Posts by Ageless

1) Questions and Answers : Windows : Toasting (Message 1940195)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile Ageless
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BOINC already has a throttle, via the Use at most 100 % of CPU time preference. Since all GPU apps run on the CPU, throttling the CPU will throttle the GPU. Throttling the GPU via hardware is possible, but requires OpenCL 2.0 compliant hardware, e.g. an AMD R5/R7/R9/RX and new GPU applications at this project. I wouldn't hold my breath those are coming soon.

In the mean time, running work on the GPU built into your CPU is inadequate. These GPUs mostly only displace heat while in return you don't get that much work done on them. They also take cycles away from the CPU. Running work on the AMD GPU would do fine, as long as it's cooled correctly, which in a laptop is always going to be a problem. Running work only on the CPU will eventually also build up heat.

Think about buying or making a laptop cooler.
2) Questions and Answers : Getting started : How to know if I found something or not (Message 1939871)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile Ageless
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See http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/about_seti/about_seti_at_home_1.html (your question is answered on page 5)
3) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : GPU not working (I think!) (Message 1939838)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile Ageless
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Since Ubuntu 16.04, that Ubuntu doesn't have out of the box drivers for AMD anymore. So now it depends on which Ubuntu was installed on your system.
- If an older version, like 14 or 15, you can download the last available drivers from this list (an AMD Kalindi is Radeon HD 8000 – HD 8400) and see if those work.
- If a newer version 16 or above, you have no hope. You can try the newer AMD Pro drivers, but it's doubtful they'll work.

However, your Linux computer has more problems than that as it hasn't contacted the project since February of this year. I don't know if it's worth the effort to try to revive it. It's easier to install BOINC on Android devices and let those run Seti, costs less electricity and thus money as well.
4) Message boards : Number crunching : New MAC BOINC Client 10.7.3 64Bit on Intel (Message 1939646)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile Ageless
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Version is 7.10.3, we don't have a BOINC X yet. Try that again in 5 years time. :)
5) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Back after 10 year absence, or more. Why do I have zero credit? (Message 1939617)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile Ageless
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Do know that a lot of active (at the time) classic accounts were automatically upgraded to BOINC accounts at the time of Seti switching from classic to BOINC. So it is possible that a classic account is already a BOINC account and therefore cannot be claimed anymore for inclusion into a newly made BOINC account.

You can test that by filling in those email addresses into https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/get_passwd.php but this only works if you still have access to that email address.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1939263)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile Ageless
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Product support forum changes on Microsoft Community:


Hello,

Effective July 2018, the Microsoft Community forums listed below will shift support scope and Microsoft staff will no longer provide technical support there. There will be no proactive reviews, monitoring, answering or answer marking of questions. The forums will still be moderated by Microsoft agents to ensure participants can engage in a safe and positive environment.

Microsoft Community participants are welcome and encouraged to continue to use the forum to ask questions and post answers with each other.

The support for the below products will be discontinued across different forums in the Community.

* Windows 7, 8.1, 8.1 RT
* Microsoft Security Essentials
* Internet Explorer 10
* Office 2010, 2013
* Surface Pro, Surface Pro 2, Surface RT, Surface 2
* Microsoft Band – this topic will be locked. Users are invited to participate in Microsoft Band 2 topic.
* Mobile devices forum – Microsoft support will continue in "Other Windows mobile devices" topic
* Zune – this topic will be locked, but will remain available for browsing

Thank you for being part of Microsoft Community!
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Apple deprecates OpenCl (and OpenGl) (Message 1938696)
Posted 13 days ago by Profile Ageless
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Responses from the BOINC developer/Project admin::
Charlie Fenton, Mac developer BOINC wrote:
It usually takes years after an API is deprecated before a new version of mac OS X no longer supports them. Switching from OpenCL and OpenGL to Apple's proprietary Metal APIs would involve far more than the code to detect GPUs. It would mean that all screensavers / project graphics applications would need to be rewritten (perhaps completely) just for Macs, and all project work applications that use GPU computing would need to be rewritten (perhaps completely) just for Macs.

Actually, most or all GLUT APIs were deprecated back in OS 10.9 (October 2013). These are used extensively in the BOINC graphics library: graphics2_unix.cpp, gutil_text.cpp and gutil.cpp.


Eric Korpela, Seti@Home jockey wrote:
I think this will eventually result in many projects not supporting GPU apps under MacOS. It also might reduce support for OpenCL in the science world in favor of CUDA.
8) Message boards : Number crunching : How to get new host ID most easely? (Message 1938479)
Posted 15 days ago by Profile Ageless
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The long route is to set NNT, run cache empty and wait for all tasks to validate, then be removed from the list. When the task list is empty, delete the hostID. When you then start BOINC again/ANT, it'll get a new ID.
9) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Help!: NVidia GeForce GTX 1060 graphics card not seen by Seti@Home. (Message 1938429)
Posted 15 days ago by Profile Ageless
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For the uninitiated, that's at http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/134855/en-us
10) Message boards : Number crunching : old question: Any GPU wu For Radeon/ATI openCL? (Message 1937789)
Posted 21 days ago by Profile Ageless
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If you only have 6 pin connectors, you can use this conversion kit to go to 8 pin.

Edit: or better yet, this kit, with 2 convertors for that price.
Later edit: if you don't have any 6 pin connectors left, but enough Molex, you can use this convertor which makes one 8 pin connector from two Molex connectors.
11) Message boards : Number crunching : old question: Any GPU wu For Radeon/ATI openCL? (Message 1937671)
Posted 22 days ago by Profile Ageless
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The applications here don't work with the Mesa OpenCL driver, hence why you won't get work.
12) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC Update = No BOINC? (Message 1937159)
Posted 27 days ago by Profile Ageless
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What is the exact message?
Can you tell which BOINC package you downloaded?
Was it boinc_7.10.2_windows_intelx86.exe, or boinc_7.10.2_windows_x86_64.exe?
Do you know which BOINC you had installed before? You can check that in the stdoutdae.txt file in the data directory. Look for lines stating [i]Starting BOINC client version x.x.x for windows_*, where '*' is either intelx86, or x86_64.
13) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : How to use multiple GPU's (Message 1936981)
Posted 28 days ago by Profile Ageless
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The option is a switch. 1 for on, 0 for off.
So instead of 4 use 1.

No need to use <coproc> as that's used to define unknown GPUs and coprocessors.
Using use all gpus also requires a restart of the client.
14) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Screen Saver on Linux (Message 1936915)
Posted 28 days ago by Profile Ageless
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The screen saver is a duo part thing here. It requires a separate graphics application in combination with the science application. As far as I know, only Windows and Mac OS have these, they weren't built for Linux.
So you just have the BOINC screen saver.

See also https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/BOINC_screensaver and check there which options you have to run the screen saver. I'd disable the project screen saver, thus set Run project screensavers for to Never.
15) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Task on Account as opposed to My PC? (Message 1936914)
Posted 28 days ago by Profile Ageless
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Make sure to click "Show all tasks" in BOINC Manager, view, advanced view, Tasks tab. The button will change to "Show active tasks", as it shows the option, not the state it's in.
If it shows "Show active tasks" and you still only have two tasks, the rest may be ghosted. This can happen when something goes awry in the connection between the client and the server after you've been appointed the work, and before it's actually sent. Then it's never sent. The project has got a function for this that's sometimes on, called "resend lost tasks", but because that's very database intensive, they don't run it constantly. If it is on and your BOINC contacts the project for more work, you will normally be resent the lost work.
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Any ideas when this page will be up, again? (Message 1936907)
Posted 28 days ago by Profile Ageless
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Unless the TBD part was picked up from David's news message last year, where he pointed to http://boinc.berkeley.edu/tbd.php.
TBD has become Science United, which isn't a project but an account manager. Stats sites don't have to link to that.
17) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : How to use multiple GPU's (Message 1936828)
Posted 29 days ago by Profile Ageless
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Prerequisites:
In Your account got to:
Seti@Home preferences
and check that "Use NVIDIA GPU" is checked.

If it isn't, Edit preferences with the link at the bottom and check "Use NVIDIA GPU".
Next click Update preferences at the bottom.

Update BOINC to have the updated preferences: open BOINC Manager, View, Advanced view, Projects tab, select Seti@Home, click Update.

You'll need drivers that have both CUDA and OpenCL. Drivers installed by Windows do not suffice.
Always install drivers from the GPU manufacturer, always install them clean - it's an option in the installer.
Set Windows 10 to stop automatic driver updates.
Drivers installed by Windows may not always contain the necessary components (CUDA or OpenCL).

Your present computer shows just one Titan GPU.
If you have two and they are in the same computer, you only need the prerequisites from above.
You only have to use the <use_all_gpus> option in cc_config.xml, when you have two or more different GPUs, and only when they're same brand, different models.
When they're different brands, it's not needed. Those are set via the project's preferences settings of "Use NVIDIA GPU", "Use ATI GPU" and "Use Intel GPU".

If you have two Titans and they're in separate computers, run BOINC on both separately. GPUs in separate computers cannot be paired.

Your cached work now shows just work for the CPU, so I think you don't have "Use NVIDIA GPU" checked, or if it's checked that it's set in a different venue/location than your system's at.
18) Questions and Answers : Web site : Recaptcha blocked in China (Message 1936766)
Posted 29 days ago by Profile Ageless
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Changing passwords can be done without filling in a reCaptcha. You don't even need the old password.

What a 'trusted' person can look at though, is the account key... And with that they can easily log back in and take over the account, soon even delete it.
19) Questions and Answers : Web site : Spam Reports (Message 1936763)
Posted 29 days ago by Profile Ageless
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Reporting it in the forums is best, there's always people like me who will look into it and forward that to the correct persons. Thanks for the report. I did forward it to David and Eric.
20) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1936188)
Posted 18 May 2018 by Profile Ageless
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Pastime. With presets you ain't got enough of that, so they changed it so that you do.


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