You know what i find most strange about this thread..is all the people who are feeling outraged about this treatment of the kitties and getting all angry at people for being so inhumane and cruel. Going as far as thinking there is something deeply wrong and even sick with someone who gets their cats declawed.

Yet I bet most of the most vocal and angry kitty lovers here will have at some point during this discussion eaten chicken, which in most cases is raised in the most inhumane and cruel way imaginable.

I won't touch chicken because of the way it is reared and haven't since I was 16. I won't get my cat's declawed either...but I am not about to start threatening and insulting people because they choose to do one or the other. That's not really the way to get people to change their minds.

Supporting the way chickens are intensively reared is way worse than having your cat declawed.

I'm both righteous and competent. Robert and BrainS agree with me that I am.

Hallelujah, the lord has risen!!!

Well I'll be darned, there's even a holy trinity in there too... ;)

And they'll run screaming to the gov't to save them, somehow figuring that MORE gov't-caused problems, on top of decades of the initial gov't-caused problems will make things better.

And they'll STILL demonstrate that they know NOTHING about simple economics because they'll blame the oil companies nearly 100% for high energy prices...

Brother, you asked for it!

It's not gov't involvement in general that causes problems, it's the incompetent, un-righteous people being in the gov't who cause these problems. Replace them with righteous, competent people, and the problems will decrease.

Most Americans don't consider anyone pro-communist to be competent OR righteous.

I didn't say anything about any political party or direction, just about competence and righteousness. To me, competence and righteousness doesn't come or go with any party membership card. And in each party there are people who are righteous, and people who are corrupt, people who are competent and know what effects several decisions will have, and others who just don't care to even bother getting this knowledge.

The implication is that the terms righteous and competent are subjective and due to our greatly differing political opinions, I doubt we would ever agree on the same candidate.

It's pretty much the whole basis for having elections.

And they'll run screaming to the gov't to save them, somehow figuring that MORE gov't-caused problems, on top of decades of the initial gov't-caused problems will make things better.

And they'll STILL demonstrate that they know NOTHING about simple economics because they'll blame the oil companies nearly 100% for high energy prices...

Brother, you asked for it!

It's not gov't involvement in general that causes problems, it's the incompetent, un-righteous people being in the gov't who cause these problems. Replace them with righteous, competent people, and the problems will decrease.

Most Americans don't consider anyone pro-communist to be competent OR righteous.

If this is truly happening, and I don't doubt that it is......
It is due to our gov trying to stifle the free expression that is part and parcel of the inet today............
Stifle yourself, Edith......you elder members will know THAT reference........

Uh huh...so child pornographers should be allowed " free expression " ??

I, for one, am GLAD when any access to that kind of crap is removed.

If I had my choice, every single one of those kiddie porn loving b**tards would be put at the top of the Death List.

And they'll run screaming to the gov't to save them, somehow figuring that MORE gov't-caused problems, on top of decades of the initial gov't-caused problems will make things better.

And they'll STILL demonstrate that they know NOTHING about simple economics because they'll blame the oil companies nearly 100% for high energy prices...

Brother, you asked for it!

In a world without oil, we would learn to adapt. I believe our lives would become much more 'localised' in the long term. People would have to find jobs closer to home or move within striking distance of jobs. We might have to buy our groceries from local sources as well as grow some of our own food, and maybe holidays would once more be taken closer to home.
Communities might become more self-reliant but also, unfortunately, more 'insular.' In that respect it might be like a return to the past.
Cars might only be used for long journeys or public transport might have to replace them because of the high price of keeping a car, if they could run at all.
Lots of things would change, but not necessarily for the worse. I prefer to be optimistic and say that we would eventually find other energy sources to replace the oil anyway.

I can grow my own food but would need animals and water, land and sun. I can build shelter and make fire. I can hunt and cook.

I can't wait for it to run out. World wars would be by solar or sail, keeping the imperialists at bay. Literally.

How would the solar cells be made with no oil? No plastic remember. :)

syntetic.

What saddened me was watching the News at 10 here in the UK last Friday evening.

Farmers throughout Europe pouring milk down drains, using it to spray their crops & giving it to their cattle to drink. All because they no longer wish to supply major supermarkets who are purchasing low & charging high. I've seen milk rise from £1.12 22 days ago to £1.44 now, that a rise of 22%.

Are the Supermarkets wrong? NO, it's the greed of those at the top wanting bigger bonuses - It's the same with any company anywhere in the world, with banks being the greediest!!!

He just said, on 60 Minutes, that it is the "best language in the world." Seriously.

Did you forget that Louisiana is considered a 3rd world country by some standards :)

This comment gives you away. It demonstrates that you have absolutely no concept of the third world. This is amply evidenced by your inane, ill-informed and ideologically bankrupt arguments throughout this thread.

This is the third world.



That's not Louisiana, by any standards.

And relations created in cyberspace are fragile as well. Real commitment can only be created in real life.

A capitalist system, as has been demonstrated time and time again, is the only one that provides the most income and opportunity for the greatest number of people. There will still be very rich people, there will still be very poor people.