Posts by Philadelphia

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Shutting Down the "Big Rigs" (Message 1177837)
Posted 13 Dec 2011 by Profile Philadelphia
Post:
Things aren't looking very good right now in the SETI world. I just about have everything together for my new Red rig (Q9550, 3x GTX 295) but now I'm having 2nd thoughts since I can't even keep my current two rigs crunching 24/7.

So Red might become a Bitcoin miner instead. Anyone tried this yet? It seems to have a lot in common with S@H as it uses GPU HP. I've even seen mining rigs using PCIe extenders so they can run 8 cards off of one MB.


Is Bitcoin boinc based?
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Shutting Down the "Big Rigs" (Message 1177663)
Posted 13 Dec 2011 by Profile Philadelphia
Post:
TA-I've been able to get WU's without a problem....I don't see an issue with running Seti along with a separate project to fill in the gaps.


Hi Blurf, nice to see you old friend.

Dan/Philly
3) Message boards : Number crunching : CLOSED* SETI/BOINC Milestones [ v2.0 ] - XXIII *CLOSED (Message 1177615)
Posted 12 Dec 2011 by Profile Philadelphia
Post:
Congratulations to everyone on their milestones, keep on crunching.
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Project has no tasks available??? (Message 1177391)
Posted 12 Dec 2011 by Profile Philadelphia
Post:
to the tune of "Here We Go Again"


OMG, I think I hurt myself falling off the chair, that is way too funny :)
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Gripes and Kudos II (Message 1176182)
Posted 7 Dec 2011 by Profile Philadelphia
Post:
Additionally (beyond my post above for Claggy) I'd like to thank TRuEQ & TuVaLu, and Skildude for hanging with me, helping get the correct settings for my cpu and gpu.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Trying to share the GPU (Message 1176064)
Posted 6 Dec 2011 by Profile Philadelphia
Post:
Thanks Josef and Mike, thanks for taking a look at them.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Trying to share the GPU (Message 1176021)
Posted 6 Dec 2011 by Profile Philadelphia
Post:
Is it supposed to be running 1 or 2 WU's? It's running one which is fine by me unless it's supposed to be running 2, :)

Here is the seti tasks running

Hope I'm not pushing the gpu at 925 Mhz.
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Trying to share the GPU (Message 1176013)
Posted 6 Dec 2011 by Profile Philadelphia
Post:
I finally got a gpu task, let me know, if you don't mind, if everything is A OK.

Thanks,

Dan/Philly

[edit] according to ccc, the gpu isn't running, must be only cpu, guessing???
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Trying to share the GPU (Message 1175835)
Posted 5 Dec 2011 by Profile Philadelphia
Post:
<cmdline>-period_iterations_num 20 -instances_per_device 1</cmdline>
<coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>1</count>


missed the last one


What should the count be (0.5 like the others?), I just went back to look at prior posts and someones removed a bunch of posts.

I don't remember that being one of the one's to change, but of course I could have missed it.

Dan/Philly


I'd say, leave that set of instructions as is. For now


Will do.
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Trying to share the GPU (Message 1175776)
Posted 5 Dec 2011 by Profile Philadelphia
Post:
<cmdline>-period_iterations_num 20 -instances_per_device 1</cmdline>
<coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>1</count>


missed the last one


What should the count be (0.5 like the others?), I just went back to look at prior posts and someones removed a bunch of posts.

I don't remember that being one of the one's to change, but of course I could have missed it.

Dan/Philly
11) Message boards : Number crunching : NEW GPU not recognized (Message 1175762)
Posted 5 Dec 2011 by Profile Philadelphia
Post:
For the folks that can help you, you may need to 'unhide' your computer in your preferences so they can take a peek.
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Trying to share the GPU (Message 1175758)
Posted 5 Dec 2011 by Profile Philadelphia
Post:


there are 2 sets of this.

I'm sorry i only told you to edit the <cmdline> in 2 places

Please add <flops> and the <count> to the second set as well

Sorry I forgot...


Don't give it a second thought, if I paid a bit more attention I could have seen it was a second set.

Here is the file now:

<app_info>
<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AK_v8b2_win_SSSE3x.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>603</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8b2_win_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v505</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r521.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>AstroPulse_Kernels_r521.cl</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>506</version_num>
<avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
<cmdline>-instances_per_device 2 -unroll 8 -ffa_block 8192 -ffa_block_fetch 4096</cmdline>
<flops>209876543210</flops>
<coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>0.5</count>
</coproc>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r521.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AstroPulse_Kernels_r521.cl</file_name>
<copy_file/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>505</version_num>
<avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
<cmdline>-instances_per_device 2 -unroll 8 -ffa_block 8192 -ffa_block_fetch 4096</cmdline>
<flops>209876543210</flops>
<coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>0.5</count>
</coproc>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r521.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AstroPulse_Kernels_r521.cl</file_name>
<copy_file/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v505</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>505</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>MB6_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r390.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r390.cl</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>610</version_num>
<avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.05</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
<cmdline>-period_iterations_num 20 -instances_per_device 1</cmdline>
<coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
<file_ref>
<file_name>MB6_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r390.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r390.cl</file_name>
<copy_file/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Trying to share the GPU (Message 1175729)
Posted 4 Dec 2011 by Profile Philadelphia
Post:
you have "instances per device" set to 2 but you have your count set to one so you are asking boinc to run 2 but each Wu uses the whole GPU which means you are basically having 2 WU's active but only processing 1 at a time.


Wasn't the change to change it to .5? <count>0.5</count>

Also, now looking at the changes again, should I have made 'all' the changes twice, under each <cmdline>-instances_per_device 2 -unroll 8 -ffa_block 8192 -ffa_block_fetch 4096</cmdline> line?
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Trying to share the GPU (Message 1175721)
Posted 4 Dec 2011 by Profile Philadelphia
Post:
use Notepad to edit your app_info, as i said earlier.

Claggy


I did use notepad, the changed file info is listed just above your posting.

Dan/Philly
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Trying to share the GPU (Message 1175713)
Posted 4 Dec 2011 by Profile Philadelphia
Post:
Here is my current app file, should I just copy the other app file into it. I did take notice that suggested file has SSE2 in it VS SSSE3.


<cmdline>-instances_per_device 1 -unroll 6 -ffa_block 4096 -ffa_block_fetch 2048</cmdline>
- <coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>


I think you could keep your file and just edit a couple of lines.

<cmdline>-instances_per_device 2 -unroll 8 -ffa_block 8192 -ffa_block_fetch 4096</cmdline>
<flops>209876543210</flops>
<coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>0.5</count>
</coproc>


Edit your file where you find the <cmdline> to my suggested line. There are 2 such lines.

Add the line <flops>209876543210</flops> accordingly where it is in my suggestion.

And make sure you edit the <count>0.5</count> accordingly


Here is the app file with the changes, good thing you mention there were 2 instances of the <cmdline>, I'm sure I'd have not noticed it.

<app_info>
- <app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
- <file_info>
<name>AK_v8b2_win_SSSE3x.exe</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
- <app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>603</version_num>
- <file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8b2_win_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
</app_version>
- <app>
<name>astropulse_v505</name>
</app>
- <file_info>
<name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r521.exe</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
- <file_info>
<name>AstroPulse_Kernels_r521.cl</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
- <app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>506</version_num>
<avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
<cmdline>-instances_per_device 2 -unroll 8 -ffa_block 8192 -ffa_block_fetch 4096</cmdline>
<flops>209876543210</flops>
- <coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>0.5</count>
</coproc>
- <file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r521.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
- <file_ref>
<file_name>AstroPulse_Kernels_r521.cl</file_name>
<copy_file />
</file_ref>
</app_version>
- <app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>505</version_num>
<avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
<cmdline>-instances_per_device 2 -unroll 8 -ffa_block 8192 -ffa_block_fetch 4096</cmdline>
- <coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
- <file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r521.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
- <file_ref>
<file_name>AstroPulse_Kernels_r521.cl</file_name>
<copy_file />
</file_ref>
</app_version>
- <app>
<name>astropulse_v505</name>
</app>
- <file_info>
<name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
- <app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>505</version_num>
- <file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
</app_version>
- <app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
- <file_info>
<name>MB6_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r390.exe</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
- <file_info>
<name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r390.cl</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
- <app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>610</version_num>
<avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.05</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
<cmdline>-period_iterations_num 20 -instances_per_device 1</cmdline>
- <coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
- <file_ref>
<file_name>MB6_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r390.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
- <file_ref>
<file_name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r390.cl</file_name>
<copy_file />
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>


Next up to try to figure out why it downloaded CPU WU's when I made the changes to the preferences.
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Trying to share the GPU (Message 1175711)
Posted 4 Dec 2011 by Profile Philadelphia
Post:


I recomend 11.9 that I am pleased with.
But you may choose 11.2-11.4 as they also work(maybe a little bit faster).

11.9 uses APP SDK2.5 for OpenCl


Sorry folks for being slow about the changes, I've been very busy. Also, downloaded some more files and got all CPU ones, even though I changed preference to 0 processors, 0% of processors and 0% of CPU time.

I did install 11.9 and verified it with GPU, also, OpenCL box checked.

Next up, to change the xml file.
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Trying to share the GPU (Message 1175633)
Posted 4 Dec 2011 by Profile Philadelphia
Post:


Before then, please make sure OpenCL is available on your GPU, Cat 10.10 drivers were released with and without OpenCL support, if you haven't got OpenCL support then the ATI GPU tasks will error out.

Claggy


When I ran GPU-Z, OpenCL is not checked. Maybe a dumb question, but can I just check it on GPU-Z?

[edit] It was a dumb question, I just tried it to no avail, lol.

[edit/edit] The driver number, via device manager, is 8.782.0.0
18) Message boards : Number crunching : Trying to share the GPU (Message 1175605)
Posted 4 Dec 2011 by Profile Philadelphia
Post:
Here is my current app file, should I just copy the other app file into it. I did take notice that suggested file has SSE2 in it VS SSSE3.

- <app_info>
- <app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
- <file_info>
<name>AK_v8b2_win_SSSE3x.exe</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
- <app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>603</version_num>
- <file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8b2_win_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
</app_version>
- <app>
<name>astropulse_v505</name>
</app>
- <file_info>
<name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r521.exe</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
- <file_info>
<name>AstroPulse_Kernels_r521.cl</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
- <app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>506</version_num>
<avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
<cmdline>-instances_per_device 1 -unroll 6 -ffa_block 4096 -ffa_block_fetch 2048</cmdline>
- <coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
- <file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r521.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
- <file_ref>
<file_name>AstroPulse_Kernels_r521.cl</file_name>
<copy_file />
</file_ref>
</app_version>
- <app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>505</version_num>
<avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
<cmdline>-instances_per_device 1 -unroll 6 -ffa_block 4096 -ffa_block_fetch 2048</cmdline>
- <coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
- <file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r521.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
- <file_ref>
<file_name>AstroPulse_Kernels_r521.cl</file_name>
<copy_file />
</file_ref>
</app_version>
- <app>
<name>astropulse_v505</name>
</app>
- <file_info>
<name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
- <app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>505</version_num>
- <file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
</app_version>
- <app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
- <file_info>
<name>MB6_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r390.exe</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
- <file_info>
<name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r390.cl</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
- <app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>610</version_num>
<avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.05</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
<cmdline>-period_iterations_num 20 -instances_per_device 1</cmdline>
- <coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
- <file_ref>
<file_name>MB6_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r390.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
- <file_ref>
<file_name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r390.cl</file_name>
<copy_file />
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>

Enjoy your football Sunday.

Dan/Philly
19) Message boards : Number crunching : Trying to share the GPU (Message 1175603)
Posted 4 Dec 2011 by Profile Philadelphia
Post:
SSE2x


Claggy, thanks for highlighting the SSE2x, I'm sure I'd have missed it. At your convenience, let me know if the changes I made were correct, obviously I think they were :)

Yep, the app has changed to the SSSE3x app, and the times have come down a bit too:

<core_client_version>6.10.60</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
Windows optimized S@H Enhanced application by Alex Kan
Version info: v8b2-SSSE3x (Intel, Core 2-optimized v8-nographics) V5.13 by Alex Kan
SSSE3x Win32 Build 386 , Ported by : Jason G, Raistmer, JDWhale

CPUID: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
Speed: 2 x 2400 MHz
Cache: L1=64K L2=4096K
Features: MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3

Work Unit Info:
...............
Credit multiplier is : 2.85
WU true angle range is : 2.591619

Flopcounter: 10473321425573.945000

Spike count: 6
Pulse count: 0
Triplet count: 0
Gaussian count: 0
called boinc_finish
boinc_exit(): requesting safe worker shutdown ->
boinc_exit(): received safe worker shutdown acknowledge ->

</stderr_txt>
]]>


Did you install the ATI GPU apps?, as you haven't had any Wu's yet, i assume your GPU is busy on other projects and your cache is full for it,

Claggy


I have not installed them as of yet, when I got home last night I did the change to SSSE3, then went to bed. I'm up and at it again this morning (6:30ish here in AZ) and will install the app that TRuEQ & TuVaLu was nice enough to share.

You are correct, I haven't received any GPU WU's yet. I'm going to set my preferences to no cpu's to see if that will spur the project to sent some GPU WU's.
20) Message boards : Number crunching : Trying to share the GPU (Message 1175521)
Posted 4 Dec 2011 by Profile Philadelphia
Post:
Philadelphia:

I suggest you run the astropulse r.521 here since they give the best credits as of now.
Check seti server status if there is any available task.
Set your work cache to as many days of work you want to have in your cache.

Some says ATI driver 11.2-11,4 is the best I use ATI driver 11.9. Do not use 11.10-11.11 with OpenCl


Create or edit your app_info.xml so it runs 2 tasks at the same time on the GPU.

Here is an example of the app_info.xml that I use.

_________________________
<app_info>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v505</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r521.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>AstroPulse_Kernels_r521.cl</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>506</version_num>
<avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
<cmdline>-instances_per_device 2 -unroll 8 -ffa_block 8192 -ffa_block_fetch 4096 -hp</cmdline>
<flops>209876543210</flops>
<coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>0.5</count>
</coproc>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r521.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AstroPulse_Kernels_r521.cl</file_name>
<copy_file/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>505</version_num>
<avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
<cmdline>-instances_per_device 2 -unroll 8 -ffa_block 8192 -ffa_block_fetch 4096 -hp</cmdline>
<flops>209876543210</flops>
<coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>0.5</count>
</coproc>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r521.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AstroPulse_Kernels_r521.cl</file_name>
<copy_file/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>
_______________________________

Your app_info.xml might look a bit different. My app only runs on the GPU so it misses the Lines for CPU.

//TRuEQ


Thank you for sharing all that information, it is greatly appreciated. I hope you don't mind if I digest all the information and get back at you. It's only 8PM in Phoenix but my batteries are worn out :)

Philly/Dan


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