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101) 疑难解答 : Windows : Install Error Boinc 5.8.16- "Internal Error 2718." (消息 545643)
发表于:13 Apr 2007 作者: Wander Saito
Post:
I have forwarded a link to development for a look.


According to the MSDN library:

Windows Installer Error Messages

Windows Installer errors have an error code of 1000 or greater. The error codes numbered 1000 to 1999 are ship errors and must be authored into the Error table. The error codes numbered greater than 2000 are internal errors and do not have authored strings, but these can occur if the installation package has been incorrectly authored. For a list of reserved error codes, see Error table.

2718 Missing package name for product code '[2]'.


Regards,
Wander
102) 留言板 : Number crunching : WU outcome - "client detached" (消息 545588)
发表于:13 Apr 2007 作者: Wander Saito
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The "file not found" problem is a known issue on the s@h servers.

I'm guessing that the client detach may well be for exceeding the maximum number of retries for the lost file.

Matt @ s@h has already been alerted to this and has already made the fix.

Are you seeing this for WUs that have been in your cache for a few hours or a day or so? If so, they'll get junked and then Boinc will download current WUs.


Happy crunchin',
Martin


That's good and stuff, but what I am supposed to do with my computers that already detached and re-attached themselves? Reset project? As far as I can see, the results are not being reported anywhere.


Yes, the "File Not Found" problem affected a lot of users here, but since it was a server-side problem, caused by a bad script which removed some WU files, I don't think there is a relation between that problem and this detach problem. AFAIK, the detach is a function (or command) started at the client side (at least I never heard about a forced detach started by the scheduler).

Martin's statements are intended to try to help you find what exactly the problem is and eventually work up a solution. That's all we can try to do.

@John,

Clearly, I have a common issue. But it is the client WUs that are detaching, not the BOINC Manager detaching and reattaching to the project.


I'm not sure I understood what you meant by "client WU". BOINC Manager and the BOINC daemon (both are part of the BOINC Client) are the ones responsible for attaching/detaching from projects and they control the execution of the SAH science app (SAH Enhanced 5.15). When the client receives the command to detach a project, it cancels all pending WUs with that CLIENT_DETACH status, report them back to the project then severs the connection.

By the log extract you posted, I believe you scanned it for any text referring to detach, so it seems that there is no evidence that your client ever commanded a detach. Are you connected to any Account Manager site like BAM? If you are, and for some reason this host is not attached to the project in the Account Manager site, when the BOINC Manager syncs with the site, it would automatically detach, but that wouldn't explain how it managed to reconnect by itself.

I don't know, maybe there is some process running in the servers canceling out some WUs and putting that result :)

Regards,
Wander

EDIT: Martin has a point. Let them crunch for a while and see if happens again
103) 留言板 : Number crunching : Upload problems. (消息 545513)
发表于:13 Apr 2007 作者: Wander Saito
Post:
It would appear that uploading is not the only problem.

I noted this morning that the Knights..., BoincStats, Combined Stats, etc. have not updated their result credit totals since 4/10. I've accrued nearly 5000 credits since their last update, and after three days, the rankings are completely inaccurate (or more-so now than normal).

I have also experienced some downloading problems over the past week. Some of these downloads continually retried for up to 2 days, before I finally aborted them. Once the problem downloads were aborted however, the project managed to kick off new download requests which were successful. I had to abort about a half-dozen jobs on two different computers between 4/7 and 4/11.

In the past 24 hours, uploading and downloading problems seem to have been resolved, but I can't help wondering if these problems with Kryten might also (still) be creating the problems noted with the stat aggregation folks.(?)


Hi Gary,

For the last couple of days, SAH has not delivered the XML files needed by the stat sites to update their data, so all SAH users in all stat sites has been affected. But don't worry, your credits are being accumulated normally and when they resume producing the file, your stats will be updated.

About the DL problem, Matt fixed this problem yesterday and AFAIK everything is back to normal.

For further details in both subjects, please check the Technical News forum. HTH.

Regards,
Wander
104) 留言板 : Number crunching : WU outcome - "client detached" (消息 545481)
发表于:13 Apr 2007 作者: Wander Saito
Post:
Hi John,

According to the information on this page, for some reason your client detached/reattached from the project. Have you checked your Messages queue? There maybe some valuable information there. Check the stdoutdae.txt and stdoutgui.txt files in your BOINC directory as well. HTH,

Regards,
Wander
105) 疑难解答 : Windows : black screen (消息 545338)
发表于:13 Apr 2007 作者: Wander Saito
Post:
Hi,

I Have a slight problem running the screensaver graphics on my new laptop (Sony Vaio VGN-FE41Z, GeForce 7600, Direct X V10.0, Vista Home Premium). If Password on resume is selected then graphics won't run. If it is deselected graphics are OK !!!! Any comments on this one???


Hi Steve,

As I said before, this is known to happen in some systems, but I really don't know why. I'll try to raise this issue in the Beta project, and if anybody has further information on this, please let us know.

Regards,
Wander


Just so you know, I tested the password in my Beta cruncher (P4 2.66 GHz, 512MB RAM, nVidia GeForce 5200, WinXP Pro SP2, BOINC 5.8.15) and the graphics worked just fine, but I'll be posting a thread in the Beta project asking if anyone experienced this problem, OK?

Regards,
Wander
106) 留言板 : Number crunching : Seti@home working ALL the time? (消息 545272)
发表于:13 Apr 2007 作者: Wander Saito
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I have it set to run based on preffs... its still running all the time. Sucking up 100% of my CPU cycles. Not cool.

It will do, by design.

<snip>

And computers are designed to be able to run at 100% 24/7 without problem.

HTH,

Happy crunchin',
Martin


Hi Jerry,

Martin is right in pointing out that there is no harm in running your computer at 100%, 24/7, assuming it is properly maintained. Some IT professionals even use BOINC/SAH to test new computers for bad chips.

However, if you wish, you can set it to only do work when idle and/or limit the usage of your CPU. You can set both parameters at your General Preferences page.

Please note that if you decide to use the CPU usage feature, when crunching, your computer will still use 100% CPU, but it will try to balance the amount of time it will crunch to match the percentage you defined. After setting and saving your preferences, don't forget to select the SAH project in the Projects tab in your BOINC manager and hit the Update button so the changes are updated in your computer.

Regards,
Wander
107) 留言板 : Number crunching : Closed (消息 545262)
发表于:13 Apr 2007 作者: Wander Saito
Post:
Ok, new issue (OK, old issue, new instance).

Has the validation process gone belly up again?


Hi Labbie,

Please read Matt's post at the Tech News forum: Double Oopsie (Apr 12 2007).

Regards,
Wander
108) 疑难解答 : Windows : Missing Credits (消息 545258)
发表于:13 Apr 2007 作者: Wander Saito
Post:
Hi Les,

Have you checked the projects folder for the WU files? If something happened, maybe they're still sitting in your HD. In any case, JM7's suggestion is a good one, but without knowing the circumstances of the bug, monitoring a computer as fast as yours its a full time job.

You could disable BOINC's network access and only enable it when you're there monitoring its activities. Assuming that you have a big enough WU cache, its doable.

About version 5.8.14, that was an alpha release that had some bugs. I'm currently using the previous recommended version, 5.8.15, w/o any problems. If you're going to change your client's version I suggest using that one.

Regards,
Wander
109) 留言板 : Technical News : Double Oopsie (Apr 12 2007) (消息 545243)
发表于:13 Apr 2007 作者: Wander Saito
Post:
No harm done. It's good to know that the project is being managed by people humble enough to recognize (and sometimes make fun of) their own mistakes. Thanks for your efforts, Matt.

Regards,
Wander

EDIT: One other thing, I noticed that some WUs were canceled out due to excess of errors, in this case, download errors. Some errors were raised by the client while others were aborted by users (like me). Maybe you guys could reset them in order to send out this data again.
110) 疑难解答 : Windows : black screen (消息 545129)
发表于:12 Apr 2007 作者: Wander Saito
Post:
Hi,

I Have a slight problem running the screensaver graphics on my new laptop (Sony Vaio VGN-FE41Z, GeForce 7600, Direct X V10.0, Vista Home Premium). If Password on resume is selected then graphics won't run. If it is deselected graphics are OK !!!! Any comments on this one???


Hi Steve,

As I said before, this is known to happen in some systems, but I really don't know why. I'll try to raise this issue in the Beta project, and if anybody has further information on this, please let us know.

Regards,
Wander
111) 疑难解答 : Windows : Missing Credits (消息 545125)
发表于:12 Apr 2007 作者: Wander Saito
Post:
Hi Les,

I believe you're referring to WUs sent to you around Apr 1st right? This is going to sound a little strange but I assure you this no April's fools joke: ghost WUs. Let me explain. Sometimes the servers assign WUs to your host but they fail to actually send them to your computer.

I don't recall ever seeing so many of them packed together, but I suppose it could happen. Other explanations: maybe you managed to return those WUs but the servers failed to acknowledge them properly, or maybe some problem/accident/program in your computer caused BOINC to trash a whole bunch of WUs. For example, I see you're using Windows Vista. Since this host exists in SAH since 2006, I'm assuming that you upgraded it recently. Is it possible that in the upgrade process you lost those WUs?

In any event, those WUs will expire eventually and other computers will crunch them if needed. About the errors you're getting in 5.8.16, I haven't heard anything about it so far. Can you be a little more specific? HTH,

Regards,
Wander
112) 留言板 : Technical News : Oh Yeah.. That.. (Mar 28 2007) (消息 544630)
发表于:12 Apr 2007 作者: Wander Saito
Post:
Back on the server name issue....
Were not the devices used in Dune to attract
the huge sandworms and harvest their spice
called 'Thumpers'.
I hope Thumper isn't attracting any of them !!

S

Edited the mis spelling typo. Wet Blanket Defense on !


Just so you know, here's the official explanation on Thumper's name.

October 5, 2006 - 21:30 UTC
Last night we successfully finished migrating all the science data off the old server (castelli) onto the new one (thumper). So far, so good. However, we still have to move the beta data over to thumper and until then the beta project is offline. The new database still needs some minor tuning, but this will happen during regular (or very quick) outages, none of which would effect the usual result/workunit flow.

By the way, the name "thumper" is just the pet name that Sun gave the new line of Sun Fire X4500 systems. If we get another, it'll be called "bambi."

Extracted from the tech news archive


Regards,
Wander
113) 留言板 : Number crunching : Client error Downloading (消息 544592)
发表于:12 Apr 2007 作者: Wander Saito
Post:
I've just aborted the file not found downloads, as I was down to about 2 hrs of work. The subsequent downloads worked just fine.

I aborted, but then I got about a 50/50 mix of good WUs and more "file not found" WUs... There should be a better way to get around this.

Until the mismatch is fixed, Nothing can be done except to try and download the file, If It won't download then abort It, Its not like It matters really, as one good file has already replaced It most likely.


But there's a problem that the SAH staff should take a look into: all results associated with that particular missing WU. Assuming that the file should exist and should contain data, if they can't "find" them, we'll end up with holes in the processed data. The same happens when splitters have a hiccup and produce a number of WUs with bad headers (XML tags). In theory, those still have valid data, but don't get crunched because of a technical problem.

Regards,
Wander
114) 疑难解答 : Windows : black screen (消息 544395)
发表于:11 Apr 2007 作者: Wander Saito
Post:
Hi alphaace,

A while back, the SAH app was known to have some issues with ATI chipsets, and AFAIK this problem still exists. There were also reports of problem when you activate the password in the screensaver. I know you can't remove it, you could just test it to if this is the problem.

Anyway, seems to me that you can't run it with screensaver, so you might want to consider using a optimized app w/o graphics. It will crunch faster.

Regards,
Wander

PS: I couldn't resist, but your handle (alphaace) closely resambles the word "alface" which is the Portuguese word for "lettuce" :)
115) 留言板 : Number crunching : Client error Downloading (消息 544345)
发表于:11 Apr 2007 作者: Wander Saito
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I have one WU in this situation. According to the client_state.xml file the 25se04aa.24485.32802.1015912.3.51 should be on the following path: http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/1ab/ but it's not there. Either it has been prematurely deleted or it was misplaced.

Regards,
Wander
116) 疑难解答 : Windows : file not found (消息 544329)
发表于:11 Apr 2007 作者: Wander Saito
Post:
Hi William,

Check the Client error Downloading thread in the Number Crunching forum. This seems to be a server side error and no solution was given at this time, but you can follow up the latest new there.

Regards,
Wander
117) 疑难解答 : Windows : Suspending network activity - user request (消息 543352)
发表于:9 Apr 2007 作者: Wander Saito
Post:
Hi AiS,

Check your BOINC Manager under "Activity" menu and make sure that both "Run based on preferences" and Network activity based on preferences" options are set. Then proceed to your General Preferences page and check the "Do work while computer is in use?". If you want the SAH app to crunch even when you're doing work at the computer set it to "Yes", otherwise set it "No". In most computers is OK to set it to Yes, since the SAH app runs in a very low priority, thus not affecting the machine's performance.

Hit the "Update Preferences" button to save your changes then go back to BOINC Manager, select the "Projects" tab, select the SAH project in the list and hit the "Update" button. This should fix your problem.

Regards,
Wander
118) 留言板 : Number crunching : Closed (消息 542515)
发表于:8 Apr 2007 作者: Wander Saito
Post:
April 4, 2007
We are moving our database service around. Db_dump (stats) is off for a couple of days.


The DB_DUMP is the process that generates the files with the daily updates (credits, users, teams, etc) for the stats sites.

Perfect timing. :( The enormous spike that’s messing up my BOINCstats Einstein@home graph still hasn’t moved off—the big validator catch-up was only about six weeks ago—and no doubt, in a few days there’ll be a spurious spike, representing N days’ worth of crunching, in my S@h graph too. (But if N ≤ 2 the effect isn’t too severe.)


I know what you mean: at this point the "Best five days" table should be renamed to something like "Best five 'days after' an outage which caused credit accumulation" :)
119) 疑难解答 : Windows : No Disk Space (消息 542512)
发表于:8 Apr 2007 作者: Wander Saito
Post:
Hi Scooby,

This could be a simple case of disk space miscalculation. If you already reviewed you disk usage settings and they seem OK, try restarting BOINC and see if that helps. If not, you mentioned you upgraded to Vista. I know there are a few issues with that OS regarding proper permissions and things of that nature. I don't know if this is the cause of your problem, but the first they (the people who have more experience with Vista than me) suggest is to install BOINC outside the default location, somewhere like C:\\BOINC. I hope any of this helps you.

Regards,
Wander
120) 留言板 : Number crunching : Unexpected nice surpise, remote desktop worked! (消息 542000)
发表于:6 Apr 2007 作者: Wander Saito
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I use both RDP and VNC to connect remotely, and even if you don't have static IP address you can use either utility. I often use SAH pages to "discover" the IP address of my remote machines, and use both RDP and VCN through SSH to secure the link.

As Suzuki mentioned, VNC works much better specially if you're connecting through a WAN, but for some reason it cannot access a few types of custom bitmap-based windows and messages boxes, like those generated by ZoneAlarm. If I want to change any setting in the firewall remotely, I have to do it using RDP.

Whichever protocol you decide to use, RDP or VNC, you should change the default listening port since they are well known and are constantly probed by port scanners.

Regards,
Wander


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