Posts by Doug Inwood

1) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mark your calendar for the Seti 10th Anniversary Party (Message 892471)
Posted 7 May 2009 by Profile Doug Inwood
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How many of those who joined on 17-05-99 are still around ?

We have one in our team; Canterbury Astronomical Society
2) Message boards : Number crunching : MB vs AP WU processing and credit granted (Message 879718)
Posted 27 Mar 2009 by Profile Doug Inwood
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Is 101.7 seconds/WU normal for a CUDA system?
3) Message boards : Number crunching : pending credits (Message 878653)
Posted 23 Mar 2009 by Profile Doug Inwood
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Panic mode switch set to 'off' :-)

I haven't had a credit granted in the last 24 hours. Now I see that it's not me, so I can continue to not worry and know that it'll sort itself out.
4) Message boards : Number crunching : The Little PC that Could! (Message 877469)
Posted 20 Mar 2009 by Profile Doug Inwood
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So you think my PII-266 could .............. take a while?
5) Message boards : Number crunching : The Little PC that Could! (Message 876864)
Posted 18 Mar 2009 by Profile Doug Inwood
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hmmm

PC check
266MHz > 233 min
256Mb > 128Mb min
4Gb > 1.5 min

hmmmm

find an app to run on an old PII-266 ......
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Credit? (Message 875835)
Posted 15 Mar 2009 by Profile Doug Inwood
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To me the credits provide a simple way to gauge how well my machine is doing. If the RAC is down compared to other similar machines then I know that there is something I can do to increase the efficiency of my machine and hence provide a better contribution to the project. With a RAC of 240 a few weeks ago I know I could better - and now at 765 I know I am doing better :-)
7) Message boards : Number crunching : WU's won't start automatically (Message 874929)
Posted 12 Mar 2009 by Profile Doug Inwood
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Just an update for those heading down the opt. app road.

Pre opt. app I was getting ~250RAC/day which was under reported.
Since the Feb. 23 install I've increased to 727, although I am actually getting ~920/day based on work done totals.
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Not being impatient... just... (Message 874927)
Posted 12 Mar 2009 by Profile Doug Inwood
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I just had a look at mine. I've got a nominal 10 day cache. Right now I have 104 WU's in line and it's working on 2. That's right at 240 hours total time, or 5 days for a dual core. Ok so that checks ok

I don't see a problem with this as it works on WU's according to their deadline, not the order received. I'll often spot a WU that's suspended as 1 came in with an earlier deadline and it's been bought to the front of the line.

It doesn't really matter how many WU's someone has, as they'll get done in date order just like yours, and they'll get returned about the same time, unless someone has a glitch somewhere.
9) Message boards : Number crunching : WU's won't start automatically (Message 870031)
Posted 27 Feb 2009 by Profile Doug Inwood
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Summary:

Much better !!
No WU has failed to start automatically
Times are ~1/2 what they were
Selection from the que is as it should be, earliest dates first

Reported RAC still seems to be ~1/2 what it should be - but oh well.
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Old user New Method (Message 870029)
Posted 27 Feb 2009 by Profile Doug Inwood
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Having just installed a new app on my AuthenticAMD Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 180 [x86 Family 15 Model 35 Stepping 2] I can confirm that it is indeed SSE3 as per CPU-Z and not SSE2 as per windows.

The lunatics app I'm running has fixed a glitch I had with WU's not starting, and the processing time is now ~1/2 what it was. Install was easy as per the included instructions.
11) Message boards : Number crunching : WU's won't start automatically (Message 869014)
Posted 24 Feb 2009 by Profile Doug Inwood
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How do you set the stats to go back further than 1 month?

All of my charts have always only shown the last month.
12) Message boards : Number crunching : WU's won't start automatically (Message 868919)
Posted 24 Feb 2009 by Profile Doug Inwood
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Working much better !! So far every WU has started automatically.

Times seem to be under 2 hours per WU now, which is ~2 times faster.

Next week will show the real differences after a longer baseline develops to compare these new apples to the old oranges.

Thanks to everyone who helped, skil for pointing out to stop getting AP instead of dumping them when I got them, arkyan for pointing me in the right direction for an app.
13) Message boards : Number crunching : WU's won't start automatically (Message 868690)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile Doug Inwood
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Yeah the only reason I wasn't doing AP WU's was the overly long time I knew AMD's took that would slow those WU's down for my non-AMD wingmen.

You did Rich - I trimmed out a little much to keep the reading/scrolling down to a easier amount. Sorry. I put them back :-)

2/23/2009 12:52:21 PM|SETI@home|Started upload of 22ja09aa.10498.2526.6.8.253_0_0
2/23/2009 12:52:27 PM||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
2/23/2009 12:52:28 PM||Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
2/23/2009 12:52:28 PM|SETI@home|Temporarily failed upload of 22ja09aa.10498.2526.6.8.253_0_0: HTTP error

Looks like a little server glitch ? I've 2 WU's like this.

If there'e an AP/MB combined opp. app. for AMD point me at it ;-)
14) Message boards : Number crunching : WU's won't start automatically (Message 868674)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile Doug Inwood
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oops about all the msgs. - I meant to copy selected not copy all.

CPU-Z tells me under "Instructions" MMX(+),3DNow!(+),SSE,SSE2,SSE3,x86-64

so I think the SS3 app I got was the one I should have.

This line:
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM|SETI@home|Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform

matches the instructions in that "BOINC will tell you that it found app_info.xml and is using an "anonymous platform".

So I think I'm good to go as Rich said. I'll see if my ~4hr/WU times go down.

and .... catching up with the posts as I was typing .....

I checked and don't have any AP WU's in my cache. Actually haven't got any for a week or so. I've had CPU-Z installed for a long time, that's what indicated to me to get the SS3 app over the SS2 app. The error msgs threw me and made me second guess my choice. AK_v8_win_SSE3.exe is running under my username in the processes list in task manager. When I've exited BOINC it's always been via the 'exit' in the system tray.
15) Message boards : Number crunching : WU's won't start automatically (Message 868645)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile Doug Inwood
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Thanks for all the replies

Glad to find out it's an AMD thing and not just me

I went here http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;sa=dlview;id=118
and dloaded the file. Followed in instructions, restarted BOINC and got this:

2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM||Starting BOINC client version 6.4.5 for windows_intelx86
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM||Libraries: libcurl/7.19.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8i zlib/1.2.3
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM||Data directory: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM||Running under account douginwood
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM|SETI@home|Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM|SETI@home|[error] State file error: missing application astropulse_v5
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM|SETI@home|[error] Can't handle workunit in state file
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM|SETI@home|[error] State file error: missing application astropulse_v5
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM|SETI@home|[error] Can't handle workunit in state file
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM|SETI@home|[error] State file error: missing task ap_03ja09ab_B5_P0_00270_20090221_28472.wu
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM|SETI@home|[error] Can't link task ap_03ja09ab_B5_P0_00270_20090221_28472.wu_3 in state file
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM|SETI@home|[error] State file error: missing task ap_11ja09ae_B6_P0_00129_20090222_08393.wu
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM|SETI@home|[error] Can't link task ap_11ja09ae_B6_P0_00129_20090222_08393.wu_0 in state file
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM||Processor: 2 AuthenticAMD Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 180 [x86 Family 15 Model 35 Stepping 2]
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM||Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 3dnow mmx
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM||OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional x86 Editon, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00)
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM||Memory: 3.00 GB physical, 6.86 GB virtual
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM||Disk: 176.53 GB total, 102.98 GB free
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM||Local time is UTC -6 hours
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM||Not using a proxy
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM||No CUDA devices found
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM||No coprocessors
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM|SETI@home|URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID: 3388652; location: home; project prefs: default
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 13-Feb-2009 07:48:37)
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM||Computer location: home
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM||General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM||Reading preferences override file
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1535.74MB
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 2764.33MB
2/23/2009 12:20:24 PM||Preferences limit disk usage to 0.10GB
2/23/2009 12:20:25 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 16ja09ag.1348.21602.13.8.227_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 603
2/23/2009 12:20:25 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 16ja09ae.23778.21340.11.8.205_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 603




should I have dloaded the SS2 application instead of the SS3?
16) Message boards : Number crunching : WU's won't start automatically (Message 868568)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile Doug Inwood
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First things - done - oops.

As to the WU's - they are selected correctly in that it chooses the earliest deadlines to start on - but when I check it, it'll show hours of time spent for 0% progress. I exit BOINC from the tray and restart it and it'll choose the same 2 WU's to work on and after ~20 seconds the progress starts to register. It then completes in ~4 hours, picks the next WU in sequence and starts the time, but progress sits at 0% until I restart BOINC.
17) Message boards : Number crunching : WU's won't start automatically (Message 868522)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile Doug Inwood
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Here's what I have

2/23/2009 7:38:21 AM||Starting BOINC client version 6.4.5 for windows_intelx86
2/23/2009 7:38:21 AM||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
2/23/2009 7:38:21 AM||Libraries: libcurl/7.19.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8i zlib/1.2.3
2/23/2009 7:38:21 AM||Data directory: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC
2/23/2009 7:38:21 AM||Running under account douginwood
2/23/2009 7:38:21 AM||Processor: 2 AuthenticAMD Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 180 [x86 Family 15 Model 35 Stepping 2]
2/23/2009 7:38:21 AM||Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 3dnow mmx
2/23/2009 7:38:21 AM||OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional x86 Editon, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00)

Now just about every WU won't start automatically. I have to close BOINC from the system tray and restart it for the WU's to start. Hence I'm loosing a lot of time.

Ideas?
18) Message boards : Number crunching : efficiency (Message 865938)
Posted 16 Feb 2009 by Profile Doug Inwood
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100% to all 3
19) Message boards : Number crunching : efficiency (Message 865097)
Posted 13 Feb 2009 by Profile Doug Inwood
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Here's what I have:

2/13/2009 8:36:06 AM||Starting BOINC client version 6.4.5 for windows_intelx86
2/13/2009 8:36:06 AM||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
2/13/2009 8:36:06 AM||Libraries: libcurl/7.19.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8i zlib/1.2.3
2/13/2009 8:36:06 AM||Data directory: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC
2/13/2009 8:36:06 AM||Running under account douginwood
2/13/2009 8:36:06 AM||Processor: 2 AuthenticAMD Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 180 [x86 Family 15 Model 35 Stepping 2]
2/13/2009 8:36:06 AM||Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 3dnow mmx
2/13/2009 8:36:06 AM||OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional x86 Editon, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00)
2/13/2009 8:36:06 AM||Memory: 3.00 GB physical, 6.86 GB virtual
2/13/2009 8:36:06 AM||Disk: 176.53 GB total, 103.66 GB free
2/13/2009 8:36:06 AM||Local time is UTC -6 hours
2/13/2009 8:36:06 AM||Not using a proxy
2/13/2009 8:36:06 AM||No CUDA devices found
2/13/2009 8:36:06 AM||No coprocessors

I don't think I have most efficient seti/boinc software setup. Each wu takes ~4 hours to complete and I get ~42 credits for each, which is ~10 per hour which is 240/day - per core. As I have 2 that's about 480/day. My RAC hovers around 200/day - has been there for months. I also get a lot of wu's that won't start computing - the clock runs but progress sits on 0. Often I'll find 1 core has spent 2 days on a wu and got 0% done. Often restarting boinc fixes it - sometimes I have to abort the wu :-(

If I don't have the best software for this machine then what is the best?
20) Message boards : Number crunching : Not reporting or requesting tasks when it should be requesting (Message 862786)
Posted 6 Feb 2009 by Profile Doug Inwood
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5.8.16 isn't asking for new work like it used to. I'm on 24/7 and now it only has the 2 tasks it's working on and when 1 is done it'll upload that and get 1 more.

I've been getting a lot of wu's lately that won't start. CPU Time runs on the wu but progress sits at 0. Restart boinc and it restarts the time and the wu will then start.


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