching : SSSE3x (Message 1047403)
Posted 10 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thanks, guys. Yes, I double checked and BOINC was not showing in the Task Manager.


We mean these 2 files (processes) - boinc.exe & boincmgr.exe have to disappear from the list:




3072) Message boards : Number crunching : SSSE3x (Message 1047398)
Posted 10 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I reinstalled BOINC, after deleting it. I tried to download SSSE3x and as i was doing it I was told that BOINC is running and i should shut it down. It was shut down. Then try to reload the SSSE3x again. Same results. It is telling me to shut down BOINC. I am confused, but grateful for all the kind help.


How do you delete BOINC?! (what exactly did you delete?)

"download SSSE3x": what is the name of the file that you downloaded? Is it:
Lunatics_Win32v0.37_AP505r409_AKv8b_Cudax32f.exe

"try to reload the SSSE3x again": What does it mean? How do you "reload the SSSE3x"?

"It is telling me to shut down BOINC": to be sure first use this:



... then exit BOINC Manager

Then run Lunatics_Win32v0.37_AP505r409_AKv8b_Cudax32f.exe


3073) Message boards : Number crunching : computer crashes when usb device plugged in (Message 1047386)
Posted 10 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you don't want to check the cables from the front USB port to the mainboard USB header (Message 1047052)
just put red sticker over the bad front USB port so no one uses it.

3074) Questions and Answers : Preferences : How to set a 'Backup Project'? (Message 1047080)
Posted 8 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Set the Resource share for the Backup Project to 0 (zero)
If the Backup Project do not accept 0 (zero) set the Resource share to 0.01

3075) Message boards : Number crunching : computer crashes when usb device plugged in (Message 1047052)
Posted 8 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

There is no standard how the pins on USB header connector on mainboard are aranged.
Check the documentation for your mainboard.

http://www.frontx.com/cpx108_2.html
http://www.directron.com/installusb.html
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_USB_header

3076) Questions and Answers : Windows : New computer questions (Message 1046968)
Posted 8 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Here are the results:
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
<C> Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\ Document and Settings\Archer W. Dong>netstat -bno

Active Connections

Proto Local Address Foreign Address State PID
TCP 127.0.0.1:1030 127.0.0.1:5354 ESTABLISHED 1592
[ODSAgent.exe ]

TCP 127.0.0.1:5354 127.0.0.1:1030 ESTABLISHED 256
[nDNSResponder.exe ]

TCP 192.168.1.102:1152 161.69.13.33:80 ESTABLISHED 1600
[MPFTray.exe ]

TCP 192.168.1.102:1870 65.55.12.249:80 LAST_ACK 4088
[System ]

TCP 192.168.1.102:1490 192.168.1.101:139 TIME_WAIT 0

C:\ Document and Settings\Archer W. Dong>


MPFTray.exe !!! You have McAfee Personal Firewall?:
https://community.mcafee.com/thread/16911 (Note "911" in the link ;) )
http://download.mcafee.com/products/webhelp/4/1033/GUID-59074DB7-2897-418F-8ADC-00D75E2C3C62.html

http://www.file.net/process/mpftray.exe.html
"Important: Some malware camouflage themselves as MpfTray.exe, particularly if they are located in c:\windows or c:\windows\system32 folder. Thus check the MpfTray.exe process on your pc whether it is pest."


(Please, scan the computer for viruses (as you know I recommend NOD32))

3077) Questions and Answers : Windows : New computer questions (Message 1046965)
Posted 7 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Here are the results:
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
<C> Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\ Document and Settings\Archer W. Dong>netstat -bno

Active Connections

Proto Local Address Foreign Address State PID
TCP 127.0.0.1:1030 127.0.0.1:5354 ESTABLISHED 1592
[ODSAgent.exe ]

TCP 127.0.0.1:5354 127.0.0.1:1030 ESTABLISHED 256
[nDNSResponder.exe ]

TCP 192.168.1.102:1152 161.69.13.33:80 ESTABLISHED 1600
[MPFTray.exe ]

TCP 192.168.1.102:1870 65.55.12.249:80 LAST_ACK 4088
[System ]

TCP 192.168.1.102:1490 192.168.1.101:139 TIME_WAIT 0

C:\ Document and Settings\Archer W. Dong>


nDNSResponder - "Bonjour for Windows XP Screwing up My Internet":
http://dood.ca/2009/05/30/bonjour-for-windows-screwing-up-my-internet/

3078) Message boards : Number crunching : Application: Ghost Detector - find out how big your Ghost Army is (Message 1046919)
Posted 7 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


(your GhostDet.INI looks OK)


GhostDet on my Vista/BOINC is OK:





results.htm for SETI@home:

1) View as web-page (as shown by Total Commander - Lister [F3 View]):

Unable to handle request
   {[logo7.gif]}
{HOME}   {PARTICIPATE}   {ABOUT}   {COMMUNITY}   {ACCOUNT}   {STATISTICS} 

This feature is turned off temporarily 

{HOME}   {PARTICIPATE}   {ABOUT}   {COMMUNITY}   {ACCOUNT}   {STATISTICS} 
Copyright © 2010 University of California   


2) Raw HTML View:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd"><html><head><title>Unable to handle request</title>
<link rel=stylesheet type="text/css" href="main.css" media="all" />
		<link rel=stylesheet type="text/css" href="http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/white.css">
        <link rel=alternate type="application/rss+xml" title="SETI@home RSS 2.0" href="http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/rss_main.php">
        
        </head>
    <body>
<!-- SVN VERSIONS -->
<!-- $Id: translation.inc 21878 2010-07-06 23:31:26Z davea $ -->
<!-- $Id: pm.inc 14019 2007-11-01 23:04:39Z davea $ -->
<!-- $Id: text_transform.inc 22228 2010-08-14 01:49:08Z davea $ -->
<!-- $Id: stats_sites.inc 22414 2010-09-27 20:34:47Z davea $ -->
<!-- $Id: team.inc 22319 2010-09-07 18:20:29Z davea $ -->
<!-- $Id: user.inc 22366 2010-09-15 23:47:49Z davea $ -->
<!-- $Id: profile.inc 20582 2010-02-16 01:06:03Z davea $ -->
<!-- $Id: util.inc 22485 2010-10-08 23:18:12Z davea $ -->
<!-- $Id: result.inc 22340 2010-09-13 16:12:00Z Rytis $ -->
<link rel="shortcut icon" href="images/logo7.ico">
	<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="white_aux.css">

        <table width=100% class=noborder cellpadding=10 cellspacing=0>
        <tr>
        <td><center><h1>Unable to handle request</h1></center></td>
        <td align=right width=250>
        <a href=http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/><img border=0 align=right src=logo7.gif hspace=20></a><br>
        </td></tr></table>
        <table width=100% class=noborder cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0>
        <tr bgcolor=#101048 height=20>

        <td class=navbar><a class=navbar href=/index.php><nobr><b>HOME</b></nobr></a></td>
    
        <td class=navbar><a class=navbar href=/sah_participate.php><nobr><b>PARTICIPATE</b></nobr></a></td>
    
        <td class=navbar><a class=navbar href=/sah_about.php><nobr><b>ABOUT</b></nobr></a></td>
    
        <td class=navbar><a class=navbar href=/sah_community.php><nobr><b>COMMUNITY</b></nobr></a></td>
    
        <td class=navbar><a class=navbar href=/home.php><nobr><b>ACCOUNT</b></nobr></a></td>
    
        <td class=navbar><a class=navbar href=/stats.php><nobr><b>STATISTICS</b></nobr></a></td>
    
        </tr></table>
        <p>
    This feature is turned off temporarily
        <p>
        <table width=100% class=noborder cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0>
        <tr bgcolor=#101048 height=20>
    
        <td class=navbar><a class=navbar href=/index.php><nobr><b>HOME</b></nobr></a></td>
    
        <td class=navbar><a class=navbar href=/sah_participate.php><nobr><b>PARTICIPATE</b></nobr></a></td>
    
        <td class=navbar><a class=navbar href=/sah_about.php><nobr><b>ABOUT</b></nobr></a></td>
    
        <td class=navbar><a class=navbar href=/sah_community.php><nobr><b>COMMUNITY</b></nobr></a></td>
    
        <td class=navbar><a class=navbar href=/home.php><nobr><b>ACCOUNT</b></nobr></a></td>
    
        <td class=navbar><a class=navbar href=/stats.php><nobr><b>STATISTICS</b></nobr></a></td>
    

        </tr></table>
        <table width=100% class=noborder cellpadding=10 cellspacing=0>
        <tr><td align=center>
            <font color=bbbbbb>
            Copyright &copy; 2010 University of California
            </font>
        </td>
    
        </tr></table>
    </body>
        </html>



Check your results.htm generated after [Detect Ghosts Now] for SETI@home -
does it look the same?

3079) Questions and Answers : Windows : New computer questions (Message 1046910)
Posted 7 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
How do you INSERT an image into a post using [/img]?


I use this site to upload:
http://ploader.net/

(no registration needed; use .png for image format)

Copy (to your post) the last (#3) link that ploader.net will generate (after upload),
mark the line ([Home] [Shift-End])
and press {Img} button above (near the {URL} button)

e.g.:
[img]http://ploader.net/files/963a20a09afb150f29996b4ccd820e52.png[/img]

will give:




(to see how someone uses tags to achieve something press {Quote} button under the post -
e.g. see how I disabled the recognition of [img]...[/img] as tags and instead it is shown as text)

3080) Questions and Answers : Windows : New computer questions (Message 1046583)
Posted 6 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Question: What antivirus/security product do you use? Does it contain firewall?
Answer: Windows Firewall. I have turned it OFF with not change in results.

So you don't use any antivirus?!
You can get the Free 30-day trial of ESET NOD32 Antivirus 4
http://www.eset.com/download
http://www.eset.com/home/compare-eset-to-competition

(if you have the username and password you can download the paid version)

Use NOD32 Antivirus to check if you have some virus, trojan, etc.

Question: What Preferences? Where and how do you compare them.
Answer: BOINC Manager has an “Advanced” menu... I viewed Preferences tabs (processor usage, network usage, disk and memory usage) on my laptop and desktop at the same time to compare the values and selected options.

I wonder how is this possible if BOINC Manager can't connect to boinc.exe ?!
(only boinc.exe (and not boincmgr.exe) contain string "global_prefs_override.xml" which is the file where these “Advanced” menu Preferences are stored)

I have REMOVED BOINC with the Add or Remove Programs in Control Panel. I have also deleted the BOINC folder on the desktop. Then reinstalled BOINC from the .exe file stored in My Downloads folder. I turned OFF Windows Firewall and then launched BOINC Manager.

Uninstallation of BOINC only removes the program files (from e.g. C:\Program Files\BOINC).
It does not delete anything from BOINC Data directory (in your case C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC)
And what is this "BOINC folder on the desktop" that you deleted?
(Edit: oh, I think by "on the desktop" you are referring to "on the desktop computer" and not "on the Desktop of the computer (where the icons are over the wallpaper)"?)

I meant you have to do this:
1) Exit BOINC
2) Delete (or rename/move) manually folder "BOINC" found in
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC
3) Install BOINC again
(no need to Uninstall, no need to reboot)
This will create new "empty" BOINC Data folder (for fresh start).

What do you see for Program directory & Data directory on this screen in the installer?:





( I prefer to choose manually the names and place for Program directory & Data directory so in my case they are:
Program directory: H:\BOINC\ (here I see boincmgr.exe, boinc.exe, ...)
Data directory: H:\BOINC-Data\ (here I see client_state.xml, stdoutdae.txt, ...)
)

3081) Message boards : Number crunching : Application: Ghost Detector - find out how big your Ghost Army is (Message 1046540)
Posted 6 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Post the contents of GhostDet.INI

[Settings]
txtpath=H:\BOINC-Data
txtInterval=24
iProject=2

[SETI@home]
txtURL=http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php

[orbit@home]
txtURL=http://orbit.psi.edu/oah/results.php

[Einstein@Home]
txtURL=http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/results.php

3082) Questions and Answers : Windows : New computer questions (Message 1046381)
Posted 6 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have noticed that while watching the Task Manager PROCESSES display, boinc.exe appears and seems to run for some time then it disappears and eventually appears again.

Why it disappears I am not sure but it appears again because boincmgr.exe starts boinc.exe again (after some time (30 sec?)) if boinc.exe is not running.

What antivirus/security product do you use? Does it contain firewall?

Try to switch it (antivirus + firewall) off for a few minutes to see what happens.
Some antivirus programs may "think" that boinc.exe is trojan and block/kill it.
(I use NOD32 and do not have problems)

It (boinc.exe) clocks CPU. boincmgr.exe runs all the time and also clocks CPU.

By "clocks CPU" do you mean "uses/consumes CPU time"?
What is % CPU time for boinc.exe & boincmgr.exe (have to be 0-3%, not more)?

I have compared Preferences between my laptop (which is running OK) and my desktop to make sure both PCs are the same.

What Preferences? Where and how do you compare them.

05-Nov-2010 19:31:33 [---] [error] GUI RPC listen failed: -1

I think this is the same as error "can't connect to localhost"

05-Nov-2010 19:32:02 [SETI@home] URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 5158563; resource share 100
05-Nov-2010 19:32:02 [Milkyway@home] URL http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/; Computer ID 116703; resource share 100
05-Nov-2010 19:32:02 [SETI@home] General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 28-Oct-2009 22:10:46)
05-Nov-2010 19:32:02 [SETI@home] Computer location: home
05-Nov-2010 19:32:02 [SETI@home] General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults

BOINC (boinc.exe) sees that the computer is already attached to SETI@home & Milkyway@home
but the computer ID: 5158563 is the same as your other Vista computer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=173392

because you copied the BOINC Data folder from it.

I'm not sure what is the easiest way to get new computer ID without affecting the work done on the other (Vista) computer with ID: 5158563

I think detach/attach on this computer (with ID: 5158563) will affect the other computer (with same ID: 5158563).
But it can't remain this way - I will suggest to delete (or rename) the BOINC Data folder (e.g. to BOINC_Data_OLD)
and install BOINC again to create new "empty" BOINC Data folder.
(you are in BOINC Data folder if you see sub-folders projects, slots; files client_state.xml, global_prefs.xml, stdoutdae.txt, etc...)

To copy entire BOINC Data folder from one computer to another
is suggested only if you need to stop using the old installation!
(e.g. to transfer the work to new HDD if the old HDD/computer is about to go in trash)

05-Nov-2010 19:32:02 [---] Reading preferences override file

You have local (set in BOINC Manager) preferences in use (they are copied with the BOINC Data folder (global_prefs_override.xml))

3083) Questions and Answers : Windows : New computer questions (Message 1046303)
Posted 5 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Exit BOINC (check in Windows Task Manager that boincmgr.exe and boinc.exe are not in the list of running processes)

Install BOINC 6.10.58 again
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php

In the screen #3 (I think) press Advanced
Browse to select the BOINC Data directory where you want it to be (but NOT in Program Files)
Select "Allow all users to control BOINC"
Do not select "Protected application execution"
Finish the install.

Start BOINC Manager
Check in Windows Task Manager that boincmgr.exe and boinc.exe are in the list of running processes

If boinc.exe is running and you have some tasks from any project you have to see
that some process(es) (the scientific application(s)) is/are using 90-100% of a CPU core (= 45-50% CPU)

(boincmgr.exe is just GUI - even if it can't connect to boinc.exe the "work" will be done as usual (tasks will be downloaded, computed, uploaded, etc.)
only you can't see what is happening)

What do you see in Windows Task Manager?

3084) Questions and Answers : Windows : HTTP Error (Message 1045816)
Posted 3 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
thanks for the replies, i let the client through. So until they set up the new server(s) there will be no way to validate if it works ?


To "validate if it (BOINC) works" in the meantime you can try another project, e.g. Einstein@Home
http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/index.php

3085) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : CUDA FERMI (GTX 460) "Calculation Error" (Message 1045477)
Posted 1 Nov 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Try to re-install BOINC
Select "Permit all users to control BOINC"
(I hope this will set correct permissions on the directories used by BOINC)

Did you reboot recently?

3086) Message boards : Number crunching : Name the newest member to the server family!!! (Message 1045211)
Posted 31 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I favor sagan, with carl as a second choice. vader is a last name; most others are first (or only) names. I think carl is not sufficiently specific. I see no two part names so carl sagan is deprecated. I also see no long names, so carl_sagan and supercalafragalisticexpialadocious are out too.


:) Try:
Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateapokaiwhenuakitanatahu
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateapokaiwhenuakitanatahu

"
Meaning

The name on the sign that marks the hill is "Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu", which translates roughly as The summit where Tamatea, the man with the big knees, the climber of mountains, the land-swallower who travelled about, played his nose flute to his loved one. At 85 letters, it has been listed in the Guinness World Records as one of the longest place names in the world.
"

Or try some of these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_word_in_English

3087) Questions and Answers : Windows : Help! output file absent (Message 1044196)
Posted 24 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Not "every time":
Valid tasks for computer 5540567
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5540567&offset=0&show_names=0&state=3&appid=


Error tasks:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5540567&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=

They show (click on links in "Task" column to see)
- exit code -1073741511 (0xc0000139)

(the SETI CUDA app/dll errored immediately after start so it was unable to create Output file
STATUS_ENTRYPOINT_NOT_FOUND (0xC0000139) exception
Maybe the CUDA DLLs are wrong version or corrupted?
)


Read:
http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Unrecoverable_error_for_result_'(result)'_(_-_exit_code_-'(number)'_('(hex-number)'))


Try Reboot
Try Reset of SETI@home project
Try Detach/Attach to SETI@home project

What did you install the last 3 days?
(e.g. new drivers?)

3088) Message boards : Number crunching : Name the newest member to the server family!!! (Message 1044170)
Posted 24 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


I propose/vote for:

Neo (the server is New and maybe "The Chosen One" ;) )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo_(The_Matrix)




Clarke (not Arthur - reminds me of King Arthur and some animation characters (e.g. Arthur Pendragon (Shrek)))
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_C._Clarke




Albert
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein




and of course ALF :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALF_(TV_series)
3089) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows screensavers may stop CUDA processing (Message 1043497)
Posted 22 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Check the setting:

Suspend work if no mouse/keyboard activity in last --- minutes
Needed to enter low-power mode on some computers

3090) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC v6.12.xx : messages tab or event log window (Message 1043014)
Posted 17 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I hope they will make an Option to choose between
Event log window / Event log (Messages) tab

(so both old and new users will be happy)

I want Messages tab (not window).

3091) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Quad Core plus 2 cuda uses only 3 cpu cores. (Message 1042765)
Posted 16 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

1) Try to switch SLI Off
2) Look in Messages tab for a clue why the GPUs are not used
(in BOINC 6.12.2 I think it is hidden in Advanced menu)

3092) Questions and Answers : Web site : Not getting credit (Message 1041636)
Posted 13 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


That is not true - you have credit granted today (and yesterday, and ...)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5144174&offset=0&show_names=0&state=3&appid=

Where do you look?
Look in your BOINC Manager or in your account
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/home.php


and NOT on
Cross-project statistics
BOINCstats
BOINC all Project Stats
BOINC Combined Statistics
Free-DC
Team Starfire World BOINC Stats 'N Stones
The Knights Who Say 'Ni!'
BOINC Statistics for the WORLD!

- they do not update in bad times for servers.

3093) Message boards : Number crunching : Changed Processor (Message 1041476)
Posted 12 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


I think this line (about supported instructions) is only informative -
I don't think BOINC ever uses this info - do you see any problem in actual computations?

If it is this computer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4935165

you have to change the optimized apps from SSE to MMX

MMX is not included in any Lunatics' Unified Installer so you have to do it manually:
Crunch3r's BOINC page
http://calbe.dw70.de/win32.html

(2.4V Windows x32 MMX Intel & AMD works on my K6-2+ in Win98)

3094) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Stop the spinning! (Message 1040946)
Posted 11 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Set all "oscillation" to 0 (zero) here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

( Click Edit SETI@home preferences (bottom of page)
change oscillation values and use [Update preferences] button
)

Then in BOINC Manager -> Projects tab
select SETI@home and press [Update] button (at the left)

3095) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Question about CP usage (Message 1040919)
Posted 11 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Work is done on the CPU (Central Processing Unit). GPU work is done on the GPU (Graphics Processing Unit aka Graphics Card). The GPU can be quite a bit faster for some calculations than the CPU.

There are two settings available to allow computing while the computer is in use. Set these to disallow computing while the computer (mouse and keyboard) are in use. One is for the CPU and the other is for the GPU.

If you are having problems with responsiveness, turn of the GPU usage while you are active and try again. If you are still having trouble turn of CPU usage. Most modern computers on most tasks have no difficulty at all with the CPU portion, but many GPU cars are single threaded and have a great deal of trouble doing the graphics processing while they are in use doing other things.


I will add that not only the "modern computers" have no difficulty at all with the CPU computing.

My K6-2+ / 524 MHz have "no difficulty at all" (no slowdown when I use it)
running SETI all the time.

As we know the computing (SETI app) is done by low priority process so even the heavy tasks (e.g. games) do not run slow.

3096) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Question about CP usage (Message 1040900)
Posted 11 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Todays GPUs (video cards) can be used for computing:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/GPU_computing

SETI still do not have "standard" application that can run on ATI Radeon GPUs (but will have in (near?) future)
so BOINC will ask for SETI ATI GPU work (and (for now) you will see "No GPU work available")

Your computer will do the SETI computing on CPU only (as most of the computers).
As you have "12 processors" you will see 12 tasks running simultaneously.

You don't need the screen saver.
To make the computer run SETI only when you don't use the computer for a while
go to Computing preferences
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global

click Edit preferences (bottom of page)
and select:

Suspend work while computer is in use? yes
Suspend GPU work while computer is in use? yes
'In use' means mouse/keyboard activity in last 3 minutes

If you want also the screen saver to be shown select (by standard Windows "screen saver" dialog)
to run it after e.g. 4-10 minutes (1 or more minutes after the "3 minutes" you set above)

Also set the screen saver to go blank after 5-10 minutes after it's start
as it slows down the "real" computations while drawing the pretty graphics.

3097) Questions and Answers : Windows : Installing and Running BOINC under Windows 7 (Message 1040877)
Posted 11 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Try this: under the lines:
<version_num>6xx</version_num>
add
<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>

http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?action=printpage;topic=637.0
(found by Google: windows_intelx86 603)


Or install
Win64 Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.37 (I'm not sure will it work with 32 bit BOINC)
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;sa=dlview;id=247

which have this pre-built:
e.g. AKv8bx64_SSSE3x.aistub
<app_info>
    <app>
        <name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>AK_v8b_win_x64_SSSE3x.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>603</version_num>
	<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
        <file_ref>
           <file_name>AK_v8b_win_x64_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>603</version_num>
	<platform>windows_x86_64</platform>
        <file_ref>
           <file_name>AK_v8b_win_x64_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
</app_info>

As you see it have both:
<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
<platform>windows_x86_64</platform>
3098) Message boards : Number crunching : Application: Ghost Detector - find out how big your Ghost Army is (Message 1039940)
Posted 8 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Every forum thread you and I look at makes queries to BOINC replica database
to display the stats (at left) for all the users that have posts.

Did you ever run/try the GhostDet to see how it works?
It only gets 5-10 results.htm pages (total 50-100 KB) no matter how many tasks you have.

3099) Message boards : Number crunching : Application: Ghost Detector - find out how big your Ghost Army is (Message 1039924)
Posted 8 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do you still think that this program puts big load on BOINC database?
If 100 000 users run it maybe but not if only 100.

How many times do you look at your tasks (in a browser) or forum threads per day?

In the last 24 hours you have more than 80 posts - this is more load on BOINC database
than if you run this program once a day on every of your 5 computers.

(the main load is from >200 000 computers which try to report and download)

3100) Message boards : Number crunching : astropulse on ati 3450 graphics card (Message 1038893)
Posted 6 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I'm not sure you have to keep two sections for astropulse_v505 app (CPU-only and Hybrid)

I suggest you to remove the following lines from your app_info.xml
<app>
   <name>astropulse_v505</name>
</app>
<file_info>
   <name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</name>
   <executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
   <app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
   <version_num>505</version_num>
   <file_ref>
      <file_name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</file_name>
      <main_program/>
   </file_ref>
</app_version>

3101) Message boards : Number crunching : astropulse on ati 3450 graphics card (Message 1038632)
Posted 3 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

That is absolutely NOT the way it has to be done!

This is why they say:

VERY IMPORTANT!!! Note that correct install of these applications requires ADVANCED SKILLS.

Ask yourself:
Where are the "normal" (stock) applications (the .exe, .dll files) which are working now?
What are their names?

What type of file I just downloaded from Lunatics?
Isn't it compressed archive?

If you can't answer at least these questions don't go with manual installing of optimized packages.

3102) Message boards : Number crunching : Still Getting New Ghosts (Message 1038626)
Posted 3 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Get the Ghost Detector
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=61519
http://www.mediafire.com/?yyy64lh5953d7
(get the small .zip)

In the .zip there is .pdf which explains how to do detach/re-attach and keep opt apps

3103) Message boards : Number crunching : Help! I've lost all my settings! (Message 1038606)
Posted 3 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Update - Have found the rescheduler backup.

It has a 'capture-state' from 27/09/10 and a 'client_state' from 26/9/10.

Any preferences to which one to try?

regards, Giz.


This means you did [Run] on 26/9/10 and [Test] on 27/09/10

Use the newer 'capture-state' from 27/09/10 (if it has good big size (several MB?))

(capture-state.xml is client_state.xml just with different name)

3104) Message boards : Number crunching : Help! I've lost all my settings! (Message 1038600)
Posted 3 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... If you get a new IP then it will think it is a different computer...

NO - not true, my IP changes every week (ADSL) with no side effects.


I did try out the Boinc rescheduler, but I can't find the temp directory it's using.

OK, start it but do not press [Test] or [Run]
Go to Expert tab and there you'll see where is the "Temp folder"
(my (but not yours) is: C:\WIND98SE\Application Data\eFMer\BoincScheduler\capture\)
If the files in \capture\ are too old use the one you have from 24th September.

Exit BOINC before rename/copy


And then what? I guess to rename it to the current client_state file and detach/re-attach as Questor suggested?

When you start BOINC with the "new" client_state.xml it will say (I think) that some WU files are missing (they are already reported but we use older/backup copy of client_state.xml)
but BOINC will continue to work on the (old) tasks still present in the \projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\ directory (some of your 800 tasks)

I hope no need to detach/re-attach - depends how old is the backup

3105) Message boards : Number crunching : No stderr output yet validated as good and other strange things (Message 1038592)
Posted 3 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Do you have some theory how the <name> of the task is properly recognized (so it is reported successfully)
but not the value of <final_cpu_time> - they are too close together (in sched_request_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml) -
if one of the strings is garbage the other probably also will be.

These "0.00" tasks look like the file was cut right after the </name> (they do not show <stderr_out>)
May that be the new partial report accept when reporting too many results (cut the report at server after the 1024-th task)??

(this task reported OK - no error here, just for illustration):
<result>
    <name>06ja10ac.24499.28953.11.10.144_1</name>
    <final_cpu_time>531086.000000</final_cpu_time>
    <final_elapsed_time>536410.090002</final_elapsed_time>
    <exit_status>0</exit_status>
    <state>5</state>
    <platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
    <version_num>528</version_num>
    <fpops_cumulative>128586103797410.140000</fpops_cumulative>
    <app_version_num>528</app_version_num>
<stderr_out>
<core_client_version>6.6.38</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
Optimized SETI@Home Enhanced application
Optimizers: Ben Herndon, Josef Segur, Alex Kan, Simon Zadra
   Version: Windows MMX 32-bit based on S@H V5.15  'Noo? No - Ni!'
  Revision: R-2.4V|PX|FFT:IPP_MMX|Ben-Joe
     CPUID: AMD-K6(tm)-III Processor 
     Speed: 1 x 531 MHz 
     Cache: L1=32K L2=128K
  Features: MMX 
 
Work Unit Info
WU Credit multi. is:  2.85
WU True angle range:  0.385402
Restarted at 6.89 percent.
Restarted at 16.67 percent.
Restarted at 74.72 percent.
Restarted at 95.96 percent.

Spikes Pulses Triplets Gaussians Flops
   0      4       0        4     45112950283756

</stderr_txt>
]]>
</stderr_out> 

3106) Message boards : Number crunching : Help with Win7/64 opapp 0.37 setup (Message 1038577)
Posted 3 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

1. No - it happens with large WU cache and if the estimates are too high

2. BOINC thinks it has too much tasks (hours) to do and worries they may not finish in time (wrong estimates?)
so reorders the tasks and for some time will not ask for more WUs

3107) Message boards : Number crunching : Help! I've lost all my settings! (Message 1038552)
Posted 3 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you use some of the ReScheduler programs they make backups of client_state.xml

ReSchedule 1.9 keep backups in BOINC Data directory (as client_state2010*.xml)
BOINC Rescheduler - in its "Temp" (capture) directory (as capture-state.xml)

(Do not run them now - just check in folders)

3108) Message boards : Number crunching : No stderr output yet validated as good and other strange things (Message 1038529)
Posted 3 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


He is innocent - this is some server induced error.
Browse your validated tasks - maybe you will find that you also have some "stamped" with 0.00 CPU time.

Look the post by Raistmer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=61535&nowrap=true#1037539

Maybe this is connected to the time when "Our upload (results) storage area is full"?

Is it possible that some result files are received fully (100%) by the upload server (in its memory),
server gives reply "upload is OK" (so your/my computer will not try again)
but the result file is partly saved to the server's disk (half file)
due to disk is full?

3109) Message boards : Number crunching : Help with Win7/64 opapp 0.37 setup (Message 1038364)
Posted 2 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
hmm CPU tasks seem to be taking about 50% longer (?) and gpu tasks seem to be blazing along, about 2x speed. Just casual observation.


You choose wrong apps - CPU tasks have to be 150-250% faster.
Don't leave the settings "on default" - check with CPU-Z what to choose.

For your AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ choose SSE3 (AMD)





For your Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz choose (maybe) SSSE3 (Intel) (SSS - not SS)

3110) Questions and Answers : Web site : Cant make contact! (Message 1038338)
Posted 2 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Not now - there were difficulties for ~7 days but now everything works.
What the messages say (copy a few for us to see)?

3111) Questions and Answers : Getting started : how 2 get credit? want 2 post science q. (Message 1037691)
Posted 1 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


To be informed of the heat in your computer you can try some of the
Temperature Monitoring Programs
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292

Not all of them (if any) will be able to show the Temperatures in this Pentium 4 system
(the CPU itself have no internal Temperature sensor but the Mainboard may have)
but try at least SIV and EVEREST

Check the inside of the computer and clean it from dust (I use brush and vacuum cleaner at low speed)

If the Temperature is still high (with no dust + the fan you added)
you can use the preference "Use at most XX% of CPU time (Can be used to reduce CPU heat)"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global

3112) Questions and Answers : Getting started : how 2 get credit? want 2 post science q. (Message 1037672)
Posted 1 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You can find many answers in BOINC FAQ Service
http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/

3113) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Optimized apps: Reliable and accurate? (Message 1037664)
Posted 1 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

No one can assure that any program is 100% free of bugs
so the corporations sell software which may cost 1000s of $
and at the same time they push you to [Agree] that you get the program "As Is, with all faults"!

So far the optimized apps (released to public - not beta)
proved to be accurate on results (they validate OK for years against "stock" results).

3114) Questions and Answers : Getting started : how 2 get credit? want 2 post science q. (Message 1037654)
Posted 1 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So, the rainbow spikey thing slows down the work, and it's ok to close that? It won't shut me down?


Yes, you can choose for screen saver <None> and just set your monitor to sleep after e.g. 20 minutes.

Check in Windows Task Manager - the process which shows >90% CPU usage
and have Priority "Low" is the one which makes the computations.

P.S.
I also very much like the film "Contact"

3115) Questions and Answers : Getting started : how 2 get credit? want 2 post science q. (Message 1037640)
Posted 1 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Does that sound like it's working??? I'm not going to have to hand type all that without copy/paste, am I???


Yes - it's working.

But you do not need (except for your visual pleasure)
to watch if the signal is found nor you need to type/send
the results manually.

You can leave BOINC running unattended for a month and it will
get new work, process it and return the results automatically.


The screen saver do not compute anything (except for graphics) -
it only shows pretty pictures.
Look at it from time to time if you like but don't leave it running
all the time - the screen saver actually slows down the speed of computations.

Man, that's some old signal!

All signals are old - they may come from 50 light years away so be 50 years old.

I wanted to do this back in 2000 ...

If you want to see how it looked back in 2000 get "my" package and run the .exe:

Just for fun: Classic SETI in Action!
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59278&nowrap=true#1024291

3116) Questions and Answers : Getting started : CPU uage too high (Message 1037623)
Posted 1 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The preference you have to change is this:
Suspend work if CPU usage is above  	--- %
            0 means no restriction
      Enforced by version 6.10.30+

Set it to 0 (zero) or 100%

Read also:
NEW Pref.: Suspend work if CPU usage is > XX %
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58787

3117) Message boards : Number crunching : Well my 10 day cache is running dry... (Message 1037612)
Posted 1 Oct 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I never heard that is possible to get WU for more then 10 days...


Set "Connect ..." 10 days & "Additional ..." 10 days.
(The first (Connect ...) can be more then 10 days)


The "Additional ..." can also be set to more then 10 if you edit
global_prefs_override.xml and edit the value to e.g.:
<work_buf_additional_days>15.000000</work_buf_additional_days>

but after that you can't close the Preferences window with [OK]
(in case you want to change some other parameter)
until you change the value (in the dialog) to 10 again.

3118) Message boards : Number crunching : Application: Ghost Detector - find out how big your Ghost Army is (Message 1037480)
Posted 30 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The app. wont work unless there is at least 1 WU in client_state.

Good point Zeus Fab3r, I originally did that on purpose as a safety mechanism.

Upon re-thinking it, its probably safe to allow GhostDet to work even if the PC has no Work Units on board. I'll add that to my to do list.


Then you have to think about "Divide by zero" check (in % computation)
as if somebody have 0 tasks in client_state.xml it is probable it has also 0 tasks "In progress".

3119) Message boards : Number crunching : Application: Ghost Detector - find out how big your Ghost Army is (Message 1037466)
Posted 30 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm sure any number of work arounds are possible but
built in would be better

not having to install Ghost detector on multiple machines
things each user would have to do / create multiple times

just install Ghost detector once & it uses existing files/apps


The way you want it (use what is shown in BOINC Manager's Tasks tab)
requires complete redesign of GhostDet (not read client_state.xml but communicate with the running boinc.exe)

I don't think ded1o1 will be eager to do it.

3120) Message boards : Number crunching : Application: Ghost Detector - find out how big your Ghost Army is (Message 1037420)
Posted 30 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Or you can try
http://www.teamviewer.com/
to access/control the remote computers
(you can do anything as if you are in front of the remote computer
so you can start/use the GhostDet installed on the remote computer -
only UAC have to be disabled to run "special" programs like RegEdit).

To gain access you choose a password (from 4 digits to 10 simbols).


I successfully used TeamViewer to connect to my daughters computer
(From Varna, Bulgaria to London - the response time (lag) is ~1 sec)
and install programs for her.

3121) Message boards : Number crunching : Application: Ghost Detector - find out how big your Ghost Army is (Message 1037401)
Posted 30 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Could a computer select be added ? from the boinc manager - select computer
to use it to check the ghosts on remote machines

or better yet use what the boinc manage is showing for tasks to check against
rather than the client_state.xml

Then you could select which computer you want to check via boinc manager
and then run your ghost checker

of course the once per day is problem


And a clear log would be nice


To do this:

1) Share your BOINC Data folders (so you can see the remote BOINC Data folders in local Explorer)

2) Make several empty folders (on local computer) and extract GhostDet v103.zip in all of them.
Make shortcuts to all the GhostDet.exe files, e.g. "GhostDet Local", "GhostDet Wife", "GhostDet 3", etc.

3) Start every GhostDet shortcut and in "Folder" field copy (from Explorer) the shared folder from 1)
(The only place where GhostDet stores its files is next to the currently started GhostDet.exe)


To clear the log just delete or rename SETI@home.csv file in corresponding GhostDet folder.
(Right-click any of the shortcuts and "Open file location" to go there)

3122) Message boards : Number crunching : backing up my folders (Message 1037257)
Posted 30 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Only your BOINC data directory (shown in first few messages in the Messages tab)
Compress it with WinRAR or 7-Zip (including all sub-directories of course)
(Exit BOINC first)

3123) Message boards : Number crunching : Application: Ghost Detector - find out how big your Ghost Army is (Message 1037178)
Posted 30 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Very minor (cosmetic) bug in GhostDet v1.03 -
when the number of Ghosts is 0 (zero) it shows only "%", not "0%"
both in the window and clipboard copy:
HostID = 3412467

      3 WU 'In Progress'
      3 WU on board
------------------------
      0 Ghost Work Units (%)


It's shown OK if > 0
HostID = 3412467

      8 WU 'In Progress'
      3 WU on board
------------------------
      5 Ghost Work Units (63%)



P.S.
Just for fun ;)

I edited one of the lines to:
26-Sep-2010 02:02,3412467,0,3,5

to get:




Then to:
26-Sep-2010 02:02,3412467,0,0,0

and get:




Added empty line and get:




And here's one dedicated to Paul Dirac's "Fish Problem":
http://www.fountainmagazine.com/article.php?ARTICLEID=1000

26-Sep-2010 09:09,3412467,-2,-1,3
HostID = 3412467

     -2 WU 'In Progress'
     -1 WU on board
------------------------
      3 Ghost Work Units (-150%)


:)

Note: to all that still wonder - all the errors above (after the P.S.) are
NOT generated by normal GhostDet program use,
they are induced by me by manually editing the results in the .csv file!

3124) Message boards : Number crunching : New rescheduler (Message 1036881)
Posted 29 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I used the 1.6 version to move units to my GPU and now the completion times are like 880 hours. Longest I have ever seen.


As you can see in this post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60712&nowrap=true#1027332

this was corrected in V 2.0 (and now the current version is 2.3)

3125) Message boards : Number crunching : Application: Ghost Detector - find out how big your Ghost Army is (Message 1036504)
Posted 26 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Very good FAQ about Ghosts :)

Maybe also add:
o It is then safe to Detach then Re-Attach to the project.
Note: If you are using Optimized Applications you will need to install them again after Detach/Re-Attach.
If you manually edit app_info.xml make copy of it before the Detach.


3126) Message boards : Number crunching : Application: Ghost Detector - find out how big your Ghost Army is (Message 1036438)
Posted 26 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

@ ded1o1

Do you have code to deal with scheduler request
Reporting completed tasks (= less 'In Progress' tasks)
and/or Requesting new tasks (= more 'In Progress' tasks)
if it happens in the middle of the 'In Progress' scan?

e.g. in this situation:
(499 'In Progress' tasks now)
GhostDet try offset=500 (get empty page)
GhostDet try offset=250 (get full page - 20 tasks)
GhostDet assumes that the number of 'In Progress' tasks is somewhere between 250-500

(at this moment Scheduler request is Requesting new tasks and get 20 for total of 519 'In Progress' tasks)

GhostDet try offset=375 (get full page - 20 tasks)
GhostDet try offset=437 (get full page - 20 tasks)
GhostDet try offset=468 (get full page - 20 tasks)
...

Where does this end?

3127) Message boards : Number crunching : Application: Ghost Detector - find out how big your Ghost Army is (Message 1036416)
Posted 26 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


@ msattler

You are right - this program can't correct the Ghost situation by itself.

But it makes the first step - gives information in easy and fast way.
We (and probably the people in the lab) do not know how much
server HDD space is consumed for months by this Ghost problem.

If the top crunchers like you use this program and report e.g.
"I have ~20000 Ghost tasks assigned to my computers = ~40% of the tasks are Ghosts"
the staff will be informed of how big is the problem
and will be more determined to resolve it shortly.

3128) Message boards : Number crunching : Application: Ghost Detector - find out how big your Ghost Army is (Message 1036411)
Posted 26 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


@ ded1o1

1) Add % value for Ghosts e.g.:
HostID = 1234567

    300 WU 'In Progress'
    200 WU on board
------------------------
    100 Ghost Work Units (33%)


2) Suggestion - put the proper (new) link in your signature:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/edit_forum_preferences_form.php

(so people who read only the first post do not use the old link)

e.g.:
_____________
Download GhostDet from this link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?yyy64lh5953d7

3129) Message boards : Number crunching : Application: Ghost Detector - find out how big your Ghost Army is (Message 1036001)
Posted 25 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Possible bug report:

Please check your code for finding the "In progress" tasks -
in browser I see 3 "In progress" tasks
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=3412467&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1

I checked this before and after running GhostDet but it shows:
HostID = 3412467

      8 WU 'In Progress'
      3 WU on board
------------------------
      5 Ghost Work Units

3130) Message boards : Number crunching : Your down time, I understand it is required...but (Message 1035940)
Posted 25 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Joe, thanks for the explanation, but if your servers are up, why can't my PC's upload/download? I'm thinking that with everybody trying to connect it's probably more a bandwidth issue into your network or the amount of data your servers can handle at one time. Are you kinda at a maximum now and need more computing power or just more disk space?

<< Jim >>


You seam to think you are speaking to people at SETI lab -
No, all of the responses here are from SETI participants (like you).

Some of them have knowledge of the in-lab "things" but no one of us have access to the servers.

The bandwidth is not at max now so there have to be another (in-lab) reason why we can't connect:
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;ranges=d%3Aw;view=octets

3131) Message boards : Number crunching : Application: Ghost Detector - find out how big your Ghost Army is (Message 1035904)
Posted 25 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Version in small .zip (1.02) works also on Win98





P.S.
I wonder - do this Graphs for gigabitethernet2_3 show that they enabled only uploads and Ghost resends?:
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;ranges=d%3Aw;view=octets

3132) Message boards : Number crunching : Application: Ghost Detector - find out how big your Ghost Army is (Message 1035491)
Posted 24 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If the app is hard on the database, I am not going to pursue it any further.


It is only as "hard" as if you look at 5-10 of your result pages -
it tries to find the last of the "In progress" pages by (smart) dividing the range (offset=) by 2

Also it has minimum 6 hours delay before the next test (try to press "Detect ..." button again)

It will be more "hard on the database" if you manually look ("Next 20", page by page)
to get to the end of your "In progress" pages.

3133) Message boards : Number crunching : Application: Ghost Detector - find out how big your Ghost Army is (Message 1035441)
Posted 24 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Version in small .zip (1.02) works on Vista 32





P.S.
Version in installer is 1.00 (extracted GhostDet.exe from GhostDet.CAB and checked)
Version in small .zip is 1.02


I think this site is most easy for upload and download (but the link changes for every upload):
http://www.datafilehost.com/

3134) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows Appcrash - help (Message 1035417)
Posted 24 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


I don't see how BOINC can interfere with Outlook or block it from starting.

Many things can cause random crashes but first check Temperatures
(in idle and heavy loaded system)

Temperature Monitoring Programs:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292

These programs show also Voltages - check if they are correct and do not fluctuate much (e.g. +12 V drop below 11.5)
(you may have weak PSU)


Why does my computer crash at random times?:
http://ask-leo.com/why_does_my_computer_crash_at_random_times.html

Top reasons for random, fatal crashes in Windows:
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article07-200

Windows 7 - Random crashes:
http://www.sevenforums.com/crashes-debugging/62105-random-crashes-different-causes.html

as this task:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1693802704
have "exit code -1073741819 (0xc0000005)"
read also:
Unrecoverable error for result "result" (- exit code -1073741819 (0xc0000005))
http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?language=1&view=98&sessionID=4a5312b8142af63e24a895bb9d9f0892

3135) Message boards : Number crunching : New Message from servers: "Resent Lost Task" (Message 1035109)
Posted 21 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


The post by Josef W. Segur explains the only case when this new resend feature is activated:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=61503&nowrap=true#1034893

So don't expect the resends unless error occurs when Scheduler request reports some results.

3136) Message boards : Number crunching : What did I do wrong? (Message 1034475)
Posted 19 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You managed to re-brand 6.09 -> 6.08 in previous installer (for compatibility with ReSchedule 1.9)
which involves modifying of client_state.xml so I think you have the parsing/modifying code already. (?)

3137) Message boards : Number crunching : What did I do wrong? (Message 1034467)
Posted 19 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Instead of modifying of client_state.xml you can just warn the user
(as you do if boinc.exe is running)

E.g.:
"You have work units marked as <version_num>528</version_num>
These work units will be deleted if you continue with the install.
Are you sure to proceed with install?"

3138) Message boards : Number crunching : What did I do wrong? (Message 1034454)
Posted 19 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


The old app_info.xml included <app_version> section for setiathome_enhanced 5.28 (so your CPU work was marked as 5.28)

e.g.:
<app_info>

    <app>
        <name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
    </app>
.............
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>528</version_num>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>XXXXXXXXXXX.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>

</app_info>


and the new app_info.xml includes only 6.03

This (maybe) means you did not update opt apps for years -
several Lunatics installers included both 5.28 and 6.03 versions.

They decided to remove section for 5.28 in the last installer
as they think (obviously wrong) that no one have WUs still marked as 5.28
after about 2 years of existence of 6.03 version.

3139) Message boards : Number crunching : New rescheduler (Message 1034326)
Posted 19 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


I don't think the delay of 4 minutes is caused by heavy CPU usage
but is caused by heavy HDD usage.

When you press [Test] and "Reading WUs" message appears
in reality BoincRescheduler copies every new WU to the Temp (capture) folder (overwriting capture-wu.xml)
(which is big overhead on computers with 1000s of new downloaded WUs in cache)
then reads the contents of the WU copy (capture-wu.xml) to search for <true_angle_range>.

If you press [Test] again it will go in few seconds.

( I'm not sure why Fred decided to copy (read/write operation) every WU and analyze the copy (capture-wu.xml)
and not analyze directly (only read operation) the original WU files?
)

Do you measure the time for first [Test], second [Test],
direct [Run] (no [Test] used first) or [Run] after [Test]?

3140) Questions and Answers : Wish list : BOINC Wish List (Message 1034096)
Posted 18 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


"but it switches on me while actively downloading":
Are you sure? - check the messages for something like this:

17-Sep-2010 03:41:42 [SETI@home] Started download of 05ap10ab.27829.3103.10.10.62
17-Sep-2010 03:41:47 [SETI@home] Temporarily failed download of 05ap10ab.27829.3103.10.10.62: HTTP error
17-Sep-2010 03:41:47 [SETI@home] Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of 05ap10ab.27829.3103.10.10.62
17-Sep-2010 03:41:57 [SETI@home] [error] File 05ap10ab.27829.3103.10.10.62 has wrong size: expected 375331, got 205688

(this type of error is at server side (overloaded server))

Select the download you want to resume (big % done) and press the
[Retry Now] button


You can create cc_config.xml
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration
http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?language=1&view=91
http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Cc_config.xml


Use
<max_file_xfers>1</max_file_xfers>

to limit "Maximum number of simultaneous file transfers (default 8)" to 1 at a time.

3141) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Machine not getting enough CUDA work, DCF totally off... No idea what to adjust (Message 1034080)
Posted 18 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


You can use the New rescheduler (BoincRescheduler)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60712
http://www.efmer.eu/forum_tt/index.php?topic=428.0

to limit the DCF:

"
config.xml

This file is for changing settings and debugging.
This file must be placed together with the exe and has to be called config.xml.
If you don't use it, rename it to e.g. xconfig.xml.
<config>
   <seti>
      <vlar>0.13</vlar>   
      <vhar>1.127</vhar>
      <dcf_min>0.1</dcf_min>
      <dcf_max>0.2</dcf_max>
      <est_ratio_cpu_min>0.5</est_ratio_cpu_min>
      <est_ratio_cpu_max>1.5</est_ratio_cpu_max>
      <est_ratio_gpu_min>0.5</est_ratio_gpu_min>
      <est_ratio_gpu_max>1.5</est_ratio_gpu_max>
   </seti>
</config>

<vlar> Override default VLAR value.
<vhar> Override default VHAR value.
<dcf_min> Minimum duration_correction_factor. If the read value in the state file, is less than this value, this value is used to replace the existing duration_correction_factor.
<dcf_max> Maximum duration_correction_factor. If the read value in the state file, is more than this value, this value is used to replace the existing duration_correction_factor
You need to set both <dcf_min>and <dcf_max>values! A value of 0 may NOT be used.
"


3142) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI AstroPulse released (Message 1033430)
Posted 17 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
7. I never game, and my new host has a fanless HD4550 card. I have decent case cooling support for it (an 800 rpm 120mm fan in a side port right over it, and no other add-on cards with power dissipation above the nuisance level). Am I in danger of greatly exceeding the previous temperature of my GPU? Any practical suggestions of monitoring tools, throttling methods, and practical temperatures of concern. I have and plan to watch GPU-Z. It reports 60C with 0% reported workload now, though the actual metal cage over the fins is only warm, not painfully hot.


Try TThrottle for automatic Temperature regulation
or some of the other Temperature Monitoring Programs:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292

3143) Message boards : Number crunching : 2 issues with nvidia gpus (Message 1032342)
Posted 9 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
there shouldn't be anything at all running on the computer other than a screensaver and background process. the only time it's ever used these days is when my daughter wants to go to dora or diego sites and game, but she can't do that without my help so I would know if she was messing with it.

how do I edit priority on the cuda app?


Why do you use a screensaver?
CUDA computing + any 3D screensaver (including BOINC screensaver) is not a good idea.
Set screensaver to "<None>" and use just option to sleep the Monitor after e.g. 15-20 minutes.

If you want from time to time to look at the screensaver make shortcut to it for manual starting:
Go to Windows directory
Find boinc.scr
Make shortcut to it (Send To > Desktop)

Set the screensaver to go Blank after 5-10 minutes (just in case).

What do you mean by "background process"?
Do you mean SETI apps or something else?


You do not need to "edit priority on the cuda app" - just make sure that GPU is free -
e.g. do not run for a long time 3D screensavers
and exit any 3D game or Flash game (browser) when you go to bed.


looks like my gtx 260 has been stuck with lots of vlars, but it is still getting them even after I ran rescheduler. I'll check that out again tonight. If it's still doing it should I just manually abort all the gpu tasks and allow it to "start over" with new tasks, then run rescheduler right away?


Do you have selected in the rescheduler
"Always move VLARs to CPU"?

You can also change the "0" (zero) values to something that you want for the particular computer, e.g.:





You (and all of CUDA hosts) will continue to receive VLARs in next months
so run the rescheduler regularly.

To "abort all the gpu tasks and allow it to "start over" with new tasks"
is like you want to cut your fingers when you just need to cut your nails.

3144) Questions and Answers : Windows : Is there a way to find missing WU's (Message 1031717)
Posted 8 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Post some 20-30 lines of messages so we can think about what is the problem.

3145) Questions and Answers : Windows : Haven't been able to connect for over a month (Message 1031499)
Posted 6 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
First things first.

BOINC.exe is not running. We need to fix that first.



The messages show that BOINC.exe is running!

Strings like "Running under account", "not assigned yet", "Reading preferences override file"
are found only in BOINC.exe (not in boincmgr.exe or any of the .dll files)

3146) Questions and Answers : Windows : Haven't been able to connect for over a month (Message 1031486)
Posted 6 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This is what I got.
06-Sep-2010 16:38:47 [---] Starting BOINC client version 6.10.58 for windows_intelx86
06-Sep-2010 16:38:47 [---] log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
06-Sep-2010 16:38:47 [---] Libraries: libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.3
06-Sep-2010 16:38:47 [---] Data directory: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC
06-Sep-2010 16:38:47 [---] Running under account James C. Franke
06-Sep-2010 16:38:48 [---] Project for statistics_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml not found - ignoring
06-Sep-2010 16:38:48 [---] Processor: 1 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) 64 FX-51 Processor [Family 15 Model 5 Stepping 8]
06-Sep-2010 16:38:48 [---] Processor: 1.00 MB cache
06-Sep-2010 16:38:48 [---] Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx lm 3dnowext 3dnow
06-Sep-2010 16:38:48 [---] OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Home x86 Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00)
06-Sep-2010 16:38:48 [---] Memory: 3.00 GB physical, 4.84 GB virtual
06-Sep-2010 16:38:48 [---] Disk: 111.78 GB total, 53.88 GB free
06-Sep-2010 16:38:48 [---] Local time is UTC -4 hours
06-Sep-2010 16:38:48 [---] No usable GPUs found
06-Sep-2010 16:38:48 [---] All projects have zero resource share; setting to 100
06-Sep-2010 16:38:48 [] URL ; Computer ID not assigned yet; resource share 100
06-Sep-2010 16:38:48 [---] General prefs: from http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ (last modified 17-Dec-2007 00:59:29)
06-Sep-2010 16:38:48 [---] Computer location: home
06-Sep-2010 16:38:48 [---] General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
06-Sep-2010 16:38:48 [---] Reading preferences override file
06-Sep-2010 16:38:48 [---] Preferences:
06-Sep-2010 16:38:48 [---] max memory usage when active: 614.16MB
06-Sep-2010 16:38:48 [---] max memory usage when idle: 2763.72MB
06-Sep-2010 16:38:49 [---] max disk usage: 10.00GB
06-Sep-2010 16:38:49 [---] don't use GPU while active
06-Sep-2010 16:38:49 [---] suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 25 %
06-Sep-2010 16:38:49 [---] (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager)



The lines in Bold look strange maybe because your
account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml
file is broken
( do NOT post the contents of account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml
- it contains your <authenticator>1234567890abcdefghijklmnopq</authenticator>
)


In OK condition it will have http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ after the URL:
05-Sep-2010 19:08:46 [SETI@home] URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID: 3412467; location: home; project prefs: default
05-Sep-2010 19:08:46 [SETI@home] General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 14-Feb-2010 07:36:13)


Detach from SETI@home
Install BOINC again (to fix possibly corrupted BOINC files)
and then attach to SETI@home again (this have to fix possibly corrupted SETI files).

Do this when the SETI servers are OK (scheduling server: Running)

3147) Questions and Answers : Windows : Haven't been able to connect for over a month (Message 1031441)
Posted 6 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Yes I boincmanager.exe and boinctray.exe running.


The files to look for are:
boincmgr.exe
boinc.exe

(boinctray.exe is not important in this case)

And where are the startup messages - copy them (~30 lines) and post here.
(they may say more to us than just one line "I get XXYYZZZ message/error")

3148) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows Appcrash - help (Message 1031364)
Posted 6 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


If you think that other SETI files are corrupted on your machine
you can download and replace them manually (in <Your BOINC Data folder>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)

Get the "new" files from:
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/


( If you get:
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /sah/download_fanout/ on this server.

press F5 to reload the page.
)

3149) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows Appcrash - help (Message 1031344)
Posted 6 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Your SETI@home Enhanced 6.08 (cuda) and Astropulse v505 v5.05 (CPU) tasks seam to run OK:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=4965900
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=4965900&offset=0&show_names=0&state=2

"Consecutive valid tasks: 20"

1) You can try to install optimized apps to see if the problem will be solved:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54288&nowrap=true#1029244

2) Or you can try to
Exit BOINC completely (No boincmgr.exe and boinc.exe shown in Windows Task Manager)
Rename setiathome_6.03_windows_intelx86.exe to e.g. OLD_setiathome_6.03_windows_intelx86.exe
Start BOINC

This will force BOINC to download again new copy of setiathome_6.03_windows_intelx86.exe
but may delete your (only 4 at the moment) SETI@home Enhanced v6.03 tasks


What is the length (in bytes) of your setiathome_6.03_windows_intelx86.exe ?
Can you generate MD5 checksum of your setiathome_6.03_windows_intelx86.exe and post it here?

To generate MD5 checksum you can use e.g.
HxD - Freeware Hex Editor and Disk Editor
http://mh-nexus.de/en/hxd/

"Checksum-Generator: Checksum, CRCs, Custom CRC, SHA-1, SHA-512, MD5, ..."

Or
Total Commander
http://www.ghisler.com/


3) You can download setiathome_6.03_windows_intelx86.exe, rename the old copy
and put the new copy in its place.
I think the download link is this:
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setiathome_6.03_windows_intelx86.exe

406 016 bytes
MD5 (generated by me after I downloaded the file from the link above):
D53249AADB1D72CC19DB36359E63425A setiathome_6.03_windows_intelx86.exe (Total Commander generated)
D53249AADB1D72CC19DB36359E63425A (HxD generated)


4) What antivirus products do you use?
Try to disable the (resident, On-access) antivirus protection (for a few minutes)
just before you start BOINC

3150) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows Appcrash - help (Message 1030886)
Posted 4 Sep 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


This messages do not show any crash - just too busy (overloaded) internet at server side.
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets;ranges=d%3Aw

3151) Questions and Answers : Windows : Changing CPU Clock crashes SETI@home running wu's (Message 1029658)
Posted 30 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Computer Clock back stops BOINC
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=45717&nowrap=true

3152) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lunatics' Unified Installer (Optimized SETI) (Message 1029244)
Posted 28 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Updated Unified Installers, v0.37 for Windows are at:
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9

For Windows 32 & 64 bit (NT/XP/Vista/Win7, x86 & x64 versions), changes since last release (v0.36) are:

- Fermi compatible CUDA 3.0 build introduced. Supports all CUDA enabled GPUs (theoretically)
- Slightly lowered video RAM Usage. Should run more happily on integrated GPUs and lower VRAM cards.
- Minimum driver version 197.13+ (256+ series recommended, Current 258.96 WHQL driver highly recommended )
- V12 builds (both VLARKill & noKill) are deprecated.
- reduced susceptibility to '-12' errors over all prior releases (stock & opt). They still occur, but fairly rarely.
- Some mild Fermi optimizations applied. The reliability and performance make this the currently recommended build for Fermi.
- Some internal restructuring & testing of experimental code, applicable to future optimization (All CUDA GPUs)

For Windows 98/ME:
- No changes. nVidia does not support CUDA on these operating systems, so no changes are applicable. Installer revision remains at last release 0.36.

WARNINGS:
- As always USE at YOUR OWN RISK, and 'Your mileage may vary'
- A CUDA Installation will install application support for 6.08(cuda), 6.09(cuda23) , and 6.10(cuda_fermi) app_versions. Which one BOINC actually chooses to mark your work doesn't matter, the tasks are all the same. Unlike stock, this build is intended to run on a wide range of hardware, so all versions are the same. This has consequences if your current tasks cache is marked with something other than any of the 3 stock standard version/plan_class labels, in that you would need to drain your cache first, to avoid losing work.

- Though not 'essential', <flops> app_info entries are highly 'recommended', but this installer doesn't put them in. We haven't come up with a good way for the installer to do this automatically yet, but when we do you can be sure there'll be another installer update.

Known Issues:
- Not Compatible with Marius' Rescheduler 1.9. It is recommended to either stop rescheduling (due to server changes) or use Fred's variant which allows prevention of '-177' errors. Those errors are a feature of server side changes to the way task elapsed times are estimated, rather than internal to the science application. Fred's variant has some support to prevent these errors if they become a problem for you.

New rescheduler
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60712
http://www.efmer.eu/forum_tt/index.php?topic=428.0



Contents of the Lunatics_Win32v0.37_AP505r409_AKv8b_Cudax32f.exe





Cuda_x32f.aistub:
<app_info>
    <app>
        <name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>Lunatics_x32f_win32_cuda30_preview.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>cudart32_30_14.dll</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>cufft32_30_14.dll</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>608</version_num>
        <plan_class>cuda</plan_class>
        <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus>
        <coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>Lunatics_x32f_win32_cuda30_preview.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
         </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
	       <file_name>cudart32_30_14.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>cufft32_30_14.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>609</version_num>
        <plan_class>cuda23</plan_class>
        <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus>
        <coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>Lunatics_x32f_win32_cuda30_preview.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
         </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
	       <file_name>cudart32_30_14.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>cufft32_30_14.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>610</version_num>
        <plan_class>cuda_fermi</plan_class>
        <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus>
        <coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>Lunatics_x32f_win32_cuda30_preview.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
         </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
	       <file_name>cudart32_30_14.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>cufft32_30_14.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
</app_info>


3153) Message boards : Number crunching : CPU Tcase (Message 1028497)
Posted 25 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Well i use both Everest UE, and TThrottle, where both show core temp of each core, and both show CPU temp, where the CPU temp is lower then most of the cores, bot with TThrottle, i can set the temp, so the program slows down the CPU so it wont exceed that temp. Just wondered, what you guys would recommend to set it on, when the "maximum" temp by the manufacture is 67.5 C. should i set it as much as 10 degrees lower, so it would be 57.5 C?
All inputs are very very good inputs to me :D :P
Thanks guys!


I think TThrottle measures/shows/uses only the internal CPU cores temperature (measured by internal in-the-CPU-chip diode(s))

Temperature Monitoring Programs
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292


Core i7 (Bloomfield) Socket 1366
Core i7 920 (quad 2.66GHz - 4x 256KB - 8MB L3)
Core Voltage (0.8V~1.375V)
Vmax 1.55V
Max. Core Amp. 145A
Thermal Design Power 130W
Max. Cover Temp. 67.9°C

http://mysite.verizon.net/pchardwarelinks/elec.htm

Usually the Max. allowed internal (TJunc) CPU temperature is about 5-10°C higher
than Max. Cover (TCase) Temp. (this means temperature of the "Cover" or "Case" of the CPU - not the computer case)

So maybe the Max. TJunc temperature of this CPU is e.g. 75°C
and TThrottle setting of 65°C for Core(s) temperature is (maybe) safe.
(But if this was my CPU I will use 60°C limit in TThrottle and try better cooling to keep it even under 55°C)

I wonder what Core Temp
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
is showing about TJuncMax (or TCaseMax?) and Cores temps of your i7 920 CPU.

3154) Message boards : Number crunching : Astropulse time estimates are climbing (Message 1027675)
Posted 23 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I think the server adjusts estimates only after the task is validated.

3155) Message boards : Number crunching : Any possibility of rebuilding client_state.xml? (Message 1027671)
Posted 23 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If you run Reschedule you may be able to rebuild it from the last client_state backup file created by the program when a reschedule was done.

Do a backup of your BOINC directory first in case someone comes up with a better idea :-)

T.A.


This means NOT actually to RUN the New (Fred's) Rescheduler -
it means: go to the Rescheduler's Temp (capture) folder
and manually copy capture-state.xml to BOINC Data folder
and rename it to client_state.xml
(Exit BOINC first)

If you use the old Reschedule 1.9 - its backup files are in the
BOINC Data folder named client_state2010*.xml

3156) Message boards : Number crunching : Just for fun: Classic SETI in Action! (Message 1027048)
Posted 21 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Another (off-topic) question related to the reliability of HDD drives:

Which of (your old) drives fail and which are good?
Brand, size, age, problem?

(What brand of HDD you will buy in the future and which - no?)

3157) Message boards : Number crunching : Just for fun: Classic SETI in Action! (Message 1026760)
Posted 20 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:



It appears that SETI@home 3.08 is about 40% faster than version 3.03 (December 2000)



I found v3.06 from March 2002 on an old HD. Let me know if you're interested in comparing these two versions to one in the middle to see how efficiency progressed.

Brent


OK :)

<snip>



Sorry, but no go. The files were corrupted when I went to work with them. :(
I'll look around some more and post again if I find another old copy which works.

Brent


I wonder how do you find that the files are corrupted?
What did you do and what happened?

E.g. you can't edit user_info.sah with Notepad -
after you save it the format will not be what SETI@home.exe expected:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59278&nowrap=true#994205

If that is the case put the fake user_info.sah from "my" package
in SETI@home directory, put some Classic work_unit.sah and try again.

3158) Message boards : Number crunching : Just for fun: Classic SETI in Action! (Message 1025973)
Posted 18 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:



It appears that SETI@home 3.08 is about 40% faster than version 3.03 (December 2000)



I found v3.06 from March 2002 on an old HD. Let me know if you're interested in comparing these two versions to one in the middle to see how efficiency progressed.

Brent


OK :)

First move user_info.sah out of SETI@home directory (it can contain your email address)
Then compress SETI@home directory (.rar, .zip, .7z - the file will be less than 1 MB)
Use e.g. http://www.datafilehost.com/ to upload the file
Post the download link here or in Private message to me (as you prefer)

3159) Questions and Answers : Windows : Küçük bir GRID nasıl yapılır? ( Turkish support ) (Message 1025960)
Posted 18 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Why do you need GRID?

If you just want to participate in SETI@home -
Go to each computer and:
1) Install BOINC
2) Attach to SETI@home using the same e-mail address (shown in your ACCOUNT http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/home.php)

3160) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Optimized apps (Message 1025450)
Posted 16 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Read this thread:
Lunatics' Unified Installer (Optimized SETI)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54288

Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.36 post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54288&nowrap=true#994550

You just select the apps you want in the dialog.
Use CPU-Z
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

to find out what to select (the max SSEx as appropriate for your CPU).

The apps are inside the Lunatics' Unified Installer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54288&nowrap=true#998977

3161) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Visual representation of frequencies (Message 1025443)
Posted 16 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Maybe you already found this old but interesting info?:

How SETI@home works
http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/about_seti/about_seti_at_home_1.html

About The SETI@home Screensaver
http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/screensaver/index.html


And see the warning on Radio Frequency Interference page:
http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/rfi/index.html

"If you see some evidence of a signal on your screen it is very important that you NOT contact the media until the signal is verified and checked.
False alarms severely damage the credibility of SETI@home and all serious SETI programs. Be patient.
If there is a real signal, we promise to inform you and keep you "in the loop" concerning the progress of the search."

3162) Message boards : Number crunching : Just for fun: Classic SETI in Action! (Message 1024291)
Posted 12 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


I made a "New" ;) package based on SETI@home 3.08 (April 2003)

Contains:
SETI@home.exe
SETIhome.scr
2 work_unit.sah
(in .zip) (find 43 more in Message 1015740 I "Reply" to)
(I also included again WU2WAV Version 0.5.7W by Jan Knutar)


SETI@home_3.08__BilBg.rar (1.3 MB, two links for the same file):

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-0529ddea.html

http://mail.dir.bg/~bil/SETI@home_3.08__BilBg.rar

(Just extract files and run SETI@home.exe - no install needed)



It appears that SETI@home 3.08 is about 40% faster than version 3.03 (December 2000)

Comparing % done for 2 hour CPU time (using same work_unit) on AMD K6-2+ @ 524 MHz, Win98









The same 8.78% progress took 20 minutes on AMD Athlon 64 3500+ @ 2415 MHz, Vista
(120/20 = 6 times faster than on K6-2+)






Shortcuts on the Desktop:






( Notes:

The installer setiathome_win_3_08.exe can be found here:
http://www.filewatcher.com/m/setiathome_win_3_08.exe.791552.0.0.html
(5 links - some work, some no)

The command line client setiathome-3.08.i386-winnt-cmdline.exe can be found here:
http://www.oldurn.com/seti@home/
http://www.oldurn.com/seti@home/setiathome-3.08.i386-winnt-cmdline.exe
. ( Some AntiVirus programs "think" it is a malware (wrong)
. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60922&nowrap=true#1023570
. )

The work_unit.sah used by default (and shown on the pictures above)
is TLCwork_unit.zip from Message 999172 by Josef W. Segur
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59278&nowrap=true#999172

The Wallpaper (from Scott Linder) used for the Desktop is from this page:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/wallpaper.php
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/user_images/swp2.jpg

)


3163) Message boards : Number crunching : Reactivate old account (Message 1024248)
Posted 11 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... and maybe a password.


OK I quote myself now: " ... but can't remember the password any more."


You don't need password, just enter the e-mail address of the Classic account:

Claim your SETI@home Classic workunits
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php

But you can't do it twice - you already have
SETI@home classic workunits 1,878
SETI@home classic CPU time 24,680 hours

listed in your account.

3164) Message boards : Number crunching : WU'snot advancing (Message 1023843)
Posted 9 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
One is at .141, one at .080 and the other 0, because I aborted one to see what would happen.


Other then that, it ran fine till a couple days ago, so I really doubt it's an "AMD" issue, but anythings possible right....


Do you remember installing something (AV program, Firewall, etc.)
or changing some "security" settings "a couple of days ago"?

Do you see heavy hard disk activity?

3165) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU overheating ? (Message 1023837)
Posted 9 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You can try TThrottle for automatic Temperature regulation
- you can set max temp for GPU and TThrottle will start/pause
the GPU computing apps to maintain the max temp set by you.

Temperature Monitoring Programs
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292

3166) Message boards : Number crunching : Lost jobs (Message 1023834)
Posted 9 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Hi,

After accidentally having removed SETI@home from the Boinc manager, we would love to be able to resume the lost jobs, is this possible as they are not available in the job list anymore, but still says in progress on the SETI@home stats page.

Best Regards
opstad


How did you "removed SETI@home from the BOINC Manager"?
You mean Detach?

"they are not available in the job list anymore":
Do you see [Show All Tasks] button on the left in BOINC Manager?

3167) Message boards : Number crunching : Why no AP WU's? (Message 1023825)
Posted 8 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


You configured it right but mind that
"Astropulse" and "Astropulse v5" workunits do not exist anymore.

Only "Astropulse v505" exist and based on
"accept work from other applications? yes"
you get a mix of SETI@home Enhanced and Astropulse v505 WUs.

There is no specific switch for "Astropulse v505" so
"accept work from other applications? yes"
is the only way to get it.

( If you have selected also
SETI@home Enhanced : Yes
it's very improbable to get Astropulse v505 WUs (short supply)
- you'll get AP only if no MB (multibeam) tasks are in the server's
ready-to-send queue
)

3168) Message boards : Number crunching : boinc domain which redirect to BOINC? (Message 1023784)
Posted 8 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Try:
http://www.go.to/

I registered:
Go.To/BOINC
(Copy/Paste or just Type it in Address Bar)


Try it:

http://go.to/boinc

http://go.to/BOINC

http://Go.To/BOINC


At the same site You can register e.g.:
Come.To/BOINC


3169) Message boards : Number crunching : platforms supported (Message 1023775)
Posted 8 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thanks I guess I will just wait for an OpenBSD stock app. I miss the good ole days when we had a setiathome pkg for OpenBSD. Great reading at Lunatics. I have about 10 OpenBSD servers stiitng idle.

BCL


Then you'll wait forever I'm afraid ... :(

Go for 3-rd party apps

3170) Questions and Answers : Windows : Seti Classic executable is malware? (Message 1023570)
Posted 8 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


I found setiathome-3.08.i386-winnt-cmdline.exe here:
http://www.oldurn.com/seti@home/
http://www.oldurn.com/seti@home/setiathome-3.08.i386-winnt-cmdline.exe

Scanned it:
http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/59200f9e545801848569cc5a9316902b368240508b1ceb0daf10c9a0ce71a628-1281226466
http://virscan.org/report/84195068cb61884967d80ac7b6f8fa61.html

It is reported as e.g.:
NetTool/Win32.Calc-SETI@Home.gen
ApplicUnsaf.Win32.PSW.CalcSETIAtHome.a
W32/HackTool.AMY (???!) (F-Prot)
not-a-virus:NetTool.Win32.Calc-SETIAtHome.a (Kaspersky) (why they report "not-a-virus" in red?)

but not by widely used:
NOD32
Symantec
McAfee
BitDefender
AVG
Avast
( The only "famous" AV which give warning are
Kaspersky & F-Prot
)

3171) Questions and Answers : Windows : Seti Classic executable is malware? (Message 1023559)
Posted 7 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I do not have the command line client but there are no warnings for:

The installer setiathome_win_3_08.exe
http://virscan.org/report/fe4ee5b15213d2a4bc069e9cb94bb4dc.html
http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/4bb03cc61e5bc14703087cd6cdaaa72ff5a51793d907b20991b4feb17be1bf5b-1281205992

and the installed (graphical) client SETI@home.exe 3.03
http://virscan.org/report/3474c249b0521137853f3760e475de04.html
http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/5434f173cdf932bdab8435a8191fd2aaba25ae7aa686cc8721e6201368f6cdf0-1281206098

3172) Message boards : Number crunching : astropulse validation problems (Message 1022779)
Posted 5 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

10 Jul 2010 is the date when the task is Sent to your computer.
But it happens it never arrives to you and your computer never computes it.

If it shows in red you (your BOINC) did not report it.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=630604214

Are you sure the same Astropulse v505 v5.05 task:
ap_21mr07aa_B5_P1_00366_20100709_22725.wu_1

was on your computer (search in stdoutdae.txt)?

3173) Message boards : Number crunching : Validating error? (Message 1022722)
Posted 5 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

This is absolutely normal during the outage -
they will be checked (validated) when "sah_validateX" processes are running
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html

3174) Message boards : Number crunching : Validating error? (Message 1022717)
Posted 5 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Just for "fun":
3 good (I think) CPU WUs in "Validate error" and other 3 resends "In progress"
(total replication = 9 )

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=574204491

3175) Message boards : Number crunching : Disconnected from BOINC (Message 1022693)
Posted 5 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Hi, I've been using BOINC for about two months, and today I got disconnected from every project I'm running. Everything was working fine until I went into Seti@home to change some preferences, and when my computer connected with the Seti@home site, all of my projects disappeared and on the bottom of the manager it says disconnected. How can I get my projects back, and can someone figure out what I did wrong?


"on the bottom of the manager it says disconnected":
This have nothing to do with any project servers - hopefully all is there and actively computing (check in Windows Task Manager).

This just means that BOINC Manager (boincmgr.exe) can't connect to boinc.exe
locally inside your computer so BOINC Manager can't show you what boinc.exe is doing.

(boinc.exe does all the job, boincmgr.exe is just GUI you use to monitor and control what boinc.exe is doing)

"what I did wrong":
Nothing, unless you changed your Firewall settings (e.g. install new security software)
This "can't connect to client" happens from time to time for no apparent reasons.

The easiest thing to do is exit BOINC and start it again.
If that doesn't work - try reboot (restart Windows)
If again no joy - ask for more help.

3176) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Error Message...... (Message 1022683)
Posted 5 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


If you want to use web preferences also wait for the end of the
"3 day data distribution outage" - I think your BOINC can't know you changed them
until it can connect to the scheduling server which is now Disabled.


( The last web preferences that your BOINC received from the servers are in the file:
global_prefs.xml

The last local preferences that you set in BOINC Manager are in the file:
global_prefs_override.xml
(this file may not exist)

If any setting is present in both files (e.g. <run_gpu_if_user_active>)
BOINC uses the one from global_prefs_override.xml (local)

As Gundolf said use the [Clear] button if you want to remove local preferences
(this deletes the file global_prefs_override.xml)

And never use [OK] button to just close the local preferences window of BOINC Manager -
use [Cancel] or press <Esc>
)


Of course if you prefer to use local preferences (I use them)
change the settings and press [OK] :)

3177) Message boards : Number crunching : Is it allowed to copy MB WU's, from a 'death host', to a 'living one' , or are they specific for 'that'host or security issues? (Message 1022677)
Posted 5 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"Tried the RESchudule 'method'":
And what do you mean by "the RESchudule 'method'"?

3178) Message boards : Number crunching : New rescheduler (Message 1022596)
Posted 4 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


What will happen if BOINC rescheduler is running in auto mode
and someone decides to reinstall BOINC but move the Data directory?

( I think the BOINC installer can move the Data directory automatically
(with all the files) if you are reinstalling over existing BOINC
but choose another non-default directory location.

Or user can move the Data directory manually and then reinstall BOINC
)


When BOINC rescheduler reads the registry to find the BOINC directories?

What will happen if BOINC rescheduler tries to process client_state.xml but:
a) Data directory is moved manually but BOINC still not reinstalled
b) Data directory is moved, BOINC reinstalled, Rescheduler starts auto-test/run

(I ask because most users know to exit BOINC before installing BOINC_setup
(or BOINC_setup will kill the relevant processes)
but may forget to exit other BOINC related programs before doing something to
the BOINC Data directory
)


You copy client_state.xml from BOINC Data directory to your Temp (capture) directory as capture-state.xml
Then read and process capture-state.xml to create new client_state.xml

Before you copy the new client_state.xml back to the BOINC Data directory
do you compare (at least by size and timestamp)
.....\BOINC_Data\client_state.xml & .....\capture\capture-state.xml
to see are they still identical?

( Again - user may try "strange" things (or just forget that not only BOINC manipulates client_state.xml)
e.g. user edits client_state.xml to change DCF and saves it just when BOINC rescheduler processes in auto mode.
Or runs ReSchedule 1.9 and clicks [Run] forgetting that BOINC rescheduler is in the systray and can auto-run at any (scheduled) moment.
)

3179) Message boards : Number crunching : Is it allowed to copy MB WU's, from a 'death host', to a 'living one' , or are they specific for 'that'host or security issues? (Message 1022590)
Posted 4 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

After installing BOINC to:
C:\BOINC_Verster\BOINC_P
C:\BOINC_Verster\BOINC_Dead

1) Use the new BOINC rescheduler
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60712
to move all WUs to the CPU (v6.03)

2) Install Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.36 choosing the proper CPU & GPU apps for the computer
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9

3) Use again BOINC rescheduler to move part of the WUs to the GPU -
BOINC rescheduler will brand them the correct way (correct GPU version)

4) Start BOINC



I'm wrong (again)!

BOINC rescheduler needs "good" client_state.xml
so between 2) and 3) do:

2b) Start BOINC, wait 1-2 minutes, Exit BOINC (always check in Windows Task Manager there is no boincmgr.exe and no boinc.exe)

This will update the client_state.xml to the new apps installed by Lunatics' Unified Installer.
Since all the WUs are for CPU at this moment and proper CPU app is installed
no WU will be discarded by running BOINC.

3180) Message boards : Number crunching : Is it allowed to copy MB WU's, from a 'death host', to a 'living one' , or are they specific for 'that'host or security issues? (Message 1022534)
Posted 4 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I forget to mention that it will be good to Exit all programs which monitor BOINC or its folders
(like eFMer tools, BoincLogX, BoincView, ...)
before (and not started during) the entire procedure.

3181) Message boards : Number crunching : New rescheduler (Message 1022517)
Posted 4 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


So after BOINC rescheduler have this info supplied in the Other tab:

Project url: "http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/"
Application: "astropulse_v505"

it checks (in app_info.xml ? Or in client_state.xml ?) that there are more than one app Version
for "astropulse_v505":

Application astropulse_v505, Version: 505
Application astropulse_v505, Version: 506 , Plan class: ati13ati

and then can re-brand WUs: Astropulse 5.05 <--> 5.06 ?


You are maybe bored by my suggestions (I can't even use the rescheduler - I have no CUDA or ATI card)
but a list box to choose from the available "Applications"
(which have more than one app Version (except SETI MB which have its own tab))
will be very convenient.

3182) Message boards : Number crunching : Is it allowed to copy MB WU's, from a 'death host', to a 'living one' , or are they specific for 'that'host or security issues? (Message 1022509)
Posted 4 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You will need additionally to change the apps for successful computation
before running BOINC

For a standard, run of the mill, data directory change-over you don't have to do all that.

So in this case, Fred's better bet is to figure out what died in that host and replace it.

Or run the Lunatics app before running BOINC, to change to the more correct (for the new host) versions, then check the app_info.xml file whether or not all the application numbers are correct for the work in the project directory.

Or just forget about the whole endeavour.


I think he already forgot. But if not - he can:

After installing BOINC to:
C:\BOINC_Verster\BOINC_P
C:\BOINC_Verster\BOINC_Dead

1) Use the new BOINC rescheduler
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60712
to move all WUs to the CPU (v6.03)

2) Install Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.36 choosing the proper CPU & GPU apps for the computer
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9

3) Use again BOINC rescheduler to move part of the WUs to the GPU -
BOINC rescheduler will brand them the correct way (correct GPU version)

4) Start BOINC

3183) Message boards : Number crunching : New rescheduler (Message 1022506)
Posted 4 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


In the "Other" tab can you supply a list box to select an app from the available apps you find in the BOINC/projects directories?

I'm not sure what is expected in the "Application" field -
the name of the .exe, the path to the .exe, ...?

3184) Message boards : Number crunching : Is it allowed to copy MB WU's, from a 'death host', to a 'living one' , or are they specific for 'that'host or security issues? (Message 1022500)
Posted 4 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The biggest deal is the Similar hardware.

Not really needed to be similar. What may be needed is the same brand CPU, the same brand GPU, the same platform.

The last one is the most important. While you may get away with switching from an Intel to an AMD CPU, you cannot get away with switching from Windows to Linux. That'll be a new hostID every time.


I mean that the apps in the app_info.xml transfered from the "dead" computer
may be incompatible with the hardware in the "new" computer.

E.g. the "dead" was capable of SSSE3 for CPU and v6.09 (cuda23) for GPU
and the "new" is capable of SSE3 for CPU and v6.08 (cuda) for GPU

The same brand CPU & the same brand GPU is not sufficient
(e.g. both computers use Intel & NVIDIA but the "new" have older types than the "dead")

You will need additionally to change the apps for successful computation
before running BOINC

3185) Questions and Answers : Windows : Couldn't install BOINC (Message 1022490)
Posted 4 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

From your last post it is not clear (for me) is the problem solved?

If you still wonder is the setup file corrupted read this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60461&nowrap=true#1019684

3186) Questions and Answers : Windows : Screensaver Flashing (Message 1022100)
Posted 3 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


If Jack can tell which program he set to "Always stay on top" this can be the "mysterious one"

(E.g. FlashGet and BitComet have small (transparent) boxes (to drop links on them?) which try to "Stay on top")

He said:
"While the screensaver is flashing the taskbar remains in place so it does kind of look like a couple of things are trying to happen."

He can try to set the taskbar to "Auto hide" or uncheck "Always on top"

And how he starts the screensaver?
Is it somehow possible that 2 screensavers run at the same time (two Boincscr.exe processes)?
(e.g. double-click icon in "quick launch")

Also as the screensaver checks for keypress/mouse move (to exit)
is it possible that some keylogger or macro-recorder program interferes?

3187) Questions and Answers : Windows : Screensaver Flashing (Message 1022075)
Posted 2 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


If Jack Limes will allow you to "enter" his computer
(using e.g. TeamViewer http://www.teamviewer.com/)
you will know all the info I wonder about.

3188) Questions and Answers : Windows : Screensaver Flashing (Message 1022044)
Posted 2 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"I also did exit all of these things":
You mean you also exited the Webshots photo program?
Also close Windows Gadgets?
Also close all "normal" programs (e.g. DivX player)?

Then maybe the interfering program have no icon in systray ("hidden" process).

In Windows Task Manager in the tab of running processes do you see some "unusual" process?
(can you post the screen-shot of the Windows Task Manager window?)



I emptied the system tray of everything I was able to...closed all those programs including the antivirus program and then ran it. I didn't close Windows Gadgets or stop processes in the Task Manager....and I don't think I'm going to. It would be ridiculous to close all of those things to run the screensaver and I can't imagine it would be expected for it to run properly. I used all of these programs on my former computer all the time and the BOINC screensaver ran fine.

I don't mean to be difficult, I return to a previous question, "Is it really supposed to be this difficult?" I think a reasonable line should be drawn as to what all should be done to the system to get this to work normally. I'm willing to change settings and try some different things, but I don't want to have to strip the running programs down to nothing for the screensaver to work. Does that make sense?

I'm still working with Ageless as well in hopes of finding a solution.


"I didn't close Windows Gadgets ...":

I mean not closing individual Gadgets but entire right-hand Gadgets pane
(I do not use this Vista's right-hand Gadgets pane for over an year,
I think it was Right-click -> Hide and then to enable it again use the icon in systray (I'm now on another Win98 computer and can't check this))


"I don't want to have to strip the running programs down to nothing for the screensaver to work":

we are doing this only for test - when/if we find the conflicting program/Gadget
you will have to decide which one to run - the screensaver or the conflicting with it program (if any).

Do you have some GPU (video) related Gadget?
E.g. Temperature/Free Video RAM/Video MHz Monitoring
Or showing some 3D animation?

Do you use programs like EVGA Precision, RivaTuner, MSI Afterburner, ...?


P.S.
Many programs have in the documentation long lists of "known conflicts"
(e.g. uTorrent 1.8 was incompatible (can't connect to trackers) with NOD32 2.70.39 (the antivirus I use)
but uTorrent 1.7.7 and uTorrent 1.81+ work no problem)

Check NVIDIA site (.pdf files) - every version of the driver have long list of
known incompatibilities with many games (bugs in games and/or in driver)
(BOINC screensaver is using the same 3D API (.DLLs) as the games).

But of course this flashing is not normal (rare case)
and is caused by some bug in the software/hardware combination on your machine.

3189) Message boards : Number crunching : Is it allowed to copy MB WU's, from a 'death host', to a 'living one' , or are they specific for 'that'host or security issues? (Message 1022034)
Posted 2 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

How to find BOINC Program & Data directory:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60786&nowrap=true#1017134

3190) Message boards : Number crunching : Is it allowed to copy MB WU's, from a 'death host', to a 'living one' , or are they specific for 'that'host or security issues? (Message 1022006)
Posted 2 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I can imagine the 'cheat' reason, but I did copy them, still show up in my BOINC\projects\setiathomeberkeley dir, but NOT in BOINC manager maybe/probably an build-in-safety gard, for this fenomenun.
It's a pity though, but I do understand their safety measures.
Nothing as bad, when tempering with scientific information, IMO.
B.t.w.running BOINC 6.10.56 on an Q6600, WIN XP x86 Pro.
Trying to 'safe the info' on the disks, on this host.


This can be done but you have to be "advanced user" (know the computer stuff well)

You can't copy just the WUs to the other computer (they will just sit there consuming hard disk space and nothing more) -
you need the whole BOINC Data directory.

And don't mix (do not copy files from one into another) the two BOINC Data directories!

The hardware on the two computers (GPU, CPU) must be similar enough.


The procedure will be
(USE AT YOUR OWN RISK - I make mistakes like everybody - "to err is human"):

Rename the "dead" BOINC Data directory from BOINC to BOINC_Dead
Archive it (WinRAR, 7-Zip) (Right-click BOINC_Dead and use WinRAR -> Add to "BOINC_Dead.rar")
Copy the .rar file to the new computer


On the working computer:

First make sure you know where the two current (used now) BOINC directories are
(Program and Data) - you will need this to return to the "normal" way BOINC works on this computer
(e.g. make 2 shortcuts to both directories on the Desktop)

Pause (suspend) the processing and exit completely BOINC

Make new directory C:\BOINC_Verster and go into it
Move BOINC_Dead.rar into it
Right-click BOINC_Dead.rar and use WinRAR -> Extract Here

Now you have
C:\BOINC_Verster\BOINC_Dead
(inside BOINC_Dead folder you have to see folders projects, slots; and (30-40) files e.g. client_state.xml, account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml)

This will be the BOINC Data directory which will be used (for a few days) in the next steps

Install BOINC (yes - you have it but you have to re-Install it)
Choose Advanced and select:

for BOINC Program directory
C:\BOINC_Verster\BOINC_P

for BOINC Data directory
C:\BOINC_Verster\BOINC_Dead

(continue to finish the install)

(you can Stop Internet (remove the cable) now if you want to be cautious if the tasks are aborted and you want to try another tweaks)

Start BOINC Manager (from the new icon which have to point to C:\BOINC_Verster\BOINC_P\boincmgr.exe)
Select "No New tasks"
Look if the tasks are running or aborted (e.g. if the apps in app_info.xml are incompatible with the "new" hardware)
(If they are aborted - maybe give up, too much more work and guessing what to do -
e.g. use another optimized apps suitable for this computer - the apps "travel" with the project folder you transfered from the dead computer)

If they are running - connect Internet ( OK - connect Internet even if they are aborted and you give up ;) )
Finish the WUs, upload, report, detach
Exit BOINC completely

(you can now delete C:\BOINC_Verster\ so you do not by mistake run BOINC from it again)


To RETURN to the previous "normal" BOINC on this computer:

Install BOINC
Choose Advanced and select:
for BOINC Program directory
for BOINC Data directory
- the directories of the previous "normal" installation
which you remembered early in the 2 shortcuts to both directories ("First make sure you know where .....")

(continue to finish the install)

Start the "new" BOINC Manager from the Start Menu (make sure the shortcut points to the correct BOINC Program directory)

You have to see now the tasks you paused a few days ago (the "normal" tasks for this computer)
Enable (Activity menu) the processing

______
P.S.
This post may be too late - I started writing it a few hours ago,
then had to do some "non-computer" (household) things,
and finished the last part now.

3191) Message boards : Number crunching : Why do "Timed out - no response" Cause setback? (Message 1021942)
Posted 2 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
DCF is now 3.674, hopefully it will settle back down because resetting it seems to cause some -177's...


DCF can go up if you for hours did something "heavy" on the computer
e.g. play games (3D, Flash, Shockwave), render images (3DS Max, Revit, ...) ...

To BOINC it appears as if your computer become slower.
For CPU Tasks it can be noticed if Run time (Elapsed time) is significantly bigger than CPU time.

3192) Message boards : Number crunching : New rescheduler (Message 1021874)
Posted 2 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

As you are near to this I suggest you skip Version 1.9
of BoincRescheduler (go from 1.8 to 2.0)
to avoid confusion with (old) ReSchedule 1.9

(in the forum people will say "I use reschedule (or rescheduler) 1.9"
which may be referring to the "other" program)

3193) Questions and Answers : Web site : Add Team Banner to Photos Page (Message 1021872)
Posted 2 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Here is the page with the team logos. I have my team banner on my team page but I want to add it to this page too.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/team_logo.php



I don't think this page can be edited by users -
the logos shown (only 4) are added by the website developers.

3194) Questions and Answers : Windows : Using hard drive. (Message 1021871)
Posted 2 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


If your external Lacie hard drive is at e.g. E:
during install of BOINC choose Advanced and select (manually type)
to create the two directories (Program and Data) as:

E:\BOINC
E:\BOINC-Data

3195) Questions and Answers : Windows : Screensaver Flashing (Message 1021864)
Posted 2 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"I also did exit all of these things":
You mean you also exited the Webshots photo program?
Also close Windows Gadgets?
Also close all "normal" programs (e.g. DivX player)?

Then maybe the interfering program have no icon in systray ("hidden" process).

In Windows Task Manager in the tab of running processes do you see some "unusual" process?
(can you post the screen-shot of the Windows Task Manager window?)

3196) Message boards : Number crunching : Invisible WUs (Message 1021688)
Posted 1 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If you know for sure which ones are truly abandoned then you could remove them
but be sure the ones you remove are truly abandoned and not new work in the same folder.

[edit] - Would be nice if Boinc could print out a list of current wu it has on hand!


He (Lionel) can easy distinguish them -
sort the folder by date/time - which WU files have date/time before the "incident" (with some margin e.g. 12-24 h) - they are the abandoned.

He can delete now the oldest (age > 2 days) and do the same after a week or two when
the date/time gap between old/new will help to see the old WUs easy.

3197) Message boards : Number crunching : Invisible WUs (Message 1021677)
Posted 1 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


How many BOINC Data directories do you find on the disk?
(search for e.g. slots , client_state.xml , account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml)

The BOINC Data directory that is used now is shown in the first few lines
in the Messages tab of BOINC Manager.

(You may be looking in one place and BOINC in another)


Or client_state.xml (where the WUs are described) may become corrupted, deleted, zero-size ...?
And BOINC created new "empty" client_state.xml ?

3198) Questions and Answers : Windows : Seti Classic executable is malware? (Message 1021558)
Posted 1 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You can upload the file and check it with ~40 AV programs at:

http://www.virustotal.com/

http://virscan.org/


Better report false-positives to the AV vendor (Ad-Aware site in this case)
http://www.lavasoft.com/

3199) Questions and Answers : Windows : Screensaver Flashing (Message 1021553)
Posted 1 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


I can say that one of the screen savers (Marine Aquarium 2) on my Vista 32 computer
"blinks" randomly in 1-5 sec intervals when Winamp window is active (playing)
(with classic equalizer "dancing" up and down bars displayed).

I think that some program (e.g. GPU sensor monitor) is trying to access the video card
or write to the screen (video RAM) in the same time with the screen saver.

So far Jack Limes said about resident programs:
"I have Windows Live Mail, an Ad blocking program called AdMuncher, McAfee Security Center and Webshots"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60829&nowrap=true#1019811

I wonder what is "Webshots"?

For testing purposes it will be good to exit all of these programs (almost empty systray)
(even disable the antivirus for a few minutes)
and start BOINC screen saver to see is there any difference.

3200) Message boards : Number crunching : Einsteins really mess up my computer. (Message 1021545)
Posted 1 Aug 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

And what was the problem?
What means "Einsteins really mess up my computer"?
Why "Detaching from Einstein has really helped"?

If you describe this you will help others to avoid the same problem.

3201) Message boards : Number crunching : New rescheduler (Message 1021281)
Posted 31 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

No need to put BOINC Rescheduler (BOINC Rescheduler.exe & config.xml) in BOINC Data folder.
It works from any folder.

3202) Message boards : Number crunching : New rescheduler (Message 1021268)
Posted 31 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


1) What settings do you use in these two tabs (and in the config.xml)?:
(preferably post the pictures - http://ploader.net/)









2) What do you see when you exit BOINC (boincmgr.exe & boinc.exe must disappear)?






3) Maybe this fix in V 1.6 have something to do with what happened to your tasks?:
"Fixed: A paused tasks, sometimes wasn't marked as active and was included in the reschedule."
(but more probably boinc.exe was started before the processing of client_state.xml was finished)



The Beatles - Fixing a hole
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10vU7Qo-NlU&NR=1

3203) Message boards : Number crunching : New rescheduler (Message 1021242)
Posted 31 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


It's getting better all the time :)

Getting Better - The Beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk0dBZ1meio

Getting Better - Lyrics
http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/getting-better-lyrics-the-beatles/901783c7aebff9ab48256bc20013fa73

3204) Message boards : Number crunching : New rescheduler (Message 1020348)
Posted 28 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


When you have more time (What! FREE Time! Never heard of this! ;) )
maybe you will implement saving of this data in the Exit section of BoincRescheduler
(when user chooses Exit or reboots)
and then reading it when BoincRescheduler starts again.

3205) Message boards : Number crunching : New rescheduler (Message 1020318)
Posted 28 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You do not use the optimization which old ReSchedule 1.9 uses -
- it remembers the already scanned WUs + <true_angle_range>X.XXX</true_angle_range>
in ReSchedule.ini file, e.g.:

[WorkUnits]
31dc09ad.905.14137.12.10.30=0.44307215524269
31dc09ac.9032.7601.13.10.149=0.44775229356634
31dc09ai.13488.25016.14.10.57=0.44813288821883
........

so the next start of ReSchedule.exe it scans only the files not in the saved list (new downloads)
and updates the list -
removes names which are not in the current client_state.xml (= keeps only the existing)
and scans and adds the new WUs' names.


You remember this but only in memory -
- when I press [Test] and "Reading WUs" message appears
in reality BoincRescheduler copies every WU to the Temp (capture) folder
(which is big overhead on computers with 1000s of WUs in cache)
then reads the contents of the copy to search for <true_angle_range>.


BoincRescheduler obviously remembers the result in memory
because if I press [Test] again it goes in split second.

But if I exit BoincRescheduler and start it again
pressing the [Test] button takes again long time (copy every WU and scan it)

Can you remember the scan results in a file or in registry (retain it between restarts of BoincRescheduler)?

3206) Message boards : Number crunching : New rescheduler (Message 1020302)
Posted 28 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Can you implement manual selection of the target app?

e.g. if you find 2-3 versions of CUDA apps in app_info.xml
let the user choose the one he want to rebrand to.


Target GPU application (radio-buttons):
( ) 6.08 CUDA
(*) 6.09 CUDA23
( ) 6.10 CUDA Fermi

What happens if the computer have 3 GPUs?:
GPU 1 - can run only 6.08 CUDA
GPU 2 - can run 6.08 CUDA and 6.09 CUDA23
GPU 3 - can run only 6.10 CUDA Fermi

3207) Message boards : Number crunching : New rescheduler (Message 1020079)
Posted 27 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


So you find it no easy to make some switch so this tool will
just change the rsc_fpops_bound and DCF
and not try to reschedule WUs (change ver. and plan class)?

Of course I can do this in Notepad but it will be cleaner and easier using your tool :)

3208) Message boards : Number crunching : New rescheduler (Message 1020072)
Posted 27 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Fred,
Thank you for the effort to make this program (and all the other of yours BOINC "relatives" :) )!


Can you allow in Simulation mode that new client_state.xml file be created
(in Temp (capture) directory) even if error occurs?

The reason -
I have no CUDA capable GPU but want to try/use the feature to increase the
rsc_fpops_bound (and maybe DCF)

but get the Error:

27 July 2010 - 14:35:34 Out of range: rsc_fpops_bound < 500000000000000000.000000, total: 188
27 July 2010 - 14:35:34 Found: CPU: 187, VLAR: 18, VHAR: 2
27 July 2010 - 14:35:34 Found: GPU: 0, VLAR: 0, VHAR: 0
27 July 2010 - 14:35:34 Rescheduling needed

27 July 2010 - 14:35:37 WARNING: Simulation mode selected
27 July 2010 - 14:35:37 Out of range: rsc_fpops_bound < 500000000000000000.000000, total: 188
27 July 2010 - 14:35:37 Found: CPU: 187, VLAR: 18, VHAR: 2
27 July 2010 - 14:35:37 Found: GPU: 0, VLAR: 0, VHAR: 0
27 July 2010 - 14:35:37 No version for Cpu or Gpu


I will try this with BOINC completely exited
and compare (by Total Commander) the old (in the BOINC Data directory)
and the new (in Temp (capture) directory) client_state.xml files
to see what changes are made before manual copy.


app_info.xml:
<app_info> 
    <app>
        <name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>AK_v8b_win_SSE3_AMD.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>603</version_num>
        <file_ref>
           <file_name>AK_v8b_win_SSE3_AMD.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app>
        <name>astropulse_v505</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
        <version_num>505</version_num>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>    
</app_info> 

3209) Questions and Answers : Windows : CUDA with Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (Message 1020012)
Posted 27 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Or use another browser (IE, Firefox, Opera, Google Chrome, Apple Safari)
or another computer to download again the setup file.

3210) Message boards : Number crunching : New rescheduler (Message 1019708)
Posted 26 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

OK :)

Now I can easy look at the Log & Capture files
- click [...] button
- right-click the directory
- choose Open





3211) Questions and Answers : Windows : Temperature Monitoring Programs (Message 1019700)
Posted 26 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


HWMonitor
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html


3212) Message boards : Number crunching : Which temp. (Message 1019694)
Posted 26 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I use speedfan 4.40. The core temps of my cpu go as high as 65 degrees Celsius.
Recently I downloaded System Information Viewer ver 4.10.
http://rh-software.com/
It read my cpu's temp at 51 degrees Celsius, whilst speedfan read it as 64 degrees Celsius.
What is the correct temp.? I also noted that there is another CPU value in speedfan that read the CPU temp as 48 degrees Celsius.


SIV shows two CPU temps (outlined on the picture by me):

The one in Red box is internal CPU core temperature (measured by in-the-CPU-die diode)

The one in Cyan box is external CPU temperature (measured by diode located on the Mainboard under the CPU)





You may also try other Temperature Monitoring Programs:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292

3213) Questions and Answers : Windows : CUDA with Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (Message 1019684)
Posted 26 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


This means the setup file is corrupted (not fully downloaded)

Download again and check you have:

boinc_6.10.58_windows_intelx86.exe

Size: 6.88 MB (7,216,544 bytes)

md5 checksum:
d37f5bca393692d2a9370a107f22c5ae *boinc_6.10.58_windows_intelx86.exe

(You can use e.g. Total Commander to verify the md5 checksum)

3214) Questions and Answers : Windows : Screensaver Flashing (Message 1019681)
Posted 26 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do you have some Windows updates pending for install?
Install them and reboot.


What programs do you have running all the time?
E.g. see my SysTray:




Try all the screen savers you have (e.g. "3D Text") to see are they flashing.

3215) Message boards : Number crunching : New rescheduler (Message 1019677)
Posted 26 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Some minor changes needed in About (BOINC Monitor -> BOINC Rescheduler):





I will be more confident if in the Expert tab there is text similar to:
"
Leave the above boxes blank to use the default folders.

BOINC Data folder used now by BOINC Rescheduler is: C:\..........
TEMP folder used now by BOINC Rescheduler is: C:\...............
"

Or:
"
BOINC Rescheduler uses now the following folders:

BOINC Data: C:\..........
TEMP files: C:\..........
"


Maybe also add buttons to open these folders (for easy access)?





3216) Message boards : Number crunching : New rescheduler (Message 1019466)
Posted 25 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

What happens if these two options are conflicting?:

"If GPU tasks are less than" 40 "fill up to" 60 "Tasks": Moves tasks to the GPU when the current total is less than 40. Move enough tasks to end up with 60 tasks.
"If CPU tasks are less than" 20 "fill up to" 30 "Tasks": Moves tasks to the CPU when the current total is less than 20. Move enough tasks to end up with 30 tasks.

Will it loop e.g. if you have total of 62 tasks
GPU: 20 - CPU: 42 -> GPU fill to 60 =
GPU: 60 - CPU: 2 -> CPU fill to 30 =
GPU: 32 - CPU: 30 -> GPU fill to 60 =
GPU: 60 - CPU: 2 -> CPU fill to 30 =
..........

3217) Questions and Answers : Web site : HTML font color in team description? (Message 1018542)
Posted 23 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It's possible to use HTML font colors in the team description?

I used:
<FONT COLOR="#0000FF"> blabla </FONT>

..but it didn't worked.


Thanks! :-)


Maybe you have to use:
[color=blue]blabla[/color]

for:
blabla

3218) Questions and Answers : Windows : Suspending computation-CPU usage is too high (Message 1018382)
Posted 22 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Discussion about:
Suspending computation - CPU usage is too high

you can see here:
NEW Pref.: Suspend work if CPU usage is > XX %
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58787

3219) Questions and Answers : Windows : Screensaver Flashing (Message 1018381)
Posted 22 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
7/21/2010 6:10:15 PM Running as a daemon
7/21/2010 6:10:15 PM Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
7/21/2010 6:10:15 PM Running under account boinc_master
7/21/2010 6:10:21 PM Processor: 6 AuthenticAMD AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1035T Processor [Family 16 Model 10 Stepping 0]
7/21/2010 6:10:21 PM Processor: 512.00 KB cache
7/21/2010 6:10:21 PM Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 htt pni cx16 syscall nx lm svm sse4a osvw ibs skinit wdt page1gb rdtscp 3dnowext 3dnow
7/21/2010 6:10:21 PM OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Home Premium x64 Edition, (06.01.7600.00)
7/21/2010 6:10:21 PM Memory: 6.00 GB physical, 12.00 GB virtual
7/21/2010 6:10:21 PM Disk: 920.88 GB total, 869.14 GB free
7/21/2010 6:10:21 PM Local time is UTC -5 hours
7/21/2010 6:10:32 PM No usable GPUs found


If you want to use your GPU (video card) for computation you have to re-install BOINC
and uncheck "Protected application execution"
(Protected = Service = Daemon)

Using "Protected application execution" disables GPU use for computation on Vista & Win7

Maybe this will also solve the Screensaver flashing problem.

3220) Questions and Answers : Web site : Task list fails to show info (Message 1018380)
Posted 22 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


If BOINC Manager (= boincmgr.exe) tells you
that it is trying to connect to client (= boinc.exe) but can't
this have nothing to do with SETI servers - it is local problem (in your computer)

It is most likely caused by Firewall blocking the communication
between the two programs (boincmgr.exe & boinc.exe).

What Firewall do you use?
When this problem started?
What (security, Antivirus) programs did you install (recently)?

3221) Message boards : Number crunching : NIVIDA 258.96 Release Available (Message 1017955)
Posted 20 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Nivida has released its latest version 258.96 today. Adds support for the GTX460.


And what is NIVIDA?

Is it NEVADA or is it NVIDIA ? ;)

3222) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Credits (Message 1017512)
Posted 19 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

About:
Suspending computation - CPU usage is too high

you can read:
NEW Pref.: Suspend work if CPU usage is > XX %
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58787

3223) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Problem with BOINC 6.10.56 and CUDA (Message 1017139)
Posted 18 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Restart BOINC?
Reboot computer?
3224) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Need classes to use BOINC (Message 1017136)
Posted 18 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


If you want to use cc_config.xml you really need some more "advanced" computer knowledge.
(If using Notepad to edit it and finding BOINC Data directory is "advanced")

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration
http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Cc_config.xml
http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?language=1&view=91


e.g. I use
<cc_config>

   <log_flags>
      <benchmark_debug>1</benchmark_debug>
      <work_fetch_debug>0</work_fetch_debug>
   </log_flags>

   <options>
      <save_stats_days>365</save_stats_days>
      <start_delay>13</start_delay>
   </options>

</cc_config>

3225) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Need classes to use BOINC (Message 1017134)
Posted 18 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


How to find BOINC Program directory:





How to find BOINC Data directory:




(the paths listed above on the screen-shots are valid only on my Win98 computer
- yours are different, find them the way I show above
or using RegEdit:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley\BOINC Setup]
"INSTALLDIR"="D:\\Programs.98\\Science\\BOINC\\"
"DATADIR"="D:\\Programs.98\\Science\\BOINC-Data\\"

)

3226) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Credits (Message 1017120)
Posted 18 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


You have Credit: 100,155

If you talk about RAC: 0 obviously you didn't computed anything for SETI in the last months (using this "Coco" account)

Recent Average Credit (RAC)
http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Recent_Average_Credit


Everybody have Account key and Weak account key
(NEVER post the actual keys anywhere - consider them "passwords")


"My messages always say using the wrong URL":
Copy & Paste a few (5-10 lines?) of messages here
(click - Shift-click - use the button on the left "Copy selected messages")

"I've left my pc go for 24 hours a day. I also due work on the pc":
You always can use Windows Task Manager to check which programs (processes) are running
and which take most of the CPU time.

"Yes, also on a team":
team doesn't matter
http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Team

You can find many answers it the BOINC Glossary
http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Category:BOINC_Glossary

3227) Questions and Answers : Web site : Time Zones Wrong (Message 1016694)
Posted 17 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


If you just want to know what is the Time in Berkeley check this thread:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59274

3228) Message boards : Number crunching : Just for fun: Classic SETI in Action! (Message 1015740)
Posted 15 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you want to play some more with Classic SETI
I collected 43 Classic SETI@home WorkUnits for you to try.

(two links - the same file (11.44 MB))

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-25e91f4b.html

http://mail.dir.bg/~bil/SETI@home__Classic__work_unit.sah.rar


( The original link where I found these 43 Classic SETI@home work_unit.sah files:
http://www.oldurn.com/seti@home/
)

3229) Message boards : Number crunching : Not requesting new tasks (Message 1015025)
Posted 12 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm having an issue with SAH at the moment -- BOINC won't request new tasks.


It could be like me, that in your computers 'show details' you have 'No of tasks today=0". That is why your computer is not requesting work.


It is the opposite -
your computer is not requesting work
hence "No of tasks today=0"

3230) Questions and Answers : Windows : ReSchedule 1.9 (my weird direct link) (Message 1014934)
Posted 12 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

About BoincRescheduler (Fred - www.efmer.eu) read also:

New rescheduler
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60712

3231) Questions and Answers : Windows : Temperature Monitoring Programs (Message 1014860)
Posted 12 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

PassMark BurnInTest
http://www.passmark.com/products/temperature.htm

Hmonitor (Hardware sensors monitor)
http://www.hmonitor.com/

How to Monitor CPU Temperature
http://www.tech-faq.com/how-to-monitor-cpu-temperature.html

3232) Questions and Answers : Windows : ReSchedule 1.9 (my weird direct link) (Message 1014845)
Posted 12 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

ReSchedule 1.9 leaves behind many backup copies of client_state.xml in your BOINC Data directory
named client_state20??????.xml

You can delete them manually or use the Program or .Bat file discussed here:

Reschedule Client State Deletion (Program):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60623

"Why, Why, Why, do you need to install a program which needs .NET
for such a simple task as deleting files??!"
(= My .Bat files):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60623&nowrap=true#1012305

3233) Message boards : Number crunching : Reschedule Client State Deletion (Message 1014839)
Posted 11 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
New release is out.

Only small bug fix in this version.

Updates:

Fixed a bug where client state files older than 2010 weren't being deleted. The application will now delete any client state files dating back until the year 2000 and up until the year 2999.

Download link is in the first post.

I'll be adding some changes to it soon hopefully.

I have plans to add a feature that tells you how many files it detected and how much space you save when the files are deleted etc.

Any other feature requests will also be taken into consideration.



!!! "until the year 2999" - are you planning that you and your program will last more than Yoda ?! ;)





Instead deleting client_state201*.xml
you now delete client_state2*.xml

I think it is better to use
client_state20*.xml
as some future BOINC version can be designed to use filenames e.g.
client_state1.xml
client_state2.xml
client_state3.xml
client_state4.xml
.....

3234) Questions and Answers : Windows : ReSchedule 1.9 (my weird direct link) (Message 1014536)
Posted 11 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

New similar tool:
BoincRescheduler
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60427&nowrap=true#1013777
http://www.efmer.eu/forum_tt/index.php?topic=428.0

3235) Questions and Answers : Windows : ReSchedule 1.9 (my weird direct link) (Message 1014534)
Posted 11 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you use ReSchedule 1.9 with
NVIDIA Fermi (GTX 465, 470 or 480) graphics card

and want to move WUs CPU -> GPU read this how-to:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60079&nowrap=true#1006116

3236) Questions and Answers : Windows : Recently Install Windows XP (Message 1013822)
Posted 9 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I can't drive my car, what's the problem with it.

If you can answer this question I will answer yours ;)

3237) Questions and Answers : Windows : Allow network usage (Message 1013810)
Posted 9 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


This is how I set it a week ago:








Notes:

1) The times are in local time (Tuesday 18:00 Bulgaria time means Tuesday 08:00 Berkeley time)
2) I allow 13 minutes a day for BOINC to try communication in case they decide to change the 3-day policy
3) 20-day cache on this computer is about 4-5 WUs

3238) Message boards : Number crunching : Something is broken. Getting CPU tasks when I shouldn't. (Message 1012686)
Posted 6 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I was looking to see why I wasn't crunching 4 SIMAP wu's. I found SETI had downloaded a wu and it was running. I checked the system, yes, SETI is there using 25% of my CPU's, (quad core system). I checked my preferences just now and can clearly see on my 6.10.56 system...

Use CPU Enforced by version 6.10+ no


...hence, I surmise, something is broken.


"my 6.10.56 system" - both of your computers are running 6.10.56 but you are obviously referring to your ATI system
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=3450941

since only there I see CPU WU
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=3450941

The only way (for now) to do SETI on this system is by using CPU (no ATI app for SETI except the opt hybrid (CPU+GPU) Astropulse app)

3239) Message boards : Number crunching : Reschedule Client State Deletion (Message 1012678)
Posted 6 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Thanks for the program.. Very nice!


You're welcome!


Your program can be somehow better than .bat file if you get the BOINC data directory from the registry.

In the dialog when you ask the user to enter the path to BOINC data directory
make a button to "Get the directory from the registry"

It is in the
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley\BOINC Setup]
"DATADIR"="................."


You can also give info (before user presses the Delete button) how many files will be deleted and how much HDD space they use.

It will be good if you post some screenshots from the program.

(I use .png and http://ploader.net/)

3240) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems with state files (Message 1012331)
Posted 5 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
NO - it will not require a re-install of the client (BOINC)

It will! 5.10.45 doesn't support GPUs ;-)

Gruß,
Gundolf


(I think) He thinks that if he install now the latest BOINC he will need to re-install the same latest BOINC once again after adding the GPU
3241) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems with state files (Message 1012328)
Posted 5 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Rather than doing a reinstall now, I will postpone it since I am in the process of changing my video card to a GPU card (an ASUS EN9600GT) which will require a re-install of the client. No sense doing a reinstall of the very old version of the client I have running and then a reinstall of the newer version.

Thanks to all who answered.


NO - it will not require a re-install of the client (BOINC)

Download + Install of BOINC is about 5-10 minutes work (if all goes well)
3242) Message boards : Number crunching : Reschedule Client State Deletion (Message 1012305)
Posted 5 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If it's in add/remove programs then uninstall it. Otherwise just re-run the new one. :)

Did not find it in add/remove...
Will download the new one and try again.


Why, Why, Why, do you need to install a program which needs .NET
for such a simple task as deleting files??!


1) Get this .Rar file
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-67334e39.html

2) Extract it to your BOINC data directory
It contains 2 files:
Check Old ReSched.bat
Delete Old ReSched.bat
(i.e. you have to put these 2 .Bat files in the same folder where the client_state.xml file is)

3) Make shortcuts to them on the Desktop (Send To -> Desktop)

4) Run them whenever you like



Shortcuts on the Desktop and example of what you will see when you run them:






The contents of the files are (open them with Notepad to see for yourself):


Check Old ReSched.bat

: *** For use with BOINC + SETI + ReSchedule ***

: Run this file to Check how many client_state backups created by the ReSchedule tool you have now

: - How to use:
: Put this .bat file in BOINC data directory
: Make shortcut to this file (Send To -> Desktop) for easy manual starting
: Run it whenever you like
: (if you see "File Not Found" you do not have client_state backups files)

dir /s client_state201*.xml

Pause



Delete Old ReSched.bat

: *** For use with BOINC + SETI + ReSchedule ***

: Run this file to Delete client_state backups created by the ReSchedule tool

: - How to use:
: Put this .bat file in BOINC data directory
: Make shortcut to this file (Send To -> Desktop) for easy manual starting
: Run it whenever you like
: (if you see "Could Not Find ....." you do not have client_state backups files)

del /q /s client_state201*.xml

Pause



(All lines beginning with : are just my comments)


3243) Message boards : Number crunching : Cleaning up after using rescheduler... (Message 1012103)
Posted 5 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Just made a test on my drive C:\ with 78.686 files in 8.214 folders. Took 31 seconds.


I tested on my drive
~97 500 files, ~16 800 folders (=28 GB)
(the one-line .bat is in the root directory)
(30 GB NTFS partition on 320 GB Seagate SATA)

Using Vista 32bit, RAM 1 GB (-128 for video = 896 MB usable)
(don't tell me to buy more RAM - I don't have the money :-( )

Took
1:37 (1 minute 37 seconds)


The same .bat file if put in BOINC data directory -
- takes less than a second (maybe < 0.1 s)

3244) Message boards : Number crunching : Could my computer be doing better? (Message 1012065)
Posted 5 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

No need to post this numbers - we can see the list:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5437618&offset=0&show_names=1&state=0

The task you look at:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1646259994

is not representative - it is noisy and ended fast with the notice:

SETI@Home Informational message -9 result_overflow
NOTE: The number of results detected exceeds the storage space allocated.

Flopcounter: 14179094997.696062

Spike count: 30
Pulse count: 0
Triplet count: 0
Gaussian count: 0
called boinc_finish

(this is not an error - just too many "signals" found (usually human made - radars near Arecibo))


"Normal" task is this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1639098172

Stderr output
<core_client_version>6.10.56</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
setiathome_enhanced 6.02 DevC++/MinGW
libboinc: 6.3.6

Work Unit Info:
...............
WU true angle range is :  0.319286
Optimal function choices:
-----------------------------------------------------
name                
-----------------------------------------------------
              v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)
  v_vGetPowerSpectrumUnrolled2 0.00485 0.00000 
             sse1_ChirpData_ak 0.18874 0.00000 
            v_vTranspose4x8ntw 0.14680 0.00000 
                AK SSE folding 0.00323 0.00000 
Restarted at 0.22 percent.
Restarted at 0.22 percent.
Restarted at 1.03 percent.
Restarted at 1.03 percent.
Restarted at 1.29 percent.
..........
Restarted at 98.20 percent.
Restarted at 99.63 percent.
Restarted at 99.63 percent.

Flopcounter: 51913524657910.648000

Spike count:    2
Pulse count:    4
Triplet count:  0
Gaussian count: 3
called boinc_finish

</stderr_txt>
]]>


We see too many restarts (which slow down especially using the standard app)

Go to Computing preferences
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global

and set them this way:




After clicking Edit preferences the same looks like:




If you use local preferences set them in BOINC Manager





For some info about Optimized apps look:
Lunatics' Unified Installer (Optimized SETI)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54288&nowrap=true#994550

(Optimized apps compute 1.5 - 2.5 (150%-250%) times faster - depends on the CPU)


P.S.
Is your second computer actively running BOINC/SETI?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5437591

3245) Message boards : Number crunching : Cleaning up after using rescheduler... (Message 1012055)
Posted 5 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So, no Friend of DOS Times?

Well, a super easy Way?

1. Create a Textfile on the Desktop using Notepad.
2. Put this Line in it: "del /q /s client_state2010*.xml" (without the Quotes)
3. Save it as - maybe - Kill_Rescheduler_CS.bat (or any Name you prefere).
4. Copy this File to the Partition/Drive where your BOINC User Installation is (Like C:). No need to Copy it in a specify Folder.
5. Go to the Windows Task Scheduler and create a Task which maybe starts once a Day and executes your created .bat File. Do this on every Rig.

That's all.

Helli



3. You can also save it as .txt and then rename it to .bat

4. The advice given by Helli is to put the .bat file in C:\ if your BOINC data directory is somewhere on the C: drive.

It will work faster if you put the .bat file in BOINC data directory (look in first few lines in Messages tab of BOINC Manager and find e.g.:
29.06.2010 16:19:20 Starting BOINC client version 6.10.56 for windows_intelx86
29.06.2010 16:19:20 log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task, benchmark_debug
29.06.2010 16:19:20 Libraries: libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.3
29.06.2010 16:19:20 Data directory: H:\BOINC-Data
)

6. Also you can make shortcut to the .bat file (Send To -> Desktop (create shortcut)) for easy manual starting

3246) Message boards : Number crunching : SETIzens open your cricket graphs! (Message 1010686)
Posted 2 Jul 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You can use
eFMer BoincTasks
http://www.efmer.eu/boinc/boinc_tasks/

to know exactly how many tasks in different states you have

3247) Message boards : Number crunching : My ION GPU doesn't like the optimised app (Message 1009940)
Posted 30 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I think this is the same problem Sten-Arne had with his mighty Atom but I can't find the thread containing the solution.

The GPU WUs mostly error and crash the nVidia driver.

I'm running Vista Home Premium with driver version 19038 and have given it 512Mb in the BIOS.

I haven't modified app_info.xml - it's using MB_6.08_CUDA_V12_nokill_FPLim2048.exe

Am I correct in assuming that the solution is to revert to the stock GPU app and if so, how do I modify my app_info?

Thanks in anticipation,

Nick


"have given it 512Mb in the BIOS":
It doesn't matter how much RAM you give it in the BIOS -
only the "real" video RAM is used - not any of the main (computer) RAM you add.

You have 256 MB video RAM so I think it is all that can be used for CUDA:

"Total GPU memory 268435456 free GPU memory 230223872"


Ask Sten-Arne how to use your ION GPU

My ION GPU just loves VHAR's
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60521

Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz +NVIDIA ION (512MB)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58698

3248) Message boards : Number crunching : Queue length for workunits question. (Message 1009516)
Posted 28 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Post here the first ~30 lines from the Messages tab

3249) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Switching back to graphical screensaver (Message 1008070)
Posted 25 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You can't

You are using Optimized apps (Anonymous platform) which have no graphics:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=2581868&offset=0&show_names=0&state=3

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1640185536

Windows optimized S@H Enhanced application by Alex Kan
Version info: SSE2x (AMD/Intel, Core 2-optimized v8-nographics) V5.13 by Alex Kan
SSE2x Win32 Build 44 , Ported by : Jason G, Raistmer, JDWhale

3250) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Cuda stopped working (Message 1008065)
Posted 25 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Normally this info:

"SETI@Home Informational message -9 result_overflow"
"Pulse count: 31"

is not considered as error -
it says that too many "signals" are found -
"signals" which are caused by our (human) radio emissions
(radars near Arecibo)


But Fermi GPU's are known to produce -9 overflows on good data.

Read:
Possible problem with cuda WU's i'm having.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60249&nowrap=true



3251) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Cuda stopped working (Message 1007655)
Posted 24 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Since the results are not reported yet
search the client_state.xml file for the string <stderr_txt> and find for yourself.

(copy client_state.xml to another directory and "play" with the copy)

3252) Message boards : Number crunching : How you let run SETI@home NOW? (Message 1007646)
Posted 24 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Are you guys running Optimized APPS?


Optimized APPS ~= app_info.xml = Anonymous platform
I checked your computers - you are using Anonymous platform.

You can check anybody's computers (if not hidden) and see for yourself.

And you can see the apps used looking at some valid results.
Some of yours:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1640601896

Stderr output
<core_client_version>6.10.56</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
setiathome_CUDA: Found 1 CUDA device(s):
   Device 1 : GeForce GTS 250 
           totalGlobalMem = 523829248 
           sharedMemPerBlock = 16384 
           regsPerBlock = 8192 
           warpSize = 32 
           memPitch = 2147483647 
           maxThreadsPerBlock = 512 
           clockRate = 1836000 
           totalConstMem = 65536 
           major = 1 
           minor = 1 
           textureAlignment = 256 
           deviceOverlap = 1 
           multiProcessorCount = 16 
setiathome_CUDA: CUDA Device 1 specified, checking...
   Device 1: GeForce GTS 250 is okay
SETI@home using CUDA accelerated device GeForce GTS 250
V12 modification by Raistmer 
Priority of worker thread rised successfully
Priority of process adjusted successfully
Total GPU memory 523829248	 free GPU memory 445739008
setiathome_enhanced 6.02 Visual Studio/Microsoft C++

Build features: Non-graphics	CUDA 	FFTW	USE_SSE	x86	
     CPUID: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+ 

     Cache: L1=64K L2=512K


http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1640635820

Stderr output
<core_client_version>6.10.56</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
Windows optimized S@H Enhanced application by Alex Kan
Version info: SSE3x (AMD/Intel, Core 2-optimized v8-nographics) V5.13 by Alex Kan
SSE3x Win32 Build 76 , Ported by : Jason G, Raistmer, JDWhale

     CPUID: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+ 
     Speed: 1 x 2611 MHz 
     Cache: L1=64K L2=512K
  Features: MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 


3253) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation errors (Message 1007642)
Posted 24 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Yes until the servers are up it will be a problem, the only one I have a problem on is Overlord or ID 879910 there are a few erroneous non Cuda tasks already showing but I have at least another 11 waiting to upload, some have taken over 2 hours to fail others have been instant fails, wondering if something has changed never had a problem with the AK optimised apps before!!


"Overlord" - only you can see this
"ID 879910" - all of us can see the IDs

"there are a few erroneous non Cuda tasks already showing":
why not give us direct links to them?


Ideas?:

Do other programs crash on this computer?
Hardware changes?
Software changes?
Temperature?
Dust?
Fan?
Overclock?
Run CPU/RAM tests/burn-in programs?

Your cat/dog plays with cables inside the computer? :)

3254) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation errors (Message 1007630)
Posted 24 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I can't drive my car. Do you know why? Any ideas? ;)

--- You don't give us enough info to think about the problem ---

3255) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Waiting for memory (Message 1007210)
Posted 22 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


You need to raise the two values % for "Memory usage":





3256) Message boards : Number crunching : 2 gtx 295? super slow crunching (Message 1006144)
Posted 19 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I still wonder[/b] how ReSchedule can work with v6.09 WUs - I was thinking it can work only with v6.08 <--> v6.03)

ReSchedule works fine with 6.09 if your only using it to move VLAR's to the CPU.

Where it borks up is if you try to move units back from the CPU -> GPU. It rebrands the units as V6.08 and then BOINC despatches them into limbo because there is no 6.08 app installed.

Evidently Mad_Mac and Richard H have worked out how to fully use ReSched with 6.09/6.10, Check the sticky Fermi thread at the top of the Number Crunching list

Brodo


But Tim does this 6.03 -> 6.08 and it somehow works.
He also does 6.09 -> 6.03

Tim does not use Anonymous platform - uses standard apps - all 3 of them - 6.03, 6.08, 6.09 !

Valid tasks for computer 5344008
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5344008&offset=20&show_names=1&state=3

3257) Message boards : Number crunching : Suggestion Re Daily Quota Message (Message 1005855)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You have total of ~800 tasks (as shown here for Computer 3744107)

800 - 300 ghosts = 500 real tasks (they all completed)

Quota exists for a long time (years) (= 100 WUs/day for every CPU core)
but now you can "feel" it because of the big number of ghosts

3258) Message boards : Number crunching : -177 (0xffffffffffffff4f) Faults (Message 1005842)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I'm now on my K6-2+ / 524 MHz computer
It has 4 tasks, uses opt app

Last download:
17-Jun-2010 14:44:02 [SETI@home] Finished download of 18mr10aa.31979.20517.15.10.129

I see that rsc_fpops_bound is exactly 10 times the rsc_fpops_est:
      <rsc_fpops_est>159697111958278.000000</rsc_fpops_est>
    <rsc_fpops_bound>1596971119582780.000000</rsc_fpops_bound>

      <rsc_fpops_est>160566093629472.000000</rsc_fpops_est>
    <rsc_fpops_bound>1605660936294720.000000</rsc_fpops_bound>

      <rsc_fpops_est>163980079177073.000000</rsc_fpops_est>
    <rsc_fpops_bound>1639800791770730.000000</rsc_fpops_bound>

      <rsc_fpops_est>161006148967213.000000</rsc_fpops_est>
    <rsc_fpops_bound>1610061489672130.000000</rsc_fpops_bound>


<app_info>

    <app>
        <name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
    </app>

    <file_info>
        <name>KWSN_2.4V_MMX_MB.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>

    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>528</version_num>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>KWSN_2.4V_MMX_MB.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>

</app_info>

3259) Message boards : Number crunching : Suggestion Re Daily Quota Message (Message 1005829)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
And that's al I have, If the server says I have some cpu work, Then It's a fat lie.


Yes - it says you have 300 In progress tasks:

Begin (New tasks - you see Anonymous platform - CPU):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=3744107&offset=0&show_names=1&state=1

End (Old tasks - you see Anonymous platform):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=3744107&offset=280&show_names=1&state=1

3260) Message boards : Number crunching : Suggestion Re Daily Quota Message (Message 1005823)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"Since I have only one app, One of these is lying and I think It's the bottom one.":
NO, both are true

The top (anonymous platform, Unknown) are the tasks you downloaded before the credit system change (more than 3 days ago) (all of us "optimized" folks have this type) (this type (maybe) will no longer be used)

The bottom (anonymous platform, CPU) are the tasks you downloaded after the credit system change.


This is my info (you can see anybody's info)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=4832843

SETI@home Enhanced (anonymous platform, Unknown)
	Number of tasks completed	22
	Max tasks per day		42
	Number of tasks today		0
	Consecutive valid tasks		22
	Average turnaround time		21.45 days

SETI@home Enhanced (anonymous platform, CPU)
	Number of tasks completed	9
	Max tasks per day		109
	Number of tasks today		2
	Consecutive valid tasks		9
	Average turnaround time		0.76 days



3261) Message boards : Number crunching : Suggestion Re Daily Quota Message (Message 1005820)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

This is the info they talk about (for your computer # 3744107)
Application info for host 3744107
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=3744107

3262) Message boards : Number crunching : 2 gtx 295? super slow crunching (Message 1005810)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So any idea why those 2 hours?

My 9800 (with reschedule) finish the wus under 1 hour.


Do you see slowdown only on NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 [4 GPUs]
and not on NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT or NVIDIA GeForce GT 240 (all with driver: 25721)?

( In fact the [4 GPUs] are mixed:
setiathome_CUDA: Found 4 CUDA device(s):

   Device 1 : GeForce GTX 285 
           totalGlobalMem = 1058734080 
           multiProcessorCount = 30 

   Device 2 : GeForce GTX 285 
           totalGlobalMem = 1058734080 
           multiProcessorCount = 30 

   Device 3 : GeForce GTX 285 
           totalGlobalMem = 1058734080 
           multiProcessorCount = 30 

   Device 4 : GeForce GTS 250 
           totalGlobalMem = 1058734080 
           multiProcessorCount = 16 
)

Do you see slowdown of all GPU WUs (6.08 & 6.09) or just some of the WUs?

You compute WUs branded for both GPU versions:
SETI@home Enhanced 6.08 (cuda) - {ReSchedule rebranded CPU WUs 6.03 -> 6.08}
SETI@home Enhanced 6.09 (cuda23) - {server sent GPU WUs}
Do you see difference in calculation speed of the two versions?

Are you sure that ReSchedule sees all WUs?

(I still wonder how ReSchedule can work with v6.09 WUs - I was thinking it can work only with v6.08 <--> v6.03)

3263) Message boards : Number crunching : Rescheduler weirdness and strange errors (Message 1005668)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
same here, all machines except my fermi rig happily crunching away and that rig gets the odd AP, but no fermi units and lots of that annoying error message.

Im sure they will sort it out in the end


I think you can "trick" the server (if they disabled generation of v6.10 WUs for Fermi)
to send you v6.09 branded WUs

In your app_info.xml copy the section about Fermi app and in the copy replace 610 with 609, e.g.:

    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>610</version_num>
        ...................
    </app_version>

    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>609</version_num>
        ...................
    </app_version>
3264) Message boards : Number crunching : ReSchedule and the New Credit System (Message 1005589)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I wonder will ReSchedule confuse the New Credit System?

It measures the performance of every science app running on the computer.

ReSchedule moves the WUs between apps (CPU <--> GPU) but the server "thinks" the WU is done by the app WU was sent for.

3265) Message boards : Number crunching : 2 gtx 295? super slow crunching (Message 1005573)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

It shows
Application version - SETI@home Enhanced v6.09 (cuda23)

but it was done by the CPU (so ReSchedule works):

Stderr output
setiathome_enhanced 6.02 DevC++/MinGW
libboinc: 6.3.6

Work Unit Info:
...............
WU true angle range is :  0.015072
Optimal function choices:
-----------------------------------------------------
name                
-----------------------------------------------------
              v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)
  v_vGetPowerSpectrumUnrolled2 0.00011 0.00000 
             sse3_ChirpData_ak 0.00950 0.00000 
                 v_vTranspose4 0.00171 0.00000 
                AK SSE folding 0.00212 0.00000 

Flopcounter: 38781110656343.859000



I wonder how ReSchedule can work with v6.09 WUs - I was thinking it can work only with v6.08 <--> v6.03

3266) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange Entry Application Info Page (Message 1005558)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Everybody using optimized apps (app_info.xml) see this
SETI@home Enhanced (anonymous platform, Unknown)

Those are the tasks downloaded before the change of credit system.


Application info for host 4832843

SETI@home Enhanced (anonymous platform, Unknown)
Number of tasks completed 21
Max tasks per day 41
Number of tasks today 0
Consecutive valid tasks 21
Average turnaround time 21.42 days

SETI@home Enhanced (anonymous platform, CPU)
Number of tasks completed 6
Max tasks per day 106
Number of tasks today 26
Consecutive valid tasks 6
Average turnaround time 0.46 days

3267) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU or not GPU, that is the question. (Message 1005545)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I was reading this page and found that my graphics card, somewhat suprisingly, was compatible. It has an ATI Radeon HD 2400 PRO adaptor, listed as compatible on the aforementioned page. I upgraded BOINC to 6.10.56 as directed, downloaded and installed the newest driver, indeed, Windows says it cannot find one newer, rebooted and found...

15/06/2010 16:53:38 No usable GPUs found

... in the BOINC log. I have not tried connecting to a GPU project, doesn't seem a lot of point if BOINC can't see a GPU. Somewhat puzzling.

It is not a great problem as the projects that can use this card, (actually, I have several machines with cards like this installed), are few and far between, but it would be interesting to get this working - if, indeed, it can be made so.


Do you use "Protected application execution" (= Service = Daemon) install?
Do you have second GPU (integrated on the mainboard) in this computer?

Edit:
I see you started discussion on BOINC Message boards:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=5815

3268) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Work unit order (Message 1005508)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


If it starts another task in High priority mode BOINC "thinks" that this task is in danger of missing the deadline.

It happens if the new downloads have very close deadline ("shorties")
or if you heavy use the computer (e.g. game) - this appears to BOINC as if your computer just become slower.

P.S.
In fact all the decisions and management are done by BOINC client (boinc.exe)
BOINC Manager (boincmgr.exe) is just GUI which you use to monitor and give orders to the BOINC client.
You can also control boinc.exe by boinccmd.exe (Command Line)

You can exit BOINC Manager but keep boinc.exe running and all will be fine -
I do it on my slower computer (on which BOINC Manager uses 5-10% CPU time).
Per 1-2 days I start BOINC Manager (just curious to see the progress) and exit it again.


Look here how to exit BOINC Manager but keep boinc.exe running:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59781&nowrap=true#992660

Check [v] Stop running science applications when exiting the Manager
to exit boinc.exe

UnCheck [ ] Stop running science applications when exiting the Manager
to keep boinc.exe running

3269) Message boards : Number crunching : New Cross Project Host ID every few days? (Message 1005191)
Posted 17 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Oh, yes, you have 3
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Extreme CPU X9650
but 2 of them are from 2008 & 2009
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?sort=rpc_time&rev=0&show_all=1&userid=2896451
3270) Message boards : Number crunching : New Cross Project Host ID every few days? (Message 1005188)
Posted 17 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Can't they be merged?

I do not see identical CPUs in your hosts:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=2896451
3271) Message boards : Number crunching : How to reschedule VLARs? (Message 1005155)
Posted 17 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
There is a re-branding tool:

http://lunatics.kwsn.net/12-gpu-crunching/cpu-gpu-rebranding-perl-script.msg18617.html#msg18617
Can you use the above ReSchedule tool to shift tasks from a GTX 470 using the Fermi 6.10 stock application to cpu? In my case i have a 980x running at 3.33ghz


Only optimized (Anonymous platform) by editing the app_info.xml
ReSchedule "understands" only 6.03 <--> 6.08

Read this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60079&nowrap=true#1004402

3272) Questions and Answers : Windows : Screensaver alters startbar size (Message 1005103)
Posted 17 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"every time boinc runs":
explain in more detail -

Do you mean - you exit BOINC, resize task bar width, start BOINC again and the task bar width is changed (to what?)?
Or did you reboot to restart BOINC?
Or is the task bar width change from time to time while BOINC is running?
Or is it change after Screensaver exits? (just don't use the Screensaver)
What happens when another Screensaver runs?

How did you find that BOINC is the cause?

3273) Questions and Answers : Windows : Results (Message 1005063)
Posted 17 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I check the "My Results" page.
I'm curious, out of the last ~250 task I have completed.
95% are "Completed, waiting for validation".
I have more tasks Pending than have been validated in the last couple of months.

I'm done cooking SETIs data until it's caught up.


You have:
Credit: 146,147
RAC: 1,205

Let say that one validated task gives ~100 credit.

So since Mar 3 10 you have 146147/100 = 1461 validated tasks (they disappear from the list after ~24 hours)

Every day you have about 12 validated task (RAC/100)
or
Every day you have about 14 validated task (1461 validated tasks / 105 days since join date)

3274) Questions and Answers : Windows : Boinc Version 6.10.56 issues (Message 1005034)
Posted 17 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

How it happens you claim to have such observations
but you have NO computers attached to SETI after 6 months??!

(
Joined: Dec 30 09
Credit: 0
)

3275) Questions and Answers : Windows : printer readouts (Message 1003855)
Posted 14 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I don't think anyone understands what you ask.

How do you "connect" printer to any "programme"?

What do you imagine/want to be printed on paper??!

3276) Questions and Answers : Windows : Core i7 x980 (Message 1003846)
Posted 13 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

So?

The picture (one year old) is only to illustrate where to look to find the numbers
and then post this numbers here (X.xx CPU + Y.yy GPU).

I say "e.g. 0.40 (40%) CPU" - there is NO correlation between my example of 0.40 and the 0.04 on the picture.

I don't know what it is really so I ask people which have CUDA to post the real numbers.

3277) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Used to have an account on seti@home long time ago (Message 1003844)
Posted 13 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I still can log into account but no longer have the software to run anything. When I load the new stuff is there something I need to do to make it go to the existing account.


If by "the new stuff" you mean BOINC you have to attach to project.

Switch BOINC Manager to Advanced Mode
From Menu: Tools -> Attach to project....

Select SETI@home
Select * Yes, existing user
Enter (Copy/Paste from Your Account) the correct email address (as you see it in Your Account no matter is the email still valid)

All the "stuff" SETI needs (programs + data) will then be downloaded and started automatically.

3278) Questions and Answers : Wish list : BOINC Wish List (Message 1003780)
Posted 13 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Why impossible, every true relation database have such a mechanism. Need just to take engine under GPL or something like license and use to store temporary results. In case of unproper shutdown it just rollbacks to last properly saved savepoint and continue from there.


This is done long ago and it is working exactly this way -
by default every minute the state is saved. (I like to set this value to 5 minutes (300 seconds))

But if the power loss happens in the exact same second when the state files are saved they may get corrupted.

You obviously want 2 (or more) checkpoints
SETI app stores one - state.sah
BOINC stores two - client_state_prev.xml and client_state.xml

(and client_state_next.xml during state saving, then renames the files:
Creates client_state_next.xml
Deletes client_state_prev.xml
Renames client_state.xml --> client_state_prev.xml
Renames client_state_next.xml --> client_state.xml
)

(I don't know is client_state_prev.xml used automatically by BOINC if it finds that client_state.xml is corrupted
or the user have to find out the corruption himself and rename the files?)

P.S.
Every program here is under GPL license.

3279) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Recent Average lis low (Message 1003773)
Posted 13 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Maybe you have to read this:
NEW Pref.: Suspend work if CPU usage is > XX %
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58787

1) Look in Messages tab to see what happens (when and why the computation is suspended, what preferences are in effect)

2) Look in Windows Task Manager to see which processes use the most of the CPU time

3) Use Lunatics' Unified Installer (Optimized SETI)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54288&nowrap=true#994550


3280) Questions and Answers : Windows : Core i7 x980 (Message 1003750)
Posted 13 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... My other i7 965 is working the cores perfectly.


Your Computer with CPU:
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 965 @ 3.20GHz
have 2 GPUs
[2] NVIDIA GeForce GT 240 (986MB)

Your Computer with CPU:
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU X 980 @ 3.33GHz
have 3 GPUs
[3] NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 (1009MB)

So if the standard SETI CUDA app "thinks" it needs e.g. 0.40 (40%) of a CPU core to support feeding of 1 GPU with data you have:

For 2 GPUs
2 * 0.40 = 0.80 (80%) of a CPU core is reserved for feeding of 2 GPUs with data

For 3 GPUs
3 * 0.40 = 1.20 (120%) = more than one CPU core --> so 1 + 0.2 CPU cores are reserved for feeding of 3 GPUs with data


Obviously recently standard SETI CUDA app overestimates the need for CPU feeding support.


What do you see (in BOINC Manager - Tasks tab) on the two above mentioned Computers
about the CPU usage of any running CUDA task
(it shows as e.g. "Running (0.40 CPUs, 1 CUDA)" or "Running (0.40 CPUs + 1.00 NVIDIA GPUs)" for newer BOINC)







( I borrowed the image from this post (I have no CUDA host):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=52212&nowrap=true#885336
)


3281) Questions and Answers : Windows : Only 7 of 8 cpus being used (Message 1002623)
Posted 10 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Look my answer here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60277&nowrap=true#1002618

3282) Questions and Answers : Windows : Core i7 x980 (Message 1002618)
Posted 10 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Seems that if you install
Lunatics' Unified Installer
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54288&nowrap=true#994550

the problem goes away.


Use CPU-Z to find the capabilities of your CPU
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
(Download links at the right)

Select SSSE3 or SSE4.x app/setting in the installer.
Select CUDA 2.3 DLLs for faster GPU calculation.


You also will be able to use
ReSchedule 1.9
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59291

to move the tasks as you wish between CPU <--> GPU

3283) Questions and Answers : Windows : Core i7 x980 (Message 1002347)
Posted 10 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Maybe this thread have clues about the problem:
Have work but only runing 7 tasks not 8?

3284) Message boards : Number crunching : new error message (Message 1002344)
Posted 10 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... BTW, my results status all report as "Anonymous platform", even ones awarded points after these messages started.


It appears that the Application = Not in DB (instead of Anonymous platform)
depends on the time Sent (downloaded), not the Time reported or validated -
the text is "Not in DB" even for tasks "In progress" Sent after 9 Jun 2010:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=4832843

3285) Questions and Answers : Windows : Core i7 x980 (Message 1002199)
Posted 9 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

No, you have none

You are talking about this computer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5344008

All In progress tasks for computer 5344008
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5344008&offset=0&show_names=1&state=1
...........
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5344008&offset=1700&show_names=1&state=1

are only CUDA tasks (1700+ of them - I browsed all 85 pages)

3286) Questions and Answers : Windows : Core i7 x980 (Message 1002165)
Posted 9 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Maybe you just run out of work for the CPU

Do you have any
SETI@home Enhanced v6.03
tasks left on your computer? (only 6.03 can be done by the CPU)

To see if you have any CPU workunits to crunch
in Tasks tab sort by Application column.
(make sure you Show all tasks - not just Show active tasks)

3287) Questions and Answers : Windows : Why doesn't the Screen Saver Work??? (hints inside) (Message 1002136)
Posted 9 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

1) I never bother to "uninstall BOINC, RESTART your computer and install BOINC" -
You only need to exit the running BOINC and install the "new" (on top of the previous).
("new" in quotation marks because this way you can even install older version of BOINC if you want to go back)

2) The directory:
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC
is only valid for Win XP - it is different in Win 98, Vista, Win 7

3) There is no file with name stderrgfx.txt in BOINC data directory;
there are stderrdae.txt & stderrgui.txt

4) Diagnosing why the BOINC screen saver hangs or can't start or can't exit
is difficult even for experienced users.

3288) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Your NVIDIA GPU has insufficient memory. (Message 1001788)
Posted 8 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Did you reboot lately?

You may want to read:
GPU RAM: any ideas on how to free up a few MB?

3289) Message boards : Number crunching : Test, 6.09 -> x41g, 190.38 -> 285.58 (Message 1001771)
Posted 8 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

And what about changing the video drivers version backwards?

Sutaru is now using 190.38 (after using for the test 197.45):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=8619447

3290) Questions and Answers : Windows : ReSchedule 1.9 (my weird direct link) (Message 1001740)
Posted 8 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


I see many Valid tasks for computer 5424775
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5424775&offset=0&show_names=1&state=3

and only a few in Error
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5424775&offset=0&show_names=1&state=5

Can you post your app_info.xml ?
(use [pre] ... [/pre] to retain formatting)

You are using Windows 7 x64 -
I don't know is there a x64 fermi app that you can use.

3291) Message boards : Number crunching : Test, 6.09 -> x41g, 190.38 -> 285.58 (Message 1001400)
Posted 7 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
300+ thread views and only 3 replies..

Hmm.. not much appreciated.. but I guess much used..


How long did it take to do these tests?

I think changing the video drivers back and forth is not easy thing.
Do you use some special tool, e.g.:

Driver Sweeper
http://www.guru3d.com/category/driversweeper/

to completely uninstall the video drivers before installing the next?
(many reboots, eh)

3292) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Your NVIDIA GPU has insufficient memory. (Message 1001382)
Posted 6 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have unhid my computers. I haven't changed any desktop settings, and I am running Windows 7 and Aero as I have always been.

I do update BOINC and my video card drivers on a regular basis. If reverting the driver will fix it, what is the latest version that will work, and where can I download it?

Also, does SETI@home really need so much video memory? I wonder if they can address this in a future update as this seems like a new problem.


If you want to stay with the latest video card drivers the solution is to use

Lunatics' Unified Installer
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54288&nowrap=true#994550

During the Installation choose CUDA 2.2 DLLs

3293) Questions and Answers : Preferences : No Jobs Available (Message 1001378)
Posted 6 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.

Your first SETI workunit is of type Astropulse v505 v5.05 (rare (1-3% chance to get such) long workunit)

Don't be surprised if it runs 3-6 days on your CPU - it gives correspondingly big (~800) credit points.

"Normal" (MB = MultiBeam = SETI@home Enhanced v6.03) workunits will take about 5-15 hours.

.
3294) Questions and Answers : Windows : Be kind ... I'm old (grin). (Message 1001368)
Posted 6 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Note that this is still me ... the same person ... logged in under my old AlecWest account.

Regards,
J. Alec West (aka ProfessorBarnhardt, AlecWest, and MadAsHell)


You have to decide which of the 3 BOINC accounts you want to use in the future - they can not be merged.

When attaching to project use the e-mail address defined in the chosen account.

You can anytime change the name of the account (e.g. ProfessorBarnhardt -> J_Alec_West)


It is good to read (HOME page - left-middle)

Special instructions:
* For SETI@home Classic participants
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic.php

You already Claimed your SETI@home Classic workunits (by using BOINC with account ProfessorBarnhardt)
- these Classic workunits will remain forever connected to this account (no matter if you change its name or e-mail)

Can you Log-in to ProfessorBarnhardt account?
It seems to me that you can - your computers "travel" between the 3 accounts the last few days.

.
3295) Questions and Answers : Windows : looking for an addon map for previous searches (Message 1001365)
Posted 6 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
any suggestions for an addon that would show me where i have searched and what results i found?


For setting BoincLogX look my answer here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=55127&nowrap=true#927634

You can find BoincLogX 1.52 & SetiMapView 6.54 here:
http://www.bjoernhenke.de/frame.htm?/boinclogx/index.en.htm
http://www.bjoernhenke.de/frame.htm?/smv/index.en.htm

.
3296) Message boards : Number crunching : Just for fun: Classic SETI in Action! (Message 1000867)
Posted 5 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you want to try another work_unit.sah (e.g. TLCwork_unit.zip from the post above by Josef W. Segur)
but preserve the progress of the current unit:

A) First solution:

1) Move the following files to a new empty directory:

work_unit.sah
result_header.sah
outfile.sah
key.sah
state.sah

2) Copy the new work_unit.sah to the SETI@home directory

3) Start SETI@home.exe


B) Second solution (better):

1) Make a Copy of the entire SETI@home directory

2) Copy the new work_unit.sah to the (copy of) SETI@home directory replacing/overwriting the previous work_unit.sah

3) Start SETI@home.exe

This way you can easy run either of the workunits and keep the progress of both.


(I also did try to run both workunits simultaneously but the second SETI@home.exe do not want to start (while another SETI@home.exe is in memory) on my single-core processor.

If you have multi-core CPU try to run both at the same time and see what happens.

Maybe some other tweak is needed for simultaneous run of two SETI@home.exe clients.
)

3297) Message boards : Number crunching : HELP!!! My son has reforrmatted my Ext-HD (Message 1000510)
Posted 4 Jun 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I'm 90% certain that the program used by Es99 is PowerDataRecovery
as described in this post (2-3 posts before the post by Es99 about successful recovery):

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60007&nowrap=true#997548


But Es99 have to be kind enough to explain in detail the recovery procedure
(
Program (& price paid for it if any),
settings used,
what to do (step by step: 1) first I .....; 2) second I ....),
what to avoid ("first I did *THIS* but it was my mistake so I did ~THAT~ and it worked"),
how much time the recovery took,
how much free disk space on another drive is needed,
what OS (Windows) was running on the computer used for recovery,
etc...
)
to help other readers here (many of which did help with advice when Es99 was in trouble).


We want to be confident what and how to use in case we also fall in such kind of trouble.


3298) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Large increase of computation duration (Message 998983)
Posted 26 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Lunatics' Unified Installer info
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54288&nowrap=true#994550

ReSchedule 1.9 info
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59291


3299) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lunatics' Unified Installer (Optimized SETI) (Message 998977)
Posted 26 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


If you are curious what is inside the Lunatics' Unified Installer
you can use 7-Zip to see the contents of the installer
and extract all or individual files:

http://www.7-zip.org/
http://www.7-zip.org/download.html

( Note:
7-Zip & WinRAR coexist well together

I prefer WinRAR so I did the following:

- Run 7-Zip as administrator
- Tools -> Options - [Select all] (extensions), [OK]
- Exit 7-Zip

- Run WinRAR as administrator
- Options -> Settings -> Integration tab - [Select all] (extensions), [OK]
- Exit WinRAR
)







3300) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : third gpu cuda wont work (Message 998935)
Posted 26 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.

@ Robert P. Herbst

1) Nobody except spam bots will reply to your e-mail
(some of the moderators helped you to not receive huge spam by hiding your post)

2) Read the post above (from Ageless)

3) Read:

BOINC Not Using Both GPUs
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59329

third gpu wont use cuda
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59967

4) Search Google for VGA dummy plug

The 30 Second Dummy Plug
http://www.overclock.net/overclock-net-folding-home-team/384733-30-second-dummy-plug.html

.
3301) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Que son los creditos? (Message 998777)
Posted 25 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

What are credits for?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58291

Credits
http://home.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59557

3302) Message boards : Number crunching : Hard drive with data on it appears to be unformatted (Message 998677)
Posted 25 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Read many suggestions for useful programs in the thread

HELP!!! My son has reforrmatted my Ext-HD
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60007


3303) Questions and Answers : Windows : old seti@home user trying to start again/account issues? (Message 998661)
Posted 25 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Maybe your problem is described here:

Instructions for SETI@home Classic users
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic.php

" ......
When we launched SETI@home/BOINC, we created accounts for all SETI@home Classic users, with their existing email addresses. Each account includes the number of SETI@home Classic workunits completed, the CPU time, and the start date. These accounts were not given passwords (i.e., they can't be accessed using any password).

When you run BOINC and attach to SETI@home, it will ask you for an email address and password. What do you type for a password?
......
"

3304) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Merging 2 BOINC accounts into 1 (Message 998655)
Posted 25 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I read that it is impossible to merge SETI classic with the new BOINC. However, is it possible to merge 2 BOINC accounts into one?


It is exactly the opposite - you can merge SETI classic with BOINC account (but not 2 BOINC accounts into one)

On the HOME page look (left-center):

Special instructions:
For SETI@home Classic participants
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic.php

3305) Questions and Answers : Windows : old seti@home user trying to start again/account issues? (Message 998393)
Posted 24 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Try as Gundolf said - while you are in Your account Copy the e-mail address (to Notepad)
then Log-out, click ACCOUNT
and Paste the e-mail address (from Notepad)

If you have e-mail e.g.:
digitania@xyz.com

but in Your account it is e.g.:
DigiTania@xyz.com
digitania@xyz.Com
digitania@Xyz.com

you can't Log-in with digitania@xyz.com

3306) Message boards : Number crunching : Just for fun: Classic SETI in Action! (Message 998336)
Posted 24 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


( The original download is at Message 994346:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59278&nowrap=true#994346

http://mail.dir.bg/~bil/SETI@home__Classic_SETI_for_fun__--BilBg--.rar
)


I forgot to include the "real" ScreenSaver file (SETIhome.scr) (which (usually) resides in Windows directory):

http://mail.dir.bg/~bil/SETIhome_Scr.rar
or
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-1b8bb304.html


Save the .rar
Extract to any directory (good place is SETI@home directory)
Run SETI@home.exe
(You can now Minimize SETI@home.exe to systray (click [X]))
Run SETIhome.scr


(Note:
If you have AutoCAD installed it "steals" (associates) .scr extension
(AutoCAD Script files have the same .scr extension as any ScreenSaver)

In this case (similar applies for any ScreenSaver you want to run manually):

Make Copy of SETIhome.scr
Rename the copy to SETIhome.scr.exe
Make Shortcut to SETIhome.scr.exe
Edit Shortcut Properties
- Add /s at the end of the command line:
  "C:\.......\SETI@home\SETIhome.scr.exe" /s 

- Change icon to greendis.ico
Run the Shortcut (while SETI@home.exe is in memory)
)


The display of the SETIhome.scr is the same as of SETI@home.exe (non-scalable graphic in the center of black screen):
(the original screen-shot was 1600x1200 - I crop it to 1024x768)






3307) Message boards : Number crunching : HELP!!! My son has reforrmatted my Ext-HD (Message 997548)
Posted 21 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I just pulled out my pen drive to experiment with and to see if I had any of the lost files on it.

It seems the teenager also reformatted that with his XBox. :(

He had a busy day.


Using the program "power data recovery" suggested by someone reading here, I have managed to save everything on the pen drive! Even the files that the Xbox had written over, although the folder structure was a little messed up, but I've managed to save a Math teaching program I had forgotten I even had! :)

Tomorrow I shall tackle the HD.


Did you used this procedure for recovering the files from USB stick?:
http://www.powerdatarecovery.com/help/how-do-i-recover-format.htm
http://www.powerdatarecovery.com/help/advanced-recovery.htm


Yes. It was very simple.

However, the USB was already FAT32 before the XBox reformatted, so we will see how well the program does with a drive that has been reformatted to a different file system.


So make an experiment on the USB stick -
Format it to NTFS, copy folders/files, Quick-format it to FAT-32
and try the recovery.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60007&nowrap=true#996726

3308) Message boards : Number crunching : HELP!!! My son has reforrmatted my Ext-HD (Message 997296)
Posted 20 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I just pulled out my pen drive to experiment with and to see if I had any of the lost files on it.

It seems the teenager also reformatted that with his XBox. :(

He had a busy day.


Using the program "power data recovery" suggested by someone reading here, I have managed to save everything on the pen drive! Even the files that the Xbox had written over, although the folder structure was a little messed up, but I've managed to save a Math teaching program I had forgotten I even had! :)

Tomorrow I shall tackle the HD.


Did you used this procedure for recovering the files from USB stick?:
http://www.powerdatarecovery.com/help/how-do-i-recover-format.htm
http://www.powerdatarecovery.com/help/advanced-recovery.htm

3309) Message boards : Number crunching : HELP!!! My son has reforrmatted my Ext-HD (Message 997022)
Posted 19 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Recuva works quite well, and it's free. You'll need another hard drive that is large enough to store all the recovered data.

http://www.piriform.com/recuva

We tried a scan with this, but it only picked up the XBox files that my son had copied onto the drive. It said all the other stuff was unrecoverable. :(

Are any of the programs suggested capable of specifically recovering files from NTFS after the drive has been formatted FAT32?

I've taken the boyfriend off the case until I am satisfied that he knows what he is doing! (I think I hurt his feeling a little though).


You don't give us enough information to think about

1) Did you used "Deep scan"?
(Very important, because the file system and cluster size changed and the program do not know about this -
it "thinks" you are trying to recover the Xbox files you deleted from FAT32 file system)

You can try any other of the suggested programs in scan (read) mode but be sure to select the option to scan every sector of the disk.
It will be best if software allows to manually select the (corrupted) file system (you want NTFS) so the program will know what to search.


2) You had about 100 GB of files on the disk (am I guessing right?) -
They are:
- a few (20-30) BIG (4 GB each) files (DVD images)
or
- many 1000s of small files?


3) How many GB of data your son copied to the disk?


4) "... all the other stuff was unrecoverable": how many files and how many GB of "other unrecoverable stuff" was found?


P.S.
Raistmer pointed out this software:
http://www.r-studio.com/

It looks quite professional:
http://www.r-tt.com/Articles/Why_RStudio/index.shtml

It says:
" R-Studio utilities recover files:
...
After the partition with the files was reformatted, even for different file system;
...
"
http://www.data-recovery-software.net/#features

You may want to read this:
Specifics of File Recovery After a Quick Format
http://www.r-tt.com/Articles/NTFS_Recovery_after_Quick_Format/index.shtml

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3310) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Remote Desktop and CUDA (Message 996862)
Posted 18 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You can read:

Remote Desktop
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54045

Crashing GPUs when coming in with Remote Desktop
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59604

3311) Message boards : Number crunching : HELP!!! My son has reforrmatted my Ext-HD (Message 996845)
Posted 18 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The drive was not recently defragmented before I loaded it up. I had a few things on there before I copied a whole lot more over just before I moved.
It is a 180G portable drive, but I don't think I had used even half of that.

Sounds good - you can expect 90% of the files to be not-fragmented (good for recovery)

I do not know how Xbox formats the disks -
it is important to check (before the recovery) that now the "empty" FAT32 disk
looks as having size ~180 GB (and not something like 32 GB)
(In this case (to see the full disk size) new partitioning may be required (made by experienced person who knows/is informed that the data on the disk have to be preserved for further recovery))


A lot of the files (and the ones I really want back) are teaching resource disks that were full of 1000s of valuable worksheets, games, teaching videos etc. Stuff that I have accumulated over 8 years of teaching and that would cost $1000s to replace.

"teaching resource disks":
What do you mean - .iso files? (or similar CD/DVD images)
If such (BIG - 700MB - 4.5GB) file is successfully recovered it will contain all the files/folders (found on the originating CD/DVD) with their original names and contents (very good).
(If you are using Alcohol 120% or DAEMON Tools to mount the images from this portable disk (to see them as new drive letters, e.g. F: G: H:) there are CD/DVD images (.iso, .cue/.bin, .mds/.mdf, .nrg, ...) to be recovered)

But if you just copied the contents of the CD/DVD as "normal" files:
Video files can be recovered (.avi begin with "RIFF....AVI", .swf begin with "CWS" - so deep scan can find the files)
Worksheets - if you mean .xls they can be found (begin with bytes "D0 CF 11 E0")
(almost every file type has some signature in the beginning (header))

Games may be hard to recover (if they consist of many files) - they depend on exact filenames and folder tree structure (as any complex program).
(But if "game" means just one .exe setup/install file per game it is OK for recover)

Use "Deep scan" (will take long but will scan all sectors (all 180 GB) and find all that can be found):
http://docs.piriform.com/recuva/technical-information/how-recuva-works

Expect that some of the files will not have the names you know but be named e.g.:
file0001.doc
file0002.exe
file0003.jpg
file0004.avi


The BF claims to have successfully recovered the contents of HDs before using this software. I will point him towards everyone's advice in this thread before I allow him to proceed! It would be a shame if I had to disguise both him and the teenager as raccoons and rehome them both in Eric's garden.

"using this software":
What software?

"claims to have successfully recovered ...":
"Torture" him to pass the "USB stick test" -

You do the steps from "* Format it to NTFS" to "* Now - Quick-format it to FAT-32".

Then give him the "empty" USB stick (looking at the contents you have to see no files).

Ask him to show you (in front of your eyes) how he recovers the files from the USB stick.

You will learn:
- is he good enough (in recovery - not in bed ;) )
- how the recovery is done
- what you can expect - are the files with the same names, in the same folders and the same contents
(I would expect some 10-20% to be in the root directory (or directory named e.g. "Recovered Files") with "generic" names like "Recovered_File_00001.xls")
- how long it takes
(it can be many hours (for the HDD with 1000s of files) so if he is successful make him a good dinner (I can hear him asking for something after the dinner ... ;) ))

You have to invest some time (hours, even days) to learn, understand and experiment.

Good luck

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3312) Message boards : Number crunching : HELP!!! My son has reforrmatted my Ext-HD (Message 996726)
Posted 17 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Please - do not go Off-topic -
this thread is about how to Recover - Not how to destroy :)


@Es99:
You did not say - how big is this external HDD?
How many GB of (your valuable) data had been on it?
(
The data is still there (even if "standard" (not-quick) format is done on HDD) but not visible as files.
The format only reads all the sectors of the disk to make sure they are readable (not "bad" sectors)
and then overwrites the first 2-20 MB of the disk with empty root directory and FAT (mostly zero bytes).
)

When you last defragmented it? (do NOT do it now!)
Or is/was it full of data fresh-copied just before you "recently emigrated to Canada"?


Any recovery software will benefit if the files are on consecutive sectors on the disk.

The recovery software reads every sector (= 512 bytes) of the HDD
and searches for some identifiable strings (found at the beginning of the sector where the file starts/was before)
to recognize the file type (and that this sector is the starting point of a file)

e.g.
EXE, DLL, SYS, VXD, ... files start with "MZ"
RAR files start with "Rar!"
ZIP files start with "PK"
PNG files start with "‰PNG"
JPG files start with "......JFIF"
DOC files have "... Word ... Document ..." strings inside
etc. ...

Some files have info in the header for their length.

The best of all - if sub-folders are found (they start with "." and ".." entries)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table#Directory_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS

The sub-folders contain real filenames and pointers to the sector/cluster where the file starts
but the file AFAIK have to be in consecutive sectors/clusters to be recovered "to the end".
If the files are freshly-copied onto empty disk or the disk was recently defragmented (before the format)
the files are in consecutive sectors/clusters.

_________________________

You can experiment how good is some recovery software to do the job by USB flash drive ("stick"):

Check first you have NO valuable data on the USB stick!

* Format it to NTFS (if that was the file system of your HDD)
(Open "Computer", right-click on the USB drive (be carefull which drive you select!) and choose "Format...")
* Copy to it some full directory tree (folder with many sub-folders and different files in it)
* Use the icon (near the clock) to "secure remove the drive" (wait for the message "Now you can securely remove the drive")
* Remove the USB stick and insert it again

* Now - Quick-format it to FAT-32 (on USB stick you have to "Quick-format" - else all sectors are zeroed AFAIK).
Look at it - it will "pretend" to be empty

* Run the recovery software
(
e.g. Recuva
http://www.piriform.com/recuva/features

"Recovery from damaged or formatted disks
Even if you've formatted a drive so that it looks blank, Recuva can still find your files on it."

(I use CCleaner - it is good software so I trust PiriForm.
But I never used Recuva - you or your BF have to experiment
I did recovery (using Norton tools) but in the old DOS times 15 years ago)
)

* Try to recover the "extinct" files from the USB stick
* Check the recovered files
(by comparing them to originals (I use Total Commander),
or compress (WinRAR) the originals and the recovered and check they have the same CRC32
or by just opening the recovered files (not very secure method to verify))


Do this experimenting several times using different files to copy to USB stick
to become familiar and confident how to use particular recovery software
and to check what results you can expect.

Wish you successful recovery :)

_________________________



3313) Questions and Answers : Windows : my computer has no gpu? (Message 996345)
Posted 15 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

MW = MilkyWay@home

Your video card's GPU is
ATI Radeon HD 4600 series (R730) (512MB)

ATI Radeonâ„¢ HD 4600 Series
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/ati-radeon-hd-4000/hd-4600/Pages/ati-radeon-hd-4600-overview.aspx

ATI Radeonâ„¢ HD 4600 Series GPU Specifications
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/ati-radeon-hd-4000/hd-4600/Pages/ati-radeon-hd-4600-specifications.aspx

It says:
"128-bit floating point precision for all operations"

I think this is "double precision"

3314) Questions and Answers : Preferences : correct Internet connections (Message 996338)
Posted 15 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.

Uploaded just because they fixed the problem
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets;ranges=d%3Aw

How many times did you see BOINC can't access Internet (Not just "Temporarily failed upload")

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3315) Questions and Answers : Preferences : correct Internet connections (Message 996292)
Posted 14 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.

What happens if you select SETI@home and click the Update button?






Your last download is
10fe07ah.19626.10297.10.10.192_0 - 14 May 2010 6:34:57 UTC

Your Post is - 14 May 2010 23:03:11 UTC

17 hours before your post your BOINC had (and maybe still have) good Internet connection.

I still think it is simply the Uploads problem which all of us have now.

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3316) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Ubuntu (Message 996285)
Posted 14 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you mean Lunatics' Unified Installer - AFAIK there is only for Windows

You can try:

Linux Seti@Home apps
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=1

arkayn Linux Packages
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=53611&nowrap=true#970091

Executable versions of BOINC and SETI@home for various platforms
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/DownloadOther

3317) Questions and Answers : Windows : Projects will not upload (Message 996280)
Posted 14 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Read:

Uploads failing??
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59985

Panic Mode On Server problems
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59938&nowrap=true#996076

3318) Questions and Answers : Preferences : correct Internet connections (Message 996279)
Posted 14 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Read:

Uploads failing??
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59985

Panic Mode On Server problems
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59938&nowrap=true#996076

3319) Questions and Answers : Windows : Projects will not upload (Message 996272)
Posted 14 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Read:

Uploads failing??
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59985

Panic Mode On Server problems
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59938&nowrap=true#996076

3320) Questions and Answers : Web site : 186 Work Units going back almost a month, not yet validated (Message 996269)
Posted 14 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.

Congratulations for your first post in 11 years

Read:

Uploads failing??
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59985

Panic Mode On Server problems
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59938&nowrap=true#996076

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3321) Questions and Answers : Windows : my computer has no gpu? (Message 996155)
Posted 14 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.

You can continue as usual - all is normal.
Just Ignore the message (do not pay any attention to it).

The message for sure is "No NVIDIA GPU" but it does NOT prevent the work to be done by CPU.

Computing on GPU (video card) is only supplemental - if you have NVIDIA GPU (you have ATI)
your computer can use it to compute faster for SETI.

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/GPU_computing


P.S.
MilkyWay@home will continue to run on your CPU (processor).
I do not know if MilkyWay@home can use your ATI GPU.
If it can it will benefit much in speed of computing (10s times faster)

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3322) Message boards : Number crunching : Why isn't my 2-way SLI GTX480 getting any work??? (Message 996133)
Posted 14 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... I think I'd be better off doing cancer research anyways since SETI hasn't found anything in decades anyways.


If you like some other project - go for it.

In fact SETI has too much computing power attached lately (~ 1000s times more then when it started 10-11 years ago)


I'm interested only in SETI - (almost) all other projects deal with things which governments are also willing to support/invest.


NO government invests big money in the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI)

(Or do they know something we don't ... ? ;) )


3323) Questions and Answers : Getting started : VERY NEW to this (Message 996119)
Posted 14 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.

"How do I get projects or tasks?":
Just "attach to project" (very few people use account manager - you probably do not need it)


"And how many GB does this program take?":
BOINC itself - about 20 MB
Projects - depends on the project, how fast your computer is and how many days of work you want to be "kept in stock/reserve/queue/cache" on your computer.

SETI usually needs less than 100 MB hard disk space
(one SETI workunit/task is 350 KB or 8 MB for Astropulse)
(but if you have a $5000 top computer you may use/need 5 GB hard disk space)

(On my older 500 MHz computer with 256 MB RAM and 20 days workunit cache BOINC+SETI use only 30 MB)


You make the restrictions using Preferences:

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Preferences







"Is it going to damage my computer?":
Where did you get such impression?!

2-3 million computers worldwide are running this programs -
did you hear in the news "One million computers exploded today because of SETI computation"? ;)

But check the temperatures:

Temperature Monitoring Programs
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292

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3324) Message boards : Number crunching : Why isn't my 2-way SLI GTX480 getting any work??? (Message 996099)
Posted 14 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

CUDA MB V12b rebuild supposed to work with Fermi GPUs
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59666

GeForce 480 GTX and Seti
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59894

BOINC Not Using Both GPUs
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59329

3325) Message boards : Number crunching : Experience with opt CUDA versus stock CUDA on my ION (Message 995851)
Posted 12 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.

... I will have the twin GTX 480's installed this weekend.

Steve


AFAIK GTX 480 can't be used for CUDA on SETI now - they need to change the app!

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59894

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3326) Message boards : Number crunching : Bad WUs? (Message 995849)
Posted 12 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.

200MHz P1 will need 20 days (24/7) to do one 100-credit WU

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59948&nowrap=true#995359

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3327) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lunatics' Unified Installer (Optimized SETI) (Message 995842)
Posted 12 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.

The CPU tasks are for sure done faster (~ 150-200%) by the app you are using now:
SSSE3x (Intel, Core 2-optimized v8-nographics) V5.13 by Alex Kan
SSSE3x Win64 Build 76


For GPU tasks - did you choose CUDA v2.3 DLLs?
Only in this case optimized GPU app will compute with the same or slightly faster speed!

Before installing the opt apps you used:
SETI@home Enhanced v6.09 (cuda23)
i.e. you used automatically installed CUDA v2.3 DLLs

It does not matter that you now see
SETI@home Enhanced v6.08
in your tasks list in BOINC Manager.

Just re-install Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.36 and select CUDA v2.3 DLLs

Consider also using ReSchedule 1.9
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59291

P.S.
The GPU is NVIDIA GeForce 210 (not G220)

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3328) Message boards : Number crunching : Seti has reduced me to just the GPU (Message 995773)
Posted 12 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Yes, you own your computer and can do whatever you like with it.

But if you go to Windows Explorer and instruct it to Format the disk
will you blame Windows for erasing all of your data?

Tell us, please, which of the programs running on your computer you find
less frustrating than BOINC and which - more?

How BOINC works can be "tweaked" to your (or my) taste/wish as (almost) any other program.

3329) Questions and Answers : Preferences : SETI Reports: Sometimes Honest, sometimes Alzheimers (Message 995464)
Posted 11 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.

Maybe it will be good for you to read these:

Lost Seti@Home Account
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59387

Have 2 accounts
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59619

Used to have an account on seti@home long time ago
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59439

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3330) Message boards : Number crunching : Possible to switch off 50 % of QUAD-CPU ? (Message 995446)
Posted 11 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.

Sorry - you don't read, he already has (almost) 0% crunching on CPU

CPU used only to feed tasks to GPUs

(
the easiest option in this case (CPU idle most of the time) is to enable SpeedStep or Cool'n'Quiet
which will automatically reduce VCore + FSB + Multi when CPU is not loaded
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpeedStep
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cool'n'Quiet
)

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3331) Message boards : Number crunching : Unnecessary log files... (Message 995434)
Posted 10 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

So this 1.6 GB drive is about 10 years "on duty"?!
What brand is it?
3332) Message boards : Number crunching : Unnecessary log files... (Message 995417)
Posted 10 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.

Hiberfil.sys ?
http://www.google.com/search?source=hp&q=hiberfil.sys&aq=1&aqi=g6g-s1g3&aql=&oq=hibe&gs_rfai=

I usually search the disk for all files bigger than 5-10 MB
sort the results by size
decide can I delete some

Find all Temp folders
Look what can be deleted (e.g. more than week old files/folders)

(in Total Commander I make a list of "Temp" folders for easy access
(similar to Favorites in Explorer))

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3333) Message boards : Number crunching : Unnecessary log files... (Message 995406)
Posted 10 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.

Do you use CCleaner
http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner

or manually delete old .tmp etc. junk?

Windows Update creates many folders under C:\Windows which can be deleted
(by CCleaner or manually) to free 100s of MB

Can I delete Windows update files (restore points used to go back to older state)?
http://www.pcuser.com.au/pcuser/hs2.nsf/lookup+1/4C91721303A0BC83CA256ED50006F9A0
http://www.google.bg/search?hl=bg&q=%24NTUninstall&aq=f&aqi=g7&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
http://www.google.bg/search?hl=bg&source=hp&q=%5CSoftwareDistribution%5Cdownload&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

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3334) Message boards : Number crunching : 2 retiring (gracefully) - 1 new cruncher arrives (Message 995359)
Posted 10 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
"... And that's without over-clocking or using the lunatics' client or doing anything silly":

I don't think these two things are "silly" :)


"I wonder what the relative processing power of the project is now compared to when it started":

My old (year 2000) 524 MHz, K6-2+ computer using (old) optimized MMX app
needs 8 days for a 100-credit WU

CUDA GPU can do it in e.g. 10 minutes

(8 * 24 * 60) / 10 = 1152

It is about 1000 times faster after 10 years.

1024 = 2^10

It looks like the processing power for SETI doubled on average every 12 months

According to Moore's law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_law

it have to do it in 18-20 months.

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3335) Message boards : Number crunching : This signal or noise? (Message 995346)
Posted 10 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Связи с этим я в проекте не так давно и много еще не знаю, быстрое, что это? Спасибо!

I'm in the project for not so long ago and still do not know much, quick (tell me), what is this? Thank you!













Миллиарды таких "сигналов" уже найдены:
Billions such "signals" (Triplets, Pulses, Gaussians) found already:

Look:
Science status page
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sci_status.html

The bottom of the picture looks like noise.


You can read:
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/SETI@home
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SETI@home


Old but still (almost) valid info:

How SETI@home works
http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/about_seti/about_seti_at_home_1.html

About The SETI@home Screensaver
http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/screensaver/index.html


(
If you want to see how it worked 10 years ago - get "my" Classic package (800 KB):
Если вы хотите увидеть, как ето работало 10 лет назад - возьмите "мой" Классический пакет (800 KB):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59278&nowrap=true#994346
)

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3336) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC won't stop working (Message 995236)
Posted 10 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
"my older setups had no problems":
It is because you now have CUDA capable card:
NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT
On some workunits (VLARs) computing on the video card will make the computer feel slow

"won't suspend on one core":
You don't need to change the CPU settings - CPU can run at 100% and you will not feel any slowdown.


Change the setting for GPU:

on web site:
Suspend GPU work while computer is in use? YES

in BOINC Manager:
[] Use GPU while computer is in use

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3337) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lunatics' Unified Installer (Optimized SETI) (Message 994550)
Posted 7 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 

New version released:

Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.36
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9


Two problems of the previous version are corrected now:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59769&nowrap=true#994407

1) Checks that BOINC is not running




2) Astropulse - can continue computation of already started workunits (partly done) by any previous version

jason_gee:
"... it is advised to update if you are running AstroPulse r339, so that future versions will install/migrate without issue."



















 
3338) Message boards : Number crunching : Just for fun: Classic SETI in Action! (Message 994346)
Posted 6 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
 


        See the Classic SETI in action

http://mail.dir.bg/~bil/SETI@home__Classic_SETI_for_fun__--BilBg--.rar

Save the .rar
Extract to empty directory
Run SETI@home.exe

(even if you know how it looked 10 years ago see how faster are today's computers)


(
Another "weird" direct link to the same file (in case the first server is offline):

http://ploader.net/files/9291b3902cd6cd79fb7f1bfe921e274c.png

Important:
Right-Click the link
Select "Save ....... As ..." (the exact words denoted by ....... depend on the browser you are using)
Rename 9291b3902cd6cd79fb7f1bfe921e274c.png to SETI@home__Classic_SETI_for_fun__--BilBg--.rar

(NOTE: the file is (renamed by me to) .png to fool the ploader.net that it is a picture; they do not allow .rar)
)





        Listen to the "Classic" sound of space

Go to wu2wav directory
Run wu2wav.exe
Play the generated work_unit.wav





The screenshots:















 
3339) Message boards : Number crunching : Just for fun: Classic SETI in Action! (Message 994205)
Posted 5 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Finally I managed to make the Classic SETI run!

Save this file directly - do NOT copy/paste to Notepad!
http://www.oldurn.com/seti@home/user_info.sah

The problem was that lines in user_info.sah
have to be delimited by LF (LineFeed - Hex 0A) only
- NOT the usual CR/LF (CarriageReturn LineFeed - Hex 0D 0A)

Later I will post the full package ...

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3340) Message boards : Number crunching : Just for fun: Classic SETI in Action! (Message 994198)
Posted 5 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I found 2 more user_info.sah but they do not work either
http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=1061483

(Classic SETI@home.exe still wants to create/attach to account)

3341) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Operating system switchover (Message 994194)
Posted 5 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You can read:
Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_forum.php?id=13

Linux Seti@Home apps
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=1

arkayn Linux Packages
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=53611&nowrap=true#970091

Executable versions of BOINC and SETI@home for various platforms
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/DownloadOther

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3342) Questions and Answers : Windows : How do I put the BOINC icon on my desktop? (Message 994193)
Posted 5 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you also want to have icon for direct run of BOINC Screen Saver make a shortcut manually:

Under Windows folder search for:
boinc.scr
Right-click and "Send To > Desktop"

3343) Questions and Answers : Windows : ReSchedule 1.9 (my weird direct link) (Message 994144)
Posted 5 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


The original link to download ReSchedule1.9.rar from Lunatics:
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/12-gpu-crunching/cpu-gpu-rebranding-perl-script.msg19454.html#msg19454

3344) Message boards : Number crunching : Any easy way to stop the McAfee? (Message 994139)
Posted 5 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.

Uninstall McAfee and get NOD32:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59744&nowrap=true#992299

Uninstallers (removal tools) for common antivirus software
http://kb.eset.com/esetkb/index?page=content&id=SOLN146&cat=DI&actp=LIST

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3345) Questions and Answers : Windows : Reading the data (Message 994131)
Posted 5 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

How SETI@home works, FAQs
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59573&nowrap=true#987819

3346) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Credits (Message 994112)
Posted 5 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

What are credits for?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58291

Credits
http://home.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59557

3347) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Leaving it on While I'm Away From the Computer? (Message 994089)
Posted 4 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I use to reply to "New members" the simplest way possible

So I believe he is using the defaults:
1. BOINC (BOINC.exe) is running (auto started with Windows)
3. BOINC can always run the science applications (in this case SETI)

3348) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Leaving it on While I'm Away From the Computer? (Message 994020)
Posted 4 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Old participants do not look at the screen saver graphic (well - some look from time to time - e.g. once in a month)

The screen saver is not needed - the computations (searching for signals) go all the time in the background while the computer is ON.

3349) Questions and Answers : Windows : Is it possible to use a Radeon GPU AGP with SETI@home? (Message 994008)
Posted 4 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Consider also GeForce GT 240 which is newer, cheaper and has 2 times less power consumption.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59528&nowrap=true#986916


If motherboard supports it (2 or 3 PCI Express slots) 2 x GeForce GT 240 may be better
than one 250 or 260 (considering price, power consumption, performance)

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3350) Questions and Answers : Windows : Problem with running Seti on Windows XP (Message 993857)
Posted 3 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What do you mean by "recently"?
Last week, last month, last year?

Your Computers are hidden - we can't see do you have NVIDIA CUDA capable card?

You can:
Click on ACCOUNT
Click Computing preferences
Click Edit preferences

Change (from NO to YES):
Suspend GPU work while computer is in use? - YES

Click button [Update preferences]


"CPU usage to 50%" means (works this way by design):
1 sec 100%, 1 sec 0%, 1 sec 100%, 1 sec 0%, ......

CPU computation do not slow down the computer at all
(I am now typing on my older 524 MHz K6-2+ computer - CPU at 100% for years (running SETI (almost) all the time) and I feel no slowdown).

You can check by any CPU benchmark - the results will be (almost) the same with SETI On/SETI Off (suspended).


You may have Temperature issues - check:

Temperature Monitoring Programs
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292

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3351) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC not using both GPU's ? (Message 993754)
Posted 3 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
@ woodenboatguy:

The problems and solutions to your problems with 2 GPUs are discussed in your thread:

"BOINC Not Using Both GPUs"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59329

(This link was also in my previous post)


@ Titan:
We can't give much help until you
"post here the first 20-30 lines of messages"

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3352) Questions and Answers : Windows : Is it possible to use a Radeon GPU AGP with SETI@home? (Message 993749)
Posted 3 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

GeForce GTS 250 is just re-badged older GPU generation (== GeForce 9800):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58996&nowrap=true#975030

3353) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC not using both GPU's ? (Message 993451)
Posted 2 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Did you see my edit?

You may read also another thread:
BOINC Not Using Both GPUs
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59329

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3354) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC not using both GPU's ? (Message 993448)
Posted 2 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?language=1&view=91
http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Cc_config.xml
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration

Exit BOINC
Start BOINC again
post here the first 20-30 lines of messages

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3355) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.35 (Message 993444)
Posted 2 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

*scratches head*

[Edit:]
Q: is everyone 'expecting intuitively' that the installer will be able to shut down (and restart) Boinc despite the changes across Boinc revisions require different actions to do this? ... That's good. While doing this programmatically will certainly represent a challenge, it's something I can look into... I'm just a little astounded that the issue never once appeared in testing... *sigh* well I suppose that's par for the course ;)

Jason


If you have no time to "look into" how to "universally" exit/restart BOINC
just make a Warning text on the first page of installer:

__________ *** Warning - Exit BOINC now! ***
(check in Windows Task Manager that BOINC.exe is not shown/running)


3356) Questions and Answers : Windows : Seti@Updated to Astropulse Without My consent (Message 993421)
Posted 2 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
In my experience Astropulse task do not produce more heat/sec then SETI@home Enhanced task so the CPU temperature is the same.
(~ 35-45°C for AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+ @ 3800+ = 2415 MHz, 1.30 V, standard fan+heatsink - "box CPU"; max temp allowed for this CPU is 70°C)

P.S.
Everybody know how to abort tasks; the question is why?!

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3357) Questions and Answers : Windows : Temperature Monitoring Programs (Message 993249)
Posted 1 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

EVGA Precision
http://www.evga.com/PRecision/
http://www.evga.com/Precision/faq.asp

Ability to view temperatures in the system tray
Real-Time on-screen display support for ingame temp, framerate, and clock monitoring
In-app temp/clockspeed monitoring of GPU's

EVGA Precision 1.9.1 Download
http://majorgeeks.com/download6209.html?2010-01-23
http://downloads.guru3d.com/EVGA-Precision-1.9.1-download-2454.html

3358) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Use one GPU only (Message 993229)
Posted 1 May 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Sometimes BOINC starts (bug?) 2 tasks on one GPU

check by GPU-Z temperatures and % load for both GPUs

Temperature Monitoring Programs
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292


Restart BOINC and post the first 20-30 lines of messages


On the page for your computer only one GPU is shown:
Coprocessors - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 (1005MB) driver: 19745
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5388577

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3359) Questions and Answers : Windows : Multiple tasks as "in progress" (Message 992678)
Posted 29 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"in progress" on the task page:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5379405&offset=0&show_names=1&state=0

- Only means that your computer have downloaded the tasks
(you see them as "Ready to start" or "Running" or "Waiting to run" or "Ready to report" or .... in BOINC Manager).

Even if your computer is switched OFF for days they will show as "in progress"
- on the web page you (or anybody) can see 1000s of "in progress" tasks.

Example:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5200036&offset=0&show_names=1&state=1

3360) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lunatics' Unified Installer (Optimized SETI) (Message 992668)
Posted 29 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Read also:

Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.35
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59769&nowrap=true#992264

Optimized Applications and Other Binaries
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=53611

3361) Questions and Answers : Windows : Seti runs after Boinc manager closed (Message 992660)
Posted 29 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.........
However, I just checked your BOINC version and saw that it's pretty old. Maybe you'll have to upgrade to 6.10.x for my advice to work.
........
Gruß,
Gundolf



The options are the same for BOINC 6.6.38











A picture is worth a thousand words :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_picture_is_worth_a_thousand_words

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3362) Questions and Answers : Windows : "Validation Inconclusive" (Message 992658)
Posted 29 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Differences in how different CPU Vendor/Family/Model do rounding of floating point numbers
cause slightly different results

3363) Questions and Answers : Windows : Is this normal? (Message 992409)
Posted 28 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You can try to install Optimized apps (AFAIK they need less Video RAM for CUDA)

Lunatics' Unified Installer (Optimized SETI)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54288

3364) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : How do you know if the GPU is being used? (Message 992304)
Posted 27 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

As Ageless noted it looks like no SETI CUDA (for NVIDIA GPU) app exist for Mac OS X

The Mac OS X apps by arkayn:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=53611&nowrap=true#970091

3365) Questions and Answers : Windows : Trouble with Mc Afee, LT lost connection after attack . . . . . (Message 992299)
Posted 27 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Why do you torture yourself with McAfee (false alarms) or Norton (HUGE, very hard to find out which file it auto-deleted (quarantined) because of "infection")?

Go for NOD32 - faster and secure (never had problems for years)

http://www.eset.com/

Compare ESET to the Competition
http://www.eset.com/home/compare-eset-to-competition

It does NOT lie that harmless keygens & cracks are "threats" (but finds really infected)

It does NOT slow you down by doing unnecessary Full HDD Scans (you can do this manually but it is not needed)
(no Full Scan scheduled by default; After signature update it scans only the programs which are auto-run at Windows startup)

NOD32 finds the threats on-the-fly and clearly tells what threat it found and which file (full path) is infected.


Example of Warning generated by Resident protection of ESET NOD32 Antivirus 2.70.39 (old but good version):





3366) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lunatics' Unified Installer (Optimized SETI) (Message 992283)
Posted 27 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

New version released:

WinXX Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.35

Win32 Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.35 (combined Win32 (for Intel or AMD - SSE and higher) Installer) - 5.43 MB (Lunatics_Win32v0.35_AP505r339_AKv8b_Cuda.exe)
Win64 Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.35 (combined Win64 (for Intel or AMD - SSE3+) Installer) - 4.98 MB
Win98me Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.35 (combined Windows 98/me (for Intel or AMD - SSE and higher) Installer) - 1.73 MB

http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9














The generated app_info.xml
<app_info> 
    <app>
        <name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>AK_v8b_win_SSE3_AMD.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>603</version_num>
        <file_ref>
           <file_name>AK_v8b_win_SSE3_AMD.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app>
        <name>astropulse_v505</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>ap_5.05r339_SSE.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
        <version_num>505</version_num>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>ap_5.05r339_SSE.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>    
    <app>
        <name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>MB_6.08_CUDA_V12_VLARKill_FPLim2048.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>cudart.dll</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>cufft.dll</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>608</version_num>
        <plan_class>cuda</plan_class>
        <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus>
        <coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>MB_6.08_CUDA_V12_VLARKill_FPLim2048.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
         </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
	       <file_name>cudart.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>cufft.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>608</version_num>
        <plan_class>cuda23</plan_class>
        <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus>
        <coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>MB_6.08_CUDA_V12_VLARKill_FPLim2048.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
         </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
	       <file_name>cudart.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>cufft.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
</app_info> 




stderr.txt
Windows optimized S@H Enhanced application by Alex Kan
Version info: SSE3x (AMD/Intel, Core 2-optimized v8-nographics) V5.13 by Alex Kan
SSE3x Win32 Build 76 , Ported by : Jason G, Raistmer, JDWhale

     CPUID: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+ 
     Speed: 1 x 2415 MHz 
     Cache: L1=64K L2=512K
  Features: MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 
 
Work Unit Info:
...............
Credit multiplier is :  2.85
WU true angle range is :  0.011914


3367) Questions and Answers : Web site : The link for (Pacific time) is broken (Message 990594)
Posted 20 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

On the HOME page the link for (Pacific time) http://utc.php/ is broken

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59274&nowrap=true#982742

3368) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Starry Night Pro? (Message 990583)
Posted 20 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
For setting BoincLogX look my answer here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=55127&nowrap=true#927634

You can find BoincLogX 1.52 & SetiMapView 6.54 here:
http://www.bjoernhenke.de/frame.htm?/boinclogx/index.en.htm

Edit:
But now I see you have
Power Macintosh [Power Macintosh Model PowerMac7,3] [AltiVec]
Darwin 9.8.0

These programs will not work for you (Is there some Windows_Emulator_Program for Mac/Darwin?)
Why didn't you asked in the proper forum place (Questions and Answers : Macintosh)?

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3369) Questions and Answers : Web site : Searching individually? (Message 989614)
Posted 16 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
We can't listen this far - AFAIK the max distance we can "hear" is ~50 light years.

No - we can't choose. Even the project can't choose where and when to look.

"
SETI@home searches for possible evidence of radio transmissions from extraterrestrial intelligence using observational data from the Arecibo radio telescope.
The data are taken 'piggyback' or 'passively' while the telescope is used for other scientific programs.
"

http://www.facebook.com/pages/SETIhome/16063264533?v=info

Read also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SETI@home

Message boards : SETI@home Science
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_forum.php?id=9

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3370) Message boards : Number crunching : Loading way too many jobs (Message 989533)
Posted 16 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
My Seti task is 50% done in 2:05:03 with 5:13 remaining. Prsumably it will finish the remaining half in another 2 hours rather than the 5 hours indicated.

Is this the performance from CUDA?

David


Your computer have 2 CPU Cores + 1 GPU so you have to see
3 tasks running simultaneously (click on Progress column to sort the tasks).

If the task is setiathome_enhanced 6.03 it is computed by CPU
If the task is setiathome_enhanced 6.08 or 6.09 it is computed by GPU (Video card) (CUDA)

I will expect CUDA task to be computed in 30 minutes - not 4 hours

P.S.
One of yours CPU tasks completed (took 5.5 hours) and reported (still waiting for credit).
Still none of the CUDA GPU 6.08 tasks are reported as finished.

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3371) Questions and Answers : Windows : Temperature Monitoring Programs (Message 989284)
Posted 15 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

GPU-Z Video card GPU Information Utility
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

Shows several temperatures (GPU, Video RAM, ...) of the Video card

3372) Message boards : Number crunching : Loading way too many jobs (Message 989282)
Posted 15 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
He (David Goldenberg) said in the first post
"Here I'm running BOINC 6.10.43 on a 3 year old Pentium with Windows 7."

BOINC 6.10.43, Windows 7, Created 12 Apr 2010, "Many" Tasks 702 - all match for:
Computer 5369024
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5369024

I think he calls
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
"3 year old Pentium"

Obviously he does not know "The Power of the Dark Side" :) (CUDA)
- this is the fastest of his computers (if I am right guessing the number 5369024)

David, almost all (99%) of the tasks for this computer are
SETI@home Enhanced v6.08 (cuda)

They will be computed by the video card
NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS (256MB)
many times faster (than the tasks v6.03 computed by the CPU)

Read
GPU computing
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/GPU_computing

Get
GPU-Z Video card GPU Information Utility
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

Also get
Temperature Monitoring Programs
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292

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3373) Message boards : Number crunching : "exited with zero status but no 'finished' file" (Message 989281)
Posted 15 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

No heartbeat from core client for 30 sec - exiting

This happens:
- when you see heavy usage of HDD (LED almost constantly lit) (RAM swapping)
and you see many programs say "Not responding"

- or the clock changes to the past (e.g. from 5:00 to 4:00)
(restart of BOINC cures this)

3374) Message boards : Number crunching : Setting for downloading additional WUs? (Message 989280)
Posted 15 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You participate in several projects -
the 11 days WU cache you have is the sum total time of all the WUs from all projects.

If BOINC do not ask for new work
this means your computer is full of work for the next 11 days.

If you want to do more SETI work (and less for other projects)
increase Resource share for SETI from 100 to 200 or 300 or ... in:
SETI@home preferences
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

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3375) Questions and Answers : Preferences : seti keeps being suspend (Message 989082)
Posted 14 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Yes - you can change it to 0 (zero) to allow computation to be done all the time.

Click ACCOUNT (here - at top-right)
Click Computing preferences
Click Edit preferences (at bottom of page)

Change "Suspend work if CPU usage is above" to 0 (zero)
Click button [Update preferences] (at bottom of page)

In BOINC Manager
in Projects tab
select SETI@home
click Update button (at the left)


You may also read:

NEW Pref.: Suspend work if CPU usage is > XX %
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58787

3376) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU tasks versus CPU tasks (Message 988905)
Posted 13 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you don't feel comfortable "tweaking" your computer just leave it as it is.

I see your GPU tasks (SETI@home Enhanced v6.09 (cuda23)) take about 0.5 hour
and your CPU tasks (SETI@home Enhanced v6.03) take about 6-7 hours

You have 2 CPU cores and 1 GPU so you have to see about
6 times more CUDA tasks than CPU tasks.

3377) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : My GPU's are not longer recognized by BOINC (Message 988899)
Posted 13 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I woke up today and BOINC was only processing 4 tasks, no GPU tasks at all. I cant' figure out why. I restarted BOINC and still nothing.

I tried re-installing BOINC, uninstalling Lunatic's optimizing app, reinstalling NVIDIA's drivers but still nothing. Any ideas people?

4/12/2010 3:49:31 PM Starting BOINC client version 6.10.45 for windows_x86_64
4/12/2010 3:49:31 PM Config: report completed tasks immediately
4/12/2010 3:49:31 PM Config: use all coprocessors
4/12/2010 3:49:31 PM log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
4/12/2010 3:49:31 PM Libraries: libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.3
4/12/2010 3:49:31 PM Running as a daemon
4/12/2010 3:49:31 PM Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
4/12/2010 3:49:31 PM Running under account boinc_master
4/12/2010 3:49:31 PM Processor: 4 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 860 @ 2.80GHz [Family 6 Model 30 Stepping 5]
4/12/2010 3:49:31 PM Processor: 256.00 KB cache
4/12/2010 3:49:31 PM Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 syscall nx lm vmx smx tm2 popcnt pbe
4/12/2010 3:49:31 PM OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Home Premium x64 Edition, (06.01.7600.00)
4/12/2010 3:49:31 PM Memory: 7.99 GB physical, 15.98 GB virtual
4/12/2010 3:49:31 PM Disk: 931.41 GB total, 806.61 GB free
4/12/2010 3:49:31 PM Local time is UTC -4 hours
4/12/2010 3:49:31 PM No usable GPUs found
4/12/2010 3:49:31 PM SETI@home Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
4/12/2010 3:49:31 PM SETI@home URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 5326435; resource share 100
4/12/2010 3:49:31 PM SETI@home General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 05-Jul-2005 06:04:48)
4/12/2010 3:49:31 PM SETI@home Computer location: home
4/12/2010 3:49:31 PM SETI@home General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
4/12/2010 3:49:31 PM Reading preferences override file
4/12/2010 3:49:31 PM Preferences:
4/12/2010 3:49:31 PM max memory usage when active: 4091.52MB
4/12/2010 3:49:31 PM max memory usage when idle: 7364.74MB
4/12/2010 3:49:31 PM max disk usage: 10.00GB
4/12/2010 3:49:31 PM suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 25 %


It's obvious - you did Protected (= Service = Daemon) install.
(on Vista & Windows 7 in this case GPU can't be used by BOINC)

Just reinstall BOINC (no need to uninstall) and deselect "Protected application execution"

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3378) Questions and Answers : Windows : Dual Monitor Support? (Message 988595)
Posted 12 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Looking at his tasks I see:
Example A:

setiathome_CUDA: Found 2 CUDA device(s):
   Device 1 : GeForce GTX 285 
           totalGlobalMem = 1073741824 
           sharedMemPerBlock = 16384 
           regsPerBlock = 16384 
           warpSize = 32 
           memPitch = 262144 
           maxThreadsPerBlock = 512 
           clockRate = 1512000 
           totalConstMem = 65536 
           major = 1 
           minor = 3 
           textureAlignment = 256 
           deviceOverlap = 1 
           multiProcessorCount = 30 
   Device 2 : GeForce GTX 285 
           totalGlobalMem = 1073741824 
           sharedMemPerBlock = 16384 
           regsPerBlock = 16384 
           warpSize = 32 
           memPitch = 262144 
           maxThreadsPerBlock = 512 
           clockRate = 1512000 
           totalConstMem = 65536 
           major = 1 
           minor = 3 
           textureAlignment = 256 
           deviceOverlap = 1 
           multiProcessorCount = 30 
setiathome_CUDA: CUDA Device 1 specified, checking...
   Device 1: GeForce GTX 285 is okay

________________________________________

Example B:

setiathome_CUDA: Found 2 CUDA device(s):
   Device 1 : GeForce GTX 285 
           totalGlobalMem = 1073741824 
           sharedMemPerBlock = 16384 
           regsPerBlock = 16384 
           warpSize = 32 
           memPitch = 262144 
           maxThreadsPerBlock = 512 
           clockRate = 1512000 
           totalConstMem = 65536 
           major = 1 
           minor = 3 
           textureAlignment = 256 
           deviceOverlap = 1 
           multiProcessorCount = 30 
   Device 2 : GeForce GTX 285 
           totalGlobalMem = 1073741824 
           sharedMemPerBlock = 16384 
           regsPerBlock = 16384 
           warpSize = 32 
           memPitch = 262144 
           maxThreadsPerBlock = 512 
           clockRate = 1512000 
           totalConstMem = 65536 
           major = 1 
           minor = 3 
           textureAlignment = 256 
           deviceOverlap = 1 
           multiProcessorCount = 30 
setiathome_CUDA: CUDA Device 2 specified, checking...
   Device 2: GeForce GTX 285 is okay


So both GPUs are used
3379) Message boards : Number crunching : Crashing GPUs when coming in with Remote Desktop (Message 988574)
Posted 12 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
There are a few programs to get around this issue. I've tried UltraVNC (well pretty much all the flavors of VNC), but I find that LogMeIn works best. It's free for personal use; plus, you can access your computer(s) from anywhere in the world. You login using a web interface (addon for Firefox and I think it may use ActiveX for IE) and it uses RSA 2048 bit keys with AES256 for encryption.

https://secure.logmein.com/US/solutions/personal/


TeamViewer security:
http://www.teamviewer.com/products/security.aspx

"
Encryption

TeamViewer includes full encryption, based on RSA private-/public key exchange and AES (256 Bit) session encoding. This technology is based on the same standards as https/SSL and is considered completely safe by today's standards.

The key exchange also guarantees a full client-to-client data protection. This means that even our routing servers will not be able to read the data stream.
"


"from anywhere in the world":
The same for TeamViewer
(I connect from Bulgaria to my daughter's computer in London - the response time is ~ 1 sec)

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3380) Questions and Answers : Windows : Dual Monitor Support? (Message 988573)
Posted 12 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

And what do you expect/want to see on the second monitor?

You have 10 tasks running (8 CPU + 2 GPU) - do you want 10 monitors to show 10 screen savers?

There is no need for even single screen saver.

3381) Message boards : Number crunching : Crashing GPUs when coming in with Remote Desktop (Message 988540)
Posted 12 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You may also read:
CUDA and Remote Desktop
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=55653

Any version of BOINC can't crunch on GPU as Microsoft's Remote Desktop replaces the video driver with non-CUDA generic video driver.

Old versions of BOINC will in this case delete all of your CUDA tasks.
New versions of BOINC are just suspending CUDA computation.

I will recommend using
TeamViewer
http://www.teamviewer.com/

3382) Message boards : Number crunching : Possible bad processor and other issues. (Message 988535)
Posted 12 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Kill-A-Watt is the cheapest part of your problem.
If you have money to buy new > 1000 W PSU & UPS why not try new $20 Kill-A-Watt ?

"I have been a high end electronic technician for decades":
So you for sure checked with simple ohm-meter that the ground line of your Kill-A-Watt is OK

As you know if it is not connected you may have 1/2 of the line voltage measured on the computer case.

In Bulgaria I can feel it "by hand" (220 V / 2 = 110 V on the computer case).
I had the "chance" to experience this feeling touching the cases (simultaneously by both hands)
of two computers in public place where they give "Windows lessons for beginners"!
Obviously one of the computers had bad power cable with no connected ground.

3383) Message boards : Number crunching : Getting error in ReSchedule (Message 988114)
Posted 10 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

He means:

Menu Advanced -> Select computer... -> press [Enter]

3384) Questions and Answers : Getting started : What happens to my results when I upload them? (Message 987819)
Posted 9 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Try this links:

Unofficial BOINC Wiki!
http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Main_Page

__ BOINC Glossary
__ http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Category:BOINC_Glossary

____ Validation Process
____ http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Validation_Process

BOINC FAQ Service
http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/

SETI@home FAQ
http://setifaq.org/faq.html

How SETI@home works
http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/about_seti/about_seti_at_home_1.html
http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/about_seti/about_seti_at_home_2.html
........ [Continue]

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3385) Questions and Answers : Preferences : 8800gs & 8400gs (Message 987808)
Posted 9 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Read:

BOINC Not Using Both GPUs
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59329

I'm a little confused. WIN 7 recognizes ALL cores
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59371

The 30 Second Dummy Plug
http://www.overclock.net/overclock-net-folding-home-team/384733-30-second-dummy-plug.html

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3386) Message boards : Number crunching : Watts 'n watts (Message 987492)
Posted 8 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"switch mode power supplies (SMPS) range in efficiencies about 75% for a "bad one" to 95% for a good one":
Yes - it is like Ideal gas (theoretical approximation) vs Real gas

wikipedia article says:
"so the converters can theoretically operate with 100% efficiency"

Of course there will be losses as you pointed out as the elements are nor ideal and have resistance.
And efficiency of 80% (using SMPS) is much better than if a linear regulator was used for the above discussed GPU:

1.2 V / 12 V = 0.1 = 10% efficiency (if linear regulator was used)


About 15 years ago I had a mainboard (unstable Jamicon used with AMD K5) with linear regulator + two small 3x2x1 cm heatsinks
to power CPU by 3.52 V from 5 V line (only (5-3.5)/5 = 0.3 = 30% lower out-voltage) and the heatsinks become very hot.

3387) Message boards : Number crunching : Watts 'n watts (Message 987412)
Posted 8 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
You may find this links interesting:

VDDC Current ?
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=68526

Power Consumption of Contemporary Graphics Cards
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/gpu-power-consumption-2010_3.html#sect0

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3388) Questions and Answers : Web site : Credits (Message 987404)
Posted 8 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Look:
What are credits for?
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58291#960147
3389) Message boards : Number crunching : Watts 'n watts (Message 987402)
Posted 8 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
To convert from high to low Voltage modern computer circuits use:

Switched-mode power supply
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switching_power_supply

"
A linear regulator maintains the desired output voltage by dissipating excess power in ohmic losses (e.g., in a resistor or in the collector–emitter region of a pass transistor in its active mode).
A linear regulator regulates either output voltage or current by dissipating the excess electric power in the form of heat, and hence its maximum power efficiency is voltage-out/voltage-in since the volt difference is wasted.

In contrast, a switched-mode power supply regulates either output voltage or current by switching ideal storage elements, like inductors and capacitors, into and out of different electrical configurations.
Ideal switching elements (e.g., transistors operated outside of their active mode) have no resistance when "closed" and carry no current when "open", and so the converters can theoretically operate with 100% efficiency (i.e., all input power is delivered to the load;
no power is wasted as dissipated heat).
"

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3390) Message boards : Number crunching : Electric kibble.....happy kitties again. (Message 987400)
Posted 8 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Read the thread by SciManStev where he in detail explains the issue:

Possible bad processor and other issues
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59536

(It's hard to read though as he (SciManStev) has the habit to write everything in one big paragraph)

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3391) Message boards : Number crunching : Possible bad processor and other issues. (Message 987328)
Posted 7 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Something you Uninstalled recently?

Is the water flowing freely as before?

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3392) Message boards : Number crunching : Possible bad processor and other issues. (Message 987310)
Posted 7 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Something is definitly different this time. Where I used to be able to hold 4.2 GHz under full load, now I can only manage 3.8 GHz without driving my coolant, and core temps too high. The strange thing is my RAC is increasing at a rate I have never seen. I am sure now that 1/2 of my GTX 295 is really having problems. The amount of -1 errors is alarming. When I get home I will try to disable which ever half is failing. I don't know whether it was the new video driver or the new version of BOINC, but the crunching speed has shot through the roof! It's rising a hundred points every hour or two.


It can't be the new version of BOINC - the speed does not depend on it.

It can be:
1) the new video driver
2) CUDA 2.3 or 3.0 DLLs
3) optimized apps
4) overclocking

Maybe the heat from GPU warms CPU heatsink
Maybe the GPU is too hot

3393) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU load in different projects (Message 987276)
Posted 7 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So I noticed, just try again:
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk173/Fredericx51/SETI_CUDA-1April10.png

Two SETI CUDA WU's on G92's GPU(9800GTX+ & GTS250, WIN XP64; X9650@3415MHz)

But maybe better and give less server-load, to post a 'link', only.

Like this Same picture But a little bit bigger, will do better.
Should be OK ;-)
Grabbed the pic with PrintScreen, editted in PAINT and stored as *.PNG, JPeG, should be fine, also.


Again both are small (still using photobucket which AFAIK changes files).
Try very easy to use Ploader (no registration needed)
The size will be the same as the file you saved on your computer (Ploader do not change files).

No, .jpg is not good for program windows as the text become blurred.
PNG is (as you know) lossless (zip) compression.

"less server-load":
BIG picture will not load SETI servers, it will load photobucket or Ploader servers.

"editted in PAINT":
You mean only save or changing size?
Do not change size, please.


Here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59329&nowrap=true#986166
you can find how I do it:

"
Alt-PrintScreen (to copy the active window to clipboard)
start IrfanView
Ctrl-V
press S (for Save)
choose PNG format
type filename and save

go to Ploader site
Upload the .png file
Copy the last link #3

Paste the link here
Mark the entire link line
press the button Img
press the button Preview to see is it OK (you will see the .png image in the Preview)
"

It's about 1-3 minute work

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3394) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC Says it's crunching but the card says "not"! (Message 987249)
Posted 7 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Search all files (*.*) (including subfolders) in your BOINC data folder that contain the text 1299620963 to find out where is this number

Check also ReSchedule.ini in the ReSchedule folder

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3395) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU load in different projects (Message 987248)
Posted 7 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The pics are not readable (check clicking the links)

Better use IrfanView & Ploader
http://www.irfanview.com/
http://ploader.net/

Look
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59544&nowrap=true#987237

3396) Message boards : Number crunching : Possible bad processor and other issues. (Message 987245)
Posted 7 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thank you both! I will start experimenting when I get home. The Throttle and Real Temp applications are based on a junction temperature, which is settable. How would you know what to set it at? Is the default correct, or should there be some offset?


In the above link to thread "Temperature Monitoring Programs" read the post #2
Know your CPU - links to find the max parameters of your CPU

"Is the default correct":
ask the authors of the programs

3397) Questions and Answers : Windows : Temperature Monitoring Programs (Message 987243)
Posted 7 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Some of these programs (Core Temp, Real Temp, TThrottle) report only the internal CPU temperature measured by internal in-the-CPU-chip diode.

Other (EVEREST, SIV, SpeedFan) report both internal and external (measured by diode (located under the processor) and sensor chip (located on the motherboard)) CPU temperature.

Motherboard Monitor 5 reports only external CPU temperature.

This is why you can see different CPU temperature values.

Intel defines max internal (TJunc) temperature.
AMD defines max "CPU case" (measured at the centre-top of the CPU package) temperature.

3398) Message boards : Number crunching : Possible bad processor and other issues. (Message 987239)
Posted 7 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Look
Temperature Monitoring Programs
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292

Some (Core Temp, Real Temp, TThrottle) report only the internal CPU temperature measured by internal in-the-CPU-chip diode.

Other (EVEREST, SIV, SpeedFan) report both internal and external (measured by diode (located under the processor) and sensor chip (located on the motherboard)) CPU temperature.

This is why you see different CPU temperature values.

Intel defines max internal (TJunc) temperature.
AMD defines max "CPU case" (measured at the centre-top of the CPU package) temperature.

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3399) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU core clock- update (Message 987237)
Posted 7 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Better use IrfanView & Ploader
http://www.irfanview.com/
http://ploader.net/

They do not change the picture and letters are readable (in .png format) just as you see it on your screen.

Look examples in my posts:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59329&nowrap=true#986166
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59329&nowrap=true#983554
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54288&nowrap=true#973478

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3400) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GTX295 woes..... somebody help me get on track (Message 987080)
Posted 6 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So, I backed it down to 3.5ghz and enabled hyperthreading. Creates more heat.

I upgraded drivers and get the nvidia driver failure less. I actually only get the error when I'm doing stuff with google chrome while crunching. If I'm not doing background stuff no errors. Maybe it's a software thing messing it up? Or overloading the GPU's? I dunno. Either way I'm not worried about it. I had to add an A/C unit in my room because it was getting so hot, lol!


Only Google Chrome has this effect?
What about Opera, Firefox, IE, Safari?

Maybe it's Adobe Flash Player (YouTube videos, Flash games) involved?

3401) Message boards : Number crunching : Too many errors (Message 986935)
Posted 5 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It says

stderr out:
<core_client_version>5.10.20</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
CreateProcess() failed - The system cannot find the file specified. (0x2)
</message>
]]>
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1566259061

(Re)install Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.2
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9


And if you want to stay with particular generation of BOINC at least use the latest 5.x or 6.x build:
5.10.45
6.6.38
6.10.43

All BOINC versions:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/?C=M;O=A

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3402) Questions and Answers : Windows : Screen saver problem (Message 986931)
Posted 5 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Try to install the new recommended BOINC 6.10.43
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php

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3403) Message boards : Number crunching : nVIDIA driver 197.13 same speed like 190.x ? (Message 986925)
Posted 5 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Updated to 197.13 and fan speed is normal again. They seem faster than 195.62/Cuda2.3.

btw is there a program to test crunching speed?


Try
KWSN Knabench 1.81(Raistmer's modified Benchmark Package)
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;sa=dlview;id=236
3404) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : what the rac on cards, want to buy new1 (Message 986916)
Posted 5 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Read this
GeForce 200 Series
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_200_Series

"do i need big powersupply":
In the table there are Watts max consumed by every GPU, GFLOPS and many more spec

"when i put 2 cards in 1 pc will they both work on full speed ?":
Yes, why not?


"also does the manufacter makes much differenace ?":

I think Palit makes good designs
http://www.palit.biz/

Get a Sonic version (pre-overclocked), e.g.
PALIT GeForce® with CUDA GT 240 Sonic (1024MB GDDR5)
http://www.palit.biz/main/vgapro.php?id=1285





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3405) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : CUDA not running? (Message 986914)
Posted 5 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The new NVIDIA drivers 197.13+ use less GPU memory

Did you read:
GPU RAM: any ideas on how to free up a few MB?
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59276

My post in the above thread "If you install Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.2 ...... Requires 220 MB free Video RAM"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59276&nowrap=true#980666

3406) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD's (Message 986908)
Posted 5 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

They invented the term Mebibyte to avoid confusion but it is not widely used
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte

And to make things even more confusing (for some people)
The 700MB CD is (700 * 2^20) = 734 003 200 bytes
The 4.7GB DVD is (4.7 * 10^9) = 4 700 000 000 bytes

3407) Message boards : Number crunching : TOTAL CREDITS NOT SHOWING ON SCREENSAVER (Message 986894)
Posted 5 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Exit BOINC and start it again.
Then the screensaver will update the info.

Your credits in BOINC Manager are OK, aren't they?

P.S.
This is not so big an issue to name the thread with ALL CAPITAL LETTERS
For 10 years you have just 2 posts - is this the "biggest" error you noticed?

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3408) Message boards : Number crunching : Why all these ERRORS (Message 986881)
Posted 5 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


VLAR = Very Low Angle Range
WUs recorded when telescope is almost not moving through the sky and focused in one point
are (don't know why) very slow on GPU but compute easy on CPU

The Lunatics CUDA app aborts them so your GPU will not spend 6 hours on one WU
(and give you the same credit earned usually for minutes by GPU on "normal" WUs)

This tool can be used to move the VLAR WUs from GPU to CPU (rebrand them from 6.08 to 6.03 (and vice versa)):
ReSchedule 1.9 (my weird direct link)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59291

On CPU there is no slowdown for VLAR WUs and they compute at the same speed as "normal" WUs.

P.S.
Under the download links (in the second post) there are 4 links (Threads that discuss ReSchedule) - read at least the first.

Read also ReSchedule.txt found in the directory of ReSchedule 1.9

3409) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : CUDA not running? (Message 986768)
Posted 5 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
When you last rebooted your computer?
This may free GPU memory.

You can use GPU-Z to check how much GPU RAM is used/free.
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

"Use GPU while computer is in use: checked":
checked both on web site and in BOINC Manager preferences?

Try BOINC 6.10.43
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

Try NVIDIA driver 197.13 (faster than 196.21)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59520

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3410) Message boards : Number crunching : Mayday ! Mayday ! (Message 986760)
Posted 5 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Sometimes when electricity stops for a very short time (0.5-1 seconds) my computer go off but "thinks" that it is on.

I press the (soft)Power button but computer do not start.

So I press the (soft)Power button for 10 seconds (to "pretend" that I switch the computer off).

Then press the (soft)Power button shortly as usual and the computer starts.

3411) Message boards : Number crunching : Completed, validation inconclusive (Message 986756)
Posted 5 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Look here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=55816&nowrap=true#949845

John McLeod VII:
"The credit request is NOT what is being tested.
The underlying data in the result that is transferred up is what is being tested.
If this underlying data is different, the results are different.

S@H allows some slight amount of difference because of different processors,
but if it is too wide a difference, no credit is granted until a third result is returned,
at which point it is possible that all three, or the new result and one of the originals gets credit."

3412) Message boards : Number crunching : Trying to understand differences in machines (Message 986575)
Posted 4 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Well, I did all the suggestions to the Win 7 machine. Took me a while to find the HT bios option but changed it. Reinstalled the unified Lunitics drivers. How do I readily tell that they are running? The names look the same. CUDA looks good, as BOINC tells me as its starting up.
I usually do monitor Task Manager and get rid of a few things that start unwanted.
And it looks like RAC is in flight again. We'll see in a day or two.
If it works well on this machine, I'll go back to the other and make the changes to it.
Thanks all.
Alex


"The names look the same":
What are the names of the SETI apps shown in Windows Task Manager?

You can see the SETI apps .exe files in
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\

Did you use
Win64 Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.2
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;sa=dlview;id=206

Did you install (manually copy)
Cuda 2.3 DLLs
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;sa=dlview;id=208

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3413) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : CUDA not running? (Message 986572)
Posted 4 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What are the settings in the Activity menu?

Restart BOINC and post here the first 25-30 lines from Messages tab.

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3414) Message boards : Number crunching : Just for fun: Classic SETI in Action! (Message 986476)
Posted 4 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I managed to find Classic SETI work_unit.sah (work_unit.zip):
http://www.seti.nl/downloads/
http://www.seti.nl/downloads/work_unit.zip


I used WU2WAV to check that work_unit.sah is good Classic SETI WU (looking in the file it seem good)
http://gamma.nic.fi/~jknutar/wu2wav/
http://netti.nic.fi/~jknutar/wu2wav/

The work_unit.WAV was successfully created from work_unit.sah and sounds like static (noise).

( Look also the funny SIC@HOME - Search for incredible coincidence at home :)
http://gamma.nic.fi/~sic/
)


I put work_unit.sah to SETI@home directory, started SETI@home.exe but it wants to create/attach to account.

I think I need some (fake) user_info.sah so I searched and found this forum post #4
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=707092

type=user info
id=2849222
key=370829934
email_addr=
name=Baldy18
url=
country=
postal_code=
show_name=no
show_email=no
venue=0
register_time= 2451982.24109 (Tue Mar 13 17:47:10 2001)
last_wu_time= 0.00000
last_result_time= 2452291.60884 (Thu Jan 17 02:36:43 2002)
nwus=0
nresults=3920
total_cpu=138943676.904306
params_index=0


I created user_info.sah with the above contents but SETI@home.exe still wants to create/attach to account.

( This post is similar:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=45721&nowrap=true#729819
)

(Am I near the end of the road or am I on a wrong way?)

Do you know how to force SETI@home.exe to just start crunching and not attempt to attach to account?

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3415) Questions and Answers : Windows : Upgrading from XP to 7 (Message 986431)
Posted 4 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Or do it by force:

Make cc_config.xml file and put it in BOINC Data directory
<cc_config>
   <options>
      <ncpus>100</ncpus>
   </options>
</cc_config>

BOINC will start simultaneously 100 tasks as if 100 CPU cores exist.

You can try this just for fun to see what it will look like.
But it will not make the computations faster, it will make them slower.

3416) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Bugreport: boinc reported success but has failed (Message 986301)
Posted 3 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Absolutely normal - no error

SETI@Home Informational message -9 result_overflow

Means - the WU is considered too noisy if too many "signals" are found
and after max 30 "signals" of one kind is aborted by purpose/design
by SETI@Home app, not by BOINC

Credit is given for the effort (time, FLOPS) till abort
e.g. if the WU processing is discontinued after 77% -
then about 77% of the credit for the full to-the-end computation is given

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3417) Questions and Answers : Windows : Screen Saver Problem (Message 986237)
Posted 3 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Hello again, I have found the cause and solution to my problem.

As I said I have just replaced the motherboard. The previous motherboard and install was something like 4 years old and I could not remember some of the original windows XP settings, particularly the screen saver. All I could remember is that when my computer was unattended for a while the screen went completelty blank. It turns out this was a function of the monitor not the Windows-XP screen saver settings.

Not remembering this I entered "None" in the Windows-XP Screen Saver settings. The BOINC software did not like this and resulted in the screen lock up I described earlier.

When I set the Windows-XP Screen Saver settings to anything other that "None" everything works fine: there have been no lock ups and the monitor blanks the screen after its pre-set time.

I am happy now, thanks for your response.

Regards

Peter Green


Is it None or (None)?
BOINC has nothing to do with whatever Screen Saver you choose - BOINC does not check or use this setting.

Only if you choose BOINC Screen Saver from the list the boinc.scr file will be started by Windows - not by BOINC

If None do not work (due to unknown Windows fault) select Blank

3418) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GTX295 woes..... somebody help me get on track (Message 986230)
Posted 3 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What are the temperatures of the 2 (or 4) GPUs?

Check with GPU-Z
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

or EVEREST
http://www.lavalys.com/


Do you have random crashes of non-graphic programs?
Check all the fans in the computer.
Do you overclock CPU and RAM (timings)?

Look:
Temperature Monitoring Programs
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59292

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3419) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC Not Using Both GPUs (Message 986166)
Posted 2 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Sigh. Don't the smallest things just drive you crazy? I've made no progress on this despite deinstalling, editing registry items, deleteing, and just about giving up on running SETI on this laptop. Of all the crunchers, this old thing was the most reliable and least problematic.

My son suggest is suggesting a total reformat of the entire works. I hate that alternative but I am starting to see no other alternative. Everything says I have a happy pair of Geforce 8800M cards (including a long crunching history on them), except BOINC - regardless of the version (and I've run through nearly them all from .18 forward now).

Such is the life of technology. Perhaps there are spirits in the machine afterall.

Regards,


total reformat - do NOT do that - it is too much work (many, many programs to install and configure) and you will forget to copy/backup some of your files
- better just crunch on one GPU

BOINC says the GPU is:
NVIDIA GeForce 8700M GT (256MB) driver: 19562

Did you try 191.07 NVIDIA driver?
Did you try Video driver from the web site of the laptop manufacturer?
Did you try Video driver from the web site of the Video Card manufacturer?
Did you try Driver Sweeper from this post (to completely uninstall the current NVIDIA driver)?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59329&nowrap=true#983513

Did you try to turn
SLI - ON (try BOINC)
SLI - Off (try BOINC)
Did you try to turn PhysX ON/Off

Did you try to install BOINC 6.6.38


What did you try?

1) ...
2) ...
......


Everything says I have a happy pair of Geforce 8800M cards:

Which programs say this?

Post 2 screenshots from GPU-Z for both GPUs.
Post 2 screenshots from EVEREST for both GPUs as this:





Use IrfanView & Ploader
http://www.irfanview.com/
http://ploader.net/


Alt-PrintScreen (to copy the active window to clipboard)
start IrfanView
Ctrl-V
press S (for Save)
choose PNG format
type filename and save

go to Ploader site
Upload the .png file
Copy the last link #3

Paste the link here
Mark the entire link line
press the button Img
press the button Preview to see is it OK (you will see the .png image in the Preview)

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3420) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GTX295 woes..... somebody help me get on track (Message 985727)
Posted 1 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I didn't want to bring the whole "my win 7 system only sees 3/4 GPU" thing into this thread, it seems to be a non-fixable problem unless you're willing to go to win xp 64bit.


Look this:

I'm a little confused. WIN 7 recognizes ALL cores
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59371

3421) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GTX295 woes..... somebody help me get on track (Message 985726)
Posted 1 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Strange - sometimes it sees 3 GPUs

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1561318977

Is that my info? I actually have another gtx295 I was trying to get going. But with the second card I get errors, dont know why.



Yes - click on the above link to the result
then - click on Computer ID 5326435
and see: Owner johall

"But with the second card I get errors":
Maybe Power supply is not Powerful enough to Power 2 cards = 4 GPUs
Try another arrangement of power cables.
Or swap the slots (move card-1 to slot-2 and card-2 to slot-1)

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3422) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Additional PC's (Message 985709)
Posted 1 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have added 3 pc's that only run boinc at 100% and my stats are going down. What is up with that? Also I am having issues logging in saying that I do not have an account when I have been a member for several years. I was running classic for years before you switched and lost credit for it. Please check my account.

Thank You, Dan Jensen



1) On the HOME page there is a link (at left-middle):
Special instructions:
For SETI@home Classic participants

Click on that link to find out how to merge your current BOINC account with the Classic account.


2) How do you post here if you have "issues logging"??!
If you can post you are logged.


3) You added 3 pc's in the last 5 days - the credit for the completed WUs is still pending.

Read explanation of pending credit:
Work done and Credits at 0?
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58303&nowrap=true#960542

Also:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=55254&nowrap=true#929637

http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Pending_Credit


To see your Pending Credit:
Click ACCOUNT (at top-right)
Click Pending credit View (at the middle of the page)

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3423) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GTX295 woes..... somebody help me get on track (Message 985696)
Posted 1 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Strange - sometimes it sees 3 GPUs

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1561318977
setiathome_CUDA: Found 3 CUDA device(s):
   Device 1 : GeForce GTX 295 
           totalGlobalMem = 939524096 
           sharedMemPerBlock = 16384 
           regsPerBlock = 16384 
           warpSize = 32 
           memPitch = 262144 
           maxThreadsPerBlock = 512 
           clockRate = 1242000 
           totalConstMem = 65536 
           major = 1 
           minor = 3 
           textureAlignment = 256 
           deviceOverlap = 1 
           multiProcessorCount = 30 
   Device 2 : GeForce GTX 295 
           totalGlobalMem = 939524096 
           sharedMemPerBlock = 16384 
           regsPerBlock = 16384 
           warpSize = 32 
           memPitch = 262144 
           maxThreadsPerBlock = 512 
           clockRate = 1242000 
           totalConstMem = 65536 
           major = 1 
           minor = 3 
           textureAlignment = 256 
           deviceOverlap = 1 
           multiProcessorCount = 30 
   Device 3 : GeForce GTX 295 
           totalGlobalMem = 939524096 
           sharedMemPerBlock = 16384 
           regsPerBlock = 16384 
           warpSize = 32 
           memPitch = 262144 
           maxThreadsPerBlock = 512 
           clockRate = 1242000 
           totalConstMem = 65536 
           major = 1 
           minor = 3 
           textureAlignment = 256 
           deviceOverlap = 1 
           multiProcessorCount = 30 
setiathome_CUDA: CUDA Device 2 specified, checking...
   Device 2: GeForce GTX 295 is okay
SETI@home using CUDA accelerated device GeForce GTX 295
V12 modification by Raistmer 
Priority of worker thread rised successfully
Priority of process adjusted successfully
Total GPU memory 939524096	 free GPU memory 765194240
setiathome_enhanced 6.02 Visual Studio/Microsoft C++

Build features: Non-graphics	CUDA 	VLAR autokill enabled 	FFTW	USE_SSE	x86	
     CPUID: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU         860  @ 2.80GHz 

     Cache: L1=64K L2=256K

CPU features: FPU TSC PAE CMPXCHG8B APIC SYSENTER MTRR CMOV/CCMP MMX FXSAVE/FXRSTOR SSE SSE2 HT SSE3 
libboinc: 6.3.22

Work Unit Info:
...............
WU true angle range is :  2.623536
After app init: total GPU memory 939524096	 free GPU memory 671870976



And here it sees 1, 2, 3 GPUs restarting the same WU
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1561182931

__________________________


You can try ReSchedule 1.9 to move "slow" VLARs to the CPU (and not killing them)

ReSchedule 1.9 (my weird direct link)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59291

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3424) Message boards : Number crunching : Just the same old question, again ... (Message 985684)
Posted 1 Apr 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
...
I know NOTHING about ATI cards and don't know if it's worth putting-to-work or not. Is there any place for it in:

1) seti at home?
2) seti at home beta?
3) other BOINC apps?
4) others??

I guess I could search the net not knowing what I'm looking for, I just thought the folks here would know of a good "astronomy" related project to work the ATI card.

Any help??

Ed F


Yes, you could search - Forum threads found by Google [ATI SETI]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&domains=http%3A%2F%2Fsetiathome.berkeley.edu%2F&sitesearch=http%3A%2F%2Fsetiathome.berkeley.edu%2F&q=ati+seti&sitesearch=http%3A%2F%2Fsetiathome.berkeley.edu%2F&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

3425) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lost Seti@Home Account (Message 985291)
Posted 30 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Yay! I got it back. Took your advice and downoaded 6.03 snf it's working.

This is a Polywell computer with an Athlon processor. It has been very reliable and stable running 24/7/365 for the past 5 years. I'm afraid it's gonna giv up the ghost at any moment. I have replaced one power supply and several fans over the years. The main problem is when the Polywell guys partitioned the C: drive, they only made it 20 GB in size, not big enough to run all my stuff. The D: partition is 59GB.

I have an external Iomege 300 GB drive, but when I tried to do a backup, I can't open any of the files. I wish I were more computer-savy.

The special instructions for classic users say there is no account for my previous email address, which was sgaber@iglide.net. That company (iglide) is out of business, I think.

Hey, I just remembered my email address even before that one. I'll try it and see.

Thanks for your help.
Steve Gaber
Oldsmar, FL


Just don't install programs to
C:\Program Files\

And don't save documents, .MP3, .jpg, .AVI to
My Documents
My Pictures
...


Make (by hand):
D:\Programs.Steve
and install programs/games there

Make (by hand):
D:\Documents.Steve
and subfolders
Doc
Films
Music
Pic
...etc...

and move/download your stuff there
3426) Questions and Answers : Web site : Anonymous platform - verbose (Message 985285)
Posted 30 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You are not quite right.
Using BOINC 6.6.38 this is the beginning of
sched_request_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml
<scheduler_request>
    <authenticator>XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX</authenticator>
    <hostid>3412467</hostid>
    <rpc_seqno>11995</rpc_seqno>
    <core_client_major_version>6</core_client_major_version>
    <core_client_minor_version>6</core_client_minor_version>
    <core_client_release>38</core_client_release>
    <resource_share_fraction>1.000000</resource_share_fraction>
    <rrs_fraction>1.000000</rrs_fraction>
    <prrs_fraction>1.000000</prrs_fraction>
    <duration_correction_factor>1.838601</duration_correction_factor>
    <sandbox>0</sandbox>
    <work_req_seconds>0.000000</work_req_seconds>
    <cpu_req_secs>0.000000</cpu_req_secs>
    <cpu_req_instances>0</cpu_req_instances>
    <estimated_delay>0.000000</estimated_delay>
    <client_cap_plan_class>1</client_cap_plan_class>
    <platform_name>anonymous</platform_name>
    <app_versions>
<app_version>
    <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
    <version_num>528</version_num>
    <platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
    <avg_ncpus>1.000000</avg_ncpus>
    <max_ncpus>1.000000</max_ncpus>
    <flops>512540889.955969</flops>
</app_version>
    </app_versions> 


There is setiathome_enhanced 528 info
So this info exist and can be shown by change of web page code
3427) Questions and Answers : Web site : What Do Different Tasks Do? (Message 985280)
Posted 30 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
To see your computers here:
click on ACCOUNT (at top-right)

In the middle of the page:
Computers on this account View
(you can see more about your computers than anyone else, e.g. the IP address)

After clicking View there you will see the Tasks link (click on it)

To see the particular (Completed) task click on the leftmost link in the
first column (Task ID/Task name)


Or in BOINC Manager click button (at the left) [Your account] or [Your computers]

The pages opened by the "at the left" buttons are not "specific task pages" - they are Project specific

_____

On the home page here you can see (at the top):

ABOUT
About SETI@home
About Astropulse
Science newsletters
Technical news
Server status
Science status

("About Astropulse" is this "Astropulse FAQ" you already read)

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3428) Message boards : Number crunching : Just for fun: Classic SETI in Action! (Message 985278)
Posted 30 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you ever transfered WUs from one computer to another you may have something left on your "buffer" diskette, but of course it is hard to find after so many years ...
3429) Questions and Answers : Web site : Anonymous platform - verbose (Message 985277)
Posted 30 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

About a year ago what is now shown as Anonymous platform was shown in a "normal" way both for standard and opt. apps, e.g. 5.28
3430) Message boards : Number crunching : Crunching offline (Message 985270)
Posted 30 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The rule that Microsoft is enforcing says that a program and data cannot be in the same directory.

That makes it possible for OS to "protect" programs against modification (i.e. discourage viruses) and allow data files to change.

It doesn't matter if you agree with that or not, because newer versions of Windows enforce the rule -- which is hard if you have an old program that used a different standard.


It is true only for the default location
X:\Program Files\

If you make e.g.
C:\Programs.Vis
and install programs there the (old) program can write files (e.g. .ini) in the install directory and not use C:\ProgramData
3431) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lost Seti@Home Account (Message 985263)
Posted 30 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Even if you throw your computer in the ocean you will not lose your credits -
the credits are in your account on SETI servers.

As all of us can see you have now:
Total credit 247,207
Recent average credit 166.06



On a new computer/new HDD/new OS:
Install BOINC
Attach to your account using correct e-mail address (the one that is defined in your account no matter is it still valid or not)

You will see in BOINC Manager all of your credits


"When I changed to another ISP, I lost thousands of hours and W.U.s. Gone.":
Credits do not depend in any way by ISP - they do not vanish if you change ISP, town, country or even if you do not have computer at all.
Go to a friend's computer, start a browser, go to SETI@home site, enter your account - and you will see your credits


P.S.
You are using very old BOINC version 5.8.8
(Download new, Exit BOINC and just install the new - no need to uninstall; you will lose nothing)

If you want to stay on v5.xx get 5.10.45
or get 6.6.38, 6.10.18 or 6.10.43(beta)

All BOINC versions
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/?C=M;O=A

Some BOINC versions
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

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3432) Questions and Answers : Windows : Astropulse Work Units Erroring Out (Message 985252)
Posted 30 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I use the same ap_5.05r168_SSE3.exe installed by Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.2 on AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+ (Vista32) and it works OK

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1548196940
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1552275349
3433) Questions and Answers : Windows : Screen Saver Problem (Message 985250)
Posted 30 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

BOINC screen saver is just normal Windows screen saver -
you can disable it the same way as you usually do with any other screen saver.

Right-click on Desktop
select Properties ...
click on Screen Saver
choose (None)
click OK
3434) Questions and Answers : Web site : What Do Different Tasks Do? (Message 985224)
Posted 30 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What do you mean by "specific task pages"?

Your tasks are visible here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5342001&offset=0&show_names=1&state=0

And you can see them in Tasks tab of BOINC Manager (switch it to Advanced mode)

See also Astropulse FAQ:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ap_faq.php

On your CPU
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
an Astropulse task will take about 50-60 hours (just my "intuitive" guess)

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3435) Questions and Answers : Web site : Anonymous platform - verbose (Message 985220)
Posted 30 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Instead of just "Anonymous platform" (in "Application" column) can we have more specific info as e.g.:

Anonymous platform (MB 5.28)
Anonymous platform (MB 6.03)
Anonymous platform (MB 6.08)
Anonymous platform (MB 6.09)
Anonymous platform (AP 5.05)
3436) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : no work with gpu (Message 985215)
Posted 30 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

So you have no issue - everything looks normal:

3/29/2010 9:38:54 PM SETI@home Restarting task 08mr07ae.3462.23794.11.10.250_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 603
3/29/2010 9:38:54 PM SETI@home Restarting task 29mr07af.21445.14796.15.10.91_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 603
3/29/2010 9:38:54 PM SETI@home Restarting task 29mr07af.21746.13978.16.10.103_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 609

the version 603 tasks are for CPU
the version 609 tasks are for GPU

So it is obvious that you now (at the moment you copied this messages) have work for both CPU & GPU
3437) Message boards : Number crunching : Just for fun: Classic SETI in Action! (Message 985210)
Posted 30 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So you searched your disk for setiathome_win_ and found setiathome_win_3_08.exe

When you are in a mood for more searching try to find the files in the install directory.

By default the directory is
C:\Program Files\SETI@home\


The files:

SETI@home.exe
greendis.ico
header.bmp
setihom8.bmp
key.sah
work_unit.txt (for pre-v3.03 classic SETI@home)
work_unit.sah (for v3.03+, not in slots)
(and some more with common names like Release_Notes.txt)

I often use Total Commander to search for old forgotten files as it can search file names "hidden" in archives.

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3438) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Time in Berkeley (What the heck are they doing now?) (Message 985192)
Posted 30 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The link for Pacific time http://utc.php/ on the Weekly Outage message at home page is still broken and have to be corrected.

It has to be (?):
UTC: Coordinated Universal Time
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/utc.php/
3439) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : no work with gpu (Message 985182)
Posted 30 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It is hard to help people with computers hidden (you can "see" my computers by clicking on my "name" BilBg to the left of this post)


You did NOT done that:

On Projects tab, select SETI@home and press Update button
Copy and post here about 10 lines of messages after the line:
28-03-10 16:12:19 SETI@home update requested by user

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3440) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC Not Using Both GPUs (Message 985180)
Posted 29 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Do you have driver disk (CD, DVD) supplied with the laptop?
Try the video driver from that disk.

Can you find Video driver on the web site of laptop manufacturer?
Sometimes there are proprietary (non-standard) chips or hardware solutions on the laptops which prevent the generic drivers to work correctly.

So try to get the driver from the Video Card (or laptop) manufacturer and not from NVIDIA.


Programs you can use to find the exact manufacturer/model of the Video Card (and much more):

EVEREST
http://www.lavalys.com/

SIV 'System Information Viewer'
http://www.rh-software.com/

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3441) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC Not Using Both GPUs (Message 985173)
Posted 29 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Are you sure this laptop has 2 GPUs?
Or just one GPU with outputs for 2 monitors?
Is the second external monitor digital (DVI) or analog CRT (VGA, D-sub)

Digital Visual Interface
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface

VGA connector
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VGA_connector

3442) Message boards : Number crunching : Back to the well....Lunatics question (Message 984827)
Posted 28 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The Wu's don't get aborted, Boinc just deletes them, then they have to time out before they will be reissued.

Claggy


So the advice is: Select all "Ready to start" "SETI@home Enhanced v6.09 (cuda23)" and abort them manually before install of Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.2


Lunatics Windows Installer v0.35 will address this 6.09 -> 6.08 issue:
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?topic=842.0

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3443) Message boards : Number crunching : Back to the well....Lunatics question (Message 984815)
Posted 28 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Just a note to give well earned kudos to the Lunatics.

Smooth smooth smooth install (too easy as you can see above where I'm off expecting to get out a screwdriver and fix something only to find I'm made near redundant in the problem fixin' department!).

I'm in the midst of setting a new norm for one cruncher and draining the cache on another in preparation for seeing how well it exercises its crunching chops with the Lunatics craft.

Well done.

Regards


You "need" to drain the cache only if you have
SETI@home Enhanced v6.09 (cuda23)
WUs on that computer

If you install Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.2 the v6.09 WUs will be aborted (not really a big deal) after you restart BOINC
and new v6.08 CUDA WUs will be downloaded.

Upload & Report finished tasks, exit BOINC and install Lunatics' Unified Installer.
(Read the correction in the following posts)


You also can get CUDA 2.3 DLLs for ~30% faster compute on GPU:
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;sa=dlview;id=208

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3444) Questions and Answers : Windows : SETI@home (Message 984780)
Posted 28 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm a BOINC client newbie. How do I manually start the screensaver?


You can make Desktop shortcut:

Go to Windows directory
Find boinc.scr
Right-click on it
Send To -> Desktop

Now you have Desktop shortcut - rename it how you like e.g. BOINC Screen Saver

Double-click the shortcut when you want to start the Screen Saver.

(sometimes if you have some AutoDesk product (AutoCAD) installed this procedure will not work - ask for more help if it is the case)

_______

More options:
1) Right-click the shortcut
Select Properties
click in the "Shortcut key:" field
Press Ctrl+Alt+B
click OK

Now you can start BOINC Screen Saver by key combination Ctrl+Alt+B (not matter what program is on focus)

2) Hold Ctrl and drag the shortcut to Quick Launch area (next to the Start button)

Now you have copy of the shortcut in an easy to access place

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3445) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : no work with gpu (Message 984778)
Posted 28 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

On Projects tab, select SETI@home and press Update button

Copy and post here about 10 lines of messages after

28-03-10 16:12:19 SETI@home update requested by user


For how long you do not have a chance to get SETI@home WUs for the GPU?

You are attached to many projects - some of them may need the GPU at the moment.

3446) Questions and Answers : Getting started : disappearing tasks? (Message 984341)
Posted 27 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If you mean on the web site - yes, they are kept only for 24 hours after validation.

Some computers complete 100s or even 1000s of tasks per day -
the list can grow HUGE if they keep this info longer.

Look the top computer - it has 7900 tasks
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5257951
3447) Message boards : Number crunching : Back to the well....Lunatics question (Message 984315)
Posted 27 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You can use ReSchedule to move the VLAR (Very Low Angle Range) WUs from GPU to CPU

ReSchedule 1.9 (my weird direct link)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59291


And, yes - use CPU-Z on each of the computers to determine the CPU capabilities
(e.g. prefer to use SSSE3 (faster) than SSE3 if the CPU supports it)
http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

3448) Questions and Answers : Windows : How to set to background processing (Message 984256)
Posted 27 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
See this thread:

NEW Pref.: Suspend work if CPU usage is > XX %
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58787&nowrap=true



"Do work while computer is in use" is about "in use" by the user (user is moving the mouse and/or types on the keyboard)

"Suspend work if CPU usage is above XX %" is about "in use" by a program (e.g. AV scan starts automatically - no user at the computer)

I see usage for this preference to suspend GPU work (CUDA, CAL) in situations as watching DIVX movie or TV program
(user is NOT moving the mouse and/or typing on the keyboard for a long time but "uses" the computer)



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3449) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC Not Using Both GPUs (Message 983554)
Posted 25 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Do you keep both GPUs with monitors attached until the issue is solved?
Did the re-installed (older) NVIDIA driver had chance to "see" 2 monitors attached?

Can you post GPU-Z screenshots of both GPUs?


My integrated (no-CUDA) GPU:




I use IrfanView & Ploader (very easy to use)
http://ploader.net/

"Ploader is a quick image hosting service that allows you to upload, link and share your images with your friends, family, and clients. No account required."

I found that the name of the file given by Ploader is its MD5 checksum + .Ext
http://ploader.net/files/a7015ed144b9a792061af912d90e33bd.png
___ MD5 of this image is a7015ed144b9a792061af912d90e33bd

So if you forget the link you can generate MD5 checksum (I use Total Commander) and make the link "by hand"

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3450) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC Not Using Both GPUs (Message 983509)
Posted 25 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The only shot left in my locker:
- Stop all BOINC processing.
- Delete all Nvidia drivers (from Control Panel).
- Re-boot into SAFE mode.
- Run cc_cleaner to remove all traces of Nvidia drivers from Registry.
- Re-load chosen version of Nvidia drivers (I'm still with 191.07 and very happy there).

Hopefully, since you are on BOINC 6.10.43, this should not dump existing CUDA cache.

If it were mine and that didn't work, the box would be in severe danger of suffering GBH.

F.



It is CCleaner:
http://www.ccleaner.com/


Try also Enable/Disable of SLI & PhysX

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3451) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC Not Using Both GPUs (Message 983463)
Posted 25 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Try to remove
<ncpus>2</ncpus>

In the past BOINC counted CPUs+GPUs = ncpus
I don't know how it is now


Here:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration

it is:
<use_all_gpus>0|1</use_all_gpus>

(lowercase)
3452) Questions and Answers : Windows : What kinds of CPUs run BIONC? (Message 983452)
Posted 25 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Total number of CPU's: 4410 (differentiated by CPUID string)
http://boincstats.com/stats/host_cpu_stats.php?pr=bo&teamid=&st=0&or=2

3453) Message boards : Number crunching : Just for fun: Classic SETI in Action! (Message 983097)
Posted 24 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

After hard searching (many dead links - year 2000) I found Classic SETI -
SETI@Home Windows Client - Version 3.03 - December 2000 (setiathome_win_3_03.exe)

Direct link:
http://setiathome.free.fr/pub/setiathome_win_3_03.exe

Description
http://setiathome.free.fr/software/download.html
http://setiathome.free.fr/software/windows.html


Now I need work_unit.sah in the format from "old" times.
Somebody keep old backups? (on my computers I have some files (GIFs, Sokoban, PE2, ...) since early 1980's)

3454) Questions and Answers : Windows : ReSchedule 1.9 (my weird direct link) (Message 983048)
Posted 24 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Direct link (sometimes do not work - the site maintenance?):
http://atsplus.ru/boinc/ReSchedule1.9.rar



Threads that discuss ReSchedule:

Shameless Plug for Lunatics - ReSchedule 1.7 - 1.9
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54447

Any way to reschedule/rebrand from CPU to GPU?
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=56361

Manual 'branding' for stock Seti apps ?
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58673

Does anyone else with XP64 use rescheduler?
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58727
3455) Questions and Answers : Getting started : boinc client directory (Message 982976)
Posted 24 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
For setting BoincLogX look my answer here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=55127&nowrap=true#927634

You can find BoincLogX 1.52 & SetiMapView 6.54 here:
http://www.bjoernhenke.de/frame.htm?/boinclogx/index.en.htm

3456) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Time in Berkeley (What the heck are they doing now?) (Message 982742)
Posted 23 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
On the HOME page:

Weekly Outage
Every Tuesday morning (Pacific time) we have a 3-4 hour outage for database maintenance. The upload/download servers and some web pages are offline during this time. 17 Mar 2010 22:52:34 UTC


The link for (Pacific time) http://utc.php/ is broken and have to be corrected.
3457) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : CUDA in SLI = Computation Errors? (Message 982692)
Posted 23 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Remove the email address from the post (you have 1 hour to do that) or you will receive spam.

If you want email notification - edit community prefs & subscribe to thread.


Not "every" WU gives errors - some are "Completed and validated":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5326815&offset=0&show_names=0&state=3

Give us more info - how many GPUs, what type, which of them are in SLI
_____________________________

setiathome_CUDA: Found 2 CUDA device(s):
   Device 1 : GeForce 9800 GT 
           totalGlobalMem = 536870912 
           sharedMemPerBlock = 16384 
           regsPerBlock = 8192 
           warpSize = 32 
           memPitch = 262144 
           maxThreadsPerBlock = 512 
           clockRate = 1500000 
           totalConstMem = 65536 
           major = 1 
           minor = 1 
           textureAlignment = 256 
           deviceOverlap = 1 
           multiProcessorCount = 14 
   Device 2 : GeForce 8200 
           totalGlobalMem = 536870912 
           sharedMemPerBlock = 16384 
           regsPerBlock = 8192 
           warpSize = 32 
           memPitch = 262144 
           maxThreadsPerBlock = 512 
           clockRate = 1200000 
           totalConstMem = 65536 
           major = 1 
           minor = 1 
           textureAlignment = 256 
           deviceOverlap = 0 
           multiProcessorCount = 1 

_____________________________

setiathome_CUDA: Found 3 CUDA device(s):
   Device 1 : GeForce 9800 GT 
           totalGlobalMem = 536870912 
           sharedMemPerBlock = 16384 
           regsPerBlock = 8192 
           warpSize = 32 
           memPitch = 262144 
           maxThreadsPerBlock = 512 
           clockRate = 1500000 
           totalConstMem = 65536 
           major = 1 
           minor = 1 
           textureAlignment = 256 
           deviceOverlap = 1 
           multiProcessorCount = 14 
   Device 2 : nForce 980a/780a SLI 
           totalGlobalMem = 268435456 
           sharedMemPerBlock = 16384 
           regsPerBlock = 8192 
           warpSize = 32 
           memPitch = 262144 
           maxThreadsPerBlock = 512 
           clockRate = 1200000 
           totalConstMem = 65536 
           major = 1 
           minor = 1 
           textureAlignment = 256 
           deviceOverlap = 0 
           multiProcessorCount = 1 
   Device 3 : GeForce 9800 GT 
           totalGlobalMem = 536870912 
           sharedMemPerBlock = 16384 
           regsPerBlock = 8192 
           warpSize = 32 
           memPitch = 262144 
           maxThreadsPerBlock = 512 
           clockRate = 1500000 
           totalConstMem = 65536 
           major = 1 
           minor = 1 
           textureAlignment = 256 
           deviceOverlap = 1 
           multiProcessorCount = 14 

_____________________________


GeForce 9800 GT
GeForce 8200
nForce 980a/780a SLI
???
3458) Questions and Answers : Windows : Temperature Monitoring Programs (Message 981888)
Posted 21 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Know your CPU


Short info:

Maximum CPU temperature and maximum CPU power usage
http://www.heatsink-guide.com/content.php?content=maxtemp.shtml


Long info:

Processor Electrical Specifications (V, A, W, Maximum CPU temperature)
http://mysite.verizon.net/pchardwarelinks/elec.htm


Common page:

PC Hardware Links
http://mysite.verizon.net/pchardwarelinks/

3459) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU RAM: any ideas on how to free up a few MB? (Message 981557)
Posted 20 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Time estimate will become more and more accurate after each completed WU
as BOINC have to learn how fast are the new opt apps on your hardware.

On CPU they are usually 150% - 250% faster, on GPU - 105% - 120% (for the same CUDA version)

You can try CUDA 2.3 DLLs to see will they work on your GPU / Video RAM
(get them from Lunatics, keep the "old" 2.2 DLLs in case you have to revert)
As always Report before making changes.


P.S.
Sometimes ReSchedule do not work correct in auto mode

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3460) Questions and Answers : Windows : Temperature Monitoring Programs (Message 980698)
Posted 19 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

To check the Temperature of the CPU, GPU, MB, HDD you can use:

EVEREST
http://www.lavalys.com/

SIV 'System Information Viewer'
http://www.rh-software.com/

SpeedFan
http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php


Motherboard Monitor 5
http://majorgeeks.com/downloadget.php?id=311&file=9&evp=c230ac3b359a1981f1b0a9ee8fa4a983
for old motherboards



The following programs run only on newer CPUs (Intel Core & AMD64)

Core Temp
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
check/show in systray the Temperatures of the CPU Cores

Real Temp (Intel Core (and up) processors only)
http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/


TThrottle
http://www.efmer.eu/boinc/download.html
http://www.efmer.eu/boinc/tthrottle_manual.html
for automatic Temperature regulation

3461) Questions and Answers : Windows : ReSchedule 1.9 (my weird direct link) (Message 980676)
Posted 18 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I made direct link to
ReSchedule1.9.rar

Important:
Right-Click the link
Select "Save ..... As ..." (the exact words denoted by ..... depend on the browser you are using)
Rename eec1cb08adad2f2cda83463d3fced542.png to ReSchedule1.9.rar
Extract the files from ReSchedule1.9.rar
Exit BOINC
Run ReSchedule.exe (no install needed)

http://ploader.net/files/eec1cb08adad2f2cda83463d3fced542.png



(
NOTE: the file is (renamed by me to) .png to fool the ploader.net that it is a picture; they do not allow .rar

http://ploader.net/
is very easy to use for picture hosting (.png, .jpg, .gif) - no registration needed.
)
3462) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU RAM: any ideas on how to free up a few MB? (Message 980666)
Posted 18 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If you install
Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.2
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54288
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9

it will install CUDA 2.2 DLLs and use 6.08 opt app (with any NVIDIA driver > 185.85; 190.xx & 191.xx are faster than 195.xx)
Requires 220 MB free Video RAM

You will be able to use ReSchedule 1.9 to move the WUs from CPU to GPU and vice versa:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=59291


Important:
Upload and Report any completed CUDA work and exit BOINC before install -
all CUDA WUs branded 6.09 will be aborted (deleted) and new 6.08 WUs will be downloaded after you restart BOINC.

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3463) Message boards : Number crunching : Just for fun: Classic SETI in Action! (Message 980405)
Posted 18 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I did this (oscillation = 0) Looooong ago ....

But I want to see how the original really looked in action

No one keeps the old files (from before 2005)?
3464) Message boards : Number crunching : Just for fun: Classic SETI in Action! (Message 980400)
Posted 18 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I never had a chance to see the Classic SETI screen saver in action (only screen-shots - still images)

I wonder is there a place I can get the Classic screen saver + some test workunits to "boldly go and see what only the old participants had ever seen" :)

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3465) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Time in Berkeley (What the heck are they doing now?) (Message 980342)
Posted 18 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do you wonder "Why 'they' do not deal with 'our' problems NOW!"

It is good idea to check first what is the
Current local time in Berkeley:

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=791

3466) Questions and Answers : Windows : Transfers of results (Message 980337)
Posted 18 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I made direct link to
ReSchedule1.9.rar

Important:
Right-Click the link
Select "Save ..... As ..."
Rename eec1cb08adad2f2cda83463d3fced542.png to ReSchedule1.9.rar
Extract the files from ReSchedule1.9.rar
Exit BOINC
Run ReSchedule.exe (no install needed)

http://ploader.net/files/eec1cb08adad2f2cda83463d3fced542.png

(NOTE: the file is (renamed by me to) .png to fool the ploader.net that it is picture; they do not allow .rar)

3467) Questions and Answers : Windows : Only GPU running, CPU work remains as Ready to Start (Message 979363)
Posted 16 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

1) Did you check you have WUs of version 6.03

2) Did you check the NEW Preference:
Suspend work if CPU usage is > XX %
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58787
3468) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Hardware CPU/GPU upgrades, refresh profile (Message 975030)
Posted 1 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
GeForce GTS 250 is not considered "more powerful" as it is re-badged older GPU generation (== GeForce 9800).

This is why BOINC decided to use only GeForce GT 240 before you told it to
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>

See (the table):

GeForce 200 Series
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_200_Series

GeForce 9 Series
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_9_Series

Model			Year			Code name
GeForce GT 240		November 17, 2009	GT215
GeForce GTS 250		March 3, 2009		G92a/b


"
The GTS 250 is basically a 55nm G92b based 9800 GTX+ GPU on a new P361 PCB and internally Nvidia calls it D10P2. The differences are mainly on the power design; the core and memory speeds are identical to the 9800 GTX+ but power consumption has been lowered. However, not all GTS 250's have these improvements. Some of the earlier GTS 250's were merely rebranded 9800 GTX+ video cards.
"

P.S.
Why BOINC have no preference "Use all gpus" instead of forcing people to edit cc_config.xml ?

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3469) Questions and Answers : Windows : Server don't responding fow three days, why??? (Message 975023)
Posted 1 Mar 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Restart BOINC (and maybe Windows & Router/Modem/Switch/Hub),
Update manually (Projects tab -> select SETI@home -> press Update button)
and post here the first 30-35 lines from Messages tab.
3470) Questions and Answers : Windows : Upgrading from XP to 7 (Message 974095)
Posted 26 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I am about to upgrade from windows XP to windows 7, i have copied the c:\program files\all users\application data\boinc to a pen drive - do i just copy it back to the same location in windows 7?


Copy to any location you like and select this location as BOINC Data folder during install of BOINC

The default location on Vista & Win 7 is C:\ProgramData\BOINC

3471) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Other projects associated with Boinc (Message 973481)
Posted 23 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
but how do I upload an image from my computer?

The forums here don't have that capability, so you have to use an external site such as Photobucket, then link to it through there.

Also, preferably, not always post it as a picture. A link to the picture is better, just in case you prefer to see things in 2096x1536. ;-)


The easier to use is PLoader:
http://ploader.net/

Light and easy as Google ... ;)


"
Ploader - Quick Image Uploader
Ploader is a quick image hosting service that allows you to upload, link and share your images with your friends, family, and clients. No account required.
"
3472) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lunatics' Unified Installer (Optimized SETI) (Message 973478)
Posted 23 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Win32 Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.2
just reached Downloads: 7777

What a "little" nice happy number :)





http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;sa=dlview;id=203


Now we just wait for v0.3 ... ;)

3473) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems... (Message 973146)
Posted 22 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

And what will you do if you are at the lab?

Will you:

A) Restart this "nice big Cisco router"?

B) Check/replace the LAN cables between servers and the switch/router?
(I'm not sure of the configuration used)
Especially the cable to Bruno.
I suspect someone in the hurry stepped on or stumbled over the cable.
This will make the interconnection between the server and the router unstable (many errors and retries) which is not visible from outside I think.

C) Restart Bruno?

3474) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems... (Message 972804)
Posted 21 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Ping -t 208.68.243.254 (with 32 bytes of data) gives < 10% loss

How big is "the packet called 'RST'"?
"which seems to get through every time" = 100% of how many attempts?


P.S.
I have a LAN card which semi-burned after a lightning storm -
it continued to work but very slow! (many packets lost)

Can't the router burn-out this way?

.
3475) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems... (Message 972784)
Posted 21 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Does somebody know what/where the last 2 hops:

64.71.140.42
208.68.243.254

before the Upload/Download servers are?

The 64.71.140.42 pings OK, but
208.68.243.254 shows 30% loss of Pings:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58845&nowrap=true#972727

3476) Message boards : Technical News : Out of the fire and into the pit of sulfuric acid. (Feb 19, 2010) (Message 972727)
Posted 21 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

From Bulgaria (on Win98):


Ping -l 1000 -t 64.71.140.42

Pinging 64.71.140.42 with 1000 bytes of data:

.........
Reply from 64.71.140.42: bytes=1000 time=253ms TTL=244
Reply from 64.71.140.42: bytes=1000 time=252ms TTL=244
Reply from 64.71.140.42: bytes=1000 time=246ms TTL=244
Reply from 64.71.140.42: bytes=1000 time=245ms TTL=244
Reply from 64.71.140.42: bytes=1000 time=245ms TTL=244
Reply from 64.71.140.42: bytes=1000 time=245ms TTL=244
Reply from 64.71.140.42: bytes=1000 time=251ms TTL=244
.........

Ping statistics for 64.71.140.42:
Packets: Sent = 556, Received = 556, Lost = 0 (0% loss)

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 236ms, Maximum = 505ms, Average = 256ms

______________________________



Ping -l 1000 -t 208.68.243.254

Pinging 208.68.243.254 with 1000 bytes of data:

.........
Request timed out.
Reply from 208.68.243.254: bytes=1000 time=248ms TTL=243
Reply from 208.68.243.254: bytes=1000 time=249ms TTL=242
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Reply from 208.68.243.254: bytes=1000 time=249ms TTL=242
Reply from 208.68.243.254: bytes=1000 time=245ms TTL=242
Reply from 208.68.243.254: bytes=1000 time=249ms TTL=242
Reply from 208.68.243.254: bytes=1000 time=249ms TTL=242
Reply from 208.68.243.254: bytes=1000 time=250ms TTL=242
Reply from 208.68.243.254: bytes=1000 time=250ms TTL=242
Request timed out.
Reply from 208.68.243.254: bytes=1000 time=248ms TTL=242
Reply from 208.68.243.254: bytes=1000 time=249ms TTL=242
Request timed out.
Reply from 208.68.243.254: bytes=1000 time=252ms TTL=242
Reply from 208.68.243.254: bytes=1000 time=250ms TTL=242
Reply from 208.68.243.254: bytes=1000 time=246ms TTL=243
.........

Ping statistics for 208.68.243.254:
Packets: Sent = 158, Received = 110, Lost = 48 (30% loss)

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 244ms, Maximum = 448ms, Average = 178ms



As you can see the problem starts at 208.68.243.254

(and it is not "ISP blocking somehow SETI@home trafic" as Ping has nothing to do with "SETI@home trafic")

3477) Message boards : News : The connectivity problem noted yesterday turned out to be one of our switches and not the router. We swapped in a replacement switch today and connectivity was restored. (Message 972700)
Posted 21 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Everybody of old participants with one post in 10 years only ask,

Nobody reads!

The info here is about problem from Nov 2009 !


Read these:

Out of the fire and into the pit of sulfuric acid. (Feb 19, 2010)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58845

Panic Mode On (29) Server problems
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58830

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3478) Questions and Answers : Preferences : SETI@Home freezing my laptop (Message 972688)
Posted 21 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thanks for the reply and the info. I guess I just won't run SETI@Home on my laptop, although I seem to not have any trouble with Einstein@Home. BTW, I don't know how to check my laptop's temp --- is there an actual software way to do this or do I just put my hand by the fan exhaust?


For info on Maximum CPU temperature look:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58479&nowrap=true#970237

How to check the Temperature of the CPU look:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58757&nowrap=true#969863
3479) Questions and Answers : Windows : 'do network communication'? (Message 971229)
Posted 18 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
...partial uploads...
Wellllll Its been 3(ish) days and the 'partial' mentioned
has not completed.

Which brings me to current:
Next task has completed. Two now in upload/backoff.
Messages are mix of '...http error...' and
'...internet activity ok, servers may be down...'

best


I have 15 tasks (~3 days work) which are in upload state (they try to upload from time to time - the computer is left on its own)
but all of us know that this is server-side problem (overheating)

This will be fixed in 1-2 days and we will not miss the deadlines.

3480) Questions and Answers : Windows : 'do network communication'? (Message 971072)
Posted 18 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
...one at a time...
Understood (i think). Yes, one/core. Chose to let one run to completion,
then go off line for a couple hours, then...

If i knew upload would succeed, I'd wait, if i could
see it would be 'hours' to succeed? (Yeah:
micromanaging ...)

ping OK...]


If you use Dial-up:

1) You don't need to be On-line at the time of computations
-- From the "Activity" menu you can choose "Network activity suspended"
(If you get annoying reminders from BOINC - From menu "Advanced" -> Options set "Network reminder interval" to 0 (zero))

2) Once in a few days when you use Internet for other things (e.g. e-mail, write on forums)
Enable "Network activity" again - BOINC will send/get what it needs.

3) If Uploads/Reports/Downloads don't go in 10-20 minutes (and you finished Your work on the Internet)
don't wait - try again tomorrow.

4) Nothing will be lost if you choose "Network activity suspended"
in the middle of Upload/Download - they will continue after you permit "Network activity".
(
You can Download half file today and the rest - tomorrow - BOINC keeps partial files;
If something goes wrong (bad CRC) it will restart Upload/Download from the beginning
)
3481) Questions and Answers : Windows : 'do network communication'? (Message 971065)
Posted 18 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
...chose...
Wellll 8)>>

Thats when that work unit completed, backoff started.
Still in backoff 1930ish local/1630ish West Coast.

(Did GET a fresh task...)
best
dwp


There are people with 1000s of tasks on their (fast) computers.

Just set "Additional work buffer 10 days" (= 2-10 tasks for your computer)
and forget about "watching the uploads".

You just waste your time.
3482) Message boards : Number crunching : NEW Pref.: Suspend work if CPU usage is > XX % (Message 970676)
Posted 15 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Ageless:
David Anderson, Alpha email list wrote:
The major complaint about BOINC among new users is "it slows down my computer" (and typically they uninstall).
E.g. games don't play as fast, streaming video has glitches.

I think the default should be to eliminate slow-down as much as possible.

-- David



As we know this "slow down" occurs only if GPU (CUDA) is used.

So:
1) this preference have to be intended/used to stop only the GPU work
2) it has to be set (by default) to 25-75% only for new users
3) all "old" accounts which are still at (the default) 25% have to be changed to 0 (no restriction)
[those set to different value (NOT 25%) are set manually by the user and need no change]
3483) Message boards : Number crunching : NEW Pref.: Suspend work if CPU usage is > XX % (Message 970675)
Posted 15 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

And what is the point? With Boinc tasks all running at lowest priority, anything else a computer is likely to be doing should take over CPU usage anyway.


OzzFan:

Considering there's already an option of "Do work while computer is in use" that seems to compete with this option.

Not really sure what this was intended to do.


My only guess is so that BOINC does not compete with other low-priority apps that may need large amounts of power in spurts. Something like maybe an XBox media streaming box. Or maybe some server apps that only kick in once in a while. Video rendering could be another class of apps.

I can see a use for this option, but I think it competes too closely with "Do work while computer is in use".



"Do work while computer is in use" is about "in use" by the user (user is moving the mouse and/or types on the keyboard)

"Suspend work if CPU usage is above XX %" is about "in use" by a program (e.g. AV scan starts automatically - no user at the computer)

I see usage for this preference to suspend GPU work (CUDA, CAL) in situations as watching DIVX movie or TV program
(user is NOT moving the mouse and/or typing on the keyboard for a long time but "uses" the computer)
3484) Message boards : Number crunching : NEW Pref.: Suspend work if CPU usage is > XX % (Message 970674)
Posted 15 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
HAL9000:
25% does seem low to me, but considering the very large range of computers out there it is probably a good default. On a quad core or such system 25% is 1 core at full load. So in most cases I don't see 25% coming into effect most of the time. On a dual core system I wouldn't really want BOINC to stop processing the science apps just because I was doing something that maxed out 1 core.

It's a good feature, but I don't have a use for it at the moment so to 0 it goes.


This preference will not work this way.

My understanding is that if something outside BOINC uses e.g. 30% CPU
(AV scan in progress; you start Firefox; Almost any program at start will use > 25% CPU)
all the processing stops on all CPUs (cores) & on all GPUs (as if you choose "Snooze" from the tray icon).

After the CPU usage becomes < 25% the processing resumes.

This implies many stops/restarts of the WUs (big overhead especially on CUDA).
And if it occurs every minute the apps have no chance to checkpoint?

.
3485) Message boards : Number crunching : NEW Pref.: Suspend work if CPU usage is > XX % (Message 970481)
Posted 14 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If you use BOINC 6.10.32 you will be affected by the

new Computing preference:

Suspend work if CPU usage is above 25 %
0 means no restriction
Enforced by version 6.10.30+


The default of 25% is too low IMO and will make the apps to stop/restart very often which is time consuming overhead.

Most users will not know what happens or why.

The default have to be 0 (no restriction) or 80-90%

What do you think?
.
3486) Message boards : Number crunching : Can't change computing preferences (Message 970250)
Posted 13 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The 6.10.18 version for example have so many bugs .....

The version I used before, 6.2.19 had no bugs that I noticed whatsoever.

Sten-Arne


It is easy to go back - just install again 6.2.19 (or 6.4.7 or 6.6.38) - no need to uninstall the 6.10.18 first
3487) Message boards : Number crunching : Max temp for Athlon64 X2 5200+ ?? (Message 970237)
Posted 13 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Short info:

Maximum CPU temperature and maximum CPU power usage
http://www.heatsink-guide.com/content.php?content=maxtemp.shtml


Long info:

Processor Electrical Specifications
http://mysite.verizon.net/pchardwarelinks/elec.htm


Common page:

PC Hardware Links
http://mysite.verizon.net/pchardwarelinks/
3488) Questions and Answers : Windows : 6.10.18 GPU tasks freeze my screens (Message 970231)
Posted 13 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
little bit oif help.
system update from 6.10.17 to 6.10.18 after the setup removed old files,
dialogue box requires missing DLL. "setup cant complete"

DLL not found statment; "please insert disk"


Install again 6.10.17 -
then Install 6.10.18 immediately (no need to UnInstall)
3489) Message boards : News : We started sending out our annual year-end donation drive mass e-mail (Message 969899)
Posted 12 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Please pay attention to this post:

"There is an email coming to many Boinc users. A survey but they want your email and passwords.........":

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58731&nowrap=true#969799


Also:

http://climateprediction.net/board/viewtopic.php?f=15&p=87598&sid=f83f63817b4942da9993a08819bef22b

.
3490) Message boards : Number crunching : A Boinc CUDA scheduling error? (Message 969897)
Posted 12 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Do you use GPU-Z ?
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

3491) Message boards : Number crunching : A Boinc CUDA scheduling error? (Message 969886)
Posted 11 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

You mean 2 tasks running simultaneously on NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT (BOINC 6.10.18)?

If this is the case it's BOINC bug I think.

Try restarting BOINC
3492) Message boards : Number crunching : An experiment with < flops > (Message 969883)
Posted 11 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thanks ... I'll give tabs a shot next time


I see your tables very good aligned on Opera 10.10

Screen-shot:



3493) Questions and Answers : Windows : Processor ID is wrong - how does it affect? (Message 969877)
Posted 11 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thanks guys, i found flash card and updated BIOS
In fact i have Gigabyte GA-M55PLUS-S3G motherboard, looks like it only avaliable to update from flash card, CD or floppy
I didn't noticed any changes in perfomance, but now it will be easier to sell my old computer because of proper proc indicating.


Can you satisfy my curiosity of how (step-by-step) the BIOS update from flash card is done?

Why the file can't be on hard disk and be used e.g. after safe mode reboot?
3494) Questions and Answers : Windows : Screensaver and turn on questions... (Message 969863)
Posted 11 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... I think I'll also try letting it run while in use and see if my Wife and Daughter complain :-)


They will not - especially if you hide the icon in SysTray


I also need to clean my fans/filters to allow better cooling. I'm only letting it run 50% until I can get it cleaned out (very dusty house, computer's in the basement (finished basement) and we have dogs and cats so the fans clog up pretty quick)...
Paul Q


To check the Temperature of the CPU you can use:

EVEREST
http://www.lavalys.com/

SIV 'System Information Viewer'
http://www.rh-software.com/

SpeedFan
http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php


Edit: The following programs run only on newer CPUs (Intel Core2 & AMD64)

Use Core Temp

http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/

to check the Temperatures of the CPU Cores


Use TThrottle

http://www.efmer.eu/boinc/download.html
http://www.efmer.eu/boinc/tthrottle_manual.html

for automatic Temperature regulation
.
3495) Questions and Answers : Windows : Screensaver and turn on questions... (Message 969731)
Posted 11 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Even on my 500 MHz computer I do not feel any slowdown if BOINC/SETI run all the time - no need to set it to pause when "user is active".

Try to run some CPU benchmark (e.g. Everest benchmarks) - the results will be the same with SETI running or paused.


For direct run of BOINC Screen Saver I make a shortcut manually.

Under Windows folder search for:
boinc.scr
Right-click and "Send To > Desktop"
.
3496) Questions and Answers : Windows : Check it Out (Message 969703)
Posted 11 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:


They answered you many times - YES, your computer WILL do work for SETI@Home on your processor (CPU) AMD Sempron(tm) SI-42

only if you Stop doing this:

2/10/2010 8:58:51 PM|SETI@home|Resetting project
2/10/2010 8:58:52 PM|SETI@home|Detaching from project

(most people's computers do work only on CPU, it isn't imperative to do work on GPU=Graphics Card)

Resetting and Detaching from project deletes the work that your processor already started doing!

(
Now you act as if:
1) plant a flower
2) every hour get it from the ground to see is it planted OK
3) Go To 1
)

3497) Questions and Answers : Windows : Processor ID is wrong - how does it affect? (Message 969569)
Posted 10 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thanks, i have BIOS update for MB, but right now i dont have flash card to do it (in fact, i think it don't need, as we say "dont fix whats didnt broke"). Anyway at spring i will change my comp to a newer one. I restarted BOIC and it found all features, according to message list. Thanks for tip!


You don't need 'flash card' to update the BIOS -

If you see the word 'flash' in the BIOS description as in 'flash BIOS'
it is because the BIOS itself is in 'flash' memory (EEPROM) chip located on the motherboard.

On the other hand it is advisable for you to have UPS as if the electricity stops (or computer hangs)
during the BIOS update ('BIOS flash') (1-2 minutes) your motherboard will be 'dead'.
3498) Questions and Answers : Windows : 'do network communication'? (Message 969563)
Posted 10 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
[Yes: I run 'one task at a time' as far as downloads, as it suits me.
It would be 'nice' to see boinc/seti at least try for new tasks
when brought back on line. Sometimes they don't. 'do network...'
(or whatever its called this week) used to invoke a request for new
work, if nothing else was precluding.

In the snapshot above, i see it requesting work 'neatly'. On
occasion it just sat and waited for hours, comms up, doing nothing,
requests enabled, and not asking for work]


BOINC will do 'one task at a time' on one-core CPU even if you have 10 tasks 'Ready to start'

If you have Internet access only from time to time (e.g. once per 7 days) set in your local Preferences:

Additional work buffer 10 days

BOINC will get about 3-5 tasks for your 730MHz CPU (one task = 350 KB)
If you run the computer only 8 hours/day BOINC will get about 2-3 tasks.

BOINC 'knows' how fast your computer is and how long (% time) it is permitted to run.

On your computer one task runs maybe 2-4 days so (with the default WU cache of 1 day) BOINC will get new work only after your single task is 50-75% computed.
3499) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Trouble with CUDA (using lunatics apps) (Message 969428)
Posted 9 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
2/8/2010 10:25:07 PM log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task, benchmark_debug, coproc_debug

I don't know how many output it produces, but you can remove the benchmark_debug flag again, if you don't need it. I think BilBg only wanted you to use it to check if the cc_config.xml file is read by BOINC.

Gruß,
Gundolf


Once per 5 days it produces 8 lines of additional output (on one-core CPU):

06-Feb-2010 12:47:53 [---] Running CPU benchmarks
06-Feb-2010 12:47:53 [---] Suspending computation - running CPU benchmarks
06-Feb-2010 12:47:56 [---] [benchmark_debug] Starting floating-point benchmark
06-Feb-2010 12:48:05 [---] [benchmark_debug] Ended floating-point benchmark
06-Feb-2010 12:48:11 [---] [benchmark_debug] Starting integer benchmark
06-Feb-2010 12:48:20 [---] [benchmark_debug] Ended integer benchmark
06-Feb-2010 12:48:23 [---] [benchmark_debug] Ended benchmark
06-Feb-2010 12:48:25 [---] [benchmark_debug] CPU 0 has finished
06-Feb-2010 12:48:25 [---] [benchmark_debug] 1 out of 1 CPUs done
06-Feb-2010 12:48:25 [---] [benchmark_debug] CPU 0: fp 509761320.795311 int 2571749810.525930 intloops 13872000.000000 inttime 3.070002
06-Feb-2010 12:48:25 [---] Benchmark results:
06-Feb-2010 12:48:25 [---] Number of CPUs: 1
06-Feb-2010 12:48:25 [---] 510 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
06-Feb-2010 12:48:25 [---] 2572 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
06-Feb-2010 12:48:26 [---] Resuming computation
.
3500) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Trouble with CUDA (using lunatics apps) (Message 969424)
Posted 9 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Does analog vs DVI cable (I believe that's the name...) make any difference?


I think it doesn't matter -
both Analog & Digital use hardware circuitry to read Video RAM and send the contents outside.
They don't "use" ("eat") Video RAM


Digital Visual Interface (DVI)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface
3501) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Trouble with CUDA (using lunatics apps) (Message 969183)
Posted 8 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.....
Also installed the Beta BOINC version 6.10.32 so that I can use the <exclusive_gpu_app> flags for apps that may have been hitting my GPU RAM.
That flag is in my cc_config.xml which I have in my main BOINC directory (not data or S@H directory).

This has been working well for me for the last day or so. Of course, if you have any other suggestions, they're welcome:)

To re-iterate my settings, I'm running an LG L1933TR on analog on my NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT based graphics card (256MB RAM, Bios 60.84.51.00.01).
Res: 1280*1024, 32bit color, no desktop background, about 30 desktop icons.


cc_config.xml have to be in BOINC Data directory (unless they changed it in BOINC 6.10.32 to accept both places?!)

To check - put in cc_config.xml :
   <log_flags>
      <benchmark_debug>1</benchmark_debug>
   </log_flags>


Restart BOINC and if cc_config.xml is in right place (i.e. active) you will see:

05-Feb-2010 20:16:38 [---] Starting BOINC client version 6.10.32 for windows_intelx86
05-Feb-2010 20:16:38 [---] log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops, benchmark_debug


"Res: 1280*1024, 32bit color" - Both have effect on Video Memory usage
32bit/8 = 4 bytes/pixel, 1280*1024 = 1310720 pixels * 4 = 5242880 bytes/buffer = 5 MB/buffer (5 MB Video Memory used for Desktop)

It doesn't matter what picture is on screen (black screen or full-color picture) so:
"no desktop background" - have NO effect on Video Memory usage
"about 30 desktop icons" - have NO effect on Video Memory usage

.
3502) Questions and Answers : Getting started : HELP! Returning to BOINC Seti@home with NEW computer after 5-year absence (Message 968400)
Posted 5 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Read "Instructions for SETI@home Classic users"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic.php

Read "Installing the BOINC Client Software And Participating In A BOINC Powered Project"
http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Installing_the_BOINC_Client_Software_And_Participating_In_A_BOINC_Powered_Project


Download BOINC
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php

Install BOINC on your computer

Run BOINC Manager

"Attach to project" dialog will appear
(If it does not appear - Switch to advanced view and from the Tools menu choose Attach to project...)

Choose project (click on SETI@home)

Select "Existing user"
Enter your account e-mail and your account password

I think "this is it" for now - BOINC will take care to get, compute, send back and report completed work.


P.S.
1) Read the forums from time to time - you will probably want to ask the same questions which many other users have asked already
(use the search field at the top-left of this page or any of the forum pages)

2) The BOINC Screen Saver is "normal" Windows Screen Saver and is NOT needed for the computations.
If you have problems (hangs) with it - choose "Blank" or (none) in usual way you choose Screen Savers in Windows.
.
3503) Questions and Answers : Windows : Dispatch of the executed tasks (Message 968050)
Posted 4 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Simple answer:
BOINC will report the completed work automatically in about 24 hours (max) after completion.
(I see it already does report ~50 minutes after your post)


Простой ответ :
BOINC рапортует завершенную работу автоматически в течение 24 часов (макс.) после завершения задачи (workunit, WU).
(Я вижу это он уже сделал ~ 50 минут после твоего сообщения)
3504) Message boards : Number crunching : XML Question (Message 968044)
Posted 4 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I can see where the ignore_ati or ignore_CUDA would be handy if you were crunching both seti and say Collatz or MW and you only wanted your seti to crunch with the CUDA so you add the ignore_ati to your cc_config for SETI and you could add the ignore_CUDA to a CC_config for MW or Collatz


cc_config.xml is in BOINC Data directory and is global for BOINC, not project specific.

I think you can use ACCOUNT -> SETI@home preferences to set
		Use CPU		yes/no
Use NVIDIA GPU if present	yes/no
(enforced by 6.10+ clients)


Or you can use app_info.xml in every project directory to define which apps to use for the given project.
3505) Message boards : Number crunching : Manual 'branding' for stock Seti apps ? (Message 968042)
Posted 4 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

"Easy" direct link to ReSchedule 1.9

http://atsplus.ru/boinc/ReSchedule1.9.rar

3506) Message boards : Number crunching : Curious about AP (Message 967880)
Posted 3 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Well indeed the I7 is hours off every 5 mins, BUT if that the estimate and the deadline is.....then why schedule it .
And BOINC manager has gone for it, in that it is running it at 'High Priority' to make sure it gets done !

Off thread, but I also have 48hours of GPU work stacked up, but until the AP WU arrived nothing Q'd for the CPUs ... bit odd, unless it could see it coming !?


Just FYI:
"High Priority" - it does NOT mean the process (AP app) run in High CPU Priority (it still runs at low Priority as you can see in Windows Task Manager) -
"High Priority" means that this WorkUnit will be computed first in preference to other WUs
When in "High Priority" mode BOINC will not download new WUs

After finishing this AP WU your BOINC will learn how fast your CPU/APapp combination is and give more reasonable estimate in the future (e.g. 40 h).

If you install the optimized app you will see AP WUs complete in 10-15 h & estimate will go down to 20-25 h

If you want more work (for CPU & GPU) you can increase your WU cache:
(in ACCOUNT -> Computing preferences)
Maintain enough work for an additional 2 days
.
3507) Message boards : Number crunching : Curious about AP (Message 967876)
Posted 3 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
hiamps:
I gave up still haven't got any and still get the message to check my web settings...


My settings:

Run only the selected applications
SETI@home Enhanced: no
Astropulse: no
Astropulse v5: yes
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? yes


The messages:

03-02-10 12:12:31 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
03-02-10 12:12:31 SETI@home Requesting new tasks
03-02-10 12:12:37 SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
03-02-10 12:12:37 SETI@home Message from server: No work can be sent for the applications you have selected
03-02-10 12:12:37 SETI@home Message from server: No work is available for Astropulse v5
03-02-10 12:12:37 SETI@home Message from server: You have selected to receive work from other applications if no work is available for the applications you selected
03-02-10 12:12:37 SETI@home Message from server: Sending work from other applications
03-02-10 12:12:40 SETI@home Started download of 28se06aa.23988.81890.4.10.150
03-02-10 12:12:57 SETI@home Finished download of 28se06aa.23988.81890.4.10.150


As you can see I get MB tasks, I will get AP task if I am lucky (they are "rarities")
*
3508) Message boards : Number crunching : Curious about AP (Message 967869)
Posted 3 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Not sure I want AP 505, I have just got an AP WU with estimated elapse of 635 hours , with deadline of abot 620 hours !


Don't worry - on Your computers:
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 860 @ 2.80GHz
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9400 @ 2.66GHz

it can/will be finished in ~25 hours with standard app (~15 h with optimized app)
3509) Message boards : Number crunching : Need Help with a Graphics Card (Message 967864)
Posted 3 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... Shouldn't upgrades do everything the old did and more?


Try to get the new driver from the card manufacturer - not the generic nVidia driver -
it is possible that the card has some proprietary TV chip
3510) Message boards : Number crunching : CUDA card replacement then low credit (Message 967842)
Posted 3 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
NO - it is not calculated this way - very fast & very slow CPUs will claim the same credit

And the CPU benchmark can be VERY inaccurate if at the same time CPU is busy (e.g. you are compressing a big file with WinRAR)
(the benchmark result is not used for credit calculation on SETI)

The same computer which can do one 100_credit_WU per hour if idle (e.g. at night)
will need 3-5 hours if used heavily (e.g. flash game)
(the benchmark is the same for 5 days)

If credit = benchmark * time (NOT true) then for the same WU "game_time" claim will be 300-500

And Optimized Apps (which compute a WU in half the time on the same CPU) will claim 50
.
3511) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Where to download standard cuda application and modify app_info (Message 967806)
Posted 3 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
That's what I'll do, but first I will drain the cache (1+1 days) by setting NNT and let it finish all WU's. Maybe the temps would stay down if I could somehow get hold on the older cuda 2.2 version of the science application (6.08?).


Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.2 installs CUDA 2.2 .DLLs
For CUDA 2.3 .DLLs - you have to copy them manually (Stop BOINC/SETI first)
3512) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Where to download standard cuda application and modify app_info (Message 967680)
Posted 2 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I don't think the GPU temp will be any lower with standard SETI cuda application.

If you want to get it & try it:

1) Report the completed work (in Projects tab: select/highlight SETI@home and press the Update button)

2) Reset the Project - this will delete the app_info.xml and optimized applications and all remaining WUs; It will download the standard apps for CPU & GPU

3) After your GPU starts the first "standard" WU:
- check the GPU temp
- now you have the standard SETI cuda application - copy the files (.exe & .dll) to another folder for later use


When you later install again Lunatics' Unified Installer:

1) Report the completed work
2) exit BOINC
3) - just select to not use CUDA (so you don't have to manually edit the app_info.xml)
- or (if you plan to use standard SETI cuda application) select to use CUDA
and then edit the app_info.xml to change (everywhere) the name of the opt CUDA .exe to the standard app name and copy back the standard CUDA application files.

.
3513) Questions and Answers : Web site : Tasks Suspended (Message 967678)
Posted 2 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
For several days now my completed tasks have been "statused" "ready to report." There are no current news about the SETI server. Is the problem with my system some how?

Dale


Did you try manual Update?

In the advanced view of BOINC manager:
in Projects tab
select/highlight SETI@home
Press the Update button


In Messages tab - is there a message somewhere:
..... Suspending network activity - ...?

.
3514) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Issues with downloading projects in general (Message 967417)
Posted 1 Feb 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Wow, a lot has changed since classic version (ran it back in 2002, haven't since around '03 or '04. Keep getting the same error messages no matter how much i play with the preferences.

31/01/2010 10:42:48 AM SETI@home Message from server: No work sent
31/01/2010 10:42:48 AM SETI@home Message from server: Your NVIDIA GPU has insufficient memory (need 384MB)
31/01/2010 10:42:48 AM SETI@home Message from server: SETI@home Enhanced needs 32.00MB more disk space. You currently have 0.00 MB available and it needs 32.00 MB.

Why it's requiring 384MB when the site says a 256 will do I'm not sure, and as for the disk space... i have 70 gigs free on the disk so why it's confused that i don't have enough space is unclear too. Anyone have a clue whats going on with this thing?


Local preferences set in BOINC Manager -> Advanced -> Preferences
override the web ACCOUNT > Computing preferences.

Try setting both to:

Disk and memory usage
	Use at most	5 GB disk space
	Leave at least	0.1 GB disk space free
	Use at most	10% of total disk space

3515) Message boards : Number crunching : app_info, this look right???? (Message 966658)
Posted 29 Jan 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I lost some WU's using the installer on my son's PC, not sure I totally trust it yet.... :D


You only lose the 6.09 CUDA WU's as the Lunatics Installer v0.2 puts in app_info.xml v6.08 for CUDA.
3516) Message boards : Technical News : Deluge (Jan 27 2010) (Message 966379)
Posted 28 Jan 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

..... I can safely say the rumors that SATA drives fail frequently are true. ...
- Matt


You mean all brands of SATA drives?!

Or are they just Western Digital?
What brand/model/capacity?

I don't think Seagate will "fail frequently".
3517) Message boards : Number crunching : Optimizing my PC for SETI (Message 966364)
Posted 28 Jan 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Direct link to
Win32 Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.2
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;sa=dlview;id=203

or
Win64 Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.2
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;sa=dlview;id=206

Click on [Mirror 1] to get it.

Look also:
Lunatics' Unified Installer (Optimized SETI)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54288
.
3518) Message boards : Number crunching : Development BOINC 6.10.29 released (Message 966150)
Posted 27 Jan 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Still running the .29 had it set to no new tasks for a few days after the last round of shorties. Set it to connect every 3 days in manager but as of this morning I have 4999 Tasks and 1.91 GB of work. This time round the downloads came in smaller spurts and the manager hasn't really shown any problems other than the the occasional two units running on GPU 0.


So now you have 3 + 5 = 8 days cache

(Computer is connected to the Internet about every 3 days + Maintain enough work for an additional 5 days)

.

That Boinc Preferences always gets me. So I need to set the manager to 1 day and account settings to 2?

EDIT: See if those changes help, now have 1.93GB with just a couple waiting and everything esle going pretty smoothly. Not really having any lagging but did replace my GTX260 with a GTX285.


Account settings doesn't matter if you set the Preferences locally (in the manager)

You can have 20 days cache if you set (in the manager):
Connect about every 10 days
Additional work buffer 10 days

This is equivalent to web Account settings:
Computer is connected to the Internet about every 10 days
Maintain enough work for an additional 10 days

Think of the cache as a sum of the two.
3519) Message boards : Number crunching : Development BOINC 6.10.29 released (Message 966107)
Posted 27 Jan 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Still running the .29 had it set to no new tasks for a few days after the last round of shorties. Set it to connect every 3 days in manager but as of this morning I have 4999 Tasks and 1.91 GB of work. This time round the downloads came in smaller spurts and the manager hasn't really shown any problems other than the the occasional two units running on GPU 0.


So now you have 3 + 5 = 8 days cache

(Computer is connected to the Internet about every 3 days + Maintain enough work for an additional 5 days)

.
3520) Message boards : Number crunching : App 2.4V faster than AK_v8 or am I doing something wrong? (Message 964769)
Posted 20 Jan 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I wonder how your app_info.xml look now?
Did you edit it to include <version_num>603</version_num> and is this correct for 2.4V app?

P.S.
If you post your app_info.xml contents it will be good to use
[pre]
...
[/pre]
tags to retain formating, e.g.:
<app_info>

    <app>
        <name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
    </app>

    <file_info>
        <name>KWSN_2.4V_MMX_MB_GFX.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>

    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>517</version_num>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>KWSN_2.4V_MMX_MB_GFX.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>

    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>527</version_num>
        <file_ref>
           <file_name>KWSN_2.4V_MMX_MB_GFX.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>

    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>528</version_num>
        <file_ref>
           <file_name>KWSN_2.4V_MMX_MB_GFX.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>

</app_info>

.
3521) Message boards : Number crunching : App 2.4V faster than AK_v8 or am I doing something wrong? (Message 964733)
Posted 20 Jan 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

There is also version with screen saver graphics:

http://calbe.dw70.de/2.4V/2.4V_Windows_x32_SSE_FFTW_GFX.zip

P.S.
To avoid confusion -
The 2.4V SSE FFTW version is the fastest for (older) AMD SSE capable CPUs - NOT for (newer) AMD SSE3 capable CPUs

3522) Message boards : Number crunching : Max temp for Athlon64 X2 5200+ ?? (Message 964723)
Posted 20 Jan 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Strange, you see the Core temps on your Athlon64 X2 5400+..
CoreTemp don't show the Cores of my AMD Phenom II X4 940 BE. It show only the CPU temp.

Which prog I should let run to measure the CPU-Core temps?

A small prog for the system tray, and the icon show the temps of all Cores like it do it here on my other PC with CoreTemp.


CoreTemp shows all cores temps in the system tray (multiple icons, e.g.: 52 54 49 51)
or only the core with the highest temp at the moment (one icon, e.g.: 54) depending on the settings.

Check your settings.


P.S.
CoreTemp can't show the external CPU temp as it can't read the motherboard sensors.
It can only read the internal CPU diode sensors.

.
3523) Questions and Answers : Web site : Digital SIgnal Processing (Message 964565)
Posted 19 Jan 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I hope you are not confusing BOINC and SETI@Home :
BOINC does not do scientific computations (you will not find FFT in its source);
SETI@Home application does.

You may find this links informative:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SETI@Home
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_glossary.php
http://www.boinc-wiki.info/SETI@Home

3524) Message boards : Number crunching : Development BOINC 6.10.29 released (Message 964469)
Posted 18 Jan 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
3 different times so far Boinc has let 2 units run on one video card while the other sat waiting.


Post your cc_config.xml contents - maybe some setting as <ncpus>, <no_gpus>, <use_all_gpus>, <ignore_cuda_dev> ... is the cause?


For diagnosing it can help if you add:

   <log_flags>
      <coproc_debug>1</coproc_debug>
   </log_flags>


and look at the messages after this happens again

.
3525) Message boards : Number crunching : Is this a computer error or Boinc? (Message 964265)
Posted 18 Jan 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
OH OK I think I know what happened...Bummer. I opened cc_config and was going to add the flags but no one ever responded if what I had was correct and I left it open and didn't realize until I just restarted my computer and it asked if I wanted to save the file....Bummer.


Notepad do not lock files; what editor do you use - Word?!
3526) Questions and Answers : Getting started : old account work credits (Message 963395)
Posted 15 Jan 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Can't you just try every email you have/had?


That's the thing, I feel like I have tried every email address I've ever had, except a few random work emails. The problem is that I've literally gone through hundreds of email accounts over the years, and despite being fairly sure that I knew what address this was under, I can't seem to get it right. I guess I'll just have to accept that only I will know that I was around back in 1999 :/


If you are "fairly sure what address this was under"
do know that here at SETI@home CasE MATTers for the account email -

so e.g.:
skyzefawlun@yaahhhooo0.com
Skyzefawlun@yaahhhooo0.com
SkyzeFawLun@yaahhhooo0.com
SkyzeFawLun@Yaahhhooo0.Com

are considered different - try every combination you can think of.

.
3527) Questions and Answers : Getting started : old account work credits (Message 962914)
Posted 13 Jan 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
The link provided requires you to enter the email address associated with the classic account, which I don't have. The page his link leads to has a section for those who no longer have access to their previous email accounts which then takes you to the claim page which prompts you to enter the classic account's email address, not just the user name.

The question I was asking was is there anyway to see what email address is associated with that old account?


Can't you just try every email you have/had?
3528) Questions and Answers : Windows : Confused about merging computers. (Message 962909)
Posted 13 Jan 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Actually, sometimes even tho the computer is exactly the same except for the OS, you won't be able to merge them. I recently upgraded my wife's computer from WinXP SP2 to PCLinuxOS, and I am unable to merge the 2 systems. Nothing changed in them except for the OS.


And what is the error message? (I'm just curious)

After the error message click:
Show details
and copy the info - e.g. mine:

Host 3815859 has overlapping lifetime (30 May 2007 - 8 Jan 2010), (19 Sep 2007 - 18 Sep 2009)
Host 4832843 has overlapping lifetime (30 May 2007 - 8 Jan 2010), (8 Mar 2009 - 13 Jan 2010)
No hosts are eligible for merging with this one.


(but it is OK for me - these are different computers)


Maybe Win & Linux are considered too different - I'm not sure.

On every of the 2 "computers" (representing the same physical computer) try:
go to the computer Details and at the bottom of page click Merge this computer

Or maybe you have to wait until the 10 Tasks still assigned to the "old computer" Time out and you see: "Tasks 0"


P.S.
You use "strange" version of BOINC 6.6.9 on the "new" (Linux) computer -
why not 6.6.41 or 6.10.17 ?

.
3529) Message boards : Number crunching : Preferences (Message 962639)
Posted 11 Jan 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
NOD32 Antivirus do not run any auto-scheduled full scans.

It relies exclusively on real-time scan.
Occasionally I do scan (through the context menu) a single file or folder I suspect (cracks, keygens, ...)
But the same scan is done automatically on events of copy, create, uncompress,
open, ... any file (and it is fast - barely noticed on even slow 500 MHz CPU).
(I love NOD32)

http://www.eset.com/
http://www.eset.com/download/index.php

Compare Antivirus Software:
http://www.eset.com/products/compare-NOD32-vs-competition.php


( IMHO:
The full scans that Symantec and BitDefender do (by default) are annoying.
Avast & AVG are slow.
And they all very often give (false)-positive warnings on harmless keygens and cracks.
)

.
3530) Message boards : Number crunching : Is this a Signal?? (Message 962633)
Posted 11 Jan 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I have made a Screenshot from this Seti WU.
can this be a signal? or it`s just normal?

greetings

Swiss Seti
http://www.conzo.ch/seti%20signal.htm


/\
||

WOW ! :)


Not wow. -9 means there are lots of signals. Probably from a very nearby terrestrial source.



I'm sure [AF>france>pas-de-calais]symaski62 is joking ...

3531) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Trouble with CUDA (using lunatics apps) (Message 962406)
Posted 10 Jan 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:

And I think you are using CUDA 2.2 DLLs :


ModLoad: 10000000 00048000 N:\Applications\BOINC\data\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\cudart.dll (6.14.11.2020) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
Linked PDB Filename :
File Version : 6,14,11,2020
Company Name : NVIDIA Corporation
Product Name : NVIDIA CUDA 2.2 Runtime
Product Version : 6,14,11,2020

ModLoad: 00850000 00124000 N:\Applications\BOINC\data\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\cufft.dll (6.14.11.2020) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
Linked PDB Filename :
File Version : 6,14,11,2020
Company Name : NVIDIA Corporation
Product Name : NVIDIA CUDA 2.2 FFT Library
Product Version : 6,14,11,2020

3532) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Trouble with CUDA (using lunatics apps) (Message 962395)
Posted 10 Jan 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
To diagnose the problem it will be helpful to post the first 25-30 lines from Messages tab of BOINC Manager ...

But I think you have too little Video RAM (255MB)

After app init: total GPU memory 268107776 free GPU memory 132043008
Cuda error 'cudaMalloc((void**) &dev_GaussFitResults' in file 'd:/BoincSeti_Prog/sinbad_repositories/LunaticsUnited/SETI_CUDA_MB_exp/client/cuda/cudaAcceleration.cu' in line 317 : out of memory.
setiathome_CUDA: CUDA runtime ERROR in device memory allocation (Step 1 of 3). Falling back to HOST CPU processing...

See this:



It says "CUDA requires ... 220 MiB AVAILABLE Video RAM"
and you have 132 MB (= 126 MiB)

MB & MiB :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte

.
3533) Questions and Answers : Preferences : another screen saver question... (Message 962387)
Posted 10 Jan 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Thanks for the links guys! That covers all my issues!

If seti@home.scr impedes WU processing, does it not stand to reason that the same holds true for the Einstein.scr?


In your SETI@home preferences:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

you can set
Maximum CPU % for graphics (mine is set to 10)


Also set the BOINC ScreenSaver to go blank after 5 minutes -
if you like to look at it and forget to close it (move the mouse)
it will go to black screen after 5 minutes.

(You don't need to run the BOINC ScreenSaver to make the computations)

.
3534) Questions and Answers : Preferences : another screen saver question... (Message 962284)
Posted 9 Jan 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If you "used to run the classic version" you can "Claim your SETI@home Classic workunits".
If you do so you will be shown as SETI@home participant since "old" times (since somewhere between 1999-2006 and not 2010)

Look the links:

Instructions for SETI@home Classic users:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic.php

Claim your SETI@home Classic workunits:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php

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3535) Questions and Answers : Preferences : another screen saver question... (Message 961832)
Posted 8 Jan 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Look at these links:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_graphics.php

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=55061#926459
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=40854#602629
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=16318#129586

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=25992#220469
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54991#925265
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=6774#47969

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=46338#736699
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=156#752
3536) Questions and Answers : Windows : Just found out BOINC, using advanced install option, it is in a WRONG diectory, so no install or repair is possible. (Message 960643)
Posted 3 Jan 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Hi, thanks Jord, John McLeod VII and BilBg, for your additional answers.

The only time I DID choose a 'normal' install route . . . .
Found 5 'instances' of BOINC.
Usually, since all hosts have 2 drives, I choose C:\BOINC and D:\Program Files\BOINC.

First, I've set N.N.T. for all project, on the 'troubled host'.


You don't give us enough information - "5 'instances' of BOINC" (on the disk, NOT in memory) are harmless,
but where (on the disk) is your really working BOINC?

Do the simple steps in my post above and post (paste) here:

1) BOINC Program directory (Copy from the shortcut Properties)
2) BOINC Data directory (Copy from the Messages tab)
3) Are the same directories listed in the registry?

3537) Questions and Answers : Web site : site admin access (Message 960633)
Posted 3 Jan 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
OK, it is to late now, but next time we should answer in the fist post language.

[Pedantic]We'd better type correct English then.

to = к
too = тоже
[/Pedantic]


"it is too late now" translates to
"сейчас это слишком поздно"

"сейчас это слишком поздно" translates to
"now it's too late"

("тоже" usually means "also")
3538) Questions and Answers : Web site : site admin access (Message 960623)
Posted 3 Jan 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Python, ты все понял? Или нам надо писать по русски?
Python, did you understand everything? Or we have to write in russian?
3539) Questions and Answers : Web site : How do you manage your Seti@Home? (Message 960504)
Posted 3 Jan 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm not really sure how I got my managing console working and somehow it got deleted. Now I can't get the screen saver, manage Seti's data usage, or anything! I really don't know anything because I'm a BIG newbie.


You do not "work" for SETI since 16 Sep 2009 (this is the last time your computer contacted SETI servers)

The easiest way is to install BOINC again.

3540) Questions and Answers : Windows : Just found out BOINC, using advanced install option, it is in a WRONG diectory, so no install or repair is possible. (Message 960489)
Posted 3 Jan 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
[ADDED]By the way, it has not even a DIR, it's in
C:\Documents and Settings\boinc.dll ; \boinc.exe ; etc.
?! :(

Strangest mistake, I (ever) made . . .


If you see boinc.dll ; boinc.exe
this is NOT the BOINC Data directory - this is BOINC Program directory.

BOINC installs in 2 directories - both are called BOINC by default:
C:\Program Files\BOINC - is BOINC Program directory by default
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC - is BOINC Data directory by default on Win XP
C:\ProgramData\BOINC - is BOINC Data directory by default on Win Vista & Win 7

(You can choose (during installation) where they are and how to name them, e.g.
C:\BOINC_Pr
C:\BOINC_Data
will be fine (as any other valid directory names (in writable location for the Data directory))

I prefer to change/choose for the Data directory more descriptive name as:
BOINC_Data
BOINC-Data
BOINC Data
)


To find out the real locations your BOINC is using now (and not remnants of old BOINC installations):

1) BOINC Program directory:
(here you see boinc.dll ; boinc.exe, ...)
* in Start Menu - check where the shortcut "BOINC Manager" is pointing (from where the "boincmgr.exe" is started really)

Mine is:
D:\Programs.98\Science\BOINC\boincmgr.exe

What is yours? (Copy from the shortcut Properties)


2) BOINC Data directory:
(here you see client_state.xml file, slots directory, ...)
* in the Messages tab of the running BOINC Manager look at the top:

28-12-09 06:53:01 Starting BOINC client version 6.6.38 for windows_intelx86
28-12-09 06:53:01 log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops, benchmark_debug
28-12-09 06:53:01 Libraries: libcurl/7.19.4 OpenSSL/0.9.8k zlib/1.2.3
28-12-09 06:53:01 Data directory: D:\Programs.98\Science\BOINC-Data

You see that my BOINC Data directory is:
D:\Programs.98\Science\BOINC-Data

What is yours? (Copy from the Messages tab)


3) To double-check both - go to (in RegEdit):

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley\BOINC Setup

and check the values of:
INSTALLDIR
DATADIR

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3541) Questions and Answers : Windows : Just found out BOINC, using advanced install option, it is in a WRONG diectory, so no install or repair is possible. (Message 960113)
Posted 2 Jan 2010 by Profile BilBg
Post:
BOINC Data directory can be anywhere you choose if the location is writable.

(You can't use write-protected disk or directory.
So, e.g., you can't place BOINC Data directory under C:\Program Files on Vista or Win 7)

( On my 2 computers I choose for BOINC Data directory (manually) these:
D:\Programs.98\Science\BOINC-Data
H:\BOINC-Data

)

But C:\Documents and Settings\BOINC is writable I think, so it is OK for BOINC to use as BOINC Data directory.

Do you see it listed as BOINC Data directory in the Messages tab?
Do you see client_state.xml file in it with a current date/time?
Do you see slots directory, inside slots - some subfolders - 0, 1, 2 ... and at least in one of them state.sah with a current date/time?

If the answers are Yes you are OK, if No - this directory is harmless remnant of old BOINC installation.

(Why do you think that "no install or repair is possible"?
I even think that if you re-install and choose another place the installer will move
BOINC Data directory automatically to the new location together with all the files inside it
(but I'm not very sure - do backup copy before you try).
)
3542) Questions and Answers : Web site : Out of work (Message 959453)
Posted 30 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Don't ask - read ... (many many many answers in the forum)

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58255
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58258
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58253#959306
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58257
.......
3543) Questions and Answers : Windows : Boinc is telling me there is no work available!!! (Message 959440)
Posted 30 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Read around the forum and you will find - nobody can get new work from SETI now.

But soon you and everybody will get (servers are recovering from power outage).
3544) Questions and Answers : Windows : Update version. (Message 959177)
Posted 29 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Like I said. Paranoid schizophrenia. I'm afraid you're just going to have to humor me. It's not under my control.


:) Yes, I am psychic - I can see your room - you are in front of the - WAIT, WHAT is this ...... I see, ...
I see ..., YES - a computer ... and ... you are moving your hands and fingers over ... wait a moment ... some kind of a device .....
aaaaaaah - it's a keyboard and ........ you are typing on it
WHAT? ..... Oh, I know now - you are typing "I will NOT show MY computer whatever you say"
;)


(If Scott Armstrong is your real name it tells much more info about you than a few common computer details!)


You're also going to have to please explain resource share. I'm not computer literate.


If you like/prefer SETI@home more than other projects
and want your computer to work for SETI 77% of the time
leaving 3 x 8% CPU time for your 3 other projects:

Go to "Your account" - http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/home.php
Click on "SETI@home preferences"
Click on "Edit SETI@home preferences" (at bottom of the page)
Change "Resource share:" from 100 to 1000
Click button "Update preferences" (at bottom of the page)

When BOINC connects to the SETI@home servers it will read the new preferences.
You can do this manually -
in BOINC Manager - "Projects" tab - select SETI@home - Click button "Update"

3545) Questions and Answers : Windows : Suddenly not processing (Message 959164)
Posted 29 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Did you see the above post - you and I typed at the same minute ...
3546) Questions and Answers : Windows : Suddenly not processing (Message 959161)
Posted 29 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

What version are these "100 units in the queue waiting"?
If they are
setiathome_enhanced 6.08
or
setiathome_enhanced 6.09
they can only be processed by GPU (CUDA)

You need WUs branded
setiathome_enhanced 6.03
for the CPU

You don't have them because SETI servers were offline for a day.

Your BOINC try to get tasks for CPU:
SETI@home Reporting 7 completed tasks, requesting new tasks for CPU
3547) Questions and Answers : Windows : Update version. (Message 959145)
Posted 29 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
"I'm fully assuming your BOINC is overworked with what you've loaded it up with"

I had no idea that could happen, because I've seen people on this forum working a lot more than four(if I'm interpreting everybody's stats correctly). Should I withdraw from a project or two? Or should I distribute the resources better?


It depends on how fast your computer is and how big your "WU cache" is.

Did you change your Computing preferences:
Computer is connected to the Internet about every - XX days
Maintain enough work for an additional - YY days

It depends also on change of your habits of using the computer.

If in the past the computer was ON all the time and computing on projects
BOINC downloaded more (enough) work for this type of usage.

If now you use it rarely and sleep/switch it off when you do not use it
BOINC will see this and accommodate - but slowly - as it will try to complete the already downloaded work.


"Distributing the resources" is what I explained above as "resource share".


By the way, I've hidden my computer because I have paranoid schizophrenia, and opening it for everybody to view seems Big Brother-ish.


You Hide your computers - why?
There is NO sensitive info which we can see - only the type of CPU, GPU and OS.

See my computers by clicking on my "name" BilBg to the left of this post -
what you can see about mine is all that we can see of yours.

So there is no need to hide your computers ...


This is what I see of your computer:

Computer 4504512

Owner Anonymous
Created 30 Jul 2008 2:01:25 UTC
Total credit 2,238
Average credit 11.49
CPU type GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.50GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9]
Number of processors 1
Coprocessors ---
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Home x86 Edition, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00)
BOINC client version 6.10.18
Memory 503.52 MB
Cache 0 KB
Measured floating point speed 1318.87 million ops/sec
Measured integer speed 2398.24 million ops/sec
Average upload rate 16.22 KB/sec
Average download rate 97.65 KB/sec
Average turnaround time 30.27 days
Maximum daily WU quota per CPU 100/day
Tasks 0


And this is what I see of your Account:

Account data for Scott Armstrong

SETI@home member since 29 Aug 2003
Country United States
Total credit 2,590
Recent average credit 11.49
SETI@home classic workunits 363
SETI@home classic CPU time 14,873 hours
Computers hidden

Projects in which Scott Armstrong is participating
Project Total credit Average credit Since
SETI@home 2,590 9 29 Aug 2003
climateprediction.net 5,757 9 11 Aug 2008
Einstein@Home 7,882 0 11 Aug 2008

Team None
Message boards 37 posts

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3548) Questions and Answers : Windows : Update version. (Message 959093)
Posted 29 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If SETI@home is your favorite project then change its resource share from 100 to 1000 (or 10000 or any bigger than 100 number you like)

If SETI@home resource share is set to 1000 you will have a "pie" or "pizza" made of 1300 "pieces" (seconds, minutes)
- BOINC will try to get:
for every 1000 seconds of SETI@home work
only 100 + 100 + 100 seconds for your other 3 projects.

This means (if all projects have (can send) work) that your CPU will compute:
for SETI@home - 1000/1300 = 77% of the time
for Docking@Home - 100/1300 = 8% of the time
for Einstein@Home - 100/1300 = 8% of the time
for climateprediction.net - 100/1300 = 8% of the time


BOINC will need some time (days, weeks) to accommodate the change (as you have already downloaded work to complete).


P.S.
When you say "My installer is doing the same thing" (hang in the middle of installation) do you refer to the file
boinc_6.10.18_windows_intelx86.exe
?

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3549) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Where are new tapes? (Message 958963)
Posted 27 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Maybe the algorithm has changed. Maybe the scientists are trying different things and adapting to search different frequency ranges.
......
I believe the SETI@home scientists are currently putting great effort into removing RFI (Radio interference) from the data.

John.


AFAIK this tapes from 2006, 2007 where never analyzed (crunched) because of RFI in them.

Now they remove RFI by software before splitting to workunits.

How to "search different frequency ranges" if the record don't contain them?

3550) Questions and Answers : Windows : Update version. (Message 958957)
Posted 27 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I'm not receiving any error messages, but my installer is doing the same thing. I've tried all of the above. For some reason, BOINC is now only performing Docking@home and when it switches between projects, it only lists what I am participating in, then goes back to Docking. It's never done that before.


You don't get answers because it is not clear what do you say/ask.

"... my installer is doing the same thing." -
What "the same" is it doing?
If you can't install how do you can run BOINC?

"it only lists what I am participating in" -
What do you mean? To clarify - copy/paste here some 10-20 rows of messages (from the "Messages" tab of BOINC Manager).

3551) Questions and Answers : Windows : Confused about merging computers. (Message 958928)
Posted 27 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I think only CPU ID matters, OS can be different (for OS upgrade).

You can try to merge (go to the computer Details and at the bottom of page click "Merge this computer") -

if it can be merged you will see the list of similar computers to merge,
if it can't - you will see the message "No hosts are eligible for merging with this one."
3552) Message boards : Number crunching : Need help for virus (Message 958656)
Posted 25 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I use ESET NOD32 Antivirus on my computers so I will recommend

Free ESET Online Scanner:
"
ESET Online Scanner is a user friendly, free and powerful tool which you can use to remove malware from any PC utilizing only your web browser without having to install anti-virus software.
ESET Online Scanner uses the same ThreatSense® technology and signatures as ESET Smart Security / ESET NOD32 Antivirus, and is always up-to-date.

IMPORTANT: Administrator privileges are required to run ESET Online Scanner
"

http://www.eset.com/onlinescan/


Compare Antivirus Software:
http://www.eset.com/products/compare-NOD32-vs-competition.php


P.S.
What do you mean: "removed a lot of stuff from the desktop"?

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3553) Message boards : Number crunching : Intel Atom processor (Message 958226)
Posted 23 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I know the Atom is weak, but how does it (I'm referring to the single core version) stand against a Pentium 4-M? (I'm neither referring to the much faster Pentium M nor the much hotter Mobile Pentium 4)?

And has anyone made a comparison between a top-of-the-line Pentium III processor (1.4 GHz, 133 MHz FSB) and a single core Atom?


Maybe this info is "more than nothing":

Atom
http://boincstats.com/stats/host_cpu_stats.php?pr=bo&teamid=&st=1150&or=0

Pentium(R) III
http://boincstats.com/stats/host_cpu_stats.php?pr=bo&teamid=&st=1600&or=0

Look at the column "Average credit per CPU second"

3554) Message boards : Number crunching : "Average turnaround time" (Message 958215)
Posted 23 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What is "Average turnaround time" mine says
Average turnaround time 1.7 days
I thought I contacted seti more often and I probably do around 800 units in that time so I am not sure what it refers to. Seems others may be confused also.


This time is about the same as the size of your cache.

You get the WU (start timer) -> It stays in the cache -> It is processed (crunched) -> Upload -> Report (stop timer)

The "timer" value is the turnaround time for this WU

Average turnaround time is the "Average" of this over all WUs you reported in the last 30 (?) days.
3555) Message boards : Number crunching : Crunching for long periods of time.. (Message 958213)
Posted 23 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I built my computer about 6 months ago, already out dated but trying to protect it as long as possible. Just wondering can crunching for a long period of time like 24 hours straight really do any harm to it?


Mine 2 computers are running SETI non-stop for years - if temperatures are OK the CPU will be OK for years.

I don't think the CPU life is affected at all if it computes all the time.
3556) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lunatics' Unified Installer (Optimized SETI) (Message 957786)
Posted 21 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Does anybody happen to know when the new version of
Lunatics' Unified Installer
will be ready for download?

I think it may incorporate (in addition to already present):
Cuda 2.3 DLLs
CudaMB VlarKill
CudaMB non-VlarKill
CudaMB 6.09 in app_info.xml
Hybrid ATI GPU/CPU AstroPulse
Rescheduling Tool

? TThrottle
? CPU-Z for semi-auto selection of apps

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3557) Questions and Answers : Windows : Win 98 - BOINC 6.10.18 available? (Message 956891)
Posted 17 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Why on Win 98 BOINC 6.6.38 gives the following advice in messages tab:

12/17/09 15:45:29 A new version of BOINC (6.10.18) is available for your computer
12/17/09 15:45:29 Visit http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php to get it.



In
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

BOINC 6.10.18 is intended only for
Windows 2000/XP/Vista/7


Will it run on Win 98?


If people follow the advice and go to
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php

they will see:

Download BOINC
6.10.18 for Windows (7.35 MB)

It is not clear on this page which Windows versions BOINC 6.10.18 is intended for.

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3558) Questions and Answers : Web site : site admin access (Message 954415)
Posted 13 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Python says that on this page:

Release notes for version 6.10 (BOINC)
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Release_Notes

he can use "Edit" button (on top of the page) to Edit the info.

He wonders why anybody is permitted to change this info (and not only the BOINC developers).
3559) Questions and Answers : Getting started : I CAN'T DOWNLOAD BIONIC SOFTWARE ! (Message 954409)
Posted 13 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
For BOINC 6.10.18 try:

http://boinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_6.10.18_windows_intelx86.exe
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_6.10.18_windows_intelx86.exe


Can you download any other .exe files from USA servers?


P.S.

It is BOINC - Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing (BOINC)

It is not bionics or biology related.
3560) Message boards : Number crunching : Tried to upgrade to 6.10, get a registry error while installing (Message 953398)
Posted 9 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Most probably it is blocked by AV or AntiSpyware (Ad-Aware has such feature)

What kind of AV/AS do you use?
3561) Message boards : Number crunching : Beginner's guide to improving performance (Message 953393)
Posted 9 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Thank you for the tip, just tried looking for the "AK_v8_win_SSE3.exe" process, its not running,


Restart BOINC and post the first 20-30 messages

3562) Questions and Answers : Windows : SETI crashes Windows XP (Message 952966)
Posted 7 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
* Eventually SETI starts as a screensaver.



SETI does not start as a screensaver (as it was in old times) -
usually (if you don't choose otherwise) it runs all the time at the background as a very low priority process.

You do not need the BOINC screensaver so the easy solution is to change the screensaver to (None).

Or upgrade the video driver.
3563) Questions and Answers : Windows : "Error while computing" - Windows 7 (Message 952959)
Posted 7 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Yeah, dropping the RAM speed has been tried ... to death. It stil ldoesn't work (I have it running at 400 now). Although actual slower RAM does help, a lot - no bluescreens in over a week, opposed to multiple daily :( I'm just gonna try the 800 because I suspect that's gonna be fine, given my testing with 1gb of it - it's just 1gb ain't much nowadays ;) I'm just a bit over having arguments with it and want to go back to something that works :)


I think you have 3 x 1 GB so try 1 DIMM at a time (or 2 in dual mode?)

Did you try higher RAM voltage?

What type motherboard (vendor & model) is it?
What type of RAM is it?
Are the 3 RAM modules identical?

Some motherboards work better if only 2 DIMMs are in use.
3564) Questions and Answers : Windows : "Error while computing" - Windows 7 (Message 952933)
Posted 7 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Well yeah - although I'm surprised it caused tehse sorts of problems. My problem is that my board doesn't like 1066 RAM (even though it 'supports' it) causing random BSOD's, and i've given up trying to get it to work so trading it in for some 800 which I already know does work (I just don't have enough of it to be useful). I'd just kinda figured that Seti would recover - if it's the BSOD's causing it, then perhaps it's corrupting something?



I don't think you need to buy new 800 MHz RAM -
just go to BIOS and tell it to use RAM at 400 MHz (= DDR2 800)


Or adjust the timings for RAM

(
CAS Latency (CL)
RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD)
RAS Precharge (tRP)
RAS Active Time (tRAS)
etc.
)

to bigger numbers.


You can also raise the RAM voltage (if this is supported in your BIOS).

(You probably know this: to go to the BIOS restart computer and at the starting (black) screen press Del or Delete or F2 or ... check the motherboard manual which key to press)

(If you think the 1066 MHz RAM can't run at 800 MHz - it can even run at 40 MHz - if your car can run at 200 it can easy run at 80 :) )

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3565) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : FAQ and comments about the Higley School District controversy (Message 952652)
Posted 5 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Confused school district fires sysadmin for running SETI@home: 'As an educational institution we do not support the search for E.T.'

(By Nilay Patel posted Dec 2nd 2009)





http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/02/confused-school-district-fires-sysadmin-for-running-seti-as-an/


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3566) Questions and Answers : Getting started : my pc keep downloading work from the server ? (Message 951596)
Posted 2 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

ok, it has done . ., but, in Tasks tab, there is a 45 hours project, why is it so long ? can I pause it if I want to shutdown my PC and I resume it later ? ^^ thanks


You don't need to pause manually -
every minute the found results are written (auto-saved) in small file on the hard disk.

You can sleep or shutdown your computer whenever you like.

After you wakeup or start your computer the computations will continue from where it was.

(you lose max 1 minute of work)

3567) Questions and Answers : Web site : Looking for my Seti Uploaded file tasks (Message 951583)
Posted 2 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

350Kb does not sound like much until you multiply by 500,000,000 or so results completed. (we are talking about 100s of petabytes here).


Do you happen to know the size of the science database?

3568) Message boards : Number crunching : NEZ - The truth behind the credits... finally revealed. (Message 951563)
Posted 2 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I pay only constant $15/month for unlimited 10 Mbit/s DSL at home
- I do not pay more even if I download/upload 2000 GB / month.

Because, as a home user, your ISP assumes that you're going to sleep sometimes.

They assume that during business hours (when their capacity goes to business customers) you're at work.

... and you likely agreed not to run servers (per their Terms of Service).

Schools get very good pricing on bandwidth, but it's not $15 month (but probably less than $15/month/classroom).



I sleep sometimes ;) but my computers run all the time -
if I have HDD space I can download torrents non-stop (I really upload non-stop more than 100 torrents now).


If "Schools pay less than $15/month/classroom" and it is regardless of how much GB they download/upload
then NEZ did NOT increase the bill they pay for internet!

3569) Message boards : Number crunching : NEZ - The truth behind the credits... finally revealed. (Message 951553)
Posted 2 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I still wonder why everyone still forgets to notice that with the HUGE amount of WUs this guy was crunching, the bandwidth used to move that data back and forth between AZ and Cal Berkeley had to be incredibly high over the period of time he was doing this. Bandwidth is NOT cheap and could have easily passed up the electrical costs depending on how the district is funded and who is providing said bandwidth.


I pay only constant $15/month for unlimited 10 Mbit/s DSL at home
- I do not pay more even if I download/upload 2000 GB / month.

So why do you think schools can't make contract with ISP for constant $$$ paid for unlimited GB download/upload?

3570) Message boards : Number crunching : NEZ - The truth behind the credits... finally revealed. (Message 951546)
Posted 2 Dec 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Wow, so a school helped another school. He probably saved them money...the main problems I ever have with computers usually happens when they are restarting after being shutdown. He probably saved them tons of $200 an hour so called computer experts. I never turn off my machines.


It happens on my 10 years old K6-2+ / 524 MHz computer -
it runs unstable after 1 day off - I think electrolytic capacitors are old and lose capacity if they are not charged.

Also the 40 GB Maxtor HDD sometimes have difficulty starting.
(S.M.A.R.T. info is reasonably OK - only 1 relocated sector - happened 2 years ago)

If the computer runs all the time it is OK.

And of course CPU don't "wear out" if run at 100% if you don't let it overheat.

3571) Questions and Answers : Web site : Looking for my Seti Uploaded file tasks (Message 950748)
Posted 29 Nov 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
How would you like to transport those several terabytes of data? ;-)

And think about the time needed for the copy process.



Don't they make backups of the science database (and send them to another town/country)?

What if fire in the lab?
Or big earthquake in California?
Or US government decides to confiscate the data and send SWAT team?
Or hackers break-through?
Or thieves steal the HDDs?

...
3572) Questions and Answers : Web site : Looking for my Seti Uploaded file tasks (Message 950720)
Posted 29 Nov 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
There is no way in the world Seti can give everyone access to the master database. Just having the NiTPiCKeR software scanning that continuously updating database to make a list of possible interesting results that should be re-observed is tasking the Seti resources. Allowing the over 300 thousand currently active users to query it is just not something that is possible to do. Now, if you have a hundred million dollars to donate for the necessary hardware and manpower then maybe....



Is the science database "OPEN science" as the programs are "OPEN source"?

(Third party as Lunatics do great job in optimizing SETI apps sources.)

Is it possible that (backup copy of) the science database be given to third party (e.g. BOINCstats) once a week or month?

Maybe they will find the time and resources to make search engine for users to "explore" the found "signals"?

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3573) Questions and Answers : Web site : Looking for my Seti Uploaded file tasks (Message 950285)
Posted 27 Nov 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Hello,

Thank you for your answer

In fact BoincLogX do it automatically.

But, i´m talking about the tasks that i uploaded with Boinc to SETI before BoinclogX installation.
After Upload the files aren´t anymore in my PC

Can you help me ?



AFAIK -
There is NO way to get them - the WUs and the result files are deleted both on your PC and on SETI servers -
only the found signals (and who found them) are put in the science database which is not accessible by the users.

3574) Questions and Answers : Web site : Looking for my Seti Uploaded file tasks (Message 950085)
Posted 27 Nov 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
In first place i like to thank you for your answer.

Can you please also tell me wich files(extensions) in the Berkeley.Edu folder that i should copy ?

It is possible to see later these copied files in the Mapview ?

Thank you



You don't need to do this manually - BoincLogX will do this automatically


For setting BoincLogX look my answer here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=55127&nowrap=true#927634

You can find BoincLogX 1.52 & SetiMapView 6.54 here:
http://www.bjoernhenke.de/frame.htm?/boinclogx/index.en.htm

3575) Questions and Answers : Windows : Installing Boinc as a service (invisible mode) (Message 947138)
Posted 14 Nov 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Does anyone knows how to install boinc as a service? I don't want the tray icon appearing every time I boot my computer.


Look here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=55621&nowrap=true#941386

Your computers are hidden - so the next may or may not apply to you:
If you use Vista/Win7 + CUDA it will not work with service (Protected) install.
Look e.g. this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=56112&nowrap=true#945416

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3576) Questions and Answers : Windows : Seting up Seti@Home Mapview (Message 946755)
Posted 12 Nov 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
For setting BoincLogX look my answer here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=55127&nowrap=true#927634

You can find BoincLogX 1.52 & SetiMapView 6.54 here:
http://www.bjoernhenke.de/frame.htm?/boinclogx/index.en.htm

3577) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC asking for more disk space (Message 943549)
Posted 29 Oct 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I notice that you are using a fairly old version of BOINC.


Yes, Very old. Some people think (WRONG) that they will lose all the credits if they install newer BOINC.
3578) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows 7 + BOINC (Message 943539)
Posted 29 Oct 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Hold on.. Do you by chance have a 64bit Windows 7? if so, are you then installing the 64bit BOINC on that OS?

I ask, as the version for Windows XP pro will be 32bit, so that's one hostID.
If Windows 7 is a 64bit OS, it will make a new hostID as the platform operating system has changed. Work is registered against the hostID.

You may be able to spoof it by installing and running the 32bit BOINC in Windows XP compatibility mode on Windows 7.


Is it possible to install 32 bit BOINC on 32 bit OS and 64 bit BOINC on 64 bit OS but pointing both to the same BOINC Data directory (e.g. C:\BOINC_Data)?


3579) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lunatics' Unified Installer (Optimized SETI) (Message 943532)
Posted 29 Oct 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... The software licence for each type of CPU can cost a ton of money. ...


??? I don't understand this - why, who will get "a ton of money"?

How "Lunatics" people can do it for free?!

If they implement some kind of "CPU-Z, GPU-Z" incorporation in the Unified Installer
the check for system capabilities and the install of Optimized SETI apps can be done automatically
or semi-automatically after user confirmation of the chosen apps.

So the "official" SETI people can find some way to deploy Lunatics' Unified Installer to Windows computers ...

3580) Questions and Answers : Windows : how can i find the workunit (WU) ? (Message 941331)
Posted 19 Oct 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Hi, McAfee AV, gives no warning, when scanning the executable!
Maybe when you expand /unpack it, (it contains a little more, probably).
Haven't tryed it.




NOD32 v2.70.39 - no warning for site or wu2wav.exe

(wu2wav.exe is simple command line executable - not sfx archive)


(NOD32 - made in Slovakia | AVG & Avast - Czech republic - so at least 3 AV from former CzechoSlovakia ;) )
3581) Questions and Answers : Windows : how can i find the workunit (WU) ? (Message 941311)
Posted 19 Oct 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
... how will you know if you find something if it is deleted..?


After reporting you can look (for a short time - day or days) the info about your results here:
look at ACCOUNT > Computers on this account > Tasks

But if you use BoincLogX & SetiMapView the results will be kept on your computer
and you can see them on the picture of night sky ...

(
Anyway the results from any single WU don't mean much
On the HOME page look Science status - there are almost 3 000 000 000 "signals" found so far:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sci_status.html
)

3582) Questions and Answers : Windows : how can i find the workunit (WU) ? (Message 941306)
Posted 19 Oct 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
oh there is a programm my friend... look for information here... http://netti.nic.fi/~jknutar/wu2wav/ it turns the workunit to sound.... thank you Bil i already know about this plugins... i just want to know where is the workunit is saved... the file. thx for the help but i think i find it... it is a hidden directory.. C:\ProgramData\BOINC in slots.... i just will wait till it ends i am at 80%


I see you are new here and (Sorry) you don't know what you are doing.

1 - there is NO workunit in the slot
... - the WUs are in C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\
... but if you want to play with them COPY them to new empty folder and play there

2 - If you "wait till it ends" you will lose it on your computer
... - the result will be uploaded, reported and workunit DELETED from your computer
... UNLESS you install BoincLogX

3 - The "sound" program wu2wav is VERY old (2000 year) and can't work on today WU file format
... - it was designed for SETI Classic which don't exist anymore!


Have a nice day
3583) Questions and Answers : Windows : Verification Backlog? (Message 941300)
Posted 19 Oct 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The top computer:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4788195

has more than 12000 tasks (WUs) shown but part are already completed.

Lets say it has 10000 to do - and will complete all in max 20 days!

The cache is given in days of work - not the number of WUs.
BOINC decided that this computer can complete all this WUs in time.

What is his pending credit? - ask him (maybe 50000 ??)

Mine is 500 - 2500 (just now ~1000).


"So what is the upside of having a massive cache with THOUSANDS of WUs ...":

This cache is big for you but it can be only 5-10 work days for some.

My slowest computer (K6-2+ @ 524 MHz) has 14 days cache and has only 2 WUs to do!
My better (Athlon 64 @ 2435 MHz) has 14 days cache and has 64 WUs.


"I have noticed several days in the past week when the scheduler has no new WUs to send me.":
You answered your question - why 1 day cache is not good - set it to e.g. 5-10

(you buy some food and put it in the fridge to have for a week, don't you?)

3584) Questions and Answers : Windows : Verification Backlog? (Message 941231)
Posted 19 Oct 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
At present, I have almost 2000 credits pending verification. Is this normal? I don't have very fast computers and I don't even have ALL of my computers crunching SETI@Home.

I did poke around at some of the computers I am waiting on and some of them have hundreds or even THOUSANDS of WUs pending in their queue. This seems a little absurd to me especially since the scheduler is reporting no new work units are available and I am almost out. Wouldn't it be more productive to spread WUs out a little bit more than that?


THOUSANDS of WUs pending in their queue have the computers with CUDA, multicore CPU and optimized apps simply because they are very fast;
Also if they have set large WU cache (10+10 days).

You Hide your computers - why?
There is NO sensitive info which we can see - only the type of CPU, GPU and OS.

See my computers by clicking on my "name" BilBg to the left of this post -
what you can see about mine is all that we can see of yours.

So there is no need to hide your computers ...

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3585) Questions and Answers : Windows : how can i find the workunit (WU) ? (Message 941119)
Posted 18 Oct 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
After finishing... is the workunit stored-saved in my pc?? I lookeed evrywhre but nothing ... how can i find the directory?? i know newbee question but please help.. thank you


If you want to know how to keep the results on your computer look here:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=55127&nowrap=true#927634

This is my post explaining how to use BoincLogX & SetiMapView.


You can find both programs here:

http://www.bjoernhenke.de/frame.htm?/boinclogx/index.en.htm


P.S.
You are using Vista - I will recommend to install NOT in C:\Program Files (write-protected in Vista)

Install in e.g.:
C:\BoincLogX

In this case the logs will be in:
C:\BoincLogX\logs
3586) Questions and Answers : Windows : laptop shuts off when its hot (Message 940820)
Posted 17 Oct 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Through the day I am trying programs that was suggested to me, Tthrottle, and Motherboard Monitor, strangely I noticed they both don't sensor the cpu temperature. This is a Travelmate 4150, 4152LMi
Now this is really getting me to scratch my skull, I did like Tthrottle but I could not get it to monitor the cpu to find out it’s temperature, program runs, does not tell me how hot it is, just zero.


TThrottle & Core Temp & Real Temp will NOT work on your CPU because the CPU is older -

only the new CPUs of the last about 3 years support internal (in the CPU) thermal diode
which TThrottle, Core Temp or Real Temp can read (these programs can't read Motherboard sensors).

Motherboard Monitor can read Motherboard sensors but it is itself OLD program (AFAIK) and is not updated anymore:

http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Info/Motherboard-Monitor.shtml

"Last Updated: June 18th, 2004"


This is why I proposed to you in my previous post:
"
For hardware monitoring you can try

EVEREST
http://www.lavalys.com/

or the free SIV (System Information Viewer)
http://rh-software.com/

They can read values from the motherboard & videocard sensors
"

EVEREST is not free and in trial mode hides some info -
if it works you can buy it or find another way to ... :)

SIV is free and has no need for install - just unzip in empty folder and run SIV.exe
If you like it - put shortcut in Startup with ".......\SIV.exe -TRAY"

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3587) Questions and Answers : Windows : Multiple icons in system tray (Message 940268)
Posted 16 Oct 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If you exit All BOINC Managers the computation will stop.

Only if you use "Stop running science applications when exiting the manager" or used that in the past and checked the "Remember this decision and do not show this dialog" option.

Else, both in service installation and in non-service installation, the client will continue to run.


Yes, but I tried to make it simple -
if the OP does not know that he (by hand) started multiple instances of boincmgr.exe I suppose he is using all by default.

I never imagined someone starting many times a program which is already running (and be unaware of this! - never look in Task Manager?).
Maybe he does this every time with e.g. Skype, µTorrent, etc. but they allow only one instance.

(I do sometimes exit boincmgr.exe leaving boinc.exe and SETI app to do the job - this hides the icon from my children)


OK, (in my opinion) it's Very Probable in his case that exiting the last boincmgr.exe will stop the computations (and he will not know about it).

3588) Questions and Answers : Windows : Screen locks - Help!!! (Message 940208)
Posted 15 Oct 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
..... Personally I think it was a mistake going with BOINC.



BOINC runs well on about 500 000 computers worldwide.

And yes - you don't have to run the BOINC screen saver - it does not help the computations in any way -
run any screen saver you like or no screen saver at all -
just make in power profile the monitor to sleep after e.g. 15 minutes.

3589) Questions and Answers : Windows : Not Getting New Credit (Message 940203)
Posted 15 Oct 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
when a WU finishes it contacts the server so yes it will change at that point



Not always - only if the WU is reported or new WUs requested.

But still - if you use the Update button in BOINC Manager
the credit info will be updated - it will increase if e.g.
some pending become validated or another of your computers reported completed WUs.

If you then look at the graphic the credit info will be the same unchanged old value.
3590) Questions and Answers : Windows : Multiple icons in system tray (Message 940200)
Posted 15 Oct 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
BOINC is not in my start-up folder, so that's OK.

I take it, then, that every time I open the BOINC mgr. to look at the progress, it leaves an icon in the system tray? Whoa.

At least it's simple enough. Right-click and close. Thanks.



To look at the progress Don't click the icon on the Desktop -
double-click the icon in system tray - there have to be just one.

If you exit All BOINC Managers the computation will stop.
In this case you have to start BOINC Manager from the Desktop icon
but do it only once - if there is BOINC Manager icon in the system tray
use it.

Many BOINC Manager icons in system tray don't change the number of computations
done - they only consume memory and a little CPU time ( < 1% each).

BOINC Manager doesn't compute for the science - it is only the program which
we use to "look at" and "manage" the computations.
3591) Questions and Answers : Windows : What's up with the BOINC forums? (Message 940198)
Posted 15 Oct 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Try from another browser (I have IE, Firefox, Opera, Google Chrome, Apple Safari)
or another computer.

Do they all fail?

3592) Questions and Answers : Windows : Not Getting New Credit (Message 939969)
Posted 14 Oct 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

... I take it that part of the graphic only updates between work units then?


It will update when the client contacts the server and requests an update.


I think that credit info on the graphic is updated only after restart of BOINC.

3593) Questions and Answers : Windows : Spybot says BOINC is keylogger (Message 939558)
Posted 13 Oct 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

If you wish use:
https://www.virustotal.com/

to check your copy of boincmgr.exe

I did and here are the results:
https://www.virustotal.com/analisis/320f9cd9a60e2366e004411c6285432157675fc8ec9b9d71302165fd98bce5a7-1255351403

Result: 0/41 (0.00%) -
Zero of total 41 virus scanners find anything.

(I use NOD32 on my computers)

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3594) Questions and Answers : Windows : laptop shuts off when its hot (Message 938487)
Posted 9 Oct 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

For hardware monitoring you can try

EVEREST
http://www.lavalys.com/

or the free SIV (System Information Viewer)
http://rh-software.com/

They can read values from the motherboard & videocard sensors


P.S.
If SETI computations overheat your CPU then any program that uses 90-100% of CPU for a few minutes can do the same
(e.g. heavy game, 3D rendering (3ds Max, Revit, ...), WinRar compressing of large (> 1 GB) files, ...)

If you find it difficult to clean the dust inside your laptop (it is really hard to do this on many laptops)
you can try to change the power profile to "Power Saver" (click on the battery icon near the clock at bottom-right of the screen)

The Power Saver profile usually lowers the CPU frequency & voltage by ~20-30% which cools the CPU.

You can monitor the CPU frequency, voltage, temperature, fan speed by Everest or SIV.

On my daughter's laptop (one year old) while running SETI the CPU temperature drops from ~95C to ~75C in Power Saver profile.
(Core 2 Duo CPU goes from 2000MHz to 1600MHz = 80% of the max)

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3595) Questions and Answers : Windows : I lost all my credits! (Message 937586)
Posted 3 Oct 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Here is his account with the credits.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=8967893


YES !

Bravo, arkayn & Gundolf Jahn, the links are correct -
the same CPU, 2 computers - Vista "computer" & XP "computer,
credits, contact times match.

So, John, now we are 100% sure you have 2 accounts, are you?

To avoid this to happen again don't type e-mail address - copy & paste it.

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3596) Questions and Answers : Windows : I lost all my credits! (Message 937256)
Posted 2 Oct 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Same authenticator in the file as on the webpage.

John



Of course they will be the same - you have fresh BOINC install and you use now this account for both BOINC and posting on this web page.

As I understand your previous BOINC installation is wiped from the disk since you reformatted the HDD and installed Win XP

Do you really in all this years never used another computer (of your brother/sister/wife/friend/...) to look at your account?



The only thing i can think of is that some months ago i changed the account name from "John" to "John Kristian".
That didnt show up before after the XP install.
Maybe thats it?




I did the same from "Bil" to "BilBg" and everything is OK.

And the new name is visible in BOINC Manager just in a few seconds after you press the "Update" button!

If "That didnt show up before after the XP install." than you changed the name for THIS account you are using now
but your OLD BOINC (at the time of Vista) were using Different account!

Even if you think that your account info is somehow vanished from the SETI web site
why you don't show on
http://boincstats.com/
as user "John Kristian" if you use this name since "some months ago"?

Boincstats.com has completely different computers/databases and if you used BOINC in the past months with the username "John Kristian" you will be there!

99.9% I bet you never used this account with BOINC, only with SETI classic.

Do you have some "friend" who changed (attached) your (OLD) BOINC to crunch for HIS account?!

I bet you used to check (in Vista times) your credits only in BOINC Manager, not on this web site ...

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3597) Questions and Answers : Windows : I lost all my credits! (Message 936933)
Posted 30 Sep 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Hi there!

Been running SETI@Home for the last couple of years on my laptop with Vista installed. Yesterday Vista crashed totally.. Giving me no other possibility than to install what i had lying around (XP).

Now.. I downloaded Boinc after the installation and logged in with my usual login/pw.. But all my credits are gone.. Why? Is this normal? I would think that the server would have a record of all credits?

Regards
John



99% I guess you have another account.

If you happen to look at your account from another computer's browser and selected "Stay logged in on this computer" try from the same another computer & the same browser again.

This way you can find what Email address you used for the login recently.

If the account you use now is the same you used in the past months I expect it to show 2 computers - the Vista "computer" & the XP "computer".

...

Or in your ACCOUNT here click on "Log out" and try to Log in using any other e-mail addresses you have.

After you find the correct Email address you have to go to BOINC Manager,
detach from project and attach again using the correct Email address.


Search on
http://boincstats.com/
for user "John Kristian" shows
"Your search - john kristian - did not match any user"
so you never used BOINC with that name (you used SETI@home classic with the name "John Kristian")

Search for e.g. "Gundolf Jahn" shows:
http://boincstats.com/search/all_projects.php?cpid=761e46f2fcefe4d1a45a2dbf11734fe6
3598) Questions and Answers : Windows : Artemis Trojan (Message 934762)
Posted 20 Sep 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Dump McAfee and get a reliable and FREE AV solution such as Avira AntiVIR.


I like most NOD32 Antivirus

http://www.eset.com/

http://www.eset.com/products/compare-NOD32-vs-competition.php
3599) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC Error 183 (in part) (Message 929281)
Posted 28 Aug 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Check your registry ([HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]) and Startmenu\Autostart for duplicate autostarts of BOINC manager. Check also user "All Users".


The easy way to do this is by MsConfig -> Startup-Tab

(on the keyboard press Win+R and type MsConfig)

3600) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Returning to Seti, but CUDA is really slow? (Message 929177)
Posted 28 Aug 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
If you don't want to compute this kind of long-time VLAR WUs you can use Optimized Apps - Lunatics' Unified Installer:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54288&nowrap=true#927649

(They will be automatically rejected (killed))
3601) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lunatics' Unified Installer (Optimized SETI) (Message 927649)
Posted 21 Aug 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.2 looks like this:






Now Downloads are >2000 - lets make them 5000 :)

This is the best free way to make your computer faster for SETI:

http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9

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3602) Questions and Answers : Windows : Help with logging (Message 927634)
Posted 21 Aug 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
i dont seem to have any luck in using a logging program so i can use SetiMap View, i have used Seti@home-log9X and BoincLogX and i cant seem to get either to work...i just dont know have.

Could some please give me a step by step on what would be the best programs to use and how to set them up.

Cheers


I use BoincLogX 1.52 & SetiMapView 6.54 on Vista32 for over an year.

You have to point it to BOINC Data directory.
Look in the Messages tab in BOINC Manager to see where is yours:

17.08.2009 08:37:45 Starting BOINC client version 6.6.36 for windows_intelx86
17.08.2009 08:37:45 log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
17.08.2009 08:37:46 Libraries: libcurl/7.19.4 OpenSSL/0.9.8j zlib/1.2.3
17.08.2009 08:37:46 Data directory: H:\BOINC-Data


It can be hidden, so open any folder in Windows
(e.g. My Computer) and from the Tools menu choose Folder Options ...
In View tab select "* Show hidden files and folders".


Install and run BoincLogX.
Right click BoincLogX icon in System Tray and choose "Setup BoincLogX"
Click Add
Navigate to Your BOINC Data folder (Last click is On it - Not inside it)
Click OK

Now in Setup window you will see something like this:
[v] C:\..................\BOINC Data

(in my case it is H:\BOINC-Data - I chose this folder manually during install of BOINC Manager)

Click OK

Now it should work -
left-click on BoincLogX icon in System Tray to see this.

Or Right click and choose Overall view to see all tasks (not yet processed).

You have to wait for some tasks to complete before you can see some "history".

Now (if not already) you can install SetiMapView by the same author to see the results "in the sky" :)

BoincLogX have to run all the time so it can collect data monitoring the files in BOINC Data folder and creating his own logs.

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3603) Questions and Answers : Windows : Artemis Trojan (Message 927625)
Posted 21 Aug 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Today I ran a full scan of my system using McAfee and it detected the subject Trojan in the AP_GRAPHICS_5.03_WINDOWS_INTELX86.exe file.

What does this file do?

I am running the current version of BOINC.

The file has been quarantined. If I download BOINC again I don't believe it will replace the current installed BOINC as they are the same Version.

Has anybody seen anything similar?

Suggestions?



Please, report this obviously wrong identification (false positive) to McAfee
- they have to correct this (if not already)!

(this file is part of SETI@home project (auto downloaded) - Not part of BOINC)

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3604) Questions and Answers : Windows : Problem with my BOINC manager in vista? (Message 923188)
Posted 2 Aug 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
well, i do have 3 computer, 1- intel and 2 - amd,, recently i joined again to this project, si i am running this from mu laptop, so you guys say that i should wait till tomorrow ?

well, what about this erros:


02.08.2009 18:25:31 SETI@home [error] Signature verification failed for setiathome_6.03_windows_intelx86.exe

02.08.2009 18:25:31 SETI@home [error] Checksum or signature error for setiathome_6.03_windows_intelx86.exe


does it means that i do have problems with some installation of the program or how could i do it?



I think some Internet service providers change the files during download -
try enabling:

BOINC Manager -> Advanced (menu) -> Preferences -> network usage -> Skip image file verification


Or your internet connection may perform erratically?

Do you have similar errors when downloading files from other sites, e.g. installation .exe files, .pdf, .zip ...
3605) Questions and Answers : Windows : Only using 2 of 4 cores (Message 922929)
Posted 1 Aug 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
These are my (web) settings:

On multiprocessors, use at most ___ 16 processors
On multiprocessors, use at most ___ 100 % of the processors
Use at most ____________________ 100 percent of CPU time

3606) Message boards : Number crunching : config xml (Message 922928)
Posted 1 Aug 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
No I did not edit the app_info file and I apologise for suggesting that you are using Linux. Can this matter now be classified as closed please.



If you want this thread to be closed you can do it as you are the "master" of this theme (you started it).

Just go to the top of this page and click the button:

[My question was answered]
"If your question has been adequately answered please click here to close it!"


:)
3607) Message boards : Number crunching : config xml (Message 922923)
Posted 1 Aug 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I know where my boinc data file is place, you are using Linux I am using windows so this is where things are put
01/08/2009 06:33:54 Data directory: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC.
This is my last answer on this subject. Can this message be stuck so that no one can reply to it please.



No, you are wrong - I am using Windows (98 SE, Vista),
(You can see this by clicking on my name (BilBg) and View my Computers)

but I placed the BOINC Data directory where I want it to be
during the installation of BOINC (Advanced button).

Linux uses different looking paths like:
/usr/local
/etc/passwd
/mnt/cdrom
...


P.S.
I see you are using optimized apps so you probably edited the app_info.xml yourself.

Your computer is:
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.93GHz
Microsoft Windows XP
Home x86 Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00)

(so it's easy to see the same info for my comps)

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3608) Message boards : Number crunching : config xml (Message 922911)
Posted 1 Aug 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I agree I do not know what I am doing, that is why I ask question. there are certain things I do know and need to expand my knowledge not being got out by certain people. If I do not ask questions how will I learn things.


Did you know the difference wordpad - notepad?
If yes - why did you make many people to write long explanations about this simple thing?

As Ageless said -
if you want to know more about cc_config.xml go to
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration

read it,

Then use notepad to create cc_config.xml as you like it
and put it in your BOINC Data directory

Then "To use it either go Advanced->Read config file, or exit and restart BOINC. (Ageless)"


Where is BOINC Data directory on your system you can find at the few first lines in the Messages tab.

On one of my computers it is C:\Programs.Vis\BOINC-Data :

29/07/2009 14:36:27 Starting BOINC client version 6.6.36 for windows_intelx86
29/07/2009 14:36:27 log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
29/07/2009 14:36:27 Libraries: libcurl/7.19.4 OpenSSL/0.9.8j zlib/1.2.3
29/07/2009 14:36:27 Data directory: C:\Programs.Vis\BOINC-Data


On my 2 other computers it is:
H:\BOINC-Data
D:\Programs.98\Science\BOINC-Data


Ageless - "It is for Advanced Users only."

gizbar - "But be aware, you can break stuff if you don't have a clue what you're doing."

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3609) Message boards : Number crunching : config xml (Message 922903)
Posted 1 Aug 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I have often read people asking about this file and I was wondering where it is or what it does. I agree I do not know much so I was asking as a newbie in these sort of things were was it and what it does. So can I put this file in my c:\documents and settings\all users\application data\boinc\ and will it change anything. I will be using notepad to copy your file if you do not mind.



"...and will it change anything."
- YES, but maybe not the way you want it

"...to copy your file..."
- Why?! What do you want to do exactly?
Do not copy - use only what you REALLY NEED.

"sorry meant wordpad ............... I have always used notepad ..."

[B^S] madmac,
From your posts it seems to me you don't know what you are doing
- if many people talk about Dynamite does it mean you have to find "it" and put it under your bed?

3610) Questions and Answers : Windows : Computer hangs (Message 922888)
Posted 1 Aug 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Use Core Temp
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
to check the Temperatures of the CPU Cores


P.S.

"... now putting out graphs ...":

The graphs (screen saver or show graphics button) are just for your amusement
- they do not help in any way for the actual computations


3611) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : CPU / GPU mixed processing problem (Message 920922)
Posted 24 Jul 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:


I'm using BOINC v6.6.31. (I should have included this in my "Setup" description. My bad.)

Actually, it sounds like I should've stuck with 6.4.X then, NOT "an upgrade" to the more-current 6.6.xx versions that separate them out!

Due to my "staying current" I have now created MORE work for ME to manage my queue manually with Reschedule7....



BOINC v6.6.31 has a BUG
- when you exit BOINC Manager it does not exit (shutdown) the connected client (BOINC.exe).

I suggest you to upgrade to v6.6.36

If you want to you can also downgrade to 6.4.7 from here:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php
3612) Message boards : Number crunching : Optimised apps (Message 920218)
Posted 22 Jul 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.

I can't find the answers...

1. How much a speedup can I expect?
2. How many bad results can I expect?
3. 2 Quads in a Supermicro Chassis. So many fans, you can hear the noise from the floor above. I guess the question is.... Will these things melt? If they do, I'm in soooo much trouble.
4. Will a reb00t be required after installing these?
5. If I install the apps, then restart BOINC, will it use the apps for the WUs in progress?
6. How easy can a guy screw these up?



You can try Lunatics' Unified Installer (the easy way to the Optimized SETI Applications) (I use it myself):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54288
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9


1. 150-300% for CPU tasks
2. 0% (the same as with "standard" apps - but if you overclock too much expect 1-100% compute errors)
3. I don't think there will be more than 5% increase of the heat "production"
4. No. Exit BOINC Manager, check in Windows Task Manager that there are no running SETI apps - then start Lunatics' Unified Installer.
5. Yes
6. If you choose wrong apps in the Lunatics' Unified Installer

(
use CPU-Z
http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
to find out what your CPU can do (SSE .... SSE4.2) - then choose the proper apps in the Installer
(Intel/AMD, the highest SSEx.x the CPU can do for the fastest computation)

(You have 6 computers - run CPU-Z on every one of them - they have different CPUs with different instruction sets)
)


Use Core Temp
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
to check the Temperatures of the CPU Cores

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3613) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : CPU / GPU mixed processing problem (Message 920196)
Posted 22 Jul 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
In the BOINC Manager, Tasks tab, Application column - what is the version of downloaded MB WUs - 6.03 (CPU) or 6.08 (GPU)?


You can try "ReSchedule" (I can't - I have no CUDA GPU):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54447&nowrap=true#913445
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54491#914554
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54502&nowrap=true#914873


You can try also Lunatics' Unified Installer (the easy way to the Optimized SETI Applications):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54288
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9


To make the BOINC Manager to download more tasks change the preferences:
"Additional work buffer": 10 days
3614) Questions and Answers : Windows : Task sorting (Message 920189)
Posted 22 Jul 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Normally tasks are sorted and run in the order that they are received. When I noticed some running at high priority, i resorted by deadline. Now is there any way to get back to the original first-in-first-out sorting. Stopping and restarting Boinc didnt do it. Thanks


Sorting by any column in BOINC Manager does NOT change the order in which tasks are computed so you did nothing wrong if you resorted by deadline.

Do it any time you want, resort by any column - this will not make BOINC Manager to enter high priority mode or exit it, this just changes the order you see the tasks on the screen.

3615) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lunatics' Unified Installer (Optimized SETI) (Message 918547)
Posted 16 Jul 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

New version released:

Lunatics' Unified Installer v0.2

"
combined Win32 (for Intel or AMD - SSE and higher) Installer.
ADDED: AstroPulse 5.05
UPDATED: Cuda DLL's to V2.2
UPDATED: CudaMBv12 VLarKill
UPDATED: Cuda warnings
"

http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9


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3616) Questions and Answers : Windows : Errors Uploading data (Message 918215)
Posted 15 Jul 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

100Megabit shared for both uploads and downloads.


This is only about [30 uploads (20-40 KB) + 30 downloads (350 KB)]/s

With the increasing number of CUDA capable computers which compute one MB task for ~1000 seconds this bandwidth can serve for only 30*1000 = 30 000 CUDA hosts!

The SETI@home has at least 300 000 active hosts (~3 000 000 registered) so nowadays they need 3-10 times bigger bandwidth - 1000 Mbit.


What will this cost? ($$$)

If this is not resolved many will leave the project.

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3617) Questions and Answers : Windows : Errors Uploading data (Message 918155)
Posted 15 Jul 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I can't understand why SETI@home have in general more problems on upload than on download server if the size of uploaded result (MultiBeam) is ~ 30/300 KB = 10% of the downloaded WorkUnit.

What is the bandwidth of upload & download servers?

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3618) Questions and Answers : Windows : 如果某台个人计算机搜寻到特定的电波,并且确认是外星人的电波,那么这台计算机的主人à (Message 917779)
Posted 15 Jul 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm probably looking at this too simplistically, but from Google translate I got.

"If a personal computer search to a specific radio wave, and wave to confirm an alien, then the owner of this computer any good? To participate in the Fifth Kind"

I got the impression the person was asking if their computer was up to the task.



And I got the impression that he asks what he will benefit if his computer finds alien signal ("Participates in the fifth kind of contact?" (ironical?))

[Close Encounters of the Third Kind - Steven Spielberg]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_Encounters_of_the_Third_Kind

...

The last post:
我现在还没搞明白这个活动到底是怎么一回事,应该有中文的活动说明吧

Google translate:
I now understand that not engaging in activities in the end this is how one thing, there should be Chinese activities illustrate (???!!!)

http://babelfish.yahoo.com :
I have not done now understood how this activity is the identical, should have Chinese program description (!???!)


Can you translate this from "English" to English? ;)

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3619) Questions and Answers : Windows : 如果某台个人计算机搜寻到特定的电波,并且确认是外星人的电波,那么这台计算机的主人à (Message 917749)
Posted 15 Jul 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.cn :
我现在还没搞明白这个活动到底是怎么一回事,应该有中文的活动说明吧


.bg :
Ти като пишеш на китайски аз пък да взема да ти отговоря на български ;) ?
Кво ша каиш, а!

.us :
If you write in ... 明白现在中文一回...???...
I will write in АБВГДЕЖЗИЙКЛМНОПРСТУФХЦЧШЩЪЬЮЯ (Bulgarian) ;)

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3620) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lunatics' Unified Installer (Optimized SETI) (Message 915287)
Posted 7 Jul 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Downloads of the Lunatics' Unified Installer (32 bit) reached >2000 but now it is marked
[Obsolete v0.1] Win32 Lunatics' Unified Installer FINAL BETA
because of the new version of Astropulse 5.05

You can get the new
Astropulse 5.05 Win32 rev 168 SSE w/5.03
Astropulse 5.05 Win32 rev 168 SSE3 w/5.03
and install it manually ...

or wait for the new version of Unified Installer.


The "normal" way to get Optimized (for Windows) is:

Go to:
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/

click "Downloads" (at Top-Left)
click "1 - Windows Seti@Home apps"
pick what you need

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3621) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lunatics' Unified Installer (Optimized SETI) (Message 912592)
Posted 29 Jun 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

:)

Downloads of the Lunatics' Unified Installer (32 bit)
reached 1800 (+300 for 6 days)

:)
3622) Questions and Answers : Windows : Remote Desktop (Message 911227)
Posted 25 Jun 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

What about TeamViewer ?

http://www.teamviewer.com/

(I never tried any Remote Desktop utils)



I tried it and think TeamViewer is very good.

I connected to my daughter's computer (from Varna to Sofia - Bulgaria, 500 km).

The response is about 0.5 - 1 second delay (between click and the time I see the result of it).

I don't know will it be any difference when the 7 day Trial period is over and the program begin to work in freeware mode.

Connecting is easy (no need for IP address or Windows passwords)
- the program generates ID (9 digits) & session pass
(4 digits to 10 chars - depends on how you set it in options)
which has to be told to the other side (by e.g. phone or Skype)

There is also option for permanent password.

The connection is secure - info from the web site:
http://www.teamviewer.com/products/security.aspx

"
Encryption

TeamViewer includes full encryption, based on RSA private-/public key exchange and AES (256 Bit) session encoding. This technology is based on the same standards as https/SSL and is considered completely safe by today's standards.

The key exchange also guarantees a full client-to-client data protection. This means that even our routing servers will not be able to read the data stream.
"

"free for non-commercial, personal use"

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3623) Questions and Answers : Windows : Remote Desktop (Message 910671)
Posted 24 Jun 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What about TeamViewer ?

http://www.teamviewer.com/

(I never tried any Remote Desktop utils)
3624) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lunatics' Unified Installer (Optimized SETI) (Message 910034)
Posted 22 Jun 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Typically getting Optimized Seti Applications to run has not always been easy.
What you are stating is, the work of many has helped to make that easier.




Yes,
I decided to inform (in separate thread) those using or willing to use Optimized Seti Applications that now they can do it easier.

In the past year I had to manually install newer Optimized apps several times
and it took me 30-40 minutes every time to do all the steps carefully.


I think the "wizards" who make these Optimized Seti Applications
will be glad if more people benefit from their hard work ...


3625) Questions and Answers : Windows : Work units are too large (Message 910027)
Posted 22 Jun 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:


No more need to know where the BOINC Data folder is -

use "Lunatics' Unified Installer"


For more details Look:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54288


.

Only if you are installing optimized applications. There is still a need to know where it is for other operations.



For ease of access I don't use the default locations -
I install to:
C:\BOINC
C:\BOINC-Data


I think that if BOINC is reinstalled and the folders are Changed manually,
the installer will move all the files to the new folders
(so no work will be lost and the BOINC-Data will be easily accessible)
3626) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lunatics' Unified Installer (Optimized SETI) (Message 909994)
Posted 22 Jun 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:


There are many posts/threads asking:

How can I use Optimized apps?
Where is this elusive BOINC Data folder?
How do I make app_info.xml file?


Obviously many people reading and posting to this forum want to use Optimized SETI apps
but find it hard and time consuming to do it by hand.

Very few know about the Unified Installer ...


P.S.
OzzFan: "(I hate it when people post the same thing separately!)":
Sorry for that -
First post was in the other (Astro... something) thread;
Than I decided the subject to be important and started new thread ...

3627) Questions and Answers : Windows : Work units are too large (Message 909985)
Posted 22 Jun 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:


No more need to know where the BOINC Data folder is -

use "Lunatics' Unified Installer"


For more details Look:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54288


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3628) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lunatics' Unified Installer (Optimized SETI) (Message 909978)
Posted 22 Jun 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I decided to start new thread to discuss this great product.



For me "Lunatics' Unified Installer" by Jason G (Thanks Jason!) is just amazing -
- it saves a lot of handwork when you want to install Optimized SETI apps.

I will recommend to anyone to use it.

It is a pity that there are only ~1500 Downloads till now.






{ Guess who is behind the window :) }



The name of the file is:
Lunatics_Win32v0.1_AP503r112_AKv8b_CudaV11.exe (4 MB)

(All You Need is this file)


It contains latest versions of All Win32 (SSE, ..., SSE4.1) Optimized SETI apps - MB, AP, CUDA.
(They compute MUCH faster (150% - 250%) than "standard" apps)

You can use any combination your CPU/GPU supports.
(e.g. SSE3 for AP, SSE4.1 for MB - use CPU-Z freeware utility to check what is Max SSE... your CPU can do)

You only need to select the options shown on the screen-shot above -
the Installer "knows" where your BOINC installation is.

It "generates" the .exe files and "app_info.xml" file and puts them where they should be.



Get the "Lunatics' Unified Installer" from:

http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;sa=dlview;id=184

(Click on [Mirror 1] to Download)


Before starting the "Lunatics' Unified Installer" exit BOINC
and check in Windows Task Manager that there are NO running SETI apps



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3629) Questions and Answers : Windows : Astropulse v5.5.03 (Message 909975)
Posted 22 Jun 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:

...
Another thing to do is get the lunatics unified installer. This will get your gpu and CPU playing nicely together.



"Lunatics' Unified Installer" by Jason G (Thanks Jason!) is amazing -
- it saves a lot of handwork when you want to install Optimized SETI apps.

I will recommend to anyone to use it.

It is a pity that there are only ~1500 Downloads till now.






{ Guess who is behind the window :) }



The name of the file is:
Lunatics_Win32v0.1_AP503r112_AKv8b_CudaV11.exe (4 MB)

(All You Need is this file)


It contains latest versions of All Win32 (SSE, ..., SSE4.1) Optimized SETI apps - MB, AP, CUDA.
(They compute MUCH faster (150% - 250%) than "standard" apps)

You can use any combination your CPU/GPU supports.
(e.g. SSE3 for AP, SSE4.1 for MB - use CPU-Z freeware utility to check what is Max SSE... your CPU can do)

You only need to select the options shown on the screen-shot above -
the Installer "knows" where your BOINC installation is.

It "generates" the .exe files and "app_info.xml" file and puts them where they should be.



Get the "Lunatics' Unified Installer" from:

http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;sa=dlview;id=184

(Click on [Mirror 1] to Download)


Before starting the "Lunatics' Unified Installer" exit BOINC
and check in Windows Task Manager that there are NO running SETI apps



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3630) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC 6.X.X on Multi-Boot Windows system (Message 866742)
Posted 18 Feb 2009 by Profile BilBg
Post:



BOINC 6.X.X on Multi-Boot Windows system


I have WinXP, Vista & Vista64 (3 OSes) system.

When I used BOINC 5.10.45 (which keeps all files in one X:\BOINC directory)
it was easy to run One BOINC installation when I boot any Windows -
just put shortcut to X:\BOINC\boincmgr.exe in StartUp (or run it manually)
so it computes the same WUs no matter which Win I boot.

(I installed on Vista and made shortcuts manually in WinXP & Vista64)


Now that BOINC 6.X.X is separated in two directories, in my case
X:\BOINC
X:\BOINC-Data
this does not work anymore - if I start X:\BOINC\boincmgr.exe
is says "You are not attached to any project".


Is it possible to do this kind of Multi-Boot usage with BOINC 6.X.X ?

Maybe some kind of RegEdit?


3631) Questions and Answers : Windows : Transferring work units? (Message 747956)
Posted 4 May 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.
I don't feel any performance increase and also think it will damage the Flash Memory if used for months.
But why than Microsoft decided to "invent" this??!
Do they think the ReadyBoost is safe for Flash Memory sticks?


I think their intent was to make Vista easier to run on older systems with 1GB of RAM or less. Since flash drives are easily removed, they can't really use it for much more than temporary storage that could be gone at any moment.

I also think its just for marketing too.

I can't recall what is "SuperFetch"?


In all previous Microsoft Operating Systems, the OS (and any startup apps) used whatever RAM they needed and the rest just sat there, taking up electricity but not actually holding anything useful. So if you had 3GB of RAM and your system only needed 700MB after startup, you'd hvae 2.3GB of RAM doing nothing but taking up electricity.

SuperFetch makes use of all that "extra" RAM by caching frequently used programs and data into RAM for faster system performance. SuperFetch will also try to anticipate when you use an application most and try to keep portions of that code in RAM more often. If at any moment you need this RAM used by SuperFetch, the OS will simply mark the cache as invalid and return it to the system pool for use by other applications. This allows all that extra RAM to actually do something useful for system performance, but it also means that Vista runs best with at least 2GB of RAM or more. Some people consider this a "resource hog", but with the prices of RAM so cheap these days, I think its a good investment to increase your RAM for better performance.



ReadyBoost: One more thing - the USB 2.0 is 40 MB/s (if I recall right).
So the USB Flash Memory can't be faster than HDD page file.

SuperFetch: Is it ON by default?
Is it useful on 1 GB system?
I'm not sure what's the difference from normal disk caching (which exists from DOS times)?


P.S.
Hey, Martian :|, say something!
Will you make LAN or what?
(I think you've done something to use your 2 computers -
they are attached to project on 1 & 2 May 2008)

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3632) Questions and Answers : Windows : Transferring work units? (Message 746605)
Posted 1 May 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.
.

This process has been suggested before, and it technically works. The only problem is that BOINC writes to it's client_state.xml file nearly every second (or was that every minute), and with limited write cycles of flash drives, they can be figuratively "chewed" up in less than (or about) a year's time. As a long-term solution, I wouldn't recommend this either.




What about Vista's "ReadyBoost" - it uses the USB flash memory for page file
and writes to it almost continuously (on 1 GB RAM system)

.


Let's just say I'm not a big fan of ReadyBoost, and nearly every review I've seen that examines ReadyBoost shows that the performance increase in practically nil. I think Vista's SuperFetch is a much more worthwhile technology. ;-)



I don't use ReadyBoost either -
I don't feel any performance increase and also think it will damage the Flash Memory if used for months.
But why than Microsoft decided to "invent" this??!
Do they think the ReadyBoost is safe for Flash Memory sticks?

I can't recall what is "SuperFetch"?

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3633) Questions and Answers : Windows : CPU utilization (Message 746591)
Posted 1 May 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.

I'm not insisting on adding the CPU temperature features in BOINC.

I just say it is possible for some processors to read their core
temperature without the need of motherboard sensors knowledge.

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3634) Questions and Answers : Windows : CPU utilization (Message 746590)
Posted 1 May 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.

Still, I'm rather "old school" and I'd rather use an external gauge instead of one based on software, but that's just me.




So I'm "ancient school" (born 1960) and Deep Purple, Rainbow, Pink Floyd, Queen, Dire Straits ... fan :)


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3635) Questions and Answers : Windows : Transferring work units? (Message 746585)
Posted 1 May 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.

This process has been suggested before, and it technically works. The only problem is that BOINC writes to it's client_state.xml file nearly every second (or was that every minute), and with limited write cycles of flash drives, they can be figuratively "chewed" up in less than (or about) a year's time. As a long-term solution, I wouldn't recommend this either.




What about Vista's "ReadyBoost" - it uses the USB flash memory for page file
and writes to it almost continuously (on 1 GB RAM system)

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3636) Questions and Answers : Windows : Transferring work units? (Message 746573)
Posted 1 May 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.
Anyone knows if/how I can transfer work units from 1 PC to an other PC? only the second PC has internet access. so i want to use it to fetch units and transfer them to the first PC - when work is done I transfer them back to the second in order to upload them. Howevr, both PCs will be working on seperate units...

any ideas?



I have another idea:
what about installing BOINC on flash USB memory
which can be moved from one PC to another.

1) Put the USB memory stick in the USB port of PC-1 (Internet)

2) Exit the running BOINC
3) Rename the shortcuts "BOINC Manager" on the Desktop and in "StartUp" folder (in Start menu) to "BOINC PC-1"

4) Install (new) BOINC to USB memory (e.g. in X:\\BOINC)
5) Rename the (new) shortcut "BOINC Manager" on the Desktop to "BOINC PC-2",
Delete the (new) shortcut "BOINC Manager" from "StartUp" folder (in Start menu);

6) Set your "Computing preferences" on the

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global

to

Computer is connected to the Internet about every - 10 days
Maintain enough work for an additional - 10 days

7) Start (double-click) "BOINC PC-2", attach to the project
and wait 5-20 minutes for it to download workunits
8) Exit the running BOINC
9) Use "Safely remove hardware" icon (in the Systray)
10) Get the USB memory stick from the USB port of PC-1 (Internet)
11) Run the "BOINC PC-1"

Go to PC-2

12) Put the USB memory stick in the USB port of PC-2
13) DON't install BOINC on PC-2
14) Go to the BOINC folder on USB memory stick (e.g. Z:\\BOINC)
15) Manually make shortcut to "BOINC Manager" ("boincmgr.exe" - Send To -> Desktop)
16) Start the new shortcut (and copy it to StartUp folder)

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3637) Questions and Answers : Windows : CPU utilization (Message 746565)
Posted 1 May 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.

Well, a couple things to mention is that page you link to is only good for Intel Core architecture CPUs and AMD K8/K10 CPUs, which severely limits it to only the newer processors. This project has such a large range of CPUs that programming something like this into BOINC would only benefit newer CPU owners and would be of little use to everyone else.

Further, it states that the sensor is digital and that a value is stored in a register, but it does not show the instruction for retrieving that value from that register, nor are there any instructions that I'm aware of that would do so. I'd have to study up on my newer instruction sets to be certain.

Its great if they did add this feature, but it does little for 95% of the active crunchers who are still using Pentium IIIs, Pentium 4s, Athlon XPs and Athlon 64s.



I think Athlon 64 is K8 -
Core Temp works on my
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+ [x86 Family 15 Model 95 Stepping 2]
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3638) Questions and Answers : Windows : Transferring work units? (Message 746465)
Posted 1 May 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.
Anyone knows if/how I can transfer work units from 1 PC to an other PC? only the second PC has internet access. so i want to use it to fetch units and transfer them to the first PC - when work is done I transfer them back to the second in order to upload them. Howevr, both PCs will be working on seperate units...

any ideas?


Can't you do this:
If the 2 PCs are near to each other you can make LAN and share the internet connection so both PCs will have internet.

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3639) Questions and Answers : Windows : CPU utilization (Message 746455)
Posted 1 May 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.
Bil: One of the Everest developers told me
(on Lavalys Discussion Forum > Lavalys EVEREST > Hardware monitoring > What is CPU Diode temperature?)
that (modern) CPUs with internal CPU Diode have instruction which returns "CPU Diode temperature"
even if the motherboard has no sensor chip!
(like CPUID instruction returns the CPU name, etc.)

Look at the end of this page:

http://www.lavalys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=494


OzzFan: Can Fiery support his/her claim? Most developers don't work at the hardware level. Is Fiery certain that the temperature is being read directly from the CPU diode or is it still accessed through the motherboard without Fiery's knowledge? Can Fiery show documentation on how this is achieved?

All the x86 instructions I've seen do not support software to be able to access the thermal diode directly; only hardware solutions such as thermal monitoring chips which have the correct circuitry to access the proper information, which can then be accessed by the software via the circuitry's supporting instruction set, which can vary with each revision or newly discovered methodologies.

The only instruction I've seen that CPUs support is simply one that tells the software if the CPU supports thermal monitoring, but not a direct reading of exactly what temperature the CPU is at.




Look also this:

http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/howitworks.html


"The temperature readings are very accurate as the data is collected from a Digital Thermal Sensor (or DTS) which is located in each individual processing core, near the hottest part. This sensor is digital, which means it doesn't rely on an external circuit located on the motherboard to report temperature, its value is stored in a special register in the processor so any software can access and read it. This eliminates any inaccuracy that can be caused by external motherboard circuits and sensors and then different types of programs trying to read those sensors."

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3640) Questions and Answers : Windows : Core 2 Duo E8400 slower than Core 2 Duo E4400 :S (Message 731116)
Posted 27 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The temperature in the bios is around 90 degrees
In the Asus AI Suite 1.01.19 is at 99 degrees.
In Everest Ultimate Edition 4.20.1170 it's saying 99 degrees (210 F) and 103 for the first core and 104! for the second core.
I can not touch the back of my motherboard without unscrewing and unplug everything. When i touch the heatsink it's hot but i can leave my fingers on it without getting burned since there is not a lot of contact... i can touch only the edge of the metal plates. The rest is protected by a plastic cover.

For the swap file, the initial one is 2046 Mo and the maximum size is 4092.
I have 2 gig of ram.

I stoped the Boinc and now the cpu is at 63-64 degrees... CPU is used between 0 and 5% without BOINC running.



So - what happened with this HOT CPU?


Is this your cooler?:

Cooler Master Hyper TX2 & 212 (bit-tech.net review)

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3641) Questions and Answers : Windows : no screen saver graphics (Message 730880)
Posted 27 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I'm running Vista 64.
I did not choose to install BOINC as a service.
UAC is off.
I'm using my own account not the administrator account.
BOINC's path is C:\\Program Files\\BOINC.
The screensaver does not work on my system.
I just get the BOINC logo.

Hopefully this will work when v6 comes out.



Strangely the screensaver started to work after I installed an optimized application (on Vista32)

http://calbe.dw70.de/winx64.html


(I use "2.4V Windows x32 SSE2 AMD+GFX" for my CPU/OS)
It is about 15-20% faster than standard app.

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3642) Questions and Answers : Windows : Client error Compute error ????? (Message 727939)
Posted 19 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:
(Part of my letter to SpeedFan author:)

I've found one adverse effect of SpeedFan:

When the Monitor/Video sleep (Not the computer - only Monitor)
SpeedFan uses too much CPU time (for whatever reason).

I know this because BOINC/SETI (Low priority process)
almost stop computing when Monitor/Video sleep.

If I exit SpeedFan there is no such effect.


I can check this 2 ways:

1) after long (Monitor) sleep there is almost no change of the % of work done;
2) I can observe the execution from another computer on LAN (by BoincLogX utility)


This would be a very serious problem for speedfan if true. However I have speedfan running on 6 computers 24/7 and have not seen this problem occuring. All my computers running Windows XP SP2 of course.




Do you have this picture when Monitor/Video WakeUp:
(as you can see when Monitor/Video sleep reading is 0 deg C)
(the GPU/VideoRAM MHz are: normal - 144/185 (Overclock), sleep - 0.84/0.84; - as seen in RivaTuner Hardware Monitoring)
(When Everest is running it wakes up the GPU (after only 10 sec of sleeping) to 144 MHz and vRAM to 6 MHz)






The Sensor chip:






The Test System (Everest info):

Computer:
Operating System - Microsoft Windows 98 SE
Internet Explorer - 6.0.2800.1106 (IE 6.0 SP1)
DirectX - 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)

Motherboard:
CPU Type - AMD K6-2+, 500 MHz (5 x 100)
Motherboard Name - Shuttle HOT-591P (3 ISA, 3 PCI, 1 AGP, 2 SIMM, 2 DIMM)
Motherboard Chipset - VIA VT82C598 Apollo MVP3
System Memory - 256 MB (SDRAM)
BIOS Type - Award Modular (03/27/01)

Display:
Video Adapter - NVIDIA GeForce 256 (Omega 9M 1.4523)
3D Accelerator - nVIDIA GeForce 256

Graphics Processor Properties:
Video Adapter - Asus AGP-V6600MX
GPU Code Name - NV10 (AGP 4x 10DE / 0100, Rev 10)
GPU Clock - 144 MHz
Memory Clock - 185 MHz

Sensor Properties:
GPU Sensor Type - Winbond W83781D (NV-I2C 2Dh)
Video Adapter - Asus V Series

Temperatures:
GPU - 47 °C (117 °F)
GPU - Memory 35 °C (95 °F)

Cooling Fans:
GPU - 5592 RPM

Voltage Values:
GPU Core - 2.96 V
GPU Vcc - 3.39 V
GPU AGP VDDQ - 3.39 V


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3643) Questions and Answers : Windows : Core 2 Duo E8400 slower than Core 2 Duo E4400 :S (Message 727620)
Posted 18 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The temperature in the bios is around 90 degrees
In the Asus AI Suite 1.01.19 is at 99 degrees.
In Everest Ultimate Edition 4.20.1170 it's saying 99 degrees (210 F) and 103 for the first core and 104! for the second core.
I can not touch the back of my motherboard without unscrewing and unplug everything. When i touch the heatsink it's hot but i can leave my fingers on it without getting burned since there is not a lot of contact... i can touch only the edge of the metal plates. The rest is protected by a plastic cover.

For the swap file, the initial one is 2046 Mo and the maximum size is 4092.
I have 2 gig of ram.

I stoped the Boinc and now the cpu is at 63-64 degrees... CPU is used between 0 and 5% without BOINC running.


Your CPU is far to hot even without Boinc running. Do not run Boinc again until you find out why. Check the mounting of the cpu heatsink and fan assy. Something is not right. If you have a friend who has experience with installing heatsink and fan assy's then have him double check your work. Get a second opinion from someone.


I had this problem on my Asus AMD K7 mainboard, I bought the board because it had a C.O.P. system in it, meaning when the heat is over 78C it will shutdown to protect the core.

I did a series of upgrades on my mainboard, BIOS flashes, very easy to do, if you know what your doing, Asus uses a tool to download your BIOS and installs it live on the system, system will have to boot again. Upgraded the system from x.1.08 to x.1.15, the temp. went down to 48C and never gone to 60C again.
Another thing to take into account, is livingspace of the PC, don't ever leave your sytem in to a to small box or place your system with the output or intake fan to a wall. Even the pc needs too breath now and than..:)

Try to get the airflow right into your system, minitower have minimal requirements for a airflow. Big and High tower systems has to have extra fans in them, the heat has to go out of the system. Placing the system right beside a heater or on the ground is not the best thing to do. If placed on the ground, you will attract dust, dust is your worst enemy in to the battle to keep your system cool! Dust goes in to your heatsink, fans and blocks in- and external ports. My system is cleaned every 4 months, I remove dust on the fans and between the heatsink.

The best tip is already given to you, buy a very good heatsink with a fan with a variable RPM between the 2000 RPM and 5000 RPM. is will cost approx. €79 or $120, depending on where you live. The most fans are very quit now.

John mentioned a virus, could be a problem too, never heard that the virus cause a heat problem before, but it can explain the workload/heat on your pc.

Before you go cruching again for BOINC, solve your heat problem first! Your CPU will get 'a burnout' if continued! It will cost you a lot of money when this happens.



"... never heard that the virus cause a heat problem before, but it can explain the workload/heat on your pc ..."

No, it's not a virus - 90 deg C in BIOS! And 64 at 0-5% load!
I can say that in BIOS temp. is higher because in Win the SpeedStep is working -
Look: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpeedStep

- at low CPU usage it lowers the Voltage and Frequency of the CPU to cool it.
What are the Voltage and Frequency of the CPU at low CPU usage?

"buy a very good heatsink" - he just did

"dust is your worst enemy" - yes but the system is new

"Upgraded the system from x.1.08 to x.1.15, the temp. went down to 48C and never gone to 60C again" -
It can be the case if the CPU is not recognized right and Voltage is set too high.

Can you ([AF>HFR] kleudde) give the values of Voltages & Frequency in BIOS/Asus/Everest?
(at high and low load of the CPU)
Give the RPM of the fan also.

If you can - make photos of heatsink from different angles and show them here.

Does your new heatsink have thermal pad or did you applied thermal paste underneath?
(it has to be applied on thin - not thick - layer)

"I can not touch the back of my motherboard without unscrewing and unplug everything" -
try to touch the metal just behind (under) the CPU - how warm is it?

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3644) Questions and Answers : Windows : Core 2 Duo E8400 slower than Core 2 Duo E4400 :S (Message 727255)
Posted 17 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I now installed a different fan but still my cpu is always running at 98-99 degrees celsius. I see my E8400 running at 2GHz most of the time and sometimes it will jump to 3 GHz for a couple of second and go back to 2 GHz :(



Where do you look for temperature readings?
In BIOS, in util from Asus (SmartDoctor?), in Everest, ...?
Or you have hardware solution?

What is the temperature if you stop BOINC/SETI and CPU usage is 1-5%?

What is the temperature feeling if you touch the heatsink?
And if you touch the bottom of the mainboard under the CPU?
(If it is really 99 deg CELSIUS be careful not to burn your fingers!)

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3645) Questions and Answers : Windows : Client error Compute error ????? (Message 727252)
Posted 17 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:

(I, Bil:)

Try SpeedFan (freeware) to check the temperatures and voltages.
As the case is open you can touch here and there inside to check
(just remove your watch and ring before you do)


Do you have problems with other CPU intensive programs?
(you can try Everest - System Stability Test
or run some 3D Mark test/demo)

"Case is actually open" but how much dust is in there?
(use weak vacuum and soft hair (not synthetic) brush
to clean the dust - of course shutdown and unplug first)

Maybe your cat plays inside :) (and likes to bite the wires)
(use strong light and look inside - maybe something is loose
or capacitors are bulged and/or leaking)

.



(Part of my letter to SpeedFan author:)

I've found one adverse effect of SpeedFan:

When the Monitor/Video sleep (Not the computer - only Monitor)
SpeedFan uses too much CPU time (for whatever reason).

I know this because BOINC/SETI (Low priority process)
almost stop computing when Monitor/Video sleep.

If I exit SpeedFan there is no such effect.


I can check this 2 ways:

1) after long (Monitor) sleep there is almost no change of the % of work done;
2) I can observe the execution from another computer on LAN (by BoincLogX utility)
3646) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Optimal function choice (Message 726286)
Posted 14 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.

Can somebody give me a link to the source files of "setiathome_enhanced 5.27"
so I can try to find the answer myself?

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3647) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Web: Average number of results reported per day (Message 725967)
Posted 14 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Amiga Misha:
Wish i knew how to answer your question ......... Hope it helped.




Sorry, I have no question, "I have a dream" ... oops, I just have a wish (what - read my posts above...)


P.S.
Very rare CPU you have (Centaur / VIA Esther processor 1500MHz),
where did you get it?
3648) Questions and Answers : Windows : All completed units lost after boinc colapsed? (Message 724172)
Posted 10 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I've uninstalled and installed a new one and now works ok (trying to connect etc.). The problem is that under previous one had completed over 100 units. I did copy of whole boinc directory before reinstalling but don't know which files I must copy to new boinc folder. For sure sub folder PROJECTS where are all these completed results ready to send back - but for sure has to be something more. Replacing whole boinc folder does not (work freezes again) Please help me. Thx. Adam



What do you mean "under previous one had completed over 100 units"?
"Completed over 100 units" and did not report them?
(if they are reported they are NOT lost)
Or you have 100 WorkUnits downloaded in the cache and not processed yet?


Don't install "a new one" and don't copy manually "Replacing whole boinc folder", install OVER the previous installation (in the same directory)

(Exit the running BOINC first!)
(If you wish make another copy of the precious previous "whole boinc folder")

.
3649) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Web: Average number of results reported per day (Message 724155)
Posted 10 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:


(so people are angry for nothing)
("I return often but have low RAC, they return seldom and have high RAC - HOW IT CAN BE?")

Look e.g.:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=44799

.



Look also this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=44431

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3650) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Participants with excessive work units and excessive No Reply (Message 724139)
Posted 10 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Turn around time depends on several factors, among them:

Size of the cache.
Number of projects attached and the resource shares allocated.
The amount of time the computer spends on.




It has to be noted clearly that "Turn around time" has NO
direct corelation with RAC.

"Size of the cache" has impact on the "Turn around time"
but NOT on the RAC

"Number of projects attached and the resource shares allocated.
The amount of time the computer spends on"
HAVE impact on the RAC.


You can have big ("slow") "Turn around time" AND have good RAC
if your computer:
- is fast (whatever that means)
- works all the time (BOINC is allowed to run 100% of the time using 100% CPU)
- is almost idle all of the time (not running "heavy" apps - i.e. you use it mainly for textprocessing, web browsing, play Solitaire :), etc... )
(some (3D "fancy") screen savers ARE in fact "heavy" apps - if you use them they "eat" CPU time and very often they continue to run after the monitor is asleep and you can't see them)
- you don't "sleep" the computer, only the monitor ("sleeping" computer is of course not working (but the LEDs and (maybe) fans :) ))

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3651) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Web: Average number of results reported per day (Message 724100)
Posted 10 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Add "Average number of results computed/uploaded/reported per day"

That means that all projects should add a database entry telling the number of tasks done. Which is going back to Seti Classic days, where they'd do WU counting, instead of giving credit. BOINC has just gotten rid of the Wu counting, by deleting done work units (or results, or tasks) from the database so to save space and now you want it back in there? ;-)

I don't think it'll happen, but if you truly stand behind it, you can put an enhancement ticket in BOINC Trac with the question. You need to register separately at Trac.




NO, NO, NO, NO

I'm saying
"WEB: Average number of results reported per day"

I mean that on THIS (setiathome.berkeley.edu) site
on "Computer summary" page
(http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=xxxxxxx)
next to the
"Average turnaround time X.xx days"
be
"Average number of results reported per day"

There is no need to keep "work units (or results, or tasks)" in the database.

How they count "Average turnaround time X.xx days"?

If they know how many days in Average (near past) pass
between sending and reporting the same tasks (by the given computer)
they know as well how many results are reported (by the given computer)
in the last few days (or weeks?, or monts?).

So just divide "number of results reported" / days


P.S.
I don't really need this myself
but there is huge misunderstanding on many posts in the forum
what "Average turnaround time X.xx days" really means.

(so people are angry for nothing)
("I return often but have low RAC, they return seldom and have high RAC - HOW IT CAN BE?")

Look e.g.:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=44799

.
3652) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Participants with excessive work units and excessive No Reply (Message 724092)
Posted 10 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.

Turn around time depends mostly on the size of the WU cache -
the more WorkUnits on your computer - the bigger turn around time.

Size of the WU cache depends on your preferences -
"Maintain enough work for an additional [XX] days".

.
3653) Questions and Answers : Windows : CPU utilization (Message 723672)
Posted 9 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:


All the x86 instructions I've seen do not support software to be able to access the thermal diode directly;
.........
The only instruction I've seen that CPUs support is simply one that tells the software if the CPU supports thermal monitoring, but not a direct reading of exactly what temperature the CPU is at.




It's strange why Intel & AMD don't offer such an instruction -
it has to be relatively easy to implement?

Can't it be in the CPUID family?

3654) Questions and Answers : Windows : Client error Compute error ????? (Message 723667)
Posted 9 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:


3) Can you check the CPU temperature? Is it too high?

*****Checked the temp and all seems normal in bios logs and event log of windows. I have thermal readout in my event log from a dell optiplex gx620.

4) When was the last time you opened the case and chased the dust bunnies out?

****Case is actually open now has been for quite some time as I have a small rattle and cant seem to find it.




Try SpeedFan (freeware) to check the temperatures and voltages.
As the case is open you can touch here and there inside to check
(just remove your watch and ring before you do)


Do you have problems with other CPU intensive programs?
(you can try Everest - System Stability Test
or run some 3D Mark test/demo)

"Case is actually open" but how much dust is in there?
(use weak vacuum and soft hair (not synthetic) brush
to clean the dust - of course shutdown and unplug first)

Maybe your cat plays inside :) (and likes to bite the wires)
(use strong light and look inside - maybe something is loose
or capacitors are bulged and/or leaking)

.
3655) Questions and Answers : Windows : Computer Clock back stops BOINC (Message 723647)
Posted 9 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:


a.) Lousy timekeeping in the OS context is a well known Windows trait, as you pointed out in your observation about gaming. As a result, one of the first internet apps folks got back in the 3x-9x days was one to sync up to one of the 'atomic clocks' automatically. This renders the issue almost invisible under most situations, since even the worst RTC I have looses (I don't think I have one which gains time) far less than the 30 second cutoff for causing a 'forced' application exit in the interval between reference time updates.

..............

<edit> Errata in 3a from previous:

The RTC would have to have gained time and then be set back manually for the glitch to appear. Loosing time and then going forward manually doesn't seem to have any adverse effect.

Alinator




As you can guess using sync to 'atomic clocks' automatically reverses the problem -

if you set the clock forward manually but your wall clock is just one minute in the future
(and you set the computer clock accordingly)
when the automatic sync happens it will shift the time one minute back
... and ..... the same problem .....

(I tried 5 minutes forward, waited for the sync -
the effect was the same as if i set it manually back)

(tested on Win98 + FG Time Sync)

3656) Questions and Answers : Windows : Computer Clock back stops BOINC (Message 722582)
Posted 6 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.

Yet another test:

- BOINC/SETI task running
- I set the clock back 10 minutes
- After 31 seconds SETI task exits
- I wait 1-2 minutes - no change (SETI task displays "Running" but really is not)

- I try Snooze - no effect - SETI task displays "Running", not "Suspended"
- I try Snooze Off - SETI task appears to start but exits again quickly

- Than I exit BOINC
- I start BOINC again - it is OK
- I wait 5 minutes to confirm that everything is OK - it is OK.
- I set the clock forward ~10 minutes to the correct wall time - as we know this has no adverse effect on BOINC/SETI



So if you set the clock back (for whatever reasons) more than a few minutes (e.g. 1 hour)
it is advisable that you exit BOINC and start it again - it will start computation immediately;
(else BOINC will wait 1 hour (or whatever) before restarting the SETI task)


But this will not help participants not aware of this BOINC/SETI "feature".

And, as Alinator said:
"if the science app doesn't checkpoint frequently or at all (as is the case for some projects), you could loose some significant processing time."


So .....
"I also think that Carthage should be destroyed." :)

Oops... I meant ... you know

.

3657) Questions and Answers : Windows : Computer Clock back stops BOINC (Message 722569)
Posted 6 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.

I did some more experiments

A) If you turn clock back 28 sec - no restart of BOINC
B) If you turn clock back 31 sec - BOINC stops and restarts almost immediately




I meant of course:

A) If you turn clock back 28 sec - no restart of SETI task
B) If you turn clock back 31 sec - SETI task stops and restarts almost immediately

3658) Questions and Answers : Windows : Noob questions - WU's not completing (Message 722568)
Posted 6 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:
<edit> In any event, I routinely exclude the BOINC folder from all security software nowadays, just to avoid trashing work and wasting my hosts time.

The problem with that is that most freeware and shareware versions of the AV packages don't allow excluding of directories. You need the paid version for that and not everyone pays for their AV.

I don't even have AV. ;-)



I use AVG free on one comp. (Win98) and NOD32 on another (Vista32 & XP).

No excluding of any directories (either resident or on-demand scan).

I didn't have any such problems (for months).

BOINC version is 5.10.30 but I used in the same environments in the past:
boinc_5.8.16_windows_intelx86.exe
boinc_5.10.13_windows_intelx86.exe
boinc_5.10.20_windows_intelx86.exe
boinc_5.10.28_windows_intelx86.exe


3659) Questions and Answers : Windows : Computer Clock back stops BOINC (Message 722535)
Posted 6 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.

Lets return to the point:

First of all: I think that THIS has to be Corrected!


1) Do you consider this behaviour as a Bug?

2) Can more than 1 000 000 participants with 3 (or so) million computers just be told:
DON'T change the computer time backwards when BOINC is at work!

3) If you think that it is Very rare case just because I am (maybe) the first of 1 000 000
who reported it - think of this:
How many people (so called "ordinary users") monitor CPU usage, running processes, temperatures
to notice that something unusual is going on? I will guess as less than 5%.
We (computer freaks), my friends, - we are minority;
(
I often meet people which don't know what's inside THEIR computers
"What's your CPU" - "I don't know"
"What's the CPU frequency" - "What is frequency?"
"How big is your HDD" - "Beats me"
"What brand is it" - "Do they have different brands?"
"What kind of clothes you prefer" - "Some BRAND of course"
"Ahhhhhh, at last....."
)

4. Some games tend to alter the clock so it has to be corrected manually.


So I think that THIS has to be Corrected!


I did some more experiments

A) If you turn clock back 28 sec - no restart of BOINC
B) If you turn clock back 31 sec - BOINC stops and restarts almost immediately
C) If you Exit BOINC, turn clock back (e.g. 30 minutes), start BOINC again - no problem
(so it is not some counter/time written in the files but it is in the memory only)


___________________
StdErr.Txt:

setiathome_enhanced 5.27 DevC++/MinGW

Work Unit Info:
...............
WU true angle range is : 0.823876
Optimal function choices:
-----------------------------------------------------
name
-----------------------------------------------------
v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)
v_GetPowerSpectrum 0.01143 0.00000
v_ChirpData 0.41107 0.00000
v_Transpose4 0.16920 0.00000
FPU opt folding 0.05283 0.00000
No heartbeat from core client for 31 sec - exiting
Restarted at 8.21 percent.
No heartbeat from core client for 31 sec - exiting
Restarted at 8.35 percent.
No heartbeat from core client for 31 sec - exiting
Restarted at 8.87 percent.
Restarted at 10.31 percent.
Restarted at 10.50 percent.
___________________________



And I think that THIS has to be Corrected!


"I also think that Carthage should be destroyed." :)

.

3660) Questions and Answers : Windows : somehow lost a unit? (Message 722519)
Posted 6 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:
i noticed that i had finished one and clicked the manual update but it said something like connection deferred and then it lost the completed one.. whats up with that?



You didn't lost anything, just your computer reported finished task.
Your credit for this task is "pending".
When another computer finishes the same task you will get about 53 credit points (maybe less but no more).

Look at "Your computers" and see:

Sent: 5 Mar 2008 19:34:52 UTC ___ Reported: 6 Mar 2008 3:47:57 UTC ___ Over Success Done 23,821.63 53.16 pending



3661) Questions and Answers : Windows : no screen saver graphics (Message 722518)
Posted 6 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Are you using 5.10.30 on Vista? If so, I'm having the same problem. I think that BOINC is doing work, just not displaying the screensaver.

Is there a problem with 5.10.30 on Vista?


It works fine on my Vista x64 machines. Screen saver comes up and displays properly.


What is your setting of Vista's User Account Control?


User Account Control is on, and I manually allow BOINC to run after startup. The screen saver is not password protected and I allow BOINC to use 100% of my CPU on each Vista machine using the screen saver. BOINC is installed in C:\\Program Files\\BOINC on those machines. Screen saver is set to kick on after 20 minutes and to say on for an hour, then my monitor goes into standby.



"BOINC is installed in C:\\Program Files\\BOINC" on Vista?
With UAC On? Really?

I was told that "X:\\Program Files" is protected from writing on Vista?
How BOINC/SETI update their files every minute?

3662) Questions and Answers : Windows : CPU utilization (Message 722502)
Posted 6 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:
As you pointed out there are numerous motherboard combinations. I am suggesting getting the cpu temp, which as far as I know is cpu specific. Please correct me if I'm wrong as I am no expert on these things. Other temps would be too hard to obtain as you say, but the cpu temp shouldn't be that hard to return or require a motherboard-specific version of code.


Sure, maximum CPU temps can be inferred from the manufacturer documents, but how does one go about getting the current CPU temp on a given system?

The only way to do that is to find out if the motherboard supports thermal monitoring. Most motherboards these days do, but so many manufacturers use different thermal monitoring chips, each with their own specific set of instructions to use that there are literally hundreds of different types to program for. The same motherboard manufacturer alone could use two dozen different thermal monitoring chips, depending on which third party they got a deal from or if one is simply newer/more advanced than another.

Thermal monitoring chips don't necessarily use the same instruction sets across all brands/types/models as they are not standardized in the industry.

Getting the temp would require getting the programming access codes for each and every thermal monitoring chip used on every motherboard to ensure maximum compatibility (otherwise I guarantee you there'll be complaints here! LOL) It's just too complex and too much for a project like BOINC to handle.



One of the Everest developers told me
(on Lavalys Discussion Forum > Lavalys EVEREST > Hardware monitoring > What is CPU Diode temperature?)
that (modern) CPUs with internal CPU Diode have instruction which returns "CPU Diode temperature"
even if the motherboard has no sensor chip!
(like CPUID instruction returns the CPU name, etc.)

Look at the end of this page:

http://www.lavalys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=494

3663) Questions and Answers : Windows : no screen saver graphics (Message 722266)
Posted 5 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Are you using 5.10.30 on Vista? If so, I'm having the same problem. I think that BOINC is doing work, just not displaying the screensaver.

Is there a problem with 5.10.30 on Vista?


It works fine on my Vista x64 machines. Screen saver comes up and displays properly.


What is your setting of Vista's User Account Control?

3664) Questions and Answers : Windows : Computer Clock back stops BOINC (Message 722265)
Posted 5 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:
This may have to do with the CPU throttling code. The CPU throttling code checks whether the CPU usage has exceeded X% recently. Moving the clock backwards might indicate to BOINC an infinite CPU usage for a little while.


Can CPU throttling occur if my setting is 100% CPU usage (only SETI project) all the time?

3665) Questions and Answers : Windows : Computer Clock back stops BOINC (Message 721862)
Posted 4 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:
.

It happened that I set the computer clock (wrong) 10 minutes ahead (in the future).

When I noticed it after 2-3 minutes I set the clock back (to the correct wall time).

At about this moment BOINC stopped computation and only resumed it after 10 minutes.

Is this normal (intended) behavior?

(I suppose it has something to do with the date/time stamp of "state.sah" file)

What if somebody sets the clock years in the future (to test something) and than return the clock back?


Try the 5-10 minutes ahead (wait 1 minute) - back (wait 1 minute) yourself
- the reading on Tasks tab of BOINC Manager remains "Running"
but the Progress counter stops and Setiathome task disappears from Windows Task Manager!
(and CPU usage drops down)

Than after a 5-10 minutes it starts again.

.
3666) Questions and Answers : Windows : no screen saver graphics (Message 721835)
Posted 4 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I knew about this workaround, but it doesn't work on two of my Vista systems nor an XP x64 machine.

Wasn't that because Vista doesn't allow any service to interact with the desktop for security reasons?

Yes. It is possible to get a service to start an application that then interacts with the desktop. It is a royal pain.


But in V6, this is supposed to be fixed completely so that Service installs can do graphics screen savers, but only with newer versions of the applications.

Yes, else you just have to set the workaround anyway, to accommodate the BOINC pre-6 compliant graphics to still work.

But the pre-6 graphics don't work on Vista at all, so there is no point in the work-around on Vista.


On Vista32 I use "Show graphics" button (BOINC manager - Tasks tab) which works
(but Screen Saver can't start).


3667) Questions and Answers : Windows : Constant Backing Off? (Message 721828)
Posted 4 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:
It seems you were right! I came back a long while later and found my computer hard at work. (My 4-core processor is now being 100% used! It's kind of scary actually... Is this good for my processor? :O)


Just run Everest to see what is temperature of the CPU - if it is below 45 Celsius it is OK.
You can check at Intel's site what is the maximum operating temperature of your CPU to be sure.
CPU will last many years (only if lightning don't strike near-by :) )

Mine is: Mainboard 28-32 deg C, CPU 38-42 deg C (Athlon 64 3500+).
3668) Questions and Answers : Windows : How to run BOINC minimized at computer startup? (Message 721820)
Posted 4 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:

The other alternative is to install as a service and to uncheck the start automatically checkbox on the last page. This checkbox only controlls the UI in this situation, not the daemon that controls the worker processes. If you do this, you will get no UI until you start it from the start menu.

John,
Does this mean it will still get cycles even if a user account is logged in that does not have BOINC selected as its screen saver? If so, is there any impact on the logged in user? (This would be on what is now my wife's machine, and I don't want to cause too much irritation ;-)
Thanks!


BOINC/SETI screen saver does not compute anything (only "computes" and draws graphics).
It is just for your amusement.

You don't need to use/run the SETI screen saver for the computing of data to take place
no matter what kind of installation of BOINC you have - "normal" or as a service.


3669) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Optimal function choice (Message 721785)
Posted 4 Mar 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I think it depends on what setting you have configured Boinc, is your setup always on WU load en 100%, than your CPU will divide the task in 2, your game and Boinc. If you got 2 CPU's than you 'll never have a problem. I did have, still do, a K6 AMD and when I played games local, SETI will be online on the background, never had a problem, only when I went online (game of UT CTF) I killed the process. I brought forward a WU of 349 this way.
Now I run Boinc on a Quad core, running Vista, running internet, so hopefully what I explaned to you makes sense.

Kind regards,

Mark



(My setting is 100% CPU all the time)

My question is not about will BOINC/SETI work in the background -
it works if there are free CPU cycles.

It will not "divide the task in 2, your game and Boinc" (if you mean 50%/50%).
SETI task runs at Low/Idle priority (as you can see by Task Manager)
and it only gets CPU time when no other process needs CPU time.

(if the game needs 30% CPU and other processes use 10% than SETI will get 60%)
(if the game uses about 90% CPU and other processes use about 10% than SETI will get no more than 1-3% of CPU time)

This doesn't depend on how many cores your CPU has except the fact
that this kind of CPU has more computing power and it is hard to heavy load all of them.

I think that BOINC starts one SETI task per core
(on Quad Core CPU there are 4 SETI tasks running simultaneously - each on its own core).
If the game is not designed for multiprocessor/multicore system it will load just 1 core.

BOINC application itself runs at normal priority but uses very little CPU time.


So...
My question is about a thing which occurs when SETI task is Started or Restarted.
(Manually or (most of the time) - automaticly)

At this moment "Optimal function choice" is made (by setiathome_enhanced 5.27).
(On fast (2-3 GHz) CPU it lasts 5-10 seconds, on slow (500 MHz) - 1-3 minutes.)

Multiple functions are "tried" to measure which one is the best (fastest) for given CPU/computer.

These functions are written to do the same computation by using different
instruction sets (FPU, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4?...) supported by the CPU.


Despite the fact that it is a short process it has impact on the computing speed of entire WorkUnit
which varies in my case from 4 hours (Athlon 64 3500+ using SSE) to 4 days (K6-2+ 500 MHz using FPU).


So I wonder what will happen (what function will be choosen) if some functions are "tried" when computer
is Idle "loaded" (e.g. you are reading something on the screen (maybe this post :) ))
and the next moment (while other functions are "tried") you start something "heavy"
(e.g. 3D game, DivX coding, RAR compressing, CPU Burn-In utility,...) (and stop it after a few minutes).

Will this affect the next hours or days of SETI computing speed?


So I don't know what happens if:
"
1. During "Optimal function choice" by setiathome_enhanced 5.27
if I start some heavy task (e.g. game) in the middle of this process will this affect it?

(the functions executed when "heavy task" is running will take longer -
will this fool the setiathome_enhanced 5.27 that they are not optimal)
"
.


3670) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Optimal function choice (Message 719730)
Posted 29 Feb 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:


1. During "Optimal function choice" by setiathome_enhanced 5.27
if I start some heavy task (e.g. game) in the middle of this process will this affect it?

(the functions executed when "heavy task" is running will take longer -
will this fool the setiathome_enhanced 5.27 that they are not optimal)


2. Is there any function of "Optimal function choice" group that uses (tries) 3DNow! ?

(As you know the older AMD processors - K6-2 ... early Athlons/Durons - do not have SSE)
(On K6-2+ everytime FPU is choosen)


3671) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Web: Average number of results reported per day (Message 719720)
Posted 29 Feb 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:


---> Suggestion to Web pages developer:

Add "Average number of results computed/uploaded/reported per day"

because many people confuse that to be equivalent to
"Average turnaround time"


3672) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Participants with excessive work units and excessive No Reply (Message 719715)
Posted 29 Feb 2008 by Profile BilBg
Post:


I agree with you, found 1 had a 1 gig computer and has 100 work units to process, turn around time is 8 days.



Turn around time of 8 days doesn't mean that this computer produces 1 result per 8 days.

BOINC is like conveyor - it gets WorkUnits from one side and gives results to the other.

Turn around time of 8 days means that WU entered the queue 8 days before it has been processed
(i.e. computed, produced result, result uploaded & reported)

Meanwhile (while this WU has been waiting in the queue) the computer ended and
reported many more WU/results (10...100)

Your computer "AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+" has
"Average turnaround time 2.82 days"
but I'm sure that it computes a WU every 2-4 hours.


****************************************

---> Suggestion to Web pages developer:

Add "Average number of results computed/uploaded/reported per day"

because many people confuse that to be equivalent to
"Average turnaround time"

****************************************


3673) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Win Vista - BOINC Startup (Message 671034)
Posted 2 Nov 2007 by Profile BilBg
Post:

I think that there is also "ending" problem in Vista -
I have to manually Exit the BOINC Manager before restarting the OS.

If I don't - the currently running task is interrupted with
"Compute error".

Does anybody noticed the same?

3674) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Win Vista - BOINC Startup (Message 647123)
Posted 23 Sep 2007 by Profile BilBg
Post:
"The other two..." - you mean "The other two computers?"


Yeah, the other two computers of mine on Vista that I have UAC still enabled for security reasons.

What exactly you do - just install NOT in "x:\\Program Files\\BOINC"
or you have to also disable UAC? Or something more?


By default, Vista protects the x:\\Program Files folder to prevent malicious software from installing itself and auto-launching itself at startup as a security measure.

BOINC, by default (as most programs) install to the x:\\Program Files folder as they should, but BOINC manipulates it's data in that folder too, which Vista's UAC doesn't like.

The workaround is to change the default install of BOINC to your root folder x:\\ instead of x:\\Program Files. If you've already installed BOINC, you can uninstall it, move the entire BOINC folder out of x:\\Program Files and into the root x:\\ (so that it will be x:\\BOINC), then reinstall BOINC to that folder to preserve your WUs, settings and preferences.

When installing to x:\\BOINC, UAC doesn't need to be disabled.

Can UAC be disabled on per program basis - some kind of "exclude list"
or "allowed programs"?


I believe there is a way to exclude programs, but they must be approved (or verified) by Microsoft as non-malicious software (or perhaps there's a specific registration process that Microsoft is encouraging). I believe BOINC v6.0 will fix most of this when it gets released.

Actually, there isn't a way to disable UAC per process.





I have to make clear that BOINC/S@H works OK on my computer's Vista OS.
The only small problem is Startup - I have to manually "Run blocked program".

(The Screen Saver isn't real problem - if I wanna peek I can use "Show graphics" button of BOINC Manager)


You say that the BOINC must be installed at root directory of the
partition where Vista is installed ("E:" in my case).


My installation of BOINC is on different partition ("H:")
which has no OS on it - only installed programs.
BOINC is not directly in root directory but in "H:\\Programs.Vis\\Science\\BOINC\\".

(I have made folders "H:\\Programs.Vis", "H:\\Programs.V64", "H:\\Programs.XP"
for installations of programs under different OSes).


Does it make any difference if BOINC is in "E:\\BOINC" or in "H:\\Programs.Vis\\Science\\BOINC\\"?


Can you estimate the danger of disabling the UAC if I have
antivirus and antispyware software installed (0...10)?
(0 = no danger ... 10 = big danger)


(By the way: in Win XP I didn't reinstall BOINC - I just made shortcut to
"H:\\Programs.Vis\\Science\\BOINC\\boincmgr.exe"
and BOINC seams to work fine.

This was After I had Startup problem in Vista.)


P.S.
Actually, there isn't a way to disable UAC per process.


But Microsoft must have somewhere info about trusted Vendors/programs?


3675) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Win Vista - BOINC Startup (Message 644550)
Posted 19 Sep 2007 by Profile BilBg
Post:
They are working on BOINC v6.0 that is supposed to be Vista compatible. Until then, the only workaround for BOINC is to install as a service (so that it doesn't get blocked at startup). The downside to doing so means you won't get the screen saver functionality.

Warning, the following suggestion will reduce the security of Vista!

Or, alternatively, you can disable User Account Control (UAC). I have three of my five Vista machines with UAC disabled and BOINC isn't blocked and the screen saver works fine.

To avoid UAC problems, you also have to install in c:\\BOINC instead of c:\\Program Files\\BOINC.


Oh yeah! I forgot about that one. The other two I had to do that with and it worked (both startup and screen saver).

Thanks John.



"The other two..." - you mean "The other two computers?"

What exactly you do - just install NOT in "x:\\Program Files\\BOINC"
or you have to also disable UAC? Or something more?

My installation is in "H:\\Programs.Vis\\Science\\BOINC\\".
Vista is on "E:".

Can UAC be disabled on per program basis - some kind of "exclude list"
or "allowed programs"?

3676) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Win Vista - BOINC Startup (Message 644289)
Posted 19 Sep 2007 by Profile BilBg
Post:

1) Windows Vista blocks BOINC at Startup:








How can I avoid this?
(Don't have to manually "Run blocked program")




2) BOINC Screen Saver gives the Error (can't start):





This message is when I start the "boinc.scr" directly.


When I use Screen Properties ("Personalize" in Vista) to choose the BOINC Screen Saver the buttons "Settings" and "Preview" don't work.


The "Show graphics" button of BOINC Manager works (Shows graphics).


3677) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Bug in BOINC Screen Saver? (Message 626936)
Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile BilBg
Post:


Is this a bug in BOINC Screen Saver?

Are these wide stripes correct?
(they appear sometimes in rare cases immediately after starting the Screen Saver)





3678) Questions and Answers : Wish list : What are spike, pulse, triplet, gaussian? (Message 588329)
Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile BilBg
Post:

Can somebody explain the meaning of: spike, pulse, triplet, gaussian, chirping data?

What are the measuring units of (pulse) power and period shown in the Screen Saver?


3679) Questions and Answers : Wish list : How long, wide and big is one task? (Message 588045)
Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile BilBg
Post:



How long, wide and big is one task?



(Not how long the computer analyzes the data)


Every task has info (shown in the BOINC Screen Saver) for the date & time of the recording,
frequency and the point on the sky where the signal (radio noise) came from.


But how long (in seconds) is the record from telescope which is sent as one task?

How wide is it? (in Hz)
Are all records made around 1.42GHz ? Why is this (1.42GHz) frequency chosen?

How big (in degrees) is the point on the sky on which the telescope focuses to record one task?


Can the Arecibo radio-telescope actually focus on particular object on the sky?
If it can - for how long time?


[* As you know the Arecibo radio-telescope is built on "solid ground" (in death volcano crater?)
and the reflector can't be moved - it only moves as the Earth turns. So the point on the sky
where the telescope "looks" at specific time is "chosen" mostly by Earth's movement.

But the receiver which hangs (on steel ropes?) over the reflector maybe can be moved
to maintain focus on chosen point for some time *]


How the points (objects) are chosen - are they "everywhere" or the specific stars
or star clusters are preferred?


(Sorry - too many questions... Thank you in advance)


3680) Questions and Answers : Wish list : How the server chooses computers? (Message 581602)
Posted 5 Jun 2007 by Profile BilBg
Post:

As I think the server sends the same task to 3 hosts (computers) and waits to receive
at least 2 results which have to be the same. Obviously it is done to ensure that the
results are correct.

Does the server choose hosts just by random number or intentionally chooses computers
with different type of CPUs (by maker, family, model, stepping) and belonging to
different users?

Does the client software check for known CPU bugs?

How often the server receives wrong results? (2 results the same, one different)
(be it from to much overclocking, intentional tampering, unstable drivers, viruses ...)

What it does in this case?

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How the user credit is computed?




3681) Questions and Answers : Wish list : BOINC Manager - user interface bugs ?, wishes (Message 581100)
Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile BilBg
Post:







3682) Questions and Answers : Wish list : BOINC Manager - user interface bugs ?, wishes (Message 581080)
Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile BilBg
Post:
________________________________________________

BOINC Manager - (possible) user interface bugs, wishes:

_____
1) Advanced view, "Disk" tab:
You can easily generate wrong graphical display of used/free/BOINC used
disk space by simply resizing the window of BOINC Manager
(it's harder to get almost true display).













_____
2) % display:
There is about 2% difference between "Progress %" display in BOINC Manager
(Simple and Advanced view) and BOINC Screen Saver "Overall % done".

I noticed this after power shutdown (no UPS at the moment) at about 50% done
but I last checked this (before power shutdown) at about 20%-30% - it was OK
(the same % in Manager & Screen Saver).

I tried to correct this by Suspending the two Tasks, exiting the BOINC Manager
(from the tray), restarting it (from start menu) and resuming the tasks
but with no success.



_____
3) Time estimation:
"Time to completion" estimation is highly inaccurate - almost twice.
At the beginning (0-10%) it was about 52 hours.
After 63h at 70% done it shows 23h "to completion" so it will take maybe 90 hours to 100%.
(63/70)*100 = 90h (and not 63+23 = 86h) [Yes, it took 90h]

After completing the first task the second task's total Time was corrected
from 3+78 = 81h total to 13+116 = 129h total.
My estimation is total of 105h = (12.83h/12.16%)*100
(maybe simple formula is better than complex)

The computer was almost idle all this time (it was "BOINC busy").
The BOINC Screen Saver blanks the screen after 5 minutes.
The Power Management sleeps only the Monitor, not the System or HDD.





_____
4) I manually started first the Task which has the closest Report Deadline.
Maybe you have to consider ordering the tasks by Report Deadline, not the Name.
(by the way - you can press the buttons Name, CPU time, Progress ... but with no effect)

_____
5) The "dangerous" buttons "Abort" (task) and "Abort Transfer" are too close to
"normal" buttons (Suspend/Resume, Retry Now) and can be used accidentally.
Maybe there is confirmation "behind" them but I don't have the nerve to try it!
(Why !? anyone will "Abort Transfer" of 10 - 20 KB result file or "Abort" 90% completed task ?)

_______
P.S.
I would like to know more about logic behind analyzing the data -
a few pages in popular science language will be good if you add it to help menu.
It can be also a .PDF file with pictures along the text to help for better understanding.
Explain spike, gaussian, triplet, pulse, chirp, fft, RA, Dec ...

Info offered in interesting way can bring more supporters to your program.

The readme says only "analyzes the data looking for signals of extraterrestrial origin".
I have to make guesses of what is going on by looking the Screen Saver's output.

You may say I have to look and understand the program sources but despite I studied
chemistry (implies - & some physics) and used to work as C programmer in the past
I don't know much of astronomy and I don't have time to dig too deep,
but I am still curious as many others.


Just for fun you can add small picture of part of the night sky (not very zoomed in)
showing the nearest stars/constellations (by name too) with every Task data.
Show (mark) also the point (with red dot/circle/haircross ?) of currently running Task.
This picture can be shown in Simple View, in Advanced view's new button (Show sky) or new tab,
and/or in Screen Saver's Data info (alternating 5-10 seconds with the text you use now).


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