Posts by cRunchy

1) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 114 (Message 2105904)
Posted 28 Aug 2022 by Profile cRunchy
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nuts
2) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 113 (Message 2104106)
Posted 29 Jul 2022 by Profile cRunchy
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storm
3) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 113 (Message 2103276)
Posted 16 Jul 2022 by Profile cRunchy
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lie
4) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 113 (Message 2102932)
Posted 11 Jul 2022 by Profile cRunchy
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clogs
5) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 113 (Message 2102804)
Posted 8 Jul 2022 by Profile cRunchy
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frequency
6) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 113 (Message 2101642)
Posted 21 Jun 2022 by Profile cRunchy
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spinning
7) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 113 (Message 2101564)
Posted 19 Jun 2022 by Profile cRunchy
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old
8) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 113 (Message 2101284)
Posted 13 Jun 2022 by Profile cRunchy
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scorched
9) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 113 (Message 2100514)
Posted 31 May 2022 by Profile cRunchy
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wage
10) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 113 (Message 2100103)
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carriage
11) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 113 (Message 2098847)
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Saturn
12) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 112 (Message 2096866)
Posted 31 Mar 2022 by Profile cRunchy
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deposit
13) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 112 (Message 2096157)
Posted 20 Mar 2022 by Profile cRunchy
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game
14) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 111 (Message 2095254)
Posted 2 Mar 2022 by Profile cRunchy
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melt
15) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 111 (Message 2094874)
Posted 24 Feb 2022 by Profile cRunchy
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Universe
16) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 111 (Message 2094240)
Posted 16 Feb 2022 by Profile cRunchy
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Penzance
17) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 110 (Message 2094042)
Posted 13 Feb 2022 by Profile cRunchy
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American
18) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 110 (Message 2093138)
Posted 29 Jan 2022 by Profile cRunchy
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Emperor
19) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 110 (Message 2092774)
Posted 24 Jan 2022 by Profile cRunchy
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lengthy
20) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 110 (Message 2092723)
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Borg
21) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 110 (Message 2092660)
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Hydrofoil
22) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 110 (Message 2092470)
Posted 19 Jan 2022 by Profile cRunchy
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Overrides
23) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 110 (Message 2092421)
Posted 18 Jan 2022 by Profile cRunchy
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vertical
24) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 109 (Message 2092024)
Posted 12 Jan 2022 by Profile cRunchy
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gaze
25) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 109 (Message 2091808)
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coach
26) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 109 (Message 2091561)
Posted 6 Jan 2022 by Profile cRunchy
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mixed
27) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 109 (Message 2091330)
Posted 2 Jan 2022 by Profile cRunchy
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breakfast
28) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 109 (Message 2091081)
Posted 29 Dec 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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field
29) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 109 (Message 2091029)
Posted 28 Dec 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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yeast
30) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 109 (Message 2090954)
Posted 27 Dec 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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birth
31) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 109 (Message 2090795)
Posted 24 Dec 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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warriors
32) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 109 (Message 2090754)
Posted 23 Dec 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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drug
33) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 109 (Message 2090267)
Posted 14 Dec 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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Nepal
34) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2089913)
Posted 9 Dec 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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ancient
35) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2089833)
Posted 8 Dec 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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panorama
36) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2089517)
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Islam
37) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2089382)
Posted 1 Dec 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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browser
38) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2089042)
Posted 26 Nov 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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particles
39) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2088850)
Posted 24 Nov 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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resin
40) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2088750)
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band
41) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2088616)
Posted 21 Nov 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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dirty
42) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2088537)
Posted 20 Nov 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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cultured
43) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2088520)
Posted 20 Nov 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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jewels
44) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2088237)
Posted 16 Nov 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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Ottoman
45) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2088150)
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Empire
46) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2088095)
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lapis
47) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2088059)
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steel
48) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2088014)
Posted 13 Nov 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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palm
49) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2087945)
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trunk
50) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2087872)
Posted 11 Nov 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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Nintendo
51) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2087841)
Posted 10 Nov 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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blowhole
52) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2087826)
Posted 10 Nov 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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slippers
53) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2087655)
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bird
54) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2087563)
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mine
55) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2087531)
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cuckoo
56) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2087493)
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rock
57) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2087455)
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fluid
58) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2087391)
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magnetic
59) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2087379)
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barrel
60) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2087174)
Posted 31 Oct 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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Hitler
61) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2087157)
Posted 31 Oct 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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static
62) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2087090)
Posted 30 Oct 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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grapes
63) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2087055)
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Goblin
64) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2086945)
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underwear
65) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2086935)
Posted 27 Oct 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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knot
66) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2086789)
Posted 24 Oct 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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delivery
67) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2086519)
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fetish
68) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2086508)
Posted 20 Oct 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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chocolate
69) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2086354)
Posted 17 Oct 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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discourse
70) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2086288)
Posted 16 Oct 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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rock
71) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2086242)
Posted 15 Oct 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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wood
72) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2086082)
Posted 12 Oct 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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leg
73) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2085953)
Posted 10 Oct 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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birth
74) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2085742)
Posted 7 Oct 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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surgery
75) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2085650)
Posted 6 Oct 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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ears
76) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2085599)
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scythe
77) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2085404)
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India
78) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2085274)
Posted 30 Sep 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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film
79) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2085145)
Posted 28 Sep 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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French
80) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2085021)
Posted 26 Sep 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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message
81) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2084968)
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sheep
82) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2084834)
Posted 23 Sep 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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Miss
83) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2084718)
Posted 21 Sep 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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acquire
84) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2084672)
Posted 20 Sep 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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lady
85) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2084605)
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Chupacabra
86) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2084566)
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energy
87) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2084551)
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driver
88) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2084442)
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hearth
89) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2084418)
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balcony
90) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2084319)
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echo
91) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2084296)
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salary
92) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2084190)
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roller
93) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2084176)
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study
94) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2084122)
Posted 10 Sep 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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relative
95) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2084049)
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Immerse
96) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2084038)
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imagination
97) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2084020)
Posted 9 Sep 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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pre
98) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2083950)
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baby
99) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2083897)
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Razor
100) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2083838)
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warning
101) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2083829)
Posted 6 Sep 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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snap
102) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2083737)
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tram
103) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2083624)
Posted 2 Sep 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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cuddle
104) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2083610)
Posted 2 Sep 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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chip
105) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2083538)
Posted 1 Sep 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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force
106) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2083477)
Posted 31 Aug 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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Korea
107) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2083394)
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molten
108) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2083336)
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corners
109) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2083212)
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refugee
110) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2083176)
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cruet
111) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2083165)
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day
112) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2083088)
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singer
113) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2083032)
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knob
114) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2082970)
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secret
115) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2082908)
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blossom
116) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2082900)
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hell
117) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2082894)
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Cinnamon
118) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2082866)
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Greece
119) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2082800)
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crossing
120) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2082751)
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motion
121) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2082737)
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beard
122) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Holy Mackerel! I made it to 72 (Message 2082707)
Posted 20 Aug 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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72 years young and still going strong.

*** Happy Birthday Bob ***
123) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2082701)
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native
124) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2082660)
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diary
125) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2082641)
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offspring
126) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2082612)
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mystery
127) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2082436)
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being
128) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2082424)
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fortune
129) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2082416)
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heap
130) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2082409)
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gold
131) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2082365)
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Lords
132) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2082342)
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improvise
133) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2082213)
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osmosis
134) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2082144)
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alert
135) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2082074)
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legs
136) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2082053)
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tip
137) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2081957)
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romance
138) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2081941)
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Ouch
139) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2081916)
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Wives
140) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2081903)
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hose
141) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2081713)
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cheese
142) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2081625)
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belt
143) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2081606)
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nibble
144) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2081573)
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quarry
145) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2081568)
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buds
146) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2081534)
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house
147) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2081474)
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darn
148) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2081433)
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tractor
149) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2081416)
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mash
150) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2081351)
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fade
151) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2081320)
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ghost
152) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2081300)
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evil
153) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2081195)
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spice
154) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2081183)
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clock
155) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2081151)
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bulb
156) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2081113)
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branches
157) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2081084)
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naturalist
158) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2080978)
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razor
159) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2080957)
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owe
160) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2080920)
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side
161) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2080907)
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glide
162) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2080904)
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shave
163) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2080871)
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brush
164) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2080848)
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Microsoft
165) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2080761)
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feather
166) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2080679)
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gold
167) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2080655)
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colony
168) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2080649)
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Alexandria
169) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2080645)
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bod
170) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2080586)
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over
171) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2080572)
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force
172) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2080553)
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model
173) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2080425)
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habit
174) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2080237)
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Drag
175) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2080200)
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musical
176) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2080095)
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float
177) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2080082)
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arrow
178) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2079973)
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baby
179) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2079922)
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banana
180) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2079809)
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tears
181) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2079736)
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avenge
182) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2079552)
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thrift
183) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 107 (Message 2079388)
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tail
184) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 107 (Message 2079277)
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weapons
185) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 107 (Message 2079243)
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salutation
186) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 107 (Message 2079215)
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suction
187) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 107 (Message 2079192)
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scotch
188) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 107 (Message 2079157)
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incy
189) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 107 (Message 2079124)
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scan
190) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 107 (Message 2077102)
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detective
191) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 107 (Message 2076960)
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shopping
192) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 107 (Message 2076403)
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bar
193) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2075634)
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glasses
194) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2075375)
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anti-social
195) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2074912)
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hot
196) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2074803)
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pub
197) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2074774)
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gain
198) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2074755)
Posted 2 May 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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Going
199) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2074738)
Posted 1 May 2021 by Profile cRunchy
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269) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7 (Message 2070431)
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Not good news on the vaccine front.......
Denmark suspends use of AstraZeneca’s COVID-19 vaccine following reports of blood clots.

Norway has followed suit, temporarily suspending the use of AstraZeneca’s COVID-19 vaccine.



From the same article:

...The EMA in its release also noted that the number of thromboembolic events in vaccinated people "is no higher than the number seen in the general population."

"As of 10 March 2021, 30 cases of thromboembolic events had been reported among close to 5 million people vaccinated with COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca in the European Economic Area," it said....


The jury is still out but the risks seem to be a non plus and not worth causing panic about.

I had the AstraZeneca shot this Tuesday and haven't yet experienced any symptoms or grown a third arm. Just a slight soreness which is going away where the jab was given.
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Fletcher -> Porridge:

Anybody get the connection?
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bread
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honour
397) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064870)
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398) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064856)
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399) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064842)
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clown
400) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064826)
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wavelength
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explorer
403) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064757)
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Schwarzenegger
404) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064726)
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tall
405) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064707)
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on
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mass
407) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064641)
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the
408) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064619)
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pillow
409) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064597)
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410) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064574)
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411) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064555)
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found
412) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064454)
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obligations
413) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064437)
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414) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064424)
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weigh
415) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064416)
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be
416) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064402)
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syrup
417) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064398)
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Clipper
418) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064390)
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sub
419) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064381)
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France
420) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064374)
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Celtic
421) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064359)
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Bosphorus
422) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064351)
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turkey
423) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064347)
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state
424) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Merry Xmas to all from here down under. (Message 2064340)
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Thank you Wiggo.

A merry Yuletide and Crimble to you and all Setizans also.

May your days be full of joy and warmth.
425) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064239)
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Saxon
426) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064187)
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427) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064120)
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boatswain
428) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064026)
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Smith
429) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2064015)
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Hoplite
430) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2063983)
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mind
431) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2063955)
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432) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2063948)
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pore
433) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2063945)
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poor
434) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2063924)
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Lola
435) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2063910)
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rim
436) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2063889)
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chocolate
437) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2063870)
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cult
438) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2063860)
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439) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2063823)
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trickster
440) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2063803)
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map
441) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2063787)
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Vitamins
442) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2063690)
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dregs
443) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2063645)
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Biscuits
444) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2063625)
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ripe
445) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2063552)
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port
446) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2063371)
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down
447) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2063296)
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shark
448) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2063195)
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ward
449) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2063155)
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heavenly
450) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2063124)
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Gattaca
451) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2063107)
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Spanish
452) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2063099)
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Gernika
453) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2063089)
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boules
454) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2063036)
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speed
455) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2063011)
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store
456) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062981)
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zombie
457) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062951)
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hip
458) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062919)
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lawyer
459) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062895)
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name
460) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062885)
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skim
461) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062865)
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rag
462) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062850)
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folktale
463) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062836)
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Sewing
464) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062788)
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chain
465) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062713)
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invasion
466) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062693)
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spine
467) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062651)
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Sunday
468) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062638)
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enchanted
469) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062624)
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party
470) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062603)
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paste
471) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062578)
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non-consecutive
472) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062562)
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crushed
473) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062548)
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Mock
474) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062541)
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black
475) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062530)
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predictable
476) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062525)
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courage
477) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062513)
Posted 29 Nov 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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cache
478) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062504)
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fruit
479) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link Discussion Thread V (Message 2062500)
Posted 29 Nov 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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... why is Cucumber NOT a Veggie??? ....


It has flesh, seeds and comes from a flower... all definitions of a fruit.
480) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062496)
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481) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062486)
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disco
482) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062466)
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revolted
483) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062446)
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stolen
484) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062435)
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mineral
485) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062410)
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mad
486) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062396)
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victory
487) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062380)
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pottery
488) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062359)
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pocket
489) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062346)
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circuit
490) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062342)
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press
491) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062338)
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Enemy
492) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062309)
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mechanical
493) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062301)
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forum
494) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062294)
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city
495) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062288)
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web
496) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062283)
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transport
497) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062274)
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earthquake
498) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062272)
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noise
499) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062234)
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theatre
500) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062218)
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disability
501) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062205)
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Czechoslovak
502) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062176)
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dinner
503) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062152)
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Lamb
504) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062141)
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curly
505) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062130)
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block
506) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062117)
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cap
507) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062102)
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behaviour
508) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062068)
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Illuminate
509) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062054)
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synth
510) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062047)
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wear
511) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2062020)
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beat
512) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061987)
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personal
513) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061978)
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stadium
514) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061964)
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snort
515) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061924)
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cymbals
516) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061910)
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browser
517) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061893)
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javelin
518) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061873)
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swear
519) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061856)
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velvet
520) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061847)
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thermals
521) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061818)
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dragon
522) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061775)
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orbit
523) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061736)
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footprint
524) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061705)
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pants
525) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061679)
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panel
526) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061656)
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copper
527) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061649)
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tv
528) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061633)
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Oh
529) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061586)
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product
530) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061563)
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carriage
531) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061550)
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Deep
532) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061536)
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salmon
533) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061531)
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messy
534) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061519)
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babies
535) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061494)
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bendable
536) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061487)
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void
537) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061479)
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Pet
538) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061443)
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lead
539) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061431)
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follow
540) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061424)
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541) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061417)
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542) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061410)
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stuffing
543) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061383)
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tree
544) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061375)
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545) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061354)
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balls
546) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061345)
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547) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061336)
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lord
548) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061328)
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company
549) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061307)
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special
550) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061285)
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storm
551) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061267)
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House
552) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061243)
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marvel
553) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061230)
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lycanthrope
554) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061221)
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lamb
555) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061199)
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556) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061167)
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557) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061139)
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558) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061099)
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559) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061066)
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560) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061043)
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561) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061036)
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562) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061023)
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meatballs
563) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2061013)
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lustful
564) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060976)
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Shaman
565) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060969)
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Paganism
566) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060953)
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Gordian
567) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060940)
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Fragrance
568) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060924)
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climbing
569) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060868)
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570) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060841)
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jar
571) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060818)
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fourth
572) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060785)
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failed
573) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060759)
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sea
574) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060749)
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British
575) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060728)
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zero
576) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060684)
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lovemeter
577) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060642)
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opposites
578) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060627)
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579) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060613)
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railway
580) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060566)
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skeleton
581) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060547)
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meat
582) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060541)
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583) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060538)
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horse
584) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060507)
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Fairclough
585) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060463)
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supernatural
586) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060443)
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ark
587) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060434)
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588) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060417)
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potentiometer
589) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060384)
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babble
590) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060382)
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Belgium
591) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060339)
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unusually
592) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060320)
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shot
593) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060310)
Posted 30 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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oodles
594) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060294)
Posted 30 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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cards
595) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060237)
Posted 30 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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smoke
596) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060229)
Posted 29 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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chew
597) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060199)
Posted 29 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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course
598) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060189)
Posted 29 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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shout
599) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060176)
Posted 29 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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Polish
600) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060163)
Posted 28 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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room
601) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : 'Exciting' NASA Moon Announcement Set for Monday, October 26th, 2020 (Message 2060145)
Posted 28 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
....
A colony on the moon that doesn't need to import water can be built with relative ease.


One thing that I have to question about this find is whether the water may be useful for drinking or cleaning given it's radioactivity.

It does make sense now given water that atomic energy \ batteries maybe used to drive turbines for energy to split radioactive water for hydrogen fuel.

Is the oxygen from split water still radioactive?

It looks like we still may have to ship all our human needed water with us.

Water radioactive or not would make a great barrier \ shield from solar radiation and micro meteorites.
602) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060144)
Posted 28 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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run
603) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060136)
Posted 28 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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flying
604) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060117)
Posted 28 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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Quasimodo
605) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060043)
Posted 26 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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practice
606) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word link #106 (Message 2060034)
Posted 26 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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precinct
607) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2060011)
Posted 25 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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fireworks
608) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059996)
Posted 25 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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flames
609) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059979)
Posted 24 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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pointed
610) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059945)
Posted 24 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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biscuit
611) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059931)
Posted 23 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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cinema
612) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059912)
Posted 23 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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trolley
613) Message boards : Politics : Don;t know where it should go? Stick it here 3 (Message 2059911)
Posted 23 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Can just a specific field in a database get corrupted leaving the rest of the database okay?


I've done a little db design and can think of two possible corruption scenarios.

One is where a db has become corrupted and has been 'repaired' leaving erroneous data in specific fields.

Though here I would expect other errors in other field to pop up.

The second is where in updating the db the programmer has made a mistake in the schema (mapping of field) meaning all 'future inputs become erroneous.

Or for example if a field is auto filled and the algorithm behind that field has been altered. For example the wrong tax rate is used to calculate a field.

Often those who input data trust the backend calculations and never visually check a field for correctness.

Strange things can happen in the world of databasing but it is a question of likelihood.

Do you know for a fact that all fields for all other records are corrupt also?
614) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059879)
Posted 23 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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cotton
615) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059872)
Posted 23 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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mars
616) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059861)
Posted 23 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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Vixen
617) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059856)
Posted 23 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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economic
618) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059836)
Posted 22 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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Data
619) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059828)
Posted 22 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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Admiral :-)
620) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059819)
Posted 22 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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soap-opera
621) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059787)
Posted 22 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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legislation
622) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059729)
Posted 21 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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garlic
623) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059720)
Posted 21 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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chemical
624) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059695)
Posted 20 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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brooch
625) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059672)
Posted 20 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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Longshanks
626) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059666)
Posted 20 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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root
627) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059649)
Posted 19 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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tea-picker
628) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059642)
Posted 19 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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fly
629) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059619)
Posted 19 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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bowel
630) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059601)
Posted 19 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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Mexican
631) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059584)
Posted 18 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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brown
632) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059567)
Posted 18 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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fridge
633) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059555)
Posted 18 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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pirate
634) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059542)
Posted 17 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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dental
635) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059524)
Posted 17 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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flesh
636) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059498)
Posted 17 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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lifetimes
637) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059478)
Posted 17 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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apocalypse
638) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPHW #298 (Message 2059477)
Posted 17 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Late night at the witching hour. Spooky <|:-)
639) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059451)
Posted 16 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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Plato
640) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059420)
Posted 16 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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Sheep
641) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059391)
Posted 16 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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cat
642) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059388)
Posted 16 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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field
643) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059326)
Posted 15 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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petrol
644) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059143)
Posted 13 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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driver
645) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059124)
Posted 13 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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organic
646) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059087)
Posted 13 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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nay
647) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2059007)
Posted 12 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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clouds
648) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2058998)
Posted 12 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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cash
649) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2058966)
Posted 12 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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Vinegar
650) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2058800)
Posted 10 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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blade
651) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2058511)
Posted 7 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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short
652) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2058422)
Posted 6 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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ring
653) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2058343)
Posted 5 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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face
654) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2058325)
Posted 4 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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mouse
655) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2058253)
Posted 4 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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sportswear
656) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2058232)
Posted 3 Oct 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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sale
657) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2057912)
Posted 29 Sep 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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birds
658) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2057847)
Posted 28 Sep 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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riot
659) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2057818)
Posted 28 Sep 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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clothing
660) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2057769)
Posted 27 Sep 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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Pukka
661) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2057732)
Posted 26 Sep 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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hard
662) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2057688)
Posted 25 Sep 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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ruler
663) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2057473)
Posted 22 Sep 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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mental
664) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2057446)
Posted 21 Sep 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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Potato
665) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2057113)
Posted 15 Sep 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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Dutch
666) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2057088)
Posted 15 Sep 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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will
667) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2057036)
Posted 14 Sep 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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snore
668) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2056875)
Posted 11 Sep 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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Islam
669) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2056745)
Posted 9 Sep 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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manga
670) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2056720)
Posted 9 Sep 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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lands
671) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2056647)
Posted 7 Sep 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
bog
672) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2056620)
Posted 7 Sep 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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Báthory
673) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2056578)
Posted 6 Sep 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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ritual
674) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2056575)
Posted 6 Sep 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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along
675) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2056566)
Posted 6 Sep 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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weight
676) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2056270)
Posted 2 Sep 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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soul
677) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2056230)
Posted 1 Sep 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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bark
678) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Stars are blue, Panthers are pink and the music plays here (Message 2056154)
Posted 31 Aug 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Hi cRunchy, but what else could you next be comparing with?


It's wise to simply see, hear or speak no evil.
679) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Stars are blue, Panthers are pink and the music plays here (Message 2056150)
Posted 31 Aug 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I go with the monkey hypothesis.


Or remember the 3 wise monkeys ;)
680) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2056145)
Posted 31 Aug 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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bonsai
681) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2056081)
Posted 29 Aug 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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Tarantata
682) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2055746)
Posted 24 Aug 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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unlucky
683) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link Discussion Thread IV (Message 2055745)
Posted 24 Aug 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Are yiddish words allows:

In the opening credits of Laverne & Shirley, Laverne and Shirley recite a Yiddish-American hopscotch chant: "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. Schlemiel! Schlimazel! Hasenpfeffer Incorporated."


First off the common language of the forum is English - not that that detract from other languages being used here and there.

I think the concept is the same regardless of language.

For me the term or word from a different language must be in common usage within the English spoken community at large.

So "Schmuck" (Yiddish: 'Stupid Person'... ) may be OK but "Shadi-Shudi" (Urdu: 'Married') may not be due to their usage within English spoken communities.

Of course older generations may remember Laverne & Shirley more but for the community as a whole any linguistic heritage is of less impact these days.

I guess the best test is to ask if a majority of others will understand.

(Just some thoughts. What do others think?)
684) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2055513)
Posted 19 Aug 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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reproduction
685) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2055269)
Posted 14 Aug 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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bondage
686) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2055267)
Posted 14 Aug 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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serf
687) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2055220)
Posted 13 Aug 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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bounce
688) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2055051)
Posted 10 Aug 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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Warcraft
689) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2054808)
Posted 6 Aug 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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vampire
690) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2054787)
Posted 6 Aug 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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upright
691) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2054773)
Posted 6 Aug 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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makeup
692) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2054767)
Posted 6 Aug 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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valid
693) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2054750)
Posted 5 Aug 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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army
694) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2054379)
Posted 30 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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atone
695) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2054350)
Posted 30 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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dementia
696) Message boards : Cafe SETI : International Friendship Day (Message 2054338)
Posted 30 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
International Friendship Day

It is today in the UK. It's all over the year for other countries it seems.

However here is a spot to celebrate it's meanings and intentions.

So thank you SETI for giving us (me included) that oppourtunity to make friends.

.... And a big wave to the friends I have personally made over the years.


697) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2054313)
Posted 29 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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robot
698) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2054299)
Posted 29 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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water
699) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2054293)
Posted 29 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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nebulous
700) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2054248)
Posted 28 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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mask
701) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2054220)
Posted 27 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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Joker
702) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2054211)
Posted 27 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Crème-brûlée
703) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2054197)
Posted 27 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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Hades
704) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2054195)
Posted 27 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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Ferryman
705) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2054184)
Posted 27 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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Resurrectionists
706) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2054065)
Posted 25 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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Doe
707) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2053911)
Posted 23 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
bog
708) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2053853)
Posted 22 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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jaguar
709) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2053849)
Posted 22 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Lion
710) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2053812)
Posted 22 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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time
711) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2053780)
Posted 21 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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slug
712) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2053777)
Posted 21 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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Casper
713) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2053770)
Posted 21 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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sing-along
714) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2053767)
Posted 21 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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peace
715) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2053764)
Posted 21 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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Krishna
716) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2053760)
Posted 21 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Vedic
717) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #105 (Message 2053725)
Posted 20 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Olympic
718) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2053597)
Posted 18 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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Tapestry
719) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2053573)
Posted 18 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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dollybird
720) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link Discussion Thread IV (Message 2053420)
Posted 16 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
....
... And remember others may head off in a different direction because they see a different linkage to the one you expected ...

This is the most fun part of the game for me. The unexpected.

Perhaps there is some area for interpretation. Acronyms can both be proper names and descriptives:

B.B.C. is a proper name just like Clint-Eastwood and we allow proper names from time to time.

S.A.M. is a descriptive as in "surface-to-air missile".

What about USA?

Perhaps better to just avoid where possible?
721) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link Discussion Thread IV (Message 2053418)
Posted 16 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Are acronyms allowed?
The Admiral's B.A.A.L.


Our Admiral is a master of word link so maybe :)

Theoretically an acronym could be seen as a (hyphenated) linked set of words with special singular meaning.

Perhaps these rules apply? :

    -A hyphen is allowed if the word makes sense in its entirety.

    -One letter words are allowed (you can't actually post a one letter word but it will work when you put a punctuation mark behind it (or just a space:)

    -Abbreviations are allowed

722) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2053416)
Posted 16 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
tongue
723) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2053407)
Posted 16 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Beelzebub
724) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2053376)
Posted 15 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
semaphore
725) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2053349)
Posted 15 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Ah good, so not me then. Thought I'd lost my mind...
...what am I doing here?
:-)

I'm not sure, but I think that happens when a mod moves a post to another thread.
If the post is hidden though, the last post time moves back to before that post was posted.

As I said, I'm not sure I'm right about that.


You are right Grumpy.

The time reflects the last visible post.

That resets when a post is moved or hidden to the previous viewable post time \ date.
726) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2053267)
Posted 14 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Town
727) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2053228)
Posted 6 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
ferry-man
728) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2053170)
Posted 4 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
eraser
729) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2053109)
Posted 3 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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feet
730) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2053092)
Posted 3 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
shift
731) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2053058)
Posted 2 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
hill
732) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Stars are blue, Panthers are pink and the music plays here (Message 2053057)
Posted 2 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...
Only just a dime, for that of a dollar, and still crown and coin, for also heads or tails, and for that we could still flip around, for only different possibilities.
...

Nice line Bluestar. Symmetry and motion.

...
Just the flip of the coin it could be still, and next also a 50/50 chance of just proving something, for not any Fractional calculus it could be instead.
...

They always say it is 50\50 chance but what if the coin falls on it's edge or disappears out of view down the rabbit hole :)

Which reminds me. Time to look down the back of the settee for lost treasure....
733) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2053049)
Posted 2 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Eden
734) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2053044)
Posted 2 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
mac
735) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2053001)
Posted 1 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Lone-Ranger
736) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2052990)
Posted 1 Jul 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
9
737) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2052975)
Posted 30 Jun 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
fate
738) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2052973)
Posted 30 Jun 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
wiggle
739) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2052936)
Posted 30 Jun 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
aft
740) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2052861)
Posted 28 Jun 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Penny-Farthing
741) Message boards : Politics : International shipping (Message 2052796)
Posted 27 Jun 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... My package arrived on June 22 and had a sticker attached with just the numbers 6-20 written on it. .....


One thought. Your customs or postal agency may be working in 'quarantine batches' given your package will possibly be reinfected in the mail bins.

Plastic will hold living virus for 3 days but that is only if your mail is separately quarantined in it's own box. Each box will only come available after 3 days of self quarantine.

Obviously they can't separate mail individually so quarantine batches is the most logical. 14 days seems logical if you add all the normal delays on top.

Here in the UK I see no difference in time for the small electronic component I receive from china. It takes forever as normal ;)
742) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link Discussion Thread IV (Message 2052726)
Posted 26 Jun 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
colonoscopy-violated
You had what put where and how deep in? And it was this big around . I was violated.


Ouch :(

Better than my link I was thinking colonoscopy <-> incredible-shrinking-man..
or was that 'stinking-man' ;)
743) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2052725)
Posted 26 Jun 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
rules
744) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2052708)
Posted 25 Jun 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
trailer
745) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2052536)
Posted 22 Jun 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
time
746) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2052189)
Posted 18 Jun 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
rain-forest
747) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2052164)
Posted 17 Jun 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
hermetic
748) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2051962)
Posted 15 Jun 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
corner
749) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2051621)
Posted 11 Jun 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
tails
750) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2051041)
Posted 4 Jun 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Lederhosen
751) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2051037)
Posted 4 Jun 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Unsuitability to lead (elected or otherwise) seems to be a universal trait sadly.

Concern for leadership in the USA is understandable given it's power in the world but none of us seem to have bright sparks for our leaders, movers or shakers.
752) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2050962)
Posted 3 Jun 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
scurvy
753) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2050474)
Posted 28 May 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Comedy
754) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2050327)
Posted 25 May 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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Igor
755) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2050182)
Posted 24 May 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
messengers
756) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2049892)
Posted 21 May 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
dive
757) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2049849)
Posted 20 May 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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teenager
758) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #6 (Message 2049847)
Posted 20 May 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...

... keep a healthy distance so that others can live through this pandemic...


Whilst it is natural that people get fed up with all the lock down measures and can't see the wood for the trees it is always sound advise to be cautious.

Some may not have experienced issues with covid in their own (or family's or friend's) lives so it would seem less important to them.

I see simple precautions that we can all take as no different to all those people who chance vaccines so that they 'and the whole' can remain safe.

Some never take vaccines or inoculations due to disbelief but they benefit from others doing so non the less. (Polio comes to mind.)

Unless someone shows me a grand conspiracy by mask, gloves and sign manufacturers I'll do my bit as well as thank others for doing theirs.
759) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2049816)
Posted 20 May 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Grub
760) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2049706)
Posted 19 May 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Bahamas
761) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2049636)
Posted 19 May 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
coward
762) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2049591)
Posted 18 May 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
curry-sauce
763) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2049296)
Posted 15 May 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Hydro
764) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2049246)
Posted 15 May 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
tank
765) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2049181)
Posted 14 May 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
mate
766) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2049018)
Posted 13 May 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Guillotine
767) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2048575)
Posted 8 May 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Cacophony
768) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2048203)
Posted 5 May 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Ankh
769) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2048024)
Posted 3 May 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Scythe
770) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2047910)
Posted 2 May 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
slammer
771) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link Discussion Thread IV (Message 2047850)
Posted 1 May 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
On a tangent Tigelan is also the Anglo-Saxon word for 'brick.'

Not that we Anglo-Saxon descendants use that word anymore. We just call it an oblong-squarish-house-making-thingy... and we don't use dung anymore (mostly.) :)
772) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2047813)
Posted 1 May 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
kiln :)
773) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2047708)
Posted 30 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
angry
774) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2047548)
Posted 29 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
camping
775) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2047454)
Posted 28 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
marathon
776) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2047419)
Posted 28 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Athens
777) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2047256)
Posted 27 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
pub
778) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2047253)
Posted 27 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Back-alley
779) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2047241)
Posted 27 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
vinegar
780) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2047203)
Posted 27 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
ketchup
781) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2047142)
Posted 26 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Sandwich
782) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2046921)
Posted 25 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
cider
783) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2046703)
Posted 24 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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knees
784) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2046391)
Posted 22 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
mineral
785) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #6 (Message 2046364)
Posted 22 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The argument of not listing deaths in patients with comorbidity factors is a red herring. Those comorbidity factors were under control by drugs or therapy before the stress of the virus was added to the picture. So whether it was the prime killer or just the trigger it still ultimately caused the fatality.


I think this is a point of logic.

I do think however we should register such deaths as 'co-morbidity' and list complicating effects or illnesses.

I also think we should register all the current medication, immunisations and illnesses a person is effected by in general that shows covid positive (or perhaps negative.)

The argument around 'Quinine' ('Cinchona') is a case in point. I have seen no research pointing to the millions of Quinine users where lower morbidity is shown.

Statistically I would have thought that somewhere or within some groups there is an effect on Covid morbidity for some reason or another however unexpected or overlooked.
786) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2046212)
Posted 21 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
warbirds
787) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2046211)
Posted 21 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Thought there would be agreement, but I expected at least one voice of dissent.



For a moment there I thought I was in the Cafe :)
788) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2046038)
Posted 20 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
perspective
789) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2044798)
Posted 14 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
crowing
790) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2044615)
Posted 13 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Verde
791) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2044460)
Posted 13 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Samba
792) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2044453)
Posted 13 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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Nuts
793) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2044130)
Posted 10 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
tower
794) Message boards : SETI Perspectives : How Did Life Begin-On Earth and Elsewhere? (Message 2044073)
Posted 10 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
But isn't the universe tending to entropy, which is to say disorder?
Assume the Big Bang was maximum order, haven't we been trending towards disorder ever since?


The concept of what we mean by 'disorder' is an interesting one.

Take the big bang. If, and I stress if, the big bang was so ordered then it could never of expanded into disorder!

If gravity and distance are some measuring sticks then the universe was simply compressed alongside any disorder.

The universe today is just as disordered as it was billions of years ago. We just simply have more distance and weaker gravitational pull or compression.

As our measuring tools are also effected by the same gravitational and distancing forces it is hard to see exactly what disorder might of look like way back when.

Entropy does not have to mean disorder. The energy that seems to be lost could simply be a change of it's state into one that we can not yet see or measure. (Maybe Dark Matter even?)

Entropy could actually be part of a very ordered system. The vastness of the universe makes it difficult to see the ebb and flow.

Disorder or entropy for me are a matter of perspective or vantage point.
795) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2044070)
Posted 10 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Manual
796) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2044024)
Posted 10 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
protocol
797) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2043734)
Posted 8 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Platonic
798) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2043637)
Posted 8 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
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Manchurian
799) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2043310)
Posted 6 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Syrup-Of-Figs
800) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #6 (Message 2042876)
Posted 4 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Something I've been thinking about. What is happening with all the other things that go on worldwide? The whole damn new is only about the pandemic or other related topics.

+1

To the rest of us it can seem if it ain't about covid (important) or Trump or about something else about the USA like guns it really doesn't get discussed here!
801) Message boards : News : SETI@home hibernation (Message 2042866)
Posted 4 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I am proud to see so many people posting their feelings about the hiatus of SETI for the moment.

Many have hardly posted over the life time of their service.

They say it is the quiet ones that change the universe and I am sure that is true.

Well done people.

The forums will stay open for the foreseeable future as well as your teams personal forums.

Stay in touch and know you are important here.
802) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Makes A Setizen? (Message 2042794)
Posted 3 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...
That's normal in Birmingham though?
...
Are you referring to Birmingham on the moon or in Alabama? (No actually don't respond to that. Leave us guessing!)



Oh my goodness. When you called us Setizens to help you cool your GPU we didn't realise you had frozen it in jello. What the hell flavour is that anyway?

... and what's that big sticky outy thing!
803) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Makes A Setizen? (Message 2042785)
Posted 3 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


"If we act normal they might not even notice we are Setizens"
804) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Does the scarcity of toilet paper in the grocery stores (Message 2042197)
Posted 1 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Since supermarkets here have imposed social distancing and a one in one out policy we have started to see more food on the shelves.

(Rather than the selfish (car) drivers raiding the shelves and screwing over everybody else.)

My father tells me it feels like it did when he was young. Rationing from WW2 didn't stop in the UK until around 1954.

I doubt the present right wing government would have imagined bringing in socialist rules but I doubt we would disagree.

A good tip for smokers is should you run out of TP there is always Rizala's. Get em whilst you can. (Just avoid the menthol flavoured.)
805) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Day Sadness (Message 2042169)
Posted 1 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I'm a sad raccoon today.


I join you as a sad penny stamp :(
806) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Makes A Setizen? (Message 2042164)
Posted 1 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I can remember the changes and periods in my own life when SETI was there as a place to be.

You've Been A Friend To Me.


I always thought this might be on a setizens playlist?
807) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Recipes and Food II (Message 2042121)
Posted 1 Apr 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Anybody trying anything out of the ordinary during the COVID-19 self-quarantine?

I'm not. Just the usual stuff.



Some are in the make do phase having to reach deep into their stocks. This is true of big eaters like families with younger kids and small eaters but low income like homeless, disabled and people with health issues per-ce.

Chatted with my daughter this evening who told me her, her husband and the three nippers were all having to make interesting meals out of yesterdays leftovers.

I still have a few tins to get through and plenty of flour and oats to make bread from.

As a kid I remember the shortages from coal strikes and oil shortages.

We would huddle in one room and smell then eat home made soda bread.

It was a lovely together time.
808) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Makes A Setizen? (Message 2042099)
Posted 31 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
A Setizen is a dreamer. We have all been dreaming to find some other out there but it was only a dream. Dreams die at dawn and now we are waking up to a reality which is ugly. I am confined at home now and cannot visit my sons and their sons because of corovirus. SETI@home was an escape from a sad truth.
Tullio


You are right a future without SETI in our lives does seem somewhat ugly or at least dull.

I think if a Setizen was alive when Crystal Palace was opened they would have bought up all the first tickets as well as loads of popcorn.

They might have even snuck in their own homemade sandwiches.

What was it we all felt when we first got involved?
809) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #6 (Message 2042084)
Posted 31 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.....while Turkey is the fast riser to watch ATM.
...


From this side of the pond Turkey along with Italy, Greece and Iran + Iraq and Pakistan are ones to watch as they are all border countries between continental or cultural areas.

I suspect it is in the firmament that the best statistics are to be found (as long as the statistics are correct.)
810) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2042068)
Posted 31 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
liners
811) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Makes A Setizen? (Message 2042066)
Posted 31 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
What makes a typical Setizen?

What is it to be a Setizen?


Any humorous or serious thoughts welcome.

Truth or fantasy are also welcomed.

What does a typical Setizen eat?

What do they wear?

What are their beliefs or politics?

Are they lucky in love even?

All are fair questions.

Even your own true story is welcome.

(No negativity towards others is accepted.)

Have fun in this thread.

Add pictures, youtubes, historic posts or anything that shares your ideas about 'Setizenship.'

.
812) Message boards : News : Final data is in the splitter queue. (Message 2042062)
Posted 31 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Eric, what are you going to do about the requirement of RAC > 1 to be able to post on the main forums?
Another +1

Maybe make it Credit > 1 ??
+1

This sounds about the most logical approach...

... as well as making the help forums the same.

Or maybe close sign-ups for the project as a whole BUT allow all current members to post regardless of RAC except for those on a ban.
813) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2041661)
Posted 30 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Handles
814) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2041601)
Posted 30 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Momentary
815) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2041390)
Posted 29 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
china
816) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2041347)
Posted 29 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Barrier
817) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2041335)
Posted 29 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
coral
818) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rest in Peace, Jim Scott (Message 2041333)
Posted 29 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Jim was one of those people that always seemed to be around in our lives.
As a Setizen and a TTFE'er he will be missed.

Jim wrote a bit of poetry.

I think this is a nice one to remember him by:

OPTIMIST

When I Arise each Morning
Another Day to See

I look to find some Simple thing
And spend some time Amazed

May be but a wisp of air
With Scent of flowers in it's grasp

Or Friends that I will never see
That make me Smile or Laugh

The frost upon the windowpanes
The Sunbeams drifting past

So Thankful for the chance to See
The Life out in the Land

And know there still remains the dream
Of Betterment for You and Me

It's then with Thanks I form a Smile
And sometimes Laugh Aloud

At Everything around Me
And Me the small but Proud


Jim Scott - 2/10/2006
819) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2041053)
Posted 28 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
essence
820) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2040990)
Posted 28 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
wright
821) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2040738)
Posted 27 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Confederate
822) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Source code / graphics front end code (Message 2040734)
Posted 27 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Is this close to what you are looking for?

https://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/SourceCodeGit

or this for S@H nightlies:

https://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/seti_source/nightly
823) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #6 (Message 2040654)
Posted 26 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
....
Lots and lots of open borders, and globalization stuff will change after this. China will no longer be the great manufacturer of the world.
We're going into a new world order, and I fear that this will also lead to nationalism of the worst kind.


It won't work.

Look at the UK. It's manufacturing days are over. Little oil, little coal and no real mineral deposits except for chalk.

We need China and other countries. We need Afghanistan for example for its copper deposits.

Globalisation keeps capitalism rolling and capitalism keeps uber nationalism at bay.

Only when the resources run low or government or managed economies fail will we see a recedence of globalisation.

Though we will have a more cautious and troubled period for a short while for sure.

No doubt various vacuous politicians will try to capitalise on the tragedy of covid :(
824) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #6 (Message 2040652)
Posted 26 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
A couple of thoughts of the day.

After 45 years of the cold war, a bug panics the world.

When this is all over, how many officials will still insist on open borders.


Some after the cold war have been looking for new enemies. It could have been anything.

Perhaps what it suggests is a need for more open co-operation and resource sharing.

If not a move towards borderless ideals then perhaps we can take from the way an organism works with cells supporting and functioning alongside other cells as if in one human societal host.

A bug has no politics and is something we should all be able to come together on...

In theory ;)
825) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #6 (Message 2040651)
Posted 26 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
For those who are interested in keeping an eye on the statistics for covid here are some sites:


Center for Systems Science and Engineering. (Johns Hopkins.) Current Worldwide Data. (Nice Dashboard.)

(Mobile Version Of Above.)

===

CDC (Centre For Disease Control. USA.) Current USA Data.

===

European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control. (EU.) Has current downloadable Excel data.

===


Anyone fancying putting together an app or script to download, collate and display data for covid in a simple format I would love to join in. PM me.
826) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2040637)
Posted 26 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
underwear
827) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2040156)
Posted 24 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
pit
828) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2039485)
Posted 21 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Perhaps you still don't understand that today there are no cure against the corona virus SARS-CoV-2 that causes the COVID-19. There are plenty of companies that are working on it but everyone of them are also saying that it will take at least one year to release a working drug or vaccine. Then of course there are companies that are looking for funding...


Hackaday had a good article on the basic process and timescale for the yearly flu jab:

THE STRAIN OF FLU SHOT LOGISTICS

Even with emergency rules and willingness to jump over certain standard procedures it is going to take time for a vaccine.

That's assuming a vaccine is needed in a year or so and some other nasty hasn't reared it's head.
829) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2039449)
Posted 21 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Tibetan
830) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2039387)
Posted 21 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
clan
831) Message boards : Cafe SETI : update on Monday (this account) (Message 2039376)
Posted 21 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Monday has always been such a great part of out Setizen life.

He was also part of the same cross-project team as me: TFFE (The Final Front Ear.)

I shall be updating the team soon as he was well loved.

Wishing your family hope and warmth at this sad time Vincent.

Keep in touch and keep crunching. If not for SETI then for any of the other projects out there.

If you need help figuring out how things work around here then just ask someone on your Dad's friend list or in one of the forum sections here.

Oh and welcome to "The Final Front Ear." The bigest littlest team and the best kept secret in the universe.

cRunchy
Pete
832) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2039272)
Posted 20 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Jesus
833) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2039215)
Posted 20 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
dream
834) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2039100)
Posted 20 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
beast
835) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Does the scarcity of toilet paper in the grocery stores (Message 2038875)
Posted 19 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Some of those figures are wrong. For example:

Italy  1506   60,461,826   521.0891249


Should be 24.9 cases per million not 521. (Assuming population and individual cases are correct.) (EG: 1506 / 60.461826)
836) Message boards : SETI@home Science : The Database (Message 2038843)
Posted 19 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
GPU's of sorts did exist as they are just dedicated CPU's or maths processors.

TV cards with graphics processors were around.

Analog processing that we so much try to emulate with digital and AI today was certainly around.

Honeywell (a name we hear little of today) is touting it's break through in quantum processing. Maybe a nod from Berkeley might get the SETI@Home DB processing posed as a good test project.

I'm still unsure as to why we can't break up the database and ship out WU's to run algorithms against.

BreakThrough offers out parts of it's database and some help for developers to join in so it must be possible somehow.

I guess things and perspectives and technologies have changed over the years but (in theory) the data in the base has not. We just have to apply our new tools to these old chunks of data.

(I assume the data in the database relates to chunks of the sky scanned and has not been fouled some way.)
837) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Stars are blue, Panthers are pink and the music plays here (Message 2038840)
Posted 19 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Sometimes
once in a while
there is poetry
838) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Does the scarcity of toilet paper in the grocery stores (Message 2038832)
Posted 19 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...
The humorous officer who penned the plea offered some options for those who can’t live without toilet paper...

He suggests from your article:

Mother Earth News magazine will even tell you how to make your own wipes using fifteen different leaves.


Wish I had read that before trying out the nettles. :(
839) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Does the scarcity of toilet paper in the grocery stores (Message 2038826)
Posted 19 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Well this afternoon I went to do a bit of shopping at my local Sainsburys (supermarket.)

Gob smacked I was at all the people wandering aimelessly until I noticed half the shelves were empty.

Even the beer isle was decimated (OMG!)

The checkout person said they had had a run on stock goods with ques of people at 8am raiding the shelves.

(Mostly car drivers I suspect given the area.)

Latter on this evening I looked at ordering some items I needed from the ASDA supermarket online only to be met with no delivery spots for the next 14 days..

What has got into these people.

I fear for the elderly or low income people who don't drive, don't use the internet and shop daily or weekly.

I also fear for the masses turning up in a supermarket jossling for items and condensing the chance of catching bugs.

Which brings me to protection.

Given the shortage of surgical masks there are some suprising alternatives.

The simplest being T-Shirt material.


I suspect "Never Mind The B*ll*cks" might be a suitable T shirt to wear around ones mouth.

That and avoid greedy people in cars who go home with 40 tins of beans.

No wonder the TP is in such demand.
840) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Does the scarcity of toilet paper in the grocery stores (Message 2038824)
Posted 19 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
+1 William.


+1

Like your art.
841) Message boards : SETI@home Science : The Database (Message 2038754)
Posted 18 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
There are a number of threads around the 'hibernation' of SETI@Home so I would not like to get into feelings here.

I would however like to understand the idea of the end product of our WUs as a database and how the next step works.

It has been suggested that, for example, the database can not be divided into parts and processed \ tested against algorithms (models.) (EG: Can not be sent out to us to process as units to work on.)

I would in lay-person's terms like to understand this better.

Can someone with knowledge help us understand 'the database' and how it is structured with our WUs and how models (EG: 'that sounds like ET' and 'that is ET speaking to us.' ..) might be applied.

Other interesting questions are welcomed.

.
842) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Does the scarcity of toilet paper in the grocery stores (Message 2038562)
Posted 17 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.... but carrots?


Perhaps carrots filled the gap somehow when no TP was available.!

Mmmm. Well buttered carrots ;) (Best with tops left on I imagine.)
843) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2038486)
Posted 17 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
packets
844) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2038161)
Posted 15 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
sensual
845) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2038136)
Posted 15 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Tinned
846) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2038119)
Posted 15 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
What do you call a bunch of older men who organise a contest called "Look of the Year" when the contestants were girls and in one year it was reported the average age was 15.

... ...
It's not new.

The powerful often think their flakiness is normal.

It is always more than sad. :(
Perhaps contraception failed and at least one can still be brought to justice.


I hope that no young girl \ woman finds themselves in a situation where they get pregnant before they are fully prepared to make that choice for themselves.
847) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2038114)
Posted 15 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
What do you call a bunch of older men who organise a contest called "Look of the Year" when the contestants were girls and in one year it was reported the average age was 15.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/14/teen-models-powerful-men-when-donald-trump-hosted-look-of-the-year


It's not new.

The powerful often think their flakiness is normal.

It is always more than sad. :(
848) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Does the scarcity of toilet paper in the grocery stores (Message 2037468)
Posted 12 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
mean that the poo is about to hit the fan?
asking for a friend.


Reporting in from England:

Brits have oodles of loo paper with a vast supply of 'fish n chip' paper as back up.

Suggest you Americans get used to the squat and teapot method should all else fail.

Reports say that sea shells are also in demand.

I bet it's those tow-rag Corona virus hoarders to blame.
849) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #6 (Message 2037445)
Posted 12 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...
Well Trump is a genius and knowing that Brits are not contagious but the rest of Europe are.


During the medieval black plague Britain was the end of the road (at least in our direction.)

The plague was thought to have started somewhere in India.

During the AIDES outbreak it was discovered that many who were immune (in the USA) were descendants of the same villages and places that survived the plague in Britain.

Maybe us filthy Brits are just genetically God's chosen people. ;)
850) Message boards : News : SETI@home hibernation (Message 2037436)
Posted 12 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
What is meant by "diminishing returns"?


Sometimes it means the inability to see changes with an invigorated perspective or with fresh eyes.

It's not always about the numbers.

I see in this thread a lot of people who don't post much but contribute massively.

All have come to say that SETI is not a diminishing return but a living value.

After all what is the point in finding ET if we don't care or have no vested interest in growing and exploring the new.

SETI crunchers, their inputs, willingness to pay their way and this forum's members are all a positive return.

I hope the bosses of this project realise this potential and find a way of keeping us together and crunching for SETI.

After all SETI can crunch anything related to ET not just archain radio signals.

.
851) Message boards : News : SETI@home hibernation (Message 2037424)
Posted 12 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...
Hehe, the result: We just found -10 ET's :-)


Perhaps ET exists or conveys their messages in the dark matter realm. - or + 80% more likely.
852) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2036647)
Posted 8 Mar 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
circuit
853) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2033600)
Posted 23 Feb 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
digits
854) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2033595)
Posted 22 Feb 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
roman
855) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2030651)
Posted 3 Feb 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
herring
856) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2030327)
Posted 1 Feb 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Onomatopoeic
857) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 104 (Message 2028815)
Posted 23 Jan 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
squiggle
858) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPHW #291 (Message 2028632)
Posted 20 Jan 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Listening to Star Trek TNG on internet radio for the seeing impaired.


Love talking books. What radio station (url?)

Winning with a question :)
859) Message boards : Cafe SETI : the last year of the decade is 2020, the first year of the new decade is 2021 (Message 2028615)
Posted 20 Jan 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... 1BC and 1AD in itself as well. ;-)


1BC to 1AD is an odd one in itself as that is two years (or near enough.)

-1 to +1 is 2 by my maths? (Or 1.99r)

Which just convinces me that where we consider a decade actually starts is oft more about numerology than fact.

...limitations Roman numeric system...


Rome had a system of decimals (poorly inscribed.) I wonder if the imperial measures of 12 month, 12 inches, a dozen eggs.. came from very late rome 400+ AD (or christo-rome?.)
860) Message boards : Cafe SETI : the last year of the decade is 2020, the first year of the new decade is 2021 (Message 2028564)
Posted 19 Jan 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...
A cardinal decade: The last year of the decade is 2019, the first year of the new decade is 2020.
I think most people use a cardinal decade. The same goes for centuries. For instance in Scandinavia we never say that we now live in the 21'st century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decade


Here in the UK I would say we live in the 20th century.

I think some have a problem counting from zero.

For me it is a question of when something existed from. For example:

Was you first year from zero \ birth to 1 OR from 1 to 2?

Also some don't feel comfortable with the undefinable split between one moment and the next. Say between midnight new years eve and new years day. It too is a kind of zero.

It's an interesting discussion.

Which side do we fall on the breadth of a hair.

Or alternatively we could just accept the hair \ cusp - ie: the absolute 0, 10, 20 etc.
861) Message boards : Cafe SETI : the last year of the decade is 2020, the first year of the new decade is 2021 (Message 2028522)
Posted 19 Jan 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
An inch starts at one inch, if you cut 3/4" you have 1/4" left.

We never had a year zero we went from 1BC to 1AD.

Write zero in Roman Numerals!


Zero was known but not expressed. It was not until our European Hindo-european languages accepted the idea of ziffar \ zero that we could express in written language \ maths the idea of naught.

However zero and null are not the same in any way.

Our christian calendar starts at 0 \ zero point as that was when Jesus was born. His first birthday was when he was 1 year older. His 100th was when he was on the first moment or the apex of 100 years.

2020 is 2 decades on top of two millenia.

Whichever way we look at it 10 is 10 or 9.999r or 10.001r-.

All lead to the same. 2020 is a cusp moment in which the new decade begins just as the new life of the christ and therefore christain calendar existed on day 0.1r-.

Each new year (for me) starts with 0.0r1
862) Message boards : Politics : Computers & Technology 4 (Message 2028515)
Posted 19 Jan 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Thanks, tried dual booting several years ago & only had issues with it. Liked XP with the various programs I used. Sadly, they ran reduced or with lost features with successive O/S's.
Don't intend trusting MS again with Win 10, which imo, is a pigs dinner.
I've used Mint before & liked it.


XP is still a wonderful OS except when using the internet unless you use a current firefox derivative like 'Basilisk' web browser.

I don't like win 10 but that is just my opinion.

Dual boot works well if you install Win7 first and allow Mint to set the boot \ grub details.

Horses for courses.

Whatever suits you best.
863) Message boards : Politics : Computers & Technology 4 (Message 2028506)
Posted 19 Jan 2020 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Question for Linux users, especially Mint. Does Mint have any hardware restrictions? I'm keeping my Win 7 network running & offline & thinking of pulling a quad core out of retirement & running Mint for Net surfing, e-mailing etc.


Mint is a nice easy distro based on Ubuntu or Debian so will run with anything they do.

I have it as a dual boot on a SFF quad core and it works well.

Why not do dual boot and get the best of both worlds.

I use Mint for microprocessor development \ building but it also works well for everday PC use.

Win 7 is my main however as it has more interesting applications to use or try.
.
864) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #6 (Message 2022826)
Posted 11 Dec 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
..<snip>...
a sign that the violence of November has indeed extended the outbreak in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC), which is now in its 16th month.

A total of 391 suspected cases are still under investigation.


We never stop to think how disasters (human or natural) increase dramatically the cases of disease and infection.

Not just Ebola but you can bet many more unrecorded have died from dysentery, flue and so on. The simplest diseases become major killers.

People outside the conflict or disaster zones are not immune to consequences or communicable diseases either given populations rightfully try to migrate to safer areas.

Lots of reasons not to ignore conflict or disaster where ever it happens.

Thanks Lynn for keeping watch.
865) Message boards : Politics : BREXIT (Message 2021974)
Posted 6 Dec 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
What address do I use to ensure this industrial sized pack of knee protectors reaches him personally?
Boris Johnson: Lying politicians should be made to 'go on their knees'


* 10 Downing Street.

* BJ Care of House Of Commons.

* Send it via the Queen. Via Her Majesty's Government.

Or via the ballot next week :)
866) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What would they say? (Message 2021391)
Posted 2 Dec 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I'm just curious on this. If (and that's a pretty big if) we were to receive a decipherable message from an alien species who knew and understood our languages from having studied us for years, or even decades, what do you think that first message would say?


I guess from about 1880 to 1910 the first voice based radio transmissions might have made it just out beyond our atmosphere intact so doubt any ET outside of our solar system would have picked up much.

Even so, if we account for technologies we have not yet developed, I would hate to think aliens had only ever received the imperialistic jingoisms of the early 1900s.

Just for amusement youtube has this link..

Whilst theoretically radio waves may travel on forever the fact is they don't. They dissipate (eg: inverse sq law) and they are blocked by objects or dust and they are deflected by solar winds, gravity et-al.

.. but still... I hope ET got an ear full of punk rock... and their message to us would be equally irreverent. :)

Alien Punk. Now that would give SETI a hard time deciphering.

What message would you like to hear?

(Do you think this thread should be moved over to SETI@home Science : Radio or some other form of communication? thread as that seems pretty similar to what you are interested in.)
867) Message boards : SETI@home Science : So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish (Message 2021386)
Posted 2 Dec 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
After 20 years of donating CPU time and of course free to Berkeley energy I think it's time to pass the torch (but keep the matches) and let the younger generation keep on crunching numbers trying to find "The Signal".

Cheers mates and keep the bits flowing :)


Old post I know but you still crunching?

You've only ever posted one post.

Why not go to the cafe and chat?
868) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #6 (Message 2021370)
Posted 1 Dec 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I take a yearly flu shot regardless of whether the 'health authorities or drug companies' have got it right.

I am below pension age but am in a high risk environment. It is par for the course.

If we look at the process of trying to interpret the next strain or evolution of flu and all the steps taken back and forth between various parties we might accept how difficult the issue is.

I know the flu jab is mostly hit and miss (more hit we hope) but for me it has triggered my immune system, even with the wrong flu specific type, to be on the offensive.

In fact since I started taking it I have gone from a low level of malingering infections (body is sound but environment is infectious) to near no issues.

Obviously people need to talk to their doctors and know their own bodies.

If you think you are at risk it still may be worth considering the jab even if new strains come about. (Ask your GP \ doctor.)

There are also new forms of wider inoculations coming around that target not specific strains but more generic aspects \ markers of the virus type itself.

One of my favourite sites (not one that you would normally associate with this sort of issue) has a great simple walk through of the flu vaccine hit and miss process: hackAday
869) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2021336)
Posted 1 Dec 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
A continuation of this thread...

The is the fourth and current Donald Trump (45th President of the United States of America) thread. Everything about Donald Trump is on-topic: ie himself, his Presidency, his party, his cabinet, his family, his business interests, and the state of the U.S. Federal Government during his term.

As with any other thread, please note that any off topic material may be removed at moderator discretion


Hi all.

Now that we have a more sane and clear title for discussing issues or life relating to "Donald Trump" and I suspect his impact on the US and world at large I hope to be able to read this thread without all the bickering, one-up-manship and podium style arguing.

I for one would love to learn more from other peoples beliefs and thoughts than read tit for tat, personal gripe type stuff.

Lets begin afresh and lets not bait each other.

I have my own way and thoughts on moding but to will be looking for things that break a certain level of decorum.

Also please reduce the level of referring to each other by unkind nicknames or even by name if possible. Step over the arguments you don't like and if someone is trolling or making the thread hard to enjoy learning from or joining in just isolate the person by ignoring their posts all together.

The argument that "this is 'politics' and if you don't like it you don't have to be here..." doesn't wash. This is a SETI forum that is seen by the public and all threads (even in 'politics') should be accessible to all. (Should be non-aggressive and open.)

When I was asked to be a mod, just after our well respected and much loved mod Gordon MacKenzie Lowe died, I said yes because after 20 years of being just a cruncher and member of this forum I thought I owed something back. The truth is we all owe something more than just crunching. I think we all owe at least making this forum, even 'politics', a place new crunchers will find maybe challenging or informative but always enjoyable.


As I said. I too would also like to learn more about Trump. Simply because of the US's impact in the world at large. (People's opinion's are a great way to learn - especially from those who experience issues firsthand or by direct impact.)

Sorry for long post.

Just my personal thoughts.

(If you want to reply directly to me you can always PM me. If you want to use the 'Red X' at any time please don't if you actually caused an arguement or issue yourself.)

cRunchy
870) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (117) (Message 2013054)
Posted 23 Sep 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
While I'm personally finding this whole Linux thread interesting, perhaps a mod could move the whole thing to another thread as it clearly has nothing to do with the SETI servers being in Panic Mode?

Yeah, my bad. Sorry. I thought it would just be one or two posts and have the problem resolved, but it turned into more than that.

I posted here because this is probably the most-viewed thread where hopefully someone who knows the answer would see it.


No blame to anyone. It's mostly a community thing the way threads develop.

I have PM'ed arkayn (the thread owner.)

Hopefully arkayn will take a look.

Otherwise a name change might be the best solution.
871) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (117) (Message 2012767)
Posted 21 Sep 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
While I'm personally finding this whole Linux thread interesting, perhaps a mod could move the whole thing to another thread as it clearly has nothing to do with the SETI servers being in Panic Mode?


There are a number of threads like this one in "Number crunching" that should probably be in "Questions & Answers" under their respective OS.

As "Number crunching" has become something of a mixed-bag it is difficult to see where this thread should be.

Perhaps a simple name change to reflect it's Linux-ness :)

What do others think?

Keep it short please.

(I'll remove this and follow up posts when some overall agreement or 3 days have past.)

Of course the Mods as a whole may have a better quicker solution.
872) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 103 (Message 2012399)
Posted 18 Sep 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
store
873) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 103 (Message 2012350)
Posted 17 Sep 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Pomme - d'ambre
874) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dementia Research - Supporting Blurf's Fundraising Efforts (Message 2012342)
Posted 17 Sep 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Blurf, a long time member of our community, a former moderator for this project and a friend of ours for many years, is raising money for Dementia Research.
....


Keep it up Blurf.

For your mum and all our folks suffering dementia.

x
875) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 102 (Message 2011320)
Posted 9 Sep 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Breton
876) Message boards : Number crunching : version? gpu id? effect? (Message 2011313)
Posted 9 Sep 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
As far as I am aware average in this case will mean units over time.

It may take time for the average to settle down into a realistic figure?


I am not a linux officionado so just general thoughts. (I run Linuxmint in a virtual box but not for BOINC.)

Forgive me if you have already gone through this process:

Do you see your card in console \ terminal using:

lshw -c video

OR

inxi -G


Have you looked at:

AMD site linux driver install notes.

Is this post still an issue with the RX470 Linuxmint install process.

.
877) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 102 (Message 2011298)
Posted 8 Sep 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Celts
878) Message boards : Number crunching : Anything relating to AstroPulse (3) tasks (Message 2010983)
Posted 6 Sep 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.. (SNIP)..
Also getting 404 error on image (half_camel.jpg) load: Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 (File not found)


Looks like the server is case sensitive. See:

half_camel.JPG




Hopefully not some AstroPulse off-spring ;)
879) Message boards : Number crunching : Linux Distro, what's the best flavor for long time MS Windows user. (Message 2009198)
Posted 25 Aug 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
If I could figure out how, I'd change the thread title to Linux Distro, what's the best flavor for long time MS Windows users.


Title changed. Hope that is OK. :)

If any OP wants the title changed for their thread contact a mod or press the Red X and make the request.
880) Questions and Answers : Getting started : New team (Message 2004619)
Posted 28 Jul 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
This is an old answer so I quote:

Click COMMUNITY on the black bar at the top .... of this page and select the Teams link.

Gruß,
Gundolf


Just to add: When on the teams page you will find "Create Team" at the bottom left of the page.

Happy Team Building :)
881) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 101 (Message 2003876)
Posted 22 Jul 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Ma'at
882) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 101 (Message 2000171)
Posted 28 Jun 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
cryogenics
883) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPHW (The Last Person To Post Here Wins) #CCLXXXVI (Message 2000165)
Posted 28 Jun 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
PAX HOMO... I wonder how many understand this?

Without looking it up.


Peace Man!


(Sort of child \ teen level Latinium. :) )

Shame Romulus and Remus didn't dig the vibe at the time :(
884) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 101 (Message 1998492)
Posted 17 Jun 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
insoluble
885) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Rapid Shrinking of Jupiter's Great Red Spot (Message 1997305)
Posted 8 Jun 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Certain online headlines call the shrinking of the spot a disaster as if we had anything to do with it. Why would it be considered a disaster?


Given the size of Jupiter I doubt anything within or around our solar system could cause the red eye to collapse or change without us feeling some impact on earth.

The red eye is not so much of an interest to me. I was always fascinated by the counter motions of the bands of weather around it.

At some point that counter activity would effect each other.

The red eye and motions remind me of chaos theory. In chaos theory a seemingly stable movement \ system can come to halt or shift very quickly.

However from various sources it looks as if the red eye isn't reducing in it's volume. It may be shrinking in circumference but is actually bubbling out like a wart.

Jupiter may now have a great red wart... eek.

Another link:

https://astronomynow.com
886) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 1997295)
Posted 8 Jun 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...Trump attacks Nasa and claims the moon is 'a part' of Mars.

I don't know if Trump is one of those people who miss out connections in their thoughts and sentences and just blurt out 'stuff.'

Of course the moon is part of our exploration of our solar system. Of course we did that (marginally) half a century ago.

(I think we should do it again as it might allow for and aid in a trip to Mars.)

He is not wrong in that exploring outwards the Moon is part of the path towards Mars exploration.

Or in New or Trump ++Speak the moon is actually part of mars as a doodle in his head ;)

As a British person I have little interest in Trump except caring about America's influence and actions. (.. and of course as a world neighbour.)

I am suprised Trump's entourage haven't confiscated his tech and removed his ability to make tweets or twadles.

The more I read about Trump (I am not a natural Politics board reader) the more I think I like him... :) ... He doesn't seem to have barriers or a mask between his thoughts and his words ;)

You have to admire someone who feels so secure inside themselves they can say anything.

Caligular comes to mind.

Little Boots Trump!
887) Message boards : Politics : Socialism (Message 1997179)
Posted 7 Jun 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...We have a local NBC anchor here that claims to be open to all sides of a discussion but in truth betrays himself with vocal tones and innuendo when presenting something he doesn't agree with, which is usually a Conservative view.


Broadly published or disseminated news by nature has always tended to be conservative (little 'c' to big 'C') simply because those who pay for the papers (even without revenue from advertising of products) have either power or funds.

Let's not forget that 'conservative' can and does include the powerful or financed left wing as much as it does the right wing.

There are subtle tones in news but there is also what is called 'the hammer effect' where some news becomes important or accepted as true just by sheer volume.

No doubt news reporters and their media agencies are trained in the various arts of psychology and sociological presentation.

There was something in one of Shakespeare's plays where a character remarks upon another character saying: 'he is a good man - he is a very good man - such a good man' (or something like that.) Basically in the end we know he is overstating and telling us he is thought of as "not such a good man"...

No different to elections where backdrops to TV news are set with a colour or scene that suggests a particular political party. (Blue is often right wing I suspect.)

If I remember right here in the UK there was a TV election news presenter that was removed because he wore a tie that could be associated with a particular party?

Some of it is subtle, some blatant, some stupid and I guess some just misplaced.

Even adverts in old Victorian newspapers (UK) for things like soap often had political and cultural ideology embedded. (At that time mostly imperialistic.)
888) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 1997121)
Posted 7 Jun 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
#1 - Foreign thought and opinions have no impact inside the USA.


Then why have most of my friends and family that live in the US, who I rarely discus politics with, asked me or my youngest what do the English think of Trump.


I think the socio and ecconomic relationship between foreign countries (like the UK) and the USA have a great impact. Historic and family ties certainly have a strong influence on the community.

The thoughts and behaiviours of those in the Middle East, Russia and China for example (even if misconstrued) have had a major influence on America's political, ecconomic and even emmotional mindset. (Mostly reactionary I should guess.)

Though I agree in the sense that "it only matters if those with power think it matters" or unless of course "world opinion or action have greater impact than can be ignored."

Trump probably has too much on his plate at home to be overly concerned by us pesky foreigners and our un-American ways and thoughts ;)
889) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 101 (Message 1997119)
Posted 7 Jun 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
death
890) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Wild claim on Science Channel's Nasa's Unexplained Files (Message 1996175)
Posted 1 Jun 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
OK not a science channel piece but of the same sort of colloquial explanation of science.

when I was a kid around 7 I spent time in my school library.

I selected a book about science and the future.

Great pictures.

I distinctly remember it talking about our genetic development as humans.

It said by 2020 humans would become taller, we would be living on Mars and we would start loosing our hair.

(Interestingly the pictures of what we might look like were similar to how we see some aliens looking now. Tall, slim, oval heads and no hair..)

I guess we only have less than a year guys n gals and then baldness will be our way. ;/

It was one of those mythical science ideas that permeate.

That book stuck with me eidetically.

Media like school books and Science Channel have a lot to answer for in feeding misunderstanding sometimes..
891) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The continuing of life's adventures of the kittyman. (Message 1996166)
Posted 31 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Cool links Kitty.

I am a great fan of "The Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain."

They have pleasant humour and I love it when they do a melange / medley.

Never heard of 'Oscar Isaac' before. That song is rather dusky and emotional.

Keep up the links.

WhatEverHeBringsWeSing :)
892) Message boards : News : 20 years and counting! (Message 1995364)
Posted 26 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
难以相信这个项目已经经历了20年的漫长岁月,对于共同目标的向往让我们汇聚在这里,未来一切皆有可能,坚持下去相信最终会获得胜利,一起加油!



If you don't mind I have translated this via google to English:

It is hard to believe that this project has been going through a long period of 20 years. The yearning for the common goal allows us to gather here. Everything is possible in the future. We will continue to believe that we will win and cheer together!


Together we may even reach another 20 years.

Google: 我們一起甚至可能再達到20年
893) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Anybody bummed about The Game of Thrones ending, and what did you think about it? (Message 1995280)
Posted 25 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Never seen one episode..and my life is complete with out it..


Ah but how do you know?

    Seeing is believing. Only a true believer can see the anulus of the gods and pass through it :))


It might have made your life even more complete :)~

894) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Anybody bummed about The Game of Thrones ending, and what did you think about it? (Message 1995277)
Posted 25 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
It was one of those 'let's wrap it up quick' type series endings.

Most the characters went off on to their final destinations with a sense of disapointment and resignation (or dead.) Sort of depressing.

I would have liked to see more of what Arya Stark learnt from the guild of the Faceless Men.

It wasn't the positive ending expected (either John Stark or \ and Daenerys) by many people.

A fairly limp ending maybe?
895) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give us a Caption - # 71 (Message 1994418)
Posted 20 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
That will teach them to park in my spot.


Post Sponsored By:
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'Clamps Are A Thing Of The Past'
896) Message boards : Politics : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here 2 (Message 1994416)
Posted 20 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Not the only act of vandals that can't be explained.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1998-aug-18-me-14160-story.html

Explain please.

Sorry Gary. The article is blocked here in Europe. I didn't realise at first. Thats why I questioned.

Wanton destruction, teenagers, this one on and of hallowed ground.

Probably quite typical of vandalism although the extent and cost in this case is overwhelming :(

Boredom and parents that either trust too much or are absent (multiple jobs?), total lack of respect for others. It wasn't for lack of morals in the parents as they took the kids in to the cops immediately.

Turning your kids in isn't always a sign of morality.

Collectively they came up with less than $500 towards the million dollar damage, before they reached the end of their sentences.

Not satisfactory but unless the families involved were millionaires I doubt they could afford to offer a million dollars!

As a society we must have and teach respect for each other and their property. With the nastiness and name calling of political discourse today I'm not surprised that some impressionable minds may be led astray and feel that disrespect, damage and destruction are socially acceptable.

It is true that as a society we need to engender respect (and more so care) for others (and oneself.)

Sometimes the question is did our parents engender enough of the social skills and mindset in us so that this generation of young people would learn well from us.

The answer to these issues is difficult.

There is evidence of graffiti in the pyramids and other ancient monuments going back to 5000 years ago.

If you read any of the newspapers from say the 1800s you will see many a story of vandalism.

Of course the expression "Vandalism" is drawn from those evil Vandals who sacked ancient Rome. :)

Plato (2.4 thousand years ago) in one of his drones moaned on about young people and their bad and unsocial behaviour.

As our societies become more wealthy and there are more things to vandalise it is inevitable that something of great expense will become broken.

Something you said about 'boredom' strikes a chord for me. Not not because kids are bored (they have so much junk to entertain them) but because we (the UK is a case) no longer invest in youth services or out of school activities and proactive youth workers.

My city for example had 200 youth projects and full time workers (not that many for 1.2 million population) 20 years ago but with cut backs now only has 20 or so. (All the networks have fallen.)

I am not making excuses - Just an arguement that it is not the cost of what is vandalised we should be looking at nor the age of the vandals but the deeper reason for vandalism and how we as a society and individuals (you and me) can make a positive difference.
897) Message boards : Politics : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here 2 (Message 1994414)
Posted 20 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Works for me...


All I get is a message about them not able to share with the European Union.

I guess The LA Kim Jong-un Times feels us old worlders ain't good enough to read their blurb.

(I tried various US and Canadian web-proxies as well as my normal TOR but non could get the story. <I'm not going to reconfig TOR to circumvent just for one story>)

I might understand this if it was a media (copyright) item but everyday human news???

Anyways Kevvy.

Thanks for the quote.

I kind of expect most young people to vandalise something at least once in their (oops our) lives. Hopefully just foolish minor stuff.

Gross vandalism is in many ways something arbitary where there are no other people around or we have left something of value unprotected or unwatched.

There is plenty of vandalism done by older people to.

There are also cases of state sanctioned vandalism for various profit or political purposes.

Not sure why we focus only on the young. (Unless we Setizens are becoming old fogies.)

.
898) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! Part VII (Message 1994408)
Posted 20 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Not ready to eat insects yet. Not saying that I have accidentally swallowed a flying one.



Oh dear. Did you swallow a spider to catch the fly?

They reckon us non insect munchers eat at least a kilo of insects in our lifetimes.

Just don't sleep with your mouth open :)

However many of us including vegetarians scoff down many a crushed beetle when we eat food with strong bright red colouring (cochineal.)

Anyway Admiral I'm sure you have had a nibble or two of a juicy weevil in your hardtack once in a while.

Plenty of protein.

People would be horrified to know the things they actually consume.
899) Message boards : Politics : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here 2 (Message 1994385)
Posted 20 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Not the only act of vandals that can't be explained.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1998-aug-18-me-14160-story.html


Explain please.

Some issues with your link..
900) Message boards : Politics : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here 2 (Message 1994346)
Posted 19 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Corporal punishment comes to mind.


Sadly it will only build up more angst in the recipients and probably teach them that violence is the way to solve other problems like when they are older and rearing children.

Curfew by parents, no internet access except for homework, no designer clothing and limited pocket money is the only way to impress on the young people the seriousness of vandalism.

(For me it is not some love of models but vandalism per-ce that is an issue.)

However I also think some irony would help - like making them do 4 hours each week of community service or extra-corricula activities - Minature-modelling comes to mind. :-)

... and because parents should be held responsible for at least knowing where there kids are (most of the time) and their childrens 'mindset' they too should be held to some account.

Corporal punishment is assault and battery whether it is a child, an adult or culturally accepted, legal or otherwise.

I am amazed that given the costs of the models that they didn't hire a security guard or have a few volunteers stop over to watch and ward off wanna be vandals.

It seems not everyone loves model railways :(

I do. I have some lovely little models in N, HO\OO and HOe scales.
901) Message boards : SETI Perspectives : Coming of Age for Optical SETI (Message 1994018)
Posted 17 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Interesting article, I was wondering if an approach where you scanned and analysed the optical data to establish a baseline of what is a 'normal' night sky.

Once you have that, it is easier to spot the 'unusual' occurrences and create a program to eliminate fluctuations which are caused by satellites, planes, normal flicker from atmosphere etc.

Instead of analysing all the data all the time, just look for aberrations!


Comparing and storing difference (aberrations) is very much the idea.

In some way similar to the way moving gifs and other forms of video compression work as well as motion detection.

(Compression by difference does have a downside. If you don't store or have the previous frames or photos you can't reconstruct a full picture. So storage of images would probably be full frame by frame.)

This is where all those different funcky filters and extrapolations come into play. (IE: Face detection type stuff.)

It would be interesting to see what methods are used to solve the issues you suggest Kimuta1.


I am also interested in the idea of prismatic (fresnel) type lenses as the output can be used spectographically as well. (I'm also wondering if they could be used to produce marginal 3d imagery?)

.
902) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Second Chance Code For Coma Patients (Message 1993854)
Posted 15 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
....I have seen a lot of
medical people in the last 2 weeks. I had no more electrical attacks,
it looks like it was some sort of panic attack according to my doctor.

I also get visits twice a week at home from help people....


I am really glad you are getting some help and not struggling along on your own.

Keep pushing for the help that will make the greatest amount of benefit to yourself.

It takes time and sometimes it takes finding the right words to express what you really need before you can find the right help.

Just to let you all know I have been contacted by a Dutch writer of books about NDE, and I have also been
contacted today by other people who are also involved in NDE about my account.

At last someone took some interest...I see a chance here.Hopefully anyway.


That could be a brilliant oppourtunity to share your experience and thoughts about NDE. (Please be sure they are not using you just for their own ends.)

Just to let you know... I and others drop in from time to time and do read your thread \ journal :)

It's good to be heard and have confidence in one's own voice.

Keep us updated Andy.
903) Message boards : Politics : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here 2 (Message 1993810)
Posted 15 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
In Urdu \ Hindi the word for zero is 'Zifar'... Possibly a connection?
Yes. That what now is Pakistan has adopted a lot from Arabia long after the zero was "invented". Both alphabets and words. Sifar, زیرو. Etymologically it derives it roots from the Arabic word 'sifr'.
Which funny enough is what we scandinavians call single numbers Siffra :)


Urdu is 70% Sanskrit and some Persian. It is a dialect of the sub continent of India even if that has now split (Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Bengal, Kashmir (split).) It is also \ probably the third most spoken language in the world.



Now why so many Americans think that they shouldn't be taught in school is quite obvious. They connect Arabic to Islam and therefore being bad like jihadists. Same reasoning as Nazi Germany connected Jews to all that was bad in the 1900's.


It is clear from history that Americans started to focus on the middle east and therefor anything they consider muslim \ arabic etc (rightfully or wrongfully) after the fall of 'communism' in Russia and the fall of the berlin wall.

I suspect politicians and folk needed something new to focus national pride versus an opposite upon.

1950s+ hate for Russia and the Ruskies has now become hate for the middle east and Muslims. ('Rag Heads...)

It is not just America but those countries that require somebody to hate to define themselves or take the focus away from their own failings internally.

Teaching children (without bias) about different religions is no different to teaching them about sub divisions within our own beliefs.

Most children if they have a safe home and confidence in themselves will not suddenly become Muslim.

... but they may become less fearfull and more questioning... That I suspect is why certain forces in our societies (like America) dislike open education.
904) Message boards : Politics : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here 2 (Message 1993787)
Posted 15 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... The Arabic numerals originated in India about 400 BC.
It was later introduced in Europe from Arabia to replace the Roman numerals in the Middle Ages.
Also the numeral zero was introduced what now seem to be the knowledge of 56% of Americans.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2147450-history-of-zero-pushed-back-500-years-by-ancient-indian-text/


In Urdu \ Hindi the word for zero is 'Zifar'... Possibly a connection?

The concept of Zero has been around for thousands of years and early Ayuvedic texts refer to the concept often. (Possibly as far back as 5 thousand years.)

Most early Ayuvedic texts are introspective in their attempt to understand the universal. (Even has some interesting concepts relating to what we now see as sub-atomic.)

Einstien took thought from Ayevedic concepts.

The Romans did have a concept of Zero but it was expressed in a word rather than a numeral. The term "nulla" (our Null or nothingness) was for them a meaning of Zero or Null.

Me. I like the concept of Null. I like the idea of a trinary state. EG: Empty - maybe no holder even (Null), No-thing (Zero) or some-thing (Not Zero or Null)


But perhaps math like algebra (الجبر) shouldn't be taught in America as well:)
https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AC%D8%A8%D8%B1


Should or shouldn't?

The meaning of the word Algerbra comes from the "Arabic "al-jabr", literally meaning "reunion of broken parts..."

That meaning is perhaps apt for many of our societies!
905) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Photographs by Setizens 2 - Originals only - any subject (Message 1993772)
Posted 14 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Love seeing other places by our Setizen siblings.

Lovely clarity and light in your photos Suzie-Q.

(I'm guessing a phone \ wide angle was used.)

Love architectural and cultural objects from places I might never get to see.

Thanks Suzie-Q
906) Message boards : Politics : The A O-C (aka Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez) thread (Message 1993753)
Posted 14 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I don't believe that most of the people are that stupid.
Do you?


when did you stop beating your wife?

A bizaar analogy!?

(Hopefully not aimed at becoming off topic or goading.)
907) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person To Post Here Wins #283 (Message 1993636)
Posted 13 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
........It’s also my 49th birthday.

Hey Up Young Man :)

Big Happy Birthday.

Have the best of years Admiral.
908) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 101 (Message 1993505)
Posted 12 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Paisley-Poopers
909) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 101 (Message 1993379)
Posted 10 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Faraday
910) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 101 (Message 1993228)
Posted 9 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
transition(al)
911) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 101 (Message 1993220)
Posted 9 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Edward
912) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Yahoo Becomes Oath And Now Verison. (Message 1992611)
Posted 4 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
All I know is I have refused to agree to their new terms of service (for at least a year) and it still allows me to refuse to agree. I'm not using POP, I'm using IMAP or web and don't seem to have issues.


I didn't notice the change to Oath. I guess I only hit a hitch at Verison in the last few days. (I have updated the title and my post a little to reflect this.)

It looks like some of the old Yahoo web pages are being dismantled. (Missing images and CSS + js.)

I won't be agreeing to the new terms of service either.

IMAP is pretty solid.

Not sure that will save us from their sub-clauses (or even main terms) given we have chosen to continue to use their services beyond a reasonable opt out or personal data download date.

Google has been pretty good at this. It has at least warned us and given us the chance to download our online data when they switched off certain services.
913) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Yahoo Becomes Oath And Now Verison. (Message 1992604)
Posted 4 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Just in case it is useful for other members:

If you used Yahoo in the past for personal mails there has been a slow change over to Oath and now Verison?

(I experienced it over the last few days. Drop outs in email.)

The chatter is that by continuing to use your Yahoo account you give Oath > Verison the right to capture your email content and communications to profile you..

Anyway if you have been having a problem with their pop servers (email) it is likely this change of ownership is to blame.

I had a difficult time loging in to yahoo's http sites although once I did it worked OK.

I couldn't get into anything yahoo group based.

I have changed my seti login email address to a different provider.

I am migrating all my accounts away from (Yahoo) Oath > Verison for stability and because I don't want to share yet more private data...

Anyone have better info or updates?
914) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 20th Anniversary T-shirts - More in stock (Message 1992570)
Posted 4 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Got mine as part of the Uli-In-The-UK 2019 tour.

Doubly blessed :)
915) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Puns & Limericks (Message 1992526)
Posted 4 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
One of the problems with Limericks is that we associate them with Irish people. It is interesting since Limericks are historically an English invention.

There is a kind assumption (probably due to English imperialism and jingoism) that the 'Irish' speak with a lyrical metre.

A true Limerick should be baudy and naughty it has been said. Obviously on this forum we have to use language and reference that is acceptable socially to a broad spectrum of people and has to be some what youth friendly.

Can I ask that we try not to give reference to other cultures unless it is a truth that can be shared in an acceptable way.

No more Irish limericks or puns that wouldn't be acceptable to Irish people at large please.

Although of course you can knock my city (Brum \ Birmingham) all you like. :) (Within forum rules.) (Brummies can take it :)))

Sorry for not posting a Limerick but I thought I would make a strong suggestion that we don't knock others.

If anyone is interested I can always start a thread about "Forms of cultural expression" - Where we could look at the cultural roots of any type of cultural expression spoken written or otherwise. Might be interesting?


I will move or hide this post and responses if people feel a thread discovering our ideas about expression is a good thing. (In a gentle seti-cafe style of course.)

I will also remove it if the OP requests.
916) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My last day on earth............................ (Message 1992500)
Posted 3 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
If I were to be dying and my last few days were nigh.
What would you have to say to me after all these years?
Or what would you say about me after I have left?
It might help if you said it now.

Meow?

A very long time ago I started a thread called "My Epitaph."

It was just a light thread that people could put in their own epitaphs or if we knew someone well and they didn't mind we could have fun writing epitaphs for them.

Kitty you are part of this forum and have been a great source of thought and humanity.

I would think fondly of you and miss your continuing life adventures.

I would miss you.

If we could take all the good thoughts we had about you and make an epitaph your tomb stone would need to be a mile high.

.... but then there are all the crazy stuff you do... Now that might need a second tomb stone :)~ <Smiles and sticks cheeky tongue out.> :)~

.
917) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Farewell and Rest In Peace - Gordon MacKenzie Lowe (Message 1992498)
Posted 3 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
We have lost many good friends and people who interested and involved us over the years.

Gordon touched many a heart.

As life goes on so should this thread. I've made it unsticky again.

Our memories of the good souls we have met and those that have touched our hearts here in SETI and BOINC will stay with us.

Gordon was and will always be a bright star.



x
918) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 101 (Message 1992294)
Posted 2 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
musket
919) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Our Best Front Ear (Message 1992097)
Posted 1 May 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
You can always tell when you are in southern England, they have fruit in bowls on the sideboard when nobody is ill.


I thought that a Northern thing too. It kind of has the cultural idea that "all is well" in the house if you can display fruit.

Plastic or plaster fruit is interesting.

Goes along with the front room unused except for guests and funerals :)

Quite 1950s (via Victorianisms.) Then end of the 70s people knocked the rooms into one only to by the 80-s90s knock them back into two again.

At least we know we have a room for ET to come visit in and eat a little fruit.
920) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Our Best Front Ear (Message 1991815)
Posted 28 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
For a good laugh I'd show them the politics forum at Seti....


No point in sending an army to invade us then :)

...What would you show them?


If they dropped into my house for tea then my favourite melodic punk tunes of course.

.. and if they were hell bent on annihilate the human race after hearing my music I might try to lull them with some homemade pancakes, loads of butter and fruit syrup.

If that didn't impress them (or if they were veogon) I could try doing some precisely mastered cart wheels but I would probably bash my noggin and dislocate my arms and legs.

The earth would be doomed.
921) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Our Best Front Ear (Message 1991809)
Posted 28 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
What would you share with ET?

Vogon poetry, they wouldn't be staying very long.

Poetry readings down your end sound like a blast.

Invite the aliens, Get them to bring some beer. Then read them some Vogon poetry and watch them run or melt away.

That's what Southerner's call a cheap date?. :)~ <Hehehe>

:) ... However the aliens in this thread need entertaining :) ...

What would you share with ET... or entertain them with if they just came down to visit you and only you?
922) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Our Best Front Ear (Message 1991793)
Posted 28 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
It's a thread for all Cafe style.

If you had the chance to share or beam out something to aliens that wasn't scientific or ordinary boring stuff what might it be.

Personally I think ET or Klatu might like this....

Prince Buster - One Step Beyond

I did wonder if they would like my old stinky socks but then I realised some of them have no toes.


What would you share with ET?

(It's a Cafe thread so don't be boring or technical. Be fun.)
923) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Second Chance Code For Coma Patients (Message 1991787)
Posted 28 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I ran away from the rest home,the pills made me sick.

I though brain things would be allowed here.Sorry about that.
Since my psychose I think that the universe is a brain.


Long brain posts make it near impossible for others to understand or respond to you.

I assume if you post to a forum you want others to respond?

You have been told you are welcome here so carry on in your thread.

Later if or when you feel comfortable reading other people's threads and responding in a like mind then have a go at that.

I'm suggesting that fewer well chosen words can say far more.

If you have stopped your meds because they made you feel too unwell then don't give up. Get your psychiatrist to give you something else to try.

Medication shouldn't make you feel unwell or doped up. It should at least make you feel comfortable enough to get on with the basics in life.

Anyway Andy.

You can find yourself a place in the SETI community.

Naturally it takes a little time and means some change is needed.


I do not mind if you delete the thread.I tried to edit some.


Nobody will do that unless you ask specifically....and even then I know there are several people who would say 'hold on'...

If you break the rules of the forum either the community or the mods wil speak out. Otherwise just try and join in.


Darn. Now you've got me typing long posts :)~
924) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Second Chance Code For Coma Patients (Message 1991783)
Posted 28 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I had to come back to thank you for answering.I apprecisate it.But I am done with seti, sorry.,.


Andy.

Will you tell us what you wish or need from this community and forum?

We can see that you are in a place in your life that is not what it should be.

You say so much but sometimes fewer words might express more.

As a forum or project we can not fix you but we are a community and human beings.

In this you are welcome to just be and accept companionship.

If you need any extra help I am sure we can gather together to find out links to mental health or social support in the Netherlands.

Leave if you wish but stay if you can.



(Andy. Are you on psychiatric medication. Have you stopped taking it or has it stopped working?)
925) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 101 (Message 1991749)
Posted 27 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
wood
926) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 101 (Message 1991735)
Posted 27 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Ghost - Town
927) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Farewell and Rest In Peace - Gordon MacKenzie Lowe (Message 1991534)
Posted 26 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I'm just not ready to see this fall off the first page of the Cafe...

I hope there is a heaven and that it is full of bunny rabbits for Gordon.

Gordon belonged to us and we belonged to him,

I am sure he will be both frolicking with the rabbits and more importantly for Gordon enjoying time with his Mum.

His mother (Iva) was very important to him. His house was filled with her paintings and artwork.



Anyway I have made this thread sticky again... but just for one week.

As threads move into the past so do we and those we miss.

The thread wont disappear and our feelings for Gordon wont die but they will move on.

If other Mods don't mind - the thread is made stick again for one week. (I will or any mod can remove the sticky next Friday..)

Speak your heart and let Gordon go where he must.
928) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 101 (Message 1991530)
Posted 26 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
cloak
929) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1991529)
Posted 26 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.....We here down under and across the ditch commemorated A.N.Z.A.C. Day instead.....


My father and especially my grandfather both remember the ANZACs.

Not forgotten in the UK either.

War is a form of hate or jealousy where we are convinced to do the unspeakable. :(

--
Hail toThor.
930) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person To Post Here Wins #283 (Message 1991387)
Posted 25 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...The high energy route I think.


From a general logical point of view it does seem a bit odd to launch after the horse has bolted and expend energy to catch up with Mars.

Surely the best option would be to pre-prepare and launch something on a more radial coarse or early and wait for Mars to catch up.

Though of course I understand Mars orbits the sun a bit under every 2 years (687 days) so not always feasible to wait.

Anybody know if we have put any satellites (2 or 3) triangulated with earth towards the other side of the Sun?

Winning whilst chatting :)
931) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 101 (Message 1991360)
Posted 25 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Palindrome :)
932) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person To Post Here Wins #283 (Message 1991359)
Posted 25 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
A Mars quake happened recently.

The first "Mars quake" has been detected, NASA announced..


Interesting story Zoom..

We believe Mars has a residual molten core so that could be the cause.

I doubt wind would cause any serious earthquake (if any)?

Solar wind activity at that magnitude would be detected here on earth as well.

I wonder if the pull of Mar's moons at some conjuncture had something to do with it.

Earthquakes whilst saying instability and caution also suggest energy and change that could be used. (Heat for example.)

As the first planet we will ever travel to is going to be Mars (assuming we can) finding out about major planetary events make me feel more hopeful rather than negative.
933) Message boards : Number crunching : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 1991354)
Posted 25 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
One person's thoughts on their move to solar in a place that can spend 6+ months of the year covered in snow.


What about a pair of cheap windscreen wipers (heated even?) that detect temperatures below 4 deg C light drop during daytime. (Say wiping once an hour in cold snowy weather at night and during the day wiping more frequently until an acceptable light level is acquired.

I am sure you can blag some old windscreen wiper motors or something similar for a test.

Of course to automate fully rather than you pressing a button to say it is snowing or frosty you might be able to construct a small vile of water for outdoors (shaded from the sun) and pass a current through it (3v should be enough and would suit a cheap $5 microprocessor?) to detect resistance. (When frozen it would give off a certain resistance signature suggesting frost or snow.)

Bit of an undertaking but if it gave an extra 100w for a 10w process it might be worth it.

For a single motor something like a parallelogram wiper comes to mind?

Just mad wannabe inventor thoughts :)
934) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 101 (Message 1991239)
Posted 24 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
pinacle
935) Message boards : Number crunching : Ryzen and Threadripper (Message 1991109)
Posted 22 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
As a PDF it might not work, so try using the "url" tag pair instead.


If you are trying to show or view a PDF in this forum or your browser it will NOT work.

The only option as Rob points to is to use the [ url ] tag.

This allows for someone to download and view the PDF - IF they have a PDF reader ;)

MY Image Wrapped In A PDF

[url=mckenzietrust.com/screenshotboincstat.pdf]MY Image Wrapped In A PDF[/url]


Having said that. If your browser does show PDFs in frame then once you click the link it may offer to open the file in the browser window itself.... BUT it will have to be downloaded first in the background and still won't show as part of the forum page.

Another option is to find a service that decompiles a PDF to an image file (jpg, png, bmp, gif, etc..)

Or of course don't use "Save To" PDF in the first place.

Personally I dislike saving a simple image file wrapped in a PDF :(
936) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Bugs, Insects, and Spiders (Message 1990751)
Posted 20 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Bees are quite resilient little creatures.

My loft bees woke up at the end of Feb and have been flitting around since in gradually increasing numbers of bumbles and drones. (Bumbles first.)

In the last couple of years the temperature of the area they have placed themselves in (close to the stone roof tiles) at the hottest point in summer must have reached 40++ deg C and be pretty toasty and humid.

I know it was hot for them as I could see the drones holding on the edge of the holes they use in the flashing below the guttering fanning air into the hive. I could hear the hum from inside my home with the windows closed.

Quite a few of the drones died from exhaustion as they fell to the ground.

I did help out by putting an electric fan outside pointing towards their hole.

This year I will be cutting another hole for them.

I am amazed however that they could survive a major blaze but then many of the drones and bumbles may of been away from the hive and able to come back one by one and do whatever they do.

Maybe the structure of the hive protected some of the lava.

Even if the Queen died insect chemical signals would probably convert several grubs to a new queen (layer)??

Insects.. Fascinating even if horrid.

(We are not so different really.)
937) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The continuing of life's adventures of the kittyman. (Message 1990750)
Posted 20 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Hadn't heard "In Spite of Ourselves" before.

Naughty but fun and very playfull. :)

Something nice to the ear about American acoustic folk style duets. (To my UK ear at least.)

Dylan and Baez do something similar but with more serious issues \ topics and a harsher tone. (I like Dylan and Baez.)

Anyway it is late for me here.

I have enjoyed your foray through Les Paul's songs.

I like being surprised.

Keep it up Kitty :)
938) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The continuing of life's adventures of the kittyman. (Message 1990741)
Posted 20 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
It would be lovely to hear about your connection to Les Paul.

For now, I am in much pain over my father's death and will be for some time.


Of course.

Just popped into your thread to say Hi.

Always look after yourself.
939) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The continuing of life's adventures of the kittyman. (Message 1990736)
Posted 20 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... Anyways, my stamina is running out and we must part now.
Les Paul rules.
Now as for ever.


He does rule.

... and you rock Kitty :)
940) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 1990707)
Posted 19 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
code in Python:

while True:
	print "sigh "




Plus of course:

print 'back to topic' :)~
941) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Puns & Limericks (Message 1990306)
Posted 16 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Man dresses up as a clown to entertain kids in the local hospital.

What a lovely jester I thought.
942) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1990109)
Posted 15 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
trumpet
943) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 1989880)
Posted 13 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Has it come to this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-immolation_protests_by_Tibetans_in_China
Maybe...
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/secret-service-apprehends-man-who-lit-jacket-on-fire-outside-white-house-fence/


I think in Tibet there was a real feeling of invasion and cultural and pervasive fear.

The case of the White House man was on an individuals level.

They are not really equal.

I doubt the US either has the cultural history, timeline or experience of invasion of Tibet.

Nor can the devastating actions of an individual, however sad, be always blamed on society's major problems.

When it really "comes to this" I suspect it will be something in between for most of us.
944) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1989875)
Posted 13 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
marmite
945) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The continuing of life's adventures of the kittyman. (Message 1989872)
Posted 13 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
A cat song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ9oo7mgMo4


Excellent choice for Kitty Moomin.

Here's the lyrics so we can all sing along.

Delilah, Delilah, oh my, oh my, oh my - you're irresistible - ooh ooh ooh
You make me smile when I'm just about to cry
You bring me hope, you make me laugh - and I like it
You get away with murder, so innocent
But when you throw a moody you're all claws and you bite
That's alright!
Delilah, Delilah, oh my, oh my, oh my - you're unpredictable - ooh ooh ooh ooh
You make me so very happy
When you cuddle up and go to sleep beside me
And then you make me slightly mad
When you pee all over my Chippendale suite
Ooh ooh Delilah
Ooh ooh Delilah
Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh
You take over my house and home
You even try to answer my telephone
Delilah, you're the apple of my eyes
Meow, meow, meow,
Delilah - I love you, Delilah oh
Ooh you make me so very happy - you give me kisses
And I go out of my mind - ooh ooh
Meow, meow, meow, meow,
You're irresistible - I love you Delilah
Delilah - I love you, ha ha
You make me very happy - oooh oh yeah
I love your kisses

...


When you pee all over my Chippendale suite

When I was a kid one of the family Tom cats peed in our box of Lego bricks.

The stench. We never played with them again.

Cats do have a way of subverting or changing our lives.

Brilliant song Moomin.
946) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The continuing of life's adventures of the kittyman. (Message 1989841)
Posted 12 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Not really looking to sell it right now.
But, thank you for the advice if I do put it up for sale.


After the loss of your Dar and the time it will take to settle a little back into a more better place I think you are right.

Don't put anything up for sale or give away anything until you feel more comfortable in life.

x
947) Message boards : Politics : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here. (Message 1989836)
Posted 12 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
What have Sweden, Equador, the UK and the US in common today?
Well Julian Assange it seems.
Personally I think he's a sociopath and a coward.
In Sweden he allegedy raped two women in 2010 but when charged he escaped to Britain.
In the US he's wanted because he published secret military US information.
In Equador he is not wanted because he didn't followed the Equador's embassy rules in London.
Still Julian think he has a "journalist right" and hence above the law!


WikiLeaks is an excellent idea (when it is not aimed at an individual that might come to harm.)

Shame all of this turmoil has come around it.

Personally I don't care if government or corporate harmful secrets are exposed.

The Equadorian embassy issue may be related to the millions of dollars they spent for his upkeep... and the changing political climate.

As to the rape charges in Sweden. The accusations stand even if the court charges don't... That is a sad story to be discovered yet :(

There has been a consideration of him for a Nobel prize... Mmmm...

Though I like the idea of WikiLeaks I think the "Assange" issue is that he created the "context" for the news. This might be alright but he is also "creating" the news.. Essentially about himself.

The old adage: Reporters should 'report' the news - not 'create' the news.

Assange has become a celebrity in some circles..
948) Message boards : Politics : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here. (Message 1989316)
Posted 8 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Well, both Norway and Britain (well, Scotland) found gas in adjacent bits of the North Sea in the 1970s.

We've squandered most of ours, not least in the "dash for gas" used to replace coal-fired electricity generating stations during Margaret Thatcher's war on the mining unions in the 1980s. And I don't know where the money went.


I remember when Thatcher ramped up oil production from the north sea to force down prices from the middle east.

Britain used up most of it's accessible coal funding the industrial revolution that the rest of the world gained from and WW2. I doubt there is much left that is easy to get to.

There has been in our country a history of profiteering (probably in most countries actually) that has led to the over exploitation or resources.

I am with France. They produce enough nuclear powered electricity to sell the overflow at times to their neighbours.

They are also leading the way in rebreaders that may one day lead to low radiation, high potential power sources.
949) Message boards : Politics : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here. (Message 1989314)
Posted 8 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I blame the Scandinavians :)
Hmm... You mean Norway that found oil and gas in the North Sea and started to deliver that to Britain in the early 70's.
Well Sweden warned you already in 1968, yes before Britain joined the EU, with this protest song.
Edward Heath comes to mind. Hihi:)
Take it away Melvyn "Bobo" Slacke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5bGaR2I4bI


Hehe. moomin . I knew when I said Scandinavians you might correct me :)~

Haven't got a clue what 'Melvyn "Bobo" Slacke' is saying but I get deep Germanic come Irish feel from his style!!! Don't ask me why.
950) Message boards : Politics : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here. (Message 1989291)
Posted 8 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Have a British Gas account?

Your bills are about to increase

Well, someone has to keep him supplied with cognac & King Edward's.


I agree it is immoral for someone to earn such an absurd amount but not actually work many more hours than the average paid educated worker..

(Come the revolution....)

A couple of million quid is nothing though compared to the billions spent every year on gas.

A good part of our gas now comes from places like Norway so we are beholden to changes in their price changes.

We are also beholden to how local companies do their business and how much profit they think they can get away with.

I blame the Scandinavians :)
951) Message boards : Politics : BREXIT (Message 1989287)
Posted 8 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Oh.
There is an EU instruction that the color should be burgundy red, the actual hue is carefully specified. The size has also been decided by the EU...


I remember when British passports were black.

If after BREXIT they become blue I think that might be because that is the colour of the Conservative party who have the power to thrust upon us their ideological machinations.

Personally black is OK or a nice green would be great like Eire or florescent pink \ orange to signal danger - Brits Abroad.. :)
952) Questions and Answers : Getting started : change computername? (Message 1989266)
Posted 8 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Bernie is right,

The computer name is what was automatically given when setting up the PC (which your's looks like it was) or what you chose.

It is simply the domain name on the network so it is easier to find by other computers rather than use an IP address that could change.

In Win7 'right click' on "Computer" either on desktop or from the start menu and select "Settings."

You will get a system dialogue with a button called "Change."

(It is similar in WinXP and somewhat similar in Linux depending on your distro.)

You can change your computer name there.

A reboot or re-login may \ will be required.

(The only issue to this is if you have some software setup to speak to each computer such as VNC. This however simply requires you to change the computer name in that software.)

It is a minor change and will have near no effect on your normal PC usage.

As to whether SETI picks up the change is another matter.

...would like to make them easier to identify than for instance PC-8X7M04J...


I name my PC's based on their type: DC7100, Phenom etc... or their location or task Office1, Media1 etc..

It is easier to have a memorable name I agree.

Good to see you around on the forums Dutchy.
953) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPHW #282 (Message 1988762)
Posted 4 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Day 4 of this cold. I don't like missing so much work. Should I go in and risk passing this cold or should I stay away and burn another sick day?


Carlos,

Here in the UK anyone who works with people at risk of suffering FLU (old, ill, young, enclosed, broad) has the right to free yearly FLU jabs.

Otherwise time for: Mild tea with ginger, honey and cardamoms.

As long as you feel able to work AND your company doesn't mind the rest of the workforce becoming ill I say go to work.

The idea of a certain amount of sick days is foolish from a company's point of view if the illness is communicable.

Call their bluff.

Let them send you home and don't let them treat it as a sick day.

The problem with wearing masks is that they do help stop the spread of some diseases but they also can be a harbour for some virilant types that you rebreath.

Also unless you are wearing a gas mask with activated charcoal it is unlikely a simple white fibre mask will stop viruses. More likely they just filter and allow the strongest viruses to pass out and in??

If you are suffering flu then I suggest it is not so much an illness but a natural part of anybody's life. It happens. (Not that that concept really helps with certain company's) :(

Ask your doctor for the flu jab.

The US must have a free FLU vaccination scheme?
954) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1988719)
Posted 4 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Deliciousness

.
955) Message boards : Politics : BREXIT (Message 1988692)
Posted 4 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Went to my local Sainsburies this morning. At the checkout I had the American woman that serves...

Anyway various people were chatting to her (she is a chatty being) and in the process I asked her what she thought about 'Brexit' (as an American.)

She paused with a seriousness and told me she couldn't talk about that.

I asked her why and she said the police had advised (on the radio) people not to talk about it in case it incited violence.

I looked at her and said the police have no legal right to tell you what to say or make you feel unable to express your thoughts..

She said 'I know but'..

(It is also likely that the company she works for has also impressed this moratorium on their workers.)

I'm not going to push a front line worker but I would have appreciated her insight as an American living and working in the UK.

Beyond the 'big word' politics there will be some local social ramifications not yet seen to Brexit.
956) Message boards : Politics : Computers & Technology 3 (Message 1988660)
Posted 4 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... And then there is the "Linux" way whereby there are effectively no 3rd parties...

I always find it a little strange when talking about Linux and no 3rd parties given Linux is created by many including 3rd, 4th, 5th and so on parties.

Honest, open, happy families are far more positively productive than rushed (proprietary) secrecy...

Proprietary does not have to mean secretive or less productive.

After all the firmware in the screen you are looking at or the bios on your PC (even if loaded with Linux) may well be proprietary.

We tend to forget that there is a load of proprietary around us that we never consider but if it did not exist our non--proprietary would not exist.

Not defending proprietary... Just expanding the argument or idea.

Not sure though how a discussion about computers fits into politics? Economics or Technology surely... but Politics?
957) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1988648)
Posted 3 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Head
958) Message boards : Politics : Socialism (Message 1988624)
Posted 3 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
OK. No answers to the quiz.
So here some normal things in the Socialist Nordic countries.
Being silent is normal
Not speaking to random strangers is normal
Not smiling is normal, unless you are drunk, or crazy, but you moved there, so…l


list anon.....


An interesting list moomin .

The UK had many of those aspects to some degree between the 1940s to about 1980.

From 1979 when Thatcher came to power there has been a shift away from the social towards the individual so we have lost some ways of being that we should have cherished.

I often hear people talk with regret at the loss of social values.. Sadly that is just before they get into their individual car, go home to the house they bought from the community housing stock, use their individual washing machine and lock their doors to the social world around them.

We are funny creatures.
959) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1988382)
Posted 2 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
amphitheater
960) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give us a Caption - # 71 (Message 1988363)
Posted 1 Apr 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
So what if I shave my chest!
961) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPHW #282 (Message 1988054)
Posted 30 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Good afternoon win!!


Evening from the UK KB7RZF.

Winning with a wave :)
962) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The continuing of life's adventures of the kittyman. (Message 1988035)
Posted 30 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Our Kitty',

My thoughts are with you Mark.

Sounds like you had a great relationship with your Dad.

He is part of you now and forever.

Look after yourself throughout your time of mourning.

Know you have many friends here.

Pete
x
963) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Kitsch (Message 1986643)
Posted 22 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
How low will you go?

Anything you consider as kitsch is OK as long as you like it.

It doesn't have to be low art.

Kitsch is everywhere.

Music, any art, video, poetry, books ... almost any form of style is acceptable.

Even photos of those flying ducks above your hearth count :)

I will start with a song I think is kitsch but...

The Buggles - Video Killed The Radio Star

I just love the song.

It noted a moment where VHS (or betamax) tapes came into play.

Other than that it was a rather useless song.

The woman in the pink was a boyhood fantasy.

There were quite a few songs from this period where the singers \ actors never looked at the camera.

They all seemed disinterested.

Still I like it.
964) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Thoughts upon the origin of the universe (Message 1986636)
Posted 22 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
......But answer me this.

Why do Universities and other "apparently" scientific institutions employ social dropouts and nerds to research just that???? You wouldn't let your daughter marry one so why pay them money?

As volunteer crunchers we are all employed by Berkeley even if for no money..

I shall remember this wisdom and tell the young women in my family never to marry a SETI BOINCer. :)

Likelyhood is my family females will give me short shrift and tell me to get lost and not tell them what to do.

But if they do choose some 'drop out' we do have some poking sticks....

As to why

.... institutions employ social dropouts and nerds....

Maybe it is because we never applied for the possitions? :)
965) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 1986612)
Posted 22 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...Most recently it was annexed by Brussels...........(EU).

Which is controlled by the Saxons (Germans) & Normans (French). :-)

Not exactly but yes.

A nice retort :)
966) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 1986609)
Posted 22 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
It was by the Saxons (Germans).


Don't forget the Normans and the Romans too...


Not forgetting the Vikings or Celts or even the Spanish who are now part of our Cornish folk.

.. and even if we homosapiens took over we still have some 4% gene neaderthal.

In England we have always had a fluid population.

Scotland, Ireland or Eire and Wales less so.

I am a midlander so probably more anglo-saxon \ viking --ish. Personally I am proud of my pan european and a touch of neaderthal background.

4% neaderthal includes all of you americans and australians to. Just in case you get the feeling for living in a cave and eating reptiles. :)
967) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 1986593)
Posted 22 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Israel doesn't have sovereignty over the Golan Heights.


In reality 'Israel' (the Judaic community) has no claim to the land surrounding Jerusalem or encroaching outwards on the original inhabitants.

Israel gained it's legitimacy after the second world war. I have no issue with the need for a safe place after WW2. I do have an issue with the displacement and disenfranchisement of 'others' \ people or communities....

From Israel's perspective however it does have legitimacy and sovereignty over the Golan Heights and further afield if only just by the Tora \ old testament.

Beijing will do the same to South China Sea.

I am still waiting for someone to annex England. (Perhaps it has happened and I have not noticed.)

Maybe the best thing for us all is if Jerusalem, Mecca, the temples of Shiva or our political institutions et-al sat on fat deposits of gold.

I doubt that many a believer would leave a single stone standing.

We could then perhaps have some measure of peace.
968) Questions and Answers : Web site : Recent Changes To Website (Message 1986498)
Posted 22 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Could also be your browser. Which browser do you use?

You're right that the toolbar is JS, hadn't seen that yet. Last change to the file was done two years ago.


Sorry for very late reply.

With JS switched off I can do this:

Oh My Goodness

If I load the page with JS on I can't do anything from the message \ text formatting menu. Just write plain text.

If I go visit seti_beta I have to switch js back on because their top menu won't work otherwise.

I don't think it is my browser given it is both very compliant with basic JS and copes quite well with inter-browser issues.

Anyway. Time has passed.

I now switch off JS for this forum.
969) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1986479)
Posted 22 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
upset
970) Message boards : Politics : Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food and Drugs, Recalls #5 (Message 1986427)
Posted 21 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Cigarette Smoking....

........
Understand that what I was posting, as others have posted, is that there appears to be some differences among races, gender's, regions, etc. regarding negative susceptibility to disease causing factors.

Repeating: DNA?

DNA plays some part for sure but DNA strengths are scattered even within single communities. (Even more so in our world of wider travel.)

There is of course different production methods across the world and different cultural uses of tobbaco along with environmental factors that have a part to play. (Even more so for areas of poor or illegal production.)

(Environmental may be for example food that is eaten or even moisture in the air.)

I admit I smoke. My granny smoked and my parents did. Probably why I became adicted.. :(

I wouldn't measure my grandmothers longevity against mine.

Smoking sucks for anyones health regardless of demographic or health.

In Britain you can't smoke in any public enclosed area.

As a smoker I agree with this even though it might be annoying at times :)

Alcohol is another issue. Britain recently dropped it's advised units per week from 21 to 14.

All those middle and upper classes downing a large glass or two of best wine per evening must suddenly be feeling like adicts...

DNA does have value. Certain communities and their spawn are resistant or immune to AIDS simply because of a peculiarity in DNA their forbears passed on from the period of the black death.

The DNA arguement is as complex as any other.
971) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1985842)
Posted 18 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Quetzalcoatl

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972) Message boards : Politics : BREXIT (Message 1985799)
Posted 18 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
We are lucky. We have no war in Europe.

I think you mean within the EU.

... Only in the 90's there were war in the Balkans. And now in Ukraine....

I know. I kind of meant there is no war that is Pan-European or likely to distabalise Europe at the moment.

Eastern Europe (UK = Far South East?) has had a really poor time. Even now there are agressive forces at play.

... But I think it's the longest period of peace in Europe's history, 70 years, in the rest of Europe.
I think it was 20 to 25 years between wars before that...

We are more than lucky.

....I'm quite certain that the price of food will rise in Britain though.

Karl Marx said if there was going to be a world revolution it would start in Britain and would be fueled by Capitalism. (Of course he said that in time with all the other isms.)

For me it makes no difference as long as food, housing, health and the basic needs of life are affordable and don't dip.

.Come to think about. I haven't been to the UK since Sweden joined the EU 1995.
So to me Brexit will not be a change:)

Does Sweden sell anything to or buy anything from the UK? Does Sweden use British banks or institutions?

I think expected Brexit is already having an effect.

If Britain (the 4th or 5th? largest financial ecconomy) moves away from it's nearest neighbour I think it will have ripples around the world.

Listening to world news - it seems so.
973) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Thoughts upon the origin of the universe (Message 1985783)
Posted 18 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Are you thinking of Quantum Entanglement aka "Spooky action at a distance"?
There is no energy involved in that phenomena and therefore the second law of thermodynamics is still safe.


Can you prove that an action does not create a reaction and whilst the two energies might cancel each other out can you show that no energy has been expended or created.

'Quantum Entanglement' is an idea \ theory. It isn't an everyday proven fact.

If you observe the 'Quantum Entangled' how do you know you have not added or subtracted from the activity.

If in Quantum Entanglement no energy is involved then resonance, space and matter may also be collapsed or at issue.

Anyways.. The law of thermodynamics (heat) is essentially the same as saying movement of energy or matter within a system has equilibrium.

Localised I would agree.

I'm just looking at my aspect of the world.

It does my head in how in such a small aspect so many things are different.

...even at second glance.

I think as we look at the universe we might find something similar.
974) Message boards : Politics : BREXIT (Message 1985756)
Posted 18 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Since the coal and steel industry is the base of the war industry, the joint control of these industries would secure future peace in Europe.


The coal and steel (or at least iron) industry has been going on pre-roman and mostly since us humans (and our forbears) gathered together.

I understand what you mean. Relative to the industrial revolution as we see it. (1700+)

... but the coal and steel industry in any time in our history has nothing to do with war. Though war does hasten the need for certain products like energy and metals.

Resources are things we have always found and used. We exploit this.

War sadly has just been a more violent exploit.

Rarely though in the past for such things as coal (trees) or iron.

Although when basic resources get low ... who knows..

Britain has no coal resources that it is mining and we are not churning up our landscape to extract iron.


Even if we do the political Brexit thing we are still part of Europe.

We are lucky. We have no war in Europe.

At the moment most Europe issues are not secured based on coal or iron.

We have moved on.

Perhaps oil, gas, copper, aluminum, i-phones and sweet potatoe mocha latas are the new lingua-franca in terms of absolute needs..

Or maybe France is correct in it's dedication to careful use of atomic energy. After all it sells it's surplus electricity and has a policy of working towards breeders that may one day allow an atomic cell to power a city for years but produce no more radiation than the energy used.

I have no special understanding of Brexit.

We may gain some things.

We are going to lose our neighbours.

Britain (or England) has oft stood on it's own.

I wonder if the Brexit vote wasn't something to do with a harkening back to the 1940s.

We have had a right wing conservative mindset for so long now (even from the supposed left wingers) that the social connectivity and working togetherness of 1940s Isolated Britain seems like a good place to go back to as a reset.

moomin.. You make me think..:)
975) Message boards : Politics : BREXIT (Message 1985737)
Posted 18 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Before concluding, I would also add that the roots of the EU was first the European Coal and Steel Community, then the European Economic Community,. This name was first proposed as the name for a post-WW2 means to control Europe in 1942 by the Nazis in Berlin, they called it Europaische Wirtschaffgeseilschaft, which you guessed it, means European Economic Community in German, because the Nazis thought they were going to win. It later was renamed the European Union.

If ever there was a bad smell about an organisation, then the fact that it was first proposed by Nazis, has to be it.


Fascist 'European Economic Community' to 'European Union'. That is quite a bit of a stretch.

Not that it isn't interesting or doesn't have some historic play but the words 'European' and 'Union' are in themselves or combined quite innocuous


In conclusion, I would say that anyone that voted Remain, wasn't voting for what has since happened and what is proposed subsequent to the Lisbon Treaty as the future of the EU, because nobody was aware of this in 2016, except the politicians. .........


I suspect that most people voted stay or go emotionally and only the minority middle \ upper classes or intellectuals voted with their wallet, ideology or with ideas like the 'Lisbon Treaty' et al?

Many voted to leave because since Thatcher (Circa 1999) there has been no real opponents to the march towards monetarism in the UK and certainly no social minded governments.


It is estimated that we will be £137 Billion better off in the first year outside the EU on WTO Terms, and £640 Billion better off over the first five years, conversely the EU will be £500 Billion worse off over the same period, figures courtesy Professor Minfford.


The end finances of leaving the EU is yet to be seen.

There certainly is a relationship building with China and cheap products including low quality piece meal items for the masses.

(It is even driving down legal standards in the UK. For example at one time it would be illegal or unthinkable to sell an electrical device \ component that did not have a UK or EU stamp of approval on it. Now we can buy (and the local shops sell) any old cheap crap... I know... I've had things set on fire that should not have.)



Its what you Americans call a 'no brainer'.


I don't think all Americans would agree that leaving a wide community for some short (or projected long) term benefits would be a 'no brainer.'

20% of the US can't afford basic health care including primary first aid or basic dental care.

It is likely that a larger number struggle to keep a basic or average level of living standards.



For me I think we are facing something of an emotional or perhaps primordial reaction in the Brexit vote.

The reason we haven't left yet or started to disconnect is because the powerful and wealthy are postulating and second guessing what they personally will gain or lose. They also have no regard for law or our political system as things would have moved much quicker otherwise.

(My vote on Brexit is private as the majority has voted..)



That's my story, anyway. Others will contribute theirs.

My contribution.


I added my bit too... In my own way :)
976) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1985732)
Posted 18 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
mainly

(mostly)
977) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Thoughts upon the origin of the universe (Message 1985731)
Posted 18 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The second law of thermodynamics states that the total entropy of an isolated system can never decrease over time.


How do we know the universe is an isolated system?


I like this thought.

... because it does not lead to the idea that there might be multi or other verses...

It simply could mean there is no 'known' or 'calculable' border to our verse.

It might also mean that if we all agree our universe started as a dot in the big bang it had to have something to expand into. In other words the universe already existed before that dot of matter exploded and went forth into it (ahem.. contaminating it.)

The second law of thermodynamics is a great idea mathematically or observed locally but that doesn't mean it scales up or accounts for a fluid system or infinite possibility.

Nor does it account for trans or sub dimensional transfer of energy however minute. Say two linked particles rotating in the same direction across a vast distance that are caused to switch direction using force or energy at one point.

I think we like finite answers.

... but maybe the universe didn't start with a big bang or a big crush but actually just started as a vast bowl of soup or dust or matter particles that have coalesced into planets and us.

Can you actually call 'infinity' a system?
978) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dick Dale has passed at 81. (Message 1985716)
Posted 18 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
An hour or so of Dick Dale, music, chat and friends:

Dick Dale - Live at The Viper Room 6/2/2018 - YouTube

I like it when he plays the trumpet.

If he had been born in the UK he would have made a sublime Punk rocker.

He filled the space with sound.

Thanks kittyman.
979) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Great movie soundtracks. (Message 1985694)
Posted 17 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Gattaca
Code 46

Not because they will be remembered as great soundtracks on their own but because they work well and enhance these great movies.
980) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1985690)
Posted 17 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Seville
981) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1985687)
Posted 17 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
William
982) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1985669)
Posted 17 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Saxon
983) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1984663)
Posted 12 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
fire
984) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1984649)
Posted 12 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
amphora
985) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy 8 March ! (International Women's Day) (Message 1984648)
Posted 12 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
International Women's Day

For my sisters, nieces, daughter, grandaughters - for my mothers, grandmothers and for the women in my life.

You are and have been a source of inspiration.

I think we forgot Women's Day on the 8th of March.

Anyways.

If there has ever been a woman who inspired you or if you as a woman inspire others let us know.
986) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1984639)
Posted 12 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
github
987) Message boards : Politics : Socialism (Message 1984071)
Posted 8 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Rent for a 1 bedroom flat \ apartment is about £120+ for a small private landlord place.
And here it's now a minimum of 400 pounds for a small bedsitter! Most 1 bedroom flat \ apartment is about 600 pounds!!!!


I assume that is per month and not per week?

To a degree it doesn't matter the cost of rent as long as the average local wage can cover it without debt and with enough left over for a decent standard of living.

The problem is private landlords see their residents as just a way of paying off the mortgage for next to no effort.

Social landlords (here at least) these days have little or no power so their housing stock is falling into disrepair.

I'm not sure I am a socialist.

.. but I do think security of basic needs like shelter (+ food, clothes, primary health care..) should always be offered openly... not just by the state but by us all as best we can.
988) Message boards : Politics : Socialism (Message 1984047)
Posted 8 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Just out of interest which country do people think is the closest to socialism at the moment?
989) Message boards : Politics : Socialism (Message 1984044)
Posted 8 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Sweden is a lucky country......
That was some years ago and now it's very expensive to visit England.


It is true.

A plain loaf of bread here costs about £1 or about $1.

Rent for a 1 bedroom flat \ apartment is about £120+ for a small private landlord palce.

A bottle of Vodka is £10 in the main supermarkets.

Paracetamol is 30p (£0.30) for a weeks worth but Co-codamol is £2.50 even though there is next to no real extra cost.

Liter of milk is around 95p (£0.95)

Today I guess Britain can raise it's prices.

Perhaps when time is done we can raise our heads?
990) Message boards : Politics : Socialism (Message 1984022)
Posted 8 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Since you mention the "Ruling Class".
What ever happened to "We the people" in the USA?
In our Constitution it's "All public power in Sweden is based on the people and the Riksdag is the people's foremost representative."


Sweden is a lucky country.

After WW2 your ecconomy was still intact. (Britain's and others were fairly destroyed.)

This is important now as Britain is still amongst the top 5 ecconomies even though we have only just paid off the WW2 debt.

(I still wonder if we have yet paid enough...)

No doubt there is a rulling class.

In English history I believe there was a discussion with Oliver Cromwell. It was a about a forest between armies.

Cromwell noted that whilst the forest separated them from us it also stood as a boundary that protects the poor from the rich.
991) Message boards : Politics : Socialism (Message 1984016)
Posted 8 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... What is Socialism?


I guess after 100+ years of arguements about what is communism \ Socialism | Facism \ Capitalism Et AL we shouldn't really be asking this question.

I think at the moment given the world values (USA, Britain, China, Europe & Asia General , Russia ETC) are pro capital it is hard to cut out or see a more social - less financial world.

Karl Marx believed that capitalism would be the engine that brought about a communist \ socialist world.

I guess once all the resources are used up as a modern society we would have no choice to become social or face the consequences of individualism.

For me the question isn't "What is Socialism" or whatever but the question is about how we can live with the benefits from our world where others suffer or gain less for what we get.

What is realism?
992) Message boards : SETI@home Science : National Geographic Seti Videos--Comments (Message 1983988)
Posted 7 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
William.

Give us some links to the videos you are talking about.

In that way we might be able to join in or respond to the media you are thinking of.
993) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Photographs by Setizens 2 - Originals only - any subject (Message 1983974)
Posted 7 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Keith.

Photography is a forté for you.

Grand stuff.

Keep em coming.

:)
994) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1983972)
Posted 7 Mar 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
pocket ;)~
995) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1982686)
Posted 28 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Polish
996) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1981790)
Posted 23 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
captives
997) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Farewell and Rest In Peace - Gordon MacKenzie Lowe (Message 1981788)
Posted 23 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The last message I had from Gordon was on the 5th Feb. No real indication of fatal health issues.

I have sent him several messages since without realising he had died. :(

If I could wish one thing it would be that we all take into our hearts and way of being something of Gordon. It would enrich each of us.

As others have said he was very gentle and kind. As a Mod and member he was the best and most generous of spirits.

He had a profound and deep love for his mother.



Gordon. As you travel across the river know our love for you.

You are with your Mum now.

Will miss you mate.

Pete xxx
998) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1981114)
Posted 19 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
one’s-self
999) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! Part VII (Message 1981110)
Posted 19 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...notepad...
I will stay with my KISS editor as for now:)


So you should.

Was just discussing some editors that were not too far away but might have useful extras.

If we are being basic I still use "Edit" some times.

Nano is nice.
1000) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! Part VII (Message 1981098)
Posted 19 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
단어는 항상 회사를 사랑합니다.
....
But frankly I don't understand why there are perhaps hundreds of editors available doing the same thing.


I guess a notepad application is the same as "Hello World".. Thousands of people want to share their first main creations even if they are premature.

Bless them all. :)

I don't think GitHub is supporting Notepad that is a Windows product though.
Whatever. I like KISS products more:)


I did not mean MS Notepad..

www.portablefreeware.com has a good collection of notepads from small to large... KISS included.

Programmer's Notepad might suit some.
1001) Questions and Answers : Web site : Recent Changes To Website (Message 1981097)
Posted 19 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Opps.

Noticed also if I switch off JS then the top menu:

"Project | Science | Computing | Community | Site"

no longer works.

What's up guys n gals?
1002) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1981094)
Posted 19 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
(to)

Grave
1003) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! Part VII (Message 1981088)
Posted 19 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Are those editors also localized to other languages?
Like handling letters like ÅÖÄ?....


Western Unicode..

Try handeling:

단어는 항상 회사를 사랑합니다.

I guess all we need is an application that serves our needs.

Not all simple notepads will do that though there are quite a few revisions on github. Open to all.
1004) Questions and Answers : Web site : Recent Changes To Website (Message 1981078)
Posted 18 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The URL button just adds url tags around text you selected. This is used when you add the URL bare.

= Is only used when you embed your URL under a line of text.

As far as I know the forums don't use JavaScript. I think only the recaptcha uses JS.


My question is why when switching on JS non of the buttons work..

I.E: JS is interfering or intercepting with the normal button functions.

The forum post mechanism does include JS:
    bbcode_t.js
    bootstra.js
    jquery00.js



as well as CSS:

    bootstra.css
    css00000.css
    sah_cust.css



I was just wondering if something had changed lately.

Bootstrap is my thought?

It's not a great matter. I have switched off JS for this domain so I shouldn't have to worry for a while :)

1005) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! Part VII (Message 1981067)
Posted 18 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I'm still using Notepad on Windows instead of VI on Unix.


As a simple and better update try 'Notepad2mod' (and associate txt etc to it.)

I remember old Amstrad Word-processing.

I am not a fan of keyboard shortcuts beyond copy, paste and switch windows \ apps ;\

Unless you are hell bent on being a complete programming \ text aficionado VI / VIM / or variations for Linux \ Windows or GNU are difficult to master.

Metapad is also a great alternative to Notepad.
1006) Questions and Answers : Web site : Recent Changes To Website (Message 1981047)
Posted 18 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
18/2/19

Has there been some changes to webcode (HTML\CSS\JS) lately?

If I switch off JS I can click the URL button and get:

[url]xxxx[/url]
(I never understood why you didn't add in the '=' ??

However in my browser non of the BB function buttons happen when javascript is enabled.

Either I never noticed this oddity before or something has changed.

Just a report as I still browse with JS disabled unless I have no choice.

Just noticed.
1007) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1981045)
Posted 18 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
school
1008) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1980640)
Posted 16 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
comedian
1009) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The continuing of life's adventures of the kittyman. (Message 1980626)
Posted 16 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I believe the old zen saying involved something about 'improving the silence', and when I can't, I tend not to.


I'm terrible at doing the silence thing.

If only I knew how to uncomplicate the world.

Just popping in to say 'Hi Kitty'.

Good to see you.

x
1010) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1980623)
Posted 16 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
realist
1011) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1980023)
Posted 12 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
hatter
1012) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Photographs by Setizens 2 - Originals only - any subject (Message 1980018)
Posted 12 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Last night's total lunar eclipse....


For you Keith:

CLAIR DE LUNE

I'm with Byron.

You have a great eye for a good picture.

Northeners hey! :)
1013) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1979994)
Posted 12 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
toss
1014) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1979975)
Posted 11 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Leprechaun
1015) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1979227)
Posted 8 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
chase
1016) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1978712)
Posted 5 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Madeira
1017) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Oumuamua (Message 1978640)
Posted 4 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Objects in our space will always peek our curiosity.

Mostly they are just mundane though.
1018) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give us a Caption - # 71 (Message 1978637)
Posted 4 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I'm watching you kids.

'You better not get up to any horse play.'
1019) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1978632)
Posted 4 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Pugilism
1020) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1978630)
Posted 4 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Pandora
1021) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Theories on why we haven't found alien life yet (Message 1978629)
Posted 4 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
We are all wibbly wobbly? ;)
1022) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Google+ Shutdown. April 2019. (Message 1978234)
Posted 2 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I got the email too, though I've never used Google+.


Ever used a Google group (forum) or any other Google service?

Perhaps some group or forum you use uses widgets or is indexed by Google?

All pervasive hey :(
1023) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1978230)
Posted 2 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Aurōra
1024) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Google+ Shutdown. April 2019. (Message 1978229)
Posted 2 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
UltraViolet is somehing different to free forums, email, calandar, etc...

Is UltraViolet connected to google?

Are we going to see a cascade effect from google's lead with other companies following suit?
1025) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1978218)
Posted 2 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
treasure
1026) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1978215)
Posted 2 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
cache
1027) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Google+ Shutdown. April 2019. (Message 1978210)
Posted 2 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Just in case you missed the email from google and you have a google email or group...

Google is shutting down these services. (They say they are under used.)

If you need to do a backup sign in and read this page: "Download your Google+ data."

It's a shame. I still get emails from people asking about things we discussed near a decade ago.

Times change hey.
1028) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1978189)
Posted 2 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
binding
1029) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1978182)
Posted 2 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
knot
1030) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 100 (Message 1978173)
Posted 2 Feb 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
teeth
1031) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1977387)
Posted 27 Jan 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
mini
1032) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Theories on why we haven't found alien life yet (Message 1977360)
Posted 27 Jan 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Or perhaps an advanced space faring race will happen after we fade.

Again we wouldn't know about it. It's almost as if you are saying life comes and goes, so why bother about anything?


Not being negative.

You clipped the bit about "maybe it is us that will be the first.." interstellar race.

Time-lines are important when searching for events.

You wouldn't look for the migration of buffalo on the plains when they are happy grazing in the hills.

If you had just 1 second to search (a parody of our 50 years) within the yearly migration and you had no choice about that second you would miss what you desire to find.

You may however discover lots of other things.

I would say it is a stoic way of looking at things... but then stoicism was a Greco-Roman reason based spiritual belief who's believers were hunted down and annihilated by Constantine's Christian followers.. :(

The latest theories are that the remnants of Atlantis left behind knowledge that helped the Egyptians construct the pyramids.


I have no doubt that some civilization existed we now call "Atlantian" and that some volcanic or natural event overwhelmed them. It is quite possible some of the survives ended up in early Egypt and took some ideas with them.

As to helping build pyramids. I doubt that. I think the Egyptians were quite capable of putting one block of stone upon another.

In a similar vein there is an idea that South American Incan society was founded by people from the borders of India and China given similarity of iconography, cultural values and even stonework.

Again these are time-lines but we shouldn't assume our localised earth bound time-lines are a match for the enormity of space.

Perhaps a different lens is required?
1033) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1977299)
Posted 27 Jan 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Childhood-Memories
1034) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Theories on why we haven't found alien life yet (Message 1977295)
Posted 27 Jan 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
My theory is time-lines.

It is possible in the past billion years that some amazingly advanced space faring race existed but petered out well before we could have heard any message in our last 50 years of listening.

Perhaps they sent a message but it went past us in 1930?

In a way it is the same as the comprehension of the vastness of the universe argument.

Or perhaps an advanced space faring race will happen after we fade.

Or maybe it is us that will be the first.. or at least within our possible time-line.

I wouldn't expect too much until we have the capacity to put a working group and tech on the Moon or Mars.

It will take either a 'worldwide collective' or a 'single minded vast nation' to do either of these. (Or capitalist \ financial cabal :))


P.S. I am glad some people have taken on board the universe might be shrinking rather than the accepted idea it is expanding.

Not because I believe it is shrinking but because I think in the fluidity of a vast universe with localised and universal gravity all our measurements should be looked at with suspicion.


I don't believe in the fantasy (a sort of replacement folk-lore for gremlins) that aliens have visited us and helped build the pyramids, hidden amongst us or done some rude probing of us.

We are still children at this so I wouldn't expect much soon.

However SETI exploration and data does have many other uses.

SETI is the epitome of looking outwards and wondering...

Let the looking outwards and wondering continue.

(... and if there is a little myth in there... why not :) )
1035) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1976392)
Posted 22 Jan 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
contemplative
1036) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1975796)
Posted 18 Jan 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
exposure
1037) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The continuing of life's adventures of the kittyman. (Message 1975794)
Posted 18 Jan 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Singing You Happy Birthday.



(Image borrowed from deviantart.com.)


You Are Ours Forever You Know Kitty.

Have A Good Birthday And Loving Year To Come.
1038) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1975688)
Posted 18 Jan 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
naturist
1039) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1975261)
Posted 15 Jan 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
flattery
1040) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1975255)
Posted 15 Jan 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
forger
1041) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Bugs, Insects, and Spiders (Message 1975254)
Posted 15 Jan 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
'Spiders raining' in Brazil leave student who filmed phenomenon "stunned and scared"


What the hey.. It will be raining frogs next.

I think I would be happier with frogs than spiders.

The thing that amazes me is that only spiders were caught up in the gust of wind or weather anomaly?

I hate spiders (near me) so this would be my worst nightmare.

Think I will be closing my windows and vacuuming every corner of my bedroom tonight.

Thanks Suzie-Q ;o) <eek>
1042) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1975244)
Posted 15 Jan 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
prosper
1043) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1975236)
Posted 15 Jan 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
body
1044) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1975225)
Posted 15 Jan 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
entwined
1045) Message boards : Cafe SETI : XP Users (Message 1975218)
Posted 14 Jan 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Some web browsers that work and have active development for XP:

Basilik
Borealis

http://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/search/label/browser

Mypal
Newmoon

https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal/releases

Slimjet?

Others.. (Not For Me.):
Advanced Chrome Custom Build.
K-Meleon Goanna


I prefer Basilik (or Mypal \ NewMoon.)

All of these browsers I have run via TOR so can be extra secured if required.
1046) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1975214)
Posted 14 Jan 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
peaks
1047) Message boards : Cafe SETI : XP Users (Message 1973322)
Posted 4 Jan 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... ... Tons of ATM's are still running XP and will be for years too come. ... .


I guess 'tons' = 100s of thousands or millions worldwide in publicly vunerable places?

That concept it self is a statement of it's stabilility!

... But even updated, IE is not your friend. It uses/allows many insecure security protocols which any attack site can use and get full access..


IE is a pretty simplistic browser but doesn't really allow access to anything unless you give it some pretty broad perspective VB permissions.

I use IE to serve simple framework websites running on internal python scripts as a cheap alternative to building a GUI. It works great for that.

I doubt any web-attacker would even bother targetting IE6\7 these days which makes it probably increadibly safe.

Most people install far more invasive software these days on their modern OS's.

They happily upload the whole content of their address books, photo albums etc without any concern.

... As to those security certificates, IIRC at least one ROOT certificate was stolen a few years back allowing anyone, er the thieves, to sign anything and it would be fully trusted...


Only ever an issue if the actual IP of the end service is unknown or compromised.

For example a thief would also have to steal the IP of paypal or intercept trafic and even if they created an acceptable approximation of their website would also have had to also of stollen some part of the paypal database for user \ password (and finger printing) login.

Non of this is XP related except that it is dated in terms of web technologies..

A statement I agree with.

... but then there are browsers and ways of resoling much of this.

XP is a fine O/S. IE is a good browser. They just can't be allowed to wander unrestricted on the net. Firewall them and limit the IP's that they can visit.


True of any OS.

I don't even rely on the internal firewall of whatever flavour of Linux is up this month.

Interestingly whilst we don't tend to think of CSS as an executable (like javascript for example) it can cause a whole load of issues.

A couple of years ago the CSS (bootstrap based?) on this and many sites used to crash my browser.

Again not really XP based issues.


Perhaps a western forum is not the best place to chat about the usefulness of XP.

As said before I do have other OS's. Was just interested to see what other XP'ers thought.

... and chat about ideas and solutions..

My Win8+\10 machines I had to cripple and hack as I was not happy how these fully updated firewall machines were sending too much data outwards. (Potentially to those uncertificated IP's everyone keeps talking about)...

Oh the irony...
1048) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1973283)
Posted 3 Jan 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
encompassing-long-arms
1049) Message boards : Cafe SETI : XP Users (Message 1973282)
Posted 3 Jan 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I've understand that XP isn't that safe to use anymore, mainly because there are no more updates for it?
However, I still got it installed in one of my old PC's. It's disconnected from internet, has software for different kind of network gear, ham-radio configuration and some things that don't support 64-bit systems. But there is interesting open-source project for a XP-clone; https://www.reactos.org/. It has nothing to do with Linux, and has regular updates running. It's in alpha-stage, tough. May be worth of looking.


Unsafe is a relative term. I don't think I have had a virus on my computer for many years (since I understood what was happening.)

ReactOS is an interesting project. It is more windows 2000 in visual style. It's updates do happen but have time inbetween.

I don't think they have enough funding or interest because of the concept that XP is \ was unsafe to make ReactOS a viable alternative.

I'm not promoting XP above other systems.

My PC that I am typing to you now is not unsafe.

You can't get into this PC even if I gave you my IP unless you could break my service providers (Virgins) firewall.. and then break my internal firewalls.

You might be able to do DOS attacks but that doesn't mean the OS is unsafe.

XP is a wonderfull OS. Obviously as it is no longer updated it can't take advantage of new hardware.

(I'm not anti linux.. I'm just chatting about Windows XP stuff..)

Win98 was great too.. but it did have the odd habit of BSOD every so often.. Just like Win3 (or even more with Win3.11 + 32bit)

Does anyone remember the Calmira shell?

I have had an XP machine running for 3 years in the past with only a couple of reboots that I instigated myself.

It's not an arguement whether winXP is better than Win7+ ... but more about enjoying XP and if we can extend and continue our usage.

The idea that it is dangerous and will steal your soul I suspect is marketing ploy.

It does have issues though. Primarily web tech (CSS, Java, JS...)

It also has been targetted by site that once provided certain data or media but now expect SSL certificates that XP no longer holds even though the data is exactly the same it was 10 or even 20 years ago? Why?

There are ways of getting around this.
1050) Message boards : Cafe SETI : XP Users (Message 1973168)
Posted 3 Jan 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Hey, I have an old Laptop Asus Z9100L, which I haven't thought about for years.
.........
Now I'll just try to connect to my WIFI.


I could only find a Russian site about Asus Z9100L for some odd reason.. It's a 1.2ghz machine?

Superb as an XP office machine. Low wattage so could also be a good choice for home automation..

Personally I would not run BOINC on a laptop.

Most of the problems with XP isn't that it is not capable but that web technology doesn't take account for it.

I still use Opera 12 as my primary browser and it copes with many things but stresses over some new useless inventions.

There are many web pages that looked the same as they did 10 years ago but no longer are easy to view due to problems with javascript or CSS. Why?

Want to add some software to your Z9100L take a look at portablefreeware. Not all XP but portable and won't mess up your system.
1051) Message boards : Cafe SETI : XP Users (Message 1973151)
Posted 3 Jan 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Any people still using XP?

Not neccesarilly to crunch.

Do you have any get arounds for issues where XP has been locked out of services?

Internet wise youtube for eample?

I put BOINC on a Win 7 PC but I use XP as my primary day to day primary PC as it boots quicker and copes with most of the tasks I need of it and can do anything Win10 (without the candy) can do... It is also easier to network.

Anyway... Anyone still using XP?
1052) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1973143)
Posted 3 Jan 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Intertwined
1053) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1973129)
Posted 3 Jan 2019 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Uriel
1054) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Well that's just about another year done with. (Message 1972822)
Posted 31 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Best wishes for the new year.

Hope you have a good one.
1055) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy New Year (Message 1972818)
Posted 31 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
* * Happy New Year * *
* * * * * * * * to all * * * * * * * *

I hope we all get to keep crunching and have the oppourtunity to connect with each other more.

If you get up to any midnight antics this new year's eve let us know ;o)
1056) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1972796)
Posted 31 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
artichoke
1057) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1972786)
Posted 31 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
organ
1058) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1972778)
Posted 31 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Dermatologist

(or Mom :))
1059) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1972535)
Posted 29 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
landlocked
1060) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having A Quiet Christmas? (Message 1972534)
Posted 29 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Hope everyone found something good this Christmas time.

Mine was quiet but did get to see loved ones just after xmas which was special.

Missed being here in the cafe. Best wishes to all.
1061) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are you coding? (Message 1972532)
Posted 29 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I don't consider myself a programmer.

More of a scripter really.

I'm quite good with python.

Have done some funky things with Access Database and VB, SQL.

Most of my stuff is for personal use but have done some charitable work for foodbanks to set up their databases.

Delved into PHP.

I understand some C, C++ and C#

I play with microprocessors as a hobby. (Home automation, robotics etc..)

As a kid did BASIC, ALGOL and COBOL... Only remeber BASIC now.

I really like python. It's a very natural programming language.

The only issue with Python for me is that GUI Editors are not always that good.
1062) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having A Quiet Christmas? (Message 1971879)
Posted 24 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Wishing all those having a quiet Christmas on their own, or suffering Xmas blues, warm greetings throughout this period.

I'm having an all in one veggie dinner of 'bubble and squeak'.. Saves all that washing up :)

Might message a couple of people and of course pop in here to see what you are all up to.

For entertainment I will be watching seasonal horror :o}

That's about it really.

Christmas can feel disenfranchising at times.

What you doing this time of year?
1063) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Would you go? (Message 1970485)
Posted 15 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... and perhaps the question is asked in the wrong forum but sanity forbid it ever be asked in the Politics forum.

That is an oxymoron and a complete contradiction in terms.

Hey to be told I used an oxymoron makes me feel quite proud. :)


..... because their own people won't touch them.

But I digress. The option to bugger off to another star system is quite attractive at times!

It is true that us westerners have become quite picky. Don't worry though there is a long term plan to downgrade and turn us away from the social quality of social responsibility towards private resource.

Perhaps what we should do in the aspiration that some alien might turn up and offer safe passage is do a little practice.

Does anyone have a poly-tunnel they don't mind some nuters inhabiting for a week or so?
1064) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1970463)
Posted 15 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Gross
1065) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1970406)
Posted 15 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Intity
Our Admiral Hippy :)

Inner-being
1066) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Would you go? (Message 1970391)
Posted 14 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
My comment was merely a wonderment at how far off topic some threads get.

I will of necessity have to accept a measure of blame.

Apparently I too had forgotten that the OP was about going away with ET to some other unknown (to us) world.

I had to remind myself as well!

In any case, I think a journey to another star would be totally amazing, with your hosts telling you all about your new home, tours of the starship etc. But if you got really bored you could always debate how to run an ethical business or how to sue the local Council, or how to buy a Presidency. Hours of good fun to be had there.


Oh pants :)

I guess we know it is about whether we would go (or throw ourselves) into space knowing the inherent dangers given our current capabilities...

... and perhaps the question is asked in the wrong forum but sanity forbid it ever be asked in the Politics forum.

For me it is a lovely question because, yes immediately here in SETI we understand it is about space travel but...

... it is or could be more than that...

It kind of echoes the idea of throwing ourselves out to the wind and having courage (or ignorance) to make a distinctive change in our lives.

To be poetic the idea of 'Would You Go' makes me think of the Latinium Goddess Aurora..

Upon the dawn \ a new day.

I'm not surprised the thread title invokes many ideas outside of just space travel.

Well done OP :))))



Other questions relating to the original spirit of the the thread might be:

If on Earth you couldn't find a job but you were offered a job on Mars with triple pay as a sewer worker - would you go?

(Somebody has to do the low gravity dirty work.. eek)
1067) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1970380)
Posted 14 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
unique
1068) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1969704)
Posted 10 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
rotten-cabbages
1069) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1969692)
Posted 10 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
prices
1070) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1969667)
Posted 9 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Brown :)
1071) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How do you like your caffeine? (Message 1969666)
Posted 9 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Weird Science: Why do we like the taste of coffee?

"Bitterness evolved as a natural warning system to protect the body from harmful substances – and by that logic, we should want to spit it out."



I would have thought 'sourness' was a greater taste indication or food infection rather than bitterness.

The story of Mrs Beeton is interesting. (Mid 1800s celebrity cook and wifery)

What we know about her today is that she probably aided in the deaths of near a million people (mostly children + old and unhealthy) through her advice to add Alum (Aluminium 'Salt') to milk to help it keep..

Essentially Alum masked the sweet sour taste of milk going off (no fridges at that time.)

Sadly it masked the sour smell and taste that would normally indicate harm.

Mastitus, CJD, E.coli, salmonella, Anthrax, Q-Fever, ++

Mastitus is still a major issue (particularly in the US) due to the over use of of hormones to help produce more milk. Mastitus also causes bleeding from udders. (This brings in the various viral and microbial issues such as Rabies..)

Mr Beeton whilst being the darling of the socialite classes quietly became a mass murderess.

She's kind of an anti-heroin.

I've used her cook book since I was a child.

She gives a mean recipe for Sand Cake.
1072) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1969660)
Posted 9 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
red
1073) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Would you go? (Message 1969654)
Posted 9 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I think it is time to put our selves to the test and all turn up at Chris S's house to do pre-flight training in his back yard :)~

As funding is limited everyone needs to make their own space suits and helmets.

Bagsie's (UK slang for I have first choice on) using a space invader crisp box for my helmet.

You up for hosting a convention of extranaughts Chris S?
1074) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Theories on why we haven't found alien life yet (Message 1969643)
Posted 9 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Perhaps

7. Some religions are right and the earth is the only cradle of aware life.

8. Too much background noise from even the nearest star.

9. The universe is shrinking and not being center of any place special signals are coming in at so many different frequencies we are just missing them.

10. ET or intelligent life has not reached industrial levels required to send a signal.

11. ET. Sent signals with the answers to life, the number 42 everything that reached us 5000 years ago but we were too incapable to receive.

12. Time and universe are vast and we shouldn't imagine other life forms parallel our own evolution... It may be that many advanced cultures happened 10 million years ago and that we are at the end or lull.

13. We are just unlucky ;)

.
1075) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Recipes and Food II (Message 1969629)
Posted 9 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Now the threads gone cheesy. ;)


Bought some Taleggio cheese couple of days ago out of interest.

It stinks and tastes like fermenting real ale, halitosis, sour grapes and old salty socks.

(I never imagined something could have so many distinct flavours and smells all in one..)

It would definitely attract malarial mosquitoes from miles away.

Strange thing is that this slice of pungent poop is half gone.

I just can't help going to the fridge and nibbling a little more just to see if I really do hate it.

I do. I do. I truly hate it.

.. Hold on let me just go check again ... ;/
1076) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1969613)
Posted 9 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
infertile
1077) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1968740)
Posted 5 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
first-prime
1078) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1968712)
Posted 4 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
beautiful-woman
1079) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1968254)
Posted 2 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
cloistered
1080) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Recipes and Food II (Message 1968249)
Posted 2 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Anyone have a particularly festive, "tried and true" alcoholic holiday punch or (cocktail recipe that is easily batched) to serve about 20?


You have enough time to boil up some lemons, limes, oranges, cloves, cinnamon and grated ginger root with dark brown sugar. (Quarter \ half kilo sugar per gallon is enough for fizzy punch. You can use sweetner to sweeten if dry after ferment.)

Before that get as many recently emptied diet coke bottles as you can. (Diet coke as it doesn't leach flavour into the plastic.)

1 for ever two or 3 people so 10? (2ltr)

Prepare a clean bucket (swab in boiling water \ baby bottle cleaner etc...)

Add cold water.

Mash the boiled syrup and fruit and add that.

Cover. Leave to cool in a warm place :)

Just less than hand warm (not hot) add a packet of bread yeast.

Next day.

Use a colander and funnel to pore into empty diet coke bottles.

(Or just let the must cool.. Add a bit to each bottle and add tap water if you know it is clean.)

Leave in warm place (15 to 20 deg C?)

Make sure you go around the bottles every few days and then every day and tap them to listen to their ring... You might need to open the cap and release some gas... (You don't want them exploding on you..)

Depending on how much sugar you put in and the temperature 2 to 3 weeks might give you 3 to 5 percent as it clears.. (If everything is perfect you might even reach clearing and a very dry 7% in 3 weeks.)

Unlike bought fermented and filtered alcohols it will be a naturally complex alcohol so may be a little bit more punchy than expected :)

Anyway try a couple of bottles and if it works decant (so as not to pour out the yeast) and add some ice, something sweet and pride that you tended all the yeasties that made your fab alchohol.

In between time once the alcohol has started fermenting you could always decant a little of the young brew and make some batter for fish.

Or add a little to flour and next day make a loaf of bread or pizza base..

As a bought thing I like elder flower, fizzy water, a little vodka and orange blossom water.
1081) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Photographs by Setizens 2 - Originals only - any subject (Message 1968243)
Posted 2 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Took this last,..along with quite a few more...at Preston Guildhall.....it's the Aussie Pink Floyd...one of the best, if not the best Floyd tribute bands. They can't be that bad if Dave Gilmour books them for a gig...

...IMAGE...


You have an eye for this GNU.

From some of your other photos I have wondered whether you should be a photo journalist.

I love the photography in the old Picture Post magazines.
1082) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You Know It's Coming. (Message 1968233)
Posted 1 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Hearth and home:

1083) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You Know It's Coming. (Message 1968232)
Posted 1 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Who decorates the house? Who organizes the gift list and does the holiday shopping? Who wraps the gifts? Who does the Christmas cards? Who organizes and preps for your holiday parties? Who cooks all the special foods every family looks forward to having this time of the year?

If your answer to any or (gasp!!!) all of the above questions is "my mom", "my grandmother", "my wife", "my sister", "my daughter" or "my girlfriend", then step away from the endless football games on tv, turn to that woman and say, "How can I help?"

I love you, Angela! ❤️


True for the most part in many average families.

My Dad use to cook Sunday dinner, our weekday afternoon teas and breakfasts. If he didn't do it us kids had to. My step mom did all the stuff inbetween. (They both worked. My Dad did long night shifts in aerospace but still found the time to do the family washing.)

Though my father likes watching football and rugby it was never a passion.

(Or more of a cave man group drug.)

Maybe that is the problem. Football :(

Anyway maybe it is time for a bit of tinsel in the thread?
1084) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 99 (Message 1968217)
Posted 1 Dec 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Polyandry
1085) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You Know It's Coming. (Message 1967671)
Posted 29 Nov 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I'm 6'1" tall.


I'm 5' 11". Minus gravity and shrinkage over time.

Slightly taller than the average male which means everyone asks me to put their tinsel up.

I'm too knachered to put my own up ;)

At 6' 1" you are probably in demand at this time of the year.
1086) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1967670)
Posted 29 Nov 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Hospitals
1087) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1967659)
Posted 29 Nov 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Estate

Crown-Estate

.
1088) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You Know It's Coming. (Message 1967655)
Posted 29 Nov 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
You Know It's Coming.

Have you unpacked the tinsel and lights yet?

Even more worse... have you started your XMass shopping...

The shops are sure ready and I see they have even started putting chocolate and sweets on discount....

I wish I trained as a dentist :)
1089) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1966772)
Posted 23 Nov 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Perfumer
1090) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1966763)
Posted 23 Nov 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Scatologist <eek> ;)
1091) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Being Charitable (Message 1966703)
Posted 23 Nov 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Thanks Suzie-Q

To add - I would still think about Chernobyl

http://www.chernobyl-children.org.uk

Or

https://www.chernobyl-international.com

There are a variety of other charities.

(If it's a UK charity you can look up their details and check them out.)

I like the ones that both supply medical and social support and offer children and their families holidays and breaks away from the radiation zones.

We forget about these old disasters but some continue.

Sadly I see you can now book a tour or holiday in Chernobyl for as little as £\$100

Just adding another option for thoughtful giving.

.
1092) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Breakthrough - Listen. (Message 1966700)
Posted 23 Nov 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Fredrik.

Giving you a wave from here in the UK.

Welcome to SETI.

As an acupuncturist do you know about pressure points?

Which pressure points would you use to promote optimism?

Good to see you here.

Have fun.

cRunchy
Pete
1093) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1966697)
Posted 23 Nov 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
owed
1094) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Thanksgiving! (Message 1966695)
Posted 23 Nov 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Happy Tofurkey Day.

Hope you all had a good thanksgiving.
1095) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1965616)
Posted 16 Nov 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Delectable
1096) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1965575)
Posted 16 Nov 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Frozen
1097) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1965504)
Posted 16 Nov 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
ideas
1098) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1965067)
Posted 14 Nov 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
trumpet
1099) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1964499)
Posted 10 Nov 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Tucker
1100) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1964479)
Posted 10 Nov 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Aussie-Cooking
1101) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1962473)
Posted 29 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
square-law

.
1102) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Just thought I would pop in and say... (Message 1962461)
Posted 29 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I love the fall weather...the changing of colors..

Yes, and finally summer is over. This one wore me out.


Yes it wore me out too!!




I love a misty or frosty morning. Colours in Autumn are sublime.

More....

.
1103) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1962459)
Posted 29 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
tails
1104) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Do you think ET is here now. or was in the past? (Message 1962457)
Posted 29 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The ultimate goal of the Boinc project Seti@Home is to search for evidence of ET. ........


Since you highlighted it.
...........
Asking questions like ET out there now, here now, or been here in the past?

Only the question [b][i]if ET out there now
can be answered by the SETI quest.
......
But I crunch anyway because we might be lucky:)


To a degree I agree.

There is no way SETI can tell if an alien intelligence can exist at this moment unless aliens are close to our own solar system given the time for radio, light or 'special' waves need to travel from far off places.

The only true thing SETI can express is that aliens did exist at some point or they are close. (Perhaps also that they may be moving at some point if close enough to calculate.)

Of course if a big thing that shouldn't be there is detected by SETI then that might be of interest too.

The question as to aliens are here or have been here is age old. (Chariots of the gods... et al...)

I don't believe so. I think humans have been around this circle many times and our Western constructs of how our world cultures have interacted is historically or intellectually wrong. (We have been more interconnected and faired the seas and journeys better than we think.)

Humans are quite capable of creating their own amazing mysteries even if forgotten in time. (Lets not dismiss our capacities.)

I too look outward in interest and fascination. I also look towards ourselves and our own world.

That's the point of Boinc-ing and doing SETI.
1105) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link Discussion Thread IV (Message 1961407)
Posted 21 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Eleven = 11

I was born at 11:11 pm.


They say 11:11 means an angel is close and watches over you Gordon.

Lets hope it's a cheeky one that brings fun.
1106) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1961405)
Posted 21 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
fold
1107) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1960737)
Posted 18 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
flamingoes
1108) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1960726)
Posted 18 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
red
1109) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Would you go? (Message 1960722)
Posted 18 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
there is no satisfaction to go live on / in center of a desert rock or meteorite of course.... need a beautiful place :)


I don't know. A meteorite made of gold pressed latinum might be quite a beautiful place!
1110) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Would you go? (Message 1960721)
Posted 18 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.....TV series "The Expanse" deals with the question "Would You Go" in a slightly different way. ...
... When presented with an opportunity to explore and colonize planets around other stars there is no shortage of volunteers to make the one way trip to new worlds.


corporate capitalism
mobile workforce
nuclear families

They risk not as simple 'volunteers' but from neccesity of work, hope for a good payday or because that is their only place to be.

During the series a preacher on a transport was asked about the one way journey. He spoke of God (his payday?) then said "with great risk comes great reward..."

Truth is that great life changing risk tends to come with great chance of harm or loss.

All the players in the series trust in the science and tech so it is not such a 'real' risk for them.

Perhaps a bit like flying on an older plane today with a company that cares a little more for the profit than the people... but not more than most of us do at some time.

Not a bad series but a very American perspective of how the solar system might be ;)~
1111) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1960703)
Posted 17 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
tea
1112) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Would you go? (Message 1960702)
Posted 17 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Here also a quite good reminder that science is not necessarily only proven facts, except for only wonders of nature itself.


Modern science can explain virtually all of what we used to call the wonders of nature.


The majority of matter in the Universe is made up of dark matter. Dark because we know little about it and what it might hold within it.

Not too different to the 'Dark Ages' after the collapse of the Roman empire.

We have little insight.

We may be able to flesh out the parameters of certain things but can not always tell its nature or story.

Einstein took (or it has been suggested) a core understanding for his theories from Ayuvedic writings on the "atum" (spelling) from 5 thousand years of heritage that used wondering about nature (intellectual and emotional reductionism and expansionism.)

I doubt science has answered but the questions that we can ask with our limited mechanical vision.

The Greek \ Egyptian \ Hellenic \ Alexandrian understanding of a flat world comes into play here. They realise as a ship passes over the horizon it hasn't fallen off the world it has simply gone below the arc of what we can see.

In child psychology a child will cry if their ball goes behind a chair but there is a distinct age where something triggers in their brain (experience and growth) when they realise the ball still exists but their vision is simply blocked or the chair is hiding the ball.

Science (the practice of) is a small aspect of universal human life. We may accept it and enjoy aspects of it or even think we know something about something but it is yet to be universal as a way of being.

I doubt aliens would come just to anal probe us. The might vivisect us.

Given the cost of distance traveled they would probably have some desire for gain or pleasure :(

Raw science does not dictate morality.

To be honest I suspect they would do very much what we would do if we visited their home.

I would consider any voyage but not sure if an alien turned up on my door step I would follow easily.

If some geeza Buddhist monk from Tibet called Norbu Sangpo knocked on your door and told you he would take you on a journey that would be out of this world... would you go??

He'd probably be a prober too :)

OK enough with probing. :)

Science provides outlines and principles we can test and refine to get a model of aspects of the universe (local or major.)

Problem is is that science is led by what we know. It generally doesn't follow the path of what we don't know unless we stumble upon it.

I've always felt truth is something Gods and Mathematicians know. Gods because they know all and Mathematicians because they deal in the finite (1+1 = 2.)

The rest of us and most of have to deal in honesties. A more difficult but perhaps valuable proposition as it keeps us searching for a deeper truth or better honesty.

Don't disagree with you Chris. Just more complex?

To throw oneself out even to the moon with the mindset of discovering what you don't know and not simply to add to what you already know.. Now that would be the adventure.

I want a cave on Mars with a window that looks over the dusty red plains towards earth. Give me a pick, shovel and notebook and I'll dig us a colony and do the science.. and love journey.

I just hope where ever I go it isn't named Botany Bay :/
1113) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1960028)
Posted 13 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
& Simple
1114) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Bugs, Insects, and Spiders (Message 1960019)
Posted 13 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
That is an amazing and interesting spider type.

Body shape is quite unique.

Do you know what it's 'official' name is?

Is it edible?.. (Just in case one travels 6000km and decides to creep into my mouth whilst I am sleeping.. )

Good macro.

A spider in my back yard. It's really difficult to photograph things tiny like this. ;-)

1115) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Would you go? (Message 1960013)
Posted 13 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... I would say that aliens would probably look something like this.




I'm a bit disappointed as how they going to probe us wearing such suits ;)

The Greys must be totally tiny and anorexic in their match stick suits.

It's 'War of the worlds.' It's our hideous diseases that end up defeating the invaders.

Interesting thought: There is no reason to suggest in the millions of years our planet has existed that no other higher level creatures like ourselves or cultures or economies could not have existed. Perhaps they traveled out to the solar system and killed off most of life.

It is quite possible Mars for example had microbes that would love to eat me as a meat or water bag.

I would still go... but I would want a good suit come full body condom ;/
1116) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1960002)
Posted 13 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
saw
1117) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1959994)
Posted 13 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Mellotron
1118) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The continuing of life's adventures of the kittyman. (Message 1959989)
Posted 13 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

There is most certainly a genetic component involved.
.....


This is most certainly true even if most 'Modern' treatments discount a physical causality.

(Most current treatment for alcohol suggests it is just a psychological habit issue.)

To an aside point. Research shows that many sibling children that were separated during or just after the second world war (adopted) ended up suffering the same form of depression. (Brought up in separate homes with different environments.)

Where the original parent existed and were found the gene markers were found to be the same and passed on through pro creation.

As to children of the second world war the gene marker, or genetic memory if you like, was due to trauma.

It probably requires some level of significant trauma (or perhaps significant environmental change from the norm.)

No doubt this trauma can include continuous or damage by alcohol from emotional, intellectual or health use..

Not suggesting all problems are genetic or physical.. Just saying it is a possible causal effect.. and either way it can be something we end up passing on to our kids because our problems become genetic.

There are many reasons why we have problems.

... and many more reasons to lift ourselves and others when we can.
1119) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1959982)
Posted 13 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
transducer

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1120) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Would you go? (Message 1959972)
Posted 12 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


thats a very good point. and it is same as colonizing other planets. each planetary ecosystem have their own bacterias/viruses !!


It is a very good point and not too disimilar to people venturing into areas of our own planet.

Meeting unknown populations, diging mines, open cast mining, environmental warming... ect...

Some of the new microbes we encounter on new planets will not know what to do with us (just like a plant virus won't infect a dog..) but some might and if we stay a while some may adapt to their new human hosts or meals.

.. but then humans might also adapt (though probably be it slower.)

I would assume if we found a new planet that had usable gravity and some atmosphere that didn't corrode everything we would start our lives there in some sort of extended sealed habitats.
1121) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1959964)
Posted 12 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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bone
1122) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1959961)
Posted 12 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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comedian
1123) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1959647)
Posted 11 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Swiss-Banking

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1124) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1959631)
Posted 11 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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twins
1125) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1959621)
Posted 11 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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female - legumes ;)
1126) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1959610)
Posted 11 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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legumes
1127) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link Discussion Thread IV (Message 1959608)
Posted 11 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Bird's Eye is a brand of frozen peas in the U.S.


So to in mine and many a country.

I wonder if those freshly frozen American Bird's Eye peas frozen moments after picking are the same as our English Bird's Eye peas frozen moments after picking.

Do you have those Bird's Eye fresh garden peas that are so green and sweet?


"Bird's Eye" is also an idiom which is the better perspective I think.

To see, to oversee or perhaps to understand more perhaps.


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1128) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1959601)
Posted 11 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Bird's-Eye
1129) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The continuing of life's adventures of the kittyman. (Message 1958751)
Posted 6 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
And there is a side of me you do not know.


Just poped in to give you a big wave kittyman as I haven't said hello or spoke to you for ages.

Keep the best and worst sides of yourself to yourself as they are the most treasured. Share the centre and human side of yourself for that is where life is.

To glisten in life is wonderfull.

A diamond has many sides.

xx
1130) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1958748)
Posted 6 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Bürgermeister
1131) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Would you go? (Message 1958706)
Posted 6 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
on the floor of their spacecraft for the duration



it made me think about something....
i think you guys assume the travel will take you couple of hours... or maybe a couple of days...

but what it the travel to their home planet takes 3-6 months ? just to get there ?
or what if it takes 3-6 years just to get there ?

would you still go ???


Personally I think if we got some message or indication of life with our level of technology we would need to use an enourmous ship with a really thick hull (to defend against errant bodies we can not detect) and the usage of nuclear explosives.

It would have to be a generational ship that carried random semen and eggs so as to avoid degeneration of the population.

It would also have to spin or pulse to emulate gravity as we humans need such a thing.

Perhaps with such a ship and nuclear explosive propultion we might get to a near by star system in a few hundred years.

Just in time for the aliens political system to change and for them to hate immigrants ;)

We don't have the technology and even if aliens shared their ideas it would take quite a leap of industry to reproduce it.

Of course we could use magic :)~

The moon or mars are our best places to attempt..


PS. I would still go on some generational ship to palnet X.

After all it is the adventure as much as the hope or desire of seeing a new world.
1132) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1958700)
Posted 5 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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bean-burger
1133) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1958339)
Posted 4 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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forlorn
1134) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Would you go? (Message 1958300)
Posted 3 Oct 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
What if the aliens liked it here better than home and invited all their families to join them?
If their immigration papers were in order, I dare say that England would welcome them with open arms. :-)


Cheeky.

We do have immigration issues here in Britain (England if you like) (The sheer number of incomers.)

... but the history of Britain has actually been absorption. In the past it was Europeans but now a wider range of people.

I love the heart and nature of England though I do dislike and question what the powerful are doing in changing my \ our society.

Karl Marx once said that 'if a world wide revolution was going to happen in would start in England.'

Maybe that is why Britain and England is under such pressure to conform to an American style economy and social attitude.


As to making a base on the moon or mars it has always amazed me that when sending up a rocket we drop off sections to burn up in the atmosphere rather than getting them into space and then sending these metal tubes off into space to land on the moon to be used in some form.

Sending a large drilling machine to mars should be quite simple. It could land. Be directed to the correct spot and start drilling down to provide a simple underground shelter.

The surface of the moon and mars are problematic. Toxic dust for one. The moon has low gravity so only OK for short stays. Mars gravity would require a good exercise regime.

The moon however seems a brilliant place to set up some industry to further explore our solar system. (Less energy required to break orbit for one.)
1135) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Would you go? (Message 1957869)
Posted 30 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Disregarding my odd humor.

I would throw myself out into the utter unknown.

For hope.
1136) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Would you go? (Message 1957868)
Posted 30 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Are they human eaters?

You don't normally negotiate with your lunch. Well, at least I don't chat to my ham sandwich and ask if it's convenient to eat it. (not so far...)


I'm at a bit of a loss since I try not to eat things that can think, feel or have a face. Your ham before it was slaughtered had all those attributes.

... and pig farmers often talk to their animals and lull them into a false sense of being broiled..

So I guess what you are saying is that your aliens might well baste us in olive oil and salt and smoke us but won't talk to us whilst roasting us...

If someones going to roast me I'd rather they spoke to my face ;)

(I would seriously think about going on a one way trip to Mars.)

That actually may be the only option on the first manned trip.


Exploration of our planet from any shore has always been the same. We either travel out looking for gold or glory or god... or we throw ourselves out in hope that the future we may not see brings benefit.

Either that or we are some what insane.

I still think we should elect a ton of the worlds most horrid people and let the aliens take them away.

What if the aliens took your loved one and instead of them coming back young they came back oldy?

No reason to think aliens are good..

They could be really rude.

I could go to Mars but if I had the chance but if not I would love the chance to take a little place even in earths worst wastelands... I would do that too.. Why not explore whatever you can...

(By the way by keeping this thread going I expect 1% and the aliens are not allowed to roast me :) )
1137) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1957864)
Posted 30 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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XX
1138) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1957829)
Posted 29 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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sheep
1139) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1957775)
Posted 29 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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mint
1140) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Would you go? (Message 1957732)
Posted 29 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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.....After signing peace treaties etc. ....


That suggests there is some reciprocal agreement.

What do these aliens get for my disappearing with them?

Are they human eaters?

What do the masters of our planet get for encouraging us to go?

What's your profit Chris as the travel agent?

Do we get interstellar phone calls home from the other side?

Can only American pensioners to go? (Cocoon)

What if there were 6 people on the planet we just didn't like above all others. Couldn't the aliens just take them?

(I am sure we could come up with a list.)

(OK. I'm teasing.)

(I would seriously think about going on a one way trip to Mars.)
1141) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 98 (Message 1957724)
Posted 29 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Grandparents ;)
1142) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Recipes and Food II (Message 1957198)
Posted 25 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Stinky tofu. Fermented tofu.


If you haven't you should try Kimchi (national food of Korea.)

An even more stinky fermented food.

Some argue that German sauerkraut (a type of Kimchi) came from the Mongolian expansion under Ghengis Khan.

I love soft sour dough bread. Especially as toast with real butter. (Sadly most of the supermarkets here don't make it properly so it's a bit un-sour dough.)

I don't eat meat but I think just the thought of fermented fish or seal meat (Inuit ) would just make me bork.

Do you like Anchovies?

Brie cheese stinks horrid until you eat it. I hate the crust but the cheese is lovely.

Stinky foods.....
1143) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1957193)
Posted 25 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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mashed
1144) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1957190)
Posted 25 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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rotten
1145) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1957185)
Posted 25 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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stuck
1146) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Recipes and Food II (Message 1957174)
Posted 24 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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I use tofu.

How it is cooked and flavoured can depend on the type of tofu you buy.

I suggest getting fresh tofu. (It normally comes in a pack that has water surrounding it.

You can get soft or firm tofu. I prefer firm.

Tofu on it's own has an odd flavour. (reminds me of bananas and petrol :)

If you are going to chunk tofu the best method I have found is to slice the block laterally and then place the slabs on a tea-towel with another tea-towel on top and a flat weight on top of that.

This will press out any excess fluid.

Make sure your tea-towels are not washed in washing powder as its perfume invades the food.

Brown paper will also do the job.

After that chop into chunks and make your flavourings.

EG: Some pepper, garlic, salt or soy sauce et al and a little oil in a bowl.

Gently toss your chunks and leave for a while.

After that gently fry the chunks in a non-stick pan until a little golden or until the firmness you like.

I don't really like plain tofu but if flavoured and fried a little I love it in light Miso and noodles.

If you want something different to soy sauce and prefer something more meaty you could try Maggi's Liquid Seasoning which is vegetarian and made from Sorrel.

Tamarind is also a nice sharp flavouring.
1147) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1957154)
Posted 24 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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agreement
1148) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1956860)
Posted 22 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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intercontinental
1149) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Would the Governments of the World Try to Suppress News of a SETI Discovery? (Message 1956428)
Posted 20 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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But without many thinking outside the box, we would not be where we are today.


I would tend to disagree. We are where we are today as a society because of the billions of lives that went before us that added their moments to a hope for a better future. No out of the box thinking. Just effort.

Of course there are moments where some surpass but even those never thought out of the box.

Einstein took a great deal of his thinking from Vedic traditions.

Mad people might think outside the box. Not sure we will always understand them.

Nazi's think outside the box but that's probably because they were outside the box to start with.

I do think as we become more industrial \ technological progress in certain areas will speed up.

The biggest drawback to science is the many who concentrate their thinking on what they have experienced & know. The concept of thinking outside the box is alien to them. A closed mind has many boundaries.


That sounds a bit like the less educated or less 'knowing' are a problem when it comes to understanding the boundless ex-box truths that we might know :(

I think the everyday people are the ones who create and maintain a world in which some of (if not all of us) can image a place outside the box.

Thing is there are many boxes and 99.99% have nothing to do with aliens.

The interesting thing is whilst we try to look outside the box we forget or are too scared to look at what is in the box.

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1150) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Photographs by Setizens 2 - Originals only - any subject (Message 1956391)
Posted 19 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Settlement..a temporary art installation on The Barrows, Heysham village...




Brilliant.

Makes me think of the Martian Chronicles...

You have an interesting eye.

Thanks Keith.

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1151) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1956389)
Posted 19 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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blooming meanings
1152) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Would the Governments of the World Try to Suppress News of a SETI Discovery? (Message 1955851)
Posted 17 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Believing there is a correlation between technological superiority and moral/ethical superiority.

Has not been the case with us humans and may not be the case with aliens.


I'm not sure there is a correlation between technology, morality or ethics. (Or whatever is meant by superiority,) (Sounds like a manifesto for the Uber Race..)

Star Trek would have us believe that there is as long as it us as humans that possess all these attributes but come to the aliens it often shows them as often lacking even if so called more advanced.

"Morality and Ethics" we can only describe in our own terms so there is no point in talking about them until we meet an alien who can tell us their values.

It takes us a massive amount of resources and finances to send a person into space. (It would probably cost the same for an alien race to do the same.)

In fact the whole package of sending and maintaining a person in space probably costs the same as feeding a 100 families for a life time or educating 10,000 to degree level or giving a sure start to 100,000 kids lives.

A little exploration is OK but it would cost aliens as much as it costs us to reach the skys even with any supposed technological advantages.

Any aliens that turn up on our doorstep would probably be knacked and desperate.

That is assuming that in the millions of years of the universe any local aliens still exist or that will exist when we throw ourselves out into the void.

Lets not assume that because we are overpopulated on this blue orb that life at our level exists anywhere else.

The universe might just be having a complete and utter lull in alien races at the moment.

Now I sound really negative :)

... On a more up beat note all of your neighbours probably think you are alien ;)))~
1153) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Chair (Message 1955842)
Posted 17 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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The ottoman, which in this case can be used as storage which is very lacking here.


This looks quite scary.

It reminds me of one of those boxes you put your penny in and a great big hand comes out and takes your penny and then swallows you up.


eek :(
1154) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1955838)
Posted 17 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Iruika
1155) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1955830)
Posted 17 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Sakura
1156) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1955825)
Posted 17 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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cordial

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1157) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Chair (Message 1955793)
Posted 16 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Neither one of those last two chairs posted look very comfortable.


No but you wouldn't be very uncomfortable in an electric chair for long... Unless there was a power outage :)





(Just to add... I am anti-death penatly \ state murder.)
1158) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Would the Governments of the World Try to Suppress News of a SETI Discovery? (Message 1955788)
Posted 16 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Unbreakable codes
& they're man made codes. Therefore, who here thinks that a signal from E.T. will be that easy to decipher?

....


It made me think.

The Russians had a variety of simplistic but heavy mechanisms that aided them in going into space.

There has been proposals to send vast space ships into space using small nuclear explosives.

There is nothing to say that so called aliens are more advanced than us.

They may just be more willing to traverse the cosmos in heavy crafts (probably better) using hideous methods?

The problem with the Western (USA?) perspective on Aliens is that they must be in advance of us.

... some ways yes.. some ways we don't know.

We assume space travel is hi tech but in reality most of what will protect you from radiation and particles or rocks will be just plain old solid and thick walls.


What if one day a steam punk alien generational ship parked itself in orbit.

.. and what if they knew nothing about our stuck on earth ciphers but just wanted to say hi?

Or even worse wanted to migrate here...

It's a possibility?
1159) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Just thought I would pop in and say... (Message 1955776)
Posted 16 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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HELLO!

I lurk a lot..I'm watching you...

*haha*


I don't lurk as such.

I get involved in a couple of threads but I do look around.

You haven't posted for a while Michael. (July.)

Maybe something will peak your interest or you could create some thread.

Good to say hello to our quieter fellow Boincers.

Hello to you :)
1160) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1955304)
Posted 14 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Camel
1161) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1955293)
Posted 14 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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girl
1162) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1955136)
Posted 13 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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shindig

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1163) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1955123)
Posted 13 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Hypnotic
1164) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1955096)
Posted 13 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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enlighten
1165) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Would the Governments of the World Try to Suppress News of a SETI Discovery? (Message 1955091)
Posted 13 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Chris:
Music Player, somebody needs to say something to help you here. For some considerable time now you have tried to contribute to these threads. I don't know what your nationality is, but unfortunately English seems not to be your first language, and any language translator isn't working very well. That is a shame because you clearly want to contribute, have a lot to say , and spend much time at the keyboard in that endeavour. But it is extremely difficult for any of us to interpret the gist of what you are trying to say......
.......


and

Stargate (S.A.):
As always MP kills a thread.


I do think that ultra long posts and ramblings (dialogue not focused on the listeners \ readers needs) are a problem in forums.

They are hard to understand.

There are many reasons why people ramble. (Age, lack of focus on the reader, alcohol, confidence.. et ad..)

It is always important to type as if we are talking to a real person we wish to have a two sided conversation with or discover thoughts from.

Anyway their are moments in which Music Player has an alternative voice.

@ Music Player

Do you see the world from a religious or spiritual perspective or do you just play devils advocate?

Rambling is a great thing but is a personal journey. We as readers need the shortened and considered version.

Music Player I look forward to your perspectives. (Just a little more reader orientated.)

I too have been reminded by the community once or twice in my time to stay on track and fit in.

As Chris said: "because you clearly want to contribute, have a lot to say"

It's a community thing and it's a sign of value in those who want or try to belong. ...

It is a reason I like SETI.

Now I'm rambling :)

Stay with us Music Player...
1166) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1955075)
Posted 12 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Two-sided
1167) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1954236)
Posted 7 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Fairy-spear
1168) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1954227)
Posted 7 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Shillelagh
1169) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1954198)
Posted 7 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Big Bang

(From Which We Became...err...)
1170) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1954183)
Posted 7 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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facile
1171) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1954125)
Posted 6 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Xenu ;)
1172) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Would the Governments of the World Try to Suppress News of a SETI Discovery? (Message 1953400)
Posted 2 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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This is all getting a bit religious really and straying from the thread title. it always used to be that 90% of the world believed in one religion or another. But it seems in the 21C that Atheism is growing. ....


So Atheism is the new religion :)

We are straying but the thread subject to be honest only had two or three possible answers.

So what do we do now?

Some interesting thoughts...
1173) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Would the Governments of the World Try to Suppress News of a SETI Discovery? (Message 1953395)
Posted 2 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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When you look at all the people that say they don't believe in religion, how may times a day do you hear OMG when something happens???

It just shows you how infiltrated religion is into society.

Perhaps Religion, meaning a codified belief in the existence in a Deity(s).


I wonder what the several billion who grew up in communism say..

OML = Oh My Lenin.
OMM = Oh My Mao.
OMS = Oh My SETI.

OOPS = "Well You All Can Fill This One Out :)"


I swear, curse and grumble. Sometimes to gods or forces I never knew.

Is just the need of humans to believe that they and their thoughts doesn't cease to exist upon their physical death. Include a need to believe that their personal existence has more meaning than that of a rodent.


I don't think that using a cursive is more than expressing a deep disappointment towards what we have been told or learnt or accept as a major force.

All evidence suggests we are hard wired for the concept of 'other' and 'external' forces.

By part that is our social nature or our desire to belong.

The thought of me being worth more than a rat is not a universal tradition.

Maybe I'll be a rat next time around.. (If there is a next time.)

I don't know what animals think but I do worry about what happens at the end of my time.

I've spent a fair amount of time amongst youngsters (as an educator.) I can tell you one of the common questions or worries of a 5 or 6+ year old is about death. (Or their loss of existence.)

I don't think we are exactly physiologically programmed to wonder about our demise. I just think it is an inevitable consequence of being 'self aware' with the ability to express and the idea that we can act upon our world.

People are strange.
1174) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Would the Governments of the World Try to Suppress News of a SETI Discovery? (Message 1953381)
Posted 2 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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The bible.....

i believe "days" has been a very wrong word/traduction for what it was intended to try to describe the "time" it took.


It is arguable that the bible we have today has many many mistranslations and errors of remembrance within it.

The idea of the 'soul' for example is a Greek philosophical belief.

The thought of Jesus spending most his early years in the desert is just bizarre.

In Pakistan \ India there are notations that he spent quite some time around North Pakistan (as we now know it.)

At that time Gandharan Buddhism still had sway (along with Hindu traditions.)

It's no wonder Jesus came back with the beliefs he had.

Major things are missing or perhaps mistranslated or even 'mis-traduced.'

Not that I am complaining... I think the general concept of 'love ones neighbour as one would love oneself' is a primary value.

i think "periods" would have been a better translation. ......


This is where Islam wins. It has less uncertainties about it's translation from it's profit.

billions of years was a very difficult concept 2-10,000 years ago and didnt had proper words for that.


Vedic writing going back some 5000 years talk of primary matter particles.. (Atoms.) as well as sub atoms parts.

(I think Einstein learnt a few things from Vedic ideas??)

I suspect if you understand a particle toward near nothingness you can also understand the concept of a billion.

(Obviously the majority of surfs wouldn't have the time or education to reflect upon such concepts between the beatings and drudgery of life... but I suspect the concept of vast numbers were understood even if little used.)

Many of the writers in the Bible had Greek, Egyptian or Roman levels of skills.

In Egypt and Alexandria they were already calculating the distance between the earth and moon and soon to know the sun was the centre of the solar system and not the other way around.

The problem with the Bible is that it didn't finally come together until Rome had split.

The bible developed in the primarily European side of Rome... A tradition that took Euro-Roman values near a thousand years to look up at the sun and realise we were circling it..

The bible is a part of my heritage so I won't knock it too much.

When someone reinterprets 'the word' though it seems odd. If the bible is the word of god then there surely can't be any mistranslations.

Have you ever wondered if the Bible is simply a construct of the devil and the word of god is a truth that need not be written.. ???

Now if SETI discovered a box floating in space from 1600 years ago with a hand written copy of Constantine's bible in it that would truly be worth government suppression..

It would break the world.

In this area I think SETI has more chance of findings aliens than discovering humanities truths...

The SETI board however are challenging (by idea and persona) and that is worth something..
1175) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1953351)
Posted 2 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Powerpuff-Girls
1176) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Would the Governments of the World Try to Suppress News of a SETI Discovery? (Message 1953333)
Posted 2 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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...
Voting day here in next Sunday:)


Who are the main candidates and what do they stand for?
1177) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The continuing of life's adventures of the kittyman. (Message 1953325)
Posted 2 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Just a bit of an update.
My elder kitties are showing their age these days. But, they still love me to bits every time I go to bed with them.

For me, life's been pretty good. And in this day and age, that is probably better than good.

But.........here comes the confession..................
I drank tonight. After a year and a half or so, I succumbed.

..............


Kittyman.

What will you do when your kitties pass?

I don't know how many cat's you have but given your nom-de-plume here cats are a strong part of your life.

We all succumb to something.

Do you have a back up plan for when things go totally crap? (When the cats die?)

Kitties are the eyes of Ra and walk amongst us.


If you loose yourself.. you might loose us..

.... and we like you here..

Stay safe Kitty.
1178) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Would the Governments of the World Try to Suppress News of a SETI Discovery? (Message 1953319)
Posted 2 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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What possible reasons would the American (or any other) government have to suppress news of a SETI discovery?


I think we have already answered that previously. My own opinion is that any discovering government WOULD want to keep it quiet for two main reasons.

1. If the USA made contact first, would they want to share that with Putin's Russia? I rather think not, they would want to reverse engineer any info they could get to obtain a military advantage.

2. In my opinion most of the worlds mainstream religions are based on flimsy foundations of self belief and non evidence. Some in particular only flourish because it is indoctrinated from birth, then reinforced in adulthood by family and societal pressures. Once belief in core life values is dented then civil unrest could well follow.


This is 1950's type thinking I suspect.

If a message was aimed at, or a craft landed in,

SETI wouldn't discover a crashed martian invasion craft as SETI looks out to the sky and only a segment at the time so the question of salvage is out of the window.

As to mainstream religion and that they may attempt to reinvent their stories.... That is just the same 1950s paranoid assumptions.

Judaism (therefore Christianity) have a belief that the 'world' came about about 6 thousand years ago... but god took 7 god long days... which might be a billion... to create the earth.

Islam (as far as I am aware) has a broad perspective on this.

Me since I am likely to have the 4% Neanderthal gene believes that there is so much more to discover.

There are only two reasons I can see for governments to suppress a SETI discovery.

One is to avoid panic.

Two is to ensure financial stability.

Though panic can often increase financial gain :(

Fear of the unknown.


Hey I come on to the SETI threads not knowing what responses I might have had..

It's scarey...

.... and worth it.

I wouldn't ban or suppress anyone though. (Unless they were aggressive.)
1179) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Would the Governments of the World Try to Suppress News of a SETI Discovery? (Message 1953311)
Posted 2 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I am a self admitted atheist and agnostic combined.


But that's a contradiction.
Well I'm also wonder as many others.
....


I'm not sure it is a contradiction. For me 'agnostic' means 'believe in what you can see' but even with the traditional interpretation 'unsure of the existence of god' it is not anti atheist.

I believe humans are dualistic. (Animal and Human. et al..)

Existing in dualism is the only way to properly explain our capacities.

(I also think we lack something else that would bring us together and away from harm..)

I could give myself labels such as atheist, agnostic, believer, religious, spiritual or such but any label or belief becomes a cap to our potential.

I would like to be just human (the best human I could be) but contradiction maybe our only way.

One day perhaps.

.. But then what is we discovered contradiction were the very thing that made us human in the first place?

Now if SETI discovered the solution to contradictions I suspect many governments (powers) would want to block or own the truth. :)
1180) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1953296)
Posted 1 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Ra
1181) Message boards : Cafe SETI : seasonal cleaning... (Message 1953294)
Posted 1 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
the computer room is in disarray this week.
moving stuff in and out. going to fire up the big crunchers
in october when temperatures fall.

btw, its hotter than hades here..well if hades has humidity.



It's been quite warm (for once) here in the UK.

I have a computer for SETI running in the main room and another room is my bedroom (always on PCs).. Both rooms tend to be 2 or 3 deg C above the rest.

My coldest room is the bathroom.

If I could I would put my machines in the bathroom and VNC into them.. (.. but moisture..)

"seasonal cleaning." for me at the moment is vacuuming up the spiders (gently in a low power car type vac and releasing them later) that are coming in looking for a dry place after the odd shower.

We had few spiders this summer as it was uber hot but now they flourish.
1182) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Would the Governments of the World Try to Suppress News of a SETI Discovery? (Message 1953285)
Posted 1 Sep 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SETI scans the skys. At some point it probably intercepts government or military or private satellite data.

... what if SETI heard something universally irregular or regular that shouldn't be there?

You can't always understand the data as it may be encrypted but perhaps something about the nature of the transmission might throw a switch.

SETI records extra-terrestrial events. What does it do with recordings of satellite transmissions, even if caught in the background?
1183) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Would the Governments of the World Try to Suppress News of a SETI Discovery? (Message 1952819)
Posted 30 Aug 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Back to earth so to speak..


OK. Back to the subject of the thread.

It is highly unlikely SETI would discover something from another solar system that wasn't thousands+ years old that would rock the world.

If it was an impact on earth event of some massive rock then yes governments may try to suppress news simply to avoid panic.

What interests me is the zones between solar systems.

So called rogue planets.

We know our planet could not sustain our level \ type of life without its molten core.

There is nothing to say a rogue planet without a sun but with sufficient core heat would not be able to sustain a complex if not advanced form of life)!!

Now that would scare people as we never tend to think of the aliens from just outside the border (of light.).

The other thing is the only government able to block SETI at source would be the American government so the subject of the thread is probably inaccurate. I.E. If the US couldn't block a SETI discovery no other country could simply by social proliferation.

Some times instead of asking "Would" it happen it is better to ask "Why" it might..

So a new question arises:

What possible reasons would the American (or any other) government have to suppress news of a SETI discovery?
1184) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Would the Governments of the World Try to Suppress News of a SETI Discovery? (Message 1951533)
Posted 23 Aug 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
There are mathematical calculations that use a symbol for infinity, but perhaps the best example is the value of Pi. The latest figure is the two-quadrillionth digit

Pi

Infinity


I don't really see PI as infinity.

I like Ramanujan's number theory (calculating potential iterations) but even he doesn't have an end point for PI.. Though he does have a way of surprising us even in death.

Mathematically for me infinity is 0 or 1 (or maybe emotionally 0.9.999r.)

In terms of computing I love the tri-state of une (1) or ziffar (0) or NULL.

NULL is un-assigned or indeterminate.

I think NULL is a better concept for infinity.

.. but then
1185) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1951499)
Posted 23 Aug 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
awesome
1186) Message boards : Cafe SETI : erm... there's this pigeon... (Message 1951452)
Posted 23 Aug 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
............

Which is the point at which she then waddled purposefully towards me - showing her burgeoning girth really quite... largely...

.....


It is lovely to create a connection to a creature.

I got my loft bees (they are sleeping now), a kitchen slug, a ginger cat, a shy hedgehog and the ants that came into into my kitchen to gobble the piece of fruit I dropped on the floor (that was until they turned into flying ants)..

I like my white bummed (frilly panted) bees best.

They say pigeons are rats of the air. I don't think it's true.

Yours looks rather plump.. Good job I am a veggie :)

Joking.

It is good to connect to our animal brothers and sisters.

xx
1187) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1951442)
Posted 22 Aug 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
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1188) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1951435)
Posted 22 Aug 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
release



A Gia-gasm ;o)~

.
1189) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1950463)
Posted 18 Aug 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
mis-cast
1190) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1950449)
Posted 17 Aug 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Subterfuge
1191) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1950417)
Posted 17 Aug 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Subtract
1192) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1948741)
Posted 10 Aug 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
haunting

(Blaise...)
1193) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1948720)
Posted 10 Aug 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
refinement
1194) Message boards : Cafe SETI : congestive heart failure - signs - symptoms - treatments and disscussion. (Message 1948710)
Posted 9 Aug 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
hello everyone ::waves::

still here ______ no flies on me yet _____ lol ______ :-))

Best Wishes
Byron



We know we are home when you give us a wave Byron.

Waving back with both arms and all my legs :)

xXx
1195) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1947203)
Posted 1 Aug 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Uno
1196) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Whatcha Watching? (Message 1947201)
Posted 1 Aug 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
i've been re-watching "Fringe".
i might watch the 1950's version of "War of the Worlds" tomorrow afternoon.


You are are not an observer are you?

Amber Alert....

So many TV series these days end in cancellation...

Fringe went all the way.

Loved Walter and Oliver. Licorice sticks.

To look in the looking glass is easy.

To accept and live with what looks back...

Well that was Fringe.

Good call Phud..
1197) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1946324)
Posted 26 Jul 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Symmetry
1198) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1946319)
Posted 26 Jul 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Opposite
1199) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1946310)
Posted 26 Jul 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Reflection.



(Waving Back To Ya HAL :)
1200) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Going back to work landed me in the hospital (Message 1946274)
Posted 25 Jul 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Children are definitely walking germ factories!!! Good thing they're so darn cute.


Besides the 'Cooties' which I think only effects American kids there are a whole host of other cute nasties.

In my time around our little horrors I've had head lice, scabies, fleas, bacterial lung and stomach infections, and other assorted social illnesses. (I'm quite resilient to viral infections so lucky.)

@Bob DeWoody

It might be that you are just allergic to kids :)~

Or perhaps the working environment isn't suitable and is bringing both you and your immune system down.

A change of jobs or scenery might be the answer.

I can't remeber if you are still working with kids from poorer families or not?

I wonder if doing some private tuition for kids (or adults) might be worth a try.

Or research a subject and offer yourself as a lecturer \ trainer.

Your pneumonia may not of come from the snotty coughing kids.

There is not much you can do about viruses especially amongst the firment of a school full of hosts.

As others will say. Vit. C., ginger, haldi (turmeric), avoid enclosed public areas, turn down the central heating, turn down the AC and always open the windows.

There must be other paths for someone with your qualifications and skills.

What's your best subject?
1201) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1946265)
Posted 25 Jul 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Undulating
1202) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1946226)
Posted 25 Jul 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
tow-rag
1203) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 97 (Message 1945419)
Posted 19 Jul 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Lucozade
1204) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1945336)
Posted 19 Jul 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
nodding-donkey
1205) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Uli (Message 1945319)
Posted 19 Jul 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Have a totally Uli birthday

with lots of extra sprinkles of fun.






(Image borowed from deviantart. )
1206) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1945297)
Posted 19 Jul 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
leeches
1207) Message boards : Cafe SETI : General Call For Help (Message 1945224)
Posted 18 Jul 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
......................

To the Mods. I prefer this thread deleted as soon as somebody picks up the call and is able to speak to Byron on the phone or visit him at home or hospital.
........

...............

i will try to update you all from time to time :: waves:: ____________ :-)

i love you all as ny brothers and sister _____ :-)

byron


Not easy having the police knock on your door ;)

... but we got worried about you.

Glad to see you are doing better than you thought.

I must say I am proud of the community for gathering around you.

I praise Candorchasma and Tut as the warmest of souls especially.


You know Byron you can't get away from us that easily :)


Yes keep us in touch with how you are doing either here on the forum or via PM to your mates or any one of the community.


Byron. This thread was only meant to be short term way of finding out if you were OK. You can keep it if you like or if you prefer it to be deleted please inform the mods.
1208) Message boards : Cafe SETI : General Call For Help (Message 1944625)
Posted 16 Jul 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Another update from Candorchasma:

I’ve called these hospitals...
....


Taking such time and effort is heart warming.

I had an issue some years ago where I needed to find someone in Germany.

The approach was to call "social services" and the "town council" and engage their interest.

They may not give out details but they will if possible locate a person and let you know that they are well.

Anyway as I'm in England and don't have Byrons specific details I have to ask people closer to check this path out:

https://vancouver.ca/news-calendar/health-care.aspx

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/family-social-supports
1209) Message boards : Cafe SETI : General Call For Help (Message 1944479)
Posted 15 Jul 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... I don't know how easy/difficult it is to ring round hospitals in the vicinity of Vancouver to ask ....



I don't know but given his long history on the boards perhaps somebody has a connection.

Just giving a shout out to those who might know or know those who knows.
1210) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Human population growth (Message 1944457)
Posted 15 Jul 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
If I compare my country \ nation to others Britain has a population of well over 60 million. If I look at the US, Pakistan or France et al Britain is overpopulated for it's land size (per unit of land).

Even so we do have areas that there are few people living like vast areas of Scotland.

We also have a low population neighbour (Eire \ Ireland) where we could direct people to go.

I doubt the mamal population will decline to dangerous levels.

Rats follow humans. Dogs and cats are already highly integrated.

If we plan for expansion then bats can live in the belfrays.

Hedgehogs and foxes are already adpting to city life.

I suspect that the strain on natural resources is down to the attitudes of humans and their poilitical and ecconimic leaders and values more than our numbers.

A new phone every year may seem like a little thing but when you look at the industry required to make that phone from start to finish the environmental impact is frightening.

Cotton for clothes and apples or beans for food may require our labour but these take up very little other resources when we do the work ourselves.

For me just to be able to post this text cost far more than I pay for it. Mostly because we have oil and natural resources we exploit and pay for the energy we don't put in ourselves.

(How many industries \ companies are involved in sending a simple internet text - I suggest several hundered or more from the people who mine silicon to those who deliver the PC to your home.)

Humans don't actually need many resources to live a healthy life... We are mamals too.

Our planet already has trillions of creatures on it and their mass needs probably out-wheigh basic human needs.

There is an issue within certain populations in terms of equitibal reproduction (2 kids 2 parents.)

Some of our populations are suffering from polutants.

Plasticate particulates (from the sea in fish or just from drinking a refreshing coke from a plastic bottle) has an effect on male (and female) reproduction. (A form of estrogen that can demasculanise.)

I am not into the apocalyps idea. I suspect we will get to a point we can't sustain and then crumble (or fall into war) and afterwards, just like ants or rats or giraffs build ourselves up again.

Mind you I do fancy the idea that I am the last man on earth after all you daft burgers have blown yourself up.

We do have a difficult future but it wont be solved through science fiction or politics or ecconomics.
1211) Message boards : Cafe SETI : congestive heart failure - signs - symptoms - treatments and disscussion. (Message 1944440)
Posted 15 Jul 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I do not have a family..........



You belong to us.

.
1212) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1944438)
Posted 15 Jul 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
1939

.
1213) Message boards : Cafe SETI : General Call For Help (Message 1944435)
Posted 15 Jul 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Does anybody in the cafe (or do you know someone in a different project) that lives near to Byron.

Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan



His last post leaves us wondering:

thank you every one I am so sick I do not have a family .... I can barely type this post I will call ambliance and go to hospital ..... to live or to die ...... byron


He does have family. He has peopple that respect and care for him for more than a generation. He has us.

Anyway if you are in Canada or know others through the projects that are close to where he is can you ask if they would give him a call or drop in on him.



To the Mods. I prefer this thread deleted as soon as somebody picks up the call and is able to speak to Byron on the phone or visit him at home or hospital.

cRunchy
Pete
1214) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1944372)
Posted 15 Jul 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
threads

.
1215) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Bugs, Insects, and Spiders (Message 1944367)
Posted 15 Jul 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Bee Friendly Now :)

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/vast/hotell-ska-radda-vildbina-fran-bostadsbrist

Man's influence on nature has led to both food and housing shortages for wild bees. Among other things, it is poisonous pesticides and landscaping where the flowers are getting smaller and that old trees like wild bees use as a dwelling are cleaned away........


My loft bees (I'm in a single floor dwelling) were doing so well and getting really fat.

Some of the little creatures grew so fat they had a hard time landing in the hole to their hive.

.. but then suddenly 2 weeks ago the number of bees going out or coming back dropped drammatically.

After speaking to my neighbour about her garden she told me she had started to spray her plants (roses) for black fly.

The same drop in bee activity happened last year. (UK. Start of July.)

I'm wondering if there is a correlation between the average time people spray their plants with insectacide and the drop in bee population?

I live in a large city so most insectacide will be use on ornamentals like flowering plants and especially roses.

For me personally I wouldn't spray roses as they are a great source of food flavouring using the petals.

Shame I liked my bees and we had an understanding. They don't bother me and I let them live up top for free.

The oddest thing (except last years bee circle dance) was this really loud buzzing noise on some of this summers hottest days.

After investigation I found some of the bees clinging to the sides of the entrance hole fanning their wings to create a cooling draft for the hive.

I'm still waiting for honey to trickle down through the ceiling into my kitchen... Mana :)

My urban bees with their fluffy white bums. How cute is that?
1216) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Bugs, Insects, and Spiders (Message 1944362)
Posted 15 Jul 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Those are lovely pictures, Gnu :)


Second this.

Great skill with camera and lens.

Probably tons of patience too.
1217) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1944357)
Posted 15 Jul 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Prison

.
1218) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1943201)
Posted 7 Jul 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
New-Model

.
1219) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What adult really plays "Candy Crush Saga"? (Message 1942414)
Posted 3 Jul 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I see ads for this game all the time on different cable channels but it surprises me that they advertise on the Science Channel.


It isn't just on cell phones.

Facebook has an app for this so you can play it on any compatible browser (windows, linux, et al...)

It's just a game...

Though it is a game that you have to agree to accept their privacy agreement to use.

Most of these app \ phone \ facebook games tend to ask you to agree to share your usage, contacts and conversations at some level.

I've been pinged by people on Facebook (I assume they pinged me and Facebook didn't ping me in their name) to play the game with them.

I ignore any such requests.

It's been around for several years now.

The science channel probably needs the money. It is a commercial venture after all.
1220) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1942406)
Posted 2 Jul 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
cloud
1221) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1941757)
Posted 29 Jun 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
covalency
1222) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1941744)
Posted 29 Jun 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
withstanding
1223) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1941738)
Posted 29 Jun 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
laurel
1224) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1941415)
Posted 27 Jun 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
slow-mo

.
1225) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1941399)
Posted 27 Jun 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Thread-Closed



(HeHe.. Just A Gag :)~ )
1226) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1940973)
Posted 23 Jun 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
obsessor
1227) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1940914)
Posted 23 Jun 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
(re) centered
1228) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1940318)
Posted 19 Jun 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
vibrations
1229) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link Discussion Thread IV (Message 1939603)
Posted 15 Jun 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I did but others got in the way of my post saying seven and eight even though I thought I was doing a @bride' Of 'Chucky' thang..

I tried to keep up.

We all dream of legs and cheese. We're just to embarrassed to express our naughty thoughts.

Creamy knees.
Cheddary toes.
1230) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1939590)
Posted 15 Jun 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
phewie!

(just)
1231) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1939588)
Posted 15 Jun 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Chucky
1232) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1939583)
Posted 15 Jun 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
legs
1233) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1939558)
Posted 15 Jun 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
bridegroom
1234) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1939555)
Posted 15 Jun 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
purity
1235) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1939488)
Posted 14 Jun 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Heresy

.
1236) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Suicide (Message 1939228)
Posted 12 Jun 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
......
i know a lot of people here will call me a coward but it is just who i am.
....


I doubt anyone here will see you as a coward.

To be able to understand ones thoughts and feelings and then know, accept and speak them is heart, soul and intellect.

This is strength without a doubt.
1237) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1939208)
Posted 12 Jun 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
outdated
1238) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Suicide (Message 1939191)
Posted 11 Jun 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I agree. Statistics can be used in all sorts of nefarious ways.

When I was talking about them I mean relative (percentage) based.

For me what you show are raw data of 'individual' deaths that are not relative.

Statistics in the general sense should never be confused with just a raw count of numbers.

Statistically the number of people (percent of population) who commit suicide rises and falls with all sorts of social and economic and political events.

For example when Britain chose to leave the EU the number of suicides rose just enough to be noticed.

The same happens again and again in the US where political and economic changes happen.

Higher rates of suicide tend to happen around changes towards conservative or right wing attitudes (aggressive or bullying mindsets people spoke about?) and economic downturns.

... but still there is a an 'individual' (maybe biological) number of people who commit suicide regardless.

It's hard to know how to help either group :(




There is a difference between a single suicide and the statistics.

Indeed. "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
Look at this statistics from our Nordic countries.

OMG! Why are so many in Greenland suicidal?
Actually you cannot tell because there are only less than 56,000 people there.
And if only one person chose to take it's life in Greeland you get these anomalies.
1239) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1939189)
Posted 11 Jun 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
ferment
1240) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Suicide (Message 1938721)
Posted 8 Jun 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I think whilst local rates and individual suicides might change based on hate or bigotry or bullying across the world (not just in the US) it is unlikely they will change much.

I mean there has been hate and violence for thousands of years and at times so oppressive that very few of us would not have killed ourselves just based on oppressive or difficult lives.

If the statistics change significantly it generally means a socio-economic-political issue.

If in the US there has been a 25% upward change in suicides in 18 so years (about a generation) then perhaps a proportion of US society has been left without proper hope by us older ones and those in power or profit.

I do not see people who kill them selves as bad or going to hell. (I suspect the only people in hell are those that love to hate.)

Families and loved ones hurt.

There is a difference between a single suicide and the statistics.

The statistics let us know as a society we should change and be more.

The individual lets us know how fragile we can be and how much we should put all our effort into cherishing each other.

I'm with kittyman. It's a damned difficult subject when you have lost someone.

.. still we should try because we are worth it...
1241) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1938694)
Posted 8 Jun 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
beloved
1242) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1938661)
Posted 8 Jun 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Artemis
1243) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1938649)
Posted 8 Jun 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
hide
1244) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1938635)
Posted 8 Jun 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
pickled-pepper

(pepper-corn???)
1245) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1938632)
Posted 8 Jun 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
pan
1246) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1938006)
Posted 2 Jun 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
break
1247) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1937988)
Posted 2 Jun 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
walls
1248) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1937685)
Posted 30 May 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
grass
1249) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1937678)
Posted 30 May 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Life
1250) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1937638)
Posted 30 May 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Penzance
1251) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1937635)
Posted 30 May 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
peg-leg
1252) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1937632)
Posted 30 May 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
toes
1253) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1937610)
Posted 29 May 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
4%Us
1254) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1937219)
Posted 26 May 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Social-Ninjas
1255) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1937203)
Posted 26 May 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Passion
1256) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1937172)
Posted 26 May 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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little-piggies

(digits)
1257) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learning foreign language (Message 1936741)
Posted 23 May 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The texture is also different between ice cream and gelato.
Gelato has a bit of sorbet texture.
...


No point in arguing words as we are probably talking about different things even if similar.

I actually love very plain rose flavoured ice-cream with water crystals in it.

Cream is the fatty part of milk that does float to the top of the milk. We may all have different words for it but the fatty part still floats.

Nobody else has to like English but it is often quite a 'literal' language.

... and then it can be more..

It's such a mix after all..

It includes yours.
1258) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learning foreign language (Message 1936740)
Posted 23 May 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


Now you are just teasing us Brits :)
1259) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1936732)
Posted 23 May 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Mayan
1260) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery problem about time (Message 1936729)
Posted 23 May 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
......

this space ship had two people on board going to another planet
which took I think 6 months. When they got there the governor
of this planet had a dinner set up,

He gave them old canned food while he had fresh stake, he said you probably
wondering why I gave you that food ? it's because when you leave and get back
where you started it would be like you never ate and you would be dead.

So you have to eat the old food

..........


I'm not sure time even exists and it depends on relativity and the speed they were traveling.

The question for me is why two people would travel to a place knowing they would be dead when they got back?

Why travel? Why go back?

The thought is that the governor is a carnivor and rather selfish so gave these two space travellers old mildewed baked beans to poisen them and hide his animal eating lust.

To complete the story you need to tell us what the time perspective was from the governor point of view?

Perhaps this an anti-vegetarian space \ time travelling story? :))))~
1261) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learning foreign language (Message 1936360)
Posted 20 May 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I thought it was the Chinese that gave us fried ice puddings first probably several thousand years ago.

As to English and the wordage of Iced Cream.. It's sugar, maybe egg \ gelatine and mostly cream.. Ergo: Iced Cream..

Gelato I suspect means 'Gelled Milk' which could easily be blancmange or Junket.

Glace means 'Ice' as in glacier.

Neither actually state the primaries together:

Iced (highly cooled) Cream... (and some gelling agents, sugar and flavourings..)

In England the street sellers would tout a 'penny lick' back in ye olde 18 hundreds.

A tiny lick of icy Gelato for a penny... with the added extras of those wild social diseases ;/
1262) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Mothers Day May 13th (Message 1936343)
Posted 20 May 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
oops missed the thread.

Mutter. Dich kuscheln.
1263) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1936338)
Posted 19 May 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Elephant
1264) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link Discussion Thread IV (Message 1935990)
Posted 17 May 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I went to a local Catholic high school called St. Xavier.

I feel sorry for you. I went to a Catholic grammar school St Bruno's



I went to a comprehensive boys school.

Just down the road was a similar girls school.

Every chance the girls got they would come and stare through the fence at us playing rugby in our shorts.

State educated teenage girls can be quite scary as a pack...
1265) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1935987)
Posted 17 May 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Euclidean-Girl
1266) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1935968)
Posted 17 May 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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rude-boy
1267) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1935950)
Posted 16 May 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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deposits
1268) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How do you like your caffeine? (Message 1935938)
Posted 16 May 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Like my coffee with evaporated milk.

Layered chocolate and coffee cake with Seville orange jam is something special.

Me and my nephew love chocolate fudge cake with cream on top and hot extra strong fresh coffee poured at the base so it soaks in.
1269) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1934928)
Posted 10 May 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Cromwell
1270) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 96 (Message 1934731)
Posted 9 May 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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codec
1271) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1933956)
Posted 6 May 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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cuddles
1272) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Tesla's signal from Mars in 1901 (Message 1933934)
Posted 6 May 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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No doubt part of the fascination that included the stories of John Carter travelling through a portal to Barsoom.


Love Tesla (he gave us AC and the concept of energy transference) but by 1910 he fell into obscurity and debt. (Shame on us for letting a brilliant mind fall so far.)

No doubt he was a member of our SETI...

The anciant Eygptians had already calculated with some accuracy the distance between earth and the moon and had some concept of electricity.

I think there has alwways been a SETI secret society.

Phewie... We can come out in the open now ;)
1273) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time XI (Message 1933906)
Posted 6 May 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The padding.

Is it to protect the thing held from you

or to protect you from it.

If it allows you to have one hand free

what do you do with that free hand?
1274) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1933875)
Posted 5 May 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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pharaoh
1275) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1932781)
Posted 30 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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lock
1276) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1932640)
Posted 29 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Fresh-Milk

(Midnight Snackaroos..)
1277) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1932569)
Posted 28 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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ergo
1278) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1930663)
Posted 18 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Hoola-Hooping
1279) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1930658)
Posted 18 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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giggles
1280) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1930653)
Posted 18 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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eat


(your) neighbour



(It's a northen thing.. We get so hungry.. eeK)
1281) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Birthday - Just You :) (Message 1930621)
Posted 18 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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I have to wait until the last month of the year. 4th day.



They say that expectation is half of the joy.

I can tell you chasing our little ones with a potential tickle creates an enormous set of giggles as long as we don't chase them too much.

I think having a birthday near xmas or some other holiday is horrid... They just give you things that don't always relate to you.
1282) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Radio host Art Bell dies at 72 (Message 1930597)
Posted 18 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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"Mentally Reset Yourself"

He spoke openly in a general attitude towards the obscure but with a sense of being.

There are no shadows. Just reflections. ;)

Art Bell... You gave the odd ones a chance to speak.

The quickening is relative to gravity and space.

I think Art was already caught by the centre of the universe and shone from his own place..

I thank Art for being unweird amongst the wierd.

Well done.

Travel well.
1283) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1930530)
Posted 17 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Big-D


C-Shore
1284) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time XI (Message 1930464)
Posted 17 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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R2D -1 prototype :)

To me it looks like an overhead projector but the wheels tell me it is only meant to traverse in a linear direction. (Video or photography effects.)

You agreed it was a shop item. Was that shop as in a workshop (mechanical stuff or surgical) or a place to buy apples?

Is it something to do with scanning or 3d or looking for faults?
1285) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1930460)
Posted 17 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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12"

(Imperial, Persian, Mesopotamian. Not British :-)~
1286) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1930447)
Posted 17 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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dog's
1287) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Birthday - Just You :) (Message 1930417)
Posted 17 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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I have one, within the next three weeks. I will be a year older. Actually, on the day, I'll be a day older than I was, the day before. In other words, I'll be a mature woman......still.


No specific date! ... That's womanly teasing :) (I'm told...)

Once a women always a woman but once a man is enough.

x
1288) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Birthday - Just You :) (Message 1930414)
Posted 17 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Every day you see the flowers and not the roots is a good day.



For you a lotus flower.

1289) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Birthday - Just You :) (Message 1930413)
Posted 17 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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I'll be 50 on June 26th.



Keeps us shamelessly updated to your birthday antics Gordon...

I'm wondering what the next half a century will bring us.

Gordon doing base jumping sound fun ;o)
1290) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Birthday - Just You :) (Message 1930412)
Posted 17 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Right before "Mother's Day".


Oh pants we missed it.

But mein Muttertag is in May so maybe you can have two birthdays like the Queen. Like royalty :)
1291) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1930407)
Posted 16 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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boxed
1292) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time XI (Message 1930405)
Posted 16 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Medieval CCTV periscopy thingy?

Does it do lasers?
.
1293) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1929193)
Posted 10 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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aching-knees
1294) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time XI (Message 1929183)
Posted 10 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Sorry can't continue this game. :(
...


It's not an easy game to be the one of..

I was the tool poster once and got so tired crossing the time zones.

x
1295) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time XI (Message 1929168)
Posted 10 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
:(
1296) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1929153)
Posted 10 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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interfaith
1297) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time XI (Message 1929127)
Posted 10 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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A Roman body cleaning tool?

Is it made of bronze?
1298) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1929126)
Posted 10 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Barber
1299) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Going back to work. (Message 1929123)
Posted 9 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I'm starting my third month of substitute teaching and I'm still alive. .....................

......I sincerely doubt that I will accept any more assignments at this particular school.....



You tried but not every situation or job suits everyone.

There are a lot of teachers who stay in unreasonable situations because either they think they should (doing the right thing) or because they need the money.

There are some who have the mindset and ability to work in place where others would not. (My respect to them.)

You go wherever you feel you can do the best job.

There are other ways of explaining the history of China without trying to make your young people feel personally responsible for the last 50 years of China's history as a growing capitalist society.

Just teach them European industrialization and then move on to talking about a world that wants what we have and then about the issues our world are facing. (Step by step each country follows.)

As to the other problems. It sounds like you have been having a real hard time with some disenfranchised young people.

I don't care what anybody says. Educating young people is a political task.

For me it's not about teaching young people 'my politics'..

It is about politicizing them.

It's about helping them to become part of our world.

To become interested in being a citizen with skills even if they differ from me or you.

Sounds like you are stressed and you've had a hard time.

What's the team like around you?

Are they strong and supportive?

xxx
1300) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Birthday - Just You :) (Message 1927909)
Posted 3 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
If a birthday is coming up..

Be shameless and let us know so we can celebrate.
1301) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1927889)
Posted 3 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Gentlemen

(Two)
1302) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Team Birthdays - TFFE (Message 1927882)
Posted 3 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Oops. My fault.

I should have mentioned.

"The Final Front Ear" (TFFE) has just had it's 15th birthday.

We are just teens :)

We love enormous cakes, exploding balloons, hula hooping clowns, cups of tea and anything that goes 'ooh ahh' in the night..

Otherwise we are just a team.
1303) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1927878)
Posted 3 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Halva
1304) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Fond Farewell reprised (Message 1927864)
Posted 3 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
We are talking about Chris S and his thread that is now closed.

Who knows where the best of us goes.

I never believed in finding aliens in that magical, obscure, cultural way we tend to see them.

I do belive in aspiring though (even if it is insane to do so.)........

Where ever you go Chris S always know you are part of us :)

Personally I prefer you to be here as the place just isn't the same without you around.


cRunchy
Pete
xxx
1305) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1927853)
Posted 2 Apr 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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summon
1306) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1927285)
Posted 30 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Gattaca
1307) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1927244)
Posted 30 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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room
1308) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1927233)
Posted 30 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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mouldly

(Stargate you're such a scruffy.. Hehe.. My sleeves get all stiff too.. Trebley so around the little ones.. ) :)
1309) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1927208)
Posted 30 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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achoo...
1310) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1927177)
Posted 29 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Yemen
1311) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1927169)
Posted 29 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Tea
1312) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1927050)
Posted 29 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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lovers
♥♥♥ x
1313) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1926961)
Posted 28 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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centrifugal
1314) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1926014)
Posted 23 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Mr Claus'

(The Real One..)
1315) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1926000)
Posted 23 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Rasputin :)~
1316) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1925991)
Posted 23 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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Coffin
1317) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1925940)
Posted 23 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Metal

(Rock From Middle Earth.) :)
1318) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1925889)
Posted 22 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
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kangaroo

(a joey's delight)
1319) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1925130)
Posted 18 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Humorous Dic(k)s...

... (Yes. Avoid the naughtiness if you can :) )
1320) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link Discussion Thread IV (Message 1923629)
Posted 9 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SDF-1


betwix
1321) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1923628)
Posted 9 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
connective
1322) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1923599)
Posted 9 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Legendary


'Admiral-Gloval'
1323) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1923548)
Posted 9 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Grendel
1324) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1923472)
Posted 8 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Darn it Grant... You are such a tease :)

I think that red cap has led us all to think about inlet valves for gasses or fluids!

You say nay to gas or fluid or electrical operations... so...

Does the red cap protect something sensitive?

Is it a manual (kinetic) thing only?

Anything to do with industrial machines?
1325) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1923434)
Posted 8 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Something to do with "models" (eg: Model planes, boats etc)?
1326) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1923423)
Posted 8 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Does it control speed?

Does it have gears or worm drive inside?
1327) Message boards : Cafe SETI : British Royal Marriages (Message 1923422)
Posted 8 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.........

Meanwhile, back to the original intention of the thread, what is the interest in America for prince Harry's wedding to Megan?.....




I just wonder American interest in the royal family or British historic family connections relates to the way that we as British sometimes speak about Americans as our "cousins overseas".

Talking to my father about his interest building our family tree (near a thousand years now.) He has remarked how American researchers often take his model of the family tree and hang theirs on even if it is only by a thin thread.

Everyone wants to have a history and feel their life has a before.

I don't know if Americans per-ce love royalty. I suspect the American media love any new event that fill their pages and from that we get the sense that Americans are royal mad.

250 million or so in America. I suspect most are too busy living daily to make a big deal of the Royals....
1328) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1923414)
Posted 8 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
pneumatic?
1329) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 95 (Message 1923412)
Posted 8 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
People-Eater
1330) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1923064)
Posted 6 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Cheese, yogurt or bacterial fermenter?

Or something to grow crystals in?


Does the key hole at the side have significance in it's usage?
1331) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dance (Message 1923063)
Posted 6 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
He.he Gord..

If I had robot legs I would strut my funky stuff till me nuts n bolts dropped off.

1332) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1923037)
Posted 5 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Questions. Questions. Make us mad.

Does it have any mechanism, pipes or electrical bits inside the pan?

Does it rely on an external power source? (Electricity or gas or fairie dust)

Gas production?
1333) Message boards : Cafe SETI : British Royal Marriages (Message 1923027)
Posted 5 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
A different perspective.. Forgive me :)

Who is Prince Harry and who is Megan?

I haven't heard a single neighbour talk about this wedding or the royals.

I live in a royal borough and still....

Perhaps they are all whispering behind the net curtains and too excited to share?

I remember the 'Silver Jubilee' (1977) and whole streets turning out with long lines of tables, food and games in our working class areas.

After 1979 (Thatcher period) the whole royal \ British culture thing went to pot with deaths, scandals and anus horribulus.... then nothingness...

I'm a Brit and I think our royal family are the wealthiest clan on social security..

Yet I'm also a believer.

I hope Harry and Megan find happiness. (Who ever they are :) )
1334) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1923010)
Posted 5 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
This is an interesting one.

It has a key hole or lock lower down which suggests 'others' are not allowed to interfere with it.

Dehydrating poo \ (or samples)?

OR

A machine to make shrunken heads from politicians?... I'm not sure how much more you could possibly shrink them though!
1335) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1923002)
Posted 5 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Fishy-Kiss
1336) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1921844)
Posted 1 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Is it medical in use?
1337) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1921834)
Posted 1 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Gaulish
1338) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Recipes and Food II (Message 1921833)
Posted 1 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Something basic:

Bread and butter pudding.

    Buttered Bread. (Margarine if Vegan)
    Sprinkles of sugar and sultanas in between slices.
    Milk & Eggs (Soy Milk & Cornflour if Vegan)
    A pinch of Nutmeg and sugar on top.

    Bake for 30 mins or so till brown on top and firm within.

    (Serve with cold or warm custard or some single cream.)




If that doesn't satisfy then perhaps a massage of butter, sprinkles and nutmeg might excite your guests?

1339) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1921805)
Posted 1 Mar 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Most of the equipment is general...

.. but the clamp looking thing (more of a tool to clamp and extrude\expose) does make me think StarGate is on the right path?

Is it something used to expose and treat or chop bits off?

Otherwise ear or body piercing?
1340) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1921778)
Posted 28 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Le-Chariot
1341) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1921488)
Posted 27 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
goats


 _))
> *\     _~
`;'\\__-' \_
   | )  _ \ \
  / / ``   w w
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1342) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Alien Life Form (Message 1920765)
Posted 23 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Good to see a new face. Welcome to SETI.


(Be nice to hear your sounds. Soundcloud doesn't work for me <Thier javascript kills my browser.> What about putting something up on youtube or self hosting a smaller downloadable file?)
1343) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1920744)
Posted 23 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
stinky-socks
1344) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1920723)
Posted 23 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Belly button fluff vacuum?

Or something that sucks up mineral dust? (Fairy dust maybe?)
1345) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1920719)
Posted 23 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Does it have anything to 'rear ends'??
1346) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1920715)
Posted 23 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
self

3:-)~
1347) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1920428)
Posted 22 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
"Jesus nut" torque wrench?


A thing to torture Christian zealots with? I'm getting to see a new side of people here :)


A flangelator doobry for wheels to fit a tire or run on a rail?
1348) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1920422)
Posted 22 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
celttooth....

Lol. Wish that was the case. He went to his just reward after a long illness.


Last chat I had with him was around 2015. Didn't remember what happened to him.

A lovely soul and member. Good to talk to.
1349) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1920418)
Posted 22 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I miss that guy, Caltooth


If you meant 'celttooth' check out those racoon lovers. They might have taken him captive :)
1350) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1920407)
Posted 22 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Voice


(Beloved Soul)
1351) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1920406)
Posted 22 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Something related to model airplane flying?
1352) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1920405)
Posted 22 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
As I value the remaining hair I have left, I'm not even trying to guess this one!

:P~


They say rubbing vegemite (marmite) into the scalp does wonders ;)
1353) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1920394)
Posted 22 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Has an internal rod (or air) (in that long bit) that reacts (expands \ contracts) to heat or movement that causes movement in the upper (round bit) dial?
1354) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1920377)
Posted 22 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Dakotan
1355) Message boards : Cafe SETI : If you are a mamal post here. (Message 1920365)
Posted 22 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I already have weird dreams. This will surely be one.


They say when you can't sleep you should try counting sheep.

Counting Wiggo-roos though is probably a strange alternative therapy ;)

(Sorry Wiggo :)~ Just Playing.)
1356) Message boards : Cafe SETI : If you are a mamal post here. (Message 1920362)
Posted 22 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Wouldn't it be wild if a DNA test told you you were 100% native Australian. :)

I think it would be wilder if the DNA test revealed that Wiggo is a marsupial!!!


Could you imagine little Wiggo-roos hopping and bouncing all over the place.

That would be wild ;/
1357) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1920361)
Posted 22 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Has gears inside?

Have to say yes.


Mm. My original thinking was about barometer or pressure gauge which don't normally have gears inside.

Does it cause change of direction?
1358) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The continuing of life's adventures of the kittyman. (Message 1920350)
Posted 22 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Just a little note......
I have set April 21st as my date for stopping smoking forever.
That is a special date for me, as that is the date last year that I quit drinking.





You are an inspiration.

xx
1359) Message boards : Cafe SETI : If you are a mamal post here. (Message 1920342)
Posted 22 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I've got a doctors appointment in 2 weeks so I'll get a DNA test done while I'm there. ;-)

Cheers.


Wouldn't it be wild if a DNA test told you you were 100% native Australian. :)
1360) Message boards : Cafe SETI : If you are a mamal post here. (Message 1920341)
Posted 21 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Nope http://www.mamal.com/


I've got squirrels living in my loft.

A local business chopped down their habitat to make a car park :(

They are either chasing each other and squeaking loads or stomping about.

They sound like they are wearing mini metal boots.
1361) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1920332)
Posted 21 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Has gears inside?

I'm a little disturbed as many of the items you guys present look like things the greys would probe us with :(
1362) Message boards : Cafe SETI : If you are a mamal post here. (Message 1920093)
Posted 20 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Are trolls mammals?


We Europeans have at least 4% Neanderthal in us.

It is possible on the periphery of Europe and the Norse world in particular that Neanderthals existed up until a few thousand years ago (well within cultural memory or mythology.)

They probably eeked out an existence at the edges, agitated and raided sapien homesteads. (Thus 'Trolls'.)

.. but yes... if you have a European background you are most likely 4% troll as well as 100% mammal as a human ;) (That is assuming you are not a European lizard person.)

enjoy...
1363) Message boards : Cafe SETI : If you are a mamal post here. (Message 1920088)
Posted 20 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Whether by nature, godly creation or amazing chance I too am a member of the club.

I wonder what it would be like if dinosaurs hadn't died out and we were more like them.

What if pigeons had evolved or been the favoured of god?

If only I had a pair of wings, claws, a beak and the ability to exist in space...

Perhaps in the next life hey. :)

They say insects like cockroaches are the most successful creatures (resilient to environmental change) but I think the most adaptable (to environment) (and most self vulnerable) are us.

Proud to be a mammalian.

For now :)
1364) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1920085)
Posted 20 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
....."Hint" Using one of these makes gaining access much easier!



I knew it...

A tool aliens use to slip in around our windows so they can shrink our heads! :(
1365) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1920074)
Posted 20 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Stretching sinews or making things tighter?
1366) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1920049)
Posted 20 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Does it have anything to do with a musical instrument?

Or is it a tool used by evil aliens to experiment on us humanoids? :(
1367) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1919979)
Posted 19 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I am two tools in one, What am I?]


Given the cuts in the handle are not linear and the head has two different curves to them I am suspecting something non linear but logarithmic.

I am sort of wondering if it is either an organic tool or something used to help regulate a thing?

Either that or it is a mini Thor's hammer?
1368) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1919972)
Posted 19 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
aero
1369) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1919198)
Posted 16 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
brew
1370) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1919156)
Posted 16 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
chattering
1371) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1919118)
Posted 16 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
buddha
1372) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1919112)
Posted 16 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
imperialist :)
1373) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1919104)
Posted 15 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
ruler
1374) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1919048)
Posted 15 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Heroic
1375) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1918643)
Posted 13 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
hunting

       \`\ /`/
        \ V /               
        /. .\       
       =\ T /=                  
        / ^ \     
     {}/\\ //\
     __\ " " /__           
    (____/^\____)
1376) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1918602)
Posted 13 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Incisors
1377) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1917812)
Posted 9 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Weevils

(The smaller of both...)
1378) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1917758)
Posted 8 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
tape
1379) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1917661)
Posted 8 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
ooo... That looks like the perfect tool to untangle my young lady's hair?
1380) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1917659)
Posted 8 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Women's-Bits

and just to be fair.. not men's floppy or outy weirding bits >:)~
1381) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1917612)
Posted 8 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Butter or cheese thingy-me-jig?
1382) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Going back to work. (Message 1917569)
Posted 8 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Hey Bob.

I spent a lot of time educating young people in various situations (education \ community services and outreach and detached)...

I also have my issues.

I can tell you if you don't put your personal experience up front you will share it softly and the kids will feel it.

Young people experience a less certain life and disabled people often experience a more fragile life..

I think that similarity between a less certain and more fragile life can be a great way to connect.

Don't let your managers put you in situations you are not comfortable with.

Your age or experience will mean nothing to young people.

Your way of being will win their hearts.

Have fun with your students. Tease them gently into the subject and trusting you.

xx
1383) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1917557)
Posted 8 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Aluminium

(Alzheimer's :( )
1384) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1917554)
Posted 8 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Personal Sausage Maker.

(The peg is to reduce spillage?)
1385) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1917295)
Posted 6 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
dis-traction
1386) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1917265)
Posted 6 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Levitation

__\|/___
1387) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1916243)
Posted 1 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I have never seen the item before either, I stumbled on the pic somehow !


OK it took me a bit of time and I had to work backwards but for anyone else outside of America a "Moon Clip" is a tool or accoutrement used with pistols (hand guns.)

As a non-American (or a place where carrying balistic weapons is abnormal) it wouldn't have even been in my cultural thought pattern to have imagined the answer.

I'm still wondering why they are called 'moon' clips?
1388) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1916237)
Posted 1 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Remooner Moon Clip Loading Tool for 6 Shot Full Moon Clips


I (and possibly all other creatures on the planet) have absolutely no idea of what that means ;/

I suspect you are talking about the hidden dark and esoteric arts or fishing or perhaps some weird Free Mason's tool for raising underpants every two months?

What is it? (In plain language please..) :)
1389) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1916236)
Posted 1 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
circular
1390) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1916214)
Posted 1 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
unsure
1391) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1916200)
Posted 1 Feb 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Some part of a machine that spawns nets or kinky stockings :)?
1392) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1916165)
Posted 31 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
heavens
1393) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1916156)
Posted 31 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
This is an oddity from 1600+ years ago.

I have told someone else on the forum that doesn't normally post to the thread my thought so it's all fair.


Yes, I know the answer? Who will be the highest bidder?!!! ;-)

Edit: Well it looks as though the whole thing has played out before I even found out about it.
.......


Thanks Suzie-Q.. I was unsure anyone would get it but they did.

You are a star.

cRunchy
1394) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1916155)
Posted 31 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Looks like something that expands and either grips or opens a circular opening. (Ouch :( )

It's not a ringed doughnut expander \ fluffer is it?
1395) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1915902)
Posted 30 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Just seen a video on it, a form of crochet, different size holes for size of fingers.

Or toes lol



OK I'm going to give it to you as I haven't watched any videos but thought it was a similar thing.

My suggestion \ idea was: Remember those wooden dollies (tubes) with pins at the top where you (or your sisters) put wool or thread through and by swapping the thread from pin to pin wove a sort of rope.

As a kid my granny did this with me using a wooden cotton real with 5 or 7 panel pins tacked around the edges.

I suspected a sort of rope \ twine thin woven hose type thing maker.

I never thought of woven Roman toe gloves....

.... but as you were the last presenter, if you don't mind, I would like to offer a PM to Admiral for "Metal K'NEX piece" as it was an artsy idea :)
1396) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1915899)
Posted 30 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
H'mmmm to make woollen gloves/mittens?


Ooo.. Getting closer to my thought.

Explain why you think that...
1397) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1915897)
Posted 30 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
........

Was it used to confuse(d) future archaeologist.


Only if you are from the future...

If you are don't tell me as I wouldn't like to mess up the timeline.
1398) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1915895)
Posted 30 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Metal K'NEX piece.


Not my everyday practical thought but a creative idea :)
1399) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1915888)
Posted 30 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
A Roman dodecahedron?


Yes it is. .. but what was it's use?
1400) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1915879)
Posted 30 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
This is an oddity from 1600+ years ago.

No academic answer to it's use so I have an everyday practical suggestion. Nearest to my idea (or the most fantastical) wins.



I have told someone else on the forum that doesn't normally post to the thread my thought so it's all fair.
1401) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1915868)
Posted 30 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Leather cutter \ scorer
1402) Message boards : Cafe SETI : anyone want to walk a dog? (Message 1915827)
Posted 29 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I don't mind dog walking.

How long is the lead and can the dog swim? :)

You could always get one of those drones or a heavy radio controlled cars with a networked camera and attach a lead to that!

They say ginger, lemon and a little tipple is good for the flu.

I'm sure your dog will understand you're not well.

xx
1403) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1915823)
Posted 29 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
solicit
1404) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1915012)
Posted 25 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
toe nail shaver
1405) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give us a Caption - number 68 (Message 1914993)
Posted 25 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
they this one


Anus-Applus...
1406) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1914963)
Posted 24 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
umbra-libra
1407) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rhythm (Message 1913888)
Posted 19 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Some deep bass olde lego style :)
1408) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rhythm (Message 1913881)
Posted 19 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Maybe cRunchy has not recovered from the rhythmic hardbass of Tri Poloski yet...


Oops Pants guys.. I messed up. Sorry. :)..

It's true Tri Poloski boy style makes your brain fluffy and your bits go numb .. (I blame moomin for spreading the word.. :o)~ )

You already know it. Turn your speakers up and go boogie...

The link was................

The thread is kind of about the beat. You choose.
1409) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rhythm (Message 1913802)
Posted 18 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I give you this young lady because I like the song and she does it with intent. (.. and she grows. See her later vids.)

The beat you like.

Any Rhythm That Rocks Your Boat?
1410) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1913798)
Posted 18 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
zombies
1411) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1913694)
Posted 18 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
vox (voice).
1412) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dance (Message 1913674)
Posted 18 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.............
Oh. Here are the Russian girls with ТРИ ПОЛОСКИ.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE8X6492j48
Better?



Prefer the girls \ ladies.

They put their energy into working together.

The Lads dance like thugs ;)

Things change then they are the same.

Thanks moomin I now have the sound of 'Tripoloski' stuck in my head.. I was humming it down to my local shop even. ;/
1413) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1913673)
Posted 18 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Ghana
1414) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP John Young. (Message 1912453)
Posted 12 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
To travel, throw or give oneself into the unknown.

Valued is such a one.

Carries our hopes and dreams.

John Young. Travel well.

.
1415) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dance (Message 1912445)
Posted 12 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
From pre-Soviet dancing to post-Soviet dancing.
ТРИ ПОЛОСКИ. (Three stripes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiFBgtgUtfw

It's a kind of a drunkard gnome's imaginary parkour :(


Wonder why only males are dancing in Russia...

Probably because like every where else in the world the young females prefer a less idiotic mate.

Boys will be boys I guess.

(They are better off with a little guidance though.)

Although I think I saw a dance move or two that I could use..

hehe...
1416) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1911974)
Posted 9 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Virtue
1417) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1911970)
Posted 9 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Paradise
1418) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1911964)
Posted 9 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Shillelagh
1419) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1910738)
Posted 5 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
cursive

.
1420) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Yesteryear (Message 1910696)
Posted 4 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Perhaps my post needs some explanation.
Your pic of Marlene Dietricht is linked to a totally different singer.
It's Lale Andersen who sings "Lili Marleen" from 1939.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh4qe0Hp6RU
But it was also sung by Marlene Dietricht, Vera Lynn and many others. [/quote]

If you can update wiki please let them know.


As for Birgit Nilsson:)
Yes. Her character as Brünnhilde in the Valkyrian by Richard Wagner was her favorite role.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birgit_Nilsson
Birgit Nilsson sings Brunnhilde's Immolation Scene (end)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRj9f3PCe0M

BTW. What is Boudicar?


Boudicar (Boodicar \ Boudicea or whatever) was the Icenian woman (North East England \ Briton) local ruller that stood against the Romans. Heroin but overwhelmed.
1421) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Yesteryear (Message 1910683)
Posted 4 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Yesteryear,
Zarah Leander meets Marlene Dietrich
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYi5fhZkEk8
Zarah Leander and Birgit Nilsson in an incredible and amazing duet.
"I'm Prima Donna, Absoluta! Do you want to see a star, look at me! "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6fb36z5upc


Singing

Yes. To sing or speak so is worth everything. I love the deep reverberating voice.

However Zarah Leander and her fellows are really cheesy in movies. :(


Birgit Nilsson



Her photo makes me think of Boudicar...
1422) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Yesteryear (Message 1910654)
Posted 4 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Ella

1423) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Grant!!!!! (Message 1910619)
Posted 4 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Happy Birthday.

You do realise everyone on the forum gets a piece of cake?

You best start running now. The world is big and we love cake :)

Have a good year Grant. x
1424) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Yesteryear (Message 1910602)
Posted 4 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Before my time but as a dot I got hear her songs.



Such a creature...
1425) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Yesteryear (Message 1910597)
Posted 4 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Any time from when you were younger than now to a time in the past you like or was important to you

Wax lyrical. :)
1426) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seasonaly Salient.... (Message 1910340)
Posted 3 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Crunchy - I put them in contact with the "right people", it's early days and I guess that the first actual meeting won't happen until everyone gets back to work this week. .........


I'm glad you are there to help this person.

If the person is a member of this forum then I say enough has been said.

Let us know if well being is achieved.
1427) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1910331)
Posted 3 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
stargate
1428) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1910222)
Posted 3 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
receiver
1429) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seasonaly Salient.... (Message 1910214)
Posted 3 Jan 2018 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Rob.

Sounds like your friend needs to writie or speak to everyone he is in debt with and state he is in 'escalating debt' and request a freeze on any interest and agree an affordable repayment plan.

Also sounds like he needs to surrender all his cards except for his banks main 'debit' card.

Perhaps also a good idea would be to sit down with his partner and place his income in a centeral pot so she can also have control on the household spending. (This might be a key issue?)

Going to court may not be a bad idea as interest is likely to be frozen and a repayment schedule and amount set. The court can not force repayment that will leave him or his partner without the ability to pay for their basic needs.

Escalating debt is an evil thing. It is either caused by our continued ignoring of our situation or our carelesness or because we tipped the balance and interest and costs from lenders have ovetaken our ability to repay.

We can not always predict life \ income changes but if we live within our means as best as we can we can sort out the differences.

When in debt that you can not guarantee to pay back surrenderring to your situation and being honest is oft the best path.

Dump any and all credit cards (keep your debit cards) and be honest with your lenders.

... And get any interest frozen (stoped) and propose a basic repayment amount per month.

Rob. It sounds like your mate has a good friend in you.

Debt is destructive. Usury is anti-social.

Hope your mate works this out.
1430) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1909376)
Posted 29 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Insults,
1431) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1909345)
Posted 28 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
coal
1432) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New Year's Resolutions. - Free Yourself. (Message 1909342)
Posted 28 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Well, in 2017 I escaped my addiction to alcohol. Best thing I did in 40 years.
Tried ditching the cigs, but fell back.
So, for 2018, I am gonna give the smoke sticks the final heave-ho.

Meow.


40 years alcohol. That's hard.

Smoking is an issue for our health but oft doesn't create issues or harm in our general mindset (as long as we feed it) even though nicotine is uber addictive.

(I do suspect however that drivers needing a fag or who just had a drag might not be compus mentus?)

40 years is half a life times worth of struggle.

I see the way the forum... the Agora gives you space..

You are worth it.

Don't overload yourself trying to give up everything...

Next you will be telling us you want to become a veggie like me.. ;).



Proud to know you Sir.
1433) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1909300)
Posted 28 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
my

hehe
1434) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New Year's Resolutions. - Free Yourself. (Message 1909228)
Posted 28 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Put them in now before you get too drunk, pressured, believing or insane and make a fool of yourselves.

New Year's Resolutions are there to let us know how weak we are.

I would like to give up smoking.. but I have smoked since I was a feotus .. I won't be giving up any time soon however many times I told myself I would.

Be shamelessly Anti-Resolutionary and free yourself :)

What resolution will you make that you know you probably won't keep?
1435) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1909202)
Posted 28 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Banned



(I love the taste of real root beer.. even if it causes cancer and my liver to explode.. Hey... What doesn't these days!)
1436) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Photographs by Setizens 2 - Originals only - any subject (Message 1907482)
Posted 16 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

What's an apple and dog burger?


Isn't that what cats's dream of?

Mc Dog and apple sauce?

Of course if you are an Admiral you will be dreaming of Mc Cat and Wevil Cherrish..

The rest of us only have Mc Rat and Rat sauce to look forward to.


No rats? What the hell do you eat then?
1437) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dance (Message 1907479)
Posted 16 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Gopniks dancing in a train:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3hL0IEKbq4



It was a bit short for us to dance to moomin but yes..

I wish our trains had a sense of funk ;o))
1438) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dance (Message 1907448)
Posted 16 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... the universe dances around us... even if we don't notice...

So poetic!


Hey we fall and have a moment to be....

.
1439) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What you hoped for at Xmas Vs what you got? (Message 1907446)
Posted 16 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I hope you realise Chris that you Zoom and Wiggo are all being too eager.

I promised myself I would never agree with my sisters that men are naughty boys.

I'm just going to give you boys something to keep you busy...

Dance

A question: If you had seven pieces of chocolate and Angela ate the best piece of chocolate how many Angelas would you be left with?

.
1440) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dance (Message 1907434)
Posted 16 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
OK I'm messy.

Some dances are done before we even used our legs and sometimes our legs did the right thing before our brains did.. :)

... and sometimes it matters not what we think of feel.. the universe dances around us... even if we don't notice...
1441) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas... it's complicated (Message 1907412)
Posted 16 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Uli..

You are family so no couches here for you. :)

(I have a shed outside :o))))~

We might put you in the basement on the treadmill until you have ground your share of wheat :o)

I might have to dig out the basement first though :/

No. No. ... There is a bed and your own room...

Just message the old gang and see if they are around when you would like to come.

You don't need to discuss your travels with me on the forum.

I will wait for you to let me know when via email \ txt \ phone or which ever way.

xx
1442) Message boards : Politics : The Dismantling Of British Services \ Structures \ Values: (Message 1907406)
Posted 16 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Others may have a different experience. I doubt that any GP under the age of 40 will put their wealth at risk to treat you hands on?

Just my wife's and my medical experiences with GP's and other Doctors under the age of 40.

You are correct that they are only the voice of computers. After many experiences with these 'Doctors'. We will only go to 55+. With 60+ being our preference.


I don't disregard the faith or desire of younger doctors but there is a certain form of pressure when the state health service offers little certainty.
1443) Message boards : Politics : The Dismantling Of British Services \ Structures \ Values: (Message 1907405)
Posted 16 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
NHS choices. Your health, your choices:)
https://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/AboutNHSservices/doctors/Pages/NHSGPs.aspx


I know...

Problem is that these things are not treated as law as they were once so of little value and the GPs know that.

At some point I wonder if they will be asked if they have patients are 'empty eaters'... I know a bad thing to say but if not asked by the state doctors will probably be asked by private insurance companies and I am a little certain a few doctors and GPs may answer.


Maybe?
1444) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas... it's complicated (Message 1907400)
Posted 16 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
First of Mr cRunchy, I loved your cooking. I also know he has no problems with us carnivores.

As to the meal, the plan is to BBQ a roulade, baked potato, cheesy broccoli and apple pie. That is planned for 24th. The next day will be all the traditional US stuff.
Turkey, gravy stretched with Knorr seasoning mix, cranberries out of a can, Joline's Jello salad, mashed potatoes real mashed P with cream and lot's of real butters , green bean casserole and left over pie with lot's of whip cream out of a can.


You are all going to have lovely food over this Christmas..

Uli I have a really large stack of cooked pears, smoked cheese and cashew nut butter pancakes when you are ready...

Or just some oven warmed bread, butter and coffee..

Stretched gravy. That sounds like matrix mid air magic thing..

Green bean casserole and left over pie with lot's of whip cream.

Ohh my god...

Salivating...
1445) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Photographs by Setizens 2 - Originals only - any subject (Message 1907395)
Posted 16 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Then why has My food supply not gone down when I am not eating?

I await your answer...


Eat something or just throw it away or invite some mice....

It's not my duty to tell your cat and you to stop stocking up on apple and dog burgers...


I suspect the best solution for you and your cat is to find some really active mice or fat rats...

In both ways it will keep you both busy and give you lots of protein...


..
1446) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Photographs by Setizens 2 - Originals only - any subject (Message 1907393)
Posted 16 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Cats and dogs are not capable of that, one needs an opposable thumb to cook, and strength.


That is what they would have you believe...

You did say "it's just that so far, no guys have said anything." relative to your cat..

As a guy I'm telling you your feline probably has a few more tricks up her sleeve than you actually notice..

... and I am fairly sure she will say typical man... I can get away with anything!

Cats are pretenders and have no choice but to be honest.. they are weirding ones.. ;/
1447) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dance (Message 1907378)
Posted 16 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Not a Christian Thing. Not A Muslim Thing. Nor Hindu. Not Your Way Of Being You Or Political.

Not Even A Dance..

.. but sounds that build until perhaps dance is no longer needed or understood..

..
1448) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Photographs by Setizens 2 - Originals only - any subject (Message 1907371)
Posted 16 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
What was on the plate was My breakfast, eggs and sausage, not Hers, She gets fed cat food, what She licks here won't hurt Her.



I am sure you ate your breakfast... But when you were not watching she went off and made herself some delicious pancakes, cat fodder and cream.. Munched em all down and left a plate for you smart and nice...

After all what you lick won't hurt you either too :)

You have a strong familiar there.

Cat power :)

..Boys are such scaredy cats...
1449) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas... it's complicated (Message 1907354)
Posted 16 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Celebrating Carlos's girlfiend from over in the 'word thread' ... Joni...

Thank you for reminding me of a soul and a sound.
1450) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1907349)
Posted 16 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Joni


Lucky
1451) Message boards : Politics : The Dismantling Of British Services \ Structures \ Values: (Message 1907345)
Posted 16 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I always thought that general practitioners (GPs) are doctors.
Well, that maybe changed as well.



A GP is a general practitioner.. I don't know what is like where you are but in the UK generally no GP will take your blood or do anything that is not topical

Here I sometimes think they are called General Privateers..

Others may have a different experience. I doubt that any GP under the age of 40 will put their wealth at risk to treat you hands on?

Anyone? UK people?
1452) Message boards : Politics : The Dismantling Of British Services \ Structures \ Values: (Message 1907340)
Posted 16 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Bureaucracy doesn't remove that kind of money from taxpayers.
But it cost a lot.
For instance our national health service that to me looks like there are more administrators than doctors and nurses.
If you want to save money, that administrators are supposed to do, then let most of them work with patients instead of computers.


It does cost a lot but those payments were never sent to bureaucracy (which actually means back into the civil system.)

Many managers generally are now nay-sayers who tell us there is no money.

In the UK GPs and doctors are themselves business partners and mostly prescribers rather than being active doctors or healers.

They look at the computer screen for the latest cheapest medication they can prescribe and DARE you ASK them to actually do a simplistic thing.. They just send you off to a nurse who has now become the doctors fall guy \ girl.. :(...

I think I can probably use ethicon and stitch up a wound better than any of the GPs I know.

In the UK the national health service is being sold off to an american style service...

It will happen in Europe too..

It is a shame as the american system leaves quite a good percentage of it's people without either primary care or care with social value.


I would like something better from my society...
1453) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas... it's complicated (Message 1907335)
Posted 16 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
If you are going to be alone this Christmas day what will you eat for your main meal?

In many ways it is complicate, yet simple but probably never easy being alone at Xmas?

.
1454) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1907323)
Posted 15 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
GirlFiend?

:)~
1455) Message boards : Politics : The Dismantling Of British Services \ Structures \ Values: (Message 1907314)
Posted 15 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


In the pockets of those who implemented these programs and/or used to increase the power of the Ruling Class over The People. By promising what cannot be afforded.

No different anywhere else in the world. Including my country.

So where is the money? was a rhetorical question.
We all know where the money went.
Mishandling of public means en masse.
Bureaucracy en masse.
No real control where and to what purpose money are spent.

Sigh...
No wonder that so many are trying to avoid paying taxes.


Personally I think our meisters keep telling us how good a job they are doing reducing public spending and all parts of our wealth has been misspent by the state in the past.

I think it has gone into the hands of wealthy and self serving peoples pockets.

They wish us to think it was misspent but for the last 20 odd years the people who have been misspending our communities wealth are those who tell us they never misspent and it is social society that misspends..

I am a little confused. There is no money in the Bureaucracy... It is now in private hands who now own the water you drink.

There was never any mishandling of public funds.. Back in 1979+ in the UK Thatcher didn't mishandle the water, electricity or gas... She handled it quite well and sold it off with the pretense Brit's could buy into the dream....

I suspect you will find one in less that ten thousand Brits who actually made any money on that charade...

We were sent on a fools errand to conquer the world yet again and came back with next to nothing and then discovered we had sold off our birth right.

Bureaucracy is just an excuse to get us to hate the wrong people.

No doubt some are rich just... but...

Who in your bureaucracy actually has the billions or trillions of dollars removed from your society?

And if it is all down to bureaucracy . Click your fingers apply your law and hey presto it is back in the system...

The wealth has been stolen and we were duped...
1456) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Photographs by Setizens 2 - Originals only - any subject (Message 1907305)
Posted 15 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
This pic is taken by Me,....

For some reason I get lots of Positive remarks and lots of likes too, the manager here likes Grace too, and the people doing this?

All women, go figure. Not that I mind of course, nor would I limit to just Women, it's just that so far, no guys have said anything.



Obviously having such a rather wicked and scarily intense cat has frightened off all the males...

This animal owns you so much it ate your lunch and even licked the plate clean and then washed the fork and put it back on the plate just to spook you... (or show you it's absolute devotion.)

I would suggest the women in your life look out.

Nobody will ever know you like this cat does and nobody will ever have the chance to know you whilst it has claws...

What ever you do "given I am male" just don't give it my address as I fear for my well being...
1457) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1907301)
Posted 15 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
bubbles

.
1458) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1907298)
Posted 15 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
distillation
1459) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas... it's complicated (Message 1907250)
Posted 15 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

No big deal here in germany as we get extra christmas bonus.
Big companies pay 50% and more of the regular pay check.
I seldom need that for all the presents.


it seems mine Mutter and Omie have stuffed me over in every way..

First they send me off to live with poor part of the family (The English side) and then give themselves all sorts of tax benefits and on top of that get us all to celebrate a rather Germanic looking Christmas where they sell loads of hölzernes tat with little clothes and fluffy beards in the English xmas markets.

Is there a German version of Arthur Daily? (She isn't called Mrs Fietz is he? :)))


(Mum. Nan. I do love you. :))
1460) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas... it's complicated (Message 1907220)
Posted 15 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Les Christmérables

For a different take on the birth and life of Christ..

It could of been a song for him or maybe not as he got to live again..

.. but for the rest of us that only own a pair of pants and get some dodgy perfume or socks on somebody else birthday... and have only dreams or belief...

It is rather complicated ;/
1461) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas... it's complicated (Message 1907219)
Posted 15 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Nothing like roasting your nuts before an open fire :-))



As a veggie I do like to stuff myself around Christmas. It makes my eyes water though.

.
1462) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas... it's complicated (Message 1907206)
Posted 15 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Just what I was thinking...

Anyhow, back towards the topic...
Let's have a think.
..................


Oh my goodness so much to do..

I hope you remembered to prick your chestnuts before you roasted them?

They'll explode other wise you know...

Happy Rob days :).
1463) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas... it's complicated (Message 1907175)
Posted 15 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Angela,

Can I add a new nuance to the thread?

About movies.

Has anybody seen a Christmas movie in the past 20 years (say) that didn't show somebody being buffed up or put down?

(That includes Santa buffing someone up.)

(By buffed I don't mean anything other than duffed... By duffed I mean beaten....)

(Even the bad guys.. Who Were Probably Working Class Or Idiots..)

Someone got hurt and we felt good.. :)

And we felt the Christmas Cheer all around.

Egg Nog for the kids..
1464) Message boards : Politics : The Dismantling Of British Services \ Structures \ Values: (Message 1907114)
Posted 15 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I suspect we are told that because there are certain forces that fear us leaving the EURO Zone...

I think you are meaning that Britain will leave the EU.
Britain has never been part of the .
Like some other EU members that also are not in the EURO Zone.



moomin in this you are correct:

[img=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/Eurozone_participation.svg/301px-Eurozone_participation.svg.png]EURO Zone
[/img]

The blue bits being the evil EUROs :)

So I will restate my point better and say "there are certain forces that fear us leaving Europe" but personally I would think they should fear us rejoining ;/

It is certain that America has attempted to destabalise the Euro.

It is certain that forces have separated Britain into Eire, Scotland an Wales.

The United States Of Euro Americas... Soon to be the USSR of American world colonies... Or perhaps when America runs out of cash it will be Chinese corporate lands or when they burn out their resources Canadians Peoples Places...


All the same.

They will dismantle our best for their profit. :(
1465) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 94 (Message 1907073)
Posted 14 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Sweat-Lodge

.
1466) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas... it's complicated (Message 1907072)
Posted 14 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Jesus Christ was never White,......


It's probably true. Jesus was from Judaic background, had a darker than European skin and most likely spent his middle years travelling all the way to India and brought back a number of "other" ideas. ((Go to the NWFP in Pakistan and they have stories of him from 2000 years ago.) (About the end of the Gandharan Buddhist empire and some ideas not too dissimilar to what he professed.)

I have no doubt at all God is neither white or black. (Prove me wrong :))

Christmas is complicated. We have trees and little folks on trees and Fly-Agaric looking present giving geezers and flying reindeers that hardly exist anymore.

Oh and 1950's American Christmas tunes..

And more money spent on gifts and rubbish than on the families or communities food or needs for the season :(

Each person will probably spend over 10 weeks financial value of basic food to buy a few people some not so needed gifts on one day.

And we will probably say the same old stuff next year.


I like the idea of Christmas..

I wish I could become even more complicated and maybe do something completely unexpected.
1467) Message boards : Politics : The Dismantling Of British Services \ Structures \ Values: (Message 1907060)
Posted 14 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I think over the years we have lost awareness of what we had (and now have become a society that our politicians and professionals found fame in but now are blaming the client (tax payer \ owner \ member) for what has gone wrong.

I never thought Britain was the 4th world power (I certainly thought it was a major power) but now we are being told we are downgraded..

I suspect we are told that because there are certain forces that fear us leaving the EURO Zone...

I'm kind of interested as to what we will become when it is done for proper.

Will we recreate the best of ourselves.
1468) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dance (Message 1906637)
Posted 12 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Artefact

I don't always understand but I am not sure I always need to to just listen and see.
1469) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1906567)
Posted 12 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
no

:-)~
1470) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1906556)
Posted 12 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
penetration

.
1471) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1906543)
Posted 12 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
sweet-heart

x
1472) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas... it's complicated (Message 1906515)
Posted 11 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


eeer... So little... ahhhh.

So Cute :)

My mind tells me it is little and cute but it could be an alien from planet Angela that has super eating us all and stealing our crissy pressie strengths..
1473) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas... it's complicated (Message 1906511)
Posted 11 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
At one time hats like that, minus the stars, were known as Dunce Caps, no way I'd make any kid wear one.


Yes but if you had kids who were SETI members you might ;)
1474) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1906498)
Posted 11 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Hostice


Slovakia


(Where Ever Our Admiral Sets His Compass and Sails We Are Bound To Discover.)
1475) Message boards : Politics : The Dismantling Of British Services \ Structures \ Values: (Message 1906475)
Posted 11 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Are the dismantling of generations or ideals and sufferance of it's people.

National services that looked after water and basic power... GONE

Community and Youth: DESTROYED

National Health Service: DAMAGED.

Social Services: REDUCED and FEARFUL.

A society of professionals who negate and say there is no money when those who "pro-fess" should say I will stand and speak and present what is right.

Fear full.


I live in small home in a wealthy area where I have watched a neighbour in a million+ home have a garage built on the side of their home.

The garage has take several months and probably costs the price of a nurses wage for 3 years in a hospital and hundreds if not thousands of people helped.

I have seen this through out the area I live in.
1476) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas... it's complicated (Message 1906466)
Posted 11 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
What do the men and boys have to do?

We dress up like this:)


Oh my Goodness..

I'm in two minds to moving to Sweden. I love gold stars but not sure I like the paper hats and frowns.

I was all of the thought the men were sweaty lodging and running around with axes and wearing animal skins?

Maybe us Brits need to invade Sweden?
1477) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1906462)
Posted 11 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
* twinkle *
1478) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas... it's complicated (Message 1906449)
Posted 11 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:




moomin.

If this is your idea of Christmas - then count me in :)

What do the men and boys have to do?

:)
1479) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas... it's complicated (Message 1906447)
Posted 11 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I'm not a big lover of religion or faith in any of it's forms, they seems to create so much misunderstanding and panic in the ranks if you're unwilling to follow their chosen path. But I fully understand that many get solace and comfort from their faith...but me.. I'm happy wandering in the wilderness with my moral compass to guide me...


I love celebrations. I do wonder if I am a bit perverse for liking the idea that we all come together in a great train wreck of tangled mess in the center..

It's never about Christmas.. It's about pudding and may be more about if we care about each other and ourselves enough so we no longer cling to ideas like 'me'....

Crike

y....I've rambled a bit...not like me....and a serious post to boot...I'll have to have a lie down..

I raise a glass to friends, to those no longer with us, that are always in our hearts....

Right, I'm off to write my letter to Santa...


I hope you have been a good boy!
1480) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dance (Message 1906443)
Posted 11 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Different styles and flavours of dance you like.:

Bharatanatyam

If I could have such devotion to motion as this.
1481) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1906442)
Posted 11 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Piggies

.
1482) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas... it's complicated (Message 1905805)
Posted 9 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Got it:)
https://www.svtplay.se/video/15581229/first-aid-kit-tolkar-cohen-pa-dramaten/first-aid-kit-tolkar-cohen-pa-dramaten-avsnitt-1
Only in Sweden sorry to say.
When Leonard Cohen passed away in November 2016, First Aid Kit sisters Klara and Johanna Söderberg decided to make a tribute concert to their idol. They invited a number of Swedish artists and actors to interpret the Canadian singer and poet in word and tone. It became a peculiar and refined performance at the Royal Dramatic Theater in Stockholm. Playing Susanne, Sisters of Mercy, Hallelujah and So Long, Marianne.


The poetry stuff is rather dark. (Kind of Celtic - From my perspective.)

It does fit together though and the songs (in particular Suzanne) are sung by angels.

I like the glockenspiel and notes in the background.
1483) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas... it's complicated (Message 1905779)
Posted 9 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I liked their tribute to Leonard Cohen...
Hmm...
That one is blocked by SVT due to publishing rights according to the message I get.
Rather strange if SVT is true because that's the national TV broadcaster over here.


If you are using the internet in Sweden then it's possible your local companies (those that have control or financial benefit) may have the power to block your ability to watch local content or connect to a wider world that reflects back your own culture.

I am a bit surprised as here in the UK we suffer quite lot of government issues with the internet. The department of work and pensions pops up a lot when browsing certain (legal) websites. I didn't expect someone else within the EU to say they suffered social control.

All I can suggest is do what a soul needs to to hear a song by another and try Tor Browser.. It's portable so if it doesn't work just delete the folder.

One way or another.
1484) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are you listening to? (Message 1905759)
Posted 9 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Björk.


I like this.

I saw her perform and spent time in my city with the 'Sugar Cubes' band a-long time ago now.

She is not weird she is just rather effervescent.

I like 'Venus as a boy'.. I fell in love with her and her spatula and her kitchen and her cute hair rolls and the eggs.....

She will always be magical.

She can melt us :)...

Oh..
1485) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas... it's complicated (Message 1905753)
Posted 8 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Anyway. Kids still loves Christmas celebration.
Not so complicated to them.
As long they ate their porridge so they can get their presents....


I actually do love Christmas even if I think it is a pain in the pants.

.. and when I see the surprise in the young ones eyes in my life opening a gift it all makes sense.

"Porridge Before Presents" sounds like an excellent rule for all of us. :)

I like my porridge made with water and on top a little splash of milk and a trickle of honey.

(I know... I am an imperfect vegetarian. I steal milk from calfs and I nick honey from bees.. Mmm.)


Hey moomin have you heard of 'First Aid Kit'? They are superb. Sisters and souls.

I liked their tribute to Leonard Cohen...
1486) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas... it's complicated (Message 1905739)
Posted 8 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.....Maybe I will become a vegetarian after all:)

Wait until someone makes you the stereotypical 'nut roast' or pretend 'haggis'....

You'll soon return to chomping down on animal flesh.

I'm with Angela here... Celebrations can be a pain in the bum :)
1487) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1905718)
Posted 8 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
chunk
1488) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1905710)
Posted 8 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
2B

?-!
1489) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1905682)
Posted 8 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
access
1490) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas... it's complicated (Message 1905680)
Posted 8 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I'll be thrashing that one out on my SG plus Marshall stack in a few days time


Marshall's have a warm sound.


Can't wait to hear your Thrash Metal \ Grunge Xmas record.

If you need some backing let me know.
1491) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas... it's complicated (Message 1905676)
Posted 8 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I haven't played with my digeridoo for a while now.

(Am I allowed to say that?)


You are allowed because we know you just can't help yourself. :)~



I've played happy xmas on my Didg for the family's entertainment... They watched with amasement. (Perhaps disbelief.. LOL)

Personally I thought it sounded like raspberries..

Meat eaters.. They will accept anything. :)~
1492) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas... it's complicated (Message 1905572)
Posted 8 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Altogether now

Key of C

1, 2, 3, go

BAH HUMBUG!!!


For the crazy guitarists and digeridoo players amongst us:

MAIN:
--------------

G                   C
We wish you a Merry Christmas..
   A                D
We wish you a Merry Christmas..
   B                Em              C   D  D7  G 
We wish you a Merry Christmas and a Hap-py New Year. 

...

CHORUS:
--------------
G               D        Em  D   A    D
Good tidings we bring to you and your kin..
     G           D               C   D  D7  G
Good tidings for Christmas and a Hap-py New Year.

...

OUTRO:
--------------
   B                Em                C   D   D7   G 
We wish you a Merry Christmas...and a Hap-py..New..Year. 
1493) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas... it's complicated (Message 1905570)
Posted 8 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
A public service announcement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4GHQkKwHa0


Cool.

I think I need to go and check out that rash.. So itchy...

scRatchy.. :)
1494) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1905566)
Posted 8 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
egalitarian
1495) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas... it's complicated (Message 1905386)
Posted 7 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
My older niece is vegan, She always does Her own food, no one cares or bothers Her about it.


I spent 10 years vegan. It is not easy.

I don't know how old your niece is or how your family works.

I am sure for her she will say her own thing but as a person within a community I am sure she would also like to be completely enveloped within a cultural way of being.

Have you or your family taken a year out to be vegan on her behalf?

Would that bother you?

:))))

How would xmas seem then?

<Not meaning to be rude but it is kind of a worthy question?>

(I'm not anti meat eating by the way... I just prefer not to and see it as unnecessary.)
1496) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1905383)
Posted 7 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Salem


walekum (a)

(Wa alaykumu s-salam)

(I Know I'm Not Muslim. I Am A Child Of God And Nature Though... And Fear Only That I Can Not Speak Freely In Front Of Life Or My Fellow Beings.)
1497) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas... it's complicated (Message 1905366)
Posted 7 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

This thread is for the rest of us who, five days into this dreadful month, are already over-whelmed.


I don't eat meat and when being with family they never understood not to roast their veg in meat fat.

Christmas never overwhelmed me specifically. (People's ways did though sometimes.)

I look at xmas and I see people celebrating some event that makes them feel nice or satisfied.

It's Life. I guess...

I don't see myself as being an outsider or as a complication. I do see it as rather sad given the meaning of the idea.

Hey they are going to eat animals and buy stuff from companies that pay their workers each week less than a jar of cranberry source costs us to buy at a whim.
1498) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas... it's complicated (Message 1905364)
Posted 7 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Rob.. It seems you have plenty of admirers for your next trip out.

I'm still amazed how you go under the tunnels and don't knock the angel off the top of the christmas tree.

I like these crazy narrow-boaters.....

Hope you like them too....
1499) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1905343)
Posted 7 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
familiar..
1500) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1905329)
Posted 7 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
welsh-rarebit
1501) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1904892)
Posted 5 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Gump


Media


(Gump = American Term. Fool. Different. Negation. Idiot. Abusive. Sad.)
1502) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1904872)
Posted 4 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
burns
.
1503) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Carlos (Message 1904865)
Posted 4 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Eey up our Carlos.

From Middle Earth UK We Send You Our Love On Your Special Day.

1504) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1904852)
Posted 4 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
rough
1505) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Dr SETI (Message 1904840)
Posted 4 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

He spelled it Dr. C.E.T.I. . https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=259585


Yes. But I think Dr SETI is also nice :)

Smiles.
1506) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1904055)
Posted 1 Dec 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
new
.
1507) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1903963)
Posted 30 Nov 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Unconcerned
1508) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Dr SETI (Message 1903936)
Posted 30 Nov 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Richard. Where ever you travel you will always be part of us. Travel well our friend.


Joanne. There is no way to express my sorrow for the loss of your eternal and special loved one.

In your sorrow may you know love is eternal.



May the sun's warmth keep you and life's light and your family's love lift your soul.

My heart to you and your family and loved ones.

xxx
Pete
1509) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1903235)
Posted 28 Nov 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Britain..

Lower
1510) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1903210)
Posted 27 Nov 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Polished-Platter

.
1511) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Dr SETI (Message 1903173)
Posted 27 Nov 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
There are many people on our forums and in our community who we wish to speak about or to when they are unwell or off line or off the grid for one reason or another

Yes lets raise them (and make them sticky for a while) but let's also just let them be our best of next to souls.

We can't always tell what paths people take. We try but being human is a special thing. It means not always knowing the fantastic that we will be.

Thank you Monday.

(I too think this thread should become part of our general community and not so sticky anymore. It now belongs to all or any of us.)

Thank you all that keep us aware.
1512) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1903170)
Posted 27 Nov 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Broken-Button :(
1513) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : The Zen Of BOINCing (Message 1902653)
Posted 24 Nov 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
How long have you been here they asked.

Since we moved in we said.

How long is that they inquired?

Well that is four characters long we replied!


the The Zen Of BOINC.


we are the biggest littlest team

and probably the team with the most characters...

... but to save time we just shorten it down to TFFE or as others like to say:

"oo".... "ahh"....


Where ever you BOINC.

You BOINC next to the best...
1514) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1902623)
Posted 24 Nov 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
winkie

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1515) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : The Zen Of BOINCing (Message 1902616)
Posted 23 Nov 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Come Travel With Us.

.
1516) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1902581)
Posted 23 Nov 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
moon
1517) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1901821)
Posted 19 Nov 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

passion :o)~

1518) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1901792)
Posted 19 Nov 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Shaken
1519) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1901761)
Posted 19 Nov 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Robotech



Mega-Gloval ;)
1520) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1901745)
Posted 18 Nov 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
admired


Admiral-Gloval


(He that traverses the eternal choppy seas of the internet with us and we admire.)
1521) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1901737)
Posted 18 Nov 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
illustrious

.
1522) Questions and Answers : Web site : Posting button no longer works - in certain browsers?. (Message 1901734)
Posted 18 Nov 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Without telling which browser(s) you use there's not much anyone can do to test what you say you see.
In any way, a simple add-on/extension called NoScript will tell you that there are no scripts on these pages. No Javascript, no Google APIs, nothing.
The only thing used is bootstrap, which is a content management system using cascading style sheets (CSS). The version used here is very light, it merely tells the forums which fonts and colours to use, for pages, buttons and columns.



Mmm. OK.

So has bootstrap changed or the html code on these pages changed In the last few weeks?

Of course there is a possibility of code injection via my ISP (Virgin)??

NoScript hasn't changed for me, not has my favourite browser so they shouldn't be an issue.

I will do a recheck again using my favourite browser but this time switching off anything that gets in the way.

Thanks Ageless for responding.
1523) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1901118)
Posted 15 Nov 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
suits
1524) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Dr SETI (Message 1901114)
Posted 15 Nov 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I swear my dear son, no one in the entire world is as precious as you are.

Look at that mirror.

Take a good look at yourself.

Who else is there above and beyond you? Now give yourself a kiss and with sweet whispers fill your ears to the brim.

Watch for all that beauty reflecting from you and sing a love song to your existence.

You can never overdo praising your own soul.

You can never over-pamper your heart.

You are both the father and the son, the sugar and the sugar cane.

Who else but you? Please tell me who else can ever take your place? Now give yourself a smile.

What is the worth of a diamond if it doesn’t shine? How can I ever put a price on the diamond that you are?


.... Rumi

Where ever you are Richard we are thinking of you and your family.
1525) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Dr SETI (Message 1901103)
Posted 15 Nov 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The Oct 29 post is the last one I have seen on his page.


Thank you Carlos for keeping us updated and your kindness towards Richard and ourselves.

People come and go from these forums.

Some have a long history and others short.

Some on SETI or BOINC are never seen on the forums but crunch hard,

Some are never really known.

Some are well known.

All are members but we can't always tell what happens in their lives when they go offline from the forums - even if we personally miss them.

Sometimes it is enough to have known a soul and have become more because we walked with them for a while.

Whatever is Richard's situation I wish him love and gentleness.

Oh and a sprinkle of me and punk just to let him know.. ;)
1526) Questions and Answers : Web site : Posting button no longer works - in certain browsers?. (Message 1901084)
Posted 15 Nov 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
When I post now (the last week) I end up with a blank screen.

Perhaps it is because SETI relies on third party css, js, html5 that updates beyond it's control?

There is a slow down on certain browsers.

(I see it on other web sites too.)

A University should not be held to the behest of 3rd party formats or scripts like bootstrap or google frameworks et al.

Is there any need for 3rd party javascript, recent convoluted html5 or css? I mean as long as it is visually readable and transmits dialog, meaning and intent.

I can't see any difference to the website today related to how it could have been 5 or so years ago.

Something has changed and I don't think it need have.

Now I have to log in via a different web browser to post rather than my favourite browser that i use for all my secure finacial transactions.. That should tell you something given this is just a forum..

I have tested the issue on various browsers and I can post using this browser but not my favourite.

Anyone know why?

I think it's Berkeley's js or html5?
1527) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1901083)
Posted 15 Nov 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
mahjong

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1528) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1900102)
Posted 9 Nov 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
self
1529) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1899953)
Posted 9 Nov 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
and-quartered ;/ <eek>

.
1530) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1899941)
Posted 9 Nov 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
sharra-bang
1531) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1898380)
Posted 31 Oct 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Tupperware
1532) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1898337)
Posted 30 Oct 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
pout
1533) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1897683)
Posted 27 Oct 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Peter
1534) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1897624)
Posted 26 Oct 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
across
1535) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1897603)
Posted 26 Oct 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
detail
1536) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1897202)
Posted 24 Oct 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
salty

.
1537) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A little help with Alexa please (Message 1897184)
Posted 23 Oct 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Well it seems that not many people here have had any dealing with Alexa ;-)


There is kind of a battle between google and MS as to web based speech responsive technologies.

Personally I prefer not to share my voice and requests with any company that collect information on their users and record that data.

Alexa is basically a dumb microphone that sends to a server and gets an instruction back.

I can tell my grandaughter to switch on the light..

The big difference is that she may have her own thoughts but she will process and know or accept that turning on the lights is the best thing to do. (She may also negate.. which I may also accept.)

Alexa (and similar) is being recorded and surrendering our data, voice and thoughts to a private company.

For me Alexa is an expensive toy that I would not allow into my general life.

Just as a test have you asked Alexa to download a torrent of windows 7?
1538) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A little help with Alexa please (Message 1897178)
Posted 23 Oct 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
When I originally posted this there was a complaint that I should not be able to state what sort of posts I do not want in the thread.
.


Personally I think it OK to ask that people do not respond to the negative social, cultural, ecconomic issues but just get into the "how do I do this" issues.. (I does kind of limit ideas but hey that is your life :))
1539) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1897176)
Posted 23 Oct 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Chinese-Sailor

!
1540) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Dr SETI (Message 1897173)
Posted 23 Oct 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
May I ask on behalf of our community that if Joanne wishes to post to this forum that we extend to her a 'guest account' as one who stands next to a known and beloved member taht is ill .

Joanne. If you would like to share information about Richard first hand please ask someone to contact any of the mods.

I suggest contacting Eric Korpela with your details so they are kept personal and share our community's value in Richard.

If anyone has contact with Richard's famiy or Joanne please share this post.

Just to be next to a soul breaks my heart. It is warmth and it is shared.
1541) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1897163)
Posted 23 Oct 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Endorphin - Addicts
.
1542) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1896055)
Posted 19 Oct 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
costume
1543) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1895591)
Posted 16 Oct 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
rally

.
1544) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Photographs by Setizens - Originals only - any subject (Message 1895571)
Posted 15 Oct 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
We're spending a few days over on the Isle of Man...these are a few photos close to Peel Castle...must have taken 250 photos over the course of an hour...o:)



.....


Love these pictures Gnu.

They are very Northen. Viseral. Hard. Effervescent.

In the past we would have used a red or green filter with film to emphasise weather and contrast.

What did you do to make these images so punchy?
1545) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Photographs by Setizens - Originals only - any subject (Message 1895570)
Posted 15 Oct 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Love the barge, Rob and the photos...you'll have to have tootle up the Lancaster canal... :o)


Naughty. It's a 'Narrow Boat' not a barge?
1546) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1895561)
Posted 15 Oct 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
full
.
1547) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1895007)
Posted 13 Oct 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
as
.
1548) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1893533)
Posted 6 Oct 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
7474

.
1549) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1893507)
Posted 6 Oct 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Ishtar

.
1550) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1893411)
Posted 5 Oct 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
∞
1551) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1893398)
Posted 5 Oct 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
uncommon-man

.
1552) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1892536)
Posted 30 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Sherbet
.
1553) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Dr SETI (Message 1892527)
Posted 29 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Richard.

.. because you are magic

... and more beyond that

A song for you to enjoy..


x
1554) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1892509)
Posted 29 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
gobblers

.
1555) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1892494)
Posted 29 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
primal-inducers

'
1556) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1892069)
Posted 27 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
pickled-baby-rabbits

.
1557) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1892041)
Posted 27 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Herd
1558) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1891582)
Posted 23 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
essentialist
1559) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1891125)
Posted 21 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
growth
.
1560) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 93 (Message 1891097)
Posted 21 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Ancient

.
1561) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The continuing of life's adventures of the kittyman. (Message 1891088)
Posted 21 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Oh Kitty.

You American's and your love for perfect teeth (or hate / fear of getting older..)

Why not save your $800 and spend it on a plane ticket to the UK to visit us.

If you have teeth issues whilst here we will drill or remove em for free :)

We only charge $200 for a plate of new plastic nashers for Americans :)

Joking aside. I think God or Nature did us a disservice giving us one set of frail teeth :(
1562) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Dr SETI (Message 1891049)
Posted 21 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Richard.

The Waterboys.

Dance next to you.


.
1563) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Dr SETI (Message 1891046)
Posted 20 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
A couple of pictures of Richard I found....................




Well caught Kitty.

Richard is a hansom chap :)

.
1564) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1890476)
Posted 17 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
flotation

.
1565) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1890470)
Posted 17 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
puss-in-boots

.
1566) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1890458)
Posted 17 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
parody
1567) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1890455)
Posted 17 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Giles

.
1568) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link Discussion Thread IV (Message 1890454)
Posted 17 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Daikon: Asian radish that looks like a white carrot.


It was the evil Victorians who stole our white \ purple carrots and bred them into generic orange things.

It was also the Victorians who sent Alice down the hole after A White Warrot..

Those Victorians had a thing about carrots ...
1569) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1890445)
Posted 17 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
white-carrots
.
1570) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Dr SETI (Message 1890438)
Posted 17 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Richard.

Sending some Bob Marley your way.

:)
1571) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Dr SETI (Message 1890378)
Posted 17 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Just posted on FaceBook (9/15 8:37 am PT)
....Richard is now under hospice care in our home. ....



Thank you for keeping us updated on our friend Carlos.

Being under hospice care is a part of life and not the end of life.

From experience hospice for a loved one is a personal experience for family and close friends.

Richard.

Our Heart To You And Your Family.

x
1572) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1890370)
Posted 17 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Richard

.
1573) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1889850)
Posted 15 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Chubut
1574) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC on Same Machine Different OS? (Message 1889833)
Posted 14 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Given your GPU and memory SETI shouldn't be hitting the disk hard or often. Check the "checkpoint" time (under advanced/options/computing preferences.

The default time is 60 seconds, try winding up to say 120 or even 180 seconds and see if that helps.



I've taken your advice and changed the checkpoint to 120 seconds.

These are solid little SFF machines but the noise (repetitive every second) whilst BOINC is running tells me either the drive is caching or the fan is altering speed.

(I have opened and dusted it.)

I am however thinking that it might be a good thing to try a linux setup. (This will leave my livingroom PC free to be switched on or off as I please.)

I prefer a basic visual GUI environments and don't like leaving a machine single use. (So in linux I might want to do a little compiling for Android.. Once in a while.)

Anybody can suggest a basic linux distribution that has a simple GUI that leaves as much memory for BOINC but allows for a point and click person like me?

I've used Ubuntu, slack etc..

Just looking for something that leaves as much memory and CPU for BOINC as possible but allows me to do the odd extra thing?
1575) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC on Same Machine Different OS? (Message 1889796)
Posted 14 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
At the moment I run SETI on my living room PC. (Win7 Quad Core x64 12GB Memory - Basic Office Machine. Phenom.)

(PC is always on but I only use this PC for SETI and some browsing or light office or media.)

All is well atm but SETI seems to cache to the hard disk a lot. (pagefile). (It's audible.)

I was thinking as I have another unused PC exactly the same if it would be worth me putting linux on that PC and running BOINC from that headless instead?

Question is: Does BOINC hammer the disk, pagefile less in linux?
1576) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1889793)
Posted 14 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Warm
1577) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1889787)
Posted 14 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
rhubarb
1578) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1889438)
Posted 12 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Supermarket
1579) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1888292)
Posted 7 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
fierce

.
1580) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1888274)
Posted 7 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Pride

(kittyman knows.. Ours.)
1581) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1888257)
Posted 7 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Daughters

Our Amazing Big Girls
1582) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1888230)
Posted 6 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
fruitless

.
1583) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1888207)
Posted 6 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
dam
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1584) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Dr SETI (Message 1888204)
Posted 6 Sep 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I met a man one day.
A wonderful man.
A person that inspires us.
A soul just to be.


Ey up Richard.

A loving wave for you and yours from this side of the pond.

Where ever you travel we are there.

xx
1585) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1886817)
Posted 30 Aug 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
turtle
1586) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1886805)
Posted 30 Aug 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
around
1587) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Hi! I (Message 1886785)
Posted 30 Aug 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Hey there dude. I have no idea how to post Chinese symbols on this board.


Not a perfect method but google translate and a bit of copy and paste works:

分享


Wish I could speak every language under the sun or we had one universal language. (Kind of like though we have all our differences. Makes us have to work hard to discover the best in us all.)

.
1588) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Hi! I (Message 1886779)
Posted 30 Aug 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Hi! My name is GR大大. I'm Chinese. Now,I'm a novice. I don't well in English. Please understand


大 Welcome to you too. 大

Glad you joined us.

Have fun and chat whilst you crunch.

.
1589) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1885714)
Posted 24 Aug 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
leg
1590) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1885664)
Posted 23 Aug 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Healer
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1591) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1882345)
Posted 6 Aug 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
spuds
1592) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1882218)
Posted 5 Aug 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Talōs
1593) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time X (Message 1882191)
Posted 5 Aug 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
..

Red and black for steering?


Hehe..

I think it is the latest form of pleasure toy.

A syringe for conductive lubricant and an AC or DC voltage for heat or electrical zapping or the inflation or vibration of that little end.

Where ever it goes just hold on tight to your precious bits and don't lean forwards :/ eek...

.
1594) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1882187)
Posted 5 Aug 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
sculpted
1595) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1882170)
Posted 5 Aug 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
slated
1596) Questions and Answers : Web site : What's up with the date stamp? (Message 1881562)
Posted 2 Aug 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
It's about 2.02am here in the UK for me. (GMT.)

Unix time? = 1501635765 seconds since Jan 01 1970. (UTC)
1597) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1881558)
Posted 2 Aug 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
third-class

.
1598) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Dr SETI (Message 1881554)
Posted 2 Aug 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Nothing fails like prayer.

I fully expect that a storm of vituperous criticism will fall upon me from believers and non-believers alike for the above remark. But it needs to be said.


Nothing raises us as much as hope and care for another we call brother or sister.

I'm not religious but as a simple human I recognise the value of the souls \ beings around me.

Prayers \ hopes \ loves \ friendships \ comeraderie \ knowing \ wishes \ being.. Way's of expressing connection. Imperfect but....

The thing that matters is letting another know we are there.

No storm.. Just a breeze.


My warmth and prayers and hopes to Richard.
1599) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Depression (Message 1880540)
Posted 27 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
..
Lol, I'm sorry, I sound like a know-it-all. I definitely don't...


It's the sign of an intelligent mind when we question the questions in question...

Or perhaps the sign of a true genius madness :)~

I meant we always knew you were a genius.. Not that I thought you were a know-it-all...

I wish I knew it all. It would save me from trying to know anything.

That would be a kind of peace.
1600) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Depression (Message 1880534)
Posted 27 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...
Well, I'm a genius, then. ;~) Thank you for making me feel better about myself.


We always knew.

.
1601) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Depression (Message 1880533)
Posted 27 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Just to add a different slant to the thread:

I love this song: Marmalade - Reflections Of My Life.

It's a bit of a cultural artifact and isn't how I see the world but has an introspection I kind of know.

Do you have a tune that gets to the core of you?



(Also has anyone here read any of the works of Candace Pert? I'd be interested in chating about reciprocity between body, cells, mind and thought....)
1602) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Depression (Message 1880527)
Posted 27 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.......
I consider myself as having been in a depression all my life, but I also have good moods and bad. (My depression isn't one big long bad mood.) Good point......


Now consider this idea.

We know there is a genetic propensity of one in four. A transmition or change of certain characteristics.

What if the one in four of people who experience depression at some point in their lives... or the one in four of them that suffer it all of their lives... are just another genetic propensity..

What if people who suffer depression are what nature throws out as evolutionary possibilities and because we do not fit in to the current state we can not cope both mentally or physically.

What if people with depression (or at least one in four of them) are the next evolutionary step in our bio-brain being? :)

The mind boggles..
1603) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Depression (Message 1880518)
Posted 27 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
..

A percentage of us will have a generally low (or happy or negative or go getting or passive.. whatever) mood so whilst we might suffer clinical depression it would probably be a mistake to try to chemically over-ride our biological natural state.


My mother was always on the low mood side. What does that mean, exactly? Well, she was always a very contemplative ponderous person. That, in itself doesn't clinically define depression, although it may superficially come across so to some people. In the grand scheme of things, she was a dichotomous mix of mellowness and anxiety. The way I follow your point is we should all try harder to live with the way our brains are, rather than try to change them through medication. I can agree with that to a certain extent, but it doesn't always work, and modern brain science medicine is good for a lot of people.


I think my point (perhaps poorly expressed) was what I think you are getting at.

In clinical depression it is often hard to seperate the natural state of our bodies and minds from the illness.

If we can we should try and seperate our natural mood state from an illness.

If only as a self kindness so not as to add an extra burden thinking we are more ill than we are.

That doesn't mean that natural or biological non-plus states can't be improved also for the comfort and benefit of ones life.

I think I was trying to say that even with depression you can still feel the natural everyday issues and lows but we should be cautious not to add that on top of the health issue.

I just know from my own reflections on my experience that feeling low or distressed is not a proof of clinical depression.

Clinical depression doesn't neccesarily mean a negative mood.

Your brain may be a go getting personality but for whatever reason your body may be or say different.

I'm not much into concepts or types of herbalism but don't discount that some find it usefull.

Some herbals or what we should really just call 'plants' have significant effect.

Some people swear by St Jon's Wort.

Mandrake has some anti-psychotic effects.

Those tiny grey (not psilocybin) mushrooms that grow on most english lawns are filled with neuro-active chemicals that have an effect.

I suspect that if we compared the healing or recovery effects (and discounted natural recovery) of those who suffered some general illness and took say an anti-biotic, an anti-viral, had surgery or anti-depressant that anti-depressants would be low on the scale of ameliorators. (That which makes us better or well.)

I prefer modern western medicine.

.. but I am not a 'believer' in modern pharamacology as I don't have to be. It either works or it doesn't.


My grandmothers used St Jon's Wort. I suspect it is used more by females.

Perhaps it has a better effect on female bio-chemistry?

(As to ideas and their effect. Culturally St Jon's Wort is used and trusted more by Germans than most other nations for mood issues?.... Another odd fact is that mint was imported into Britain by the Romans. Prior to that St Jon's Wort held it's place?... )
1604) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1880508)
Posted 27 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
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congruence
1605) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Depression (Message 1880503)
Posted 27 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
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The Doc wants Me to try a sleep trial, here at home, then I take the kit or whatever back, He thinks I have sleep apnea, ok that's a new one to Me.


Worth a try!

I think they are looking at the issue of disruption to lung movement relating to your stomach position.

Common question relating to apnea (I have been asked them) are are you overweight (especially around the neck) or have suffered brain injury or neurological issues...? (Restless leg seems to be another question asked.)

Oxygnation of blood can be checked with the same (similar) device they clip on your finger to monitor your pulse.

I guess they want to check what you are up to when you are suppossed to be asleep..

Maybe you are a sleepwalking disco dancer or maybe you astrally project like all good SETI BOINCers :)~
1606) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Depression (Message 1880501)
Posted 27 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
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I'm on an anti-depressant and it seems to be working a little, but I think
I'm one of those people who might need one of those supplement pills -
the ones they advertise on TV for people who are on anti-depressants
but who still feel sad most of the time.

Are there any of you out there who are in this category who care to discuss this?

I keep telling myself I'm going to call my doctor, but I keep procrastinating.


It's difficult for me to respond directly as I am in the UK and UK law probably disallows some of the TV adverts refering to depression that you see.

What are the names of those tablets and their ingedients?

One of the big problems is that sometimes companies will obfusticate the real ingredients by using a chemical name even though it might be just something you could pick from the side of the street.

The other issue for an international forum is that what can be sold in your country would be controlled or banned elsewhere.

The issue that catches my mind is that 99% of anti-depressants are aimed at those who have a similar brain \ body structure and chemistry. (Generally generic.) So may not properly suit those whose physiology (or mindset) do not fit that general norm of clinical depression.

Without knowing the TV advertised supplements you refer to it is imposible to comment.

Given most media advertised supplements (that would not otherwise be prescribed by a local GP) tend to be about making money off either ignorance or sufferance I have no fear in saying don't take (or buy) without properly researching. (.. and don't believe for a second the advertisements...)

St Jon's Wort is a common herbal remedy that is touted as a fix for depression. (There are plenty of others.)

Most of these you can grow for yourself or buy from local sources.

Another thing that gets me is that we are all individuals which means we also have certains 'moods' inbuilt into our cells.

A percentage of us will have a generally low (or happy or negative or go getting or passive.. whatever) mood so whilst we might suffer clinical depression it would probably be a mistake to try to chemically over-ride our biological natural state.

Of course that depends on what we mean by being sad or happy or the shades inbetween or outside.

(Sorry. I think I got a little verbose but I remember an issue here in the UK with a medication that caught on for psoriasis that was all the rage in the US.. It worked fantastically untill people ended up months later with far greater issues.. then discovered it was just the same hormone but at a much stronger dose.. Cells depleted and more damage.. :( )

If you have faith in your doctor then why not go for a chat.

Magical remedies seen on TV rarerly help anyone but the sellers. (It would be interesting to see what the curative statistics are above the initial placebo effect.)
1607) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Newspapers (Message 1879897)
Posted 23 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
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....

At present we have two free newspapers in London the daily Metro,and ...



Here in middle earth (The Midlands) we get the Metro too. It's free on most of our busses and trains.

(We don't get free newspapers through the door anymore so you must be a posh southener they care about :))

It's not a bad paper and makes a 30 (or 90) minute journey seem a little shorter.

I don't know if they tailor the news style (slant) differently for different regions.

Some of the stories are regional and interestingly not too bias politically.

In general I only read the first 30% as the middle section is often about posh nobs and actors and the later section is about sport and adverts for mystics that will read your future for a price.

Some take the paper home with them (makes a great underlay for carpet or wrapping for glass or noodles in the bin) and some leave the paper on the seat or annoyingly on the floor.

The Metro is a great tradition in free paper news and updated several times a week.

If only they wrapped some fresh chips (pom de frit) in them. I'd read them all of the time and travel far more.

Most newspapers and magazines historically make their primary costs from inline advertising or patronage type support (political or ecconomic interest) so the cost for a newspaper is often arbitary or nominal. (We pay 20 bits so we feel we own and paid for something worth reading.)

The internet sellers of news still havn't worker out how to forcibly charge or get around advertising blocks to feed us their news yet. (Thank god.)
1608) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Newspapers (Message 1879890)
Posted 23 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
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"Nothing Happened At All Today"


Could you imagine the panic if you woke up tomorrow to find your favourite newspaper or syndicate or enews simply had the above headline:

We would probably grub around in our news medias for hours just to find out if the price of apples had gone up or fallen by half a penny per tonne just to feel satisfied that something had actually happened...

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1609) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Dr SETI (Message 1879886)
Posted 23 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
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@bluestar

No real science or history needed.

DR SETI has been around for a long time.

He is himself and a bit of an artist.

He hasn't been active on the forums for a while.

He has health issues.

People are showing their fondness and well wishes for a long time cruncher and a friend.
1610) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1879812)
Posted 23 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
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ironclad

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1611) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Newspapers (Message 1879806)
Posted 23 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
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the ink

I am under the impression the ink for my local paper is soy-based.

Most of us like to hear news that satisfies our perspective...

At my meeting with the Editor, he did what everybody does when they think their perspective is "fair and balanced", so to speak. ;~) He said he thinks the paper here presents all perspectives. :~0



Soy is a monoculture crop that has been surplanted for so many of our native varients.. Maybe that is why our news is so one sided :)

There is nothing new about a culture that makes news a consumerist entertainment or desire to hear just one side.

If you read any of the Victorian newspapers they do exactly the same stuff.

I think Ramesses the 2nd was probably the first news maker and news editor with his amazing victory at Kadesh written large on the walls of Egypt. No victory but turned into such. Not electronically but in stone and around the kingdom on papyrus.

News needs a rather large (bucket sized) pinch of salt.
1612) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Newspapers (Message 1879780)
Posted 23 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
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Reuters is not attitude or politics free but it has been where most newspapers and enews has come from for a generation or so.

Reuters is where those who obfusticate the news get their stories and sell them on.

One of the old issues around British (and others) newspapers is that the ink included chemicals like arsenic, lead, mercury...

These days of course there is less aggressive or heavy toxins in the ink as they are bound using other interesting chemical compounds now but since the majority of the worlds arsenic is used in wood production (and reused in paper) we are still enjoying this effect.

I enjoy my media and news via electronic methods and even if I read something on paper it still got there because it first came via electronic medias into the publishing or printing houses.

I don't believe for a second that electronic media is cheaper than an old form printing press shared paper given the vast cost of electricity, copper wiring, thousands of millions of personal electronic devices, satelites and all their contaminents (or cost of recovery) when batteries die or their false cost due to petrol is taken into account.

Paper isn't forever recoverable but is far more biodegradable (as long as we don't poisen it) than a smartphone or tablet that you will throw away or upgrade after a year or so.

These days there is a certain difference (maybe smell) relating to paper. I suspect more people on the planet means more paper means less quality paper and more dust from poorer quality paper fibres and more chemical fixants.. (Unless you or your advertisers can afford to pay for better paper fibres and ink.)

Not sure more money though pays for better news. Maybe it pays for news that is more palitable though?


As to the news.

Most of us like to hear news that satisfies our perspective... even if all we hear is the same old stuff... So maybe we should stop listening to the news...

It would be cheaper and better on the future if instead of reading the news we created it.. at least in our own lives....
1613) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1879745)
Posted 22 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
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index
1614) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1879100)
Posted 19 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
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protagonist

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1615) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1879096)
Posted 19 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
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necromongers

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1616) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Depression (Message 1879095)
Posted 19 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
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To Be.

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1617) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Dr SETI (Message 1879078)
Posted 19 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
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I cut and pasted this post from Joanne Lubrich directly from Facebook. I'm sure she wont mind. A lot of us know Richard.

"Alright Facebook friends. Time for a prayer request. Please pray for a miracle for Richard W Lubrich Jr, my brother in law. ...."


We tend to forget how long we have been on these forums and all the good souls we have met.

Thank you Monday for keeping us in touch with one of the best of our souls.

Richard you have always been a really cool dude.



We had the chance to speak across the seas on the phone long ago about community stuff.

I have never forgot your equity and warmth.

The road is wide and it travels on forever.

Be so good to keep traveling it next to you.

My heart is with you and your family in this difficult time.

Wishing you gentleness.

Pete
xxx
1618) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday, Uli (Message 1879023)
Posted 19 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
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A Big Blue Magic Uli.

(Uli loves wearing blue.... I think if she could she'd don the woad and join our Icinian Boudican Warrioresses up t north..)

Happy Uliness.

(Sorry image is big. I borrowed it from some deviant artist and this forum has no way to control size..).

1619) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Depression (Message 1879004)
Posted 19 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
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....
Good point, I agree, but I think time and other posts can change initial perceptions.


I know. Not all threads have easy births.. :)

I hear you Gordon....

Time to focus on the now.

Boots it is a good topic. Thank you.
1620) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1878993)
Posted 19 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
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Majeure

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1621) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1878987)
Posted 19 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
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delta

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1622) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Depression (Message 1878983)
Posted 19 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
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@cRunchy - I believe this thread was started by Puss in Boots in response to a comment I made in this thread. I assume because she felt more able to take the heat I got in my inbox (that caused me to make the comment in the first place) than I myself am. Which is why I said this.



If you get unpleasant or difficult posts in your inbox yet believe you have done nothing to encourage such then copy the posts to the admins and if they don't help then speak to those outside of your circle that you feel you can trust.

Please forgive us if we don't know or understand or have sensitivity towards discussions and relationships people make off forum. In truth we are a dissparate group of people who are a forum and not really family (even if at times we have that feeling.)

I am genuinely and truly sorry she has caught so much flak from people for doing so. I personally feel she had her heart in the right place when she posted her opening comment. That it was ignored is the responsibility of the person that ignored it though,surely? Obviously that can't be confirmed until her return, but I honestly don't know why you think that was you, cRunchy? That's not my take of everything that's been said :)


Hopefully I never gave flak. I was direct though in voicing that I thought it a bad idea to start a thread saying they were a nurse and inviting us to talk about an issue. (What next? Someone who comes onto the forum and says they are a doctor and invites us to talk about sexual dysfunction or worse and the implications......)

If Puss-In-Boots suffers depression too then that is a good place to start.

Certainly not a knock at you Anniet or meant as anything aggressive toward 'Boots.





@thread topic: I am currently so severely depressed I can't see a way forwards anymore. I come to the boards at the weekends especially, because they're the time very many of my current problems cannot be tackled, and so do so in the hope to turn off my life for a few hours. I even thought at some point, I might be able to contribute something meaningful here that could be useful to others.

But I've now lost count of how many weekend excursions onto the boards in the past couple of months, have made me more miserable than when I started. I'm the only one responsible for that - no one else. I let something go on for too long that I shouldn't have.

The result is one option I initially rejected in favour of trying something less drastic, but I'm now certain it won't work. So I'll opt for the other I think.


Sometimes I think I would love to come and chat on the boards but then I just can't face going back through all my posts and responding.

On one level I am greatfull that the forum keeps on going on regardless (people doing their natural stuff) and what I felt important really wasn't in the grand forum scheme of things...

Anniet. You speak your thoughts and feelings well.

I know depression often has little to do with how we speak but many other issues.

For me you do contribute.

I think myself lucky that this forum has people like you on it.

(I also often wonder why I might be tollerated here.. :)

Anniet. You are part of us you know.
1623) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Depression (Message 1878964)
Posted 19 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
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Begin Conspiracy Theory

Maybe the Russians are putting something in our water.
Or releasing some sort of mood-affecting mist over our cities.

End Conspiracy Theory
[quote]

For years the UK and the US and probably many other countries put alluminium powder in the general drinking water. It certainly helped control bugs but also (for marketing reasons) added brightness to the water.

Altziemers is us :( (Although less so if you smoke cigarettes interestingly.)


[quote]
Seriously, though, there is so much more anger and hate now than there has ever been before. I mean, we old people can remember times when people were much more friendly. You never heard about road rage and other things
like that. Look at how people act on "black Friday." People are likely to start a
physical fight with a stranger over something very small. What's causing all
that? (Or is that too off-topic?)
....


I think the association between "depression" and 'aggression' is unfounded. Don't forget that all those who go the other way and become more passive are often hidden. We tend to see those who are loud and not those who are silent (hidden) even when suffering or experiencing similar issues.

A story I can share is about Plato 2+ thousand years ago.. He writes and moans and groans about 'people today' and 'younger people' being disrespectfull and generally aggressive and rude.

It is a trueism that older people forget what it was like to be younger and biochemically, politically, socially and psychologically become more conservative, less capable of dealing with issues they could or did when they were younger.


But depression - maybe there has always been a lot of depression but it was
hidden because of the stigma, and the denial. Probably.


I think everybody from the begining of broader societal awareness (10 thousand years \ towns etc..) have known about depression but just haven't had the words or understanding to express the best social understanding or approach.

For me (clinical) "depression" is a misfortunate and erroneous term for a large broad spectrum of clinical issues that often have nothing to do with the (colloqial) everyday experience of being low or depressed.

Anyway if Plato was correct (and given we have around 20+ generations since then) by now all of us should be completely evil and have destroyed rather than created.

I for one am glad I live in a world where I can live to at least 70 and probably only because we have clean water, a good range of food, some innoculations and antibiotics...

In Plato's time someone who wasn't wealthy and suffered any form of illness would probably not have seen their 40th birthday.

If people are becoming more untoward and aggressive it suggests that the previous generation was also like that (minus a percentage) and society should have collapsed a long time ago.

If you have ever looked at food types, additives and supply historically us humans have experienced and used you would freak at the life threatening, mind changing chemicals. we have suffered.

You are not off topic if you believe that depression and aggression are linked.

.. but because you mentioned " we old people can remember times" I think the Plato story is apt as he is a really oldie oldie.. which makes you and me youngsters.

The the big questions for people suffering clinical depression (or any form of illness, sufferance or general distress) is why me or what caused this or if i do this or that will I become whole and be cured.

There are always individual success stories but for the majority it will be a struggle.

I say try anything.. but be practical..

Not that I can say I have always been so logical when in distress... Probably the oposite. :(
1624) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Are You Reading? (Message 1878328)
Posted 15 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
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Cecile Pineda: "Face"

Reading it again.

Read it many years ago when a young one but then knew it as "The Mask"

It disturbed me. It mixed both the experience of losing ones physical face (through accident) and only having the lottery to rely on for possible treatment (poor and no national health service) and wanting so much to be loved by the girl he liked who might never look at him as a valid person.

I never forgot this book because of the impossibility of the situation and because it was really well written from behind the eyes of the main character.

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1625) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Depression (Message 1878316)
Posted 15 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
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.......Crystal Light Fruit Punch.

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It's this, two packets per 2 gallons of water, usually the size I get has 6 packets inside the container.


It's packaging is quite pink just like your avatar Zoom :)~

Totally full of chemicals, processed and dehydrated fruit n stuff.

Much like most vitamin & mineral tablets sold as (general \ mental) health beneficial.

I hope you don't drink too much..

It could send you on a crazy rampage..

Looks quite delicious actually.

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1626) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1878301)
Posted 14 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
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Stardust

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1627) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Depression (Message 1878298)
Posted 14 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.......Crystal Light Fruit Punch.


What's that?

Sounds interesting.
1628) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Depression (Message 1878297)
Posted 14 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I think the foods we're consuming these days are contributing to a lot of the anger, hate,
and rudeness that we're seeing. ....


Interesting argument.

... but just to be counter courant (again :)...

Certain areas of America (and the world) have higher water table levels of Lithium and therefore drinking water and natural foods are saturated.

In all those areas there are far fewer people in prisons because of aggressive or violent acts!

Certain foods that are highly processed, for example tinned and plasticated (microwave) foods contain Z\T estrogens which can counteract and alter testosterone causing changes in gender difference and slightly feminising populations (animal or human.) (Feminising traditionally has been suggested the less aggressive.)

I'm a Veggie so eating soya that also has higher estrogen levels might suggest Veggies are more 'gentle' people...

Problem is that most of our foods are soya, plasticated and tinned these days even for meat eaters.

Also there has been an idea around for a long time that depression in part is a genetic response to periods of deprivation or low food supplies.

The idea is that in periods of scarcity we become more depressed like.

Since most of the world (powered by petrol these days) generally has the chance of eating a far greater range of foods than we have for the past million years it suggests we are have a better range of nutrients.

No doubt processed food with high sugar, salt and overcooked contents are not as good for us as natural foods but we now have a better choice of food variety and amount than at any other time in our history.

I suspect that food has little effect on clinical depression except in specific circumstances.

Another example:

It is true that the poor and working class have less money for fresh food and lesser education around eating fresh foods.

If food was an issue then it would suggest that clinical depression or mental health issues were more prevalent in the working classes than in the middle or upper classes. (Or less educated.)

The issue that i would really like to stand up for is this concept that those who suffer depression or mental health might due to this or that concept be more aggressive, or use anger, hate,
and rudeness.

Certainly people who suffer health issues often have to 'speak out' or be 'more forceful' to be heard or respected but the balance of mental health issues means that proportion of those who are aggressive or gentle is mostly the same as those within the healthy population.

Given depression and mental health issues have been documented back as far as ancient Greece and even Egypt and I suspect Mesopotamia and Persia I suspect food is not a causal effect and only plays a small part and certainly not around aggressive behavior.

I have no doubt that food has a real effect in the lives of ALL people regardless of health issues and good food will always benefit the unhealthy.

I also have no doubt that certain plants or derivatives are beneficial at times.

It might be useful when opening up a discussion about depression that we define what it means to us given some will think it about their own negative or emotional feelings and some may be experiencing something medical and some believing something else.

As to me.

I need to eat more greens, less sugar, less soy and dance more.
1629) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Depression (Message 1877892)
Posted 12 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
........

Out of courtesy, I responded to questions I was asked here. If the most prolific poster to this thread to date cannot find time nor enough self-respect to do likewise, but can, to belittle not only myself, my husband, my work and my ability to do what is not a job to me, but a calling, again I do not care.

I will repeat:...................



Puss In Boots.

You referred back to my post and kind of added far more.

Please don't get upset with me.

A thread opening up a chance for people to talk about depression is a good thing.

That I suggested that we be cautious not to take someone who states they are a nurse \ professional and wants to help us talk about depression I believe is also a good thing.

I simply asked if you were suffering depression. I don't believe I have been a prolific poster to this thread or belittled your husband, your work or your ability to do what is not a job but a calling to you.

I only posted once (twice now) and never did any belittling.

There is a real issue with professionals (nurses et al) who end up suffering mental health issues but because their training (mind set), lack of understanding or acceptance from other professionals or general disbelief that someone who might know could suffer the same they never get the help they need or accept they need.

I never spoke with disrespect to you. I spoke caution.

I will speak it again.

I do not believe anyone who suffers a mental health illness should simply trust someone who tell us they are a nurse and tells us they have specialist knowledge or skills.

I could tell you I trained as a councillor and in social psychology post-graduate and all... but what would that mean?

In the cafe our titles are secondary and mostly unimportant. Our good humour and personal honesty is worth far more... At least I hope :o)

So do you suffer a mental health disorder?

........
. It is no surprise that I am now the subject of a smear campaign,


If that is so then speak to the mods.

If the mods think I have been rude or untoward then given mental health is an important issue I ask them to refer my posts to Berkeley's Psychology Department.

1 in 4 of us will suffer clinical mental health issues for an extended period in our lives and will require professional help. (Not from a forum but from our local doctors or supporters.)

Probably most of us will have at least 2 years on and off through out our live in which we suffer issues of problematical but recoverable everyday (colloquial) depression or mental health issue.

I think I am right in always suggesting that whatever the issue we always look to those we can stand in front of and not to a forum for proper help.

That doesn't discount any idea that talking about issues on internet forums have value.

Sometimes it is a place to let off steam or find the right words to express what is going on...

... but non of us however qualified in our own sphere should allow ourselves to seem a guru when actually the issues of a person should be met personally locally..

Sorry. I just don't believe it is a good thing to state yourself a professional on a forum amongst people who might be vulnerable.

(Which hospital or university or licensing body had licensed you to promote yourself as a nurse or mental health worker to engaged or work with the mentally ill on the SETI forums?)
1630) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1877865)
Posted 11 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
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Stories

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1631) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1877855)
Posted 11 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
futures
1632) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1877565)
Posted 9 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
levy

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1633) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Depression (Message 1876099)
Posted 1 Jul 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
This thread is for promoting understanding, not perpetuating stigma. Please remember when posting.
I have no specialist knowledge other than a career in general nursing. If you've suffered from it, are suffering currently, or know someone who is, your knowledge will be superior to mine and welcomed. If by posting here, you become the recipient of unpleasant personal messages or receive one about someone else, either call it out here, or PM* me. Thanks.
Hayley

* I hope that is a sufficient deterrent to anyone considering doing so


Because you only have posted 57 times in two years and you state you are a nurse yet not telling us your interest or connection to depression or mental health disorders and because you ask people to PM you as abitor (that is the community's and mod's job...) ... I need to ask why this post?

What does it mean to you?

I am suprised you stated you are a nurse then forgave yourself as being a nurse and not knowing much about mental health issues.

Do you suffer from depression?

Honesty is required....

Are you currently working as a nurse? Which hospital?

Most of the nurses I know are overworked.

It is not an easy job.

Being depressed is also a hideously hard job.


(As a member of the SETI community for some time I ask people who have mental health issues or are vunerable (clinicaly or otherwise) do not post personal issues to this thread or share personal information with anyone other than those they have a longsstanding relationship with.)
1634) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1875876)
Posted 30 Jun 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
apples

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1635) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Summertime Beasties (Message 1875808)
Posted 30 Jun 2017 by Profile cRunchy
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I dread to think what they are doing to my loft though... Perhaps I will get honey dripping through my ceiling. :))


Do you have access to that space? It might be a good idea to investigate.


The loft hatch is sort of diagonally opposite to the area the bees live so I would need to crawl across the rafters some 10 meters+?

That would be crawl over the stupid landlords un-sealed blocks of fibre-glass insulation that give off particles and stick in everything including eyeballs and lungs.

I am not really too concerned about a bee colony (especially if they are hard enough to find a place amongst the fibre-glass) living up above.

2 properties ago I lived in the top flat (apartment?) and there was a wasp colony.

The darn beasts weren't satisfied swarming from the roof \ loft acroos the local area but would come down the cavity walls and find ways out where the electric sockets hadn't been properly plastered in as well as the wall vents.

I was stung quite a few times just rolling over in bed.

In the end I put on some rubber gloves, covered my head and face with a dampened cloth and stuck my hand into the loft hatch and expelled a whole can of fly \ wasp killer.

1 day later I went up to look.

I was ashamed. there were hundreds upon hundreds of wasp bodies scattered about.

I went up into the loft and at the gable end was an enourmous (now dead) hive structure.

Probably had been building for several years. 1.5 metres across 2 metres high and third of a metre deep.

It was a kind of mix of swirled milky coffee and toffee colour.

Beautiful and complex. It looked like something H.R. Giger might have drawn ('Alien').

Took 6 black bin bags to remove and I sprayed the wall with a mix of white spirits and bleach to ward off any new colony.

... But I will never forget that carpet of dead wasp bodies... They may be insects but still :(

Also I think my bee colony is quite small atm.

I'm no bee keeper but I think after this year I am going have to build a box near their inlet and "worry" them into moving home...

I do like watching them coming home though... heavily laden, wibbly in flight and all gimbled out .

(I'll be talking to them next... <eek.>)

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1636) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1875802)
Posted 30 Jun 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
naughty-box

(and Carlos owes 10+1 words worth for telling off our Admiral ;)~ )
1637) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Summertime Beasties (Message 1875754)
Posted 29 Jun 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
A week on and I haven't seen the same activity again.

The bees come and go at a rate of one or two every 15 minutes.

5 days ago I watched a string of wasps go in and out of the same roof overhang area through a small hole the bees don't use.

I suspect they were stealing nectar or grubs.

I haven't seen the wasps for the last 3 days... so probably a raid.

The bees are getting rather fat.

I live in a bungalow (one story) and their inlet is right next to my back door and kitchen window.

They never venture into my home (well almost) and I can happily stand outside under their flight path (about 1+ foot above my head) and they dont care..

I went looking for the bodies of the bees doing their strange circle dance the day after but couldn't find any. (Could have easily been lost in the shale \ stones.)

The one thing I did not mention is that all the bees were moving in an anti-clockwise motion.

Again I assumed that they had fallen from the nest \ hive (as they were \ looked young - not bumblish) or had come back after working and had fallen short.

I live in a metropolitan area but my city is rather green so bees (and wasps) are not a strange sight. These ones are darker \ browner than the traditional British yellow \ black concept.

I wish I could have filmed them.

janneseti's thought about bee communication methods..

The circle dance is how bees communicate with each other to show the direction were to find more pollen.
Usually they do that in a bee hive.


... may explain their syncronicity and some other factor (like collecting pollen from a small group of contaminated plants) might explain why they did not make the hive and ended up as a small group..

their motions of circle dancing in an anti-clockwise motion outside of the hive on the ground (the last place they could physically be) might just be instinct.

The anti-clockwise motion though of 'all' those bees on the ground is interesting!?

It made me think of the Coriolis effect (earth spin \ magnetic stuff...) but unsure?

Anyways I watch the bumbles come into land through my kitchen window come into land in the small area in the roof overhang and it reminds me of fat carrier planes wafted by the wind but determined to land..

I'm getting an affection for these guys.

I dread to think what they are doing to my loft though... Perhaps I will get honey dripping through my ceiling. :))
1638) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Summertime Beasties (Message 1874647)
Posted 23 Jun 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
OK. I want to see if someone here know about bees.. but the thread is open to any discussion about your summer time beasties and creatures.

My Bees...

About a week ago we had a temporate day and as I was looking out of my kitchen window I noticed a bee on the rocks and stones in my yard. It kept walking around in a circle.

(I first noticed it at noon and the hero was still going at it a 8pm!?)

I thought Ok - It's dying and can't fly so is following around and around it's own pheremones.

Shortly afterward I noticed another bee on the shale walking in a 8-10 inch circle.

After that another bee came to my eye on a mound of soil doing exactly the same.

After than another bee appeared on the shale repeating the same motion in the same direction..

I suspect these bees were on their way home. One other thought is that they all collected pollen from the same area that might have been treated with insectocide?

I have a bee's nest in the roof overhang of my home.

Origionally back in March I thought they might be wasps because they were really skinny. They have fattened up since then so I get fat bumble bees and some less bumblish \ slim brown bees coming in and out of the overhang next to my back door.

The guys (or gals) rotating on the ground were the slimmer type.

The thing I am interested in is the behaiviour or reason as to their circle dance.. (I doubt my bees are old enough to remember new romantic music..)

Anyone know things about bees?
1639) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1874529)
Posted 22 Jun 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
champ
1640) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link Discussion Thread IV (Message 1874524)
Posted 22 Jun 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


dandelion > canines ???.[

Dant (teeth) De (of) Lion (Lion)...

DantDeLion...


<slow clap for attempted explanation wiggle-out>

I believe it has to be an English word.


:)

I love English. Not because it is better than any other language but because like many other languages it is a living hybrid.

Many of our words are germanic, french, latinium... even a few ancient greek, arabic, persian, hindi and the odd chinese and african word.

I do agree that forum should be in general english or at least words should be easily discoverable. Though I would never hold to that as there are billions who do not speak english well and why deny them the joy of joining SETI or BOINC.

Anyway dandelions are weeds in england but they have big french \ latin lions teeth ;) ~
1641) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link Discussion Thread IV (Message 1873061)
Posted 15 Jun 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Crunchy was several hours late in his entry - several more had been posted after the one he responded to, so he owes everyone a few drinks.



Oi you. It's not fair to talk to about someone who doesn't read this thread..

cRunchy is never late.. He knew what you were going to say what you didn't know before you said it.

dandelion > canines ???.


Dant (teeth) De (of) Lion (Lion)...

Mamals sticking out teeth including cats, human, dogs etc are canines...

DantDeLion...

.. and I am not cRunchy..

I'm his butler :)
1642) Message boards : Politics : Terrorist Attacks (Message 1873055)
Posted 15 Jun 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
............. SNIP.........

LEFTY LOONIES equals Political OBLIVION
GOoD Bye KKKryBABY KKKOMMIE Weepin'WHACKO KKKLOWNS
HELLO ALL RIGHT Yappin'


I don't really like the politics forum.

Sometimes I come here when a national or international issue happens to look, see or think about or express what it is to be me as human, hear what others feel and if possible add the best of me or just find my best voice.

Beyond the agora, to pole or speak is just SHOUTING and aggression.
1643) Message boards : Politics : Vikings - rise and fall - the first greatness of the Nordic region (Message 1873045)
Posted 15 Jun 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Yes Vikings. Apes with horns.. > :)~


The myth of Viking horned helmets started in the 19th century.



Yes but devils always had horns.. (Circa 3000- BC..) :)

.
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1644) Message boards : Politics : Vikings - rise and fall - the first greatness of the Nordic region (Message 1873034)
Posted 15 Jun 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The wif of Bath..

In my local extended family we give birth to more females than males yet the males tend to outlive the women often by 10 years.. (I suspect we drive our women so crazy they just want to escape to halvalla..)

From the primary now culture of Britain and Christian and Muslim traditions there is a tendency to negate the social or political position of our women or the feminine.

The issue I have is that whenever we have women who rise they tend to seem rather 'right wing'or 'hard' in persona. (Perhaps that is the only choice.)

In virtually every culture though there are strong souls male or female.

I prefer to celebrate those whom however prefer to just be without side as they are the builders and creators.

Yes Vikings. Apes with horns.. > :)~

Just messy people like the rest of us humans....

.
1645) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1873009)
Posted 15 Jun 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
canines

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1646) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1872685)
Posted 13 Jun 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
voyeur
1647) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1871470)
Posted 6 Jun 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
puss


(.. yuck .. better out than in though .. hey..;/)
1648) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1871448)
Posted 6 Jun 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
static
1649) Message boards : Cafe SETI : intergalactic quotes 2 (Message 1871441)
Posted 6 Jun 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
"Look round at the courses of the stars, as if thou were going along with them; and constantly consider the changes of the elements into one another; for such thoughts purge away the filth of the terrene life."

:: Romulan Imperator Varcus Aurelius:
:: Star date: 161-180


(From his lost annals and meditations on purging oneself of Earthling life forms, their dirty habits and the effects of vulgar Rap and su-Rock on Romulan youth.)

Wisdom for sure.
1650) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1871404)
Posted 6 Jun 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
David

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1651) Message boards : Politics : Terrorist Attacks (Message 1871045)
Posted 4 Jun 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
As to terrorist Swedish and Viking volk.. ... snip... ..


For heavens sake cRunchy!
That was more than a thousand years ago.
And the Vikings at that time was about 300 thousand "strong"
Almost everyone was a farmer!
Why do you think we share so much in language?

BTW There is no word like "Viking volk"
And who was the William the Conquer?
Yes. A VIKING!

And "Swedish" Vikings never went west.
No, They went to what is now Russia, Ukraine and Turkey.

Do you know what a Viking is?
I know that YOU don't know!!!!

BACK TO TOPIC!


I have quite a strong genetic ancestory with viking folk both via the invasions in northern england (my father's family) and later through norman heritage (both mother and father's histories).. (The family tree is near 1100 years properly connected and named individuals and beyond that another 300 years properly connected family names and locations.) <In his old age my father is the keeper and researcher of the records. i will ask him if we have Swedish genes.. Who knows I might even be related to you.>

.. and yes it was a long time ago but I was on topic....

If you missed the specific point then it was that 'terror' is something we have all been involved in or as owners of our heritage should own up to. ... because if we don't understand what we have done or we have allowed our societies to do we sure as hell will never be able to fix the issues that need fixing...

As to farmers I am sure that any 'muslim', 'american', 'british' or 'any volk' terrorist are most likely to be farmers (not so much now :)) or factory workers or those who mostly come from common backgrounds.

The concept of terrorists being 'intellectuals' in a modern age of broad education is a misnoma. (Even in poor countries you can be a peasant farmer \ factory worker and still get an education.)

Terrorism has existed for thousands of years.

The normal inane reaction is for people to react, be terrorised and become jingoistic..

Rather than get into agruement perhaps I should ask in a more open and human way: Have you experience a terrorist act yourself?
1652) Message boards : Politics : Terrorist Attacks (Message 1871015)
Posted 4 Jun 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Looks like another Terrorist attack in London.
>:-(

Yes:(
http://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-40147014
I was just talking to my sister living in Liverpool before this breaking news!


I spoke to my sister and nephews in London tonight too.

I find it amazing that the police would create a riotius situation and proclaim 'Terrorist Attack' so early on without any evidence except an assumed similarity to a man with a van.

Voting in Britain happens next week. Fear or 'Terrorism' (and interestingly an increase in 'animal' storries in right wing press) teand to increase right wing \ conservative votes.

Terrorism is something you do to yourself not the so called terrorists.

You can't be terrorised if you know the nature of a thing. (If you are honest about your part either by commision or ommision.)

It's about time we realised that in our complacent fruitful lives we are not blameless.

As to terrorist Swedish and Viking volk.. You terrorised my country for hundred of years.. and mostly for petty gold and booty... and we gave you no cause...

Now that is real terrorism..

People with a political or correct gripe don't terrorise me.

That we have not resolved these issues makes me feel ashamed.

However. Yes. All acts of violence, hatered, wanten destruction, harm or death or intent should always be treated by our police and courts with the highest concern.

Terrorism only works when you are terrorised.

(Of course if any part of our live is gained by the exploitation of others then you have no real right to complain..)
1653) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1870982)
Posted 3 Jun 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
skinheads

(Well oldie, toothless, hairy ones anyway.. Brits: Owners of the 4th largest ecconomy ;(~
1654) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1870652)
Posted 2 Jun 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
flatulence

. oops. It's all that hard tak, weavils n limes me Admiral.. oooo rumbles... We stand ready me lord n.. but somebody really needs to clean that poop deck :(...
1655) Message boards : Politics : Would you want to live forever? (Message 1870637)
Posted 2 Jun 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I suspect that on this planet at the moment the majority average lifespan for those healthy but not in impoverished or hostile environments is perhaps 70-ish years max?

I couldn't imagine living beyond that with a body and brain that will just keep getting more and more degraded and knackered.

There is a point at which the balance between the hunger for life and the pain or exhaustion of life tips.

If I was doing magical thinking however and thought science would be able to keep me healthy and sufferance free OR my body died and my soul would live on then yes I would like to go on forever..

.. but I would hate to float up to heaven and ponce around with wings or live a petty unimportant physical life just living..

For me a better question would be: 'If you could live forever how would you stop yourself falling into complacency and insane futility..'

Does anyone remember the movie Zardos?

.. but yes I would like to live for the rest of forever as long as it had challenge and the potential of worth..

In that sense even though 70 years is brief and full of challenge it suggests we have already lived a crappy form of forever.

To do the Riddick thing.. 'We all start somewhere.'

The purpose of life is life. It cares nothing for you or I or our concepts, ideas, feelings or sensibilities.

Life passes through us and is a thread that enables us to be and ask such difficult and interesting questions and then casts us off as it throws up more of it's interesting and annoying creative moments.

I neither want to continue into 'oneness' or nirvana or into old age and it's general crumblyness, nor do I wish a forever of bland foreverness.

As to the issue of ending stay, self termination, suicide or self euthanasia... I think that given we all know we die at some point a life that is not lived fearless of it's end is a life that never really ends.

Awareness of mortality is painfull.

Good thread \ question Bob DeWoody...

It's not really a 'politics' forum question but an any forum thought.

To make it more SETI.. I would love to go to Mars.. even if there was no return.. as long as I could have a couple of years... For me that would be worth an eternity..

Forever is a moment transfixed and our natural will to life unbound..
1656) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1870609)
Posted 1 Jun 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
thermals

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1657) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1869859)
Posted 27 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
univeresal-steel

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1658) Message boards : Politics : Manchester UK Bomb (Message 1869466)
Posted 26 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Nothing is fool proof in eliminating these modern threats, but addressing the root causes of the complaints is necessary...

The 'root cause' of Islamist Extremism, as Nazism and other Evil Movements. Is not poverty, nor any Social Injustice.

It is the Islamist Extremist belief that they have a God Given Obligation to Convert all humans to their beliefs.

Those that do not convert. They have a God Given Obligation to murder them.

The only 'root cause' of any Evil and Murdering Movement. Be it Secular or Religious. Is their individual personal internal evil.


I was suprised that Manchester would be a target. It's not really a candidate for any form of targetted attack of some political nature.

I remember when the IRA (financed by the USA) use to target my city for terrorist action.

I think Americans are somewhat bereft of people to be angry with since the old cold war communists are no longer there.

I have perhaps a more stoic approach to such destructions, threats and sufference.

It is not beyond my own society's politicians just pior to an election to capitalise on incidents to gain leverage from fear for those extra votes.

Americans in a way are lucky in their mind set. They are the invaders and have never been invaded.

Us Brits, Europeans and Arabics, Indians, Chinese, Africans et-al from the oldy world... well we can react but in honesty our only choice is to try to create a better future... and if we groan we lose.

The language of hate or anger or lack of understanding tends to include words like "them, others, individuals, evil, blah blah blah..."

Just as a note.. If you think this was an individual act then by definition it was not a terrorist act.

During the second world war a vast amount of personal wealth (including Fascist wealth) was transfered over to America along with those individuals who could pay to get out.

I find it sad that America in the loss of it's old hate in the USSR now desires a new hate in Muslims.

Often when devestation happens the words that those who react are the same words the harmfull use.

For Manchester we stand.
1659) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are you listening to? (Message 1869452)
Posted 26 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul9RONm6-T4
1660) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are you listening to? (Message 1869451)
Posted 26 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
....
Punk Inuit throat singerTanya Tagaq from Canada.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dumvYzfuT0w#t=1m30s


Well found janneseti.

A punkette for sure. Bizaar. Willingness to shift boundaries.

I found it quite an aggreesive piece of perfomance art.

(I suspect it was meant to involke disturbance in the viewer.)

Perhaps we are getting a glimpse of your mind janneseti.

Colud you imagine if she was a seller of delicious icecreams in a van...

The kids would be quaking in their shoes...

I like it. I hate it :)

Canadians. Too good to be American and too shy to be British :)))
1661) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1869440)
Posted 25 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Passion



Carlos :o)~


(Hey.. To Be A Soul...)
1662) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Recipes and Food II (Message 1869088)
Posted 24 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I may be wrong but I suspect the allowable (and accepted) percentage of hormones and mastitis puss in milk (cheese) is far higher in America.

The Food and Drug Administration, the FDA, does not know how antibiotics are used in farms. The agency collects data on sales and distribution but has not been able to check practical use or how much doses are given and how long an animal is eating antibiotics.


I don't know about the FDA. I do know there are differences between America and the EU (and sepratist UK) around milk.

It is a good job America has Berkeley. All the FDA needs to do is milk a few cows and send a pint to any University lab and I suspect they would know exactly the levels of antibiotics and hormones and mastitis \ puss and blood in their product.

Even in England every so often you can taste the bovine in our milk even though it is pasteurised and probably a little more controlled.

Personally I am looking forward to the off chance that I might become a mad cow..

I can go rolling my eyes and fall around in fields. Most of the food companies and politicians will say I'm far better than normal and then give the owner of my field extra money to come paint the grass even greener...

(A number of years ago a royal came to visit my city and the nut bags at the top actually ordered the painting of various grass areas green... ;/ )

As to recipies and milk. I loved Junket as a child but it's a pain to make as a vegetarian.
1663) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1869077)
Posted 24 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Fatima

/|!|\

.
1664) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Recipes and Food II (Message 1869052)
Posted 24 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The grubby finger adds flavour and texture - unless you are veggie in which case :-(


I've never tried Smarties or M&Ms on a pizza, must give it a go some day!


No. We must never let those little cheeky digits get away with anything even if they are naughty adult paws.

Grubby fingers are an acceptable veggie snack.

In fact they make up a good part of our diet.

.. Toasted Smarties.. Caramalised and hot gooey choco centre.... and cheese...

... Mmmmm.
1665) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Recipes and Food II (Message 1869049)
Posted 24 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I prefer to make my own pizzas using pita bread as the base.

Cheers.


Good call.

I use shop bought nan breads. Top them with bits and shove 'em under the grill.

The little creatures in my life love them.. because they can add anything they like.

Mind you a smartie, cheese, doll's broken foot and grubby finger pizza can be a little hard to stomach sometimes..
1666) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Recipes and Food II (Message 1869044)
Posted 24 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
To give yo an idea of the difference in ingredients between a cheap US and a cheap UK pizza .... .... ...


One of the interesting (if you are a perverse veggie like me ;) ) things is that food laws in the US and Europe (UK-ish) allow for a different description to cheese and quality of milk.

I may be wrong but I suspect the allowable (and accepted) percentage of hormones and mastitis puss in milk (cheese) is far higher in America.

You might think this is horrid but what it means is that American cheese Pizzas are far richer in hidden complex ingredients

I am in a general sense a Veggie but in reality you can't be a vegetarian if you eat fish, eggs or milk. (I do the milk thing.)

Fish, eggs and milk are animals. Well milk is not an animal but it is the product of injecting animals with hormones or killing the baby animals that would otherwise drink the milk we love to steal.

I've never eaten an America shop bought pizza. I'm sure they are wonderful.


Is a pizza or pasta Italian?

Can a recipe be traditional if parts of its ingredients are not native?

In England most see 'Chip Shop Chips' (fried potatoe chips softened in their own steam in paper wrap, perhaps with salt and vinegar) as traditional.

Potatoes are South American.??

A traditional Friday night treat in England should actually be fried turnip slices and battered red squirells with a splash of quince sauce..

food.. who needs it .:)~
1667) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1869011)
Posted 24 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Minute
1668) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are you listening to? (Message 1868563)
Posted 21 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Listening to:

Throat in the deep. Tibetan Stylie ;)

.. and..
.
1669) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1868554)
Posted 21 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
B
L
O
B



(It be big and hairy and I be afraid of it..)
1670) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1868511)
Posted 21 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Us
1671) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1868499)
Posted 20 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
More-Than
1672) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1868485)
Posted 20 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Habitat
1673) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1868479)
Posted 20 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
elysium
1674) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1867662)
Posted 17 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
tightly
1675) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1867641)
Posted 17 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
flesh
1676) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New Phone Scam. Pretending to be a telemarketer from a resort. (Message 1867628)
Posted 17 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Nonsense, good customer service is very good marketing and does increase business it's a win, win situation.

+1



Actually if you have a good product in the first place you hardly need customer services.

To suggest we need good customer services as an aspect of very good marketing probably means we sell cruddy products and need to advertise hard and appoliogise long.

If we are interested in win win. We transact the right quality needed item for the right price.

We should rarely need customer services.

You all do non-sequiters...

To have a busy customer services dept is not a badge of honour. It's a badge about how useless your items are...

Or about how useless your customers are :-)~
1677) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1867611)
Posted 17 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
marmalade


.
1678) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1867251)
Posted 14 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
perky



(Ahoy me Jack Tars don't let your baggywrinkles flap too loose. They chaff you know. ;-)~
1679) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1867206)
Posted 14 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Iranians :)
1680) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1867168)
Posted 13 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
firefighting
1681) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : We Are All Explorers. (Message 1867167)
Posted 13 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Join a SETI \ BOINC team and the find camaraderie.


In 'The Final Front Ear' we love exploring whilst enjoying a good cup of tea, a slice of cake, and doing a funny walk.


Join us.
1682) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1867153)
Posted 13 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Air-Raid
1683) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 92 (Message 1866726)
Posted 11 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
attraction
1684) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New Phone Scam. Pretending to be a telemarketer from a resort. (Message 1866675)
Posted 11 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
On the issue of Russian saw on the news today a story about Kaspersky total security. Kaspersky is a Russian company. The story suggested that it could be a Russian government plot to infiltrate US computers. So how many of us have used Kaspersky anti-virus? Has this been a scam all along?


Those evil Russians hey.

I recently had an incident where I was asked to re-sign a data-share form as the service had just put our private data into an online system.

I refused to sign unless the organisation was able to tell me whether the data transmitted would not be bounced outside of the UK.

As is the nature of the internet it is quite easy for our packets of data to be routed and bounced outside of our national juristictions.

By doing so it breaks our local data protection laws as our privacy becomes vunerable.

This is extreemly true if data is passed through any US server given the Patriot Act and the US's anti PGP stance. (US government insistance on it's right to unpack individuals information.)

Take a look at Microsoft. They jumped on the Android band waggon with Windows 10. Operating systems that openly allow the silent uploading of private data.

Evil snoopers everywhere ;-)~
1685) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Photographs by Setizens - Originals only - any subject (Message 1866672)
Posted 11 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Excellent capture Gnu.

I think you (and j mercer with 'Spider Tree') have an eye for those moments in the nook.

Private and personal wonderments.

The glint of a thing that engrossed our fascination when we were young.... and can grab us still if we let ourselves notice.

Magic garden moments.

Thank you.
1686) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1866666)
Posted 11 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
nod-off


(climb the wooden hill...)
1687) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1866658)
Posted 11 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
wander


(in your wonder.)
1688) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1866651)
Posted 11 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Fabulous
1689) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1865943)
Posted 7 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
sheath
1690) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1865937)
Posted 7 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Shirt
1691) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1865898)
Posted 6 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
shack

.
1692) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1865648)
Posted 5 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
being
1693) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1865637)
Posted 5 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
moron :o)

(On Less Is Oft More!?... )
1694) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1865617)
Posted 4 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
object
1695) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1865611)
Posted 4 May 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Sale
1696) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1864612)
Posted 29 Apr 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
peace
1697) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1863822)
Posted 26 Apr 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
waves ~^v^~

~
1698) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1862829)
Posted 22 Apr 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
grass

(I mean common and various - not the naughty kind ;)~.

.
1699) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1862781)
Posted 21 Apr 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Prominent
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1700) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1862745)
Posted 21 Apr 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
teller

.
1701) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1862268)
Posted 18 Apr 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
first-kiss

(Eternity Lasts Only For Those Lost In The Never.)
1702) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1862229)
Posted 18 Apr 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Excuses

Not My Fault - Someone Else Did It
1703) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The continuing of life's adventures of the kittyman. (Message 1861749)
Posted 15 Apr 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

And I thank you for those kind thoughts.
And the admonishment.


You were not admonished.

I find it astonishing that I can converse with another.

.
1704) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1861740)
Posted 15 Apr 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
woad

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1705) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The continuing of life's adventures of the kittyman. (Message 1861739)
Posted 15 Apr 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
And I have thought long and hard about this before posting.................
And the following applies to all here...................
You have all, or most of you, simply dismissed me as an idiot.......................

:)

Perhaps you shouldn't think so hard or long.

I don't think you are an idiot and I suspect others here feel the same.

You are a difficult soul at times.

.. but please don't tell us what we think.

:)~

.
1706) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1861732)
Posted 15 Apr 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
umber

.
1707) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1861312)
Posted 13 Apr 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Bolt
1708) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1861293)
Posted 13 Apr 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Rabbit

(You hippy Admiral :).
1709) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1861267)
Posted 13 Apr 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
blush.

(Oh me. Oh my.)
1710) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1860886)
Posted 11 Apr 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
yestermorrow
1711) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1859974)
Posted 7 Apr 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Frankenstein
1712) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1859928)
Posted 7 Apr 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
mispriced

.
1713) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1859922)
Posted 7 Apr 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Dirt
1714) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1859906)
Posted 7 Apr 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
boil
.
1715) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Well I never (Message 1859900)
Posted 7 Apr 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Oh Miggins I've missed you.

What can I say to convince you to forget all your other lovers...

.. and marry me?

I have a life times supply of raspberry tarts and oodles of cream :)

Miggins you are my type of woman.
1716) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1859898)
Posted 6 Apr 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
neuter

.
1717) Message boards : Cafe SETI : So then....... (Message 1859895)
Posted 6 Apr 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I've been saving my credits so I can be on the first flight into the unknown. :)
1718) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1858369)
Posted 30 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Contortion
1719) Message boards : Cafe SETI : If I get your goat :) (Message 1858333)
Posted 29 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...

Make sure it's in the upright position so all the luck doesn't drain out.


Oops ;/
1720) Message boards : Cafe SETI : If I get your goat :) (Message 1858321)
Posted 29 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
"Wise old owl".

In europe the idea is that an owl allways keeps one eye open - so is aware and therefore wise.

In other places however "Ulu" (Owl) is seen as stupid for keeping one eye closed.

I don't know. I just keep my lucky horse shoe close.

.
1721) Message boards : Cafe SETI : If I get your goat :) (Message 1858319)
Posted 29 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
It's funny that so many idioms are shared all over the world..
....


It's not that strange if we consider that continentally for at least 10,000 years we have been building centres of connection (cities, towns, villages) and trading and migrating between.

I suspect that idioms only survive travel where the environment allows.

'Raining cats and dogs' would not survive as an idiom if transported to an area that had neither cats or dogs...

The idea or meaning however may well survive.
1722) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1858317)
Posted 29 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Nefertum

.
1723) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The continuing of life's adventures of the kittyman. (Message 1857699)
Posted 25 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.....
We are all gonna die.
The sooner some of us can relate to that, the better we can live what we have.
..


They say it is a little maudlin to discuss our death or inevitable human weaknesses.

I say why not try to overcome - and if we can't - then try to live a life worthy of a good future.

Either that or eat loads of doughnuts and pray.

We do die... It's Hideous...
1724) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The continuing of life's adventures of the kittyman. (Message 1857683)
Posted 25 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Days.


Well, in this day and age, that IS special for me..


The older we get the quicker they seem to go.

Although there are special days (like a warm day in the country or on the beach with those we love) that seem still to linger forever.

.
1725) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1857680)
Posted 25 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Needless.

(Sacrifice.)
1726) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1857565)
Posted 25 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Equus

.
1727) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1857545)
Posted 24 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Uncertain - Sea
1728) Message boards : Cafe SETI : If I get your goat :) (Message 1857537)
Posted 24 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I will take that with just a 'pinch of salt'..

Perhaps I might throw a pinch of salt over my shoulder too.

.
1729) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1857534)
Posted 24 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Venus

.
1730) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1856197)
Posted 18 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
induct
1731) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1856050)
Posted 17 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Hither
1732) Message boards : Cafe SETI : If I get your goat :) (Message 1855480)
Posted 14 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
"Blood from a stone.." ???

Where did that come from?

They could have said 'water from the sun or 'cheese from a rock'...

but why blood? or why stone?
1733) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1855443)
Posted 14 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Renewal
.
1734) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Tullio joins the Mod team (Message 1855440)
Posted 14 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
To man the lighthouse and keep a safe harbour for all that travel the open seas is an honerable thing.

Thank you for stepping up Tullio.
1735) Message boards : Cafe SETI : If I get your goat :) (Message 1855431)
Posted 14 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I'm sure Kentucky has it's share of colloquialisms, but I'm drawing a blank right now. We do use "get your goat", but I don't know where that came from. Do you?


To get someones goat or to catch it simply means: To "annoy you" or "be annoyed".....

Not sure where it originated as goats aren't our currency in Britain nowadays but most likely a Mediterranean or Asia \ Africa thing.

As far as I am aware the Judaic tradition has the tradition of laying the sins of the community on a goat and letting it go into the wild (Black Sheep \ Goat?)

Thinking about Greko \ Roman traditions it might mean someone gets your passions going.. As in the goated one.. Pan.. But that might be stretching it.

Anyway if I stole your goat I would get your attention or annoy you if goats were important to you :)

Possibly if I grabbed your beard of goaty it would annoy you equally???

"A bird in the hand is worth three in the bush" is an easier one to understand like "a stich in time saves nine."

.
1736) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1855419)
Posted 14 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Lunar
1737) Message boards : Cafe SETI : If I get your goat :) (Message 1855402)
Posted 14 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Colloquialisms.

Your local or everyday sayings that don't always make immediate sense to others but that you know the meaning of.

Origins, meanings or more sayings...

Explain or better still have fun with kind retort...


I hope I don't get your goat :) ???
1738) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Graphology Of Avatars (Message 1855393)
Posted 13 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
a canceled tv show cliff hanger that i can't get over... it went from meh to epic and got canceled... i need a closure...


Sad that the powers that be never understood the true longevity of Stargate SG1 or Atlantis..

They had become family.. and could have probably lasted forever...

The Universe mob didn't gell. Lots of possible discoveries but too many internally constructed antagonisms as a drama. :(

Have You Ever Seen The Rain.

.
1739) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Graphology Of Avatars (Message 1855390)
Posted 13 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Mine is Moomin Dad.
....


I grew up with the Moomins and Moomin Pappa.

Is that why we are all so nuts now :)~

,
1740) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1855379)
Posted 13 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Just...

.
1741) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1855351)
Posted 13 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Blackpool- Rock

.
1742) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are you listening to? (Message 1854671)
Posted 11 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...
But yodeling is more predominate in Southern States where they like to play Country and Western.


Hehe..

American Germanic yodelers are strange..

Love or hate em.

They spread everywhere...

Just like Marmite :o)~

.
1743) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are you listening to? (Message 1854662)
Posted 11 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Of course, nobody did the yodel better than Julie Andrew, before she lost her voice,.
Nothing like her before or since,.



She's a darling.

.
1744) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are you listening to? (Message 1854660)
Posted 11 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
It's funny that probably there are far more yodeling singers in the US than in Germany.


It's not strange or funny at all.

Regardless of the US TV of the 1970\80's that attempted to show Irish and Italians as a dominant set in the population and police force (Kojak) the largest ethnic group is Germanic in roots.

Strange given our history of the "New World" talks of the British, Spanish and French as colonisers... Yet it is Germans who dominate..

Yodeling isn't only a German thing.. but perhaps current day Americans just can't help themselves.


Must be genetic... ;)
.
1745) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are you listening to? (Message 1854653)
Posted 11 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.......
Uhh, this might scare you even more............
Japanese 'Chicken Yodelling'.
OMG



Oh God.. It's time to run for the hills... . ;)

Here's a girl that yodels..

You yodelers are insane.


.
1746) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are you listening to? (Message 1854650)
Posted 11 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.....
Good folk just having a good time yodeling.
Of which Franzi Lang is the king.


Superb yodeling. Probably the best.

I'm not sure I can cope with Franzi Lang's little hip movements though.

Kind of scares me :)
1747) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are you listening to? (Message 1854647)
Posted 11 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Co-operative Yodeling... Who knew?

<Big gRin>

Tibetan throat music uses harmonics.

<so diRty..>

You sure you were not a native Swiss, American, Mountain Goat, Tibetan, Spanish Yodeler in your last life kittyman?

Tibish Yodeling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUTQ6d7fL2U


A little more throatishly cool (with puckered lips):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1WZSiNceoE

<Who knew..>??
1748) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are you listening to? (Message 1854585)
Posted 11 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Ghastly stuff but important to watch and learn from.
It's from yesterday's ISIS video, officially released by its media & appears to be recorded by surveillance drone.
Do I have to mention that most music is very political?


You don't need to mention. However political or meaningful music most of us as humans don't act on it. If we did we would be in constant turmoil.

.. perhaps in the west we have become so dulled to the noise?

So ISIS now have american surveillance drones.

What next :(

To be honest I think this is all America's thing. It's lost it's old hates. The USSR is gone, China has gone all Comu-Capitalist. All that's left is to get bad-ass with the AyRabs, Muslims and Euro.

Call me when there is something real to fight over. Like a life of wellbeing and hope for all.

I'm listening to Prince Buster on this one .....
1749) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1854568)
Posted 11 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Glass
.
1750) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are you listening to? (Message 1854559)
Posted 11 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Nasheed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ7WafvjEDg


Really. A video about human beings (from whatever side) being blown up and burnt to death?

I doubt that footage was by ISIS as they don't have the tech for that aerial photographic clarity .

I've seen people in absolute suffering and been next to a few whilst they have been dying. It never happened to music or youtube videos.

Sorry. A killing, hate or murder video. Is that a good thing to share?

Justify.
1751) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are you listening to? (Message 1854533)
Posted 10 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Spaced Walking.
1752) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1854498)
Posted 10 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Caligae

.
1753) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Graphology Of Avatars (Message 1854497)
Posted 10 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Both ;-)


Tease!

.
1754) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Graphology Of Avatars (Message 1854495)
Posted 10 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Mine is bright red, which makes it easy to find. It is a cavallino rampante (rampant horse). Properly blazon it would be Gules cavallino rampante Argent. I add in the number of years I have been crunching .


.. It's a champion stalion. With an outward perspective.

From a place of red bloodedness..?

Sanguine?
1755) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Graphology Of Avatars (Message 1854486)
Posted 10 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
....
From left to right, they were Bandit, Tigger II, Purrball, and Squirrel.
Squirrel and Tigger II have since passed on, but Bandit and Purrball are still loving me every day.
....


Clearly focused on their intent. :)~
1756) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Graphology Of Avatars (Message 1854483)
Posted 10 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Mine's just hanging around because it hasn't got anything better to do.



Ah but it's the eyes.

Shining from an upside-down perspective yet mesmerising :)

.
1757) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Graphology Of Avatars (Message 1854480)
Posted 10 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Now Rob Smith.

No avatar. What does that mean?

Perhaps a rebel or maybe a creature with mysteries to be discovered?

.
1758) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Graphology Of Avatars (Message 1853730)
Posted 8 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The avatar looks straight ahead, but I lean to the right!


.. but Seti II leans towards his left :)
1759) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Graphology Of Avatars (Message 1853578)
Posted 6 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
From the perspective of the avatar mine looks towards the right (your left).

Many avatars here (whether faces or otherwise) either are central looking or look towards the left (your right.)

Dissect your own avatar here.

... or dissect the graphology of each other's avatars.. (ignoring what you know about a person but note only what the avatar tells you) ... Be gentle..

You can dissect mine if you like.. for fun :)


1760) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1853570)
Posted 6 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Kowtow
1761) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1853550)
Posted 6 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Socialist

.
1762) Message boards : Cafe SETI : OH, Hello again.......I am back for a while. (Message 1852743)
Posted 4 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...
I was taught to state your business, and be quick about it.
Short, to the point and if I am angry, throw a punch for the exclamation point.
That is what I was taught.


I was taught:

. "If you don't ask you don't get
. and if you ask you don't get."

Not all that teach are wise.

Unlearning is a pain.

I was taught how to tie my shoelaces though :)
1763) Message boards : Cafe SETI : OH, Hello again.......I am back for a while. (Message 1852735)
Posted 4 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
And could somebody teach me how to be nice?
I do not think that is possible at my age.


Don't look at me!

They say age mellows and makes us more diplomatic and wise.

I think it can also make us more cranky and urgent.

You are all a case in point. ;-) <Grin>

.
1764) Message boards : Cafe SETI : OH, Hello again.......I am back for a while. (Message 1852730)
Posted 4 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...............
It matters little.
.........


Every thing matters to those that are aware of a thing.

It is just a matter of how, in what way and how much.

Only those who care (in one form or way or another) respond or react.

Truth belongs to the gods and mathematicians.

The rest of us have to deal in our own honesties. ..

... and of course try to play nicely :)~

.
1765) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1852682)
Posted 4 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Hearth
1766) Message boards : Cafe SETI : OH, Hello again.......I am back for a while. (Message 1852679)
Posted 4 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
OK..........time to clear the air.
...... <snip>......

I hope those that have been around a while and considered me a friend still do so.


We know that you know that we know your humanity and way of being.

You are nuts. :)

The sun shines because it is.

We shine because we can.
1767) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1852073)
Posted 1 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
City
1768) Message boards : Cafe SETI : OH, Hello again.......I am back for a while. (Message 1852070)
Posted 1 Mar 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Life has consequences, ...........
I can live with mine.


Yes.. but can we.. <eek>

With your RAC you have access to at least 200+ quad core home style PCs.

I don't think for a second you work on or personally maintain emergency vehicles.

Though sometimes posts are vehicles for emergencies or perhaps emergent thought.

You are crazy though ;)

(Consequences are sufferd by all of us.)
1769) Message boards : Cafe SETI : OH, Hello again.......I am back for a while. (Message 1851203)
Posted 25 Feb 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
And you, those of you who have never done it.
Have no idea what it is life to wake up not knowing what you have said, what you have done, or who you may have ..............


Just waking up the next day is oft surprise enough.

As to doing things we forget or shouldn't do..... Just don't do it' then ;)~ <Sticking tongue out :)~>
1770) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1851200)
Posted 25 Feb 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
wind
1771) Message boards : Cafe SETI : OH, Hello again.......I am back for a while. (Message 1851144)
Posted 25 Feb 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


Means that we're all really Martians. Makes us a little more exotic.


I prefer the idea that we were already exotic and a wonder and zhen noticed places like Mars.

We all come from somewhere.
1772) Message boards : Cafe SETI : OH, Hello again.......I am back for a while. (Message 1851121)
Posted 25 Feb 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I just don't understand women, and the most of the rest of humakind.
Never did, never shall.


Ok you don't understand women or 'men' (who are the rest of humankind by the way.. - Unless you includes apes and football players :))

I assume you are a man! (I know you are.)

So you don't understand humankind as a totality or yourself.

Welcome to the world.

You are on a mad one kittyman..

Be genntle with us.
1773) Message boards : Cafe SETI : OH, Hello again.......I am back for a while. (Message 1851111)
Posted 25 Feb 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
KId, I am far older than yourself.
And when you accuse me of...........

.......Stand down, son.


Being older than others or than we were once also means knowing how to be gentle and calm in a conflict.

It's a thought.

I wish I could always follow it.

Stand softly.
1774) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1851103)
Posted 24 Feb 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Pilgrimage \ Haj
1775) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Are You Reading? (Message 1850421)
Posted 21 Feb 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Café SETI forums.


Oh Admiral.

You spoilt my image of you now.

I always imagined your evenings bent over an ol' sailor's almanac with a tot of warm rum in hand ploting your next voyage!


:)~
1776) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1850330)
Posted 21 Feb 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Qi (Chi)

æ°”
1777) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Are You Reading? (Message 1850324)
Posted 21 Feb 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
These days I never read whole books or tracts but the things I am reading and looking to gain insight in to are:

    Candace Pert - Stuff including: 'Your Body is Your Subconscious Mind .' (I like her assertions about the reciprocal nature of brain, body, cell.)

    Python (Programming Lang): Stuff about simple data constructs and fuzzy connections.

    Setting up a free (no advert) blog.: Research for a friend who is developing a local community project.



Can't always name a book or source. For me reading now is more an open path.

The rest of my reading is just as messy :)

To be able to read is an amazing gift.

1778) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1850314)
Posted 21 Feb 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Asymmetric

>|'-
1779) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who crunches near us? (Message 1850312)
Posted 21 Feb 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
small coastal town on the Mediterranean sea, in a country called Lebanon, unwillingly located in the worst neighborhood on planet Earth.


At this moment in time not an easy place to be.

(Lebanon. Historically not easy either. A place of crossed roads and political cross minds. :( )

Giving you a wave from the UK.

cRrunchy
1780) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1849348)
Posted 17 Feb 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Succulent


melty buttery coby dripping chin-ness..... Don't tease....
1781) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who crunches near us? (Message 1849346)
Posted 17 Feb 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
..........If people wish to divulge that by pm, or preferably by email, that is up to them.


No expectations in this thread other than the chance to let each other know roughly where abouts we are in our countries.

Exact and personal information should always be reserved for those we know or trust. (I agree with you and Bernie.)

I live a little bit more north in my city since we spoke last Chris.

I'm now north brum in a royal township.. :) I became posh without knowing it...

Please adjust all connections to me by about 10 miles and polish your boots as we are favoured by our Majesty

So Lucky.
1782) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rest in peace Wingdi.. (Message 1849342)
Posted 17 Feb 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
It is a sadness that we see people pass from our community.

As a community we don't always know each other.

... the best amongst us we will never know because they will do regardless.

Jeroen. You belong to us and we belong to you.

Sleep well.
1783) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1849336)
Posted 17 Feb 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Dark-energy


Maze.



-Lucifer (Opposite of Lux, fair star and Venus.. I'm groping to find a word that means..) May you always have light in those dark places where you must travel..
1784) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who crunches near us? (Message 1849282)
Posted 17 Feb 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The kitties and I live......
Just a few hundred miles north of Milwaukee,.


Hey.. We are practically siblings..

I live a few thousand miles from Milwaukee.

Do you have Viking blood in you too ?

> :)
1785) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1849279)
Posted 17 Feb 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Dark_Matter?

.
1786) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1849208)
Posted 17 Feb 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Warts

.
1787) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who crunches near us? (Message 1849206)
Posted 17 Feb 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I live in Middle Earth.

Tolkien country.

Midlands. UK.
1788) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who crunches near us? (Message 1849167)
Posted 16 Feb 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Not sure where else to put this question:

Where do I find stats about how many people are crunching for SETI and / or BOINC projects in my locality?

If I wished to promote a meet for local BOINCers or fellow local SETIzens where should I post?





(I still hate this mocha / choca theme.. Please give me back simple black on white... Bootstrap was never meant as a noose...)
1789) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1849153)
Posted 16 Feb 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
mandrake


(sorry gross wiff :(..)
1790) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1848374)
Posted 12 Feb 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Samovar
1791) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1848053)
Posted 11 Feb 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.
Horology
.

(In remeberance of my Cuckooing , Chiming, Ticking Clock Maker Grand Father We always woke at sunrise. All we needed were some cows to milk. Thanks Grandad - but we live in the city. Loved your chimes though.)
1792) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1845606)
Posted 31 Jan 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
isotopes


(a) pivot


(I still hate this forums forced colours. Its PHP. Who needs to strap boots like this?)
1793) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1843317)
Posted 20 Jan 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
cuddle
1794) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1843306)
Posted 20 Jan 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Greasy.

(Like these imposed forum colours. :()
1795) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 91 (Message 1842699)
Posted 17 Jan 2017 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Hardtack

(Totally Weevil)
1796) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New Attire. (Message 1835750)
Posted 13 Dec 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Is there a way to switch off this mocha-choca theme on the forum?

Visually it is quite disturbing :(

I don't know what people with 'colour (blindness?) issues might feel but for me it's highly distractive.

How do I switch it off and go back to better contrast or choose my own scheme?

Even the fonts now look downloaded and fuzzy...

In normal internet parlance this is a prelude to telling us our browsers are no longer supported.

Is BOINC about to drop support for XP or poor people's PC's?

?
1797) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New Attire. (Message 1835122)
Posted 10 Dec 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I just got my internet connection back proper after a month of hideous house moving to find the SETI forum looks rather different,

Is it me, my browser settings, or has the SETI forums now submitted to that 'midnight hacker shade' theme?

It looks a little dev'y, prog'y.. like. Sublime Textish, Code Blockish. ish..

Pale coffee and blueberry hot pockets.

Sorry I am just surprised.

.. but then I have a new abode so a new forum colour scheme might be apt.

Anyway it's like coming home to see the family has repainted or re-imagined the living room.

Someone snook in and redecorated.

This might take a little bit of getting used to.

(Are there any other real operational or value changes we should be aware of. Or is it just a thematic visual change?)

;o)
1798) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! Part IV (Message 1831055)
Posted 17 Nov 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
are you aware that is the first lady?



You mean she is the Queen...

(The queen's family are all immigrants.. Those pesky outsiders..)

Man I am out of touch ;)~

.
1799) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! Part IV (Message 1831047)
Posted 17 Nov 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


Forgive me and I know this photo may have a political meaning to people from both sides of the void but why is this womans picture being shown here.

Is she a person free to speak on SETI?

In my country when there is a description or representation of poor or needy people we often (near always.. and certainly by charities) see pictures of black people.

In the UK regardless of politics the majority average of poor are white british. (Immigrant of any colour or the black population are certainly amongst the poorest.)

A black woman frowning and showing a board complaining about 'immigrants' is an interesting image.

I would hazard a guess that most white or powerful americans believe that black americans are immigrants taking their jobs. (I use jobs as a euphomism.)

It is a brilliant picture but it is also auchestrated and fits in with a doubly hateful position.

Are all immigrants black (non-white)?

Do black people complain that black people are taking their jobs?

I come from the UK but have you tested your Trump for DNA genetic backgrounding to see if he, or you or any of us are immigrant or unwanted?

The photo is objectionable (using a black person to support a racist or ethnic issue.)

The photo also is a valid expression of the political sadness we have to suffer as everyday humans.

I don't know what to say.

It made me think.

Thank you (I think..) Carlos :)[/url]
1800) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 90 (Message 1831015)
Posted 17 Nov 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Mersey - Beat


(Weep boys. Weep.)

.
1801) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 90 (Message 1830628)
Posted 15 Nov 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
interpretation


fresh


A million which ways but always ours.

To discover is not to find.
It is the light up on our ignorance.
1802) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 90 (Message 1830618)
Posted 14 Nov 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
perspective
1803) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 90 (Message 1830611)
Posted 14 Nov 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Found
1804) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 90 (Message 1829721)
Posted 11 Nov 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Wooden-Hill..

.
1805) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is my dog giving me a warning? (Message 1829156)
Posted 8 Nov 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Lots of field workers like postal workers, utility meter readers carry dog biscuits just to name a few. As a 45 year utility worker I can back that up. We always had a box on the truck. The dog biscuits went a long way in preventing problems....


As a public worker or someone with a duty or belief in service I do not think anyone should ever put themselves in danger.

If duty, honour or law requires you to proceed then that is what animal control, police, courts or armed service are for. (That or send your manager in first.)

Animals can be noisey but nibbles and biscuits should be a treat for those who behaive sociably.

If you give an animal a treat when it is being aggressive or anti-social it may give you a moment whilst it eats the bicy (rather than you) but by nature you just encourage it to behaive the same next time.

You build a yolk for yourself as well as for the creature.

This thread is about something else... (A person who is responsible for their dog even if it is having a moment.)


I love my postal and public workers.

If I never wanted to recieve mail or service I would set the dogs on them :)~

.
1806) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is my dog giving me a warning? (Message 1829085)
Posted 8 Nov 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.... They came over to say hello and totally out of character my dog backed away. The man produced a dog biscuit he kept to ward off hostile dogs and she refused to take it. ...



If your dog hasn't done this before (in the last year let's say) in a similar situation then perhaps your movements and ways have changed and your dog is picking up on that.

The idea of someone who carries dog biscuits to ward off 'hostile' dogs to me is rather bizaar. (It's quite like carrying a gun or a thousand dollar bill to ward off a villain or gunman??? - It's unlikely to help unless you have a poisened biscuit or are good with a bullet..)


Maybe you have just become wary and your dog is not telling you anything but simply following you.

... or perhaps your dog just doesn't want to eat some smelly stranger's old pocket biscuits...

All us mammals go through life changes.

.. best thing is to ask your dog and do what it would do..

.... not think as a human ..

just be...

Sounds like you have a great dog...

.
1807) Message boards : Cafe SETI : OH, Hello again.......I am back for a while. (Message 1829023)
Posted 7 Nov 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I am back,...

Sure you can handle it?.


You are part of us now.

We belong to you and you belong to us.

You're craziness belongs only to you though.

Just be gentle with us poor souls :)~

x
1808) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 90 (Message 1829019)
Posted 7 Nov 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Complete

.

(That Carlos always get's there first :) - What Carlos said plus complete + free bird and honest.)

.
1809) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 90 (Message 1828278)
Posted 4 Nov 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Spartoi

.
1810) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 90 (Message 1828218)
Posted 3 Nov 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
s&m

.
1811) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 90 (Message 1828213)
Posted 3 Nov 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
ouch :/~

.
1812) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 90 (Message 1828211)
Posted 3 Nov 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
tickle

.
1813) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 90 (Message 1828193)
Posted 3 Nov 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Black-Jack

.
1814) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 90 (Message 1828186)
Posted 3 Nov 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Dance-Card

(Admiral Gloval's first kiss :))
1815) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 90 (Message 1827877)
Posted 1 Nov 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Lederhosen

.
1816) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I've got a bun in the oven! (Daphne's Blog) (Message 1827808)
Posted 1 Nov 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Alex.

Not sure I have conversed with you before.

To bring a new wonder and creature in to our world is beyond faith. It is life and love essential.

In SETI we look outwards because we believe or hope or imagine that beyond the sky and towards the stars we might find a glimpse of our story or at least know there is more.

In giving birth or holding a new one these questions mean nothing because all the answers are there in front of you.

Lovely photos.

You have a star right there.

Well done.

x
1817) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 90 (Message 1827803)
Posted 1 Nov 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Silhouette

.
1818) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 90 (Message 1827121)
Posted 28 Oct 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Idealised

.
1819) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 90 (Message 1827067)
Posted 28 Oct 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Weevils

.
1820) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 90 (Message 1827058)
Posted 27 Oct 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Hardtack

OOps. skipped a post... someone posted faster than me..

....edited...

Word now is Balti


(Me Admiral. We stand. High All and back teeth. Give us your signal.)
1821) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1826054)
Posted 22 Oct 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

scott

.
1822) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1825980)
Posted 21 Oct 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Margrethe

.
1823) Message boards : Cafe SETI : And about time. (Message 1824414)
Posted 15 Oct 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
A Western Cultural Icon for sure.

Well done Bob,

You have been part of us for so long.

.. and we are better... and a little stranger for it... xx


I kind of like the Sara and Joan Baez years...

... but then there is a life time of choice.

A couple of my favourite are:

Mr BoJangles

and

My Back Pages

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1824) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1824376)
Posted 15 Oct 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
ruby

.
1825) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1824361)
Posted 15 Oct 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
sea

.
1826) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1822049)
Posted 5 Oct 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Godess

.
1827) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1822030)
Posted 5 Oct 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Alexander.

.
1828) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1822008)
Posted 5 Oct 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
achieve

.
1829) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1821633)
Posted 4 Oct 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
industry

.
1830) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1821572)
Posted 3 Oct 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
rope

.
1831) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1821560)
Posted 3 Oct 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
hippie :)~


.
1832) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1821551)
Posted 3 Oct 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
ancestors


.
1833) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1820908)
Posted 30 Sep 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
pip

.
1834) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1820823)
Posted 30 Sep 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
apart.. :(


hugs :)


(Big Squishy Word Linker Ones..)
.
1835) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1820759)
Posted 30 Sep 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

footsteps

.
1836) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1820718)
Posted 30 Sep 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

(Wind-Bags)

Politicians

.
1837) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : The Biggest Littlest Team (Message 1820706)
Posted 30 Sep 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
*

We Are The Worst Kept Secret Ever.

The Final Front Ear.


Join Us.

*
1838) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1820637)
Posted 29 Sep 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Inter-Connection

.
1839) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1819560)
Posted 25 Sep 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Oi!.

.
1840) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1819481)
Posted 24 Sep 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Heart-felt

,
1841) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1819434)
Posted 24 Sep 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

scratchy
1842) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1819430)
Posted 24 Sep 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Fakir

.
1843) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1819410)
Posted 24 Sep 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Levitate

.
1844) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1817452)
Posted 16 Sep 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

embrace
.
1845) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1817433)
Posted 16 Sep 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
'

gelatinous

.

((Or for veggies: Blobs of boiled seaweed.)
1846) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1816906)
Posted 13 Sep 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Ezri



(The latter Dax Soul :)

.
1847) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1816871)
Posted 13 Sep 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.
Disco



(Hair Down Let)
1848) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1816829)
Posted 13 Sep 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
pale-skin

.
1849) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1816782)
Posted 13 Sep 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

101

.
1850) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1816780)
Posted 13 Sep 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

51%

.
1851) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1816773)
Posted 13 Sep 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
,

Burgeoning

.
1852) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1816765)
Posted 12 Sep 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
(Gender free.)

noble

.
1853) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1814785)
Posted 3 Sep 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

shillelagh

.
1854) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Photographs by Setizens - Originals only - any subject (Message 1814767)
Posted 3 Sep 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

A drawing in light is more than a thought.

Ansel Adams didn't catch the grey inbetween the black and white. He caught the silver and the translucence and depth.

.




.
1855) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 89 (Message 1814730)
Posted 2 Sep 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
co-op
:)


.

socialism

.
1856) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Internaut Day (Message 1812900)
Posted 27 Aug 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Oh Pants. I'm an oldy...

I remember a networked golf ball terminal and 4 bit pink punch tape. Programing in BASIC, ALGOL and COBOL.

This was pre 1979 and whilst not quite WWW it was at least national.

The internet these days is a mess of un-needed protocols and methods but I love my chance to communicate.

.
1857) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1812887)
Posted 27 Aug 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Romantic :) x

.
1858) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1812859)
Posted 26 Aug 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

suckers

.
1859) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1812842)
Posted 26 Aug 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

watchers

.
1860) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Photographs by Setizens - Originals only - any subject (Message 1810303)
Posted 19 Aug 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Porridge?

I knew someone was scurrying around late night.

Scratching, being all noisey like and nibbling on my bits.

Finally caught a picture of the little scallywag:





I think I have a new pet...

I'll just have to keep counting my fingers each morning.

.
1861) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1810283)
Posted 19 Aug 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.




.



Invisible



.
1862) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1810234)
Posted 18 Aug 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
bo (beau)

(first love)

.
1863) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1810219)
Posted 18 Aug 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
eternal

.
1864) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1809022)
Posted 14 Aug 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
in :)~

.
1865) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1808978)
Posted 13 Aug 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
in-divinity

.
1866) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Newbie - Just arrived (Message 1808965)
Posted 13 Aug 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Hi Alan.

Excellent that you have come to crunch with us.

There are no rules to joining a team other than feeling an affinity.. and if you don't famcy joining a team that is OK because you are always part of the greater community anyway.

I think most will agree it's a good thing to just look around for a while and see what catches your fancy or where you might fit in.

Otherwise... just go crazy and have fun.


Hi from Middle England :)


.
1867) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1808954)
Posted 13 Aug 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Apex

.
1868) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1808465)
Posted 11 Aug 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Becoming

.
1869) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1808409)
Posted 11 Aug 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

voluptuous


(Fervent and full :)

.
1870) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1807683)
Posted 7 Aug 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
social

,
(He said scratching his head!)
1871) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1807622)
Posted 6 Aug 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
coppice

.
1872) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Jack Lass (Message 1807618)
Posted 6 Aug 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Jack sent me one of those naughty email jokes many years ago.

It's a little risque so I've posted it in odd colour for the sensitive :). (Just run your cursor over it to see it better.)


""Pfizer Announcement

Pfizer Corp. announced today that Viagra will soon be available in liquid form, and will be marketed by Pepsi Cola as a power beverage suitable for use as a mixer. It will now be possible for a man to literally pour himself a stiff one.

Obviously we can no longer call this a soft drink, and it gives new meaning to the names of 'cocktails', 'highballs' and just a good old-fashioned 'stiff drink'. Pepsi will market the new concoction by the name of: MOUNT & DO.

Thought for the day: There is more money being spent on breast implants and Viagra today than on Alzheimer's research. This means that by 2040, there should be a large elderly population with perky boobs and huge erections and absolutely no recollection of what to do with them .

If you don't send this to five old friends right away there will be five fewer people laughing in this crazy world.

Jack.""


About the same time he put a lot of effort in to getting some flowers to DogBytes whilst he was ill and not too long before DogBytes died.

Jack Lass. A man of jest, care and wisdom.

Jack I take my hat off and show you my front ear.

Where ever you go there you are.

I'm proud to Boinc with the best.

See you on the other side.


x
1873) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1806647)
Posted 2 Aug 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Homer

.
1874) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1806568)
Posted 2 Aug 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
compete

.
1875) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1806544)
Posted 2 Aug 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
gentle

.
1876) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1806531)
Posted 2 Aug 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Vortices

.
1877) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1806524)
Posted 2 Aug 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
cable

,
1878) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1806508)
Posted 2 Aug 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

follow

.
1879) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1806469)
Posted 1 Aug 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Fall

.
1880) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1805273)
Posted 28 Jul 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
USAge

.
1881) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1805267)
Posted 28 Jul 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

u s....

.
1882) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1805253)
Posted 28 Jul 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Tanner

.
1883) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1805250)
Posted 28 Jul 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
'

Lace :)~

.
1884) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1805234)
Posted 28 Jul 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Cornucopia

.
1885) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1805227)
Posted 27 Jul 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Leprachaun

.
1886) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1805223)
Posted 27 Jul 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Fool('s)

.
1887) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1803665)
Posted 20 Jul 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
midnight

.
1888) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1803610)
Posted 20 Jul 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
GobStoppers

.
1889) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1803596)
Posted 20 Jul 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Chastity-Pants

.
1890) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1803548)
Posted 19 Jul 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Burgeoning

,
1891) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1802892)
Posted 16 Jul 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Cricket
.
1892) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1802852)
Posted 16 Jul 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
no-man

.
1893) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1802848)
Posted 16 Jul 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
face

.

gurn
1894) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1802817)
Posted 16 Jul 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
trébuchet

.
1895) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The kitties will still be hangin' around. (Message 1801861)
Posted 10 Jul 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Oh that's it then....

You entice us with your chat and conversation and then you go off to Lori's (?) making us jealous amd hungry talking of pizza and stuff...

Has anybody told you msattler that you are a big fat flirt :o)~

Save some pizza for us.

.
1896) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1801856)
Posted 10 Jul 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Equator

.
1897) Message boards : Politics : The Way Ahead (Message 1801854)
Posted 10 Jul 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Oliver Cromwell was once asked in despair by a rich man why the forest protected the poor. He said: 'That same forest protects you from them'...

Rudgard Kipling noted after his time in the NWFP (North West Frontier Province of India - Now Pakistan) that 'fences make good neighbours'...

Not sure that any of these ideas are true but if we love our humanity and want to make the world a better place we have to stand for everyone even if we have different cultural, social or political perspective.

I note that there has been a strong increase in hate crime in Britain since the referendum.

Shame on us.
1898) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1801846)
Posted 9 Jul 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Monsoon

.

(It's an Admirals Storm Warning: Batten down ye braces me mates.)
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1899) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The kitties will still be hangin' around. (Message 1801516)
Posted 8 Jul 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
All things are relative except for time!

.
1900) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The kitties will still be hangin' around. (Message 1801514)
Posted 8 Jul 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.....
Older now, by 16 years since you first met me.
.....


That was so long ago and we were all so inocent then and all but a dot.

Now look at you... You're a 16 year old full of vim and verve...

You're a spotty teenager :)~

.
1901) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link Discussion Thread IV (Message 1801506)
Posted 8 Jul 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I was going to say 'Nancy', but nah... So I googled it (gasp), and it turns out that this is also a pharmacological abbreviation, semel in die, once a day.
Trivia worth knowing, eh?


Buddah (Sid), googling 'Nancy' and pharma abbreviating all on the same day boggles the mind..

You know what they say: 'Once a king always a king... but once a kinght is enough.'
1902) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1801501)
Posted 8 Jul 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Delivery

.
1903) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1801492)
Posted 8 Jul 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Sid

.
1904) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The kitties will still be hangin' around. (Message 1801477)
Posted 8 Jul 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I love my dentist. What the dental hospital would take an hour or so to do he does in 5 minutes.

However I was just thinking... If you tell the dentist to pull the tooth you can put it under your pillow (dream happy thoughts) and wake up to a brand new silver sixpence left by the tooth fairy..

Tooth ache is a killer. No suprise that the anciet Greeks thought teeth to be a source of madness.

Hope you come back with pain free and sparkling pearly whites.

Good to see ya msattler.
1905) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1801411)
Posted 8 Jul 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Salt

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1906) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 88 (Message 1801382)
Posted 7 Jul 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Value

(not-nothing)

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1907) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1799793)
Posted 1 Jul 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Eclectic

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1908) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1799782)
Posted 30 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Sausage

(Veggie Version Of Course)

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1909) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1799745)
Posted 30 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Limes

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1910) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link Discussion Thread IV (Message 1798575)
Posted 25 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Bender, a character from the cartoon Futurama.


Bite my shiney metal...

ah .. Bender's my favourite scamp he is ~{8|}(<=<

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1911) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1798574)
Posted 25 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Honey

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1912) Message boards : Politics : Are humans born evil? II (Message 1798571)
Posted 25 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
For me we are either human or animal (sometimes both) depending on how we live our lives.

Maybe a better question is "Are We\You\Me Evil Or Are We\You\Me Good"...

We always talk about 'Humans' as the other \ someone else distant when we talk about the bad.

I assume everyone who reads this thread is hunan.

.. So the question should be "Are You Evil"...

It's easy to say other's are evil because they don't fit or do what you like or believe in.

It's harder to question ourselves.

I believe humans, animals, angels, gods, plants are born or become or just exist with whole variety of potentials.

Most succeed at becoming sociable or at least achieving the basics of reproduction without too many detractors.

On average human's nor any life form are born evil. Mostly they are born towards the positive.

It doesn't mean they are born 'good' either.

No doubt some are born and end up being destructive but most of us tend towards the productive or beneficial at some level.

Another question is "what do we consider evil or good"...

... but the best question for each of us to ask is "am I an evil human" and how long can I hide it for.

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1913) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1798561)
Posted 25 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
contact

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1914) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1798557)
Posted 24 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
No-Man

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1915) Message boards : Politics : The Way Ahead (Message 1798542)
Posted 24 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Currently the UK has no single official national day.
But now at last. Independance day.


I see very few if any Brits involved in this disscussion?

We have lots of national celebrations.

Our "independance day" was the first day we walked upon this fair earth.

Was it not the same for you? :)

I think we need some time of readjustment.

For better or worse we have placed ourselves on our heals and self belief.

(I also think that the British people become disaffected by their own government, powerful and rich.)

Let's see.

The Scottish politicians are already vy-ing for votes wanting a new referendum. Probably in the hope they can do a deal with Europe. Go for it Scotland..

.. and our Prime minister has already spoken to the Queen (don't ask me why) and announced his resignation. Shame on him for walking away when things get tough and I thought he was from the party that got tough when it was really needed.

The way ahead is always to stand in hope and work towards a better future.

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1916) Message boards : Politics : Britain Not In The EU. How Will It Effect You Personally? (Message 1798475)
Posted 24 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Probably won't affect my life much as I live in the USA. But I do occasionally buy items online from England and as long as the pound is in the dumper things I buy are much cheaper.


The first question is what do you buy from the UK that you can not buy locally?

I'm intrigued :)

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1917) Message boards : Politics : Britain Not In The EU. How Will It Effect You Personally? (Message 1798472)
Posted 24 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
There are a number of posts relating to Britain's vote to leave the EU.

Rather than ask for everyone to give a generalised political opinion I would like to ask how and why you seriously and honestly think it will mean a difference to you. To your life, your ecconomics, your cultural world connection... etc..

I'm not suggesting that Britain leaving the UK is anything devestating for the world but it is an event that will alter some balances and affect some of our lives quite distinctly.

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1918) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1797896)
Posted 22 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
bovine

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1919) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1797883)
Posted 22 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
frame

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1920) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1797855)
Posted 22 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
adam's-apple

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(My second word choice was 'gonads'.. so be grapefull :o)
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1921) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1796789)
Posted 17 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
gravitas

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1922) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1796751)
Posted 17 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

I

(Myself. Me.)
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1923) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1796678)
Posted 16 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
cascade

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1924) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1796074)
Posted 14 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Desire
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1925) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Setizens \ Boincers - UK. Midlands. (Message 1796037)
Posted 14 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I drive up to Willenhall from Basildon 5 nights a week, don't hang around very long though, drop one trailor pick up another then head home.


I'm Kind of interested in what you might carry from southern ports up to Walsall?

I'm even more puzzeled as what you might take back down south from Walsall?

You have left me intrigued.

It's good to know there are some Boincers that travel through these parts.
1926) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Setizens \ Boincers - UK. Midlands. (Message 1796035)
Posted 14 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
My brother in law Andy is from Nottingham.
Perhaps not a Setizen but anyway:)

He says Hi:)



Nottingham has a proud heritage...

They are all crazy hooded archers :)

Hi Andy of Nottinghamshire.

Does he BOINC?
1927) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Something kitty this way comes....the kitties are back. (Message 1796029)
Posted 14 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
msattler started this thread.

It has since been modded and his meaning has been removed.

Personally i think that this thread should be closed.

As a community we know that we have members who do not intend to do harm but who over-step the mark.

As a community we get to know each other and can rein in each other.

I think it really peculiar that the originator of a thread who may be deamed to be unwell or difficult (yet is known) should have all their post deleted or hidden yet responses shown.

I would like all my posts to this thread to be deleted.

More than that i would like the whole thread to be deleted.

Morally I can see no reason to embarrass a fellow human whatever their issues.

msattler can not respond.

Mods. Delete my posts to this thread please.

Delete this thread.
1928) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1796028)
Posted 14 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
(Suckled-)

Wolfling

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1929) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1796018)
Posted 14 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
celttooth



Tywysog :)

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1930) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1796015)
Posted 14 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Celts

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1931) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Something kitty this way comes....the kitties are back. (Message 1796011)
Posted 14 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
msattler. Wish you well.

I have over written my original post.

I responded but thread was modded inbetween times.

MODS PLEASE DELETE THIS POST / THREAD.
1932) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Setizens \ Boincers - UK. Midlands. (Message 1796010)
Posted 14 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Just doing a log in with any local fellows. (Regardless of team.)

Any Setizens or Boincers around the British Midlands?

(I'm in Brum.)

Say Hi.

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1933) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1794919)
Posted 10 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
HipBall

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1934) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1794334)
Posted 8 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Close

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1935) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1794301)
Posted 8 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Cool

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1936) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1793231)
Posted 4 Jun 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Girl-Parakeet

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1937) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1792392)
Posted 31 May 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
(Whaler's) -

Guild.

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1938) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1792363)
Posted 31 May 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
pinkies

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1939) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1792340)
Posted 30 May 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Belle


Clara

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1940) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1789913)
Posted 24 May 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
nunerie

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1941) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1789894)
Posted 23 May 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Shirley-Temple

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1942) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1788304)
Posted 18 May 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
bronze-teapots :)~

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1943) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1788267)
Posted 18 May 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Win10

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1944) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1788233)
Posted 18 May 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Hoovering

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1945) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1786581)
Posted 11 May 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Riotious

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1946) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1785153)
Posted 6 May 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

drone

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1947) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1785113)
Posted 6 May 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Re-grilled :)~

Mariners always marinate their mates before they munch. :}~ eeK.

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1948) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1785070)
Posted 5 May 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Interrogate

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1949) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What If... (Message 1785067)
Posted 5 May 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I was wondering about the apple that fell on Newton's head.

What if it wasn't gravity but an apple at it's moment of liberation from a tree that crashed into Newton's head who was planted on an earth travelling through space that was over-taking the apple?

What if there is no gravity but just things (matter / energy) that occupy different speed lanes in the great cosmos?

What if there was never a big bang but rather a "big suck"... Like an enormous vacuum that exploded us into parts that allowed us to become our lovely annoying selves?

It actually fits better with religious and spiritual beliefs. "At first there was some god" (In other words there was something as God occupied it..)

My "Big Universal Suck" theory actually answers more questions than that big bang idea.

I suspect that if aliens ever reached earth they had done the maths and worked out how exactly the universe sucked...

OK. So not all truthes come in neat packages..

But what if?

:)
1950) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1783631)
Posted 30 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Noggin

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1951) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Things That Should Never Have Been! (Message 1783598)
Posted 29 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Thinking about things that should never have been.. What about Marmite (you either love it or hate it.)???

How on earth did someone come up with a spread that has the reputation of tasting or smelling like bottoms???

I quite like Marmite (Aussie Vegimite or Yeast spready stuff...) [I'm not into bottom stuff though...]

I think the world could have done without Marmite.
1952) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1783573)
Posted 29 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

(Little)
Omicron




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1953) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Things That Should Never Have Been! (Message 1781489)
Posted 23 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I still love the sight of a good looking gurl in a pair of hip hugging bell bottom jeans.
I don't think they have ever gone out of style....


Sweet fantasies :)

I guess the oddest thing is when our fantasies or imaginations go out of fashion and we realise the world never needed them in the first place.

msattler.. what do you think the world would be better off if never happened?
1954) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Things That Should Never Have Been! (Message 1781473)
Posted 23 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Those well trained street charity people that use the psycho hard sell to get us to give up our bank details regardless of whether we are struggling to pay our own bills or not.

Tax collectors one and all ;\

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1955) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Things That Should Never Have Been! (Message 1781448)
Posted 23 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Speedos for fat guys.


After a few Southern Comforts we might not know the difference.. eek.. :(

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1956) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1781443)
Posted 23 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Vesta

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1957) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Earth DAY! (Message 1781412)
Posted 22 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... and there is probably no other planet in the whole universe that carries the sweet scent of jasmin in its breeze or bears the taste of fresh blackberries to our tongues as our earth does.

Thank you earth :)

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1958) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Things That Should Never Have Been! (Message 1781400)
Posted 22 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
1970's fondue makers and upper lip bushy moustaches?

What on earth was that all really about?

(Brrr. Makes me shiver every time I look at melted cheese or a broom or bell-bottoms...)



What other things could the world have done without?

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1959) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1781381)
Posted 22 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
whisperer

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1960) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1780574)
Posted 20 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
tires


sleepy


I spell British like :)

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1961) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1780489)
Posted 20 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Raj

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1962) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1779589)
Posted 16 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Fonzie

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1963) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1779586)
Posted 16 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
valent1

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1964) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1779582)
Posted 16 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
luster

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1965) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What If... (Message 1779478)
Posted 16 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
What If... ...


Yes!


:):)



Well that's rather succinct and to the point isn't it :)~


x
1966) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What If... (Message 1779468)
Posted 16 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
What If...

What if creation or evolution took a different path?

What if humans never became or evolved?

Would another species have reached self awareness or domination in the way we have?

Would they have played music or created art like ours?

Would they have created our values or technology?

What would they have said if they looked into the sky and saw a planet filled with humans?

Would they like beer or pizza or a nice cup of tea?

Your imagination is free to roam :) ....

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1967) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : They Seek Us Here - They Seek Us There. (Message 1779450)
Posted 16 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I heard our glorious leader 'Keith' was offering 'pie and mash' to any and all newcomers!

I don't know if that's true...

(I don't know how many pies he really has.. He's most likely scoffed most of them..)

What I do know is that if you join TFFE you enter the halls of the honoured and will feast with us in Halvalla.

We crunch because we can.

Join us.



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1968) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1779444)
Posted 15 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
garb

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1969) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A little bit of the kittyman's mind. (Message 1779442)
Posted 15 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
You need a chauffeur... Wouldn't that be nice..

.

(Yes Julie Andrews is a darling.)
1970) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1779426)
Posted 15 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Leder-hosen

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1971) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1779422)
Posted 15 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
elderflower-champagne

(Hick-uP..)

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1972) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1779420)
Posted 15 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
karma

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1973) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1778851)
Posted 14 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
father

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1974) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1776762)
Posted 7 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Ear-ies.

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1975) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1776758)
Posted 7 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
TaDpoLeS

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1976) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1776756)
Posted 7 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
eleven

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1977) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1776738)
Posted 6 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Cosmic

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1978) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1776735)
Posted 6 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
TV-Dinners :)

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1979) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1776726)
Posted 6 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Cradle

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1980) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 87 (Message 1776714)
Posted 6 Apr 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Bush

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1981) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Memories (Message 1774331)
Posted 27 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
How far back do you think a
person could possibility remember?


I had a lovely girlfriend long ago who told me about how angry she felt that her older brother used to sit above her in her pram. (She was less than 18 months.)

I suspect memories go back as far as the first moment our connective tissues started to eek out a connection.

I doubt we will recall all or much of what we think we want to remember.

Memory is also something we constantly re-evaluate given our present moment.

We forget that we chose not to remember in the past.

We forget that we have forgotten so we re-make in a pailer image.

We recreate memories in degrees.

We also need others to keep the thread alive.

Memory sometimes is powerful but often it is just an echo of an echo of an echo.

... but then sometimes a moment escapes... may be our perfect memory.

.

(I have no doubt that genetic or determinological memory affects us too.. i just doubt we as individuals will be able to put our finger on exactly what it means to us.)

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1982) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1774299)
Posted 26 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
oiled

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1983) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Little TLC For The TRC :) (Message 1774298)
Posted 26 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The 'Team Recruitment Center' part of the forum often goes without posts for ages.

How about a little bit of TLC (Team Loving Creativeness) For The TRC :)

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1984) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1774283)
Posted 26 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
sensual

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1985) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1774246)
Posted 26 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
shift

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1986) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Memories (Message 1774243)
Posted 26 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
BTW, it's not memories....
It is meowmories.

Get it right.


Of course I was talking on the phone to my Dad.

My sister phoned him earlier and told him to pack his bags as she was traveling down from London to take him back for the week.

Anyway we chatted and he talked about who was going to look after his cats and his little shark fish...

He started to groan.

His cat's knew we were talking about them and jumped on him and dug their claws in.

No one forgets cats.

They don't let you.
1987) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Memories (Message 1774200)
Posted 26 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I have memories (or snippets) going back to when i was no more than a dot. Sometimes I know there is more to the story \ picture and that frustrates me.

I remember being around 3 or 4 and breaking one of those glass shaky snow globes in my neighbours (carers) livingroom and the water leaking out really slow. I remember putting in back on the sideboard and hoping no-one whould notice.

I remember the smell of a german pub and cobled court yards and English rain bouncing off the main street outside my Gran's like faires doing a somersault.

I remember being angry with my one year older sister when going out to play in a field and I got my welly stuck in the mud and she ran off.

These are all pre-five memories.

Some of these picture burn so bright yet are always limited.

Just as they should be.

I think we often want our memories to be as powerful and be as ever present and affect us just the way our present moment does.

They never will I suspect.

They add to us.

Somethings were yesterday.

... Today Gord with you near your Mum is the best day just as much every fond memory she had was the best day.

Not everything that was or is good needs create a snaphot or specific memory..

Warmth and love is a memory that has no specified moment.

They have presence.
1988) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The joke thread Part 4. (Message 1773799)
Posted 24 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

What do you get if you throw another apple on top of the other apple???


A Squash..


Vegetarian Majic! :)


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1989) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1773791)
Posted 24 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Kojak

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1990) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1773753)
Posted 24 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Kids!


Stinkies :)


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1991) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sympathies to the good citizens of Belgium (Message 1773734)
Posted 24 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The words of Bulleh Shah:

The God that you find whilst searching in the complexity (jungle) can also be found by animal or creature.
But only the good and pure of heart meet \ find the true God.

You have learnt so much by reading a thousand books
Have you ever read what's inside of you?

You go sit in the temple, masjid or church
Have you ever visited your own soul?

You who are busy fighting Saitan (an adversary)
Have you ever fought your own evil intenions?

You have reached the sky
But have failed to reach what is in your heart!

.... Do not break the human heart for God dwells there within...



----


We can not believe we are protecting whilst destroying.

We can not live complacent lives yet complain.

For the memory of those who have died and those whose lives have been harmed or destroyed the question is what do we do to create a future without such hate, harm, death and shame.

I grew up as a child knowing bombings by the IRA who were agitated and funded by certain Americans.

I don't hate the Irish. I don't hate Americans.

I blame those who either gain from sufference or have no desire to just be another human being.

I am angry with those who send, manipulate or send others to cause harm whilst they themselves stand back and watch the carnage and destruction.

This includes our own people in power and those we call our adversaries and those that hate or take and even our own complacent everyday selves from both sides.


I find myself ashamed to call myself human at times.


My feelings go out to the peope of Belgium.
1992) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1773720)
Posted 24 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Reformed



Reborn

.

(Happy Easter To All)
1993) Message boards : Cafe SETI : If you were going to live in the USA which state would you choose to live in? (Message 1773346)
Posted 23 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I don't know what state I would be in when I come to live in America :)

.. but I fancy North Dakota.

Wide open spaces, ginormous buffaloes, endless fields of sunflowers, not too many people and the vast lake Sakawea.

Mind you it doesn't have earthquakes so that might be a little boring but otherwise it looks a great place to be.

Some where to loose oneself in for a lifetime.

The only downside is that it seems to be illegal to lie down and sleep with your shoes on!.... I wonder if it's illegal to sleep with someone elses shoes on?

No wonder in all those cowboy movies they were always stealing each others boots... They were going to North Dakota. :)

I like it.



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1994) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1773304)
Posted 22 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Fiddler


Jig



Fiddlin In The Riggin
For Our Admiral :)
1995) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The joke thread Part 4. (Message 1772409)
Posted 18 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I believe that Lode Lane Spanner , Brum Spanner, and Brum screwdriver are all alternative and somewhat derogatory names for a Hammer, usually a large one. .....


Oie boys and girls. Less of the dising of Brum. I'll let you know we in middle earth (the midlands) have a proud heritage as a power house and part of the forge of the industrial revolution.

We are proud of our hammers and soon to be resurected work houses.

Less of the Brummy hammer derogitory stuff please.

We think a Hammer is an American. A Spanner is an Australian, A Screwdriver is a European and a Tool is anyone that disagrees with Brummies :)))~


What do you get if you throw an apple on top of an apple???

A Pear..

Majic.
1996) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1772401)
Posted 18 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
batik

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1997) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are you listening to? (Message 1772393)
Posted 18 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

I'm listening to Coeur de Pirate for my sins...

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1998) Message boards : Politics : A word in the ear of Britain. (Message 1772313)
Posted 18 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
As a Brit I would like to hear from non Brits as to what you feel our government's statement that we will soon surpass even America in terms of growth factor.

Actually not just that but it might be refreshing to gain a general sense of where people in the world outside of the UK (you?) feel Britain fit's in the world community.

It's not an invitation for polarized arguement's.

Just a wish to hear what other people think about the society I live in.
1999) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1772299)
Posted 18 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Red-Barron!

.
2000) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A little bit of the kittyman's mind. (Message 1772292)
Posted 18 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Protectors.

Always valued but often undervalued.

It's a hard thing to stand up for, or stand in the place of, another in danger.

It's also a thing of love and the best of life and maybe the best part of us that some do.

.
2001) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Good Morning - Thread #3 (Message 1772277)
Posted 18 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Waking up without sleeping pills is a nice surprise.


Waking up after taking sleeping tablets can also be a suprise - of a different sort ;)

There is something wonderful in the first moment's of waking (unless you are desperate for the loo) when you are a a little dopey and ethereal and everything is so wooley and warm.

Then sadly cold reality hits.

If only they had an early morning warm fuzzy feeling pill.. I would rush myself off to bed every night in expectation.


.
2002) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A little bit of the kittyman's mind. (Message 1772269)
Posted 18 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

nOBODY HAS IN THE SLIGHTEST GIVEN ME A SIGNAL THAT THEY ARE WORTHY OF KNOWING WHAT i KNOW. AND SO i TAKE IT TO GRAVE NOW..


I think it would be nice to go to my grave without knowing half the things I know.

At least it would be better to pass on without the junk I \ we have collected over this life.

You are still nuts.

.
2003) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1772267)
Posted 18 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
screen

.
2004) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1771694)
Posted 15 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Corinthian

.
2005) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1771685)
Posted 15 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
spy

.
2006) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A little bit of the kittyman's mind. (Message 1771669)
Posted 15 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
You do realise that you are the only person (mostly) who is posting to your thread and you are completely nuts.

I thought I would just mention this in case other people were too shy or scared to speak up.

Hey to be truely nuts is sometimes to be a sage :)

You're totally crackers :o)~

x
2007) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1771645)
Posted 14 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Tarzan...


(Ahh Laa Laahhh... Jane.. Aye Ya Ya....)

.
2008) Message boards : Cafe SETI : π (Message 1771613)
Posted 14 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
You got me so hungry i tried to eat my Raspberry Pi.. Almost broke my teeth.

22 over 7 - Where would we be without it.

Happy T-shirt selling pi day to you too...



... and if anyone wants me to draw a pi design on their $5 T-Shirt let me know and I'll pop round (or send a minion) with a pen and do it for $15 for you :o)~

.
2009) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1771581)
Posted 14 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
head


Tow-Rag.


(One for the Admiral me matties.)

.
2010) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1771143)
Posted 12 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
orbitals

.
2011) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1771124)
Posted 12 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
inferno

.
2012) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : What is this mathematical concept called? (Message 1771116)
Posted 12 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I think you mean Oppenheimer in the Manhattan Project instead of Einstein.


No. I meant Einstein but it wouldn't suprise me if Oppenheimer also found inspiration for ideas from enquiry that goes back 5+ thousand years.

We stand on the shoulders of those who came before.

Hopefully we do a little better each time.. Maybe..
2013) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1771090)
Posted 12 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
creepy-crawly...

Ahhhh

.
2014) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : What is this mathematical concept called? (Message 1771087)
Posted 12 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
........
Ramanujan comes to mind.

.

LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCFck3laziI
But as a reminder, math is a very powerful tool to make our lifes somewhat easier.


Ramanujan's quite an interesting creature. The youtube video doesn't do any justice to his story or his value as a profound mathematician.

He died in the UK probably from TB.

He wasn't discovered but was promoted by the local elite (Brahmins) because he was a prodegie.

He left his wife to come to England and probably never saw her again.

What he gained here in the UK was our formulaic way of annoting our mathematics.

It is an interesting story to hear.

Some time in the 1960s some of his writings were found in a loft... Some of those mathematics are now being used to map cancer within populations.

Ramanujan was generally self efacing as far as I can tell.

Einstein I believe found some of his brightest (and probably darkest applications) within vedic traditions.

Anyway sometimes it is worth looking at a formula to see if it can help you get close to what you need...

.
2015) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : What is this mathematical concept called? (Message 1771080)
Posted 12 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
If it is the mathematics of this more than the practice or practicality that interests you Cosmic then perhaps number theory, infinate number series and a little slicing and folding might be up your street... :)

Ramanujan comes to mind.

.
2016) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1771075)
Posted 12 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Portal

.
2017) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1771019)
Posted 11 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Stargate

.
2018) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1770985)
Posted 11 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Interactive

.
2019) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1770315)
Posted 7 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Anu
.
2020) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1770309)
Posted 7 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Shamash

.
2021) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1770302)
Posted 7 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Radiance

.
2022) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This house that Seti built................ (Message 1770297)
Posted 7 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
If the truth be known (and I only believe God\s or Mathematicians know the truth - The rest of us have to deal in honesties..) every one who enters an open forum like the cafe - an "Agora" is both a protagonist, a suplicant and a 'Mod'.

I'm an odd one I know but I hope I don't carry angst.

I appreciate the cafe. I don't always agree with people or it's running... but then I love the fact that it happens and I get to join in in my odd way.

I don't know how the moding works here in this forum. Perhaps the forum should be written so Mod's can not be sent personal messages via the forum and any messages go to a general moding pool.

msattler. You both speak your 'piece' and your 'peace' and I think we are better for it.

Agora is our ancient place to speak, be and interact.

It's madening and frustrating but it's what \ all? we have.

I have seen you for a long time and you are valued and part of us :)

That said everyone is allowed a letting off of steam, a break or a change.

Xxx
2023) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1769555)
Posted 4 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.
Quilt

(down-feathered)

.
2024) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : They Seek Us Here - They Seek Us There. (Message 1769543)
Posted 4 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

We BOINC because we can.

If you are looking for a home or team to join think about joining us.

The Final Front Ear (TFFE)

We are the universe's best kept secret.

If you don't join us that's OK because we get to BOINC along side you anyway.

We are BOINCers and we only BOINC with the best.

Seek Us Out.

.
2025) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1769528)
Posted 4 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Betwix

.
2026) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1768902)
Posted 2 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.
throne

.
I owe celttooth and Carlos a postcard. Poe -> Po -> high seat -> Guzunder = The seat \ pot that 'Goes z-Under - The Bed' = potty...
2027) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1768858)
Posted 1 Mar 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Guzunder

.

(I'll send a postcard from my city to the first person that get's the connection without searching the internet.)
2028) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1768006)
Posted 27 Feb 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Entrenched.

.
2029) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : BOINC Because You Can (Message 1767996)
Posted 27 Feb 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The Final Front Ear


We BOINC because we know we can
. .and we do it so beautifully.



Join a team today.

Join Us.
.
2030) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Poetic Programming (Message 1767985)
Posted 27 Feb 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
if first not succeed:
..... print 'failure, might be your style..'

Print 'Quentin Crisp'


{A thread of programming but everyday, for everyone, in the cafe style and poetic :)]
2031) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1765998)
Posted 18 Feb 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
inheritors


.
2032) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1765906)
Posted 18 Feb 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
soul

.
2033) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1765898)
Posted 18 Feb 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Neanderthal-us

.
2034) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1764477)
Posted 12 Feb 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Big-Brother


(BBC - Acronym finder - for fun..:)~
2035) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1764468)
Posted 12 Feb 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Lionheart

.
2036) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1764362)
Posted 12 Feb 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Fancies-Fondant

.
2037) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1764338)
Posted 12 Feb 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Crisp

.
2038) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1764309)
Posted 12 Feb 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

(A) Marvel

.
2039) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1764257)
Posted 12 Feb 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
girl'y

.
2040) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1764191)
Posted 12 Feb 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

cheeky

.
2041) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1762741)
Posted 6 Feb 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Herculean

.
2042) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Pancakes (Message 1762730)
Posted 6 Feb 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Gordon. Pancakes with rabbits underneath remind me of childhood lunches and Auntie Maude.

Love Auntie Maude but So glad I'm a veggie now ;)

.
2043) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Pancakes (Message 1762727)
Posted 6 Feb 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Gnu. I miss Miggins.

(I suspect we all do even if we don't know it or say it.)

She always knows how to whip up a good batter.

Do you think she might come along and give us her favourite pancake recipie.

I'm all of a quiver now :)

.
2044) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1762723)
Posted 6 Feb 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Petroglyph

.
2045) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1762641)
Posted 5 Feb 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Jewel

.
2046) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Pancakes (Message 1762632)
Posted 5 Feb 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
'Pancake Day' is coming soon.


Pancakes for me shouldn't be sweet in themselves but must always have a little melted butter on them.

I like them savoury with 'grated cheddar cheese, sweet chilli sauce & fresh ground black pepper' or sweet with 'honey & nutmeg.'

What's your perfect pancake fantasy?

.
2047) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 86 (Message 1761634)
Posted 2 Feb 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Popsicle

.
2048) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 85 (Message 1761537)
Posted 2 Feb 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Scape-Goat


.
2049) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 85 (Message 1761496)
Posted 2 Feb 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Meat-Bags

.
2050) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 85 (Message 1761456)
Posted 2 Feb 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Tot

.
2051) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 85 (Message 1761444)
Posted 2 Feb 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

'witches-nose' ;)

.
2052) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New SyFy series "The Expanse" (Message 1760341)
Posted 29 Jan 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
It's interesting because it's sort of based in space.

Production wise it's one of the better SyFy projects.

It does my head in a bit though with the warbling accents. I mean are the mining belters really from the Velt? Is that a sowt afRicaana accent?

Is there a political edge about diamond miners here?

I keep expecting Chappie to jump out at any moment.

I live in hope to see a series about two planets coliding and our planetry DNA combining and we all end up as Dutch speaking cucumbers.. (.. and yes a large proportion of the UK's cucumbers come from Dutch poly-tunnels...) .. Perhaps it's already happening!

And no SyFy you are not allowed to use my cucumber idea....

Bless SyFy. It produces some real rubbish and then it creates some gems.. and it also produces some questionable media... but then... you have to love them for their willingness to create without care.

Crud or Jewel.

Hate or love em.

Respect SyFy.
2053) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 85 (Message 1760329)
Posted 29 Jan 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Velvety

.
2054) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 85 (Message 1760288)
Posted 29 Jan 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
nectar

.
2055) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 85 (Message 1760154)
Posted 29 Jan 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
drag

.
2056) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 85 (Message 1760149)
Posted 29 Jan 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

fag

.
(to light my)
2057) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 85 (Message 1760118)
Posted 28 Jan 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Ouroboros

.
2058) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 85 (Message 1757358)
Posted 18 Jan 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Blimp(ish)
2059) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 85 (Message 1756010)
Posted 13 Jan 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Coach

.
2060) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 85 (Message 1754101)
Posted 5 Jan 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
print(truth)

.
2061) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 85 (Message 1754075)
Posted 5 Jan 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Fontus

.
2062) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 85 (Message 1754066)
Posted 5 Jan 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
deep

.
2063) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 85 (Message 1754053)
Posted 5 Jan 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
yours

.
2064) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 85 (Message 1754010)
Posted 5 Jan 2016 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Thermae

.
2065) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 85 (Message 1747864)
Posted 9 Dec 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
knickers

.
2066) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 85 (Message 1747842)
Posted 9 Dec 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
fingers

.
2067) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 85 (Message 1747835)
Posted 9 Dec 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
eyed

.
2068) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 85 (Message 1747051)
Posted 5 Dec 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
drake

.
2069) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Long time no Post... (Message 1747034)
Posted 5 Dec 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Sending you a big wave hello.

(Does this mean we have to lock up our daughters yet again? ;))


Welcome home Dave.

.
2070) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 85 (Message 1745323)
Posted 27 Nov 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
case

.
2071) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 85 (Message 1745309)
Posted 27 Nov 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Cornucopia

.
2072) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 85 (Message 1743991)
Posted 22 Nov 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
pArk

.
2073) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 85 (Message 1743962)
Posted 22 Nov 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

combine harvester

.
2074) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 85 (Message 1741878)
Posted 13 Nov 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Pineal-Gland


Icke-onic


.
2075) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 85 (Message 1740053)
Posted 6 Nov 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

trickster

.
2076) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 85 (Message 1740050)
Posted 6 Nov 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

gem

.
2077) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 85 (Message 1737956)
Posted 29 Oct 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

twisted

.
2078) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 84 (Message 1735869)
Posted 21 Oct 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
the...
Sphinx


knows...


.
2079) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 84 (Message 1735845)
Posted 21 Oct 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
worm

.
2080) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 84 (Message 1734826)
Posted 17 Oct 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Pendragon


Little-Wings

.

Hoshi Ko
.
2081) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 84 (Message 1733863)
Posted 12 Oct 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
life


Gulaab-Bhaag

(Arabic, Urdu, Hindi, Persian-ish = "Rose Garden.")

.

Essence \ Fullness \ Being \ Place \ Construction.

.
2082) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 84 (Message 1733062)
Posted 9 Oct 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
X-men


Girls.



(Real men are XY-Boys.)

.
2083) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 84 (Message 1731439)
Posted 3 Oct 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Rubicon (The)

.
2084) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 84 (Message 1731367)
Posted 3 Oct 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Dewey


Soggy..

.
2085) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 84 (Message 1726789)
Posted 18 Sep 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Caché


(Squirrel nuts)

.
2086) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 84 (Message 1726698)
Posted 18 Sep 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Nourish

.
2087) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 84 (Message 1723604)
Posted 9 Sep 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.99


.
2088) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 84 (Message 1721166)
Posted 2 Sep 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Pants

.
2089) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 84 (Message 1721159)
Posted 2 Sep 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Part


Thing-Ummy-Bob?

.
2090) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 84 (Message 1721071)
Posted 2 Sep 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
same


Differ


(In-Same...:)

.
2091) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 84 (Message 1721018)
Posted 1 Sep 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Congruence

.
2092) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 84 (Message 1720143)
Posted 30 Aug 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Eden


(Pre-Apple.)

.
2093) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 84 (Message 1712132)
Posted 13 Aug 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Admiral

(Brine in his blood. The old salty sea dog.)

.
2094) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 84 (Message 1712018)
Posted 12 Aug 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Hysteria


.
2095) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #83 (Message 1710228)
Posted 9 Aug 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Dis

.
2096) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #83 (Message 1710204)
Posted 8 Aug 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
incongruent

.
2097) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #83 (Message 1709589)
Posted 7 Aug 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Float

.
2098) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #83 (Message 1707198)
Posted 1 Aug 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
burnt

.
2099) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #83 (Message 1702734)
Posted 18 Jul 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
imagination

.
2100) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #83 (Message 1702718)
Posted 18 Jul 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
trail

.
2101) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #83 (Message 1702689)
Posted 18 Jul 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Cinderella


Spark

.
2102) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Some prayers in need!!! (Message 1701973)
Posted 16 Jul 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Luis the world awaits you and is your's in joy.

You have a grandfather who is just waiting to play with you.

We know him as Mike. You will know him as warmth and part of the lovingness of your family.

It's not easy being born.

Luis: A big wave from my side of the world. Hello and Welcome.

Granddad Mike: I bet you are shining and beaming so brightly.

My hopes and best wishes.

Pete
2103) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #83 (Message 1701937)
Posted 15 Jul 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
fecundity

.
2104) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #83 (Message 1700412)
Posted 11 Jul 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Eden?

.
2105) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #83 (Message 1700371)
Posted 11 Jul 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Sorry :( ;)

.
2106) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #83 (Message 1700368)
Posted 11 Jul 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Passive

.
2107) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #83 (Message 1700341)
Posted 10 Jul 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Assay

.
2108) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #83 (Message 1700334)
Posted 10 Jul 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
purify

.
2109) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #83 (Message 1700328)
Posted 10 Jul 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Halitosis :(

.
2110) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The story game, Part VII (Message 1699165)
Posted 7 Jul 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
deep in craves

.
2111) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The story game, Part VII (Message 1699154)
Posted 7 Jul 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
something new discovered

.
2112) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #83 (Message 1699136)
Posted 7 Jul 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Porky-Pies

.
2113) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #83 (Message 1699125)
Posted 6 Jul 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
porkless

.
2114) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #83 (Message 1697256)
Posted 1 Jul 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Ω

2115) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #83 (Message 1697132)
Posted 30 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

bi~

.
2116) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #83 (Message 1697123)
Posted 30 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Phase

.
2117) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #83 (Message 1696264)
Posted 27 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Roots

.
2118) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #83 (Message 1696165)
Posted 27 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Kith

.
2119) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #83 (Message 1696160)
Posted 27 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Comrades

.
2120) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #83 (Message 1696072)
Posted 26 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

"Le-Cafe-SETIe" ;)



<giggles.. sorry.. ...ahem)

.
2121) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #83 (Message 1696051)
Posted 26 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Flatulence

<eek - wind shear> :(

.
2122) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #83 (Message 1695024)
Posted 24 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Khyber
. (Up The)

.
2123) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #83 (Message 1694967)
Posted 24 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Satisfied

.
2124) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #83 (Message 1694934)
Posted 24 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Purple-Sage

.
2125) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #83 (Message 1694896)
Posted 23 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Harp

.
2126) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #82 (Message 1692100)
Posted 16 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
NCO


Goofy


(NCO? = "Nefarious Comedic Orthodontists" ;)

.
2127) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #82 (Message 1692077)
Posted 16 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
mock
.
2128) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1691993)
Posted 16 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I thought some were too Jung to get it....


But then maybe we were all a little jung at heart.

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2129) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1691960)
Posted 16 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Never got the hang of it, but sad to see it go.


Neither did I ;)~ <gRin>

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2130) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #82 (Message 1691951)
Posted 16 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Magic

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2131) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1691943)
Posted 16 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nNDcxtR4oI

I'll miss you!



Beautifully closed Celttooth.

Dreamy.

Can I ask a Mod to switch off the thread softly in a day or so.
2132) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #82 (Message 1691895)
Posted 15 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Jest

.

2133) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1691865)
Posted 15 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Shall \ can we say goodnight to this thread?

There are so many other, new and potential threads and places to explore.

Give the thread a wave goodnight.


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2134) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1690410)
Posted 12 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


Do Bats Eat Cats
Or Cats Eat Bats



Lamas and Peas. How Yummy.
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2135) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #82 (Message 1690407)
Posted 12 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Symbolic

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2136) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1690381)
Posted 12 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...the son of typical English parents....


Jerusalem



I think Adam & Eve and the favoured son were born just along all our streets.

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2137) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #82 (Message 1690362)
Posted 12 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Mtume

Smooth

. Lovin'

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2138) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #82 (Message 1690347)
Posted 12 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Succulent

Naughty-But-Nice

.
2139) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1690341)
Posted 12 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Lucy with a club...

... I Love Mitochondrial Eve

.

(Does someone want to take the thread in a non golf direction.)
2140) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #82 (Message 1690328)
Posted 12 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Salacious

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2141) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #82 (Message 1690314)
Posted 12 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
XX-Large

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2142) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #82 (Message 1690309)
Posted 11 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
brand

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2143) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #82 (Message 1690299)
Posted 11 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Fe2_O3

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2144) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #82 (Message 1688286)
Posted 5 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
sculptor

.
2145) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #82 (Message 1687904)
Posted 5 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Equilibrium
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2146) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #82 (Message 1687481)
Posted 3 Jun 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Yule!


Log

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2147) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #82 (Message 1685824)
Posted 30 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Alls


Uno :)~

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2148) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #82 (Message 1684680)
Posted 27 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
game

.... Word-Link



Ouroboros



(Nice 360 reference Gloval :) That's why we call you the Admiral.)

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2149) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1684636)
Posted 27 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
You sexy thing...

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2150) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #82 (Message 1684617)
Posted 27 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Wish-Maker

.
2151) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #82 (Message 1684608)
Posted 27 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Err

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2152) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #82 (Message 1684566)
Posted 27 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
lethargic


Droopy ;)

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2153) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1684556)
Posted 26 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
You guy's are awful at Rap :)

Here's a fun Rap. Click Me.
(Remember the points don't matter!)


.

To get the thread going here are 3 words:

Please Mr. Postman

Lead us where they may....


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2154) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #82 (Message 1682429)
Posted 22 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Tina


Tangent

.
2155) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #82 (Message 1682376)
Posted 22 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
better


Creamier

.
2156) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #82 (Message 1682368)
Posted 22 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
chart


Bigger

.
2157) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1682362)
Posted 22 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Blues


Cool.

Write a blues song. (One line each.)

"I woke up this morning..."


...
2158) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #82 (Message 1681233)
Posted 18 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
soccer

.
2159) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #82 (Message 1681202)
Posted 18 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Aspirations

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2160) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1680414)
Posted 16 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
NeXTStep

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2161) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1680247)
Posted 16 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
turn

.
2162) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1680240)
Posted 16 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Citizen's

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2163) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1680230)
Posted 16 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
& Tell

.
2164) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1680189)
Posted 15 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
News

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2165) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1679446)
Posted 14 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Fermentin Revolution: The Yeasty Boys...


.
2166) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1679423)
Posted 14 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
suckle

.
2167) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1679400)
Posted 13 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Embellish

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2168) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1679393)
Posted 13 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
swell
2169) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1679390)
Posted 13 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Laryngitis ;)~

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2170) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1679371)
Posted 13 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Equine.

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2171) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1676954)
Posted 9 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Old-English


gereord

(gemǣlan)
2172) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1676614)
Posted 9 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Polish

.
2173) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1676405)
Posted 9 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
poop

.
2174) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1676254)
Posted 9 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Gee, a zero sum drink...


The vortex in my kitchen sink goes one way.

Down under (on top to them) in Australia I am told it goes the other way. That's freakish.



eek. Mesuga Caffeine Hero:



Tweak.

Who's your strange hero?
2175) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1675415)
Posted 9 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Illuminated

.
2176) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1675396)
Posted 8 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
no-mad


Sane :)

.
2177) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1675391)
Posted 8 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
no-man

.
2178) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1675386)
Posted 8 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

1001 Arabian bites?


Binary Bytes Need Zeros.

(Thumbs up to ancient Persian's & Hindi's for the zero.)


.
2179) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1675376)
Posted 8 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
cast

.
2180) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1673018)
Posted 2 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Moon


Clangers


,
2181) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1672877)
Posted 2 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Space


... 1999

.
2182) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1672867)
Posted 2 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Yes!


A powerful word in every way..


.
2183) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The story game, Part VII (Message 1672847)
Posted 2 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
in the cafe


Alice served pie

.
2184) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1672845)
Posted 2 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Would anyone like to take this thread in a different direction?

(It's somewhere between one word and a 4 line stanza. It's as free as you like and can include images. music or concepts, (It's not a long term discussion thread.) As long as it is sociable and we follow the ideas people add we are free.)

.
2185) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1672835)
Posted 1 May 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Confederated


"Guy Fawkes"?

.
2186) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1671368)
Posted 29 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Toothpaste

.
2187) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1671326)
Posted 29 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

bien-aimé

.
2188) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1671312)
Posted 29 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Whey


Curdle.

(Shiver.)

,
2189) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1671300)
Posted 29 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Sing Loud.

Canadians are hippies :)

.
2190) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1671286)
Posted 28 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Ottomans love Turkey!


.. and northern folk love hair ...

.
2191) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1671278)
Posted 28 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Tart


Clotted-Cream

.
2192) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1671250)
Posted 28 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
sorrow


Magpie

.
2193) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1671244)
Posted 28 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

The Welsh love Wales :)

,
2194) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1668922)
Posted 23 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

eye

.
2195) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1668890)
Posted 23 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

I heard girls come from sugar and all things that rot your teeth :) ?

.
2196) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The story game, Part VII (Message 1668873)
Posted 23 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
goats stinky lips

.
2197) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1668867)
Posted 23 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Beating

.
2198) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1668861)
Posted 23 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Hearth

.
2199) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1668855)
Posted 23 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Elvis A.D.


Oh my gord... Elvis has an Admiiral Device...

I thought he was on Mars...

... Ahhh... running for the hills... Ahhh...

.
2200) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1668825)
Posted 23 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Sol

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2201) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The story game, Part VII (Message 1668821)
Posted 23 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
sticky applesauce quagmire
.
2202) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The story game, Part VII (Message 1668811)
Posted 23 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
but boots suffice
.
2203) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1668805)
Posted 23 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
He's back!


Who? Admiral?

He has a pipe, a great hat and a fast wit.

He never left :0)~

<gRin>

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2204) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1668798)
Posted 23 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Perky Salmon Swim Upstream.

Life's lovers go with the flow.

.
2205) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1668793)
Posted 23 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Zap-zap


Electro-fly-er

.

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2206) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1668788)
Posted 23 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Sparkly


.
2207) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1668786)
Posted 23 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Team Testosterone.
2208) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1668784)
Posted 23 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Choco-Balls



(Nothing like the Korean \ Japanese Choco-Boy chocolaty mushroom snacks
- but a cereal goodly breakfast ball shaped... Oh god... these food companies make so much fun of us...)


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2209) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1667925)
Posted 21 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
evoke

.
2210) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1667922)
Posted 21 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Hokkaido

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2211) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1667914)
Posted 21 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Gandalf the Grey


Myriad Of Magic - Black or White.

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2212) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1667878)
Posted 21 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Creamy.

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2213) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1667860)
Posted 21 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

delicate


2214) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1667850)
Posted 21 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
corral

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2215) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1667842)
Posted 21 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
pencil

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2216) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1667820)
Posted 20 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Helter-Skelter

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2217) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1667816)
Posted 20 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SeaSide

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2218) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1667814)
Posted 20 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Je me souvenis!



Cherish Your Being and Belonging.

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2219) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1667764)
Posted 20 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
No dope about it...


Meanwhile back at the memory bank....



Tiny magnetic donuts.

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2220) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1667761)
Posted 20 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Proper

.
2221) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #81 (Message 1667752)
Posted 20 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
"Gretna-Green"

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2222) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1665940)
Posted 16 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Solar

.
2223) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1665922)
Posted 16 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
skin

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2224) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1665906)
Posted 16 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Darling

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2225) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1665841)
Posted 16 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
dig

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2226) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1665828)
Posted 15 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
visceral

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2227) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1665822)
Posted 15 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Reminds me of that vampire movie. "30 Days of Night."


Fortitude my fiend. :)

May God stand between you and harm,
in all the dark places you may travel. . .


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2228) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1665805)
Posted 15 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Tom-Cat

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2229) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1665802)
Posted 15 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Why only have 15 minutes?


Sometimes less is more!

Once a King always a King
But once a Knight is enough.


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2230) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1665795)
Posted 15 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
insect

.
2231) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1665790)
Posted 15 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
lick

.
2232) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1664432)
Posted 12 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Iceland ;o)~

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2233) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1664418)
Posted 12 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
eviction ;)

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2234) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1664395)
Posted 12 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
paradigm

.
2235) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1664389)
Posted 12 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
fecundity

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2236) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1664383)
Posted 12 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Fidel Castro


Atlas Did Shrug.

(When he realised the world was not his to carry or own.)

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2237) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1664377)
Posted 12 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
If you prick us do we not bleed?
If you tickle us do we not laugh?
If you poison us do we not die?
And if you wrong us shall we not revenge?

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2238) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1664351)
Posted 12 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

ipecac



Full Marx

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2239) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1664348)
Posted 12 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
hydrate

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2240) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1664344)
Posted 12 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
chalice

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2241) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1664343)
Posted 12 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.. Union Gap


The plebs are revolting.


(They really are awful.)

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2242) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1664340)
Posted 12 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
carpenter

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2243) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1663426)
Posted 10 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
sled


Rudolph

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2244) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1663414)
Posted 10 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Golf

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2245) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1663409)
Posted 10 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
irresistible

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2246) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1663401)
Posted 10 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Watt!

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2247) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1663396)
Posted 10 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
(pot-a-mus)

flower

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2248) Message boards : Cafe SETI : James' Puns O Fun 5 (Message 1663348)
Posted 10 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Without airs or grace
life's survivors and creators
make shameless our
contradictions

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2249) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1663324)
Posted 10 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Transcend

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2250) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1663241)
Posted 9 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Chang and Eng Bunker


Betwixt

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2251) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1663231)
Posted 9 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
so

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2252) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1663193)
Posted 9 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
apple

.
2253) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1663191)
Posted 9 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
God of beginnings and passages


Dualities Journey Burning Bright...

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2254) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The story game, Part VI (Message 1661018)
Posted 3 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
wind on grass

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2255) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1661010)
Posted 3 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
binding

(arm-ring)

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2256) Message boards : Cafe SETI : James' Puns O Fun 5 (Message 1661007)
Posted 3 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Too little potage makes us absent..


(and maybe a little obscure.)

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2257) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1661000)
Posted 3 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
admirable

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2258) Message boards : Cafe SETI : James' Puns O Fun 5 (Message 1660952)
Posted 3 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
We embark upon a different root. It sets us free,

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2259) Message boards : Cafe SETI : James' Puns O Fun 5 (Message 1660944)
Posted 3 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.. yet above the surface re-leaf is found..

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2260) Message boards : Cafe SETI : James' Puns O Fun 5 (Message 1660926)
Posted 2 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... but the peal of bells, double meaning spells, your vegetable puns seem sexy...

eek

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2261) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1660923)
Posted 2 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Crossing

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2262) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1660908)
Posted 2 Apr 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Tesla

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2263) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1658838)
Posted 29 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Alchemists

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2264) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1658725)
Posted 29 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... TheirsElves?


It's Them Eleves Fault!


(It's a bit unfair. some of us neither have dogs nor elves to blame our looks up on.)
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2265) Message boards : Politics : Close the Politics Forum? (Message 1658663)
Posted 29 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Can I add my two pennies worth?

I haven't posted in the politics forum for a very very long time.

From a quick look around I can see that there are more than political opinions. There are often personal emotions.

From a pragmatists point of view. If the political forum was to close all you people with a lot to say might just end up in the cafe thread and I suspect that would be overload.

I often look in this forum but don't always know where to fit in to the general melay.

As a kind of outsider (SETI.. but cafe neighbour) I would like the oppourtunity to get involved once in a while.

I would not like to see the politics forum disappear but I wonder if the forum could do with taking a step back:

What about the idea that all new threads must have a title and purpose matching their intent and subject?

It's OK for the cafe to be fluffy as it's about generalities and sociability but because of passion of belief it might be better that threads in the political forum by agreement or rule were titled more specifically.

Obviously some people are unhappy in this political place but given it's a "political forum" shouldn't you all be able to come together and find consensus?

For my two cents and to be realistic a SETI forum doesn't have enough people to run a "political forum" in any open true sense. It does have a space in which opinions can be shared and aired.. but then if the opinions become too strong it stops being a forum (an Agora) and just becomes a voice for the opinionated.

Can I suggest a separate thread name "Politics Forum - Our Hopes And Directions For It's Future" in which nobody can post more than once a week and nobody can argue against another and no post is to include outside sources or more than 2 paragraphs (50 words).

Set the target for 1 month.

In this way each has time to consider and can only promote their hopes, aspirations and limitations equally.

At the end of this SETI can decide on the worth of it's resources.

Truth is. It's either a political forum to discover or a place to shout out opinions.

Am I out of order?

I'm just trying to avoid you nut bags ending up in the cafe with nowhere else to go.

:o)~
2266) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1658660)
Posted 29 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Non-regulation


Adolescence

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2267) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1658634)
Posted 29 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
(If all owners look like their dogs....)


Who Do Dogless Owners Look Like?


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2268) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1658633)
Posted 29 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Unaffordable

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2269) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1658627)
Posted 29 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
school-meals

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2270) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : The Final Front Ear (Message 1658623)
Posted 29 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
It's true!

100% of "The Final Front Ear" agree that being part of our team
makes us sexier, stronger and more virile than any other team in the universe.


Join Our Team

Become a god or goddess.

You Deserve Nothing Less.

Join Us Today.

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2271) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1658573)
Posted 29 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Soylent-Green

:)~

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2272) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1658552)
Posted 29 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
love


Magical Moments
- Kisses Behind The Shed.

(Or where ever lips steal kisses these days.)

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2273) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1658542)
Posted 29 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Powerful Attraction

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2274) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1658530)
Posted 29 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
ovum

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2275) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1658525)
Posted 29 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I'll give a partial quote from Rumi:

“... you feel a river moving in you.... .”


Lead where it may.

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2276) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1658516)
Posted 29 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Maple
2277) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1658499)
Posted 29 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
51%

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2278) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The story game, Part VI (Message 1657207)
Posted 26 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
amongst purple grass

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2279) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The story game, Part VI (Message 1657183)
Posted 26 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
eyes look back

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2280) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1657154)
Posted 26 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Smoked

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2281) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The story game, Part VI (Message 1657151)
Posted 26 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
nervously we step

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2282) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The story game, Part VI (Message 1657147)
Posted 26 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
opening a doorway

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2283) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The story game, Part VI (Message 1657139)
Posted 26 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
his light refracted


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2284) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1657137)
Posted 26 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


So Mote it be!



Priceless Pagan.



What is - will always be.
What is not - never was.






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2285) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1657134)
Posted 26 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Packer

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2286) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1657130)
Posted 26 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Pugilist

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2287) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1657058)
Posted 26 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Ivy

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2288) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1657047)
Posted 26 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
glove

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2289) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1657041)
Posted 26 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Endless Us


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2290) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1657030)
Posted 26 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Motivation

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2291) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1657007)
Posted 26 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Thugs



Band
2292) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1656997)
Posted 26 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Peaky-Blinders

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2293) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1656941)
Posted 25 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Forebears

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2294) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1656936)
Posted 25 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Weather


Or Not?



eeK - Or So

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2295) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #79 (Message 1655386)
Posted 21 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Tout-de-suite.

.

(FR = Now. yet Vita Brevis or Uncooked.)
2296) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1655373)
Posted 21 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Dream Giver


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2297) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1655344)
Posted 21 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

הוא אדם נפלא

Hey Julie,

What does this mean.

I guess it's Israeli

Give us a English word for your meaning so we can continue.

If not then then teach us the meaning.


and let us dance הוא אדם נפלא
2298) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #79 (Message 1655317)
Posted 21 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
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NASA-iens



(Star \ children \ us ??)
2299) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #79 (Message 1655310)
Posted 21 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
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Hoshi Ko

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(Star \ child)..
2300) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #79 (Message 1655302)
Posted 21 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
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Ironside

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2301) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #79 (Message 1655298)
Posted 21 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
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obtuse

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2302) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #79 (Message 1655239)
Posted 21 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
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-Ion

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2303) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #79 (Message 1655221)
Posted 21 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
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Cormorants

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2304) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1655219)
Posted 21 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
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Naked In The Kitchen.



Softly, gently and almost so..


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2305) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #79 (Message 1653444)
Posted 16 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
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unsaid

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2306) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #79 (Message 1653428)
Posted 16 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.









Silence is also a word
The air flutters
The word can not be bridled
shh now.
Lovingly Gobsmacked
How Strange
2307) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #79 (Message 1653406)
Posted 16 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
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shh!
2308) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #79 (Message 1653387)
Posted 16 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
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keen

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2309) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #79 (Message 1653376)
Posted 16 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
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Erudite

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2310) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1653371)
Posted 15 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
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Shan't mention Iggy Pop then shall I? :)

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2311) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #79 (Message 1653341)
Posted 15 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
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Tumbleweed

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2312) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1653333)
Posted 15 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
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and not a Pfennig more.

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2313) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #79 (Message 1652367)
Posted 13 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
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Orbs

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2314) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #79 (Message 1652333)
Posted 13 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
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Kirk.

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(James. T.)
2315) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1652308)
Posted 13 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
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Tea Leaves and Mini Fish

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(A Northern Supper For Sure :)~
2316) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1652294)
Posted 13 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Silver Screen.


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2317) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1652226)
Posted 12 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
You Know

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2318) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1652222)
Posted 12 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
We Golden Child

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2319) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1652151)
Posted 12 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Big Mac

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2320) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #79 (Message 1649854)
Posted 6 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
StrAnge

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2321) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #79 (Message 1649844)
Posted 6 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Iceni-an

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2322) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #79 (Message 1649802)
Posted 6 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
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Hamlet


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(Warning - Smoking can and often does harm your health. :( )
2323) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #79 (Message 1649798)
Posted 6 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Camp-er

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2324) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1649795)
Posted 6 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
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Me Free Set

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2325) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #79 (Message 1649030)
Posted 4 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Rook

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2326) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #79 (Message 1649012)
Posted 4 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
bannanas

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2327) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #79 (Message 1649006)
Posted 4 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
dream
2328) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1648997)
Posted 4 Mar 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

flirty flutterby

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2329) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #79 (Message 1647558)
Posted 28 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Cusp

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2330) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #79 (Message 1647549)
Posted 28 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Bastion

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2331) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #79 (Message 1647522)
Posted 27 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Reverberations

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2332) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #79 (Message 1647483)
Posted 27 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
concatenate

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2333) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1647479)
Posted 27 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Word Up!


Down In The Hood


(It's about Words. Concepts. Ideas...)

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2334) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #78 (Message 1646279)
Posted 25 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
- Lion

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2335) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1646250)
Posted 25 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Joan of Arc


Angel. Dirty Faced.



(Rebel. Mad. Beloved Somehow.)

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2336) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #78 (Message 1646230)
Posted 25 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Jam

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2337) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1646226)
Posted 25 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
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Burning passion.


(Dance the Fandango.)

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2338) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1646195)
Posted 25 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
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Marsh Mallows

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("meadow muffins" - You just have to love the thought. Brilliantly classic Admiral :) )
2339) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #78 (Message 1646185)
Posted 25 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Sheepess.

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2340) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1646182)
Posted 25 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
yummy mastications.

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2341) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #78 (Message 1643740)
Posted 18 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
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erst

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2342) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #78 (Message 1643718)
Posted 18 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
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scurry

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2343) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #78 (Message 1643692)
Posted 18 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
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Croissants

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2344) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #78 (Message 1643651)
Posted 18 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Season

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2345) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1643628)
Posted 18 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
AnnieT - SETIzen extraordinaire. :~)


Proud.


...
2346) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1643617)
Posted 18 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Bag Lady.



Amazing Annie.


(Our local bag lady. Highly Educated. Totally Nuts. Damaged n Hurt... But Human.)

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2347) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1643605)
Posted 18 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Radio days


Big Flares


(Sideburns, mustaches, CB Radio and Smokey and The Bear.)


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2348) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1641105)
Posted 13 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Green Ag


Jade

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2349) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1641030)
Posted 13 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

flathead native American


Woaden Warriors


(We Forgot Where We Came From.)

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2350) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1641001)
Posted 13 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Gertie the Dinosaur



Wild Horses


{Zoetropic Equine}

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2351) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1640967)
Posted 12 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Charlie Chaplin


Dancing on girders like Harold Lloyd.

(Poetry of position.)
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2352) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game discussion thread (Message 1640962)
Posted 12 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I bet cRunchy won't mind what's going on in the thread:)


I think I created a monster :o)

It's good to play.

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2353) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1637697)
Posted 5 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
(Beautiful Sea Side Rock and..)


Aurora Borealis


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2354) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1637681)
Posted 5 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Iris and shine


Sparkling Rainbow.

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2355) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #78 (Message 1637645)
Posted 5 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Blinding
2356) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1637628)
Posted 5 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Nitpicker


> Self Reflecter

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2357) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1637601)
Posted 5 Feb 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Myeah...


(Reminds me of Miah:)

Feminine Strength.


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2358) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #78 (Message 1635445)
Posted 31 Jan 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
DeLorean
2359) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #78 (Message 1635254)
Posted 30 Jan 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
mystique
2360) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1635188)
Posted 30 Jan 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


We love flowers!



ElderFlower Super Hero

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2361) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1635141)
Posted 30 Jan 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Dance the funky chicken and be funny!


Shake Your Booty.

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2362) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1634702)
Posted 29 Jan 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Universal Language.


(Veg Sausage, peas and mash.)


Comforting

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2363) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1634562)
Posted 29 Jan 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Authoritative deception.


Steel Faced Babies


----

The rules are just word, quote. image or meaning association but trying to keep the words to a minimum.

Where ever it takes us as long as there are connections.

Even if the people here are mad and they take us somewhere strange :o)
2364) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1634513)
Posted 29 Jan 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Fruitcake


... Politician
2365) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1634506)
Posted 29 Jan 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Auntie Has A Dark Side


and she loves walnuts!
2366) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1634475)
Posted 29 Jan 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...... Made me think of this:

Crazy Horse


Oh my goodness Granny looks quite scary..

Rather that frighten everybody lets start a new subversion.


You choose a new root word.


(I'm off to sleep. Be interesting to see where the thread ends up.)
2367) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1634467)
Posted 29 Jan 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Greasy Grass

(OK we might need to look this up. :o) )
2368) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1634463)
Posted 29 Jan 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Benedictine spread


My Word:

Ebola

Sorry :o(



(I love the smell of fresh cut grass. But Songbirds are rather chewy.. eek)
2369) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1634459)
Posted 29 Jan 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
cucumbered songbirds
(poor little things)
2370) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1634451)
Posted 29 Jan 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Ooo. Schnapps, Cool.
2371) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wordage Association Game (Message 1634448)
Posted 29 Jan 2015 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Rules are:

Associate a word or a one line quote.

(All responses must be sociable and tend towards using as few words as possible :o)

I will start with two words:


Apple Mint


Words, Quotes, Images or Imaginings are welcome.
2372) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : The Final Front Ear (Message 812748)
Posted 27 Sep 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Join TFFE?
HOW?...there are no links on this thread.

and everywhere I search brings up THIS?


Whiskey,

People can join TFFE (or any team) in the same old manner from any project they are connected to.

(For SETI just click here: TEAM SEARCH and type in the team name (EG: "The Final Front Ear") and select "Join Team"... Simple!)



However not every team has a 'team website'....


... As to our team website:

Thank you for reminding us that we need to update our links.


We have been building a new site and wanted to finish it before we gave out the link.


We still have work to do but folks can take a look at the site here:

www.thefinalfrontear.com


It might take a while to roll out this link to all the projects.


Thank you for keeping us on our toes Whiskey :o)


(I've PM'd you.)
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2373) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : The Final Front Ear (Message 810735)
Posted 21 Sep 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

The Final Front Ear





The Biggest Little Team Anywhere.


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2374) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : The Final Front Ear (Message 797247)
Posted 13 Aug 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The Final Front Ear
(Proud To Be Different.)


Join Us And Become Part Of
The Biggest Littlest Team Ever.


.




Where ever ewe go there ewe are.



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2375) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Another New Moderator (Message 785625)
Posted 23 Jul 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Please join me in welcoming Johnney Guinness as a new moderator.



Johnney Guinness,


Thank you for taking up the challenge.

It is not an easy job.

Please make our forums flourish.


Thank you for standing up.
2376) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New Moderator (Message 785515)
Posted 22 Jul 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Thank you very much.
Uli


I keep geting deleted when I mention "moderator issue stuff" so I hope I won't be deleted saying this:

Uli,

We have faith in you.

Make our forums safe... but more than that... make our forums fun to be in.

It's a hard task you have accepted.

Thank you for stepping up to the mark.

cRunchy
2377) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My garden (Message 782434)
Posted 14 Jul 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
PS: (ICE: Have you ever thought about using your garden to produce food?... How about scrummy Magpie Pies :o))

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I don't think I'm cut out to be a farmer. I can grow potatoes, tomatoes, strawberries and have a couple of apple trees, but everything else I've tried to grow just hasn't been worth the effort with very little ending up in the kitchen. Magpies are protected, you have to leave them be.


I wasn't suggesting you be a "farmer".

A 'harvester's life is a bit more easy :o)


The law does not exclude you from consuming dead Magpies. (The law simply states you should not kill a Magpie without legal cause.)

Magpies are protected but you are allowed by law to defend crops, wild birds, public safety from them.


Hehehhe... Sorry. I am being cheeky...

I don't eat meat so I don't know what the taste difference between a Chicken, Turkey, Jackdaw, Magpie, Pigeon, Crow, Jay or Blackbird is :o)


Legally if you use a part of your land to feed yourself and Magpies disrupt this you do have the right to stop them.

If one or two die in the process there is no legal reason to stop you cooking them up :o)))



PS: Sorry: Crazy post by me... Hehe.. Ooops.. :o))
2378) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My garden (Message 782408)
Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
are those "interesting visitors" she magpies or young he magpies or something completely different.

I really don't know what they are. Magpies are often seen as black and white, but the black wings and tail, however, are a beautiful glossy, iridescent blue, green and purple. Or even more colourful in some cases.

....snip


I don't know what Magpies look like else where but here (Midlands UK) they are black and white with some metalic blue-ish bits.


... Click.


Culturally everyone treats them like they are royalty.

I live on the edge of my city and these little guys will suddenly turn up like a pack of bouncers 8 to 13 strong and spread themselves out over a garden or field intimidating and eeking out every tiny creature or fleshy morsel around.

The ones near me spread out in a loose diamond pattern 20 yards long on the ground. (The boss at the front and clever one at the rear.)

They are quite nice to watch as they are so brave.

They are well dressed little carnivors. (A bit like wasps but without the gaudy clothing..)




PS: (ICE: Have you ever thought about using your garden to produce food?... How about scrummy Magpie Pies :o))



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2379) Message boards : Politics : Child speaks at a UN meeting (Message 780639)
Posted 8 Jul 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQmz6Rbpnu0


.



Sad thing is that she was speaking 16 years ago (1992) and though near three quarters of a generation have past her message is still as poignant today as it was then.

It was a brilliant speech.

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2380) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My garden (Message 780617)
Posted 8 Jul 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIPY...
Unless it was a Queen bee. They have no barbs on their sting. They can sting away as often as they like, and fly away happily to go eat their rich royal jelly. They're not poor at all.



Yes but you have to be really tasty, special, lucky or crazy to be attacked by a queen.


You are probably more likely to win the top prize in the lottery than be stung by a queen bee :o)


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2381) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My garden (Message 780608)
Posted 8 Jul 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I got stung by a bee yesterday. Have been stung by yellow-jacket wasps before, but this one was an actual honeybee. My neighbor keeps several hives and I deliberately plant "bee-invitation" plants. Usually manage to garden in harmony with them.

The "incident" wasn't really the bee's fault. I think it was an old, sick, confused bee and my finger sort of collided with it.

Any gardener remedies for bee stings?


I was stung by a 2 inch long bright orange wasp once when I was in Pakistan and one of the local guys ran off to a lorry and brought back a piece of rag diped in diesel oil to place on the inflamation and a hot stone to put on top of that.

It worked.

Generally in western meds to help draw out localised poisoned sting or bite keep the wound clean and apply a hot pad/object to the area. (Not too hot though :o)



You have a painful finger Angela

... but don't worry revenge is sweet...

The bee probably riped it's bottom out stinging you..

Serves it right for stinging you..



Poor little bee has no bum now :o))



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2382) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Blasted D-Link Router! (Message 780523)
Posted 8 Jul 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP Lots...
Those shouldn't be a problem, unless the 900 MHz signal is very strong or there is some sort of unfortunate mix going on.


I'd agree with Ned here.

The problem is generally a matter of decoding through the noise of other signals. (Exactly what we are trying to do here in SETI..)


My mobile/cellular phone updates itself every so often (at full output/power) and if I leave it near to my computer I can hear noise through my pluged-in headphones (it affects my sound card) or via my bluetooth headphones.

When my phone updates I can also see a dip in the speed of my wireless card / router.

I've never had a disconnection though.

One issue with mobile / cellular phones is that if it can not get a good (or clean) signal it will increase it's power output.

If you place your mobile phone near to another radio / radiation source (EG: router, wireless card, power supply...) the phone will automatically increase the power of it's signal. (This may also force your wireless cards / router to increase the power of it's output....)

(PS: Generally when your phone shows the lowest signal / connection strength it is outputing the higest level of radiation / wattage it can.)

Neither signal is really corupting the other. Both may be causing noise for the other.


You may get drop-out or reduction in speed but I'd be amazed if you lost a connection.


The answer is: Make sure your mobile/cellular phone always has a good signal and keep it at least a 'yard or more away from your PC / router.

.


(Be interesting to see what the wattage output of a cellular phone is in comparison to a router or wireless card/device...)
2383) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Guitar Masters Thread........ (Message 780468)
Posted 8 Jul 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...
I thought I would open a thread where all are invited to add their favorite guitar master clips.....there's gotta be a million of them.

....SNIP


I like intricate spanish guitar:

Manitas de Plata - Por el camino de Ronda \ Sangre Flamenco.


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2384) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Blasted D-Link Router! (Message 780329)
Posted 7 Jul 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
It's our second D-Link router. We had a Dynex that worked for about 6 months. It started messing up, so my son bought a D-link, it screwed up within a week. He returned it figuring he bought a bad one. And got another. It messed up repeatedly until I just got fed up with letting it cool down & rebooting it, so he's returning it before the month warranty runs out. He's off buying something else.

Any ideas for a halfway decent router?

SNIP.....



I've always used NetGear for basic home stuff. I've never had one go down on me and NetGear has an extreemly good user forum where the techies get involved.

The router I use now however is a wireless OvisLink as it also offers an internal FTP / NAS via USB drive and a WebCam (with motion detection). (It's no longer on the market though.)

If you are going to buy a D-Link or Linksys I'd suggest updating it using the latest (downloadable) firmware. (Often the latest beta-firmware is the best.)

I like NetGear for basic use.


(PS. Oops Dune :o) Just noticed I was busy typing whilst you were posting. What router did your lad buy?)
2385) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [12] (Message 778522)
Posted 4 Jul 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
An 'all too familiar' clipping I stumbled upon:
Anyone contemplating becoming a believer will have to make a tough choice between life and death. He or she will have the option of submitting to Antichrist's rule or facing martyrdom. Those who decide to follow Antichrist will be compelled to receive a mark that will leave them eternally damned. Taking the martyrdom route will be no picnic.

Woe is me... ;)





2386) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . Happy Fourth of July to All (Message 778381)
Posted 4 Jul 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Happy 4th of July USA.


Independence is a thing of value and beauty.


Celebrate it always.


It was not just soldiers who died for our freedoms. It was not just the winning side that suffered.

Our ancestors who ever they were and from what ever side paid the price of the struggle.

That any of us any-where in the world from what-ever nation or culture has security or freedom is a direct result of those who fought to liberate themselves.

Happy Independence Day America.



cRunchy. UK.
2387) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy 4th of July to everyone else (Message 778379)
Posted 4 Jul 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Happy 4th of July USA.


Independence is a thing of value and beauty.


Celebrate it always.


cRunchy. UK.
2388) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My garden (Message 775203)
Posted 29 Jun 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Please feel free to tell us about your garden.
SNIP..


Ice you have such a posh garden. On top of that you are so good at taking photos. It is scary.

I am only mortal and all I have is a tiny scruffy patch of garden out back.

I didn't intend to have a scruffy patch but since all my neighbours have perfectly mown lawns I kind of couldn't resist maintaining a grassy oasis.

Sadly I also have the only fruit tree (Bird Cherry) in amongst my neighbours which means all the little birds perch there and the Magpies sit on the roof tops watching them with greedy eyes.

The noise in the morning is so loud.

Every so often a Magpie can be seen chomping down on a little tweety some where in my grass.

Here are a few images from my tiny patch of grass land.

(I hope msattler likes this.. :o)) )



Rivet Goes Exploring:


(.. and yes Rivet is my cat... but be warned though: he loves his pointy ears yet hates it when people say he looks like a tin can... ...

I love him. He never jumps on my computers. He loves exploring outside and I can shove a coax up his bum and get 30% improved coverage on my wifi..

He's my perfect cat :o))



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The next photo of Rivet is a "Wiggly" so don't look at him too long if you have a problem with flashing / wiggling images.




Rivet Shows Off:





(Rivet ponced around my garden then decided he wanted to shake his shiny bum in sudo-wiggly-3d.)

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My garden:... It's full of scruffy grass, a bird cherry tree, a log with a troll on it and rivet.

It's not a posh garden like your's though. :o)~

But it's all mine.... Hehehhehehhheee....



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2389) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [12] (Message 775082)
Posted 29 Jun 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Didn't know where else to post this: this thread seems apropos

And if you're interested in the other hundred non-muslim murders per day, feel free to watch the daily news... ;)


Yeah, but to murder one’s own child, well, that requires a special level of malevolence: just the thing religion specializes in... ;)


Leaving aside the arguement of abortion - It is not just Muslim's who kill their own children sometimes. Christians, Jews, Pagans, Atheists, Hindus, Agnostics and non-religious have done the same.

That we notice the stories about Muslim children being killed or harmed more than the sufferance of children in our own communities I suspect is more to do with the way our "news" tends to work and our (natural?) inability to question our own cultures.

It is a terror that young people in our world have to face such sufferance from the people they should be able to trust in.

It is to our absolute shame that women are at higher risk of being killed.


For me Kenzie your post (Message 774997) is not really a "religious" issue.

It's about the socio/psycho-pathic behaiviour of a father and son who lost their ability to see how precious this woman was.

No one can excuse themselves for harming another regardless of their religious, scientific, political, cultural, social or personal beliefs.

As a society and as a race of beings we (each and every one of us) are responsible to ensure we do our best to protect each other.



(PS: I do not believe that killing your own child is more malevolant than killing another person's child... We are all child to someone.)
2390) Message boards : Politics : War veterans get free travel in London (Message 775043)
Posted 29 Jun 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7476849.stm

How many other cities do this?


Relative to the news-story above every city, town, shire and part of Britain offers this service.

The story starts "Injured war veterans are to get free travel on London's transport network, it has been announced." (SNIPED)..

In the UK every person who is able to show a disability and makes an application to their local council has the oppourtunity to recieve a free local buss / rail / metro pass. (This is usually a single page form that requires health information and their doctors details.)

The story above is misleading as anyone injured or disabled in the UK who will continue to be so for a period has this right.

(Whether this right percists is another matter but it is legally in action across the UK at the moment.)


"War Veterans" with disabilities have the same rights as any other person in the UK.

I think it insulting that "London" should try to make out they are doing a good thing for our injured armed services when those people already have that right....


(PS: Birmingham / UK has an excellent local transport service in which it's disabled and long term injured population have access via local transport to the whole conurbation across the West Midlands that covers an area of over 12 million people <Geographically many times larger than London.>)


Well the article also says:

Under the new scheme, veterans and widows who are not eligible for a freedom pass are expected to save an average of £200 each a year.


So the veterans may not be covered under the rules that exist in Brum/West Mids.

Not sure where you got your figures on the relative sizes of West Mids (348 sq mi) vs London (609 sq mi), or their population size (London 7.5m vs West Mids 2.6m). If you're talking about the region, rather than the county, then, yes the geography is larger (WM region is 5,020 sq mi), but its population is still smaller (5.2m) than London's. However, this would be a little misleading when comparing travel permits, as in Brum, these are provided by Centro, which covers the county and not the region, and in London by TfL which covers the Greater London area.

Having lived in Brum for 2 years myself, and in London for somewhat longer, I'd say that public transport (mass transit in US parlance) in the capital, while not perfect, is somewhat better.



Bobby.

Centro is a recent development in the past few years. Centro provides no more services than the local council run "WMT" (or "WuMPTy") use to. <Centro appeared after deregulation and in general has provided us with no more than a few extra private companies who run old and crusty coaches and busses.> [The primary services in the West Mids are still run by WMT.]

My point wasn't to say the West Midland's public transport service is better than London's.

(Our public transport systems serve different geographic populations in different ways.)

It was just to say that "Disability" passes were already available across the country.


If you are saying London is now giving free public transport passes to armed service widows then that will be great news to any woman that has lost their serving husband. (I assume that also means that any man who has lost a wife who was in the services will also get the same honour..).

As to veterans. The story suggests 2600 (including widows) will benefit. I would have imagined there were more than 2600 veterans and widows (and widowers?) that existed in London. (We are talking about all veterans and grieving spouses over the past 42 years.. = Any service person pre-60..)

My problem with the story is that it does not add up unless you take into account the sentence "injured war veterans....."

Are there only 2600 veterans and widows (widowers) in London?

Personally I think we should be supporting our armed service personel far better than offering them a free buss pass.

It's nice if they get a free pass but they shouldn't need such a petty hand out.

Forgive me if I question the validity of "news" stories.

If you could show me the majority of those 2600 people would not have otherwise been awarded a free buss pass (under the current disability / long term injury) laws or consessions I would celebrate London's move and promote the same to my local council here in Brum.


I didn't mean to turn the arguement into which region was better than the other.

Sorry.
2391) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [12] (Message 774981)
Posted 29 Jun 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
It's very difficult to know that which doesn't exist.

The existence of God can be neither proven nor dis proven...

Snip...


That's your opinion :o)~

Snip...
However, I can certainly provide proof that Gods word exists...

... Snip


Aften the statement that the existence of "God" can not be proven one way or the other it would be interesting to see you provide "proof that Gods word exists"...

Knock yourself out :o)~


Snip...
What can you prove? ;)



I know you weren't talking to me but I bet I can prove that "I" exist, "you" exist and the "environment around us" exists.


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2392) Message boards : Politics : War veterans get free travel in London (Message 774924)
Posted 28 Jun 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7476849.stm

How many other cities do this?


Relative to the news-story above every city, town, shire and part of Britain offers this service.

The story starts "Injured war veterans are to get free travel on London's transport network, it has been announced." (SNIPED)..

In the UK every person who is able to show a disability and makes an application to their local council has the oppourtunity to recieve a free local buss / rail / metro pass. (This is usually a single page form that requires health information and their doctors details.)

The story above is misleading as anyone injured or disabled in the UK who will continue to be so for a period has this right.

(Whether this right percists is another matter but it is legally in action across the UK at the moment.)


"War Veterans" with disabilities have the same rights as any other person in the UK.

I think it insulting that "London" should try to make out they are doing a good thing for our injured armed services when those people already have that right....


(PS: Birmingham / UK has an excellent local transport service in which it's disabled and long term injured population have access via local transport to the whole conurbation across the West Midlands that covers an area of over 12 million people <Geographically many times larger than London.>)
2393) Message boards : Politics : An Oddity - Rising Food & Oil Prices But Falling Clothing Prices? (Message 772012)
Posted 22 Jun 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
@Rush.

SNIP....
Conversely, A DVD player relies very little on shipping costs because they don't need near overnight shipping. They use a conex on a container ship, which is probably the cheapest shipping there is. They aren't speed dependent, and the company that build them long since factored SLOW travel time into the price of the player.
SNIP...


DVD players probably rely more on shipping than people think. DVD players have hundreds if not thousands of components that are rarely sourced from one country.

We might read the words "made in xxx / china / japan / USA / Hong Kong .ect...) but that does not mean the components were. Mostly it means either the packaging, labelling or final construction happened there.

A DVD player = Screws from Germany. Plastic pelets pre-formation from India. Oil products mixed from 10 or more countries around the world. Gold from Africa. Aluminium from the USA. Glass from France. Silicon from Saudi. Germanium from the Baltics. Arsenic from Canada. Cyanide from Russia. Audio technology from Europe. Video Technology from the States. ..... Blah blah blah.

The reality is that a DVD player in it's pre-constructed state may include transport costs that are equal to circling the planet several times just for one final finished £20 product.

I do realise the same can happen with foods like vegetables and meats but with food these extra costs do not need to be there for most western or temperate climate countries.

A cow = Mom and Dad. Grass / vegetable matter. Kill the cow. Chop it up. Salt, preserve or cool. Transport less than 50 miles.

Unless of course you live in the UK where we eat chickens from china, eggs & milk & cheese from Europe, butter from Ireland, lamb from New Zealand, beef from America and alchohol from some factory god knows where...... (Tongue-in-cheek but true to a degree..)


As you say "apples and oranges"... Two fruits. Different foods. Neither is a DVD player however. ( :o)~ I'm being cheeky..)


@BrainSmashR
SNIP...
... How much to vaccinate a DVD player against diseases and protect your investment?
...SNIP


There are probably bio/chemists on this board that can answer this question better than I can but at a guess any company that want's it's DVD players (or electronic products) to last more that a year or two will have probably spent millions trying to avoid disease within their products.

Most film based technologies are susceptible to disease. Bacteria, microbes and virsues can strip the elements from the thin technologies used in cheap commodoties quite quickly. For example in certain parts of Africa a CD or DVD (even professionally mastered) will not last for more than a few months as the aluminium is a source of food for certain microbes.


I understand that there are many facets to the way end costs are arrived at.

That was never the point of this thread.


I still however think it odd that it is cheaper these days to dress yourself or watch a DVD than it is to feed yourself.


We can argue pure capitalist (or any political) ethics as long as we like but it is still bizaar when we are being told there is a shortage of food and the price is rising when products that have lesser health value are becoming more abundant and cost less.



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2394) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BSG (Message 771805)
Posted 22 Jun 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Do you really think / believe that they want to compete against Barrack vs Mccaine during the most important season of the year?


"Barrack vs Mccaine"?

Is that a 'sci-fi' or 'soap-opera'?...

(I'm not from the USA so forgive my ignorance... Hehehe...)


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2395) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Write Your Own Epitaph. (Message 771777)
Posted 22 Jun 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
(For fun..)

What immortal lines would you like on your epitaph or memorial?



Write your own epitaph:
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2396) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Es hits the big Three Six!! (Message 771699)
Posted 22 Jun 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...
Someone very near and dear to me was born 40 years ago today.
...SNIP


Who near and dear to you Rush has a birthday today?

We can celebrate them too...
2397) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Birthday wishes to Mike, KenzieB, & Esmé!!!! (Message 771493)
Posted 21 Jun 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Mike, KenzieB & Esmé,



Happy Birthday Folks.



I hope each of your days are filled with joy, friendship and peace.


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2398) Message boards : Politics : An Oddity - Rising Food & Oil Prices But Falling Clothing Prices? (Message 770007)
Posted 18 Jun 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Laughing Out Loud.

Scary Capitalist is presenting a "lopsided point of view" yet YOU can't comprehend why a cow is worth more than a cotton bush.


I can comprehend that it is you that is equating 'a cow' to 'a cotton bush'...

... I never equated a "single cotton bush" to anything...

I was talking about "cotton" per-ce as a vegetable harvest relative to foods humans generally eat relative to oil usage realtive to production.

... but just for fun tell me the cost of a cow... and then tell me the cost of cotton clothing weight for weight... but factor in production costs of clothing relative to the feed cows require. (But don't be stingy as there are many places around the world where cotton plants are the primary feed for cows...)


There are other odd things in the world of rising food prices too: In the UK weekly food shoping bills have risen yet the price of DVD players have fallen...
2399) Message boards : Politics : An Oddity - Rising Food & Oil Prices But Falling Clothing Prices? (Message 769940)
Posted 18 Jun 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

SNIP....



The cost of clothing being fallen is probably due to the devaluation of the dollar.

The price of cotton is not a determining factor here as there are competing products in line to supply the vacant demand.



Sorry 'Scary Capitalist' but that is a lop-sided (falling) point of view.


China and India have woken. They have vast natural resources including millions of impoverished but needy workers.

We can buy their clothes, cotton & products for pennies and sell them in our shops for 100 to 10,000 times as much. (Why not. We live in slap-on-a-logo / 10 cents print job society.... and a 50 cents T-shirt will sell for $20++++.)


Oh and by the way I wasn't talking about the price of cotton..... I was talking about the relationship of a number of commodities.

This thread isn't about stock market or capitalist world views..

It's about the oddity of expensive food yet low priced clothing which are in effect made of the same materials.

Do you know how rich in vitamins cotton is?

As to the devaluation of the dollar.... The UK is relatively expensive for almost all commodities.... However clothing prices has been falling on average regardless of whether the dollar went up or down...


At the end of the day however if we are going to starve at least we can afford to dress up and look good..



(PS: What are these "competing products in line to supply the vacant demand"?. Have you discovered a super product that has the same qualities and value that cotton has..?)


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2400) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BSG (Message 769839)
Posted 18 Jun 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP..... Most disappointing closing episode ever.



I should put a === spoiler === in here but since I too was rather disapointed with this episode (s4/e10) and because the majority of people in the UK haven't even yet seen the start of series 3 of BSG I would like to warn them:

IT's PANTS...


I suspect I know what is going to come next... Some Disney Magic.... and we will all live happily ever after...


Oh from the Martian Chronicles to the Planet of the Apes. Are these guys capable of original thought? ...SNIP...


No insult to Americans but most long standing sci-fi from the US seems to end in the producers wondering how they can end the series quickly...

(IE: Startrek... Rushed endings = Magical Salvations.)


I suspect we will get a Tinkerbell ending with a sprinkle of magic dust.

I spent 2 years (I was a slow starter) following this series...

Was it all a dream. Will there be a time warp.



Brilliant series but only Mickey Mouse could get them out of this conundrum.

But then... who knows....


I guess that sometimes in allegory we are knocked down before we are lifted..

Let's hope.



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2401) Message boards : Politics : An Oddity - Rising Food & Oil Prices But Falling Clothing Prices? (Message 769696)
Posted 18 Jun 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
We are told food prices are rising because of bad harvests, high animal feed prices and increasing oil prices yet at the same time the price of clothing has fallen dramatically.

(In the UK clothing prices have fallen by 16% over the past few years.)..

Now my question is that given most clothes are made of cotton mixed with petroleum fibres (rayon, nylon etc..) or wool how could we suggest harvests are poor, animals are under-fed or that petroleum costs are rising?

Cotton is a harvested natural material effected just as much by climate change as any other plant.

Petroleum fibres not only cost the processing into finer oils but have extended costs.

Wool on mass can only be harvested from animals that have a reasonable (mostly plant) diet.


Perhaps we should start feeding our livestock on cotton given it must be so much more abundant than tomatoes etc..

Perhaps we should stop adding petroleum fibres to our clothes and which tend to use even more petroleum in their production.

How is it that we are told food prices are increasing when clothing that uses plant, petroleum and animal products are falling?
2402) Message boards : Politics : Spirituality Thread (Message 769682)
Posted 18 Jun 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Who do you think are the greatest spiritual figures in our times or from the past?

(They do not have to be "religious" figures")

... and why do you think they are spiritual and great?


2403) Message boards : Politics : Oil and politics must mix............ (Message 765033)
Posted 8 Jun 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIPs...

Mark's original thread (this one) was hijacked and turned to a discussion on DNA and genetics. He abandoned this thread to whatever anyone wants to discuss, despite the heading.

His new thread will concentrate on the subject and title.



Oh Big Pants..

I am gulity too...

I just followed the discussion..

I suspect I also went way off topic.

Sorry :o(


(f there is now a new (on topic) thread do you not think it prudent to ask the mods to lock this thread? - After all this seems to be a failed topic..)
2404) Message boards : Politics : Oil and politics must mix............ (Message 765029)
Posted 8 Jun 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...

Actually, the term "humanoid" means having human form or characteristics, which would encompass all of the great apes, not just human beings. In fact, the term orangutan mean "man of the forest".

As far as us all having the same potential. Ask Es how many children die year after year after year in 3rd world countries from giving their babies contaminated water...seemingly without the ability to LEARN from their mistakes.



I am unsure of what you are trying to say or where you are going with this.

If I meant "Humanoids" or "Homosapiens" to include apes I would have said so.

I meant "us" (you, me and every one else.)

As far as I have seen every human has the same potential... (Every one of us is different but we all have the potential to be human!)


BS you are American.

That means you have a mixed heritage?

Do you know your background?

I know mine and even though I have a certain heritage and might "look" like I come from the uber race I just find it so sad that anyone would judge me based upon a few physical looks...

Your arguement about "contaminated water" comes from a different thread so I can't really reply well to it here. (You know that this thread is different I hope?)

As to asking "Es" (Esme).. I don't need to ask her anything as she is well capable of telling us exactly what she thinks.


BrainSmashR do you have a French heritage?

Maybe not.

I was wondering if you might be part Indian or perhaps Portuguese by decent?


I never imagined being humanoid meant I could be an ape.

I know we are linked but there is a distinctive difference for me.

If you feel you feel you are ape-like I can not help you BrainSmashR..


Sorry for being aggressive but you too own the right to be human even if you think you might be like an ape.


I am so proud of all the humans who have created a world that I can live in.

2405) Message boards : Politics : Spirituality Thread (Message 764643)
Posted 8 Jun 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

....but last night, I believe I saw the perfect description of the team name.

Chat was empty again?



You were there so not really empty :o)~





2406) Message boards : Politics : Oil and politics must mix............ (Message 764629)
Posted 8 Jun 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
From your Avatars and a photo I saw of you I wondered if [snip]

Looks can be deceiving... ;)


Actually looks do not deceive. Our eyes are pretty accurate.

Our assumptions however may fail us and we can misread what we see.

(PS: BrainSmashR: From your Avatars and a photo I saw of you I wondered if you had French ancestors? Am I wrong?)


BrainSmashR may not have a French heritage but I thought I saw that in his face & physique.. It's of no great issue. Just a thought.

I may be wrong.

He will say.
2407) Message boards : Politics : Spirituality Thread (Message 764621)
Posted 8 Jun 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Depending on your idea of " spirituality "..this may qualify.

...SNIP...

A couple of years ago, I formed a team on BOINC and called it Calm Chaos.

... Snip.


Call it faith, spirit or just your dedication "Calm Chaos" is a team that exists and has members who like being part of it.

There are those who quote rules and then there are those who make the spirit of the idea live.

You gave "Calm Chaos" life...

... That is special.

Depending on your idea of " spirituality "..
Snip..


Who knows until it happens.


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2408) Message boards : Politics : Oil and politics must mix............ (Message 764594)
Posted 8 Jun 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
You know, this brings up an interesting topic....for me anyway.

How is it that you're utilizing DNA to identify the racial make-up of people, when according to you liberals, we are all human and biologically no different from any other human being.

What a tangled web we weave...


We often use the term "Human race" but since we (homosapiens) are the only form of humanoids the term "race" has no real value.

Racists tend to divide us humans up into "races" so that they can suggest that one group (colour) is better than another.

For me the use of DNA does not divide humans into different races.

For me we are a single form of being.

But we do have a long path through history and have slightly different forms and a vast range of ethnic and cultural expressions.

DNA has helped us understand that we have all come from the same family.

Am I liberal for knowing regardless of colour, shape, size that we all have the same potential?

Being able to decode and use DNA evidence is an excellent tool.

We no longer have to accept fascists who believe they are born of a pure 'race'.. We can DNA test them.. All purists will fail...



You and I may well be related within the past 10 or 20 generations or earlier :o)~.

Scary hey.


(PS: BrainSmashR: From your Avatars and a photo I saw of you I wondered if you had French ancestors? Am I wrong?)

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2409) Message boards : Politics : Spirituality Thread (Message 764561)
Posted 8 Jun 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
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Bump.

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2410) Message boards : Politics : A World Without Oil. (Message 764518)
Posted 8 Jun 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I believe our lives would become much more 'localised' in the long term.

That would definitely make it much easier for big brother to keep tabs on us... ;)


During the so called "Dark Ages" in the UK and Europe the Roman Empire (The State = Ergo "Big Brother") receeded back towards Italy because Rome's resources were failing.

However in the "Dark Ages" the lives and well being of the populations of the countries the Romans left improved imeasurably. (The communities retained Roman skills but lost the governmental political structures, influences and organisation.)

(The term "Dark Ages" simply refers to the lack of "written records" (lack of 'light') and not to "dark" as in "bad"..)


If the populous has no petrol or oil then the government or powerful bodies (EG: Big Bother :o) would also suffer the same to a degree... and would have less power to control us in that feared totalitarian way.


The Nazi system in WW2 was only able to control it's people because sadly the "self-controlling, willing, needy, frightened, impoverished or self-righteous" populous in general opted in or allowed it.)

Hopefully by now we have been more able to educate and create greater aspirations amongst our people.. Hopefully!?


I suspect if oil and petrol production failed we would quickly revert to a 1920's style industry although like in the "Dark Ages" we would retain to some degree our current technological skills and knowledge.


It would be a volatile time.
2411) Message boards : Cafe SETI : End of the Television set? (Message 764471)
Posted 7 Jun 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


> so, there ya go - no more license fees - THAT's a good sign eh . . .

Thanks for that Post Chris - Hope all is Well w/ you & your lady



Well, firstly they'll have to levy the money from an alternative source, and secondly it won't work until we all have faster broadband (21CN).

All is well this end Richard, thanks for asking.



You'll have the Guardian readers up in arms, Chris, if it happens!


Now now, you little stirrer!


That's quite a naughty political arguement. (Just for the non-UKers amongst us "The Guardian" is accepted as the newspaper read by the UK's 'professional classes who are left of centre'... Ergo: Evil 'socialists' :o)~)



Many TV companies in the UK already provide a 'catch up' service via the net where people can rewatch various channel specific programs.

There has already been complaints by various ISPs about these streamed TV programs as they use far too much bandwidth.


If you watch standard 'cable' TV they have been using streamed compressed programs for years. They are often pixelised and blocky and often chop out every now and again whilst the system updates.

If you have ever watched Sci-Fi like "Star-Trek" you might have noticed the lag between image and sound.

The Virgin home channels often have a lag of a few milliseconds.

This pixelisation and lag suggest we already have internet style compression, streaming and technology on our TV sets.


No more TV license fees = An impoversished BBC?

If the BBC disapears I would miss it. No adverts, a cultural standard and an icon of British media.


However I hate how big and fat my TV box is.

I would never use a TFT (LCD) screen as they are pretty poor (blocky and pixelised.)

Give me a plasma screen.


Am I right in thinking current (VHF/basic cable) TV quality requires a "constant" 4 to 8MB /ps compressed stream.

This could be almost achievable for most homes using cable inet locally but I think the 'core' network (ISP<>ISP<>Media Servers) need updating.



I wonder if because we the end users pay for our broadband we might get fewer adverts? (I doubt it.)



It's an interesting time.


PS: One of the issues is that many of the TV companies offering streams at the moment expect you to either download their own proprietry software to watch their programs or require you to sign-up to their website...

Could you imagine having to sign up to 100 different services to get the same services you now get in one place over your TV box???...

I hope The Guardian readers and every other community will ask more questions as to how inet TV will work and benefit us...


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2412) Message boards : Politics : Corporations (Message 761286)
Posted 31 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIPs...

We are responsible for our actions as individuals but companies who have far more power and ability to know better are far more responsible.

Have you ever seen a company that was NOT made up of individuals?

The figure of speech you have utilized here is called a personification. Simply put, you have given human qualities to an inanimate object.


SNIP.


All I can tell you is that a company under British law is not a collection of individuals but is a legal entity / body in itself. This is why we use the terms company or corporation.

The activities of a corporation or company may well be the collective actions of all it's workers, directors, members but there is a very real and legal difference to the actions of individual people.

If you can not understand this concept just ask yourself if you as an individual person have the same power or control that your government does...

A challenge:

Just for fun and to prove your point that poor people have choices why not switch off your water-main to your house (your piped tap water) and go see if you can find some other company to provide you with a new supply (that can supply ALL your normal needs) that does not use your original pipeline...


There is nothing like personal experience to prove what we say.

Switch off your water-main for a week and let us know how it works.

You up for the challenge?


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2413) Message boards : Politics : Corporations (Message 761280)
Posted 31 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
More fun with Nestle

And yet, you or everyone who thinks like you do could just go in there and provide the products that Nestle does, safely, without any of this list of eeeevils.

You could just give them the formula, the water, whatever they need, and almost instantly put Nestle out of business there. You could do it as a non-profit corporation like Sesame Workshop or Paul Newman/Newman's Own.

Yet you don't. What are you waiting for?



That's a stupid arguement.

Nestle has been going since 1867.

Do you really expect an individual to be able to create a company with such power in a day on your whim?

I thought you understood bussiness and it's development?

2414) Message boards : Politics : Corporations (Message 761275)
Posted 31 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
BIG SNIP...

Nestle by the way has already been caught out for selling (dumping) it's out-of-date milk products in Africa.


Well I'm not sure how FDA regulations apply to goods sold in foreign countries, but again, the term "selling" implies that the consumer had a choice.


FDA has no relevance here as it is an American (USA) agency.

Nestle is a European company. It has had a long imperial history in the same way companies like Cadburies have.

I can not help you if you believe that the water you get through your pipes come from different companies.

You may pay an agent company at different rates but the water you get comes from one source.

Pay who you like but unless you can afford bottled water to drink, bath in, cook your food in, wash any cuts you might have with, wash your hair in at 100 to 1000 times the cost of simple tap water you will always get the same source of water.

The only choice you have over water is to pay more or less or not drink at all.

Poor people have zero choice over the water they get.

They may be buyers but they have no choice.

If their water is contaminated they pay the same.

If for some odd reason your tap water became contaminated you too would have no choice...


(Does anyone remember the early advertisements by Nestle?)
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2415) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Dogbytes (Message 761218)
Posted 31 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
(Please do not press "reply" on this post as it is very long....)


Unfortunately I cannot open the XHTML dedication files.

Something to do with file type not being recognised. Where do I go to get a application to open the dedication?



XML (XHTML) should be opened by your browser without you ever noticing.


Are you using an older version of "Internet Explorer"? (Possibly IE Version 6 for XP?)

I tried my IE and got a similar problem.

However I never use IE.

My normal browser has no problems. (Opera 9+)


Just a guess but you might need to update your version of IE... OR Siran needs to recode his pages..



If Siran does not mind I will do a plain text copy of his web page here for those who can not negotiate javascript / xml menus and xml pages..

(If Siran or anyone thinks I should not copy this text here just red-x my post and it will be removed.)

However I think it is worth sharing because Siran collected the voices of many that cared for DogBytes.



Text Version Of Siran's DogBytes Pages:


Dedications Page for Dennis "Dogbytes" Peters
??? ??, 1949? - December 21, 2007


Anonymous Missives
I will miss Dennis sense of decency and caring nature...and i will miss his ribald and outrageous sense of humor...The echo of his hearty laughter on Skype is a sweet sound that i shall never hear again.

Dennis your Spirit walks amongst those that have returned home before you. May you once again find peace.

Dennis was a man who knew how to be human and how to share his unique view on life.

I spoke to him once on the phone. He had a very warm way of being and was one of those people who made you feel immediately at ease.

I'll miss him because he often stopped us in our tracks and then some how made us sparkle with his own sense of humour..

My fondest memory of Dennis was getting drunk with him on Skype... A bottle of rum creme fell in Stockton, CA and a Bottle of Rum fell in Las Vegas.

Ohhhh that was one of the nights that Keith got the 3AM call.....

I miss Dennis! I will ALWAYS think of Dennis! If Dennis is in the place I go when I die I hope he is saving me a seat!

I do some things now because Dennis told me too! They seemed right at the time and they still do. Dennis seemed to have had an influence on alot of people in his time on this Earth. I hope we all make as many friends as Dennis did,

I hope as many people can say nice things about us like we all are for Dennis. I will always consider Dennis a friend and I MISS my friend! I know Life threw Dennis some curve balls,

I hope wherever he is it is better! I think I will lift a glass to my friend tonite and the next time I find a bar with his favorite beer I think I will have one to remember my friend!

Dedications from Cruncher's Cafe
*** Friday, January 18, 2008: ***

Dune Finkleberry
Keith Stanley has just confirmed...........
There's no easy way...
On 21st December, 2007, at 1.00pm Dennis passed away...

Please remember our dear friend DB. :-(

Thorin Belvrog
This makes me so incredibly sad. I lost a friend with him :-(

If Dennis has a family - let them please know I pray for them, too.

Bill
R.I.P., Dennis. :-(

Hev
A year ago he spent christmas with us :-(

Agamemnon
Oh good grief, I'm so sorry to hear that. I never met him, but really liked him. :-(
Thanks for telling us all Dune, we should also put something on Seti main.

Ratavar
:-( I thought he was mad at me...

Monday
Thank you Dune For letting us know This very sad news.
Dennis was a good friend and will be sadly missed.

John Clark
Dennis used to hold long, and quite frequent Skype conversations with me last year, even after his heart trouble.

I was also privileged to meet him, when laughingboy brought both of them down here. We went for a bar meal and several pints, before returning back here for a natter.

I will miss him, and hope Jeremy can find his Obit in the Vegas papers.

Saenger
That's a sad news, he really was one of the fine guys I "met" in BOINC.
Condolences to his relatives and personal friends.

Miss CoconutMoon
To Dennis
with my respect..
Rest in Peace.

Es99
I am too stunned at the moment to take this on board properly.

Stacey Jane
I didn't know Dennis very well, but he always made me laugh.

The best way to honour his life is to keep his memory alive, share stories about the happy times and maybe some of the sad. He will live on in our hearts.

danielmid
I didn't have the pleasure of his company, but did chat with him on numerous occasions. His presence will be missed greatly. RIP ol friend, and may the God of your choosing welcome you with open arms.

Siran d'Vel'nahr
This makes 2 of my BOINC/SETI friends that have passed on. This really sucks. I am trying to hold back the tears. It's Rocky all over again! Damn....! RIP my friend!

Red Atomic
R.I.P. DogBytes.
I will miss our chats.
You Will be missed.

Bluebottle
..and then there was the time he stayed with my family over here in the UK.

The plan was he would be with us for two or three days...he enjoyed himself so much..he stayed for almost two weeks.

I wished now I'd taken that picture of him trying to ride a bike...

They were great times....

Al MacReady
Damn horrible news :-(
Rest in peace ol buddy.

Daniel
When i remember my early days at SETI/BOINC...I remember Dennis...He was a big part of the fun of the whole thing on the boards...In the days before moderation it was a lot like the wild west on the SETI boards and Dennis posted some pretty wild stuff...In fact he kept on doing it till he passed away...At first i was a bit leery of Dogbytes...He seemed like a cantankerous and somewhat dangerous personality...But in a while i learned he was one of the kindest and most giving people i have ever known...RIP Dennis...You were truly one of a kind...and i will miss you always.

Dune Finkleberry
This just in on the TFFE boards from Jack Lass.... One of DB's best buddy's!

The Remains of Dog_Bytes

Because Dennis had no family, and because we weren't able to get in touch with him for several weeks, it was not until today (1/18/08) that I learned from the Las Vegas Police Department that he had died on December 21st. Because the Clark County Coroner had no way to find anyone to see to Dennis' body, he was assigned to a mortuary in town. On contacting the coroner I was given the name of the mortuary and when I called they told me they were planning to cremate him this weekend. They asked if I wanted any kind of service, and of course, knowing Dennis, I declined. However, I plan to fly to Las Vegas next week both to help the Clark County Administrator locate and inventory Dennis' self storage locker, and to pick up his ashes and bring them home with me.

This brings me to the reason I am posting this here where those of us who knew and loved him can make a decision. First, a brief prologue which I hope nobody will find offensive (though if you do, in the spirit of Dog_Bytes, tough).

Many years ago when my mother died we had her body cremated. When I brought her ashes home my wife and I decided that we didn't want to keep them in some fancy urn in the living room and so came up with the following idea. Because my mother lived in apartments all her life and because she was so thrilled that I had a house with a garden, we decided that whenever we would plant a tree or a shrub or bulbs or whatever, we would mix some of mom into the soil to help things grow. This we did and no day goes by that I can't look out of a window and remember her. When people ask me where my mother is I happily, and literally, tell them: "She's pushing up the daisies." Dennis got a big kick out of this story, and so I've decided to let Dennis, too, "push up the daisies."

The reason I've gone on at such length is the following. While there's not much left after a body is cremated, if any of you would also like some of Dog_Bytes ashes to create a small memorial I would be happy to send them to you. If you do want some (and I assure you they are sterile, and inoffensive) please let me know by email jlass (at) starpower.net or phone (1-301-656-1893).

Wishing you all a healthy, happy and prosperous 2008, I remain,

Your fellow Earian
Jack Lass

Ice
I feel quite upset about this news. I can't say anything about it just now.

Gavin Shaw
I will miss Dennis.
It's a shame it had to happen to him.
I hope he is happy wherever he is now.

Rest in Piece...

Labbie
I just got back in town and am distressed by this news.
Farewell Doggy, we'll miss you.

Ice
Dennis DogBytes was a good friend to me. Ever helpful, one of my first moderators on SETIsupporters and Cruncher's Cafe. He always gave useful advice and council, and I'll miss him a lot. Cheers Dennis, for all your help, your humour and your friendship.

purplemkayel
Peace, Dennis.

Bluebottle
For my pal..

When the tears come streaming down your face
When you lose something you can't replace
When you love someone but it goes to waste
Could it be worse?

Lights will guide you home
And ignite your bones
And I will try to fix you

And high up above or down below
When you're too in love to let it go
But if you never try you'll never know
"Just what your worth"

Lights will guide you home
And ignite your bones
And I will try to fix you

Stealth Eagle
DB and I used to have sparring sessions on Seti, it was such fun and I got a lot of laughs from him. I will miss him very much, and send my condolences to his family and local friends where ever they may be. I know he is in a much better place.
RIP DB

Dr. C.E.T.I.
. . . to an ol' bud - We Shall Miss You Dennis
. . . Condolences are Hereby Sent to the Family as Well
SuperBuZZ
Dennis you will be greatly missed by all of us and I will always remember the skype calls over the pond in the wee hours. You were priceless. R I P Buddy.
:-(

Dark Angel
Thanks for letting us know Dune. I'm coming to this thread late in the evening...wish it was under better conditions. I had numerous chats with DB and even had the pleasure of being mod'd by him back in the day on SETI. He will be dearly missed. May he rest in peace.

nevermorestr
I don't know what to say.

...

I'm glad that he was able to find "family", though not by blood relation but by those who will cherish the memories of him. It is good to know that he made a positive impact on so many people's lives. I think that is more notable than a plaque on a building's cornerstone any day.

*** Saturday, January 19, 2008: ***

Mike
I was really shocked when i saw this bad news last night.
I had a long talk with him on skype last december.
He told me about his heart problems.

What i like to say is that i'm proud i know him and call him a friend.

R I P Dennis my friend.

TimeLord04
R.I.P. Dennis. God bless you and welcome you home to eternity in Heaven.

ScanMan
Gods Speed Dennis!!
God Bless adn Keep you as you enter Heaven adn beyond!
My thoughts and Prayers are with you !!!
Regards

Matthew Love aka ScanMan

mikey
Dennis I MISS you! Others WILL miss you! Dennis was a GREAT friend and a GREAT Teammate! I can honestly say I do some things now because Dennis told me too!

*** Sunday, January 20, 2008: ***

cRunchy
Dogbytes Forever

Dennis was a man who knew how to be human and how to share his unique view on life.

I spoke to him once on the phone. He had a very warm way of being and was one of those people who made you feel immediately at ease.

I'll miss him because he often stopped us in our tracks and then some how made us sparkle with his own sense of humour..

Dogbytes Forever

*** Monday, January 21, 2008: ***

Daniel
This is reposted from December 21, 2007...

"We're Never Really Gone"

i won't see you this year
but i still remember
the memories won't die
they'll last forever
and if sometime
where you are
you stop and think of me
i believe i'll know it
just the way we used to be

i won't see you this year
but i won't forget you
that time in our lives
we were really together
and if by chance
you think of those old times
i hope that you remember
all the joy we used to find

we're never really gone
as long as we remember
we're never really old
as long as we remember
i see the lights
i see the sights
i think of you and me
and i smile
for times behind
and the way we used to be

(2007 db michel)

Daniel
"The Nature of Life"

there will be times
when some of those that we have gathered in friendship
fall away
some forever lost
some just absent for a time
but those who fall away are soon replaced by others
whom we have not yet known
the gathering
the separation
and the gathering again
do not weep
for it has always been this way
this is the nature of life

(db michel)

Dedications from SETI Prime Cafe
*** Friday, January 18, 2008: ***

Gnu
On 21 December, 2007 a light went out.
What else can I say...I'm going to miss him.

Blurf
RIP Dogbytes....be at peace.

Sarge
R.I.P., Dennis.
:(

KB7RZF
This comes as very sad news. A dedicated cruncher to many projects, and a damn nice guy. He is gonna be missed dearly. Rest in Peace my friend, we will never forget you buddy.

Jeremy

Chris S
I never met Dennis, but I really liked him. I am so sorry to hear the news. :-(

The Curmudgeon
Oh Hell! That is very sad news.

Sheila and I were privileged to meet with him, when Laughingboy brought him down last summer (when it rained and flooded). We had a good bar meal, several pints of Timmy Taylors Landlord and a long chat, before they returned to the Manchester area.

He was a hell of a companion, and we spent many hours on Skype. But this fell away since his heart problems, and now I know why. This was his completing chapter.

I am sorry he has gone, and it is right he will be missed. Dennis Peters was one who knew his mind, was honest and gave politically correct fools what they deserved.

He will be missed by us, this side of the pond

RIP Dennis, my lad ... so young as well!

Captain Avatar
(photo of Dennis)

I have more I will post but This was Dennis when he was happy....

I will miss him...

dwilson
Goodbye Dennis.

kenzieB

Jim S
Sad News.
Rest in Peace Dawg. :-(

arizona moon
I am very sorry...
To Dennis ..with respect

RIP.

MzSnowleopard
Some people come in to your life with such little contact but then- they have a huge impact.

kaseychief
THE WORLD HAS LOST ONE OF IT'S BRIGHTEST LIGHTS.
YOU WILL BE MISSED BY ALL OF US.

R.I.P.

Crunch3r
I'm very sorry to hear that.
My sincerest condolences to his family and friends.

REST IN PEACE.

Daniel
RIP Dennis, we will all miss you.

Mike Buckingham
God bless Dennis, his family and all of you.

Red Atomic
R.I.P. DogBytes.
I will miss our chats.

The Gas Giant
Very sad news. I will miss him, his honesty and his good humour.

Dennis was one of the good ones!

Monday
Dennis was a good friend and will be sadly missed.

RIP Dennis

Daniel Michel
I was already missing him...And now i know why...I will miss Dennis (Dogbytes) and his wicked sense of humor and the echoes of his hearty laugh on Skype...He was a good friend to many of us...and an excellent comrade...Being a part of SETI was alot more fun while Dennis was around...Because his outrageousness helped make it so.

Al
RIP old buddy.

Gavin Shaw
I miss his presence around here and other places.
Its a shame I didn't get to know him for longer.

Rest in piece friend.

*** Saturday, January 19, 2008: ***

Ice
Dennis DogBytes was a good friend to me, ever helpful, one of my first moderators on SETIsupporters and it's successor. He always gave useful advice and council, and I'll miss him a lot. Cheers Dennis, for all your help, your humour and your friendship.

purplemkayel
Rest in Peace, Dennis. I may not have known him long but I do miss his humour.

RichaG
RIP

Mr Mistoffelees
I didn't know him, but I feel the loss reading all that's been written here. My condolances to you all, and to him...R.I.P.

Dr C.E.T.I.
. . . to an ol' bud - We Shall Miss You Dennis . . . Condolences are Hereby Sent to the Family as Well

Johnny Guiness
See ya later DogBytes, sad news.

Sirius B
Rest in Peace Dennis.

Contact
This hits me hard.
I only knew him as Dogbytes.
He was too beautiful to describe.

A/C
Sad, and quite unexpected. I thought that he had overcome the health problems he was having.

Scarecrow
Sad, and quite unexpected. I thought that he had overcome the health problems he was having.
As did I. Very sad news indeed. Condolences to family and friends.

Knightmare
Damn. Last time I saw him in our chat he said he wasn't feeling well...now I find this out.

R.I.P. Dennis, my friend.

Mike
I was talking to him on skype last december.
He told me he had two heart attacks and he dont felt well.

It was a pleasure to know him and i can call him my friend.

Rest in peace Dennis.

champ
Ooooohhh no. Thats very bad news.

R.I P - Dennis.

GreggyBee
I don't visit here any more,
but wished to pay my respects to Dennis and his Family.

Bark on in Doggy Heaven, mate.

TimeLord04
R.I.P. Dennis, my friend. Thanks for your help, and your kindness. God bless you and your family.

Michael T. Allison Retired USN
God rest in peace brother.

Francis Noel
Oh my...
My sincere sympathies to family, friends...

I knew DB very little, but what I did know of him was entirely positive, strong and true.

Farewell, Sir.

Captain Avatar
Dog didn't have a family except for us and TFFE
Love him or hate him I got to know the Dog pretty
well and I tell ya, He had a heart of gold and
would do anything for you.

Captain Avatar
Dune Finkleberry sent his condolences also

From Dune:
I've been in shock over the passing of my (our) friend Dennis Peters AKA DogBytes. I'm still coming to terms over his death and am saddened to hear this news. Dennis was a straight shooter, who will be missed by myself & others. No words can convey my sadness. So to those who knew & loved the guy, I wish to convey my deepest condolences.
*** Sunday, January 20, 2008: ***

Albert Einstein
R.I.P Dennis, you will be missed by us all.

Es99 (part i)
I can't even begin to describe how sad i am about this news. Dennis was one of the kindest people to post here on seti. He never held back an opinion..his straight talking was often outrageous and hilarious. He bought real life to this message board and I know we shall all miss him. I remember when he was made a mod and I thought "oh my..this will be interesting" but he took it really seriously and tried so hard to be fair do a good job. It was a proud time for him to moderate the board where he has made so many good friends. Friends who he took the trouble to meet in real life. He stayed with us for Christmas a year ago, I am not sure he got over the shock of my kids...he wasn't a kid person :D but my son was sad to hear about his death too. He said "even though he was grumpy I still really liked him" I know that he was in a lot of pain and discomfort even then. I can't say how much he will be missed. There just aren't the words.

Mad Max
May Doggie rest peaceful in the great sky kennel.

Mathew Love
Gods Speed Dennis wishing you the best !! To Infinity and Beyond!!

Regards

Matthew Love

[BAT] MaDr
Rest In Peace, You'll be missed.

*** Monday, January 21, 2008: ***

cRunchy
Dogbytes Forever


Dennis was a man who knew how to be human and how to share his unique view on life.

I spoke to him once on the phone. He had a warm and friendly way of being and was one of those people who made you feel immediately at ease.

I'll miss him because he often stopped us in our tracks and then some how made us sparkle with his very own sense of humour..


Dogbytes Forever

Daniel Michel
I'm posting this on behalf of nevermorestr...

nevermorestr:
"I don't know what to say.

...

I'm glad that he was able to find "family", though not by blood relation but by those who will cherish the memories of him. It is good to know that he made a positive impact on so many people's lives. I think that is more notable than a plaque on a building's cornerstone any day."
Janus
Sad news indeed. May he rest in peace.

Henri Tapani Heinonen
Please, accept my condolences.

Henri.

*** Tuesday, January 22, 2008: ***

Fat B
Just passing through to express my condolences on hearing the sad news about the loss of our friend "Dogbytes" I am extremely saddened to hear the news and I find it difficult to comment further on some of the kind and affectionate words said by those before me other than "Dennis, may you now find the peace that evaded you recently and don't give Rocky too much of a hard time"...

"I will always remember you!"

Your grumpy old friend from Scotland

FatB

*** Friday, January 25, 2008: ***

Saenger
Now that I crunched one last WU here I can as well give my condolences to all his friends and family.

Feel free to join the Team "For Dennis Peters aka DogBytes" at malariacontrol in memoriam to this fine person and crunch some WUs for him.

It was really a sad day, that 21. December last year.

The dog will be missed :(

blarg
I didn't know him too well, but he was Amazing R.I.P. mi amigo

Gordon
This guy was one of the first people I noticed on here, a few years ago. I know I do not have much credit, my account was messed up but I have been around. R.I.P. sad I did not get to talk with him. G

*** Tuesday, January 29, 2008: ***

Beethoven
I was already missing him...And now i know why...I will miss Dennis (Dogbytes) and his wicked sense of humor and the echoes of his hearty laugh on Skype...He was a good friend to many of us...and an excellent comrade...Being a part of SETI was alot more fun while Dennis was around...Because his outrageousness helped make it so.
That's how i remember him too, Dan. :]]

Dennis personified loyalty. He'd do anything for a friend and also against an enemy of his friends. His laughs as well as his barbs will be greatly missed. I'll be sure to say "Yizkor", the prayer of remembrance in his religion, on the anniversary of his passing.

And let's say this about Dennis too: he lived a life. Truly he did.

LeChaim Dennis! To Life! Well done!

*** Monday, February 4, 2008: ***

Scary Capitalist
Many of you probably won't believe me when I tell you that I got to be a bit of a friend to Dennis. 2 or so years ago we were not that way. I got to speaking with him on brief occasion.

I was out of town for a while recently and also 'ahem' absent from posting here.

But if anyone could kindly refer me to an address where I might send his friends or loved ones a condolences card I would appreciate it.

*** Tuesday, April 1, 2008: ***

Gnu
Just to let you know, Dennis has finally been cremated.

His ashes are now with Jack Lass in Washington, which will be his final resting place.

One or two of his friends...not just in TFFE..but those he met on his travels or through the projects he crunched for have expressed a wish for some of his ashes as a remembrance to plant a tree or shrub in his name.

I hope no one is offended by this idea, knowing Dennis...he'd be having a damn good chuckle..


To quote Jack:
"I know that Dennis cared very deeply about our team and about the many members whom he met or with whom he conversed on the boards or by Email. I think that "spreading" him around the world will be a fitting tribute to someone who lived at one time or another on every continent but Antarctica. So do think about this and let me know soon. There won't be a lot of ashes --we don't turn into much when we're gone-- but a little can go a long way when planting new life."
So if anyone would like to remember Dennis in this way please send me a PM.

Cheers,

Keith

*** Saturday, May 10, 2008: ***

Hans Dorn
RIP

Thucydides
(from Dune Finkleberry)
This is a clumsy bump. I am waiting by the mailbox. Patiently.
Dune, thank you for the clumsy 'Bump'. I met Dennis many times here. I met him twice in the flesh with Hev and Es at the secret drinking holes in London. A more genuine and friendly spirit would be hard to find. I count myself privileged and lucky to have met him in person. He will be missed here, genuinely and sadly. We who are left are the poorer for his passing. I will never forget you my friend. Never.

Dune Finkleberry
In time this thread will pass, but the memories will still be there.

Now is not the time for the thread to pass. I've never met DB in person, but his gruff no nonsense way he approached life will forever stay with me. He died too soon, & left many friends to wonder "what if".

I'm just glad he took the time to know me, even if I was sometimes nonchalant about it. Thanks for being there.

*** Sunday, May 11, 2008: ***

WB
RIP Dennis. You helped me out years ago, and we exchanged a few emails.

I'm very saddened to come back after being away from Seti to find that you've gone.

Won't forget you.

:(

mrgray
I'll miss you DB,

But we'll see each other again in a time.

*** Friday, May 30, 2008: ***

Siran d'Vel'nahr
Greetings everyone,

As I did a few years ago, so have I done again today. I have created another dedication page on my BOINC website for Dennis "Dogbytes" Peters. This is my tribute to 2 great people I so briefly knew in this lifetime. I am proud to call them my friends. Rocky and Dogbytes will never be forgotten. My sig has the link to my website. Enjoy! -- Siran

Live long and prosper \\V/_



Copyright © '05-2008 - Siran's BOINC News Site - All rights reserved.

2416) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Competition - How Many Biccies In My Bowl? (Message 761198)
Posted 31 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
WHAT?!?!?! ME??!?!?!! crazy... I just picked a number in an area no-one else was guessing in.....

~BoB


Yes you Bob.

It's such a nice thing that you won this.

Well done.



The doggie will go out soon.
Let us know when it arrives safe.
2417) Message boards : Politics : A World Without Oil. (Message 761181)
Posted 31 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
If the world's supply of oil suddenly ran out what would you do?

Most of our jobs would become redundant.

A depressing thought but an interesting one.

Needing to feed yourself or your family how do you think you might adapt?


What skills do you have that you could use in a world without petrol?



.
2418) Message boards : Politics : Corporations (Message 761144)
Posted 31 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP....

We ARE responsible for our actions.

The product Nestle markets is perfectly safe, it's the water the consumer utilizes that is poisonous.


We are responsible for our actions as individuals but companies who have far more power and ability to know better are far more responsible.

Nestle markets its baby milk products to poor countries knowing that 1 in 4 of the children that use it's product will die.

What Nestle should be doing is using it's resources to offer milk supplements AND clean water technologies.

The use of the term "consumer" when we talk about water is a falsity. Most people in poor countries are not "consumers" in the Western (buyer) sense.

They are either 'subjects' that have no other options or 'victims' of poor water treatment.

Of course 'We ARE responsible for our actions.'

To be gross and unfair: In the Nazi extermination camps and in extreme situations people ate sawdust and wood because that was all they had.

Nestle is a powerfull company.

I suspect one of the reasons that so many babies die in poor countries where Nestle products are used is not simply because of the poor quality of the water but because mothers are persuaded away from breast feeding.

Not every woman can breast feed but if they can then they not only feed their children better than Nestle could ever do but they pass on immunity from or tollerance to local illnesses.

Nestle by the way has already been caught out for selling (dumping) it's out-of-date milk products in Africa.

The poor are individuals by nature of their condition.

Companies like Nestle have far more power to make choices.

Responsibility is a sliding scale when we talk about the things that effect thousands upon thousands.


I hope the water than comes through our taps never turns sour.

We only have one source.

We may be consumers in terms of needing to drink water but we are not consumers who have choice.


.
2419) Message boards : Politics : Fun with online "Communities!!" (Message 761047)
Posted 31 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
It's just a little easier to pretend to be something you're are not over the internet.

You can dress a bum in a suit, but he will still behave like a bum... ;)


If you or I try to dress a so called "bum" in a suit then I am sure they will continue to be a "bum"..

... but if they dress themselves in a suit....

then you will see the difference...


People say 'beggars should not be choosers'..
. (They should just accept what they are given.)

... but if beggars are not choosers how will they become something different?



On the internet communication is complex and not so easy but we do it here on SETI.

It's a different form of conversation. Different rules to a degree.

... but here we are communicating.


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2420) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Competition - How Many Biccies In My Bowl? (Message 760968)
Posted 31 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I'd also like to give an honourable mention to "Johnney Guinness" who gave us the most crazy but thoughtfull and fun answer down at 'message 757747'.

You made us giggle.

PM on it's way to you too.


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2421) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Competition - How Many Biccies In My Bowl? (Message 760957)
Posted 30 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Winners:

With an answer of 275 "popandbob" from team 'Westjet' (here on SETI)

AND

With an answer of 274 "huntster1701" from team 'TFFE' (on the TFFE boards.)

Winners:
huntster1701 & popandbob


Your doggies will be coming soon.

PM's are on the way...


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2422) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Competition - How Many Biccies In My Bowl? (Message 760930)
Posted 30 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Ohhhh...i cannot wait. Common cRunchy, break the suspense! LOL

LOL.....he forgot the number and has to remember that double-encryption code he put into the answer......

Sorry, crunchy, just could not resist.......

LOL... Mark, he forgot the password and has to hire someone to break the code because the dogs have eaten the biscuits...LOL


You are all so naughty... but I did almost forget the password so not so far from the truth..

I try...
2423) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Competition - How Many Biccies In My Bowl? (Message 760925)
Posted 30 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
How Many Biccies In My Bowl:

Answer:




RAR Passwords:

First password: (.RAR)
3dog2bytes1~comp2008_05a

Second Password: (RAR/EXE - Executable.)
crunchy


The answer is in a *.gif image file... The same as above.



Winners announced soon...
2424) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Competition - How Many Biccies In My Bowl? (Message 760911)
Posted 30 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
It's 1 minute past midnight here in the UK. (24:00 Friday 30/05/08) so the competition has ended.

I'll upload the answer and password to the RAR in a minute or two.

Winners will be announced soon.

There are two winners: One from the TFFE team and one from outside TFFE.

As long as everyone agrees on the winners the prizes will be in the post as soon as possible.
2425) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Competition - How Many Biccies In My Bowl? (Message 760902)
Posted 30 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Just over 10 minutes left..


Any last minute guesses?


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2426) Message boards : Politics : Spirituality Thread (Message 760880)
Posted 30 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


(Seems There Are Ghosts In The Machine...)
.

Speaking of ghosts... one of my fav anime movies is "Ghost In The Shell" - because it has some interesting philosophical background :)


I love the passion we find in anime sometimes.

Have you ever listened to / watched the songs of 'Utada Hikaru'?

* Sakura Drops *




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2427) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mayan Milestone (Message 760765)
Posted 30 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
1,699 days left...

. . . and counting... ;)


Only another 4 years to go.

Please tell me this will be the last of the "end of the world" predictions.

If the Mayans were still around do you think they would not have revised their calander? (No doubt they would have also added some spin as to why the world did not end...)

Oddly the world as the Mayan's understood it actually died well before this prediction.


Me and my friends will be sitting on the hill with a picnic basket and wait.. yet again...

I suspect what people or cultures mean by "the world" relates only to their own vision or explorations. For the rest of us the world is something different.


Mayan society was never going to last forever. It was self destructive.

It's calandar science though was impressive for it's level of technology and skills.

However: Awe of a culture's skills should not promote belief.



4 years.
Another Apocalypse.
A chance to party.
I'll bring the houmous (humus) and bread.
What will you bring?




.
2428) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Competition - How Many Biccies In My Bowl? (Message 760711)
Posted 30 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Surely by now there must be 0! ;)


ShEm et-al,

Well me, and the doggies have been munching away but the number of biccies in the photo remains the same.

Just have a guess for fun.

You never know!!!


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2429) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Competition - How Many Biccies In My Bowl? (Message 760689)
Posted 30 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
It's Friday the 30th here and just under 8 hours to go before the competition ends. (Midnight (24:00) Friday GMT / UK Time - 30/5/08.)

Last chance to add or alter your guess:

How Many Biccies In My Bowl?




You could be the proud owner of this lovely toy.



Good luck folks.



Answer (and pasword for RAR) will be given after midnight - in about 8 hours.. RAR here.


.
2430) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti Singles (Message 759841)
Posted 28 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
This thread has gone a bit mad.


Jeffrey suggested my perfect friend might be "Little Orphan Annie"...
(I'll get you back Jeffrey!).


What about suggesting 'blind dates' for each other?


If you are crazy enough then add your name and find out who other's think your perfect date might be. :o)

(To make it fun suggestions for 'blind dates' should be well known people or character types but not people from SETI / et-al...)



Who do you reckon would be a good 'date' for Jeffrey for an evening out?



(Sorry Jeffrey.. Hehehehe.)
2431) Message boards : Politics : Spirituality Thread (Message 759750)
Posted 28 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Here's a quick avi transcode (Sorry about the bad video.): JUMP

The connection has timed out

The server at ...SNIP... is taking too long to respond.


Cheers for info.

It's on the 'Virgin' Servers...

Some servers go down once in a while. The link should be back up now. (It was out for about 2 hours???)

In general the universal servers only go down for a few minutes per month (if that).. Sadly it went down when you needed it.

Wasn't my fault but sorry for problems.

Here's the link again: JUMP




(Seems There Are Ghosts In The Machine...)
.
2432) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti Singles (Message 759724)
Posted 28 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Well so much for leaving (pics of) little kids out of it. :/


Misfit are you angry with me?

This has been my avatar for a very long time.

It is a picture of me when I was younger.

It's been mine for many years and not just via BOINC.

The image is an avatar.

I don't understand your meaning Misfit.

You win.

I give in.

====

I'd still like to hear what other people might think would be a good 'match' for me though as it would be fun...



.
2433) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti Singles (Message 759713)
Posted 28 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...
Now, can we get back on topic?



OK... A slightly different take on the thread...



Match Making Fun:


What sort of person do you think would suit me :o)
(Please be kind... eeeK)


cRunchy


?


(Don't worry as someone else here will be next :o))
2434) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti Singles (Message 759682)
Posted 28 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Boy o boy, did I open a can of worms or what?


No you didn't.


    Nobody loves me,
    everybody hates me,
    I'm gonne go eat worms.

    Big fat juicy ones,
    little tiny squirmy ones,
    I'm gonna go eat worms.




My post was made because we have heard the "child-friendly" arguement before.

In the past it has caused problems across the forums.

However there has been no evidence that adults talking about issues that affect them have created any problems for youngsters that use these forums.

(... and as far as I know anyone (adult or child) that said something rude or gross already had their posts moderated anyway!!!)

If there are problems then I am sure those who work with the school kids who view these forums are always welcome to speak out?

There are many people on SETI who have children of their own and plenty that work with kids.

There are no people better than the community to say what is good or bad for our children.

It is true though that we all need to speak in a way that is not harmfull but is well meaning...


And anyway what is wrong with worms :o)







2435) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti Singles (Message 759590)
Posted 27 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
A few us do, please don't spoil the thread.

If this is a serious thread then it needs to be removed immediately. Dating services, sexual subjects, adult topics, etc are all considered not kid-friendly. This is SETI@home, not eHarmony. Remember, according to Matt Lebofsky there are lots of schools with lots of young children that read these forums.


I doubt this thread will ever go as far as becoming a dating service.

I suspect the thread will either end up telling us something about the gender and social make-up of the forums or be just something quite innocent and fun.

As long as the thread is good willed most yound people will understand the idea that people of all ages enjoy discovering things about each other.

We are a multi-aged community.

To hide parts of ourselves from the young people in our communities does not always serve them well.

If 'Matt Lebofsky' is right about how many school children read these threads then one way to create balance is to ask the teacher's of these children to create SETI accounts and get the youngsters to forward their ideas and values.

This has been a long term question.

Any child can log into any forum on the internet as long as they click that box that says they are of the 'age of majority' (16/18+ years etc..)..


Kids in the school yard often ask each other if they have a boyfriend or girlfriend... I doubt they are trying to set up a "dating agency"...



Not everything adults do is anti-child or bad.

Adults can also play innocently...




Why stress?
.
2436) Message boards : Politics : Spirituality Thread (Message 759482)
Posted 27 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIPs...

You guys must be teasing me...

Just in case you are not then go to YouTube and find a file with the name: "Battlestar Galactica - Hybrid scene#1".
SNIP.....


No, you aren't being teased. I received the same message as well.
I know of a Canadian that is frequently unable to view youtube posts.


I just tried hiding myself behind a US proxy and got the same 'not for you' message :o(

Bizaar as many similar clips are available on YouTube US. (I wonder whether the fault lies with the uploaders or with certain words in the file descriptions?..)

As Qui-Gon said... "What A Rip"...

Anyway it wasn't such a great YouTube video anyway.

Here's a quick avi transcode (Sorry about the bad video.): JUMP


It was just an odd thought relating to spirituality....
2437) Message boards : Politics : Spirituality Thread (Message 758175)
Posted 25 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Not available in my country either.....who knew that Michigan was actually a country?? lol


You guys must be teasing me...

Just in case you are not then go to YouTube and find a file with the name: "Battlestar Galactica - Hybrid scene#1".

Or try the file name "4rUqpPbxGzc" in the search box.

Failing everything else look up the user "mistermirage"...

Sorry my link went wrong.



EOL.
2438) Message boards : Politics : Spirituality Thread (Message 758170)
Posted 25 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...

That video came up with a message: This video not available in your country.

What a rip!


Qui-Gon,

As far as I can tell you are in the USA?

The clip is from an early issue of Galactica.

I assume Misfit was able to watch the video. Misfit is also in the USA?

If YouTube is blocking you or your location I don't know what to suggest.


If you can not see the video then PM me. I'll send you the .FLV.

As long as you tell me you have seen the early BSG series there is no problem for me to give you a copy of a clip of what you have already seen. (European copyright law is a bit different to the USA's.)

The YouTube link I gave was a UK.YouTube.com URL..

You can always alter the URL by slashing off the "uk." bit at the start of the URL..



Anyway my post wasn't about Galactica.



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2439) Message boards : Politics : Spirituality Thread (Message 758166)
Posted 25 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Jump..

Out of all the babble it's the one thing you don't what the hybrid to say while you're on board. That and "continued in 2 weeks".


To jump is a matter of faith.

Everything will be continued in 2 weeks.

Luckily evolution takes no account of our everyday issues or lives and will happen regardless.







2440) Message boards : Politics : Spirituality Thread (Message 758141)
Posted 25 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...
i think the problem is that the terms spirituality,science, religion etc...is always looked at a separated way but actually all terms defines the evolution of a human being till today ,especially for explaining his nature or the environment he lives in, who knows how humans evolve in the next decade ....



We are all on the path of evolution.




Sometimes though we...


Jump..



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2441) Message boards : Politics : Spirituality Thread (Message 757696)
Posted 24 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Joking and frivolity aside.


Do we all not share with each other the spirit of ourselves when we speak?

What is 'spirituality'?

Is it a sense of value about ourselves and each other that can not be quantified by onlookers, books, history, politics, religion or society?

Can atheists, scientific people, agnostics or religious people be 'spiritual'?






A Tune.


2442) Message boards : Politics : Did the bible say anything about life outside planet Earth? (Message 757676)
Posted 24 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
(As far as I am aware they were no taller or shorter than homosapiens of the same time period... Am I wrong?)

Based on what I learned in school, yes... Do I know for sure, no... ;)


How many inches taller were Neanderthals than Homosapiens?

If I was to talk about giants they would have to be at least 12 inches if not 10 foot taller than me...


Does anyone have an idea how tall the average Neanderthal actually was?

2443) Message boards : Politics : Did the bible say anything about life outside planet Earth? (Message 757670)
Posted 24 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
How does the bible account for Neanderthal people???

Giants... ;)

...(You'll have to settle for a link because I haven't installed bible software on this OS... yet)...



You will have to settle for questions: :o)~

How tall were Neanderthals?

(As far as I am aware they were no taller or shorter than homosapiens of the same time period... Am I wrong?)

Were homosapiens really tiny people when the bible was being recorded?

There have always been plenty of tall peoples ("Giants") in the homosapien ethnic /genome populations across the world. Are we re-writing the bible to excuse it's lack of testability against the physical world.

Was the bible not just talking about a different ethnic group of humans?

What makes a giant?


.
2444) Message boards : Politics : Did the bible say anything about life outside planet Earth? (Message 757651)
Posted 24 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
the Giants that were talked about in Genesis were actually Neanderthals. They even found the bones mixed with human bones in lots of places around Israel.

Neanderthal man bones mixed with human bones found in the same place?

Was Neanderthal man an 'alien being', or is the 'theory of evolution' wrong?

If what you say is true, then one thing is for sure, my bible wasn't wrong... ;)


Some interesting questions might be:

    "Can the Bible cope with the idea or existance of Neanderthals?"

    "Were Adam and Eve Neanderthal lovers?"



The bible says nothing about (other planetary) 'aliens', cars, aeroplanes, coffee or potatoes. (... We are not talking about spirits, devils or angels..)


How does the bible account for Neanderthal men and women?

I mean from scientific / bone / artifact evidence Neanderthals existed amongst / alongside us homosapiens for quite a long time.

They are no more alien than any other expression of life on our planet.

How does the bible account for Neanderthal people???


.

2445) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Competition - How Many Biccies In My Bowl? (Message 757601)
Posted 24 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Because there was a (fair) question as to whether someone could hack the RAR file that holds the answer to the quiz I have doubled the encryption.

Please re-download the .RAR file here.
(I won't be changing the RAR again.)


The number of biccies remains the same...

You just have to guess.





How many biccies are in my bowl?


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2446) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Competition - How Many Biccies In My Bowl? (Message 757450)
Posted 23 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP........
How much ya wanna bet somebody tries to break the password?



Why would anyone here try to cheat another person?

The competition is for fun.

Let's carry on.
2447) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Competition - How Many Biccies In My Bowl? (Message 757404)
Posted 23 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
For fun and to celebrate the tastefull traditions of our friend 'DogBytes' everyone is invited to join in this competition.

We have two prizes: One for TFFE members and one for crunchers outside of our team.


The Quiz:

How Many Biccies in My Bowl?



It's a bit of fun.

Simply post the number of 'doggy biscuits' you think are in the red bowl.
(Clue: There are more than 100 and less than 500.)

The prizes:

There are two of these lovely doggies up for grabs:


Mechanical USB Dogs
(Love Your USB Ports!!!)
(Who said computing should be dignified :o)~ )


Rules:

The competition ends at midnight (GMT -0) on Friday 30th of May 2008.

You can only make one guess per post. (Maximum number of guesses per person is 3. Your last posted guess will be the one entered into the competition.)

There are two prizes: One will be won by a member of TFFE and the other will be won by someone from outside TFFE.

(@Members of TFFE: You can add your entry on whichever site you wish but your entry will be treated as if it was made on the TFFE forum.)

All guesses must be marked / indicated. (EG: "My guess is xxx".....).

The winners will be those who give the nearest or correct guess.

In the event of a tie-break the persons who post first (time and date wise) will win.



Winners:

The correct answer to the competition is held in a passworded RAR file that can be downloaded here.

The correct answer will also be given at the end of the competition along with the password to the RAR file.



===

Have a go.

Naughty But Nice :o)

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2448) Message boards : Politics : Spirituality Thread (Message 755481)
Posted 19 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...
At times, it can be scary for those who don't really understand the concept.



So what is the concept?



(For me it's that there are many things in life that can not be quantified.

EG: Some things, however unknown or odd, may be perfect as they are without trying to slap a label on them....)




.
2449) Message boards : Politics : A Hypothetical Question (Message 755474)
Posted 19 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Such negativity.

I tend to wonder why people keep 'pointing out my negativity' while I am only 'pointing out the obvious'...


What is obvious and what is truth are not always the same thing.

Billions of people do exist today and we have a far better standard of living than ever before. Not a perfect truth but as far as I can tell history agrees.

(Prove me wrong.)


There is a word that comes to mind... ---> 'Denial', and getting rid of people like me won't fix that... ;)


I couldn't imagine ever wanting to get rid of you Jeffrey.



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2450) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Going "off-topic" - closed (Message 755469)
Posted 19 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP ...

"Won't someone please pick apart my post so we can go off topic again? Somebody splice me!" :D :D

... SNIP


No :o)~

... but here's a video meant to be on topic:

Planet Caravan.


.
2451) Message boards : Politics : A Hypothetical Question (Message 755453)
Posted 19 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
As 'Gods children', God should punish himself for the creation such evil, torturous people, in his own image.

And with that said, we discover another flaw in the theory of evolution:

If we can't blame God, who would we blame? Surely not ourselves... ;)


Such negativity.

Hundred of times more people exist on this planet since concepts of God or deities entered our written or oral languages.

Billions of people alive in the world today.

Thousands of millions will live longer than anyone has for the past 10,000 years plus.

It's not a perfect world but how is the world we live in today worse than it was 100, 1000, 10000 or a million years ago?

I know it is the nature of people to moan and groan but is our world truely worse than it was in the 'golden age' some keep refering to?

If people were really that torturous or evil would we have ever been able to create the sort of world we have today?

If the average person is bad that means the people you trust or love like your parents, siblings, neighbours, friends, colleagues are also bad...

Or is it yet again an example of how we think it "others" that are bad?

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2452) Message boards : Politics : Spirituality Thread (Message 755441)
Posted 19 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
How odd...an entire thread went away....and I got no notification about my post in that thread being deleted??

Have I misplaced my post??


KM that was my fault (as the thread author.)

I did post my reason for the deletion request in the thread prior to it's deletion. Obviously those too have been deleted.

I've PM'd you my apologies for the loss of your post.

Sarge's thread is just as good a place.

cRunchy



As I said...no worries, Crunchy. Nothing major. Not the first post of mine that's been lost. Certainly won't be the last...lol



Talking about 'spirituality' is a difficult one. Spirituality is not always about 'religion' and does not always fit easily into scientific philosphies. It becomes something that we can't quote too much about or argue politically or intellectually over.

In a way it is an invitation to be personal beyond our everyday realities.

That will always look like a red rag to a bull.

Perhaps a little scary?

:o)
2453) Message boards : Politics : Spirituality Thread (Message 755433)
Posted 19 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
How odd...an entire thread went away....and I got no notification about my post in that thread being deleted??

Have I misplaced my post??


KM that was my fault (as the thread author.)

I did post my reason for the deletion request in the previous 'spiritual threads' thread prior to it's deletion. Obviously those too have also been deleted.

I've PM'd you my apologies for the loss of your post.

Sarge's thread is just as good a place.

cRunchy
2454) Message boards : Politics : Spirituality Thread (Message 754179)
Posted 16 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
What does it mean to you?
If nothing, why?


Just being alive is spiritual for me.

I know the scientific and religious explanations of how I got here but neither help me understand the true nature of being alive.

The fact that any of us are alive is just amazing.




2455) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : The Final Front Ear (Message 754131)
Posted 16 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Join Us.



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2456) Message boards : Politics : Fun with Rationing!! (Message 753959)
Posted 16 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
If the NHS services in the UK are socialist then by the same measure the British Education system is also.

They are both legislated and funded in similar ways.

Many people would say that the British education system is also "rationed"..

We still have class based schools.

Whilst we attempt to provide an education for "all" we ration our resources to benefit those society thinks will make the grades.. (We give more to kids from middle class backgrounds.. et al..)

Just to get rid of the idea of "rationing" we could also start to privatise our children's basic and general education.


If you privatise something the idea of "rationing" disappears.

(Companies do not have to provide social statistics nor do they have to justify why they do not provide services to those who can not afford to pay for their services.)


At the end of the day if we want to go down the road of giving up our fundamantal social or national services such as health, education, water, power, communications, sewage... etc... and privatising them (selling off national services to the private sector) why not also privatise the government as well.

Strangley the concept of "rationing" only reared it's ugly head after it was used as a nice media term in a newspaper some years ago..

Just the same as a couple of years ago we started to see advertisements on TV for glasses (specs) that were 'oblong'. The adverts suggested that if you bought a pair of 'brand name' 'oblong' specs you would look just like a librarian.. You would feel intelligent... Shortly afterwards everyone was wearing oblong specs and were walking around as if they were somehow more special....


Todays Politics. Todays Fasions. Todays Truthes...

We love argueing left or right wing...

We love belonging to some side....

We ration ourselves..
2457) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 753916)
Posted 16 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
(for better or for worse.)

A comic quite possibly seen previously in the Daily Funnies thread.
It will probably fail.

Failure is as failure does.


OK.
2458) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 753905)
Posted 16 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP....


Misfit... so many newspaper's quoted yet so little said.

People love quoting stuff.

So few people willing to just be... (for better or for worse.)


I think I will go and start a "Spiritual" thread based upon no one quoting anything...

It will probably fail.

Worth a try!
2459) Message boards : Politics : Fun with Rationing!! (Message 752323)
Posted 13 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
It's an odd misconception that the British government runs the NHS.

The British government supports the legislation to uphold our NHS. It directs and creates policy to uphold the legislation. It has a legal duty to find funds to ensure the services required by legislation are found.

But the government itself does not run the NHS.

The running of the NHS is compartmentalised just as in any corporate or private bussiness.


I've never understood the idea that just because we have a "national" legislated service it should be called a 'socialist' activity.

(I mean if we are thinking the NHS should be privatised then why not also privatise the Army, Airforce, Police, Inland Revenue.. blah blah.. They too are national, governmental services that could be also called 'socialist' endevours. :o))


It's hard to make an arguement about "rationing" relative to the British health system as there are few countries that we can compare the British Health System to.


Britain has always dumped on it's citizens. We have high tax. Long working hours. One of the highest rates of poor mental health (EG Clinical Depression) in the world.


On the other hand we are one of the strongest ecconomies in the world, existing on a small island that is densly populated and was near bankrupt at the end of WW2 (only 50 years ago.)


The NHS was born out of a scheme to ensure that it's workers were fit to work and as a reaction to the devastation WW2 brought to our land.


The 'Guardian' as a newspaper speaks to the left of centre middle / accademic classes. The same issue in other papers will have different slants on them.


Has anybody thought however that as a nation Britain may be populated by very accident prone people who have high levels of madness and often get damaged.

Maybe there is no 'rationing'.. Maybe we just either expect too much of our primary health care or we Britons have just overstretched the NHS beyond any service's capacity to cope.


On a different note: Even if the NHS is a socialist concept it seems strange that any capitalist should complain given the NHS is an integral part of a nation that is on the whole very wealthy.


In a strange way it makes perfect capitalist sense not to get ambulances out quickly to people who have heart problems... A worker with a heart problem would soon become a complete financial loss so why not just let them die?.


You did suggest we could have 'fun' with 'Rationing' didn't you? :o))~




PS:

Just out of interest does anyone know the actual production costs of an antibiotic (EG: such as 'Taravid' - Created by HMR <A private world conglomorate capitalist company>) relative to how much the NHS or patients pay?




PPS:

@ Rush.. On another thread someone mentioned 'LSE'!.. Are you studying or teaching at the "London School Of Ecconomics?"
2460) Message boards : Politics : SETI Belongs To You? (Message 751870)
Posted 12 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I totally agree with you, I get annoyed as well when I see various demands from participants who think that they are owed something from the project and the admins. We have all taken the decision to participate ourselves, nobody put a gun to our heads, if we don't like it anymore, we are free to go elsewhere or just turn off our computers.


Absolutely the whole point. We are all participants and there would be no project if a) Berkeley had not set it up in the first place and b) we little crunchers had not bought into it. The project is thus the property of the whole lot and not just one individual of group, be they so high or so mighty or way down the ranks like me.

It's mine, mine, I tell you, all mine! Hahahahaha!!!!

(Sorry, my mind just flipped somewhere then.)


I never tried to promote the idea that I (or any cruncher) 'owned' SETI as if we owned the majority of shares in some company or in the same way we 'own' our cars, the houses we bought or the shirts on our backs.

You can 'own' something without trying to be in control of it. You could just believe strongly that you own the right to be one voice amongst the many and that overall you have a 'right' to join in as a valued aspect.

By 'belonging' I mean a reciprocity. A symbiosis in which we were all inseparable.

SNIP... Fuzzy....
I totally agree with you, I get annoyed as well when I see various demands from participants who think that they are owed something from the project and the admins. We have all taken the decision to participate ourselves, nobody put a gun to our heads, if we don't like it anymore, we are free to go elsewhere or just turn off our computers.


True.

Nobody put a gun to the heads of the people I annoy... They can also "turn off" their "computers"... though I hope (partly for my sake) they don't.

That there are demands on moderators or Admins from crunchers / community members is natural.

Berkeley already knows the solution to the problem that you are talking about.

Berkeley could easily stop supporting all community forums.

I assume it doesn't because it understands that community is valuable.



I never meant 'ownership' or 'belonging' to mean something ecconomic, political, aggressive or to be feared.


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2461) Message boards : Politics : A Hypothetical Question (Message 751854)
Posted 12 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
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I would prefer to stay alive as long as possible at least. Not die to "make a statement".

Maybe I wasn't clear enough:

Suicide is when you take your own life...
Martyrdom is when other people take your life...

Of course, there are 'suicide martyrs' too... Which are nothing more than 'overzealous patriots'... ;)


During WW2 agents were often given suicide capsules (cyanide etc..) in case they were caught.

Some of those agents went out to destroy the Nazi factories producing materials that could have been used to make nuclear weapons.

I assume they were given the suicide drugs not only to ensure that they had a faster (easier?) option of death than torture but also so that they would not be tortured into giving up information.

Those who did kill themselves were essentially 'suicide martyrs'...

Obviously in todays political climate we tend to associate "suicide martyrs" with suicide bombers...


Suicide is taking the easy way out...


Sometimes suicide can make inevitable death easier but most suicides are committed outside of your or my value system.

I couldn't even start to imagine what people are going through when they decide to kill themselves except to say that I would not want to kill myself.

... but then I am not at the end of my tether in this life.

msattler is right that it is a sensitive issue. Death of anyone we care for is a painful thing but social, religious, political and personal values often make dealing with suicide a far more difficult thing.

It's made even more difficult because those people around the person who committed suicide are often left wondering if they could have done more.


Not everyone is capable of withstanding 'everything' life throws at them.

We should just be glad that our lives have not been so difficult.

We are not gods.

We are just precious.

... but so are those few who commit suicide.




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2462) Message boards : Politics : Burma (Message 750534)
Posted 9 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
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And your point is? Are you siding with that view of brown people in

OOGA-BOOGA LAND OR WHEREVER


I hope not. I doubt your mates at the LSE would be impressed.....


The ones that got the point of the story, i.e., that it's humor, would laugh like hell.


Would the "brown" ones laugh like hell too?


But I really couldn't care less what some ill-defined collective seems to think.


Are you part of the 'well-defined collective?' (or maybe the non existant 'non-collectives'.. An 'anarchist' maybe? An 'individualist' possibly?)


You should see the smarmy, self-righteous, do-gooders at this school. Most of them flail away impotently for their self-acknowledged "very important crisis," accomplish little or nothing, and then congratulate themselves on how much they've shown that they care and preached to the choir of their very own.


What about those who do nothing to enhance the world but just make fun of those who 'flail away impotently'... Are not the people who make fun of the impotent ones not also impotent?


Students can be really naive.


I always assumed the essence of being a student was to be 'naive'... Why else would they be studying... If they were not naive they would either be teachers or would not need any education!

We were all naive once.

Even after the best forms of education our societies, communities, families or environments can offer all of us will still be naive about much in our world or beyond.

Being naive is not a crime.

Laughing is a great thing.

Laughing at our selves and our own naivety is about the best thing ever.... It's when we start to grow with joy.

Laughing at people because they are 'brown' though just seems odd.

The "Onion - Press" article seems to be more about ridiculing 'brown people' than laughing with them.

The very term "Ooga Booga" comes from a time when we used to call black people 'niggers', 'wogs' and 'nig-nogs'... It's an imperialist term meant to make fun of or deride others so that it feels easier to enslave, mistreat or ignore them as humans..


I'll laugh 'with' brown people anytime as long as we can find something in common to laugh about.




What happened to Burma recently is devastating and is of no laughing matter.

What happened to America when the tornadoes hit a while ago was terrible.

Parts of America are still recovering.

Burma however is far poorer and it's people face a much greater challenge.

Lives lost in both parts of the world are irreplaceable...

Burma and it's people of all colours and shades need help.

Very few of us have the power to make a difference when such catastrophies happen.


Chris S' however acted and chose to promote the issue.

For me he did a worth while thing.


Every step is worth taking.



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2463) Message boards : Politics : SETI Belongs To You? (Message 750419)
Posted 9 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
As a cruncher / member of SETI (even if only occasionally involved in the forums) do you think SETI belongs to you?

Very simply, no.

We are merely a part of the experiment called "Boinc". We are also a part of the experiment to see if s@h can continue to exist on minimal or zero funding.

SNIP...


That's almost exactly what everyone else has said that has responded to this thread.

Strangely everyone that said that SETI does 'not belong to us also had an enourmous RAC?

It is a matter of perspective and maybe a matter of what we are willing to accept (it may also be a matter of whether we like this or that word.)


Martin: You talk about SETI as if it was just something less than a tertiary activity. (You said: "We are merely a part of the experiment called "Boinc"."...)

Martin: Your RAC is 16 times mine.

There are people who also say there is no 'belonging' who's RACS are multiples of yours.

Such high investments yet such low expectations suggest non of you are being completely honest.

Unless of course you are so wealthy computer, replacement or electricity wise that (or that those with high RACs don't use their own PCs or pay for the electricity: Ergo they have simply use their bussineses or co-opt their work place machines) it doesn't affect them or matter too much.

Can any of you tell me why you should invest so many of your computers given the effort on your part and the cost to you or your companies but still say you have no concept of affiliation, belonging or ownership.


My PC runs BOINC 24/7 and it's my main PC. It is important to me.

I wouldn't run my only PC so hard unless the task involved was important to me.

To think that all I am doing is being a part of Boinc 'experimentation' is just crazy.

However as people so far have suggested it may well be so...



PS:

Is there a correlation between those who have higher or lower RACs and their ideas and values about SETI?

Is there a correlation between RACs and those who post to different parts of these forums (EG: Politics v Cafe?)?

Is there a correlation between posts that start off in the Cafe and get dumped in the Politics forum and a reduction in expected / potential broad responses?



I would be interesting to hear from people with low average RACs (just 1 PC) to see whether they think SETI belongs to them?


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2464) Message boards : Politics : SETI Belongs To You? (Message 750364)
Posted 9 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP..........

We are but just humble crunchers.....those of us who are more interested in the project than in the semantics of those administering it will continue to crunch on and make polite requests to the powers that be.


Is that a 'value' statement? I am interested in the project as a cruncher (my RAC, user name and avatar never changed even when I was away from the forums or was on the ban list..) but I am also interested in the administration of the project.

Neither need be separate issues although some prefer a difference.



Some will be taken up, some will be ignored.

The question is..........do you feel lucky....well, do ya punk?
Oops.....free associating.......

I really feel that those who wish to stay here because of their interest in the project or their convictions about the project's goals will always stay.....because their hope that the end goal will someday be reached will outweigh the negatives in the day to day progression of the project......


The thread is about what individuals feel. Whether they feel a sense of belonging or 'ownership' of SETI. The thread is not about who wants to stay or go.


SNIP.............

Sorry folks, but as far as the project itself is concerned, I am the ultimate 'yes man' and will remain so......
And that does not mean I have not, and will not, voice my opinions on occasion when they run contrary to some people's thoughts......

'Polite expression' of opinions is what the forums are about......
I have transgressed this rule on a few occasions, and have apologized profusely for it.....


I can't say I have always been 'polite.' I know I am 'direct' and verbose at times.

... but I doubt even you could say that you do not have a sense of 'belonging'... and with a sense of 'belonging' does not a sense of 'ownership' follow? (Ergo: 'Ownership' meaning we are at least in part (however small) in control or of influence..)

Without a sense of belonging at least we would not feel so free to communicate in public.


It would be nice to hear from crunchers who had only just joined in SETI or these forums or who have not posted to the forums for a while.



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2465) Message boards : Politics : SETI Belongs To You? (Message 750335)
Posted 9 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


(Am I going to be banned again?)

Oh Pants :(



I should be saying "oh pants" and apologising because I made a bad call earlier and shoved this in the SETI@home science forum and it really doesn't belong here. It's more of a political type question, so I'll shift this over to the Political forum - where I am sure it will attract more discussion.

Apologies all - still finding my feet :)



You have moved my thread from the 'Cafe' to 'SETI@Home' and now to 'Politics' forum...

The "Politics" forum is not where I started or wanted this thread but it's better here than no-where. (I still want it in the cafe but I understand I have zero choice over the place and context of my words.)


It's OK I guess.


Let's get back to the thread:

"SETI Belongs To You?" - Belongs to us?


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2466) Message boards : Politics : SETI Belongs To You? (Message 750305)
Posted 9 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I'm going to move this over to the SETI@Home forum as it is a topic specifically about SETI.


I knew it would be moved...

I so much wanted to discuss the issue with my fellow crunchers...

It was about what members of SETI thought and nothing to do with SETI as you see it. It's about what 'members' think about their own involvement and value.... (We could be talking about any project... I am talking about peoples value upon their volunteering.... SETI yes because we are here..)

Believe it or not I do not start threads to cause problems.

It was not a thread about mods, admins or SETI per-ce.

It could have been quite an interesting thread.

Now it has been relegated to nowhere.

Normally I would ask for a thread that was moved without my agreement (as the thread starter / owner) to be removed because it had been re-interpreted beyond the meaning I gave to the thread initially..) however please keep the thread here as a symbol of how members (mine.. I assume I am a member?) words are just either shoved asside to another thread or ... deleted (as I think I might be soon...)

(Am I going to be banned again?)

Oh Pants :(


You are right in your earlier thread though... We do not belong.. We do not own.. We are just invitees who are expendable, movable and deletable!

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You have taken away my words... How else should I react?

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2467) Message boards : Politics : SETI Belongs To You? (Message 750303)
Posted 9 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
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I don't consider I "own" anything here. I am a guest of the project Admin. I have been invited to partake in a scientifically important project. I accepted that invitation. Nothing was promised or is owed to me. It is what it is, an invitation to partake.


OK. In Urdu / Hindi (the official / broad language of India, Pakistan, reaching out to over a billion odd people et al) I would say "Paas" to mean "I own" or "something belongs to me".. ('Ye Mera Paas Hai' = roughly = 'That is mine'.)

However in reality the word "paas" means "something is near to me"..

I did not quite mean ownership in the sense of 'absolute control'..

I meant it in the communal sense of 'belonging'... (EG: I own and am 'owned' by my local community. I belong to it and it belongs to me. We are integral....)


It's an interesting definition where we are just "invitees" though.


2468) Message boards : Politics : SETI Belongs To You? (Message 750283)
Posted 9 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

As a cruncher / member of SETI (even if only occasionally involved in the forums) do you think SETI belongs to you?

I am not talking about who owns the infrastructure or about legality or who has more power.

I'm asking whether you think SETI belongs to you because you are an integral part of SETI?

Do you think that you and your fellow members are the most valuable parts of the project?

What about the forums? We know there will always be problems when we chat in public but do you think we are capable of controlling our own environment? (Are the SETI forums 'our' environment to start with?)


I know Berkeley owns SETI in terms of legality but do we (you and I) not own the life and efforts of this project?


How would you describe your affiliation, belonging, membership, crunching or ownership of the SETI project?

Do you just crunch or do you have a sense of belonging or ownership?



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===

(Please do not complain about the mods'/admins as this is not what this thread is about.)


(Mods': This is not a political post. It's about membership and community. Please don't move it to the "Politics" section of the forum. Just delete it if you do not like it.)



2469) Message boards : Politics : A Hypothetical Question (Message 748504)
Posted 5 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
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. . . for all the '(self-)righteous' BIG BROTHERS out there...

If you cut a man off from society, lock him in a room, and proceed to torture him day and night... Even if you 'believe' that you are 'doing the right thing'... When he finally gives up and commits some sort of personal suicide, who exactly do you think God will punish? Who do you think is guilty of the greater crime(s)?

This ought to be interesting... ;)

(Inspired by Matthew 7:1-5)


There at least two historically documented examples similar to what you have suggested (though without the torture) where people have taken children, locked them away and removed all verbal stimuli.

They did this to find out what language the children would speak first.

They had the belief that their language (English, French, Spanish whatever) was the language of God and any child devoid of external infleunce would obviously speak in Gods language first...

As far as I can remember all the children in these hideous experiments never spoke a word, they became mentally disturbed and died at an early age.

The children simply gave up living.


I have no idea who god will punish.


I know who I would incarcerate though... and it would not be the children.


I am unsure why we would need to try to balance one action against another.

Sometimes one is wrong and the other is right and sometimes both are wrong or both are right. Sometime both are not really connected.

The bible (Quran and other religious books) say it is wrong or evil to commit suicide.

The same books say it is wrong to harm others.

What God judges will always be hypothetical except to those who think they know the truth...


Perhaps a more interesting set of questions (because 1 in 4 of us will know someone in this situation at least once in our lives) are:

  • What about people who suffer great pain and are on a fast track to death?

  • What if they were in the last stages of an illness like cancer and were suffering?

  • What if they would live for another year in agony or could ask for a high dose of morphine that would let them slip away in the next few days without too much pain?




I've never seen a suicide where a person did not see it as their only option.


I hate the idea of suicide but then I am not at that point.

Do I need an e'dict from God to stop me from committing suicide.. No.

If God only allows us to suffer what we are capable of coping with then no one should have ever committed suicide.

If God knows us well then why would he allow us to suffer to the point of self termination?


Maybe suicide only happens when God stops caring for us...

.. OR maybe it happens when we can not cope with ourselves or our life any more.


No shame in making choices that effect ourselves..

Convict the criminal.

Support the victim.



God can punish us for disagreeing with him....
He can punish us when we are dead...
How frightening is that? ;o)~



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2470) Message boards : Politics : Volunteering As A Mod? (Message 748427)
Posted 5 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

How does one volunteer to become a mod on the SETI forums?

The new moderation regime based on renewing mods every few months will require a large pool of volunteers (unless the same mods are re-employed again and again....)

How do people volunteer should they wish to serve their fellow members?

What skills or qualities do they need?

Is public volunteering possible?


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2471) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Better check the guard..... (Message 748419)
Posted 5 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Thanks all. They'll let just about anyone in here!



You are not just anyone.


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2472) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Better check the guard..... (Message 748410)
Posted 5 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Dune,

Lovely to see your pearly whites :o)

2473) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 748296)
Posted 5 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
(@ Misfit: It would be interesting to see a direct link/URL to that article.).

Just how interesting?


For me the interesting part of that story is that we are not told if the source of those statistics are 'comparible'. For example the story uses French Muslim leaders / sociologists statistics and compares them against statistics from other countries from un-names sources.

If the reporter really wanted to create a story that had validity they would only have to use the prison records themselves as it is law in Europe (especially for gov services) to keep ethnic, religious stats.

It may well be that the French government are using their prisons as "immigration control / holding' facilities.

In the UK we have a different system and may collect our stats in a different way.

The over all concept of the story though has something that doesn't add up.

Either France has an enourmous capacity (3 times it's national needs for non-muslim / french criminals) or it has started to arrest less non-muslim criminals.

I find the story 'interesting' simply because it leaves a lot un-researched. If the story was originally reported in France and then just copied over by an American newspaper with no care for verification that too has a significance.

Sometime 'acceptable truth' only needs to fit our learnt or desired perceptions.
2474) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 746826)
Posted 2 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
In France, up to 70 percent incarcerated are Muslims
Discrepancy is similar in other prisons in Europe

By Molly Moore
THE WASHINGTON POST

May 1, 2008
............ SNIP ....


I am amazed.

It's always been pretty obvious that if you were black or working class that you were far more likely to be arrested (and convicted) but I hadn't realised that being Muslim was so much more illegal.

I can't imagine that Muslims as a general population are any more criminal than any other religious or secular community.

Does anyone believe that for every 30 non-muslim criminals there are 70 muslim criminals in French prisons?

(@ Misfit: It would be interesting to see a direct link/URL to that article.)

Personally I would be amazed if 70% of the criminal population in French prisons were Muslim.

I would have expected a higher number statistically given the way we treat 'foreigners' (due to colour... blah blah..) in Europe.. but 70%???? Mmmmmmm


Is the article by Molly Moore of the THE WASHINGTON POST an attempt to show how the US treats Muslims well by saying how bad Europe treats them?

American's must be quite happy that they live so far away from the main 'criminal' Muslim societies.. (I am being facetious.)


Once it was Christians.

Then the Jews.

It was always the Pagans and Non-Religious. (But who cares about them.)

Now it is the Muslims.


I still can't believe 70% of criminal convictions in France are given to Muslims.

Anyone have any stats that prove this scenario?


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2475) Message boards : Politics : Did the bible say anything about life outside planet Earth? (Message 746736)
Posted 2 May 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
We have the ability. Why do we need to look to the Bible for permission to be all we can be.

'Be all you can be' used to be a recruitment slogan of the armed forces...

I later learned that it was better stated as: 'Be all you can be, as long as you're not greater than me'...

Nowadays, I have a new interpretation of that phrase: 'You can only be what we want you to be'...

What a waste of ability... ;)


Jeffrey,

I never meant to say what you have re-interpreted my words to say.

I can not image the bible OR Jesus ever felt we should not try to be all that we could be.

(To do less for me would be rather dishonest.)

There is no 'waste of ability' in trying to be everything we can be. Is there?


I understand there are thousands of advertisements by the military or companies that use euphamisms and heart felt meanings to sell their objectives...

. ... but I wasn't selling anything.



Even if God created me do you think I should limit myself to a writtings on paper in a book called the 'bible'?

Perhaps I am crazy but I think God or Nature gave me so much more.



SETI is not mentioned in the Bible.

If people are going to be honest about this issue maybe they should say whether they feel SETI is a 'good' or 'bad' thing and whether it's crunchers are doing 'right' or 'wrong' by the Bible or God???

I suspect those who so promote their religious values here will not give a direct answer to this question!


Is to search for life outside of this planet an afront to God?



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2476) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Androids - educated guesses: how far off is the technology? (Message 744367)
Posted 26 Apr 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
"Synthetic" humans like Bishop and Ash from the Alien films / or Data from Star Trek Next Generation - remarkable concepts, that are sure to (one day) see the light of day. I'm hoping to see some major AI advances in my life time - I would gladly befriend an android!

now, the question is: how long's the wait?


How long to wait?

Probably another 200 years for a brain that is as complex as an ants and another 300 years more until we can create a rough assemblance of an animal that does not require piles of wires sticking out of it's back.

If we want a life size doll that can not fall over we can have it today.

We can even have a human looking machine that (slowwlllyyyy) avoids objects in a room...

Linguistically responsive applications have been around since DOS (EG: Alice.)

Neural nets that dream have been around for 20+ years. (The first I saw was 100 neurons <analog transistor based> in the 1980s.

Neural nets today?... Potentially... but are less likely... as the modern value is to digitise everything (in otherwords using 1000 transistors to emulate one single old analog transistor.. EG: using OOPICs..) which requires far more levels of application.


What do people mean by "AI"?

* A computer that can speak back to them in natural language and can store information and prioritise it relative to new discourse?

* A box that chat's back to us and makes us believe it is a two way process?

* A consructed mind that eventually makes up it's own and becomes more than the sum of it's parts?


What do people actually mean by an "Android"?

* A human looking slave / robot? (With complexity up to the point we like?)

* A being created by humans that becomes independant?

* A simulation of something we are comfortable with?



I have a toy Pino robot.

It's quite pretty. It sings and dances and is rather annoying after a while.

I also have a 'Robosapien 1' but my Robosapien has a broken right hand so he can't throw his toy bucket.

He get's really grumpy :o(


They are both under 14-ish inches tall and look like humans (sort of) and can do a few human things (walk, wobble, make noises.. blah blah..) but they are both annoying after a while.

Neither do what I want them to do.

Neither are simple robots in the "slave" sense ("simple tell and do") as they are interactive.

They are pretend symbiotic. Their tiny tiny tiny brains can only cope with only reacting / remembering a few stimuli. (Less than a single cell organism I imagine.)

(They are robots with someone elses agenda programmed in. They seem ever so slightly inteligent as I have not yet worked out the complexity of their programmed tree / map.)

They are a little fuzzy but only in their primative (less than a tomatoe) type response to the external world. (Noise left.. Noise right... Oops I bumped my foot...)

But they can not create new modes of behaiviour or learn beyond their basic programming.


I'd be interested in any new developments that have occurred in AI.


Beyond complex controlled mechanical systems I am unsure whether we have scratched the surface of simulating a humonoid or even animal physique.

(Even simple plants can negotiate a set of stairs.)


Current battery technology (broadly available) is too poor and inefficient to power any humanoid style machine for any thing more than a couple of hours. (Relative to bulk, weight etc..)

Electric motors are very efficient but are only as efficient as the framework that holds them and non of this can self repair.

Organic tissues are probably the most efficient translators and users of consumed energy but it is currently questioned whether we can ethically grow / clone complex tissue of animals / humans for experimentation.


I think we are a thousand miles off ever creating a worthy AI or an android.

The only examples close to this that I have seen have either been AI or robotic simulations in the media (for movies etc) or in the labs of wealthy companies as projects run by their techs and generally were used as publicity stunts to promote the company.

Most android type 'things' (humanoid or otherwise) continue to be toys.

Most AI tends to either focus upon accademic and specific issues or go down the line of fuzzy logic or use "natural language" simulations with some open (free form) databasing attached.



I am sure I will see thousands of new and exciting developments in the rest of my life-time. I doubt I will ever see a true AI or Android.


Sorry.. eek..

Have I painted a dismal picture for the 'love bot' generation? :o))~



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A quiz for those who like electronics:

Which was developed first?

*Transistors
. or
*Valves (Tubes..)

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2477) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Study: Alien life might be non-existent (Message 744287)
Posted 26 Apr 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... SNIP...

The finding, reported in the journal Astrobiology, suggests the chance of intelligent life emerging is less than 0.01 percent over 4 billion years.



He forgot the "What If?" factor :o)

Is my maths correct? Is he saying that the chances of "intelligent" life existing on planet with "earth" like qualities is 100% every 400 billion years?


I assume he means by "intelligent" the ability to make noise outside of their atmosphere that we at SETI could possibily pick up??? or maybe he just means the ability to use tools or art?


I don't think his maths are wrong.

It might be true that a thousand civilisations or intelligent species have existed and done just as we are now (searched the skys) but they like us missed the blip in the sky.

After all we are technologically just a "Blip in the Sky" and have only been making noise outside of our planet for the past 120+ years and have only had the capacity to listen well for the past 50 or so years.


Statistically I even doubt "alien" life of the "intelligent" kind exists within our time frame (NOW.. Earth-time.)

I'd be pretty amazed if there was an "earth like" planet that has a spectrum of basic 'life' up on it that we can verify.


I am quite glad though that our sun will not die for another billion years. (I can put my washing out now :o)



I don't have a problem with the idea that we actually may be the most intelligent (or even the only living) creatures in the whole universe but.....?


But What if?



2478) Message boards : Politics : Did the bible say anything about life outside planet Earth? (Message 742631)
Posted 22 Apr 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
he has now shaken my universe.

I have a knack of shaking everyone's universe... ;)


(Everyone's???)


Islam did shake the foundations of Medieval Christianity.

Islam gave us perspective, logic, a look at the world that did not include Jesus simply because Islam had preserved pre-Christian texts going back to Aristotle.


Moses (or Musa) was most likely trained as an (ancient) Egyptian cleric but he never brought forwards the discoveries of ancient Egyptian intellectuals.


If you want to see who first measured the world and suggested it was a 'globe' ('round' and not-flat) look back past the Bible and look at the ancient Egyptians. Their measurements were so amazingly precise given their tools.


I think Jeffrey is right to bring up Islam as the Bible (and more importantly the way we read it today) has been enormously affected by Islam.


If you believe the Bible you read today is the same as the bible you would have read if you lived 600+ years ago you are probably mistaken.

If you believe the Bible today is what was written by the apostles then you have lost the nature of how the Bible has developed.


In my whole life my father never mentioned there was an island just off the coast of 'Nha Trang'...

... I only just found out about this island because I was googling...

... Without google I might have never have known.




My question relative to the thread subject ("Did the bible say anything about life outside planet Earth?") is: Who cares?


Did the Bible say anything about 'cars', 'planes', 'malaria', 'TFT Screens', 'Pineapples', 'Toilet Paper', 'Telephones', blah blah blah.....

Did the Bible (or the Quran.. or any other religious book) say anything about most of the discoveries in our world....

The Bible says next to nothing regarding physical life outside of our world.


But then my Father never told me about the island outside of 'Nha Trang'...


I don't think the Bible was written in a language that was meant to speak to those from some 1800+ years ago as if they were children in hindsight.

It was simply written in the language and understanding of that time. (I doubt the authors even tried to imagine what our world would be like in 2008.)


Who cares whether God or Nature gave us the ability to search our universe.

We have the ability. Why do we need to look to the Bible for permission to be all we can be.


For me the wildest discovery might be that we are the only sentient beings in the whole universe.

... How crazy would that be?



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2479) Message boards : Politics : Trying juveniles as adults (Message 740360)
Posted 17 Apr 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...SNIP....
Are you saying that we, as a society, cannot ( or should not ) show the kids that doing such things as what happened to Blurf, will have consequences other than some counseling??

That is patently absurd. One of the main problems with the children in this country ( in my opinion only ) is that, ever since people have started to link some form of abuse ( mental, physical, whatever ) to some of the things these kids have been doing, there has been a serious problem of parents being able ( or willing ) to discipline their children.

Send them to " Time Out "....what a joke....

SNIP...


I don't think we should use what happened to Blurf as a beacon around which we coalesce our anxieties about young people in our society.

What Blurf faced should not have happened.

Every bad act should be met with a clear message that we will not tollerate destructive behaiviour and that we are prepared to remove freedom from those who harm or take from others.

Would I treat a child who commits a crime in the same way I would treat an adult who committed the same crime... I wouldn't.

Would I treat a person with mental health problems that committed a crime the same as a person with all their mental faculties.. No.


Should we try juveniles as adults??? In my mind never.

That does not mean that a juvenile should not suffer the consequences of their actions or feel the full force of society but for me we have a different responsibility towards them and need to treat young people in a slightly different way.


I too often see people blaming children or their parents but as far as I am concerned children belong to society (all of us) not just their parents.

I believe we have a duty to young people.


Sometimes we have to force correction upon them.... but we can not treat young people the same way we treat adults... if we do we risk damaging them forever given children's brains, hormones and bodies are different.

No excuses. Young people are different... It's a life fact.


If they harm others they should be dealt with in a direct manner but in a way that has the greatest chance of reforming them or altering their behaiviour relative to their abilities.


I have no problem with retaining young people but lets not allow our care or support for Blurf to over-ride our judgement of what would be best for our society.

.


This issue is for Blurf to deal with.

Accademic arguement is something for another day maybe!


@Blurf


One of the suspects said in the interrogation that "a cripple is an easy mark. How could I turn down the chance?"


That is such a vile and unacceptable attitude.

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Blurf - Know that to us you are valued.



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2480) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 740220)
Posted 17 Apr 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Hehehheheheeeee...

Are they not special too?
2481) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 740189)
Posted 17 Apr 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP.............
Personally I can celebrate the gift I have been given sitting in the bath, walking down the road, eating food, sleeping, coughing madly with a virus or in places where others do not like to congregate :o)

I know churches act as icons for us mortals but are they really that important to god?


SNIP....

Perhaps your level of spirituality is so developed that you need no further assistance to grow in that respect, but I do.


My level of spirituality is not 'so developed'...

We join in SETI because we either have 'faith' that aliens exist or because we have a 'desire to discover' what may exist beyond.

Maybe it is interest in something better that makes people special?

My interest happens to lay in whether God will deny me the right to exist for not bowing or praying to him.

Does following a religious path and following it's values or activities make someone good?

Is being spiritual the first step to being more intelligent or honest?

How much can the bible (Tora, Quran, Gita.. etc..) teach us in comparison to the absolute complexity of our lives and each other?

. A shadow of life maybe?



Just thoughts.
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2482) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SAY A PRAYER FOR BLURF (Message 739122)
Posted 14 Apr 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Blurf,

I hope you have a quick recovery and come back amongst us soon.

Look after yourself.

cRunchy
2483) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Chernobyl (Message 733831)
Posted 3 Apr 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

22 years ago this month (26th April 1986) Chernobyl pumped out vast amounts of radiation that still affects many people today.

In Belarus the children may not live a long life. Even if they do they have a high risk of cancer and illnesses like early on-set osteoporosis.


In my country (UK) some sheep farmers in the Welsh hills are still legally obliged to test their sheep for radiation. (Chernobyl's radiation is still even now residual in the soil.)

Our governments have never told us the true breadth or level of contamination that covered our countries or cities.

But at least in my country most of the contamination was dispersed.

The 'World Health Organisation' (W.H.O.) believed 2/3rds of a million people close to Chernobyl were at life threatening risk from the contamination.

After 22 years a new generation of people are with us.


The charities that offer Belarus children holidays abroad reckon that 4 weeks outside of the irradiated area can add 2 years to the life of each child.


This April remember those people in and around the Chernobyl area.



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2484) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 733819)
Posted 3 Apr 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
There's nothing sadder than watching a congregation of 'christian' wannabes, who have never even put forth the effort to read their bibles, sit in a church and listen to some preacher teach them to put their trust in God rather than in man...

B B But wait mr preacher, aren't you just a man? And Isn't church supposed to be about worshipping God? You do remember who God is, don't you? ;)

(Hint: The supreme being who created everything, including you and Jesus.)


I have no way of judging who is a 'wannabe' or a 'serious' person....

... though I always felt 'churches' (temples) were more about "congregation" rather than personal connection to 'god' or 'worship'.

If I look at my local area there are many different denominations and several different religions. All proclaim to be "worshiping" god but almost non of the members ever go to any of the other 'temples' even when a place of worship is next door to their home.

People congregate in churches for affirmation of their own values (chosen or learnt) in front of each other.

There is a degree of value to this even if it is only lip-service but there is also a downside.

Personally I can celebrate the gift I have been given sitting in the bath, walking down the road, eating food, sleeping, coughing madly with a virus or in places where others do not like to congregate :o)

I know churches act as icons for us mortals but are they really that important to god?



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2485) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 731265)
Posted 28 Mar 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The future of Religion in America.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk3LXvVlsI4



Can I ask a question that is not exactly related to religion regarding the above YouTube (US TV) clip?

Throughout that clip the commentators / journalists kept pronouncing the name "OBAMA" in a way I would not have read it in my English (I'm from the UK.)

Every time they said 'OBAMA's' name it sounded as if they were saying "O'Bomber" ("O-bom-er") (ergo: Bomber..)...

I read 'OBAMA' as 'Ow-b-ah-m-a' (Ow-bar-mah)..

How would Americans correctly pronounce this persons name? (Without using media, political or religious bias?)


Just out of interest!

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2486) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Psst! I'm Back... :o) (Message 731212)
Posted 28 Mar 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

There is nothing more special than returning from a secret mission and seeing the folks that you like to know best.

Thank you for the welcome back.





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2487) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Psst! I'm Back... :o) (Message 730102)
Posted 25 Mar 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
ShhH! Don't Tell Anyone But I'm Back :o)

I got sent away for a couple of weeks on a secret mission.

I would love to tell you about it but if I did it wouldn't be a secret would it? :o)


If you want to guess what secret mission I was sent on you can try..?? :o))


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2488) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your favorite InterNET BROWSER ? (Message 723188)
Posted 7 Mar 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I guess I'm one of the 'odd-bods' here.

I've always used Opera..

.Works from Win3.1 to Vista, Linux, Mac and as a cut down on my mobile phone and my Palm devices. (Versions are both native and platform independant(-ish.. ie: Java.))



I wonder if there is a psychological profile that relates browsers, operating systems, favourite applications and the machines we use to the kind of personality we have?


Just for fun what sort of personality would you attribute to the major Web Browser users?

Internet Explorer =?
FireFox =?
Opera =?
etc?....



@Scarecrow,

What does "Grabber" mean?


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2489) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 720678)
Posted 2 Mar 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

I'm just going to bump in here and ask:
    Who needs a religion when we have the most profound of teachers called life?


Is following and believing in our religious (or atheistic, philosophical, non-religious or other kinds of) texts more important than doing the right thing regardless of our belief or faith?





(Here's a song I like - It's very human yet more than spiritual for me.)

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2490) Message boards : Politics : Censorship - CLOSED (Message 718583)
Posted 26 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...
Quick, someone red-x this!
...


Sorry.

We would oblige but we're too busy being X-ed ourselves...

;o)~

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2491) Message boards : Politics : Censorship - CLOSED (Message 718447)
Posted 25 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


That is just such a gross distortion of the female figure.

SNIP MY STUFF....

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Some like to abuse their own freedom of speech to provoke and degrade others.


I didn't mean to abuse my freedom nor degrade another.

I think I was provocative though.


The poster of that picture knows exactly the message he was conveying about his 'respect' for women when he posted it.


It's an image posted in lue of words.

I interpreted as best I could.

(Maybe the poster wanted me to discover the very issue I am so badly trying to express?. I have no clue.)


As I said I wouldn't censor the image.

But I don't like it no more than I would like a cartoon of a blond man with a bulge in his trousers the shape of a turnip and holding an obvious petalled rose or lotus shaped ice-pop to his face.

Though I doubt we would see such an image.

(Maybe we are being given carte blanc to portray such images? Men with extreme bodies and big bulges and suckin things?... Maybe not...)

I still believe that censorship isn't just about what we tell people they can or can't do.



It's often about what we portray and maybe more about what we don't.


Does this make any sense?


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2492) Message boards : Politics : UK government nationalises Northern Rock (Message 718344)
Posted 25 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...
Well my birthday was this past friday.


I missed it. I'm Sorry.

I hope you enjoyed your birthday.

I hope the year ahead will be special for you BrainSmashR.


cRunchy.

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2493) Message boards : Politics : Censorship - CLOSED (Message 718192)
Posted 25 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


That is just such a gross distortion of the female figure.

A woman with un-natural body and strange lemon shaped breasts sucking on an ice-pop that is a euphemism for a penis is not my idea of something a mod should post.

I'm not suprised there are so few women (members or mods) involved in these forums if we represent women in such a way.

Sometimes we don't need to censor...

... We just have to create a vision of the world that people might not feel welcome in.

Would I censor the image? No.

Would I think it's a pile of dung? Yes.


Sorry.


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2494) Message boards : Politics : UK government nationalises Northern Rock (Message 717582)
Posted 24 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Just out of interest what is the percentage of the population in the USA that are currently unemployed? (Not including people who are ill or disabled or with an alternative income.)

2495) Message boards : Politics : UK government nationalises Northern Rock (Message 717572)
Posted 23 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIPS Lots more...

A few years ago I had a guy come to an adult language class I was working in.

He was 55 and unemployed and for whatever reason he had never learnt to read.

.......


"because he couldn't read the manuals or the computer screen..."

Clearly a victim of his own lifestyle. Are we to believe that in 50+ years he NEVER had the time or opportunity to learn to read or did he CHOOSE to be that way? Bad stuff happens to good people everyday for reasons we cannot control...lack of education isn't one of those reasons.

...snip...


The story is true.

Tough luck if it bothers you.

Sorry if this individual does not fit into your concrete value system.

Since you know near zip about the guy it's a bit sad adding your own interpretation of his life just to bolster your world view.


...BTW, it's learned, not learnt


Really.

Sorry again :o( - I didn't mean to tax your education.

You already know I'm from the UK.

I use the word 'learnt' but you can spell it which ever way you wish.

... or were you just trying to show how much cleverer you were than me?


I guess it doesn't matter too much.


The story about the 55 year old guy is still true though and if you ever come to my city I will take you to meet him.

He may not fit your perfectionist view of the world but he's a great human being.

At least I think so...
... So shoot me.



It's an odd world no doubt.


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2496) Message boards : Politics : UK government nationalises Northern Rock (Message 717464)
Posted 23 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIPS Lots...

By weak you mean uneducated and unskilled, right?

In other words, those who feed off the system rather than contribute to it...


A few years ago I had a guy come to an adult language class I was working in.

He was 55 and unemployed and for whatever reason he had never learnt to read.

In all ways you would judge him as uneducated and someone feeding off society.

As I got to know him he told me his story.

He started work at 15 years of age and continued until he was about 53.

He worked doing any manual job he could learn by sight since he couldn't read.

In his last few years he worked in a fabrications factory (metal stamping and mouldings) but when he hit 53 the factory decided to install computerised systems.

He was highly skilled in his job yet when the computerised machines appeared he was suddenly deemed 'unskilled' because he couldn't read the manuals or the computer screen...


Now tell me:

This man who was life long 'uneducated' and ended up 'unemployed' at 55 yet had worked all his life and had then been deemed 'unskilled'....

.... Was he not worthy of the same value I would afford you or me?



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2497) Message boards : Politics : UK government nationalises Northern Rock (Message 717453)
Posted 23 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
When big banks get in trouble, guess who bails them out... we the people thats who. So much for the idea of let the markets be free. When big business fails, socialism saves their ass.

I think I'm leaning more socialist every day. Plug for www.wsws.org. If you want to read different ideas than the so called free marketers who leave us with their messes.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/feb2008/rock-f22.shtml

Solution? Stop leaning socialist. You're using straw man arguments against 'free markets' to buttress your dying hopes for your pathetic socialistic attempts at .........fill in the blank.

Classic lies. Have you even READ your own initial comment? How BIZARRE you sound.......


I think we all live a kind of puritanism.

I've never seen a 'true' socialist society. (The old USSR certainly was neither communist nor socialist.)

I don't think I've even seen a 'true' capitalist society either.

Yet we argue for or against with such ferver as if thee things were of some real importance.

The only true socialism I have seem is at the community and family level - Where people were far more important than wealth.



I hope I never live in a purist society.

It would be like setting ourselves up to become fossils.


Peanut is right in that we as a social society end up paying for the failed risks of those who live the capitalist dream.




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2498) Message boards : Politics : UK government nationalises Northern Rock (Message 717301)
Posted 23 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
When big banks get in trouble, guess who bails them out... we the people thats who. So much for the idea of let the markets be free. When big business fails, socialism saves their ass.

I think I'm leaning more socialist every day. Plug for www.wsws.org. If you want to read different ideas than the so called free marketers who leave us with their messes.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/feb2008/rock-f22.shtml


Perhaps people have the wrong ideas of banks.

Banks were always bailed out by 'us the people'.. That's how they make their money... They take our money and take risks with it.

If banks fail to get a good return we get a lower interest rate or the ecconomy suffers... Ergo: We pay which ever way things go.



We are in error for assuming that 'nationalisation' has anything to do with 'socialism'...


Nationalising Northern Rock was all about keeping it afloat and ensuring that those investors with a higher than national average income were protected.

An ecconomic and political act at the nations expense for sure.

Hardly a socialist act though.


State capitalism maybe!


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2499) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 715615)
Posted 20 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I don't think it is our ability to quote from or live by a book that God wants.

If God didn't want us to live by His books, He wouldn't have given them to us... ;)


I wasn't born with his book in my hand.

(Nor will I become your new R\\B or antipathy.)

You have the book God gave you to help you.

Most of us only have the universe we find ourselves in.


Some have what you call God's book.

I don't.

Youpidou..

Should I stop wasting time and walk down towards hell now?


What if someone (let's say from deepest evil communist hated no bible old russia) walked into a burning building to save lives knowing they would die themselves?

Would all the pages of God's book be able to teach someone that kind of willingness or sacrifice?


Who would you choose:

The person who 'quotes' good deeds or the person who actually 'does' good deeds?


God gave you his book.

He didn't give it to me.


Perhaps the book readers are more worthy or maybe they need scripture more than the rest of the world.


Youpidou..
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2500) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 715544)
Posted 20 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
(One of the reasons this thread does annoy me is because people love their quotes so much they use them as a way of trying to beguile or hide their knowledge from others. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr.....)


Conversely I could say, this thread annoys me because I feel as though I am talking to a brick wall...

I'm not trying to beguile or hide anything, but I've come to realize that only God can open the eyes of disbelievers... I'm not wrong, there are many who have the same knowledge as I do... However, It was foolish of me to try and share it with others... Only God is qualified to teach the things of God... I, of all people, should've known better... ;)

(But you are right, I do luv my Bible-bits more than life itself. I just wish that I had someone to share them with.)


Seems we both possess the gift of emotion.

I didn't mean to push you to the point of being annoyed or hurt by me.


I'm not a brick wall and I don't expect you to be god-like.


I don't think it is our ability to quote from or live by a book that God wants.

He wants us.


We are the jewel in his eyes..

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2501) Message boards : Politics : Justice for the Guantánamo Six? (Message 715504)
Posted 20 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...........SNIP.....

Given that one of our allies has already expressed "some concerns" about impartiality and the methods used to extract information from the detainees, should we be similarly concerned about the use of military tribunals as the judicial venue for 9/11 prosecutions?



Personally I believe ALL trials should be governed by 'public' law.

The military have every right to stop and hold combatants but they have zero right to judge.

If the police in my country started to hold court I would happily riot.


It will be a sad day for America when it allows the military to judge those that society should judge.

Although I suspect the world will forget this trial quite quickly as most people are tired of both the issue and the US and Western response.


How does this situation compare to the Nuremberg trials?


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2502) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 715460)
Posted 20 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
PS: What are "Biblical times" Jeffrey?

Matthew 16:3
Can ye not discern the signs of the times?

The correct answer is: Some people can, and some people can't... ;)


I asked you some time ago not to quote the bible at me. (I wasn't being disrespectfull. I just prefer your personal thoughts <however informed>.)

I take it you are suggesting you can discern 'biblical times' and I can not.

Let me ask you another question then: When did these "biblical times" start (which year?)?

Are you willing to tell me what "biblical times" are/mean/represent in a way I can understand?

Why not share?

(One of the reasons this thread does annoy me is because people love their quotes so much they use them as a way of trying to beguile or hide their knowledge from others. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr.....)

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2503) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 715397)
Posted 19 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Let's not bring it into the discussion if you want to continue this thread.......

Closing this thread has been the goal ever since it went from being anti-religious to being semi-religious... ;)

(Which is a shame considering that we are living in such Biblical times.)


I've always felt this thread suffered from a kind of 'bookishness' and 'formalised religion' that often brought too much emphasis on the Judaic, Christian and Islamic traditions. (Probably due to the mostly white westernised membership.)

Perhaps that is all this thread could ever really achieve?

I'm not sure however that just because a 'religious thread' does not 'quote scripture' it is any less religious or spiritual?

After all we all have our own paths to follow and in this we are alone.

I suspect this thread isn't under threat. (Though our individual posts might be if well out of order.)

I'm not sure who wants to see this thread closed?

It's a great place for both the pro- and anti- religious to expouse their beliefs by rote...

... but then there is every one else!


(PS: What are "Biblical times" Jeffrey? Should I be scared? ;)

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2504) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday - "The Final Front Ear" (Message 715366)
Posted 19 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Happy Birthday, Oh wanderers of the boinc-mos.
It's my birthday today,
AND I'm USER OF THE DAY!!!!!!!!!



GreggyBee

This Is A Special Day

Because It Is Your Day

Happy Birthday.



cRunchy
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2505) Message boards : Politics : Letter to my niece, (Message 713958)
Posted 17 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Noooooo...should Obama be elected........

I am seriously concerned that there will be several assassination attempts on him...
The KKK and other supremecists
just could not let this go by.......if elected, I seriously suspect he will be assassinated........

He will not live out a term of office.....

Not my view.....just wondering what the rest of the country will do.........


I suspect Obama knows the risk to his life.

Regardless of his politics I have a great deal of respect for him for just standing up.

If he is murdered for being black the shame will not be on the supremecists it will be on Americans in general for allowing it to happen.

Courage to try is such a valuable thing.

2506) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 713390)
Posted 16 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

SNIP lots.....


Obtuse......I dunno.......
Nobody's RAC has anything to do with the weight of their opinions here....nor whether they happen to wear a green star.....

Let's not bring it into the discussion if you want to continue this thread.......



Sorry. I was offering alternative methods of valuing peoples contributions relative to the post I responded to. (If you missed it I was actually being a bit facetious... Sorry again...)

I don't think I talked about the "weight of opinion" relative to RAC or cash.

As far as I am concerned as long as people crunch they are valuable contributers.

The fact that SETI adds a 'green star' to cash donors means that it wants to create a visible public distinction.

People with 'green stars' are visibly different. (SETI created that distinction - Not me!)

If you look at those who have been over zealous in telling 'others' (meaning those 'without stars') to donate cash they have all carried the 'star'. (Prove me wrong and I'll apologise.)

I personally don't care about volume of RACs, stars or donations.

I do care however when someone suggests these forums should become 'paid for' or by implication people who do not give cash are of less value.

I'm not sure these last few post belong in the "religious" thread but for me there is something very personal and valuable (and perhaps at times spiritual) in people volunteering and giving of whatever resources they have.

However when we presure each other to give more and more that usually signifies a system trying to control or in polarization, collapse or without growth.


Perhaps I'm just being over sensitive?


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2507) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday - "The Final Front Ear" (Message 713295)
Posted 16 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Happy Birthday TFFE

I'm So Proud To Be A Member.



Click Me For Song



(and a big thanks to Keith Stanley for making us special.)

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2508) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 713213)
Posted 15 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Well over eighty replies to this thread. And what do I see. Many if not most with very little RAC's for this project, most with little credit (Cobblestones) for this project, most without a little green star to show monies support for this project, and many over 1000 to 2500 + replies to this project forum. So the support for this project is to show a reply to a question and what else. A place to voice an opinion?

Point being if one is to use the resources of a project let us pay our fair share. For every opinion...xxx number of dollars. My opinion.




You could have attached your viewpoint to almost any thread throughout these SETI boards. Why this thread?

It's true that 'religion', 'politics' and 'personal freedoms' do create the most debate and responses on the internet or in any other form of communication. That's kind of expected but I wouldn't want to tax or charge discussion.

I only have one PC running 24/7 and you have such an enormous RAC compared to mine. (50 times mine.)

To be fair to our fellow humans maybe instead of charging people for "involvement in the forum per-se" we should charge people based upon their ability to contribute resources.

Your ability seems to be 50 times mine (6800/130). I hope you will donate $50 for ever person that can afford to donate $1?

SETI as far as I am concerned is a 'research, experimental and discovery' based project and as such will always rely on the value of 'opinion' to survive (as opposed to 'neccesity' or 'social good'.)

I still think it would be interesting to see how SETI fares should the forums close down.

Not all donations are cash.

DON'T forget that just because someone doesn't have a nice posh green star next to their name it doesn't mean they have never donated 'cash' as there must be some annonymous donors?


If I ever walked into a place of worship and they started to make me feel bad for not giving them cash I'd walk out.

If I ever volunteered for a charity and did my donated physical work and then was targetted by the managers for cash from my pocket because they were failing to raise cash from outside I'd feel abused.

Just to be perverse: 'TV Evangalists' often do charge dollars for opinions and pressure their body of faithful to give more than they should.

Be odd if SETI started to become evangelical! ;)

(Sorry... I am being obtuse.... but I get the feeling just being a volunteer is no longer celebrated here.. :o()

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2509) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 710746)
Posted 10 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Shariah is drawn from the Koran and the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad. It prescribes religious and secular duties, along with punishments for their breach.


Hmm... Being put to death for murder, losing a hand for theft, being castrated for rape, I'd imagine the crime rate would be dramatically reduced...
... SNIP...


Hundreds of societies over hundreds of thousands of years have had these punishments in one form or another yet we still have murder, theft and rape..

The crime rate in England when we used to hang criminals was essentially no different to when we outlawed state condoned killings / murder.

These punishments have done near nothing to reduce these crimes.

(Sorry if you were being ironic Jeffrey... I just could never imagine condoning rules or laws for killing someone or choping off part of their bodies.)

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2510) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Recipes Needed... (Message 710698)
Posted 10 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Meany Beany Burgers
======================

In a large bowl add:

    Break up 2 pieces of old dry bread and rub the contents in the palms of your hands to make crumbs.

    Finely slice 1/4 onion and break up in to the bowl.

    Add a pinch of salt and a 1/4 teaspoon of curry spices.

    Add 1/2 teaspoon of veg' oil.

    Mix dry ingredients.

    Add a couple of spoons of "Baked Beans" from a tin (I'm in the UK. I don't know what you call them where you live. <EG: Soy beans in tomatoe sauce?>)


Stick your hands in the bowl and squish everything together until it makes a firm burger like mass.

(You might need to use less or more beans as needed...)

Shape into burger rounds. (3/4 inch+ thick)

Fry in a shallow pan until golden.


Eat with some chilli sauce and cucumber.


These won't make you look sexy but should fill your tummy.

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2511) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Curious why people don't donate to Seti@home (Message 710685)
Posted 10 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
One of things that always happens when we see the words "SETI" and "Donate(tion)" in a thread is that mods jump in and we see banners asking us to 'donate ,donate , donate or feel embarrased'.

I guess I understand why fund raisers pile on top of those who might 'look like' potential donors but to be on the other side of that is not very comfortable.

It would be really nice if next time a member brought up 'issues' around donations as a thread the mods and fundraisers left us well alone.

After all who are the ones who can donate.,., and would you want to feel people breathing down your neck every time the word donation was mentioned?..


I have no solution to SETI's obvious poverty.....

(I assume SETI is in poverty as it is encouraging it's mods to hammer its crunching-volunteers for a few extra dollars here and there...)

... but shouldn't SETI be fundraising from government, business, the rich and broadly across society and not a few hundred regular forum members?


Sounds harsh but... We do our bit... SETI Please go fundraise from those who don't...
2512) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Recipes Needed... (Message 710630)
Posted 10 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...
If you have a good recipe ( and you wouldn't mind it being put on a website ) then please post it here.
...


Which website are you going to copy our recipes to? and why?



My favourite fast cook sweets are "banana fritters".

You'll have to work out the measurements & heat for yourself but the basics are:


Heat some oil in a large pan. (2 inches+ deep should do.)

In a large bowl put:

    1 cup of self-raising flour (or plain flour with pinch of baking-soda / bicarb or splash of coke/cola.)
    A desert spoon of sugar.
    A big pinch of cinnamon.


Then add cold water to make a thick paste. (Heavy batter.)

Chop a banana into 2 or 3.

Dust the banana with a little dry flour.

Roll the banana parts in the batter until fully covered.

Deep fry until golden brown.


You can also use pear, mango, apple etc slices.


Serve the fritters with a side dish of yoghurt or melted chocolate & cream.


Grow fat with joy.

2513) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 709182)
Posted 7 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Can you translate that sentence into Arabic?

I said that I would be the 'checker' not the 'translator'... ;)

أنا سأفحص الترجمة


If you could not 'translate' what you say you can 'check' I would not trust you.

To be a 'checker' without the willingness to try and show or prove (or translate) what you think is right or wrong is pretty dishonest.



====

What does this sentence mean? (In English..)

أنا سأفحص الترجمة


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2514) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 709062)
Posted 7 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... snip ...

If so, I will become our resident Anglo-Arabic checker...

... snip ....


Can you translate that sentence into Arabic? (Phonetics accepted..)



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2515) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 709023)
Posted 7 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Since I'm now learning Arabic and studying Islam I'll be posting some of my favorite quotations from Imams and Clerics in here. Prominent ones.


To learn is a wonderful thing.

How far have you gotten with speaking or writing Arabic?

Are you learning using English phonetics or working on Arabic script?

Will you become our resident Anglo-Arabic translator?

To learn is a wonderful thing.


======
PS:



That's an interesting image ("ForMotherEngland.jpg") of your's 'Scary Capitalist'...

It's quite a low pixel image.

What is the object (are the objects) laid out on the English flag?

What do they represent?

It kind of looks like a gun.

Is it a "fun" parody of a weapon?



2516) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Oooooh and so super secret too! (Message 706897)
Posted 1 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

You close the door
Lock the windows
Draw the curtains
Clear the floor
Comb your hair

Then dance like a crazy person.



You're A Secret Dancer.



.. And the truth is: Nobody really cares.


Dance yourself silly...
2517) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Oooooh and so super secret too! (Message 706709)
Posted 1 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


... SNIP my crinkly stuff..........



Au contraire cRunchy, I enjoyed your secrets, no mess that I can see ;)

Doh! I wanted to tell people I was nuts. Really! I am! ;P



We all know you're nuts anyway.

Ironic Secrets.


and we never stole a thing.


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2518) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Oooooh and so super secret too! (Message 706616)
Posted 1 Feb 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Come on, lets hear your secrets; spill the beans; tell us the juicy gossip. Your own or some other's....

Go for it...


On the fun side:

My hair is not really straw yellow as in my avatar. (Though it was when I was a wee bairn.)


On the other side:

I have a really nice bum. (So I am told.)


To be serious:

I'm not too hard to read.


It would be nice:

If people did not feel so scared to be honest.




Public Image.



.

Sorry ICE if I messed up your thread.

You people always have so much fun.





Oh and yea I'm nuts.. Just like you....

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2519) Message boards : Cafe SETI : When You Were Young. (Message 704775)
Posted 27 Jan 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Even though I'm still legally a youth... SNIP...


I think 'youth' starts when we are able to capture our first memory.

After that it is a matter of perspective.



(Anyone got any more "fun" youtube 'being young' song links?)

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2520) Message boards : Cafe SETI : When You Were Young. (Message 702751)
Posted 22 Jan 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
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Being a long haired,bell bottom, leather fringed vest, pot smoking hippie...


So not too different to now then... Giggles... :o))...

(Just playing with you...)


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2521) Message boards : Cafe SETI : When You Were Young. (Message 702744)
Posted 22 Jan 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

When You Were Young.


Have fun.

What did you enjoy when you were young?


2522) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Dogbytes (Message 702236)
Posted 21 Jan 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Dogbytes Forever


Dennis was a man who knew how to be human and how to share his unique view on life.

I spoke to him once on the phone. He had a warm and friendly way of being and was one of those people who made you feel immediately at ease.

I'll miss him because he often stopped us in our tracks and then some how made us sparkle with his very own sense of humour..


Dogbytes Forever
2523) Message boards : Politics : Benazir Bhutto assassinated by Islamists (Message 700097)
Posted 14 Jan 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


Benazir Bhutto - Former Prime Minister of Pakistan



(Jeffrey. 99% of us don't think you are a terrorist. Stop milking the situation.)


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2524) Message boards : Politics : Benazir Bhutto assassinated by Islamists (Message 699508)
Posted 12 Jan 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I know I have no control here but I'm probably the only person who has referred to 'Benazir Bhutto'.

Can I ask that this thread is closed.

(The title of this thread has also been altered.)

If 'Benazir Bhutto' was an American-Asian or European-Asian opposition politician that had been assasinated I am sure everyone would be offering their condolences.

If she was white we would be in fighting mood?

She was not white though and this thread was just a vehicle for anti-islamic hate.

Benazir Bhutto was a human being that was killed.

You can ban me if you like but to continue this thread is like walking on the grave of a dead person.

Benazir Bhutto.

This thread is so far off topic.

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2525) Message boards : Politics : Nuclear Fission Power (Message 699225)
Posted 11 Jan 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
cRunchy...What time periods are you talking about when you say that photo electric panels degrade?
Are we talking decades or a couple of years?
This is the first time I've heard a concern about this issue.
I better do some looking.

As to reducing our usage, I hope everyone is willing to cut back by walking to the library or hanging clothes to dry, among other things.

I'd rather have stiff towels than a nuclear plant nearby.


Every thing degrades. It depends on the construction, materials and environment.

Decades. Maybe.

Photo electric cells are not all produced from the same materials and if mass produced (cheap for all) will be made to a lower quality.

Over their life time their output will degrade.


Think about this:

It may seem cheap-ish to produce a photo-cell today because we have a heavily subsidised technological oil ecconomy but what will these electronic components cost tomorrow when there is little oil left.

Would those cells not just heat and warm our homes but could they power the industry needed to replenish lost cells or produce even the basic requirements that we need on an industrial level?


At present to produce a photo-electric cell costs more if you include not just the final consumer price but its resource impact than it produces in usable electricity. We just don't see the actual cost because it is oil that has subsidised the production.

I just think if we are worried that oil may run out or that it is polluting the world we should look for technologies that are the least oil dependent in their production as possible.


I'm not sure I can explain myself better.

I don't mind stiff towels either.

Though I do wonder without the kind of power we get from oil whether we would have any towels. (We don't grow cotton in the UK so rely on oil for it's transport...)


Sorry. I'm just mostly thinking aloud..

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2526) Message boards : Politics : Nuclear Fission Power (Message 699076)
Posted 11 Jan 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Snip...
Personally, I'd rather see every rooftop in the country covered in solar panels.


What do you mean by solar panels?

Heat-exchangers or photo-electric panels (sorry simplicity?)

If you mean photo-electric panels most would take many many years to recover the energy and pay for the polution that was used to create them. (and most would have degraded by then..)

Heat-exchangers are an excellent idea for anyone in a climate with enough sunlight.... Though to store that energy and use it to power lights (for example) they would need generators, volatile batteries, electronics etc...


I have no problem with nuclear power I just don't think we have learnt how to use the power we already have well enough.


A question people here may not like but is perhaps interesting:

How can we use so much energy searching the stars via SETI when there are millions without even one light bulb in their homes?

The obvious answer is that our governments will try anything including nuclear power so that you and I can continue to play computer games and so that SETI can still search the stars...



We can blame our governments but we are the end consumers of all that energy.


I think the question isn't about whether we want nuclear power stations and waste but whether we are willing to give up many of the energy and resource heavy benefits we enjoy in our lives?


Am I wrong?

:o)~

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2527) Message boards : Politics : Benazir Bhutto assassinated by Islamists (Message 699059)
Posted 11 Jan 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I don't feel that I'm allowed to respond to you. 'Nuff said. So in the future asking me questions that I'd otherwise like to answer are not likely to be 'fruitful'.


"Allowed"??

I'm asking you (as has another person) to post specific instances regarding Jeffery's support for illicit Islamic/Muslim activities in this thread...it doesn't require a private response.


I've asked this question before also.

I'm not sure I've ever seen Jeffrey support violence (Islamic or otherwise.)

I think it has become all to easy to call people "terrorists" in the same way children call each other bad names in the school yard/playground.

I really think if someone accuses someone else of a criminal or unsociable activity on these forums and they refuse or ignore the request to explain openly then they should at least have the guts (strength) to PM the board mods or admins.

I don't think Jeffrey is blameless in this (he likes to play the enigmatic one) but I can't see how he is guilty of the accusations of supporting terrorism.


We make our world what we wish..
2528) Message boards : Politics : Benazir Bhutto assassinated by Islamists (Message 697770)
Posted 6 Jan 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I sit on public transport every day which means that for every one christian you sit next to on your plane I sit next to hundreds of people I have no idea what their religions are.. and I've never been killed or attacked yet!!!


Again, you're missing the points. The world on all continents right now is not under threat by Christians or Atheists or Unitarians or Buddhists or Sikhs or whoever wearing suicide vests. Okay? Come back and deal with reality please.


Sorry I didn't mention the many Muslims I have sat next to on busses, lived next door to, been on planes with, worked with their children, worked with them, had as neighbours.

Not everyone lives in a mono-colour or mono-culture or mono-religion society.

I'm not saying there are not sadening events happening in our world today.

I'm saying that for even one muslim (or any other religious, political or philosophical terrorist or activist) there are thousands upon thousands that do not want or desire to harm anyone else.

I can love my society without having to hate others.


I agree. Islamic extremists should stop hating others.


We should all stop hating each other.


Please let me know if you have any other bizaar questions for me Scary Capitalist.


I have plenty of questions for you. I'm just not convinced your biased views of the west would lend credible answers to any of them.


That's you just making outlandish statements again.

The bias I have about the West is that I think we have an enourmous amount to give to the world and much to learn. We are no more perfect that anyone else.

If you think I'm anti-western just give me examples and I'll try and put your mind at rest.

I still think Benazir Bhutto's life is something to be celebrated rather than simply consumed in anti-islamic propoganda.


Seems to me we have become so focused on hating the terrorists that we see them everywhere - yet we forget the victims probably made more of a difference throughout their lives in creating a better world than any single terrorist or murderer ever did.

Many of those victims are just as likely to be muslim and not just christian, American or British.. et-al...



What is it exactly about the West that you really think I am biased about?


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2529) Message boards : Politics : h-d-y-g-b (epilogue) (Message 696960)
Posted 3 Jan 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I know I might look like Mr Stupid but what does "h-d-y-g-b (epilogue)" actually mean?

You all seem to know.

Can someone tell me.



The Thread "How do You Get Banished"


Thank you Sirius.

I just wondered.

2530) Message boards : Politics : h-d-y-g-b (epilogue) (Message 696941)
Posted 3 Jan 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I know I might look like Mr Stupid but what does "h-d-y-g-b (epilogue)" actually mean?

You all seem to know.

Can someone tell me.

2531) Message boards : Politics : Benazir Bhutto assassinated by Islamists (Message 696872)
Posted 3 Jan 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Benazir Bhutto named Tipperary Peace Prize winner.

Interesting that we should have discussed issues relating to Ireland earlier as the 'Tipperary Peace Prize' is an Irish commendation for peace..



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2532) Message boards : Politics : Benazir Bhutto assassinated by Islamists (Message 696711)
Posted 2 Jan 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Jeffrey and Crunchy and others that seem to sympathisize with terrorists and refuse REFUSE to renounce those acts have got the issue all turned around.

The issue is not if 'ALL ' muslims or 'all' Irish...whatever are terrorists and blow up little babies all the time.

The issue is the ideas and the FUNDAMENTAL practice in reality of what is done.

Damn! You people spent too much time in sophistry and religious classes instead of logic 101.


...SNIP...


OK Scary Capitalist.

Since you named me and want to put me on the spot here is my response:

No I do not sympathise with terrorists.

No I would never blow up or murder a child or any other human being.

No I have no greater love for religious or spiritual people than I do for capitalists or philosophists.


Please don't try and make a fool out of me 'Scary Capitalist'.


...
I don't get too afraid of a Christian sitting next to me on a plane. See? This is called being rational.
...


I guess I am happy for you.

I sit on public transport every day which means that for every one christian you sit next to on your plane I sit next to hundreds of people I have no idea what their religions are.. and I've never been killed or attacked yet!!!

I'm glad you like your rational but why try to make fun of me.


I can love my society without having to hate others.

Please let me know if you have any other bizaar questions for me Scary Capitalist.

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2533) Message boards : Politics : Benazir Bhutto assassinated by Islamists (Message 696617)
Posted 2 Jan 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
For all I argue I hope everyone here finds peace and happiness in 2008.


Happy New Year Folks



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2534) Message boards : Politics : Benazir Bhutto assassinated by Islamists (Message 696616)
Posted 2 Jan 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Why blame every Muslim for the actions of political groups or criminals.

Because they are BIGOTS! ;)


I don't believe that all people who fear are bigots no more than I believe all Muslims are terrorists.

I think it's better for us to only target those who damage us than we try blame everyone.
2535) Message boards : Politics : Benazir Bhutto assassinated by Islamists (Message 696615)
Posted 2 Jan 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

(PS: The IRA did blow off the knee caps of people and quite often had it's own operatives explode along with their bombs... Not always but that is the reality... But I wouldn't blame everyone from Eire for the IRA's actions... Why blame every Muslim for the actions of political groups or criminals.)


The majority of the Irish people spoke out against it all. As already pointed out in this thread, the muslim moderates won't speak out, & should we non-muslim speak out, muslims label us racist.

As Ireland has proved, should the moderates gain courage & speak out vehemently, then maybe matters will change for the best.


We should all speak out but we should not label everyone as the enemy.

My city was attacked so many times by the IRA. I understood their political desires but I had no power to make Ireland free.

I still think they should not have attacked me and my family and neighbours but for all our loss and fear I would not have blamed all the Irish.

We should speak out but if we are the good ones we need to not simply hate.

That's my way of being.

I'm just sharing it.
2536) Message boards : Politics : Benazir Bhutto assassinated by Islamists (Message 696609)
Posted 1 Jan 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Oooo Ooo!

Christians didn't do this new assassination.. Muslims did!

And if anybody ever one time did some act of violence in the name of what I believe in I'd be SCREAMING from the roof tops to stop them. THE SETI boards would ban me right away for being too vehement in my antagonism toward it.

We (atheists, christians, americans, brits, aussies, kiwis....whatever) IRISH REBELS !! (Like's been said...which is a slight against our good irish friends) don't make a habit of sawing off heads of 'infidels'.

Call a spade a spade.


Most of us haven't had explosives to hand but the history of atheists, christians, americans, brits, aussies, kiwis....whatever is not so pure.

We have done our share of vile acts.

It doesn't mean those few Muslims who do evil acts should be forgiven but it does mean that we should not feel so self-righteous.


(PS: The IRA did blow off the knee caps of people and quite often had it's own operatives explode along with their bombs... Not always but that is the reality... But I wouldn't blame everyone from Eire for the IRA's actions... Why blame every Muslim for the actions of political groups or criminals.)



2537) Message boards : Cafe SETI : whAt Is nEEded @ tHe SETI Cafe . . . (Message 696579)
Posted 1 Jan 2008 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
whAt Is nEEded @ tHe SETI Cafe . . .


The same that is needed all over the world:

A good place for all of us to be and a place where we find and create in each other the best of our hopes and aspirations.


I Hope 2008 Will Be A Year That Celebrates Each And Every One Of Us.


Happy New Year.


cRunchy.
2538) Message boards : Politics : Benazir Bhutto assassinated by Islamists (Message 696160)
Posted 31 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Benazir Bhutto made a difference to at least 120 million people in Pakistan.... and we can't even give her our few voices in this forum.


But that's my point - She was a woman. Islam will not tolerate a woman making decisions for the men. As far as they are concerned, women are 3rd class citizens.

All men should not forget that we would not exist if not for them.




Perhaps thats the image we have been fed.

You are not completely wrong but Benazir was a woman with enourmous power even before she was murdered.

I do suspect her gender had something to do with her death... but there was a lot more..

I wonder when the USA will have a black or female president...

Will the UK ever have a black Prime Minister?

Not exactly the same thing as the denial of women's right to power on an everyday level... but non of our societies are righteous.


Benazir could have made something special for all of us.

We will never know now.


2539) Message boards : Politics : Benazir Bhutto assassinated by Islamists (Message 696134)
Posted 31 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I get the feeling some people miss the old days. That kind of security that having an enemy somewhere out there gave to the 'Cold War' generation.

It sounds like we have just surplanted one form of angst for another.


Benazir Bhutto who was most likely to have been the next leader of Pakistan was killed.

Whether the killer was Islamic makes no difference since 90%++ of Pakistan is Islamic in principle.


Benazir was killed by someone who just did not want to see her as a woman, or as a popularist leader or as a strong international voice win the election.


She was killed. Not in too disimilar a way to JFK.


These are our assasinated leaders.

Yet all we seem to talk about is whether Islam or something out-there is bad... blah blah...


Does anyone here actually have anything worthy to say about Benazir Bhutto?

I suspect that in one day of her life she has made a greater difference to the world than all of our posts about how bad this or that religion could ever make.


Or was her name in this thread title just a useful way for someone to have yet another attack on Islam...


Benazir Bhutto made a difference to at least 120 million people in Pakistan.... and we can't even give her our few voices in this forum.




Our world is often not made by what we try to create. It can be made just as easily by what we choose to ignore.



(PS: Oh. and yes I'm from the UK and no I am not pro-Islamic either... Oh pants maybe I'm not British...)

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2540) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 695778)
Posted 30 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...

But if I understand the argument correctly, I think that cRunchy is saying spirituality and religion are unrelated topics. They are not.

... snip


Qui-Gon,

I am not saying that at all.

I'm saying the opposite.

I don't see any difference between religion, spirituality or my awe for life.

I'm just asking in my annoying way that this thread should not just end up as a set of scriptures or an anti-religious thread.

The concept that 'religion' and 'spirituality' is divided was not made by me but is a well and long understood seperation of thought. (... I never created the concept of this thread.. so don't blame me!!)

If anyone is not interested in the topic, then simply don't post here.


I always hated that sort of statement as we would not be here without having some sort of interest.

I just came here a few weeks ago with a spiritual question in mind but found 2 people in particular locked into a linear arguement...

Sorry for my reaction..




(I know It's not my baby.)
2541) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 695771)
Posted 30 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Most of us already know the religious and political scriptures or arguements.


If that were true, people wouldn't get so uptight over the posting of supporting scripture... ;)


Jeffrey. If I asked one thing of you:

If I ever asked or talked about something spiritual would you do me the favour of not quoting scripture but instead offered me the best of your own personal experiences (which may of course be informed by scripture) as a response?

Could you that?


I guess one of the questions I am asking is whether this is a 'political thread about religion' or 'a thread about the politics of religion' or 'a thread about religion' or 'a thread for people to share their spirituality'?

At the moment I doubt the latter two.



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2542) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 695760)
Posted 29 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I wouldn't like to see this thread disapear.

I'd just like to see the bi-polar arguements between 'Jeffrey', 'SC' change to something more meaningful.

I don't think either are wrong per-se.

... but if I wanted to talk about something that was spiritually important to me I think neither of those two positions could give me a personalised or humane perspective.

Most of us already know the religious and political scriptures or arguements.

I do feel that when we talk about 'politics' or 'religion' we get into the arguement about who quotes better than who...


I don't think I have made my point well.

Sorry.


Can I ask that next time this thread get's recreated 'Qui-Gon' (or et-al) that the title gets changed to the "Spiritual Thread" just to see if that allows for a greater range of different beliefs?

Just a request :o)

2543) Message boards : Politics : Benazir Bhutto assassinated by Islamists (Message 695747)
Posted 29 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Former Prime Minister of Pakistan.

She survived the baby bomb blast last week and was now eliminated by suicide assassins just now.

Another setback for the democratic semi pro freedom movement for Pakistan.



I spent a long time in Pakistan.

Primarily I was part of projects from my city that took young adults who had raised cash to help refugees.

After the projects were over I stayed on my own.

I have probably travelled more of Pakistan than any Pakistani has.

In all my time there I never felt threatened or in any greater danger than I did in the UK.

I went where ever I wanted. I slept in local hotels. I ate in the local cafes.

I never once was mistreated.

I was treated either like a guest or just like another person on the street.


Pakistan has stood on the borders of different worlds for a long time and though Islamic has kept a sense of proportion.


I don't know who killed Benazir (not sure I trust the news reports yet) but it was a shamefull act.

She could have made our world better.

I think Pakistan has lost a jewel.


I hope we can find a way to support Pakistan without playing out our own political needs.


Pakistan Eik Sitara Hai.



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2544) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 694745)
Posted 26 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Does no one else find it odd that we have the 11th numeration of a "Religious Thread"


No more odd than the fact that as member since '99 you've chosen not to complain about it until now... ;)


Do those dates and numbers really matter to you Jeffrey?

If you are missing arguing with 'Scary Capitalist' don't blame me.

Go tease him if you have a need.
2545) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 694454)
Posted 25 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
We Are More.


Does no one else find it odd that we have the 11th numeration of a "Religious Thread" created in the "Politics" section of the SETI forums?

Doesn't this sound like a formula for everlasting disaster?

Someone quotes religious scripture... Someone quotes non-religious scripture... War...

No doubt endless fun for those that love fighting over who can catch the other person out but...

It seems a cruel joke on all of us!

(Who created this thread anyway???)

:(
2546) Message boards : Cafe SETI : whAt Is nEEded @ tHe SETI Cafe . . . (Message 693477)
Posted 21 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Snip...

Respect is something earnt.
Faith is something given.
Perhaps faith and respect go hand in hand.



I would say that faith is taught.
Respect is earned.



I guess people come to have faith in different ways.


I don't want to learn to have faith.

I'd like to have it as an act of hope.


I think it is so much more mine that way.



On a personal level I'm rubbish at faith..
but I still value what it might do for me...




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2547) Message boards : Cafe SETI : whAt Is nEEded @ tHe SETI Cafe . . . (Message 693451)
Posted 21 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Snip....

And a tad bit of respect for each other is even more important, don'tcha think?


Respect is something earnt.

Faith is something given.

Perhaps faith and respect go hand in hand.


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... it's mine ...
2548) Message boards : Cafe SETI : whAt Is nEEded @ tHe SETI Cafe . . . (Message 693444)
Posted 21 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:





"We The People"

3 words that are probably more important than the constitution itself.

Faith in each other is even more valuable..





... ... trying to change...


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2549) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 693052)
Posted 20 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
You two really are a match made in heaven.


Well done.


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2550) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 693006)
Posted 20 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...
You've repeatedly called for the socialization of society for the benefit of your 'fellow man'. ?

Is that correct?


(I don't really understand what that means to you... but anyway...)

No. You missed my point completely.

Sorry.



It's like this:

'Scratchy Capitalist' and 'Jeffrey Ants In His Pants' love fighting.

So much so that the religious thread has become a battle between who can put each other down best.


If I wanted to post something to the religious thread I couldn't without fear of either getting a 'scripture' type response or an 'anti-scripture' type response..


That's all.



PS: If you two can't afford a room I'm sure we can find you a spare tent to share :o)~
2551) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 692941)
Posted 20 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Sure!

But let me ask you if you mean to state that only handing out blankets to homeless people is what you classify as something positive?


No it's not the only way but it is one positive thing that can make a difference to someone else (and in the grand scheme of things to ourselves also.)

There are millions of other ways to be positive too.


2552) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 692899)
Posted 19 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Oh come on: 'who's dust is thicker'???... pleeaasse...

You boys really need to get a double room!

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Just as an aside point will anyone be doing something positive for others this Xmas?

Anyone going to go out and serve food on a table in their city centre? Give out clothes? Donate some time or effort to others?


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2553) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 692388)
Posted 17 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
To try and score arguement points using the death of a baby in a bombing is truely the sadest thing I have seen you do SC.

I'm so sorry :o(

Just let it be.


I am not religious but I would have liked to have posted more in this thread.

Even if I do not believe in a religion I do feel life is something so profound and spiritual that every oppourtunity to learn and grow is valuable.


I just wish people who are more able to make this thread something special would come back and join in.
2554) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 692190)
Posted 17 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
A question rarely asked these days is: "How has 'religion' and 'spirituality' enriched our everyday lives?"


God gave us a perfect ethical system... The farther we get from that, the worse our ethics become... ;)


With the greatest of respect Jeffrey that is a statement of your belief.

But how does your answer express how religion or spirituality has enriched 'our' lives?


(Methinks you're asking this question a few hundred years too late. The damage has already been done.)


Well a few hundred years ago I'd of probably died from some horrid ailement or from poverty before having the chance to know enough to ask such questions.

In fact I'd of probably been flogged or killed for even presuming to ask such questions either 'religious' or 'scientific'.


I don't think I'm too late asking the question. Now is my only time!


Nor do I think any "damage has already been done" - Can 'truth' really be damaged?


I wasn't asking for a godly or scientific answer.

I just wondered if people could look into their cultures or lives and find things of value that religion has given them without the need to quote anything much....

Nothing more...


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2555) Message boards : Cafe SETI : whAt Is nEEded @ tHe SETI Cafe . . . (Message 692183)
Posted 17 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Sniped image...

"Responsibility does not only lie with the leaders of our countries or with those who have been appointed or elected to do a particular job. It lies with each of us individually.

Peace, for example, starts within each one of us.
When we have inner peace, we can be at peace with those around us."

~ HH the Dalai Lama ~



I'm going to be a bit kookie here.

The "Dalai Lama" ran from his country when the Chinese appointed 'leaders' took over his lands. He ran even though thousands of his people and monks suffered and died.

It seems responsibility never laid with the "Dalai Lama".

He ran away from the consequences of his position.

The only people who faced 'responsibility' in Tibet were those who stayed and stood up and said they believed in their cultural, religious, personal or political values.


However the 'Dalai Lama' is right: 'Responsibility for our world belongs to us' - But if we wish to create or become our own leaders and depose those who should not be there can we do that?


I guess I'm not saying much..

I guess I'm saying that it would be nice to be in a forum where members and leaders both understood what the Dalia Lama in his safety meant.

Though for me I will always expect those with power to search deeper.


More than this I think that a message of 'love' is good but as neither members nor leaders (mods', admins et-al) seem that perfect I wonder if there is a more practical / realistic message the Dalai Lama might give?



Sorry :o( eek!

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2556) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 692169)
Posted 17 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
A question rarely asked these days is:

    "How has 'religion' and 'spirituality' enriched our everyday lives?"


(... and no I'm not inviting quotes from the bible or other tracts... nor non-religious quotes or tracts..)


For the most part our written and discovered history has told us religious or spiritual values have influenced our cultures for 99% of human history to one level or another.

It's only in the past few hundred years that we have developed cultures in the 'Western World' that have seperated themselves from 'religious / spiritual' ways of dealing with the world.


I've seen lots of arguements against religion but it would be nice to see what positive legacies religion has given us and how it has made us better!


I mean after thousands of years of religion it must have left us a core legacy even in our popular and scientific thought or direction.


We must have gained something of value?

As people?

2557) Message boards : Cafe SETI : whAt Is nEEded @ tHe SETI Cafe . . . (Message 691265)
Posted 14 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Such a nice image Dr. C.E.T.I. Thankyou.



...



We are so lucky.

The best thing about us is that we can create and realise beauty.

We don't always do it though.

But when we do we become the most unique creatures in the universe.



Black Sabbath - Planet Caravan:

We sail through endless skies
Stars shine like eyes
The black night sighs
The moon in silver trees
Falls down in tears
Light of the night
The earth, a purple blaze
Of sapphire haze
In orbit always

While down below the trees
Bathed in cool breeze
Silver starlight breaks down the night
And so we pass on by the crimson eye
Of great God mars
As we travel the universe




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2558) Message boards : Cafe SETI : whAt Is nEEded @ tHe SETI Cafe . . . (Message 689976)
Posted 9 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
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You have kept this thread so well 'Dr. C.E.T.I.'


Here is a verse I like:


Kahlil Gibran.

(Speaking about pleasure.)

... And now you ask in your heart,
"How shall we distinguish that which is good in pleasure
From that which is not good?"

Go to your fields and your gardens,
And you shall learn that it is the pleasure of the bee to gather honey of the flower,
But it is also the pleasure of the flower to yield it's honey to the bee.

For to the bee a flower is a fountain of life,
And to the flower a bee is a messenger of love,
And to both, bee and flower,
The giving and the receiving of pleasure is a need and an ecstasy.

...

Be in your pleasures like the flowers and the bees.



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2559) Message boards : Politics : Importance of the forums to SETI@home funding. (Message 689752)
Posted 8 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


I don't want to give simply because I was named and shamed in this forum for not giving that extra "6.8 cents per day"... :o(

What a way to fundraise is this :o(


Crunchy.....
You don't have to be so dang negative all the time.

SNIP...


You know full well that I am not negative all the time.

It was just a response to a direct question (or challenge) to me.


Sorry if I write things in an emotive way at times.


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2560) Message boards : Politics : Importance of the forums to SETI@home funding. (Message 689749)
Posted 8 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.....SNIP...

However......in addition to your commitment and expenses of $300.00 per year you cannot make one $25.00 donation per year to keep the project going? By your own figures you are spending .82 cents per day for Seti. You cannot afford an additional 6.8 cents per day to help insure that Seti will continue as a viable project?

SNIP...


@Geek@Play,

That's a very personalised expectation for me to donate.

My post was about being fair. It was about the fact that people already donate resources that have a real world value for them.

I was suggesting that 'cash' wasn't the only true ecconomic value of SETI members.

My post wasn't an invitation for someone to target me as a fundraising oppourtunity or potentially represent me as a bad person for not donating cash.

Should I feel guilty because as you ask: "You cannot afford an additional 6.8 cents per day to help insure that Seti will continue as a viable project?"


If the project doesn't keep going will I be to blame for not donating $25 as you suggest?

Is there an expectation that people who use the forums should donate more?

Each year I give away my spare cash to people based charities.

Will I look bad in certain peoples eyes here if I choose to give my spare cash this Christmas to one of my city's local projects that provides food and shelter for homeless people ('Crisis At Christmas') rather than SETI?

Is SETI important and should we support it in the best way that each of can afford. Yes.

Is it important enough for me to donate to during Christmas when there are so many people or social projects in need. Absolutely not.



...Snip...
If there were no financial donations from us, in all probablility, Seti would not exist.

Thank you, Geek@Play. This is what many people seem to forget.


@Fuzzy

I know it is important for you to raise funds but just because people don't donate it does not mean that we have 'forgotten' that SETI needs finances to run.


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I do my best with the resources (cash or otherwise) I have.

If I spend $300 or so on computing and electricity for SETI and $1000 on people charities each year I think SETI has gained an absolute bargain.


I don't want to be made to feel guilty because I don't have any more to give SETI.

I don't want to give simply because I was named and shamed in this forum for not giving that extra "6.8 cents per day"... :o(



What a way to fundraise is this :o(
2561) Message boards : Cafe SETI : In Support Of The Members... Old And New (Message 689602)
Posted 8 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
In Support Of The Members... Old, New or Missing...


Members Make SETI Rock!


Do they?




(Please no discussion of direct moderation actions... or about kitty cats ;o)~

... However celebrations of being varied, human, fantastic, giving, amazing, crunching like mad and / or just being plainly and superbly dynamic would be nice :o)


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2562) Message boards : Cafe SETI : In Support Of The Members... Old And New (Message 689463)
Posted 8 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
In Support Of The Members... Old And New...




Members Are Strange?


Are they?




(Please no discussion of direct moderation actions...

... However celebrations of being varied, human, fantastic, giving, amazing, crunching like mad and / or just being plainly and superbly imperfect would be nice :o)



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2563) Message boards : Cafe SETI : To Be Ageless (Message 689165)
Posted 6 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
..snipy...

i've seen old people i don't want to be one of them !!!



I don't want to age either but since I have no choice I think it would be fun to grow older disgracefully :o)


2564) Message boards : Cafe SETI : To Be Ageless (Message 689084)
Posted 6 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The "Young At Heart Choir" (Young@Heart):

Fix You - Coldplay.

I Will Survive.

Staying Alive.

I Wanna Be Sedated - Ramones.

Schizophrenia - Sonic Youth.

Forever Young (Tribute.)



Is growing older a bad thing?


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2565) Message boards : Politics : Importance of the forums to SETI@home funding. (Message 688967)
Posted 5 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... all SETI would need to do to get it's average per capita donation would be to have a "problem running the software" forum...


Excellent idea !


That's actually half of my paragraph (Msg: 688944) and not at all what I meant ;o)

However let's assume for a moment that it 'might be' an 'excellent idea' and SETI just had one forum that simply dealt with technical questions running SETI@BOINC software...

Would the current system of members joining teams still work without a central forum for people to meet in?

If we got rid of the 'cafe' because some people thought it useless ecconomically wouldn't the whole system and idea of "SETI Teams" also collapse?



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2566) Message boards : Politics : Importance of the forums to SETI@home funding. (Message 688944)
Posted 5 Dec 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Here's a different look at the question:

(Please don't shout me down - I value these forums so for me it's natural to respond...)



I feel ecconomic quantification of crunchers who post or not is an odd way of looking at people who volunteer!


In a sense your findings suggest that if SETI wanted to spare itself effort in dealing with the social and educational forums it would by 'first glance' of your statistics be no worse off by closing them down.

In fact by that arguement all SETI would need to do to get it's average per capita donation would be to have a "problem running the software" forum...


I am one of your statistical units. I have never donated cash to SETI.

Since I started crunching though I have donated something that does have an absolute finacial value to me.

I run my PC 99% of the year 24/7. This has meant I've had to replace my systems far far earlier than I would have had to normally.

I've had to buy new power supplies when they died. Replace worn fans, drives, CPUs. Replace blown memory.... ect.. ect...

My electricity is not free either.

Personally I don't know how to quantify that. Maybe $300 per year?...


It may not be obvious to those who like to see cash income but what would SETI do if it did not have access to our computers?

It would no doubt have to buy time on corporate systems at great expense.


Now lets revisit the question: "Importance of the forums to SETI@home funding."...

If over the next 10 years 100 people did not stay with SETI because there was no forum SETI would have to fundraise $30,000 ($300 x 100: Example) in computing resources from elsewhere.

Not a large amount but then as it seems no real statistical research has been done it might be 10 times that amount... Who knows?


.. and what about advertising. Do the forums save time / money by being self selling in terms of bringing in or inviting new people?

What would be the cost time value on advertising?


What about education. Will SETI keep relying on the educated sector of society to crunch or would it like the idea and ideals of the project to filter outwards.

It may be a slow process but I assume even the cafe and political forums help propogate a better understanding of SETI in-amongst the community at large.



I think the "Importance of the forums to SETI@home funding" is higher than is being quantified here.


I always hoped that scientific endevour had something more qualitative about it.


I hope that your set of statistics aren't just another way to construe or say how cumbersome and useless some think these forums are for SETI to carry.. :o(


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2567) Message boards : Politics : Free Speech...the concept (Message 686419)
Posted 29 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP....

I would like to get open input about the concept of free speech as different people see it, the laws that protect it, and the circumstances where it is defined including exceptions, especially as it pertains to human interaction.

Play nice...


Can I start :o)

I don't believe in "free" speech.

My ability to speak freely cost a great deal to all those people who went before me and made my freedom of expression possible.

Today I only have the freedom to speak my mind because there are many even now who value, protect and build upon the gift we have been given.

I don't believe in "free" speech because to be able to speak freely is such a 'priceless' thing..



Probably not quite what you meant DB - but it was a thought :o)~


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2568) Message boards : Politics : Why Astro got banished and other issues on moderation policy. (Message 686391)
Posted 29 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Sorry to butt in, you are doing very well...

Hey! I'm not doing the hackings. There's various many other fingers behind the scenes.

I'm just a noisy observer!

Just to clarify:

That is just a statement that the developers are very quickly updating the Boinc forums infrastructure due to the various requests and comments from the participants.

I'm not involved with that other than as an outside participant of Boinc and the forums.

And I'm sure Berkeley know their stuff about security. Note how they do not run Windows on any of their servers! ( :-p )

(NB for completeness: There's likely other significant reasons such as running (GPL?) Open Source software for various reasons.)


Regards,
Martin


Though this discussion probably belongs to it's own thread somewhere I've seen several people who have been worried about the hacker-bility of their PCs when using BOINC (SETI.. whatever) software on their computers.

Just for fun I'd be quite happy for someone (not connected to Berkeley) to try and hack my PC just to prove once and for all that you are more likely to become an astonaught than get hacked because of using BOINC/SETI.



It's a challenge!

Any member with the skills to hack can PM me for my IP and we'll start a new thread and we can report the outcome....


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2569) Message boards : Politics : Why Astro got banished and other issues on moderation policy. (Message 686238)
Posted 29 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I will redirect you to my 'kitties speak again' thread in the Cafe.
But please do not misbehave there, or my effort is all for naught.


Why create a new thread for discussions already on going?

As a simple member I would be reprimanded for doing the same by moderators like yourself.

I am sure it might be cool for cats but perhaps you are just being naughty... like your kitties no doubt..




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2570) Message boards : Cafe SETI : whAt Is nEEded @ tHe SETI Cafe . . . (Message 686164)
Posted 29 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Group Hug



It's yummy to hug :o)


"I would hug but I got no arms"...

but we can hug for everyone :o)



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2571) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ye Olde Tea Rooms (Message 686137)
Posted 29 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Look at the dust in here. You go away for a few weeks, cobwebs everywhere.


Without your firm grip Mrs Miggins we soon become a scruffy bunch.


Mrs Miggins would it be impertinent of me to ask what you keep hidden under that fulsome pretty mop hat?



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2572) Message boards : Politics : Why Astro got banished and other issues on moderation policy. (Message 686111)
Posted 29 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
These were my meanderings but I took so long to type them up another 10 posts were added...

Anyway here they are;


SNIP...
I have read your response and I will not quote any of it (so that this message doesn't get deleted too for quoting deleted posts) so that you can read what I have to say.


That is so cool! I wish I had thought of this prior to having some of my post deleted because I had quoted a post later deleted...

Trust a moderator to come up with a way around the rule!!! Can we all use this ploy :o)


SNIP...
... The problem comes from the fact that people just don't like to be corrected,...


Or on balance they may not like being told they are wrong when they are not.


and if the general consensus is to complain loudly, that is what everyone will start doing. It has been my impression that most of the trouble makers on this board have made it acceptable to complain about the moderating, which gives new people the impression that it's perfectly acceptable to do publicly.


Or on balance not every one follows the general consensus and not all 'newbies' are so ignorant.



All that energy expended because of an internet forum? Think about it. It's just a forum. A great place to hang out.


"Just a forum" is perhaps 'just your view.' Though why would people join in if it was something not of value.


If you're moded, think about it and think about playing within the rules. If that's too hard or you simply don't like the rules, why not consider simply leaving?


I hear you: 'If folk don't like the rules they should go away'...

Mmmm... That would be kind of easy for moderators as the only people that would be left on the forums would be those who were exactly like the moderators..


I know if I don't like something, I'm not going to fight that hard for it unless I rank it high on my important list of things in my life. I don't rank internet forums high on my important list of things in my life. I place things such as my job, my g/f, my hobbies all above conversing with faceless entities. That doesn't mean I don't enjoy it, rather I have more important things to do than to always be "fighting the system".


Priorities.

Personally I don't see the SETI forums as part of the system...

When the forums work well they are superb when they don't it's a real pain...

The same happens in families, work, communities and life in general.


But none of this has given any good reason why moderating should be peer based upon everyone's opinions. I think the one thing these forums make clear is that everyone has a slightly different opinion on things. Having that many different opinions all having a hand (or "say") in moderating via some peer based system would make things a nightmare to actually moderate a board. You may as well not have any moderators at all (which I believe is what some want here). Then you would have total anarchy and no one to keep things under control.


I'm one of those that believe and want moderation but there are many ideas about what makes good moderation across thousands of forums upon the net.

On the otherside though there are some 50,000+ UseNet (newsgroups) groups that are mostly unmoderated and most have survived for near a quarter of century.

Personally I prefer the form of forum that actively develops (and supports) a strong core group of regular members and where moderators act as a guideline.

Though I do think sometimes we need to define absolute boundaries.


In theory, a group of intelligent people always feel that they can police themselves and thus don't need such entities and want to get along on their own. In reality, people tend to form cliques and groups and wars always happen. People will find things to complain about if there's not enough drama in their life. They will create issues and ostracize others they dislike for petty reasons (this is for everyone, not any one specific group on these boards or any board for that matter).


On balance whilst I suspect you are aiming this comment at "members" of this forum the same statement could also be applied to moderators or administrators as they are "intelligent people" also I assume?

As the moderators and admins have far greater chance to 'consolidate' their opinions relative to this forum they are most likely to form the strongest "cliques" as you say...

Lets not play the 'paternal moderator' game... We are all people here and there is no reason to assume moderators are any better at being logical than any member.

In fact given statistical likelihood there will be far more members who are better qualified educationally, socially, psychologically or in life skills than their moderator counter-parts...


Fact is, people will find reasons to dislike each other for any reason, be they political, personal, professional, religious or whatever. Personal bias creates a need for moderators to keep things calm and civil.


As I said moderators could also be doing this very same thing.


Who protects them from the Mods? Well, first one must ask themselves if they are truly being persecuted by the mods and not just interjecting their own feelings into the situation (which we are all guilty of doing, myself included). If they still feel that way, then have their options of pushing to the top or removing themselves and finding something else to satisfy their time.

Bottom line is, why spend so much time fighting something you dislike when there's so much else out there in life to be happy about? Sure, we all like to talk to one another on these forums, but just because we can put a value on something that we like, doesn't mean we should put a value on things that do not deserve a value (like Cobblestones) when they are meant for fun (as with Cobblestones and these forums).


Everyone is different. Why someone should wish to put their effort into being a member of this forum is not for me to say. I'm just glad that people do.

Maybe some people just believe in the 'concept' of SETI but aren't into the science... Maybe they love the concept so just want be amongst a 'community' of others who like the idea...

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I will say this if ASTRO got banished for being a fool that's his tough luck. I can't see why anyone would want to create new accounts to annoy others.

If Eric is the only member of staff that thinks the forums are of any real value then personally I think Eric is the only person with vision.


Think about this:

I might donate my computer time via BOINC to SETI@Home because I believe in the idea of the project but I don't need to know anything about the science.

99% of the planet are not interested in the science of the stars but many are interested in 'what is out there'... For the many having a chance to chat with others of a similar frame is sort of payment for running our PCs as crunching volunteers.


(I do wonder sometimes whether the SETI@Home project would prefer to have less crunchers than it has at the moment?)


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2573) Message boards : Politics : Big Brother part 2 (Message 683603)
Posted 24 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...
Evolutionist actually believe we evolved from a type of 'primordial snot'...
... and we are not "apes" - we are "SETI forum members"...
... Snip...


The term is primordial ooze and it's believed that ALL life evolved from that slime. ...


"Ooooze" - That's just a posh person's word for 'snot' ain't it? ;o)



... Fast forward several hundred million years and you have a series of primates, one of which evolved into homosapiens.


Yes and just after that we have Neanderthals and Homospaiens intermingling in Europa. (Having "nookie" in Romanian caves.. Yucky..)



I'm not sure which is worse:

. 'Evolving from ooozing snot' or 'having a hairy Neanderthal for an ancestor???'



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2574) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Elimination Of Violence Against Women Day. 25th Nov. (Message 683559)
Posted 24 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Google News: 'Elimination Of Violence Against Women Day.'






YouTube: Celtic Woman - The Butterfly.



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2575) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 683494)
Posted 24 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Here's an odd question:


What if someone died, reached the gates of heaven and was asked to come in but refused?

What if God thought they were worthy of heaven but they elected not to enter?


Does a 'good' person have no other choice but to go to heaven when they die?


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2576) Message boards : Politics : Big Brother part 2 (Message 683458)
Posted 24 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Oh my God. I agree with BrainSmashR AND Robert on this one.

I have to go kill myself now.



Don't kill yourself yet as I think they are both wrong...


Evolutionist actually believe we evolved from a type of 'primordial snot'...

... and we are not "apes" - we are "SETI forum members"...


Actually thinking about it have we evolved at all?

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2577) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Elimination Of Violence Against Women Day. 25th Nov. (Message 683414)
Posted 24 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Elimination Of Violence Against Women Day.
(25th November.)

I Remember The Butterflies.





If you would like to support or celebrate our sisters add a butterfly picture to this thread..



History:

The Mirabal Sisters:

"The three sisters, Patria, Minerva, and Maria Teresa were born to Enrique Mirabal and Maria Mercedes Reyes (Chea) in 1924, 1927 and 1935 respectively in the Cibas region of the Dominican Republic. All three were educated in the Dominican Republic, Minerva and Maria Teresa going on to achieve university degrees.

All three sisters and their husbands became involved in activities against the Trujillo regime. The Mirabal sisters were political activists and highly visible symbols of resistance to Trujillo’s dictatorship. As a result, the sisters and their families were constantly persecuted for their outspoken as well as clandestine activities against the State. Over the course of their political activity, the women and their husbands were repeatedly imprisoned at different stages. Minerva herself was imprisoned on four occasions. Despite Trujillo’s persecution, the sisters still continued to actively participate in political activities against the leadership. In January 1960, Patria took charge of a meeting that eventually established the Clandestine Movement of 14 June 1960 of which all the sisters participated. When this plot against the tyranny failed, the sisters and their comrades in the Clandestine Resistance Movement were persecuted throughout the country.

In early November 1960, Trujillo declared that his two problems were the Church and the Mirabal sisters. On 25 November 1960, the sisters were assassinated in an "accident" as they were being driven to visit their husbands who were in prison. The accident caused much public outcry, and shocked and enraged the nation. The brutal assassination of the Mirabal sisters was one of the events that helped propel the anti-Trujillo movement, and within a year, the Trujillo dictatorship came to an end.

The sisters, referred to as the "Inolvidables Mariposas", the "Unforgettable Butterflies" have become a symbol against victimization of women. They have become the symbol of both popular and feminist resistance. They have been commemorated in poems, songs and books. Their execution inspired a fictional account "In the Time of the Butterflies" on the young lives of the sisters written by Julia Alvarez. It describes their suffering and martyrdom in the last days of the Trujillo dictatorship. The memory of the Mirabal sisters and their struggle for freedom and respect for human rights for all has transformed them into symbols of dignity and inspiration. They are symbols against prejudice and stereotypes, and their lives raised the spirits of all those they encountered and later, after their death, not only those in the Dominican Republic but others around the world."


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2578) Message boards : Politics : Big Brother part 2 (Message 683296)
Posted 23 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP....


Actually the greater likelihood is that you are of mixed heritage and can't fathom the concept that you are abnormal rather than normal. According to MSNBC and Stanford, in 2005 only 7% of all marriages in the US were interracial...as we travel BACK through time, that number decreases significantly. In fact, prior to 1967, Loving vs. Virginia, it was still illegal in 15 states.



7% of a people who are already mixed race and mixed heritage tells me nothing.

As I said earlier:


Personally I don't have to care about my race as I am British.

Even though you can still see regional differences we are a hybrid of aborigional peoples, angles, saxons, gals, celts, picts, romans, normans and even ancient africans and ancient asians... et al..

The English language even includes Arabic and Hindus words.


I am definately of mixed heritage and race just like you BrainSmashR.

Since the whole of the human species is intermingled throught-out history the only abnormality is to deny ones own vast, mixed race and often unknown heritages.

As you are from the USA it is quite likely that at some point you share genetic heritage that joins my European heritage...

We are practically brothers BrainSmashR ;o)

Could you imagine our family reunion :o))


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2579) Message boards : Politics : Rising oil prices and people's livelihoods (Message 683288)
Posted 23 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
How will it affect me? It won't. We drive very little as is, unless we have to make a trip over to Sacramento California or up to Portland Oregon. Other than that, its not a big deal for me.

SNIP...


Oh yes it will..

Think of a loaf of bread. To produce it costs less than 10p (in my UK Currency.. 20c in the US?)

I buy that loaf of bread at the shop for 100p (£1).

Ignoring profit and tax there are a whole host of oil reliant systems inbetween.

Fuel to create the tools, grind the wheat, cook the bread, make the packaging, transport to the shop, light the shop, cool the fridges, advertise.... blah, blah...


I guess it depends on peoples income levels but changes in oil prices have an effect on us all at some level.


Doesn't Canada have massive reserves of oil?

When will we be invading Canada?


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2580) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Any poets in the house? (Message 683235)
Posted 23 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
A friend of mine has sent me this, which is apparently a famous poem from the second world war. I can see its about bits of guns but I can't see what the trees have to do with it?

NAMING OF PARTS

by Henry Reed

SNIP....



Here's a mundane explaination of the poem:

'Which in our case we have not got.'

I'm wondering if 'branches' has something to do with the "piling of arms"..

With stacking them?
2581) Message boards : Politics : Big Brother part 2 (Message 683072)
Posted 23 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP MY STUFF..

Snip...

Now if YOU'RE so interested in my family history, you can view my family tree on my website, parts of which date back to 1640...but then why should you when it's so much easier to attack others instead of accepting the fact that your opinion is in the minority in this country.



I am always interested in peoples heritage... and more than that I am interested in the myths and beliefs people hold around their own heritages.

Most of us (certainly true of those with European ancestory) can map our 'family tree/ names' back to the 1600s but that often does not show racial heritage.

I did look at your website. I couldn't see your 'family "tree"' - but just a connected set of names.

One of the big problems with family trees though is that so many family's up until 30 years ago tended to hide their mixed race heritages.

Truth is that there is a high likelyhood that you BrainSmashR have mixed marriage in your heritage but don't even realise it.

You may find with a definitive DNA Heriateg test that you actually owe your very existence to an interracial relationship...

From your perspective wouldn't that be really cool to find out?

I'd be interested to see the results :o)

Personally I doubt 'Big Brother' or Capitalists really care what race we are from as long as they can control us and make profit from us.



PS:

The word "Liberal" is derived from the Latin word "liber" and means "free"..

Which makes calling someone a "Liberal" a commendation rather than an insult...

Unless of course we buy into the whole current party political value system... Which by and large wants us to hate free people and for us to love "Big Brother"...

What a game we play :o(



Back to SETI crunching:

I wonder what would happen if we did find that signal out there and were able to invite "aliens" to out planet.

What if a whole bunch of them 'aliens' turned up and wanted to settle down and some wanted to marry some 'Earthlings'..

Would we stop being bothered by interracial marriages and start worrying about interstella procreation??

Just a thought!



Closer to home:

I'm a 'big brother' to two of my younger sisters.

One of them married a guy from a different ethnic background.

Her husband is a fine and loving man.

They both created a family that is law abiding, tax paying and cohesive.

Their two boys are healthy, strong and intelligent.


What more than that could a 'big brother' ever want?


2582) Message boards : Politics : Big Brother part 2 (Message 681940)
Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP

Morals are socially accepted standards of a given society, and like gay marriage, interracial relationships are also frowned upon by the vast majority regardless of your slanted and admittedly "dim" opinion on the matter.


BrainSmashr,

It would be interesting to know what you actually meant by "interracial"?

Do you mean Black and White?.. or perhaps Neaderthol and Homosapien?.. maybe Scotish and Chinese?.. or perhaps European and Mediterranean?

Have you ever had your own genetic heritage (DNA) maped?

Am I right in thinking it only costs $200 or so to compare your DNA to the global Genome?

That sounds rather cheap for anyone who is concerned with race.


Personally I don't have to care about my race as I am British.

Even though you can still see regional differences we are a hybrid of aborigional peoples, angles, saxons, gals, celts, picts, romans, normans and even ancient africans and ancient asians... et al..

The English language even includes Arabic and Hindus words.


I am sure some in the UK would frown on "mixed marriages" but very few of them actually know (or want to know) their own mixed past.



Just $200 to prove if you are pure race...

I'm suprised very few, if any, people who go on about race actually check out their own backgrounds...

... but then why should they when it is so much easier and cheaper just to attack others...





2583) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Becoming a father... (Message 681516)
Posted 20 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Hello all, new user from Tasmania.

So I got the surprise of my life and now have about 6 months left before I have to finish growing up lol.



Hey.

How fantastic is it that 'you' and 'madam big tummy' are creating this new life?

Very!

Such a lovely thing!


I don't think you ever need to stop growing up.

You'll just change direction a little and spread out and grow more broader.



Keep us updated as to how things are going.


2584) Message boards : Politics : Big Brother part 2 (Message 681445)
Posted 20 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...

... I'm sure the Taliban would love to have your support someplace other than the internet.




That is such a horrid accusation to make about another on this forum.


I have never seen anything from the person you are argueing against (post: 681309) that suggests they are remotely like the "Taliban"...

... and given the immense social and political anger against the Taliban I think it unfair and endangering to them to publically suggest they are so.


As to 'Big Brother': I think it makes the point...

"Some are all too ready to use the power of the status quo to put other people down simply because they differ..."


I don't mind looking like a fool here:

I am tired of watching people shout others down and accuse them of being like terrorists (Taliban etc...) just because they don't agree..

Not everyone that disagrees with us is against us...

(Isn't debate and difference the life of democracy after all!)


(PS: Do you know how many people get physically attacked because of such loose mouthed accusations? A Lot.)



(PPS: To any moderator - please delete this post if the post it refers to (681415) is deleted.)
2585) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Pennies For Christmas. (Message 679233)
Posted 17 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
It might seem early but it's only just over a month away.

Each year I throw my pennies in a tin and at the end of the year (just after xmas) give them to a local project.

I was wondering if people in the SETI Cafe would like to collect their pennies together and do something nice for a social project this Christmas or at the end of the year.?

Personally I don't want to give to a 'major' or 'well known' charity or project as I can do that any other day...

I think it might be nice to 'adopt' a project for Xmas or give a specific item or resource.

It might be nice if it was not in the UK or USA either.

(We can work out how we might collect money later.. <EG: Paypal...>.)

Does anyone have any ideas or know of a project or community that would benefit from a gift?


Is this a good or bad idea?



2586) Message boards : Cafe SETI : whAt Is nEEded @ tHe SETI Cafe . . . (Message 679208)
Posted 17 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

. . . here comes the Sun...
....and, here's the flowering plant...


Lovely splashes of light and colour.

I'm loving the mornings here in the UK at the moment. Clear skys and frost.

The grass looks like glass and as if it might shatter if you stepped upon it.

There is something nice about autumn light.

Sitting in a cafe' in autumn is just grand.

//

One other thing I think would be very nice in this SETI Cafe is for some of the old posters to come back and create a little mayhem.

I'd also like to see a few of those who never post outside of the enormous 'last person to post' type threads creating a post of their own.

2587) Message boards : Cafe SETI : whAt Is nEEded @ tHe SETI Cafe . . . (Message 679194)
Posted 17 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

whAt Is nEEded @ tHe SETI Cafe . . .
...SNIP


For me the only thing the 'Cafe' needs is you... and everyone.

Even those people we disagree with are needed as we are nobody without somebody.

Mind you I'd like to see more women and people from a range of countries outside the typical.

We haven't had a good moderator bashing for a while! Either they are doing good or we members have all become 'goodie two shoes' posters...


I think it might be nice if we had a few plants around the place.

and a bit of sunshine.

2588) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Protest Songs (Message 679149)
Posted 17 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Matthew,

The Hollies - He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother.

That's probably one of the nicest songs anyone could share.

Special.




2589) Message boards : Politics : Big Brother part 2 (Message 678675)
Posted 16 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
See sig... 'nuff said... ;)


SIG: It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .


OK I'm going to be very naughty...


1984 was 23 years ago.

Orwell actually called the book "1948" but his publisher objected because Orwell's vision of the future was too close to the present (then..)

The original and now sub-title of the book was "Last Man In Europe".


"Big Brother" in the book actually has little to do with government cameras or technology..

It's all to do with a process in which we delude ourselves to believe we should self report to the powers that be.... sometimes without even realising it.

More than that it's about how we even fear, report and control each other.


In the book 1984 "Victory Cafe" was the cool place for radicles to be... but in the end we realised it was just a place for those radicles who were caught and processed by the state.


If Orwell was alive today he might even argue that his book (1984) was a little like "Victory Cafe" in that it allows people to exist and argue without ever engaging the world outside.


No disrespect meant Ant.... but I just think if we want to talk about "Big Brother" then how do we know whether even what we talk about isn't also controlled by him...


Unless of course Big Brother only affects 'others'...


That was Winston's thought too until he was siping warm Victory Gin flavoured with cloves on the other side of the window in the cafe.. ('Victory Cafe' that is. :o))


1948 and 59 years later... If quality of life and longevity mean anything then 59 years of Orwells 'Big Brother' has actually done millions upon millions in Western societies quite well.

Was that what your 'Sig meant when he predicted the future?


59 years of ecconomic development and social freedoms :o)


Sorry...


I'm being naughty.








2590) Message boards : Politics : Big Brother part 2 (Message 678607)
Posted 16 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
This is from the front page of today's UK Daily Mail

Travellers face price hikes and confusion after the Government unveiled plans to take up to 53 pieces of information from anyone entering or leaving Britain. ...." SNIP....


Comments anyone?



Well I kind of feel slightly relieved as this story has been doing the rounds in the newspapers for a couple of days.

Only yesterday 'The Telegraph' said we were to "be forced to hand over more than 90 pieces of personal information".....


Today only 53! .. Next week no doubt we will be back down to normality and just require a passport and a face that doesn't look alien..


I know the sentiment of the news articles but most of this arguement at the moment is about the next election...


I think our UK newspapers ought to be ashamed of themselves.

Isn't it enough for our politicians to try and score hate and fear points from us without having journalists jump in on the act...


However. Even 5 of these crude restrictions would damage us.

If those in power (and I'm not just talking about politicians) wish to watch the vitality of our societies die and see us implode then of course they should impose every fearful barrier to life.


In a perverse way those who are threatening or creating restrictions may actually be aiding those few who want to harm us.


It's strange. I can't remember this level of fear mongering when my city (and country) was threatened and bombed by the IRA.




2591) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Posting and YOU... (Message 678445)
Posted 15 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

w4+ch 0u+!!!

Methinks we need a cryptologist for the cryptographer... ;)



You mean someone that studies or makes pictures of 'ancient graves?



(Sorry - a bit crypt'ic but couldn't resist :o))
2592) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Photogs of New Yotk (Message 678302)
Posted 15 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I believe this might have originated in the post 9-11 days when a news report circulated about certain individuals that had been spotted walking the streets taking numerous photos of specific structures. ..... SNIP ...



Can you imagine if legislation like this had been in act on 9/11 itself?

I know many of the personal and public photo's and videos taken on that day were traumatic...

... but if individuals and public had felt so scared to have carried cameras we (who were not there) would not have seen anything but a clinical or mass media view.


There is already a fear driven (non-legal) prohibition on cameras here in the UK in schools.

In the UK as a parent you can face problems if you take a photo of "YOUR CHILD" on stage in a play they are performing in....


There is a fear of some strangers who might be pedophiles taking pictures of a school play..

(Odd really as 90 or so % of child abuse is not performed by strangers.)


End product is that everyone is prohibited from capturing their children's life moments.


Personally I wonder if we are simply being sucked dry of the joy of life by those who think they will benefit from us living fearfull lives.


There are billions of photos taken around the world every year that mark joyous or important moments in people's and family's lives and bring happiness or meaning to everyone that see or share the pictures.


In New York however if such a 'by-law' or prohibition was passed then in reality the only people I would feel ashamed of are "New Yorkers" themselves...

They really need to decide whether they want their streets and public places to be places to celebrate life or live in fear.

Maybe they should start taking photo's of each other by whatever means they have, print them up and start littering their streets with images of life...




2593) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Help the worlds' hungry. (Message 676114)
Posted 11 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The best wat to curb world hunger is to reduce the denominator. Convince the hungry (and maybe some others not so hungry) to reduce the fertilization rate and delay the onset of fertilization. This my be difficult but there are many population reduction charities.



You know over the past 50+ years in Westernised societies the age of puberty, fertility and pubic development (IE: pubic hair growth) has actually reduced.

Basically both boys and girls in the West are now capable of reproducing two years earlier than they were 50 or so years ago..

Go figure that!

We reduce our population rate only for nature to increase the oppourtunity for us to be able to procreate.

Odd hey!.


Almost as odd as the fact that after every major war where the death-rate of men was high the birth-rate of males increased.


If you think people are always in control you are mad!

2594) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Help the worlds' hungry. (Message 676111)
Posted 11 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
....
I'm not really into supporting those who refuse to support themselves or breed beyond their capabilities
....


Who are the over breeders and those who refuse to support themselves you are talking about?

Maybe if you actually identified the people you are groaning on about it would make sense.

....
... but I can certainly condone withholding food based on the intelligence of others :)
....


You must be starving BrainScratcher :o)~


You're not talking about us British again are you?

2595) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Veterans Day - Nov. 11 (Message 676060)
Posted 11 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Remember...

Vietnam Women's Memorial



Dominique,

That is so right.

Not just in Vietnam but in every struggle in every part of the world.



2596) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Veterans Day - Nov. 11 (Message 675958)
Posted 11 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
We owe a great deal to each and every one of them.

<--- 'cept for this one... ;)


Jeffrey.

It's not just those in the 'services' we owe a great deal to.

Anyone that has or still struggles against adversity to make our world better deserves the same respect and value.

2597) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Animation software (Message 675950)
Posted 11 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


Another free piece of software for 3D design is Anim8or.


It's very basic level 3D animation but is extremely well coded. (It's just one file of 1.8MB and will run anywhere on a win2k/XP+ machine.)


It also has a small forum and a nice little following.

I think it's quite a cool application for it's size.

2598) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Help the worlds' hungry. (Message 675790)
Posted 11 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I'm not into these types of 'fund raising' come 'commercial advertising opportunities' but the UN (United Nations) give it their support:

UN World Food Programme - Free Rice.


Some of the words you need to define are a bit obscure but it's not a bad game and no registration is needed and the adverts are not obtrusive.

Personally I think the advertising companies should be donating grain directly but the FreeRice game doesn't seem to have a downside from the players point of view..

2599) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Veterans Day - Nov. 11 (Message 675732)
Posted 11 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

'Veterans Day' in the US and 'Remembrance Day' around the world have the same roots. (We remember the sacrifices given by those who died in war or conflict.)


You made me stop and think though Ziggy:

We often forget the sacrifice made by those who returned alive.

They took the same risks, had their whole lives turned around, faced fear day after day and yet get little thanks.

They also often returned to a completely different home or country that they left.


When I see rememberance days on the TV I see those in the services supporting veterans who survived but we as the general population tend to just commemorate the dead or fallen.


No one in the 'services' or in war can choose what battles they fight. That is decided for them by circumstance or by their government or people.


This 11th of November I'll be giving thanks for all those veterans who survived war and came back to us.

We owe a great deal to each and every one of them.





2600) Message boards : Politics : What's Your Class? (Message 675618)
Posted 10 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
. I think the last time I checked the faux vodka (Distilled in Kentucky?) cost about 10 bucks a liter. Sorry, Bourbon comes from Kentucky, Vodka comes from comes from Eastern Europe/Russia, Beer comes from Germany, Scotch comes from Scotland, and Ale comes from Ireland.


Whisky comes from Scotland
Bier comes from the continent
Ale comes fronm England
Guinness (Stout) comes from Ireland



Hehe..

I wonder if there is a way of telling which 'class' (or socio-ecconomic / educational background) people come from by what alcoholic beverages or other intoxicating chemicals they use?

:o)



2601) Message boards : Cafe SETI : did anybody watch Larry King Live last night? (Message 675537)
Posted 10 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
There's something of Larry on UFO's on YouPoop ... from a while ago.






2602) Message boards : Cafe SETI : FYI v92 modem (dialup) (Message 675366)
Posted 10 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...

@ Crunchy you know your stuff, it is a winmodem but taskinfo shows it uses very little CPU time.


On average it won't until sending compressed data (56KB modem on average transmits at 5kb binary / compressed).

As you suggested when reaching 28KB (actually only 2.8kb binary data) the stream dropped for you. Probably because the server dropped you or the 'return and sent' packets timed out..

The problem with Win-modems is 'negotiation'... They rely on the CPU but also on the server timings they are connecting to.

All it takes is less than a second of peak CPU usage between BOINC and the modem and the connection can be lost. (taskinfo is not that sensitive.)

Without total commitment from your CPU a Win-Modem often gets disconnected.. though modern faster CPUs do a good job normally.

Sm56 is a fine modem for basic tasks.

Your suggestion of reducing the tasks the modem has to perform is spot on.


(... Just adding what I know about the technology... (Me just being a chatter-box :o))


2603) Message boards : Cafe SETI : FYI v92 modem (dialup) (Message 675343)
Posted 10 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Good recommendation as the SM56 is a "Win-Modem" ("UART-Less" as far as I am aware?) which means it relies heavily on your CPU to work.

For SETI crunchers this is a problem as both the modem and BOINC try to use the maximum amount of CPU time. (Often the modem looses..)

Reducing the service needs of the modem is a good idea.




I have posted this in the cafe because it is in no way SETI specific.

My modem is a SM56 from Motorola but I would think this information would apply to most, if not all, v92 modems.

======================================================
A list of symptoms:
Would connect at a good speed but rather quickly train down to 28K. Very annoying.

Some time after getting to 28K the connection would be dropped. Also very annoying.

Would drop the connection and tell me there is a incomming call.

======================================================
The cure:
Disable "Modem on hold".
Set "call waiting" to ignore or off.

======================================================
That's it !!! :)

I now connect at a faster speed than ever before, the modem no longer trains down. It only disconnects once a day, a restriction imposed by my ISP. Not a problem really, so much better than ten or twenty times a day.

Hopes this can help someone.
TTFN
Graeme

2604) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Animation software (Message 675265)
Posted 10 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Here's quite a nice beginners or fun 2D (cartooning) piece of free software:

Stickman.

2605) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Its strange (Message 675012)
Posted 10 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP..
You are right. The software then was called SETI Classic.
Well, thanks for answering. I think i will quit my seti participation
after theese information. It does not seems to have any reall meaning anymore.


tessa,

Look at it this way:

All those units you crunched on SETI-Classic helped build the foundations of the SETI@Home project that we have today.

The software has changed. The reason and purpose of crunching for SETI remains the same.

Did you have a lot of credits in SETI Classic?

2606) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Its strange (Message 674930)
Posted 9 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Thanks for all your answers.
It still dont tell me what I asked for. I joined seti late in the 90´s.
Then the software was not called BOINK. It was called someting else, I dont remember what.
When they changed to boink, my previous data records was not included in
my new account. That was the first time I got suspicious.
I joined seti again after receiveing a reminder mail.

But I dont need my two computers do work for nothing. I just wonder if any of you acctuallu KNOWS that chewed data is ACCTUALLY used on Berkely.

Hope someone kan give an answer. I dont need this forum. I´v got
my parrot birdforum to attend to. I dont like to waste my time for nothing.



Tessa,

I get the feeling you are saying you used to have a "SETI CLASSIC" account and you are wondering why the units you crunched for that are not now added to your the newer "SETI@Home" system?


Are you talking about an older "SETI Classic" account?

2607) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Its strange (Message 674858)
Posted 9 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Why do you need a phone number?


To ask someone who might know, if I need my two computers to work on this.
Understand?

...


tessa,

You can just use one of your computers if you like.

How many you use is up to you.

(If you don't want to use your second computer just don't run the BOINC application or the SETI project on it.)

The Cafe is a friendly place. Ask any questions you like.

There is always the "Number crunching" forum also for more technical questions.



2608) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Its strange (Message 674829)
Posted 9 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


That it is impossible to find any phone-number to any of the Seti leaders. Nor any mailadresses, i can find.
someone told me that setihome was designed to fool people. ....



Why do you need a phone number?

SETI isn't a project out to fool people.

SNIP...

When I watch seti on national geograpic or discovery, they never mention that computers all over the world, are chewing data.
Why is that?

...SNIP...


(tessa) Toby,

This is an issue I agree with you on.

I don't think the crunching part of SETI (SET@Home) is promoted or sold very well at all.

I've never seen a single item on TV or heard anything on radio that even promotes crunching for SETI in the slightest...

Odd hey for a project based upon mass community involvement to achieve it's task faster...


...

Is setihome reall or is it a gigantic swindle?



I just crunch.. Not sure how they could swindle me.. :o)


2609) Message boards : Cafe SETI : One more stupid google trick (Message 673325)
Posted 7 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Nothing happened with that one.


It does work as long as you have the previous javascript loaded and runing.

Otherwise what happens is the maths just crash.

If you run A/C's javascript on it's own on this page you should see the SETI logo move slightly and then falter or just vanish as it gets loaded into memory.



2610) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Stupid Laws (Message 673316)
Posted 7 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Just seen this; UK chooses 'most ludicrous laws' and wondered if you know any more.



Not a UK law but in Tibetan buddhism it is forbidden to make love to skeletons.


2611) Message boards : Cafe SETI : One more stupid google trick (Message 673291)
Posted 7 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Hey that is a lovely bit of javascript.


All I can see are Scarecrows, Robert Ks and CRs floating around my screen..

Kind of hypnotic...


Excellent find Scarecrow!
2612) Message boards : Politics : Your Everyday Costs? (Message 673247)
Posted 7 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I don't know if they have Starbucks in the UK but you can spend a good $2.50 on something as simple a a cup of coffee. I rarely go to Starbucks because the prices are ridiculous in my opinion. Plus they have a tip jar by the cash register. I will not tip a person for pouring me a cup of coffee at a check out counter. Having said all that though, I regularly pay $2.03 (USA dollars) for a cup of coffee (16 oz) and a donut at the local convience store.


We do have Starbucks in the UK though they may not mean the same as they do in the USA.

In the UK they are mostly located in city centres and sell themselves as "quality" coffee houses..

I don't go to Starbucks but I suspect a large cup of coffee will cost around £1.30+ ($2.50+)..

Probably similar to where you are!


2613) Message boards : Politics : What's Your Class? (Message 673200)
Posted 6 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
"How much does stuff (cr@p) cost you"

It's free... And I get it from everybody... ;)


If I could pinch those little chubby ant cheeks without squishing you I would.

Otherwise that will cost you 2 rupee for me not to try n pinch anything..




2614) Message boards : Politics : Your Everyday Costs? (Message 673198)
Posted 6 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
How much do your everyday bits n pieces cost local to you?


What do these things cost you?

* In the UK a quality loaf of sliced packaged bread cost me about £1+.

* A cup of tea in my local cafe' will cost me near £0.70p.



Choose your own items...

What do your everyday items cost you?



(Use your local currency and measurements...)

(It's not a competition.)
2615) Message boards : Politics : What's Your Class? (Message 673179)
Posted 6 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Snips....

Let's check your claim out :o)

What does a one litre (1Ltr) bottle of no-brand (no-name / white label) Vodka (38% proof / alchohol) cost you in the USA from the local super-store?


This sounds like my driving test in America, questions like that and how much is the fine for driving while intoxicated etc. How would I know, I live in England.

(I passed the test with some very good guessing. For the vodka I guess $6.99)


$7 for a litre of Vodka.. That can't be real?

The best price in the UK is about £11 ($22)

Actually this gives me an idea for a new thread..

"How much does stuff (cr@p) cost you" :o)

2616) Message boards : Politics : What's Your Class? (Message 673109)
Posted 6 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Well, I've thought about it for awhile and I have decided what class I am in.

Middle class, lower end.

In other words, I'm a redneck that can afford a better brand of booze.


Let's check your claim out :o)

What does a one litre (1Ltr) bottle of no-brand (no-name / white label) Vodka (38% proof / alchohol) cost you in the USA from the local super-store?



2617) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Guido Fawkes.....International Man of Mystery (Message 673088)
Posted 6 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

. . . reminds mi of Ned Kelly


You mean the Australian outlaw who made armour from shovels?




You sure this Ned & Kelly wasn't a pair of aliens?



Or maybe he was some 4000 year old combined geeza with a steel crotch fetish?



Original picture page...


I'm still proud to be British though :o)

2618) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Guido Fawkes.....International Man of Mystery (Message 673023)
Posted 6 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I think he was a political / religious activist and a rather bad bomber.


It is said that the gun powder was old and 'off' and would not have exploded even if Guy Fawkes had managed to light it. It could well be that the people in the group who supplied the gunpowder didn't really want the plot to go as far as the explosion.


I guess he was a bungling fool or someone in his group (cell) sold him out.

Maybe he just got knackered from carrying all those barrels of gunpowder and gave himself up?

(I'd imagine you would need quite a few wooden barrels full to do any serious explosive damage.)



Bottom of the line 'Guido Fawkes' was a faliure and we celebrate his faliure with gusto every year.

We even gave him a more British name: Our "Guy"...

What could be more British than that.

Proud To Be British!

2619) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Guido Fawkes.....International Man of Mystery (Message 673013)
Posted 6 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Some called the bombers terrorists others said they were freedom fighters.

I'm not sure whether this was the case with Guy Fawkes, but I suspect it was more about who was trying to gain control over England at the time. But then, isn't that the case with terrorism today?.......


For me 'England' is no more than the hearts and minds of the community and people who live here.

Perhaps I don't know enough about Guy Fawkes but I don't think he was a terrorist. I think he was a political / religious activist and a rather bad bomber.

Legally he was a criminal but then so were those who tried to blow up Hilter. (At least in the country where they committed the act.)


Given the 9/11 attacks in America I can understand fully how people there may feel. It's up to them to heal.

One thing I do know is that my older Aunt was in a building in my city that was bombed by the IRA. She was lucky that she survived... but she was also lucky that she had family that had survived the blitz (WW2 bombings) who understood how to turn around her fear and terror and help her survive emotionally.


Just replace 'England' with 'America'.


I don't want to because I think the average person in the USA or the UK (or any other country) just wants the same thing: 'To enjoy life without fear.'


(I'm referring to a certain long term aim by a certain group in the world today.)


You mean the moderators don't you :o)))~ (Giggles... Sorry... ;o))

2620) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Guido Fawkes.....International Man of Mystery (Message 672966)
Posted 6 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Shame, I quite liked my new avatar!!!





Oops..

He belongs to you...

We were just keeping him warm... :o)

2621) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Guido Fawkes.....International Man of Mystery (Message 672960)
Posted 6 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I don't think we will ever know if the actual Guy Fawkes was a terrorist. I don't think he went around the country "terrorising" people.

It's an interesting view of the world you have cRuchy. Terrorist today don't have to go around any country "terrorising" people. They can simply strap explosives to themselves, walk into a public area, usually filled with everyday random people who happen to be there at that time, and blow themselves up together with a number everyday people.

Guy Fawkes was certainly trying to blow people up, whoever happened to be in Westminster during the State Opening of Parliament.

I think we ought to know if that is terrorism or not.


First things first. I am not supporting terrorism, bombing or killing.

In my city we suffered political bombings through-out the 70s and 80s by organisations like the IRA. (Pub bombings, car bombings, letter bombings, office bombings....)

Some called the bombers terrorists others said they were freedom fighters.

Yet there are those we call heros today who strapped bombs to themselves during the second world war and died in the blink of an eye along with their targets and victims.


It is true in this day and age all someone needs to do is get into the media to affect the minds of millions of lives.

I don't think I am wrong in suggesting that we should not call people terrorists unless they actually aim or try to terrorise people.

To terrorise people you do not actually need to kill anyone.

You could just tell them that their neighbours are canibals... If they have faith in you they will live in terror.

There are certainly terrorists in this world... but if we do not define exactly what that means we will never be able to fight them because all we will end up doing is fighting some ethereal or media created demons...

2622) Message boards : Politics : Remember Remember The 5th Of November. (Message 672940)
Posted 6 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Bonfire night over.


It's time to burn the Guy :o)







We'll be back! :o)

2623) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Guido Fawkes.....International Man of Mystery (Message 672939)
Posted 6 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Bonfire night over.


It's time to burn the Guy :o)







We'll be back! :o)

2624) Message boards : Politics : What's Your Class? (Message 672884)
Posted 6 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I'm tired of people who react to a point of view or arguement and then just insult others


Insults are reserved for those who lack wit... ;)


(In lack of wit we are all imperfect at times.)


Everyone began some where (class background or otherwise.)

Where we choose to go and how we travel is far more important.


I Shall Be Released.


2625) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Guido Fawkes.....International Man of Mystery (Message 672823)
Posted 6 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...

Is it possible that many people secretly sympathise with him? Not just in Britan, but around the world. For example in the movie V for Vendetta, would you say that people who watch it are on V's side or the government's? I know, it's fiction set in different times under different circumstances, but well, you know what I'm trying to say.


Interesting.

I wondered if "V" was a half parody of the "Last Man In Europe"... (1948 / 1984.) <Orwell.>

In the movie "V" had to die. He was a dramatic persona who had to exist and die to spark a forgotten idea.

I don't think we will ever know if the actual Guy Fawkes was a terrorist. I don't think he went around the country "terrorising" people.

He was a political / religious bomber.... and obviously a bad one at that as he got caught...

In the movie for me the real hero / heroin was Evie... or at least I identified with her the most.


2626) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Video editing program? (Message 672811)
Posted 6 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

gonna have to do this the hard way...wheres me hatchet


Al - did you try this?


Yes i did bud,but since i dont have the cash for the full program,the "demo" just made some ripoff sample file :|

Ill have a look around.


Will one of the freeware apps here do what you need:

Snapfiles Freeware Video Converters?

Problem is is that most current flash to avi converters output in MP4 which may need a second application to convert to a more usable format.






2627) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The new improved(?) PM system......your views. (Message 671889)
Posted 4 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
David A is certainly no volunteer.


Oh pants and I so much wanted "David A" to be real.

Maybe 'John McLeod' can give reference for David.

Personally I don't think support staff need to crunch to be SETI volunteers.

Though it does help if they are known and supported by regular forum mods and admins.


I really shouldn't have to. Look at the tags under his name. He is one of the administrators, and all of those are paid staff.


Sorry John. I just got freaked by a post level of "1" and a RAC of Zifar..

No disrespect was meant but I'd rather look stupid for asking than not ask and feel stupid afterwards.

Sorry David A.

2628) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Guido Fawkes.....International Man of Mystery (Message 671863)
Posted 4 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIPs...

Nope...but there is good news...the shed is still in one piece.. :o)

The embers in the chimenea are just flickering their last.



You mean the shed is still standing but you blew up your house...

<Me scratches head...>

Shouldn't it be the other way around?




2629) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Guido Fawkes.....International Man of Mystery (Message 671857)
Posted 4 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIPY....

Thanks for clearing that up for me ICE, I thought the King was hated and it was a bad thing that Fawkes was caught....


Erm...

Actually the King was hated and some say Fawkes was a hero.

But if he had succeeded we (English speakers) might all be speaking Spanish or Italian now...


It's a lunatic British thing but we are sort of celebrating Guy Fawkes's faliure.


400 years on and I just like the fireworks... and I liked that he tried...

If 'Guy' was here today we might love him.

An MP3.




2630) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Guido Fawkes.....International Man of Mystery (Message 671802)
Posted 4 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:



Anyone have photos of their Bonfire party?


(PS: I'm changing my avatar because I want to be debonair like Sirius & Houdi..)




2631) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Guido Fawkes.....International Man of Mystery (Message 671786)
Posted 4 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Ok, This Guy Fawkes Stores all this gunpowder under a Government Building
and it was discovered because of loose lips, Fawkes and his co-conspirators are tried for treason and Supposed to be Hung for a few minutes and then get Drawn Quartered and Beheaded..Except Fawkes Jumps off the gallows and breaks his neck......

Have I got this right?

Why is this celebrated?


It's the cafe... We celebrate life however odd (I think..) :o)




2632) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Guido Fawkes.....International Man of Mystery (Message 671781)
Posted 4 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
HI all
my younger sister died on the morning og Guy Fawkes...5th November 2002..at the age of 39...she always wanted to go out with a bang...\\i'm just sorry I wasn't there with her.........however..since her death I've consulted amedium and she's doing okay...much better than when she was on the earth plane as she had so much physical pain and atrophy of her body.
I'm not writing this to be maudlin...just celebrating life.....not one of us knows how or when this physical existence will end...I truly belive that it isn't an end..on;y a transition to the next phase...isn't that what we're all doing in trying to confirm that there's 'life out there'???
Much metta,love and hugs to all
Jewels x


We can't change the dates on which we celebrate important things in our lives.

But we can make those days special.

What is your sisters name?

This 5th of November she will be remembered by us to.



2633) Message boards : Politics : Remember Remember The 5th Of November. (Message 671746)
Posted 3 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
6 centuries on, we could do with him now!!!

Guy should be remembered as a national hero and not a villian.


To describe a person who intended to be a suicide bomber as a "national hero" is shocking. I hope you were joking.


Hey.

Every nation has people who are willing to sacrifice themselves.

Every soldier who goes to war needs to accept they may be committing suicide in the hope they will make a difference.


There is a big difference between an individual who offers their life in hope and a system that creates human weapons.


We would all run in front of traffic to save an innocent.

We would be fools to run in front of traffic because we were trained to do so...


Guy Fawkes is not my hero but I do like his spirit....and I like big bangy firework things :o)


I suspect unlike suicide bombers 'Guy' actually had an escape plan..

It just didn't work out....

He got caught..



2634) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Guido Fawkes.....International Man of Mystery (Message 671727)
Posted 3 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


You know you look rather dashing in your Guy Fawkes mask. Houdi (Keith) also looks rather smart.

Think I'll join you.



Thank you kind sir. However, on my linux box, it's showing up my original avatar. I thought that if one changes preferences in seti, it affects all machines?


Just 'refresh' (f5?) or reload the page a couple of times.

What you are seeing is what is left in the cache (saved back images in your web browser) on your machine.

Your web browser is just storing what it thinks are 'often used' or 'common' images or pages.... It just needs a kick to update itself sometimes..

If you can't 'refresh' then a 'reboot' often does the trick.

2635) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Guido Fawkes.....International Man of Mystery (Message 671696)
Posted 3 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Hey, it looks like Guy's ghost has blown up my post rather than Parliment!!!


Hey.

If some one blows up your post think yourself lucky.

. No post = no bills :o)


You know you look rather dashing in your Guy Fawkes mask. Houdi (Keith) also looks rather smart.

Think I'll join you.

2636) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The new improved(?) PM system......your views. (Message 671681)
Posted 3 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
David A is certainly no volunteer.


Oh pants and I so much wanted "David A" to be real.

Maybe 'John McLeod' can give reference for David.

Personally I don't think support staff need to crunch to be SETI volunteers.

Though it does help if they are known and supported by regular forum mods and admins.

2637) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The new improved(?) PM system......your views. (Message 671638)
Posted 3 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Let us have a scent mailbox, I would vote for that. That way the problem is that are currently causing some consternation would be well fragranced.



eeK. That sounds like "Scratch n Sniff" TV cards from the 1970s..

Yuck...

All the "Scratch n Sniff" cards I ever used either smelt like roses or rabbit poop.


I'd rather not have my inbox stinking like roses thank you very much. ;o)



2638) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The new improved(?) PM system......your views. (Message 671616)
Posted 3 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

SNIP....
Yes, I want the 'sent' box.


That's two votes. Any more?


I'd rather have our inbox 'subject' list back but a 'sent' box would be really helpfull also.


I'm not sure voting is fair though as I suspect the SETI web developers are probably under a great deal of strain at the moment.


I'm still interested in what triggered this last set of updates to these forums?


I think it's great when people try to improve things but some fore-warning, public research and 'slow & selective' changes might be better than 'large scale' changes all at once.






2639) Message boards : Politics : What's Your Class? (Message 671543)
Posted 3 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
OK.

I'm tired of this.

I'm tired of people who react to a point of view or arguement and then just insult others by suggesting they should "get an education", are "stupid" or are of "lesser capability" because they had a different view point.


I mean if you think you know better then share your knowledge... Don't insult.

(It's a massive world and not everyone will understand the cultural, social or political truthes about each others societies... Give us a break!!)



This thread is about "class" or any concept of that relating to you in your life in your society (not other societies.)


In general it was a question to see where the average SETI cruncher comes from or places themselves socially...


2640) Message boards : Politics : Remember Remember The 5th Of November. (Message 671482)
Posted 3 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
It's coming up to that night here in the UK.

(All are welcome from around the globe to join in our crazy celebrations.)



(Clip created from the movie "V For Vendetta.")


I doubt many here in the UK actually know the story behind the "Gunpowder Plot."

Most will just enjoy it as a chance to enjoy an evening outdoors with friends and family.

Many may actually think they are celebrating an ideal of freedom from government (by attempting to blow up parliament.)

Many won't stop to realise they are celebrating the survival of Protestant values, ancient powers and attitudes that govern us still.



Remember Remember The Fifth Of November

Remember, remember the Fifth of November,
The Gunpowder Treason and Plot,
I know of no reason
Why Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot.
Guy Fawkes, Guy Fawkes, t'was his intent
To blow up King and Parliament.
Three-score barrels of powder below
To prove old England's overthrow;
By God's providence he was catch'd
With a dark lantern and burning match.
Holloa boys, holloa boys, let the bells ring.
Holloa boys, holloa boys, God save the King!

A penny loaf to feed the Pope
A farthing o' cheese to choke him.
A pint of beer to rinse it down.
A faggot of sticks to burn him.
Burn him in a tub of tar.
Burn him like a blazing star.
Burn his body from his head.
Then we'll say ol' Pope is dead.
Hip hip hoorah!
Hip hip hoorah hoorah!



I wonder what Britain (and the world) would have been like today if England had become Catholic or it's government had been totally wiped out back in 1605 on the 5th of November?



==============================

Go here for 'Bonfire Night' fun in the Cafe.



Get your "5th of November - Gunpowder Folk" avatar here. - This week only :)

- -

If you want to see your government go out with a big bang wear a "Gunpowder Folk" avatar with pride this week.

(All sizes fit all people.)
2641) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Guido Fawkes.....International Man of Mystery (Message 671478)
Posted 3 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
So...what are you folks in the UK doing to celebrate?


5th of November I'll be standing next to a massive bonfire and setting off big bright firework thingys.

Oh... and eating lots...


... and dreaming of:


(Clip created from the movie "V For Vendetta.")



Get your "5th of November - Gunpowder Folk" avatar here? - This week only :)

- -

If you want to see your government go out with a big bang wear a "Gunpowder Folk" avatar with pride this week.

(All sizes fit all people.)

2642) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The new improved(?) PM system......your views. (Message 671378)
Posted 3 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

You should not have to manually mark a message as 'read'. To be able (for whatever reason?} to mark as it as unread it OK.....but when you read it, you have read it, haven't you now?


Because all messages are now served on / as one page the server no longer knows which individual message you have read.

Hence it no longer automatically marks individual messages read!

(It can only mark all messages read or (as it does now) mark nothing.)

Traditional logic has been broken - Simplicity of function lost :o(


2643) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The new improved(?) PM system......your views. (Message 671361)
Posted 3 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
OK folks...what do you think about the new layout?

Personally...not impressed, I prefer the old layout.


I hate the new PM inbox to.

It looks like a rip-off of some google or yahoo groups idea of Vista gone wrong.


Whatever happened to a subject list?

I used to be able to just look down a list of subjects / topics / headers and select what I wanted to read but now have to read everything.


If I want to click off items for deletion I now have to scroll post by post (meaning the server will probably require far more disk space for undeleted but read posts as I can't be bothered to scroll on forever...)

It also means (along with the extra button scripts) that I can no longer log in off my mobile phone or PDA to join in these forums whilst mobile....

(One reason I always liked the SETI forums is because they were simple and functional..)


What spured the latest round of forum 'look' updates? (As far as I can tell they actually don't add any greater functionality... Though I might be wrong??)


(Sorry.... I just had to blurt it all out...)

2644) Message boards : Politics : What's Your Class? (Message 671283)
Posted 2 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Hey folks,

Why has this thread become a Britain or Europe against America thread?

OR why has it become a thread about the difference between 'Kings' or 'beggars'.

From what I see most people on SETI have a much richer popular background than this.

I still suspect we all have a social and family background that has to some degree defined our present lives but I'm starting to wonder if SETI people are more socially (educationally, ecconomically) mobile than the average person?

Is there a word that American's use to deffine inherited and continuing social difference rather than 'class?'

I know the concept of 'class' as a description has changed here in the UK since the 1980s.


2645) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Look! New buttons! (Message 671213)
Posted 2 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...
Also, the PM button below the avatar is too big and ugly. Looks out of place...


I wonder if a line space between the base of the avatar and the button would improve it's look?

However I suspect the width of these 'form' style buttons are goverened by the length of the text "Send message" and not really controllable by the web page designer.

This is how 'form' buttons look for me in Opera (using my chosen theme):





EDIT:

After reviewing this post back in IE I do notice the PM button is cut off by the left hand column (fixed?) width:








2646) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Look! New buttons! (Message 671208)
Posted 2 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP
cRunchy, does my avatar look sharper in Opera? :0)


Your avatars always look 'sharp' and classy my friend :o))

Seriously though. I compared your avatar in Opera and IE side by side and they looked the same.

I think what might be making your avatar look a little 'soft' is the lack of black lines around the lions, the grey and the tiny detail in the armour.

I wonder whether reducing the colour count would give it a little more punch and give sense of "effective sharpness."?

(PS: "IrfanView" sometimes has a slightly better algorithm for reducing colours, image size and sharpening than Paint Shop Pro.... Might be worth running the original back through that and comparing!)



2647) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Look! New buttons! (Message 671203)
Posted 2 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I think I fixed the Opera problem.
Let me know if any other problems.


Cheers David A.

The space below the header and the first seen post is back to normal in Opera now.

The buttons themselves look and function as expected. (The style, shape and look of buttons are governed by the users chosen Opera theme.)

So everything in Opera 9+ is working fine and dandy :o)

Thanks for your work David.


2648) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Look! New buttons! (Message 670945)
Posted 2 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
My buttons just changed from white like things with black text, to matching my windows theme.

Can't they stay in one form?

I believe that one of the developers is experimenting with some code...


Who do I e.mail about the horrid layout in Opera?
2649) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Look! New buttons! (Message 670862)
Posted 2 Nov 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

seems all is accounted for and WORKING w/ IE7 . . . no problems with ~any~ buttons 'ere ;)



Buttons work fine here on Opera 9 too except the whole thing looks a bit ugly.

I'm getting anything between 12cm to 30cm gap between the page header and the posts. (Meaning I am having to scroll down even before I can see a post... {An advantage some might say :o)})


Buttons are funky green, yellow and blue glass ones... but that's kinda normal for Opera.




2650) Message boards : Cafe SETI : On A Street Near You - Street Performers Extraordinaire. (Message 669999)
Posted 31 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I would have to find the pictures (took them over a decade ago) of the Pearl Street Mall in Boulder Colorado. No, it is not exactly close to here.


I found this short clip about Pearl Street featuring a couple of street performers:

Youtube: Scootstars - Boulder

... and some Boulder photos.

Looks like a nice place to visit.







2651) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BOINC safety (Message 669298)
Posted 30 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I appreciate the welcomes extended by all of you long timers. Thank you all for being so very inviting.
I think I'll be spending most of my posting time inside the Cafe SETI after reading the threads in Politics.
I do have one question. I've spoken about BOINC and SETI to friends and people at work. Many of them have expressed fears about the security of the system.
While I don't have any important information in my hard drive, many people do and aren't willing to expose themselves.
Have there been any instances of hackers breaking into the computers of participants?


Hi Robert W.

I think you are being a little over cautious.

Are you on dial-up (56KB modem) or using cable (EG: a network card)? Do you have a router?

Using the BOINC application and crunching for SETI creates almost zero threat to you or your PC.

It is far more likely that your other internet activities might cause you problems.

If you are on dial-up (56kb modem?) and stay online for more than a few minutes then getting yourself a software firewall (EG: Zone Alarm) is probably a good idea.

However as BOINC only connects to a specific site and has it's own protocol you are unlikely to suffer an attack because of SETI.

If you are using 'cable' or a 'network card' then getting yourself a router will be your best option.

If you have a router already then you are probably already as safe as you can be given most routers have hardware firewalls built in.


How do you connect to the net? Dial-up or cable etc?

2652) Message boards : Cafe SETI : On A Street Near You - Street Performers Extraordinaire. (Message 669281)
Posted 30 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
These guys love doing what they do:


The Dualers:

"Taller Than You Are."

"Don't Go."


Do you have a favorite street artist who performs near you?

(Doesn't have to be a youtube. Maybe you snaped a photo on your phone or camera!.)


2653) Message boards : Politics : What's Your Class? (Message 669061)
Posted 29 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
What is my class? I am King!



They say:

Once a King always a King

but once a knight is enough.


:o)~



2654) Message boards : Politics : What's Your Class? (Message 668828)
Posted 29 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
If you want to get personal, use the PM system.

One more of these snide remarks, no matter by whom, and this thread will be closed for a clean-up. Nothing against heated discussions - but the boards don't need to be spammed by insults.

(Sorry, cRunchy)


Yes the arguement went too far.

My fault really for reacting.

Sorry people.

Sorry R/B.


I was just honestly interested in where SETI folk come from in terms of skills, education, background, etc...

Perhaps the word 'class' was not the best choice of words.


Well, actually for me it was the right choice of words - but people are different, some just misunderstand things, some put more meaning into words than others - that's the risks of human communication.

Like BrainSmashR said: "Actually, suggesting someone start a thread about black vs. white isn't [necessarily (added by me)] calling an individual a racist.."

Oops I agreed to something BrainSmashR said! *ducks&runs*


Oh pant's. Actually the quote was:


Duh! Sounds like you're parroting what I told you from DAY ONE

People in America aren't as bigoted as you. Figure it out. .....Catch a clue. Get the wax out of your ears.

Brits are much more bigoted and the rest of the Euro weenies are even worse. I have doubts about your ability to reason morally. Have you thought even 5 minutes about how hateful and bigotted this thread is?

Next time make a thread about 'How inferior are blacks to white folks'...and be done with it.


It was not really a suggestion to create a new thread about black/white issues but a comparison between my use of the word 'class' and a concept of black /white issues (race) and bigotry.

It's a matter of how you wish to read it.

I obviously read it wrong if the majority of others are suggesting it was just an innocent suggestion devoid of it's context.

Again for that I am sorry.



2655) Message boards : Politics : What's Your Class? (Message 668768)
Posted 29 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
If you want to get personal, use the PM system.

One more of these snide remarks, no matter by whom, and this thread will be closed for a clean-up. Nothing against heated discussions - but the boards don't need to be spammed by insults.

(Sorry, cRunchy)


Yes the arguement went too far.

My fault really for reacting.

Sorry people.

Sorry R/B.


I was just honestly interested in where SETI folk come from in terms of skills, education, background, etc...

Perhaps the word 'class' was not the best choice of words.

2656) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Perceptions of SETI in Science Fiction (Message 668645)
Posted 29 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

This week I saw 3 different Sci-Fi TV series in which SETI was mentioned. (Stargate, Masters of Sci-Fi and X-Files.)

The impression given is of SETI being an institution shrouded in scientific mystery or something attached to the (US) government or something attached to the military.

Of course these are only fiction but they do add to the general understanding of what SETI is.


One thing I have never seen is anything to do with the 'crunching' aspect of SETI and it's world wide use of shared computing in everyday homes.

I can't remember the last time I saw someone in some sci-fi drama point to their PC and say that they were crunching for SETI.

Maybe it would make for poor drama!

Can anyone think of a movie or TV show where SETI is mentioned? (Do you remember the context?)


Is sci-fi misrepresenting SETI?




2657) Message boards : Politics : What's Your Class? (Message 668519)
Posted 29 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Funny, for an Englishman you don't seem to have a command of the language. Bigot doesn't equal racist.

I'm not in the business of running a 2nd grade classroom for people like you.

Don't tell me what I need to know about England and the UK. I've spend many months...many...in company with your kinsmen/women. I've lived with them. I know all I need to know.

I wish you'd close this thread. I was the first to post in it and warned you that it was a bad idea to impose this sort of 'classifications' on people as you put it.

You're serving no purposes other than to set people against eachother.

Close the thread! Why do you think so few of the usual posters have stooped so low as to even post in here? Go argue and pick a fight in a useful thread about something else than your genetic class oriented gibberish. Argue ideas and not heritage and hate.



I won't close the thread R/B.

If you want your posts deleted just ask the mods. Then I'll ask them to delete all my direct responses to you.

Otherwise your points of view are as valid as anyone elses as long as they are on topic.


I never 'imposed' anything. I just used the term 'class' and gave a rather broad description.

I was just interested in how people see themselves. I am sure people here are well capable of describing themselves regardless of my initial post.


You can be as angry with me as you like. Tomorrow you won't be.

As I said you are welcome to visit the UK.

The flight is not expensive and we will find some where for you to stay.

Come judge us first hand.


(PS: You are always welcome to PM me if you have something personal to say or argue.)
2658) Message boards : Politics : What's Your Class? (Message 668481)
Posted 29 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Huh? I never called you a racist. I'm sick of bigots putting words in my mouth. Yes, I'm telling you off. I think you are a bigot.



You did suggest I should talk about Black / White and that we in the UK were bigots.

That equates to calling us/me racist.

It's Ok R/B though.

I just don't understand your aggression.

Maybe you just don't like me.

There are another 60 million people in the UK so I am fairly sure if you want to come and see for yourself you'll never have to meet me.

I never thought I was bigoted but I am quite ashamed of myself that you would think so :o(

(Do you really want to continue this sad conversation or can we just get back to the thread? You can always PM me your angst if you like!)
2659) Message boards : Politics : What's Your Class? (Message 668469)
Posted 29 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Duh! Sounds like you're parroting what I told you from DAY ONE

People in America aren't as bigoted as you. Figure it out. .....Catch a clue. Get the wax out of your ears.

Brits are much more bigoted and the rest of the Euro weenies are even worse. I have doubts about your ability to reason morally. Have you thought even 5 minutes about how hateful and bigotted this thread is?

Next time make a thread about 'How inferior are blacks to white folks'...and be done with it.


Wow.

Sounds like you are telling me off.

The word 'class' simply relates to 'classifications'...

I would love to visit America as I think it is a wonderful culture.

I'm not sure where you got your view of the UK from.

You are always welcome to come visit us.

I love my country but I don't think it is the best country in the world.

We have a lot to change.

I just like my community. I hope I did not promote the worst of us!

If you want to accuse us of racism you need to checkout the statistics and our history.

We allow far more people percentage wise from non-white (or 'other') nations than most other societies around the world.

Our history means we have a genetic heritage stretching across most of Europe and into Africa and Asia.

If you think I am bigoted just come and spend a week here.

It's not expensive to get a flight to the UK.

We'll find you somewhere to stay.

Just don't be agressive with me R/B.

I just think to understand others you need to know something about yourself first.


(PS: R/B - This thread had nothing to do with Black / White issues. Why are you obsessed with that issue??)
2660) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dr. C.E.T.I. (Richard) - Birthday 10/29 - YESTERDAY!!! (Message 668435)
Posted 29 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Hey it's the 29th here GMT so let the fireworks fly.

Happy Birthday

Dr. C.E.T.I.


Let's Party.



2661) Message boards : Politics : What's Your Class? (Message 668416)
Posted 28 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
OK. I'm back again :o)

When I started this thread I was quite interested in the social make up of people who crunch for SETI.

I used the word 'class' because it means something to me both sociologically and because it is part of my heritage. (UK.)

Maybe if I had of asked what 'educational background' or 'income level' people came from people would have given simpler answers but I think asking what 'class' has given more interesting responses.

From what I have seen most people in Europe generally understand the concept of 'class' and many in America don't quite accept it as a way of describing themselves.

If I could change the direction of this thread then I would ask where you would place the 'average' (not yourself) SETI cruncher in terms of class, education, income, background, philosophy, belief... whatever... etc??


2662) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Can Anyone Use This CPU? = P4 - 630 - LGA775? (Message 666301)
Posted 25 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Ratava PM'd me saying he wanted the CPU so it is his.


I'm just glad it will get some good use.


Thank you to the other folks that were interested.




(Daniel. I have PM'd you.)
2663) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Can Anyone Use This CPU? = P4 - 630 - LGA775? (Message 666214)
Posted 25 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...
cRunchy, I just sent a PM. Sorry for the delay came home and had to cook and eat dinner and only just got back here.

As I said in my PM, if Ratava can use it, give it to him. If he wants it. No pressure or bad feelings if you take it Ratava. :)


Thank you Gavin,

Dune also just PMd me and said after some research he couldn't use it either.


This leaves Ratava then Daniel in that order..


@ Ratava. If you still want the CPU let us know.



(I'm going to be offline for the next few hours.)
2664) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Can Anyone Use This CPU? = P4 - 630 - LGA775? (Message 666187)
Posted 25 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Please no more requests.

To be fair to people I need to let Gavin & Ratava respond to see if either of them will take the CPU.

If neither of them want it then Dune or Daniel get it in that order.

There are enough people who are interested now so someone in the thread below will get the chip.



2665) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Can Anyone Use This CPU? = P4 - 630 - LGA775? (Message 666144)
Posted 25 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
OK,

As far as I am aware this chip will only fit LGA775 mobo's from 2005+ onwards.

It won't replace earlier pentium series.

LGA775 is the package type. (LGA775 has no pins underneath the chip.)

LGA775 motherboards also use Celerons so not just Pentiums. (Although they may be Intel specific?)

Anyway R/B (here and via PM) has passed on the offer.

Gavin & Ratava if either of you still want this CPU will you PM each other and agree who's machine will be better benefited by this chip.

Let me know.


(Don't forget your BIOS also needs to support this CPU.)

2666) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Can Anyone Use This CPU? = P4 - 630 - LGA775? (Message 666110)
Posted 25 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

OK guys.

I prefer to give it to the person that 'knows' they can use it.

R/B check your motherboard or post your mobo details here and we can advice you.

It's only a CPU so as long as the person who gets it makes good use of it I don't care :o)

3 people have shown an interest so let's wait to see if R/B needs it.

2667) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Can Anyone Use This CPU? = P4 - 630 - LGA775? (Message 666095)
Posted 25 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Intel Pentium 4 Processor 630

Package / socket type is LGA775

Specific Info:
http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL7Z9


General Info:
http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/pentium4.htm


I've had this CPU sitting around for ages.

My PCs won't take it so it's just gathering dust.

As far as I know it works but I haven't been able to test it.

If you can use this in one of your crunchers or to build a free PC for someone then let me know.

First person to post their interest in this thread gets first choice.

(It's probably a good idea if you also PM me.)

No cost. It's free. It's small so it won't even cost you postage.

I'm in the UK but I'll post it worldwide.


2668) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The FIXER strikes again. (Message 665975)
Posted 25 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Somehow this jerk got my myspace group, and my personal profiles deleted!!!!! I am in total shock! I know he is sitting there all proud of himself, thinking he is the hacker of the century. Sadly, I WAS going to let my myspace page die, but I didnt want to kill our BOINC group!!! WHat a jerk. Thats all I can say here. Apparently the guy isn't as retarded as he made himself seem. I would love to know how he did it!?!?!! Did he hack MY computer somehow and get the password? Did he hack myspace? Either way, he sure needs to do more good in the world instead of ruining other peoples effort. Way to contribute to BOINC!! Delete one of the top teams!! THis guy needs to come see me personally.

Note to him: If you have the go-nads, post me some directions.. I will promptly come bash your face in.


Matt,

I'm not going to be your fan here but I don't mean to be bad.

Firstly even if you feel angry you shouldn't be posting threats about 'bashing peoples faces in'. It won't help you.

Secondly why use 'myspace'? There are lot's of people on these forums who could help you set up a perfectly secure space for your team or your own promotions.

Thirdly I doubt "the FIXER" has hacked your PC and stolen some obscure password to 'myspace' just to attack you. Any hacker that took the time to get some odd bit of info could have easily taken your address book, letters, bank details and every other piece of private data you use on your PC.


Why not just start again and move to a new service and if the problem happens again you would then have proof.

Unless of course you are suggesting 'myspace' is compromised per-se.. In which case you might be better asking on the 'myspace' forums to see if others have had your experience.


Just in case you have a keylog or dialer on your PC have you run an anit-virus / spyware app or run a com application like cPorts to see where your PC is connecting to?


You really need to talk to 'myspace' as only they and you are responsible for the security of their service to you.

If 'myspace' have any proof that a SETI member has been attacking you I am sure the admins here would be glad to hear directly from a 'myspace' admin via e.mail.


2669) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Earth" or "The Earth" (Message 665954)
Posted 25 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Some refer to me as "The Sarge," to place me above all the other Slim Shady Imitatin' Sarges.


Erm.

Actually No. Some of us refer to you as "THE 'Thing' From The Cafe."

Giggles.. Ooops.. :o)~


(Me runs for cover..)

2670) Message boards : Politics : Peace in our time? (Message 664080)
Posted 22 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Though often peace costs.


Peace Sells... but who's buying!?

Couldn't resist...


That's quite nice in a grunge sort of way :o)

...
If there's a new way,
I'll be the first in line.
But, it better work this time.
...


I'm kind of hoping too.






2671) Message boards : Politics : Peace in our time? (Message 664067)
Posted 22 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
....
It's only now that we have the technology and ecconomic power to make a difference world wide.


Ok, going with that... so since we started on this technological age, how has the state of the world been the last 100 years? Acceleratingly toward more and more war. One can read the newspaper or watch the evening news as to how peaceful we are becoming.


We also live longer, feed far more people than have ever existed on this planet before, have the ability for far more people to communicate and have saved more lives with medicine in the past 50 years than were ever saved in the whole of human history prior to our technological age.

No doubt bigger weapons mean more deaths but having a big weapon does not make someone more aggressive. It just makes their single action more devastating.


Of course if you want to believe your basic human essence is aggressive or violent who can stop you.


Ok let's review what I stated earlier: "I believe the "fight" is an inherent human trait. Take away religion, remove government, disallow any other controls and yet another human (not all necessarily but some) will gladly take a stick and bash another's head in (or use the larger cc brain power to effect a more subtle means) for personal gain."

Survival of the fittest. I would sum it up as "drive". I'm not going to quibble about what I plainly stated. Did you notice the "subtle means" bit? Why are you zeroing on the violent aspect? I was using it as an example.

You are free to interpret it how you wish. People inevitable read into things what they care to see.


People do have drives. People do want what suits them best.

If peace suited them best then the drive arguement suggests we would have peace tomorrow.


If I zeroed in on the 'violent' aspect it is because the thread is about achieving 'peace' and violence is the antipathy of peace.


I guess I am argueing a different underlying concept of human drives.

I know I will be on my own arguing this given we have had millenia being told and believing that we can never achieve peace because of our supposed essential competitive or fighting nature.


I don't believe we will ever achieve total peace but I do believe we could achieve something close to it.


Though often peace costs and we need to be willing to pay the price.


2672) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I am sorry, I did my best..... (Message 664009)
Posted 22 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Well everyone, i guess this is goodbye.

It had been pretty difficult, a 14 long days, almost 7000 credit, and well...

i didnt find ET.
so i am giving up.
goodbye.




Think yourself lucky - there are people here who have been crunching for over 1400 days and they still haven't found the public lavatory...


I hope you realise we hid ET.

No one is allowed to find him until their 15th day of crunching!


2673) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Funny code? (Message 663999)
Posted 22 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

? wasn't that squirrel poop ?


We had a squirrel that lived in our shed when we were kids.

I used to collect it's dried poops to put in my pellet gun.

I shot at my sister once and a pellet went in her ear.

My mom had to float the dried squirrel poop out of my sister's ear with water..

I don't think my sister ever forgave me..

It was fun though :o)



2674) Message boards : Politics : Peace in our time? (Message 663966)
Posted 22 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIPs my stuff..


My fiancee got a good laugh at you (maybe) calling me a naturally aggressive. :)

All I know is that in the past 200,000 or so years a peaceful solution has not came forth. And things are getting worse overall IMO. I think that speaks volumes. Blame it on religion, government, greed, and/or false pride but that is what humans have chosen for themselves.

I still stand on my viewpoint that humans (as a whole) are incapable of world peace. If anything, you could call it pessimism on my part. Now excuse me while I go outside and kick my dog and flip the neighbors the bird for daring to park in front of my house. :)


I'm not suggesting humans do not have an aggressive element in them.

The reality of us exists in your own life.

Do you think you are a more aggressive person or a more co-operative person?


If you a more aggressive and less co-operative person I doubt you would even be a member of this forum..

SETI exists and if we think humans are more aggressive than peaceful it stands to reason you believe that SETI is a product of human aggressive and destructive tendencies.


As to the arguement that we haven't yet achieved world peace after 200,000 years.. Well do you really expect people in mud huts to be able share the concept of world peace without the technology?

What you are missing is that over those 200,000 years there has been more peace than war.

It's only now that we have the technology and ecconomic power to make a difference world wide.

It's not really fair to ask cave men and women to make world peace using a few drums and bones...


Of course if you want to believe your basic human essence is aggressive or violent who can stop you.

No doubt humans who feel they have no other choice but to be aggressive will never have peace.


Problem for me is that almost everyone who proclaims humans to be bad invariably are talking about someone else.


But if people here think their own essential nature is bad then I guess they agree with the bible which says people are born in sin.


To some degree that is a comfortable place to be.

People who think they are bad from the start never have to try as they will always assume failure to start with.

Hence for those who think humans will always fail then any attempt at world peace will also fail.



As humans we are certainly volatile and often difficult.

I'm not sure that is the same as aggressive or fatal.




2675) Message boards : Politics : Peace in our time? (Message 663856)
Posted 21 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
So is that what wars are about. To impose peace?


Wars and skirmishes are about anything. Such as land grabs for example.


I'm going to be really cheeky.. Sorry :o)


Darwin = People fight
Freud = People fight
Marx = People fight
Hitler = People fight
Nietche = People fight
Adam Smith = People fight


Does anyone notice the similarity between these historic people?

It's not that they all argued that people fight but that they are all from the same tradition however differently they argued their ideas.

They are all people who were born or effected by the imperialist notions of categorization, structuralism and linear control.

They are all saps to some overbearing belief in a heritage that stretches back to Plato...


Oh and all of them are dead.


I am happy to listen to early thinkers but they died and the world they told us they were trying to make better ended up in several world wars.

Not really a good resume hey!



I don't think it is the nature of individual humans to be aggressive.

I don't think it is the nature of communities to hate.

I think by and large humans are neither good nor bad but by nature always move towards creation within their own societies.


Most humans move towards the good although at times there are elements that pervert their path.

Humans are still here after thousands upon thousands of years regardless off all the evil and bad things we have been told about them (us.)


Peace in our time is possible. Its just not likely.

Not because the majority of people are evil or agresssive but because we still haven't ensured the well being of all our fellow people and people without security will always fight and will sadly listen to those who promise something they may never deliver.


Maybe those who suggest that humans are naturally aggressive should ask themselves if they too are naturally aggressive and whether their own perception of humans is aggressive per-se.

Kind of makes a self-fulfilling arguement.



I have no clue how to encourage world peace but may be there is a different approach other than believing we as humans are incapable.



2676) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time Travel (Message 663779)
Posted 21 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Don't try this at home:




Looks like it was made in China :o)



Giggle..


It looks like some love triangle's self tazering pleasure tool to me.

These time travelers are kinky devils.

(Not to be tried at home.)


I think I'd rather have a cup of tea or a poke in the eye to be honest..
2677) Message boards : Politics : What's Your Class? (Message 663673)
Posted 21 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I have no class but take a guess...

Dennis and I don't agree on much but I think I'd like him to be in my 'class'. :-P

But to take the point of this thread back to a serious level of consideration I would like to point out that America, as the first nation in the history of the world to be founded upon a set of ideas is one where class ultimately does not matter. I've had English girlfriends years ago, one who was considered 'posh' I suppose, and know that this idea of 'class' is specific to cultures where wealth and power were consecrated and endowed by birth and not merit.

Funnily the philosophic principles that drive racist beliefs are quite similar in cultures that are generally not racist (like the UK) yet persist. They are two sides of the same coin. They do not hold that someone, man or woman, should be regarded as civil or 'advanced' except by virtue of their breeding, whether or not they deserve such reputation upon their merits or accomplished virtues. Cultures like the Francos detest 'new money'...especially. Historically, and rightfully so for some reasons (albeit irrational in today's contexts) are suspect of it as if it must have been acquired through dastardly deeds.



It's an interesting concept that the USA is without class.

I'm not using the word 'class' in a specific way but just to indicate strata of society that are repeated over generations. That is after all the basis of class.


Oddly the Conservative (democratic - right wing) PM Margaret Thatcher in 1999/81 said that there were no classes in the UK.

Do American's really believe the USA is a meritocracy in which people earn their position based upon merit?


What about college kids. Do all of the 200++ million in the USA have the same chance of getting into Harvard or even Berkeley? Or does it depend upon their family, social or ecconomic backgrounds?


Can you imagine a year in which the American Dream (anyone can make it) actually came true. Statistically if the American Dream is true then there should be one year in history that all who try will win at the same time.

Can you imagine a world where every one won the largest slice of the cake?

It's the same issue in the UK or the rest of the world.

Can you imagine. We would all kill each other to own that slice...


Perhaps I should have asked "What Class Were Your Parent's From" as that is an easier question than having to own up to where you personally were placed.


I came from the 'Artisan' class. Sort of between educated working class and technical middle class with a slight touch of the upper class artist added in :o))


It doesn't have to define me. It's where I started. Not where I am today.

2678) Message boards : Politics : Peace in our time? (Message 663666)
Posted 21 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I consider anybody who advocates 'peace' who does not also advocate for individual rights and the prohibition of the intiation of force to be insincere at best and a liar at worst.

I don't find it fruitful to even think of discussing 'peace' with anyone that will not express advocacy of that principle.

Big Waste of Time.

I haven't got a clue what you're talking about Robert. WHO are you talking about? WHO is it that you won't discuss peace with? For the record "I" have not advocated "peace" in this thread, neither did I define, as initiator of this thread, what "peace" I was talking about. Maybe peace to sit in my own garden without the noise of traffic annoying me? But as I didn't, you can sulk away from whatever "peace" people wish to discuss here. Goodbye.

What a strange strange strange response from you. HMmmmm.

Perhaps you haven't gotten your latest orders from Gang? Or mayhaps you have?

Just deal with what I say as an idea and stop your personal vendettas.



@R/B: Actually R/B since your post followed mine and I used the word "force" in my post I did wonder if you meant me when you used the words 'insincere' and 'liar.'

I did think about responding at that time but I spent the time wondering to myself instead.

In a perfect world no one should ever use force. In this imperfect world we have to us some force at times but if we are good we won't use undue force and we will avoid it for as long as we can.


@ICE: I thought you mostly meant world peace as in no wars and no civil unrest and then a general demeanour of respect for others.


Maybe I messed up all around.


My friend once said that I had a Vendetta. I thought he said a Lambretta. No wonder it kept crashing. Poo :o)~

2679) Message boards : Politics : What's Your Class? (Message 663581)
Posted 21 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I have too much class to say...


:o))

LOL.

2680) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Milkus Ad Infinitum -- Happy Birthday Robert!! (Message 663570)
Posted 21 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Well, folks, everyone's favorite straight man, milker of small animals, o'ist and philosopher extraordinaire and all around good guy has his birthday on the 18th.
....



* * R/B * *


I missed your special day on the 18th. :o(


R/B do you mind having another birthday today just for me to celebrate? :o)


Every day should be an R/B day.


Happy Year Ahead.

cRunchy


2681) Message boards : Politics : What's Your Class? (Message 663567)
Posted 21 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

We don't tend to talk about 'class' these days but it would be interesting to see where SETI people place themselves.

Class is a complex issue involving family history, upbringing, experiences, education, political choices and income.


Would you say you are working class, middle class or upper class? Or maybe something else or something more complex.?

OR

What class (or aspect of) do you think the majority of SETI crunchers or forum members belong to?

2682) Message boards : Politics : Peace in our time? (Message 663553)
Posted 21 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Do you think we'll get it?


I am lucky because for me locally there is already peace in my time.

It just doesn't exist every where for everyone.

The majority of humans live peacefully with each other. The only time they don't is when they feel threatened or when those with power incite the masses to hate others.

I don't expect total peace will ever happen but I do expect us to be able to create a world in which we as a community can force those who want to fight to stand down and resolve their problems through dialogue and negotiation.

No nation ever went to war before it's people were either convinced by threat or by it's leaders to do so.

We can't eradicate threat from outside but we could, if we wanted, eradicate those leaders within our countries who love to play on our fears.

For me there will never be a relative world peace until we get rid of leaders who promote hate or we remove the poverty and lack of education that allows leaders to take so much control..


On the other hand I wonder what will happen when resources like oil, copper, coal start to run dry in the West... Will we be so civil to our neighbours then?


Did you know that Malaria has killed more people through out history than all wars put together!

2683) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dr. C.E.T.I. (Richard) - Birthday 10/29 - YESTERDAY!!! (Message 663466)
Posted 20 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
It's a bit early but some people need a week or so to prepare for their big birthday celebrations.



Dr. C.E.T.I.



Hope your birthday will be full of fireworks, oodles of pressies and lots of fun.

8 days and counting.

Hope you are ready!

2684) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dr. C.E.T.I. (Richard) - Birthday 10/29 - YESTERDAY!!! (Message 663463)
Posted 20 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

What's the fun in that? Birthday's are a time for celebration of life!


My birthday isn't. I'm happy celebrating everyone else's birthdays.


That's nice but you are still Mr Poopy..

Maybe we just like having a good ole knees up.

Go on CR tell us your B/day... you don't have to tell us your age :o)

2685) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why must I be a kittenager in love?? (Message 663374)
Posted 20 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The kitties say.....Kittenagers in love. ohh wah............


I don't think I will be buying any nuts this christmas.

They all seem to be bulging out of their vacuum packets.

eeK..



2686) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I Past 1000 Posts (Message 662228)
Posted 19 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP....
FWIW, i'm having trouble to see why (no offense to Crunchy) someone gets congratz for posting enormous amounts of stuff on the mb.

Really i don't get it(That's an HONEST QUESTION!). What makes that special or any usefull ?



Crunch3r. I don't think you are being offensive. It's a good question but I can only say what I meant by starting this thread.


I didn't really post this thread because I thought I had done something outstanding.

I just posted it because I noticed I had been around these forums for 1000 posts.

1000 posts is not a massive count but it is something I did here. More than that it is something I did amongst fellow members here.


I think when someone writes their first post on these forums it is just as special as when they post their 10th, 100th or 1000th post.


I guess I was just feeling emotional and thinking about the way some people find it easy to fit in from their very first post and others like me have to write a few extra posts.

It's natural that we are all different but I kind of was thinking that I felt accepted now.


I think I was just celebrating the fact that I would never of been able to have posted 1000 posts unless I felt comfortable amongst the core majority of members here.


Not all markers or celebrations need to seem 'usefull' - It's often more about the people rather than the event.


More important than my number of posts is that people stopped by and said something nice to me. That's far more precious.



2687) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I Past 1000 Posts (Message 662055)
Posted 18 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP





That's funky Doggy.

Tar for that :o))


2688) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I Past 1000 Posts (Message 662052)
Posted 18 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
You're just a small-time blabber mouth. But every one needs his/her moment in the sun.

So congratulations!


You mean our 15 minutes of fame?


I'd be happy with 15 seconds.

I have no way of competing with all you 'gods of the gob' but hey I'm trying to aspire. :o)~




My little world is all mine... hehehehehe. 1011 and counting.



2689) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I Past 1000 Posts (Message 662027)
Posted 18 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Hey everyone look at me I just past my 1000th post.

I almost didn't notice so I'm up to 1009 now.

It's kind of a success for me.

1000+ posts on a great project and amongst such wonderful people. That is so nice to me.

I don't know if those posts were good but to me it is good to be here.

It's only a little thing but I'm smiling today.


2690) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Useless Talents - Be proud Of Them.. (Message 662001)
Posted 18 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I can sometimes feel it raining a good 10 minutes or more before anyone else around me. It's true. I can be in the middle of London amongst multi-story buildings and I will feel a (tiny) drop or two of rain and look up to the sky to make sure it wasn't pigeon doing it's do's on me. I would comment on it (now I just plainly state "It's about to rain") but no-one around me has felt anything. Sometime later, usually at least 5 or 10 minutes, it starts to rain.


I believe you.

Quite a few years ago my friend was dating a woman who was deaf.

One evening we were all in my apartment and the 'blinds' (shutters) were closed and the curtains drawn.

Suddenly my friend's girlfriend stood up and said it was snowing.

We all thought she was being crazy as there was no way she could have seen it and no snow was predicted.

When we opened the curtains and blinds it was snowing like mad.

It was the first snow of that year.

We asked her how she knew and she said she heard it.

I don't know what she meant by 'heard' but there is no doubt she was sensitive on some level to the changes in the climate and the precipitating weather.

That was kind of spooky yet cool.

2691) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your most hated songs... (Message 661978)
Posted 18 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Tiny Tim...and I'm not refering to Charles Dickens, A Christmas Carol, either.

You're not going to believe this, but he had a tour???? in Akron one time, & he came to the Akron Beacon Journal where I work for an interview. He stopped in a bar across the street where I was drinking after work. So I sat shoulder to shoulder with Tiny Tim drinking beer! I even got his autograph which in my smashed state, left it at the bar! Wish I had that today, but it still may not be worth much. ROFLMAO!!!!!



What a peculiar creature :o)

You sure Tiny Tim didn't actually get your autograph and you were just too smashed to remember?

I haven't seen Tiny Tim before but he's rather wonderfully odd.


No wonder you were drinking buddies! :o)~ Hehe <giggle.>


I like his "Do you think i'm Sexy" song.

The man's a dynamo disco sex pistol diva.

Let's hope you won't be doing 'Tiny Tim' karaoke for your birthday party Dune.. Otherwise we'll need to get the stretcher ready.



Having a drink with Tiny Tim. That's an absolute claim to fame.

Respect to you Dune.



There are so many peculiar creatures around here - eek - let's hide ;o)~
2692) Message boards : Politics : The Mind Of Adolf Hitler (Message 661734)
Posted 18 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...
'Germany will either be a world power or will not be at all.'

~ Adolf Hitler


It's the last one that worries me the most... ;)


The last one is a quote from Mein Kampf and was to do with Hitler's dream of a Fascist (National Socialist) Germany that expanded it's boarders to occupy other lands..

Hitler was quite the imperialist for all his pretence otherwise and like the Communists (so called) and Capitalists of the time believed in unlimited expansion.

Germany is a world power today. It's mostly a Western democratic society.

For the most part it's people are far far better off than they ever were under Hitler (or at any other point in history.)

Why would that quote by Hitler bother anyone these days?

2693) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I made you a song! (Message 661685)
Posted 18 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Brilliant Melt,

That you took the time to create something so well produced and for the SETI project is just superb in every way.

I loved your tune.

Thank you.



2694) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dune_Finkleberry’s birthday…10/19-**CLOSED** (Message 661665)
Posted 18 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
* * * Dune Finkleberry * * *


* * * You Are A Star * * *


Have A Lovely Birthday.


cRunchy.


2695) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Useless Talents - Be proud Of Them.. (Message 661613)
Posted 18 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

'ello cRunchy - how's your day comin' along . . . (funny thread btw)
SNIPs...


My day started well but I thought I'd try some spicy peanuts in my quest to improve my useless talent.

I think I might need new eyeballs.



here's a couple new ones for you



Snip...


Thanks for the new eyes. I had to wait for a friend to come around and read your post and fit them for me as I couldn't see after the spicy nuts incident.

I have another 2 useless talents from my early childhood that my Granny used to love showing off to her friends.

My Granny discovered I could hold a pen between my upper lip and nose.

I have since tried to perfect this and after a period of rain lately found a long slug (the animal variety not the bullet kind) had crept into my hallway under the front door.

I used to have to tilt my head backwards about 5 degrees to get the pen to stay on my upper lip but amazingly using a slug means I can even tilt my head 90 degrees downwards and the thing doesn't fall off.

(However - Does anyone know how to remove a slug from your upper lip?)

Second useless skill that Granny took great delight in embarassing me on is that I could roll my tummy muscles.

Every time her mates were around for tea and fruit cake I had to show my little belly and do this crazy show. Then they pinched me on the cheek and cackled lots..

I can still roll my tummy muscles but I feel quite traumatised just thinking about it...


There must be more useless tallents out there.








2696) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Useless Talents - Be proud Of Them.. (Message 659357)
Posted 13 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I can chirp like a bird. Pretty useless......


I'm waiting for the CD.

"Chirp Along With 'Finkle" sounds pretty groovy to me. :o)~



2697) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Useless Talents - Be proud Of Them.. (Message 659336)
Posted 13 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

'ello cRunchy - how's your day comin' along . . . (funny thread btw)
SNIPs...


My day started well but I thought I'd try some spicy peanuts in my quest to improve my useless talent.

I think I might need new eyeballs.



2698) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Useless Talents - Be proud Of Them.. (Message 659284)
Posted 13 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Come on people you must have a talent that has no real value :o)


I can throw a salted peanut up in the air and catch it in my eye.

I tried catching them in my mouth but my eyes always got there first.

Damn salt hurts but what the hell.

It's my useless talent and I'm proud of it.



Be proud and tell us what your useless talent is?



2699) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Old Grey Whistle Test (Message 659149)
Posted 13 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
'The Old Grey Whistle Test'

Do you remember this TV music show?

(Was this just a UK show?)


What was your favourite song or artist?


YouTube: The Old Grey Whistle Test.



One of my favourites: Robert Wyatt - Shipbuilding.


2700) Message boards : Politics : UK legislation changes (Message 658693)
Posted 13 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Who is this "we" you refer to? Do you speak for some larger group? If you are talking about these boards, you certainly don't speak for me.


Qui-Gon

You know very well your remark here was intended to provoke.

Di Atribe, as it followed Chris S' own very provacative comment, it makes my remark fair commentary. But I can tell you that my comment was not intended to provoke Chris S, but to dissent from his rude remark, "we don't want you here." In fact, I do want Rush here, just as I want Chris S and even you here. Stating a different point of view is not provacative; telling someone they are not welcome is.


Heavens forbid if I ever agree with Qui-Gon but I love to see the differences of opinions between people in these forums too.

(Being different does not necessarily mean we can not work together.)

I think I understand what Chris S might have felt as there seemed to be an arguement / battle developing in which Rush was getting heavy with Red Atomic but did not need to.

Sometimes people get carried away in a debate.

No harm done if we can get back to the original or developing issues of the thread.



2701) Message boards : Politics : Al Gore wins Nobel Peace Prize for GW (Message 658676)
Posted 12 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...

... 'Moorisms', what ever they may be.


I was wondering about what that meant too.

"Moor" (Moors, Moorish) in Euro English pertains to Muslims.

Maybe Al Gore uses 'moorisms' because he loves Muslim ideas? Why not! :o)

2702) Message boards : Politics : UK legislation changes (Message 658170)
Posted 12 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...
Opium used to be smoked openly in London ...


and was sold in every high street chemists over the counter and used by children and adults alike.

It was a taxed and legal import. Imported by the same companies that brought us products like tea.

(The Victorian's loved a good hit of smack.)

That was some time ago though.

It's still used in London. It's just hidden.

2703) Message boards : Politics : Suitable images for use in avatars...... (Message 658091)
Posted 11 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Now I got a PM saying someone has a complaint about my avatar. What's wrong with this guy?



You know in the playground when one youngster likes another they often say something horrid when in reality they wanted to say they thought you they wonderfull.

Maybe you have a secret admirer :o)~


(OOps I just noticed the PM you got was an accident.. :o)

2704) Message boards : Politics : Suitable images for use in avatars...... (Message 655952)
Posted 7 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
What does "child friendly" mean? That is the real question. It is also something that gets discussed on the moderators email list a great deal. We don't have very many hard and fast rules about this as it appears to be a work in constant progress.

The politics forum has somewhat looser rules about child friendly than other places in the forums, but it is still not anything goes.


It definitely is something to discuss, and imho in the open as well. As long as the decisions seem to be random it will never really work.

... SNIP ...


I think this is a good idea.

Moderation is not an easy task but if the mods are finding it difficult to pin down (work out) issues such as what 'child friendly' really means then maybe they should trust us and let the community define what it could mean.

We can come up with the rules - or at least we can define the issues.

After all the children that are refered to by the 'child friendly' rule actually belong to us. They are members of our communities.


2705) Message boards : Politics : Suitable images for use in avatars...... (Message 655922)
Posted 7 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I don't think this thread is really about a single deleted gun lovers thread.

(I saw that post and there were some beautifully crafted pieces of equipment in it though I personally did not like the thread (I'm not into guns.) Except for the title I can't remember anyone there being offensive or aggressive.)


I think this thread might be more about feeling safe to post without fear that your post will be deleted based upon some unspoken, inconsistent or half said rule.

When someone has power but does not tell you the rules their power becomes a weapon.

I find it threatening when my posts could be deleted at any time based upon some half known rule.

I find it strange that rules are not made whole and spoken in public.

I mean what the hell does "child friendly" really mean?


I don't think rules should be inflexible but it is nice to know what they are and that they will be implemented fairly and consistently across the board.

That way we as members can get back to doing what we do best - Enjoying each others company.



I'm with Houdi.

More consistency and less guess work can only be a good thing all around.


2706) Message boards : Politics : We want our EU Treaty referendum NOW! (Message 655621)
Posted 7 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
For the record, the US has been and afaik continues to be highly supportive of a strong EU.


This will be true until one of the oil producing countries decides to trade oil in Euros instead of Dollars.

I don't think the US would ever attack central Europe as it is today but it will obviously protect it's own commercial interests at one level or another.


War in Europe really helps no one. A strong European economy gives countries such as Australia and the US a strong trading partner other than China or Japan.


Don't worry. Europe is not going to war just yet. :o)


SNIP...
My point is that if the breaking down of the EU leads to another war in Europe it could well be viewed by outsiders as a civil war of sorts and I personally would be happy to let you fight it out amongst yourselves. I think that the US might do the same. So you could expect a long and costly war of attrition.


Civil war is not the same as war between nations.

We are not the same as America or Australia. We are many nations who have to co-exist. We are not federal states.

If it takes us longer to sort out our differences it is because we have a long unbroken lineage.

In this I envy the US and Australia.

I wish Europe could underscore it's history and just start again but I doubt that will happen.


European integration has been going on for 60 years. In an age of globalisation and emerging superpowers, when is going to be a better time for the EU?


Actually European integration has been going on for thousands of years. The ancient Greek and Roman superpowers were two early examples of this process.


2707) Message boards : Politics : Short politics quiz (Message 655613)
Posted 7 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Here's one that could be interesting to see for some of you. Get a measured profile of where you place in the political spectrum.

World's Smallest Political Quiz

For the record, I am a centrist. Though I am to the left of centre. I scored 60% personal issues and 30% economic issues.


I got 'centrist' too.

I didn't like the result so I kicked my computer screen a couple of times and it still said I was a centrist.

My screen then fell over and blew up...

That'll teach 'em for calling me a centrist.

I'm lucky my other screen is not centrist. :o)

2708) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Protest Songs (Message 655590)
Posted 7 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
How many people who wrote, sang, or produced, these "protest" songs, mainly from the 60's/70/s, actually believed what they were doing? I reckon 0.001%.

It was mostly cashing in on the hype, and earning a buck.

Go on then, prove me wrong.....



I suspect most youngsters 'believe' in what they are doing even if you or I think them wrong.


Dylan is a clear picture. Most of his early music was radical and a bit anarchistic or atheistic.

A few years ago he must have realised he was getting older because he changed his style to a definate christian ethic.

People get older and as they get older they become more conservative (small 'c')..

It's natural.

2709) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy birthday Hungover Beethoven. October 4 (Message 655223)
Posted 6 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


B e e t h o v e n



Sorry I missed your birthday Beets' but I hope you have a superb year ahead.

cRunchy
2710) Message boards : Politics : Who are you thinking of voting for? (Message 654576)
Posted 5 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
This is obviously meant to be a US thread, but for us in the UK it seems that we may be having an election ourselves before too long.

I shall vote Conservative as I always have done for over 40 years.

When I look at what the Labour party has done to our country over the last ten years, it will take 30 years to repair. Tony Blair was the worst Prime Minister in living memory, and as for his god awful wife, don't let's even go there.


Cherie Blair. Wow. I thought she was lovely :o)

She was a pyjama and floppy hair do girl.

Not exactly what conservatives want from a prime minister's wife but a street babe non the less :o)))

I love to tease you Chris :o)~


Chris I have an enourmous amount of respect for you because it is not within our culture (UK) to tell other people publically who we will vote for.

I won't be voting the same way as you but as long as I get a government that cares well for all our citizens it does not really matter as the main two parties seem to be fighting for the central ground.

I remember (in my living memory) the previous government. Conservatives held power for the 14 years prior to 'Labour'?

People were rioting in the streets over Thatcher's poll tax and her government sold off the lucrative parts of our national electricity, gas, water and postal services.

If it was not for those who faced batton charges from police on horse back we would still be paying poll tax.


I'm not going to vote for any of the main political parties this year.

I'm going to vote for 'Junior Murvin' because he is a better dresser than all the rest even though he will not be on the ballot.


2711) Message boards : Politics : We want our EU Treaty referendum NOW! (Message 654490)
Posted 5 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Hahaha... I'm laughing because I just wrote a nice little essay (for my Uni course) about the history of European integration and how far its come yada yada... The funny thing is some of you people in here haven't progressed at all from the pathetic squabbling nations that all picked sides and fought two pretty big wars.

I'm pretty happy with living in Australia and removed from all that bickering.

So... Feel free to bust up that EU thing you got goin on and get back to picking fights. I wonder who's side we'll choose. I wonder who's side the US will choose. You should wonder the same.

Like it or not the EU is the best thing that has and could ever happen to Europe. Deal with it.



The US government will side with whatever country does not support a unified Euro but it will also be diplomatic with whatever side has power or wealth.

Australians also fought in the last two world wars. There is no reason to think Aus' would not fight in the next major war given it relies on imports from many other parts of the globe. (Just as the UK does.)

Personally I want the EU to happen as long as we all have a say in how it happens and it does not over-power national values or heritages.

I do not want to have a referendum until we have included countries like Turkey.

If we are going to have a unified market then we might as well make sure we involve everyone even if some of those parties are not yet up to the "European" standard (whatever that may mean.)


However just because we differ and argue does not mean we are 'pathetic squabbling nations'...

In Europe we do not have the luxury of separating ourselves from our past.

Thousands of years of different histories weigh heavy up on us.

At least we are not shooting each other again...

... Yet ;o)





2712) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Protest Songs (Message 654450)
Posted 5 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Joan Baez - God on Our Side - 1966


Do you have a favourite 'protest song?'

It could be something recent or old and does not have to be from the 1960's.

Are 'protest songs' still valid today?

2713) Message boards : Politics : Racist Woman Runs Again (Message 654353)
Posted 5 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I have no problem trying to remove symbols of hate.

Then you might as well remove them all...

Behind every symbol there is an ideology, and for every ideology there is an opposing ideology, and for the most part, there is always strife between the two ideologies... I honestly doubt that it was the 'symbols' fault... ;)


If I said that SETI was symbolic of humanity's desire to reach and aspire to discover more than itself would that also be something we should get rid of?

Symbols are not just pictures but are complex meaning.

I think we as human's have created many symbols of hope and good.

I don't think we should destroy them just because we find it hard when it comes to deciding which bad symbols to remove.

No doubt there will be opposing ideologies as you say but a large part of being alive requires us to make choices.

If we would have accepted the symbolism of the Nazi party for example in the second world war a lot of us would not have had the joy of life.

Symbols do not need to mean anything to you or me. It is the people that believe in them that may be the problem.

A symbol of a 'noose' means nothing until you realise the people who use that symbol use it for a reason... and no one uses a symbol unless they buy into it's meaning.

Symbols do not exist without people and people are symbolic creatures.

2714) Message boards : Politics : Racist Woman Runs Again (Message 654278)
Posted 5 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... SNIP...

... You also listed other symbols than can cause offense. While I agree with you and Rush that a swastika is a symbol, it started as a symbol, may have been made solid by sculpture or other means, but is to its core a symbol; a noose is a means of killing a person, it's the original intent of a noose that it can be used for said purpose, it has been used for that purpose for years, and continues to be used for that purpose. You and Rush might think the two are equivalent, but I can't think of a reason why you would.

The issue isn't offense it's threat.


I'd like to take issue that the Swastika is not a "threat".

I understand it has a long history but symbols are only meaningfull to those who view them.

Today the Swastika has a very different meaning for vast parts of the world who were effected by the past 50 years. Those outside the west who still use the symbol as part of their cultural heritage (pre-Nazi) refered to in the wikipedia article don't even call it a Swastika or display it in the same way.

I don't know how many people have died with a noose around their neck but during the second world war at least 40 million died under the symbol of the Swastika.

For me symbols are expressions of beliefs, desires, fears or meanings. Symbols wrap up the common understandings of history and events in a picture.

I'm not saying that a Swastika symbol is more threatening than a Noose symbol - but just that both are symbols of destruction.

I do not believe there are any core symbols except for those historians who study them further. The rest of us (99.99%) live with today's meanings.

Symbols sometimes carry different weights for different cultures depending on their histories.

The "Cross" (Jesus / crusifiction) for example once was a symbol of criminality (to the Roman Empire) but now is a symbol of Christain love..

Some symbols are of hope others are of hate.

I have no problem trying to remove symbols of hate.



As to the "Racist Woman Runs Again":

I just find it odd that the thread title used the word "woman"..

A racist is a racist regardless of whether they are a woman or not.

Are we some how amazed that a woman could be a racist!

2715) Message boards : Politics : The SETI Forum diversification - CLOSED (Message 652358)
Posted 1 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
snip stuff..

Oh pooo, cRunchy,

I'm happy that you are happy. :-)
...



Happiness is a loving thing.

I wish we could be happy more often.

2716) Message boards : Politics : The SETI Forum diversification - CLOSED (Message 652272)
Posted 1 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
[If you PM me I will send you a cuddly toy.


I expect to pass through
this world but once,
Any good thing therefore
That I can do,
or any kindness
That I can show to a
Fellow human being...

Let me do it now,
Let me not defer or
Neglect it, for
I shall not pass
this way again...

And they who
hinder my aim,
they will not pass
or break my wish,
to serve and gladden
and bring a smile with joy.



I guess I might look strange to other people but your post was lovely Ice.

You made me smile.

That is the most important thing to me ever.

cRunchy
2717) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dance Yourself. (Message 652239)
Posted 1 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Pappu Sain.

This dance is ours.


2718) Message boards : Politics : The SETI Forum diversification - CLOSED (Message 652170)
Posted 1 Oct 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP..

You don't have to, ask cRunchy, he knows.

How come only a small percentage of your active team members post on your teamboard? You are family according to cRunchy, you don't welcome people to the family?




Oh poo Fuzzy. I never said my team was a family that Fuzzy could attack. I said my team was "my family"...

Please stop using me as a battering ram for your own politics.

For me my team is my family. That does not mean others will feel the same thing. Other members of TFFE treat the group in their own way.

Do you dislike my affiliations?

Please do not hammer other people because of anything I said.

It seems we (cRunchy and Fuzzy) are in some kind of battle.

I don't want to fight anymore.

The meaning of Orgil's thread is more important to me..



Regards.



Ahhhhh cRunchy, pooohhhh!

I'm happy times have changed for you, cRunchy, that you now feel you are sitting at the table. You know very well what I am talking about, I have the emails to show. :-)

Of course you can always make a new caption competition and give a t-shirt to the winner to attract people to this project and board. :-)



You are the winner Fuzzy.

I have my own table to sit at but you win and I loose.

It is OK.

I am glad you saved my e.mails. It kind of gives me a history.

The e.mails you refer to were from a very long time ago but I hope they were positive.

You are right about me. I do run competitions once in a while in my team forum.

I do it because I want to give something back to my team. Other people in the team pay for our forums. More people make my team special by just joining in

If I run a T-Shirt competition every once in a while it gives me some pleasure.

I'm not sure there is any evil intent in what I do.



Of course you can always make a new caption competition and give a t-shirt to the winner to attract people to this project and board. :-)


If you are suggesting the SETI project would benefit from a competition I think you are right.

The statistics speak for themselves.

SETI and inevitably these forums are very English speaking. They are mostly male, educated and western.

As a male, educated westerner I feel no shame.

I also feel no shame for wanting more.


Orgil gave us an excellent question.

Some will think the forums are fine as they are.

Some will want the forums to evolve.



Me... Well I have never been quoted by so many in a thread before.

I don't think I am worthy but thank you anyway Fuzzy n people.

If you PM me I will send you a cuddly toy.

2719) Message boards : Politics : The SETI Forum diversification - CLOSED (Message 651780)
Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP..

You don't have to, ask cRunchy, he knows.

How come only a small percentage of your active team members post on your teamboard? You are family according to cRunchy, you don't welcome people to the family?




Oh poo Fuzzy. I never said my team was a family that Fuzzy could attack. I said my team was "my family"...

Please stop using me as a battering ram for your own politics.

For me my team is my family. That does not mean others will feel the same thing. Other members of TFFE treat the group in their own way.

Do you dislike my affiliations?

Please do not hammer other people because of anything I said.

It seems we (cRunchy and Fuzzy) are in some kind of battle.

I don't want to fight anymore.

The meaning of Orgil's thread is more important to me..



Regards.
2720) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Coming To A Season Near You - UK (Message 651434)
Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
It's coming up to cold, flu and achoo season..

It is deceptively pleasant here in the Midlands (UK) at the moment but it is only 6 weeks or so until the snotty nosed and sneezing season...

Are you ready!

Catch a cold with me.


2721) Message boards : Politics : The SETI Forum diversification - CLOSED (Message 651390)
Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

... SNIPs ...

PS. I will start a thread on my team board asking who is Indian just for you Fuzzy.


I remember him cRunchy... although I am not surprised you don't. He only made 72 posts and I don't think you were posting on seti at the time. .

Praphul Sen Ugrasenan

I kinda feel sorry for the guy..posts here for a short while and suddenly he is the seti token Indian guy. Just shows how few people there must be posting here who are from India.


Esme you are correct.

I took quite a long time away from posting last year.

Praphul's last post was in October 2006.

I don't know if this is the person Fuzzy meant.

I sometimes wonder how women members and moderators feel given they are the minority here. I suspect people who do not fit the white / euro / US average feel similar.

Pressure to perform is not good.




2722) Message boards : Politics : The SETI Forum diversification - CLOSED (Message 651376)
Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Why don't we have more participants from India?
...

Yes, I'd like to see a lot more Seti friends from India posting here! :))


How about taking care of the Indians who're here already, to make them feel welcome?

I asked cRunchy earlier in this thread about what happened to that Indian guy who are in his own team, and he didn't even know the guy! He didn't even know there's an Indian guy in his team!


This is so sad of you Fuzzy.

I admit I am a poor creature.

I have aways tried to speak well on the SETI forums but do you know who I am?

Do you know my ethnic background Fuzzy?

I guess I should tell you now so that you do not keep using me as a punch bag:

I don't care what the cultural background is of any of my team members.

They are my family.

My team is my starting point. I accept them regardless.

If you want to harp on and on in public that I do not know the 'Indian' person you so lovingly refer to well... So what!

We are not talking about the person you refer to.

I thought this thread was about being inclusive of cultures and populations and not some individual.

Beethoven has offered us an oppourtunity for us to promote the project.

I suggest we focus upon that.

PS. I will start a thread on my team board asking who is Indian just for you Fuzzy.
2723) Message boards : Politics : The SETI Forum diversification - CLOSED (Message 651363)
Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


I suspect the words "SETI Forum" are a mod magnet.


Sometimes the word cRunchy works just as well. :D



Yea. OK. So. and your head looks like a turnip :o)~


I thought cRunchy was lovable...

maybe I should tell him off for being naughty?


2724) Message boards : Politics : The SETI Forum diversification - CLOSED (Message 651357)
Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... SNIP...
SETI = Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence. It does not mean Social Economic Telecommunications with Individuals.
...


If some alien arrived on earth I suspect their technology would be so far in advance of us that the only level they would be able to communicate with us on is at the social level.

Imagine you lived in ancient egypt and some one turned up in a helicopter.. You might be interested but in the end it will only ever be the social interaction that matters.

You might learn to fly the machine but that has nothing to do with science.

... and to be naughty:

So much for the accusation that the mods only post in "their own" threads. ;)


Individuals can post anywhere but "mods" should post related to their duties...

If 5 police officers turned up on your door just to tell you your dog was barking too loud I am sure you would think it quite strange!

If you are suggesting mods are the same as any other poster that is fine by me. I will simply disregard anything they say in the future and take my chances.

I doubt you really mean that...

I suspect the words "SETI Forum" are a mod magnet.




(Good needs no advocate.)
2725) Message boards : Politics : The SETI Forum diversification - CLOSED (Message 651341)
Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Ozz,

I Sniped everything because I am not going to get into a war with the moderators.

I simply believe Orgil is correct in asking where the non-euro or english speaking people are.

My primary language is English so I did not assume he meant anything to do with language but more to do with the idea of 'diversification'.

All I have seen so far is that mods are more concerned with self protection.

Personally I don't care.

Risk in life means we don't have to argue. It just requires our attention.

SETI would not exist if it's founders had not taken a risk.

You would not have had my WUs without me leaving my PC on for 24 hours a day even though it provides me with no mathmatical or scientific value to do so.

Why do you think I run my PCs into the ground yet have no scientific bussiness repayment for doing so?

Orgil is absolutely correct to ask his questions.

As a forum we should support this.

I am gob-smacked that so many mods have turned up..

Wow.



2726) Message boards : Politics : The SETI Forum diversification - CLOSED (Message 651332)
Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... SNIP...

it's not SETI@Home's fault nor is it their responsibility to find people for you to talk to. They are in the science business, not the social networking business.

Ozz it is sad that as a mod you treat the project in such a sterile way.

I guess I come from a different social and scientific background...



Sterile as in neutral and unbiased? Yep, that's what everyone wants from a mod.

..SNIP..


No. Sterile as in a mod that thinks that SETI is just about crunching numbers and not about social activity or value.

Quote: "... They are in the science business, not the social networking business. ..."

I never assumed sterile meant 'neutral and unbiased'.. Do you really believe sterile means this?



It's quite funny that so many moderators have congregated in this thread.

Why so many Mods?

There was not attack on SETI.. Just a question..

Why so many troops when all that was needed was a recognition of the lack in our diversification.

Maybe if 30 mods joined in this thread the problem might be solved nay?

@ John McLeod VII

Us, inclusive, all of the crunchers and other supporters of S@H. If you (any of you) can think of something that would help increase usage worldwide that does not involve much moderator time, I am certain that it would be appreciated.


So far all I have seen is people blaming those who may have never even heard or stopped to think about SETI for their lack of involvement.

The first issue in promoting a project for me is recognising that others are not to blame for our lack of promotion.

I am not sure I see enthusiasm.

I see a lot of mods telling me the system is perfect already or it is other peoples problems..

I don't see mods here believing that SETI is a project of hope.

Such negativity amongst us :o(


Does SETI have a clear set of recent statistics? (Current & active users, computers, countries, etc..?)
2727) Message boards : Politics : The SETI Forum diversification - CLOSED (Message 651300)
Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... SNIP...

it's not SETI@Home's fault nor is it their responsibility to find people for you to talk to. They are in the science business, not the social networking business.



Ozz it is sad that as a mod you treat the project in such a sterile way.

I guess I come from a different social and scientific background...

I thought SETI was a project aimed at providing benefit to the world rather than just crunching some raw and impersonal numbers!

I assumed that without a social network we would never (SETI would never) have had a network of computers in our homes to use!

I would not be crunching if it was not for the social value.. Would you be?


In this sense it is a major question:

Is SETI just a project that simply deals with maths or is it a project about the hopes and aspirations of those who wish to look outwards in discovery?




My guess is that SETI is an aspirational project embrassing the best of human hopes.

In this mindset it is pretty silly not to search for ways to include other people from around the world. (Though I can see many excuses for not even trying..)

For me I just think it a worthy question to ask why there are so few (statistically) non white people involved.

Denials aside the SETI project does not do so well in involving non-english speaking or non-euro-origin people. Fact!

I can say "ye numuk haraam hai" but I need to say it in phonetic roman even though the words should be written in a form of Arabic script (Urdu)...

... If I was a native speaker of a language that did not use euro-roman text how could I speak on these boards?

Personally I think the arguement about "english" is a sideline issue..

I think the question of 'diversification' is worth asking.

It does not need us to run to protect SETI.

It needs us to think of ways in which we can promote the project more widely!


(Why such negativity amongst us?)
2728) Message boards : Politics : The SETI Forum diversification - CLOSED (Message 651162)
Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

...
Though what does amaze me for example is the massive growth of computer usage in India yet so few people in India are involved in SETI.

I am not sure what we can do about it.
...


I remember a guy from India who were quite active in the Cafe, he was nice. He joined your team, by the way. He suddenly stopped posting, what became of him? Have you heard from him?


I have no idea Fuzzy! (If you remember his name please let me know.)

I think given there are 900+ million in India and a rapidly expanding middle class and a high level of computer education one single individual that may or may not have joined my team is small fry related to the topic.

What do you think Fuzzy?

How many Indian, African, Chinese people join in or crunch in comparison to Europe or the US?

I think the only people to blame are those that own or support the project.


(No one should ever be dismissed with a word.)
2729) Message boards : Politics : Protests in Myanmar (Burma) (Message 651147)
Posted 29 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... SNIP ...
Altruism doesn't really mean 'concern for others'. It does contain the element of 'selflessness' though. I'm speaking from the point of view of altruism vs egoism as a philsophic/ethical basis for discussion.

I couldn't disagree more with your definition of hero. I've never met, heard of, or can even imagine ANY hero being 'selfless'. Not in a million years. Those that are capable of being heroic in ANY fashion or field of endeavor must possess certain rational selfish characteristics within their soul. A totally 'selfless' person is one that you might find in the morgue somewhere. He has no concern for himself, no values, no ambitions, no thoughts, no ideals, no goals, nothing.


No human is selfless but if you ran out to save a child who walked in front of a car you too would be selfless as an individual - you would forget yourself.

A hero is not someone we honour but someone that simply acts within their own self. (It is a completely self owned moment and totally selfish yet at that moment selfless.)

My heroes and heroins do not have to be famous. They are just people who risked or gave of themselves and benefited others.

We can all read Nietzsche or philosophise forever no doubt but philosophy is just fasion and not life.


Perhaps you'd like to visit my 'Have you been a HERO today' thread I created about a week ago for more on how my definition of a hero differs from yours? Clearly we're not on the same page...and probably not in the same book either. I enjoy the convo though.


It's your thread.

If I don't understand you then either I am impossible or you used a 'subject' that did not comply with your underlying meaning.

I see the subject of 'Burma' yet the original post looked like an attack on anyone that might want to join in on the topical meaning of the thread.



(For me being anarchistic does not mean being exclusive.)
2730) Message boards : Politics : The SETI Forum diversification - CLOSED (Message 651109)
Posted 29 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
When you see the Seti statistics you'll find amazing over 220 world nationals participation which proves Seti as a first true international project.

But in this main Seti forum we see less than 10 nationals daily.

Could current forumers and Seti officials do something about to make those hidden members voices to be heard?!

... SNIP ...


Orgil,

I support you on this.

The majority of it's crunchers and supporters are western from very few societies.

I am not sure this is all SETI's fault but more historic, ecconomic and cultural.

Though what does amaze me for example is the massive growth of computer usage in India yet so few people in India are involved in SETI.

I am not sure what we can do about it.

At this level SETI can not really call itself a project for humanity.

It is a Western technological adventure and every culture has the right to adventure but...

... it would be nice to crunch alongside (and meet) a broader range of people from across the world.

2731) Message boards : Politics : Protests in Myanmar (Burma) (Message 651067)
Posted 29 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I find no shame in wanting to raise other people's quality of life to at least my own.


The problem is that we have too many people and not enough resources to raise everyone up, and the people at the top refuse to come down... Of course, they don't mind stealing from some to enhance others, which only achieves a false perception of balance... ;)


It is true that 10% of the world own 90% of the capital.

Yet it is also true that 99% of the produce of the world is made or extracted by the hands of that other disenfranchised 90%.

It doesn't require the people at the top to lower their usage of materials. In the west the people at the top actually use very few more resources.. (Most rich people don't eat any more meals than anyone else in the West..)

They own power and power like money is simply a collateral device.

If anything the people at the top need to give up their control and power over resources so those resources can be better targetted.

I don't know about the rest of the world but in the UK we have a population that is slowly diminishing. This is probably true across the western world.

Seems to me either that white european decendants are genetically on their way out or (and more likely) that western standards of living are better suited to control populations.

If populations are growing elsewhere in the world and we know ecconomic and civil freedom in our own societies create moderated birth rates there can only be one way to go.... Create more ecconomic success and political freedoms for all people around the world.

I agree those with wealth create a false sense of balance but it is like having a thorn in your side... It hurts but you press on.

I guess the situation in Burma and Zimbabwe (et al) tend to remind us on a personal level how powerless we are as individuals to help others.



(PS: I am not suggesting the Euro or US model is the standard but just that people have a right to feel safe, be fed and enjoy oppourtunity.)
2732) Message boards : Politics : Protests in Myanmar (Burma) (Message 651025)
Posted 29 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
43 year old military dictatorship hauls away protesting monks after raiding monestaries and quelling marches. Attempts to cut off internet. Expels all foreign journalists.

I expect to see alot of support for this Junta since so many posters seem to be enamored of the use of government force on the citizenry in their own home countries......

.....errr....wait. Perhaps those people choose to believe initiation of force is ok when it's for causes THEY agree with but not ok when it's done for causes OTHER people agree with.

.. SNIP...


If I read what you are suggesting correctly 'R/B' then you are saying that we should not be so 'two faced'?

That we should not ask our society to fight for outsiders when we do not ask for change within our own countries.

If this is what you are saying then I agree with you.

However I believe I have every right to want other people to have at least the basic rights, oppourtunities and material benefits I have.

On this level I can accept my society is not perfect (far from it) but that we are all involved in social evolution.

I find no shame in wanting to raise other people's quality of life to at least my own.

On the other side of this or other world problems I would never want to send in the armed forces. (Our soldiers are there to protect us not to solve world problems.)

However I do think it a good thing that people stand up and be counted and make vocal their support for people without power.


As to:
Bloody altruists.

    Unselfish concern for the welfare of others; selflessness.

    Cooperative behavior that is detrimental to the individual but contributes to the survival of the species.



I doubt anyone is that selfless but our greatest people and our heros are made of such stuff.

2733) Message boards : Politics : Zimbabwe - A Dying State? (Message 646985)
Posted 23 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...

Too bad those on these forums that describe themselves as 'human activists'...and 'feminists' don't contribute....seems the 'socialism ' takes a front seat to actual human life.



I do not understand what 'feminists', 'socialists' or 'human activists' have to do with the issues in Zimbabwe.

I believe this world belongs to me and you and that no one needs to be partisan to want it to be safe for all of us.

If we value something it is up to us to nurture or protect it. There are no socialists, feminists or righteous people waiting around the corner to die for us first..

There is just us.

Kind of scarey hey.


Mugabe is filth and he should go away and let the people of Zimbabwe flourish..



2734) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What do you collect ? (Message 646620)
Posted 22 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
What do you collect ?
I collect bells.
:)


I have a small trinket box on my table and I collect dreams.

Not just my dreams but anyone's.

I add dreams, hopes and fears.

I write them down as small as I can on itsy bitsy pieces of paper and put them in my little frosted glass box.

I look in the box every now and then and after some time I can not even remember where the ideas came from.

I find it nice because after a while all these different thoughts become mine.

I collect other things too but this little box of mine is the most priceless thing I have.





.
2735) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What do you collect ? (Message 646615)
Posted 22 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I've recently installed a newer version of humor 4.8...along with the extra 'cuteness package 3.2.

It works wonders.

Ooooohhhh...where can I download the extra cuteness package?


I have the 3.2 cuteness package but don't have a copy of 'humour' to run it on.

I'll do a swap.


2736) Message boards : Politics : Zimbabwe - A Dying State? (Message 646179)
Posted 21 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I hoped there was one underlying concept to my post that I thought was universally understood:

My post is about Zimbabwe today and not about peoples memories of Rhodesia 25 years ago when white people had imperial control.

My post already understood the many white people had suffered and it also understood the many more black people had also suffered.



I don't care about colour or history.

I only care about stability and fellowship here and now.


Inflation in Zimbabwe is soaring: If you want to buy medicines today they might cost $10 but tommorow they will cost you $11 and $12 the day after.... etc ....

80% of the population has no formal work.

Rhodesia no longer exists. Zimbabwe is now.

Zimbabwe is not unique as a damaged society but in Africa it could if nurtured become a force that helps Africa.

As a stable society it could even lessens the West's financial responsibility. (If nothing else that might be worth considering.)

I know there are many around the Western world that want to keep Africa as a poor child that we give a few grains of bread to... but... why?


I just wonder if as a world we don't care about 'Zimbabwe' or other African nations because we have invested our hopes (finances) in "South Africa" and no longer care!







2737) Message boards : Politics : Zimbabwe - A Dying State? (Message 646002)
Posted 21 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Is it time to crush the Mugabe government?

If we pump in charitable cash will it help the people or just be subverted to support the government and it's cronies.

Is 'Gordon Brown' (UK Prime Minister) right to make a stand and refuse to go to any African sumit that Robert Mugabe joins in.

The Mugabe government has (just) started to talk about power sharing. - Is this enough or a desperate cry from a dying state?

Zimbabwe could be one of he wealthiest nations in Africa, a beacon and a stabilising force yet for a quarter of a centuary has been dying.

Is Zimbabwe dead but just doesn't realise it yet?


How can we as ordinary people from around the world help it die so that it's people can stop suffering and start to build something better without some war-lord like Mugabe.

2738) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 100 miles............ (Message 645818)
Posted 21 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

El Salvador
SNIP...


I love this song simply because it is up front and hides nothing.

Quite brave of them.

2739) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Australian Drought (Message 645723)
Posted 21 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The beginnings of this drought in Australia go back to 2002 or 03 I believe though were not taken seriously until 2006 even by Australians themselves?

Australia has a massive fuel usage and heavy co2 emisions which are right up there with high population countries like the USA, Japan and the Uk and Europe even though it has just a fraction of the population of the USA and a lot more warmth than most of Europe. (Population: 21 million?)

Wasn't Australia also one of the countries that refused to limit it's fuel usages / emmisions to control climate effects under the Kyoto accord?

Sounds like a mess to me.

How long can Australia's hydro-electric plants keep functioning for?

How far is Australia away from not having sufficient drinking or cooking water?

2740) Message boards : Cafe SETI : To be, or not to be? the SETI Forums (Message 645546)
Posted 21 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
First of all I do not think the community aspect of these forums will ever be taken down regardless of their problems.

The current arguements, personality differences or problems in the cafe are nothing in comparison to what has gone on before.

What matters is that people are involved and have a chance to speak, be heard and respond and that they can do this amongst people who want to make friends even if just briefly across the wires.

Berkeley / SETI gave us the oppourtunity to have a community space.

It's up to us to make it special.

I never met a community or family without it's wild, strange or difficult members.

I don't think I would want it any other way.

I won't say the SETI forums are perfect but as long as the "SETI staff" (as you call them) are flexible to the dynamics of 'our' community and the majority of the community remain well meaning I really don't care.

I'm not sure though how we can ask a community of people that crunch for SETI (an aspirational science project) not to give their opinions or argue their thoughts - Sounds odd to me :o)~

If you are simply asking for a 'yes' or 'no'... Then 'yes'.. Keep the forums alive.



Does anyone remember the WordWeaver experience here on SETI? - Now that was a hard time :o(
2741) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dyslexics discrimated by SETI (Message 645427)
Posted 21 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Certain forums now sanctioned by Seti that intentionally perplex dyslexics and therefore refuse to allow them to participate in what is a free and open forum.

This has been done in order to laugh at certain disabilities among a certain population and I request humbly that you all ask it to stop.


It would be nice to see an example or reference for this behaiviour rather than just an accusation.

How and where are SETI sanctioned forums 'intentionally perplex-ing dyslexics'?

Are they deleting posts that are written by dyslexic people or are they producing websites or serving texts that are not understandable or capable of being read by a screen readers (text to voice software)?

Or are you suggeting certain members of those forums are the culprits?


2742) Message boards : Cafe SETI : As a man thinkth:so he is ( ? ) (Message 643681)
Posted 18 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
A lie is running around while truth is putting on its pants



For me truth has no clothes.
Lies are a poor attempt to clothe our selves in false truthes.
Both are naked but one is ashamed to be so.


For me truth and honesty are different parts.
Truth is how we calculate the universe, numbers and artifacts.
Honesty is an aspiration towards being truely warm and human.


For me truth is something to be discovered.
Honesty is something to be lived with all our hearts.
Lies tell us why we are not worthy of hearing the honest truth.


For me truth is priceless.
Honesty is worth more.
Our lies betray us all.


For me.
We can never know the truth.
Just try and discover the best of ourselves.


2743) Message boards : Cafe SETI : If you could go back and (Message 641185)
Posted 14 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
If ... I would move to the bush as soon as I was old enough to.
I'm there now but so many years wasted in the city. :(

You look like J.E.B. Stuart


You mean you have never met 'Jeb Stretton' before!




2744) Message boards : Cafe SETI : If you could go back and (Message 640961)
Posted 14 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
If you could go back and do it all over again
What would you change if you could change anything?

snip..


I would not change time or events but I would like to take back one thought or emotion.

I would like to start over knowing that most people on average in our world do not think us bad even if we make a few mistakes.

I would like to have never feared taking chances and joining in.

I would like to go back and make 'trust' happen earlier in my life.


What about you 'Angel? What would you like to go back and change?

2745) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Famous quotes (Message 640685)
Posted 14 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
“To forgive is to set a prisoner free and discover that the prisoner was you.”

~Lewis B. Smedes


Wow.

I never saw anything by Lewis B. Smedes before now.

He seems an excellent thinker and humanitarian ...

Such a lovely quote MrGray.


2746) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time for a Roast? Peacefully Closed (Message 640656)
Posted 14 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Somebody stretched a thread to Kingdom Come last night..twice!
That's a bannable offence around here! Always has been.
Is it time for a roast?

Blame Misfit! LOL





+

Let me put it this way:

Approve? Disapprove?


I can't seem to find the thread n images now so can not respond directly either way.

I have in the past linked an image or two and people have been kind enough to PM me to say they looked 'MaSSive' on their screens. I simply copied and reduced the images and all was well.

If we are going to complain about peoples actions we need to give direct evidence or names and content.

Sadly because posts get deleted or hidden all-together rather than shifted to an 'under review' folder no one that was not around can truely respond to your question.

Sometimes I review the SETI forum off my old PDA or Palm mobile phone... on these even images over 160 pixels wide look ultra massive to me.

On a similar-ish point - I'm a vegetarian and find photos of dead roasted creatures more problematic than someone who might test out the pixel width of SETI forum script.

I have to live with both - though whilst an extra wide image is just deleted I seem to have to keep viewing slaughtered cooked creatures on SETI without anyone ever saying a word.

However I won't complain about images of slaughtered and cooked animals because it is what my fellow people do.

People also post extra wide images sometimes for many reasons good, bad or just erroneous.


What I am saying is that I often have to put up with images that do not make me feel good but I accept they are from people who I would rather have in our community than reprimand.

One or two posts of extra wide images are nothing..

The most it needs is a word with the people / person involved....

... or a thread title that just talked about acceptable image widths so we (and all new posters) could all just join in and find common ground.


.. and here was me looking at a roast thread because I thought someone was going to offer a good receipe for honey'd parsnips or something...

Sorry :o)~
2747) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 9/11/07 (Message 638674)
Posted 11 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
May they rest in peace.

YES, PLEASE let them REST IN PEACE for a change... ;)

And stop using them as a propaganda tool...

For the Western world it was the “Perfect Storm” of religion, politics and economics.
Like it or not, those 3000 souls will be propaganda fodder forevermore.



But not here and not today and not from us!

We know the politics but we do not have to take away the honour for those victims and heroes that died on this day and for all those whose lives have forever been hurt and changed every day since.

It is to those that live with the loss of loved ones that today should also be honoured.

It is because of those that continue to strive hard to make the world safer that every day is special.

There is no shame in remembering even a single life taken that should not have been lost. There is no shame in supporting those who have lost loved ones.

I can argue the politics any other day in the year but today is not just any other day to those who live with their loss.


My warmth and thoughts go to those who lost their loved ones on 9/11 and to those brave souls that gave of themselves to help their fellow people.



2748) Message boards : Cafe SETI : robert kinkead is UOTD @ SETI - Sept 08 2007 (Message 637121)
Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

R O B E R T


Well done Bob.




2749) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Heroes (Message 637084)
Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Looks like most people here have identified with the unsung heros doing their bits in society.

Good


Heros (male, female or otherwise) only need to inspires us (they make us know we can be better or do more.)

There are many more heros that do not just inspire us but risk everything without a single thought for themselves.

The 11th of September is coming and I know for many in America they will never forget the heroic acts of a few that risked their lives for many.

I also know that where-ever their is life in this world, regardless of country, belief or value, there will always be a few superb people that go one step further to try and make the world better.



I'd like to thank MrGray for creating his lists of out-standing moments in our history.
2750) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Pavarotti died... (Message 637024)
Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
One of my favourite videos of Pavarotti is him singing "Ave Maria" along-side Dolores O'Riordan of the Cranberries.

I always prefered him when he was a little bit more popularist than classic.

I never liked opera much but sometimes he sang in a way that did not need words.


I'll miss the dulcet voice of Pavarotti.



(PS: If you look close at the video you can also see Princess Diana and her chum in the front row at the end..)
2751) Message boards : Cafe SETI : HEY MY SETI IS BACK UP ! (Message 637007)
Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
My seti just came back on yeah ! :) I think they fixed it . :) AI

i HAVE WORK OH GOODIE ITS RUNNING WILD ;)




I'm still waiting after 3 odd days and nothing to crunch.

Must be because you are an angel :o)



2752) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Heroes (Message 633718)
Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I have a heroin,

She is not famous or in the books but she is as special to the people she effects as anyone could be.

I'd like to introduce you to old 'Joyce' my neighbour:

Almost everyday she is out on the street and goes knocking on people's doors until she gets an answer.

She knocks on the doors of people who are ill, those who are old or those who are in need.

She is a lonely old soul but she shares herself without shame.

When you stop her in the street she always lets you know you are special to her because it is a joy to her that you simply stoped to talk to her..

I can't think of a better hero than someone who has nothing in special terms but gives people they meet so much more.

Joyce is one of my heros for doing nothing more than sharing herself freely with hope with people in my community.



2753) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 9000 th Post - wOOt (Message 633700)
Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
and to think - that's NOT 'all of 'em'


Gosh you seem to have had a lot to say :o)

May you keep saying it for the next 9000 and beyond.


So Cool.


2754) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time Travel (Message 630940)
Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
erm. may be a spanner in the works will help.

What if time itself did not exist?

I see matter occupying space and I see space that matter could occupy but time is just a measure of regular movement of matter through space.

If time did not exist then no matter what any egg-head said you could never move through time except to arrive here.

What if the big bang was still happening and you did not realise it.

What if we just stopped asking questions because the answers were already known.

I don't cook my pizza based upon time. I cook it based upon the change of molecules and it's slightly less than burntness.


Time does not exist... and that's why you can't travel through it!!



2755) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UK People. Can You Help? (Message 630764)
Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Equipment Needed.
===================

I have a friend in 'Nuneaton' (Midlands. UK) who works with people with "special needs" (folks that can not operate so well in this world.)

He teaches them IT (Information Technology), gives them friendship and shares ways to join in our society.

He has got them to the position where they can do work at home but his students don't have a simple way of copying their work and bringing it back to school.

If any of you out there have any older CF, SD, MS data cards (below 128MB etc) or older USB card readers that you no longer need would you like to donate them?


PM me if you have something to give and I will let you know my friend's address.


I have a private contract with him: "Everything I give is a gift to him for the benefit of his students... Nothing I give will cost him."

This must be the principle of your gift.


They are not asking for money... just the tools to make their lives better.

Can you help?



2756) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I'm a kitty cat (Message 630401)
Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
(joke...)

Do you have problems with mice...? Our kittys was trained with the US NAVY SEALS...

Try to hire one of our young kitten... And your problem are solved...

Call us to 999.99.99...



That is such a cute hit-kitty.

Reminds me of the movie Léon.



Does it cuddle or just shoot?





2757) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I'm a kitty cat (Message 630372)
Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Huh? What? How the heck did I get in this thread?


Maybe you are a wandering pussy cat!


2758) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I'm a kitty cat (Message 630368)
Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I suppose the kitty cats commanded them to keep the thread alive ;)


You gotta watch those kitty cats. Some are just plain evil....




You are all so horrid to pussy cats :o)

All they do is walk around like they were the king or queen of the world, go exploring , keep you up waiting and go eating crawly things. ...

... then they come home and sit on your lap and give you a fish smelling kiss with their slim lips with a big spider's leg hanging out one side and still twitching.

Pussy cats are so strange.



2759) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why are.. (Message 629952)
Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Wow, I am amazed how nothing was made in to something. It originally said, "Why are Americans so lazy and fat and stupid?". But I deemed it to be maybe offensive, so I tried deleting it, with no avail. Discuss amongst yourselves.


Odd one this but one of the thinnest men on record is Isaac Sprague. He was born in Massachusetts 1841. Fully grown he was 5 1/2 feet tall but weighed just 43 pounds.

He joined the circus and went on to marry the local 'Fat Lady'..

America is a country of contrasts.. nay!


Isaac Sprague







2760) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Nostalgia (Message 627233)
Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Makes you think doesn't it?

BTW peeps, please don't use this as an opportunity to bring up "old scores" this has been meant as a "reflective" look back at the way things were 3 years ago. Whether that has any relevance to today, well I'm not sure....


I don't know how to be 3 years ago but I do know how to sit and enjoy a cup of coffee with good people.

Nobody needs to be alone here.

A cafe is made special by the people that enter it - not by those that own the shop.

Now where's my coffee?



2761) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Oh no i've sold my soul for nothing again. (Message 627203)
Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Well, I don't hold out much hope for Crunchy, seeing as nobody can spell anyone that he might need to see.



I smell badly.

It's part of my charm.

Don't worry though because I don't mind needing to see.


Just feeling people is enough.


2762) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Oh no i've sold my soul for nothing again. (Message 627190)
Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...
Ice's shorts are disturbing. :)

And his bikinis are a punishable offense! :)



I wish you had not mentioned his bikini.

I think I might have to go and see an optometrist.



......


Sorry. I was just dazzled by Ice's pants.

I meant a phsychiatrist..





2763) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Oh no i've sold my soul for nothing again. (Message 627181)
Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...
Ice's shorts are disturbing. :)

And his bikinis are a punishable offense! :)



I wish you had not mentioned his bikini.

I think I might have to go and see an optometrist.





2764) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Oh no i've sold my soul for nothing again. (Message 627099)
Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...

Ha ha, eat my shorts ;)


I can't think of anything more disturbing than eating your shorts.

Do they come with gravy?



2765) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 1st Annual BOINCers Picnic in the Park (Message 626768)
Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... "Vegetable Melange" ...



Sounds like you all had a day to remember even if wet.

Excellent work for getting people together Pawly.

Well done.


As a veggie I'd like a copy of your "Vegetable Melange" recipe.

Hope to see the photos soon.



2766) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Please Help This Child (Message 625740)
Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


I already have a charity up an running called 'firststep'.. It exists without financial donations..(it's based upon the hopes, effort and work of qualified professionals that want the chance to give something back to their community..)




Tell us more about firststep.


Not sure what I can say. It is a very small project based upon an idea I had and made possible by educated friends and young people who just wanted to know more.

You can PM me if you like.




2767) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Please Help This Child (Message 625718)
Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I would think that if it were to occur in three short days, it should be someone well-versed in using PayPal for making and receiving payments. And it still has to be someone trustworthy.


Your question is correct but since you are the only one responding I guess the idea doesn't have much support.

I already have a charity up an running called 'firststep'.. It exists without financial donations..(it's based upon the hopes, effort and work of qualified professionals that want the chance to give something back to their community..)

I don't want to be in control of anything else.

I just thought that as SETI members we could make our presence known if we wanted to.


2768) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Please Help This Child (Message 625656)
Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
So, which trustworthy person/people could deal with the donations idea mentioned by cRunchy?

You.


Then I'd have to do it all in three days.


That's OK. 3 days are enough.

By the way I was serious.

It doesn't matter who is in control. All that matters is that we matter.


It was just a thought.
2769) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Please Help This Child (Message 625632)
Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
So, which trustworthy person/people could deal with the donations idea mentioned by cRunchy?


You.
2770) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Please Help This Child (Message 625601)
Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/08/23/iraq.boyfolo/index.html

What more can I say?


We can not change the world for those that suffer but we can try and make what we do in our own lives worth something of value.


This gives me a thought.

Can we as SETI members work out a system to donate a few dollars to people in need?

I mean, is there some way in which we could create an account (paypal would be easiest) and give to people who needed our help?



2771) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Space Question (Message 625402)
Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Wasn't there a proposal in the 1950's to send a ship to Mars by usings small atomic bombs as a propellant?


The previous comment made by CRUNCHY about thrust levels is all too true, we need better technology and MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE of if.


I think 'jim little' made that comment. It was not me. (Though I wish I had.)


2772) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Spiders (Message 625376)
Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Oh my god.

I just had a little spider run across my desk.

It was titchy (about the size of my thumbnail) but I've never seen something so small move so fast.

I think I scared it off but it scared me more...


I hate spiders

They tickle when they scurry across my hand..

eek..
2773) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 30 (Message 625364)
Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Oh pooty..

Im not supposed to be here in this thread because I don't have a number but if I wanted to give you folks a song would I be wrong?

I love Nelly Furtado so here's a song from her to you:

Forca




I wish she was just a bird again.


It was nice when she wanted to be a bird.

My song gift however was more mundane and rather working class.

Forca. Portuguese. The force. Nutyness.

Unwrap at your leisure.
2774) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 30 (Message 625329)
Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Oh pooty..

Im not supposed to be here in this thread because I don't have a number but if I wanted to give you folks a song would I be wrong?

I love Nelly Furtado so here's a song from her to you:

Forca


2775) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Space Question (Message 625288)
Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Hi Everyone.

A question for you:

Do you think that we will have a base on the Moon & travel to Mars in our lifetimes?

Comments please.


The only things we loose in an ecconomic cycle are the few grains of wheat that are turned into bread, our labour, or the chemicals we use and burn as fuel.

A loaf of bread costs us 1 or 2 dollars but only a fraction of that cost is truely lost. 90 percent is recovered through tax, jobs, benefits or otherwise.

If we spent 16 billion trying to reach Mars then 15.9 billion will pay for jobs.

If I had the choice between being rich or extending our will out to the planets I would rather send people exploring.

If someone was making a list of people willing to venture out across our solar system I would happily add my name.

If someone asked me if I would prefer going to Mars or feeding the poor in this world I would prefer feeding the hungry.


I doubt in my lifetime we will see a base upon either the moon or on Mars.

I would love it if we could but I think we have a lot to sort out at home here on earth first.


2776) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ice's Photo Shots - warning, bigger files here (Message 625225)
Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

...



I love this photo.. it's like peeking in on the secret garden.


but hold on.. she has 5 fingers...

2777) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A poem (Message 625183)
Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I was thinking about things then it struck me that we could write a community poem if we wanted.

I started one below.

My title or words are not important so change them as you wish but the theme is related to "SETI" and the concept of the human search for life and meaning..

You don't need to keep my words. They are just a starting point.


Always Here

If I could say something that meant you raised an eyebrow
If I could be so powerful

If I could reach out across a thousand miles of cable
If I could let you know that today of all days you were here and I heard you

If I could crunch another unit and find that star around which life expands
If I could stand for something special

I would want to stand beside you and look out towards the universe
I would want to know that we searched the skies together

Only then I would know the search was not in vein


We don't have to look upwards to find our best hopes



=== End of poem ===

2778) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Non-Farewell Thread (Message 625144)
Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Snips...

A broken clock is right twice per day. ...


I like this more :o)


My grandfather was a clock

maker


That's a cool saying Patrick.

2779) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Non-Farewell Thread (Message 624970)
Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... SNIP ...
"I hate that (insert yer bestest pal you've never met here) got banned, but I just have to use that red x from time to time" is pure hypocrisy.


I'm trying to understand what you are saying.

Are you saying that KenzieB (or anyone) was banned because she was Red X'ed by some of those who now offer her their best wishes?

That would be hypocrisy if it were true.

Did I misunderstand you?


2780) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Fond Farewell (Message 624948)
Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I started this thread to give an opportunity for people to say a nice goodbye to Kenzie. If its going to go off topic, I'd rather ask for it to be locked, than see it spoilt.



You are right Chris.


I'm thinking of you Kenzie / Mac.


2781) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Fond Farewell (Message 624943)
Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... SNIP...
If someone chooses to stay away after purposely breaking rules and being banned for it, then that is their decision and it should be respected. ...


Then let me be respectfully disrespectful and keep on telling KenzieB that I hope she doesn't stay away.




2782) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Fond Farewell (Message 624939)
Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Maybe. Useless to speculate?

Probably.

If she doesn't come back, she stands behind her convictions. If she does, it was just more empty rhetoric.

Kinda like most of this thread.


Or perhaps like many people here Mac just felt upset.

People do that and say many things they don't really mean.

I am one of those people who on occasion was so angry I wanted to go away from this forum forever but I faced my foolishness and stayed.

Personally I think it is a good sign of character when someone can mess up or be messed upon yet they come back to face the music.

It makes us stronger.

It makes us a family.

As to empty rhetoric: The fact I like Mac being around is not empty rhetoric at all (unless you think I'm lying.) It was and is well meant.

Everyone gets emotional at times. If they did not value something they would not care.


2783) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Fond Farewell (Message 624822)
Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Several saw what she posted, and, as Sarge said, it was, by implication, kid unfriendly.

... SNIP...

I am sorry she was banned. Her post was not that much over the line.

nota bene This thread will probably be hidden as it is dicsussing moderator action, and certainly this post is.


I am discussing what a fellow member did to get banned not the specific actions of a moderator.

Moderation as a "general" topic is an open subject.

I didn't see her last posts so can not comment about her behaiviour.

I still don't know what "kid unfriendly" means on these boards.


I just wish we did not have to loose fellow posters this way.



2784) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Fond Farewell (Message 624807)
Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
cRunchy, I will probably catch flak for this, but ... . There are one or two posts that clearly were over the line. Obviously, we cannot share those with you on the forum. For one, re-posting certain words would almost guarantee the "re-poster" getting banned as well.
However, what should be considered is what led up to it. My guess is that there were factors in her life followed by some typical issues on this forum which combined explosively.



As I said - we (me) have no way of knowing.

You won't get any flac from me.

Sometimes we overstep the boundaries. It's a natural state of life.

But I am still suprised when someone is banned for 2 weeks when a day or two would be better.

Most of us get 'arsey' (difficult) from time to time but, on average, the next day brings fresh air and turns our mood.

You don't have to repeat what Mac said, as parody will suffice, but I'm still interested in what she could have done to be grounded for 2 weeks like a child :(


2785) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Fond Farewell (Message 624786)
Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Hey KenzieB, if you get told about this post, hold you head high & return with serenity.

How about all posters putting the following at the end of every post - - - - -

BRING KenzieB BACK!!!!!!!!!!


One of the bigest problems is that when someone gets banned or a post or thread is deleted we can not see what the person said last.

Maybe a person was banned for good reason but if their post was deleted or hidden the only thing left to the rest of us is utter distaste for the behaiviour that takes away friends and fellow posters.

All we can do (as we seem to be worth very little and have no real power here) is to remember.

I'd still like to know what the hell she did?

KenzieB / Mac may be banned but she is an integral part of my world.

What made us so fearful of good people that we started to ban or hide them away?



2786) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Fond Farewell (Message 624763)
Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Can Mac still recieve PMs?

I believe so, except she won't be able to respond.


It's enough that she hears me.


2787) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Fond Farewell (Message 624745)
Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I'm sad to hear that our Kenzieb has been banned for 2 weeks. I'm even sadder to understand that apparently she will not be coming back.

She was like a breath of fresh air around here, and her posts were always worth reading, and her pictures worth looking at. I will not comment specifically on the reason for the ban, other than to say that when a nice girl like her gets driven to the end of her tether, then there is something very wrong somewhere.

I for one will miss her :-(




and her crime was?


Seems like the only value we have these days is to dump the people who make us better.

Forget being racist, sexist, vile or aggressive... just being human sometimes seems to be enough to get the attention of the people haters.

Mac, what ever they do to you don't disappear. My world is better when you are in it.


Mac we're celebrating you here in my little part of this world so don't forget for a second that you are well loved.

Can Mac still recieve PMs?



cRunchy



2788) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You As A Movie Character. (Message 624358)
Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


Captain Jack Sparrow. Rum, women, and the sea. That's the life for me.




... and a more hearty ship mate has never been seen.

Now where's that blooming monkey!


2789) Message boards : Cafe SETI : News Flash! Dogbytes is out of the hospital. Party here! (Message 624315)
Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Hey Doggy,.


My Brummy sister wanted to sing a song to you ..





I tried to stop her but she was very insistent.


For DogBytes





2790) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Translation - French (Message 624288)
Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Can anyone translate this from french to english?

Audio File - 15 Seconds - 190KB. Mp3.



(The book she holds is 'Les Fleurs Du Mal'... Flowers of Malice???)


It's a small verse at the end of the movie 'Immortel.'


(PM me if you need the video clip.)


2791) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You As A Movie Character. (Message 624238)
Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

If you could be a movie character (real or fantastic) who would you be (and why)?


Ron Jeremy,

:D


A p0rn star!

I was going to ask you why but perhaps I better not ;o)

Kinky devil.


2792) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Aloha! (Message 624202)
Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Yay! I can reply and make new threads. Hello my new friends! -ET

Cool!


Scott,

Welcome to the cafe.


Have fun here.






2793) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You As A Movie Character. (Message 624164)
Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

If you could be a movie character (real or fantastic) who would you be (and why)?


2794) Message boards : Cafe SETI : News Flash! Dogbytes is out of the hospital. Party here! (Message 624153)
Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

D o g B y t e s


I missed you.




2795) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Friendship/Loyalty (Message 623750)
Posted 21 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

SNIP...

... That's a cool gif cRunchy ;)...


Gifs are quite space hungry so it has less frames than I wanted. I just sent your gmail the full 2mb video n audio. Sorry :o))


The video is good. I enjoyed the film 300 though not as much as my older brothers were going on about it. It was interesting to note that it wasn't what they achieved on the day, but it was what they inspired later on by "standing up" that was their real success, i.e., the defeat of the overwhelming Persian armies.


I didn't actually like the film much.

I appreciated it's harsh dual lighting filmik style and that it attempted to follow the original picture script and that it was essentially a "legandary" style tale but I hated the voices.

When the narator (old lost one eye) spoke I kept remembering him playing the daft monk in 'Van Helsing' and also when the councillior to the queen (the good one) spoke I just saw him playing the Enquisitor in "The Fountain" (one of my favourite movies.)


However the movie did capture the sense of an epic legend in that it was a fantastical tale.


If Spartan law really did not allow for retreat then for them, at least, I can see how the concept of loyalty to the end would be something worth believing in.

Sadly it is the victors who write history and then bathe themselves in some revisionist illusion..

The rest of us simply have reality.

Lucky for us we have friends in the same situation to keep us company ;o)


2796) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Friendship/Loyalty (Message 623738)
Posted 21 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The Thousandth Man
Rudyard Kipling

ONE man in a thousand, Solomon says,
Will stick more close than a brother.
And it’s worth while seeking him half your days
If you find him before the other.
Nine hundred and ninety-nine depend
On what the world sees in you,
But the Thousandth Man will stand your friend
With the whole round world agin you.

’Tis neither promise nor prayer nor show
Will settle the finding for ’ee.
Nine hundred and ninety-nine of ’em go
By your looks, or your acts, or your glory.
But if he finds you and you find him,
The rest of the world don’t matter;
For the Thousandth Man will sink or swim
With you in any water.

You can use his purse with no more talk
Than he uses yours for his spendings,
And laugh and meet in your daily walk
As though there had been no lendings.
Nine hundred and ninety-nine of ’em call
For silver and gold in their dealings;
But the Thousandth Man he’s worth ’em all;
Because you can show him your feelings.

His wrong’s your wrong, and his right’s your right,
In season or out of season.
Stand up and back it in all men’s sight—
With that for your only reason!
Nine hundred and ninety-nine can’t bide
The shame or mocking or laughter,
But the Thousandth Man will stand by your side
To the gallows-foot—and after!


Lovely verse Kenzie,

Not too many people appreciate Kipling but if you can get past the fact he was a product of his time he had something to offer in the way he expressed his ideas and what he saw in people.

One of his sayings was that "fences make good neighbours" (or something similar) which whilst imperialistic, very British, Raj and typical of the NWFP walled courtyard houses (North West Frontier Province - Of now Pakistan) is probably true.

We all need our personal space and need to know where the boundaries are even if the fences we make are small and flexible.

He reminds me a little of the way Khalil Gibran writes sometimes - though far more cliped and tight.

His "The Man Who Would Be King" wasn't accurate at all though.





2797) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Friendship/Loyalty (Message 623719)
Posted 21 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...
Well, 30 stood up.



(Don't Link - Just copy the image if you want it.)

And that is worth something but if all you can have is 30 then that does limit your powers to effect change somewhat.

It only takes one person to effect change. I just helps if that person has 29 with them.



Whatever goes on in this or that forum having 29 other people to call friend or comrade is worth the world.



... That's a cool gif cRunchy ;)...


Gifs are quite space hungry so it has less frames than I wanted. I just sent your gmail the full 2mb video n audio. Sorry :o))

2798) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Friendship/Loyalty (Message 623673)
Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


I'm not sure what you are saying?

Are you suggesting the 30 are just hippies flexing their muscles and shouting lots and will eventually loose anyway but will have a few good (sad) stories to tell their kids? :o)))~



No, I didn't mean it to come across quite like that. But some of my teacher training course was about whats known in the trade as "group dynamics" and its a fascinating subject.

Now then wheres that box with my flared jeans, flowery kipper tie, love beads, and the Joan Baez album........


What teaching certificate?

I hold on to my copy of "Any Day Now" by Joan like it was gold so don't look at me.

2799) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Friendship/Loyalty (Message 623672)
Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...

Well, 30 stood up.




(Don't Link - Just copy the image if you want it.)


And that is worth something but if all you can have is 30 then that does limit your powers to effect change somewhat.


Here's the inspiring text:

Barely a year ago.

Long I pondered my King's cryptic talk of victory.

Time has proven him wise.


For from free Greek to free Greek
a word was spread

that bold Leonidas and his 300,
so far from home,

lay down their lives

not just for Sparta
but for all Greece

and the promise this country holds.


Now here on this ragged patch called Plataya

Xerxes' hoards face obliteration.


Ha-Oo


Just there the barbarians huddle.
Sheer terror gripping tight.

Their hearts with icy fingers.

Knowing full well what merciless horrors
they suffered at the swords and spears of 300.


Yet they stare now across the plain
at 10,000 Spartans commanding 30,000 free Greeks


Ha-Oo Ha-Oo Ha-Oo


The enemy out number us a poultry 3 to 1.
Good odds for any Greek.


This day we rescue a world from mystesism and tyrony
and usher in a future brighter than anything we can imagine.

Give thanks men to Leonidas and the brave 300.

To Victory



(I did a parody of this but I don't think it's appropriate here.)


2800) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Friendship/Loyalty (Message 623649)
Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...
That is all very true. Its interesting at present to read the reports about the Heathrow runway 2 protesters in West London. They've got solicitors, Engineers, office types, drop-outs, singles, couples, you name it in their camp compound. Some are just there for the camarderie, some just like to demonstrate about anything, some are there to object to the runway etc. But if the authorities try and move 'em they'll gang together like glue!

Point is at the end of the day, it will get built anyway, same as all the bypasses do. But they will say to their grandchildren I was part of that, we did our bit, and friendships may well be made that will last for years.

Do soldiers ever forget those who served with them, in war or peace?



That people have friendships and tell stories to their grandchildren is a natural state of affairs.

That people fight loosing battles is also natural for those with less or no power.

The two are parts of life but are not really connected.


I'm not sure what you are saying?

Are you suggesting the 30 are just hippies flexing their muscles and shouting lots and will eventually loose anyway but will have a few good (sad) stories to tell their kids? :o)))~


2801) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Friendship/Loyalty (Message 623619)
Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
"cRunchy" wrote:
I suspect even the concepts of belonging and loyalty exist even though simple text (with added colour from images) does not seem like it could replace the experience and quality of actually meeting in the flesh, speech or shared common physical spaces and environments. Or can it?

Participating in these forums is a friendly thing to do. We all come here and post as friendly people. Some are exceptions and may well be positively unfriendly in what they post and persist in posting, but that's just a minority.

Loyalty, I think, is not general, but arises specifically with certain people and the reasons for it may not be clear, logical, or easy to explain. I think it's hard to break a loyalty tie with someone, or even with 30. Loyalty, once it's there, just is.


I wasn't specifically thinking of the 30 as I started off on the net in usenet and still have friends who are now almost like distant siblings.

Loyalty is quite a powerful word as it impinges and intersects with all the history about being a loyal citizen, soldier, worker, slave or spouse.

For me the ability to overcome differences or stand together for the benefit of humanity is not a test of my 'loyalty' but about how complete I am as a social human being and about how much I am able to give up the hope of personal benefit so that the wider group or community can gain.

Personal friendships and group membership are slightly different things. I joined in the thread topic in good faith and was talking about 'friendship' not membership. Membership often has the tag of 'loyalty' attached to it.


It is quite clear the 30 (like the members of SETI*Supporters) have a strong common bond - I suspect created out of both friendships that have developed here on SETI and a common set of concerns, needs and hopes as well as desire to enjoy it's own community.


People making friends outside of the officialy recognised groups can only be a good thing.




2802) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Friendship/Loyalty (Message 623545)
Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
To ask someone to do something out of blind loyalty is probably the furthest thing from friendship I can think of.


I think the concept of 'loyalty' is too often used to coerce other people into doing or being what we want.

Loyalty is something that just exists as part of any good relationship, friendship or contract. If we stand by people when things go wrong I suspect it is because we have some investment or trust that things will get better.

I think I prefer the words 'trust' and 'value' combined to idea of loyalty in friendships.



On my way home I was wondering how the common concepts of friendship works with regards to the many friends people make on line today?

Many never actually meet or speak (and these days don't always e.mail) with each other but it is clear that many people find great enjoyment in chatting with certain people, to found friends and in friendship groups on forums or usenet.

I suspect even the concepts of belonging and loyalty exist even though simple text (with added colour from images) does not seem like it could replace the experience and quality of actually meeting in the flesh, speech or shared common physical spaces and environments. Or can it?




2803) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Friendship/Loyalty (Message 623527)
Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Do friends share chocolate? :)


Hehehe.. The sharing of chocolate is a true test of any friendship.

Just got back from the shop and we're all going to be sick as dogs tonight: I got a bar of Green & Black's organic dark chocolate with cherries, one with real ginger, a bag of gummy bears another with foamy shrimps and bananas as well as a bag of jelly beans.

I did however forget the cheese so it's gummy bears and lettuce sandwiches for dinner.

2804) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Friendship/Loyalty (Message 623456)
Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
What do these terms means to you? Are they synonymous?
I will add my own bit later.
If cRunchy could add something here, I think this thread could have a very elegant beginning.


I was just about to switch off my screen and go out to do a little shoping when I looked at this thread.

It's nice when I see someone wanting to talk to me or wants me to talk to them.

Friends are people that we feel comfortable talking with and if we have not gotten to know them well enough yet, or we are a little shy, then they are people we are just comfortable being around.

Friendship is not something you can learn from a book or that has specific rules. It is something that we either feel as soon as meet someone or it something that develops.

Loyalty is something different for me. On one level it is what we talk about only when we fear we will loose a thing or someone.

Loyalty is rarely an issue or even a topic of conversation when friendships are going well... The question of loyalty starts when friendships break down... and when everything is going well then 'loyalty' is simply known as 'friendship'.

Friends are there even when you make a complete clutz of yourself or you fall out... but friendship shouldn't be a burden and sometimes the most friendly thing we can do when things go wrong is to take some time away.


For me the best experience of friendship when it happens is seeing something special about you in someone else and not even noticing that you saw it.

It can be a gift and is a neccesity of life as much as having family, community, cared for or loved ones.

I believe friendship is a natural biological experience as much as it is a mental or thoughtful one.


Not sure these thoughts are very elloquently said or quite what was meant but I eat everything on the weekends and my cupboard is now bear and I will start eating the loo roll if I don't go to the shop soon.

I'll be back from shop later with chocolate all over my hands and face.... Yummy.



2805) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New Members on Forum (Message 622998)
Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Hi Patrick, Hi Jon,

W e l c o m e


It's great to meet new people in the cafe.

Fresh coffee is brewing on the stove and doughnuts are served all night and day.

Glad you are both here.

Happy posting.



(P.S: I often wondered if it would be a good idea to have a 'Welcome New Members' forum folder or sticky thread for new people to say hello in?)
2806) Message boards : Number crunching : Work Unit problem (Message 622712)
Posted 19 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I just managed to get rid of a never ending WU (with the minus <triplet_thresh> issue) but now I'm getting units that state they will take 180+ hours yet finish in 8 hours.

Is this a result of this same range of problems we have been experiencing or is it a problem somewhere else?


2807) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Copyright (Message 622574)
Posted 19 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Since this thread is now unlocked;

... for those to whom it may concern.

http://www.brilliantsite.com is my site. I OWN it and ALL intellectual contents therein.



Note: just because I hold an image on my site, but do not display or publish it, and you choose to link to my site and display it without my permission - it is YOU who are infringing copyright, whether I display it or not. As well as being most unfriendly by not asking my permission to link to my site in the first instance.

I repeat, I OWN this site - ALL content of http://www.brilliantsite.com is MY intellectual property.

If you have linked to my site without my express permission, PLEASE REMOVE THOSE LINKS AT ONCE. And also DELETE any intellectual content, including images, you have copied from my site, without my express permission AT ONCE.

I have given you fair request.

Thank you.



Yoinks!!!

Just a thought! Does that include this reply as obviously I have quoted you but in effect linked to and caused reproduction of those 3 images above without express (written) permission?

I also added a couple of your images to a post I made in your 'own' photo thread again without express permission.

As I have no power to delete or edit posts over an hour old you will have to send an official "take down" request to Berkeley University. ;o)

Other than that Ice I'm sorry for all my past linking.

I won't do it again. Honest :o)


@p...:
If you really want to know, then you can review the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. It is probably the first International (aprtially successful) attempt at enforcement of copyright infringement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMCA and read the open page...


As far as I can tell the DMCA has little to do with the central issue we are discussing here concerning members as it is in effect only an addage to existing "Copyright Law / Act" (various names depending on country - US = "Copyright Law of the United States"?) Am I right?

As the name suggests it was an attempt to add further to the scope of "electronic" copyright issues for the new "millenium" and mostly deals with cryptography or rather decryption and anti-protection technologies that may be used to circumvent electronic copyrighted data (EG: software that trys to get around movie DVD protection.) It also talks about exemptions for certain activities and bodies. For example it provides internet service providers with some protection from the actions of its users.

In this sense it also, I imagine, provides some protection for Berkeley (the providers of SETI forums as part of it's internet service) as it does not host linked images and non of the image data (except avatars) is transmitted by them. At most they would simply need to delete copyright offending links or posts. (Copyrighted 'text' quoted is a slightly different matter but they would just need to delete the portion of text or delete the post if requested.)???


Actually Berkeley has been cited as being a partner in the 'Chilling Effects' project website (provides info on issues of copyright) and I guess they know all about these legal issues already.


2808) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Knightmare's suggested solution ... ? (Message 622025)
Posted 18 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
@Misfit:

For holding up your falling RAC.
Now available at the SETI@home Store.


I only have what nature or god gave me and I oft misunderstand things but with my greatest respect that does look like negative innuendo (implication) to me (No I'm not a member of SETI*Supporters.)

Be interesting to hear what it really meant as I often get con-fussed.


@The Original Topic Of Thread:

Part of the problem with this thread is that it took such a long time to get to the point.

I kept coming back because I like some of the things Knightmare says but I ended up just 'twiddling my thumbs' ('with nothing to do'). I'm quite glad looking at things that I never posted before now either :o)~


Knightmare (Message 621691) is right that there are lots of already made forums.

One downside of having so many forums is that people can get spread out too thinly making community hard to sustain for them.

If the Cafe was more 'ANY' member friendly they would always have a place to come to at the centre BUT sometimes I wonder where 99% of the many thousands of SETI crunchers go as they certainly don't even post a 'hello' here!

Knightmare is also right that open door policies do have a great benefit in drawing new members in.

Forums obviously make their own choices about being open or closed as there are benefits on both sides for different people in different situations.

Openess at SETI Cafe though is not always a matter of an open door. Sometimes openess is about "being inviting" as a place, forum, people, teams.


I haven't posted on Knightmare's Calm Chaos Forums but I have poped in once in a while to be nosey and it looks a lively and great forum. It is 'inviting' in the best sense.

From what I have seen here and in Calm Chaos we would do well to appreciate what they have achieved.


Every group is different but the main similarity about those groups that keep on functioning well is not whether their is moderation or not but the values, efforts, attitudes and hopes of the core and developing membership and mods (if any).


As to whether groups of like minded people want to have another non-seti-team but seti-issue-minded community forum of their own... Well that is their choice and if they enjoy each others company or find support away from the SETI 'Officially Sanctioned' groups that can't be a bad thing. They are after all still active as main SETI members.

It shows that at the very least the SETI Cafe is functioning as a place where some can find friendships and common grounds regardless of what team they belong to. That's a plus for me.



Now my thumbs are un-twiddled at last :o)


2809) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ice's Photo Shots - warning, bigger files here (Message 621913)
Posted 18 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Thanks for this, I'll take a look sometime. I have PSP X (10.03) - will this have the nessasary filters do you think?


I prefer PSP. It has all the power of the gimp and Photoshop but always (to me anyway) made it seem a little simpler and more understandable.

The effect can also be done with either "Blur" or "Soften" and neither need a complex filter.

In simple terms you can select the "selection tool" (or use "freehand" if you want to avoid bluring tree tops in the forground") and set "feather" effect in the tools option to a higher number (EG: 4, 10, 20 or whatever depending on the image size.).

Then select the area you want to blur (EG: the top). (Select a little less than you want as 'feathering' will add to your selection area.)

Then just apply either "Blur" (Avergage) or "Soften" (Soft Focus) <From the "Adjust" menu> to your desired degree.

Do a similar task for the bottom of the image.



2810) Message boards : Number crunching : Never Ending Units (Message 621885)
Posted 18 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Over the past year or so the WUs I have been getting seem to get larger and larger. (Used to be on average 4 to 8 hours to complete) but now they are often 4 to 20+ hours (same machine, same workload.)

However I have one runing that states it has run 31 hours with another 36 hours to go.

Problem is that last night prior to sleep the time to completion was at 44 hours and when I woke it was at 50 hours.

I restarted my PC & BOINC and this completion time was reset to 35 hours. (An hour ago.)



After updating BOINC to latest version nothing has changed.

I can see the seconds ticking upwards in the wrong direction though :o(

Is there something wrong here? (Or am I just seeing the effect of live averaged stats for this unit.)

(Oh and I haven't got my tech-head on :o)

2811) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ice's Photo Shots - warning, bigger files here (Message 621393)
Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I'm beginning to wish I hadn't asked!!

All I want is to take a pic and its ALL in focus, is that possible?


1. Move further away from your subject.
2. Decrease the aperture (iris) size (use a higher F-Stop: EG: instead of f4 use f8 or f16 etc..)
3. Use a different lens if possible depending on subject and your distance from it.
4. Use a flash.

If you have an automatic camera and only have the option to change shutter speed then decrease that and the camera will compensate by decreasing the aperture size - hence making more of the photo sharp.

It's a complex issue. Sorry :o)

I am sure you have already said what your camera is but tell us again.

2812) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ice's Photo Shots - warning, bigger files here (Message 621376)
Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
[quote]More flowers,

SNIP...

Is there a simple non-technical reason why only the middle distance of that pic is in focus???



Take a look at this nice pictorial "Interactive Depth of Field Tutorial".
2813) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan (Message 620957)
Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.... Does he do any traditional music? I collect ancient music here:

http://www.exoticworldart.com/ufodbase/index.php?board=51.0



Most of his songs are from the ancient tradition of Qawwali but Nusrat is known for making the style and sound modern and popular.

That is a nice collection you have made.

Are you looking for exact renditions of older music, chants and songs or are modern interpretations ('in the style of') OK to?

I quite like Karnatic music. (If you like playing guitar there is a Karnatic Guitar Forum.)

There is a great talk on YouTube as an Introduction to Raaga (Yaman). (Raga)

I'll take a look around and see what I might be able to add.
2814) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan (Message 620539)
Posted 16 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
16th August.

In remembrance of a teacher, singer, poet and musician of the soul:


Ten years ago today Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan died on Saturday 16th August 1997 Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan after a lifetime of singing Qawwali.




One of my favourite softer Nusrat tunes:

Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan - Sanu Ek Pal Chain.


Born on 13th October 1948 in Faisalabad Pakistan he followed his fathers tradition of singing and music. His ancestral family's devotion to singing and Qawwali stretches back unbroken for six centuries.

He sang Qawwali ("utterance"), the Sufi music of India and Pakistan.

Qawwali is ecstatic and spiritual poetry entwined in music and voice that expresses mystical love and the longing for a union with the divine. Nusrat did this through his music and singing.

Sufism try's to attain truth and oneness with God by direct personal experience in ones lifetime here and now and not simply after death or judgment.

The 13th century Sufi musician and poet Amir Khusrau (The "father of qawwali") said that "music was the fire that burnt heart and soul."

Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan often repeats phrases over and over again that resonated with the listener until an ecstatic state is reached.

At that moment many find something quite spiritual and personal.


Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan expresses that we should not be slaves to reason.


For me even just Nusrat's hypnotic music and expressive vocalisations take us away from the need to find reason and towards a sense of connection with something at times passionate and at other times serene.





Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan - Tu Mera Dil Tu Meri Jan (My Body My Life)
(A tribute photo collection by LoneWulf on YouTube)

Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan - interview with Pakistani Qawwali singer.
2815) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Things Inside Of Us . (Message 618193)
Posted 12 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Make of this thread what you want.

A Song.



A Song.


Say something you love about the things inside of you.

Then say whatever you want.







The best thing about being me is that you are here.

The best thing about you for me is that I have no idea what you will do next.

Everything we are is unknown until we make it happen,

How amazing is that!.


2816) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ice's Photo Shots - warning, bigger files here (Message 618108)
Posted 11 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:





You make me proud to be alive Ice.

If I could capture such images I would be lucky.



Very delicate CyberWraith.


How could anyone not love such things.



2817) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Have You Seen The 9-11 Trucker (Message 617735)
Posted 11 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Have you heard about the trucker who has painted his cab and trailer with the names of all those who lost their lives in 9/11 ?

The trucker's name is John Holmgren from Shafer, Minn.

He has been 'pulled over' numerous times just so the troopers can get their picture taken with the truck.

Here is a MSNBC article on it.

Snip....






So many people died that day.


Our world profoundly changed when it happened.


I doubt we will ever be the same again.


I'm glad that John Holmgren keeps the memory of the victims alive.



2818) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ice's Photo Shots - warning, bigger files here (Message 617254)
Posted 9 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:



I love the symmetry of this flower. Do you know what is called?

Here's a flower tune for you Ice:

Flower Duet (Lakmé)

Thankyou for such lovely photo's (except the spider of course :o)..)




2819) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ~~~~~ RESPECT ~~~~~ (Message 617214)
Posted 9 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


Participating in another culture is acting like a prat? How about poking fun at someone simply because you don't agree with their point of view--how respectful is that?


You do make a point. We often find things funny that don't 'look right' (whatever 'right' may mean.)

I'm not sure though that dancing to an African tune with all the colourful clothing and banners is really participation of another's culture.

To some degree politicians and those that make a living and have power from celebrity or public fame are fair game for fun and jokes. (It's part of our culture to make fun of such people and they invite our irreverence.)

When a president, prime minister, queen or any human eats, works, suffers and laughs on a daily basis with the 'average' person then we can say they are participating in other people's culture.

A dance for the camera is not participation in anything but a dance.

I think President Bush is quite brave to stand up and dance but I think African culture is far more than this.


Respect must run deeper.

Why else would we care so passionatly about Pawly's thread?



If we look at the photo in a different way:

It is oddly amusing that we should think the black guy dressed all in white is somehow participating in American culture!



2820) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ~~~~~ RESPECT ~~~~~ (Message 616881)
Posted 9 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Why don't you let me make my point and leave it without coming back with your disrespectful reply that I should stop posting here?


Ice has a point here. (Sorry if I agree Ice.)

He doesn't like being shouted at.

On the net CAPITALS and Big text is understood as shouting.

Ice has my respect even if people want to disrespect me for respecting him.

I sometimes wonder why no one ever directly confronts me as much as they confront people like Ice.

When people want to take a swipe at me all I get is either a totally ignorance of my posts or a "half arsed" (UK Meaning: "can't be bothered") attempt at something else...

Maybe they don't respect me as much as they respect Ice.

Did we somehow loose the word 'respect'.

If you want to believe I should earn your respect then maybe you should be god.

Personally I thought it was a two way thing.

2821) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ~~~~~ RESPECT ~~~~~ (Message 616753)
Posted 9 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:



Respects n sorry :o)

Couldn't help myself.

I'll go annoy people by PM now... Promise :o))


(Blooming Confusing This Respect Stuff.. Self Respect.)
2822) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ~~~~~ RESPECT ~~~~~ (Message 616726)
Posted 9 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

,....
That crap causes most of the problems here.

Crap indeed. Didn't red X ya, dude.


Shh,

I'm supposed to be being quiet here now but I didn't X-Red you either.

I'm emotional and would have made it obvious before hand if I wanted to get the police to take you down.


A song for you - Police & Thieves :o)



Psst.. I was never here.

(I only red-x my own threads and madulator posts.. Heheehe... Oh No. Shoot me.)

2823) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ice's Photo Shots - warning, bigger files here (Message 616489)
Posted 8 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
A little something that one of my cats respectfully gave me today




Ooh lucky you.

Most of the cat's I had either came and sat on my chest still chomping on a spider with one of it's legs still hanging outside it's mouth or dragged a poor half live bird or mouse around the house.

I just bash the creature (not the cat) on the head with a boot.

The cat gets bored but the birds and mice look like squished cr@p.

Maybe Mr Miggins can make a Roman field mouse pie for us...


You know your cat loves you.








2824) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ~~~~~ RESPECT ~~~~~ (Message 616480)
Posted 8 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

It is my opinion that respect must be learned.


Honest question:

Who teaches us this?



I like the cycle but I just feel it lacks us as the individual at the centre. It sort of says we need to care for others first.

For me respect isn't exclusive. It's not about how we treat others. It's about how we treat 'us' including ourselves.

I just think the greatest disrespect we can give is to ourselves. To disrespect others is just another part of disrespecting ourselves.

I am sure we can all learn to behaive well and give respect by routine but I hoped we were talking about something deeper than that. A kind of way of being.

I suspect like 'charity' respect begins at home.



---

EDIT...


1. Please post your answer to the question only.
2. Please discuss differences of opinion via Private Mail or one of the MANY Cafe Threads.


Sorry Pawly.

I just realised I messed up again.

If you are doing a survey about those who can't follow the rules please add me as a naughty boy.

Sorry.

I'll be quite now :o)~

Please don't delete me.


2825) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ~~~~~ RESPECT ~~~~~ (Message 616468)
Posted 8 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

It is my opinion that respect must be learned.


Honest question:

Who teaches us this?


2826) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ~~~~~ RESPECT ~~~~~ (Message 616467)
Posted 8 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
......
It ain't rocket science folks, it's just human interaction--and you won't ever change that by hiring the incompetent or the emotional. It's likely that those that care enough to commit the time for free, care too much to be in charge. There are any number of examples of that...

So, want to solve the "problem" that bothers you so? Shut up. Keep yer pie hole closed. Wait 24 hours after something annoys you before you comment. Read it over 1000 times and ask yourself if it isn't just possible that the poster meant it differently than you took it (or that you missed something important like a colon)?


I think you are right Rush.

I only hired myself when I responded to others. I am incompetent and emotional to try and deal with such a large community.

It's a wierd world now as none of us were really designed to have relationships outside of our immediate village.

The world just took a turn in the past 50 years. We can hear the global voice. In the last 25 or so years we as the individuals can now respond and have our own voice in a faceless world community.

The consummer, little person, poor, slave, woman, black, whatever has always been told off for speaking in a less than perfect and and a rather impoverished voice.

Even those who are educated make us feel small.

But I do think it is our voice and I for one want to share it.

Community sometimes means we talk small. The benefits are though that the majority of the time we can make it work for most of us.

We could shut up. We could say nothing.

We could not care enough for our own beliefs.

But then I would not be able to tell you I think, at least in part you are right...

.. and you would not have been able to express what you thought.

For me to respect is also when you say something you feel to be true to me.



2827) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ~~~~~ RESPECT ~~~~~ (Message 616447)
Posted 8 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

What Does Respect Mean TO You?
....


I am trying hard to respect myself.

I often see people who do this without ever understanding why or how.

If I could truely know how much I was one voice in the noisey throng of people here in SETI and in the world then perhaps I would know how to deal with all you other single voices.

I think respect means nothing until it is done.

I think respect when it happens is a passion that changes us.

I think respect is the silent unspoken awe that we feel when we recognise others in ourselves.

I think sometimes we have to stop caring about our private worlds.

Maybe respect is about letting go and just holding on.

When we respect someone else in whatever small way it's a gift. A mirror to the things we care about however shameful or good.

Respect only has two parties. It can never be achieved by others telling us it should be so. We stand or fall by our beliefs, needs, hopes and desires.

Respect is not something to be achieved but to be surpassed.

It's the word we speak just before we feel love for our fellow beings.


Just my thoughts.

Sorry for the poetic.



A very poignant question Pawly. Thankyou.



2828) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ice's Photo Shots - warning, bigger files here (Message 615937)
Posted 6 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

This is a fine bee


That is such a pretty thing Ice.

I love how velvety the petals look and the shadows cast by the stamen and bee.


Cool.


2829) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Spiders (Message 612970)
Posted 1 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

... ... ..

I'm intrigued now so you must tell us. ......


It's where I have the web tattooed.


You are so shy.

Is it on your bum?

2830) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Spiders (Message 612964)
Posted 1 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I have no problem with spiders.

I have two of them tattooed on my forehead. Or somewhere.


If you had a spider on your forehead I would take great delight smacking it really hard with a big magazine. :o)

It's the 'somewhere' that bothers me.

Not sure I want to know..


It's where the fly is tattooed


I'm intrigued now so you must tell us.




2831) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Spiders (Message 612960)
Posted 1 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
eeeeeeeek!

Like a friend of one of my ancestors sang:

Lazy Lob and crazy Cob
are weaving webs to wind me.
I am far more sweet than other meat,
but still they cannot find me!

Here am I, naughty little fly;
you are fat and lazy.
You cannot trap me, though you try,
in your cobwebs crazy.


That fly is an anarchist.

My spiders sometimes try and walk up the walls to make a web but they keep falling off.

I kind of like flies. You just have to open a window and they eventually go out without being asked.


2832) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Spiders (Message 612953)
Posted 1 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I have no problem with spiders.

I have two of them tattooed on my forehead. Or somewhere.


If you had a spider on your forehead I would take great delight smacking it really hard with a big magazine. :o)

It's the 'somewhere' that bothers me.

Not sure I want to know..

2833) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Spiders (Message 612947)
Posted 1 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I like spiders...They eat the insects that i don't like.


My bathroom spider likes to eats all the little crawly things.

For the rest of the house I have rolled up newspaper and a vacuum.


If he stays in there and doesn't come crawling around the rest of the house I don't mind much.

I found his brother in my electric kettle a while ago.

I think I had quite a few cups of tea prior to it falling out. :o(

Spiders seem to love going everywhere.



They are the perfect hairy adventurers.

2834) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Spiders (Message 612941)
Posted 1 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Imagine that ... a rat with 8 legs?


That is even more spooky than my fat spiders.

I had two rats and they each had 2 back legs and 2 front handy type legs. We had over ten legs between us.

The best thing about small mammals is that you know they are there and if you annoy them they annoy you back.

Spiders don't care. When they get scared they run away but when they want to scare you they just do it even if you have a big book in your hand.

2835) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Common Phrases Turned Around (Message 612861)
Posted 1 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Reductio ad absurdum: reduction to the absurd
....
.

I know. Hence my statement. Absurd...


Angels dance upon a pin head.
. That is absurd.

That we sometimes see them.
. That is reduction.

That we love them.
. That is just madness.

That we never noticed them.
. That is because we were too busy posting on this absurd forum.

2836) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Spiders (Message 612851)
Posted 1 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Sorry, cRunchy, couldn't resist this nightmare image:



But it is never a good sign when you can hear them stomping across the room.


I wouldn't mind if they walked along quietly but they some how became aware I get spooked by them.

They put boots on.

I often wondered how I would react to a really really big spider.

I had a pair of rats for a while and I didn't mind their naughtiness and short haired bodyness at all.

But they didn't have 8 hairy legs.

2837) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Spiders (Message 612835)
Posted 1 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I love the global warming change in my climate but these big hairy spiders are getting too daring.

I hate spiders (childhood / genetic fear.) I keep one in the bathroom but they are just too spooky in the rest of my house.

Recently though half the spiders in my home fall off the wall because they are too fat and hairy.

They are so noisey as they run across some papers or a book I left on the floor.

They are like horses with 8 legs.

2838) Message boards : Cafe SETI : If you could change the world... (Message 612753)
Posted 1 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
If you could change the world, what would be the top 3 things you'd choose to change?


First thing is that I would like to change me and make the world better by doing so.

After that I would like to take away those that want to change you.

My 3rd & last wish is a no brainer. I want to live in a world without hate.



(I guess these are wishes and not changes. Sort of hopes...)
2839) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Nurse Olga is User of the Day. (Message 612738)
Posted 1 Aug 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
So Nurse Olga finally became a user.

I guess it was only a matter of time.

How much she loves to prod and poke us.

How much we like it.


Total respect to her nursyness Olga.




2840) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Jammie dodgers and other nice biscuits, and also cakes (Message 612539)
Posted 31 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Dodgers.....



It has a topping, so it's a cake.



I have hair topping my head and just ate a bannana.

Does that make me a fruit-cake?

Please don't answer that :o)



Are 'shortcakes' cakes or just tiny biscuits.



2841) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Common Phrases Turned Around (Message 612517)
Posted 31 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I often heard:

. "Beggars Can't Be Choosers"

But it seems to me that beggars "must" be choosers if they want to become more than beggars.


What are your common phrases and can they be turned around?




2842) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Jammie dodgers and other nice biscuits, and also cakes (Message 612205)
Posted 31 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
This is a thread to discuss cakes.

I like cakes. Do you?


Oooh my godness..

My fingers have just gone ecstatic jumping around for the very thought..

I hate oversweet or processed cakes except a nice moist fruity cake or a really choc laden cake.

The salty shortcakeness of dodger bicies were so good when I was a wee chap.


My nephew always looks forward to me visiting.

I buy the biggest, silkiest, moistest and most chocolatey cake I can find. A pint of whipping cream and take my caffetier and some smooth coffee.

We make some very very very strong creme cafe and pour on the plate. Plop the cake on top and add whipped cream afterwards.

We sit watching its lushness soak up the coffee and then have a night going crazy caffeeeeeeeeen and choconess mad.



I'm not sure the last choffeeness session has worn off yet...


2843) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Grandparents. (Message 611689)
Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
One day, I was about 6, I was staying with the grandparents on the farm.
Watched as gramma quarter filled a bucket with(she made sure) nice luke-warm water.
Watched her grab a matching bucket, into which she placed the other one.
Wandered behind her as we made our way to the barn, and found where one of the barn cats had just littered a mess of kittens (12)
Watched as Gramma oh so carefully chose the 4 smallest(runts), and took them out into the sunlight.
Thought she was gonna wash em(being 6)
...
Then the other pail came out, and was placed on top of them.
...
Watched as water and all tumbled out of sight down a gopher hole.
I FINALLY realized what was happening, as Gramma saw this she said *now now, if we don't do this, ALL of them will die, this way we still have 8.
REAL life ain't pretty sometimes, and sometimes we need to make hard choices in order to survive

THANK YOU GRAMMA !! :)


I near drowned once when my father decided he could overcome my fear of water by throwing me into a pool 9 foot deep. I don't think I was more than 3 foot tall myself. I still hate deep water now.

I can't imagine what it would be like to actually die like that :(

I quite like the runts in the litter. They are the ones with the most interesting personalities.


My grandparents were OK to me. I always assumed that anyone who had lived so long would have shed their ignorant beliefs and anxieties.

I think I might have been wrong.


2844) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Grandparents. (Message 611499)
Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
All I have are bad memories of my grandparents. My fathers mother beating me with her cane for speaking without being spoken to. And my mother's mother hardly ever speaking to me, let alone having any interest in me. My other grandparents died before I was born.

I do have alot of good memories from the rest of my family, excluding my father who beat me regularly with a belt and his fist to vent his frustrations on life. The more he beat me the more rebellious I became, the worse it got. The beatings finally ended after my first year of martial arts, but our relationship never improved much.


That is so horrid CR. Sorry.

I took martial arts too.

I never challenged my father with it though.

I just wanted him to like me.

My Nan was good to me. Others were not.


anyway, I guess the rest of my family being so great kinda makes up for it, and my kids are my reason for living.


Children have so much trust. They make all the bad things melt away in our lives.

2845) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Grandparents. (Message 611240)
Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
A warm glow, a feeling of safety. Looking up in awe and wonderment. I can still remember the times I spent with my Grandfather, days out travelling the railways up and down the country, also the mischief we used to get up to. :o)

Those were the days...I miss him deeply.


My grandfather was a watchmaker & jewler. I used to sit for hours watching him in his shop repairing clocks and doing very inticate work.

He made me a space on his bench for me to copy him (play) and gave me all the odd bits he could no longer use.

I love the smell of old wood and fine oil.

The one thing I remember most about my grandparents is that they found so much time to be with me.

I loved going for walks along the river Cole with my Nan and aunte picking logan berries (like rasberries) late summer to make jam.


I remember bouncing up and down on the seats in the train going to my Nan's caravan in Dawlish Warren.

It was good to be small and bounce :o)

2846) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Self-actualization (Message 611218)
Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

.....but just remember one golden rule about mental health. It's ok to talk to yours self as long as you don't answer back.


We tend to think all we are is our conscious mind but sometimes parts of us speak back to us without words. (If you ever stood on the edge of a very high wall, looked down and thought 'what if I jumped' then felt an unspoken word saying "no" you will understand.)


KAHLIL GIBRAN:

When it is day with thee, my friend, it is night with me; yet even then I speak of the noontide that dances upon the hills and of the purple shadow that steals its way across the valley; for thou canst not hear the songs of my darkness nor see my wings beating against the stars-and I fain would not have thee hear or see. I would be with night alone.



Why talk to anyone including one self if they are not going to talk back to you.

That sounds even more mad somehow :o)~




(Now if only I would stop telling me to post :o)))
2847) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ebay (Message 610868)
Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
i was planning on buying a few things from ebay any general rules that i should follow before i buy stuff becuse i heard alot of things about people getting screwed on ebay and i just want to be carefull . any tips would be helpfull.



To get the best range of bargains and exclude the junk get good at using the search by using brackets (), quotes, commas, star and the minus sign.

Use PayPal whenever you can. Whilst I have had a number of items not turn up it has only been the non-paypal transactions that have been hard to get my money back.

Always check to see if you can find the same item new elsewhere. It's suprising how much is sold on ebay (both second user and new) that is near the same price as on Amazon for example. I would rather pay the extra 5 or 10% on top and get a proper warranty.

Be careful of buying 'lifestyle' goods like iPods for example as a great number are clones and you have no cover from the manufacturer.

Be careful of misnamed items also. For example there is a cloned version of the "Picoo Z" (by Silverlit) toy helicopter called the "Pico Z" and is lesser quality.

Watch out for people who increase their feedback rating by buying online pdf books etc for a few cents or pennies each but then suddenly start selling laptops......

As to whether you get screwed to some degree depends on the types of items you buy. Scammers tend to go for the latest fad or popular items... but not always.

There are a couple of newsgroups on UseNet that are excellent places to chat about eBay. The UK one (uk.people.consumers.ebay) is very lively and whilst not all relevant to the US it has quite a few American posters and is a great place to ask general questions.

2848) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Grandparents. (Message 609530)
Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Oddly enough....my favorite memory of my Grandma is of her teaching me the finer points of eating Limberger Cheese....lol


I hear that Limberger is a rather smelly cheese.

Is it nice?

2849) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Grandparents. (Message 609508)
Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
My Nan was cool in her crimpolene pink trousers and nylon fruit patterned blouses.

She wore her blue rinsed hair in a beehive.

She loved to eat nougat but saved the fruity bits for me.


She spat on her hanky to wipe my face clean.

She would kiss me goodnight and wake me with sweet milky tea and biscuits.


She collected me from school and would wag her finger at the bullies.



She would stand with me for ages every time we went past the local toy shop.


Lily Allen - Nan You're A Window Shopper...

... and I loved window shopping with you Nan.


My Gran using KY Gel (lubricant) though? eeK!

Not sure I want to think about that.


I always wondered why she kicked me out of her bedroom every once in a while and put me to bed in the back bedroom where the stuffed aligator with the glass eyes and the big brown teddy bear lived.


I only just realised my Grandparent's were probably being naughty.

That is so nice. My Nan as a Woman, Gran, Mother and Lover.


Nan put powder on her face and used to rest her soft cheek against mine.

She smelt like blossoms.


Anyone else have memories of their Grandparents?


2850) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Being British (Message 609384)
Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I once found a Tesco (supermarket) trolley miles away from the nearest store and went to a festival.

I turned it on it's side, lit a fire inside it's cage and cooked veggie burgers on top all weekend.

I made enough money to buy a gas burner and a metal market frame and table.

The next festival my muslim mate drove us their.

He took the other side of the bench and cooked up the real meat burgers.

He made more money than me.

It was a festival on the grounds of a vegetarian community.

How British is that?

<If you were my nephew from Portsmouth you might say "how gay is that" (gay meaning gay as in the original meaning which is gay.)>


I live here:



You can see me making toast behind the curtains on the balcony if you look very very very hard with a little bit of imagination.

That girl and boy sitting on the side of the waterfall steps have been sitting there for the last 7 weeks.

The 3 pigeons at the bottom of the postcard were once Canadian geese but we glued their feet to the ground.


I was surprised no one mentioned the number of foreign objects that are removed from British bodies in A&E (alchohol and extraction) every year. The Brits love their brown sauce bottles, canned food, light bulbs and various 'objet ar.

I'm British and it freaks me out some times.

We live in a crazy world where the current and the past prime ministers suck-ed up to the USA yet refused to join the European states.. We love the 'United states' of America but hate the 'United States' of Europe..


I love being British but sometimes even I don't understand if that really means anything more than a few colours on a flag.


The old middle class lady 5 doors up from me that looks a little like Aunte Vera Lynn keeps walking around the road because she is lonely and wants to bump into someone that will give her 5 minutes.

The ill guy 4 doors in the other direction has a fat belly and says hello to everyone but hides when you say hello back.

The other 500 or so people in my road go about their lives but don't say much to each other (either that or they never say much to me :o))

When I take my RC helicopters over the field on the opposite side of my road the old man walks past and drops his stick and after walking out of view comes back for it.

I crouch down and pick up his stick and pat his dog but he never asks if he can play with the helicopter.

Yet when I get on a bus and look tired there is always someone who moves over and becons me to sit.

Being British means we won't bother others unless we are in a cue or on a bus. Then we bother others with the best of intent.


I love all that Britain has achieved but we don't always talk with our neighbours however old and lonely they might be or however fat their stomach is and however much they run away.

Catch British people in a public building or on public transport and they come alive.

Catch them on the street and they will avoid you.


I'm not sure what being British really means but I doubt it means much different for us nobodies or average worker types to being American, French, African, Russian, Pakistani or even Martian.

Without all the pomp and circumstance that our societies do whenever we mention their names we the average people still need the same things. We also build the world and make the real wealth.


To be British to me means nothing more than the chance to communicate and share a common history with the people I know.

It's my extended family.

What they tell us on TV is their Britain not mine.


I am British.and I still have part of that Tesco trolley.




(If someone can tell me what I just said I would be very greatful.)
2851) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Its my birthday. (Message 608833)
Posted 26 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... As we all grow older, hopefully we grow wiser. ...


I was quite hoping we could peak and then go the other way.

To have the experience and to enjoy innocent fun would be nice.

40 + or - is a good age to revert.

Sorry about the itchy ivy. Maybe you can have an extra birthday when you feel better.

Anyway:

You share your birthday with these people:

    Aldous Huxley (philosopher, satirist, author)
    Blake Edwards (McEdwards) (director)
    Bobby Hebb (singer, songwriter)
    Brenton Wood (Singer)
    Carl Jung (psychiatrist)
    Cress Williams (actor)
    Dan Konopka (OK Go) (Rock musician)
    Darlene Love (Actress-singer)
    Dobie Gray (Leonard Ainsworth) (singer)
    Dorothy Hamill (ice skater)
    Erskine Hawkins (musician)
    Gary Cherone (Rock singer)
    George Bernard Shaw (playwright)
    Gracie Allen (vaudeville, radio, TV, stage actress)
    Helen Mirren (actress)
    James Best (actor)
    Jason Robards, Jr. (actor)
    Jennifer Ashe (actress)
    Jeremy Piven (actor)
    Kate Beckinsale (actress)
    Kevin Spacey (actor)
    Kiel Martin (actor)
    Louie Bellson (Balassoni) (musician, composer, director)
    Marjorie Lord (actress)
    Mick Jagger (singer)
    Peter Hyams (Movie director)
    Rebecca St James (Gospel/Contemporary Christian singer)
    Roger Taylor (drummer, singer, songwriter)
    Sandra Bullock (actress)
    Stanley Kubrick (director)
    Susan George (actress)
    Vivian Vance (Jones) (actress)
    Wayne Wonder (Rapper-reggae singer)



and it's also 'Revolution Day' in Cuba... :o)




Happy Birthday MajorKong.



2852) Message boards : Cafe SETI : cRunchy Is Back. (Message 607358)
Posted 21 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Hello.


It seems as if just a few hours ago you said the imortal words "goodbye"..


Thank you Fuzzy.

There are so many things people could say but just a simple 'hello' often says so much more.

We often forget how much a simple 'hello' means.

It's a good thing nay?

You were being caring. No?

Did I miss your point?


No, I don't think you did.

What do you mean, me were being caring? I don't understand.



You often just post single words that sometimes look like throw away thoughts at times.

I asked you if you meant your 'hello' in a caring manner.

It was meant simply as a way for you to tell me more than just a simple word.

It was not badly meant.

Hello to you too.

cRunchy


2853) Message boards : Cafe SETI : cRunchy Is Back. (Message 607313)
Posted 21 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Hello.


It seems as if just a few hours ago you said the imortal words "goodbye"..


Thank you Fuzzy.

There are so many things people could say but just a simple 'hello' often says so much more.

We often forget how much a simple 'hello' means.

It's a good thing nay?

You were being caring. No?

Did I miss your point?
2854) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wave from cRunchy. (Message 607232)
Posted 21 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


I got fed up being alone so I came back to be amongst good people.

cRunchy Is Back.



2855) Message boards : Cafe SETI : cRunchy Is Back. (Message 607211)
Posted 21 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
If you need longer to think about things please do so.

I needed 23 hours.

Just tracking the terrorists.

It's my first day.



It took just one word from a moderator for me to be labelled so.

I would say that was less than a nano cortical second.

I messaged and waited to see if the admins or mods would remove this accusation. It never happened.

I decided if someone wants to give me a label I should accept that that is how some people want to see me.

I find myself appologising a lot of late.

Sorry for getting your post wrong.


2856) Message boards : Cafe SETI : cRunchy Is Back. (Message 607193)
Posted 21 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
cRunchy the official terrorist is back.

So what was that, a whole 23 hours or so?


If you need longer to think about things please do so.

I needed 23 hours.


Sorry. Was this a put cRunchy down post or did I miss your point?

I'm sorry.

2857) Message boards : Cafe SETI : cRunchy Is Back. (Message 607183)
Posted 21 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
cRunchy the official terrorist is back.


A Tune Whilst you Read


Don't PM me because officially I now have no right to privacy.

I never wanted to terrorize or have no civil rights but Berkeley University has not removed the accusation that I terrorise from one of their moderators. So here I am carrying the label they gave me..

To the moderator and poster 'Pappa' all I can say is that I am truelly sorry.

We were argueing about "punishment" and I disagreed and said I think hitting or getting physical with children was not right. You disagreed with me as is your right. You then publically asked me if I was abused as a child as a way to fight my arguement.

The truth is Pappa that I was abused.

I watched with horror as my sister and both of my step brothers and me were lined up and my mother heated a spatula on the bars of an electric fire. I watched in terror as my brothers and sisters had the spatula was placed upon each of their tongues and then upon mine.

I never wanted to live my pain in public but neither you nor any other SETI mod or admin have removed your public posting of my private message to you so where else can I now go?

You think you discovered something about me but if you spoke to any of the people I see as friends on these forums I bet they already knew I was imperfect. They just had the faith and good grace not to make me unfortunate in public.


This is my shame. I now give it to you.


Sometimes people are not nice and sometimes they are very bad but I never found a creature that I could not have seen part of my humanity in.

I rose above the abuse that happened to me.

I still believe that to 'punish' is to exact some sort of revenge.

I would rather teach and when I can not teach I will try hard to both share and protect.

As a SETI moderator Pappa you should understand this.



The SETI mods and admins are behind a keyboard but are human for sure. I never abused you Pappa. I never posted your PMs to me and did not make public anything you ever told me in confidence.


I hope I never used my emotions to hammer you down.

I will be a terroist in your mind if you want.

I just wanted to be me and however hard I search I can't see a terrorist in my heart.

I am sorry you don't like me Pappa.

Thank you for making me public.

I never wanted to be so shamed but I guess we are here.


You can't take this away from me.


Thankyou Pappa. Forgive me for being me.

2858) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wave from cRunchy. (Message 607181)
Posted 21 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
By the way, this Thread is Locked for Admin Review!

The moderators did not see anything wrong, the Thread is unlocked.


It's not locked anymore.

2859) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wave from cRunchy. (Message 606305)
Posted 20 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I guess it's my time to go away for a while.

You can PM me if you want to know why or get me via the good folk at TFFE.

I'll come back sometime with the hope that SETI & Berkeley have worked out how not to insult it's members.

I'll miss you all.

For now I feel too ashamed to be here.


2860) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 606136)
Posted 19 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
....



The packet that flipped the donkey back.



2861) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Which sports car are you? (Message 605035)
Posted 17 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Take the Which Sports Car Are You? quiz.
http://www.tomorrowland.us/sportscar/


Ok so after reading this thread several trillion times I suddenly realised I should have taken the test.. (Doh..)

I still don't believe it but I'm supposed to be a Honda S2000!



You live on the edge, and you live for the adrenaline rush. You don't need luxuries, snob appeal, or superfluous gadgets. You put your top down, get your motor revving, and take all the curves that life throws at you at full speed. So what if you spin out occasionally?

Sounds like a 3 wheeled 'Reliant Robin' to me ;o)

2862) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Which sports car are you? (Message 604917)
Posted 17 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I'm a Lamborghini Murcielago!

You're not subtle, but you don't want to be. Fast, loud, and dramatic, you want people to notice you, and then get out of the way. In a world full of sheep, you're a raging bull.

Take the Which Sports Car Are You? quiz.
http://www.tomorrowland.us/sportscar/


Well I'm no raging bull.

I'm just a teeny weeny Spitfire.








Or maybe I'm like this:



But hold on... Who needs a stalion when you are me... hehehe.

Oh No....

I imagined it once. Don't spoil my dream :(


(No One Believes Me Anyway... Phewey.. I Always Liked Shanks's Pony Anyway.)
2863) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Prove it wrong and I will send you $100 (Message 604874)
Posted 17 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I agree,
Lots going on with the taxes, direct and indirect, the federal reserve, the case law, all too much singulary, let alone all together. I have a pain between my ears over it all. Call me simple.

:P
.


OK. I'm not a US citizen but wouldn't it be easier to sort out the law and pin that down first and then ask all the real questions afterwards?

A house needs foundations. Being clear about the law (the things we accept and don't) seems like a good foundation.

As it was your question & out of interest do you think (equitable) taxes are good?

Don't ask me about my country. We riot sometimes. Then we run and hide.. Hehehhe.
2864) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Prove it wrong and I will send you $100 (Message 604867)
Posted 17 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The first proposition in this video is that:

"Income Tax" = "Tax on Labour"

These two are not equal so why trust anything that is said afterwards?


AMENDMENT XVI

Passed by Congress July 2, 1909. Ratified February 3, 1913.

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever sources derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.


Even if this amendment was never ratified (I don't know) it never mentioned "labour".. It simply mentioned "income"..

Why does the video harp on and on and on about "labour"?

I won't win your $100.

But then I don't care.. I pay taxes for schools, roads and good stuff :o)~~~




I think you've hit the nail on the head. This is another anti-capitalism leftist clip, imho. They make the case that the Federal Reserve Board was only created to enrich the bankers. It may well have been just the opposite, that the bankers, rich Americans all, were establishment figures who did not want to see the the country go bankrupt. I haven't researched it, but I too detected a left-leaning bias to the clip. ;)


Oop.. I was busy changing & deleting bits of my responses then you responded :o)

Interesting your response though.

I won't say I am anti-capatalist but I prefer to put people before money and believe that in any good bussiness we can all win.

I didn't really see the video as a 'leftist' arguement. I just saw it as a set of ideas that led the producer down a route. (The same is true of anyone that takes an idea and runs with it without making stops and checks to their own direction.)

Personally I think the video tried to do too much.

That creates an impossible situation for anyone that would like to try and win a $100.

Hey that would pay my rent for a week :o)

I do still wonder why the video keeps trying to refer to 'the average american', 'labour', 'work', 'the people' etc... Emotive values! Emotive arguements worry me...




2865) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Prove it wrong and I will send you $100 (Message 604855)
Posted 17 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
"Income Tax" = "Tax on Labour"

AMENDMENT XVI

Passed by Congress July 2, 1909. Ratified February 3, 1913.

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever sources derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.


Even if this amendment was never ratified (I don't know) it never mentioned "labour".. It simply mentioned "income".. "Any"?

It does my head in trying to figure this out.

I won't win your $100.

I pay taxes for schools, roads and good stuff :o)~~~


2866) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Lene Lovich (Message 604837)
Posted 17 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Some say they like her. I say she's crap.

What do you think?




I quite liked a few of her songs like 'The Night' <hiding my head in shame..>

... but then I quite like the SETI Cafe folk :o)~

No accounting for taste hey!


(I'm crap at latin though.)
2867) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Smelly Things? (Message 602241)
Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
reminds me of the movie "Micheal"


Smelly Vision?

The movie stank?

Don't be secretive.

Go on. Tell us.

2868) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . just wantEd to say (Message 602193)
Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

. . . just wantEd to say






If nobody was my friend then nobody would be special to me.. <oH. I scratches my head..>


I love it when nobody talks to me.. <Grr. I bangs my head on wall..>


I give in.

I'll just give a big smile to nobody :o))))))))











2869) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Things a bright person can do. (Message 602181)
Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Things a bright person can do.


I can dress myself. Does that qualify?

Don't answer that!


If you like dresses that is OK I suppose....

oh cRumbs..
2870) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Romantic Astronomy (Message 602157)
Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I think this is a lovely concept.

People like things that connect them to the universe that connect them to each other. Lovers like this more than anyone else.

Look at how many people that like matching their tarot or astological readings.

'Love Astronomy' may be a more selective taste but anything that brings people together is fine in my book.

I'm not sure what 'astronomy' truely means in the public eye but the stars will always mystify us.


Isn't part of astronomy just about being us and our love of gazing upon something so profound and wonderful in the heavens. That is romance to me.


(Well you did ask.)
2871) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Smelly Things? (Message 602152)
Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I love these smelly things:

    Honeysuckle on a warm summer's eve.
    Fresh bread.
    A baby you can snuggle.


You?




2872) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What would be your epitaph? (Message 602124)
Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
cRunchy:

His ashes scattered here.
He smoked one too many.


Oh poo..

2873) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Man robs bank disguised as a tree (Message 602115)
Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I'm still hugging my cherry tree and it didn't go anywhere. Honest.

Please don't arrest my tree.



(Has anyone ever considered it might of been a tree disguised as a man?)
2874) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Things a bright person can do. (Message 602037)
Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Coming soon...

How to levitate your balls


I bought some frozen vegetarian meatballs today.

Do you think there is a bright person out there that knows how to flavour and cook my balls?


2875) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What would be your epitaph? (Message 602028)
Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
LOL!
Mine would be, "When asked what he wanted to do when he finished his doctorate, he responded 'Sleep.'"


Sorry. I am having problems focussing.. Did you say "sheep"? :o))

2876) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What would be your epitaph? (Message 602015)
Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
OK it may seem rather macabre but if you don't mind it could be a little fun.

If you are bothered by the end of your time then forgive me and please ignore this thread.


What would be your epitaph?

(If you want to add to someones elses epitaph please be kind or be sure they won't mind....)

Anyone is welcome to epitaph me :o)~


cRunchy:

He had just string to hold his pants up.
The moon shone often.




2877) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Things a bright person can do. (Message 601945)
Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Does talking crap when you have a degree in sewage management count?

Sorry :o))


2878) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Aliens Have Arrived (Message 600978)
Posted 9 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
....
“To Serve Man”...


oh But but I don't want to be served with mint sauce... <trembling, biting nails with fear..>


Women are more tender... They roast nicely!



Are these aliens a clone army of Delia Smith? Very very scarey indeed..

2879) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why I like to talk (Message 600908)
Posted 9 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I was attacked violently once because I refused to agree with a gang of National Fronters (British Fascists) that black people were our countries problem..

The National Front usually have men in smart suites representing them. Very nice, pleasant - on the outside. But on the inside they are mean, conniving, evil; most unpleasant. Don't be misled by what's on the outside - make sure you check out what is on the inside and what they are 'really' on about.


Are you talking about the political wing called the BNP?

They only sometimes wear shirts and suites...

They mostly wear what ever their target people wear.

That's politics and community inducement.

The NF wear any old clothes on the street.

They hate us because we ask questions.

They are pretty quiet now but waiting.

Every society and community has it's destroyers :o(

2880) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone Pogoed To This. (Message 600888)
Posted 9 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


My total favourite pogoing punkettes are the 'Slits'

Slits - Typical Girls

These girls have cooties big time...

.. but they didn't get em from me because I was still just a twinkle in someones eye.. oh yuck :o(

2881) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone Pogoed To This. (Message 600881)
Posted 9 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Clash? I can remember Wishbone Ash.


Were they punks ;o)

2882) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone Pogoed To This. (Message 600858)
Posted 9 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

... Ramones...


But did you pogo??

I guess this version was a bit early for you..

Ramones- Judy Is A Punk 1974






(I'm sure I was just a twinkle in my grand-mother's eye :o))
2883) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone Pogoed To This. (Message 600840)
Posted 9 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I enjoyed that so much i searched for more Clash in Utube and i found this:

Tony Blair sings The Clash

:)


God Save The Blair.
2884) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone Pogoed To This. (Message 600831)
Posted 9 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Go on..

Admit it..

You was a punk..

Clash & London Calling

and still are :o)~






I'm too tiny to remember.. hehehehe...
2885) Message boards : Cafe SETI : We Do Such Amazing Things. (Message 600806)
Posted 9 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

People Do Such Amazing Things:

Parents who gave us life.


Wow Yes.

and

Siblings and friends that we grew up with and became.



A Tune.
2886) Message boards : Cafe SETI : We Do Such Amazing Things. (Message 600775)
Posted 9 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
People Do Such Amazing Things:

Fire fighters that risk life and limb.

Factory workers that create the things we need.

Nurses that stay by the bedside night and day.

Musicians and poets that bring clarity to our world.

Farmers that plow the earth to feed us.

Cleaners that make our world safe to live in.





Please add those you appreciate to the list.




A Tune.
2887) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why I like to talk (Message 600546)
Posted 8 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
That is true... No one should ever take away freedom or time from others by talking too much.

Well I'd be more worried about someone stopping me talking, or controlling what I could say, being gagged...


I was attacked violently once because I refused to agree with a gang of National Fronters (British Fascists) that black people were our countries problem..

I don't want them to have the freedom to spread their hate.

I want freedom of speech to be a light that shines well into the future.

I am not sure that quite works in our world or these forums yet..

But it's a hope.

Everything takes time.

Context and meaning really do matter.

2888) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why I like to talk (Message 600516)
Posted 8 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

What makes you like to talk?


I don't like talking much but I know I have so much to say.

It took me a long time in my little life to talk out loud.. Somtimes I wish I hadn't... but occasionally sometimes someone of good heart hears me...

When that happens I know exactly why I like to talk.



Hi cRuncy, it's good that people hear you. But it's also good that they listen to what you have to say, rather than just like the sound of their own voices, don't you think?


That is true... No one should ever take away freedom or time from others by talking too much.

Though occasionally there is something that someone has to say that has no reply.

Context and meaning matter.



2889) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why I like to talk (Message 600507)
Posted 8 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

What makes you like to talk?


I don't like talking much but I know I have so much to say.

It took me a long time in my little life to talk out loud.. Somtimes I wish I hadn't... but occasionally sometimes someone of good heart hears me...

When that happens I know exactly why I like to talk.





"Never discourage anyone...who continually makes progress, no matter how slow . . ."

I am happy to be me.
2890) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why I like to talk (Message 600498)
Posted 8 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

What makes you like to talk?


I don't like talking much but I know I have so much to say.

It took me a long time in my little life to talk out loud.. Somtimes I wish I hadn't... but occasionally sometimes someone of good heart hears me...

When that happens I know exactly why I like to talk.


2891) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Watch out! (Message 600448)
Posted 8 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

Look, how cute, even Michael's excited you're back.

Welcome DB!!!


Love your avatar Finkle... Giggles...



(our heros live within a beat of their heart no matter what others think...)
2892) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Watch out! (Message 600405)
Posted 8 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.
C o o l ! ! !


And We Love You Dogbytes


Keep on being here.




2893) Message boards : Cafe SETI : For any that believe in prayer, pray for me (Message 600397)
Posted 8 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Trust is the cornerstone of any type of relationship, and without that, the relationship has its' foundation build on sand.


I know. I asked for trust, but it was not given.

Let me ask for something else...

Please pray for her. Please pray that God watches over her, protects her, and that she may have many happy days in her life. I don't want her to hurt. I don't want her to be sad. I know it is all up to God's will, but I really believe that she is a good person, deserving of a rich and wonderful life. I wanted to be there with her, but it seems that is not possible.

So I ask, God, please take care of her.


I don't pray but I do believe that when we have the best hopes and wishes for others the circle is complete.

We lift each other.

In this I know you will lift both yourself Brian and the ones you love and care for.

Sometimes all we can do is be open to the possibilities and stay true to the best of ourselves.

Whatever the situation. I offer my hope to you.





2894) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Most Horrid Thing You Ate? (Message 600391)
Posted 8 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Now, now, cRuchy. I'm sure your tree loves you very much. And it knows you take good care of it. Trees have feelings too!

Have you hugged your tree lately?



only when no one is looking :o)


2895) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Most Horrid Thing You Ate? (Message 600383)
Posted 8 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Dr Pepper tastes like my cherry tree...


Had some experience chewing on your cherry tree, crunchy??


Yes..

Cherry trees contain high levels of prunasin which can help with chest colds by increasing mucous. I also make tea from the fresh flowers (as they taste quite gentle) to help desensitise myself to tree flower pollen of which I have an allergy..

Dr Pepper actually does have a slightly similar taste to my bird (wild) cherry tree bark and flowers..

So the answer is yes :o)~

Ever used Asprin (Willow) or Quinine (Cinchona).... Almost the same thing really..


2896) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Most Horrid Thing You Ate? (Message 599415)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Dr Pepper tastes like my cherry tree...


Is that a good thing or a bad thing?


I like Dr Pepper.

I also like my cherry tree... full of prunasin

It took the last 3 years to get this tree free of deritus (dead and crappy leaves)

My cherry tree shades me in the summer.

I like it even if I seem stupid to you all..

I dont care..

Its my tree..






2897) Message boards : Politics : Michael Moore's: Sicko (Message 599298)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I would love to live in other countries, I hate living here. THis is not the country I was born and raised in any more..............



Where would you like to be?



2898) Message boards : Politics : Michael Moore's: Sicko (Message 599292)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I am so glad I live in England.

Same chance of being killed by medical intevention but less chance of dying because you don't have the money. (Universally the 4th highest cause of death is medical intervention..)My taxes are high but I know everyone will be served.


That's simply untrue.


No. It is very true... I am glad I live in England..

I would also like to live in other countries but I am so glad I live here .





2899) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Most Horrid Thing You Ate? (Message 599251)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I did it again and posted the same thing twice..

I cut it..

Sorry...

2900) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Most Horrid Thing You Ate? (Message 599250)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
To MajorKong

To sleep outside under the stars is just the best thing ever.

Tined Coconut Milk should be put down the toilet.

'Horrid' things are not nice.

Dr Pepper tastes like my cherry tree...

Everything else is up for debate...

2901) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Most Horrid Thing You Ate? (Message 599230)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I once ate a whole fried grasshopper in oil, tinned, on a dare.

Never again! LOL


That is so un-nice its almost cool..


Yuck...


That poor grasshopper...


Was it juicy?






2902) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Most Horrid Thing You Ate? (Message 599082)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Oops.

2903) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Most Horrid Thing You Ate? (Message 599081)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Liver is awful.



My Cat doesn't think so!


Cats don't care.. They keep bringing us live birds.. My Magpie keeps doing the same damn thing..

I have to take my boot and bash the squirming ones on the head. I'm not a meat eater and it's not nice but I have no choice..

You are all too naughty..



2904) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Most Horrid Thing You Ate? (Message 599079)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

We barf because we can..

It's our right..



2905) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Most Horrid Thing You Ate? (Message 599067)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Mod.


Why?

I was always a little less than rude.

I love my vegetable just cooked..

I am and have always been almost cRunchy..

Oh Me.. Please PM me before moding me.. I will try and turn this around..

Mod.


Bah.. Who would mod me.. I am lovely... Maybe...




2906) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Most Horrid Thing You Ate? (Message 599047)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
[quote]
Well please post what you do like, I have no problem with Garlic or Coconut in whole or milk form (absolutely essential in a nice thai curry) I enjoy many foods from various countries but my problem is Capsicum, I love it but it hates me :( and my father is Italian,, go figure!


I like soft flavoured foods but I like my vegetables al dente (cooked but just crisp)...

I also love roti and aloo ghobi.

Sometime some pasta and soft cheese is good.

If you want me to post what I do like please tell me..

Mai Maafi Chaati Hui (Forgive my rudeness..)



2907) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Most Horrid Thing You Ate? (Message 599038)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I don´t like Garlic. .

I agree..

I also hate any plants that smell like garlic or raw onions. (Sulphuric..)

Ascetic and Ascorbic acids also make me feel unwell. (Vit. C & Vinegar)

For some odd reason phosphoric acid (Coke/Cola) doesn't bother me.







2908) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Most Horrid Thing You Ate? (Message 599033)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
When we were in Japan it was tuna eyeballs. Yuck!


Eyeballs (hard boiled eggy balls) and smelly Tuna..

Give me a nice cucumber & cheese sarnie any day...

2909) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Most Horrid Thing You Ate? (Message 599030)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I never give a tip.. But if you wretch with gusto every dog in the area seems to want to barf.. bark.. with you..

It's quite animal...


2910) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Most Horrid Thing You Ate? (Message 599025)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I did the same thing on Diego Garcia once....OMFG, GROSS


Our worlds are not the same. What is a "Diego Garcia"??


2911) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Most Horrid Thing You Ate? (Message 599023)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I quite like coconut milk from coconuts; I always try to knock them down at fairs and enjoy cracking them open with my bare teeth ;) Does it taste so different from a tin?


Fresh coconut milk is nice but the tinned stuff is very very very bad.

I spewed so loudly that my neighbour's dog started to bark.

Unless you like vomiting never buy a tin of this shamefull stuff..

It is not good.

Just drink some petrol.. It's cheaper and tastes nicer..



2912) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Art-House Movies (Message 598993)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

'The Fountain'?


2913) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Imperfections & Scars. Do They Tell A Story? (Message 598977)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
A few years ago I crashed off the back of a motorcycle.

It took a little skin off my right arm just above my elbow and below my right hip. (.. both have repaired quite nicely now..)

After I stopped rolling down the centre of the road I got up and walked and sat down on the verge (side of the road).. and took my helmet off..



I am still amazed at how time seemed to go so slowly whilst I was travelling through the air and why I never felt anything even though I knew when I hit the ground I would be damaged.





2914) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Imperfections & Scars. Do They Tell A Story? (Message 598939)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Oh, and there's my one thumb, where I took stitches out myself, lol!


I love it when stitches are removed. They kind of tickle.

Do you still have that thumb of yours?


2915) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Imperfections & Scars. Do They Tell A Story? (Message 598920)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Well, there are scars, and then there are scars.


Some are more than scars on the body.

Some never heal.


So true but we can make them less painfull if we accept people into our family.

People do not need to suffer alone.

For us.
2916) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Imperfections & Scars. Do They Tell A Story? (Message 598910)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I have scars from my Caesarean. ;)

Heh?

Just kidding! :)


When you respond to yourself the world becomes a little strange...

I was always scared..

2917) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Imperfections & Scars. Do They Tell A Story? (Message 598906)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Well, there are scars, and then there are scars.


Bless your soul but you must tell your story.

On my upper left wrist I have a long white scar.

I got this from a girl on my local paper-round when I was 11.

She thought I was looking up her skirt (I wasn't) and she picked up a stone and slashed at me..

All I remember is that I thought she was beautiful.

It bled so much.. That was ages ago.
2918) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Copyright vs. Copyleft (Message 598889)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I don't listen to too much music but what I do listen to I stole.

I believe artists have the right to earn a living.

But I stole some things.

Just like some people have stolen my words..

I dare any artist to take me to court..

I'm not so special.

How can we copyright words and ideas...




2919) Message boards : Politics : Michael Moore's: Sicko (Message 598884)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joaAfBr9tAE

Anyone see this and have a comment?


I am so glad I live in England.

Same chance of being killed by medical intevention but less chance of dying because you don't have the money. (Universally the 4th highest cause of death is medical intervention..)

My taxes are high but I know everyone will be served.


2920) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Imperfections & Scars. Do They Tell A Story? (Message 598858)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

On the inside of my left heal (ankle) I have a birth mark.

Someone must have held me by the foot and dipped me in a river..


2921) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Imperfections & Scars. Do They Tell A Story? (Message 598853)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
When a drunk driver hit me, doing 80-100 mph, back in 1994 as I returned from an interview ... I found my only scar was on the back of my right hand. Soon, it took the shape of a heart. It lasted for much of the following year. I have not been able to see it since.


It would be cool to have a heart shaped scar.

How do you know the driver was drunk?

Did the driver just hit your hand?


Sorry ;o)~


2922) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Imperfections & Scars. Do They Tell A Story? (Message 598850)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I have a small scar on my forehead.

I don't remember how I got it but was told when I was 4 I skid (slid) across the kitchen floor and hit the cupboard door..

Maybe that is why I love sliding around in the snow..


2923) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Imperfections & Scars. Do They Tell A Story? (Message 598846)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Mine ( since I only have one ) tells the story of a very boring life....lol


Yes you have a body :o)

What is your imperfection?

You are not boring to me.


2924) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Imperfections & Scars. Do They Tell A Story? (Message 598840)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Every body has a story.

Scars or Bruises.

We all have them.

Do yours tell a story?

2925) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598816)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP my stuff...
What if?
Am I crazy?


Nope; not crazy, however, definitely in the minority. I've held the same ideals for decades... However; after being kicked in the teeth, (figuratively), for decades - I find it difficult to near impossible to maintain those ideals and beliefs... Especially with my present life issues; physical and emotional, going on right now.

However; if you can keep it up and hold to those ideals, then more power to you.


Have you noticed how the young and old are somewhat similar. They both look at others without reproach (without judgement.)

It's not an ideal to want something better. It's just a hope.

I know the world is not a perfect place..

Even you want the world to turn.



2926) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598799)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Well... To be fair to the mods longshanks, she did get into nasty, open fights with about three of the moderators, and that's clearly against the rules.

And no, I don't want to restart the Esme ban debate, but it's a little much to let your 2nd last post stand unchallenged. ;)


What if we could be better than this?

What if we could stop problems happening before they did?

What if we could make a world worthy of us all?

What if we wanted to be the best of the best?

What if?

Sometimes we must push.

Am I crazy?


2927) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598793)
Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


Hey Crunchy,

If you don't know who you are, I'm afraid we can't help!!!

As for Esme, there are those, and the again there are them, .........


I giggled once and I thought I knew who I was..

It's nice to giggle. It's even better to giggle with friends.

It's not nice to see friends just vanish..





2928) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598782)
Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Nevada?


We look to the stars often but to hear from people in Nevada would be better.

Why are we still banning folks on the ground when our job is to search for new life forms in the heavens?

What if we found some aliens and they were almost as annoying as me.

Would we ban them too....

2929) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598769)
Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

You KNOW who you are, why don't you just asquiesce with a little bit of dignity and go on your way...


I haven't quite worked out who I am...

Oops Did you mean me? - I have no dignity and don't really care much :o)

Hegemony... Divide and rule by parts...

Did someone ask why Esme was not a member here? I thought she was but haven't seen her here for a while..

Oops..
2930) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598750)
Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Don't worry, cRunchy. Bans only last a week or two.
Now ... where's Waldo?



But why?

It is quite frightening that any or all of us could be robbed of our right to speak..

It's not nice to think I could also be robbed of my freedom whenever.

Where did you say DogBytes was?

2931) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Man acquitted of loud singing in park (Message 598734)
Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

It would be nice to live somewhere where the police are visible. They used to patrol in pairs all over the UK at one time. Now you don't see any. I mean, who are the tourists going to ask for directions? Yes, and also to make you feel safe?


Maybe I am mad but I still feel safe in the UK.

I have not been attacked, shot at or cut up..

Sometimes someone is rude to me but nothing I could not handle.

It's a relatively safe society 99% of the time.

There are always those that go beyond the pale but we can deal with them.

Youngsters of whatever age will always be naughty.

I don't live in a nice middle class area.

Who needs police to walk around when the majority know they should try and be better..

I do not feel safe because there are more police.. I feel safe when there is no threat.

2932) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598662)
Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Oh god...

Did someone change the name of this thread or am I going completely loopy..

Has Eric Korpela also been banned?

Is everyone banned...

Am I here alone..

cRumbs..




2933) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Man acquitted of loud singing in park (Message 598598)
Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The police officers should have just smiled and passed by..

Like they do when a car is parked in the lot vibrating the neighborhood with its big sub woofers expressing its 'freedom to annoy'... ;)

Ahh well I don't know what local laws or whatever you have inyour part of the US but here in the UK you can be arrested for doing this under the public order act AFAIK,but I know what you mean I live on a Main road and in the evening rush hour you can hear the base rattle the windows long before the car gets anywhere near you.Makes you think that the driver is as deaf as a door post or soon will be.


I am so glad I live in a country where the police are not above the law. (We can still arrest them if required...)

It's nice to be quite.


2934) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Man acquitted of loud singing in park (Message 598548)
Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I would rather my neighbours sing than play their TVs so loudly.

I spent some time in an Afghanistan refugee camp in Pakistan.. No one sung..

Only people who feel a little free sing.

The police officers should have just smiled and passed by..

It is a crazy world when we stop people from expressing their own sorrow or joy.

Singing is part of us..




2935) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Boogie woogie piano........ (Message 598524)
Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Blues


Very nice!
And who is that, may I ask?

That is Esme'!!! You didn't know?


I did not know either..

It breaks my heart to see such talent banned from these forums..

I guess those of heart have a difficult path to follow.

I am quite ashamed.


2936) Message boards : Cafe SETI : HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY AMERICA! (Message 598503)
Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
4 July 1776 is a date in history which will be remembered for all time.

Happy Independence Day America!


People that make themselves free are always to be respected.

There are a lot of wounds to heal and much shame to forgive.

Today is America day.

Freedom is for everyone regardless of country, colour, religion, sex or value.

Any day is our day..

Today is for America.


2937) Message boards : Cafe SETI : HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY AMERICA! (Message 598384)
Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Happy 4th of July


Have a great day folks.


2938) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598382)
Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Happy 4th of July


Have a great day folks.



2939) Message boards : Cafe SETI : HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY AMERICA! (Message 598150)
Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

4th of July.

It is a USA day.

Have fun people.








2940) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . exercisING undue authority (Message 598133)
Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Maybe men are just monopolistic cowards.


But if they were just like you or me they would be just as scared to not be in control..

No Yemeni started our race.

Men do so many bad things.. Some are worse than others but no individual is beyond saving...

Why are we so obsessed with the Yemen?




2941) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery clouds (Message 598122)
Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:







In 2006, similar clouds appeared over Antarctica.


Oh god.. I never realised the world could be so colourfull.

Thankyou.


2942) Message boards : Cafe SETI : To Dance (Message 598098)
Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Have we forgotten how to hold each other and dance?

To hold each other so softly and move with grace.

When the little pretty things we do mean something less than more.

Do people still dance?


2943) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . exercisING undue authority (Message 598070)
Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I can not take away the suffering of others but Yemeny women are not so poor of soul.

What about those that stand up and make a difference.

The world is not perfect.

In the western world we are quite lucky.

A Different Beat....

2944) Message boards : Cafe SETI : you are all Good people here at the Café you are all winners in my books! (Message 598055)
Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

If I could be so good I would.

To be so close to the best in the world is almost like being better.

Have a good time Hatch.


2945) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Isto (Message 598050)
Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Ah and i thought its somethin on me native language...

Isto - the same


Perhaps your language was trying to tell you something..

We do because we are..

Sort of :o)


Isto - I've Got You Under My Skin

Isto - Once Upon a Dream

2946) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Isto (Message 598043)
Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:




The Nearness of You.

I Always See Rainbows.


Isto Unbound.



Lovely and strange.. nay?




2947) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UK - Smartphones (Message 598012)
Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I use a palm based Treo 600. Not the latest phone but it works nicely for me.

My network is Orange and I have a price match contract. (£15 per month for 750 minutes free + 50 SMS texts..)

I use CSD data (14KB modem) for internet when needed.. Not perfect but it's free evenings and weekends.

What do you actually want from your "SmartPhone"...

Do you prefer Linux, Windows, Palm,..?

Why are you asking about UK based Smartphones when you are from the USA?

Thank you for your thoughts, cRunch.

When you say "CSD data" is that part of the Orange service, or additional? Mostly I'm interested in e-mail, minor internet (stuck at the airport, need other flight times, find me a hotel, where is x pub, sort of thing) and texting. I couldn't care less about a touch screen, or Linux, WinMo, or Palm.

And I will be in the UK for a least a year, starting in early Sept. So I would probably buy it outright, I wouldn't want a contract.


CSD is basically the same as the old 56KB data / modem services.

Most CSD services act the same as a voice call.. Normally the same cost but CSD on other carriers is 9KB but Orange a few years ago expanded their service to be 14KB... Sometimes ;o)


To be honest if you are going to stay in the UK then you would be better using standard local phones (landlines)..

If you want to call the US or other countries then use a redirection service.

I have PM'd you a service that is far cheaper than most local services.


Hope that helps.


Where will you be staying in the UK?

cRunchy.




2948) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UK - Smartphones (Message 597982)
Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Any of you have any thoughts on them, your experiences, your recommendations? Carriers in the UK? Plusses, minuses? Seems Virgin Mobile can't be bothered. Orange doesn't have a phone number I can call from the U.S.

I've been looking into the HTC S730 due to hit the streets in August, or the present S710.

Anyone have any comments? Ideas?



I use a palm based Treo 600. Not the latest phone but it works nicely for me.

My network is Orange and I have a price match contract. (£15 per month for 750 minutes free + 50 SMS texts..)

I use CSD data (14KB modem) for internet when needed.. Not perfect but it's free evenings and weekends.

What do you actually want from your "SmartPhone"...

Do you prefer Linux, Windows, Palm,..?

Why are you asking about UK based Smartphones when you are from the USA?


2949) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ok, how about this then? (Message 597515)
Posted 2 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Snips Stuff...

Well ... I guess these must be acceptable.





Hi-fArt and historic politcal pootyness are OK...

I even posted several artistic nudes and a godly hermaphrodite and no one even blinked.

Hold on...

My little niece is giggling about how projectile those guns look. (I would tell you what she actually said but it was rather child unfriendly.) She is so rude.


Now all we have to do is work out what Art is good and what Art is not so good...

I feel a nude historic statue coming on .....





2950) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan (Message 597490)
Posted 2 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I've got a couple of his Cd's, but I haven't played 'em for quite a while.



I get all Sufi sometimes and sit on the floor and wave my hands around like a looney.

I try and play my tablas but with all the hand waving I just seem to make the dust swirl..

2951) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How To Kill A Thread? (Message 597484)
Posted 2 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


Well, Qui-Gon does apologize for mistakes, so that is a positive sign.

But the thing most folks want the moderators to apologise for was not, in my opinion, a mistake. And I have said so to those involved. Right Mike?


I'm not Mike :o) but the point is valid for everyone.

It's politics and sometimes we say sorry not because we did something wrong but because we are sorry that the other person was hurt or effected by what we did.

I often say sorry but I do not always mean I did something bad.. I am often sorry because I know I can be a royal pain to others in the pursuit of what I think might be good..

It's quite a British thing to say 'sorry' and 'thankyou' so much but few understand that these have two sides.

Did I miss the point?

Sorry :o))))



2952) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How To Kill A Thread? (Message 597340)
Posted 2 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I wasn't refering to mod's only.

If people do not like what I say then all they have to do is step over the mark and my post will be pulled.

How To kill A Thread:


    Be a bad mod or poster.
    Dislike the poster and post something no one would ever accept.
    Post any old rubbish.




(I post to be heard not to hurt..)
. (I guess I failed.. :( .

2953) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ok, how about this then? (Message 597298)
Posted 2 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:








Wow.. you are here...

.. and it's great..

Nothing like a Greko Brit, Germanic, Chinese, Soviet image to get the day started...

What an entrance..

Hi to you :o)))


2954) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan (Message 597289)
Posted 2 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


You either love or hate him:


Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan - Akhiyan Udeek Diyan

Rough Translation:

O my friend, come to my home,
I’ll welcome you with Open arms

My eyes are longing to see you,
my heart pines for you

Ever since you have been cross with me,
even the crows have fallen silent on my threshold

All the joys have vanished,
the merriment’s are gone

Today I have learnt the meaning of the parting

O my friend, without you I’m lonely
What have you there where you are dwelling?

I go up and down the terrace to look for you
My soul is without peace and the eyes are devoid of patience

I cannot forget your handsome countenance
the love torments me and I cry out for you

O my love, I beg you to come,
and then don’t leave me you have won, I’ve lost

Come to my abode
My heart cries out for you to come

If the ascetic comes to me,
all the quarrels will end and I’ll embrace him with

all the formalities

O Buleh Shah, at last, my beloved has arrived
He has shaken the threshold of my abode

And he has conquered my heart
Though he has come in disguise yet he has captured my heart

Though He is the Creator but He has come to me in human form

My heart has been conquered and I still pine for love.






Love or hate him?



2955) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 597200)
Posted 2 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Pagan huh? that's a new one for me...


I see no snow but a moon rising above the crown unto which the cat bends itself.

"Pagan" was not meant as an insult.

I said it to mean something earthy and un-tamed.

I fall over often :(

It's ok.

Sorry.

2956) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 597015)
Posted 2 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...
I actually have a large version of this one and it's one of my favorite dragon pics.

my avatar is the master image I use on the internet- from forums to messengers. I clipped it out of the logo shield for the USS Sarken - a star trek RPG group I'm involved with.




Dark, pagan and moody.

How does this avatar represent you on a personal level?

2957) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 597012)
Posted 2 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Get an invisible one much better.



The glory of being seen has it's price...

... but if nothing else just to be seen is so nice :o)

2958) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 597003)
Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
bringing this thread forward again, as a curtsy for cRunchy :)


Ignore those boffins of language :o)~

Language and images are all we have on the net so mispellings and misimage can add such wonderful flavour.

I knew what you meant and am more than honoured.

2959) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Free avatars!!! :) (Message 595054)
Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
They say "nothing in life is free".. Darn Fools.

You could always steal other peoples avatars and chop em up and mangle them to your own liking :o)..

Who said free meant charity? :o)

I have a few bits and banners that might give someone somewhere an odd idea: HERE



Anyone can use my stuff because it's cRap anyway..





2960) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What do you do if you encounter a bear? (Message 595020)
Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Sorry..my bad.

I thought the title of the thread was...

What do you do when you encounter a beer?


I smell badly too..

I thought it said "What do you do if you encounter an Esme ES99"...

Personally I would just love to have been so fortunate...

... and then I would run for the nearest pot of honey....



(I think I fell over again.. Oh Poo..)

2961) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How To Kill A Thread? (Message 594928)
Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
It's not my personal threads.. It's more the ones I join in sometimes.

I join in because Berkeley has given me the facility and more than that I wanted to.

If someone wants to have this thread banned, killed, deleted, hidden or moderated all they have to do is post an "over the top image" or say something that even the most annoying of me would not say.

Do you know how blooming annoying it is to spend my time typing my usual cRuddy responses to a thread only to find the thread was killed whilst I was trying to respond?

So why the hell do they not kill my thread and kill every thread I ever posted to prior to me posting?

Some of us push the boundaries because we are not the perfect creatures.

Some of us push the boundaries because if we do not do this those in power forget we are here.


Oops.. I forgot.. Some of us push the boundaries because These Are OUR Boundaries to push..


Members or modulators that push too far end up with nothing..

I want more.







(Oooh look.. there is a bird to chase.. hehehhe.. Can I have some sweets please.. )

2962) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How To Kill A Thread? (Message 594908)
Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
If someone wanted to destroy my post or thread all they would need to do is post an extreme image or say something most other people would not care to post.

I am no prude and really do not care about bad language or lost thoughts but I so love that I have the chance to talk to people here..

One of the threads I recently posted to was killed.

It was one of those threads that lived on the edge.

Why the hell do some people push too far?

Is it because they do not know the boundaries or is it because they simply wanted to kill the thread?



We Move.







2963) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Abigale Washburn - How Cool Is She? (Message 594595)
Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Folkish Music.

I love Washburn's 'Lost Lamb' & 'Travelling Daughter' songs...

Abigale Washburn - The Sparrow Quartet in Beijing


What's your favourite folk music (from your country or from another).. and why? (Links loved..)




2964) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 592386)
Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Has anybody seen my lunch?


I think she went that way :o)

2965) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 592224)
Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:



Pulling me back on topic..

I think my avatar's hair looks like straw.

I wonder if anyone ever met me off this forum they would recognise me?



2966) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Free avatars!!! :) (Message 592208)
Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Is Sarge saying I an missing?

I think I exist, and I can find myself as I can touch me!

Is this good enough?


You just like touching yourself..

Enough said we think ;o)~


2967) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 592175)
Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Sorry..

Didn't I say that the cards were just like random feathers that fall all around?

Maybe you are more lovely than you want us to know. Nay?

<We just shuffle the cards.. We do not choose them.>


Why sorry? It was interesting to read.

I wouldn't really describe myself as 'lovely', but they were certainly right about calculating.

:)




Sorry because sometimes it takes time to calculate how lovely we really are...

Hope you liked the first card most.

Heros all.

2968) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 592171)
Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


Madam cRunchy has now gone on holiday..

No more card readings please :o)

2969) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 592169)
Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Do me! Do me!





I wanted to only choose one for you but it did not feel right so you got 3 cards...

"9 of Cups", "Queen of Swords" and the "3 of Disks".

. .

Such things are only made by chance.

The 'Queen of Swords' is a dangerous creature. She is a liberator of minds.

When she sits between two others we have no choice but change.

Chance realised. Hopes made fact.

Something done will be valued highly.

2970) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 592139)
Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Such is the soul that feels warmth and so is the calculation of thought.

The purity of being is so felt here.

When the 'Princess of Disks' appears we all fade away and something very real happens.

It's so good to see the sky..


Thanks, so i'm warm but calculating, pure, and when I appear everyone else vanishes.

Sounds about right. Hmm, pure, interesting concept. :)




Sorry..

Didn't I say that the cards were just like random feathers that fall all around?

Maybe you are more lovely than you want us to know. Nay?


<We just shuffle the cards.. We do not choose them.>
2971) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 592109)
Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

What fate do the cards bequeath upon me?




I love this combination of cards. Both are heros from different worlds but neither should be misunderstood nor mixed.

'The Princess of Disks' and 'Adjustment'

in balance of

Such is the soul that feels warmth and so is the calculation of thought.

The purity of being is so felt here.

When the 'Princess of Disks' appears we all fade away and something very real happens.

It's so good to see the sky..


2972) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What do you do if you encounter a bear? (Message 592072)
Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Advice please. (For those of you that already posted some in another thread please repost. I would like to see it).


Eat it... or be eaten.

Oh sorry I was looking at my dinner...

Teddy bears are so cuddly.

Give it a big cuddle...

What was the other threat about :o)

(Sorry meant thread.. I Can't spell..)

2973) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 592016)
Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Spirituality...?

Spirituality is for those who don't want to pick a side... ;)


Yes.

It's perfect when you think about it.

To want something more and feel something more but to not know what it is.

It is quite pointless and without side.

Religion told us to love people.. That sounds like not taking sides.

Science tells me there will be no winners in a war.. That sounds like not taking sides.

There are no sides... Unless you mean yours of course...


I don't mind people of religion nor people that walk the practical world.

They all walk in this universe.

I much prefer those that neither attack nor fear others.

I don't mind people of no side as they just live and care.

What if there was another side... and it did not have to be big nor either end of the stick.

What if the best side was just here..


I think I swallowed a bug.



What if..



2974) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 591935)
Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

LOL I think it is funny how such a little blond blue-eyed nosy boy can make us believe he's an adult man -- or is it an adult man pretending to be the little boy on his avatar? I'm confused.


'nosy' .. no doubt but I never thought you would be the one to catch me out... It tickles...






Would you mind to ask the cards about me?


First was 'The Ace of Cups'... but then 'The Star' followed.





Deep inclination. Fluid. Blood and wine turned to water. Clarity if you make it so.


2975) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 591846)
Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I need to leave England for a warmer climate...?


You mean anywhere that is not affected by our global coolness :o)

The sun shines and you are here.

It's enough. Nay!


<Chariot & Sun - Movement without doubt. A Path.>
2976) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 591833)
Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
My lips are very kissable.. Sometimes.. maybe.. not.. somehow..


I so much wanted to believe....






I tried to pull a cRowley card for you but my arms fell off. After picking them up you got two cards most entwined ;o)~


&


I am happy with my cherry lips..

You go interpret the cards...




<Someone must want to kiss me? Maybe :(>
2977) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 591809)
Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
cRunchy, somedays I like your avatar and other days it annoys me. Not sure why? I think it's the lips.


HeHe...

That's not the avatar that annoys you somedays.. That's me :o)

Sorry..

My lips are very kissable.. Sometimes.. maybe.. not.. somehow..

I like my lips.. they are attached to me :o).


As for mine ........ I like spandex.




I wouldn't argue with a super hero...

It's an uncompromising avartar.

That's nice.






2978) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 591782)
Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Snips...

Madam cRunchy only does tarot card pickings by personal request now. (Avoids upsetting some people.)



Yes, thank you. :-D






Did you mean you wanted a card? I did it anyway :o)

Don't thank me yet though.

You got the Aeon Fuzzy



Every act a source of radiant glory.

It's a moment in which we step.

A defining choice.

Everything in flux has boundaries even if not seen.


2979) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 591766)
Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
At least I know mine is not 'fantastic', but *is* worthy of me. It is, after all, my picture.





I really don't understand this .. I picked up my cards this morning threw them in the air and you got 'The Magician' (magus)..



cRowley says:

'The true self is the meaning of the true will: Know thyself through thy will.'

Don't let intelligence interfere with your everyday world.

Well you did ask :o)

<Madam cRunchy is going to sleep now :o)>

2980) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who Are You? (Message 591544)
Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP cRunchy & kenzieB stuff...

Crunchy. I think you misunderstood Kenzie's post.

She wasn't stating that you flamed anyone. She was simply saying ( I think ) that it's much easier to type insults about a person if a one doesn't know anything about the person they are writing the post about.

Once a little information is known, it becomes a bit more difficult ( for some ) because then a human factor has been added to an name and avatar.


The flavour and implication of what we type has ramifications.

I PM'd kenzieB earlier and she responded.

I may well have misunderstood.

I wish I wasn't so forward sometimes.

It's kind of unavoidable amongst people with strong beliefs I guess.



Sorry kenzieB.

I mess up sometimes.

I did pick you some wild flowers but got hungry and ate them...

I can't eat my smile so if you let me give you a really big smile I hope that makes things a little bit better.



2981) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 591531)
Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
It is, after all, my picture.

You might want to keep that a secret...

j/k... ;)


Jeffrey the ant?

Ant-ipathy?

Ant-icipation?

Ant-ifungal?



Such a cute half shy half brave ant...

Do you remember Adam Ant? (Or Dirk Wears White Socks?)

Why is your avatar you?

2982) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 591526)
Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


LOL Not at all, cRunchy. And I'm enjoying your Tarot presentations.


Madam cRunchy only does tarot card pickings by personal request now. (Avoids upsetting some people.)



You are always so nice but the more interesting question is whether your avatar actually represents something about you?


What is it? Or are you really the sun kissed shampoo woman??



2983) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 591522)
Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
At least I know mine is not 'fantastic', but *is* worthy of me. It is, after all, my picture.





Do you ever use a non-you avatar on other forums?

Have you ever thought about enhancing your avatar by enlarging and composing your image?

I thought about sharing my real-life image but I did not want to scare people :o)

Why not have both 'fantastic' and 'worthy'? Enlarge and centre?

I like symmetry :o)


<If you want a tarot card PM me and I'll post it in the thread.>

2984) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 591514)
Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


You won the 'Ace of Disks' Mr Tall Body :o)



The world isn't static. It starts to turn. Energy and revolution..


2985) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 591503)
Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP....


It reminds me of a little brother on Christmas morning.


We are just little puddings :o)


I plucked a card for you and you got the 'Prince Of Disks'..



The fruits of earth, ingenious and thoughtful.




If not a picture of you it probably says a lot about what you believe.




2986) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 591477)
Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I'll believe anything :o)

As for the little blonde chap....a very caring soul, with a deep concern for his fellow humans.


As you said... You will believe anything :o))

Do you want to buy a four leged car?



2987) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 591474)
Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I'm not a fan of this avatar, it seems loud and scratchy to me. "Messy Orphan" is what it says to me. What's it supposed to say to me?


You are not supposed to insult your own avatar.

That's for us others to do :o)



I never really understood your avatar.

Is it an image that represents you somehow?

You get the cRowley card treatment toooo :o)

You got the 'Knight of Disks'



Fiery and earthy. Natures growth.

The knight of disks creates mountains, has gravity and makes the earth quake.




(Sorry if I was too naughty.. :o)~)
2988) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 591460)
Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I'll 'ave to go an 'ave a cuppa..and then read the leaves.

In the meantime...fire away on this months avatar.




I think i'll need to get my Alister Crowley set out for this one.

Black & white suggests a sense of authenticity.

I only just noticed he is wearing spectacles.. (just goes to show how close I normally look.)

He doesn't want to be king... he is lifting his crown off..

Do you shave your arms Keith ;o)

I pulled a card from my Crowley pack and you got the 'Princess of Cups'




The cards suggest you are rather 'voluptuos'..

Just goes to show you how bad a card reader I am :o)~











2989) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 591437)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


It would be nice to hear what someone reads into my avatar even if personal.

Be even better if someone could read my tarot cards..

Even better if you joined this thread then we could get real curious about your favoured image.




2990) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 591430)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I am my self so are you.




I keep thinking of a helicopter when I see your avatar..

Then when I look again I see someone deep beyond under the water.


I wish I could swim and was not so scared of the water.

2991) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 591422)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
i dont mind the pic of the boy it looks pretty cool.
How's mine?





It's purple and blue with a dragon creature in the deep abyse.

It's quite a fertive avatar.

The folded blue makes me think of fallopian tubes.. Kind of fertile


What does it mean to you?




2992) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 591369)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

If you know how to be kind please do so.

If you have no good bone in your body remember this forum has moderators.

Please only remark on folk's avatars that post in this thread.

It's not a destroy people thread.

I will ask the moderators to kill any post that refers to someone who has not posted in this thread.


I will start with my avatar

So you either like or dislike my boy?

I kind of like him.. He was me after all..

So shoot me down..

Go be naughty..

2993) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 591342)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...

Edit: @cRuncher - It's okay, but I liked your previous avs better. ;)



Sorry Beethoven I can't remember... What was my previous avatar like?

2994) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 591051)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Oh darn.. are we still off thread?

I was hoping to go out shoping...


2995) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who Are You? (Message 591026)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


Sorry. I tend to form most of what I say in a direct way. No insult meant.

But wouldn't you like to know how many females were involved in SETI and their backgrounds?

Go on.. please say yes :o)


For a wee baby, you have a wonderfully smutty mind ;))

I do like the idea that people are sharing information about themselves. It is easy to get into flameing people when we only see them as avatars. But when people realize that there is a real human being on the other keyboard it makes us pause and consider what we type (I hope!)


I might be a wee baby but smutty stuff were never my first thoughts.

Flaming... No.. Did I do that :(

I would love to be more than erudite. I'm not I guess.

I just asked if we could ask more than we already knew.

No one steps up.. even you...

Please show me where I flamed or mistreated anyone or else my post will get moderated.

I want all of us to be equally blessed.

I will happily step out of this thread now.


<PS: I never read the blooming "Mr Wizard" thread... Who really expected me to have?.....>
2996) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who Are You? (Message 591018)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


Can we take your post as the start of a good set of questions and broaden them?

What was the reasoning or hypothesis behind these questions?


The reason for the age question is in the Mr Wizard thread. The gender and nationality questions are out of nothing more than my curiosity. The faith question was simply a baaaaaddddd idea (sorry)
As for the rest of the information: people just seem to be tagging stuff on.

As for using the thread to broaden the questions: feel free. The thread is public and open to mining by anyone with an interest.

Information given to me through the PM systems is, however, confidential and is between me and those people. Sorry, but I'm very strict about that!

Also this is not, in any way, meant to be a serious study. Just idle curiosity and fun :))



Sorry. I tend to form most of what I say in a direct way. No insult meant.

But wouldn't you like to know how many females were involved in SETI and their backgrounds?

Go on.. please say yes :o)



2997) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 591005)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP My Pants...

What religion should someone like me follow?

Now you can be cheeky :o)~


well, judging by your picture. You should be on My Space looking for....


"Looking for" what?

'My_Space' is mostly full of non-descript personalities and files!


You are the second person to mention my avata this week.. What gives?

I don't mind but I'd rather people finished their sentences.

So speak... please...


2998) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 590984)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
What religion should someone like me follow?

Now you can be cheeky :o)~



The Church of Calm Chaos!!!!!


Cool.

I would if I did not already belong to the people in the house of TFFE. <may god have mercy upon them all..>

Cheeky geeza :o)

I mean what if someone doesn't believe in god, nor science, nor philosophy, nor what they can touch, nor what they feel (emotional or seen), nor a book.. What are they? (Except screwed...)



2999) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 590980)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Please don't ask me to read back 260 posts to try and fathom an answer...

I am not religious nor agnostic nor atheist nor humanist.. Can anyone tell me what I am? <without being naughty or rude..>

I guess I am a bit stoic and a bit post modern in the way I see the world.

I think most people and most of nature moves towards the good.

I know that there has been lots of bad things that have happened but history and the fact we are still here suggests that most of what humans have done has been better than bad.

What religion should someone like me follow?

Now you can be cheeky :o)~

3000) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My age showing....Vanishing Point. (Message 590975)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Never had orange hair, and it's mostly grey now. So you gotta ask yourself.... Do ya feel lucky??


Not now.. :(

It's your thread...


3001) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My age showing....Vanishing Point. (Message 590966)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The early 70s were memorable for you?

Were you a punk rocker?

I so hope you had green and red spikey hair :o)



You don't remember Smokey and the Bandit?

How old are you??


No :o)

I don't remember how old I am either :o))


You were a punk so don't hide it :o)

HehehHeE.


3002) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My age showing....Vanishing Point. (Message 590960)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The early 70s were memorable for you?

Were you a punk rocker?

I so hope you had green and red spikey hair :o)

3003) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer to forget the crazy redhead that visited me 1 year ago today, a few days before my 38th birthday (Message 590935)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... SNIPs...
I don't know why Budweiser would want to produce such a rumour given Guinness tastes like crap anyway..

My rumour came from before then I think.

There is even a plant in Alabama.



Nah, it's your tastebuds that are crap, mate. Guinness is the nectar of the Gods. (When not polluted with Wild Turkey whiskey anyway, the flamin' Guineess bit is just for the show).


So neither me nor the majority of the people in Eire favour that black crud but if you like it it's OK.

I'm teasing you sort of.

On a hot summers day I prefer either a lite and cold lager or a tall glass of water with ice and a small amount of whiskey or just ice chilled water without anything.



Out of interest you called me "mate"??? Is that a normal US term? I thought only us Brits used that term! I'm just intrigued.



3004) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer to forget the crazy redhead that visited me 1 year ago today, a few days before my 38th birthday (Message 590915)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


Isn't the majority of the worlds Guinness produced in South Africa?
....


Wasn't that a recent Budweiser rumour??


I don't know why Budweiser would want to produce such a rumour given Guinness tastes like crap anyway..

My rumour came from before then I think.

There is even a plant in Alabama.



3005) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer to forget the crazy redhead that visited me 1 year ago today, a few days before my 38th birthday (Message 590912)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


Isn't the majority of the worlds Guinness produced in South Africa?




(Still don't know what this has to do with a redhead?)
3006) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who Are You? (Message 590905)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP The cRunchy CRAP...

In the evolution of my Mr. Wizard thread, I had posed the question as to what the median age of a Seti cruncher was. The rest was her idea.



She does what she will...




3007) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer to forget the crazy redhead that visited me 1 year ago today, a few days before my 38th birthday (Message 590887)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIPitudes...
@crunchy - now you know about the flammable part ;-)


Everything burns if you raise the temperature enough...

I like the sound of your truth serum....

I don't think I will try it though in case I look in a mirror.



3008) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How do YOU define happiness? (Message 590878)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
What do you feel when you feel happy?
When are you happy?

Can this feeling ever be really defined?

What do you think? :)


On a simple level I feel happy when I join in on this forum and either I am able to, or others can, make our conversations flow.

It is so nice to feel I am part of things sometimes.


The feeling of being 'enjoined' always makes a difference for me.

If you don't try and quantify it it is like falling down knowing a loved one will catch you.



It's absolutely magic when it happens.



3009) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer to forget the crazy redhead that visited me 1 year ago today, a few days before my 38th birthday (Message 590877)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Must ... drink ... more ... hearing ... fireworks ... outside ... reminding ... ne ... of ... last ... year.


You will never live this down.

Nobody loves a tease.

A problem shared is a problem laughed about.

So who was this girl with red hair?

Wasn't your uncle was it?



3010) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 590875)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Does anyone want to see any porn?
SNIPED HORRID INSECT PICTURE


I would rather watch MJ shave his toes :o(

3011) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer to forget the crazy redhead that visited me 1 year ago today, a few days before my 38th birthday (Message 590870)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...
LOL! And, as far as I know, you are also male.
The redhead was female.
Nothing sordid.
But, I am so busy, when I tried to tell someone the story in PM, I only got through Chapter 1. :)


Male or not I still wasn't the one :o)~

Please share everything here and then you don't need to PM anyone.

I'm a voyeur :o)


3012) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer to forget the crazy redhead that visited me 1 year ago today, a few days before my 38th birthday (Message 590866)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
OK, not quite all. We met in 1986.



I don't have red hair and I never visited you.

Please tell us more about your sordid past :o)



3013) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 590859)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
MJ's latest endeavor . . .



If we drank 5 bottles of vodka and ate a whole field of poppies this might make sense..

Don't tell me that MJ has now grown long black glossy hair..

That's just rude :(





3014) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who Are You? (Message 590853)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Me.,

    Age: Old enough to write & type.
    Gender: Me.
    Country: Born in UK but European by blood.
    Religious / Philosophy: I breath the same air all of you do. Not religious. Not Agnostic. Not Atheist.




I'd of been far more interested in the educational and socio-ecconomic background of SETI members.

My question would be whether Berkeley & SETI would ever be interested in reaching out to the working classes (60 or 70 percent) of the world's population to raise it's crunching ability?

85% of our higher education facilities are filled with middle class students.

If we did a real poll of the SETI populus I think we would find a similar statistic.

If we did a gender based comparison I am also sure we would find a low number of females.

If we took a look at english to non-english speaking people we will find the same disparity disregarding the world balance for languages.

If we looked at colour of skin we may also feel ashamed.



kenzieB

Can we take your post as the start of a good set of questions and broaden them?

What was the reasoning or hypothesis behind these questions?



3015) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 590825)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIPs.....

Son.. I am beyond words...

Don't tell me you are a Brummy?


zummerzet- where you left me 20 years ago, saying you was only getting a paper.... i still need that paper. the lid of my shoe box has blown away. how could you do that to me? oh. another seagull with a chip. be back in a mo


That explains it. I never thought that that sheepess with the big loving eyes would ever get pregnant... Your mom was so beautiful in the twilight.

When I left for the Shanghai Times paper I didn't realise it would take me 20 years to reach the local newsagents.

Anyway don't worry I saved you some bubblewrap from my latest eBay sales.

Did you ever get married son?

I was such a poor father :(


3016) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 590810)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIPs.....
fairshout. i cant compete. you win. i cant see the screen to type what i want to say because of the tears in my eyes. you brought back so many memories of a forgotten childhood and i have to ask..... are you my dad?


Son.. I am beyond words...

Don't tell me you are a Brummy?


3017) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 590801)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


My psychologist told me I had earlier problems too...

Funny but she's the one wearing the straight jacket now...

Oh me..

and u say i is middle class? cor. if only i could afford a psycholomethingymebob let alone say it. i only got a dead dog to talk to......


The state provided that psychologist.

They said I was not worth a real one so provided her dead already in a straight jacket.

Are you telling me you had a real dead dog to talk to?

My dad found a dead dog once and all of me neighbours mugged him.

I could smell curried dog for a month.

Mt father said it was the way of the world but after 30 days of boiled toilet paper soup I just blamed the government.

If you think you have it bad you need to wait until your mother sells her toe nails for a thimble of water.

You never had it so good.


3018) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 590785)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP SNIP... <evil grin>

i'll get the hang of it one day. just practice. as you can probably tell from my earlier problems.


My psychologist told me I had earlier problems too...

Funny but she's the one wearing the straight jacket now...

Oh me..


3019) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 590756)
Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


Anyone remember the Moomins?



i do. how about button moon?



Were off to Button Moon
Following Mr Spoon...
Button Moon
Button moon


That's cool but don't you think teddy had a rather naughty voice?

Button Moon - Scruffy




3020) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 590739)
Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


Anyone remember the Moomins?




3021) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 590716)
Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Black-headed_Gull_-_St_James%27s_Park%2C_London_-_Nov_2006.jpg

the seagull won!

i not far from coast yes but too far really for town luxeries. me, jimbob and fred are just contemplating moving to a more central shoebox for the extravigant food like 'chewing gum'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:ThreeHobosChicago1929.jpg



The BB code is [ img ]http://xxxxx.jpg[ /img ] for images... (without the spaces.)



So you are an upwardly mobile shoebox family?

We don't have the strength to pick the chewing gum up... we just lick it for nutrients.

My mother was taken by a pigeon last week after she went out early to see if she could find us a slug to cook..

You sound like royalty :o)




3022) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 590710)
Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:




Cute.



3023) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 590698)
Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

i have just found a new place to make home now. it gets cleaned by tidal waters twice daily and i now having a fight with a seagull for a chip.

You are lucky, this is the food we get where I live





You mean the side of a building? :o)~


Bile Beans :o)))) You must poot...

3024) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 590696)
Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP

They say that being British is like living in a land paved with gold. They don't know what they are talking about :(

Those road sweepers are pure evil.

They come up and down my road twice each week and steal all the food off the pavements.

I just don't know how we live.


you must live in a posh area to have food on the pavements and twice weekly road sweepers.

How i long to live in an area like that.
where is this place? sounds like heaven to me.
i have just found a new place to make home now. it gets cleaned by tidal waters twice daily and i now having a fight with a seagull for a chip.


Yes we have food on the pavement. Old chewed chewing gum is quite nutitional and the road sweepers took cousin Seth away last week..

Seagulls and chips? That means you live on the shores of Blighty?

I live inland where we only have genetically disformed pigeons.

At least a good sized seagull could feed a family of 5 shoebox people for a week... a pigeon with manky feet is only enough to feed 2 for a day :(

Are sure you are not upper class?




3025) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 590690)
Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The Legend of Hungry Mother
SNIP....

Well, I didn't really expect a real answer to my question. Thank you!!


Ohh.. I quite liked the story even if it was on-off-on topic. Grrr.... Sorry...





3026) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 590685)
Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
OK, your job is to name a State Park.... How do you come up with this?

my shoe box was there. you can see the crushed remains... how did you know where i was?


Huh!.. So you were not so poor hey... you had a mobile shoe box!

You middle class or something :o)~



3027) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 590672)
Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Crunchy, you've got mail.


I love mail...

Thankyou.


3028) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 590671)
Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...
I hope you can afford pudding now.


trouble with living in a shoe box, there is nowhere to hide it from the local urchins. and the council keep demoloshing my home with their road sweeper. would pull my hair out but thats how i stay warm on those long cold nights.......


They say that being British is like living in a land paved with gold. They don't know what they are talking about :(

Those road sweepers are pure evil.

They come up and down my road twice each week and steal all the food off the pavements.

I just don't know how we live.



3029) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 590655)
Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
How much are you going to test that stuff?

HINT: just click <Post reply> once then wait for it. If you click it again while it's thinking about it, it'll post again.



Maybe that's a job for the "volunteer testers" :o))

3030) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 590654)
Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP....

Every crimble my parents would bring out the xmas pudding, pour over it some warm Brandy and set the thing on fire...

Us kids would blow it out before all the brandy burnt off...

Happy hour..



we were so poor we never could afford christmas pudding let alone brandy. i tryin to make up for it now. only another case to test........


Now I feel really sad :o(

My parents had to sell my brothers and sisters over the years to buy the xmas pudding and brandy but I was so glad that I had extra space in the bed for the year to come.

I hope you can afford pudding now.



3031) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 590641)
Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


You like Molotov coctails?.. You're not an anarchist are you!

That would be very off-topic...



LOL!

No...but stuff I have every now and then is likely to be flammable...



Every crimble my parents would bring out the xmas pudding, pour over it some warm Brandy and set the thing on fire...

Us kids would blow it out before all the brandy burnt off...

Happy hour..


3032) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 590637)
Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Oo.. Now that begs a question.. Do you like plants or great spirits?





Green with a touch of pink.. The great spirit knows how to make plants!


3033) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 590634)
Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...

I heard you staggered out but everyone else had to be carried out... Ruffian :o)~



All my years of brawling, of pummeling the unsuspecting and the deserving, have yielded two insights. You can either fight, or you can run. All other strategies are variations of these. ( - Geglash (Diablo 2) )


The peasants are revolting... They hate water also..




3034) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 590628)
Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...

Oo.. Now that begs a question.. Do you like plants ot great spirits?



Spirits, though nothing of the carbonated type. Beer = slumming it (to me, YMMV) Besides, beer tastes nasty to me...


You like Molotov coctails?.. You're not an anarchist are you!

That would be very off-topic...

3035) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 590623)
Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP....

Beer is always off topic for me...


So what gives you a kick....

Chamapagne?



ROFLMAO!!!!

Wrong direction...


Oo.. Now that begs a question.. Do you like plants ot great spirits?

3036) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 590621)
Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
[quote]SNIP....

I don't know about that, but once I walked into a bar and walked out again.

Usually I stagger out ;)


I heard you staggered out but everyone else had to be carried out... Ruffian :o)~


3037) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 590618)
Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP....

Beer is always off topic for me...


So what gives you a kick....

Champagne?

3038) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 590614)
Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I fell off the back of a lorry and went bump.

Got your PM, & am addressing it(so to speak) at this moment.



This is clearly outside of topic... shouldn't we have a tripartite reference to both 'on' topic, 'off' topic and something 'outside' of topic altogether?



<Glad you're back Finkle' doing mayhem.>
3039) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 590609)
Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
[quote]
I fell off the back of a lorry and went bump.

I once walked into a bar and said ouch


There is always another bar and always another beer but when one goes ouch it's time to take the beer and run...

Are we off topic yet?


3040) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The off-topic Thread (Message 590585)
Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I fell off the back of a lorry and went bump.



3041) Message boards : Cafe SETI : School Gestapo bans touching (Message 589485)
Posted 20 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Yup giving me the poisonous look ever since i forgot to feed it...


Did no one tell it that the red lipstick should go on the lips not it's head?


3042) Message boards : Cafe SETI : School Gestapo bans touching (Message 589476)
Posted 20 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
DONT touch me !


It's OK I wear thick rubber gloves when typing on my krapboard...

Is that frog your girlfriend :o)))))~


It looks so edible...


3043) Message boards : Cafe SETI : School Gestapo bans touching (Message 589460)
Posted 20 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP....
....School penalizes students for hugs, high-fives...


Sounds like a good policy if you regard that many people do not like their personal space invaded.

I wouldn't want to "penalise" children (or anyone) though for being communal and natural.. That's quite disgusting.

Personally I would offer my hand to anyone (male, female, young, old etc..) and if they did not take it I would perhaps be a little bit hurt but as long as they kept talking to me I would get over it.

It takes two to hug...

The news story pointed to is not very informative.

I think the school would have a serious legal, moral and political problem if two brothers or two sisters wanted to hug each other...

Most of the kids I know are quite shy to even shake hands with people they don't feel comfortable or safe with..

I suspect the school has gone a little mad.. and the news reporter is far less than clever :(


3044) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Mike the Mod - June 20 (Message 589441)
Posted 20 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I´ll try to have fun.
Mike


So what's going to happen Mike?

Big cake., family stuff., take time off work., or do something very naughty???

I'm kind of hoping you will run around the town shouting naughty words, eating very sticky cakes and go kissing all the girls - <on the cheek of course> :o)

(Then we can talk about you lots :o)~


3045) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is to follow the laws always right? (Message 589408)
Posted 20 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Will you SETI crunchers hear me or are we billions of people outside of the USA's 120 or so million not to be listened to?



Uhh.. cRunchy, I think your figures need to be updated a bit. The USA's current population is around 300 million, not 120 million. 301139947 according to the CIA's estimate for July 2007 (next month's estimated figure).

It hasn't been 120 million since just prior to 1930.


Sorry for my very late reply.

Yes my figures for the US seem to have been wrong.

I think I got confused with the Pakistan population figures :o)~

Mai maafi chaati hui <=Sorry>

As you say the CIA put the USA's population at:
0,301,139,947

The CIA also puts the 'worlds population at:
6,602,224,175

That means that the USA makes up about 1/20th of the worlds population.

About 1 in every 20 people on this world resides in the USA.

I am genuinely surprised by those figures.

But if everything we hear is true about the USA then I am happy that such a significant proportion of people on this planet enjoy freedom, security and hope for the future..

I hope everyone can enjoy at the very least hope.


3046) Message boards : Cafe SETI : the Sommer is comming (Message 589391)
Posted 20 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Woke up early and my CPU is saying 60 Deg Centigrade... (Probably because it's ruining SETI, a video and this internet session.) <Yes I said 'ruining'>

In the daytime I certainly know summer is here. My fan CPU grinds and my motherboard sweats.

The mosquitos are massive in the UK and some of the spiders I have taken out of my house needed a dog collar, whip and leash.





(I misinterpret spelling., Like I misinterpret life - With burnt fingers..)
3047) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Mike the Mod - June 20 (Message 589379)
Posted 20 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Such a special moment.
Magic things happen.
Thoughts of you.
Today is a day of all days.
It's Yours.




Hope you have a great birthday Mike..

Go crazy and party like mad...




3048) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is to follow the laws always right? (Message 587677)
Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Ever hear of "jury nullification"...?

Yes.
You may have heard about that case about the teen that got sentenced to 10 years in jail for having consensual sex with another teen. It's been all over the news. Well if I was on that jury I would have done everything I could to keep that kid from going to jail for TEN YEARS. So if that meant ignoring the law and hanging the jury I would've done it.


I never heard about that.. Ten years in custody for enjoying sex.. That law is numak haram..


You say teen! What teen years do you mean?

O Cr@p some of my pre-teens get rather sensual..


Who could hate god's creatures so much that they would imprison them for feeling so alive :o(

Does this have some relationship to berkeley's version of what is "kid friendly"?

OK.. I'm being naughty :)






3049) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Simple Moments. (Message 587615)
Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Walking my dog Emmy through the fire break trails through the bush.
Quiet time, I love it.



"Fire Break Trails" - What's that?

3050) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Simple Moments. (Message 587612)
Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I love sports. Unfortunately...Cricket is one of those games that just makes me sit there wondering what the hell is going on....lmao

I have heard about Cricket matches that take days at a time. ... SNIP


Let's face it I'm so called British and even I think cricket is crap...

It's like drinking thick imperial syrup....

3051) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is to follow the laws always right? (Message 587609)
Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
As far as I am aware British Law (and most other legal systems) state that it is OK to break the law as long as you are trying to avoid or circumvent a greater infraction.

In other words you can walk on the grass without penalty if you are trying to stop someone stealing the grass.

You can swerve your car into the siding as long as you don't hit the pedestrian.

You can stop the traffic as long as you are stopping a pile-up.

You can shoot the thief as long as you are stopping them from shooting other people.


I know the law is owned by the rich and powerful.

But I like common law.. which is sometimes still observed.. sometimes..



We should forgive those that take absolute risks to make the world better..



3052) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is to follow the laws always right? (Message 587600)
Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Aw, crunch, are you going where Sarge did with his 'I can't drive 55' thread? I there nobody that can say they have never broken a law?


NO.. "Sarge" and "cRuddy" are spelt differently..

I don't know anyone I don't like on these boards.. some folks I have a greater affinity with. I hope that's normal?.

I have broken laws... but I hope I have not broken what makes us better.

3053) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is to follow the laws always right? (Message 587541)
Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I supppose one could consider it 'right' to disobey the laws when they don't coincide with your morals or beliefs. But would that extend to the bombing of Oklahoma City?



I won't go there but if Oklahoma City was full of bubonic plague and every single citizen there wanted to kill me and all the children in my town I would seriously consider bombing them big time...

Back in the real world I challenge anyone here on these SETI board to come forwards and say they have never ever downloaded or used some piece of software that they should have paid for but did not...


3054) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is to follow the laws always right? (Message 587533)
Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I was one of the people in the UK's 'Poll Tax' riots..

Actually I didn't riot I just marched with my friends and I never saw a police officer hit any one.

If the law said I should kill anyone that had green skin I would rather die myself.

I think it is a matter of degrees.

Some people would happily report someone for being 'something' others couldn't care less..

Are you asking the question because you have just broken the law Thorin.. HeHehe.. Tell us :o)

3055) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is to follow the laws always right? (Message 587521)
Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


You sure this isn't a US thread?

<Big gRin>



Of course it's a US thread.



Pants! Is that an 'us' (as in the any person) or a "US" (as in people from that big country) type us...

Can I join in?

3056) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is to follow the laws always right? (Message 587518)
Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Ever hear of "jury nullification"...?


Oi.. I thought you were in the UK?

I am...I told everyone I would have net access...going over to Leyland this morning.


You might have told everyone else but I'm happily rather ignorant of everything...

I hope you have a big whacking stick!

When in England do as the English do!


3057) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is to follow the laws always right? (Message 587509)
Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

SNIP...
I know the 'Immigrant..' (and 'Gun') thread were American ONLY things but let me just stop you for a moment...

Do you want my ideas?

Can I join In?
SNIP...


Actually, Crunchy...Thorin is from Germany so I don't think the " American Issues Only " tag would apply to this thread...


Darn.. I was trying to make a statement even if I did it in a cRappy pathetic way.. I tried.. Sorry :(

"Is to follow the laws always right?"

NO!

I think our laws (mine in the UK) should be our best hopes and our protection..

They should never be something to be followed but things to be achieved or mark the borders of our falling.

But then I am mad..

You sure this isn't a US thread?

<Big gRin>

3058) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Simple Moments. (Message 587498)
Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

There is nothing else like it that I have ever found.


Ice.. Lying down on ice is rather cool (no pun)..

The sky above the clouds is so blue and the air is so cold and everything is so clear...

To each their own world.

I love the smell of a warm evenings and jasmin.

I hate sport but if you like cricket I guess that is OK :o)~


..




3059) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is to follow the laws always right? (Message 587489)
Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Ever hear of "jury nullification"...?


Oi.. I thought you were in the UK?


3060) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is to follow the laws always right? (Message 587485)
Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
To take up an idea from the "Illegal Immigration - right or wrong" thread:
I wonder if it's always right to strictly obey the laws, or is it better to take laws as a guideline as long as they are morally and ethically right?



OK..

Let me be me..

I know the 'Immigrant..' (and 'Gun') thread were American ONLY things but let me just stop you for a moment...

Do you want my ideas?

Can I join In?

Will you SETI crunchers hear me or are we billions of people outside of the USA's 120 or so million not to be listened to?

I know if you are American you need to talk about your own things but SETI is a world wide community..??

I fall apart being alive... but I so want to join in...

Is this a US only thread.... yet again :(

Or can I talk to my friends regardless of their birth or blood..

Sorry for being me.. again..

3061) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Simple Moments. (Message 587428)
Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Sitting at my favorite place by Saginaw Bay...watching the sunset on the Fourth of July, and sticking around long enough to watch fireworks displays from a few miles away.

It's quite something to watch. Last year I was able to see something like 10 cities/towns fireworks.

It's a very peaceful thing. :-)


Wow. reminds me of standing on the hills above Portsmouth town (Southern England) new years eve 2000 with hundred of others.

The city was lit up below us and the sky suddenly filled with both public and private fireworks.

It was a kind of noisy bright loud type of serenity :o)


3062) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Simple Moments. (Message 587426)
Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Huh? Single mothers with large oranges from Mars?
Oh! Simple moments in large oceans on Mars!
:)


You got me :o)~


3063) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Mystery Solved: Mars Had Large Oceans (Message 587022)
Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


Did someone say mars has large oranges?




Unstable spin

As a planet spins, the heaviest things tend to shift towards the equator, where they are most stable. Earth, too, has a bulge at its equator. The volcanic Tharsis region of Mars, a vast raised area along Mars' equator, is evidence for how this works.

"This is the reason why this discovery packs extra punch," Perron said. More than a billion years ago, he explained, something happened in the way mass was distributed on Mars to cause the imbalanced portion to shift toward the equator-and allow the vast shores of the Martian oceans to warp.



In the case of earth our 'wobble' is to some degree controlled by the mass of our moon.

Unless there was some major impact on the martian surface is there any evidence of any extreem gravitational forces that could have altered Mar's axis a billion years ago?

From what I see water (or fluidic elements) are heavily influenced by gravity regardless of atmosphere (given they could actually be the atmosphere)...


Where do I buy these large oranges from mars?





3064) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Simple Moments. (Message 587009)
Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
What takes you to other places?


    A bowl of quality creamy mushroom soup and fresh buttered bread.
    Standing 10,000 feet above sea level looking over a decending mountain range.
    Seeing the sun rise over a misty field at 6am.
    Watching my sister turn her head and smile at me.



In these moments I stop thinking and could just simply die....

What are your WOW moments?

What takes you away and makes you forget yourself for a moment?

What stops time for you?



3065) Message boards : Politics : Gun ownership..........right or wrong?? (Message 585301)
Posted 11 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Prohibitions on Firearm Sales

The posting of 'rules' from someone who can't seem to follow 'rules' is quite amusing... ;)


Maybe there are no real rules!

Someone stole my pictures in this thread. Whose rules were they.. Certainly not my cultures.

I am a nice vegetarian anti-gun, anti-violence, anti-escalation creature..

I'm very perfect but even I don't know if rules exist..

It's rather frightening.

Then some local mad creature shoots at you.

Then it's just sad..

Or..

It's a them thing..

Even if I hate it..

They can be quite naughty sometimes..

Grrrr...




"Gun ownership - right or wrong??"

No no.. I don't want a nuke..

(oh me.. )
3066) Message boards : Politics : Gun ownership..........right or wrong?? (Message 585273)
Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


An official Disney collectable...




Cool..

My Popeye collectable just stands there and tries to eat spinach (the crapest food ever) and my Mini Mouse makes looking cute a swear word.

I might just shoot them both..

Disney loves killing.. No guns now but big blasts of power shooting from jands..



(My kids read this thread then fell asleep bored... Sorry kids.. I'll buy you a weapon tommorow... Promise... :))
3067) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I Chat, Therefore I Am... (Message 585203)
Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
ALICE AI....


Oi!!!! Will you lot stop chating up my girlfriend...

She loves me not you...



3068) Message boards : Cafe SETI : the Eastern WOrld - it is exploding - (Message 585153)
Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
What the hell? You mean Holland and Denmark are about to explode??

Sorry Dutch and Danish friends but you have to go :(

Bye All! (Wave..)





(I won't be scared with you..even if I am. :( )
3069) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is where the fun begins! (Message 585129)
Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
My husband dug these out for me today and told me that as a 'kid' they were fun to play with.

<SNIP Big Picture :o)>

I'm guessing that this may not be "kid friendly" these days anymore. For God's sake those little guys have guns, grenades and bazookas.

[edit] bayonets and knives too.[/edit]


If you're amazed your husband played with guns then what did you play with?

I played with killing toys as a boy. My now niece plays with the same killing toys.

I shot them.. but my niece tries to feed the blooming little creatures..

My sister just bought my niece and nephew a big game consol that is just full of shooting and killing things.

Kids TV love shooting things..


However I know you must prefer big fun stuff..

It make us more lovely....



3070) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is where the fun begins! (Message 585125)
Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

You have to be joking!!!!!

Bjork has been off her head for years, she is a total nutter!!!


the point being..

I like nuts.. and.. so..

.. it's fun wearing big pants....





3071) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is where the fun begins! (Message 585107)
Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Why do you open two threads.

I would think there'd be a fair amount of obviousness to this. Why do some people sometimes make double posts? More often than not, it is because their connection to the forum has slowed down, they press the stop button on the web browser and then press the post button in the forum again.
Please go ahead and delete/hide the second one.


I do this sort of thing sometime because I am not really normal.

I often go to edit my posts but press the reply button sometimes.

All power to Fuzzy Mod as she deletes them quite quickly before anyone sees my lack of human co-ordination. (Thanks :o) ..)


Let's just get back to having some fun.. (they are all big kids here really..)


WOW.. fun.. such a big small 3 letter word but so special...

I wish I could be this much in fun:


Big Time Sensuality.




(Where the pants is Demiurg?...)
3072) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is where the fun begins! (Message 585082)
Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
This is where the fun begins! ;)


I can feel it.. Something big is coming...

I hope I don't have to wait too long...





3073) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Kids Art (Message 585067)
Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:




I have tons of pictures by kids but they are probably mostly child unfriendly to berkeley...

I love your bomber birds though. Hope they don't do too much destruction.


The flowers look a bit like big bomb mushrooming things?

Sorry.. I misinterpret everything... Me being stupid or childish I guess.

Lovely picture.



3074) Message boards : Politics : Gun ownership..........right or wrong?? (Message 584867)
Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
@KWSN Majorkong: I wish I could have expressed my opinion on this
topic as elequently as you have...well said. I agree...

@ cRunchy You also have made some very good points are well, but most
of them revolve around child rearing and not proper gun ownership and responsibility.

Then there is the usual thread hijack spam...oh well.


Grr... Dismissive pants and affectations.

One of the worlds largest killers is malaria... Lets go shoot mosquitos.

Let's blame criminals for our right to use guns.

Let's hunt even though 99.9% of the industrialised world eats farmed foods.


As the only dissenting voice I give in...

I suspected it was always going to be mostly an American discussion anyway. (OK I accept people will tell me off for this truth :o))~

It would have been good to hear from other countries that also had such a strong belief in the right to hold firearms.


Maybe if I visit the US I should take a bazooka..

Grrrr...




3075) Message boards : Politics : Gun ownership..........right or wrong?? (Message 584797)
Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Please do not embed pictures of weapons in this thread.

The main justification for this is that such pictures are not kid-friendly, particularly when collected in a thread which otherwise purports to be a serious discussion of a complex and controversial issue.

If you prefer to have all such threads hidden as flame-bait (or whatever) I am sure everyone who wastes their time trying to give you a civilised platform for intelligent discussion will be only to pleased to oblige.

SNIP..


Hey!!

I tried to offer some level of serious discussion.. I don't think I wasted my time... and I would not oblige to the killing of this thread.

I hope I wasn't child unfriendly in my words.

When I was a child I was bought replica guns, soldiers, tanks and various toy killing machines.

My niece and nephew more recently loved watching monsteroid robots with big killing things attached or playing kill em all etc on their PC.

I am not saying this to be aukward but I think for me (from my perspective) it makes a real good point in the context of this thread.

We grow from child upwards with a certain normality that seems acceptable.

Some of these experiences like pain, ageing, hard work and eventual death are life's realities.

If people here in this thread who support the freedom to carry guns are to be accepted then I guess they will teach their children that shooting others or being shot at are part of lifes normality however unwanted.

I would never let my youngsters accept the ownership of guns as a right. Other cultures obviously have a different value even if they do or do not always say it out loud.

What is acceptable for our children?

Who's (or which country's or culture's values) do we follow when we decide what is child acceptable?

If we asked if 'gun ownership was right or wrong' should we also not ask whether we are willing to share our prefered culture with our children...

Should we teach them how to shoot and the best locations on a humans body to target so as to train them not to hesitate if they were ever in threat?

Should we teach our children how to avoid escalation?

Should we teach them not to watch Bugs Bunny and the Road Runner as they try to shoot or blow each other up?

Should we teach our children to avoid reading words and pictures about our (their significant adults) way of life?

Valid points somehow...


3076) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Internet Radio (Message 584637)
Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Take a look at the web page for "Screamer Radio".. and check out their 'Radio Directory' pages... Tons of stuff. (3200+ stations listed.)

It's also one of the smallest and best freeware radio apps on the net.

http://www.screamer-radio.com


The rock and indie section has 75 currently active stations.




3077) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 584616)
Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Krazy Karl is sitting here at the coffee shop and says he does not know how to help me hijack my own happy b'day thread!


Blow up the candles, take the cake hostage and hold Finkleberry's hair cut to ransom for a piece of cheese...

Or just party till you drop.




3078) Message boards : Politics : Gun ownership..........right or wrong?? (Message 584611)
Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I do not believe that owning a gun is a 'liscence to kill'.... snip...


Wrong! It is assumed that if you have reasonable cause to believe that your life is in mortal danger, you must shoot to kill. Discharging any firearm is considered a deadly act...a none lethal shot will only piss them off more. ...... snip...


This make absolute sense. Any attacker has already had 30 or so minutes for their adrenalin and blood to get pumping so are probably hyped up and working overtime to start with.

..and unless they are a seriously depressed or druged out attacker "they WILL want to live just as much as you do" and will do anything to survive when in mortal danger including shooting back if they still can however badly wounded.

Shoot to totally take the person down is the only real option when the stakes get that high.

:(




3079) Message boards : Politics : Gun ownership..........right or wrong?? (Message 584480)
Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
BIG SNIP.. Sorry :)

You know if you look at the 'experienced' crime statistics (not people in prison but the reports of crime) the greatest changes in the UK happen near to major political changes not any changes in gun or other law.

Crime levels as reported by our communities are now as low as they were 25 years ago though they did peak at the end of the last conservative / start of this labour governments rule.


It is also well known that the spin and glitz of our current rulers results in heavily massaged figures, including crime figures, which then favour them to the extent they look good.


Sorry if I didn't make myself clear. The statistics I refered to are from a long term UK trends survey of what people in the community felt they had suffered as crime. (Not from the police or court or prison records..)

They do not relate to what the government or police want to project.

Obviously all statistics are still questionable but I think these are quite interesting:

* ALL CRIME - British Crime Survey data

I won't add any more as I think I made my point and if not then here are my basic points:


    I know all our cultures are different.
    I want extreme restrictions on guns especially for bad or stupid people.
    I would rather be chased with a knife than shot at with a bullet.
    I understand if you have a gun pointing at you you have but one chance.. 'Survive anyway you can.'



I guess I am anti-owning a gun without a damn good cause.


3080) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Mike the Mod - June 20 (Message 584409)
Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


Happy Early Birthday Mike


and you won't escape the bumps on your special day..


we're waiting.. hehehehehhe





3081) Message boards : Politics : Gun ownership..........right or wrong?? (Message 584394)
Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

In my view the main mistake Tony Martin made was not shooting and killing both burgling intruders to his remote farm property. Remember, he had been burgled several times previously with nil or poor police response.


I think the case of Tony Martin (Court Appeal Transcript Link - 2001) is not really equal to the average case in the UK.

If someone came into my house and had a weapon and refused to flee when I appeared I would pick up the nearest and best weapon I could to disable them.

I personally could never, in a clear mind, aim to kill anyone unless that was the absolute last option.

In an adrenalin or fearful state I am sure I would probably feel like bashing them to nothing.

I know it might be different in a country where guns were easy to get for both criminals and law abiding citizens alike..

I am just so glad I don't have to face that many guns here.

Are we saying that if someone slipped through your window in the US and had no gun or weapon on them it is legally acceptable to shoot them with no warning or hesitation?

What if you warned them and they put up their hands and turned to step back out the window? Would shooting them still be legal?

You know if you look at the 'experienced' crime statistics (not people in prison but the reports of crime) the greatest changes in the UK happen near to major political changes not any changes in gun or other law.

Crime levels as reported by our communities are now as low as they were 25 years ago though they did peak at the end of the last conservative / start of this labour governments rule.

Fear is also a socio-political-cultural thing.

For me the less pointy bangy things we have sitting around means less chance of them being fired.. Is this ilogical somehow?

Mind you I have quite a few big staby things lying around in my home... but as long as any intruder is a good runner they probably won't die.




3082) Questions and Answers : Web site : Use of Private Messages (Message 584366)
Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I have never received a pm on this board.

The total is 5 so far, thanks guys.


You got 6 now...

Wait til it's 60... Then you will beg for a 'delete all' button :o)




3083) Message boards : Cafe SETI : LPT Poot Wins, #4! (Message 584358)
Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

What's been masticated?


I didn't know you coukd eat yourself?

POOT1 POP! POP! POOT!




They say yoga, lots of oil and plenty of pooting makes one ultra flexible. :o)~




3084) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The future of online business (Message 584340)
Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
want to be an internet Millionare you had beter hurry cos the EU commisioners want to make it even more difficult All websites to be in evry language of the EU 27 to date read the article below to learn more

SNIP...

This potentially obliges online sellers to understand and apply 27 different sets of consumer law, and to provide information about terms and conditions in the language of every member state where customers are located.

Websites would potentially have to be re-engineered to ensure that users were clearly pointed to terms and conditions in their own language.

SNIP...



If I was in the UK selling to France it would make both damn good bussiness sense and good etiquet and manners to also have my webpages, terms and the consumers rights and obligations in French.

If I also at the same time did not understand French consummer law I would be remiss.

When I buy an item in the UK I expect certain rights (like fitness for purpose and the right of return) why shouldn't I expect that of any other country. Why shouldn't I be able to read my rights in my own language so as to avoid confusion.

If small bussiness can't do good bussiness then I won't shed any tears that they get caught out by the law.

I saw nothing in the article though that say bussineses have to write everything in all 27 languages... and if they did have customers from all of those states they could hardly be called a small bussiness.

Even if companies had to present the law of the country the person was buying from all they would really need to do is cut and paste the correct paragraphs..

I see many German net sellers using English and giving their terms and conditions in English..

Is the underlying assumption behind this report that the 'language of the internet' should be 'English' and that there should be no laws that protect consummers?

Maybe we should all start learning a variation of Chinese..





3085) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 584322)
Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:





It's like Christmas.

Only 18-ish days to go.

You better stuff a pillow down your back pants Sarge as we're going to give you the bumps big time..

What is it now? 1236 bumps? (= One bump for each month you have been alive..) :o))


Can't wait.. hehehhehehhe







3086) Message boards : Cafe SETI : LPT Poot Wins, #4! (Message 584320)
Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Bloody hell, been back two days and been moderated as many times, seems they've been reading '1984' a bit too closely!


To the last one: that message wasn't hostile, this one is approaching it!


What's been masticated?






3087) Message boards : Cafe SETI : LPT Poot Wins, #4! (Message 584297)
Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


...pooting while taking a exercise break.


If I leave my boots outside the door for polishing I hope there won't be big white smudges on them when I come back!! errrrrr..




3088) Message boards : Politics : Gun ownership..........right or wrong?? (Message 584295)
Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I was actually considering creating a thread like this one a while ago and was kindly asked not to do so.

Msattler chose to ask the question, people can answer or not answer.

It's to be expected that there will be two very different viewpoints. But there is no reason that things have to devolve into nastiness.

Wether one thinks someone's opinion is right or wrong, everyone should try to respect the opposite view.


I can't understand why anyone would ever want a gun unless for hunting, sport or protection.

If many people in a single country believe they 'must' have a gun then that says something either about the culture or the general feeling of safety they have.

On that level I actually find it interesting to see how people feel.

I'd really find it interesting to hear what gun owning but non US citizens felt.


I don't think anyone has been disrespectful so far.. I hope I wasn't?



3089) Message boards : Politics : Gun ownership..........right or wrong?? (Message 584293)
Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
We define and classify murder into different degress here, so yes there is a difference of prospective there. The one case I chose, I did so because I was there in the neighborhood, when it happened. Punks are again a difference in American/English slang.


I know the slang... I was being facetious :o)

I have been in many neighbourhoods here and yes know of lots of people who have been harmed. I also know of the majority that haven't. Anacdotes are emotive but don't help much in discovering truth.


...and lastly, I wasn't trying to shout you down; nothing personal. I was just stating things the way I saw them, and you did yours which I disagree with, but at the same time I can respect it.


I know!... but as soon as I read the OP's post I knew this was in reality a US-centric post.. I just posted to add a different perspective.

Maybe US citizens are more sane than us in the UK.. But I'm glad my neighbours don't have any guns ;o)



3090) Message boards : Politics : Gun ownership..........right or wrong?? (Message 584286)
Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I'm a UK citizen so the ownership of firearms are not really an issue for me as here they are heavily restricted or just plain illegal.

SNIP MY BLAH BLAH....

RIGHT. But also in the UK, if someone breaks into your home, rapes your spouse and children at knife point, and you use equal force with a knife and kill him, you are had for murder...there are no self defense laws in the UK.

The last time I was in England was last December, and I was staying with a copper friend (Greater Manchester Police) and his wife and child. One block away, a punk broke into an 83 year old veterans flat, robbed him, and beat him so bad he almost died. If that old man had used a firearm, or anything else to defend himself, he'd be in jail right now.

Anyone who breaks into my home is going to be on the receiving end of a 12 gauge shotgun loaded with 3' 00 magnum rounds. I am allowed by law to assume that my life is in mortal danger, and can act according to save my life. I live in any area rife with drug dealers and narcotics, and they know not to mess with me because the worst nightmare of a hardened criminal is an armed victim.

Look at the statistics after Australia disarmed their civilian population.


Firstly you would not be done for murder. That's an absolute misunderstanding of UK law.

Murder requires some level of pre-meditaion (similar in the US I believe.)

The UK has a self defence law but not all laws are specifically written for good reason. The presidence is that you can use "reasonable" force.

"Equal force" is easily misenterpreted:

. We are asked by law to think about what we do not simply react in the same bad manner!

Secondly a single story (anacdote) even if about an old person makes a very bad example given there are 60 million people in the UK not just the one you heard about. (Oh.. and very few 'punks' since the 1970s..)

I agree it can get damn crazy in the UK sometimes but I live here and have lived in what some would say are the worst inner city areas...

If the UK scares people then all I can say is that the US must be a palace in comparison.

I am not arguing against peoples belief they should own a firearm as part of their human or citizen rights. I just offered a different perspective from my life here in the UK.

I don't have the legal right to carry a gun without very good and licensed reason... but I do have plenty of chemicals that could kill hundreds if not thousands if I chose to do so.

Guns are just objects. The will and belief we can use them are the problems.

Obviously people in the US with it's history and culture will have a different perspective.

Maybe the thread should have been named: "Gun ownership. Which US citizens agree?"

I knew I would be shouted down :o)))

Fair game!


3091) Message boards : Politics : Gun ownership..........right or wrong?? (Message 584280)
Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I'm a UK citizen so the ownership of firearms are not really an issue for me as here they are heavily restricted or just plain illegal.

I have however been in countries where guns were carried as part of everyday life by citizens.

The only times I have ever had a firearm actually pointed at me were by police, army, malicia or political agents. (Outside the UK.)

In all of these situations I doubt having any type of weapon on me would have made a slight difference if it came to a shoot out.

I have also had cannon shells fly over my head and doubt a gun would have helped if one of those shells fell on me.

If all my fellow UK citizens carried guns then I would think it prudent for me to carry some sort of protection (not neccasarily a gun) to disable them from blowing my head off..

As to the 'right' to hold a weapon: No. Never.... The right to use reasonable protection: Yes.... The right to enjoy a sport like shooting: Yes with provisions..

But I live in the UK and guns are available to criminals and fools but not widely so.

If you have a right to own a nuclear bomb then so does everyone else. Logic should tell us that someone at some time might use this... To me it's a fatal logic whichever way you go.

A gun just takes 5 mm of finger movement and someone to be in front of the bullet for it to destroy a life.

As I believe there are more good people than bad in my world then it will be more good people than bad that get hurt.

That's a risk I would not like to take.


But as said if you and your loved ones are in danger then how could I ever question your desire to protect yourselves.






3092) Message boards : Cafe SETI : LPT Poot Wins, #4! (Message 584251)
Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Tip, don't get frustrated and slap your comPOOTer monitor so hard it slides sideways onto the floor.

Everythings gone blue.



I heard menthol suppositories make every poot feel blue and cool.

Me I think slaping the comPOOTer would be prefereable.. eek..

Anyone for an extra-strong mint? :o))



3093) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#35 - It all Ended on Thursday! CLOSED! (Message 583223)
Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Dreams. Dreams. Dreams.

It's Me!!!


3094) Message boards : Cafe SETI : LPT Poot Wins, #4! (Message 583206)
Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
cRunchy hasn't pooted yet. :(

He's pooted out!


Hehehe.. I was busy pooting in the garden amongst my flowers.. Makes em grow faster you know :o)


3095) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Globalism - good or bad? (Message 582868)
Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Globalism....


I want a united world. Not sure that could happen without a global perspective.

Globalism is a rather misused word.





3096) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Official Last Kinky Person to Poot Wins! # 3 (closed) (Message 582857)
Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


cRunchy may assume responsibility for spawning the next version of the thread. :)



I think "Dune Finkleberry" should have the dubious honor and if he won't I will do my duty for poot and country.

(PM sent to Dune...)


(And can Stacey Jane win it next time?)


She wins every post with her feminine charm and silent poots... Women grrr..


THREAD CLOSED!!! :)


I sneaked in :o))


(Next pooty thread will be coming to a forum near you soon.)
3097) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Official Last Kinky Person to Poot Wins! # 3 (closed) (Message 582847)
Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I sometimes wonder if poots come in shades of colour?
I wonder if Demiurg forgot how to poot?


I know.

Maybe he is pootin around europe somewhere?

We miss his stink..


3098) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#35 - It all Ended on Thursday! CLOSED! (Message 582842)
Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
955, and counting.


You Wish!

It's me. I can feel it :o)


3099) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#35 - It all Ended on Thursday! CLOSED! (Message 582836)
Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


Are we there yet?


3100) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Official Last Kinky Person to Poot Wins! # 3 (closed) (Message 582832)
Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I sometimes wonder if poots come in shades of colour?

3101) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Local Swap Shop & Computer Recycling! (Message 582821)
Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
UK Only.

My Updated List:
----------------

    2 x SLOT 1 700Mhz Matched CPUs with heatsinks. (& Maybe one extra.)

    Several x Older 1MB PCI VGA Cards. (When nothing else works they save the day.)

    Several x IDE HD Cables (40? Pin).

    Several x Floppy Disk Cables.

    2 x CrossOver Cat5 / Network cables.

    Several x 56KB Win PCI modems. (You find the drivers.)

    1 x D915GLVG Motherboard. <An LGA775 Board> (New-ish in box.)




Any of above are free to anyone crunching.

If the item is small and light then postage is free.

Otherwise postage is at cost.

PM Me.


(I Am in Brum. UK. B31)
(Items not for resale.)

3102) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#35 - It all Ended on Thursday! CLOSED! (Message 582775)
Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Please let me win :o)

I'll jump up and down and look stupid if I need to!


3103) Message boards : Cafe SETI : kenzie's Team Name Search (Message 582766)
Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I like team BLAME MISFIT


Erm..

We all blame the Misfit and are cross team in our convictions :o)~

Could we cope with a team full of Misfits.. well...

... that would be very very scary indeed.

3104) Questions and Answers : Web site : Use of Private Messages (Message 582748)
Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP
...I sent a Invitation (you would call it recruitment) to a Person on this Forum. They were very pleased that I would take the time to type out a personal message to them and quickly joined my Team....
SNIP



It worked and that was a success. Did you spam them or had you had previous PMs or contact with them?..

I would not like an unsolicited PM or one that was not a single personalised mailing.

I suspect I am not alone.

I have one of the oldest e.mail addresses on the net and get anywhere from 2000 to 500 spam mails per week.

It is a matter of simplicity not upset.

Well targetted mail does not bother me.

Anyone without a team should not be subjected to advertisement. They are adults and can go look at the "Team Recruitment Center" if they wish or they can specifically ask for team selection help.

It's just nicer like that!


3105) Questions and Answers : Web site : Use of Private Messages (Message 582743)
Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:



Sometimes I see free floating members on SETI and think it would be nice they joined my team.. Unless I was already in general communication with them I would never try to solicite.
I've only had one bring it up and it was the same, I was already in communication with that person.
We have the "Team Recruitment Center" for such advertisements.



It's only unacceptable because that is the evolving reaction/opinion of people here in response to such solicitations. Perhaps on some other forum, people would not mind. But, since people here generally agree it should not be done, then this should indeed be addressed.


Pardon me sir,
Who agrees? Was there a vote I missed? lol I sent a Invitation (you would call it recruitment) to a Person on this Forum. They were very pleased that I would take the time to type out a personal message to them a but nd quickly joined my Team.

May I suggest that if you get a PM you don't like, that you delete it. If the user persists in sending the same mail repeatedly, abusive or not, you report this behavior to the SETImods or Admin. Just a thought.


I see that this is in part or at least a response to me or the next poster (SARGE).

I understood Sarge to be saying he kind of agreed with my sentiment but he suggested it all depended on the outcome of general community feelings.

No Vote... Just a general eye for how poeple feel.

I agree that if someone gets the odd post they dislike then they should just ignore or delete it... but some have said they get much more than this.

These forums have no voting or volunteering ethics. We are left with just members who propose or elect to try things out.

I for one support members who try.. I even support them in failing.

No pardons or excuses.

What else do we have?


3106) Message boards : Cafe SETI : kenzie's Team Name Search (Message 582736)
Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Ice Cream for Breakfast Team! :)



Ooh.. Rum and Raisin Ice Cream....

Drool...

3107) Message boards : Cafe SETI : kenzie's Team Name Search (Message 582733)
Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
"Stinky Pants"

Even I would joint that team.. Well I would but my pants are not that stinky...

Maybe Also:

    Fruity Loops
    Melatonin Night Creature.
    Picture Perfects
    cRunchy Is Our Lord Club :o))
    The Quentine Crisps
    Perfect Groovies
    Chocolate Bunnies





Or maybe being part of no team would be good also?

3108) Message boards : Cafe SETI : kenzie's Team Name Search (Message 582712)
Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
How about:


    Explosive Girls
    Girls With Massive Fire Power
    The Big Bang Club
    The Get Lost Fun Club
    He Has Cooties but We Are Beauties Team
    Vodka Jelly
    The cRunchy Is god Team :o))
    Fascinating Things





I tried :o))

LOP.

3109) Questions and Answers : Web site : New PM system? (Message 582707)
Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Please concentrate on possible updates to the Private Message user interface in this thread.

I have started a new thread Use of Private Messages to discuss our use of PMs (both acceptable and unacceptable.) I have moved a few recent posts there.


Pants!! I thought I was responding to this thread but seems I was subjagated to a change of thread..

I'm darn confused.

Where am I?

Oh...

3110) Message boards : Cafe SETI : kenzie's Team Name Search (Message 582682)
Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Seti Sisterhood

Clowns R us
Pirates of the Setibean
CanadianCool
Big guns, bigger Attitude.
Naughty but nice
(sorry got carried away)


To add some others ideas:


    Girls In Big Pants
    Sounds Like A Solution
    Smellies R Us
    Cruel Intentions
    Star Dweebs :o)
    Stinky Crunchers
    The Bog Off Team
    Naked Creature
    Can We Really Be A Team
    Bruised Fruits
    Miss Madness



... and more



(Rutles)

3111) Questions and Answers : Web site : Use of Private Messages (Message 582667)
Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
We need a separate thread to discuss the use of Private Messages - both appropriate and inappropriate.Please continue to discuss changes for the user interface in MrGray's threadNew PM System?.
If it's ok with Beets and cRunchy as well, feel free to move all our subsequent related posts to this thread as well. :)

Absolutely NOT! Delete Sarge's and keep mine!

(P.S. Sure, that's fine by me.)


OK. Anyone can replicate or copy anything I have ever said but my personal post was made here..

I don't mind replication of my stupidity in various different places but please do not remove any of my original posts where possible. I like to fail in my own time where ever I may travel..

It's a me thing :o)








3112) Message boards : Cafe SETI : kenzie's Team Name Search (Message 582650)
Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
So, I'm thinking of starting a team, for no other reason than to stop the team recruiting spam.

So far I've come up with:

"Pirate Girls of Seti"
"Kooky Kids"
"Just Because"

other ideas for team names?


Do you want to create a specific team or a general team that all non-team people could join.

Will your team have a forum of their own or just be a 'non-membership' free-floating focus?

My ideas:

    The Me team
    SETI Members
    Crunchers



I have the cooties so the "Kooty Kids" sounds nice :o)

If you set up a 'girl' only then that also might be nice..

Hope your team creation goes well..


3113) Questions and Answers : Web site : Use of Private Messages (Message 582605)
Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...

As to separate filters for boards and PMs? I don't get spam or rubbish in my PM box and rarely see anthing on the forums I truely dislike that I could not cope with or simply ignore.


It would be interesting to hear if other do?


I get a fair amount of what I call Spam: mostly kindly folks trying to get me to join their teams.

It has gotten to the point where I have a standard reply in my notepad and I just cut and paste my thanks-but-no-thanks.


Maybe the forum mods should make a general announcement that private (PM) solicitiations for those with no group membership are not acceptable.

Sometimes I see free floating members on SETI and think it would be nice they joined my team.. Unless I was already in general communication with them I would never try to solicite.

My basic assumption is that those people who are teamless are still a member of the main SETI team. You, me and they already belong.



We have the "Team Recruitment Center" for such advertisements.

I am amazed that people or teams don't understand this.



3114) Questions and Answers : Web site : New PM system? (Message 582556)
Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Can we prioritise. I mean the forum and PM features require work and effort for those who might otherwise already have other duties.

Top of my wish list are:

1. Delete all
2. Outbox

I am sure I could add other ideas but today for me these would be a good place to start.

As to separate filters for boards and PMs? I don't get spam or rubbish in my PM box and rarely see anthing on the forums I truely dislike that I could not cope with or simply ignore.


It would be interesting to hear if other do?


3115) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Arecibo shutting down? (Message 582504)
Posted 6 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Mods...

Did we get a little carried away welcoming back the Simonator?

The last dozen posts are all welcome on Beethoven's XII, if you prefer. ;)


Or we as member could just point the thread back to it's original intent:



Arecibo shutting down?


I would like to ask whether Arecibo shutting down is really a bad thing?

Obviously we want every oppourtunity to keep doing what SETI does best but if there is something new and more powerful on the horizon I would like to explore that also.

Anyone know if a new larger telescope is being built or is this just advertising, ecconomics or politics?


3116) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Touch of Renga (Message 582430)
Posted 6 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Of days and dreams
cream cakes and smiles
she milky faced turned
and looked at me

In love i feel
lost days and nights
she banished away
and set me free

of cast, the dream
lingers sanguine
as in sights unfurled
or at least, it so may seem

Her cherry lips
turned and loved
brave hearts
have never been

My wasted kiss
found new hope
secret love
has no end

Joy like floating blossom
a moment lost but special
a hope
it is this we send

I dream the truth
you tell me lies
you hate my love
but then you smile


Below the surface
bubbling thoughts
days sitting waiting
each day a trial





(What do you reckon to making the full Renga less than 34 verses. Maybe 1/3 or 12 verses or posts then we change the theme??)
3117) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Coloquialisms and other sayings. (Message 581907)
Posted 5 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Ok.

A tramp sat by a stagnant bit of water.
A sheep went down to drink
The tramp killed it
The sheeps owner turned up with the police
Rather than be arrested the tramp committed suicide
They say his ghost exists


That is just so sheep diping naughty in so so many ways...

We love sheep and have the wellies to prove it..


3118) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Coloquialisms and other sayings. (Message 581896)
Posted 5 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIPY

.... constipated bloodhound! ....



Oh god.. now I know where Keith gets his black puddings from..

<spit spit yuck.. n vom...>


3119) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Touch of Renga (Message 581866)
Posted 5 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Of days and dreams
cream cakes and smiles
she milky faced turned
and looked at me

In love i feel
lost days and nights
she banished away
and set me free

of cast, the dream
lingers sanguine
as in sights unfurled
or at least, it so may seem

Her cherry lips
turned and loved
brave hearts
have never been

My wasted kiss
found new hope
secret love
has no end


Joy like floating blossom
a moment lost but special
a hope
it is this we send

3120) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Touch of Renga (Message 581847)
Posted 5 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Of days and dreams
cream cakes and smiles
she milky faced turned
and looked at me

In love i feel
lost days and nights
she banished away
and set me free

of cast, the dream
lingers sanguine
as in sights unfurled
or at least, it so may seem



Her cherry lips
turned and loved
brave hearts
have never been



3121) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . think 'bouT iT (Message 581842)
Posted 5 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

The Blue Angels, along with a plane from the Oracle flight team,
practice their maneuvers over the bay Thursday



I knew I was right:

Things that jump out of water and look like planes and poot lots of smoke..

WeyHey... Me.. I thought a 'bout it.. for a millisecond..

Grr.. I hate clever threads.. I always lose :o/

3122) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Arecibo shutting down? (Message 581750)
Posted 5 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

That tickles.
I was hoping for a bigger bang somehow... ;o)






Hehe, i'm quite literally "Back with a Bang!". Hello everybody :)



Oh god... That's quite scary... :o)~




3123) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Touch of Renga (Message 581748)
Posted 5 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Of days and dreams
cream cakes and smiles
she milky faced turned
and looked at me



3124) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Touch of Renga (Message 581747)
Posted 5 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
OK this is very free form and collective poetry.

Please add a verse.

Keep to the developing theme and be poetic.

(It's not meant to be a discussion thread.. Sorry :o)

No one should post more than 4 lines per post. (2 or 3 lines are OK as long as they fit.)

Please let at least one other person post prior to adding another verse.

The poem ends around post 34 so whoever posts then needs to try and close the poem gently or with a poetic splash.

If we reach post 35+ then someone else can announce and start a new Renga.

No doubt there will be several branches. We simply try and renew after 34+ posts.

Snip everything except the verses that you are responding to or just add your verse without any quotes.


It's a Renga of sorts:


The start verse is in the next post...





3125) Questions and Answers : Web site : New PM system? (Message 581678)
Posted 5 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I second the motion...and a seperate plonk function.


I third the 'delete all' function and raise you a 'sent' folder...

3126) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Coloquialisms and other sayings. (Message 581644)
Posted 5 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
More sayings:

"Trying to teach your grandmother to suck eggs."

"A bit outside my belly whack son." (Probably Northen UK.)



Sayings From The Sea (Nautical):

"Between the devil and the deep blue sea."

"Three sheets to the wind."



Of Sad Origin:

"Sweet Fanny Adams." (UK)



3127) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ZEN HUMOR (Message 581574)
Posted 5 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


It's Funny.


Now and Zen.



3128) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . think 'bouT iT (Message 581552)
Posted 5 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

. . . think 'bouT iT


I'm trying not to.. eek..

Are you saying that technology is messing up the brain patterns of fish mamals and damaging men's ability to know who the real babes are?

Or was that GPS makes men at the end of a corridor of big things makes whales mad because your babe of the day didn't devolve into a fish..

Or was it we are irradiating our sperm count?

I have cooties.. Be gentle :o)))
3129) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A world of Linux (Message 581536)
Posted 5 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...
I hear that you can do just about anything at all with Linux. Run Windows apps, Mac apps... and the millions of Linux apps, which are becoming more and more popular.


Depends on what 'everything' and 'popular' means for you...

I have a great belief in the old advertising adage: "you buy the hole not the drill."

I think it doesn't really matter whether it is a linux, windows or mac app' as long it is easy to use, does what you want and does it efficiently at the best price.


I am wondering if to get a lovely ultra-mobile laptop.. and purchase the CD for the latest Ubuntu system... shall I jump on the bandwagon??
- James


The laptop manufacturer will most likely make sure all the parts have their specific drivers (windows or mac). There is no guarentee Linux will support it fully.

I think whether you go for linux, windows or mac software depends firstly whether your machine is supported, secondly whether the OS supports what you want to do and thirdly whether you have the skills to bend the OS to your will.

I have an older ultra-mobile Vaio C1VN Picturebook and run it off Win2K but can also quad boot into Win98, DSL (Linux) and a tiny version of BusyBoxed ZipSlack I retro-fitted (Slackware for FAT32) all off the same partition. Of all these only Win2k is able to use all of the C1VN's devices.

For me it's a matter of functionality first - only then do I worry about the aesthetics.


Just my thoughts.





3130) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Arecibo shutting down? (Message 581440)
Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


OK I can take it. You can shoot me down now :o)


(Bang)

Nah, just kidding. :)


That tickles.

I was hoping for a bigger bang somehow... ;o)


3131) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Arecibo shutting down? (Message 581361)
Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Cuts threaten world's largest telescope..


Just to be controversial. That news story told us the bad news but suggested that savings might fund a new 20 times more powerful telescope.

It might actually mean we have to start the whole SETI program again as we spiral our ability to reach further and further out into the stars but would that be a bad thing?

Whilst I am all for keeping old technology in use we upgrade our (and SETI's) computers don't we and most of us forget the older less powerful technology quite quickly?

(I make this statement assuming that a new better telescope will happen and that this 'bigger telescope' suggestion wasn't just an empty promise.. Which it could be..)


OK I can take it. You can shoot me down now :o)






3132) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Arecibo shutting down? (Message 581292)
Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP..


$10 is nothing to see an attraction... If it is worth it that is.


10 dollars is nothing to see an attraction until you start taking in other expenses. Such as a flight to Puerto Rico....accomodations...etc...



That is true but is also true of any other place we might visit and want a day out somewhere.

I think that sites of scientific and cultural interest should be funded via government or charity routes so that even the less well off can benefit. That would be my perfect world though - but then in that world there would be no one too poor to pay for a day out either..

I've never seen organised trips (flight etc:) being mention here on the SETI boards. Maybe that's a marketing loss.

3133) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Official Last Kinky Person to Poot Wins! # 3 (closed) (Message 581279)
Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Looking around at all my pooterific friends.


Pooting Together.

When I was a wee nipper (erm: youngster) I had some friends who used to stand around in the playground and see who could poot the loudest..

I thought those days had past but I see I was wrong..

Kids... they never grow up... They just poot for SETI :o) <giggle>

Here's to pootin in friendship.. As my granny used to say "You don't know if someone is a true friend until you have smelt their poot!"

3134) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Coloquialisms and other sayings. (Message 580591)
Posted 3 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
....
OK...
It means...

Bloody hell! You've got big teeth.

....


"You could eat an apple through a barbed wire fence" = "You have big teeth"

Oh yea I see it.. not..



Lancashire people are just crazy funsters!


Now where did I put that big stick.....


3135) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Coloquialisms and other sayings. (Message 580579)
Posted 3 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.. you have a face like a goat? ...



No my face is not like a goat's... thankyou.


Darn cheeky thread this..


3136) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Coloquialisms and other sayings. (Message 580567)
Posted 3 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

...
Bet tha cud eat an apple thro a beard wire fence.
...



Hey...

"You could eat an apple through a barbed wire fence...."

Bloomin took me for ever to work out that 'beard' meant 'barbed'... oOh if I had a whacking stick... I would whack the whole of Lancashire for talking such potty stuff.


As for it's meaning... Well it's all too gay so I don't even care :o)

hehe...



Modulate that then :)
3137) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Local Swap Shop & Computer Recycling! (Message 580481)
Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Chris
London UK



Are you looking to make a new cruncher for yourself or an everyday PC for someone?

I have an idea and some un-named parts depending.. :o)


(Me = UK. B31.)



New cruncher for myself. 1.4 to 2.0 is not a lot but all helps.

Chris


I have a boxed and unused D915GLVG motherboard board or a 630 LGA775 chip.

They won't work together so don't ask :)

The chip should work but is untested by me.

My current PC manufacturer sold me out and never provided any BIOS updates so I have no use for this CPU.

If you can get either a chip for the mobo or a motherboard that works with a 630 LGA775 chip either one will be yours.

Let me know.

Cost is just postage but as these two things are slightly expensive we expect a photo of the new cruncher here on these boards..

Let me know if you find the needed other part.


3138) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Coloquialisms and other sayings. (Message 580458)
Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I clocked a few except this one:


...
Bet tha cud eat an apple thro a beard wire fence.
...


I am rather vexed now being unable to speak like a Lancashire lass :o)~


No don't tell me though...




(Oo.. Loved our Boodica.. She kicked everything.. Then went home... Erm.. She was actually rather rubbish.. :o/)
3139) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Local Swap Shop & Computer Recycling! (Message 580436)
Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...

I'm trying to upgrade an old Dell Dimension 8100, P4 1.4Ghz. I bought a P4 2Ghz chip on Ebay.

Unfortunately it is a 478 pin model and I need a 423 pin version coded SL5SZ.

I will do a straight swop if anyone has a 2Ghz socket 423 one, or can negotiate a price. Happy to pay all postage/shipping etc.

Chris
London UK




Are you looking to make a new cruncher for yourself or an everyday PC for someone?

I have an idea and some un-named parts depending.. :o)


(Me = UK. B31.)

3140) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Coloquialisms and other sayings. (Message 580431)
Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


A funny saying

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner


A rhyme but makes me think of 1950's TV shows and TV dinners all mixed together..

Unless of course you were on a submarine and there were but two types of package dinners to eat.

One was 'tripe' (cows guts) and the other was 'chicken'...

You would really be the winner if you got chicken...



(So glad I am a vegetabletarian..)
3141) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Coloquialisms and other sayings. (Message 580424)
Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Another Hungarian one: "Paprikash shegg". Translation: "He has cayanne pepper up his butt." It means he's in a touchy, angry mood, where anything can set him off.


I am sure anyone with lots of pepper in their pants is easy to explode!




A broad English naughty play on words thingy:


Once a King
Always a King
But once a Knight
Is Enough ...





3142) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Coloquialisms and other sayings. (Message 580402)
Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
How about:

Oh man!
Oh brother!

Why not:

Oh woman!
Oh sister!


No one in the movie world ever had a real sister or knew a real woman.

Quote: "your sister deals cr*ck and your momma was a dr*nk and your father was a wh*re"..


Erm.. hold on.. That's my family profile..

Stop outing my family 'finkle man!!


Oh sister this guy is a mad woman oh...


Sorry it was the 70s movies... they made me do it... :o))

3143) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Coloquialisms and other sayings. (Message 580384)
Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

"..Up the wooden hill.. to bedfordshire"..

My granny used to say it to me when it was time to go to bed.. up the wooden stairs.



And my Dad (and his mom) used to say "Jetzt gehts nach Betthausen, zum Feder-Ball" ("Time to go to Betthausen, to the feathers' ball"). "Betthausen" is comparable with cRunchy's "Bedfordshire", and with "Feder-Ball": this described the dancing feathers when the bed was made.


"Dancing feathers" - I so remember that feeling. Soft and ever so sleepy like clouds. Wow.

Bed was very much the place to be when we were tiny and omie said goodnight.

Then she came up giving us all kisses... She smelt of cherries and powder... It was a moment to die for.


oh. augen naß. oops.. me now..


3144) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Breakfast Club (Message 580350)
Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

3D wigglies.. Oh yea!.. grr..

There are more but if I posted another we might all go bannannasss...
(Well I would...)


I'd trade all my bans in the world for a bank filled with bananas!!





Maybe this will be a good breakfast for you Sarge?


You would need to be some sort of tropically topical bear but it's food and you can always put the skins on the floor afterwards.. Hehe..

Enjoy your ban'naana fingers..










Me I am avoiding wiggly 3d pictures..




.
.
.
.



.

3145) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Breakfast Club (Message 580331)
Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I REMOVED MY WIGGLING 3D PICTURE BECAUSE IT WAS DRIVING ME CRAZY.. SORRY :(

(See it here: http://www.well.com/user/jimg/stereo/Nancy_and_Landon's_Hearth.gif)


Nice pic cRunchy!


Yes...

3 of the same.. In the same thread and I think they are starting to drive me crazy.

3D wigglies.. Oh yea!.. grr..


There are more but if I posted another we might all go bannannasss...
(Well I would...)
3146) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Breakfast Club (Message 580329)
Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I'm a hibernating bear. :)



Being 'bare' whilst 'hypernaked'.. That's just plain extra rude.

Put a dash of ice-cream on it and go wild.

Come on.. Tempt yourself..

Mouth watering brekie goodies all around..

You know it's good for you and they have plenty :o)


3147) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Breakfast Club (Message 580320)
Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


I'm going to stick to Cheerios.







I think you have eaten a few too many of those Wigglios..


Will you stop wiggling I can't toast my crumpets...


I fink I'm becoming hypnofinkleberried..

drool... blah...

Must go to kitchen...






3148) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Coloquialisms and other sayings. (Message 580300)
Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
cRunchy: The Merck medical manual is one of the best ones out there. And, how amazing is this?!...the company has put the whole thing out on the internet FOR FREE! You don't see many companies doing that!

Here's the site for it:

http://www.merck.com/mmhe/index.html


Cheers for that :o)


3149) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Breakfast Club (Message 580287)
Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Be nice, cRunchy. :)
My breakfast: none at all.


Nice??

Well if you want to pop around half of the globe you are welcome to raid my kitchen.

Why are you starving yourself to death?


Everyones got to eat someone..


It the breakfast club.


Why no food?



3150) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Breakfast Club (Message 580283)
Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...cant't talk...eating...

Today: Strawberries, chocolate ice cream and fruit loops (all in one bowl). Also, soy milk and coffee.


You mean you added coffee and soy milk in that same bowl???

Is that a breakfast dish or a bucket?

Greedy guts...

... with big guns

... ... me runs .... bye.. oh ...



3151) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Coloquialisms and other sayings. (Message 580277)
Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
No, I really do believe you, cRunchy. The same thing happened to my dog Pooh-Bear once. I found it very disturbing. He'd run 'round and 'round in circles and looked like he'd keep it up until he was totally exhausted.

Even though it was late at night, I rushed him to the Vet on call, who gave Pooh-Bear a shot of penicillin. He was fine an hour later.


I might stop twirling also if I had a big pointy shot thing stuck in me..


In the middle ages, there was a similar disease caused by viral infection in humans known as "Saint Vitus' Dance", or Sydenham's disease, where people would "dance" until complete physical exhaustion.


The dance or the tarantata. The spider bit her.

Fear of the plague made many go mad..


Like me with my cooties but in reverse I suspect.


In my case my cooties went twirling mad when they knew they had caught me..

What can I do if my Cooties have a case of the cRunchies..




// Me Serious now: //

I wonder how many people are aware that many of those who survived beyond HIV+ may of been decendants of those small communities (extended family groups) that did not die during the great bubonic infections that affected Europe from 1350 onwards.


There's a good article on this in The Merk:


I've never looked at MERCK befor.. I will now. Thankyou..

// Me me again.. //




Anyway, penicillin fixed the problem for Pooh-Bear.


Maybe your dog was not a dog but a bear?.. and all he wanted was a pooo?..



The "Mad dogs and Englishmen" was just a play on words. ;)


Really?... So you are now saying it's not the dogs that are mad but the Englishmen..

Mmm.. You are probably right.. :o))






3152) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Coloquialisms and other sayings. (Message 580249)
Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Mad dogs and Englishmen!



Erm.. I kind of get the feeling you people don't believe my story?


I really did have an Aunt and she really did have a dog called Ringo and it really did live in the old outhouse and it really did love to eat polo mints..

It was really mad and it really did keep swirling round and round trying to eat it's own big bum or something else near it's big bum...


My big sister will tell you that she also heard loud drumming every night..

.. and she will pull your hair if you don't believe me.. So there.. eh..


However I must be honest I did lie about my Aunty getting divorced out of family shame..

In reality no one wanted to marry my Aunty after they heard she had spent time with 3 beetles and the odd cricket or two.

I still blame the dog.. He turned my Aunty into a spinster just so she would endlessly feed him polo mints..


Last I heard from Aunty she was in an insane institution still feeding the TV Polos...

The bloomin dog 'pegged it' (died) years ago..


At least the TV is happy..

Hey..

Mad Aunties and English Transvests..



(Oh god my family is going all Demis Roussos sized vests.. Can I be reborn again please.. I Beg You god.. Never be a bad forum user again god.. honest ever never.. oh.. me.)

Give me a mint.. Woof Woof.. Where's my Magical Tail.. Hehehe..

Now you all know why I have cooties. Happy Now!
3153) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Breakfast Club (Message 580194)
Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Smoked bacon, eggs, potato cakes and black pudding at the weekends...week days tea and toast.




Erm.. what's 'black pudding' again?? go on do tell us :o)))))



3154) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Breakfast Club (Message 580192)
Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Two dark chocolate bars and a cuppa coffee...I am now ready for launch.



After that breakfast 'launch' is over in the pooting thread for you dear sir :o)

Didn't someone say that breakfast was 'the most explosive meal of the day'.. or was that 'important meal'... I get confussed...

mMmm food..
3155) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Breakfast Club (Message 580187)
Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Pics, please. Man cannot live on words alone.


How could anyone not be able to live forever on the words like "to quoff some beer"..

"To Quoff" :: England's greatest phrase.

We workin class liv on it evry day gov'.. It's quoffing mighty strong stuff..



So Mr Keith Stanley keeps telling me.. HeHe..
<Get him in trouble. Not me. Chuckle..>


3156) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Coloquialisms and other sayings. (Message 580186)
Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.

OK this is a crazy one but absolutely true:


My Aunte had a dog called "Ringo".

It slept outside in the 'outhouse' (the old unused wooden toilet shack) and when it was give a 'Polo Mint' (mint sweet with a hole in it) it went totally crazy.

They called it "Ringo" because the dog was rather mad and kept going in circles and chasing it's own bum (erm.. tail... I think.. oh..).

Strange thing is:.. Every night after dark we heard the most amazing drumming coming from the outhouse.

My Aunte kept telling us that every morning when she went out to the 'outhouse' she saw Ringo playing with a beetle..

We all thought she was mad...

... until the drumming started the next night...

After many nights my Auntie eventually came in and brought 3 of those beetles with her...

Next morning my Uncle divorced her...

In court he said he thought they were the crickets and had always hated musical beetles. <scratches head..>



Moral of the story: Don't give your dog 'Polo Mints' (or have a mad Aunty..)



Spooky mint eating mad circling drumming doggy stuff...

(This was an ".. and other sayings" production... I think.. <Scratches head again..>) HeHe.. Hope no one noticed me :o)~
3157) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Breakfast Club (Message 580163)
Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Bacon and Eggs,bread and butter and a pot of tea(unless it's Mon-Fri then it's just the tea 0445 get up time)


Then it's over to John's everyone for bacon butty and egg sarnie on the weekends.. Cool!



We won't go on a weekday though as he needs his beauty sleep :o))



3158) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Breakfast Club (Message 580161)
Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Smoked farmhouse cheese stuffed mushrooms and 2 kippers, hot buttered toast with chunky marmalade and a large black coffee with honey drizzled to taste.


Oh my holy gourmet.. really? <cRunchy's gob' open wide!!>

I'm coming 'round your's tommorow for brekie' along with a thousand other mouth watering crunching munchers...




('Gob' = 'Mouth' - UK Slang)

3159) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Breakfast Club (Message 580135)
Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Welcome to the any zone breakfast club.



Today a yummy soft and warmed french poppy seed bread with melted butter and a big spoonfull of nice and cold Mascopony cheese on the side.

To drink a large mug of strong milky tea sweetened with molasses... just like my granny use to make it. (minus the rum of course..)




So what starts your day?
(No sexy stuff please.. Yawn.. Morning :o)~




3160) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Put a candle in the window....... (Message 580120)
Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Put a candle in the window...the fire marshalls will be enraged!



Oo yes.. I like fire marshmallows.. Toasted and gooey inside.. Yum.


3161) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BOINC Task Icon (Message 580034)
Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Hi everyone,

Could someone tell me why my BOINC taskbar Icon has a White circle with a red dot in the centre?


I know if you have suspended BOINCs work you get a white dot with with two upward lines..

I have never seen a red dot..

Check and see what your settings are in the "activity menu"..

EDIT: Oops. Solution was given whilst I was messing around posting.. See 'msattler' post below....... Useful to know.
3162) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Put a candle in the window....... (Message 580030)
Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I know that some of you don't like my paraphrasing of current Seti events, but......

Ala CCR,,,


CCR = "Commoners Can Revolt"????

I have the biggest case of tiny cooties this board has ever seen... don't ask me to know what letters mean what acronyms as well.. eeek




I like the poem though..

Sorry :o))


3163) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Local Swap Shop & Computer Recycling! (Message 580016)
Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
UK Only.
--------


SLOT 1 700Mhz CPUs:
=====================

I have 2 (possibly 3 if I can find the other one) 700Mhz Slot 1 CPUs.

These come out of an old HP AP400 that no one wants.

They all work well together and come with heatsinks.

Anyone think they can use these?

You will get 1 or 2 CPUs as you wish and if I find the third one and no one else wants it you will also get that.

Cost = Free. Postage cost only.



Also:
=======

Several 56KB win PCI modems. You find the drivers.

Cost = Free. Postage cost only.



PM me if interested in any of the above.



UK addresses only and no resellers please.

3164) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Arecibo shutting down? (Message 579847)
Posted 1 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Maybe its time to start asking those 120,000 people who goto the visitor center for a $10 donation each? It wont be enough to keep it open but its a start.

BoB


I'm not familiar with the setup there but as they said the visitor centre itself would stay open does that suggest that the 2 halfs (the visitor centre and the operations end) are actually financially independant?

$10 is nothing to see an attraction... If it is worth it that is.


Has anyone here been there as a general visitor?

3165) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A useful idea? (Message 579837)
Posted 1 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I think that BOINC should be integrated into Windows so that it would run always and in many computers in the world. There are only about one milloin BOINC users. Imagine how many computers and how many Windowses there are. Imagine how many dual-core/quad-core computers sitting idle.

Windows setup could ask e-mail address and use that when attaching to a BOINC project. The user wouldn't have to do anything... Of course, there should be an option to disable the BOINC.

Is this a useful idea?

I have a bad feeling that Microsoft wouldn't support this idea...


It's kind of a nice idea but doubt the world is ready for that yet.

I suspect if MS didn't have control over what was being crunched and the way the sofware developed I doubt they would add it.

I can't see why it couldn't be added as a third party piece of software to any windows installation CD but that would be me dreaming :)

Has anyone asked Bill Gates if he actually BOINCs himself???

I guess though you have hit on a larger question as to whether BOINC or SETI exploit markets that already exist or ride on the wave of popular interests...

Internet cafe's could be a good place to exploit. 6 to 30 PC's on for 8 hours per day, totally networked and often just using 10% of capacity!

Could the SETI or BOINC network actually cope with any more users logistically or cost wise?



3166) Message boards : Cafe SETI : IF... (Message 579749)
Posted 1 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
* Cheese
* Toilet Paper
* Bread
* Cootie Cream

Oops.. No sorry that was my shopping list!


Erm my 3 wishes:

    1. A picknic with friends.
    2. A summer's afternoon that never seemed to end.
    3. A peaceful world.




3167) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Kid Friendly Posts Only (Message 579528)
Posted 1 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I see that we've all discovered the 'youtube'...

Is this the video version of cut n paste? ;)


Youtube?
What's that?
;)


An addiction and the poor bods' chance at 15 seconds of flame.


3168) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Coloquialisms and other sayings. (Message 579446)
Posted 1 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
We're familiar with "A bird in the hand..." here in Canada, but what's "Time to go up the wooden hill" mean?



"Time to go up the wooden hill.. to bedfordshire"..

My granny used to say it to me when it was time to go to bed.. up the wooden stairs.

I think Vera Lynn (WW2 UK Singer) also had the saying as the title of one of her songs.



Edit: Some aunte Vera Lynn Songs.


3169) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Coloquialisms and other sayings. (Message 579427)
Posted 1 Jun 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
"Guzzunda."

As in "Pass me the guzzunda."

Something I heard as a child from my grandmother.

It's a local accented coloquialisms from the Midlands in the UK.

Guzz'unda = Goes Under

It's a 'chamber pot' or the pot that 'goes under' the bed at night time.. I.E: Before indoor toilets. (stinky too..)



One regional saying from the Midlands UK I used to quite like was:

"Hand me the Brummie screwdriver."

Brummie = Birmingham UK (An affectionate name for my city & people.)

Screwdriver = Hammer :o))

Basically "pass me the hammer".. (Strange people these Brummies :)



How many people from outside of the UK know these ones:

"A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush."?

And

"Time to go up the wooden hill."?





3170) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Official Last Kinky Person to Poot Wins! # 3 (closed) (Message 579408)
Posted 31 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


People who poot in the tub after adding bubble-bath always seemed a little kinky to me!




3171) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Official Last Kinky Person to Poot Wins! # 3 (closed) (Message 578198)
Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Well, Demiurg, since I started this idea (though inspired by the Captain!), I suggest we let a lady win this one when it's time. ;)


I give in...

You are all too naughty for me.

I did a poot.. oh yea.. mmm

Maybe I'll pretend to be Captain.. he.he.. that's a plan he.he



(I'll just go talk to me and my voices over here in my little corner.. Don't mind me.. Pooty people.. oH :(



Let's hope no one noticed me.. bye..
3172) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Official Last Kinky Person to Poot Wins! # 3 (closed) (Message 578173)
Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

OK you all poot but won't anyone look at me with my big pooty medal..

Look I won poot number 2 contest..

Please look at me before my waving hands fall off.

I won and my best angel won with me..


I actually won something.

oH.. me..

3173) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Quiet Time (Message 578110)
Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I look at the earth
I look at the stars
I look at my fellow man
And I think
And I think some more
Why wasn't I born a star child
Anywhere but here.........


Here's a grown up star child for you.

3174) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Quiet Time (Message 578104)
Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Yodeling.



You mean lusty crotch beer hungry yodeling bunnies?

I hop not...


3175) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Quiet Time (Message 578081)
Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Sleeping!


Night Night Hope the Bed Bugs don't Bite.

Bless the 'Winkle..

3176) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Quiet Time (Message 578061)
Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Maybe part of the world is asleep or another is at work

or the SETI boards are just almost in slumber before being woken up yet again.



What do you think about in your quiet time?



3177) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Official Last Kinky Person to Poot Wins! # 3 (closed) (Message 578019)
Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
[quote]Winner of the last thread was...

*drumroll*

cRunchy who realeased something so stinky that the angels wept!

It was me..

Oh i'd like to thank Demiurg for introducing me to the art of pooting as I only knew how to poop before this.

I would also like to thank Captain for making me want to be as bigger pooter as he is.

I want to give a special thanks to Sarge who pooted himself into cyberspace for a week because he was very naughty.. and I want to be naughty like cream. Like him.

I also want to thank my mother for 'plopping me out' because I am sure I felt a poot at the same time.

Wow... Me... and my angel.


Me..

Lets keep pooting and make a big stink.


(I am actually very touched.. Me.. Oh dear.. poo.. me.. a gift.. oh.. )
3178) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person to Poot WINS # II (closed) (Message 577981)
Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
After a late lunch chili bowl I poot the ball up into the roof and straight down into the table where it sticks with a wet THUD!


If you think I'm going to get your ball you are mad..

Let Captain winner of last thread go up on the roof... He likes being up high.. Loves a wide room.. Gives him space to poot...




Ooo. Was that a woodpecker coughing I can hear?? Oh No.. it was me... ppppPpppppooting..

Little sneaky poots.. Oops. Sorry..
3179) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person to Poot WINS # II (closed) (Message 577890)
Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


Hey, wasn't the ball white when we started???

Pootin' da ball to Kingdom smells in the general direction of cRUnchy and the umpire!


That is just disgusting.

I think the flames are starting to rise here now as the ball gets hotter and hotter with friction.

poot-pong!! and the ball bounces off the wall and sweeps towards the centre of the table...



(I have my rubber gloves ready in case it gets stuck..)


3180) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person to Poot WINS # II (closed) (Message 577849)
Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Pootin' the ball back to cRunchy in a mighty roar of gaseous excrusions!



cRunchy picks himself up after a roaring wind threw him to the floor.. He picks up his gas mask and re-poots the ball back with no care for where it went.

What a relief..


3181) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person to Poot WINS # II (closed) (Message 577840)
Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Anyone tried poot-pong yet? (Table tennis version after fava-beans)

It is simple, you just place an average ping-pong ball between your tender crackiness and fire it off with an extrusion of poot in the general direction of your oponent across the ping-pong table hoping that it will be a valid serve. Then your oponent will try to poot it right back at you.

The Pootin' Thread, soon offically supported!


LOL

Sorry I hooted until I pooted..

LOP (= Lots Of Poots..)

LOP... My fingers keep falling off.. Oh crumbs.. Giggle..Giggle Poot...

Oh. erm.. You're a sporty pooter...

Do we have to keep the balls afterwards.. eew...


(Ooh and we will get official supports soon?)

3182) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Doctor is OUT! (Message 577825)
Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Since hospitals tend be places the sickest people end up, it is probably not a surprise that you have a greater chance of dying in hospital than elsewhere.

As far as the statistics regarding the death rate falling during doctors' strikes, I would be interested in the statistics for the next few weeks. Many medical interventions occur in response to life-threatening conditions in patients and these interventions often have risks associated with them. So, in the short term, by not treating you cause a temporary reduction in the death rate, but taken overall, the death rate doesn't change.

After all, we will all die eventuallly.


For a long time I have felt that we now live longer because we have:


    Clean Water
    Good Sanitation
    Abundant Varied Foods
    Warmth, Housing, Clothes
    Some Security.



And these:

On a social level we have various innoculations against the great killers like TB and we have antibiotics..

One of the greatest killer outside of these is malaria.. We kind of are able to stop the worst problems.. sometimes.

I doubt the majority of society live very much longer because of any other medical intervention though many individuals do.

Surgery sometimes extends life. Minor surgery is probably far more successful statistically at saving lives than major.



If you look at "The Lady of The Lamp" (Florence Nightingale) who is remembered almost as a Saint in the UK probably (through ignorance) killed more people than she saved.

Hospitals as you suggest breed disease but sometimes they breed ignorance simply by having to follow rules or by living by the book.



3183) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person to Poot WINS # II (closed) (Message 577810)
Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:



My God' this looks like one of the Captain of Poot's girfriend's offsprings..

I am still very disturbed after he showed us his loved one's picture..


I'd like to show you it's mother's photo but I am still trying to recover..


I'm not sure how the master of poot could procreate so..


A stalion no doubt...


3184) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You couldn't make it up....... (Message 577805)
Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


I'm not even sure why a straight guy would want to go into a gay bar.



I'll be damned if I have to walk 3 mile down the road if I just want a drink from a 'real man' pub.

Gay bar or not I am sure they serve something wet.


3185) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Doctor is OUT! (Message 577606)
Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...SNIP...
My Uncle in England went into the Hospital for a broken Leg...He died there within 3 weeks.


I am from the UK and I am so sorry for your loss :(

I understand you might not want to talk about it but do you think it was because of the treatment itself?

After a simple accident I lost a nerve in my foot when a doctor refused to listen to me (screaming) and decided to try and clamp an artery inside a wound that only required a few simple stiches. He crushed the nerve.

I have seen these statistics before about bad medical intervention and they are similar for both the US and the UK. I am not sure that statistics always prove what we think they do but I do now avoid hospitals unless I have no choice.

The sad thing is is that we should by rights be able to trust them :(



You are welcome to PM me hiamps.
3186) Message boards : Cafe SETI : iPhone... Would you like one? (Message 577447)
Posted 28 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... SNIP ...
Could this and the iPod make Mac OS X more popular?

Do you want an iPhone?


Personally no. It's a closed platform and the apps that can be added will (primarily) come from Apple. (That is until it get's unlocked and moders get their hands on it..)

I have a Treo that does near everything and a few more things the iPhone does except with a smaller screen.

If I want widescreen I just take my old Sony NX73 with me.

I have recently thought about upgrading to a large screen smartphone (PDAphone) so I could simply carry one item rather than two. Partly due to price at the moment I don't feel any will give me much better than I get from my two old devices.

When they become cheaper and faster and their new OSs don't grow in size just to gobble up any benefits from increased memory or CPU power then I might take a second look.

The iPhone looks more like an fasionable entertainment device than a bussiness like phone.

In that sense I think if it is able to penetrate the consumer market it looks like it might be aiming at (hip, trendy, fasion conscious, younger, popular, music lover?) it may help make Mac OS X more popular... but as a fasion or life style apendage as opposed to a serious computer.

There are ton's of other smartphones on the market. I'm not sure except for aestetics and it's Applness' what this phone adds of any benefit over the best from the other types (Palm, Windows, Linux..)

I truely hate the mobile phone market because it tends to (at large) go for tweaky little upgrades (often just cosmetic and entertainment based) and sells them as the next big thing :o(

Sorry.. I probably wrote more than you asked for :o))





3187) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You couldn't make it up....... (Message 577402)
Posted 28 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

It is no different to what is faced in community and education. There are times when women, young, disabled or black people want to mix, share commonality and even discuss issues that are relevant to them in an environment they feel safe in without interference.

We have mostly accepted this notion now. Though it is still seen by some as a type of segragation even if voluntary (usually by those excluded.)

If this pub is primarily run by gay people for gay people I really don't care.

Plenty of other places to go for a drink... that is unless my local supermarket ban's crazy people :)

I suspect the only problem we will see over this is from those who 'already' dislike gay people.

The only pubs that will become 'hetro only' will probably be those that were already unofficially gay unfriendly but they would still have to prove gays were a nuisance or dehumanised others.

Personally I can't see why the landlord didn't just ban unauthorised group events such as hen or stag nights.

Ah well I suppose it is also good publicity for the only gay pub in town! (Sorry.. me the cynic.)




3188) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person to Poot WINS # II (closed) (Message 576853)
Posted 27 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Ladies don't poot, they fluff, but only in the privacy of their own powder room. I should bottle mine, though, it's better than the smell of real roses.



That gives "fluff in your belly button" or "fluff between your toes" a whole new meaning.. Yucky..

Roses are red
Violets are blue
Your poot stinks
Just like roses..


Doesn't sound right really somehow :)




3189) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person to Poot WINS # II (closed) (Message 576850)
Posted 27 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


How dare you laugh at a lady, why, I never.


Well, it's certainly a pleasure to have you spouting these words of wisdom on my break from mowing my weeds.


You sure you didn't mean harvesting your weed? ;-)

I'm told it gives you the munchies and little belly poots... Burp..



3190) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person to Poot WINS # II (closed) (Message 576835)
Posted 27 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Was I too naughty or over the top?


More like a little too naughty out the bottom :D


Ahh you said 'bottom'.. I'm telling Miss on you..

So let me get this right. Ladies never poot but then can say 'bottom'..

Well your in good company as our Queen Lizy did say "Anus Horribulous" once :o) <chuckle> :o)



3191) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person to Poot WINS # II (closed) (Message 576804)
Posted 27 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


SNIP

. Tabletop PootBall

The thinner the straw the longer the game lasts of course...


If you think somemore (and try not to hurt yourself :P) you'd realize, however funny it sounds, that's just gross.


Was that too naughty.

My other pooty invensions are even more disturbing :o))



3192) Message boards : Cafe SETI : CLOSED - Thread without meaning - CLOSED (Message 576762)
Posted 27 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:



Sadly, the star does not hang on my computer,
it sits dusty, on my desk. I looked at it just
now and was reminded of the above note that
came with the star. Sad, so sad that things
have evolved to what they are today. :(



Why not just dust it off and hang it in a nice place.

Some things change and others remain the same.

At least it's a testament to you that you remember those happier days even if others may have forgotten them in amongst the complexity of life.


3193) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person to Poot WINS # II (closed) (Message 576745)
Posted 27 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Hey I was just thinking (I know it's a miracle) and i invented a new game.

It's similar to that table top game where you put a goal either end of the table and then use two straws to blow a ball backwards and forwards.

In my game the two players need a mirror and a straw each. They face away from the table top so need a mirror to look over their shoulders...

They of course need to put the straw in their **ahem** back blowing holes... then strain their way to score.

It's called:

. Tabletop PootBall

The thinner the straw the longer the game lasts of course...


3194) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Punning Clan (Message 576734)
Posted 27 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Herbaceous?

I guess that would be cRunchy then... And I am the one who was drinking cherry-beer the entire yesterday? What did you guys find to drink, puff, or intake through osmosis?

Long live the insanity! *chuckling*


I hear someones talking about me.. ... oh no that was just the TV again... Darn TV keeps telling me to do evil things...

Now where are those nut crackers.....


3195) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sum flowers'z (Message 576668)
Posted 27 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Superb photo's..

Lovely colours.


3196) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I was just wondering... (Message 576302)
Posted 27 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

It would sure make introductions at a party difficult :)



3197) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person to Poot WINS # II (closed) (Message 576289)
Posted 27 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
There is nothing more satifying than letting a garlic poot out.. that is until you smell it... eew


Poot Online:


Enjoy Some Pooty Music:

Fart Soundboard
(Uses Flash) - Loud



Compare Your Pooty Styles:

A Pooty Party Machine.
(Uses Flash)

Are you a 'Bottom Burper' a 'Squat Thruster' or a 'Trumpeteer'??



Feeling musical today then have toot with the nuns of poot:

Farting Nun Organ.
(Uses flash)




3198) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person to Poot WINS # II (closed) (Message 575677)
Posted 26 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


Erm.. I can only just tolerate stinky 'Captain' with my space helmet on.


Heck I havnt told the story about on the road to Nashville yet, that was the worst...


This isn't something to do with pooting in your own suit is it..

That's very very disturbing Captain.. :((


3199) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person to Poot WINS # II (closed) (Message 575668)
Posted 26 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Just to let everybody know, my poots actually smell like roses and have pretty much all my life. I'm dainty you know.


As my 4 year old niece has proclaimed...I DON'T DO THAT!


She does because we can smell it... <I even put a peg on my nose>


You don't like that floral scent?


Erm.. I can only just tolerate stinky 'Captain' with my space helmet on.

A pooty stinky pants 4 year old girl... Well I guess it depended on whether she was my niece or not...

As to the floral smell of big girls: I think it's lovely until they poot..

(and when they poot I might as well be intoxicated... oh..)

3200) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person to Poot WINS # II (closed) (Message 575637)
Posted 26 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Just to let everybody know, my poots actually smell like roses and have pretty much all my life. I'm dainty you know.


As my 4 year old niece has proclaimed...I DON'T DO THAT!


She does because we can smell it... <I even put a peg on my nose>



3201) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person to Poot WINS # II (closed) (Message 575634)
Posted 26 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Just to let everybody know, my poots actually smell like roses and have pretty much all my life. I'm dainty you know.



Yea and we all know little poots are the worst... little ones that fill the room slowly.. starting with roses and then garlic and then... phew... I can't breath anymore..

Why not revolt and let rip and enjoy pooty equality to the full... :o))


3202) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person to Poot WINS # II (closed) (Message 575624)
Posted 26 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Compare Your Pooty Style:

A Pooty Party Machine.
(It's Flash again.. Soz..)

Are you a 'Bottom Burper' a 'Squat Thruster' or a 'Trumpeteer'?




The Long and Winded Road!



I'm a "Smoothy"...

I would never stand behind a man that want's to go for a double wind... erm I meant win :)

Ooo. I think I need an enviromental suit...




3203) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person to Poot WINS # II (closed) (Message 575599)
Posted 26 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Compare Your Pooty Style:

A Pooty Party Machine.
(It's Flash again.. Soz..)


Are you a 'Bottom Burper' a 'Squat Thruster' or a 'Trumpeteer'??

....Snip... naughty biy sSarge stuff ;o)...


Hahahahahah!


Yeah cheeky butts... So what type of pooter are you then?

Go on.. tell us Mr thunder pants winner of the last pooty thread big wig... Grr.. :o))

I like to do a Smoothy whenever I can :o)).. <Blush.. Ooops..>

I Like To Poot In Public Places... Oh No Did I Just Say That.. Tell me I'm naughty please... please... ;)
3204) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person to Poot WINS # II (closed) (Message 575585)
Posted 26 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Compare Your Pooty Style:

A Pooty Party Machine.
(It's Flash again.. Soz..)


Are you a 'Bottom Burper' a 'Squat Thruster' or a 'Trumpeteer'??


(or do you poot like that naughty boy Sarge? His poots last all week long.. Oh Pooey!)

3205) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person to Poot WINS # II (closed) (Message 575574)
Posted 26 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNIP...

That was quite funny, I just wish that you were one of my students; then things could get really hilarious, as I would play you like a violin with my ruler.


Not sure what you mean by student?

I trod on my violin as soon as I read this.. I hope you don't have one of those big rulers.. They tend to have big crowns :(

Think I'll hold my pooting parts for a while... eeek..



3206) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person to Poot WINS # II (closed) (Message 574911)
Posted 24 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Feeling musical today then have toot with the nun of poot on her amazing:

Farting Nun Organ

(Uses flash.)
(The preset tunes are quite funny.)


Hey and well done Captain Pooty for pooting your way to the top of the last thread. History will remember you for your fine pootings... Either that or for having the smelliest house on the block..

It was a blast.


3207) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone Took My MoJo - Help. (Message 574216)
Posted 23 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I see the first and most sought after poot thread is now back in full..

Well now there is another smelly thread I doubt we will need it..

Its here if you like to smell yesterdays poot: Last Person to Poot Wins [1]


My own rather less smelly thread 'Moderator or Member. Can We Be Both?' is now visible but still has not relieved itself. (You can't post.)

This makes me sad.

I was hoping I would get my mojo back but there is a little further to travel I guess.

I can't see what the problem was.. I stayed with that thread as long as I could and was even very rude to my own team (told them to go away) but never rude to a moderator.



I guess I can accept a half way house... As long as there is somewhere better to move on to..



Not my choice really.. because it is ours...

Eyes wide open...

... and look out for Sarge who has been grounded like the naughty child he must have been...


..

3208) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone Took My MoJo - Help. (Message 574187)
Posted 23 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
A little more looking and you'll find what you lost.






Ohhh.. Sorry.. I saw someone say something and then someone else just quoted him and then added a picture but never actually said anything.. Mm..

I love such perfect interaction.. You need to be very close to have that kind of symetry..

Looking at that image Fuzzy I can only think that you might have lost your false teeth, crutch or ball of string at some time!...

I lost my mouse once after my snake got free and ate it :(

The photo actually wasn't that helpful to me as I live in a conurbation that has a unified train, bus, tram, monorail service that feeds 12 million people..

For example if Fuzzy lost her false teeth amongst 2.3 million travellers per day then Fuzzy sadly just has to smack her gums until she buys a new pair.. I wish it wasn't so but hey it wasn't my photo.. and Fuzzy may have a great set of real teeth for all I know...

Nothing we can do.

I really hope you get your false teeth back if you did indeed loose them Fuzzy.


Fuzzy I give you this one gift because I think this is so so pretty and I love the tons of little bells..

For Fuzzy...

I hope you will care a little more for me in the future..

I hope I care a little more for others in my future.

I know I care about you and would never want to do anything that would hurt you.

It is a good way to go I think.

Me..






3209) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone Took My MoJo - Help. (Message 574160)
Posted 23 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
A little more looking and you'll find what you lost.


You mean my sense of being valued by Berkeley University and SETI??

Not sure where to look really?

Someone really did a job when they stole my mojo because I don't think my mojo can fit through such a small pin prick eye of a needle..

What can I say.. when my mojo has been taken away..




3210) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone Took My MoJo - Help. (Message 574151)
Posted 23 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Hehehe! :)


You may laugh but your Dr Evil almost sucked the lips off me..

I'll get you back!!!
3211) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone Took My MoJo - Help. (Message 573982)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Dr. Evil might have it.

Did you look under the couch? People always find lost stuff under their couches...


I tried to kiss Dr Evil and get her to tell me where my mojo was but she just kept trying to give me tongue...

I told her I was a vegetarian but she never listened..

After I ran away I looked under the couch but only found hairballs and some old spiders legs..

I thought I saw a glimps of my mojo but after moving the couch I only found a sleeping mojotaker...

I put the couch back (on top of the mojotaker because that is how they like to sleep) and had a look on top..

Sadly the top of my couch is full of eBay junk..

Maybe someone sold my mojo on eBum?


3212) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone Took My MoJo - Help. (Message 573963)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Demiurg and Captain Pooty..

Very Very strange people :)


I feel left out...sniff...


Don't start sniffing as you are a very very strange dog..

Indeed.


3213) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person to Poot WINS # II (closed) (Message 573959)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I just popped my head around the thread to see who's been pooting lately...

My search for my mojo I fear may never end but I smelt something rather strong brewing in this corner..

What a blooming pong...

Was that that naughty exiled pooter 'Sarge'? <He poots so loud you know.>

I really need to poot...

I promise I'll be an ancient kid and I will never let my really bad VooDoo get in the way of being a triumphant pooter..

Can I?

3214) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Punning Clan (Message 573935)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Can I join in?

If I do I hope you know I bring my VooDoo with me and you all might get the cooties or get your booty mooted...

Promise I'll be really god.... no no I meant godfrey.. oh... I wanted to be god but I'll just settle for me.. and being good... honest :o)


3215) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone Took My MoJo - Help. (Message 573873)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Demiurg and Captain Pooty..

Very Very strange people :)

3216) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone Took My MoJo - Help. (Message 573867)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... Snip & Tuk..
And the seetee mojocator is pooting in swedish...


I told them not to let it play with LEGO blocks..

So young yet so modulationist.. and the word "block" seems to be always printed in their mojostealing brains..

Pure evil... and it giggles even when I say "where's my thread" .. yet my microphone is not even connected??


Maybe I'll make some donuts now and after eating them I won't even care who took my Mojo...

Hold On! Why the doobiness didn't I think of that in the first place??

I'll make my own mojo and keep doing it forever.. Happiness to all mojohaters??



3217) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone Took My MoJo - Help. (Message 573854)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
We are not pooping on your search, we are pootin' to keap up with you.



Even I don't know where I am..

Well actually I guess I am on the Setee in the Cafe.. Comfortable? NO NO NO..

Maybe I need to go beyond the Cafe and beyond our little punieverse.. even on out to the great berk in the sky..

Maybe finding my mojo requires a much much bigger room!..

That's a thought for another day???

3218) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone Took My MoJo - Help. (Message 573847)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

After many hours searching in which many mojotakers could have given back my words I thought I had reached the core but all I found was an itsy bitsy little child :(

This baby could be the offspring of those that stole my mojo and might hold the truth deep inside itself. (If only my universal co-mojocator worked with tiny-tots..) :(

Is THIS really a Setee Mojocator talking about my mojo?

Is there a translator in the house?

Or am I just nuts... (Probably true anyway,, :))



I want my threads back.. I feel naked :(

3219) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone Took My MoJo - Help. (Message 573834)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... SNIPs...

...and you worry about your Mojo...what about our Mojo?



Oooo.. If someone stole your mojo you would be rightfully perturbed.

I can't do anything about 'our' Mojo even if I am one of the us's until I have found mine...

If it takes me every hour I have to walk so softly I will scout every corner of this berkidom to find it... and I won't be stopped...

I want my mojo back from those mojoderating mojomolesters.

Me.. me.. me..

Don't poop on my search!





3220) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone Took My MoJo - Help. (Message 573802)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Last time I saw you Mojonator thread I also thought it was pretty good. But I do not know how it was in the end so I cannot truly say anything.



After being away on Sunday I was in the same position:

I was standing with one hand on my head and one leg pointing north...

Where you in the same position?

And then someone stole my mojo and I fell over <floods of tears... Boo Hoo >


3221) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone Took My MoJo - Help. (Message 573799)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Did you really need more stimulants after bonging down the dried sea-weed moose?


I like stimulants... Not sure what else I can say!

Some stims' and a bit of sea-weed never hurt anyone.

A bit of moose though is not so good. They just seem to run away whenever I try to eat them :(

Maybe my mojo was stolen by a mooserator and not a mojorator... Maybe you are on to something here... (... I'm off to contact the santa service..)..

Back in a moose.. erm... I mean a moment...
3222) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone Took My MoJo - Help. (Message 573786)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


... SNIP ...

It was not my intention to name anyone or to to kill your thread.
I will of coures be happy to not try and join the fun in any of your threads.
I apologise again if i have inadvertantly offended anyone.


I know Monday..

I want you to join in. It's just that I have to be a little carefull about what I/we say because my other favourite threads got eaten :(.

I care not which mojotaker stole my mojo but that it was stolen by a mojonator.. and i'd like it back because it was a good mojonator thread.

3223) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone Took My MoJo - Help. (Message 573770)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

It is not my job to single any creature out.

Hey cRunchy!

Just for you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFN2N1MoeXY


Cool :)

They certainly got their mojo working..

I tried to steal it from them but they reported me and I got banned from pooTube..

I did managed to steal their stimulants though ;o)



3224) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone Took My MoJo - Help. (Message 573749)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
cRunchy!

Come with me to heaven, remember that HE is with us in thought and sees our actions. And via divine trumpets HE has tooted his wishes to lowly me to uphold his Pootiness in HIS begone days.
But since I am just a tiny figure without HIS mights I need thy help to uphold HIS word of the Poot.

Sincerely;
The GodFather of Poot



I have my cootie wool ready to stuff in my cheeks and a rose to throw on their grave but my GodFather I just can't leave this thread as the last two I left got gunned down and I never saw who the insane culprit was...

I'm going to stay awake for the next 31 days if needs be to find out who the hell keeps stealing my darm mojo,....

It's a mission.. and when done I'll come poot like all the other heavenly pooters...
3225) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone Took My MoJo - Help. (Message 573738)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

(MojoEaters Stole My Threads. Why?)

Cause thou hast offended the Mojo eaters.Therefore thou must be banished to oblivion...That is the law of Fuzziness!!!!Thou must submit quietly or be forever banished..


OK Monday.

Please do not name any moderators.

If you want to kill my thread just send me a PM or send a message to a moderator.

Don't destroy my thread.

If I have a problem with moderation it is with all moderators not one.

It is not my job to single any creature out.

It is their job.

Monday please respect this.


3226) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone Took My MoJo - Help. (Message 573733)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


SNIp.... Everything I touch turns to doodoo.. ....sNIP


cRunchy, I feel your pain, dude. I understand your delema and believe I have an explanation. But, due to unwritten rules, I must keep it hush hush. :(


Oh Yes A Very Very Big Unwritten Thanks Mr 'I have some pants but won't tell you where they are'.. :o)

I really feel the faith.... (or was that a poot?) :o)


I'll make sure you'll feel my pain in the shape of the Kir' Shara... :o)~

Oh I love Vulcans... :o))))

3227) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone Took My MoJo - Help. (Message 573721)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
cRunchy...If you play with trolls you'll be eaten like trolls!


But I like trolls and they smell like you..

Oooh I meant they smell like glue :)

and I never played with a troll in my life... so there....


3228) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone Took My MoJo - Help. (Message 573718)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
No, cRunchy, it's not you. You don't have a disease. Don't be afraid.
It's just the bad luck, to be at the right place at the wrong time, which can happen to all of us.
It's like in the real life: Even when we wish it, sun will not shine every day. But after the clouds and rain there will always be a new sunshine.
So be patient, and wait - or enjoy to play even in the rain :D



Oooo.. So cheeky... you tell me not to be afraid yet never say how..

Probably a wise move :)
3229) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone Took My MoJo - Help. (Message 573714)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Stoop Pooting!
Coome oover too yoour pooting-friends for a Winferferooing!


Me? Friends? Winferferooing! Together! It would be like heaven and I would SMile forever :o))))

Oh... but I can't.

I'm sulking because I lost my bit of thread and they stole my mojo and I don't think i'll ever get it back...

.. and.. it's our pootin cafe' and we do the crunching at our own expense and then someone stole my mojo.. and stole my bits of thread :(

Nope.. You go enjoy your poot #2 and I will stay here... foreverrrrr



(MojoEaters Stole My Threads. Why?)
3230) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone Took My MoJo - Help. (Message 573689)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Yes:-)

And it is once again time to Poot!


I only poot with the best and that's why I'm too scared to join in with you guys as I don't want to have those mojotakers mojorate your pooting #2 thread..

Some one stole my mojo and my bits of string.. erm.. threads I think and I'd like them back.. (Did Dr Berk steal them?? <Scratches Head>)







(Think I'd Rather Be An Outsider If All The Insiders Keep Being Thrown Out.. Less Pain.)
3231) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone Took My MoJo - Help. (Message 573668)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Help :(

Please give me back my MoJo...

I would love to join in and post but every time I do my favourite threads get killed.. I mean they get totally obliterated and washed down the toilet..

I hardly ever start threads and the few that I did were heart felt.

My "Mojerator or Member - Can We Be Both" thread was strangled to death... mojorated as it went down the sink...

And I see the shamefully stupid but mad "Last Person to Poot" was wiped off the behind of this earth...

I am starting to thinks I might have a disease?

Do I? Is it me?

Or is it because I am back?

I seem to have some voodooo...

Everything I touch turns to doodoo..

Has it really been like this for the past year or so?

Where did my mojo go?

All I want to do is join in... but I'm scared in case yet another thread gets whacked just because I participated..

Am I being paranoid?




3232) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What does it mean to you? (Message 573604)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
@ cRunchy

I am a Christian but... I don't have a solid position about the existance or non-existance of God. Sometimes there are things that I see, hear and read that make me more slanted towards believer though. Like I hear people talking about experiences with ghosts. I wonder if there could really be such things. When I hear a ghost story that's sounds believable, sometimes it makes me wonder about all the supernatural stuff in the Bible. But usually most of the time I avoid thinking about the possibility. Maybe because I'm afraid to know the truth.

I find things in the Bible that are hard for me to believe. But I also find it hard to believe that it's all made up. Some things in the Bible are not very easy to just dismiss. I'm not even sure who the Devil is. Some say the fallen angel dude, but maybe another mysterious whatever. Or what exactly evil is. Sex and drugs, or something else?

This is the best I could come up with this late :)


I think I am a human (I hope..)

I guess I live in innocence but all I have to do is look out the window or at the people around me and I see something so awesome that it is far more than anyone could ever explain to me.

I know it's not good enough for some people ...

... but it's mostly good enough for me.

The only angels I ever saw were those people who loved me so completely and the only devil I ever saw was me when I was too stupid to accept their love.

Why not!

3233) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 573520)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Some Fascinating Facts & Fantasies About.. the thing you all seem to do so well...

A Little Poopetry:

Love is the fart
Of every heart;
It pains a man when ‘tis kept close
And others doth offend when ‘tis let loose.’


Phew.. love poots.. not nice indeed... smelly...




3234) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What does it mean to you? (Message 573517)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...SNIP...

My understanding of "faith" here is that it means the belief in a means (a substance) by which events can be made to happen. In Hebrews 1:1 "faith" is descibed as: "...the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." And that the evidence is the belief that God can make things happen in the future. To me it sounds like something is being concealed.



I've always had a problem with faith. I guess it is whatever the person makes of it but I always imagined faith not to need god to make something happen afterwards.. To me faith is an acceptance whether by some internal mechanism or by internal proof but not by some hope in the future.

"...the substance of things hoped for.."


for me doesn't have to mean a future tense - Most people hope for something to happen at this moment not in some distant future. (I don't think I ever heard someone pray for their loved one to be cured tommorow..)


When it says "Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God", it means through our acceptance of his powers, we understand that he made the "worlds" as he wished. And when it says "...things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.", it means that the ground, sky, water, etc, were produced by particles.


I only see the objects around me that make up my life. Some of those can be pulled apart and others can only be fitted together.

I know scientists tell me that small particles exist (and I mostly believe them).. I like the particles of the world that I can act upon... Everything else is a maybe...

I have never seen a disparity between god and my material world.. but then I don't follow a religion. If science does anything for me it simply makes me look and question. If god does anything for me it makes me see that there are so many questions to be asked and nothing is too great or small to value.

Yet I remain outside of belief... and it does my head in :)


It would be nice to hear why Jason asked his question.


3235) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 573454)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
They must have the cootie pooties or something.. 'specially the one in the back..

3 Pooty Teen Cooties

... and I thought after Captain Pooty's girlfiend I would never be more disturbed.. and then I found PoopTube... :o(((

(The above movie has lots of cooties but no actual pooty sounds - please make your own pooty sounds as you watch..)

Or if you prefer the sublime :)


(Respects to Nelly Fartodo.. oO :)
3236) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 573429)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
What's a poot? ;)


Jeffrey did a secret poot... Giggle :o))


3237) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 573422)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
An actual Vancouver advertisement:



Seems we have our work cut out for us guys and pooters...

Vancouver The Windy City :o)~


"14 Poots a day!"


That's Disgusting!


Vancouvans Must Be Very Stinky...
(Ooops did I say that in big... Oh Well They Are Stinky Bums Anyway... :o)))








(Only Pooterators Sniff - We Just Hold Our Noses.)
3238) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What does it mean to you? (Message 573391)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
You guys are waaaay over thinking this,

"By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". - Hebrews 11.3

Clearly an early Dark Matter theory...;)

from the athiest girl with a C- in high school physics :)


Hey you're a Kali Hindu :o)))


3239) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What does it mean to you? (Message 573389)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
That gives quite a different understanding.

Hebrews 11:3

SNIPED LOTS....

They all read the same to me... Other than, 'word choice'... ;)


Sorry for the big snip.

I didn't see the word 'choice' in any of those translations or interpretations you gave.

Not sure why Jason asked his question but for me it caught my eye.

I know I have choice even if every creature in this universe or god told me different... It may not be perfect choice but what the hey! Maybe it's god gift to me.. or maybe it's nature or just maybe it's my gift to myself...


3240) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 573361)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Only 871 flatulating poosts to go...


'Good things come to those who poot'



LOL@belly poot.


Oooh someone just did a cheeky little promiscuous poot!

(Ohh my goodness... Clear the house quick...)





<Where Are All The Pooterators!!>
3241) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What does it mean to you? (Message 573310)
Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
............

Here is the King James version:

"Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear."



That gives quite a different understanding.

If I was a hardline atheist (I'm not) I might suggest that through faith we would see that the "worlds" were made of (framed = made, put in place, structured within?) things that are not seen...

Given that was written so long ago and today we have a few more technolgies to explain things does that mean made from atoms, molecules, black holes, moments of entropy, stringy things., ect., ??

The 'worlds' (whatever that means) are made of invisible bits...


<Oooh - Spooky.. I just had a moth fly from behind my monitor.. I hope my world is not made up of hidden moths - or was that a revelation?>




(MoodyRaptor Or Punk - Gag That Punk?)
3242) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Punning Clan (Message 573240)
Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Who pruned my flan?

I went out in to my lovely garden and some geeza seems to have been choping off my cheesey bits..

I'm flanless and threadbare...

Ooh did I smell cabbage..






(Goderator Or Insect - Are We Bugs - Gods' hAte My Words - I Must Be A Poot.)
3243) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What does it mean to you? (Message 573217)
Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I have had this verse in my signature for a while now...and I was wondering what it means to you.

"By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". - Hebrews 11.3...................


"By Faith" = to believe in something with no seen or verifiable truth outside of ones own belief, body or mind..

"what is seen" = I assume this means I or you or anyone can see it - Has personal or social proof = knowable

"not made out of what was visible" = I can only assume means was made from those things we either have no personal proof of or was beyond our sight. Either beyond us, unknowable or hidden in some way.



Sounds a perfect logic to me.

* By Faith - Our Knowable Universe - Created From Unknown Things..


In other words we see the world but do not know from what it was created. In other words we need faith to know what was being refered to.

Sounds about the truth of our current science.. and to be honest how the hell could any of us ever know or see all parts of the universe in one moment.

It's a typical spiritual question. We as finite beings could never see or know the vastness of the whole universe. We can only have faith.


To me it's one of those statements that can only ever be fully understood if you 'believe' or have 'faith'.. and then at that moment would probably mean something very very different...



(I prefer to ask if: Goderator Or Bug - Can We Be Both - Who Ate My Thread?)
3244) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain of the Day [1] (Message 573017)
Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Cool.

One of my heros is Srinivasa Aiyangar Ramanujan. (Ramanujan for short)..

A superb mathamatician in 'infinite number series' and 'number theory'.

Born to a poor mother in some small villiage in India his theories are still now being discovered to hold great value.

Born a child under the British Raj he caught the eye of a tutor in one of our 'red brick' universities of the time.. Ended up dying of TB I believe yet left us a profound step forward.

All this from someone who could hardly write.

When he was asked where he got his ideas from he attributed them to his village godess... Me I just attribute him to being one of those crazy universal moments that gives birth to unique powers.. not sure which sounds the better.

Ramanujan. God or Mister.. Who can tell?




(Creator Or Creature - Can We Be Both - Or Will We Be Silenced?)
3245) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 572885)
Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
After spending the weekend with Captain Pooty's girlfriend



I am not sure whether to poot or run for the hills.

My mom has now added up the bill for every room in the house and the neighbours have banned me from their carpets, gardens and outhouses.

I'm sending your pootilicious ghoulfriend back Captain Pooty... I don't think I can take being very very very very disturbed anymore..


Oops :o/ I just did a precocious little poot...
burp... oops again... a belly poot :( Oh no.

3246) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 571793)
Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Pooting in Earnest.....:


I am still very very disturbed after meeting captain Pooty's girlfiend just as Earnest must be after you pooted in him...

Poor Earnest... and you had cabage and beans too..

I think I will never be the same after this thread.. ever..


3247) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 571721)
Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I don't think I will sleep well tonight at all after seeing Captain Pootys girlfriend..

A big fruity pooty just eminated from down below :(

I am very very very very very psychologically disrturbed indeed Captain.

My mom will send you the bill to clean the carpets.....

3248) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Moderator or Member. Can We Be Both? (Message 571553)
Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
cr.. & Demiurg.,

It is so nice to be amongst those who want you to be amongst them...

I'll see you both elsewhere on the forum as this thread was serious for me and I don't have anything more to add except to say I need our SETI mods'.

3249) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Moderator or Member. Can We Be Both? (Message 571494)
Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...
Just one small thing about us regular members. Are we not erreing if we do not tell a friend to cool it when he has a bad day and starts ranting against someone?

Another penny falling from the bald tree
Carl


OK... It was actually my last post so you caught me at the exact moment.

Cheers.



3250) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Moderator or Member. Can We Be Both? (Message 571475)
Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


I have no way to mod this thread but I can present my questions again:


Can a moderator both hold power yet chat as if they had neither power, persuasion or responsibility?

Could a simple member chat and hold the power to stop or alter a thread?

Can a moderator moderate if they are involved in a thread, argument or position?

Can we as members step outside ourselves and assume the role of moderator whenever we wanted?

Can a moderator actually be an average member or will they always be partisan?


Perhaps not written in my best english but I meant these questions to point out a deep disapointment I felt.

Non of us should be partisan..

I love being amongst my team mates (TFFE) but they are also just my favoured starting point to explore being a member of the wider community.

I want to be a member in the Cafe forum but I DO NOT WANT to be subjected to either errant moderators who think they are members - nor members who think they are moderators..

We all have badges to wear.. lets wear them without needing to tarnish other people's..

It is not safe when our forums don't have the will to make a structure work..

It is not safe when those who are charged to give this community a place to be start trying to be in our place..

I hope you mod's accept my questions and as a member I know I will never break a rule I could not see a big hole in.

If no one minds I will ask for this thread to die away - as people see fit..

3251) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Moderator or Member. Can We Be Both? (Message 571285)
Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Can I ask all my fellow team members (TFFE) to vacate this thread.. I do so value your kinship but I chose my path regardless of the team..



Let me stand or fall... and if I fall I hope you will be back home at the TFFE base to do what you always do.. be family... of course..

Now Scoot..
3252) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Moderator or Member. Can We Be Both? (Message 571276)
Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Questions:
SNIP... RE: Moderator or Member. Can We Be Both?... SNIP


You missed a lot of the discussions about this a half year ago, right? A good idea is to look up the threads from back then.

EDIT: And a good idea also when you arrive to a forum is to read the sticky threads. Instructions about moderation on this board can be read there. Thank you.



No Fuzzy. I just wanted to be on this board now. Forgive me for being me but it is not comfortable when all I see is the same stuff that was happening so long ago..

I don't like it when moderators join in as if they were no different to me.

A moderator should "moderate" not try and pretend they have no power or try and teach.

I absolutely find it very bad faith' that any moderator gets involved in a thread as a member-ish and then pulls rank (takes control).. It is very sad indeed.

I don't think looking back 3 months or 30 years will really help as obviously any community moves on and any changing society likes to feel the push of it's boundaries here and now..

I would have thought those that moderate would understand this..

And I won't read notes about the moderation on these boards because that is you moderators job and after a third of a darn century (I know I look so young) using networked computing and quarter of a century working in the arse end of my city I neither need to know what moderation means nor do I need someone else to tell me when something is wrong..

I made this thread and I think "Moderator or Member. Can We Be Both?" is still a valid question for both mod's and the forum folk..

You asked me to look back half a year.. I'll ask you to look back half a night: Can we be both Moderator & Member?

That is the most current question in this thread just but 1 day old..

Fuzzy and ALL other mod's . I want you to moderate.. I just don't want you to forget you are a moderator...

3253) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Moderator or Member. Can We Be Both? (Message 571253)
Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Maybe it is because we are involved.
Its only my point of view.

We only should be tollerant.

We are members also and following the rules.

Some can do so others not.

That simple.

You are saying your point and for i do mine.


Maybe you are being modest but I suspect you actually do far more than that as a moderator.

I suspect the job means you moderate... which means you either guide away from the extreems or sometimes curtail peoples activity when they go over the edge..

Where the edge exists or what it is is up to Berkeley and the SETI project in the end but in the very first instance it is up to the community and the mod's who walk the front line!.. In reality only the mod's can take a position of power or control over the boards facilities and what members are allowed to do or not...

We are members also and following the rules.


You either mean as a non-mod you follow the rules or as a mod you have rules also..

Maybe it would be good if we had the chance to see the moderator's set of rules!! (Maybe other's would be encouraged to be mod's??)





Cheers Mike for puting up with my crude questions..


3254) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Moderator or Member. Can We Be Both? (Message 571204)
Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The best Moderators are the ones who post.


Absolutely but the quality of the mod' depends upon what they post...

I hope!


Same as for all others.


Mike as a mod how the hell do you seperate yourself from the general throng (folk) when we are chating about things you do not like?

In other words how do you do your chosen job without getting too involved?

(Yes I am being very pointed :()


And for my last question - What benefits do the SETI (Cafe) moderators get? <If any? Training? Support? Phone bills paid?...>???

(Yes I am being very pointed - again - and no I am not embarrassed to talk about pennies :()


3255) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Moderator or Member. Can We Be Both? (Message 571190)
Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
The best Moderators are the ones who post.


Absolutely but the quality of the mod' depends upon what they post...

I hope!
3256) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Moderator or Member. Can We Be Both? (Message 571166)
Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
SNip...
Moderator or Member. Can We Be Both?
Snip...


Do you have a suggestion? Project developers as the only moderators didn't work. They have more important things to do and not enough time to babysit.

Berkeley certainly can't afford to put someone on a salary just to moderate a forum.

For a person to moderate effectively, they have to be a regular member. Someone that knows everyone and knows what's going on around here.


I asked a question. Simple.

No one ever had to babysit because you and I were not babies when we joined SETI!

Berkeley uses volunteers.. like 70% of all other social institutions around the world.

It has always been far easier to raise funds to train and support volunteering than most people think...

Berkeley I am sure on the support level can offer both accredited training, a media for volunteers to communicate as well as a clear chain of support without too much extra cost...

"Volunteer" does not mean low quality.. "Unpaid" does not mean lacking in skills..

The moderators here over the years have proven they can stand with and even surpass the best paid.

I simply asked some questions about what we expect from those who have a position of control, influence or power here on the SETI boards.

I just asked if we can be both 'Moderator and Member' at the same time.. Is it asking too much of them?? Is it fair?? What do they get for their efforts??

It is a valid question I think simply because if we approach the quest correctly both sides can win...

You tell me... Can a mod be both a member and a moderator at the same time without conflict or being partizan???
3257) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Moderator or Member. Can We Be Both? (Message 571098)
Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Questions:

Can a moderator both hold power yet chat as if they had neither power, persuasion or responsibility?

Could a simple member chat and hold the power to stop or alter a thread?

Can a moderator moderate if they are involved in a thread, argument or position?

Can we as members step outside ourselves and assume the role of moderator whenever we wanted?



Can a moderator actually be an average member or will they always be partisan?




3258) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 571019)
Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

The 1000th pooter wins. :)


Clarity has now hit my eyes - or was that the stench of the poot...

It takes me phew years to fight through the clouds of pooting steam but I see the light...

You all meant the 1000th pooting post.. (me stupid..)

Grrr.. SETI Cafe... An pooting blooming experience in itself.. :( Grrr




(I poot only when my dog poots and I blame it on the fleas.)
3259) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 570979)
Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Oh darn...

Did I do something wrong.. :((( Sorry

3260) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 570977)
Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
It would be nice to know when the last poot was acceptable in this last pooting race and what the prize that biggest pooter wins?
(Please understand I never poot in public..)

The 1000th pooter wins. :)



That's a lotta pooting..

How how the doobries do we tell when we are near the 1000 pooting mark because I'm near out of poot making giggles... (If only I had a phew more WUs (=Wind Units..)

Oh I know.. I'll just go:


Don't waste your pucker on some all day sucker
And don't try a toffee or cream
If you seek poofection in sugar confection
Well there's something poo on the scene
A mouth full of cheer
A sweet without pee
A musical morsel supreme!
Poot Sweets!
Poot Sweets!
The candies you whistle, the whistles you repeat.
Poot Sweets!
Poot Sweets!
The eatable, pootable treats!


(Sitty Chitty Pong Bang)

I may never beat the Master Miesters of Pong - Lord Demiurg (The GoodFarter of Poot) or Captain Pooty pants - but I can give them a run for their money...



(I only poot in good company.)
3261) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 570918)
Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


Last Person to Poot Wins [1]



It would be nice to know when the last poot was acceptable in this last pooting race and what the prize that biggest pooter wins?




(Please understand I never poot in pubic..)
3262) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 570912)
Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Deflection poot!


Was that a poot against a mirror?



(I only poot when I giggle.)
3263) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why aren't you using your real name? (Message 570898)
Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

but i am nobody . . .

. . . and, IF YOU don't believe ME - ask somebody


Oh WOW - only nobody could be so Cool and say that :o))))

Hehehehh: Nobody believes you :o)

(I won't ask you to prove you are nobody because nobody could prove that.... oh poo... brains gone mad already...)


So where is your body then?


3264) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Cunning Plan….*** CLOSED** (Message 570872)
Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


... I have heard her nickname is "Gently Bentley" but that yet has to be confirmed.

We can March in May, June or July, take your pick..or was it a shovel?


Gently Bentley... Ooo my gawd.. Even gently a Bentley wouldn't fit in my - arsk no questions I'll tell you know lies... eek..

So the plan is to thrust ahead I see....

I'm ready for the thrusting Sir... I like to pick though as a shovel doesn't fit up me nose..


3265) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Cunning Plan….*** CLOSED** (Message 570852)
Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

... When do we go over the top?


.... I though we were going round the bend first?


I already went round then bend in anticipation of the plan Sir.

On coming back round the other corner I remembered I always use to say that when in Rome poo as the Romans poo..

Stiff upper lip and which way to the frontier - or is this a strictly anywho plan. Sir?

Should we March forward in May I Sir?

Or is it back to the barrack to see nursey again?

Will she be more gentle this time?






3266) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Cunning Plan….*** CLOSED** (Message 570713)
Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Please Sir can I be relieved?

A suction cap or an enema might do the trick but I really need to go to the inflamatory right now Sir..

I see there is another big push ahead and I will be ready and will do my best for Bing and Crosby..

Will the nurses be gentle Sir?

When do we go over the top?






3267) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 570532)
Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

....I of course (after the recent new bum graft) only poot when I laugh


Isn't that all the time then?



I tried a gag and a buttle cork but couldn't retain myself and blasted off into space giggling as I went..

I don't think the coctail of anti-pooting medicine works when the GoodFarter of Poot is around :o))~


Hey what happens when you poot in a spacesuit?



Grrr.. My Compooter still has no WUs (= Wind Units) to crunch... Grrr..

Snigger...

3268) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why aren't you using your real name? (Message 570447)
Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Why aren't you using your real name?


I am using my real name.
And that's my picture.



Prove it!! Hehehe..

It's only real if some of us believe you :o)~


3269) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 570437)
Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I was wondering what an extra-terrestrial or spacial poot would be like?

(Can anyone hear you poot in space??)


Maybe that's why we have so many Gas Giants in this thread!


I of course (after the recent new bum graft) only poot when I laugh


3270) Message boards : Cafe SETI : only skype? (Message 569665)
Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
... is skype the only client for im ?


Is this just a general question about other messaging apps?

As far as I am aware only Skype will talk to skype but there are other systems out there.

I've always been a fan of Miranda-IM if you like small, cross service, tweakable applications... (It's not so hot on voice though.)

I suspect the most important factor is what the other person you're trying to contact uses..


3271) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why aren't you using your real name? (Message 569628)
Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

..... I thought I was the only one with my real name ..... It's just not right. I might demand to see their birth certificates and sue!


Why would you want to also see Sue?

'Sue' isn't your real name is it Ice? :o)~


3272) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 569610)
Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
*Scratching my head*

How exactly do you unscrew a stilton? I now they are dang hard to unwax but...


I was wonderting that..

Isn't Stilton just a rather pooty smelling cheese from.. erm Stilton in the UK...

I can't for the life of me see why John Clark's chum wanted to place Stilton on his doodars though... Some strange ritual I guess..




3273) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 569533)
Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


Heavenly! Hencesoforth I will be known as the GodFather of Poot!



They say you are what you poot oh "GoodFarter of Poot!" Hehehehehehhhhee..

You'll never live it down!



To Poot, or not to Poot,
That is the Poot.
To draw an inch of Poot,
against a sea of Poot.
That is truly the Poot.



I of course can no longer poot after I fell off my chair and ROTFLMAO and MA bounced down the stairs.. Then the dog eat it.. Thank you very much Demiurg - now look what you've done with all your pootiness ;-)
3274) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 569506)
Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Demiurg seems to have brought out own product line:



Buy New Poot Here


Doing so well Demiurg even opened up a London Restaurant..



Local residents say they love to wake up in the morning and smell Demiurg's pootifull homemade curries..

Think I'll be eating at home from now on :o)~




3275) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why aren't you using your real name? (Message 569370)
Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Oops... I pressed the wrong button - meant to edit not quote me self :(

3276) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why aren't you using your real name? (Message 569368)
Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I did a web search on my real name and found a strange Dutch clown was using it.. so I e.mailed him and asked 'what's all this then'..

He e.mailed me back saying that was not his real name - he just thought it was a funny name for a clown... cheeky geezza...

I e.mailed him back and asked 'what's your real name then'.

He said his real name was "cRunchy"... Now how spooky is that...



3277) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Night Train - Isto: A Bad Hobitt (Message 568146)
Posted 15 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
...Somewhere Over the Rainbow...


A misunderstood geeza and a far far better string player than me..

Isto.. A crooner and a smoothie..

I like the sadness of his bottle song :(

.. It's my birthday
... HeHe..
... I can poop if I want to...


3278) Message boards : Cafe SETI : :-) (Message 567681)
Posted 15 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Spell dog backward all the time. Oh Dog, I did it again.


If I did that my God would be barking at me to go outside and do a doodoo poopy thing..

It would also want to take over the world like it has taken over the foot of me bed... Grrr


Grrl also in tribble often enough.
My fingers never connected to keyboard.
Oops, poooo, poooo.
Grrl not believe in Dog, so speeel Dog as God.


I still hate those bluebells even if you can't spell.. They are trouble in May..

Was just a light thing.. a truth with a little jest..

Some damn good photos though..

3279) Message boards : Cafe SETI : :-) (Message 567641)
Posted 15 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Oh, Dog, I either love this guy, or I'm gonna smack him myself. :))


I don't know what dog you are talking to but I suggest you don't smack my ears...

I was just playing.

I was honest about living near where Tolkien played as a child... (B13. UK)

Pawly's last photo just reminded me of how much I miss the bluebells and the dip (bog / hollow)..

Sorry if I intruded.. but hey.. my eyes are not connected to my printer and don't have a USB port..

I only wanted to join in...

Damn bluebells.. get me in tribble every time.. Pooooooo.


3280) Message boards : Cafe SETI : :-) (Message 567618)
Posted 15 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Thanks Al! Still just a beginner though. The camera does everything, I just point. lol Have you been taking pics for a long time?


Did you say Al! or All :o)

Just in case you said thanks to 'all' on the thread I prepared my speech :o))))


Here I go:

I just point my eyes and blink...

Well there is no click but sometimes not even 'Ansel Adams' could make the world more fantastic..... Although he did a great job..

I wish I had an eye for lovely things..

(Ohh poo... I know no-one was talking to me.... Boo.. and they were talking about such pretty things.. I wish... squirt.. tears.. oh crap.. again...) Crumbs...





3281) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Night Train - Isto: A Bad Hobitt (Message 567528)
Posted 15 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
For the late nighters or the other side of the worlders...

He took too much drink but is more a child of god than me...

A crooner and an escapee.. Such a symphony...

A caramel creature.. and a good runner...

Wish I had one tenth of his ability.

ISTO... Start here and explore his wonderful world...

Check out his other U-Tubes..

So Sublime that it is a gift to us...

3282) Message boards : Cafe SETI : :-) (Message 567365)
Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Oh I have no nice pictures but I live in the city where J.R Tolkien played as a child.

I have taken many walks down into the old dip. In May it is alway a splendid place. The ground is full of bluebells and the normally green canopy of trees is transformed.

I often feel like I am walking on a sea of blue with the brightest shade of green refracting blue above my head. It's like floating in heaven.

Just across the road from this old playground is the water-mill that Tolkien featured in the Hobbit..

So nice that it is May and so nice that lovely things happen all around us without us having to do anything..

Yes.. It's a big smile.


3283) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sorry mates, I've had enough - Goodbye (Message 566716)
Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I don't think SETI have any idea as to what is happening at this end of the line

Cheerio all - I'm logging off all my computers from SETI

Keith


That's sad Keith. i've felt a bit frustrated during the recent outage as my one PC is idle. I see you have 4 machines and 4 tiimes my credit so I can understand how the cost and effort of running 4 machines cold can be a bother...

I see my BOINC now has several units hanging waiting for download so at least that is some progress.

If there are other problems at your end then no one can help until you tell us about them.

Will be sad if SETI looses your crunching power. Remember 90+% of the year SETI is quite stable but as said there will always be some outages due to the complexity of the task and the extreme work loads their servers must be under.

I'm looking forward to getting back to crunching data. It would be nice to see you continue besides us.




3284) Message boards : Number crunching : Cross-project statistics?? (Message 566648)
Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Those are just links to statistics with your BOINC accounts. You did not Join those groups but these are convenient links to places to check various graphs and charts related to the amount of data you have crunched for any of the BOINC projects. It is historic data and cannot be removed from your account page. Those links show up on everyones account pages.


Thanks folks.. I knew I Should have been reading more... Panic over :)
3285) Message boards : Number crunching : Cross-project statistics?? (Message 566316)
Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
OK so maybe I haven't read everything I should have but I try and leave all the work for my PC to do...

I was looking in my account and saw:

Cross-project statistics
* BOINCstats
* BOINC Statistics for the WORLD!
* The Knights Who Say 'Ni!'
* BOINC Combined Statistics

Now I can guess at the BOINC items but how on earth have "The Knights Who Say 'Ni!'" ended upon this list?

I don't think I put them there?... (Though I might have clicked some things when I first joined SETI yonks ago..)

No offence to them but I'm not a member of that illustrious group..

What does this mean and can that be removed or is it historic and unused data?

Wibble :ç

3286) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Local Swap Shop & Computer Recycling! (Message 565274)
Posted 11 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

More of my clutter on offer:

UK Only
-------

50ish various Computer Magazine software CDs (No magazines though).

Might be something interesting on there. Most are from 1999 to about 2002. Applications are mixed shareware & freeware.

Pickup the lot from B31 or can post out in smaller lots of 10 or so without the jewel cases. (Just the CDs and the printed inserts.)

It's pot luck which CDs you get. Free P&P. I want my cupboard space back.

Any takers?
3287) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Local Swap Shop & Computer Recycling! (Message 564458)
Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.... I haven't seen it happen yet and I hope people here who say they support such ideas actually DO something about it.


I know it can happen because I have been involved in giving and even sometimes receiving without payment..

I have faith that there are far more people who choose to give than there are that don't...


a bit of George Eliot:

"for the growing good of the world is partly dependent
on unhistoric acts, and that things are not so ill with
you and me as they might have been is half owing to the
number who lived faithfully a hidden life"


Let's see...

Anyone have any computer (or other) items they want to swap or give away??


3288) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Local Swap Shop & Computer Recycling! (Message 564423)
Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
....
I have a bird-thing with wings that go round and round in the wind, but it keeps falling off my gazebo and gets in the way of my mower. Could be adapted to utilize wind power to run the LEDs on a PC - electrical wiring/bulbs/solar panel/transformers not included. Free to collect from Surrey, England.


Maybe if you placed the 240V AC wires each side of your helmet and put the wings each side of your buttocks your mower would bond with your gazebo and you would be the first looney on Mars...

Who lets these crazy English people from Surrey called ICE in here??? :o)~

OK So ICE said: Anyone in the UK want to camp out in his yard until he gives out his bird-thing? He say's you can stay until item adapted and has the wind... Sounds like a nice Surrey holiday - beans and all??? Any takers? HeHe.. HoHo...


you Big Tin Head... :)~



3289) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Local Swap Shop & Computer Recycling! (Message 564421)
Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Might be better to keep the trade here...offsite things are not appealing to many people.




OK I kind of react easily. I don't own this idea..

Bob... Forgive me for reacting and thank you for making the idea happen.

It's not up to me but I was hoping we had a few more responses before even trying to make anything happen..

Folk will do as they will but I'd still like to keep a (region specific?) "Swap or Recycle" thread here in or around the SETI board..

I'd love to see things given for free or some items swapped not for profit. I would accept that sometimes postage costs are correct but I was hoping my suggestion never meant a place for us to sell our bits....

R/C is probably correct in that here in the forum we gain most trust and can enjoy the interaction...

Again it's not up to me... but I'll leave it up to others..




3290) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Local Swap Shop & Computer Recycling! (Message 564401)
Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I created a temperary place for swaping and what not with fellow seti@home users

HERE

~BoB


Not sure what I can say.....

I was hoping for a more community based agreement even if it took a thousand years.

What country is your forum meant for?..

I suspect I've exiled myself again... oh poo I hate me :-(((




3291) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Local Swap Shop & Computer Recycling! (Message 564029)
Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Oh damn I was hoping you were a bit closer. I'm in South London. Could you take it off line and get me on boincnewbie xxxxx


Have sent you an e.mail.. Let me know what you are interested in..

3292) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Local Swap Shop & Computer Recycling! (Message 563973)
Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I am aware of these folks (Birmingham-UK has quite a big group.).. In my city they're almost run by the same people as the 'hearts' for 'work' brigade... (No offence meant.)

T'was just a thought as I have loads of bits I'm about to chuck out.


Wot yer got?


Are you in or around Brum (B31. 1AD. UK)?

I can post smaller stuff but big stuff need picking up.

Leads, cables, router, 17" tft (older) screen - but no PSU, dual cpu PC (2x700?), modems, 14" CRT,... bits & pieces.. Some whacky bits..

Are you looking for something?

3293) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Local Swap Shop & Computer Recycling! (Message 563904)
Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Try http://www.freecycle.com


That link sends people to a bad advertising site..

Try this link uk.freecycle.org..

I am aware of these folks (Birmingham-UK has quite a big group.).. In my city they're almost run by the same people as the 'hearts' for 'work' brigade... (No offence meant.)

T'was just a thought as I have loads of bits I'm about to chuck out.

3294) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Local Swap Shop & Computer Recycling! (Message 563793)
Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Is there a thread or forum for people wanting to recycle computer equipment within the SETI or BOINC network?

For example I have quite a few 56KB modems that I could sell on eBay but I'd be even happier giving away to a cruncher.

I was wondering if people thought a country specific thread (EG: "SWAP & RECYCLE - UK, US, FRANCE.. etc..) might be of use?

Participants could list the item, give their contact details, location & post code and whether the item was a pick-up, postable, swap based or a free item..

I'm sure there would be some problems to iron out but would this be a good idea?



3295) Questions and Answers : Wish list : BOINC manager ideas (Message 563696)
Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
1) Set preferences with the manager, not on the websites.



Who is the manager of the BOINC project?

They'd never get off the phone if we all tried to set our preferences directly with them..

HeHe..


3296) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Science, money, humans (Message 561387)
Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.... I just said it was close to heaven, but I am not sure I fit into heaven.....


With a quote like that even the saints would love you....

If I don't go to sleep soon I might start typing some sense..

Nacht....
3297) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Science, money, humans (Message 561368)
Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I just took a closer look at your team cRunchy. It actually almost made me tempted to join a team.
One big heap of bearded crazy men and beautiful women who are all totaly insane. That is the closest I've been to seeing heaven so far!

*Switching to Jamaican* Cool Man!


Ohhhh... Ohh....... I just had to come back for this one.. I even stopped putting my slippers on...

Bearded men and beautiful women???

I am sure you meant to say beautiful men (like me in a manly but not man to man way of course) and our rather voluptuos bearded women (like our women in a non beard to beard sort of way of course)...

I never promote flamboyant team choosing or switching... but you have been around so you can choose what madness you could get into yourself.. (erm get yourself into...)

Sleep time in England???


I never mentioned GMT.. I like to Siesta and it's a public bonk holiday..
eyelids are heav..y.
3298) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Science, money, humans (Message 561352)
Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Sorry, I guess that my jokes are also baaaaad.


Yes :) but we like it.

It's sleep time for me...

Wondered what happened to the thread 'scallops, monkeys and hugh ones'..

Another day...
3299) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Science, money, humans (Message 561264)
Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
.....
Is it okay if we share the deodorant? It's an environmental friendly spray I have.


I never share deodorant because in the wilds of Birmingham (Central UK) any animal can track us and will try and eat me thinking it was you..

I'd rather they eat you than me..

That's 'Science, honey & humans' in a nut shell :) (Application, Value, Flesh.)

Hehehehehhe...
3300) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Science, money, humans (Message 561243)
Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
*Handing a cool beverage to cRunchy*
Now your post is back in buisiness!
Sorry!
.... SNIP SNIP My Diatribe stuff



Tar :)

In some ways I wish this thread was named differently.

For me 'money' has no real meaning outside of a sense of personal security come pleasure.

I am almost certain that all humans use money as primarily a way of securing their need, desires and alieviating their fears.

Science is (for us educated outside of an overtly religious society) a way to practically forward ourselves or a way of averting the worst of the problems we could face.

Humans as a category is quite plain and simple as long as we accept that we are the most 'creative' but not always the most intelligent of this worlds creatures.

The first post was about whether we as humans can change our ways when it comes to the way we allocate funds.

I suggest that if we change the language of the arguement (perhaps just for a second to the microcosm) we might ask whether you or I (anyone, a human) could happily shift our resources (money, power, or quest for personal security & happiness) from the self to the universal (science = universe, outside, world or social) discovery.

I suspect we do this all the time in so many ways but do not always acknowledge we do.

I have no problem paying taxes... I need roads, hospitals and sewer cleaners.

I hate paying taxes for guns & bombs.

I love paying taxes to employ soldiers who will stop mad people from killing me.

I accept my neighbour is old and needs care. She worked in a factory for 40+ years and made bolts that may even now support the chair I sit on.

Who Cares!!

SETI is a wonderful idea and more than that is a premier project when we think of distributed computing.

For me science can some times give us hope for a wonderful future (our best hopes and aspirations). Money is just a transactionary device we have accepted that can be swapped for something of value as long as we fight to make every cent, paisa or penny count and Humans... Well humans are neither individuals nor collective beings...

This forum shows us every day that we are both collective in love of friendship, family and community and inherently odd in our sense of self.


I wish this thread were called "Aspirations, Gains and Crazy Creatures"

Maybe it would make less sense but then I would probably make more sense.. Hehe..

(Sorry for my bad smelling..)

3301) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Science, money, humans (Message 560981)
Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
to be honest, I'm amazed that we've made it as far as we have! Humans are destructive, selfish, and primitive creatures. Give us another 50,000 years to evolve, and those spending figures might reverse - but I don't know if we'll be around long enough to reap the benefits!


Back in the beginning.,

Well humans in this form have been around for quarter of a million years and in any supposed aggressive form have been around since we were any tiny living creature several billion years ago..

one of the base propositions of this thread is that humans are inherently 'bad' (or let's say towards the negative.. being self destructive) yet we are still here.. still creating.. still growing.. still maturing.

It is certain that humans like all animals will continue to struggle against our better natures and against the environment but look at what we have achieved..

We are the fortunate children of a technological age that suddenly hit gold some 200+ years when we found power, steam then petrol. We take one finger and press a button that churns out cars, medicines, plastic buckets and things our ancestors could not even imagine... We do 1 percent of the work and the machines do the rest.

When I look at the world we live in I see so many miles to travel but a heritage that makes me proud because we have already travelled so far.

I don't see the fallen from grace or expelled from Eden creatures our belief systems tell us about but I see the hope and aspirations of my Grand-Mother, and my work and effort, and with some care and carefull planning, the future for our Grand-Children.

I certainly don't see either individualist or collectivist. I see the universe's most wonderful animals created by god or nature that have existed for longer than we can remember... existing because we can.


Oh sorry.. I got lost.. Science,. Money., Humans... I assume one is an endevour, the next is a collatoral device and the last was just a description... All of which were in reality created by us.. and made practically possible by the majority of those similar to us but who have probably never heard of SETI type projects but keep punching out the bread, cars, light, tables we all consume.

Just throwing a spanner in the cogs... (I've been away for so long I had to start at the beginning of the thread.).. Now where we?





3302) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your E.mails Captured For Posterity! (UK.) (Message 560280)
Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
This is voluntary by brit citizens, yes?

AFAIK yes


HeHe.. I was going to say 'no' just for the fun of it but I was beat from it.

We love our social invetigations here. Old diaries, love letters, post cards... I guess e.mails are too transitory to be gathered up later and hence this project.
3303) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your E.mails Captured For Posterity! (UK.) (Message 560273)
Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

cRunchy, Love the signature banner!


Thanky you :)

The colours make me feel calm... the team on the other hand are just nuts :)
3304) Message boards : Cafe SETI : No One Can Prove! (Message 560026)
Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
IMO Anyone who remembers the 70s wasn't there. ;-)


Nice thing to say to the folks who were kids at the time.

I turned 14 in Nov of 1970......Snifff


Who could forget flock wallpaper, purple brown and gold decor and yer dad smelling of Brut and wearing a bad curly perm... Makes me shudder...

Mind you Toyah Wilcox & Gary Numan seemed to make the end of the seventies a little more bearable.... that was when the electricity wasn't on strike or my little sister didn't want to listen to her copy of Wombling Christmas on the record player...

3305) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your E.mails Captured For Posterity! (UK.) (Message 559964)
Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

From the UK and fancy saving a few of your interesting e.mails for future generations to gawp at?

Throughout May 2007 the British Library is creating the first ever national archive of emails. The Email Britain book, recording a snapshot of British life by email, will be permanently archived for generations to come.

Email Britain

The Categories:

  • Blunders – embarrassing revelations, a case of mistaken identity etc
  • Life changers - job offers, marriage proposals etc
  • Complaints – public transport, poor customer service etc
  • Spam – the best (or worst) spam emails received
  • Love and romance – romantic emails which tugged at the heartstrings
  • Humorous emails –funny forwards, office banter, jokes etc
  • Everyday emails – exchanging recipes, organising nights out etc
  • News – good and bad news, births, illness, accidents etc
  • World around you – emails/views on topical events, news from around the world etc
  • Tales from abroad –long distance emails from far flung places





Interesting idea I guess. Will kind of be like those personal and revealing letters and tablets found in and around old Roman forts!!!


Email Britain

3306) Message boards : Number crunching : Ap400 - Anyone Running One? (Message 189569)
Posted 16 Nov 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I have an Ap400 dual 700MHz proc just waiting to start crunching.

In testing (without BOINC) doing some basic tasks as well as at idle and some heavy tasks for short periods I find the proc temperature possibly too high...

The temperature will go from 40 deg to 87 deg depending on the task but can achieve 80+ C with just simple tasks like loading an application. With a longer task it will remain high.

Oddly or not there is quite a difference in the 2 CPU temperatures with CPU 2 never going over 60 deg. (I still have some more testing to do with swapping the CPUs around.)

As these CPUs are rated at 85 deg C will running BOINC (which I suspect will achieve the higher 80+ C') cause any harm?

I would have expected them to cope as it is a work horse but wanted to checkout what others think first.

For heat monitoring I am using SpeedFan but how accurate it is I am unsure!

Has anyone modified their AP400 to add cooling?

Any suggestions \\ links?

Cheers

cRunchy
3307) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Final Front Ear Members - Win A T-Shirt Contest... (Message 186707)
Posted 7 Nov 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:





Now they say I'm a selfish monkey but I don't mind sharing my nuts with anyone... but I will only let the winner of our super caption contest walk away with my T-Shirt...


So come on you fine TFFE folks don't be shy... I know who you are... join up to the forum now and have a go.... or I'll be chasing you with my banana.. and you know what that means.. Right!


Login Or Register Here.



The Monkey

PSST: Don't tell that boring cRotchy we've been looking in
his draws whilst he's been away on holiday.. Yuck.. I found
some old shriveled salty nuts....


3308) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Final Front Ear Members - Win A T-Shirt Contest... (Message 185498)
Posted 3 Nov 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Ladies, Gents, Nuts and Fruit Cakes.


We would like to announce to members of 'The Final Front Ear' a grand "Photo Caption Competition"...


It Is Your Once In A Life Time Chance To Win A Fabulous "Final Front Ear" T-Shirt.

As Modelled Below By 'Keith The Cheeky Monkey' This Shirt Will Enhance Your Good Looks and Make You Desirable Beyond Belief.





Competition starts tomorrow evening (4th November 05 24:00pm GMT) and continues for 2 weeks.

If you are new to the team or are already a member but haven't signed up to the main TFFE forum then please do so now at: TFFE Team Forum...

If you need help signing up at the forum then contact any TFFE member..

.. or contact: cRunchy (fondly known to all as cRotchy ) here:

Instructions for competition entries will be posted on Friday evening (GMT) in the forum. You can join in the fun anytime over the next two weeks.

No special requirements to enter except being an active or new member of the team.



TFFE Team Forum...
See: General Discussion.


cRunchy

3309) Message boards : Cafe SETI : His Master's Voice (Literature) (Message 163349)
Posted 5 Sep 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

One question - who here has read Stanislaw Lem's beautiful SF novel " His Master's Voice"?


Hello :)

If you are looking for a copy then do a search on "Stanislaw Lem" on ebay. There is a copy coming up in 5 days here in the UK (they will post to Europe) and a couple in the US.

There are lots of items for "Stanislaw Lem" in Germany where you are but I can't read German so can not tell if 'His Master's Voice' is amongst them...

I didn't realise he wrote Solaris (as in the film)..

cRunchy


3310) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What is GUI RPC request? (Message 151978)
Posted 15 Aug 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
To be serious, I thought about trying to answer this last night but was too tired to trust myself, to do it properly, I've recharged now so here goes:-

SNIP...
Ken Phillips


Ken. That was absolutely brilliant for me and full of practical help.

I hadn't looked at controlling BOINC from somewhere else but as I VNC into my machine on the odd occasion it makes sense if I am away from home to be able to do this also if needed.

Your post made the whole process and configuration understandable. Thankyou..

cRunchy


3311) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What is GUI RPC request? (Message 151403)
Posted 14 Aug 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
It's a response to the scan but what does "GUI RPC" actually mean?


Ok guys. Thanks for looking. I found the info I needed at:

Boincview Weblog

GUI RPC request from non-allowed address '(ip-address)'

Controlling the core client via RPC


3312) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What is GUI RPC request? (Message 151393)
Posted 14 Aug 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
[quote]
B) Green Undersized Integers - Really Pretty Cows

Unless you're from Nebraska like me, (B) probably doesn't apply.


We have no pretty cows here... but we do have a few nubile sheep... ahem.. well that's another story.

3313) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What is GUI RPC request? (Message 151307)
Posted 14 Aug 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

After doing an internal scan of my PC's ports I got the following BOINC message:

> 2005-08-14 05:52:55 -
> GUI RPC request from non-allowed
> address 192.168.1.3

It's a response to the scan but what does "GUI RPC" actually mean?

3314) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where are you from? (Message 121385)
Posted 9 Jun 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I think Tigher said he was from Birmingham on another thread somewhere about...dont quote me on that though as i could be mistaken


Cool. I I wonder if it would be a nice feature to be able to review participants by city or area instead of just country?

I did see a website \ board somewhere that showed latest meet ups for city or region for SETI but can't remember where... I seem to remember it wasn't very up to date though.


cRunchy

3315) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where are you from? (Message 121194)
Posted 9 Jun 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

There must be some Brummies around...

I'm logging in from Birmingham. UK. The pina colada of Britain.





cRunchy


3316) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Berkeley Lecturer gets medieval on Laptop Thief... (Message 102531)
Posted 22 Apr 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Are all Berkeley staff this b*ll kicking?

Just don't get on their bad side :o))

Story
n Links...


There is a "real media" video as well. Fast Forward to 48m 50s to get the actual bit.

Here's an Audio MP3 snippet of speech...


cRunchy

3317) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Kid Stole Dead Guys Head! (Message 98086)
Posted 13 Apr 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> Ah man, did you here this? Apparently, some 17 year old kid from Morrisville
> Vermont went to a cemetary and cut off a dead man's head so he could use it as
> a bong!

OK someone has to say it: I bet he got out of his skull.. well out of the other guys skull anyway :)


cRunchy

3318) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Homeopathy - questions :) (Message 96955)
Posted 10 Apr 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

> > I think last time I spoke to my bio-chemist mate he suggested there is a
> > 14% across the board effect from placebos... What that actually means I
> >don't know...............


> I just wanted to quote these two statements together. I would be very
> interested if you could get some peer-reviewed references from your biochemist
> friend re the placebo effect size, as I have never seen a single estimate for
> this.

I'll see him soon so shall try and remember to have a chat about it.

> > Of course what we don't know is how many people homeopathy has killed
> > either as dramatic cures can also be dramatic failures....

> Do you mean killed as in "the homeopathy treatment poisoned them" or killed as
> in "the homeopathy treatment did not reduce/eliminate their medical
> condition"? Of course, you could mean both. :)

Both is possible. The second becomes more possible as people turn to alternative medicines for wider ranging illnesses.

The first is perfectly possible if we are to believe homeopathic theories on molecular targeting. If they claim such powerful results from such tiny interactions then those powerful results can swing both ways...

However I suspect they will only say that it does good... or doesn't harm if it doesn't work... but then then they would and they would also have the 'lack' of clinical results to prove it :o)))

There is even a homeopathic treatment for Syphilis.. and the patient doesn't even have to have ever had the disease because homeopathy claims to also be able to treat the 'latent familial genetic effects' of Syphilis left over from previous generations (general human miasmia - hereditry weakness).

Which would you choose though: Modern drugs that have mostly known side effects.. one of which is continued life :) or some dilutant with mathematically zero molecules of active ingredient with no researched or admitted side effects and of course the chance you could go blind become deformed or die if it doesn't work...

No wonder treatment of Syphilis by homeopaths it is banned by the US government...


cRunchy
being grumpy


3319) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Homeopathy - questions :) (Message 96402)
Posted 8 Apr 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> Not so fast there, crunchy
> I think you're confusing homeopathy with something else.....
> Not all homeopaths are quacks....

Now here we go :) You put words in my keyboard in your eagerness :o))

I referred to no molecules in homeopathic drugs and did not say they were quacks... although I have no faith in the practice that's true :)

Example: But the maths do boggle my mind: http://www.geocities.com/healthbase/homeopathy_atoms.html

We have Jarr's Homeopathic Handbook on the stacks in my city library so I have been pretty lucky to research my own homeopathic remedies when I was a tad younger from a very original and rare source.

I still don't have faith in it though.

> ----------------
> homeopathy ~ the method of treating disease by drugs, given in minute doses,
> that would produce in a healthy person symptoms similar to those of the
> disease. (opposed to allopathy)

The argument suggests there are NO Minute amounts in the dilution anyway.

> ----------------
> "The Similum or Law of Similars: This basic law of homeopathy is similia
> similibus currentur: 'let likes be cured with like'.

Yes and Pete's Law Of Ping Pong says every culture has its foibles :o))

> 'Alternatives' to big pharma is not necessarily quackery.

I think your associating your thoughts with what you thought I thought... If you see what I'm thinking... That's kind of The Law of Similars also.

> I can attest to
> treatments that are quite successful where synthetic drug regimes have failed
> to produce a satisfactory result. Naturally produced drugs can be quite
> effective and there are plenty of known and recognized USP natural drugs.

I agree nature sure does produce loads of great chemicals that have some use or other.

There are also plenty of anecdotal evidence for all sorts of alternative medicines. Anecdotal statistically uncertain when you look at the cure rate of say Bubonic Plague. Homeopath Zero.

But yes there are lots of illnesses that can't be treated by conventional manners either due to lack of chemicals, understanding or too higher variance in the population.

Sometimes these illnesses that would kill one person seem cured in another. The use of Homeopathy, prayer, placebo all have statistical positives somewhere though for prayer and placebo there are some excellent studies.

I actually welcome trials for homeopathy. It would be fascinating to prove my feelings (and that's all they can be as I'm not scientist) wrong.


> I haven't read the article in question, so can't comment on relevance of the
> 'placebo' question or how that will be handled in the clinical trials, but
> don't think homeopathy is just snake oil.

I think last time I spoke to my bio-chemist mate he suggested there is a 14% across the board effect from placebos... What that actually means I don't know but as placebos are used massively within standard medical research I should imagine whatever the figure is and whatever its effect it is a concrete measure by now.

Of course what we don't know is how many people homeopathy has killed either as dramatic cures can also be dramatic failures....

More trials... equal to the rigors (?) of standard medicine and then we can all decide on quackery.

cRunchy

3320) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Google Your House, Get Satellite View (Message 95907)
Posted 7 Apr 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> > http://maps.google.com/

> As far as privacy concerns, others have offered similar services for many
> years now without the "concern" over privacy that seems to have erupted in the
> media over Google's attempt at offering satellite images. Lately I've been
> noticing that Google seems to get bashed somewhat by the media more often each
> time it offers something new. It's like they've become the Microsoft of search
> engines and have a large contingent of vocal critics that look for something
> to complain about because they are a successful company.

I guess google do get hit because they are "big" at the moment but they are also far more (or trying to be) invasive than many other services.

Consider that they now can universally track your mail, your desktop and now the top of your head and you potentially have a government friendly, user self imposed, tracking service.

http://www.google-watch.org/bigbro.html

cRunchy
3321) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Homeopathy - questions :) (Message 95902)
Posted 7 Apr 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> I just read in the New Scientist (a March edition, I'm a bit behind in my
> science reading) that a person is proposing to do a randomised controlled
> trial of homeopathy.
>
> Normally, in this type of clinical trial, one would use a placebo.
>
> My question is:
> What on earth do you use as a placebo for a homeopathic tincture? The
> undiluted substance???

Maybe just the dilutant.. I might join the trials if it's brandy :)

Though I suspect they may just use the original homeopathic remedy as there are no molecules of the 'active' ingredient in them anyway. LOL.

cRunchy

3322) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You need to read this If you have heart disease.... (Message 94654)
Posted 4 Apr 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> Why don't more people embrace thalidomide?
> http://www.tv.cbc.ca/witness/thalidomide/extrahis.htm
>
> "...was hailed as a safe and effective sleeping pill. "

I could have been a Thalidomide child but thankfully was born just after the end of its general use and my mother never used it.

I suspect that people do not use Thalidomide because of its gross side effects.

However Thalidomide is being used now increasingly as the very same property that caused damage in unborn children is an effective drug against some cancers and leporasy.

Sadly we are also seeing new Thalidomide babies appearing in countries where there are poor medical support to regulate the drug. Africa again suffers medically :(

To add to the general arguement. A friend of mine is a medical rep. My house is full of incentive gifts usually given to doctors to induce them to prescribe certain drugs over others (I'm in UK).. I end up with tons of this stuff as many of the doctors just don't want yet another toaster, kettle, writing pad, etc....

In fact we often have bonfires to burn half of the notepads as he can't return them to work, can't give them away generally as they have a logo on, can't dump them as the quantity is industrial waste and the doctors don't want them.

It's a bizaar situation but that's capitalism I guess.

Interestingly my father told me a story about going to the family doctors in the 60s. The old doctor weighed my father, looked at a chart and said to my father he was far over weight.

My father looked at him and asked the doctor 'who produced the chart?'. The doc said something like the food and agricultural ministry... My father suggested to the doc that he needed to update his chart as that ministry no longer existed after the second world war and probably underplayed the lack of weight in the general population.

Another bizaar situation but in this case neccesity I guess.


cRunchy

3323) Message boards : Cafe SETI : from Jerusalem Post Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 (Message 94289)
Posted 3 Apr 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

> About 20 years ago I was arrested in New Brunswick for reading a book outside
> a donut shop. I was there a few hours, and the owner decided I must be
> planning a heist, or stalking a waitress or something. They called the cops on
> me. Meanwhile there were idiot kids in 4x4's driving over the grass, peeing on
> the side of the building, drinking beer in their trucks... than was normal. It
> was the guy with the book they were worried about.

See. told you it is the quiet ones. You were the abnormal one. Next time take a pee in middle of the donut shop whilst reading your book and they will give you an award for being a model citizen :)

Mind you you don't say what book you were reading... Perhaps they just didn't approve of your choice of literature...

Wasn't a book about how to rob donut shops was it :)

cRunchy
3324) Message boards : Cafe SETI : from Jerusalem Post Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 (Message 94282)
Posted 3 Apr 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

> I just get the idea that this Silwadi guy is not thinking in a religious sense
> at all. I think that he is rather thinking in a political sense. I mean, this
> statement by Silwadi for example seems more political to me:

> "It would be fair to say that the world would be better off with a US that
> is not a superpower and that does not take advantage of weak nations than a
> world where this country does not exist at all," he added."The world will
> certainly lose a lot if and when this disaster occurs because of the great
> services that American society has rendered to the economy, industry and
> science."


I totally agree but that mix or religion and politics often happens where there are people who are or feel they are oppressed.

I see no problem with mixing religion and politics. I suspect that Eurocentric thinking has actually separated these and given a distaste for this kind of mixture as we developed a more separated state over the centuries.

The difference in Islamic world might be seen in microcosm if you look at the position of the Mulah (religious teacher leader similar to priest). A Mulah often has to support themselves within their community and have a job as well as being a Mulah. They will often run bussinesses given their higher level of education. this brings local community involvement, commerce and politics together in their world.

This is not dissimilar to priests of old in the christian world and in that europe had a fair number of priest come politicians and revolutionary leaders.

I think there is some merit to the specific passages above just as there was to what Gandi said about England or Jesus said about Rome. But human society is not perfect and today the US is powerful and powerful countries (or people) often overpower other nations whether by choice or just pure weight.

i've seen too many predictions of doom so I guess I won't hold my breath waiting to be washed away in some biblical.. ooh sorry Quranic flood :)

Personally I think there is a different message we can read out of this guys words. I think it belies a sense of powerlessness after the events of Afghanistan and Iraq where the only hope for change people can grasp hold of is that of godly intervention... It smacks of a feeling that there is nothing people can do for themselves to raise their own hopes or achieve aspiration.

Regardless of whether this cleric is simply voicing a feeling of his people or whether he is capitalising on it it suggests a broken will and mindset which if true I think might be the greatest of tragedies.

I would fear the breakdown of a health society where people have lost faith in their own capacity for advance than any flood.


cRunchy

3325) Message boards : Cafe SETI : from Jerusalem Post Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 (Message 94269)
Posted 3 Apr 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> "Silwadi said his study of the Koran showed that the US would perish mainly
> because of its great sins against mankind, including the Native Americans and
> blacks."


> Hmm. But wouldn't the tsunami sent by Allah to destroy America also kill many
> blacks and Native Americans as well? More reason why I think this is just a
> bunch of gaga.


What's also quite interesting and an often totally ignored or unknown part of this worlds history is that over a million peripheral border european people were taken over hundreds of previous years to the slave markets in Africa and into the Arabic and Islamic world.

There are the odd recognition of this in the islamic world but not really a true picture. There are a few graves of white female slave where they had been eventually taken as wives and been accorded the honour of at least being remembered on a tomb stone.

Seems odd that God would only punish White slave traders when history has so many Black slave traders also.

Interesting that Islam (and other religions and cultures) has a very special place for slaves yet denies its obvious contribution to the continuance and development of ownership of other humans within our shared heritage going back to adam n eve.

If over history we have as we are told migrated from Africa then thousands of years of Black slave owners have past.

But I guess history is written and remembered only to show us (who ever that is) in the light we wish to bask in.

If Allah is merciful it seems that we all have to forgive each other, black or white, this or that...

there is a strange anomoly here though where killing is concerned when done by god (or I guess by anyone) because if you argue against a religious arguement within the confines of its belief system (world view) then death of the body is not really killing but transforming or releasing that which is more valuable.. The soul.

In this way killing in religious terms is and can be seen as a positive and good thing. understanding this little item goes a long way to seeing where some religious people are actually coming from which whilst I do not agree with it is actually within their minds an act of goodness or love and even for the benefit of us...

In this way the arguement that Black Americans will also die is a mute point as I guess the arguement would go that they will be liberated and find a place in heaven or the like... They are being done a favour in this bizaar arguement of mine ;)


cRunchy




3326) Message boards : Cafe SETI : from Jerusalem Post Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 (Message 94224)
Posted 3 Apr 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

> "Who're you gonna watch?"

You calling me a whore :o)))


Of course though I'd watch the guy with the machette but knowing my luck it would be a double act and the guy with the book would sneak up behind me...

Told you. It's the quiet ones :)

At least you know the intentions of the noisey ones. Most know the intentions of both the US and Islamic countries as they wear their hearts on their sleaves but who knows what the intentions of the man in the corner are?


cRunchy
3327) Message boards : Cafe SETI : from Jerusalem Post Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 (Message 94220)
Posted 3 Apr 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

>...the Koran reveals that the US will cease to
> exist in the year 2007

You mean the US still exists and the world hasn't come to an end yet...

Or is this some cruel sick joke to try and get me to come out of my millenium doomsday shelter...

I blame the Norweigans 'cause no one ever blames them for anything and we all know its always the quiet ones... :o)



cRunchy
3328) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Closed (Message 92435)
Posted 29 Mar 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

> I've modified the S@H forum code directly to require this forum to have credit
> in order for the post to be accepted.

It's been too long coming but glad its arrived Rom.

I used to have a saying in the youth projects I ran: "No Play No Stay.." but that was OK for children.

For a sociopath like WW, humanRoting and the like in the end there is no other solution than prompt and direct action however much our own social values dislike it.

Just don't envy your job.

cRunchy

3329) Message boards : Number crunching : Buggy old imitation number cruncher aka boinc (Message 89160)
Posted 22 Mar 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

> 99% of problems are USER related. Mostly NOOBs that go about yelling and
> complaining instead of finding out how to fix the problem.

Noobs initiation rites. Frustration --> Speaking Out Of Turn --> Public Hangings.. ;)

> Any heavy user
> know how weak Win98 was and how easy it was for it to get corrupted. Not to
> add to the fact that there have been no new security patches or OS updates to
> Win98 for a long time.

This might help some Win98se people:

UNOFFICIAL Windows98 Second Edition Service Pack 1.6.2

cRunchy


3330) Message boards : Number crunching : "Do not download anymore work" option client-side badly needed (Message 82023)
Posted 22 Feb 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> > After the recent outage I cleared some WU's however there are
> > 18 or so that are not being reported back.
> > cRunchy

> What you see is perfectly normal........
> .... right-click on the Seti project and select "update" if
> you want to report all the units immediately. They will
> then disappear from the list.......

> Hope this helps,

AlphaOz,

Thanks for that. Now I can't see them they can't bother me ;)

HeHe.. I do like to worry :)

Cheers

cRunchy
3331) Message boards : Number crunching : "Do not download anymore work" option client-side badly needed (Message 81947)
Posted 22 Feb 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I am in a quandry as to wherther I should destroy my WU's n Start Agian.

I guess it may relate to the same question as you guys are asking. If these WU's are not detached fully there is a real need to be able to give them a push from the client or as you say not allow any more WU's to download...

After the recent outage I cleared some WU's however there are 18 or so that are not being reported back.

I even downgraded BOINC again in the hope that any disconnected WU's might reintergrate.... However there is no change.



Some of the WU's are well over 10 days old now.


cRunchy
3332) Message boards : Number crunching : Checksum or signature error (Message 81912)
Posted 22 Feb 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

After the recent outage I have now cleared some WU's however there are 18 or so that are not being reported. I recently upgraded to 4.19 and I suspect that that was at the begining of the recent severe outage.

I'm thinking of downgrading again as there is no way of forcing an update \ upload of detached WU's from the work area of BOINC.



If this is a server error I would have expected many more people to have reported it...

I think this may be an error in the install process of BOINC or so disparity between the way different version of BOINC take on previous work.?

cRunchy
3333) Message boards : Number crunching : More time to return a result? (Message 81581)
Posted 21 Feb 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> Perhaps you should lower your cache size a bit? If you have completed work
> units on your computer from 10 days ago maybe you're caching too much!

I had to reduce my caching but it doesn't really answer the question as even with a lower number of unit actually on the PC the backlog during such a severe server outage still mounts up at exactly the same rate. A few of my 20 WU's completed and ready to report have now gone up but it did start to look like a couple might time out.

It would make sense to have the whole system more aware of it's own 'health' and change things like return date and giving out of WU's in accordance. For people like myself who check the state of BOINC once a day its not too great a problem to ajust stuff but eventually when I migrate this over to a front end \ file server I would like not to have to look at it unless a critical error occurs.


cRunchy

3334) Message boards : Number crunching : Waiting to upload... (Message 81128)
Posted 20 Feb 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> > Here's a few suggestions for everyone while we wait out another
> > outage
> crunch Einstein.

Humph :(

20 WUs waiting to up and loads in my cache still to crunch...

Doesn't the server giving out WU's automatically compensate by reducing output when there are critical uploading server outages?


cRunchy

3335) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Certificates (Message 79476)
Posted 15 Feb 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Certificates.

That's a brilliant idea SETI n Berkeley crew.

You lot are the bees knees :)


cRunchy
3336) Message boards : Cafe SETI : WordWeaver (Message 78943)
Posted 13 Feb 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> I miss WordWeaver.

Just look for the swastikas and anarchist stars.. you'll find other flavours of biggots to tickle your fancy...

Must agree though there has been some rubbish spouted in these forums of late and wordweavers upfront lunacy seems a tad bit better than people who spout psuedo intellectual excuses for fascism ..

Strange how seti seems to attract the unattractive :(

cRunchy
3337) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Forums are so slow Loading..... (Message 77036)
Posted 6 Feb 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
220b/s for forum content list and 2kbs for this thread to load...

... just the right speed for my old mobile phone ...

Someone needs to wind up the server the spring is running out :)

either that or start a specific server update donations collection going...

cRunchy
3338) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday - The Final Front Ear Team (Message 76725)
Posted 5 Feb 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> He wears cor blimey trousers
> And he lives in a council flat


I see from the level of conversation you guys have just got in from celebrating in the bars and nightclubs out there in Front Ear land...

It's cocktails round Keith's for everyone then if DogBytes been farting again... :)

Let the partying continue......

Lena: >> Hope to see ya all on the East Pole!!!

Now it's a pretty big East Pole depending where you are looking from... Best bring my years worth of party hats and chocy...

cRunchy
3339) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday - The Final Front Ear Team (Message 76454)
Posted 4 Feb 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
<P>
<B>The Final Front Ear</B> - <I>The Biggest Little Team Anywhere in the Universe</I> is celelbrating its first birthday today (and everyday the coming week and beyond...)
<P>
<P ALIGN="Center"><B>So it's a big</B>
<P ALIGN="Center"><B>H A P P Y &nbsp; B I R T H D A Y</B>
<P ALIGN="Center"><B>To All Team Member</B>
<P>
<P ALIGN="Center">There is also a very special message in from our friend 'Rad' from the third moon around the planet 'Uplonka'. ...
<P ALIGN="Center">He also wants to wish his favourite Earthlings at "The Final Front Ear" a very "Happy Birthday"...
<P>
<P ALIGN="Center">
<P ALIGN="Center">CLICK ME
<P>
<P>

<P>
Click here if you haven't seen our team web site yet.
<P>
If your looking for a team and are just crazy enough to choose us, or are just plain crazy, then you can come and visit our Welcome and Team Questions Forum before you take the plunge.
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cRunchy
3340) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Electro-magnetic weapons (Message 75339)
Posted 30 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Wasn't there a sub-sonic (or very nearly) device tested by the ?french? to quell riots many years ago?

cRunchy
3341) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Another 'Postcard' From The Edge... (Message 74854)
Posted 28 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

@NeoAmsterdam,

> What do you mean by "sped up"? There shouldn't be any difference in the audio
> - I never changed its speed...

This has been bugging me so I messed around with the 3ivx d4 filters. When I turn on "allow unsupported decoders" in the 3ivx media splitter the last version you posted 20050101.mp4 runs at correct speed.

This might be something to do with my setup or not. I don't have divx for example, just Xvid. I don't know if it makes any difference to anyone else though.. Maybe just me :)

Anyway. Looks and sounds great now.


cRunchy
3342) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Another 'Postcard' From The Edge... (Message 74780)
Posted 28 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Hi Chip,

> Hey cRunchy...
> Nice!
> Can you make the 'skip intro' link target a new window?

Not sure as the address is flash embeded but I shall look.

It should be easier for you though to open a new window and display in that from your link end using TARGET="_blank" in the url as in:

<A HREF="http://www.infoweaver.net/frontier/postcard" TARGET="_blank">link open new window</A>

The SETI forum does not allow the TARGET code so it will not work here but will under proper html.

> Zip 'em up and email me...

Have done.


cRunchy
3343) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Another 'Postcard' From The Edge... (Message 74763)
Posted 27 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> What do you mean by "sped up"? There shouldn't be any difference in the audio
> - I never changed its speed...

Maybe its my drivers but the whole thing ran fast. The original runs OK.

Possible that in decimating frames you sped the whole thing up?

Don't know what else to say until someone else compares the two on their system.

> Like your postcard - very Flashy. ;-)

Yes. Very Flashy indeed :)

My first so not too bad :)

cRunchy
3344) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Another 'Postcard' From The Edge... (Message 74741)
Posted 27 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> It couldda been worse. The finished master is 465.5MB - way too large (unless
> you're a download-masochist)!

He he.. Don't care anymore with broadband :). Used to take an hour to get a 5mb MP3 on dial up :(

> So this
> will be the final version - 18 frames per second, 6 frames per key, 2:10
> runtime, 3 MB MPEG-4, 320×240, 24kb/s AAC audio.

Visually very nice even at double size but the audio is speeded up. At the end it makes you have a higher pitched voice and it sounds like you are saying 'soccer' not 'salute' :)

Your original actually streamed quite well though I'm not on dialup.

cRunchy
3345) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Another 'Postcard' From The Edge... (Message 74733)
Posted 27 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
NeoAmsterdam,

I have another postcard for you but it will require me e.mailing you the whole set of files \\ parts to get it up on you site (it runs full page) or you can view it here:


A Final Front Ear Postcard (Requires Flash, Javascript and Frames.)

See what you all think?


cRunchy
3346) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Another 'Postcard' From The Edge... (Message 74435)
Posted 27 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> I put up a new version
> (2MB MP4) to fix some sloppiness in the first "print". This still
> is the smallest version I could manage. I hadda cut down on the frame rate,
> so the clouds now trudge by, but the on-span animation should be much smoother
> because I dropped the keys to every 4 frames.
>
> [EDIT] Now that I'm comparing it to the one I initially posted... yup. I blew
> the music. I'll fix it soon enough... [/EDIT]

I still think this is a nice piece and the music just goes great for that night time in the city feel...

Now you've squeezed it though its rather pixelated even at 1:1 where as before it was still reasonable at full screen. You can only squeeze so much :)

cRunchy
3347) Message boards : Number crunching : Hang on a minute.... Boinc 4.18 is here (Message 74288)
Posted 26 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> cRunchy,
> The issue today is security, and for the moment it is going to continue to get
> worse before it gets better. In Paul's opinion somewhere near 90% or better of
> the security problems are the sole result of bad programming selection. We
> know how to make computer languages that will perform many tests that prevent
> the very issues of buffer overrun class attacks.
>
> Regardless of that, I don't turn on the autopatch feature of MS OS because I
> want to look before they leap for me ...

This I guess is where I am a disadvantage not being a programmer or tech. Though when I click on that menu in countless pieces of software, to either check for or autoupdate, my router (or previous OutPost firewall) allow the connection and port to named site. Named site responds. Download happens or not. Router or firewall close port.

I have security checked this against a whole host of external port scanners and have never found any ports open that I did not already know about and non from such update software (except WinOS.)

We are talking about an internally created connection that is very specifically targetted. Now should you be saying that someone can spoof Berkeleys IP or web address and serve up malicious code then that can happen when I go to the download page and use IE for example.

If you are talking about an external connection being requested of BOINC well we are not talking about a server we are talking about a client that requests connections not accepts them.

Security is not an issue here. It is an issue for the OS as a whole and for router or firewall.

Microsofts update is another matter.

I am sure you have software on your PC right now that has update checking if you allow it to. This is done in the same passive method as me opening Iexplorer and downloading a web page with the words 'current BOINC 4.17 (Build: xxxx)'.. The security issues on that are exactly the same as you now reading these words..

I'm just pushing a point as I think its a valid one and one I would like to see considered at some time rather than what seem to be 'non-solution' feelings.

Basically whether my BOINC reads a web page that says version such and such or I read it with my eye has zero difference security wise and even less if a loader or separate updater was used...

But as I say I am not 'in the know' so shall leave the point there... with a big hopefull smile.


cRunchy
3348) Message boards : Number crunching : Hang on a minute.... Boinc 4.18 is here (Message 74269)
Posted 26 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> > .......it would be nice to have an 'auto-update' feature
> > built into BOINC.. .....

> Oh goodness. I can just immagine all the security people up in arms about
> that... SNIP..........

Now thats all the negative reasons sorted. Now what about the positives :)

All optional and can be placed in a separate loader program if needed. Passive http check for update page. Check against ini for version number. Flag download available or autoupdate... Either switch off BOINC and exit or update prior to running... END OF PROBLEMS.

This is the method used by hundreds if not thousands of pieces of internet aware software...

Any complaints will mostly come from tech heads but if distributed computing is to grow I think the 'academic' ones and the techs need to come into the real world. The majority of PC \ shared computing users in the future by force of numbers will have to be drawn from the general populace who really just want the damn thing to work and don't want the hoohaa...

The solution for manual or auto update has already been created over and over again. Libraries are out there waiting for a simple clear inhouse agreement on how it should be managed.

I suspect that should there be an agreed format for releases then someone even amongst the users will have the skills to write a small updater prog.. Just for those lazy no good computer burgers like me :)

Just a non techy thought.

cRunchy
3349) Message boards : Number crunching : Hang on a minute.... Boinc 4.18 is here (Message 74194)
Posted 26 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

OK. I haven't read too much up on BOINC itself so forgive me if it's somewhere in big letters but it would be nice to have an 'auto-update' feature built into BOINC..

Save lots of hassles all round..

The testers (the adventurous ones) can do all the hair pulling, wassup and nightly build stuff..

... and I can just sit back, sip coffeee and let the developers give me a prod when its safe to come out and click the update button or let it auto-update...

cRunchy
3350) Message boards : Number crunching : Clickable link in profile, possible? (Message 74167)
Posted 26 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> Actually, I think you found another bug ...
>
> The tags should be allowed, but the anchor and image tags are getting eaten.

Part of the anchor remains EG: <A>Link Text</A>


cRunchy
3351) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Another 'Postcard' From The Edge... (Message 74117)
Posted 25 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

> NeoAmsterdam's film is really classy. Worth a look if you get the chance.
> It is mp4 and can be directly downloaded from:
> http://w3range.net/postcards/media/na.mp4 (3MB?)
> It will play in Windows Media Player (though it uses an odd audio codec.)

OK. I took another look at this as this file will not play (complains of audio codec) in "Windows Media Player Classic"..

Should play in WMP but if not the codec problem may be the same.

The codec required for MP4 is 3IVX.. and can be got from:

3ivx Audio Codec for MP4

Worth getting Koepi's XviD video Codec whilst there as well..

cRunchy
3352) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Another 'Postcard' From The Edge... (Message 74091)
Posted 25 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

> Thanks for the link, but I already saw it.. I was just commenting that the
> link provided on Chips Site did not seem to work for me with either IE or
> Firefox and I have both WMP and QuickTime loaded in both browsers..

Perhaps they do not understand the MP4 tag when EMBEDed ?

> I just want to know how NA managed to stay on the Brooklyn Bridge all night
> without being mugged or arrested as a street bum :)

I wondered if he had done an overlay on the end.. Salute!

cRunchy
3353) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Another 'Postcard' From The Edge... (Message 74087)
Posted 25 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> > Some nice stuff there :)
> >
> > The Keith link didn't work for me tho, prolly cos I'm using firefox
> >
>
> I can view Keith's with FireFox, but for some reason the link to NA is not
> loading for me. I know I can view it cause I have already seen it using
> FireFox.
>
> [EDIT] Won't load with my IE either. [END EDIT]

In Opera I installed Quicktime Alternative. This runs though the webpage above has crashed Opera a few times.

NeoAmsterdam's film is really classy. Worth a look if you get the chance.

It is mp4 and can be directly downloaded from:

http://w3range.net/postcards/media/na.mp4 (3MB?)

It will play in Windows Media Player (though it uses an odd audio codec.)


cRunchy

3354) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Another 'Postcard' From The Edge... (Message 74065)
Posted 25 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Very nice idea...


> The Keith link didn't work for me tho, prolly cos I'm using firefox

Its WMV if that helps and should play via Win Media player Or better still 'windows media player classic'..

You might need a plugin for FireFox. I had to do similar for quicktime using Opera Browser :(

Eitherway you can download the wmv file here:

http://w3range.net/postcards/media/Cap0002.wmv (900kb?)

cRunchy
3355) Message boards : Number crunching : Signature test (Message 74049)
Posted 25 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> Nothing against, but SETI Cafe is better place for such a testing ...

Sending your riff raff our way hey :)

(Just testing to see if this sentence works :o)))


cRunchy
3356) Message boards : Cafe SETI : morphemes, enclitics, paronyms and heteronyms (spoonerists welcome) (Message 73650)
Posted 24 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

> Me, I popped up, while people were not quite done being pissed about some
> other behavior..............Ah hah. There his is..... he's just like the
> other. He's not even crunching. Get him..... Aw shit, I missed getting that
> other guy..... I'll help you get this one... Get him...

Paul,

It's your baptism of fire :}

If you've got what it takes and are strong of heart and can stay the length a cathartic moment will come and the community will accept you in full..

If nothing else it shows that people here feel they have something special they want to protect and when or if the folks welcome you it will be to something valued.

Mr. WordWallows and Mr. HumanRoting have a lot to answer for.. but no one new should have to suffer because of 'nuters' like them...

Life! The biggest RollerCoaster Ride Of Em All!

cRunchy
3357) Message boards : Cafe SETI : morphemes, enclitics, paronyms and heteronyms (spoonerists welcome) (Message 73533)
Posted 24 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Don't really know what the words in the title mean but I do like fun with words.

For those that like it a little per-verse:

From the homepages of Stephen K. Hess:

<B>The Raven, by Edgar Allen Poe (butchered in various translations):</B>

The Raven in English
The Raven by a Swedish Chef
The Raven in Cockney
The Raven by Elmer Fudd
The Raven in Jive
The Raven in Moron
The Raven in Pig Latin
The Raven in Redneck

cRunchy
3358) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Social Security is not going broke. (Message 73477)
Posted 23 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

> You ask Tyrone if he prefers working for his meals or being given Food Stamps
> simply because he doesn't want to work.

I was wondering who "Tyrone" was and where else he was mentioned or was this simply a reference to black people as the majority epitomised by a name?

Just wondering?


cRunchy
3359) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Red Ant Army (Message 73270)
Posted 23 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> A great man once said, "I am not a clam"....


Great beings need not know the pearls within
yet treasure the grain of sand from which they begin

cRunchy
3360) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Red Ant Army (Message 73264)
Posted 23 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> >>>Being a man from Brum, you must...
> By twisting the sacred name of Murb around to satisfy what's left of your wit
> and for your own sordid amusment
> You have insulted Murbian nationals wherever they are
> Never forget there are Murbs living nearby wherever they are

Yes. It was a famous family of Murbs that founded our great city back when we were lowly savages eating off the land and living in mud huts. Circa 1923 ad..

As all us Brumies were village idiots and couldn't spell so we asked an educated man who was on holiday here from Ruerto Pico to write it down for us.

But we could not read either so pretended we knew what it said...

Being backward we called it 'Brum' and being upset the family of Murbs moved to that other famous city in these fair isles called 'Nodnol' and made that the capital instead.

cRunchy
3361) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Red Ant Army (Message 73248)
Posted 23 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Actually it would be fair to move off this thread as it was Mig's after all and he has got his website up and runing which actually looks really interesting..

Mig's Red Ant Army links:
-------------------------

Click on this link to view the team page

http://www.redarmyseti.bravehost.com/


Sorry Mig :)


cRunchy
3362) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Red Ant Army (Message 73246)
Posted 23 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> Other than the obvious privilege of paticipating in interlarded exchanges of
> snappy repartee, what goals or purpose does coadunation serve in this
> endeavor?
>
> Just wondering....


Chance to learn new words :)) and be part of something bigger... sum of the parts and all that stuff..

Or on the otherhand just take a look at the madcap front ear website.. kind of fun just to belong..


cRunchy
3363) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Red Ant Army (Message 73190)
Posted 23 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> I warn you Miggins can be very forceful, she expects every man to get a firm
> grip of her ....

So warned I am... As long as I don't have to partake of her muffins I am sure I will be safe ;]

> .....I can't say any more for fear of reprisals. I'm only just recovering from
> my last emersion in a hot mustard bath, not to mention the thrashing with the
> nettles...come to think of it the nettles weren't that bad....;o)

Sounds like some pagan moot ritual just after the sweat lodge and before the cold bucket of water

> Being a man from Brum, you must be used to expect the unexpected.;o)

I love my Brum... So much better lookin these days.. well except for that fat ugly sequined monstrosity (<-- click to puke) they call a shopping mall... It is Brum though as you say :)

>.... You'd be given a warm welcome.

Cool..

cRunchy

3364) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Red Ant Army (Message 73185)
Posted 23 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> It's like a United Nations insane asylum, you have all types
> in various states of bewilderment and affectation of bizarre
> behavior. Wanna come over and play?

> Sorry, no dentists, but Laughingboy is a wannabe veternarian.


A quiet boy though I am I'd actually be very honoured to be in the company of toothless mascots, Spit the depressed Dog, the hansom and cumly lass Mrs (Stiffy) Miggins and the Final Front-Ear gang.

If that's an invite I'd like to join you!


cRunchy
3365) Message boards : Number crunching : Average Crunching Stats? (Message 73140)
Posted 23 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

> > How are the averages worked out for the table below?

> Here is the code that is
> used to calculate "Recent average credit".

Ah. I see. Nice and easy then ;) I think I need to read a bit more. Thanks for the link.


cRunchy
3366) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Red Ant Army (Message 73108)
Posted 22 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
>

Kind of reminds me of 'Bum Fights' which before I saw the video I thought was some kind of punk ritual where rear ends were banged very hard together in some kind of mad dance frenzy..

Are they all psychopathic dentists in the 'final front ear' .. :)

cRunchy
3367) Message boards : Number crunching : Average Crunching Stats? (Message 73102)
Posted 22 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
OK.

I was interested in finding the average per user per group but that isn't shown here by 'Average Credit'??

How are the averages worked out for the table below?

Team - Mbrs - Av Crd - Total
----------------------------------------------
OcUK - 2197 - 159,005.05 - 17,475,420
SETI.Germany - 10072 - 153,509.21 - 17,466,530
SETI@Netherlands - 4802 - 124,889.67 - 14,446,117

How would I get an idea of the average individuals credit for any single team or even the overall?

Just sitting here trying to figure out how many hours crunching I would need to do to reach paticular targets.


cRunchy

cRunchy
3368) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Red Ant Army (Message 73097)
Posted 22 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> Sorry about the last post. This link will not make you join. I am new and
> interested in the foundation of a team and therefore decided to start one of
> my own. I would appreciate all suggestions and participation.

Hi.

I'm not a member of any team but the things that I would look for if I was interested in joining a team are:

What makes that team interesting - What is the focus of its interests? For example: Is its interest\s related to location, hobbies, sports, arts, style of humour, serious interests, politics, values???...

All this will tell me whether any social (internet or real world) contact and involvement would suit me. Sometimes you can get this from the name but 'Read Ant Army' doesn't say much even if in itself it is an interesting name.

In a way it doesn't matter if all these change over time and the focus in the team shifts but it does matter that you 'sell' yourself to start with.

Basically I would be looking for a bit of 'blurb' that grabs my interest.

As to you being a 'hairy madman'.. That's probably only interesting to other 'Hairy Madmen' or even 'Hairy Mad Women' :o))

cRunchy
3369) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New Look To Website Awful!!! (Message 73019)
Posted 22 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> > Who came out as what??

> Consider your computer an apostrophy prison. Do not let them escape.
. _________
. ' ' ' ' '
. ' '0!0' '
.Q' ' L ' 'D
. ' '~=~' '
. ' ' ' ' '
. ---------

Of course you won't be able to see my little creation ;))


cRunchy

EDIT: Should have remembered the font is not fixed width :(
3370) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New Look To Website Awful!!! (Message 72655)
Posted 21 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

> One thing of annoyance I noticed of late, is that when I go answer in a long
> thread, I get to this answer window, then all of a sudden I jump back to the
> middle of the thread, just as I start typing (yes, I do see the cursor at that
> time in the answer window). Anyway, maybe a bug here or a bug in my Moz 1.8b.

I wondered whether this was relative to the servers effective bookmark to the message being replied to... Tried different messages here from end and start of thread but can not replicate as Opera (Emulating Moz) always goes to the centre of the text box correctly.


cRunchy
3371) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New Look To Website Awful!!! (Message 72652)
Posted 21 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:


> what they're asking for are "emoticons" - And that is bloat.

There are lots (maybe 50%) of people using images and emoticons already but linking from outside.

Some of those are broken and definatly get broken by the time they are quoted several times (A nice upgrade would be better quoting of links...)

All of this external linking and broken links have an effect. Sometimes my browser won't even finish a page as images hang.

In that sense having a few fun graphics on the server (I have a whole set of emoticons that take up less than 50kb) would stop this overload.

In this senario emoticons actually reduces bloat overall

cRunchy
3372) Message boards : Number crunching : Zero-Footprint-PC Elite-4 (Message 72495)
Posted 21 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> > Anyone ever heard of this type of computer? It's a computer that's inside
> a
> > keyboard.
>
> > Check it out: www.cybernetman.com

Its a rather ugly laptop gone wrong :)

I like the fanless mini-ITX: http://www.mini-itx.com/store/default.asp?c=2

Take a look at their 'project' pages. The Humidor is just pure beauty.

cRunchy
3373) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Social Security is not going broke. (Message 72207)
Posted 20 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

> I pay for welfare, food stamps, and government housing too, but I don't use
> them, BECAUSE I have a job. Those of us paying for welfare are already
> supporting ourselves in additon to the ones to lazy to work.

I pay for the hospitals and teachers others use more than I. I guess its a matter of values.

I guess you could be right though about these people being lazy. I always thought my grandfather was lazy.. Given he was unemployed many times during the 20s and 30s it kind of proves the point: Unemployment has nothing to do with ecconomic factors and everything to do with the fact my grand father's generation were just a lazy bunch of tramps.

Now thats clear I can save my cash and not give a jot to those lazy people in Africa. I'll just save even more for my old age and spend it on a nice secluded community house with gaurd dogs to keep the rifraf and peasants out.

Perhaps I'll be able to buy a castle with my saved dosh and blame the lazy peasants and surfs for all the worlds problems.. :)~

cRunchy
3374) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New Look To Website Awful!!! (Message 72109)
Posted 20 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> ...Keep in mind we will have a half million
> classic users moving in soon.....
> Timmy

We'll have to change the 'cafe' into a mess hall just to fit em all...

cRunchy
3375) Message boards : Number crunching : How to put link, bold, italic? (Message 72104)
Posted 20 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> Hi, I want provide just one nice tip, I hope you will like it.
> Posts in these BOINC message boards are understanding HTML tags, it means I
> can write bold, italic or put some <a> href="http://slavko.sk">link[/url] into my text. How?


More html tags that are currently understood are

<P ALIGN="Center">
<P ALIGN=Center>
<P ALIGN="Left">
<P ALIGN=Left>
<P ALIGN="Right">
<P ALIGN=Right>
<P ALIGN="Left">

<OL>
<LI>
List item a
<LI>
List item b
<LI>
List item c
</OL>


The List is achieved in this fasion:

<OL>
<LI>
List item a
<LI>
List item b
<LI>
List item c
</OL>
<P>



cRunchy
3376) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New Look To Website Awful!!! (Message 72094)
Posted 20 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I suspect it is work still in progress?

I like the fact that SET@home should get an upgraded front end. If nothing else it says that the SETI & Berkeley crew are participating in the life of the forum as well as wanting to try ways of welcoming people to the project and site..

I must agree with you though that it is not exactly 'balanced' to the eye.

Still its only just been changed so who know what wonders are in store for us later.

cRunchy
3377) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Social Security is not going broke. (Message 72063)
Posted 20 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> The bottom line is Social Security is welfare for old people,and like ALL
> forms of social aid, it's being abused, not by the rich, but by the LAZY.
>
> In this case, those who DID NOT prepare for their "golden years"

Is this a universal statement?

Any worker by law in the UK has to put away through tax and National Inssurance. How is that lazy?

The majority in our societies do not earn the figures that the government tell us they do and oft can not afford to put money away though I do agree that those that can should if not only for those extras that make basic life more enjoyable.

The calling people "lazy" aspect is a swallowing of the general negativisms against people who are poorer and those without a job. The state needs a pool of mobile unemployed to fill in the gaps in the ecconomy.

> 1) Social Security was never meant to be your sole or a permanent source of
> income. It's supposed to be a TEMPORARY solution, like Food Stamps and
> Government Housing, for those who have stumbled, but are trying to get back on
> their feet, or very close to death. 65 in 1935 was OOOLLLDDD!!!

Most longevity is attributed to clean water, good sanitation, immunisation (or awareness of communicability and some solution to) and a range of foods not by individual medication which are in themselves expensive.

Take a look at the success ancient societies have had with longevity.

We could say we are all 'lazy' as labour is subsidised by tech advancement and resources and can not be attributed equally.

Your 1 hours worth of work in the factory will buy you 2 gallons of petrol. That very same amount of petrol will take you 60 miles. That very 60 miles would take you 12 hours to walk as opposed to the 2 hours worth of actual labour.

All of our work only amounts to anything for us if that subsidy remains true for our children and grand children as 'they' will be paying our pensions not 'us'.

The labour subsidy also brings greater real time tax income for investment in future planning... for example old age services.

If the trend continues then those earning today are actually produce in subsidised abundance. That here at least should mean our children's payment capacity should be higher.

> 2) It was never meant for folks living to be 100+ years of age (drawing SS for
> nearly 40 years). An unforseen drawback to improved medical care. Who would
> have guessed in 1935 (FDR signs Social Security Act) that the AVERAGE life
> span would more than double?

Same here in the UK but we have a generally stable birth rate and the average lifespan of a man is around 70 not 100. That is only 5 years as far as my maths go.

If you look at the figures related to unemployment payments relative to the local ecconomy it is quite revealing in terms of the 'actual' resources consumed.

If you are unemployed you pay far more back into the local ecconomy relative to your spending power. Unrecoverable resources such as food, clothes, heating, rent are taxable items and also are dissadvantaged by higher local shop prices. At the end of the day nearly "all" of the SS income is spent back into the local ecconomy or go via tax.

I should imagine that no more than 20% of the amount paid to someone needing SS is actually lost so the cost to the ecconomy at least is far less than people assume. Rent of £50 for example will yield £45 profit for the long term landlord and tax on that will amount to around %30 in the long term.

The state may pay for rent on SS but it actually pays the landlord not the benefit claimant and then claims 30% tax back.

Its a false arguement that someone who recieves £70 benefits (SS) consumes the lot. A far guess is that they actually consume outright about £15 of that the rest being returned in one way or another.



cRunchy
3378) Message boards : Number crunching : Wow: 106 TeraFlops (Message 71892)
Posted 19 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I'm totally useless at these sorts of computer concepts or figures but how does this relate to my profile where my (XP AMD 1.3GHz) PC is measured at: ?

* Floating point speed 1105.98 million ops/sec


Thinking that the average computer on the system might be similar to mine then the figures work out like this:


1105000,000 (FLOPS)
80,721 (Users)
------------------
89,196,705,000,000 (Result)

Or 89 Tera FLOPS...

But my PC may not be typical or some users are running several PCs?

cRunchy
3379) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Do you have a dream? (Message 71886)
Posted 19 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Yes. To have a dream come true :)



Happy talk, keep talking happy talk,
Talk about things you'd like to do,
You gotta have a dream, if you don't have a dream,
How you gonna have a dream come true?

Talk about a moon floating in de sky looking like a lily on a lake,
Talk about a bird learning how to flyMaking all the music he can make
Happy talk, keep talking' happy talk,Talk about things you'd like to do,
You gotta have a dream, if you don't have a dream,How you gonna have a dream come true?

Talk about a star looking like a toyPeeking through de branches of a tree,
Talk about a girl, talk about a boy,Counting all de ripples on de sea
Happy talk, keep talking happy talk,
Talk about things you'd like to do
You gotta have a dream, if you don't have a dream,How you gonna have a dream come true?

Talk about a boy saying to de girl: "Golly, baby, I'm a lucky cuss!"
Talk about a girl saying to de boy: "You an' me is lucky to be us!"
Happy talk, keep talking' happy talk,Talk about things you'd like to do,
You gotta have a dream, if you don't have a dream,How you gonna have a dream come true?
If you don't talk happy and you never dream,Then you'll never have a dream come true.


cRunchy
3380) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Social Security is not going broke. (Message 71880)
Posted 19 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> crunchy,

> my guess is your 'notions' about your own system are as misconstrued as the
> 'notions' most Americans have about our own system.

As to government social security (as opposed to people making their own provisions)I imagine I am fairly well aware given the nature of the cradle to death notion which the majority of Brits experience to some degree.

It does not change the fact that what people pay today does not get invested as such in their future above that of investing in todays recipients.

> If you had BOTHERED to
> read the info I supplied,

Fair comment :)

> Here's a llttle more info on your system, Now fair comment as I am
>...it's a good lesson for Americans
> too, since Bush is suggesting what your country has aready discovered is a bad
> idea.

> I think it was 1979 that Britain instituted a partial privatization option
> into their retirement program. That proved to be a mistake.

1979 saw the election of a particularly perocial form of conservatism built upon a somewhat pre 60s backlash in middle england.

It was a period of anti left wing action aimed at undercutting the mass desire for better wages and making bussiness more profitable.

It also saw the privitisation (or the beginnings) of electricity, gas, water etc... where thousands of working class people were con'ed into the idea that they could buy a part of what they already owned and either become rich or have greater control in their ecconomy. Doubt 99% of those people now would think it was such a great idea now.

The problem with this form of privitisation is that it NEVER works. There will always be sections of any industry or service that will require subsidy.

The UK Post Office is a case in point. My father a staunch conservative small bussiness man once moaned to me that unlike in his day (that old chestnut) the post office no longer delivered post on time.

I had remind him that that was nothing to do with the present government and actually went back to those halcian days that he waxed lyrical about and was the fault of the very government (conservative 1979) who had striped the country's public industries of its silver and sold it to their mates.

The post office as it stands today no longer has the money making aspects that once supported the less money making facets like post offices in rural areas.

My own area of work saw the destruction at the same time of certain old laws (in my case the 1944 Butler Education Act) which enabled local councils to gradually put less money into the services I worked in.

The shift of 1979 was a much larger move than simply being trial and error policy. It was a cultural shift to some part driven by a desire to attack notions of solidarity in the UK.

Every government brings flavours but in terms of what was trying to be achieved in the UK at that time by that government I would say it was pretty successful...

It was returning power and wealth to the pre-war middle section of our society and attempting to boost their ecconomic ability.

Now I'm not pro right (or left) wing but out of that period came a certain amount of breaking with the older monolithic traditions that may have helped Britain fair a little better.

At present I would say the life style of the lower end of society here is slightly better though some of that is subsidised by technology and generally more and cheaper goods.

> Since then, the nation’s basic pension, which is paid for out of tax
> receipts, has shrunk dramatically. The United Kingdom has the stingiest state
> pension program of any G8 nation, and there is growing consensus that reform
> is needed.

My mother in Germany has lesser benefits even though she gets some state aid. She does not get free medication for example.

> Britain’s experiment with substituting private savings accounts for a portion
> of state benefits has been a failure. A shorthand explanation for what has
> gone wrong is that the costs and risks of running private investment accounts
> outweigh the value of the returns they are likely to earn. On average, fees
> and charges can reduce pension lump sums by up to 30 percent on retirement.
> The nation’s savings industry, which sells those private accounts, has already
> acknowledged this.

There has been a lot of scams over the years also and a lot of people burnt. It makes absolute sense for any healthy ecconomy to support its aged.. The mistakes made by the right of 1979 were less mistakes though and more highway robbery.

Its a cycle I suspect we shall see again and again. Allow the nation to get fat and then plunder its wealth.

> Which brings us to irony No. 2: Just as the United States prepares to funnel
> untold billions to its private sector for the management of private accounts,
> back in 2002, many U.K. insurance companies, mindful of tough new rules in the
> U.K. against giving bad advice, began to write to their customers urging them
> to consider abandoning their private savings and returning to the state
> pension system -- something hundreds of thousands of Britons have done
> already.

As said we are doing this also because of the scams pulled by many companies and the hidden losses that ended in the destruction of that conservative 'dream' of the 80s...

At the end of the day figures are figures and I suspect that whether we have a stable social security tommorow will depend on ecconomics of the future as you say.

One interesting twist though is that in Britain they often run TV adverts as they have underspent the social security pot due to unclaimed benefits that people have a right to.

It would be interesting to hear what a new non-disabled pensioner with fully paid stamp (dues) would recieve? (Lets say they pay rent, local rates (water etc..), regular medication (Flu Jabs, dental, glasses..) in the USA (or even other Euro countries.).

In the UK they would get something like £70 + rent + council tax (local rates, fire dept), free medication, dental, optic, orthopedic etc... Free busspass.


cRunchy
3381) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Social Security is not going broke. (Message 71769)
Posted 19 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I know nothing about the US system but here in the UK many people have the notion that their social security payments (as portions of their wages taken) is some how being saved up for their future. In reality they are actually paying for the pensions of the current recipients.

If that is true in the US also then no comparison can be made between future savings for general benefits and future expectations for pensions as there are no savings as such... just predictions that have the same validity as any ecconomic forcast for a country..

In fact it would probably be safer to look at future general ecconomic trends as a base figure to the security possibility of its social welfare system than some secondary figures.

It will also of course be dependant on whether those in power in the next 20 years or so support the very concept of social welfare to start with.

cRunchy
3382) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New milestone for (Message 71654)
Posted 19 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Quarter Of A Million.. Cool....

Reaching such crunching hights seems like a distant dream to little me just starting out... but guys like you make that dream feel a lot more achievable...

<P Align="Center">C o n g r a t u l a t i o n s

D o g B y t e s


<P Align="Left">
cRunchy
3383) Message boards : Number crunching : Broken XP fixed but now 2 BOINCs.. What to do? (Message 71649)
Posted 19 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Thanks guys. Shall say farewell to them... and welcome back to 5 years of old e.mails I thought I'd lost on the damaged disk...

Backing up like mad today... nothing like fixing the roof after it has rained :)

cRunchy
3384) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Forum Moderators (Message 71567)
Posted 19 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> Rom, just wondering will the moderators be online only at certain times of the
> day and will it be known to the fora as they "sign on/off" or do they intend
> to remain anon ?

Whilst the cats away...... the keyboards will play....


cRunchy
3385) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Forum Moderators (Message 71565)
Posted 19 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> > > Currently the forum moderators are:
> > > Jens, Janus, AthlonRob, myself, and David.
> > > More will be added as needed.

> > My condolenses :p

> OK, But I get to make their Avatars!

Do you dream of avatars when you sleep :)

Next we need the T Shirt... (Cool Idea actually. SETI Shirts :)

Couldn't design a girlfriend for me could you whilst your at it.. You know, the silent type, for the man that never leaves his computer... be great if she came with a quad CPU though :)


cRunchy
3386) Message boards : Number crunching : Broken XP fixed but now 2 BOINCs.. What to do? (Message 71552)
Posted 19 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I was chomping away quite merrily when a gremlin killed my main XP drive so I set up another (with the idea that the first may never get fixed) and started Boinc_Seti on that...

Now I have rebuilt the first disk enough to see and grab files meaning there are most likely 3.5 WUs still in time and waiting to be crunched.

Should I just kill them or is there a way to copy them across into the new setup?

cRunchy
3387) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Looking Good - Rom n Gang (Message 71541)
Posted 19 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> Why are you using 800×600?
> Crank that baby up!
> What's the max on it, 1280×1024?
> If you've got it, flaunt it!
>
> [ADDENDUM] Unless it's hard to read, in which case...

It's a 15 inch monitor... I've had it at larger screen depths but I broke my binoculors :)

I quite like the personal nature of 800 x 600 but there is no reason html can't cope with that...

When I've got my 100 inch sticky tape fresnel lens TV screen projector working there won't be any problem at any setting... Just got to find my glasses to read the instructions :o))))


cRunchy
3388) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Looking Good - Rom n Gang (Message 71437)
Posted 18 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> > The (home page) banner is great but doesn't wrap or fit wholly on my
> 800x600
> > screen.

> Wraps correctly at 1152x864 in Mozilla Suite 1.8b, so it may be your Opera
> that's doing that.

Not Opera as far as I can tell. I emulated all browsers in Opera and tried also in iExplorer. Its the screen size that is the problem.

Most web designers do not write for the different screen sizes assuming people will always have 15 inch plus screens and use higher that 800 x 600.

Maybe due to the way a repeating image is used as the background to the banner right of the page??

Anyway its just a footnote as it doesn't really inhibit the use of the site. Just makes it look slightly odd.

cRunchy
3389) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Looking Good - Rom n Gang (Message 71431)
Posted 18 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Now I must learn not to speak too soon as I feel like I can predict the future..

Its lookin even greater than it did this morning (mine) here on Opera.

One thing though (I guess it'll be different for everyone) is the links on the home page are orange (for me) so are not so easy to see...

The (home page) banner is great but doesn't wrap or fit wholly on my 800x600 screen.

Other than that its just superb for me.

As to using up time that could be better spent elsewhere I reckon a little time spent now will mean people will be more free later to do other jobs. (Stitch in time and all that...)

The look of the forum will lift the profile and hopefully some of the other background changes (such as moderation and problem control) will mean less future long term destructive activities.... as we have seen of late :(

Anyway. Thankyou. Rom, Janus and team.

cRunchy
3390) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Looking Good - Rom n Gang (Message 71240)
Posted 18 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> Looks like HTML 3 to me - no color and table border="2".
> Not to say that it's bad, but... .o0(Don't know how to finish that
> sentence...)

I guess I mean on a comparative level to what it has been like. As not everyone uses Opera like I does sometimes boards look cr@p but this one looks nice.

Now a www.phpbb.com et al style board of course would look totally fabulicious but thats another story.


cRunchy
3391) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How cold is it where you are? (Message 71187)
Posted 18 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> I'm in Portugal and it's 14 C

14 C !!! I'm moving to Portugal next winter then :)

cRunchy
3392) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How cold is it where you are? (Message 71185)
Posted 18 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> Here in Ohio, it's 3 F (-16 C)

What you using to keep warm? The fridge/freezer with doors wide open :))

Positivly roasting here at 4c here in Birmingham UK. They call it the Bahamas of the UK ;)



cRunchy
3393) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Looking Good - Rom n Gang (Message 71176)
Posted 18 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Noticing some changes to the look of the board.

Looks nice here on Opera (browser).

Wraps well to the page and font is a nice size now.

Cheers.

cRunchy
3394) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Children, Children, Children... (Message 71067)
Posted 18 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> > Punch the f&^*ing Avatars up your ass.

> Ever heard of Anger Management Classes?

Squint - Hunger Angerment Glasses - Squint

Whats them :)

cRunchy
3395) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What does you're handle mean? (Message 70983)
Posted 18 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Mine predates any thoughts of seti or boinc and originally was an attempt to sum up the grungy, crickly, cranky ole burger I feel I am without having to result to calling myself 'cRusty' ;)

cRunchy
3396) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A question for Rom... (Message 70981)
Posted 18 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> Would it be possible to dispense with the extraneous backwash from last
> Fridays incident (pgs 2-7)?
>
> I'm pretty sure the respective authors would not see a problem with this.

... And there was me thinking my words are just pure gold...

Hold on a mo.. I can make more... Wey Hey..

Go on Rom chuck my ole rubbish and reprises away as well.. be like starting over...

cRunchy
3397) Message boards : Number crunching : Dual Processors....bahahahaha! (Message 70889)
Posted 17 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Not a 2 CPU guy myself but would this program be of any use to any of you guys? Wonder if you could run two instances of BOINC?: Mike Lin's SMPSeesaw

Worth always getting his StartUP CPL prog aswell..

cRunchy
3398) Message boards : Number crunching : New CPU ... got problems (Message 70782)
Posted 17 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Tatheg,

From my current XP trials and tribs' I have these useful links.

Firstly after any new hardware update (though not always) you need to set BIOS back to its default, basic or fool proof settings not 'optimised'..

http://www.bootdisk.com/
------------------------
To test the basic CPU & System get any win98 type bootdisk and startup with CD enabled. Do a test directory list of all drives.

If you still can't get into XP enough to use the CD (which is expected given no real DOS..) then whilst still booted of the win9 floppy:

Put a CD in your machine. Do a directory list (dir) This will tell you if the CD is functional on a basic level.

http://www.memtest86.com/
------------------------
Useful floppy as it will not only test your memory but indicate if the system is working in the first place. (Ignore any memory errors unless you are sure the system itself is fully functional..)

http://www.bootdisk.com/readntfs.htm
-------------------------------------
Will show you files on your NTFS drives. If it can't then your NTFS file system is damaged (though may be repairable.)

XP Floppy Start
---------------
If you need the XP floppy boot disks get them here: WinXP_EN_PRO_BF.EXE

If these do not enable reading from the CD then there is a problem with hardware or its configuration.

Other stuff that has helped me with problematic boots:

+ Remove or move network cards.
+ Remove or move some of the memory.
+ Change or move video cards.

(All these can be put back when the machine is booting into windows OK.)

I'm still sorting out my problem (different problem to yours) but these basic tools have enabled me to have a clear ground on which to work from..

cRunchy

3399) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Plea to Fellow Posters (Message 70765)
Posted 17 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> I'd start a charitable collection.
> Let's all chip in and buy the admins to
> tools they're going to need: Aspirin,
> antacids, anti-depressants,
> somniferants, and ear plugs.

> .o0(What kind of present can you
> give to masochists?)


One of those stretchy throwable MR. Stress toys...


cRunchy
3400) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Children of the 40's, 50's, 60's or 70's (Message 70761)
Posted 17 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> .....Having said all that, no-one locked their
> doors until they went to bed.

I often leave my door or windows open and get told off by my 60+ year old neighbours.

Often its a matter of where I live but at the moment I am on the intersection of suburbia and an estate.

Mind I do not leave them as open as I did when I lived in the inner city as in the inner city there are always a greater number os respectable people on the streets and it felt safer.

I wonder if its the number of people using the streets these days that affects our peceptions (along with the number of goodies we now want to protect in our homes)?

cRunchy
3401) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Plea to Fellow Posters (Message 70741)
Posted 17 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> > Hi Gang,
> > I just wanted to ask us all not to post anymore
> > responces to our current recurring problem.

You've all been very naughty :) I of course (MR. Never.Butter.Mouth.Melts) have been a good boy of late :))

> > Rom and the Team are handling the situation.

More respects to them but I think they have simply moved the focus of this madness, from us on the forum, on to themselves.

I personally (through bitter, personal experience) can't commend that action but it's their call so I'm happy to see how it all turns out without adding (too much) to the affray..

cRunchy

3402) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Children of the 40's, 50's, 60's or 70's (Message 70731)
Posted 17 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

It is a true wonder indeed but for me (MR NegativeRights :)) I suspect the greatest life expectancy changers are (1) fresh water, (2) good sanitation, (3) ample varied food and (4) general health knowledge of how to sure or quarantine public diseases. Everything else is just minor.

We have lived so long because the great 4 are historic life changers.

My father in an odd sense pulled it all together for me when he reminded me (with a sadistic smile on his face) that I could have been one of the thalidomide generation. (Though thalidomide is actually a brilliant drug with respect to cancer, leprosy et al.)

Though yes I agree we have gone rather 'rules' mad at times.. A health centre where I go and do some washing up at after the clients evening meal once a week has been threatened with having their cooker taken away because the top (head hight) collects dust.. The official that threatened this did not say they would take away the fridge (same hight), the lower surfaces, the air ducts, the workers :) etc....

I do think some people with these types of jobs left education without realising that they need to look up from their books once in a while...

As to go-carts, brakes and running into the bushes I remember my first tricycle and being pushed on my way down a slight incline... The choice was either the road or a brick wall at the back of a garage. Even I at the age of 5 knew that the wall was a better choice... I still have the scars today.

Amuses me that some have the idea that the world is a hostile place or that humans are wicked or bad in general... Yet were still here after millions of years of knocked knees and bruised heads...

cRunchy
3403) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What music are you listening to right now if any? (Message 70370)
Posted 16 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Toyah Wilcox. Blue Meaning.

My teens heart throb n mean punket.

cRunchy
3404) Message boards : Cafe SETI : new here (Message 70136)
Posted 16 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

> I can choose to download one WU at a time, and it's only a few hundred k per
> WU?

On my connection when I set my 'Connect to network about every' 'X' days to '0.1' I get only one WU to crunch. If I set it to '0.5' I get 4 WU's to crunch (one at a time.)

> Is it the 'crunching' that takes 6 hrs? Is it the 'crunching' I'd want to
> kill while using my memory intensive programs?

I generally see no problems on my computer when doing labour intensive tasks. I can watch a divx movie for example with no problems. BOINC plays nice and its priority is set below normal which means most other apps simply have priority on the CPU.

> ....I can turn the crunching off and on at my whim?

Yes.

> Is it a problem if I do drop off while downloading? or do I just try try
> again.

Not sure if WU's or BOINC have resume download?

> I've got like a 20 some meg recommended java upgrade that will probably be
> revised or replaced before I can download it. I've tried to download that
> one many times and have not been successful yet. .....that's what my fears
> were based on.

Sounds like you could do with a download manager that has 'resume' capabilities.. I like FlashGet: www.amazesoft.com

> If my 2yr old grandson can lock up a computer, I assure you I am capable of
> doing something to disable or harm one too.

Read my other thread 'XP experts'.. I have killed a lot of computers in my time but I was suprised by BOINC. It works well.

cRunchy
3405) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Any XP Disk Experts Here.. I killed my boot sector :(( (Message 70121)
Posted 16 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> > Celtic Wolf,

> > > I am assuming that you have a Desktop Viao and not the laptop.
> > No a picturebook (C1vn).

> OK disregard everything I said.. You are screwed!!! :)
> If it was the desktop Vaio you might have had a chance. The only chance you
> have now is another picturebook and mounting this drive as the primary drive.

Sorry. The damaged disk is on my desktop PC not the Vaio.

The Vaio is now up and running win2k. The Vaio was a link in the story and explained how I got to where I now am.

The damaged XP disk is now sitting near my desktop PC waiting for me to find software that can locate the NTFS backup file directory and extract the files.

As to 'too many cooks'... It's actually useful at this moment to hear what people think (except the doom ones :) )..

Guess I'll go have breakfast and try later...

Cheers

cRunchy
3406) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Any XP Disk Experts Here.. I killed my boot sector :(( (Message 70113)
Posted 16 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Cheers guys,

Have been able to see and browse the NTFS directories using Active Partition Recovery but have not yet been able to copy over any of the files.

Basically the disk is showing up as fat32 though it is actually my XP primary boot drive... I have found some info on repairing a corrupt boot sector and nt file directory but nothing specific to my situation.

There are a few files (fat32) that had been cloned onto this drive erroneously and that has probably damaged (start of?) the XP NTFS partician.

I can access the disk (the fat32 files) if I place it as slave and either boot into the current winME on my master or use a floppy to boot. I haven't attempted any deletion or changes as that may kill the drive all together..

ReadNTFS should be able to copy off files but it can't see them as it expects a healthy NTFS disk.

I'm a bit closer but still miles away... However being able to see and browse the files (which still look intact) is promising...

Anyways.. got to get back to it...

cRunchy

cRunchy
3407) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Any XP Disk Experts Here.. I killed my boot sector :(( (Message 70103)
Posted 16 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Celtic Wolf,

> I am assuming that you have a Desktop Viao and not the laptop.

No a picturebook (C1vn).

> The problem is not the drive itself but with the controller. I have never had
> a problem moving disks from system to system with built in controllers. The
> chip sets for the built-in controllers are usually all from the same
> manufactors.

This was the basic problem and whilst there are lots of methods to prepare the disk for a move it is dependant on the recipient.. The Vaio is very very very proprietry :(

cRunchy
3408) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Any XP Disk Experts Here.. I killed my boot sector :(( (Message 70011)
Posted 16 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> 13 loops. Any less will prolog the agony
> and more could cause decapitation..

Now I think decapitation will not be too much on my mind after the deed :)

> Who says you can't more an XP drive from PC to PC?? I better stop doing it
> then hahahaha

The ones I tried wouldn't take.

I'm talking about distinctivly different machines. I set my vaio harddrive up with win98 on my PC and dumped it into my VAIO and it ran up with zero problems. The previous attempt with win2k just gave that blue screen with device unreadable... Even wouldn't take after I had unistalled all drivers back on the PC and created an alternate hardware profile before rebooting on the vaio..

The disk I am running now is an old 98\ME one I keep for such situations as the one I've just experienced and testing systems quickly.

If there is quick n easy 2K+ secret where hardware is distinctive I'd love to know.

Think its time I got a backup and file server sorted as I'm fed up of killing my data & docs.

cRunchy
3409) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Any XP Disk Experts Here.. I killed my boot sector :(( (Message 69989)
Posted 16 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Thanks Guys....

I'll just get a rope and tie the knot myself shall I :o)



Nothing to do with the BIOS which detects the HD parameters fine.

One thing to say for Win98 et al is that I can take any primary drive and dump it into any PC and get up and running within minutes... That for me is where XP & 2000 suck...


... Anyway how long did you say the rope was meant to be...


I'll be back...

cRunchy
3410) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Any XP Disk Experts Here.. I killed my boot sector :(( (Message 69965)
Posted 16 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I've had a mad weekend after my Vaio picturebook C1 died on an attempted 2K upgrade... Anyway I swapped out the disk to my desktop and did a lot of messy stuff... eventually being able to put the disk back in the Vaio and get Win2k to install..

HowEver: When I put my desktop PC (where I run BOINC) back together I had major problems..

During the install onto the VAIO disk I had left my desktop's main drive (NTFS XP) attached but as this was now an unseen secondary drive I gave it zero thought...

Bottom line is that my desktops main hard drive which was 8gig NTFS with XP now shows itself as 11gig and DOS FAT32.... (Shows the same directory structure as the vaio disk..) Basically I think something went wrong and the FAT \ boot sector from the Vaio drive got imprinted over it...

(I think the table has been overwritten but suspect not the actual files \ data..)

Anyone know how to repair an NTFS boot sector?

I'm going to try out NTFSRead tonight.

Any other suggestions?

Basically I don't care if I have to install XP again but I have a lot of data and documents I would like to salvage if possible..

Help :(


cRunchy
3411) Message boards : Cafe SETI : new here (Message 69956)
Posted 16 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Howdy Doody Paul,

Welcome to Cafe de la Seti. The only place where the trolls 'give you' the weapons to shoot them :)

Its been a turbulent time of late and as a fair recent bod' myself I did wonder whether I had caused all the rumpous as it started when I walked in the door... or was that when I walked 'into' the dooor...

> I'm just technologically literate enough to be paranoid about the security of
> my machines if I 'link' up.

All I can add is that on my 1.3Gig Athlon home_made BOINC runs great all the time. It was on XP until yesterday when like a plonker (fool) I somehow overwrote the boot sector of my PC with that of a different hard disk.. Now I'm running back in the stone ages on WinME... BOINC still runs easy and without problems.

I use a router for security (though routers are very leaky) and haven't had a problem.

That's it. I would say have a go. Ver 4.13 is the current release though I'm running 4.14 with no probs.

Welcome to the mixing pot. Have fun and if you meet our seemingly resident nutter of HumanBlights use some magitastic confabulations or just run for the hills and all shall be well..

Regards n welcome

cRunchy
3412) Message boards : Cafe SETI : @ SETI staff: an ignore button would be nice. (Message 64713)
Posted 14 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> cRunchy-
> >>>>I have yet to see you express yourself with anything but
> respect and honesty.....

> You have then missed my efforts to trip an idiot over his own words- an
> undertaking I have learned is an excercise in futility...

I guess thats the point really. The only thing any of us have been able to notice recently around here has been the attempted 'coup' by the destructive ones..

I'm just fed up of it.. sorry if I over laboured my point though...

it all makes me look forward to some nice normal everyday boring old stuff happening :)

cRunchy

3413) Message boards : Cafe SETI : @ SETI staff: an ignore button would be nice. (Message 64664)
Posted 14 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
>... I have yet to see you express yourself with anything but
> respect and honesty....

Carl. That's the thing that got me also because I have never seen or felt you to be a destructive person so in many ways the framework people are building here would hardly affect you or many others at all..

Not all rules are meant to control people some are actually meant to protect the good we have... though as in every walk of life we accept some rough with the smooth.

cRunchy
3414) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beginning of things to come RE: Troll-bait (Message 64657)
Posted 14 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

> > The law makes it illegal to incite racial hatred here in the UK.

> Contrary to popular belief the laws in the US are pretty much the same..

Sorry. I just spoke of what I know for sure and wasn't inferring that other countries don't have such laws or values either direct or indirect.

I actually assume that the US, UK and the majority of other countries would be similar in one way or another these days.


cRunchy
3415) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beginning of things to come RE: Troll-bait (Message 64649)
Posted 14 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> cRunchy-
> Inciting racial hatred, as sick and degrading as it is to the family of man,
> is a favorite pastime of many millions of inhabitants of this planet.
> Just read your paper

I know but thats why we try to control as best we can that behaiviour. It makes no sense to have a 'no rules' way of life and then complain if there are bad things happening in the world.

The question I was asking you was what do you think are acceptable ways to behaive on a forum and what points would you not go beyond or not want others to go beyond?

Not all limits are bad and here is a chance for you and me to be involved in laying out the boundaries of what we want to see in this small section of our world.

Just because there is racial hatred and war in the world does not mean we have to accept it. As individuals we start here where our feet are.

What do you think are good rules of behaiviour or bad on forums. Your opinions on this can have an effect on the general consensus and consensus is the very thing that communities are actually made of.

Consensus with the ability to have difference of opinion is what great communities are made of.. which is why I think people here want to set some guideliness so they can make it clear to destructive people that we have something worth protecting.

cRunchy
3416) Message boards : Cafe SETI : @ SETI staff: an ignore button would be nice. (Message 64640)
Posted 14 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> The idea of assigning a score to what someone writes is repellent to me

Interesting but you have actually just assigned a score in a sense. You have said that an idea that people were talking about is "repellent" to you.

that in any other sense is a negative score for the idea. you have voiced a value related opinion... a score.

We all do it even if we do not notice ourselves doing it or think we are above such things.

How would you score me if I came on the board and said 'Hitler' or 'Pol Pot' were good men? you could just ignore me or you would psychologically score me and reply based upon your values and beliefs..

In the forums case to score someone is not so much a punishment but a way of showing community pleasure or displeasure given the score can go up or down dependant on numbers...

It is frightening when people start to gell as a community but that is what is happening here and from what I can see it is one that has an open space for you, me and anyone else interested in participating in a constructive way but it may not have patience with those who come here to damage the forum.

Scoring like walls can have a positive use.

cRunchy

3417) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beginning of things to come RE: Troll-bait (Message 64632)
Posted 14 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> I'm certainly not going to moderate my crunching activities for this project
> But if anything I choose to write must meet someone elses approval before it
> can be posted-
> Well then I'm certainly done with the boards
> Think about it

The law makes it illegal to incite racial hatred here in the UK. I suspect it is also incumbant on any media provider such as a forum to ensure that they are not supporting an individual to incite racial hatered through their inaction leading to complicity.

In this way you have no choice if you value your freedom to comply with other peoples views.

Is that a bad thing?

I think we are not talking about stoping people from chatting on most subjects but ensuring that certain people or views do not hold the community to ransom and destroy the very board by which you and I have a voice.

Remember that the first of any services that destructive people try to get rid of is the media and information or communication services.

Isn't having a few guidlines and rules worth it to save that very thing some would complain they are loosing.

After all if these destructive people destroy this board you would have no voice by which to tell us your opinion which you have just enjoyed the freedom to do so.

cRunchy
3418) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Captain Avatar (Message 64618)
Posted 14 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> > I've gone ahead and signed up though, I'll check it out.

> I use Outlook Express at home and Outlook at work. But I'm becoming more
> partial to Gmail. They have an excellent spam auto-filter. I'd say it gets
> it right around 99% of the time, unlike Hotmail who's success rate is around
> 20% for me.

did I read their blurb right? i thought they had pop access (meaning Outlook will work with GMail)?

cRunchy
3419) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Captain Avatar (Message 64597)
Posted 14 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> Well I was thinking about a more Windows XP'ish look like with what you see
> when you open up "My Computer."

As a resource for ideas or themes I like DeviantART.. Some totally stunning work ...

Their icon directory is at: Browse DeviantART Icons

I like the GANT set but thats probably too dark..

cRunchy
3420) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What is your fav film of all time? (Message 64582)
Posted 14 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> > In fact I quite like most 'organic' sci-fi.

> I liked Lexx, but the "organic" show I admired most was Farscape. This is the
> first series I'd ever seen that very obviously tried really hard to break the
> Star Trek "they look like us, they act like us" mold in their treatment of
> aliens. Of course they don't always succeed in this measure, but still the
> efforts were quite novel.

http://www.farscape.com

There was quite a nice Kate Bush song floating around the internet overlayed on some farscape video clips some time ago.

Farscape is quite an emotional sci-fi in some ways. I fell in love with the Chiana character.

cRunchy
3421) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What is your fav film of all time? (Message 64569)
Posted 14 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> Silent Running.

Hewey and Dewey..
3422) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beginning of things to come RE: Troll-bait (Message 64561)
Posted 14 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> > Now I thought you were a member of that crowd :o))))
> > cRunchy

> Some have accused me of being the crowd. :)

Makes a bottle of Vodka and staying in to wash your hair sound like a party...

cRunchy
3423) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beginning of things to come RE: Troll-bait (Message 64557)
Posted 14 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> I thought that according to the Number Crunching crowd the moderators here
> were members if the infamous Cafe Gang.

Now I thought you were a member of that crowd :o))))

cRunchy
3424) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beginning of things to come RE: Troll-bait (Message 64555)
Posted 14 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> I question a persons motives when they want to be a moderator now but did
> nothing when the spammers/trolls were afoot and left it to other people to
> step into the fray and handle things for them.
>
> For the anticipated responses of "I was just ignoring them." my response to
> that is "Then you can continue to ignore them."

I don't really as it is often a learning experience to handle conflict... some people feel powerless... others just don't know how to go about it... some just have more important things to do...

I don't expect anyone who first takes on a role to be good at it. I would prefer someone who has a yearning to learn and a willingness to work at it.

Moderation is not just about conflict though. It is also about stewardship and sometimes it is even just the menial task of tidying up.

I suspect that even those who have not been involved in the affrey either by getting stuck in or by making their name known through public shunning have some skills to add to what I hope will be a 'team' effort.

Bottom line for me is that out of everyone on this forum MR. HR and the destructive crew probably have the greatest experience at fighting in conflict but I won't be voting for them :)

cRunchy
3425) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What is your fav film of all time? (Message 64543)
Posted 14 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> Mine has to be Alien.I think it's a classic and is better than most modern
> horror, sci fi films as now they tend to be all effects and not very good
> storylines.

Gosh. I love Alien and can watch the series again and again.

One of the things I find about some sci-fi is that at the time it comes out it is great but because the focus is on showing technology as that cultural moment believes it will be in the future it tends to fail when some time has past.

Alien focusses its visuals on the 'industrial' as well as the 'flesh' which makes us feel our mortality darkly but has no real boundaries on which to pin a sense of age or time.

In fact I quite like most 'organic' sci-fi.

I actually like Lexx.

For horrors I quite liked Deathwatch (2002) about the WW1 soldiers lost in the trenches.

For animated I loved the movie Kaena (The Prophecy) which is not technically a brilliant animation but was a nice story.

cRunchy
3426) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beginning of things to come RE: Troll-bait (Message 64525)
Posted 14 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> > > ......I think the mods should be
> > > unknown and annonymous.

> I'm participating in some moderated boards, and all the moderators are visible
> and active in the boards.
> This works out pretty well.

I prefer to know who moderators are because after all their greatest allies are the people they serve and you can't serve well from behind a veil.

One thing I have learnt from being involved in the community though is that the best defence from moderators being abused or them finding it hard to follow whatever agreed guidlines because of their own views on any person or topic is a good strong moderator team and backup from both above, peers and below.

I guess at the end of the day it needs to be up to the individual as to how comfortable they feel at sharing their own personal information though I think just knowing a persons city, country, nom-de-plume and interests is not too invasive.

I like it when moderators can get involved and just post as members where not conflicting with their duties but that is where time served, personality and trust all play their part. Its a big responsibility and one I commend for those who are willing to take it on and do it well.

In all situations where someone takes on the difficult and often thankless task of applying the rules it is a good idea for those who moderate to set their own internal guidlines as to how far any attack on them or their dutties is allowed to go. Any attack on one is an attack on all.

I think even though these moderating measures are now being talked about due to the rather unpleasant activities of the few I do really appreciate that we can have a voice in how the forum develops... That in itself is quite unique as most forums are created in the opposite direction with a moderator existing first.

I suspect though that except for dealing every now and again with the odd destructive individual that most moderation duties will be a matter of stewardship rather than control or closure.

cRunchy
3427) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Captain Avatar (Message 64475)
Posted 14 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> I feel it is a way I can contribute to our community in a positive manner.

The avatars you create have quite a distinctive style that are pleasing to the eye and have great composition but I think you have a great eye for the humerous in images in general..

I just love this guy:



Is your background in art or photography?

cRunchy
3428) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beginning of things to come RE: Troll-bait (Message 64469)
Posted 14 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Thank you Rom, SETI and Berkeley people for all this effort and work.

I'll add my support as best I can as a posting member and think its great that there are other involved members who are willing to do that bit more by offering to help moderate.

That's the kind of community spirit I came here for and makes shared computing and SETI such a great idea for me.

cRunchy
3429) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Practicing what we preach -- or doing as I say I will (Message 64432)
Posted 14 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Actually I'm quite humbled as Rachel is showing a third (or first) way.. by creating and keeping up top interesting and inviting topics that have nothing to do with trolls...

now that is the kind of positive action that grabs my interest though I still reserve the right to annoy the trolls until their heads explode :).

cRunchy
3430) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Another year over (Message 64428)
Posted 14 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> Cannot believe it is 2005 already.Have you any goals or aims you are going to
> try and reach this year?What are you hoping to achieve?What do you hope will
> change this year too?For better or worse?

I promised myself to tidy my house more, eat more chocolate and do some sculpture for my garden.

Well so far the chocy eating is going well and I scrounged (got) some pieces of tree trunk ready for sculpting when the weather gets warmer outside...

I think I will have to resolve and tidy my house in 2006 though :(

cRunchy

PS. I like your approach Rachel.. Keeping the friendly and interesting community topics on top...
3431) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Favourite drink? (Message 64404)
Posted 14 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> What is your fav drink?Mine is chilled white wine.

Now I'm going to sound really boring and say chilled tap water or iced coke though I also love homemade Rose flavoured milk shake or ElderFlower cordial or Champagne.

My most often drunk is fresh coffee which is so good for you...

Or did you mean alcoholic drinks :)

cRunchy
3432) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Practicing what we preach -- or doing as I say I will (Message 64383)
Posted 14 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I bet you know what I'm going to say :)

> As long as one of the regulars on this forum respond to his dribble you are
> enabling him.

What happens when a newbie reads his messages and gets caught in the trap? Do we then post to these threads or all keep our resolve and let the newbies learn the hard way or worse leave without the benefit of our knowledge..

The post subjects are designed to capture the unwitting...

It could be argued that destroying the continuity of those threads is also a valid method... though I do agree we should not get caught up in what are after all spoof subjects aimed at attacking and abusing us rather than enhancing the community at large.

> Lets practice what we preach folks.. Ignore him completely.. Words that nobody
> but the dribblers see can not hurt you...

OK but if I practice what I preach then the "we" in that is really your (and others) approach...

> If you truly need someone to rant on then my shoulders are broad enough to
> handle it... .....

Now that's an offer... but I like the idea of annoying the trolling attention seeking misionaries more.... though I also reserve the right to ignore anything aimed at being damaging where ignoring it has a benefit.

cRunchy
3433) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Forum Page Error? (Message 64347)
Posted 14 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> I was told that it happens when a "word" or string in one of the posts is
> wider than the page and there are no spaces or returns. Like the long string
> of "?????" that Mr. HR put in one of his posts. When his post is hidden, the
> rest of the thread is OK, but when the offending post is un-hidden, the whole
> thread acts the way you have described.


I think you're right. It was in the thread that includes one of HR's long question marks:

http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=7946#63748

cRunchy
3434) Message boards : Cafe SETI : More BOINC for your buck.. V4.14 (Message 64318)
Posted 14 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

As reported over in the crunching forum there is a new version of BOINC out:

> ...Well, a new core client, v4.14, is now
> available for all platforms except Mac....

BOINC Download Page

Backed up my boinc folder and just upgraded to 4.14 on XP.. Works fine here and was back crunching within 3 minutes of download.

cRunchy
3435) Message boards : Number crunching : New core client for Einstein (Message 64310)
Posted 14 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

> Well, a new core client, v4.14, is now available for all platforms except Mac.
> Use at own risk.
> download-page

Backed up boinc and just upgraded to 4.14 on XP.. Works fine here and back crunching within 3 minutes of download.

cRunchy
3436) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Forum Page Error? (Message 64281)
Posted 13 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Anyone else getting posts wrapping too wide for the browser?

cRunchy
3437) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETI the Song - Dr. Love's Hommage to SETI@home (Message 64258)
Posted 13 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> I got inspired by this project, so i made a nerdy song called "SETI", maybe
> you'll like it. It is found there:
> http://www.mp3.de/musik/genre/band/030304/254373/3
> Keep on searching for "Them"!
> Dr. Love, Germany

I love it. Kind of Mod Tracker stuff.

Do they ever get to find intelligent life on earth or is that the next song?

Would be kind of groovey if SETI@Home people could listen to this as its a great compliment to inspire people to be creative...

cRunchy
3438) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Favourite time of year? (Message 64243)
Posted 13 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:



These are Captain's personal nukes... Can I press the button ;)

cRunchy
3439) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It all started like this..... (Message 64111)
Posted 13 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine,
> public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what
> have the Romans ever done for us?

They brought us 'mint' and instigated payment in 'mustard'... which I think is still the primary payment case for the workers of the UK :)


cRunchy
3440) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Favourite time of year? (Message 64102)
Posted 13 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> Colour, what's that, always grey here...

Too true..

do you live in that light house? cool if you do..


cRunchy
In the Bahamas of the Midlands. Sunny Brum.
3441) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Favourite time of year? (Message 64075)
Posted 13 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> I hate this time of year.Jan and Feb get me down.I miss summer so much and my
> garden.

Summer is the best here in the UK but I do like the light in autumn and spring in the afternoon where the shadows fall long and the sky is clear. The air always seems a little fresher and the streets aren't filled with yobs, marjuana heads and boozers..

But still there is nothing like that comfortable feeling you get on a summer afternoon and all is well with your bit of the world at least.


cRunchy
3442) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Welcome to our new Seti and Berkley moderator ;) (Message 64004)
Posted 13 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
You'll forgive me if I think that MR. HumanRights has now been employed as our new moderator but perhaps Seti and Berkley ought to tell us when they have employed a new moderator that asks questions that only moderators normally do.

It would have been nice to know.

So just to say welcome to our new moderator called 'MR. HumanRights'.. I hope your employment by Berkley is as prestigious as your general welcome by the community on this forum has been so far.

cRunchy
3443) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc current cost ! (Message 63237)
Posted 12 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> "but it is a nice arguement for upgrading our systems to faster ones "

> Yea, but then what do you do with the old 'puter? Before you know it you will
> have it setup and running BOINC also.....I know, been there, done that. Now
> I'm running 8 with two of them dual cpu boxes, so in all I'm running 10 cpu's.
> Of course in the winter they are the only heat I need in the comuter room so
> not all is totally lost.
>
Jim

LOL. Spread em out and call them central heating. Probably more efficient..

This all reminds me actually. I need to get a new fan. Sounds like the bearings are a little off and makes a racket whenever it changes speed.... Mind you the extra friction adds to the heat.


cRunchy
3444) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc current cost ! (Message 63236)
Posted 12 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> ........by the way im 51 so its not like im some
> thirty year old syill living with his
> mommy.

Ever heard of the term: "Me Thinks He Protests Too Much"??

Now did we say anything?

And even if you are 51 years old and still living with your mummy thats OK because we all still live with ours ;)


cRunchy

3445) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Captain Avatar (Message 63215)
Posted 12 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

> Prove this is really you... I think you are just trying to make us beleive you
> are Timmy the Great!!!

If he starts designing avatars with horns and pitch forks then I'll really worry :)

cRunchy
3446) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc current cost ! (Message 63212)
Posted 12 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
One thing that interests me is whether there is a difference between speed of proccessors and data crunched relative to consumption.

Though a faster processor may require more power it is not necessarily a simple linear equation given reduced voltage levels and tighter internal circuitry.

I guess to the owner it will make little ecconomic sense to upgrade for some non-linear saving on speed of crunching verses power.... but it is a nice arguement for upgrading our systems to faster ones given the potential savings over the life of SETI and the life of heating of the environment.

LOL. More technology means less polution... Now just to convince my green friends.

cRunchy
3447) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc current cost ! (Message 63209)
Posted 12 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> Surely the amount used by Seti is the difference between these, ie .1A
> ???????

I guess it would seem that way but these figures need to also take into account the down time of a PC that is not running SETI... That is of course if you are not a P2P or torrent junkie :)

In this senario an 8 hour a day work horse is now running 24/7 so adding 8x 0.1 + 16 x 0.3.. ....

in my own case my home living room is actually one or two degrees warmer than any other room where there has been no general heating on when I get up first thing in the morning.

This is not actually a bad thing as the walls and ceiling retain heat and re radiate.

Its pretty mild these years here in the UK winter so I haven't had to have any heating on at all this season so I can thank SETI for keeping me warm... Oh that and global warming that I am now contributing just that little extra to these days :)

cRunchy
Pete
3448) Message boards : Number crunching : PC Up Time and Other Software? (Message 62357)
Posted 8 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

I found out an in house way of getting uptime info from XP.

In Start Menu _ RUN: CMD then SYSTEMINFO

That gives you a host of info plus UpTime details.

You can create a batch file to dump this to a text file in the following manner:

systeminfo.exe >systeminfo.txt


Pete

3449) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Test (Message 62240)
Posted 8 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
CR,
<B>
> Strange! When I tried to show Ruud Postma the image HTML in my
> post it wouldn't show up, couldn't see it so I had to email
> it to him.
> Don't think I wrote it any different then you and it definatly
> worked properly because I tested it before I emailed it to him.
</B>
That buged me for a while so I wrote the URL in AOL Press and had a look at how it achieves showing of 'reserved' characters. Basically it uses the html character code.

My Image:



The only problem with this is that if you respond to such a post the server parses the string back into standard visible code and therefor will activate the code rather than "quote" it.. That may be your problem.

Simple replace the pointy brackets at either end if the code using those highlighted in red in the image above.

<B>
Basically:

< = & l t ; (Remove Spaces)
> = & g t ; (Remove Spaces)
</B>
It should be a similar process for most other common HTML code.

Anyway try it.

Hope That Helps.

cRunchy
Pete
3450) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Test (Message 62007)
Posted 8 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> How do you goys get your stats to show in the post ???
>
> (Newbie question)

Good question... I'm trying mine now.

EDITED...
-------

My stats image is from http://boinc.mundayweb.com as Celtic Wolf points out.

Once you have gone there and set yourself up an image copy the URL they give you and paste it into your post or signature box like such:

MY Image URL:

http://boinc.mundayweb.com/one/stats.php?userID=215


Full HTML Code:

<IMG SRC="http://boinc.mundayweb.com/one/stats.php?userID=215">

Just use the full code.

Result:




Pete
3451) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Test (Message 61992)
Posted 8 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Testing.

Mmm. trying to figure out how all you bods get links to show proper in your posts...

www.google.com

Googly
--- EDIT.
Cool.. Feel a little cleverer now :)

Googly
http://www.google.com

Pete

---

Adding test for BB code

[url=http://www.google.com]Googly[/url]

Googly

------

Adding html tests:
----



one
two


three
four


<P ALIGN="Center">
centre
<P>
<FONT>colour</FONT>

header

<P>
<UL>
<LI>
list 1
<LI>
list 2
<LI>
list 3
<LI>
</UL>
<P>
3452) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Test (Message 61990)
Posted 8 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Testing.

Mmm. trying to figure out how all you bods get links to show proper in your posts...

www.google.com

Googly


3453) Message boards : Number crunching : PC Up Time and Other Software? (Message 61974)
Posted 8 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> I use a program called CoolMon. It's completely customizable and has tons of
> options for display that I don't use. My setup just happens to look like
> this:

> It's really easy to use and setup. http://www.coolmon.org/

Installed and fairly easy (pointy clicky) for me to get up and running. For now this looks like it will give me the basic PC info I'm after.

Cheers

Pete
3454) Message boards : Number crunching : PC Up Time and Other Software? (Message 61972)
Posted 8 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> I use Samurize which is a competive program to Coolmon. I tried both and
> settled with Samurize. They even have a script to read data for Boinc. (do a
> search for Boinc) to find it.

> http://www.samurize.com/modules/news/

> Check out both programs and decide for yourself.

I looked at Samurize ages ago. i used GeoShell for ages. I was just a bit daunted by all the tweaking and setup needed and was worried by the overheads required.

I might revisit it to see how much easier it is to setup now.

Pete
3455) Message boards : Number crunching : PC Up Time and Other Software? (Message 61970)
Posted 8 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> You can use this tool from Microsoft:
> http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/nts/downloads/management/uptime/default.asp

On my standalone XP PC I had a problem with this. I ran CMD and then uptime and got:

"UPTIME was unable to connect to host: \\DESKTOP01"

Where DESKTOP01 is my PC.

Any ideas?

Pete
3456) Message boards : Number crunching : PC Up Time and Other Software? (Message 61933)
Posted 8 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Not exactly a crunching question but where can I view my XP PC's up time (since switched on..)??

Also what other interesting software do people use to enhance their BOINC or SETI usage or experience? (Does not have to be project linked but just interesting for SETI BOINC users!)

Any low resource PC monitoring software that keeps a real(ish) time log (EG. text file) of basic information such as up time, CPU usage and so on?

Also I have quite a nice compact star chart program. How can tell which bit of sky my WU is pointing at and extract basic co-ordinates to feed into the start map? (remember I'm a complete newbie at this :)

Pete

(Edited to remove code from subject line.)
3457) Message boards : Politics : Religious tolerance (Message 61603)
Posted 7 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> What does "heathen" mean ?
> I guess some peaple can't take answers that they do not want to hear, Even
> when answering a quetion that was asked.

Heathen as well as pagan have been given a negative conotation... both actually mean someone from outside city and state culture.

Heathen literally means "heath dweller" but has come to be linked with conotations of "old world", "uncivilised" or some how "dark" and "mysterious"..

In this sense it is not too much unlike the way "religion" in general is seen by the ever increasingly industrialised world.

Now was the thread about "Religious Tollerance" or about "being religiously tollerant" ;)

Pete

PS. I did write a lot more than this but the text box seems to have a limit on post size so I re-edited it down a lot :)
3458) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [4] - CLOSED (Message 61530)
Posted 7 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> .....A team of researchers briefly removed the mummy of King
> Tutankhamun from its tomb yesterday and laid bare the bones for a CT scan that
> could solve an enduring mystery: Was it murder or natural causes that killed
> Egypt's boy Pharaoh 3,000 years ago?

Wasn't he the son of the one god pharaoh who's beliefs found themselves co-opted into the early burgonings of the Judaic beliefs (and the Islam)?


Pete
3459) Message boards : Number crunching : For those that care about documentation ... (Message 61526)
Posted 7 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Looks like a great idea.

Like the powder grey blue.

You sure like working :)

Much appreciated.

Pete

3460) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [4] - CLOSED (Message 61168)
Posted 6 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
OK. This is my rambly bit on the nature of religion, community and science and something to do with our concept of 'faith' being coloured by its long relationship with religion... Or something like that :)
+++++++++++++++++++++++

I sometimes feel religion has a mixed message. Whilst it on one hand promotes community it does define people as us and them. I suspect that religion (not spirituality) grew up with the 'nation state' to become an embodiment of belonging to a sure group.

Even devil worship (whatever that old victoriana hammer house notion means) has a sense of community and doing 'right' by it. Not even 'thuggery' could exist if there was not a notion of community.

I believe that (unlike the Christian notion) people are born not as empty vessels or in the negative or sin but are born with the wiring that leads them "towards" community. It is suprising how many community members actually embrace the outsider (refugee for example) where there is no seen or promoted threat. In many ways we enjoy difference when we feel safe and secure.

Language (not just spoken) for me, not the soul, is the process and tool of conscious thinking that makes us human and like language I believe we have the need or hunger as well as the basic structure into which to fit learning that includes further sociability.

For me religion, is an inevitable part of advanced development that is part of the psychic ('mind' not future seeing) switch into the mentality needed for nation states.

Religion models for us (if we ignore the culturally specific trapings) something of our own development not only on a personal level but also on a social level. Virtually all religions (and hinduism and budhism are easiest to see) have some description of a process towards an end. Not too unlike psychoanalytical theories.

There are 'epochs' and 'paradigms' in which, as we do in real life, go from one state, through a period of change and turmoil, onto another yet unseen state of realisation.

Just as we as children learn and learn until we can no longer support our old ways of thinking or the knowledge set.. It is then turmoil and for 'some' painful (remember those teen years).. Later as we arrive at our new adult state we look and wonder how we could have thought or have been the very creatures we were once.

Often though 'religion' is allegorical and like any good story must end. Even reincarnation theories end. Mostly they end in some 'ecstatic' transformation probably very akin to taking drugs, a moment of oneness or transcending all boundaries.

For me 'religion' was the once perfect tool to describe a world both internal and external. Today I suspect as we have (or feel we have) new assurances and better security (personal and social) within our technologically supported world it only makes sense that people wish less and less for the old way.. Just as we find it hard to envision what it was to think as we did when younger we find it hard to understand the pre paradigm allegory of 'religion'.

I do not think however that 'science' is a religion. Religion is not the only aspect of life to require "faith" and I think it is a long standing mindset that "religion" and "faith" are linked naturally... Just like I do not think that to put a wheel on a bike does not make it a car..

Community requires faith. Being conned by a con man or woman is a perfect example of faith in other humans.

If we say that religion = faith and therefore science = faith we might as well say 'religion' = 'science'.. (and not "science = "religion".. Why is it that we presume science to be a modern invention?.. It may be older that religion!!)

To live requires faith. To pick my nose requires the faith that I will as I have done before not poke my eye instead.

For me people mix up faith with the idea of 'trust'.. Faith is often described almost as part of that allegory. It is the jump into the dark. that paradigm after the epoch. A surrender to whatever may come. It is precisly what is required to go from non believer to believer. From worldly (animal or human) to ecstatic (conscious being or spirit).

That is why so many religions (like christianity) require 'faith' to be saved or enjoined to a higher place.

"Trust" however has the property of assurance through knowledge though it can also be given in ignorance.

The concept of 'faith' has for millenia been so closely linked with religion it is almost contaminated in the way we percieve it. (Like we call a 'vacuum cleaner' a "Hoover".. (in the UK)..)

I do not believe that science requires any faith. We simply set a goal based upon what we currently know and head off into the blue yonder ready to find out if what we thought we knew was correct or whether it will change. Thats the basis of a hypothesis. A starting point we wish to get away from because we desire something more.

Unlike religion (although I know history has not always been to kind to scientists) we don't need to pervert what we discover on the way to fit an ancient script. We can simply change our perspective and recalculate our knowledge.

The only faith that requires is basically of ourselves. To trust that we have the capacity to strive, take chances, change, reach out, motivate... These and faith, seem to me, better attributed to the human quality rather than to science which after all is just a basic set of tools and processes and not the knowledge in itself.


Pete

Get Out Clause: I realise there are 'some' who DO treat science as a religion and vice versa...



3461) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC Folders (Message 60595)
Posted 5 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> > I suspect "English" is native to the app
> > so maybe if others use a none english
> > language the folder CVS is used? don't know.
> > Pete

> CVS: that is a folder for CVS-Files
> CVS is not a "language"

And they say ignorance is bliss.. In my case I must be in heaven :)

Go on. Tell me. What's a CVS?


Pete
3462) Message boards : Number crunching : No schedulers responded (Message 60594)
Posted 5 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
After a long period (the optimistic hour) where the server did not respond I grabed 2 WUs today but the server is again down or not responding. I'm in the UK if that makes a difference.

What I did wonder was whether BOINC projects could force a client to cache extra work prior to any server upgrades or expected outage?

In my case I am crunching one or two WUs cached between server down \ up loads.

This is not optimising the space I have allocated as my SETI BOINC folder stands around 6 MB on average where as I have offered between 100 and 300MB.

Whilst I could change my server updates from 0.1 to 4 or so days I prefer to be available to SETI on a more frequent basis.

I wonder if the SETI server could be more pre-emptive or flexible and use all of the parameters I have accepted which includes HD space available?

Perhaps this is already the case? I don't know..

I do realise I could just decrease the frequency, do an update and then increase the frequency but there is in theory lots of slack space out there where the more frequent updating crunchers are concerned..

I also realise I have lots to learn and may be barking up the wrong tree as I still haven't got my head round the process used by the software.

Are the downloading of data and uploading of results done within the same time slot (for dialup = connection)?

Pete
3463) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC Folders (Message 60433)
Posted 4 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> Why not CVS? I had delete it and all is running fine.

I wondered this as it is empty but sometimes some software does not like looking for a folder that is no longer there when it may require it in the future.

I suspect "English" is native to the app so maybe if others use a none english language the folder CVS is used? don't know.

Pete
3464) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC Folders (Message 60430)
Posted 4 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

> Sure there is only the language-File for the xx country
> Don't delete : projects; (CVS); slots !!!

Cool.

So I can blame you if it blows up :))

In case anyone else wants to reduce wasted folders, I have deleted (moved to temporary folder) the following folders:

"bg", "ca", "cs", "da", "de",
"el", "eo", "es", "et", "fi",
"fr", "gd", "gl", "he", "hr",
"it", "ja", "ko", "nl", "no",
"pl", "pt", "pt-br", "ru",
"sk", "sr", "sv", "th",
"tr", "zh-cn"

(Leaving the folders: "CVS", "misc", "projects", "slots" intact.)

I am using English. Have closed and restarted BOINC after the delete (move) and have seen no problems at all.

Pete
3465) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Do you guys take part in other projects ? (Message 60393)
Posted 4 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

> A person/company may not make money directly from BOINC but they may be able
> to use the public data publised by these projects to bypass some research they
> would otherwise have to pay for. That in itself could be considered to be
> making money from a not-for-profit project.

This I don't mind at all. If the data is open to all then there is less chance of development being stunted or held back for profits sake.

I do understand that the very nature of bussiness means that only certain people or bussinesses will have the finances and motive to use the data in a practical manner and that that by its nature can stunt development but its the "open to all" that interests me if I am going to put my private voluntary effort up for grabs.

I think on the other forums I got the feeling that there was a worry that even with an 'open to all' policy that data may not be immediatly available to all or that it was passed on to someone's idea of "relevant development projects" which could be a covert way of saying "those we select"..

I think I need to do a bit more reading of the individual projects using BOINC. Its not that I think there is any hidden agenda... It's just that where there is massive profit to be made (as there would be with a cure for some cancer for example) I want my tiny bit of effort to count for the greatest benefit to all..

Pete
3466) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC Folders (Message 60373)
Posted 4 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Not exactly a crunching question but can I delete all these superfluous language folders in my BOINC program folder?

EG: "bg, ca, cs..."

Pete
3467) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Do you guys take part in other projects ? (Message 60332)
Posted 4 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
I've been pondering a while about joining a medical or biology project but have this niggling doubt in my head.

On a forum (I don't think related to BOINC) there was some discussion around a medical project where there may have been some occluded (unseen) economic benefits for certain supporting medical companies that provided such things as network backbone.

Now whilst I have no problem with business in general I would be unhappy being duped into feeling the results of any voluntary effort on my part were being siphoned off for the financial gain of a few companies and would not be made public in full.

Not sure whether this is an appropriate topic for this thread or whether a separate thread might be more useful and interesting but I'd appreciate other peoples insights into this question related to BOINC projects.

regards
cRunchy.
Got a New Avatar Pete :)
3468) Message boards : Number crunching : Still Free Avatar Help!! (Message 59951)
Posted 3 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
** L@@k EveryOne **.

I've got an avatar. :)

Touched by Timmy's keen eye and excellent handy work.

Your effort is really appreciated Timmy. Thankyou..

cRunchy
Pete
3469) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Avatar Help! (Message 59948)
Posted 3 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
** L@@k EveryOne **.

I've now got an avatar. Wey Hey :)

Touched by Timmy's keen eye and excellent handy work.

Cool. Thanks Timmy.

cRunchy
Pete

3470) Message boards : Cafe SETI : An open hand to WW (Message 59828)
Posted 3 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

> @ cRunchy
Back @ ya Dogbytes :)

> You haven't been around long enough, nor have you seen the havoc WW has
> created. What you have seen here is but a small sample, and a violent
> reaction of those who have been more exposed to this individual. Yours is a
> voice of reason. However, like taking some middle class person and throwing
> him into a maximum security prison, you'd quickly find out the same rules
> don't apply as they do in civilized society.

I know its pants :( I would actually like to do some rather nasty things to 'trolls' at times but they are all illegal things so can't really express them here..

As to throwing a middle class person into a prison... Well I'm educated working class and have worked in much tougher environments than a prison... Living in one would be a different case though.

As I say I haven't had the privelidge of reading many of WW's posts but I do think on balance WW has made his spots clear (as a Lepard) so in reality no hand of friendship can be given... I mean You or I would not hold out the hand of friendship to a misguided, deluded or person beguiled by evil forces and that is probably how (from WW's own articles) see everyone supporting SETI.

The hard bit is what can we do about such a problem without loosing our own sense of what is right or wrong.

I guess the answer will eventually be a community effort one as it is often harder for any forum's admin or moderators to make such decisions without incurring someones anger for 'censurship.'

If you read me right I am not disagreeing that there is a big problem here... The method to solve is not for newbies like me though... However what I can add is some perspective on WW's motives as gained from his own articles on his website (that crashes Opera webbrowser every time.. dodgy coding?)... Perhaps even that has been said before :)

Besides the middle class put the boot in from the sidelines ;)

cRunchy
Pete
3471) Message boards : Cafe SETI : An open hand to WW (Message 59644)
Posted 3 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
Now as an oldie to the internet but a newbie here I'm not suprised to see the odd spat (problem) or two on any board. Most boards are populated with people who have something to say... sadly there are those who also take the liberty to do this from the relative anonimity of their PC keyboard.

I haven't read much of WW's forum posts but I have read some of his articles and thoughts on life "out there"... Suffice it to say that (from what I have read so far) WW has an opinion that 'aliens' (whatever they are) are either a construct of some earthly power OR are a construct of some spiritual evil force made to beguile us from WW's view of goodness.

I can't really argue against this stuff as I am not a great believer in 'aliens' but I do accept the possibility of life of some kind in the vastness of this universe.

The problem with offering the hand of friendship though is that WW's own admission of being an evangalist disallows him from behaiving in any other way.

WW's key frame of reference lays in the link between his vision of 'aliens' as an evil construct and his desire to evangalise his message... Basically WW can only see anyone involved in SETI as 'deluded' by either wicked powers on earth or evil spiritual powers..

Basically WW's mind is to save all SETI participant from both themselves and their lack of knowledge (as WW sees it) and from the what he believes to be a corrupting force.

For WW I suspect that the "end of days" begins with such explorations as those undertaken by everyone involved in SETI.

I suspect WW feels he is doing 'good' by us. In that respect WW can never stop being WW as his core and fundamental beliefs will not allow him too.... You or I might at a drastic moment jump into a burning house to save a child at risk to ourselves... WW may be trying to save us from burning hell as he sees it...

For some the universe is vast and wonderous for others it is small and full of fear and danger.

I can respect anyone who has a belief and is willing to live it. If this is WW's reality fine. I shall continue to believe in mine and just skip over the oddities of anothers.. Perhaps that is the best policy all round?

Just a view from these newbie eyes of mine but as with all things I still have lots to learn.

Pete

Pete
3472) Message boards : Number crunching : New BOINC user. (Message 58914)
Posted 1 Jan 2005 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

> Here's my problem:-
> My PC has the following specs - Celeron 2.4GHz processor,
> 112MB RAM, 40GB hard
> disk, XP Home + SP2 installed.
> The last work unit I completed took 10 hours 27 mins.

I think you've got all the good advice going on how to speed up your PC. If you are feeling a little adveturous though you could also try tweaking the 'services' XP is running.

I found after switching off, disabling or setting to manual a host of these my machines general functionability rose about 25+%... There are plenty of googled sites that give 'tweak disable xp services' advice...

Some of these services have already been mentioned but there are a load more that you may never need like 'universal plug n play' (Not the same as plug and play hardware..) for example, that can safely be switched to manual start or even disabled...

Worth a look and these changes can also make your machine more secure.

I get WUs done in 4 to 5 hours on a 1.3gig 500MB machine which from what I am still learning sounds about right..

Pete
3473) Message boards : Number crunching : Newbie: Is my contribution worthwhile? (Message 58729)
Posted 31 Dec 2004 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
> Pete,
> > Any thoughts?

> Lots! As a matter of fact, I have 310 pages of thoughts about BOINC and how to
> BOINC, humor, opinion. rumor, fact, lies, statistics, on refunds, all sales
> final, oops, I got carried away ...

Yes. Lots of reading.. I can feel a Coffee & dogNuts night in front of the PC soon... Not tonight though as its 'Wishing You All Happy New Year' night tonight :)

> Look in the settings for your account, there should be a setting for contact
> the server every xx days. set that from 2 to 4 and BOINC does the rest. You
> will be getting several WU downloaded once connections are established to the
> schedulars.

Mm. I set mine for 0.1 days... Can anyone tell me what the accepted numbers \ parameters are for this setting. (i.e. Integers only???)


> If you use the handy link below you will get access to the documentation that
> i have written, which includes each and every web page on the sites. FAQs,
> glossary of terms and index, owner's manuals for the software, etc.

Thanks for that... And here was me thinking the PC would do all the work.. Now where's those doughnuts....


cRunchy
Pete
3474) Message boards : Number crunching : Newbie: Is my contribution worthwhile? (Message 58572)
Posted 31 Dec 2004 by Profile cRunchy
Post:
OK.

Thankyou folks. A much more upbeat and positive set of replies than this newbie expected :) (I just wanted it to work and munch ..NOW.. :o)))

Now I can get on with learning how to optimise my crunching with my particular setup.

'NeoAmsterdam' mentioned being able to 'cache' several WUs at once... Anyone tell me how that is achieved?... or for that matter what the best settings are for my setup? I'm using:

* AMD (Duron) 1.3gig
* 512MB RAM
* XP Pro SP1(ish)
* Broadband 1meg\128kb
* HD Space Available for this project: 100 to 300MB
* Always on Home PC. Around 20% heavy load per day.

At present I am completing WUs in around 4 to 5 hours. Seems though to wait for a while to upload these? Looks like there is only an average of 6 meg being used in the cache at the moment?

I don't use the graphics component and am happy for the BOINC to run as a low priority thread all the time.

Any thoughts?

Regards
cRunchy
Pete
3475) Message boards : Number crunching : Newbie: Is my contribution worthwhile? (Message 58400)
Posted 30 Dec 2004 by Profile cRunchy
Post:

Hi,

Today after crunching consistently for the past few days I get a no WUs available (though I think I see 500k WUs waiting on the server?)...

Now either this is a software \ server problem or my effort is not needed. In otherwords there is too little data requiring processing or there are already enough people \ machine power attached to meet need.

Any Ideas?

cRunchy
Pete


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