Posts by marsinph

21) Message boards : Number crunching : 100 WU limit for GPUs is too low. (Message 1913756)
Posted 18 Jan 2018 by Profile marsinph
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Hello Gary, also a nice idea about flops, but not forget that some of us let computer run a few hours/day but with very powerfull computer.
Some less powerfull, but 24/24 and 7/7 (my self)
So not easy !






Is there a 'better' database to use than Informix? What does Google use, for example? SQL by MS? And is it practical to switch? Though I have heard of Informix for quite some time, I just Googled it and found that it is an IBM product. I guess I am old, but I thought that IBM had a reputation for doing big iron, and a solid DB? Or has that ossified over the years?

*edit* Just took a closer look at the quick blurb on Google, and this caught my eye: Stable release: 12.10.xC7 / June 15, 2016. I can appreciate having something just work if it ain't broke, but I don't know, it seems to me that over 18 months between stable releases seems like a pretty long time in the compressed IT world we live in now. But then again, what do I know? ;-)

It is the BOINC master database which uses mySQL rather than the science databases that use Informix. The issue is more how SETI@home uses the database.
For all of the tasks assigned to hosts, "results out in the field", the task information is stored in a single table.
So when tasks are assigned, reported, or a host doesn't an update then that table is accessed.
For the hardware running the db the limit of that table turns out to be around 11,000,000 rows. Then it can not longer complete a query fast enough. Which causes the db server to stop and the project to be offline for several hours if not days which recovery is run.

So the solutions are
1) Have more hefty master and replica db servers.
2) Recode how the results are sent to hosts are stored.
3) Limit the number of tasks sent to hosts.

#1 is a stop gap until that hardware hits its limit.
#2 is probably the best solution, but requires dedicated time that isn't available to the project.
#3 easiest to implement and can be adjusted if the db server gets near the limit again.

#3 is the opposite of the thread title. One other thing that can be done is to shorten the amount of time until a report is due. The should shorten the queue of workunits out in the bushes and also let more workunits validate faster. However as Seti allows phones to crunch, I'm not sure how much shorter it can be before many of those low crunch able phones would start missing deadlines. Perhaps some sort of dynamic deadline based on the reported FLOPS?
22) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (109) Server Problems? (Message 1913586)
Posted 17 Jan 2018 by Profile marsinph
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I am happy, I got 23 WU on one of my computer. Just enough for four houyrs GPU work

Sorry, Correction, I got 150WU. SETI is back . I hope for a very long time.
Well done Berkely.
23) Message boards : News : Projects are (no longer) down (Message 1913581)
Posted 17 Jan 2018 by Profile marsinph
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Hello, the same in Belgium. Of corse it is not Siberian temperature ....
24) Message boards : Number crunching : I something not understand : db purge not running (Message 1913573)
Posted 17 Jan 2018 by Profile marsinph
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Gents, kind regards from Belgium, but it is not my question !!!
25) Message boards : Number crunching : I something not understand : db purge not running (Message 1913559)
Posted 17 Jan 2018 by Profile marsinph
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The little "Bruno", have now more than 5,000,000 waiting "db purge" and of course it will increase more and more.
Very soon it will be a bottleneck on it ! It status is "not running". Strange, Not the server itself, because other programs seems run normally.
I only try to understand !
I am sure all the team at Berkely try and do the best they can. Since degin december there are more and more problems after weekly outage.

And no any news from the staff. I understand they prefer to solve the problems. But it will be nice if they publish informations. It will reduce the amount of message on the forume from people who not knows what happen.

Regards from Belgium.

To mederator's, not move to "Panic mode". It is quiet different. It is only about and to the staff. Nothig to make with "crunching" or "panic"...
26) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (109) Server Problems? (Message 1913520)
Posted 17 Jan 2018 by Profile marsinph
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I just get 36 WU !!!
27) Message boards : Number crunching : 100 WU limit for GPUs is too low. (Message 1913256)
Posted 15 Jan 2018 by Profile marsinph
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As I just learned there is a maximum of 100 WUs per compute device, or device class, and with an average of about 4-5 minutes per WU, that's a maximum of about 8 hours of work I can store, and with the splitters out all the time recently, this really doesn't cut it.

I'm already out of work for two hours with the current outage.

A cache of 100 tasks is only about an 8 hour cache for my dual E5-2670, or R9 390X as well. When we have shorties it is even less.
There are a few options to handle running out of work during an outage.
1) Have a backup project in BOINC.
2) Let your system(s) have a break when they run out of work.
3) Not run the project.




Hall, so if i understand enough, you ask to not more run SETI. OK
I wil do and follow your proposal !!!
Consider my suggestion about increase max alowed WU for veru acive users (like you)
28) Message boards : Number crunching : 100 WU limit for GPUs is too low. (Message 1913219)
Posted 15 Jan 2018 by Profile marsinph
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Since a few weeks/monts, there are server outage. We all know it.
With result that a lot of cruncher are out of work after a few hours or day

We all known that it is a limitation of 100WU/CPU and 100/GPU.
Not depending of 10 days WU and 10 days additionnal WU.
It nothing change. Still 100 CPU and 100 GPU.
I understand the limitation because some users download WU, then nothing more do with results of many WU "out of time".

More and more we have powerfull computers and GPU. For a lot of us, we runs thoses WU in less than 24 hours. In case of outage, we always are out of WU.

Why not increase the limitation based on the RAC or based the turnaround time average (better i think) ???
To be clear : basic (new) user, max WU amount 100. Based on 10 days
Average 1 day : 1000 WU
Or turn around average of 5 days, then 500WU
29) Message boards : News : Splitters off, again :( (Message 1905077)
Posted 6 Dec 2017 by Profile marsinph
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Thanks Eric for update. I am sure you will do it perfect.
30) Message boards : News : We're generating work again. (Message 1904331)
Posted 2 Dec 2017 by Profile marsinph
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Well done. Thanks for information
31) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (108) Server Problems? (Message 1903633)
Posted 29 Nov 2017 by Profile marsinph
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Hello Chris, I know ! I am not stupid.
My post is only about the fact that nobody at Berkeley send information.
Sorry for my english. I try to do my best. Without electroncic transaltor. Only from my little knownledge in Shakespeare languague !
Kind regards from Belgium
32) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (108) Server Problems? (Message 1903591)
Posted 29 Nov 2017 by Profile marsinph
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No any explanation from Berkeley and staff !
Of course, they can not always publish. But a little word from staff helps !
I also not forget the time difference between Belgium and Berkeley (9 hours)
It will says it is already 10.00AM there.
Soon we perhaps will miss "The" signal we all of us are searching....
Because limitation of 100WU (understandable) i am in a few hours out of WU on all my computers..
And I ask work for 10 + 10 days.

So to conclude : it will be nice if staff post situation report.
Of course no reaction are needed on my post
Best regards from Belgium.
33) Message boards : Number crunching : Credits : how is it calculated ??? (Message 1902547)
Posted 23 Nov 2017 by Profile marsinph
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Tks Rob, but how is is calculated ?
I understand about normalisation
34) Message boards : Number crunching : Credits : how is it calculated ??? (Message 1902541)
Posted 23 Nov 2017 by Profile marsinph
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On the same computer some WU runs faster but receive higher credits than other.
Some runs slower and receive also higher credits !
Also for the same running time there are big difference.
Of course for similar WU (same version) !!!
I not compare WU running on GPU also not compare AP with other

Who can explain ?
35) Message boards : Number crunching : Pendings are very high (Message 1902331)
Posted 22 Nov 2017 by Profile marsinph
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Not be afraid ! How faster your run task, how slower the will be validated (not everyone run very fast and/or 24/24, 7/7).
My turnaround is less than one day.
At me :
all : 1615
in progress : 600
Pending : 538 (and always above 500)
36) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (108) Server Problems? (Message 1900340)
Posted 10 Nov 2017 by Profile marsinph
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Grant !!!
Bulmlshit. You received WU 1 hour ago and returned result after 5 minuts !!!
Not 8.5 hours ago !!!!

6156815095 2741644623 10 Nov 2017, 20:22:26 UTC 10 Nov 2017, 20:27:34 UTC Terminé, en attente de validation 165.34 57.66 en attente SETI@home v8
Plateforme anonyme (GPU NVIDIA

I begin very tired about all false information and never solution.
37) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (108) Server Problems? (Message 1900284)
Posted 10 Nov 2017 by Profile marsinph
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Stephen,
You did not received the latest 18hours !!! Are you sure ???
The latest WU you received is on 10 Nov 2017, 16:37:19 UTC !!!
So please, stop to write only for pleasure of writing.
It seems a problem in Berkeley or on connection or....???
I search a solution of the problem. I am running BoincManager 7.8.3 (x64)
Perhaps a bug in Boinc, perhaps at Berkeley. I prefer solution instead of writing for pleasure.
Regards from Belgium.
38) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (108) Server Problems? (Message 1900251)
Posted 10 Nov 2017 by Profile marsinph
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Hi ,
What is relation between Cognac, somewhere in universe ,... and server problems !?
Already six hours, impossible to get any WU. Always the same failure report on both my computer (Times below are displayed in Belgium time : GMT-1) :
10/11/2017 17:17:43 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
10/11/2017 17:17:43 | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
10/11/2017 17:20:30 | SETI@home | Computation for task 24ap08aa.29000.19295.7.34.124_1 finished
10/11/2017 17:20:30 | SETI@home | Starting task 17mr07aa.25895.23381.11.38.241_0
10/11/2017 17:20:32 | SETI@home | Started upload of 24ap08aa.29000.19295.7.34.124_1_r794663433_0
10/11/2017 17:20:38 | SETI@home | Finished upload of 24ap08aa.29000.19295.7.34.124_1_r794663433_0
10/11/2017 17:22:50 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
10/11/2017 17:22:50 | SETI@home | Reporting 1 completed tasks
10/11/2017 17:22:50 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
10/11/2017 17:22:56 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
10/11/2017 17:22:56 | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
10/11/2017 17:27:27 | SETI@home | Computation for task 17mr07aa.25895.23381.11.38.241_0 finished
10/11/2017 17:27:27 | SETI@home | Starting task blc24_2bit_guppi_57895_45664_HIP92161_0029.8983.818.24.47.79.vlar_1
10/11/2017 17:27:29 | SETI@home | Started upload of 17mr07aa.25895.23381.11.38.241_0_r936385161_0
10/11/2017 17:27:33 | SETI@home | Finished upload of 17mr07aa.25895.23381.11.38.241_0_r936385161_0
10/11/2017 17:28:02 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
10/11/2017 17:28:02 | SETI@home | Reporting 1 completed tasks
10/11/2017 17:28:02 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
10/11/2017 17:28:08 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
10/11/2017 17:28:08 | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
10/11/2017 17:33:47 | SETI@home | Computation for task 21mr07ae.4793.20522.9.36.172_2 finished
10/11/2017 17:33:47 | SETI@home | Starting task blc24_2bit_guppi_57895_44634_HIP91879_0026.22050.0.24.47.32.vlar_0
10/11/2017 17:33:49 | SETI@home | Started upload of 21mr07ae.4793.20522.9.36.172_2_r651411335_0
10/11/2017 17:33:54 | SETI@home | Finished upload of 21mr07ae.4793.20522.9.36.172_2_r651411335_0
10/11/2017 17:33:54 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
10/11/2017 17:33:54 | SETI@home | Reporting 1 completed tasks
10/11/2017 17:33:54 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
10/11/2017 17:33:58 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
10/11/2017 17:33:58 | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
10/11/2017 17:40:04 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
10/11/2017 17:40:04 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
10/11/2017 17:40:09 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
10/11/2017 17:40:09 | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
10/11/2017 17:45:16 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
10/11/2017 17:45:16 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
10/11/2017 17:45:19 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
10/11/2017 17:45:19 | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
39) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (108) Server Problems? (Message 1900239)
Posted 10 Nov 2017 by Profile marsinph
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Hello, server status report nothing wrong. Data of report about WU amount change normally !
40) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (108) Server Problems? (Message 1900230)
Posted 10 Nov 2017 by Profile marsinph
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Already more than three hours impossible to get WU (no tasks available). But server status report show it are !!!
What happens ?

10/11/2017 14:14:36 | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
10/11/2017 14:25:28 | SETI@home | Computation for task 02ap07ab.18600.2526.14.41.60_1 finished
10/11/2017 14:25:29 | SETI@home | Starting task 27mr07af.17277.7434.8.35.161_1
10/11/2017 14:25:31 | SETI@home | Started upload of 02ap07ab.18600.2526.14.41.60_1_r1895501896_0
10/11/2017 14:25:37 | SETI@home | Finished upload of 02ap07ab.18600.2526.14.41.60_1_r1895501896_0
10/11/2017 14:25:49 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
10/11/2017 14:25:49 | SETI@home | Reporting 1 completed tasks
10/11/2017 14:25:49 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
10/11/2017 14:25:54 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
10/11/2017 14:25:54 | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
10/11/2017 14:36:02 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
10/11/2017 14:36:02 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
10/11/2017 14:36:06 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
10/11/2017 14:36:06 | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
10/11/2017 14:38:10 | SETI@home | Computation for task 27mr07af.17277.7434.8.35.161_1 finished
10/11/2017 14:38:10 | SETI@home | Starting task 17mr07aa.18732.8248.10.37.144_0
10/11/2017 14:38:12 | SETI@home | Started upload of 27mr07af.17277.7434.8.35.161_1_r37921717_0
10/11/2017 14:38:16 | SETI@home | Finished upload of 27mr07af.17277.7434.8.35.161_1_r37921717_0
10/11/2017 14:41:12 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
10/11/2017 14:41:12 | SETI@home | Reporting 1 completed tasks
10/11/2017 14:41:12 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
10/11/2017 14:41:16 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
10/11/2017 14:41:16 | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
10/11/2017 14:45:08 | SETI@home | Computation for task 17mr07aa.18732.8248.10.37.144_0 finished
10/11/2017 14:45:08 | SETI@home | Starting task 26au08ag.20853.11933.13.40.26_1
10/11/2017 14:45:10 | SETI@home | Started upload of 17mr07aa.18732.8248.10.37.144_0_r830983028_0
10/11/2017 14:45:15 | SETI@home | Finished upload of 17mr07aa.18732.8248.10.37.144_0_r830983028_0
10/11/2017 14:46:22 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
10/11/2017 14:46:22 | SETI@home | Reporting 1 completed tasks
10/11/2017 14:46:22 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
10/11/2017 14:46:26 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
10/11/2017 14:46:26 | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
10/11/2017 14:52:06 | SETI@home | Computation for task 26au08ag.20853.11933.13.40.26_1 finished
10/11/2017 14:52:06 | SETI@home | Starting task 02ap07ab.17567.15614.13.40.7_0
10/11/2017 14:52:08 | SETI@home | Started upload of 26au08ag.20853.11933.13.40.26_1_r1174843402_0
10/11/2017 14:52:13 | SETI@home | Finished upload of 26au08ag.20853.11933.13.40.26_1_r1174843402_0
10/11/2017 14:52:17 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
10/11/2017 14:52:17 | SETI@home | Reporting 1 completed tasks
10/11/2017 14:52:17 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
10/11/2017 14:52:20 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
10/11/2017 14:52:20 | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
10/11/2017 14:54:45 | SETI@home | Computation for task 30ja07ad.4787.24203.10.37.226.vlar_0 finished
10/11/2017 14:54:45 | SETI@home | Starting task 26au08ag.30049.16023.11.38.141_1
10/11/2017 14:54:47 | SETI@home | Started upload of 30ja07ad.4787.24203.10.37.226.vlar_0_r1847898778_0
10/11/2017 14:54:52 | SETI@home | Finished upload of 30ja07ad.4787.24203.10.37.226.vlar_0_r1847898778_0
10/11/2017 14:57:27 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
10/11/2017 14:57:27 | SETI@home | Reporting 1 completed tasks
10/11/2017 14:57:27 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
10/11/2017 14:57:31 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
10/11/2017 14:57:31 | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
10/11/2017 15:04:37 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
10/11/2017 15:04:37 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
10/11/2017 15:04:40 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
10/11/2017 15:04:40 | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
10/11/2017 15:04:49 | SETI@home | Computation for task 02ap07ab.17567.15614.13.40.7_0 finished
10/11/2017 15:04:49 | SETI@home | Starting task 27mr07af.17277.20113.8.35.113_1
10/11/2017 15:04:51 | SETI@home | Started upload of 02ap07ab.17567.15614.13.40.7_0_r391303775_0
10/11/2017 15:04:57 | SETI@home | Finished upload of 02ap07ab.17567.15614.13.40.7_0_r391303775_0
10/11/2017 15:09:44 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
10/11/2017 15:09:44 | SETI@home | Reporting 1 completed tasks
10/11/2017 15:09:44 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
10/11/2017 15:09:48 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
10/11/2017 15:09:48 | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
10/11/2017 15:17:31 | SETI@home | Computation for task 27mr07af.17277.20113.8.35.113_1 finished
10/11/2017 15:17:31 | SETI@home | Starting task 02ap07ab.18600.22573.14.41.23_1
10/11/2017 15:17:33 | SETI@home | Started upload of 27mr07af.17277.20113.8.35.113_1_r1263597209_0
10/11/2017 15:17:38 | SETI@home | Finished upload of 27mr07af.17277.20113.8.35.113_1_r1263597209_0
10/11/2017 15:17:39 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
10/11/2017 15:17:39 | SETI@home | Reporting 1 completed tasks
10/11/2017 15:17:39 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
10/11/2017 15:17:44 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
10/11/2017 15:17:44 | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
10/11/2017 15:27:54 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
10/11/2017 15:27:54 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
10/11/2017 15:28:00 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
10/11/2017 15:28:00 | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available


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