Posts by Bill

1) Message boards : Number crunching : HP 2560p laptop host no 8367603 - no graphics card (Message 1969505)
Posted 6 hours ago by Profile Bill Special Project $75 donor
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Razer makes a portable GPU unit called the Core. I don’t know much about it, but it looks like it uses a Thunderbolt connection to the PC. It doesn’t look like your laptop has a Thunderbolt connection, but maybe someone else makes a similar product that will be compatible?

Also, I was running a Lenovo laptop basically 24/7 for over a year. I had to retire it recently for other reasons, but the hardware was in good shape. I used TThrottle, but since I forced the fan to run at full speed I rarely had the performance throttle below 100% for both the cpus and the gpus. I never looked at the power consumption vs cpu/gpu %.
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (114) Server Problems? (Message 1969331)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile Bill Special Project $75 donor
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I did notice the well was dry this morning. I guess the silver lining to not having a robust crunching machine is that I still have some WUs to process?
3) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI/BOINC Milestones [ v2.0 ] - XXIX (Message 1968010)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile Bill Special Project $75 donor
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I know this is minor compared to most posting in this thread, but I finally cracked 1M. I started here 13 years ago and was mostly dormant until about 18 months ago. I'm glad to be helping out again and here's to the next million for everyone!
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Compatible ram for a B450 or X370 motherboard? (Message 1967035)
Posted 14 days ago by Profile Bill Special Project $75 donor
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All the reviews and tests I've read so far on the B350 chip set boards with the 2200G APU show that the graphics performance is really impacted by the speed and latency of the memory because the graphics engine in the cpu uses system memory. So it is best to run the fastest memory with the lowest latency. The best choice in that camp is to get memory made with Samsung B-dies or Hynix CJR dies.
Don't worry about what the QVL says, that is only to show the memory that is qualified at the Ryzen minimum memory spec of 2933. Ryzen can run much faster memory if using the best memory. First stop should be a visit to the B-Die Finder website.
B-die finder
with a further review if necessary on the Hardwareluxx thread which is being kept current with the latest memory products. Samsung 8Gbit B-The List That is for the single rank 8GB sticks. Further down the page are the double rank 16GB sticks but I always recommend sticking with single rank as it is easier on the cpu IMC to run them at speed.

Next you should download the Ryzen DDR4 DRAM Memory Calculator which helps develop suggested timings for SAFE,FAST and EXTREME timings based on the type, manufacturer and quality of your RAM. DRAM Calculator for Ryzen™ 1.4.0 Watch the YT video for instructions on how to use the tool.


Ok, thank you for the clarification in your posts, Keith. I'm still processing it a bit, but I'm getting there.

So, basically you're saying, ignore the QVL completely? I might have made an assumption, but i thought the ram had to be listed there in order to make sure it works with the mobo. I don't need to get in the weeds with this (although that might be too late), but it seems like there is a lot of memory shown on the QVLs that is a lot slower than 2933 and/or the ram is capable of much faster speeds.

I will be sure to check out the DRAM Calculator once I get everything ordered and up and running.

Thank you again for the help. This is going to be a "baby steps" build. All my other "rigs" have been laptops, obviously with no customization. This is a way to get my feet wet, even if it isn't a screaming rig. Assuming I succeed, I will hopefully have gained some experience to have a better handle of what I want for the next rig.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Compatible ram for a B450 or X370 motherboard? (Message 1966993)
Posted 14 days ago by Profile Bill Special Project $75 donor
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I am building a computer from scratch for the first time in ages. I am starting small, and if the noise, heat, and increase in the power bill doesn’t upset my wife, I can always upgrade from there.

I am going to pick up a Ryzen 3200G for starters, knowing that the socket can take a Ryzen 7 later on. No GPU now, but obviously there will be room for one, maybe two later on.

I have been taking a crash course in the specs of everything, so bear with me.

The big problem I have is with ram. I want to get ram that is at least 2933 to max the potential with the Ryzen 3. It appears that any mobo I look at either has compatible ram in the qvl, but only able to operate below 2933, or it has ram that doesn’t have Samsung or Hynix chips (what I am reading those are practically a requirement).

Am I making a big deal out of nothing, or is this a commin problem?
6) Questions and Answers : Windows : AMD A-2 thru A-10 and new AMD cpu/gpu integrated chips (Message 1966613)
Posted 17 days ago by Profile Bill Special Project $75 donor
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Black Friday is tomorrow, and Newegg has the Ryzen 3 2200G on sale for $99.99. I haven't built a computer in a long time, but I am thinking of picking this up (along with the other parts). I'm looking to start small at first, but I want to get a motherboard that will allow me to expand to 1 or 2 GPUs, and with the AM4 socket I will be able to upgrade to a Ryzen 7 when the time comes.

I've been lurking on the message boards here the past few days, and I am still wrapping my head around what to do with the RAM. I understand that Ryzen is picky with the RAM. Apparently the 2933 is the minimum speed for the RAM, but a higher speed (3000 or 3200) would also work for this processor. Does that sound right? I'm also guessing if I upgrade the processor in the future I may need to upgrade the ram as well.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Only receiving GPU WUs, no CPU WUs (Message 1966427)
Posted 18 days ago by Profile Bill Special Project $75 donor
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First, as Keith has said you are not using the cache settings correctly. The first figure "store at least 0.5 days" means you will only ever collect 0.5 days of work, the second "store additional 5 days" means, as Keith has said your computers will only contact the servers every few days, or when they run out of work. A better set of settings given your mix of projects would be - "store at least 1 day" and "store an additional 0.01 days". This will ensure you keep contacting the server and longer deadline projects will get a shout at getting work, rather than the very short deadline projects dominating.
I think your 1Gb of disk space is a bit on the "short" side as some projects do send very large tasks and require a lot of working space on disk, so I wouldn't go bellow 5Gb.

Funny enough, I increased that from 500 MB, so that is more! I think the 1 GB is fine for now, this computer has other uses than a cruncher and I don't want to store too much on it.

I believe changing the "store up to an additional" variable back down worked, I am getting more non-GPU WU. Thank you, Keith & Rob!

I did try looking for a similar discussion prior to starting this one and I didn't find one, but after a second look I found another related one here: https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=83515 I apologize for you having to repeat yourselves.
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Only receiving GPU WUs, no CPU WUs (Message 1966264)
Posted 19 days ago by Profile Bill Special Project $75 donor
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I knew of the deadline differences in the project, I just find it odd that I've been running the same setup for a long time, and the only thing I changed was WUs stored and HD usage. Perhaps it is what it is for now. At least the computer is working to its potential, albeit in portions I was not expecting.
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Only receiving GPU WUs, no CPU WUs (Message 1966248)
Posted 19 days ago by Profile Bill Special Project $75 donor
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I have a minor mystery on my hands. One of my computers is running S@H, E@H, and Milkyway@H. For some reason I am only getting CPU WUs for E@H, the others are only getting GPU WUs. Now, I did update my storage preferences recently (all store min 0.5 days, and no more than 5 additional days, and 1.0 GB of total HD storage). I don't see how that could be causing the issue. My only guess is that E@H has WUs that have a much greater priority. Any help?
10) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI/BOINC Milestones [ v2.0 ] - XXIX (Message 1961803)
Posted 25 Oct 2018 by Profile Bill Special Project $75 donor
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Weehee! A RAC of 1,000 with 4 Android devices, 3 of which run 24/7 - and not even on all cores. (But that has a technical conclusion, as running on all cores is slower than on half of them, as when running on 'all cores' Android puts the full load on the first 4 cores only.


Congrats! You have been more successful on Android devices than I have. I think I am only getting about 200 RAC combined on two android devices for Einstein @ home.
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Heavy Metal! (Message 1961125)
Posted 20 Oct 2018 by Profile Bill Special Project $75 donor
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I have two theories.
1) They are running it in a household and blew the heck out of the breaker box.
2) Someone just came back to work and noticed someone was "borrowing" the server :)


It looks like that person keeping an eye on the server just went back on break...
12) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI/BOINC Milestones [ v2.0 ] - XXIX (Message 1961122)
Posted 20 Oct 2018 by Profile Bill Special Project $75 donor
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I just saw I cracked into the 5% recently! I got a new computer recently that helped get to this level (about 7,000 RAC). I thought I needed to have a much higher RAC to get to 5%; makes me wonder if other users have dropped off for some reason. Regardless, I am glad I can help!
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Waste heat and operating noise, how do You handle that? (Message 1961120)
Posted 20 Oct 2018 by Profile Bill Special Project $75 donor
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You could get a small air conditioning unit for the room your computers are set up. This would run independently of the hvac of your house. Obviously this is a somewhat serious investment and will futher increase your electric bill.

There are also heat pumps on the market that can divert that heat from one room to the next, or to a condensing unit outside (depending on conditions). A little more complex.
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (113) Server Problems? (Message 1958567)
Posted 5 Oct 2018 by Profile Bill Special Project $75 donor
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It looks like we don't have any WUs available to download? Server status says zero for Astropulse and both Seti versions.
15) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home classic CPU time - how do I find my credit? (Message 1956859)
Posted 22 Sep 2018 by Profile Bill Special Project $75 donor
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I have done a little digging, and it appears that I did switch my account over to my current email address. I then remembered that I started a group for the company that I was working for at the time (it was just me and one other coworker). I found my user statistics on the group page, and it appears that the last workunit I returned was in 2005, and I didn't start back up until 2017.

During my "sabbatical", it looks like the old system was shut down in 2006. I tried logging in to my old account (and looking up my stats), and it says that it can't find the server at all. I'm guessing there isn't a way for me to get these stats transferred to my Boinc account. Well, I suppose it can be done if someone working on the project is able to dust off the old servers to get that information transferred over, but I am assuming that is time better spent elsewhere. Still, it would be cool to have.
16) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home classic CPU time - how do I find my credit? (Message 1955226)
Posted 13 Sep 2018 by Profile Bill Special Project $75 donor
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I see that some users have their SETI@home classic CPU time listed in their profile. I joined the project during the pre-BOINC time, and I know I crunched a decent amount of cpu cycles at that time, but I can't seem to find a record of it.

I think I used that account under and old email address (which I am pretty sure is gone). It was a long time ago, but I would have thought that when I signed up for BOINC when it rolled out I would have at least originally used my old email account. I think I have a certificate of participation that I can dig up. I'm sure that doesn't make things easy at all.

Does anyone know how I would get that information, and how I can have it listed in my profile?
17) Message boards : News : Special Fundraiser for Parkes Data Store and GPU development system (Message 1912604)
Posted 12 Jan 2018 by Profile Bill Special Project $75 donor
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*Edit* Was just putzing around on Boincstats, and I noticed on the Hosts Overview page of SETI's stats, on 12/10, there was a huge blip in the number of new hosts. It appears the average of the month surrounding that date was in the neighborhood of 2-500 a day, and on that day the total was 2844. Not sure if this fund drive had anything to do with it or not, but I did find it an interesting coincidence.


This reminds me...and I hope to not go too far down a different rabbit hole, but I thought I saw a post or received a notice on BOINC a few months back stating that more WUs were going to be in the hopper soon. The point of the notice was asking us to spare a few more CPU cycles. Did I just dream that, and if not, has there been a noticeable increase in WUs being crunched?
18) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : A new prime number has been found! (Message 1910848)
Posted 5 Jan 2018 by Profile Bill Special Project $75 donor
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I know that this is mathematics and not science, but congrats to the people involved in finding the largest prime number! Fivethirtyeight ran an article, and subtly gave S@H some press as well:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/we-have-a-new-prime-number-and-its-23-million-digits-long/
19) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI/BOINC Milestones [ v2.0 ] - XXIX (Message 1909689)
Posted 30 Dec 2017 by Profile Bill Special Project $75 donor
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I noticed over the weekend that I am in the top 25% of average credit! After not using S@H for about 12 years, I'm a little surprised to have reached this milestone after crunching on and off for the past six months with one computer. As of right now I have a RAC of 1,953.

Congrats to everyone else who has reached a milestone!
20) Message boards : News : Special Fundraiser for Parkes Data Store and GPU development system (Message 1906227)
Posted 10 Dec 2017 by Profile Bill Special Project $75 donor
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A 6:1 match is amazing, count me in! Its great to see the enthusiasm, it surely has drawn me in!


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